>makes you wait a whole year>just so that it's 2 hours of filler (dykeshit, animeshit, le wacky memes) and 20 minutes of actual content>those 20 minutes can only be accessed through a specific route which skips the entire chapter and ends abruptlyThis guy is the hack of the decade and he only got lucky with his first game
You have no idea how happy i am at how mad shippers and self inserters are after all their shitty memes, spam, and same rape joke. This is one of the best days of the year.
does it have more of the deer mom? just wondering if I should expect more porn of her.
>>741791935Theres nun cat lady
>>741791183DID YOU RIKE IT!?
>>741792307>nun cat ladynice
apologize
>Tricky Toby denies us Dess AND Asriel again
This chapter is even worse than chapter 3 somehow.
>>741791183>dykeshitOn one hand, I hate the dykeshit with all my soulOn the other, this shit reaching critical mass the only chance his dicksuckers will finally wake up and push back against his yurishit
Total HMOFAfag death
>>741791183>dykeshitAnon pic related happened almost 5 years ago. At that point it was obvious the game was half RPG, half vehicle for lesbian fantasies for Toby's pet characters.
>>741793791i just wanted some dragon pussy on my human dick :(
I'm not going to read the thread, just saw Toby's smug face on the catalog. I'm going to give my first impressions from the start of the chapter to the start of the Dark World.I want to kill Toby Fox. I want to kill him. I want to kill him so very bad. At the very least I want to hurt or injure him in some way.
>>741791183Shabbat shalom i'm jewish and deltarune, mixtape and expedition 33 are my favorite games
With jews, you lose. Thanks for the money, dummies.
>>741791421You're a tranny, we get it
>>741791421>>741793791>>741793163you gonna kys when you hit 30
Who was actually expecting anything other than Susie x Noelle?
>>741796845Everyone that wasnt a fag
>>741796932You don't have to like it but that's very obviously where the story was going. You are legit brain-damaged if this came as a surprise to you.
>>741791421Why are you happy? Because now everyone is gay or a dyke? That's not satifying. Why not just write something earnest instead of relying on any romance shit
>>741797208Nta, but as someone who's half and has friends there. People there wanted to be with her.
>>741791183Unironically a hack. He needed the year to pander to japs
>>741797443*Half japSorry
>>741797464The japs don't like pandering though. They believe in free media and expression, but they're also normal people
>>741791421The funny part to me is that grown men unironically self-insert as the beta cuck teenager and not the actual grown man about to figuratively and literally get fat pussy
>"Trapped in an Asylum burning with jelousy">Mfw toby was talking about us
>>741791421This. Real fans are feasting.
>yfw you weren't a krusie cuck
>>741797782What real fans? All sorts of people play this shit. Pandering only to his fetish drives some away
The first girl Toby ever liked turned out to be a lesbian didn't she
>>741791183>dykeshit, animeshit and wacky memesSo the chapter was made for the game target audience.
>>741797890He probably made her one
>>741797684Yeah it's really bizarre that people self-insert as the characters they spend 99.9% controlling instead of random side characters
>>741797762>the phantom pain is the player's feelings towards the game
>>741797684>I self insert as an irrelevant side character you see for 5 secondsHAHAHAHA the cuckold cope of this fanbase is fucking hilarious
>>741796932If you're not a fag then why are you even playing this shit?
>>741797978I love jap media, can speak and understand the language. Yet I'll never play this crap. I peek now and then and it's always funny watching from afar
>>741797684I said this before in an earlier thread but shipping is for mentally stunted manchildren. These people always, ALWAYS go for teenagers/actual children when projecting themselves because cannot process the mind of an adult.
>>741797849How bad is it? Is it like tone deaf writing that has no glimmer of the relationship being a bad idea or is there some shit flying over heads and people are just baiting? Like is Krusie nuked from orbit or is this all a bait and switch? I could see it failing and then Toby has Susie get with no one.
Haven't beat the chapter yet but I think Toby might actually be in pain and feel like a spectator in his personal life as well
>>741797684>Stonewalls the Nice Cream Guy gay shipBurgerchad... I always believed in you...
>>741794613Reporting backI don't want to kill him anymore but he's on thin ice
Doesn't bother me. Mainly because I've never played these games.
I dont understand the appeal of this series.
>>741798087Not even a shipper. Just don't want to sit through forced scenes when I would rather watch Susie and Kris get into hijinks or test the bonds of their friendship. They don't even need to get together. Just give me good fucking writing.
>>741797978This, lol. I don't like the game, but how is anyone surprised when this is all Toby ever does?The performative outrage only exists to populat these shitty threads.
Damn that was a shit chapter
>And though you protest>Your disinterest>I know clandestinely>You're gonna grin and bear it>Your newly lost virginity>Hah!
>>741798207Deltatroon
The Sprite work is starting to get almost too good, Toby was right about it needing to be some level of shitty
>>741798087That's a dumb mentality. You should be able to insert yourself into any media or character regardless of age or features. It's part of immersing yourself and a huge part of jap culture. Dating sims and school life games are enjoyed by adults and kids in japan because of this.
>>741797443I do wonder how angry the nips are going to getYou do not get to make a game with romance and route elements and then the girls just fuck each other while the MC gets nothingThats it ending your company tier behaviour
>>741798109Krusie has been nuked so hard it is literally impossible for it to come back without absurd fanfiction level bullshit.
>>741798118It's OK anon, I'm sure Undyne isn't being horribly tortured and sacrificed on an altar while we're busy lezzing out....How are we sure of that, again?
>>741797684i prefer my pussy thin
>>741791183im not even going to play chapter 6 tbdesu
>>741798191Lefty writers only write about faggots and furshit.
>>741798319They can still be friends. Just that she's going to have sex with his other friend. And beat the fucking shit out of her every week.
>>741798316>I do wonder how angry the nips are going to getThis is literally their national fetish, anon.
>>741798312>You should be able to insert yourself into any media or character regardless of age or features.I kinda get what you're saying but isn't that just basic empathy?
>>741798109>How bad is it?It's time to let go.
>>741797782>Real fanstrannies and tumblr girls?
Was it that bad? I haven't even touched 3 and 4 yet and it sounds like I shouldn't
>>741798109
>>741798316Wishful thinking, anon, but you know damn well Toby is indie royalty as far as Japanese players are concerned. They're going to keep supporting him and the shitty NTR plot.
>husband died>daughter is a dyke>other daughter is dead and probably trying to end the world She had a hard life
pirated version where
>>741798486>the cuck chair is canonaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand dropped
>>741798087Mentally stunted manchildren like the shippers that ruined Adventure Time, of course.
>>7417984783 is the best chapter by far. Every chapter was stellar until this one. And the next one is sure to be better on account of it not being filler.
>>741798473Unironically yes
>>741798478Kris literally gets put in the cuck chair
>>741796695>cares about Deltatroon>calls others trannies
I just dont understand as a man why I would enjoy any part of this plot whatsoever
>now I have to do a normal route to actually have contentYou've gotta be fucking kidding me.
>>741791421I'm happy that I was vindicated in knowing this game was gonna turn out to be total shit when everyone was arguing against me. You were all wrong. i was right.
>>741798109the chapter literally starts with every single character referring to Susie going on a date with Noelle and the get like 3 frames away from kissing before the plot happens. The only salvation for Krusie is a potential scorched earth crash out coming from Kris and Noelle getting killed by the plot
>>741798528reddit
Prove you're not just a chud. Name a well-written lesbian couple.
>just saw a 700 post thread get 404'd, not archivedIt begins
>>741798486>there are still people that think Kris deserves this for hitting us with a hockey stick that one timeDear lord, he's been punished enough. No man deserves this level of cuckoldry.
>>741791183>>final fight of the normal route is you teaming up with berdly against noelle and susie sorry toby I cannot hold my tongue any longer.
So far, pic related has been proven correct.
>>741791183The only good thing about Deltarune is the music.
>>741798623Good, these threads deserve to be banished to /vg/ for eternity
>>741792707He dropped another truth nuke
the game is written poorly and is mostly full of tumblr jokes trying to distract you from the extremely poor plot pacing and "le schizo" tropes and cliches, sorry to say
>>741797618There is an entire genre that is straight up pandering bro wtf
>>741798452Not really. Old men in japan can play and enjoy persona because it's about immersing yourself into the game and story. Nobody cares about being too old or of it's strange.
>>741798642>Chapter 5 has literally nothing to do with the Angel or the Knightlol ok
>>741798528I don't think even a pirated version is worth it at this point
>>741798629Kris is no man!
It seems the Janny won I am afraid.
>>741798620https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLmD_69pXpk
>>741798620Think about it
>noelleknight completely deconfirmed if the knight shows up in ch6 at all>twisted sword is not part of weird route because you can't get the ch5 crystal
AND THE STEAM NEGATIVE REVIEWS ARE COMING IN >chapter 5 is just a softlock on weird route lmfao. update> every brat at the Nintendo Direct>Imagine making me go through years of game only to say "Lol wait a few more years to do the route you want">Are you saying that I paid for the game, found an interesting path to follow, BUT the developers just didn't give a damn and told me to wait a few more years to enjoy the game? Very interesting
Was the ferris wheel worth the 5 chapters worth of build up?
>>741791421Pitiful cumslurping contrarian
>Janny won>Anti-DT schizos won>Pro-DT yurifags won>Copers lost>Chuds lost>Deltarune lost>I won
Should I read homestuck?
