So I took the bait and completely nuked my Windows installation for Linux. I've never tried Linux and I went for CachyOS because it's supposed to be good for vidya.I have to say, I am seriously impressed. Literally every game I play works, from 30 year old games to new AAA releases. To be fair, I don't play live service kernel anticheat slop and I never installed kernel anticheat games on my Windows installation either.So, what should I do next? Any other Linux gaymers looking to exchange tips or advice
what tips do you need if everything works?Don't use the arch user repository (aur) but that's just an arch thing
>he fell for the troonix memeyou are fucked lmao
>>741594217>don't use the aurWhat are you even installing that would make you concerned about the aur?
>he fell for itKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK have fun having a bricked pc!
>>741594217>Don't use the arch user repository (aur) but that's just an arch thingthis. especially since you're new and you don't know what you're doing>>741594414>>741594460>microjeets and their crabs in bucket mentality
>>741594034try playing arkham asylum
>>741594034You'll come back
>>741594459anything? didn't the aur just have a massive malware scandal where like ~2% packages were just malware?
install gentoo, stay on Xorg, ignore systemD fags, hide and report pro-systemD posts, flood Lennart's mailbox with countless threats of violence with a self hosted email-spoofing script, profit
>>741594521
>>741594034Make sure that your browser(s) of choice are fully imported, keep your drivers up to date, and if it didn't come with it make sure you nab Libreoffice...beyond that? Relax and play.It's really not hard. If you want you can fuck around with terminal commands to get used to it- came in handy for me when a couple things broke, but you can usually find solutions with a quick google anyways.
>>741594521Lots of words and promises yet little to show for it.
>>741594034>what should I do next?Realized you got meme'd and reinstall windows.
>>741594521Personally I'm waiting until Windows KKK
>>741594034Good for you. I switched to Linux one year ago and haven't looked back. It's made me fall in love with my computer all over again, shit feels wondrous like back in 2003. I feel sad for Windows users who are too scared to try it.
>>741594217>don’t use the user repositoryThis shit confounds me. It’s like OSX users being proud of Macs only running Apple-approved software. The whole repository logic is fucknuts to begin with, why are you normalizing only using software that’s approved and preconfigured by the specific distro you’re on?
>>741594034get off of 4chan and play videogames faggotNo seriously, go play games cause /v/ doesn't. I'm only here inbetween waves on my TD game
Should I use cachyos or arch through the install script?
>>741594675>Libreoffice>install bloatware officeLol
>>741594832I think the idea is that people might expect the AUR to have some sort of official stamp of quality (and therefore safety) when really it's just a place for randos to dump pkgbuilds. I think the AUR is fine as long as you read and can understand them.
>>741594034welcome to the rest of your life :)>what should I do next?reinstall all your programs, see which programs you might need to use wine for, and try to make it feel like home. linux is really good at that.
>>741595178That's a real goddamn pretty desktop, anon. I like it.
>>741595178Is this TDE? how is development going? last a i checked a bunch of the internet related programs weren't working
linux + nvidia + ue5 + dx12 is a nightmare. I will be getting an AMD gpu next time holy fuck this is horrible
>>741594034>CachyOSHaven't been keeping up with distros for quite a while. Does it use WINE/Proton for compatibility layer?
>>741594626Someone hijacked orphans. It was a huge nothingburger.Orphan=literally nobody cares about and/or is using it anymore
>>741595450I swapped my 5070ti for a 9070xt and pocketed some change, it's so fucking smooth nowit does suck not having dlss tho, but meh>>741595461yes
>>741594034>So, what should I do next?it's time for self-hosting madness
>>741595461Literally everything used either wine or proton.
>>741594507nta, but I played it on Linux a long time ago no problem. What's the issue?
>>741595704the lighting was all fucky for me and kept flickering
>>741594034I would never nuke Windows for Linux, even though I use Linux daily. I use a second drive. Though I guess if you had Windows 10 and nuked that for Linux, it is a whole different story.
>>741595613>Literally everything used either wine or protonGiven the linux community's tendencies with other core system utilities, it wouldn't surprise me if some competing counterproductive project had spun up over some holy war. Glad that's not the case.
>>741594217The AUR is just the equivalent of downloading random installers from the internet. It's just big news as Linux gets malware rarely (partly due to being more secure, partly due to a much smaller userbase).
>>741595958Proton is Valve. It isn't getting replaced any time soon.
>>741596025Proton will work until Gabe dies and Steam instantly enshittifies.
>>741595994Linux isn't secure. Specially not cachyos.. you still have to make it secure if that's what you want. Or use a secure distribution like opensuse.
>>741594034CachyOS is king. I have it dual-bootable from my 9950X3D, 5090 FE and 128GB RAM desktop PC with secure boot enabled for both. It is excellent and performance is equivalent on every game I care about (if not sometimes slightly better). Still have to keep Windows around for BF6 for the time being though. I also use it at work for my TV PC (in my office, I'm a senior staff member) and it's great there. Allows me to shitpost over Proton VPN at work without anyone seeing and watch anime/tv/movies from my home UnRaid server over Tailscale. Frankly if you don't have a need to play multiplayer games with kernel level anticheat you should make the switch to CachyOS and ditch Windows entirely. It is better than Windows 11 even if you know how to debloat the OS (which I do for a living for government orgs along with hardening) at this point for modern Nvidia GPUs and all AMD gpus. Hopefully Microsoft finally releases their "Singularity" Windows that ditches legacy support and the NT kernal and moves towards Linux like they've been talking about for about 15 years now.
>>741594502>microjeetIt's a pretty funny insult you picked.
>>741594459https://www.sonatype.com/blog/atomic-arch-npm-campaign-adds-malicious-dependency
>>741596239Why would anyone trust the germans
>>741594521They said it will take 1-2 years before they have a debloated build ready for general consumers and that was in May of this year. So I wouldn't hold your breath. Might be too late by then! Techtoobers are shilling Linux hard and most people agree that CachyOS is the way to go.
>>741596354>NPM dependency hell involvedKek
>>741594034>I went for CachyOSGood pick.
Any 'Azzite bros in the chat..
>>741596337Because the country is poor and they made a nation-wide push for their citizens to learn/embrace linux since linux runs the world. Azure is ran by Linux after all. So is Google Cloud and AWS. If you want a meaningful job in IT you're going to be using Linux.
