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Well that was a load of shit
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>>741909474
The flower man is right there, right in front of Asgore.
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>>741909559
this was a god tier misdirect i don't think a single person even considered it
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>>741909658
I think the humanfag did actually
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>>741909687
Humangods are the smartest Undertale/Deltarune fans.
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>>741909559
Every time someone calls Flowery Flower Man i start to ask myself whats wrong with them
Flowerman is clearly Asgore, there is whole fucking song about flowers wanting to help the Flower man
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>>741910153
yeah and he's trapped in asylum because the flowers are literally trying to keep him there, people are really dumb
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>>741910153
>>741910280
Probably because the theme of his battle is literally Flower Man and talks about him being in a glass cage.
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>>741910391
Read this
>Wish that bothers the Flower Man
>Could I do something to make him laugh
>Inside my little chamber made of glass
Its clear that person speaking or (Lyrical subject if we are being specific) is the one in the glass chamber, its the flower talking about wanting to help Flower Man from under its glass dome
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>>741910853
The wish bothers Flowery, and that wish is to make the Flower King laugh. The song himself mentions he's trapped like the prophecy says. That's why he's theme is Flower Man while Asgore’s is Flower King.
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>>741910153
Flower Man's lyrics intentionally bounce between Flowery and Asgore as the role of the Flower Man.
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keeping this thread up to be used later
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>>741909474
wtf is the boss 1 a car?
what
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>>741914302
it's referencing Queen, this scene specifically
>the queen's chariot cannot be stopped
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>Beat Chapter 7 Side B
>Start over a new file at Chapter 1
>Noelle acts completely differently
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Reminder: Flowery represents Rudy
>Same closed eye smile
>Asgore's old college buddy
>Wants to do anything to make the people around him happy at any cost
>Winds up broken and dying in a way that can't be fully fixed
>An idealized foil to the real Rudy who is the Knight
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>>741915139
Based Rudyknightchad still believing.
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>>741915139
Yeah I'm really surprised we're like the only two people have picked up on this.
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>>741915139
>anime chapter litteraly has villain fighting its good clone
Cant get better than this
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>>741915139
Same exact haircut too just not balding and same outfit just anime
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Still surprised the Inferno of Jealousy was actually Ralsei.

Though it's hard to call it an inferno when he just created a TINY bit of fire...
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>>741915139
>>741915262
I was 100% a Rudy knight denier before chapter 5 but that may be changing
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>>741909532
i hope that the knight switches sides, even if it's just because i love the "bad guy teams up with good guys to defeat badder guy" trope in all its forms
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>>741910153
are you people really so challenged that the most obvious double meaning on earth is too much for you?
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>>741915450
Same. Probably the best trope ever made
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>Since Dess left...
left
She left
She didn't disappear
She isn't missing
She literally just left
bravo toby
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>>741915401
I also predicted it was going to be Ralsei but I expected him to actually use his fire magic in a more offensive way.
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>>741915139
>Inside my little chamber made of glass
>So he stands to watch the whole wide world from a can
Flowery wanting to help from his glass enclosure / Rudy wanting to help in the knight's shadow like-glass armor
Kino
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What went wrong? Seems actually concerning to change your plan this much and late into development
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>>741915638
It's clearly just an euphemism. There's a lot to complain about chapter 5 but you're fucking reaching.
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>>741915756
There was no whiplash, it's just that fucking nothing happened.
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Post images from Chapter 5 that would have mindbroken the average Deltarune fan if you showed it to them a week ago
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>>741915709
I was worried Ralsei would accidentally burn down the dark world.

>>741915638
>>741915761
Her running away and getting into trouble is also a completely valid reading of this scene imo.
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>>741909474
INFERNO BTW
BRAVO TOBY YOU REALLY TRICKED ME INTO THINKING SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN
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>>741910153
It works as both, that's why it flows into eachother
>ten feet twenty
clearly about looking up to asgore
>waiting for the touch of his hand
clearly about flowery waiting for asgore each day
>heart in the sand, so he stands to watch the whole wide world from a can
both of them, asgore's can being his shop and flowery's being in a 'can' (again his enclosure)
in fact you could easily say that even chamber of glass is about asgore too being trapped.
It's symbolism. Both are trapped in different kinds of asylum
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>>741915739
I want to believe Toby somehow was based enough to draw all these parallels even when the rest of 5 was ass
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susiebros.. is it truly over? Why the FUCK is toby giving me options still that insinuate that I wanna be with her still (which i picked of course)
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>>741915638
Dess wasn't the lost girl. It was Noelle who lost Dess.
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>>741915739

>fallen to pieces without a plan
>the hope that powered the flower man would never cower of its path
>even if broken i am more than glass
Rudy...
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3 months until new words from Toby
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>>741916058
Seems to be some sort of NTR fetish thing. Susie expresses no interest in anyone other than Noelle
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thread needs more rape
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>weird route chapter 5
>only thing that can seal the fountains decides to throw itself into a lake with noelle and kris
>susie and ralsei is left to deal with the chapter 5 fountain the knight makes to steal asgore
The roaring unofficially starts basically hours after you drown yourself, doesn't it?
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>>741916412
why do you think it skips over 99% of chapter 5 and the entirety of chapter 6?
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There is no way undertale and deltarune aren't connected. After finishing this chapter, you cannot convince me otherwise. toby is going to link the worlds somehow in chapter 7 I just fucking know it
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>>741916412
Yes. Chapter 6 normal route probably starts the roaring at the end but in weird route it happens that very day
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Why is he such a fag?
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NOT A SINGLE FUCKING PERSON ON THE MAIN PARTY IS STRAIGHT
>Kris is nonbinary
>Susie is a raging lesbian because of Toby’s fetish
>Ralsei’s character arc of “growing into his own person” is trooning out
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>>741916412
You don't know if the Knight will make the fountain in Kris's stead.
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>Carol isn't ugly, she's just in a constant manic state
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>>741916637
(You) are straight though
...right Anon?
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>>741916678
>Carol got weird routed in the past
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>>741916412
>the chapter 5 fountain the knight makes
that only got made because kris made the first one
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I just finished the chapter and damn...I love this flower so fucking much. The chapter otherwise was a bit of a letdown
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>>741916748
Who made the second fountain though? The knight?
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>>741916678
>her deranged sprites are straight up just based on carol's deranged sprites
holy fuck man
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>Noelle hears that Rudy fell off the ladder
>Kris: fuck I gotta make this fountain again his ass is gonna be slow
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>>741915139
>>741915739
>>741916220
i feel like a retard for not picking up on this earlier, rudyGODS i kneel
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I'm curious what the behind-the-scenes development process of Chapter 5 was really like.

How many arguments between the development team members happened?
How many arguments didn't happen when they really should have?
What made it all culminate into whatever most of this chapter was?

I like Chapter 5 in some areas, the gameplay's probably the strongest part... at least in the parts that actually do exist.
But it does feel similar to Chapter 3, where there was an attempt to damage control some kind of internal mess that happened.
I wonder what that would be.
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You didn't beat the game
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>>741916678
Holy fuck.
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>>741916678
I don't know if this is a "like mother like daughter" thing or Carol comes from post-weird route
I remember someone theorized how Carol had her own fun gang, which involved Catti's dad who lost his arm during the adventure
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>>741916917
Anyone know how many it takes?
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>>741915739
>"Chamber made of glass"
>Flowery's enclosure
>Rudy's hospital room
>The Knight's armor
Holy fuark
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>>741916664
I guess not, but I'd assume that it needs to exist for the prophecy to come true and for the knight to steal Asgore for ??? reasons.
Either way my point stands that without us, the knight has free reign to do whatever the fuck it wants.
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>>741916937
>Carol comes from post-weird route
that may also explain her obsession with hearts
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>You can't even say stop like you used to
Literally what the fuck could Noelle mean by that
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>>741916904
I suspect that it was easy to raise objections about gameplay, but questioning any of the really Pride Month shit in the plot was socially unacceptable and thus evaded the usual rigorous playtesting and refinement

Plus there was clearly cut content in the castle. At least 3 enemy designs that stayed as NPCs but never got encounters. I think Toby is feeling the time crunch and would rather meet deadlines than drag out development any longer
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does this mean flowers have souls
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>>741916904
I sincerely doubt anything major is from anyone but Toby. Whatever other team is just grunt work he's too busy to do himself.
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>>741915739
>>741916220
>RudyKnight rematch will have a theme with lyrics too
Would be ultra kino
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>>741916735
He doesn’t want troon Ralsei, so obviously not.
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>>741916678
Is that why her colors seem kinda fucked up? She's almost in a constant Dark World state?
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>>741916904
We know we were supposed to get Chapter 5 alongside 3 and 4 before plans changed and 5 become a later seperate release.
I have a strong feeling that if 5 was part of that bundle it would've looked drastically different than what we got. There's no way in hell it got wrapped up alongside the other 2 chapters.
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>>741917071
Nope, but they try their best to pretend they do no matter what universe
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>>741916791
>The chapter otherwise was a bit of a letdown
The secret boss fucking sucked, the chapter hyped hard in the last hour, flower man is such a powerful song, we need MORE
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>>741916678
>carol is mere seconds away from raping (you) at any given moment
SEXOOOOOOO
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>>741917071
Something not enough people talk about is that Flowery and Blue have undertale talk sprites as opposed to every other darkner.
99% chance this is why they added in the plants being special bit, but its food for thought.
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>>741917149
If it was gonna be different it would be from having to cut down/rush it to shit to make the deadline in time. He thought he could do it all together and realized he was in over his head.
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>>741916904
Funny thing about chapter 3, i would argue cutting board 3 ended up enhancing the game, specifically sword route
Coming back to the green room after all the chaos to play a board of a game you never got to play makes the experience more eerie, especially since you go the bunker next and fight eram next
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>>741917040
That one anon that once theorized Kris was terrified of Noelle was right.
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>>741915139
I mean that's pretty obvious ,their faces are super similar and his normal voice sounds are like a lighter Rudy's.
I don't know if that necessarily hints at him being the Knight, more like Asgore projected the personalities of people he knows onto flowers. Albeit the rest of the flowers aren't as 1:1 to Lightners as Flowery is to Rudy. Aqua could be Kris as a child perhaps.
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>>741916678
Carol has seen the power of a human soul in the past, and now noelle is seeing that same power too
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>>741917071
They do when the thing is important enough to someone, like Gerson's ashes.
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Didn't play it, did Kris get the Finn/John Egbert treatment?
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KRUSIEBROS STAY STRONG BELIEVE IN THE PLAN
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>>741916678
>somehow get carol out of the stresses of mayoral officework and dying husband
>becomes MILF noelle
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>>741916791
>best theme in the chapter
>best fight in the chapter
>hogs all the most memorable moments in the chapter
>most aura in the chapter
>actually pretty funny
>has a motivation that is flawed yet admirably heroic, so much so that it feels like the he's more of a hero than the fun gang
>complete disregard for prophecy bullshit and game mechanics
>constantly calls out the gang for being prophecy goycattle
>ultimately too kindhearted to go too far
>most people seem to actually dislike him at first so he's not a first impression merchant
he's EASILY the best thing about the chapter
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>>741917210
Darkners have talk sprites too. The difference is that darkner sprites are colored while lightner sprites are white. Flowery is just pretending to have a lightner sprite, his eyes are colored but he doesn't open them often. Blue has a completely normal darkner talk sprite.
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>>741915739
If Lost Dreams and tears lf them make the shadow / black glass stuff, does RudyKnight imply he took it so hard that the sheer tragedy gave him the strongest black armor ever (that can potentially even work in the light world)
Toby is a hack so I worry, but this would make me kneel on its own
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>>741917284
Wasn't it spelled out in the story?
Asgore talked to the flowers while tending to them and they took on aspects of what he spoke to them about