>>741798256i deserve it for getting invested
>>741798620But I am a chudI've never played DeltatroonI'm just here to make fun of this literal cuckold fanbase
>>741798681Jap media is of free expression and storytelling. Those who like deltarune there are the "westaboo" types and from what I've seen wanted to get with the deer. This reeks of western lesbo fetishism.
>All of the anons not realizing that this is just setup for Susie and Noelle to be separated by the dimension transfer, leaving the Dino or the doe depending on how things go free for krisThis is all part of the plan.
>>741798725there is no ferris wheel scene
>too lazy/depressed to dig up the post on Anon hoping for me to post my game here when it's finishedYeah, no worries. I plan to post it here when it's done.I just hope Anons don't mind playing as a monster.
How do I get the boss and the egg?
>>741798620I can't.
>>741798712>Anything past Act 5
>>741798763No
>>741797618>Nintendo still gives him the spotlight in their directs>Gets to compose some song for them from time to time>Lots of fanartI don't know, but I think they do care about the pandering.
>>741798601>The only salvation for Krusie is a potential scorched earth crash out coming from Kris and Noelle getting killed by the plot
>>741798558It's gunna suck if Spamton ends up being the peak of the series
>>741791421based and same anyone who didn't think suselle was canon was deluding themselves
>>741798801egg is in the wheat fields
I DONT CARE ABOUT GAY ROMANCE AND QUIRKY CHUNGUS CHARACTERS. I WANT MY CREEPY POSSESSION STORYLINE TO ACTUALLY GO SOMEWHERE
>>741798712Pic unrelated?
>>741791183Anyone know I piracy site where the chapter is available none have updated yet
>>741797762He was talking about Kris, right?The humiliation ritual was a plot device to motivate Kris, right?Toby wouldn't just stick him in the cuck chair in front of the worst yuri ever written to amuse himself, r-right?
>>741798763Ironically?YesUnironically?NoPost-ironically?YesNu-Ironically?No
>>741798723AIEEEEE
>>741798620Jill Stingray and uhhh that other bitch she left
it's good
>>741798763Meh. If you have time to waste, yeah. The Trolls don’t come until Act 3 iirc (it takes fucking ages). The plot is lost by Act 7.
i looooooove being the third wheel, this is why i play video games. the real power fantasy!
>>7417984783 was eh but 4 was goodJust stop playing after 4 and imagine the rest of the story
>>741798763Nope.
>>741798763If you're not autistic, then no because you won't enjoy it. If you are autistic, then no because it'll infest you with brainworms.
It's surprising just how little writing depth the darkworld has. It tells us almost nothing about Asgore/Kris's character. What are we learning these 7 random wacky characters for?
>>741798763It has zero payoff
>>741798834I can find a crapton of mlp and loudhouse fan art in japan as well. That means nothing. The nintendo sponsorship comes from that weird age group they want to target with the systemT.n2 and have lived in japan for many years
the funniest part is that Sans's whole existence basically confirms the Deltarune universe is totally assfucked anywayimagine getting wrapped up in a shipping plotline knowing that
>>741798719twisted sword route was always going to be some variation of aborted weird routebut it doesn't matter because the weird route itself is a nothingburger so twisted sword is going to be like one scene at best
>>741798623I don't think anybody has found the secret boss yethopefully they save this chapter
>>741798828>>741798872I was referring to them beating and mutilating each other
>Susie/Noelle: "Are you sure?">Kris in the cuck chair: "Proceed"
>deltarune was a Bahamut Lagoon remake
>>741798912>>741798723Oh nonono
>>741798912Epstein's strongest soldier will have a melty with these reviews
>>741798990X plain.
has anyone actually finished the chapter yet?
>>741798723Just chuds malding. The rest of the good reviews will drown them out.
>>741798932YOU MISSED THE POINT OF THE GAME CHUD YOUR CHOICES DONT MATTER!!!This is the exact same psychosis as when The Boys Season 4 came out and people said they took the woke stuff too far and then all the retards said 'YOU JUST MISSED THE POINT CHUD IT WAS ALWAYS LIKE THIS'. Uh no, it was different before, and better for it.
Why was the other thread deleted?
>>741798763I would. I think you have to download it nowdays though, unless they fixed the site while I wasn't looking
>>741798629Nah, fuck Kris and not in a good way. We get put in a trash can a few minutes after the lake scene.
>>741799042Not Cultural phenomenon enough
>>741798620I....CANNOT....
>>741798763Yes but don't go past the end of act 5, it's the safest point to stop reading it
>>741797762The one burning in jealousy is Ralsie. He gets more development than Asgore (which still isn't much).
>>741798957pure filler/monster-of-the-week structure. which is fine for a TV show or a shonen, but not when the real plot can fill out a micro post it note
>>741798912>all hail netenyahulol
>>741799042
>>741798723Oh yeah, I forgot to leave a negative review, whoops
>>741799031Make dyke slop to."own the chuds" is totally worth the years of wait
>>741799010Toby already ripped off the pacifist route from Live-A-Live, so why not also rip off the NTR?
Ralsei confirms the one the prophecy tragedy happens to is Susie.
>>741799042it isn't wow4chan has a legit drone and mentally ill mmo addict moderating it and pruning things they don't like.
The entire scene was kino, just a shame we have to wait like 2 years nowDoom posting aside, what do you expect for 7b
Why is the writing so much worse this chapter? Even outside of the shipping shit, it's genuine garbage
>Kris throws his heart in the trash after the Suselle sceneBros... I feel so bad for our nigga Kris...
>>741798990Yeah, that poorly drawn picture was from Susie all along.
KRIS
>>741798620I really can't
>>741791183I think Toby should stop limiting himself to SFW games and finally make a full-fledged NTR H-game. He’s clearly itching to make one. The entire chapter is devoted to the humiliation of the main character.
If toby was japanese it'd be a love triangle with noelle and susie competing for kris.
>>741798620I'm a guy so two women falling in love is beyond my cognitive scope. I have no idea what they want. I can name one or two gay dude couples I sort of understand though.
>>741798871It kind of is though, anon. Both Kris and the SOUL are seeing that no one can change who they are in the world, no one can change anything. Kris is miserable with or without the SOUL's influence, and everything we do to try and help just makes things worse. The Weird Route is seeing how far you can push the boundaries to try and change things, to see how far you'll go to change Kris's world.
>>741791183it can't be that bad
>>741799143Why didn't they just swim? Are they stupid?
So is anyone going to mod this shitheap of a game so that it's actually good anytime soon?
>>741799192Also they would be generic anime whores.
>>741799150toby needs to stay off the internet
>>741799230it is
>>741799047They did very recently but imo reading it through the unofficial homestuck collection is still a better experience
MUH DICK
>>741799042Janny-domo is just warming up before the main course
Did anyone even care about the flowers?
>>741798694Are you sure about that?
>>741797684>>741798087These are the most obvious twitter trannies in the whole thread, by the way.>"heckin self-inserting as TEENAGERS in a VIDEO GAME is BAD!!!!!"
a major problem with the writing is that toby let the fandom do everything. the plot only takes like, 4 days. so toby wrote this taking fan speculation into account, not an actual well plotted work. it's funny that he rips off itoi so hard, since itoi had the mind to show that the friendship they built in mother 2 was only the beginning of a life-long friendship (at least ness and paula)
>>741798620virginia woolf's orlando and her waifu vita sackeville-west
>>741798912Juego de mierda
>the reason why toby is larping about being a nip dev is cuz Trump won and doesn't want to touch USA soil until he leaves>meanwhile, he is taking his anger on his chud fanbase
>>741799312 why does she have a spamton nose
>>741799186This was the case in Chapter 4 btw and only a few schizos saw it coming, that Kris was gonna be shafted in his role as the main character in favor of this annoying purple bitch that everyone pretends to like. These same schizos also knew that Suselle would be canon and the evil rape route would be shafted and Krusie would be gutted. Unfortunately for (You), none of you saw it coming. At least I am no longer alone in hating this game
>>741798316>tfw he becomes Gooseworx 2.0 and gets Kyoanied by a nip or doxxed by a western schizo>nips stop sucking him off and Sakurai cuts the Sans mii costume for the next smash
Remember when Toby was based?
>>741799273botted
>Spent 20 minutes getting free cash from the infinite money box >Tee hee flower dollarsI mean i guess its on me but fuck you
>>741798620I never hear people talk bad about the sailor moon dykes.So I assume they are atleast decent.
>>741799260Water and oxygen are also generic
please answer honestlyhttps://strawpoll.com/LVyK2OQl8Z0https://strawpoll.com/LVyK2OQl8Z0https://strawpoll.com/LVyK2OQl8Z0
Explain to me RIGHT NOW, why Kris can't get with some other person later and why it HAS to be those two specific people.
>>741799054>character is kind of a jerk to us>lets have him experience emotional agony that cannot be easily healed and will eventually lead to him killing himself
>>741799357That's a background leaf, not her nose.
>>741799143>tfw "used up" means saccing noelle like saccing yoshi in smw just so you can get to the other side of the riverI see how it is now
>>741799319Itoi built a whole game and didn't take 8 years (and more to come) to make an early access RPG. It would've been different if this was some CYOA game where he gets input from a lot of people, but clearly he has some idea on where he goes and it's not a good direction.
Downloading the update and starting up the game.Is there like an actual problem or is this just people self-inserting too hard and expecting an unreasonable payoff burning themselves on a hot stove?
Last thread got deleted for ‘spoilers’ After 700 posts
>'sup, lil' bro. I see you've met my wife, Dess.