>>741596473windows superpower by 2030 saars!
>>741596549>immutable OSGreat concept for servers and potato-IQ people. So maybe it is great for you. Personally it is extremely limiting to the point of causing problems. It represents a lot of the shit I hate about Windows in that it protects the OS from retarded users and restricts what you can do. Sure you can root it and gain full rights but that defeats the purpose of Atomic Desktop (the Fedora OS Bazzite is built on) and if you're doing that you should just use an Arch/KDE distro with Wayland since you'll have better compatibility, better performance and be able to do the things you want to do without your OS telling you NO. Something like CachyOS is the perfect niche for that. It is also a turn-key OS and retard proof. Even will load in your Nvidia/AMD drivers for you and single-button-press Proton setup for all your games.>>741596647I hate India more than anyone and if I was president I'd glass them with all the nuclear weapons in our arsenal then unleash a bioweapon that sterilizes Indians worldwide but I'm not. It doesn't change the fact that Linux literally runs the world, nigger.
>>741596567>rationalizing a shitpost graph
>>741594034I bought a separate drive to put Linux onto. I keep the windows one in the box just in case. I am also of the belief that you should never put your OS and storage on the same drive, lest one bad day ruins everything all at once.
>>741594034>he didn't make 2 separate partitions for cachy os/efi
>>741596750Bazzite's perfectly fine for people who just want a steamdeck-like experience but for a desktop, where they don't do anything complicated at all and just game.But yea, I personally don't use it and go with Cachy.
>>741594217stop spreading FUD retarded jeet
>>741594034It's just an operating system. Don't make it your personality. I've met people who introduce themselves, then proceed to tell me they use Linux within the first 5 minutes. Do not be these people.
>>741594034do old games work, likes Ys, Sims 1, RTC etc?
>was considering dual-booting >Linux installs require you to not just create an OS partition but a partition for Linux stuff to be installed which means I'd basically need a new set of hard drives just to make sure everything would work if I were to switch full time
>>741596750I've been wanting to ditch SteamOS because of immutability, but I figure if I leave Cachy Handheld alone for too long it's gonna break on updates.
>>741595282thank you nonny>>741595342it's not TDE, it's KDE plasma 6.7
Simple as.
>>741594034the honeymoon will be over when you start trying to run programs or play some kind of niche game that doesn't have native support or has some obscure dependency that's windows only OR you can hack together a kinda-working version IF the 5 required programs all manage to work on your distro because they were only made to work on the author's special snowflake version of linux he hacked togetherit's fucking awful i lasted a month before i went running back.
>>741597041You want linux to be on its own drive seperate from windows anyways. Idk if its superstition, rumors or an actual fact but every linuxfag says to keep your linux partition on its own drive so the windows partition doesn't fuck with it.
>>741597081New KDE still supports a dock on the bar? nice
>people still use windows in $CURRENT_YEARwere you dropped on your head as a child or something?
>>741597140Bullshit post until you explicitly say what alleged program all this time wasting was for
as someone who doesnt use steam and i pirate games how does that work on Linux? does the game just install normally like on windows?
>>741597169That's a fact, and while you can just reapply rEFInd or something as easy every time Windows behaves as malware on the boot sector, it's annoying and probably too much for someone dipping their toes.
as soon as steam gets rid of 10 support, i'll nuke the partition and stay on Arch full time
>>741595178What theme is this?
>>741597263nigga Steam works on windows 7 still, just have to change 1 line of codeit will work on 10 for the next 10 years probably
>>74159736410 is an upgrade of 711 is a downgrade
>>741597181the dockapps aren't "swallowed" into the bar in the traditional sense but KDE has extensive window rules and i've basically set rules on the dockapps that make that specific section of the taskbar function like a dock>>741597269it's a riced version of irixium https://store.kde.org/p/2142966
>>741596549is this like steamos?
>>741597190anyone? how does a denuvo cracked game work on Linux? do you need to run it through Steam to use that proton thing?
>>741597189*nasally faggot voice* "bullshit post unless you fit my arbitrary definition of what time wasting is" just kill yourself dude
>>741594832official package repositories are vetted by the distro maintainers, so you can generally trust that you're not installing literal malware or buggy packages. distro maintainers are usually volunteers that you can get in touch with and request packages be added to the official repository (whether they do it or not is another matter)and it's Linux, at the end of the day you can install things from source, use AppImages, Flatpaks, etc. But then it falls to you to make sure you're not installing malware, same as any OS.
>>741595342That's KDE, anon.
>>741597190>>741597441if you have steam you add every pirated game as a non-steam game and it just works, sometimes you'll need to pick a proton compatibility setting under the game's steam properties, sometimes not. denuvo games work. kernel anti cheat games do not
>>741597059>I've been wanting to ditch SteamOS because of immutability, but I figure if I leave Cachy Handheld alone for too long it's gonna break on updates.I've had my work TV running CachyOS for 2-3 years now and haven't had to reinstall it yet. I just update once a month like I do Windows. No issues. But I get that. Arch can explode itself if you >sudo packman -Syufor all your updates lmfao, but their in-house update manager is really good about preventing you from bricking your OS. You can just disable immutability in your steamOS install though. That's what I did with my SteamDeck on day 1 (I have a launch unit) using:>sudo steamos-readonly disableYou can do what most folks do and disable when you need to make changes and enable when your done. Just make a bash script that checks the status and toggles it to the other and leave it on your desktop so you can double-click it when you need to make changes. Here is a script for you:#!/bin/bash# Get current state (disable = writable, enable = read-only)STATE=$(steamos-readonly status 2>/dev/null)if [[ "$STATE" == *"disabled"* ]] || [[ "$STATE" == *"disable"* ]]; then # Currently writable enable read-only pkexec steamos-readonly enableelse # Currently read-only disable it pkexec steamos-readonly disablefiMake sure to set it as executable with: chmod +x ~/Desktop/toggle-ro.sh (this assumes you saved it to desktop and named the file toggle-ro.sh)You can also make a shortcut with:nano ~/Desktop/Toggle ReadOnly.desktopPaste into the shortcut:[Desktop Entry]Name=Toggle SteamOS ReadOnlyExec=/home/deck/Desktop/toggle-ro.shIcon=dialog-passwordType=ApplicationTerminal=falseThen make it executable after:chmod +x ~/Desktop/Toggle\ ReadOnly.desktopAnd of course you need a password to sudo using:passwd
>>741597441You can use port-proton if you really don't want to install steam, wine-staging is also pretty good these days with minimal impact between the two in my experience but that is just my hardware, maximum configuration you might wanna do is set up proper directories on the installer, or maybe use winetricks and protontricks for dependencies, you could also try your hand at sandboxing for extra safety if you download from multiple sources
>>741597571so its like Windows but with extra steps? i dont get it...