So he probably told the aqua flower about Kris' childhood chicanery, and the golden flower about his frat days with Rudy
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>>741916841
>kris is trying to throw the prophecy off the rails
>kris opened the fountain so hastily because they heard rudy got injured and wanted to get the flower king dark world over and done with before the knight could take asgore
>kris took the golden flower seeds to finish the job the ladder started
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>>741917372
...wait, then what the fuck did he say to the blue flower?
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>>741917309
He’s the greatest cuck protagonist of our time
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>He actually believed in race mixing
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>>741917429
>everyone in town is so fucking gay
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>enter Chapter 6 Dark World
>you're greeted by these three
What do you do?
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>>741917429
maybe asgore really likes the performing arts
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>>741917429
About how much he loved Toriel, what else?
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>>741917429
he jerked off on the blue flower
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>>741917036
wait, if Carol had her own weird route, what are the likelihood the soul that controlled Carol is the same soul have controlled Noelle?
it would explain this line
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Carol's dislike of Susie is understandable
>Poor
>Punk temperament
>From out of town
>Lesbian
>A threat to her plot (whatever the hell it is)
>Is purple
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>>741917482
don't put my man rouxls with those two ever again
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>>741917367
>rudy got the armor
>carol got the sword
kino
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>>741917363
I forgive you for not remembering, but blue does actually have an undertale style talk sprite he uses like 3 times right when you first meet him.
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>>741917482
roulxs please save me from a shit scene... PLEASE work your magic and make it funny or i WILL kill myself
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I miss the genocide route. Being able to kill all these new faggy NPCs would have been awesome.
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This scene is overshadowed by the absolute mindfuckery that precedes it, but I still thought it was nice.
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>>741917179
Yeah this chapter is hardcarried by Flowery. The shadowcrystal boss is the worst of the bunch, the supporting cast (besides Green) doesn't really stand on its own and even the writing wasn't at its strongest. I don't know maybe for the first time I'm disappointed with the work Toby Fox did
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>>741917603
that's gotta be the most repulsive Undertale talksprite ever made wow
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>>741917372
that doesn't make sense for Green or Blue or Orange or Seth
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>>741917603
Stephen universe reject
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>>741917649
Wait you can't kill them? That's cringe as fuck

I did pacifist but really you don't even get the option? What happens if you attack them?
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>>741917656
this is cancelled weird route right?
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>>741917657
Flowery was great. Anyone who dislikes him doesn't appreciate classic anime.
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>>741917041
>the really Pride Month shit in the plot
BROTHER
Why are you in these threads if you have not played Undertale?
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I haven't finished the chapter yet but I'm really not feeling it. Is there any gameplay exclusive to the weird route like solo spamton?
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>>741917718
There is no 'abort' jingle like there is in CH2 and CH4.
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>>741917718
Yeah, right after the "Nothing changed." scene.
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>>741917367
>Rudy who covers himself with jokes and laughter gets the armor
>Carol who is cold and mean gets the sword
2knights can still win
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>>741917529
This is going to be the new big schizo theory until 6 isn't it
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>>741917752
you got what i meant
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Rudyknight makes sense the more I think about it. Dess knight is too reliant on stuff lacking setup and the weird route weirdness from Rudy has me convinced.
Why would he harm himself so much to the point of constant hospitalization?
A belief opening fake worlds will find dess.
Which makes Kris cooperating with the knight make sense without making Kris just being someone wanting to end the world.
Things are about to get interesting...
Shame it'll take till ch 6 to see it payoff.
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>>741917692
>I did pacifist but really you don't even get the option?
A lot of fights are scripted where either you can't deplete their HP to zero or enemies run away
only in weird route you can "kill", but that's only in like one third of chapter 2
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Crossdressing Ralsei theory
>Ralsei is stereotypically feminine, more than Susie
>Taking what Flowery says literally, Ralsei is female and a princess of the dark, not prince
>Ralsei is pretending to be male to fufill the prophecy of a prince from the dark, explaining the impossibility
>Even ignoring Ralsei being a girl and assume he's a guy, we have no evidence to support that he is even a prince, however...
>The actual prince of the dark is LANCER. He has had extensive screentime beyond what is to be expected, having large moments in chapter 2 and 3 and always appearing
>Lancer can manipulate the game in the Rouxls fight, showing he's more capable than everyone (including him) would expect

I dont see this ever happening considering Toby's Tumblr background and the Ralsei transgender implications
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It's too on the nose this time.
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>>741917740
Quite the contrary, my friend! Quite the contrary!
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>>741909532
only thing wrong is there's only 5 eggs
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>>741917284
>Aqua could be Kris as a child perhaps.
Someone repost that one screencap in which Noelle calls the Aqua knife "nostalgic".
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>>741917806
>Taking what Flowery says literally
I think we both know the problem with this theory.
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>>741916841
>>741917401
This plus Flowery being representative of Rudy has me all in on Rudy Knight.
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>>741917740
>Is there any gameplay exclusive to the weird route
hahaha.... yeah man.....
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Is Blue worse than sweet capn cakes? Do we finally have a contender for worst slop ever put in the game?
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>>741917740
No. The game peaked in Chapter 2. I love you Spamton.
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https://youtu.be/iLxfUgLs4Ko?si=o9sJa2fuFOM-2dSn&t=238

an irritation I have with this chapter is that it seems to get rid of the alternate outcome if you attack anyone or even lose a recruit. chapter 1 ralsei pacifies the king instead of his people helping you, chapter 2 berdly injures his arm, chapter 3 tenna is broken forever, chapter 4 jackenstein falls. but in 5, nothing happens.
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Is it me or does Pink just not fit with the rest of the chapter? She's so different from everything else that it actually threw me off when I first saw her
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>>741917776
yeah but this the "cancelled" route path
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>gets her daughter drowned
what a great mom
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Tobyfox won
Chapter 5 is kino
He is living in Japan
Sakurai made him his successor
New Smash will be done by him
4chan lost as usual
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>>741917656
>if you abort the weird route this chapter you get double krusie handholding
>no abort jingle means that this may actually be a secret third path
KRUSIEFAGS STAY WINNING
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>Susie and Noelle are now lesbians forever
>Ralsei will come out as trans at some point
>Kris will then date trans Ralsei
screenshot this post, it will come true
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>>741917796
There is a huge flaw with it. If it is rudyknight then asgore would also be in on it since they want the same thing and carol already has his cooperation basically.
But that's not what is shown.
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>>741917796
you know what would be absolute ludokino cinema (but probably won't happen)? after susie tells noelle about the dark world being true, the first thing she does is rush to the hospital because she thinks she can heal rudy, and so she opens a fountain there and... well, i think you know where i'm going with this, rudy in the DW appears as just the knight
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>>741917806
>Ralsei is pretending to be male to fufill the prophecy of a prince from the dark, explaining the impossibility
but Ralsei doesn't want to fulfill the prophecy. he explicitly states he wants it to change
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>>741917740
the good news is that if you didn't enjoy chapter 5 normal route, you may enjoy the weird route version
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>>741917796
Rudy isn't trying to start the roaring he's literally just searching every possible location in Hometown to try and find Dess
Only when he's exhausted all locations related will he finally say fuck it and cover the world in darkness as a last resort to find her.
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>>741917929
Kinda the point of her but at the same time she does still feel tacted on
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>>741916678
ENHANCE
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>>741917806
He will troon out by the end and Toby will get applause from all 50 transfolx fans.
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>>741909532
uhhh KINO desu
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>>741917941
>He is living in Japan
I don't think that's a w in 2026
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>>741917980
This logic is like saying that the prophecy could be stopped if Ralsei killed himself before meeting Kris and Susie
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>>741917929
She only exists to foreshadow Kris and the Soul eventually learning to get along after Kris is inevitably betrayed by whoever he's been working with.
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>>741917953
Asgore isn't required to be in on it, he could have just not told Asgore and used Carol as his "man on the outside" who is also stupidly fast and strong
But Asgore will definitely know once he's kidnapped
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>>741918038
there are no Ws in 2026. worlds gone to shit even the rich are diseased
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>>741917687
seth is probably asriel, it'd explain why her and aqua are usually together
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>>741917980
he wants to stop it but doesn't think he can do it until his frens and flowers change his mind
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>>741909532
What Toby would write if he wasn't irony poisoned and groomed by trannies
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>>741917656
Man, where the fuck did this Susie go...
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>>741917429
"Far in the future, there will be a goonbait darkner that's literally just fucking water. You're like an exceedingly shitty version of that character in every single way"
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>>741918064
>learning to get along
I don't see this shit ever happening. He's just a dickhead to you no matter what even if you're nothing but nice
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>>741916678
Who raped her?>>741916735
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>>741909532
if
>he is in front of the tree
is never a line in the game, toby is a hack
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>>741918038
PewDiePie won
4chan lost again
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>>741918092
Flushed down the toilet because Toby doesn't want to upset the rainbow gang.
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Anyone else hate the Annoying Dog appearences? It lost its charm and has been beginning to feel like Toby is doing it for his ego more than being actually funny
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>>741917929
all the secret bosses don't "belong" in their chapter outside of a common theme, in mewmew's case it's weebery
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>>741917806
His feminine appearance is due to makeup though
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>>741917429
his discord phase
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Why was the fuck was there so much Susie and Noelle content this chapter? It legit took up like 30% of the screentime and it feels like their development just kind of speedran itself
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Toby's distate for the fans making theories in this chapter was so bizarre. What is his thought process? "How dare they take this melody i used exclusively for the first 2 secret bosses and assume it's going to be tied to the secret bosses" I don't get it
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>the boss was the flower
I was right on my prediction nice, for such a faggy fruitcake character his boss theme was catchy
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>>741918082
but why would he pretend to be a guy if he doesn't want the prophecy to happen in the first place? if the prophecy mentions a prince and he's a princess, it's already a non-issue
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>>741917796
DessKnight is plausible but never actually had a motive beyond fanon "wants to end the world with Kris for some reason we don't know"
Alternatively it's "not really Dess, but her lost dreams forming a pseudo darkner" but that's a separate idea
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>>741917603
I can't believe Toby put John Concord in Chapter 5. How did he get the rights?
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>>741918123
>after he's inevitably betrayed
Is the key part. You can join forces with bitter enemies if it means fucking over someone even worse.
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>>741918208
the bat was basically the only evidence in favour of dessknight