Decent parent battle royaleAsgore - 1 Toriel - 0
>>741799378The only thing 'based' Toby ever made was the Genocide Route of Undertale.
So it's a NTR chapter?
>>741798316>make a game with romance and route elements and then the girls just fuck each other while the MC gets nothingBoy, do I have bad news for you...
>>741798620Utena/Anthy from Revolutionary Girl Utena.It only manages to get up and stand on its own two feet in the last episode (very appropriate, considering the overall themes) and was hard carried by how it tied into their other relationships until that point, but it still counts in my book and the ending is really satisfying.
>>741791421I'm with anon, lol at fags
>>741791183>buy woke game>get woke game>*AAAAAARRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH WHY IS IT WOKE??????????????????*are you mentally retarded, nigger?
>>741799427Jannies and mods got spoiled lmfao.
>>741799424You'll understand if you play it.
she becomes the rapistI'm so proud of her
He's got no fucking clue what to do with the weird route does he?
>>741799427Janny truly earning his salary.
>>741799403My answer is currently playing it and it's ok.
>>741799424the problem is that NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENSthe entirety of chapter 4 was spent setting up the second half of the game and chapter 5 is right back to NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENING
>>741799456Yay, Asgorefags we eating good
>>741799392Nope. But the two gay villain guys were a beautiful couple.
Hi everybody, Toby Fox here! Hope you're all enjoying the new chapter! In Chapter 6 Susie, Noelle, and Ralsei have a threeway while Kris is locked outside in the rain www
>>741799403shitpostsisters, we're winning!
>>741799143Honestly, I kinda got what I wanted - more deranged Noelle faces
>>741799424[Virgin Scream]
>>741791183I thought this slop was an rpg?Why can't kris just pick whoever to date? Is there really no role playing?
hey /v/ how are we feeling
>>741799498Weird Route keep getting kino moments even if it was less than 20 minutes
>>741799407What people? More than half the game is already fucking over.
>last thread was deletedjust wanted to reply to this retard >>741797932 that androgynous isn't the word they're looking for, it's hermaphroditic
>>741798912TELAVIV IMPRESSED
>>741798620mulholland drive
>the tone of ch4's ending is erased right off the bat, the characters aren't shaken up even just a little bit after what happened, no mention of the final tragedy. >none of the story beats from previous chapters are addressed, the hyped up festival is a complete nothing burger and is tossed aside immediately. >Noelle and Susie are just together forever and ever despite sharing like two scenes with each other. Seemingly a full day of bonding between the two happens of screen while Kris sits on the cuck bench.>Carol does nothing to keep Susie away from Noelle despite what happened in ch4>no mention of the church getting nuked >the flower darkners are the most predictable generic shit imaginable>Asgore is a schizo faggot>Annoying anime dude obliterating the mood in every scene he's in>even more annoying gimmicksI am actually flabbergasted as to how fucking awful this is.
>>741791183
>>741799498This got my cock so hard that I forgot about the disappointing normal routeI just wish we weren't blueballed for two more years
>>741799427Don't worry anon, now that threads are just doomposting about ntr, they'll get the janny seal of approval.
Toby Fox just called me and told me the final chapter will have everyone in the town have a giant orgy but Kris is not invited.
>>741799505He just doesn't want to put the time and effort into it. Writing slop is a lot easier.
Looking back, Gerson's words comes off as a wet fart now, huh
>>741798912The first game had lesbians. Why the fuck are people suprised by this?
>>741799424people had expectations it didn't perfectly meet + the thread is getting flooded with people shitting it up about how bad it is like what happens with literally every new release ever on /v/ (hint: it's mostly the latter)
>>741791183dont bother trying to speak sense to deltatroons
>>741799527Don't comemorate yet, anon. Trust me.
>>741799025In undertale you can find a poorly drawn picture of "three people you don't know", with don't forget written on it. That picture is of Noelle, Susie and Kris, and it's given to Sans during the hometown section.
>>741799315people here will self-insert but also call anime bad, that's crazy
>my turn based RPG turns into a crappy dime store platformerThis is not what I wanted at all.
Anyone got a link to the game to download?
This chapter's shadow crystal hasn't been found yet?
>>741799582Bro, Berdly is right there
Neat, an Illusion of Gaia reference.
Oh well, someone will have to mod the game and fix the writing I guess
Am I crazy for saying Ch5 should have been Ch4 and vice versa?
>>741799602>no mention of the church getting nukedActually the church goes do mention how they found the church completely wrecked when they arrived to set up the haunted house.
>>741798990something will probably happen to him specifically rather than absolutely everything going to shit
>>741799712No
>>741799616Checks out
>>741799424The ending is that the Knight steals Asgore and then Susie says that the Dark World should no longer just be Kris and Susie's thing, but Noelle's also. The Cuckening never ends!
>>741799730Kys faggot
>>741798620I can believe that Madoka and Homura love each other. I can't believe that Susie is in love with the Doe because the writing for it just isn't fucking there
>>741798620The fuck does chud mean. Why should I pass a check about dykes.
anything that makes homestuck OCs seethe must be a good thing
>>741791183I simply don't want the protagonist to be a cuck, is that too much to ask?
>>741799407Because at least in weird route, Noelle does seeks Kris, so it gives you a motiveOther character is Ralsei, and catti and berdly aren't taken as serious
>>741799631>just write your own story, you hecking chud
Bros...
>>741799743So Dess is not shown at all?
>>741791421I'm happy because it means we won't have to see deltatroon spam as much. I hate dykeslop, but today I am on their side. That's how annoying deltatroon shit has become.
>>741799498kinorino why is the rest of the chapter so fucking shit
>>741799186>picWhat? That can't be real, right?
>>741798620The word chud was invented because calling people "homophobic" made you sound like the tourist you are.
>>741799456>>741799527>Toriel doesn't have a sliver of remorse after she let Kris completely unattended until late at night while drunk dancing with some rando>Asgore immediately stops what he is doing the second he realizes his child is harmed, also picrel
>>741799407They did nothing with Berdly this chapter.
>>>>ASGORE>IM NOT YER DADDY, IM YER FAG-PA!!!>IM NOT YER DADDY, IM YER FAG-PA!!!>IM NOT YER DADDY, IM YER FAG-PA!!!
Is it just me or this fucking awful? I remember not liking chapter 3 much but it wasn't nearly this bad
>>741799581At this point I don't know why anyone would be against the Weird Route. It might be creating an incredibly unhealthy relationship between Kris and Noelle but at least he's getting something out of it and giving himself a chance to actually matter, rather than just standing by as the people in his life cuck and ignore him.
>>741799498toby should just hire a real writer to do the dialog for him desu
>>741799801Look in your heart, Berdly x Kris is the right choice.
>Toby keeps hammering home that Kris is not the hero and he will never be one, same as (You). Meanwhile Susie gets to have the girl, gets to sleep in the dark world castle and is loved by EVERYONE>Kris walks all alone looking depressedA little bit too on the nose, Toby.
>>741799868If you had to told me after chapter 2 that Kris X Susie would be nuked from orbit, while Kris X Noelle was still going, I'd have called you a fool.
>>741799648Undyne and Alphys weren't dogshit
ANYTHING ABOUT ABORTED WEIRD ROUTE?? IS THE TWISTED SWORD POSSIBLE OR YOU GET KEKED OF THE SHOP
Haven't touched Deltarune at all but played Undertale: There's literally ugly dykes in the very first fucking game. I am astounded there are a sizeable number of anons genuinely upset that Toby "#1 Homestuck fan" Fox is making woke videogames
>>741799407>ralsei is not real>the game actively prevents a berdly route>noelle and susie are taken by each other>dess is dead>everyone else is either an adult or a one-note side characterwho the fuck is kris going to get with?
Grim
>>741799918Uwaa.... I love him so much.... Toby this chapter may be shit but I love goatdad so I forgive you
>>741799976Pretty much. Noelle is a vile person who treats her childhood best friend like total crap. She deserves everything we do to her and more
>>741799143This could honestly have been the entire chapter and it'd be better off for it.
>>741799852Anons have the opportunity to pull a Snoot Game 2.0 with Deltarune, but that's asking for too much.
>>741799287I want to see their warm, wet, naked bodies pressed against each other.
What happened
>play periodic release fagslop for literal groomed on discord faggots and aging tumblrinas >"wtf what's with the fagslop??"Loving every laugh
>>741799824>>741799912Notice how all other insults glance off the chud, but he recoils at this. "I've been discovered."
>>741799602i don't mind asgore being a schizo and alvin talks about the state of the church and the letter, but otherwise yeah what the actual fuck was toby thinking
>>741800017Bet Ralsei will join their rooms together so they can fuck every night
>>741799836But they aren’t. The only reason it feels cucky is because you allowed it to. The only two ways I see it is either>Boy starts to feel so out of place with even his closest friend that he could relate to>Boy was interested in one of the girls but they only ever saw him as a friend because he never said shitWhere’s the cucking???
>>741800010Catti
>>741800047The whole force of /v/ should be mobilized to achieve this goal
>>741799974I played chapter 4 and 5 back to back and the writing is so much fucking worse in 5 it's unreal
>>741799918Better father than that faggot owl COMFIRMED
Wtf Ralsei is fucking me in the ass
>>741800010>who the fuck is kris going to get with?me
>>741799363>this annoying purple bitch that everyone pretends to likeYou know, something I've always found genuinely curious is how Noelle, and even Kris a good amount of the time, gets a very noticeable hate brigade while Susie gets off completely scot-free, to the point that people just assume that you're shitposting if you point out that the writing clearly nosedives when Susie is the focusThe only takeaway I can get from this is that you can actually totally get away with a genuine mary sue character as long as the audience thinks said character will become the MC's fuckmeat to win at the end, and that distracts them from the actual bad character writing
>>741799912>inventedIt's from a movie that came out in 1984. Even its modern usage is older than fucking 4chan.
so has toby trooned out yet?is he a pretty pretty trans-lesbian now?