The actual best distro is Pika OS but for some reason it's not as popular as the other ones
I only have Linux, but even I'll admit I'm getting tired of it. A few times I've had to go "oh sorry I can't play that" and it's getting my buddies frustrated
>>741597642what's the extra step in question?
>>741597692having to install fucking Steam to play a pirated game
When you want to play some random game that just arbitrarily doesn't work, you're going to have a bad time. You might play game 1, game 2, and now you're all geared up to play the best one, game 3, when... it doesn't work on shitix. So you spend hours and hours looking for fixes, editing .ini files, trying this and that combination of wine + winetricks + proton... before you realize it's better to just have a dedicated gaming pc with windows 10/11 and another pc you do regular pc shit on
>>741597675it's fine for like a laptop or a steam machine but it's awful as a serious gaming desktop, you will always run into stuff you can't do or you can possibly do if you have a computer science degree and enjoy being repeatedly smashed in the testicles with a hammer
>>741594832>The whole repository logic is fucknuts to begin withIt allows reproducibility of builds, auto checksum verification, and auto dependency resolution.Nobody's stopping you from downloading and installing raw packages, or using whatever repo you want.
>>741597419>it's a riced version of irixium https://store.kde.org/p/2142966Thanks. I was looking for an older school theme once I move over, the redmond and chicago ones weren't quite doing it for me last time I ran KDE and XFCE but this looks nice. Particularly like the beige. The clock's nostalgic too. Reminds me of win3.1x which I think had the same one?What's the hotbar with the desktop/games bunch of icons next to the clock? That looks real useful.
>>741597725>having to install SteamYou're not even a PC gamer if you don't have Steam installed.
>>741597423It's basically SteamOS: Fedora edition. Where SteamOS is Arch based.
>>741597731I use it on my gaming desktop and I'm sorry to say that's the case. But I'm also too busy and lazy to get windows back on it, so I'm just going to roll with it for now.I was actually planning on chucking the desktop all together and just have a steam machine because I travel between two houses across the country constantly, but that's shot for obvious reasons.
>>741597725you don't have to dude it's just one method. makes it simple and unified if you already use steam. otherwise you install wine and double click the .exe installer as per usual. or use a manager like lutris. there are tons of options. wine is the simplest experience.
>>741597781nice cuck mentallity
>>741594832There is literally a worm running rampant on the AUR right now and has infected over 1k different packages because its all just user submitted with no oversight.https://thenextweb.com/news/arch-linux-aur-malware-credential-stealer-supply-chainThis does not mean you should never install things from other users, but it does mean you should be extra careful when you do and actually verify the source.
>>741596840Can you elaborate more between Cachy and Bazz? I planned on building an ITX Gabecube and probably dual boot with Windows for anticheat slops, still need some pointers between those 2 distros though. Does Cachy have an option to boot straight into steam for a console like experience?
>>741597621Oh? I was under the impression that got undone every update. Thanks.
>>741597730trying to play kyber on linux and finding every roadblock was something that would take all of 5 seconds to troubleshoot was the breaking point for me. this came after a program completely fucked up the sorting of my porn folder (and even permanenly fucked up som files) because i was tired of this shit not being able to populate thumbnails like windows so i ran a program to do it and it turns out instead of just adjusting the thumbnails.db IT REPLACES THE FUCKING IMAGE FILES ENTIRELY. every goddamn thing in linux is like this, the worst annoying bullshit w11 has to offer doesn't hold a candle to how fucking shitty linux is.
>>741597725You can run pirated shit without steam just fine. Its just that running shit using steam is very painless compared to rawdogging that shit with wine.
>>741597869>muh thumbnailsWhat is this, 2010?
>>741597731I've been on linux for like 8 months now for gaming and I have no idea what you're talking about. Mint Cinnamon and then eventually Fedora KDE
>>741597653>Pika OS>DebianProbably this, because Debian is boring. It is a rock solid OS and probably a good choice for brainlet windows users>gnomeCringe>KDE versionBased, so this seems like a pretty good option for people. KDE PikaOS with builds for AMD and Nvidia to take all the guesswork out. That's a great option for noobies since Arch is prone to shitting the bed if you're retarded and update outside of the Cachy update manager. Neat. Never heard of that spin. Good recommendation.
>>741597867Not if you put it in your startup script.
>>741597962he is just jelly that he got filtered so he constantly samefags and whines in every linux thread
>>741597778i got a bored of the windows 9x titlebars too after a little while. pretty sure you can easily change the colors on the irixium theme under color options in KDE settingsthe clock is windows NT clock.exethe hotbar program is turbolauncher (it's freeware that has a registration popup on launch but you can easily register it with any registration code found on the web)the launcher is really useful and despite being a windows program from 2000 it requires very little tinkering to make it launch linux programs or anything you wantboth run with wine
>>741595178linux users are like the faggots that put 1000 stickers all over their laptop and car
>>741594034Enjoy your malware in the AUR KEK
>>741595178probably one of the nicest non-WM desktops ive seen in threads like theseexcellent work
>>741597675>"oh sorry I can't play that"live service slop with kernel level anticheat that is literally spyware and linux is actaully protecting you from? Because what else doesnt work on linux?
>>741598020So just run the script after updating otherwise. Have you had anything break?
>>741598340it's okay i also had sour grapes that i could only change colors on windows 10 and do nothing else. it was depressing>>741598413cheers that's mighty kind of you
>>741598481Nothing yet. Have had my unit since launch. First wave of orders. These days it pretty much stays connected to my livingroom TV for media playback and light gaming though. Tend to take my Switch 2 with me to work instead.
>>741595178can you get this visual style on steamOS? as in a deck
>>741598592Excellent, thanks again anon.