luckily this chapter seems to have shut up most dessniggers
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>>741917628
>Wing Ding Gaster, if you can hear us, please Wing Ding Gaster, please save me. Wing Ding Gaster please save me I'm asking you, Wing Ding Gaster
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>>741918203
Youre talking to a schizo. No not a schizo theorist just a schizo who really wants ralsie to be trans for shitposting purposes.
Any justification will be used to facilitate that
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>>741918162
the only times i ever found it funny was a couple of times in undertale and when he runs you over in chapter 2, but i generally hate toby's fucking "persona" with that thing, he's trying way too hard to be yoko taro despite everyone already knowing what he looks and sounds like for years
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>>741909846
Evidently not smart enough to realize the pretty applicable commentary you could have derived from the chapter.
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>>741917656
>weird route got more fun Susie goofery than the actual main route
This shit sucks man, why did Toby do this
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So Kris was the one who knocked out Susie and Ralsei after the knight fight in chapter 3, right?
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>>741918180
Narrative dissonance between it feeling like these characters have been interacting for years despite the game so far only taking like 3 days.
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>>741909474
I cannot WAIT to properly kill everyone from Chapter 5 good god hurry up and give me the twisted sword already
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Chapter 5 gave me a similar feeling to Chapter 1 all those years ago
It's not perfect, but it has SOUL
makes me glad to be alive :)
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>>741917953
Flowery being a Rudy parallel means that Rudy might hide the dark truths from Asgore, but Asgore already knows a lot of it
Just like Flowery being told Asgore was just playing along, Asgore is going crazy in isolation and Rudy knows of it but is probably trying to protect him and solve it
himself.
^ headcanon theoryshitting
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I spent all day speedrunning Chapter 3 and 4 to catch up on the Weird Route
And it was worth it.
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>>741918181
it turns out that toby didn't actually plan out a connection between the secret bosses, he just reused a motif that he liked and is annoyed that everyone thinks there's something more to it.
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Cannot get over how fucking GOOD this track is holy shit. This and Petal Dance just nuke the ch.5 OST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q6S2XgQJ8c
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>>741918303
Susie didn't just move in at chapter 1 retardbro. They've all known each other long enough.
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>>741918290
It boggles my mind how you can do all this shit with just (you) and Susie and all Susie wants to do is gush about Noelle. I'd get it if you pushed them to be together but she acts like that even if you try your hardest to not do that
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>>741917284
the poses are the same as the knight
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>>741909474
Right? I was pissed when Chapter 2 didn't end up having me fight a car.
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>>741918371
do you guys not play other games?
stickerbrush symphony riffs are not new
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>the final prophecy is never revealed and remains vague
remember this post. i am fully confident in it now
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>>741918371
absolute japanslop niggercoal
petal dance is fine though but it's also japanslop
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>>741918338
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>>741918392
Noelle is Susie’s crush. She literally bullied Kris because she thought he was dating her kek
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>>741917179
secret boss was definitely the funnest actual fight in the game so far, narratively not as strong but I don't think you can just keep going terribly meta coming off of spamton and tenna's heels
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>>741917041
I noticed this while playing and it almost felt like a bad omen for the secret boss and the rest of the chapter.

>>741917250
I can agree the cut content does make the chapter better, yeah.

>>741917090
>Whatever other team is just grunt work he's too busy to do himself.
Probably.

>>741917149
>We know we were supposed to get Chapter 5 alongside 3 and 4 before plans changed and 5 become a later seperate release.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Perhaps people were on-boarded onto the character/writing team while Chapter 5 was still in development, and that's why the writing feels so frankensteined.

>>741917603
It's so ugly I hate it so much.
I'm forgetting this character exists and sticking to my headcanon.

The blue flower/rose darkner could have been a schizo female who was the original holder of the Thorn Ring, and she would have been a WR exclusive secret boss who acts almost normal in the regular route but quietly tries to kill us once she recognizes Noelle has the ring she lost equipped. She wouldn't be the shadow crystal holder, that would be another secret boss.

It would explain why the Thorn Ring is so powerful is because it's the weapon you were supposed to get from a Chapter 5 boss. You already have her secret boss weapon, you got it 3 chapters early.

We already had the blue soul mechanic in the form of the chapter's gimmick, so it especially hurts that it didn't happen.
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>>741918426
who said they are new
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>>741918392
>all Susie wants to do is gush about Noelle
I'm sorry bro but she loves her. It's over. Kris lost.
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>>741918392
Your choices mean nothing
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>>741917603
Is that ishowspeed
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>>741918356
this sums up the entirety of deltarune "fans make up plot theory that is better than what he planned, nukes it next chapter and wastes time doing nothing"
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>>741918147
I don't know what that has to do with anything
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Weirdfags will lose
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>>741918494
KEK
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>>741918181
I assume you'd rather he went full fnaf and based every decision on fan feedback
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>Undertale Aqua
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why do people pretend to like deltarune?

this shit is literally tumblr: the game
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>>741917603
I don't think this is Toby's fault, he's made Mettaton and other decent-ish gay characters before, this one feels like donut steel crap
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>>741918551
the only thing theoryfags want is to be right about everything so obviously
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>>741918501
for normal route this is correct but the weird route continuation is better than any i've seen suggested
some got close but none were noelle getting so mindraped and thirsty for freedom that she "forces" kris to walk into a double suicide
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>>741918551
Of course not but i find it weird that he gets mad at the fans assuming things with the information they are given
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>>741918435
At least one aspect of the overarching mystery will deliberately never be revealed and this is a pretty good candidate
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So the only way to beat the Knight is to gain ultra giga knower knowledge and cheat at the game, but Ralsei won't let us
He could just max his stats and ours and buttrape the Knight back with playground rules but he won't?
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So the bitch now actually lives in the closet or what?
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>>741918557
uou
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>>741918371
>No TEN FEET TWENTY THE FLOWER MAN
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>>741918597
the weird route is 5 minutes for a melodramatic scene ending in a teaser for something that won't be out until 2028 or 2029 YICKADEEEEE
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>>741918501
friend believers are gonna riot when they realize it's literally nothing but a spooky face meant to scare players and that's it.
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I really liked this video. Basically explained why Chapter 5 didn't sit right with anyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ38Mf6DODg
I'm not shilling I just follow this guy and he's always very sharp.
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>>741918338
Same. Toby is an amazing director, I had faith he would deliver and he did. Now two more years of waiting.
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>>741918551
obviously no one wants that but shitting on fans in your own game is something you should do sparingly not every single episodic release

hes going full umineko and its hard to watch
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Why is aqua like the sexiest character in this chapter
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Sex with Seth.
>B..but gender /pol/ faggotry
Sex. With. Seth.
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>>741918634
Her home life sucks we know this.
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>>741918626
Ralsei knows how shit is gonna end and is desperately trying to steer the plot out of the oncoming brick wall that will kill the driver and everyone aboard.
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>>741918532
I feel like I'm going crazy it it's like they talk like they're fucking when determination drowning in the lake.
Repeated phrases faster and faster to climax ?
I'm not crazy for noticing this am I?
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>>741915886
I can't be the only one who thinks the Susie in weird route feels like the same Susie who went out adventures with you since chapter 1, while in Susie normal route feels like a completely different character. I think i finally understand how Noelle felt about Kris acting himself again without the soul
I hope the cope theory that the prophecy forces people to act strange is true
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>>741918626
Ralsei is a rulescuck and will never actually stop the prophecy because stopping the prophecy means he'd literally die and he can't handle that. FloweryCHAD was fine with dying for his beliefs and ending his dream
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>>741918634
Lives in the closet
Lives in Noelle's room
Sleeps in Noelle's bed
Every night
Her scales make her immune to that FILTHY WHORE'S ticks
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>>741918634
woow you must be a detective
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>>741918706
i would rape that thing's butthole whether there's a dick hanging down there or a fat pussy
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>>741918674
naw its gonna show its true form in chapter 666 when noelle makes the holiday manor darkworld trust me bro
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I wish the flowers had more Japanese influence on their character design. Aqua is the ONLY flower that has a Japanese influence, the others feel dropped in from wherever exclusively to be Undertale references and fill diversity quotas
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>>741917040
Honestly, there must be some kind of unreliable narrator element in an indirect way surrounding Noelle, I wouldn't be surprised if we get to see what happened to Dess and it turned out that in REAL reality, Noelle was actually the forceful spooky crazy one who kept instigating the starting fuckup of the story
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>>741918551
Why do you faggots always assume if someone complains about something it means they must be 100% on the complete opposite?
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>>741918634
Her hair was on Kris' bed when you go there earlier in the day, she slept there last night.
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>>741918706
Seth is clearly a straight nerdy girl who needs to be fucked back to the correct pronouns
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>>741918659
The ultimate normalfag filter
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>>741918702
No lmao Toby hasn't gotten anywhere close to the goats, calm down.
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>>741918706
Seth is supposed to be Alphys right?