>>741800005Nobody fought the secret boss yet.
>>741800126Burgerpants gets her.
>>741798620There's actually some very good yuri fics on ao3 if you can filter out the sea of dogshit.
>>741799407I genuinely would take a berdly routehe cute
>>741800008Undertale had a small dyke scene and it was treated as a joke by most people. Meanwhile we are several chapters in this game and there are way too many yuri scenes with the dumb doe.
So that's it? Noelle's just being shoehorned into the group?
>>741800161The political context is new you disingenuous fag.
>>741800124>He's not a cuck he just has to watch from the cuckchair while his two 'friends' abandon him to makeoutUhuh.
>>741800047>>741800127I genuinely hope we do this, but I know that we won't
>>741800209No that's her sister
Any of you have a good route to get under 8 seconds on the cake cutting minigame? I barely managed to get under 12
where's the egg room
LMAO It feels like an NTR game, but without any H scenes.
>>741793791At this point in the plot Susie was behaving like an oblivious (fe)male love interest, so you could at least wonder if it would be played straight. Although you should've figure out in chapter 4 the answer was: yes, totally straight, unlike those two dykes.
>>741799990I feel the intended message of "It's okay not to be the main character" is a little disingenuous coming from Toby "Most Well-Known Indie Dev Of All Time" Fox.
>>741800148I personally found her to be an unbearable bully turned class clown that isn't funny. I don't understand the appeal of this game clearly.
>woodyfags got a piss colored versionbro one thing I have noticed is that no one has posted berdly.You can't even talk to him?
>lorefans lost>Roaring Knight fans lost>Dess fans lost>Gaster fans lost >Papyrus fans lost>Root fans lost>Krusie and Kriselle fans lost>suselle fans won
>>741800076WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MEAN
>>741800148Badly written characters are hated just look at Orihime
>>741800214post them, fag
If we can be serious for a moment. Do you think Kris essentially having set up Susie and Noelle together, will it lead to anything? Like will he get spiteful or anything if they start shafting him, etc. What do you think?
>>741791421T O T A L C H U D A N N I H I L A T I O NToby is redeemed, rapecucks got btfo
Maybe I just got too old for it. I am nearly 30, this type of jokes and references dont do anything to me, I was just interested in the Twin Peaks esque plot and there was none in it. I feel empty.
>>741799990I actually think this sucks becasue I should be the hero and the coolest person in any video game I play. I don't play games to roleplay as a spectator civilian in a grander story, thats what real life is for.
>>741800297>cucked out of being fully cucked
>>741800047But Deltarune Yellow already exists....
>>741800280To be a cuck you need to be in a relationship. Which one was Kris dating?
>>741800287/v/ cannot develop a anything more complicated than a VN.
So is Flowey in this chapter? He's my favorite character from Undertale.
>YABBA DABBA DOOOO
I told you guys that Susie is just Deltarune's vriska
>>741800368If you're talking about bleach then you're wrong. People love that busty girl in japan
>>741800345He has one joke scene. That's it.
>>741800405Nope, you got sexy tumblrman who is based on Flowey
>>741800345Berdly only shows up for 3 seconds to try and pick you up during the festival. Susie says no cause she's with Noelle. Noelle says no cause she's with Susie. And they both decide no for Kris because....they need a third wheel.
>>741799143Genuinely crazy how much better this is than the main plot.
>>741800010kris will get with no one, after all romance options are cringe, that's why we'll write about how you help other people get together instead of yourself
>yfw the relationship goes nowhere because they both realise they actually don't know shit about each other >yfw it's treated as a joke in later chapter 6With how it was rushed, I can see this happening.
>>741800385if toby was based it would lead to kris having a huge crashout and the tone would shift wildly in chapter 6but toby has proven he's a hack so that won't happen
>>741800368>Badly written characters are hatedunless they're tomboys o algo
>>741798401Fuck.>>741798319>>741798468>>741798486>>741798601Welp. I mean I always knew this was the most likely ending. It still stings but for some reason after getting disappointed by almost any new piece of media, it's kind of freeing. Makes me want to write something to blow it out of the water. It will be hard to create something. But I'm still willing to say to other anons that did enjoy it (Krusie scenes or friendship/comedy scenes with those two) to stick by it like a man and say that they still prefer it, they wanted it to happen, and to also say Suselle sucks shit. Imagine being so deluded like Tobert Fox to think these scenes are interesting or fun when everything with Kris and Susie has chemistry and interest. Man I hope I don't write dogshit and think it's good.I'm not gonna stick around these threads anymore when chaps aren't coming out.It was fun while it lasted.
>>741800405You get a bishounen called Flowery who acts as Ralsei's rival.
>>741800401Oh I see you're a cuck apologist.
>>741800482Yeah, keep that copium up
>>741800148I never liked Susie and continue to not do so, and feel more justified than ever on how shittily she's handled as a characterThe only thing that makes me happy is knowing that in the end she'll definitely get fucked over
>ch6 starts with the soul entering Susie since Kris and Noelle are gone>this will fulfill the “love finds its way to the girl” prophecy >susie is the protagonist now >weird route only continues in ch7 once she finds them
>>741800426>vriskai don't think its that bad yet, unless toby's self insert is noelle.
A P O L O G I Z E
>>741800405No
>>741799940>They did nothing with Berdly this chapter>>741800010>the game actively prevents a berdly routeI'm gonna lose it.
>>741800482It would be funny but I don't trust toby with doing that
>>741800474>proceed>proceedthat is not good writing
>>741791183I never cared for any of the shipping I hear for the lore and story. And it seems chapter 5 is chapter 3 again.
>>741800328>I feel the intended message of "It's okay not to be the main character"He is like 25 years too late with this.
>>741799743"Light to dark" tonal whiplash is fine but 'dark to light' never is. >>741800392Yeah
Pouring one out for the Krusie niggas.
>>741800440Orihime is Noelle and Rukia is Susie everyone hates her
>>741800385Kris is a BETTER MAN, he won't do shit.
>>741800405you got the tumblr man that is in love with your father
>>741800590I mean in terms of tone, I guess.
>>741800293Oh I just realized you’re probably meant to use Susie ACTs
>nobody's even talking about the story implications of the weird route or anything because its so hilariously dogshit that nobody wants to talk about anything else other than how hot ass this chapter is
>>741800010dont forget his mom gets fucked by a skeleton for good measure
>>741799990it sucks not being the chosen one
>>741800564It'll get worse chapter 6
>>741800470>>741800534>>741800585Why do I gotta wait like ten years to see Flowey again? That's the main character in the Undertale demo.
>>741800000
>>741799143is this a sex scene? cause that is how this dialogue is coming across.
>>741800482It's Toby, AnonLet's just stop coping, he'll defend it to the grave like he did with Alphys and Undyne He'll say something like the Holiday house segment was enough for them to know each other
>>741799990Being a random person and not all that important is a narrative that can work but not when you're not even the main focus of the game and you dont even see your POV that often outside of The Boys level teases of 'he's gonna go cuh ray zee now!!!'
if you hook pizzapants up with catty then in chapter 6 bratty molests blue ears and turns him heterosexual
I think I'm gonna go to bedThis chapter was a mistake, I just hope the shitposting continues for a few days so the sour taste gets out of my mouth. Have fun, Anons
>>741799990Lol is this actually what the game is about? Good god, what garbage.
>>741800612My only cope is that once betrays her/abandons her she’ll realize just how important Kris actually is and realize how much she was taking them for granted Of course this is all cope and Toby is a hack so it’s not happening
>>741799143wait, why is it called an aborted route? Do you get this if you fuck up the weird route? What happens if you don't?
>>741799990I don tmind not being the hero of the storyBUT FOR FUCKS SAKE MAN GIVE OUT BOYS SOMETHINGANYTHING AT ALL PLEASEAN UGLY CHICK WILL DO
>>741800564>Noelle was based on Hussie by some schizo fuckery>Hussie always had a thing for VriskaIT ALL MAKES SENSE
>chapter 4 was the breaking in/rape>chapter 5 is noelle literally screaming at you that she wants it harder until your view goes whitehe's not even being subtle about it
>>741800573>Crusader of Israel
>>741799990Game will probably end with Kris walking around Hometown seeing how happy everyone is before dying.
HOLY SHIT SO KRIS TALKING TO THE FLOWERS WASN'T A LARPTHEY'RE ACTUALLY LISTENING
>>741800659We tried in one of the earlier threads (amongst the freak outs) but everyone was so confused it went nowhere.
>>741800296An anon found it last thread
>>741800775toby just announced an 8th chapter (chapter 7 side b), don't worry, there's still another ten years to fix the plot
>>741800482You're coping, man.
>>741800549Is it really copium when it was genuinely rushed?>Neither knows much about the other aside from what they know from others>Everything happens over the course of like four days>The weird personality shift in Chapter 4My guess is they know about (YOU) and they are doing it as a cover to talk about how to get rid of (YOU)
>>741800561The point of ''proceed'' is that allows her to do anything she wants, maybe you can call it bad writing but it makes sense
uhh i like the gameplay gimmick at least
Ive literally played the 15 minutes of contend ch5 weird route has and thats itIm not playing the regular route ever specially after seeing that teddy from persona 4 copycat fuck off
>>741800659There's nothing to talk about the weird route because it lasts 10 minutes at most.