>>741598625steam deck runs on arch with KDE (coincidentally the exact same as the screenshot) so you could theoretically make it look exactly the same. only difference is i'm pretty sure the steam deck defaults to wayland, whereas that's X11
>>741598340It's performative. Notice how nobody who uses Windows ever has to let you know they use Windows, but there are dedicated threads to Linux and a Linux user will always let you know they use Linux, whether verbally, or like you said through wearing symbols, as if in a cult. It's not use arguing with cultists or trying to convert them. If you've seen the Bricks & Mortars Mormon thing, just treat them as such. They represent the same type of ideologically captured individuals who's only goal is to promote their ideology and subvert anything else.
>>741598712Why are you in threads about linux if you dislike it so much? Are you just here to shit your diaper in public?
>>741596239Loonix is as secure as windows which is to say they all have their problems.
>>741598765I can ask the same. Why are you on /v/ not talking about video games?
>>741598712>the infamous "linux cultists" posterDid you go to therapy yet? It's unwell how obsessed you are with Linux users. Last time I saw you, you cried for 400 posts straight when nobody liked your bland Windows desktop in the Desktop thread. Mental illness.
>>741594034F
>>741598257Yeah, I like the boxy look of the 9x stuff but I didn't enjoy some of the choices made. I probably wanted something closer to the SerenityOS theme but for KDE.Come to think of it the beige is almost pantone like thos old PC chassis.>nt clock & turbolauncheroh cool, it's the actual windows clock. Didn't really consider just having windows software running through wine beyond games. That's actually really useful.
>>741598832What do you mean? That doesnt even make sense. I AM on /v/ talking about video games. I literally have 4 threads open in other tabs talking about video games and have posted ITT about playing games on linux. I do not enter threads to talk about things i dont like because why would I waste my time on that? I ignore those threads.You cant>no youyour way out of this. You are literally pic related.
>>741597041ACKSHUALLYLinux needs a drive to be installed to just like windows needs a drive but it will happily walk the ntfs file system just fine. I still have like 2 windows drives I use.
I'M GONNA DO IT
>>741598851>Is involved in series of these threads dedicated to LinuxHave you considered moving these discussions to /g/ where it better belongs
>>741598707Yes SteamOS uses KDE w/ Wayland since you know... it is for gaming. Wayland offers significantly lower latency, doesn't have the screen tearing/frame pacing issues of X11, supports VRR (x11 does not), and Wayland has significantly better performance over X11 for AMD GPUs. There are SOME scenarios where X11 is slightly better with Nvidia GPUs though. But in general if you're gaming you should be using Wayland.>nb4 x11 /g/ cultists start ranting about the CIA and trannies for remarking on wayland's superior performance
>>741598712Nobody truly likes or really enjoys using windows. You put up with the continual enshittification because you are lazy and don't want to take any time to learn anything.When people genuinely give a try and it serves their needs, they get excited and want to share their experiences with others, to let people know that you don't have to accept the shit standard.
>>741598975What games are you gonna try first anon?
>>741598975>linux mintRIP, we lost another one to the coward's OS.
>oh you like discussing serrated shovels with other serrated shovel enthusiasts?>you can't do that you should only be using a regular spade! it is lower maintenance!>us normal shovel users don't discuss our shovels because they are time-tested and flawless>you are a cultist if you keep discussing the novelties of the serrated shovel
>>741598952>Guys I'm talking about whiskey not whiskey glasses, NO I will not take this to drinkware board! This is about whiskey glasses! So it belongs in the whiskey board!I think you should post on the drinkware board.
>>741599064>literal schizobabble
>>741598712It's ok anon, someday we'll release you from you walled garden and give you choice in how to run your games. You'll probably still piss and cry about it then though.
>>741598980Actually, SteamOS was using X11 for desktop up to... a few days ago?https://steamcommunity.com/games/1675200/announcements/detail/697641379212298073
>>741597974They're actually working on their own DEWhat's amazing about this distro is that it has a performance similar to Cachy but it is not arch-based nor does it use Cachy's custom kernel (as far as I know)
>>741598980If /v/irgins are considering switching to Linux then this is terrible advice because chances are, they're using NVIDIA cards. And unless they have the newest ones, they will see the best performance on X11.
>>741594832Pacman is the official repository, feel free to use that to your heart's content. AUR is an entirely community driven repository that has had some malware issues as of late. That's what people are warning against. AUR isnt even installed by default either, so you pretty much have to go looking for it anyways.
>>741599193KDE is dropping support for X11 completely when 6.8 comes out.
>>741599017League of LegendsNah just kidding. Im going to try MGSV and MGS Delta>>741599040W...why. Why is it a coward's OS? Everything I read recommended it for people using Linux for the first time switching from Windows
>>741599040Mint is fine as a first os or a forever os. It was my first and I still think about her at night.
>>741599064Better ban talking about consoles too then. No more Switch threads, Playstation threads, or Xbox threads.Great argument.
>>741599114What is interesting is how there's a lack of awareness of how hard the projection is. Most OS users do not give a shit what OS they're using. They're just using the one with the least friction. If Mac could play video games more easily I'd use a Mac. I have no investment in any one OS, and I am pointing out that many in this thread do have such an investment. And pointing that out has triggered some, apparently.
>>741599269That's true, and with rolling distros, those people will be forced to use Wayland anyway. Either that or not update ever, or switch to a different DE that will support X11, like XFCE.
>>741599289Mint was pretty shoddily maintained when I tried it like 10 years ago.
>>741599134No one is gaming in Desktop mode on SteamOS. Handheld mode, where 99% of all gaming is done on the Steamdeck, is Wayland via Gamescope. You know that. Don't be an "umm acktually" plebbitor.
>>741594832AUR is the arch's "ocean of piss", not the official repo.
>>741599295Based, we should keep linux threads, ban winbaby threads, ban tendie threads, ban snoy threads and xbot threads.
>>741599371>I am a seething autist and it makes me mad that more people don't care about their OS and won't just be happy with anything>it boils my blood that people are talking about things that do not involve me>Why are you talking about Linux when I am using Windows?Get help
>>741599280>MGSVworked flawlessly for me. Make sure to get either ProtonGE or DWproton installed and use it when launching games. The proton that comes with steam is ok but there are better forks like the ones I listed that typically have better game compability. You can install any proton version you want with this nifty tool.https://github.com/Vysp3r/protonplus
>>741596210Just install wine steam you dumb fucking mouth breather. Its better anyways because it doesnt have a file compatability layer designed by retards for retards
>>741599295I'm not saying the entire thead is not discussing video games, but the majority is not. If you are discussing video game consoles, that is discussing video games, because the sole purpose of that thing is to play video games. The sole purpose of Linux is not video games. I assume you understand, if I made a MacOS thread on /v/, that it seems odd? Now why wouldn't a Linux thread be odd?