Alphys if she wasn't ugly anyway.
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>ralsei is going to go megaschizo when we try to delete his fountain
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>>741918634
This is at least her third night in a row away from home. She doesn't have a family that cares about her, if she has a family at all.
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>>741918775
They could’ve been samurai for maximum chess theory bait.
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Why Seth? Did I skip a piece of dialogue? I remember Seth and Aqua talking about their names and Aqua mentions that Seth was a weird name.
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>>741918724
Kris obviously is hurt in the final shot about Susie dropping him for Noelle so hard.
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>>741918775
Honestly I feel like the world itself being Japanese is weirder than the flowers not following the Japanese motif
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>>741918798
Seth is just a token romance for ralsei so Toby can kriscelmaxx!
(Am I doing this right?)
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People are not pissed OFF enough about the "I was jealous of you" Susie line.
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>>741918685
like Ch3 it reveals nothing useful in deltarune, is a literal filler chapter for a very important one, hometown's main event was trash
if it weren't for the human soul parallels Ch5 would had been absolutely hated
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The only way Chapter 6 is salvageable is if Kris gives up on everything and lets you take full control of the Light World.
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>>741918706
I came here to post exactly this
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>>741918820
Alphys or maybe a young Toriel.
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>>741918850
Yeah why is Seth the only one not named after their color?
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>>741918781
Conversation with Susie by the church on this route also reveals she's into horror movies
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>>741918798
I don't fucking care
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Honestly, in a world where Undertale was the larger episodic game, I could absolutely see the Hotland stretch getting hit with the same backlash here as Chapter 5
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Why does /v/ care about this game more than about new Xenoblade?
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i did not fucking think this would be the Chapter 5 Weird Route
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>>741918083
>irony poisoned
he's like the least unironic person imaginable, the game is just filled with things he loves with his whole heart
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>>741918938
because xenoblade is a dogshit series
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>>741918905
Nah from what Rudy said Toriel was a party girl/ mean girl like susie
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>>741918938
Because Chapter 5 was the biggest letdown of the year and everyone is consoling each other.
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>>741918901
no weird route in chapter 6 buddy, that will continue in chapter 7, i bet it will suck
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>>741918850
I think it's literally because he thinks he's to smart for a color name. Might have some connection with berdley
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>>741918626
Anon Flowery proved max stats that aren't real won't do shit against the Knight.
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>>741918847
>Yellow as a samurai with a matchlock instead of a cowboy with a revolver
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>>741918936
Alphys is literally everyone's least favorite part of Undertale though
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>>741918850
Seth says that “humans have normal names” instead of colors or something along those lines once when speaking with Aqua
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>>741918978
Doesn't Reddit like it?
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>>741918961
this bitch is scary man
i don't want doe pussy anymore GET ME OUT OF THE RIDE TOBY
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They're all his stories he told them about the people flanderized, not directly the person but representations of his feelings about them in the past.
>Flowery
Rudy
>Seth
Asriel
>Aqua
Kris
>Blue
Toriel
>Yellow
Undyne
>Orange
I actually don't know
>Green
I also don't know
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>>741918706
based beyond belief
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>>741909474
i've seen people call the secret bad are they fucking retarded, this is amazing
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>>741919024
Reddit trannies would eat horseshit if it had a big sign saying eat this to le own le choods
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>>741918967
Are you being ironic? Am I being ironic? Is everyone being ironic?
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>>741918936
The difference is that Hotland deserves the backlash.
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>>741918181
He's jealous that we came up with a more resonant interpretation of the freedom motif than he did and also angry that we expected him to adhere to it.
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>>741919024
Reddit are a bunch of slop eaters. They will act like the sun shines out of your asshole if you are a progressive. Their feedback is meaningless because they aren't honest. They can't be, there's no upvotes in it
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>>741918961
Noelle “the screaming only makes it hotter” Holiday
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>>741919036
I figured orange is based on a young undyne, before she became a murder machine
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>>741918936
hotland is literally trash though
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>>741918820
A theory I find plausible given Seth's crush on Berdly is that Berdly would go to the Flower Shop and use Seth in flower form to practice being romantic. Seth became Berdly's ideal romantic partner as a result
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>>741919049
You mean the secret boss? if so i think it's fun but the problem is the previous 4 weren't fun, they were KINO
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>>741909474
>can't defeat with violence blue, yellow, green, orange, flowery or mew mew.
Might as well delete the fucking FIGHT command Toby, you fucking COWARD PIECE OF SHIT. suddenly Ralsei and Susie stop obeying my commands to attack because...?
This retard flower is preventing us from sealing the fucking dark fountain before the knight comes to kidnap Asgore and these retards would rather fill his mercy meter, fuck Toby Fox, he really shat the bed this time
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Weird Route has peaked. Toby will let you down in Chapter 7. This shit SUCKS!
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>>741919028
TOO LATE. THE DEER WON'T LET YOU SAY NO ANYMORE.
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>>741918181
These threads are terrible and full of lunatics who lose their shit when their headcanon gets trashed, I'd be more worried if someone didn't have contempt for them.
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>>741919134
Mew Mew is kino if you pick up on the entire fight being an allegory for Kris' relationship with the player.
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>>741919049
It's fun. Bomberman attack sucks but the rest is great.
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He told you.
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>>741918471
>Blue flower/rose darkner could have been a schizo female who was the original holder of the Thorn Ring
>She wouldn't be the shadow crystal holder, that would be another secret boss

So what you're saying the thorn ring holder would have been the original secret boss for the chapter who fucked up and essentially lost the qualifications, so another darkner (shadow crystal holder) took her place while she's relegated to a weird route boss fight.
I like that, having the blue soul mode be linked to weird route only would have been very interesting. you should make a fangame.
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>>741919146
>suddenly Ralsei and Susie stop obeying my commands to attack because...?
...they've been doing it the whole game? Ralsei's whole arc since chapter 3 has been about gaining autonomy, and Susie has always done whatever the fuck she wanted
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>>741918979
There's weirdroute A(? or what you call it) for chapter 6, where noel is aware but you can't control her if you failed to proceed hard enough
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>>741919197
we all love 3 and 4 here
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>>741918685
>>741918895
>like Ch3 it reveals nothing useful in deltarune, is a literal filler chapter for a very important one, hometown's main event was trash
seconding this
the big thing with Ch5 is that most of it is Toby putting TNT in front of some traintracks with very few questions being answered and a few more obscure hints being dropped. You know things are going to explode, especially with how the chapter ended, but we ultimately didn't make much progress.
Chapter 3/4 already gave us the feeling that things were going to worsen and explode with how hyped up the festival was and Ch4's ending about the prophecy.
Ch5 would have been much better received if this were bundled with 3 and 4, but on its own it really doesn't do much well outside of the gameplay department
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>>741919197
3 and 4 being good is what made 5 so bad
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>>741919024
they only seem to "like" it because the mods keep taking down anything that's too negative
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>>741919194
i've played too much bomber man to think it sucks, my instincts just kicked in
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>741919197
>still shilling it
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>>741919179
Didn't Spamton already do that?
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2>5>3>4>1
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>>741919028
SINCE WHEN WERE YOU THE ONE IN CONTROL?
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>>741919149
Deltarune will not break the curse of indie writers not having a fucking clue on how to give their work any satisfying ending, mark my words.
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>>741919049
People were expecting another deepest lore slow burn character like Spamton instead of a random one-off. I prefer the former but getting the latter isn't shocking. I imagine the combined shadow crystal boss is gonna be more serious so that's why Toby went for something more goofy this time.
Mechanically she's fun though a bit too easy (albeit it's hard to make bosses at this stage of the game hard when you can load up on team heal items).
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>>741917482
Rouxls carries this
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I hate how much I care about this game
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Device theory bros, we are eating GOOD this chapter.
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>>741919132
>ideal romantic partner
Tbqh I could see a scene where he rejects her categorically for not being a gamer and it would be fucking hilarious
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>>741917040
Absolutely fucking insane line in context.
Maybe the new defining line of the Weird Route.
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>>741919108
This site is one of the least honest places on the internet, let's be real.
>noo we're anonymous and hyper-negative that means it's reeel!
I used to believe that (lol).
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>>741919231
aborted WR is just like aborted geno, we're not getting any reward from it
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>>741917692
Aqua is the only one you can fight but Seth makes her run away at 20%, everyone else just constantly heals back to max after 2 turns
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>>741917482
laugh, and i will laugh every single time rouxls is in this exact same situation every time
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>>741917736
Not even remotely comparable
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>>741918773
Can’t wait to see Dess’ Mike in the Ice Palace!
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Hey so did anybody else just... not like Mew Mew's theme?
I dont want to add more negativity but I have to get this off my chest, it was literally the first time I ever heard a Toby Fox boss fight and thought "oh no... this is not very good."
I thought maybe my apathy/distaste for the character and shock at Purple Soul being wasted on it was bringing down my first impression, so I listened just now on YouTube. And yeah... I still don't like it.
It's not like I hate all jpop or vocaloid songs either. I've been to "Miku Expo" concert because some friends invited me. I just think the song is Not Good. And that makes me really sad.
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>>741918850
Seth is the only one smart/self-aware enough to know how human names actually work
They're also non-binary and choosing their own name goes with choosing their own identity
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>>741919036
Green could be blooky, he's pretty quiet and probably worked under him. Orange could easily be dess
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>>741918895
I dunno, chapter 3 had some decent filler on Kris's shitty life and at the end introduced the knight with an incredible fight. Tenna was visually interesting in a weird quirky way with his 3D aspects and speech fonts instead of Ch5's DUDE ANIME DUDE THE UT SOULS DUDE COLLABS LMAO.
Eram and the backstage had good atmosphere and felt serious and intentional. Nothing in Chapter 5 feels "legitimate" its all too quirky.
I get the Ch3 hate, its kinda lame to replay and Toby even lets you skip the intro part by sleeping through it on the couch if you want but chapter 5 is more filler and delaybait than 3 ever was.
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Is there some special criteria for recruiting jack? because my friend didn't have him in ch 5 despite getting everyone else from ch4
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>>741918494
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I lost.
I'm sorry...
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>>741919398
It wasn't written by Toby, that's why.
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>>741910853
Flower Man refers to both Asgore and Flowery in different ways.
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So what's the consensus on where the last few dark fountains are gonna be?
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>>741919369
People are honest here, dude. For the most part.

