>We NEED your help Star fox!>Andross has declared war!You really can't beat the original voice acting
>>742029847Brevity is a lost art.
>>742029847Are you gonna listen to that Dog?
>>742030432Why is falco so racist?
>You really can't beat the original voice actingI think it's just the new VAs are just hilariously bad and don't even deliver their lines appropriately. Especially the bosses who are dying
>>742031572This, but also it's this>>742030324There are too many unnecessary added lines. Half the game time is a fucking movie now, and since the characterization and dialogue is atrocious, it highlights how bad the voice acting is.Speaking of which, why come nobody ever mentions the voice CASTING and DIRECTOR? The VAs might be bad, but somebody cast them, and then sat in a booth and directed them. This faggot shit starts at the top.
I’m on my way to McDonalds
This seems pretty cheap for saving the galaxy
Does shooting down Slippy on Sector X automatically make you go to Titania or do you have to sit on the boss for a few minutes? They removed the ability to go to Titania if you earned Sector Z or MacBeth and I have medels to grind for.
>>742031936Why does Fox sign shit with his paw (foot) print?
>>742031956it's always waiting like a minute or so in the second phase of that robot boss, even on N64
>>742031758It feels like everyone is just too scared to go for it and I think that's on both the director and the actors. Everyone should be hamming it up, everyone should be screaming their lungs out, everyone should be having fun. It's Star Fox for fuck's sake.
why did they cut the monkey part
>DONATU PARUTEE JUSTO YETTUARAS, I DIE HONURRABRY
>>742032072I sat on the first phase for 5 minutes on my first remake run to make myself do the bad ending so will sit on second phase when I do Titania medal hunting.
>>742032223it's racist
>>742031758There is absolutely some level of fault with the voice directors. The Saurmarine pilot and forever train conductor are voiced by the same guy and even if the Saurmarine pilot isn't the best performance its still much better than his performance as the conductor (and like the only one in game to actually TRY and do an accent).
>>742032284But the bad guy is a monkey…
>>742032335I feel like at some point the shitty American voice acting directors got it stuck in their craw that accents are bad and everyone sticks to General American.
its so sad, the game is a joy to play and the new visuals gives it a satisfying sense of speed I didn't really feel in the original. The voice direction almost went out of its way to be as bland as possible
>>742032159Nintendo is a AAA company. They should be getting the best in the business, but they somehow still treat their dubs even worse than 4Kids. Not even obscure old anime games got worse dubs than modern Nintendo. OOT Remake is going to be a cringeworthy mess. Princess Ruto will sound like a 40 year old chainsmoker with 10 tatts. And language options? LMAO
>>742032390i know that.it's like calling a human "human".it's not racist at all, but they connect it with "calling a black person a nigger". at least that's what i believe.otherwise, why else would they remove that specific line?
>>742030624It's a trait many residents of the Lylat system share due to the history of the system itself and its lax laws on the topic.
Game has the tone and atmosphere (and voice acting) of Paw Patrol.
>>742032596It's kinda fucked up the one racist line to make it to the remake was fucking Andrew's froggie one. I guess his racism is on another level.
>>742032775Once again Andrew gets special nepotism treatment
>>742032775frogs are not being associated with apes(who are most commonly seen as blacks)
>>742032775Even in our post-racial society, Anglos still hate the French.
>>742032870They are however associated with the French. Which is ok, nobody likes them.
>>742032870>it's okay to be xenophobic towards the frenchbased
>>742032775Well they added a few because Peppy now calls Pigma "swine" multiple times.
>>742032925>>742032921exactly
>>742032936That was in the OG
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DESTROY EVERY VULNABLE PART OF THE GRANGA IN CORNARIA'S CHALLENGE MODE? I keep trying and it just dies to fast.
>>742032390
>>742033067OG Peppy never reacts to Star Wolf.
>>742033171He only takes damage from his back so just don't shoot him in the back.
Speaking of Andrew, man it's weird to see how much his nose has shrank over the various games.
>>742032159And you also got morons trying to gaslight people by going "oh this new game is more true to the Japanese version of 64 and that's why it's so subdued and not over the top".Meanwhile JP SF64 is often MORE over the top than the English dub.