>>741594034Congrats OP. For once you're not a faggot. Here's your W.
>>741599379Well its been 10 years since. If I had grips it would be that I couldn't get the desktop to show two different backgrounds using multimonitor and because debian, old packages. The first point is personal taste, the second can be dealt with using the edge iso, or if you're savvy, other means.It is a perfect OS to dip your toes into Linux with. As always, keep windows around just in case and enjoy what you can do with your computer.
>update endeavourOS>it's the titan versionI don't want to gas the spacians, but my linux is telling me i should do something about em
but can it play koikatsuonly reason why i haven't migrated OS
>>741596337>25% of the planets population>15% of Linux usersStrong case buddy
>>741599547to add to this, i'm currently playing mgs5 and it works perfectly for me with no compatibility set at all
>>741599135This is the first I've heard of that. What are they trying to do? Just a gnome spin like ubuntu and zorin or something more elaborated?
>>741599545>Assumes I use WindowsWhy would you make that assumption? Do you think all your enemies are Windows users? That's... interesting.
>>741599280>>741599289Because it is Ubuntu with a WIndows-like DE. At least use something tuned for gaming that is also user friendly like https://wiki.pika-os.com/en/home (the KDE version). KDE will look just like you're used to and you can pick the ISO for the GPU you have so you don't even have to worry about finding drivers. It is Debian (what Ubuntu is based on and therefor Mint) so it is rock solid and hard to fuck up. Ubuntu is a cursed distro. Their board has a literal former CIA officer on it and they got caught spying on their users in Ubuntu a while back and basically do the same shit Windows does (local search being sent to 3rd parties like Amazon/Google). I wouldn't touch it. Not when easier distros like Debian exist that are also more stable or more performant distros that are plenty stable like CachyOS exist. Or even immutable retard proof ones like Bazzite exist.
>>741597169Every time windows does a remotely sizeable update, it overwrites the boot partition of the drive it's on, and sometimes EVERY boot partition on the entire computer leading to shit like broken GRUB configs on a good day and boot partitions borked so bad you have to go into the bios and navigate to a EFI image manually to boot. This has happened so many times I don't even bother dual booting anymore. Windows only ever lives on sandboxed VMs because clearly it can't be trusted with physical hardware.
>>741599371>If Mac could play video games more easily I'd use a Mac.It can't, though.Kind of the point. Maybe it should.
>>741599423>No one is gaming in Desktop mode on SteamOS. You'd be surprised, but okay.>>741599586I vaguely recall something about them breaking the update to the next version and asking me to download an iso or something, I'm not sure, and then something went wrong there and I just left the toaster like a LTS dinosaur. Then there was the ISO breach too. Cinnamon, for as good as it looked, was pretty bad.
>>741594034>he fell for a meme distrolollmao even
>>741599721>>741599280>>741599289The other big issue is Mint doesn't have any easy process for loading in proprietary drivers for your GPU or preconfigure Proton like CachyOS, Bazzite, or PikaOS. So genuinely you're making the experience harder for yourself.
>>741599712Are you retarded? You said>Most OS users do not give a shit what OS they're using. They're just using the one with the least friction. If Mac could play video games more easily I'd use a Mac.So you don't use Mac, and you don't use Linux. So you obviously use Windows. Kill yourself you bad faith worm.
Is anyone in thread running the steamos current image on their desktop? If so, which hardware platforms and how is it?
>>741599801if you can't be bothered to access proprietary repositories even with a GUI, maybe you are not capable of playing videogames and should stick to tic-tac-toe
>>741599668YesI run it with wine but I had to tweak a couple things (which I do not remember) for it and other unity games. Hopefuly the Proton anons can report a more just-werks experience.
>>741599824I do use Mac... I have a literal MBP. I also have a Windows desktop just for games. And I use Linux at work.Like I said>Every one of my enemies must be a Windows userThis is how insane you are.
Linux is bad for computers because then you'll want to do something like print a document and it'll stop working. For a game console it should not be an issue, the PS5 runs on FreeBSD o algo.
>>741599801I wouldn't say its hard but it is an extra step. I'm on the fence about gaming distros but the new ones coming out are good. I'm currently on endeavoros but if I hop again it might be to one of these.
>>741599927>Mac could play video games more easily I'd use a Mac.>I'd use a MacIlliterate sped. Stick to Windows.
>>741594217Cachy is based on Arch, thoughdamn, even I knew that
>>741599861>>741599987Well the only reason people pick Mint is because they don't want to have to think. And that's fine unless you want to game. If you want to game and you don't want to think about it then the only real options are CachyOS, PikaOS and Bazzite. You're just making it harder on yourself if you go Mint.And you'd be shocked at how your average Windows user treats drivers. If it doesn't come in through Windows update they aren't applying it. I've seen folks with 5090 FEs using launch drivers because that is what Windows update installed for them. Most people are fucking clueless. And clueless people looking to install Linux for gaming should only be using CachyOS, PikaOS or Bazzite. You know I'm right.
>>741600005>I'd use a MacWhat part of the statement implies illiteracy?
>>741600039
>>741600039Mint probably "game" well enough.No cool gamescope, but games will load and run
>>741600039God, you reminded me of having to unplug the ethernet before Windows Update bricked my GPU driver install on first boot. Indian excellence.
>>741600039I did it with Mint just fine HOWEVER, those do sound brettu good and I would recommend them.
>>741600039ThisIt's ok to be clueless btw
>>741594034On Kubuntu for 5 years now and I haven't dual-booted Windows for 3 years. There are annoying things from time to time, just like how there are on Windows, or MacOS. I can safely say I've had a Windows laptop, a MacBook, and a Linux laptop and the sum of the parts makes Linux the best option. For sure. I wish more people would try it for themselves. I installed Mint for my nan and even she prefers it ("It's so much easier to use").