>>741799143>keep saying it
so has anyone found the secret megaboss yet
>>741800370I liked Blood, Teeth and Bones
>>741800659Some people were talking there is a darkworld in the lake and they were actually entering it.
The 8chnigga who wrote that Mall cop screencap must be feeling SO WELL
>>741800896whops mean for >>741800590
>>741800913Holy fuck you're right flowery is just teddie from p4
>>741800896it's supposed to be the emotional climax of a trippy rape allegory, it's retarded
>>741800931that was literally my first thought as well kek
dw guys the next Berserk chapter comes out in 2 days in case you guys want to read an actual competent NTR story
>>741800948Only thing I care about at this point.
:p
>>741796802But enough about Krusiefags...
I'm honestly so tired of NTR in current media lately
>>741801005Are people still mad about the Astral world reveal?
>>741800561>this will fulfill the “love finds its way to the girl” prophecyShe already did that. Remember what LOVE stands for?
>>741801001>trippy rape allegoryhow does rape lead to frozen chicken
>>741801068>Toby should seperate himself from his western audience!!!>Game turns into NTRYep, he went full on eastern
>>741801026cuteonion-san probably watched that damn
yes and no, dataminers found it, and its Mad Mew Mew
>>741801003Would
It seems like dykes and troons really like this chapter... Unfortunately, that's the target audience of this game. It's over. Deltatroon transformation is complete.
>>741791421FPBP
>>741801026Good to still see you here drawbro[THEY ATE MY FUCKING BOY ASRIEL II/spoiler]
>>741798620No such thing exists faggot.
>>741800896Is there an upload of the song from this scene yet?
>>741800824T b h it should always have been femdom from the start, with noelle corrupting you to further corrupt her
wtf is this shit? He was just getting some cake? All that hype, gone.
>>741801102toby has the emotional depth of a robot and just mimics 2010's era tumblr writing
>asgore obsessed with darkworld shit, blames it for "something bad" >he's probably right but all his old notes on it are fucked up>flowery just wants to hang out and keeps misleading him>you go on epic anime sidequests with the flower-people(this is fine)>eventually reach fountain>flowery goes super-saiyan to try and stop kris >titan fight but less cool>you do the undertale attack once>it beats him, asgore infodumps a little bit he killed dess and it's obvious >cool scene where asgore perceives others scorn for him as malformed gaster-blasters>knight kidnaps him, flowery fights the knight, fucking dies>susie now wants to involve noelle and they prepare castle town for her arrival>secret boss is anime brainrot slop weird route is "noelle was fucking with the rape but wait for chapter 7 lmao" toby's washed
>>741800948my bad i forgot to reply you >>741801145
>>741801153They can have itShit like this only fuels me more to make my own game, a game with a revolutionary concept where the male MC gets the girl he aims for
>>741798620Tokomaru, probably the only one I give a shit about, though.
>>741801128>ntr and shitty tumblr dykesCorrectionHe took the worst of both worlds.
>>741800482not likely
>>741801185obvious tease of Chara from the first game was retconned to being 'kris was just being an edgy faggot larping in front of the red heart'
This is the first overall negative reception to a new Deltarune chapter on /v/, right?
>>741800561Gonna bet on>can't get to Ch7 Weird Route until Ch7 Normal Route is complete>Ch7WR final boss is Kris>Ch7WR ending is "Kris gets cucked in both timelines">moral of the story is "lesbians win"
YIIKCHADS WON
>>741791421BasedAs a sex haver above ship shit, I am laffin
>>741800659No, that's the route, you get a message to wait for ch7, aborted weird route happens in ch2 before berdly and ch4 before the couch
>>741801225how did he kill dess
>>741791421Speak for yourself I'm getting EXACTLY what I hoped for
So glad I trusted my instincts and never paid money for this shit.
>>741801225RudyKnight bros, I think we go debunked (he's confirmed incapacitated). The knight really was Dess.
>>741801331>This is the first overall negative reception to a new Deltarune chapter on /v/, right?People here hated chapter 2 till they found Snowgrave, you can even check the archives
>>741801128*easternSure buddy. He's just a western lesbian fetishist
>>741799993Looking back on the discussion of this game back then is something else, so much hope and excitement.
>>741801331ch3 was pretty negative at first but at least it released alongside the plot-heavy ch4
>>741801068Same. This shit actually left me depressed. I thought chapter 4 with the mom being banged wouldn't get any worse.I might just say fuck this and drop Deltarune entirely.
>>741799990but I already played MGS2 and FFT toby you fucking cuck hack
>>741801341No kiddingYIIK just keep getting better and better by comparison
>>741801351fuck me retard mean for >>741800784
Press F for the Krusiefags.
>>741801225No Asgore fight?It's fucking trash.
>>741801368
hahaha what the fuck? Has anyone found this yet or am I the first?
>>741801225>killed DessWas it vehicular in nature?
>>741800328Normally when you want to present a state as being okay you need to provide positives. What positives does Kris have in his life?
>Actually you AREN'T the main character even though you move the plot along. This character is the mc deal with it. Subversions and shitWhat is it with Japanese games (and Toby) being obsessed with this concept?
>Hours before Chapter 5 came out, multiple posts about Kris drowning Noelle popped up>Chapter 5 comes out>Kris drowns Noelle in the Weird Route That motherfucker was lurking and posting spoilers.
>>741801456WTF IS THAT SHIT TOBY
>>741801331I remember people not liking 3 much till they found the cool hidden stuff too. Weird route content seems like the only content /v/ really likes (besides shipper wars I guess)
>>741801234At this rate you could start today and have a full game finished by the time Chapter 7 comes out
>>741801456F. It was a good run
>>741801495me and my gf in the tang filled pool
>>741798109Not only is the the start of the chapter heavily leaning into it being Susie and Noelles date, the storyprgressions cenes also push it AND the first Enemies in the Dark world are about flirting, which makes Susie awkward because "She kinda has a thing with noelle now, is it okay to flirt?!"Weird/Snowgrave has it the other way around where youw alka round town with Susie and while Susie had fun she missed Kris, and Noelle very obviously thinking about Kris/(You) the whole time. BUT that route is also cucking the player out of getting to go to the Dark World AND seemingly the next Chapter by skipping to Chapter 7.
>>741799976AT LEAST THE WEIRD ROUTE IS FUCKING INTERESTING..God damn, the normal route is so disgustingly trite that I might actually die from a brain aneurysm before clearing it.
>>741801495Reminds me of that one reaction image with the sink.
>>741798642>Noelle pointing at wingsOh, oh no
>>741801519did you miss the ARG
>Noelle loves creepypastas>probably read ben drowned and loved it so much she wanted to replicateWOOOWAlso Kris and Noelle as ben drowned when
>>741801456>Let's involve Noelle now because she's my GF
>>741799498I literally shouted KINO KINO as I mashed the proceed commandNever touching normal route
For Men's Mental Health Awareness Month we have:>Gooseworx humiliating Jax>Toby humiliating Kris>VivziePop confirming Adam and Abel are heterosexual and not faggotsReturn to biologically female creators, Western Man.
>>741801443wait, so im doing the weird route in ch4 right now, do I literally not get anything? I'm confuseddoes the game treat it as if I fucked up and I have to wait two years for it to correct itself in ch7?
>>741801456It's subtle symbolizing of your partner wanting to get into a poly relatiobship.
>>741791183remember when BIG SHOT came out and everyone thought every chapter would be as ludokino as that? did he develop dementia since then?
>>741799376>Sans Mii costumeNigger there's no way Toby doesn't have a full-on character slot saved for one of his guys.
>>741801495>Kriselle boiling in a lake of shit
>>741801456IM SO FUCKING SICK AND TIRED OF SUSELLEWhat was toby THINKING
>>741801225Why did he kill Dess again?
>>741801456>this shit is too dangerous Kris…>let’s invite my girlfriend who’s a weakling! Same bitch who didn’t take Berdly to the dark world to repair his burnt arm
>>741801621>subtle
>>741801495
>>741801636>remember when BIG SHOT came outhow I fucking miss the KromerKing...
>>741801620So far that's it, you have to wait for ch7 to continue the weird routeUnless people find something else, chapter still new after all
>>741801396Anybody found the secret boss fight yet? I'm pretty sure someone found the egg due to getting rid of the wheat untill a balloon appeared, but no hints on secret boss
>>741800931lol
>>7418013312 was shit on at first. 3 was shit on in general outside of the Knight fight.
Genocide Route is now canonically the best ending for Undertale btw
>>741801456>literally advocates for an open relationshipGenuinely this is like 8 9/11s in a row for Krusiefags holy shit lmao
>>741801620Yes. Weird route breaks the storyline. It's like a bad end, like when you join the bad guy halfway through a game and get a game over.
>>741801636He peaked, everybody peaks. Some just dont understand when they do.