Yes you have to sift through a few retards acting out for (You)s, and a few spergs. Those people are also on reddit, or whatever other forum.

But on 4chan you don't have moderator censorship or voting systems to force a consensus. You don't have people watching their words because they are afraid they will lose social credit or damage their reputation. This IS more honest than any other chatroom or form of social media I've found. People are more honest here than they are with close friends
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The event... oh heavens the event. You know Kris. The tragedy. The tragic event that occurred during our lifetimes. Some people or persons may have been involved in that event... but most importantly me... or maybe not. It changed everything Kris. The occurrence. That fateful occurrence that happened... some time in the past. It still haunts me to this day. I can remember it perfectly in my mind's eye at this very second... but I shan't talk about it any longer.
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>>741919049
It's completely correct to call the secret boss narratively underwhelming
>Jevil
Meta-aware boss, knows this is all just a game, introduces the freedom motif that symbolizes this "I've stumbled upon things I was not supposed to find"
>Spamton
Follows the same blueprint of Jevil with better execution, the cryptic dialogues, his insanity, his speech patterns
>MANTLE
Expands on Kris's mind, Kris takes real damage from being hit in the game, his sprite coming out of the TV, entering the TV to get the ShadowMantle
>Gerson
Finishes Susie's arc and introduces a shining light to the story, gives Susie confidence to write her own story, and tells Kris
>*path so blue, it's all you can see.
>*So I say... why don't we go between the lines?
>*It's darker there... Geheh...
>MewMew
literal fanservice, at least they added a lot more character to Gerson, what's fun about the secret bosses is that they all reveal something about the game itself, but MewMew is just fucking nothing, it's especially egregious considering she's the LAST shadowcrystal holder.
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>>741919179
>>741919264
Spamton already did that. Mew Mew's problem is that she really doesn't fit with the rest of the bosses from a lore perspective.
She should've been like the Mike fight.

She's a fun fight, but she doesn't add much to the story beyond making the spamton parallel more blatant.
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>orange mouse flower this chapter states that it's a human despite looking like a mouse
>ralsei keeps condescendingly treats it like it's just a mouse and there are moments where susie is irritated that ralsei is doing that
>susie is shy about her tail
>we still haven't seen susies parents
>in the 10th anniversary for undertale gerson mentions that human monster couples were a thing

I'm goin' all in on susie is half human.
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>>741919329
>the device had an original aesthetic and presentation in chapter 1
>suddenly it's an analog horror creepypasta CRT screen
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>>741919450
/v/...
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>>741919265
2 > 3 > 5 > 1 > 4

TV world is the best theme tobias has ever done
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>>741919450
it's ok flowery you're still my goat
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>>741918850
it's just an illusion of gaia reference
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>>741919028
This is what I signed up for.
This is what I wanted.
I won.
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>>741919398
Why are you typing like a faggot.
Are you larping for attention
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>>741918471
>We already had the blue soul mechanic in the form of the chapter's gimmick, so it especially hurts that it didn't happen.
Huh i didn't think about like that but you are right
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>>741919481
fucking kek
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>>741919340
>rape doe
>she rapes you back
Kinography
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>>741919036
IMO Yellow is Asgore himself (pathetic suicidal justice man, since he was once a cop)
And Blue is Toriel
hence them being gay for eachother
This could tie cleanly to

>Flowery
College Rudy
>Seth
Asriel
>Aqua
Kris
>Blue
Toriel
>Yellow
Asgore
>Orange
Young Undyne
>green
?
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>>741910153
Are you trying to gaslight people? That's not Asgore at all. This Chapter was dog shit.
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>>741919340
>Chapter 2 would have you believe that Noelle is easily frightened and likes scary stuff because someone will comfort her
>Chapter 5's lake speech makes it blatant that she's actually fucking nuts and is bottling this stuff even in the normal route
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slowly understanding that people are treating deltarune like how retards treat umineko where they get mad at any and all characterization and call it """""filler""""" that is clearly meaningful to the overall story but since it's not le mystery solving 24/7 it's automatically bad to them.
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>>741919548
>pathetic suicidal justice man
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>>741919447
>Blue I'm watching your trial bruh why you trying not to laugh bro that's disrespectful as shit bruh
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AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE US CHARA-CHAN AND DESTROY DELTARUNE!!!
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>>741919548
oh deer seems like the theory has hit a bit of a snag lemao
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>>741919264
All six bosses (including Eram) basically form an arc for Kris. Jevil is telling Kris that the thing in the cage has the real freedom and he needs to accept it. Spamton is mirroring Kris' fears over being discarded, but Eram points out that Kris hates us less than he wants us to know, while emphasizing the "kris" symbolism. The Knight highlights our ability to change fate, while Gerson highlights how Kris can use us to empower someone else (Susie in that case). Mew Mew is the last step, basically shouting at Kris that actually working with us instead of being a tsundere bitch is the best path forward.
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>>741919495
And it sucks even more because the shop had amazing atmosphere that felt more in line with the previous secret bosses. Wish the fight had those same vibes because that shop was fucking amazing
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>>741919398
I think the issue is that it sounds like less of a Toby Fox song and more of a typical vocaloid song
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>get mad nothing happens
>you're just a lorefag! you're mad because....uh, your theory!
>get mad it's poorly written
>you retard! it's because of the prophecy! what about the 5 minute weird route teaser? hmmmmm?
>get mad the gameplay sucks or is even more dumbed down
>the platformer is way more fun than the RPG we all hope it's a platformer from now on!
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>>741919387
It's borderline 1:1, Noelle/Susie is Undyne/Alphys with more build-up and plot importance. Anyone who's shocked it turned out like this is retarded. To say nothing of the various other gay and non-binary characters. It's the same shit. Just because you were like 5 years old when Undertale came out doesn't change that.
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>>741919369
I disagree
Anons can be very belligerent and disingenuous about their opinions due to being wrapped in layers of irony and for the sake of shitposting to piss off people for their dopamine hit
It's rare to have someone give an honest and through opinion on here
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>>741919398
Mew mew's theme, Flowery's theme and Aqua's theme (?) were the only tracks I liked.
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>>741919265
4>2>1>5>3
2 ignited my love, 4 felt like it was building into a tragic masterpiece, but unfortunately we had a filler arc this year
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>>741919475
My vote goes to:

Hospital
Noelle's Home
Hometown itself
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>>741919265
5>1>4>3>2
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>>741919481
Genuinely, GENUINELY if there was even a 5, maybe even 3 second cutscene of whatever happened back then in full clarity the chapter 5 hating wouldn't be as extreme at all.
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>the 6 pm show? i'll show it at 5!
guess that means 6 ends with the fun gang drowning themselves in the lake
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>>741919369
Whenever I get glimpses behind the curtain and realize how much of 4chan is just the same people rehashing their talking points any time a topic comes up it really depresses me. The facade of anonymity is the only reason I like it here.
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>>741919398
i fucking hated it too
well, not hated it, but it pissed me off how boring and uninteresting it was
this applies to most of the OST of the chapter though, the other chapters absolutely blow it out of the water to an extent that feels unreal honestly
it only had like 1 certified tobykino for me, flower man, rest was ok at best
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>>741919534
Don't be mean to him...i...can't take it...need a moment to myself...
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>>741917806
people saying ralseis trans have to be retarded. flowery called all 3 of them princesses in the beginning does this make kris a girl? also the their shit is insane cope. dude has an act on mad mad mew mew called loverboy. nigger picked blue and pink over green and yellow because those are kris' darkworld colors. what is this new transcope
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>>741919584
it IS like umineko - its an episodic game experiencing a rapid decline due to a disillusioned creator, while retarded pseuds like yourself defend it to the death to grasp at a fleeting sense of superiority
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>>741918726
Ironic since Ralsei's the one who told Kris in Ch. 3 to NOT get attached because the dark worlds aren't real, yet pushes persistence of his own fountain pretty hard.
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>>741919392
Are you sure about that?
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>>741919584
/v/ only likes characters as long as they suck their dick. If the characters aren't sucking, it's "filler" and "bad writing".
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>>741919493
MewMew is a direct allegory for Kris and the Soul. [spoiler[I do agree that she should have been better integrated with a creepier tone[/spoiler]
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>>741919239
Liking 3 but not 5 outs you as a lorehead or shiptard
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>>741919318
Same. I only started playing after work today and the entire time I was on the job I couldn't stop thinking about it. Then I had to sit through the Suselle scenes which were physically painful. I fucking hope the next chapters are good but I've basically lost all hope.
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>>741919265
2 > 4 > 3 > 1 > 5
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>>741919675
>t. goat butler
kys
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>>741919662
>flowery called all 3 of them princesses in the beginning does this make kris a girl?
Were you not paying attention to Aqua?
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>>741919592
>deltatroon fan
>hates theories
?
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>shadow crystals are lost dreams
>dess, asriel, and kris were in a band
>shadow mantle provides DARK/STAR resistance (but it's never specified which one of those the knight actually IS)

And so wept the fallen [rock] star, making rivers with its tears.
Then, slowly, from the bitter water, something grew.
It looked like glass.