>>741600189>cant even install windows these days without an internet connection>win11 removed the ability to make offline accounts>making offline accounts also required you to do some 1337 haxxor shit to open a fucking terminal just to say "i dont want a microsoft account right now thanks"and yet people will piss and shit themselves at installing ganoo plus loonix
>>741600327Absolutely! That's why superb shit like PikaOS and CachyOS exists. Also the retarded stepchild Bazzite is present. Not everything needs to come with a 10,000 page instruction manual. I'd argue that the more turn-key the OS is the better it is. Tech should get out of the way of the user and allow them to do what they want/need rather than tinker with it to get the result they desire. No need to feel shame over it.
>>741599423I'm posting from my Steam Deck through Desktop mode right now.I use it as a second PC while docked to another monitor with kb&m, it's comfy as fuck for playing indies and emulated games.I'll probably replace it with the Steam Machine and use the Steam Deck as a handheld exclusively, though.
"distro wars" are pointless.Just pick one and try it.Learn from the experience.Figure out what you don't like.Customize it with what you *do* like.
>>741600432Last I heard Rufus itself has to offer some iso unfucking solution baked in.
linux just worksand if it doesn't it's your hardwareand if it's not your hardware it's your distroand if it's not your distro it's your proton versionand if it's not your proton version you did something wrongand if you didn't do something wrong, that program or feature wasn't important anywayand if it was important, this linux alternative works fineand if it doesn't work fine, you're actually indian>>>/g/
>>741600524This is the way.
>>741599703My bad it won't be a full DE, they're working on a Wayland tiling window manager called MangoWM. It is not surprising since it's obvious the devs favor Hyprland
>>741594414I agrrheee wit him. please install back the windows saar
>>741600545When linux fail you can fix it (and it will fail).When windows fail, you buy a new hardware, because the drivers for what you have will forever be shit.
>>741600327There is no excuse these days. I just install Claude Code CLI and ask it to do everything for me. From modifying my .zshrc or nvim init.lua, to installing packages. I do not look at any config files nor any manpages for any commands. I have forgotten everything except ls -laht and vim keybindings. It's a waste of brain juice and I would rather direct my attention at furthering my ideology and fomenting my anger towards Windows users.
>>741600039Mint has outlived literally thousands of fotm meme distros
>>741600687>I just install Claude Code CLI and ask it to do everything for me
>>741600039Mint is loveMint is life
>>741600761Because it is a literal nothing distro. It is just Ubuntu with Cinnamon or MATE as the DE, Clementine (shit) as the media player and Dolphin (OK) as the file explorer. They don't do anything. It is 99.99% identical to Ubuntu. If you want Ubuntu then use a Debian based distro because Debian is the same as Ubuntu but far more stable and far more compatible. You shouldn't bother with SNAPs or flatpacks anyway.
>>741600850I get liking Cinnamon, since it is just Gnome 2.x before Gnome shit the bed and chased Tablet UI users. But Mint is just ubuntu and ubuntu is boring. If you want boring just use Debian with Cinnamon imo.
>>741598707so how do you do it
>>741598975I did it, I installed it. Is this program good for playing games?
>>741598340isn't that a mac owner motif?
>>741594034>To be fair, i've convinced myself to dislike the games that don't workFTFY
>>741601106he's projecting
>>741601138Name 5 games that don't run on Linux.Protip: they're shit
>>741594034I abandoned windows since december and have been using cachy only.
>>741600850mint was my first love but I eventually moved to arch.never giving up cinnamon though, computer beauty perfected
>>741594034Its fine if your library is full of games that "just werk" but have fun once you come across games that dont, or want to pirate a newer title (gg with fitgirl etc repacks), or want to run specific mods in games.Trying to use peripherals other then a gamepad is a fucking headache as well.
>>741599801wat
>>741599581Doesn't seem in the least bit odd if it were a Mac OSX gaming thread.
>>741601276Literally almost everything pirated works, without exaggeration, if you know how to install it through Steam. I have World for Warcraft running through Steam as we speak.
>>741598712>>741599003Part of it is ubiquitousness, but yeah.Noone using windows actually takes pride in using windows, myself incldued.
>>741601212I've been on Mint for about a year now. What's so great about Arch?
>>741601021Yes, but I suggest you also Faugus Launcher, Bottles and Heroic Launcher.Faugus is the easiest, Lutris is technically better, but is complicated and has a few quirks and unfixed bugs, not pushed to the stable client yet.Bottles is a decent alternative for some use-cases, and Heroic is the best for GOG games.>>741601203I recognize some of those icons, but what are the others on your desktop?
>>741601021no, that shit is garbage and just tricks me into wasting time, literally every game just works if i do it manually with barely any effort and every lutris game entry is broken and wont fucking work and just tricks you into wasting your time trying to get it to work using it
>>741601340Yeah except sometimes they just dont work. Tried to run pirated BG3 the other week, no go, at least I couldnt be bothered to make it work. Same with Total War: Three Kingdoms.>le skill issueI was running DCS World and Falcon BMS on Arch before proton was a thing.
How come everyone using linux has a toaster, really makes you think
>>741601417I've still not found a good use case for Bottles.I have tried Faugus and Heroic though, and they're alright for the most part.
>>741601340ive been playing wow on a private server on my deck too. its fucking sweet. its warmane. i guess its at wotlk right now. game runs flawless 90fps at the native 1280x800 resolution on ultra settings with 2xmsaa. all that on the oled screen makes it look miles better than when i played wow retail 10+ years ago
>>741601512I dont think I have a toaster at all. I am stuck on an AM4 cpu until DDR5 ram prices drop though.
Why does everybody tell people to use either CachyOS or Bashite but nobody mentions EndeavourOS?
>>741601512windows kinda forces you to upgrade for no good reason so it makes sense.
>>741601010go to the start menu and find kde settings, go to themes, there's about a dozen different things to customize from global themes to plasma themes to fonts, colors, qt themes, gtk themes, etc. just go through everything and start customizing. download themes from the kde store either manually or directly from the settings app itself
>>741594034now you try the open source games from the repository
>>741594832>it confounds me>why wouldn't you install software from github.com/lolgonnafuckyou/thissoftwarewillfuckyouroflYou might be retarded. Seek help.
>>741601510And Forza Horizon 6 with hardware that didnt meet minimum system requirements, lol nope.Its just not worth the effort. Tinker trannies only care about tinkering though.Anyone with half a brain who actually cares about their time just has a different hard drive running windows for games.