>>741801636Toby was never a good writer. He's only a good musician that uses music to amplify scenes.
stop yelling about the lesbians and tell me about the schizo boss
>>741800482you cant 'undo' a LGBT relationship. thats internet suicide
>>741801516>What is it with Japanese games (and Toby) being obsessed with this concept?NTR fetish
>>741801636Yeah, Toby is elderly now. His brain is rotting
>>741801456>People here complain about wanting the classmates to be party members again>Get mad when one part of that finally happensI don't get it
>>741799743>chapter 5 after the slog that was chapter 3I would have dropped the game there. Hell, I'm dropping the game. I'm tired, there's no lore or secret or anything it's just shallow lesbian porn. Undertale was a perfectly imperfect game and after chapter 5 I'm sure Deltarune won't live to the expectations.
>>741797849Thats not really the issueBut why were there so many krusie moments in ch3 and 4Why did Toby include all that?He is torturing the chuds
>>741801636chapter 2 was extremely kino to the point that everything after it was a fucking disappointment. At least that fanmade "FRIEND INSIDE ME" got the right idea.
>>741801495>tobry trying to ape evangelion with tang/rust colored waterbaka
>chapter so shit nobody even gives a fuck about finding the schizobossGrim.
>>741799143We will make Noelle suck our dick and eat our shit
>>741801362>>741801508they're extremely vague about it. basically nothing gets resolved this chappy.asgore thinks she died because of the dark world, and he's probably right but he also blames himself and didn't know the dark world existed until he fell into one. kris opened this one while he was in the shop btw. kojima-level hackjob.
>>741801741>toby as mario taking a piss on kris
>>741801547Cannot fucking believe we got cucked out of a kino Weird Route Noelle date at the festival, ending with the scene that's actually in the chapter.Absolute bullshit, Chapter 5 Weird Route was supposed to be nearly as big as Chapter 2's.Toby is a lying hack fraud.
>>741801779She’s literally giving Noelle special treatment cuz she’s her heckin girlfriend
>Catti is fully resigned to being a fat gagshit character
>>741801456Oh I can see it now. Chapter 6 is absolutely gonna be the fucking>first friend/party member is slowly being pushed out by the new arrival and is essentially forced to go solo/become evil story arc bullshit
>>741801783Game's not finished yet. Maybe Noelle fucking dies in chapter 7 or something. She's not in the prophecy so she can't stick around.
>>741801754it's Mad Mew Mew
>>741801185actually what this thread feels like lmao
>Ace attorney moment>Date music from UT start playing because it's a ace attorney ripofff BASED
>>741800523Godspeed anonLets take the future into our our handsFuck all these shit writers
So. Let's have that uncomfortable talk already.Who's up to pulling a Snoot Game for Deltarune? I think this chapter has well earned the rights to do so.
>>741801636Spamtonfags weren't lying when they said that
>>741801456Polycule ending here we go
>>741801456Yeah I'm never touching this garbage again.
So essentially, Susie already made the decision to bring Noelle into the fold behind Kris' back. Thus COMPLETELY FUCKING WITH THE PROPHESY!
>>741801618APOLOGIZE
>this was supposed to be a breather chapter
>>741800780A sad fate. But...we have much more soulful art and comedy than whatever gay shit Suselle conjures up. We have won bigly for years.
>>741801827hopefully this will at least cause all the shipperfags to fuck off and chapter 6 & 7 will have actual discussion of the game
>>741801869you mean ralsei will go evil?
>>741801916Um, yeah, nnnnnnnno.
>>741799602This game is really going nowhere. I don't think I want to keep playing.
>>741801456get fucked tumblr faggots HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOUR CARTOON DINOSAUR DOESNT LIKE YOU GONNA CRY?
>>741801916Her new project has a shortstack Dino witch
Weird route does seem to subvert the prophecy. It skips the entire flower king thing.
>>741801005Who's the cuck, Guts or Griffith? You could argue it's both of them.
>>741801618>VivziePop actually being redeemed2026 has been a really weird year man
>>741801942At least we can all agree that Noelle banging Susie is way better than Noelle banging Berdly.
>>741801889Snoot worked because the GVH company went bankrupt.Something very bad has to happen to Toby for it to be worth it.
>>741801916my heart still belongs to pilot charlie
>>741801889current /v/ can barely organize itself for shit like light trolling, it'll never be able to make something like Snoot Game ever again.
>>741799461NTR game
>>741801862>Chapter 5 Weird Route was supposed to be nearly as big as Chapter 2's.you'll get to see it in chapter 7 :^)
>>741801185when DR is done people will laugh at all the toby fox-isms and they will be made fun of in future indie games>>741801889I feel the same way
>>741801584Who's the KINGKONG in this equation?
I've actually never been able to goon to a Deltarune character.
>>741802102at least that mario thread recently was bredy gud
>susie goes from the favorite to the least favorite Bravo Toby
Man this game seems to be NTR to the core>normal route Kris is a cameraman third wheel>susie wants to bring her weak doe gf to the darkie world.>She is too weak so she dies[inb4 she gets a powerup for no reason and end as normal ending]>since she is too fucking weak Kris decides to do weird route>he makes her strong but cucks susie instead>no dino pussy for kris unless there is a third secret route
>>741802039both, the latest chapter basically said guts and griffith are the same and casca dreams about Guts in his prime but sees him as a demon the last time they met(exactly like when she admitted to herself she wanted to fuck griffith only AFTER he got tortured into being an unfuckable monster).everyone's a cuck and everyone gets raped. that's berserk.
>>741800561Dumbass.Kris and Noelle entered the Lakebed darkworld.A darkworld which encompasses both the sewers and the shelter.We will travel from the lake, through the pipes, and into the shelter.Bypassing the door code.We will prematurely confront whatever is in the shelter with Noelle by our side.
>yfw didn't fell for the Deltacuck trap
>>741801889>he thinks the people seething about this chapter are creatively capable
>>741802161It just makes zero sense for susie to like noelle so easily and readilyIt took Kris a lot to get her to open up
>>741802024>xitter filenamehello tranny, you will never be a woman.
>>741801916>Amazon continuously throws money at her because she's carrying their platform and gives them a huge recognizable IP, greenlighting five seasons only after two>They also greenlight her secondary show>She has an animated movie in the works with Warner Bros.>She confirms two fan favorite characters to be straight during Pride Month>Hussie begged her to make an animated Homestuck Pilot >Gooseworx's final episode sucked and he'll be irrelevant soon enough>Toby's good will is slowly and slowly diminishing I kneel so unbelievably hard.
>>741801869That would be kino but Toby is determined to make a teenage adventure story about a gang of plucky heroes and not something dark and grim like this
Aside from the weird route being 10 minutes long... this chapter is a giant nothing burger. This formula of "plot at the beginning and the end of the chapter with 5 hours of filler in between" is getting really stale now that the characters and the world have been fiemly established and explored. There is no novelty anymore and it's not le wacky Xddd random charcters who are saving this game from being a snoozefest.
>>741802192
I regret marrying noelle in tomodachi life now.
>>741801964>Ralsei goes evil>becomes God Of Hypercucking
>>741799403I picked Loved, it, but only specifically Snowgrave, which i did first and i'll like that no matter how shit the Main Route ends up being, Main route? Not really, the Suselle is overdone and i wasn't annoyed by it before and did expect it.
>>741802221Well you see chud, Noelle gave her a pencil once she moved into town. That made her fall in love and never bully her
>>741802161Susie was only liked by anyone because of delulu faggots believing she was gonna be in a cute romance with the main character and not the obviously teased lesbo shit
>>741802178>Man this game seems to be NTR to the coreWhat else did you expect from the King of Ero Games? Toby should stop limiting himself to SFW games and finally make a full-fledged NTR H-game
Caught me off guard ngl.
>>741802201Nta, but I didn't know not wanting to eat dogshit was "seething"
>>741802201The irony of this post lmfao
>>741802247I wish I had the delusion capabilities of culture warriors
>>741802285if tobias hackfraud actually gave us plot-focused chapters the game would literally just be 2 and a half chapters long.
>>741802192tumblrtale chunkers deserve it
>>741802221Toby just can't actually write relationships or people very well. Undertale was carried by the plot being entirely circumstance driven, he's good at circumstance. He could be a sitcom writer, but his soap opera fucking blows.
>>741802221Kris opened her up for Noelle
Isn't confirming a ship this early always bad
>>741801456>Gaster the architect: Now originally Kris was the chosen one to host the soul, but hosting is a full-time commitment and he's been a little distracted lately...>...*stares at Susie and Noelle*>See what I'm talking about?>That's why I brought in Jevil and Spamton.>turns to Kris>Because you my FRIEND, are completely PUSSYWHIPPED.>OOHHHH!!!! WHIPUSHHH!!!!>*kicks trashcan*
>>741802378Nta, but things are changing. My local gym stopped letting trannies enter the womens locker room and spa
>>741800482Dude, I am not fucking coping anymore. My tank burst the moment Kris entered the fucking castle town. I am done
>>741801827It's very difficult. You have to find 10 optional hidden items.
>>741799602Good summaryThis shit....is so ass
Both of these cunts wish Kris was never around kek
>>741802285Do you really expect 5 hours of plot after plot reveals that'd just get boring
Only solution is Kris going full Eridan and trying to kill everyone to please the Knight
>>741801959Unc meme, toby is washed
>>741801618The Jax thing is entirely your fault for thinking that writer in particular was ever intending him to be a 'based foid destroyer' played straight and depicted positively.
>>741802361Holy cringe
>>7418013312 was disliked until snowgrave was discovered 3 is kinda meh but it came with 4 so people didn't mind it
>>741802469Is Toby secretly based and making Susie and Noelle detestable so that Kris splits off and goes rogue on some Billy Butcher shit?
>>741802365r34 when
>>741802473I expected something that's not undertale-lite for the fifth time. This game should have been shorter..