A CRACKED CONCH, SURROUNDED BY WASHED UP GLASS
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>>741917401
>Hastily
HE STILL HAD TIME TO FLIP THE TV TO THE GROUND TO AVOID ANOTHER TENNA, THAT LITTLE SHIT
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>>741918850
Sethiroth.....
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>>741919447
Lmao
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>>741919373
Aborted sound DID NOT plays.
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>>741919724
I think it's exactly the same for me. I used to like chapter 1 more than 3 until i did the sword route
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>>741919693
Shameful display
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>>741919675
>while retarded pseuds like yourself defend it to the death to grasp at a fleeting sense of superiority
There is no way you wrote this out and thought it sounded good enough to post. This is laughably nonsensical.
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>>741919398
Disagree that shit slaps.
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>"Um actually flowers can't be impregnated by human men"
Your response?
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>>741919595
Possibly the best analysis of Mew Mew so far. I haven't seen anyone up to now point out the parallels between her and Kris/the Player. I hope this means we'll be having our moment with Kris next chapter seeing as how he's being pushed out by everyone and if Ralsei finds a way to leave Kris too it's fucking over for him.
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>Kris only mentioning the backdoor to the flower shop when susie brings up standing by for the knight
Kris.
I see what you're doing.
Don't think I can't.
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>>741919584
this character didn't even have that much good characterization for the main cast though, compared to older ones
susie went like 10 steps backwards, kris just got more annoying and ralseil... well, he was actually fine, but the development he got in chapters 3 and 4 blows this chapter out of the water hard too
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>>741919049
It's a cool idea (if not very inspired, but Spamton and Gerson were also Undertale fanservice fights) and phenomenal presentation
The fight itself kind of sucks ass
I was fully expecting FRIEND secret boss (especially after Seam goes "hey you still have some Puppet/Cat resistance right haha just asking") but MewMew became pretty obvious once we started collecting coins and all that stuff has been punted to Chapter 6+
Her being the shopkeeper who sells you the key to the fight was also kino

I think it's definitely the weakest of the five but it's not a huge disappointment or anything, it was just fine and expectations were higher
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>>741919179
That is not only extremely obvious but people already made comparisons with Spamton and he and the other schizo bosses had a lot more going on than like one thing.
Not like Mew Mew couldn't work, Gerson did just fine. Just shouldn't have tied Mad Dummy to this again to make the most blatant parallel ever and did something else.
I still like the fight though I'll give it that
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>>741919493
>but MewMew is just fucking nothing, it's especially egregious considering she's the LAST shadowcrystal holder.
she reveals vessels can split and become conscious in light world
although this doesn't apply to spamton for some reason
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>>741919535
Toby included technically three soul modes into this chapter (feather, orange, purple) probably to get people to shut the fuck up about soul modes for the remaining chapters and with that said he should've gone all the fucking way.
Give me my blue soul and cyan soul proper. Where are they, Toby?
It would have been easy. You could have ended this, Toby.
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Shitposting aside, why does Sakurai like Tobyfox so much?
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>>741919638
Petal dance is great
I like most of the area themes that weren't the garden of hopes and dreams
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>>741919679
I like Flowery making snide implications about Ralsei's hypocracy.
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>>741919265
2>>4>3>1>5

I don't hate 5, I think the platforming gimmick felt wonderful and gameplay wise it was good but its been about 10 fucking years man stop fucking blueballing us on every single aspect of the story. Also mew mew is ironic weeb trash, thematically just the same reused ghost joke from UT done yet again with obnoxious ironic weeb miku thrown in
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>>741919265
OBJECTIVE ranking here. 2 was the perfect balance of fun and scary shit going on in the background. 5 and 3 were fun kino. 4 was good as fuck but the constant melodrama isnt what i like deltarune for. 1 is 1
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"Mew Mew doesn't fit in with the other secret bosses!"
>Jevil - Joker in playing card world
>Spamton - Malware in computer world
>Knight - Actually doesn't fit in for tv theme(neither does Eram/Shadow Mantle)
>Gerson - Ghost in church world
>Mew Mew - Anime girl in anime world
"But Mew Mew isn't a schitzo boss!"
>Is literally two people arguing with itself

The only reason Jevil talks like he does is because he's a jester, the only reason Spamton talks like he does is because he's a virus-corrupted ad
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>>741919693
The problem with that is that it's IMPOSSIBLE to make a compelling fight relating to YOUr experience as a player because everyone experiences the game differently.
Who are even supposed to be? The grey MewMew? The pink MewMew? It would've been executed much better if we just fought Kris himself was us coming with terms.
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>>741919480
You conflate assertiveness and negativity with honesty, which is an easy mistake to make if you don't go outside.
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>>741919791
Teach her about Fatchouli and becoming breedable
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>>741917401
>Kris will plant the seeds to grow multiple Flowerys to gangrape the knight
Toby.. i'm sorry for doubting you...
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>>741919791
>So you're saying I can dump loads into you without risk?
>N-no, um that's not-
>I know what you meant
*Unzips*
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>>741919791
>flowers CAN be pollinated by birds
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>>741917656
>Abort Weird route on Chapter 5
>Noelle still has the Thorn ring on
>Incoming chapter brings Noelle to the Dark world
kino incoming.
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>>741919808
Kris so got sloppy in ch 5 even susie suspected shit
lol
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>>741919852
petal dance is also good but yeah it's just 2 songs
the area themes felt underwhelming to me, i mean compared to other chapter area themes
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>>741919675
if anyone's chasing superiority it's the clowns who cling to their schizo theories and insist they're better than what we end up getting, going so far as to cope that the game is written by committee or something now instead of the real based toby in my mind.
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>>741919398
Nah, it was catchy as fuck.

>>741919612
The song was composed by Camellia.
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How will Toby “second coming of Andrew Hussie” Fox fuck up Chapter 6 [S] GAME OVER style?
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God he hates that hat.
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>>741918634
she's been in cope mode this whole chapter
getting more delusional and giving herself fully to escapism. that's why she's not like herself, i thought it was obvious
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>>741919369
people here are honest, but also prone to total narcissim and lying to themselves. you can always believe that the dude saying shit to you believes it himself, even if it's a total lie
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>>741919873
getting defensive and insulting me kind of gave away the game there champ try harder next time
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>>741919697
3 had better music, bosses, and lore. Also much more charm. The only thing 5 has is the platforming segments which are underutilized, and also Aqua.
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>>741919905
Holy fuck
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>>741919265
5B>2B>1>4B>4>5>2>3
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>>741918813
what's up with the dog cock dildo on the bottom
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>>741919869
>Kris as the final ShadowCrystal boss fight
Fuck me, why is Toby so retarded? It would've been fucking kino.
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>>741919938
PUT THE HAT ON FAGGOAT
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I never liked the meta shit in this game. I don't mind meta fiction but this whole relationship between Kris and the player got old years ago. I get it, he doesn't like being a player character. The novelty of that concept has wore off, something needs to actually fucking happen now before it's too little too late
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>>741919724
yeah, that's how i feel about the game
if it weren't for the weird route scene in chapter 4, i would've swapped 3 and 4
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>>741919905
Holy shit that's literally why Seth is so obsessed with brughly isn't it
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>>741919935
GAME OVER was kino though, it was everything else that came after that fucking ruined it even though the comic had been going to shit for a while before then
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>>741919846
>no blue soul in the plataformer chapter
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>>741919850
>sakurai likes old JRPGs and fighting games
>toby makes a game inspired by old JRPGs and fighting games

it makes perfect sense
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>>741918685
>the rainbow fun factory guy
thats a throwback
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>>741919398
I am an avid vocaloid fan and I can safely say it was decidedly mid
Its because its a song from Camellia, which are all pretty meh
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>>741919938
Orange was right, he needs to put the fucking hat back on and keep it.
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>>741919938
The mouse is right by the way
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>>741919850
Both of them are more hardcore than their fanbases think, with an appreciation of obscure retro games, and an understanding that video games in general need to appeal to casual gamers instead of just sweaty tryhards. The main difference between the two is their age.
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>>741919265
>gameplay
5 > 4 > 2 > 1 > 3
>writing
4 = 3 > 1 > 2 > 5
>ost
3 > 2 = 4 > 5 = 1
>villain
3 > 2 > 5 > 1 > 4
>schizoboss
2 > 4 > 3 = 1 > 5
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>>741919481
I can understand being vague about other things but not explaining shit about Asgore was annoying.
We didn't really learn anything we didn't already know.
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>>741919935
I think chapter 6 will be bunker and then chapter 7 will be holiday mansion
Would also make sense based upon on weird route is going
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>>741919971
that's a glove fag
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Why was Susie’s hair on Kris’ bed
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>A mysterious festival begins.
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>>741919369
>>741919480
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>>741918781
She's giving off MAJOR flowey vibes in the WR lake, you don't get like that after some frozen chicken and a thorn.
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>>741919935
same way he is currently and how hussie did before
by not fucking writing most of it
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>>741920042
Why is this goat so fucking gay
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>>741919578
I'm sure most of the people on here were too busy bleeding out their ass to notice, but Noelle basically confessing to Susie that she's suicidal at the end of their date was also pretty fucking nuts
And then playing the Weird Route made it even crazier when she actually fucking does it right there
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>>741918781
>Noelle was the cause of Dess's tragedy (alongside Kris in some manner)
>and will likely go nuts after Rudy kicks the can
>and will become an obstacle to Susie realizing escapism won't save her
>and fucking drowns people when awakened
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>>741920069
I want to rape this creature
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>>741919441
You need to specifically find him in the light world after the first sanctuary, otherwise Susie doesn't know to get him
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>>741920065
susie got midraped by the prophecy's ending and now just lives in the dark world
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>>741920065
What remained of the original Susie, imposter Susie killed her off-screen and forgot to clean up the crime scene before you arrive.
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Question. If you get the ThornRing in Chapter 2 but don't equip it on Noelle, does it stay in your inventory?