>>741601575It's just more popular, that's all.
>>741601417mullvad browser, mullvad vpn, steam, faugus, zen browser, vesktop, crossover, reaper, gimp.
>>741595558>2% of these empty soda cans have bombs inside them>who cares, no one is drinking from them currentlyyou like just having bombs hanging around?
>>741600582Ahh, I see. Yea, that I think I heard about when I was looking at what Pika offers. To be fair, it does sound like a pretty stable and simple distro. Makes me want to throw it on another computer to check it out
>>741596750>It represents a lot of the shit I hate about Windows in that it protects the OS from retarded users and restricts what you can doI think you just misunderstand what it is. There's no restrictions and no rooting. You have full rights the moment you install it.It's just a different design that focuses on containers. For example, instead of installing something like Jellyfin as a package, you run it with podman, docker, whatever and your actual system stays clean. I prefer that, so I use Atomic.If something can't be installed in a container/flatpak or you just prefer it to be part of the system, rpm-ostree is the intended way to install it. It's part of the design. You're not defeating the purpose unless you install everything that way and treat it like a standard distribution.
>>741601598For me, its powermanga
>habhlahblhblh this distro is based on arch linux>figure i'll skip to arch linux since it's the father of all these builds>it wants me to handle installation of everything completely fucking manually>literally handle EVERYTHING about installation>realize cachyOS and other "it just werks" linux installers exist for a reason, that being the granddaddy linux distros all seem to be run by giga-autistic dinosaurs who think install wizards, comprehensible instructions, and legible wikis are the devil
>>741601575It's more tard friendly than Endeavour while also being better at gaymen.t. used endeavour for a while a few months back, switched to cachy 3 months ago
>>741601510Weird. BGS3 works on my machine. https://www.protondb.com/app/1086940>>741601558Nice bro. I was playing some private server until the Turtle WoW fiasco, now I'm chilling on actual WoW classic and occasional retail. Retail runs at stable 110 FPS for me in most zones, just not cities, where I only get about 50 (same case on Windows). Classic is just turbo 144 FPS at 1080p.
>>741601631why are you blaming linux if your hardware doesn't meet the minimum requirements for the game...?
>>741601512Personally, I've assembled my current PC in 2017, and while now it's basically a potato PC, I never found a reason to upgrade it: I don't play heavy AAA games, and the most intensive I played was Elder Ring with the Steam Deck.I believe that the last games I truly enjoyed apart from ER were Nier Automata and MGSV, from there I started playing indies, japanese porn games and stuff like Dwarf Fortress, Rimworld and Factorio. Other than that, only recompiled and emulated ones.Also, with the hardware prices so up the roof, I have 0 reasons to buy new stuff, unless it's to fix broken stuff.>>741601516>I've still not found a good use case for Bottles.I've noticed that it works fine with windows apps.>>741601663Thanks!!!
>>741601784You know that you could have just started using CachyOS kernel if you really wanted the "better at gaymen" part right? You didn't need to change your entire distro.
>>741601767>comprehensible instructions, and legible wikis are the devilWhile I don't disagree with your general feeling, I find arch wiki very accessible and comprehensible as an idiot winging it.
>>741595178compare timestamp to displayed clockthat's either israel (gmt+3) or west coast (gmt-8)either way, pretty sus
>>741596337you lost
>>741601889Because on windows even though it doesnt meet minimum requirements it still works fine.
>>741601947winging it is why i immediately discarded it and wrote my thumb-drive over with some other distro; the fact that it wants you to handle bare-metal installation entirely on your own and only just barely loads a wiki page over a wired ethernet connection for you to poke around yourself in a command line is embarrassingly bad UX
>>741601938That was months apart, I was dipping my toes on Endeavour but never got around making the switch. I did switch to Cachy now and it shocked me how the "oh so advanced" distro I kept being told not to try was even more rail-guarded.
>>741601976i live in europe and in the screenshot it clearly says it was taken 2 days ago. you okay bud?
>>741602028Oh no, I agree there, but arch wiki is invaluable on helping me learn things while using cachy.
>>741601692>food analogy
Wake me up when the nvidia drivers aren't shit
>>741602354don't think that's ever going to change because nvidia gonna nvidia
>>741596473>Techtoobers are shilling Linux hard and most people agree that CachyOS is the way to go.they have been doing that since 2010
>>741602354enjoy the cryogenic chamber
>>741602354
>>741602354maybe you won't be waiting that longhttps://www.techpowerup.com/350134/nvidia-open-source-linux-nvk-driver-gets-experimental-dlss-support
>>741602585I don't even care about DLSS support, I just don't want to have to purge them every few months from TTY because they shat themselves during an update
>>741601512>You MUST BUY the latest hardware go-... Customer!!
>>741602585DLSS support is already a thing if you use the proprietary driver but this is promising.
>>741602354They're only shit IF you insist in using the open source drives.
>>741594034next step is to make it your entire personality and look for people having issues with windows so you can proselytize the virtues of linux to them until they become adamantly against linux. microsoft thanks you for your service.
>>741602669wasn't that a one time thing due to the whole compressed kernel change?
>>741602838It's happened to me several times. Most recently it just decided to stop displaying shit on my second monitor on my work laptop even though it could detect it. It's not constant, but it happens enough for me to not want to bother with it on my main PC
>>741602815literally nobody had ever done that to me my whole life using windows. jfc stop hallucinating a persecution complex
>>741602915what series is your card?
>>741602815Retard
>>7416029513060 in the laptop, 3080 in my main PC
>>741602815And thats a good thing.
>>741602937Not him but you're either lying or you never browsed these threads before.
>Read through the comments>It's literally a bunch of ESL posts>Some of them are blatant chatGPT responses. So this entire thread it's just one or 2 ESL shills using AI and probably some kind of AI bot, It's a shame what this site has become..
>>741603021i'm not a retard that uses windows that walks into a linux thread and starts complaining about things that are wrong with windows and gets mad that he gets told to use linux in a linux thread. are you on drugs
>>741602992that tracks
>>741602669>>741602915Stop torturing yourself with opensource drives. They might get good some day but there is zero reason to use them outside of being a freetard.>>741603070You're changing the subject. There are several people that make linux their entire personality and end up pushing people away from it. I honestly don't care because nothing good ever comes from anything getting popular with normalfags.