>>742032596>can't you translate Falco>come on talk some sense into it or something WTF Slippy?!
>>742029847>like 12+ vtuber heads of cast>no further unlockables in Battle ModeBill, Katt, Yaru and some the boss dudes would have been nice for further selection padding on teams
>>742032596>Out of all these examples, the most racist one is Slippy telling Falco to talk to the bird thing.
Fox! That's on of ours!
>>742033431Falco even calls him out on it and he keeps doing it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaJLzlN6thY
Most of the voices are at best serviceable but man… what the fuck did they do to Leon? Bloody terrible
>>742033297I meant the word Swine
The voice acting was great, snoy schizos are poor.
>>742033534>make a racist statement >get called out for it>double downWho knew Slippy was so based...
>>742033635Leon's VA is one of the best ones, whats your problem?
>>742033694>tripfag has no tastefigures.
The voice acting is insanely bad in the remake. How the fuck is modern voice acting so bad? Most games for the last 6 or 7 years have had really bad voice acting. You either get cringey anime weeb voice acting or you get flat wooden voice acting. Its very rare these days for a game to actually have memorable good voice acting.
Spyborg sounds like Pat from SNL now.https://youtu.be/cH7orJ1AwEk?t=316
>>742033882I wanted an interactive Star Fox movie with lengthy and complex gameplay, and I got exactly what I wanted.I got a Star Fox for ME.Remember when I said I wanted a Star Fox for me, before the game was announced?I got what I wanted.I won this one.
>>742033791My problem is sounds literally nothing like the original voice he had. It’s generic as fuck too
>>742034050>Remember when I saidI have no idea who you are
>>742034070Other Anons know.
I wonder how much of this sort of shit voice acting is down to the voice acting director. Because the Remake of FF7 Crisis Core had terrible voice acting but some of the characters in the game are voiced by the exact same people in Remake or Rebirth and they sound much better in Remake or Rebirth than they do in Crisis Core Remake and the only difference is that the voice acting director was a different person for Crisis Core Remake than it was for FF7 Remake and Rebirth.
>>742033367Seriously, I played SF64 with the Japanese dub recently and Peppy is angry as hell
>>742033791Why do you think that? He sounds weak and ineffectual to me, compared to his 64 voice which was suave and professional sounding.
You can't recreate the kino voice acting of that time.People weren't afraid to hire literal nobdies and take a colossal chance. The guy who did pepper probably only read his granddaughter bedtime stories before doing Vidya acting. The people who are saying the voice acting is bad are wrong though. It's really not. It's just safe. VERY safe.Trying to recreate 64 isnt the answer either though because you'd definitely over shoot.
>>742034050anon, it's an on rail arcade shooter and nothing has changed.giving it extra fluff like the cutscenes didn't make it any better, it got worse.
>>742034050>Remember when I said I wanted a Star Fox for me, before the game was announced?Why would anyone remember what you say?
>>742033791The vibe is completely wrong. In the original he sounds like a haughty professional. In the remake he sounds like a generic scheming cartoon lizard.
Its because Californian's are bad at voice acting and all lazy retards.
>>742032596>A fox... taking orders from a dog. Is that really how you want to live your life, boy?Damn, that's actually a cool line. But I think that's a line like that would get adjusted cause of the "boy" part. Katt in the remake avoids any way to call herself a girl. When falco gets upset when you first meet Katt it goes from>Is that anyway to treat a girl?to>I just wanted to check out your gang.
>>742034418shit, wrong linkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chKqZv9ADbA
>>742033347Will try. Switched to knocking out Boise challenges for now.Can you earn medals in Challenge mode?
>>742034569No,
>>742033635Playing with the different languages, the french version really goes all out with Leon. It isn't the chill professional vibe like the n64 one, but it's funny how he went out to make it sounds more "lizard-like" in the remake, even giving it a lisp.
Lol>>742034647Jesus Christ, what the fuck were they thinking?
https://youtu.be/IH8POc5iS_I
>>742034752Dunking on Andrew is the universal language.