Because if it does, does that mean you might be able to immediately equip it on Noelle in Chapter 6 on an Aborted Weird Route and immediately start Snowgraving people
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>>741919265
4>5>2>1>3
https://youtu.be/7f1RK1m7qvc?si=atpsl7r44FxSPsdE&t=196
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>>741920015
Hes still going and announced he's doing an abridged version of the horse movie
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>>741919974
Because Kris is the boss of the TwistedSword route.
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Not enough flower children in this thread
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>>741919938
Why was he acting like a bitch to orange all of the time? Even Susie was feeling a bit uncomfortable from how often it was happening
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>>741918371
Ambient tracks just get sidelined by players as usual, Quiet Glade is fantastic.
https://youtu.be/w55JVwZdjtA
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>>741920069
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>>741920069
i want to have loving sex with this creature and then laugh as she forcibly teaches the game to Seth
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>>741920042
do you have sauce for this artwork? i've had it saved for a while but reverse image search is useless
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>>741919480
Based. 4chan is forever
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TEN FOOT TWENTY THE FLOWER MAN
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>>741919481
Was there really only the two piles of paper to find or did I miss something?
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>>741919868
>>Knight - Actually doesn't fit in for tv theme(neither does Eram/Shadow Mantle)
Knight isn't a secret boss its a forced story fight retard, ERAM fits a TV world because the TV was used to play the games. This is directly talked about by just about everyone, you can even play video games on the TV in the lounge.
Mew Mew is just absurd XDDD so randumb animay pandering and the repeat of a joke we've already done in a chapter that was already obviously jarring for most people.
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>>741920009
There could have been a "you're blue now" gag where the soul turns blue and virtually nothing changes because you're already operating by blue soul platformer mechanics thanks to the feather.
It would have been so easy. I'm convinced Toby did not make this chapter because he did not ever do that when it was RIGHT FUCKING THERE.
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>>741919548
Green is Carol. She keeps feeding everyone and hounding them over their debts to her.
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>>741920065
Subconscious feelings towards Kris
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i didnt do the golden piano puzzle at the start of the dark world side of the chapter now i have to replay the whole thing again just because fuck this shit
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>>741920150
She was a Chapter highlight for me.
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>>741920074
Based lancerGOD. It really shows how many people here never spent time on phpBB forums and can’t just skim comments without updoots to see what’s worth actually enhancing with
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You gave seth the thing kris promised him, right?
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were there any easter eggs with the new castle town piano my ass had no time to be playing around with it
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>>741917657
>the supporting cast (besides Green) doesn't really stand on its own
glad to see i'm not the only one that came out of the chapter finding most of the cast mid, except Green (Aqua and Flowery are aight)
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>>741920170
>Overpowering Seth with aqua to find out what's in they/themselves pants
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>>741920154
I assume after chapter 4, something in him (along with Susie) broke. He so much more angrier in this chapter.
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So you can't kill Flowery? Is it just not possible?
Really thought we'd get some kino Ralsei fireball arc to do so.
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>>741919369
>>741919480
>>741919617
I think for some people it encourages honesty, and for others it encourages dishonesty. I have seen people have both reactions too it and assume its the only logical one.
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>>741920269
Nope
Susie and Ralsei heal him if you attack him
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>>741920127
You do and you can fuse it with the PureCrystal to make a TwistedSword that gives Trance Down. PureCrystal is likely made by fusing all five shadow crystals.
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>>741919868
When you think about it, Jevil and Spamton are the only schizo bosses, Knight is a no-nonsense ruthless killer, Gerson was the soul of a writter possessing a hammer and Mew Mew is literally Undertale's Mad Puppet.
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>>741919846
>Give me my blue soul and cyan soul proper. Where are they, Toby?
Speaking of soul modes, what do you guys think Cyan will do? If we're going by Undertale rules, with it being the "patient" one, I think it could do something like give the soul a recharging barrier that builds whenever you aren't moving.
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>>741920135
>The Third Sanctuary
Still the best track in the entire game.
Chapter 5's only standout was the Weird Route Festival theme.
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>>741920269
Twisted sword will save us
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>>741920069
>>741920150
I got my ass beat a lot this chapter but nothing fucked me up more than this brat, she killed me like five times
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Do Susie/Ralsei revive if you start attacking Flowery when they’re down? Since they heal him otherwise
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>>741919868
Why is Asgore in anime world besides Toby's unrelenting bias for Place, Japan?
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>>741920350
dude parries lmaooo
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>>741920395
Yes, both of them do it. I imagine Susie still does it during the brief moment Ralsei's out of the fight too.
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>>741920395
Well I guess now that I think about it, they’ll automatically revive after a few turns, so you’d have to be able to do enough damage in the first place, which you surely can’t
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Need princess dress Ralsei...
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>>741919392
>Carol is the next victim (assuming she isnt the Knight)
>Susie intends to tell her
>Noelle will be involved
Shit we really are going to the Ice Palace next.
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So why did the start of the dark world resemble chapter 1 despite being in a different location? Is it kris wishing to go back to how the adventure started?
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>>741919578
>Noelle likes Susie because she's "scary"
>Meanwhile Noelle herself would literally skin you alive because she just wants to do something different
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>>741920150
>>741920218
I feel like both her design and Yellow's design must be old as FUCK, since they're most similar to Toby's old sprites from Undertale. Compare them to Seth and see how stylistically different they are.
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>>741909474
>Well that was a load of-
Reblog!
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>>741919938
Hatless Ralsei facesprites somehow keep getting uglier with each new chapter.
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>>741920497
Chapter 1 was Asriel's (ancient) Dark World
Chapter 5 is Asgore's Dark World
Hope this helps
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>Weird Route Noelle was trying to give Susie all of her money because she was planning on killing herself later
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>>741920069
Aqua my beloved, I picked her knife only because she was my favorite.
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>>741920523
The flower gang reminds me of Super Mario World's inconsistent sprite work.
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>>741920497
Because this was the last hurrah for quirky silly Deltarune. Buckle up, kiddo things are gonna get heavy.
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>>741920523
yellow stood out to me straight away as being classic toby jank
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Im not even a lolishitter but it's funny seeing artists trying so hard to not draw aqua was what she clearly is because they dont want to draw a little girl bc it gives them the ick
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Any interesting things in aborted weird route?
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>>741920561
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>>741919697
3 has SWORD
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>>741920561
Kind of sad that for susie that was the most money she ever seen in her life when it probably was about $500
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>>741920186
Knight's where you get the shadow crystal from, ERAM being fought on a tv I guess is your stretch but the character itself isn't themed with the world it's just in it, unlike any of the other bosses

>>741920334
I agree but I think people are upset simply because Mew Mew is less dark than the other bosses

>>741920408
That's a good question, maybe Asgore was always supposed to be a bit Japanesey with his stoic personality but I never really connected that with Japan/Samurai culture, personally. I don't recall him being an anime fan and I don't think gardening or flowers are particularly associated with Japan/Ancient Japan/Anime
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>>741919548
>>741920198
>Green is younger Carol from before things went wrong
I can get behind it.
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>>741920561
>Noelle tries to kill herself
>Tobys braindead retarded idiot suicidal UT yellow standin tries to kill himself multiple times

What was up with this chapter and suicides?
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>>741918685
Damn, I was not expecting that link to be Greg. Thanks for posting, anon.
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>>741919270
>people thought the rape implications of CH4 was hot
>get to CH5 and now we have Noelle raping Kris Implications
>its even hotter
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>>741920654
Prepping you for Kris doing sudoku in ch7
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>>741920620
Noelle will refuse the ferris wheel with Kris telling him you can't tell me what to do anymore
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>>741920497
It's suppose to make you go "remember chapter 1 ???" and then you clap
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>>741919868
Ramb is the Ch. 3 schizo and just happens to not be the fight. Also still fits with your point since he's just a very old power outlet.
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>>741920654
Japanese theme, please understand
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>>741920654
It's Asgore's chapter, after all
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>>741919868
Eram is in a video game (played on tv) doe. Ite a creepypasta video game trope
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>>741920620
>no abort chime, implying it's another weird route
>weird route flag is still triggered, and another flag gets triggered that (so far) only gets used for a few scenes in this chapter
>a few unique cutscenes and dialogue changes
it's mostly the same but it's implied that chapter 6 will be fucked up because you aborted too late
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>>741920350
Maybe cyan soul since it's just inverted red does portal type shit where you can swap between attack layers by pressing Z when you're in cyan-colored bullets.
Maybe you can also swap without the use of cyan bullets, but it'd cost some TP to do so.
Some attacks are just unavoidable unless you switch layers and phase them out of the battle box. Would be neat, I think.
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What the FUCK did they mean by this?
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>>741920668
Greg is sharp as hell when it come to critiques. I found the video really good
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>>741919548
>green is carol
>an ugly down syndrome woman who constantly asks for payment
KEK. Based Asgore
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>>741920683
Always has been
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>>741920537
>Sage in a thread already at 500 posts
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>>741917334
>built up to be so perfect you can't hate him so the player comes to hate him
>in the end you could never hate him
KIIINNNNOOOOOO
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>>741920709
Man Asgore was KINO in Undertale. Easily my favorite character in that game
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wait he fucking
he turned asgore's TV face down

before opening the dark world
LMAAAOOOOO
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>>741919369
It’s the opposite end of the coin. Reddit is one side, we’re the other. Both sides ultimately need each other to function, etc. But this side is the better side to me which is why I spend time here.
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Were there any good threads on release?
I saved two and they both sucked
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>>741920069
Song is so fucking good
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When he says "The Diner" it sounds like vagina hehe
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>>741920561
fuck, dude.
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>>741920620
if you mean the lake scene. notably,
>there is no abort-jingle and the WR variable isnt turned off
>noelle is now meta aware, but is gigacoping about it
>some scenes in the flower world change
we'll likely be able to freeze shit in CH6 since susie's inviting noelle.
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So what is this I'm hearing about Ralsei "transitioning" or accepting it?
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>>741920770
>Spamming PROCEED while Noelle begs for me to say it again and again and again and again
>Starts slow, goes full speed at the end
This was the best allegory of sex in a video game ever, I felt like I was actually having sex with Noelle and reaching a climax when the Screen started to blur and whiteout.
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>>741920620
Kris's title changes to Shattered Rose
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>>741920812
His ass could not handle a second tenna. I would believe he even broke it just to make sure
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>>741919481
just noticed flowerly's face
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>>741920654
Clover got depressed
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>>741920708
>suicide forest
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>>741917943
I'm thinking it probably IS the intended wierd route and the double suicide will just get a "bro that was FUCKED UP" commentary from gaster or whoever
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>>741920890
Actual schizobabble from a gag sequence that has happened every chapter.
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POST YFW
>CHAPTER 6 IS A NOELLE, SUSIE, AND RALSEI ONLY CHAPTER
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It's fine. Surely chapter 6 won't be a filler like the previous chapters...
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>>741920891
>She gets mad if you don't satisfy her by taking too long
Woah it is sex
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>>741920945
Berdly would've live-streamed it so maybe a good thing he didn't join
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>>741917656
literally how did Kris and Susie survive
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>>741920812
what's wrong fat little chud? can't handle tenna 2? too glooby for you?
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I aborted at the lake and it took me to the ice cream before going into the dark world. Are the differences between this and normal route the same as the differences between normal route and chapter 4 aborted, aside from obviously everything up to the lake scenes?
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>>741920641
>likes gardening
>teafag
>commits sudoku in at least one ending
The hints were there all along, sorta.
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>>741920965