>>741603175This happened with the proprietary drivers. I don't care about open source I care about what works
>>741603289>This happened with the proprietary drivers.What distro are you using?
>>741603175walk away from the computer? close the tab? i'm still on windows but i enjoy reading these threads and will switch to it eventually when i learn a bit more. i don't understand what's so wrong about windows users getting bullied anyway. if enough people switch it will only make it better. at the end of the day if a distro turns to shit because it got too popular with normies then a new better one can take it's place because that's the nature of linux
>>741603289no, you don't get it, the problem was already fixed, and if it's still happening to you, then it's your hardware, or your distro, so spend your entire week reinstalling shit trying to fix it and if it's still happening, then it's your fault and you're doing something wrong, basically you're a retard for having this problem. lol
>>741603175>here are several people that make linux their entire personalityThats me. I made switching to linux my entire personality because linux is fucking amazing and Im retarded for not swapping sooner. Fedora is great, KDE is great, proton is great, freedom is great, everything about the experience is great.Something is broken? just look it up, or even better, confidenetly assert on some forum or 4chan that its not broken or that its unfixable and some autistic anon will tell you exactly how to fix it. Because anything "wrong" with linux is simply a bug or a feature that hasnt been added yet, they are things that can be fixed. Where as everything wrong with windows is a core design fault and there is no way to fix most of it. I spent most of my waking hours on my pc , be it playing games, modding them, browsing 4chan, watching youtube, etc etc, and I can tell you that my last year on linux has been way better of an experience than I have ever had on windows and I have been using it since XP.
>>741603443I feel like we should encourage the bullying so it becomes some kind of console wars renaissance but only for PC-chads, since consoles are pretty much irrelevant these days
>>741603530based
>>741594034For now it works, but when you'll need help to troubleshoot a very specific emulator problem or random compatibility/driver issue you'll realize firsthand why windows is the most popular consumer OS. You will be expected to tinker things yourself. Linux and their distros are designed for people who want to understand their machine, on top of using it for work/hobbies and whatnot. Windows treats their users like retards but the benefit is that there are many retards like you and me. Meaning if there's a problem, critical mass will dramatically increase the odds of you finding a solution cuz another retard likely faced the same issues. Take care OP
>>741603513So you're a manchild in your late 30s who spends his time playing and modding anime games, watching youtube all day and browsing 4chan, especially /v/, and you've made using linux your entire personality? You're either a millionaire or a sad retard, and I think it's pretty obvious which one you are.
>>741603609>heh, everything may be working now, but just you wait, eventually something will break and then you'll have to look up how to fix it! Hah! bet you didn't think that would happen huh? See you back on Windows soon, OP.
>>741601789>protondbhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2E2Ma8qXc
>>741594034it'll be okay. even when it's not, you'll fix or you'll get over it but it's never a world ending thingit's better to play games on linux because you genuinely want torather sitting on /v/, not playing games at all but hey at least you're on windowslinux makes people fall in love with their computer again so that's pretty cool
>>741603779Well anon, I was being facetious when I said I literally made it my personality and assumed that anyone reading the post would get that it wasnt meant to be literal but I guess... Thats too much to expect for autistic people. Ive been dealing with an extremely debilitating medical condition that leaves me in too much pain to even leave my room most days for a number of years now, so I dont really get the opportunity to do much else. Video games are a nice distraction from health problems.
>>741594034>Literally every game I play works, from 30 year old games to new AAA releases.Why do Linuxfags feel this stupid urge to lie?
>>741603882Oblivion remake is the UE game everyone talks about when talking about UE5 in general.
>>741600009though what? what point are you trying to make?
>>741603882“Works on my machine” usually just means it boots. These people don’t even play their own games they’re too busy spending every day trying to make things work. The moment they see the title screen they declare it “working"
>>741603973What new releases arent working?
>>741603973I've been on Cachy for 9 months and every game in my library I've thrown at it works.The only multiplayer game I play is FFXIV and that also "just works" using the XIVLauncher that's required anyway for plugins.
>>741603953I'm sorry for your mental illness anon, it all makes sense now. Hope you get better soon.
>>741604000It meant it works, I get stable 60 FPS, and I linked the ProtonDB page because it seems he spent zero effort setting a Proton compatibility layer to get it to work as it should. I recognize your specific brand of mental illness instantly, do not respond to me cultist-chan.
>>741600464What’s wrong with Bazzite anon? Genuine question since I’m building a couch console ITX and is migrating to Bazzite specifically since they got that boot straight into Steam thing, and I’m tech retarded, also considering other options like Cachy and PikaOS as well.
>>741604130Your reading comprehension could use some work friend.
>>741604000Why was this post written with the AI “ ” quotation marks? These obsessed fags are literally just raiding the thread with the lowest effort possible.
>>741604203it's ok anon, on day you will recover from your retardation, it's all forgiven. You just can't help it.
>>741599801Ubuntu and by extension Mint literally invented this shit while you were apparently sleeping bro it's not new
>linux gaming threads>zero gaming discussion>400+ replies of shitflingingwhy is this a mainstay on the board, the weirdest stuff is allowed here when a lot more things are getting banned recently
>>741594832when people say don't install things from the aur what they mean is to make sure what you are installing isn't some unmaintained abandonware thats vulnerable as fuck, it's the same as telling people not to click the green download button or running random exe's. the aur is useful and there are a ton of applications that are on there that you can't find anything else, not only that but software actually packaged for your distro will always be more stable than the alternatives. but you have to be more attentive. if you want maximum security just stick to the official repo
>>741604193Nothing really other than it performs like 2% worse than CachyOS and it is immutable. It is good. Don't mind me I'm just an elitist prick. It is a good choice if all you're doing is couch gaming and not using the OS for ANYTHING else. It is fairly easy to use the other two the same way and to boot into big picture mode by setting Steam to launch at startup/login and to do so in big picture. PikaOS is going to have a handheld release soon which will default to big picture mode as well.
>>741604421i wanted to talk about powermanga, but no one replied ;;
>>741601591yeah i knew about that but they all seemed shitbut im finding ones like that >installation of file.tar.xz failed: could not install dependency (kns://plasma-themes.knsrc/api.kde.-look.org/ numbers