Guys I think I want to play as Berdly nowKrisKuck is a disgrace
>>741801916Pigsypop... I kneel...
>>741801456throuple cope-le for two years
>>741802473>Do you really expect good writingAh shit my bad G
>>741802486Adulthood made me realize that Eridan wasn't in the wrong Maybe Kris isn't either
>kris is le cuck>not in a romantic relationship with either girlExplain the cuck accusations
>>741802502If only Viv wrote the character...
>>741799461It's NTRkino for both sides
>>741802486Kris going full eridan could be kino
>>741791421This, so much this.Lets hope this is the beginning of the downfall of hmofaggotry
>>741802337>The AsriBULL
I divided the negative reviews of chapter 3+4 and chapter 5 with the entire review number and surprise surprise, chapter 5 is already more disliked than 3+4. Toby messed up
>>741802382Which wouldn't have been a bad thing.
>>741802610It was teased that he was gonna enter a relationship with Susie (blush scene in Chapter 3)
>>741802574Berdly had genuine potential I feel like he got shafted the worst of anyone
>>741802552>>741802469Ok this type of shit where it's the bogstandard romantically clueless shonen protag shit makes me believe that this is doomed to fail. This nigga can't possibly think this shit is enough? Like seriously? We've seen it a thousand times. Holy fuck I fucking hate this shit. But it really is Toby being a dumb bastard. Fuck.
>>741801519it's the other way around, Noelle drowns KrisI was expecting it to just end but at least there's a ch7 continuation
>I was denied KrusieTOBY, YOU SHALL PAY FOR THISI SHALL HAVE VENGEANCE
>>741802610cuck fetishists are self-inserters and ignores characters.>>741802648>(you) forced this on themSOUL is a groomer. glad that kris course corrected.
>>741802623I felt so justified seeing Normal Route then hopping to WR
>>741802634Thank you for the reminder to leave a negative review
>>741799461>So it's a NTR chapter?Yeah. This is an NTR game, but without any sex scenes.
>lesbian shit was everyone's least favorite part of UT>makes DR all about that
>>741802623>IT WAS LE MISUNDERSTANDING? WE THOUGHT EACH OTHER WERE INTO KRIS BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY INTO EACHOTHER AND WE DIDN'T KNOW IT?!?Ugh.
>>741802634>0.002 differenceI mean I'll see how it shakes out in the long run but I don't think Toby's losing sleep
>found the hidden bosslets go boys
>>741802247Fun fact, you can be an indie dev and literally have zero fags in your IP.
>>741801889Been involved with the CTR decomp and customs stuff if it takes your fancy to have a shot at it. Got beta 5 of a pc port recently.
>>741802623This is extremely justified when you see how Kris is treated by Susie and Noelle in the normal route. Fuck both of these vile pieces of shit. This is a PLAYER WORLD ORDER
>>741802732no wonder the fanbase is going ballistic. its hitting too close to home for these guys.
>>741802742Toby is driven by spite and Chapter 5 as a whole was proof on how he handled current memes like Noelle in a cuck chairSeriously, look>>741802732
>>741801225Did get to do something cool? Please tell me he got to be cool.
>>741802626ASRIBULL KEKURR... OH MY GOD... I GET IT...
>>741802473>you're really expecting the game's plot to... ADVANCE? No way! That'd be so boring! Retarded or merely pretending?
>>741802797>oregano is smokedthank you ralsei for knowledge I would have never bothered to learn otherwise don't smoke it you little shit
>>741802102I'd have said the same thing around when Snoot game materialized.
Kressfags won
>>741802732This one image encapsulates the entire game. You, the main character, passed out and doing nothing while side character girlboss does literally everything
>>741802469>can't even mention that kris is good at something without noelle getting jealous
>>741802610>Explain the cuck accusationsDidn't you notice that Kris looked like shit while they were openly flirting right in front of him?
>>741802845He stopped everything to help Kris but later went back to being a tra-la-la fag
>>74179872332 petty rage-cuck fueled reviews vs 2kSure, chuddy. Way to show em wokelibtards!
>>741802814Roxy and Glam Chica lick eachother but that's to entertain shotas so it's based
>Toby came up with the Susie resting her chin on your head thing100% some rewrite bullshit went down these last few years. No shot this was the original plan back in 2018. What do you guys think happened?
>>741802914>my-reaction-when-future-trunks-appeared-and-easily-slicedKEKKAROOOO
>>741802818>Fang in CTRBasedbasedbased
everyone else seems to love it, only /v/ has anything bad to say about the chapter
>made the gay dad officially a flaming faggot in a gay relationship that is going to turn off a lot of his casual fanbase, especially in japan
This honestly feels like a vivid fever dream, It's so shit it's unreal. It's like if I tried to make the worst possible version of ch5. Someone please wake me up.
>>741802979It was referring to Noelle obviously
>>741802979Dementia
>>741802843I do feel like the way the weird route just cuts to a teaser and blueballs you had some spite to it. Like he's mad people are enjoying the thing he himself made
>Ralsei is really chatty but only when Kris isn't around Does Kris just make literally everyone uncomfortable?
>no player child, you can not get the tomboy girl>OR the friendly girl from next door>enjoy the cuck chair, player child
>>741802469this shit makes me so sad man, kris had this one friend and then they immediately get sidelined by their cunt neighbor that always saw them as a nuisance than anything. i feel sick
>>741803032That's not anatomically possible without Susie impaling herself on the horns.
So what happens in the regular ending for this chapter?
>>741803054Kris is the average /v/ smelly retard virgin so yes.
>>741802979Andrew Hussie syndrome.He wants the plot to be unpredictable and it's ruining it.
>>741802552Kris immediately tosses his heart into the trash after their scene, I think it's intentional.
>>741803086Noelle gets blacked
>>741803008>everyone elseDykes and troons?
>>741801456Shipping shit aside, didn't Kris lied to Noelle about the dark worlds in wr because he wanted to protect her, this feels a setting for a disaster
>>741801554This is why Weird Route takers are the ones who ACTUALLY got Noelle, because they ARE Noelles.The way the drowning Route Abort is and how it is emphases "Noelle must do Noelle things" whilst snapping to after the date also honestly REALLY puts how "happy" it actually is under question.
>>741803054It's not KrisIt's (you)Toby hates the player and made a world where when you try to behave like a main character, you get punished.
>>741798763if you like clever writing, sureif you cant go beyond reading words, no
>Krusie fags are do delusional thay they are shocked the very obvious story teligraphed throughout the game written by a notorious touhou/yuri fag How do you even become this delusional?
>>741803115>He wants the plot to be unpredictable and it's ruining it.It is so fucking tiresome with writers these days always going for that shit. 100% induced by social media garbage because they love reading and disproving fan theories.
>>741803145incel route
>>741803197Elliot Rodger RouteWe are the supreme gentleman
>>741802896>>741802732At least make susie the main playable character
>>741801636he really did peak with spamton
>>741803012It really is. This wasn't what I expected when Tobert said this was a fever dream...
So did this lil' nigga show up
>yfw Chapter 6 starts with Kris looking for Susie and Noelle, only for him to stumble across a new Dark Foundation >yfw he gets dragged in and finds out that Susie and Noelle have essentially already cleared it up to the fountain >yfw they give some hand wavy excuse as to why they didn't get KrisUnironically, how mad would you be?
So, Kris made the ch1 and ch2 dark world no, he was so fast to make one
>Kris leaves>Goes to a human country>Monster country gets raped and eaten by the dark world reckoning
I really hate Flowery
>Finally everyone crashing out on the game when i was in the mines trying to convince you all the game was destined to crash and burn a year agoI hate you all. i was right. I knew it. None of you retards listened to the thread schizos. Now look what's happened.
>>741803291sorry, only gay and lesbian content in ch5
>>741803010I think most of his fanbase are faggots or troons here an in Japan/v/ just wanted to fuck the girls and we got denied hard
this is so depressing
>>741803302>Foundationlmao, but also it's pretty much confirmed that Kris and the Knight are making fountains in an specific order because he made flower king, so it's unlikely
>>741803337I also knew chapter 5 was going to suck dick
>>741803291He's forever relegated to vaguepost king type shit like all the actual cool parts of this game
>>741803370Half nip anon here. I told you fags the base is just "westaboo" types there
>>741803337we wanted to hope and dreamThe game has a lot of good stuff in it that isnt the romance writing
>>741803067>i feel sickYeah. It's the same feeling in your stomach, just like when you're playing some NTR game.
>>741803382more like hilarious.
>>741803431I was led to believe all of japan loved the game and they made toby fox statues inside their shinto shrines
>>741803291pipis... hatch...
>>741802469weird route is fucking justified after this constant shit jesus christ
Kris unironically has a worse life than Guts because at least Casca didn't voluntarily fuck Griffith lmao
This is the most fun meltdown since attack on titan ended
>>741803168There's an abort in this one?How do?
>>741803565I can't think of a more annoying fanbase that deserves it.
>>741803440>The game has a lot of good stuff in itUnironically all of the good stuff deltarune has was done a thousand times better 20 years ago by David Lynch
>>741803552In retrospect, it went all fucking wrong in Chapter 4. Chapter 3 was still good.
i dont have a snowgrave save, should i download a save to play it or just watch it on youtube? how short is it?
>>741803518The youth actually liked undertale. But to be fair the jp script is kind of different. It's a case where a company made it more appealing to the jap market. He actually has control of what goes into deltarune and stalls to oversee the script. In turn it's mostly westaboo types.