FUAAAARK!! NO!!!
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>>741920965
Seems kind of obvious. I mean the secret boss was literally about the soul and body not getting along and Kris is pretty much dying without you in him
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>>741920965
I didn't even know that could happen
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>>741919498
istg at some point near the end one of them literally refers to susie as a human and she doesnt correct them
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Why did Noelle want to pay up all of the Susie shit in the weird route but didnt do that in the normal route? Cheapstake.
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>>741920964
Explain why his pronouns changed in the menu. It used to say "he" now it says "they", this is an intentional change.
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>>741920965
I really think something like this might be the endgame

Kris being written out of existence and then Susie having to remember over the next timeloop
"Don't forget"
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>>741921065
Giving her cash away because she was going to suicide/leave the world with you
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So do you think chapter 6 and 7 are going to be bundled together or be released separately?
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>>741920218
Honestly same, when I saw her I knew she was gonna be a fan favorite.
The porn is going to be SO good.
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>>741920965
>Normal route
The most obnoxious yurishit imaginable + Ralsei copery
>Aborted weird route
Noelle can kill / freeze enemies, might redeem it
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>chapter 6 will be the festival again, but stretched out for a whole dark world chapter
I would genuinely stop playing. What a fucking nightmare.
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>>741920965
>kris completely despairs out and gives up his soul, letting himself slowly die and disappear
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>>741920965
>she gets moments where she still talks to the Soul directly to the screen at times in the Weird route
>she'll follow your orders like it was Kris giving them out in the Weird route without questioning them
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>>741920870
I honestly don't know how to even interpret what happened
Did the timeline just snap back? Did Noelle somehow pass or peek into the "other side?"
Did she literally just get cold feet, drag us back on shore, and leave?
We've said it before but there's NO WAY she can just go back to normal after this, right?
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>>741921118
Separate, but I think both will be released next year.
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>Guys why is yellow suicidal
Come on now
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>>741920734
You'll understand when it happens
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>>741921179
>expecting /v/ to play videogames
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>>741921179
INCREDIBLY PATHETIC
AMAZING MAN
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>>741921118
Considering the WR in this chapter, I really do.
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>>741920812
have to make sure its about the flowers.
keep in mind that tenna COMPLETELY overtook the dreemurr house dark world.
dont want that to happen again when its supposed to be the flowers in charge this time.
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>>741921159
I think the important part about is that she KNOWS she has the power now. Maybe there's some variant where she'll just be schizo by herself knowing she doesn't need you. Or maybe you can re weird it and just go back into it in ch6
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>>741921159
Sans gave you an escape rope from earthbound/gaster reset the room like if you die to a boss
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>>741919938
he literally looks like a chud
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>>741909532
holy fucking kino hackby could never
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>>741921159
Deltarune program autoloaded the last SAVE because your determination wasn't strong enough to PROCEED or because of direct involvement from Gaster
But the game glitched out and some things carried through (Noelle's knowledge, your hair being wet)
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>>741921179
Tung tung sahur?
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>>741921250
I expected them to watch a mother 3 long play at some point
Lel
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>>741919938
>DO YOU GET IT YET?? YOU'RE WRONG FOR LIKING HAT RALSEI!!
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>>741921159
it's snapping back.
think of the game world like a rubber band. kris and noelle pushing outside the boundaries of the world is stretching the band, and if you don't proceed hard enough then it snaps back into place violently so you get the aborted route. but if you proceed hard enough, then it just breaks in half and the two of you escape.
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Wait are people actually getting filtered by Flower Man
The only hard part about that fight was the fucking goddamn LAG holy shit stop raping Gamemaker Toby.
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I was rechecking that awful scene
>spending time with you makes my days better
Holy fuck Susie you have no fucking appreciation for Kris at all, what the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>741920734
>Onion-san was cut up and served as food

>Dess was cut up and dumped into the lake
>Sunk into the dark world of the depths before dusting

>Undefined objects are labeled as EGG by error handler
>The eggs are symbolizing her body parts
>There are now 6 eggs including that one (arm, arm, leg, leg, torso, head)

THROW AWAY MY MEDS
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>>741921347
Meds.
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>>741920000
quads of truth
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>>741921159
>Nothing changed
>Nothing changed
>Nothing changed
>Nothing changed
>Because a Noelle
>Is just a Noelle
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Anyone else felt any interest in this game's story dropped immensely after this chapter? Especially with there being 2 chapters left to tie up a good amount of hanging plot lines, and considering chapter 6 will start in the light world, it's looking bleak.
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>>741921398
anon toby has not been subtle about how much people preferring hat ralsei pisses him off, this chapter reinforced that ten-fold
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>>741921397
>Exodia Theory
that’s a new one
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>>741920734
Reminder the biggest association with eggs is Friend.
Reminder that a Dark World was involved in whatever happened according to Asgore.
Reminder that The children followed the pointed tail.
It was the fucking cat.
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>>741921282
Her dad's gonna die and aborted WR will be her flipping the fuck out and initiating the Roaring to revive him or just wanted to punish the world.
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>>741921427
I think this may have been somewhat inevitable, people were building up Toby as some kind of super genius storytelling mastermind (people always do this shit with episodic fiction they like) and treating every throwaway line like a piece of foreshadowing.

Like this chapter wasn't as good as 3 or 4, but the game isn't ruined by any means
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>>741921462
>NO
>FUCKING
>HAT
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>>741921397
>find her (parts)
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>>741919682
I mean, what alternatives are there?
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>>741921427
People waited a year to get only about 1% more understanding of the overall plot thanks to King Vaguegore. 5 was nice but it just wasn't enough to starve off the wait for 6. And if its not bundled then maybe even 7
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...does us, noelle, or anything being the angel even matter anymore? at this point, I'm not worried about the prophecy anymore, I want everyone to be...fine
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>>741921172
Gamemaker's getting another update soon, no chance that it drops next year.
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>>741918174
What about the Knight?
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>>741921427
I was even fine with the idea of 5 being a bit of a filler chapter if the ending at least kickstarted the endgame.
It really does not look like the game will ascend to apocalyptic stakes like chapter 4 was setting up now.
It will probably be a decent little story but nothing special.
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>>741921397
>onionsan was cut up and became a food item (takoyaki)
>dess was cut up and became a food item (egg)
I don't feel so good...
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>>741919481
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>>741916791
We got a few animations of Tenna surviving against the Knight, now we need full-on sprite battles of Flowery rocking their shit.
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>>741921427
I'm still very interested in seeing where the story goes, but I'll admit my confidence in Toby as a writer is shaken
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>>741921426
>>741921426
>>741921426
Come to my thread, saars.
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>chapter 6 dark world in the hospital, opened to save rudy
>(rudy)knight has the fun gang on the ropes
>but, despite asgore being kidnapped, there was a fresh jar of flowers on his nightstand
>golden flowers
y'all faggots ain't ready for the greatest ENTER east of the pacific
bonus points if he actually says it, out loud
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>>741921397
>The chapter 6 schizoboss is (YOU$
) after all the WAITing
BRAVO
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>>741921427
There was never going to be any explanation of Gaster
The story was always going to be "an ancient evil awakens" played completely straight
The Knight will be a hometowner with a reasonable and understandable motivation that can be solved with the power of friendship
There will be an everybody laughs ending
You will never be a woman
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still can't believe Queen is canonically an incestfag.
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>>741921609
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>>741921553
Noelle mentioned wings and flying so maybe it's a ch 7b thing
If weird route in ch 7 is so huge it is "side b" then jfc we may be getting 8 chapters after all
Or im just reading into it and its not anything more extensive than ch 2's
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>>741921545
The only concrete stuff we really got was the weird route proving that yes, this is once again a meta narrative about an endless loop of replaying the same game and trying to change it, the same narrative that was in the background of undertale
Good if you're an autist who wants to spend the next 2 years theorycrafting while you WAIT, but does absolutely nothing for the main story of the game
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EGGvidence
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>>741921681
7B will be a 5 minute cutscene of her destroying the world lmao.
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Flowery would had curbstomped the knight if he hadn't used all of his energy and the Omega Flowery form on the fun gang
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>>741921681
Side B is just the formal name for weird route in the code
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>>741921704
It's probably going to be 1 year. He cut content for this chapter pretty obviously, and if he's willing to do stuff like that it should be pretty easy to keep to the production schedule for a game this simple.
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HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO HANDLE THIS ATTACK
FUCK THIS SHIT
LITERALLY GO WITH NO HITS THEN LOSE ALL MY HP FROM ONE ATTACK
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Is there porn... of aqua?
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>>741921531
>Misao 2.0
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>>741921773
don't worry you can get raped in the ass by it every time and still beat the encounter. thats what i did anyway
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>>741921773
i simply move around a lot and hope i dont get hit
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>>741921159
Susie will invite Noelle to the dark world on either route. Noelle can use snowgrave and ice magic to kill shit even after CH5 "cancelled" weird route. It stands to reason she'll snap when confronted with everyone else telling her to ACT and play by the rules when she still knows in her heart that Kris can tell her to PROCEED when everyone else tries their fun gang happy go lucky shit.
She's had a taste of what she wants, and she wants more so badly she's willing to walk backwards into a cold lake based on nothing but Kris's words. The moment she starts freezing shit again its so over for ralsei's gay little pacifist fantasy.
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>>741921773
Stand diagonally to all the bombs but that is much easier said than done
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>>741920734
the vagueposting will never end
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>>741921580
No way it doesn't happen in 6 now, with 7 being heavily implied to be something very weird entirely be it side A or B.
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>>741921773
>the super attack that covers everything but one spot is easy
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>>741921773
>he can't play bomberman
Sad!
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>>741921773
literally every attack was kind of bullshit. the quad bomb especially.
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At this point in time you shouldnt be asking what the eggs mean.
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>>741921893
>with 7 being heavily implied to be something very weird
Lol!



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