>>742034231It did make it better, though.I actually played Star Fox 64 last night, and it felt like there was stuff missing that made the experience feel... a bit empty.I understand that everyone enjoyed Star Fox 64 because it is a good game by itself.However, I struggled on Corneria in Star Fox 64 because the graphics were of lower quality, so the enemies were harder to aim at, there wasn't an option to invert the y-axis, and I kept forgetting that it wasn't inverted while aiming the laser, and the controls were more stiff, making it more difficult to turn around quickly during the Corneria boss.When I played Star Fox 2026, the controls were accessible, and easier to get a hang of.Every time I beat a mission, I smiled as I watched all of the Star Fox characters congratulate eachother, and I enjoyed looking at the beautiful visuals.
I didn't expect a run to be so short. Are the other starfox games just as short or are they longer?
>>742034251Well the 4 snoy schizos love to go back and take my previous words out of context, twist them, and then weaponize them against me.
>>742034854The way he says "breaks" gives me the impression that he's literally hitting the breaks as he said that. It's insane how lifeless this sounds in the remake.
>Haven't played 64 in ages but figured I'd be able to breeze through this>Getting absolutely filtered by GorgonI feel like such a pathetic schlub right now.
>>742035131It's just as long as 64.
>>742033367I wonder how Japanese Andross is handled/went over. Daisuke Gori played him almost emotionless, so that the anger in his final line would really come out by comparison. The angrier, shouting Andross the remake has is the complete opposite of that.
>>742032048you dont sign stuff with your foot? bro...
>>742035373I know I'm asking about any of the others.
>>742031572>>742031758>>742032159>>742032335>>742034004What is this new cope that the voice acting is "bad"? Is that how you spin the usual NDS since this game is actually good gameplay-wise? Gripe about the voice acting as if you don't listen to everything in JP anyway? Do they make you "people" on an assembly line?
>>742034460I wouldn't be surprised if some power tripping blue-hair either at the studio or a consultancy firm insisted that they not have Katt's gender ever brought up because their headcanon is that Katt is nonbinary.
>>742034272Professional Leon was a localization original just like Bond villain Wolf. He was always meant to be a sadistic dirtbag.
>>742035694I wouldn't be surprised if you're schizophrenic
>>742035734Sometimes the localization is better.
Why did they even let him in the Wolfen II?
The voices aren’t bad. They’re just soulless. There’s no twang or cockiness to anything. Compare the DONT PARTY JUST YET to the original. It’s so bland because they basically said “yeah just talk normal” vs GET COCKY AND SMUG
>>742035830See>>742034752Thus Andrew was kicked out the second Andross was defeated.
>>742035574The games are short. I think the only "long" campaign is Adventures
>>742035734Liar.
>>742031758This is a full on corporate-level Nintendo problem.Any Voice Actor that's worth their salt joins the Union. Nintendo refuses to play ball with unions nowadays, so they're stuck with literal-whos and youtubers.It's why we'll never see a Kid Icarus Uprising remake, unless it's personally handled by Sakurai. He hired Union workers, and Nintendo won't go back to them on their own.
>>742034854STEP ON THE GYAS
>>742034460>Damn, that's actually a cool line. But I think that's a line like that would get adjusted cause of the "boy" part.That one's from Star Fox Zero.
>>742035830He is the definition of a nepobaby. His dad hired Star Wolf and his crew. To keep the boss happy, Wolf took his son as a crew member.
>>742036009I meant if that line were to ever come back, the gender part would be removed.
>>742032596here's your culprit
>mass reply meltdown
>>742035734He has the exact same professional way of speaking in Japanese
>Voice acting from the 90s is better than 2026Grim
>>742033635They made him like how he is in Assault and Command. I miss the posh voice but I guess I'm okay with this for continuity's sake
>>742036049I mean considering the lore it was also mandatory to have him as a crew member to be kept supplied and well paid
>>742036116>hot wheels>larry boybased
>>742036116Kek.I love it.
>>742036156>>742035936He does not talk like a professional. He's just arrogant. Outside his ego, his main thing is being sadistic.
>>742033635There's no testosterone left in the american VA industry.
>>742035072>a tripfag is retarded and has shitty opinionsI have never been less surprised.
>>742036324leon's polish?! kurwa
>>742036324I mean, he literally says "I think I'll torture you for a bit" in the English 64. Seems like consistent characterization.