With how Krusiefags were posting Noelle cuck memes only to get put in the chair themselves lmfao. Even if I don’t care about Susielle that much, you can’t say they didn’t have it coming, especially with the blatant shit warning you guys back in ch4.>>741803302The way I would just laugh kek it doesn’t seem like it’s possible though all things considered with Rudy. I wonder if Noelle will end up creating the dark world for him after Susie tells her everything.
>>741802626>ASRIBULL, GOD OF HYPERKEK>"Kris, it's me!">"Your best bull!"
>no friend>no gaster>no papyrus>no asriel>no kino schizoboss, it's just mew mew nachos reheated again>no knight >no loredump except asgore vagueposting>no flowey, just some unbearable fag>no souls, same as above>no weird route Anything else I'm missing
>>741802732Holy fuck, Kris, bro... Suicide is an option.
How are we coping bros?
Between the rose change and the "gross" email replies to what we got, what are the chances Toby got spiteful?
>make your only interesting plotline abruptly end with a drowning suicide, must wait 2 chapters to continue itEither toby ran out of things to do with the snowgrave route or it will be some afterlife schizo kino when it does come back in chapter 7.
>>741803635the actual fanbase loves it though
>>741803565>Edgy main character possessed with a godlike power wants to destroy the world with a dead girl>He starts crying because his tomboy best friend is gonna fuck someone else>obligatory twink third male character>The apocalypse is called the Rumbl- I mean the Roaring>Monsters known as TITANS will destroy the worldHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TOBY FOX KNEELS TO ISAYAMA-SAMA
This game is GAY
>>741803692ROOTS
>>741799976>weird route is the adachi fag route
>>741800931Thank you!
>>74180372495%
>>741798862What does that area look like again can you attach a screenshot I started balding at 19
>>741803151But I don't like it either?
>>741803656It's like 10 minutes, you dont even get flavor text for anything
I never played Chapters 3 & 4, is Ch5 Weird Route being a 5 minute cutscene ending with "insert Chapter 7 Side B" good writing?
>credits sequence is all about getting castle town ready for Noelle to join inJesus. The cuck energy is incredibly.
>>741803705I hope I got hit by a truck or something and that this is all part of my coma induced dream
>>741800475>'People' actually think this.
Has anyone checked if aborted weird route changes the chapter?
>>741803724He's an old school tumblrite so that's a given. Probably seething that his "serious corruption story" got reduced to le funny rape jokes
I LOVE LESBIANSMORE THAN ANYONESO WHY DON'T LESBIANS LOVE ME
>>741803565Almost as funny as when a male Pretty Cure was added. /a/ was a real riot that day
Toby... all you had to do was do the thing and don't fuck it up and it would've just worked.
>>741801068Isn't Kris the bull in this scenario? Wouldn't you being cucking Susie?
>post yfw you said in the threads last year that suselle will happen and the game will descend into yurishit girlboss slop and turned out to be right
Prediction:Dess died by falling down the stairs into the Dark World. Coincidentally right after Kris pushed her, which was totally unrelated.
>>741803610Just fail the water crossing, get get a schizo narration scene (That i think flashed between both Normal Scenes and the Weird rote scenes on the screen) where Noelle talks how she thought Kris had Changed, but she was wrong and then "Noelle must do Noelle things", you then snap to Kris being woken up by Susie some "WEIRD ROUTE HUH?!" Babble and a sequence where Kris falls over (that is repeatable with new dialogue), go to the Floweshop where, Susie walks in and things then go into Normal Path in teh dark world, might ahev some alterations since after that i reloaded because i realized i muyst been too slow on the last couple of inputs and failed and then got the "Proper" Ending.
>>741803724considering he's still actively maulding about shit like people preferring black ralsei in-game and the entire mike thing, yeah he's spiteful as fuck and it's tainting his vision hard
>>741803981>toby can't enjoy a good rape
>Get to what seems like it could be be an interesting fight>it's actually just a gimmick fight and ends after 1-2 rounds for a shitty joke
>>741802958Fucking hell man. At least he showed he cares about his son. It’s not much but I’ll take it.
>>741803968https://youtu.be/0n9sNKBMEPM?si=Yykp1-phAr_oCrts Noelle seems happy only on the surface, part of her seems aware there's some meta fuckery going on that makes them all act in some way
>>741804060lmao
>>741804108Legitimately convinced he just reads and copies /v/. Like that 'leak' image that predicted the chapters was probably made and posted by himself. His job is to piss us off by any means necessary.
>>741801401Ntr is eastern
>>741803637yeah but it didnt have furry girls
Now that SusieXKris is dead. How will people cope when Dess never appears either and is just an abandoned plot thread? She's just some chick who died and Asgore felt bad.
>The game ends in 4-5 hours and the SOUL reveal still hasn't happened yet and Gaster is nowhere to be seen
>born just in time to witness Toby crash and burn with spiteNice inferno garden of jealousy or whatever, you yuricuck
>tfw Toby is a spiteful manlet that still sounds like a 14 year old despite being a middle aged man
>>741803891It is bad writing right now because it means we only got a 5 minute cut-scene and NO GAMEPLAY, it will be good writing in 5 years when people evaluate it all the chapters toghether and say that it avoiding the dogshit that is Chapter 5 (And probably Chapter 6) is a good thing.Assuming it sticks the landing.
>>741803742The difference in AoT is that tomboy tried to fuck him first and he rejected her, only to change his mind. That's why him freaking out is so pathetic.
>>741804273>implying it will ever endlol, there will be 30 chapters
>>741804237Alas this is true.
>>741801456This is a subtle reference to your childhood friend getting the barest crumb of pussy and then dragging his girlfriend to EVERY SINGLE BOY'S NIGHT FOREVER.
>>741804224Not really. It's falling way out of favor. The attack on titan fag regrets it and wishes he didn't get into the fetish. He said he would like to try the ending again if given the chance.
>>741804324What's more pathetic, getting upset that your tomboy didnt fuck you because you were pre-occupied with massacring the entire planet, or getting upset that your tomboy didnt fuck you because you're an edgy faggot with no capacity to open your mouth and say 'I like you'?
>>741801456I hate susie nowWay to assasinate her character fuck
>>741804273>he doesn't know
>>741804428It's pathetic because she actively tried to get with him. It's not an issue of being preoccupied, or both being too passive to make an attempt and just missing each other, she tried, he knew she was trying, and he didn't want it until later he changed his mind and got upset she moved on. It's a different situation.
>>741802486Oh fuck yea that would be awesome... problem is, Toby, he isn't going to ever do something even remotely as based as this.
>>741804463If you were of an above average IQ you'd see that it was always going to lead to this. i legitimately thought I was in psychosis when Chapters 3 and 4 came out and nobody raised a single question about the Susie girlboss arc. Turns out the population is just retarded except for me and a few other schizos.
>>741804239I'm 100% sure that's going to be the case. Dess is just a random character who died, Asriel is a never ever, and the Knight is going to be something gay like Noelle's inner doubts and darkness manifesting itself.
>>741803429>I correctly predicted FRIEND would go the way of Mike>Everyone kicked and screamedWell well well
>>741804478yoooo they got the genshin impact writers to work on this
>>741804051Anybody that was paying attention since ch1 saw this coming, it was only shipperfags and dinopussy addicts that thought otherwise
>>741804478Wait a minute... THIS IS JUST HOMESTUCK ALL OVER AGAIN
>>741804531I knew it was going to lead to this but it can lead to this with good writing that doesnt contradict the susie from the older chapters
>>741804165Wasn't one of the gaster toby tweet ''where dream meets reality''?
>>741803676>Feltarune
>>741804545>underage
i think i prefer the fucking togore comics over this so far
>>741798763Some anons will seem reasonable by telling you to read up to chapter 5, before dropping it. I'm telling you, only if you're a gay and stereotypically shallow tumblrtard, go on and read it from start to finish. Just know that belonging to what's left of its fandom is not worth it, and the fanart/r34/cosplaying sluts are some of the worst I've seen out of any fandom ever.
>>741802469How does this read as both? This reads like Susie likes Kris enough.
>>741804531big difference between "susie grows to like noelle over the course of the game and they get together in the ending" and "susie magically likes noelle because of a pencil"
>>741791183Am I just getting too old for this shit or does every chapter since 2 keep getting gradually worse? I cant believe I spent money on this fucking tumblr shit garbage.
>>741804334Chapter 6 Part 6 Component 6: The Gasterening: Bonus Chapter 6 Part 6
>>741798763honestly yes
>>741804478Jokes aside, imagine if at Chatper 7 Toby really just went "ok lol that's it for side A, now side B!" and just kept going.
You guys are fucking gay and i'm glad you're all mad lmao
>>7418046743 > 2 > 4 > 1 > Undetale > Undertale Yellow > 5
Where do i use the pink key?
>>741804478Needs "Chapter 7 Side B" added
>>741804674Yeah it's getting worse. Toby is going to phone in the rest because he got his cash with Chapter 3+4, and he got burnt out having to rewrite half the shit for the new version of gamemaker to get those to chapters out the door.
>>741804323>it will be good writinghe's back loading the entire plot into the last 2-3 chapters, it will not be praised for the horrible pacing. it's also been out for almost a decade so it's likely people already figured out the ending anyway
>>741803291>>741801506
>>741804674this is what happens when you decide to slowly release your game in episodes over the course of 10 yearsinstead of being able to spread the passion out it all goes to the first couple parts and then you're sick of it by the time the end draws close