To me the new voice acting is a mixed bag of good and bad deliveries. Most of the bad lines are the mid combat stuff, the cutscene lines seem mostly fine. The only standout bad casting to me is making ROB gay sounding for whatrver reason. Let's be real though, pretty much every single line of 64's OG dub is legendary. They were never going to live up to it.
>>742034854i can't STOP IIEEET!!
>>742036242That's what I was referring to.
>>742036324Forgot to mention that if the localizers of the 90s had this guidebook back then,we never would've gotten some of the voice direction that became legendary, yet out of step with later continuity.>>742036394Remake Leon is still sadistic. Boasting about how Andross doesn't mind if he makes a mess and talking about plucking Falco's feathers.
>>742029847>>742031572nah, the uncompressed VA of the original is fucking excellent.
>>742030324They added more words to lines that didn't need it.They removed nuances of sarcasm and anger, so characters can be more bland and straight forward.They changed some tones entirely, to remove tension and energy from scenes with dumb Marvel quips.In doing so, they made it more sterile, and less memorable.
>>742036373No I'm not.My opinions are good.
I hope the remake does well enough for them to do Star Fox 2. It'd be nice to play it at more than 12FPS.
>>742036049>Wolf took his sonConfirmed as never played the game.>UNCLE ANDROSS!
>monkey clan so blindly loyal to their tribe they support a genocidal maniac simply for also being a monkeyBiting social commentary
>>742036926>Andross built a secret remote base on an inhospitable planet to rally his forcesHey, I’ve seen this one!
>>742036840Son/Uncle, same difference. Surprised it took so long for someone to notice.
>>742036713If they did remake SF2 they'd probably remove permadeath.
>>742037085there should be permadeath to punish shit players
>>742036926I think his army were already criminals in the past
Doing a Medal clean up run. Going from Sector Y to Titania will be an increasing decrease in competence.
>>742037359The monkeys being career criminals is also funny.
>>742036926I dont even understand how there could be andross sympathizers. The guy got the death penalty but literally was spared with life in prison.To join andross meant to join his shithole which after many years still doesn't sustain a single conventional city. Maybe the lore makes more sense if andross managed a prison break on a space ship full of monkies or something, giving them a chance at revenge on corneria
>>742032048Retarded westerners and their paw fetish, consistency and worldbuilding be damned
>>742036373>anon has shit opinion"fuck off retard">tripfag has shit opinion"REEEE TRIPFAG REEEEEEEEEEE"What is it about the tripfag that makes the anon upsetti spaghetti?
Yes, everyone was losing their shit about the character designs, but the voices were off from the get-go. They sound like typical "anime" voice actors. Not bad, but not nearly as iconic as the old crew.
>get a cool yet realistic robot voice in the og game>they kept it for the 3ds remake>now he got a faggy brocoly hair intern voiceBiggest character destruction to ever happen in vidia history.....
>>742037581Andross actually made Venom worse. It wasn't so toxic until after he showed up. As for why he has sympathizers? He was once well respected in Corneria. Maybe he spun some crap about how those mangy mutts of Corneria didn't like to see an ape like him be successful and framed him?
>>742031936>This seems pretty cheap for saving the galaxyThe game takes place pre-Biden.
>>742037670Because 4chan is meant to be anony.ous. Being anonymous means that you have no "reputation" built up, and thus your posts are judged entirely by their own merits and not based on any kind of posting history. By giving yourself a trip, you are attempting to establish yourself as a "character" on the board. It's faggot narcissist behavior.
>>742037721Every character is>*Iconic VA performance*>*Recreate it in the 3DS remake*>*Bring back all the original voice cast for Zero*>Completely fuck it all up in the third remakeLike actually how
>>742029847>made by literal indian dev teamlmao
>>742037745Andross basically set off a nuke on Corneria and killed a fuck ton of people. It would have to be one hell of a spin job for anyone to actually fall for it.
>>742036538>Remake Leon is still sadistic.Him being sadistic or not isn't really what people are referring too I think. One of the most jarring things about Leon is his demeanor and appearance from after 64 to assault and onwards. Like an anon said, it was because the English was never given actual direction for how they should be voicing the characters so they just made shit up, but in Leon's case it was a real whiplash from him being a pompous, egotistical snob in 64, to him being to him becoming a maniacal, over trigger happy, creep. Did the remake choose the snob version or the maniac version of him?
>>742037985Just say he didn't do it. Say it was Pepper and he set up a frame job. Modern politics have shown you can get far just by never admitting fault and having an alternative story you claim is the truth.>>742037989Maniac. Fox even calls him a creep now if you shoot him down yourself.
Every character in the new Star Fox 64 re-remake got the anime dub treatment.Only anime dub watchers would think that's a good thing.
>>742037985I think DA LORE in the new game admits that the toxic atmosphere COULD be due geographical changes and not AndrossI kinda suspect it is something like this,.>Andross Illegal Bioweapon is revealed and runs amok on Corneria.>Gets foisted full responisbillity.>EXECUTE HIM!>Pepper argues for Banishment to a then Non-Toxic Venom.>Option A: Venom has Ecological Disaster and the Atmosphere becomes Toxic.>Option B: Andross, still doing mad Science, causes the Toxic Atmosphere.>Regardless: Andross spins himself as working on fixing the Atmosphere.>Venomians rally behind him and Krystal gets fuel for her stupid "ANDROSS DID NOTHING WRONG!" line.I think the interesting thing her is actually how things are more blatant with Lylat just being the system and the conflict seemingly being isolated to it while still affirming there is a whole Galaxy with players outside it where Corneria still has a presence, the Galaxy at large probably doesn't give a fuck and just see this as a Civil War.
>>742030324It's lost everywhere. Been playing through Adventures of Elliot. Gameplay-wise, it's a great Zelda/Ys/whatever clone. But the story tries to be way overly theatrical and narrative heavy when it's a basic world. They didn't understand that something like Links Awakening had just enough story to match the world.
>>742038643To be fair, many JRPGs always had a problem with dialogue going on and on and on and on..
Got the Titania medal now I never need to let Slippy die again unless I can be bothered with Expert mode medals.
Venom 1 seems impossible to medal if you don't enter with a fuck ton of bombs so will have to run easy end again saving them and thus not getting medals.
>>742039290You can do it with judy 3. You just have to spam a lot of charge lasers without lockon and get splash points.
>>742036713slippy looks like he goons on company time
>>742037745Lizard people were on Venom. Probably came off like Cortes to Aztecs, but had them under his thumb. For the others, he had many connections before exile, he probably had NGOs or his staff secretly keep him funded. With that, he got mercenaries, and anti-dog monkeys. I think they took control of the Corporations of Macbeth, which built him his army.
>>742037721>>742037971Who got it worse: Shogun or Forever Train
>>742039290If you want to get to Venom 1 with bombs you can always farm them on Sarumarine and then just choose to go to Venom 1 from either Sector Z or Macbeth.
>>742040040Shogun. The conductor at least kept his personality.
>>742040040Neither is good, but it depends on whether you hate the bad voice direction of the engineer or them completely rewriting the shoguns personality.
>>742040095I might. I have the Titania medal now so I was going to do the middle route going to Boise from MacBeth to see if I can get those medels without bombs first. If not then do that since that will let me see Katt help on Macbeth for once.
>>742029847The worst example is when you beat Corneria with a mission accomplished rank. The boss asks "Who are you guys?!" and Fox responds with "We're Star Fox" in the original but the new version is completely soulless and lacks any punch.
>>742040040>>742040242>>742040246Shogun is fucking terrible. "An honorable defeat..." or whatever. I just stared at my Switch with disappointment.
>>742040294The ending having Peppy and Fox throw in an extra "you know, your father would be proud of you today. VERY proud."/"I know" is worse. It both undercuts the already there "...Nothing. Nothing's wrong" and is literally repeating what the escape sequence already said barely a minute ago.
>>742041498I think the idea was that after spending all game being against comparisons with his dad (Calling James's time with Star Fox ancient history and saying "some help it did him" when Peppy says Fox has his father's instincts), Fox finally accepts Peppy's words as the compliments they were meant to be.
>>742041498I don't like how Star Wolf doesn't have their cybernetic enhancements on Venom, either.>>742041918I did appreciate the character development, somewhat. Falco had similar lines with Fox that culminated with him finally believing in Fox at the end, calling him "the real deal"
>>742042038>I don't like how Star Wolf doesn't have their cybernetic enhancements on Venom, either.They do but only if you take the deliberate route of beating them in Fichina, then going to Venom through Area 6 afterwards. If Venom 2 is the first time you fight them they won't have them. Also they replaced Andrew's visor with a neckbrace to show how much of a bitch he is.
>>742042038Star Wolf no longer has cybernetic enhancements. They are just bandages, prosthetics, and braces. And they only get them if you beat them in Fichina first, and then take a path to Venom 2.
>>742042236>>742042426Oh, that makes sense. I only played through the hard route so far.>The braceKek, Andrew just can't catch a break.
>>742030432>>742029847>>742031572I think it's that we replayed 64 over and over so much that those lines are burnt into our brains, so if they're out of pitch or tone its because they don't line up in our brain.
Cute
>>742042763lol, I appreciated that when I was playing through Aquas for the first time
>>742042426Leon and Pigma's certainly look cybernetic. Not as much as 64's though for sure.
>>742042426Wolf, Leon and Pigma are all pretty much exactly how they looked in the N64 version. Wolf didn't have any enhancements, only two bandages. Leon had the same single eye visor. Pigma had some metal parts on the top and sides of his head. Andrew the only one who looks different, in the N64 he had a visor which looks a lot like the top part of his braces.
How hard would it be for them to add a classic mode that has the old N64 style stage intros and uses the old voice lines?
>>742042763>109 hitsYou gotta pump those numbers up, anon.
>>742035830There’s a new line where wolf says something like>”COVER ANDREW, BOYS. WE KNOW WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM”
>>742042904I will eventually. Might to hard up to Zoness then switch to MacBath to see Katt helping there.
>>742043034Yup I heard it. Pretty funny. I do like how a lot of the lore from manuals and player guides were added to the game.
I'm actually pleasantly surprised. I mainly go on other boards but I decided to come on /v/ to talk about this game and it's nice to see that most of the discussion is on topic. No one is getting called a "Switchsnoy" or whatever retarded buzzword if they criticize the game, which it definitely deserves, even if I enjoy it. The voices and lack of feedback when shooting something are my biggest complaints, and I see I'm not the only one with issues regarding the voice acting.>>742043079Remember that you have infinite torpedoes and that the columns of the ruins count as hits.
>>742042687nah the macbeth train boss is such a massive downgrade compared to n64 version.
Landmaster sections are ass
>>742043283I don't even think it's that because sound effects and music just don't sound like the n64 game either. Its like listening to the Mario 64 - Mario Kart World music. My brain does not respond like the original.
>>742043384faithful to the original
>>742043148It's unfortunate because the main cast does have decent sounding voice actors, but the direction just kinda sucks. They needed an improved script and to put more emotion in delivering a few lines.The villains is where things really go to shit, it's full of bad voice actors and bad directing. Some motherfuckers are supposed to be extra hammy to be memorable.
>>742043542If I had to guess, the voice director was probably afraid of the new cast doing bad impressions of the N64 dub. So they intentionally directed them to do takes that sounded more distant than the N64 one.It did happen before with Star Fox 3DS where they brought a lot of the actors back just to read the same lines and they couldn't match their prior selves.
>>742043148/v/ is somehow one of the better places to discuss Nintendo. All my Discord servers are full of people who throw a tism fit if you mention Nintendo because Palworld and the anti-hack stuff means they brick your Switch 2 if it decides it doesn't like the way you blinked at it.
>>742043542The voice acting isn't bad, it just isn't as impactful as the original. And yeah, I agree that the cheesiness being removed definitely impacted some scenes.>>742043820I also think it was to appeal to a new generation of fans which don't have the nostalgia for the original.>>742043980That's not what I've seen. I'm on PC and Nintendo and I get called a Snoy or Steamie anytime I come on here to praise a PC game or criticize a Nintendo game. I don't even believe there are actual Playstation fans on /v/, since most of them are normalfags playing shit like FIFA or COD.
>>742043820suspect this is the problemthe rest of the game is great so I can forgive the mediocre VA
