Yes, way better

>>742090551
Nowadays yeah, but they're the same series so it's a moot point.

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>>742090551
Better looking girls

Definitely.

>>742090551
Yes, always. Persona is a gay kids spinoff for a reason

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Its so much better!

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>>742090649
i'm looking and am inclined to agree

>A game built around a combat system that allows you to cheese bosses by being smart
>...........
>PERSONA!
>Remove all weaknesses from bosses to enforce a 'cinematic' (45 min) fight

>>742090551
Yeah but not V/VV

Gameplay wise? Yeah sbsolutely. Story wise? Idk, maybe not. But if you don't enjoy dating sims and using vidya as a friend replacement, SMT would be a better suit for you

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SMT is better in every way including waifufagging since the very first game where the Heroine and Yuriko want your penis up to the last which lets you plunge the world into a sea of primordial chaos for you and your Megami to repopulate and shape as you wish.
Persona is all Jungian queer garbage. I hate Jung.

>>742090551
Yes.

>>742090649
I hate Tao
>>742091167
And I hate Yoko
That's why I prefer CoC

persona is like transitioned smt

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>>742090551
Depends on what you're looking for in a game. When I told anons I really liked The Answer they called me a retard and pointed me towards Nocturne. Never played Persona again after that.

>>742090551
Persona is SMT for kids

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>>742090551
They aim at different things. I can't call one better than the other because they scratch different itches.

Now go play Raidou.

>>742090551
Persona is SMT but for redditors

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>>742092432
>Depends on what you're looking for in a game. When I told anons I really liked The Answer they called me a retard and pointed me towards Nocturne. Never played Persona again after that.
That's hilarious. I like 'em both though. Persona for when I want more relaxing gameplay and story focus, SMT for when I want more engaging gameplay.

My kingdom for a Persona with the level of dialog mainline SMT has.

>>742092432
Those people are retards, anon. The Answer is an excellent epilogue.

>>742090551
depends. I think nu-sona is better than SMT4 and 5, though 5 is the peak of combat and team building basically everything else about it is really bad. Classic SMT is top notch dungeon crawling though, and on that front beats out the Nu-sonas, which has pretty lackluster dungeons. Persona 5's palaces are a step in the right direction, though it was also a step in the wrong direction in terms of combat difficulty and balance. 5R and the PS2sona remakes only seem to reinforce it sadly. I won't speak on Metaphor because I have not played it, still don't trust Atlus to not announce a re-release of the game.

>tl:dr
modern persona better than post PS2 mainline, but mainline up to PS2 better than modern persona

>>742092898
the answer as a story is fine, but P3 dungeon crawling is pretty bland.

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>>742090551
Yes.
Shit Persona is really just an SMT game with extra steps at the end of the day. Persona 1 and 2 are hard proof of that where the negotiation is fucking agony.

Even just by story telling SMT is less about accepting and more about imposing your will on the world and its a more satisfying and honest narrative overall.

Pic unrelated

>>742093112
>P3 dungeon crawling is pretty bland.
That's one of the reasons The Answer is good. It consolidated all the dungeon crawling, progression and gameplay while also increasing the difficulty notably (except for the final boss who was ridiculously weak for some reason). Not that I would say any of the Megaten games that aren't grid based dungeon crawlers had notably good dungeons in the first place, pretty geometry notwithstanding.

>>742090551
SMT community isn't full of larper faggot minors like how Persona is, for one

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>>742090551
Yes

>>742090551
I'm about 7 hours into the game, and holy hell, this might be one of the most boring games I've played in a long time.

I came into this with pretty high expectations. It's an Atlus game, after all, and the Steam reviews are somehow overwhelmingly positive. For context, I've played every Persona game, Tokyo Mirage Session and most of the SMT games on the 3DS, so I'm definitely familiar with Atlus game.

The game starts off strong during the first hour, but once you're transported to the Netherworld, everything starts going downhill. The story? Practically nonexistent. The characters? There are barely any. The side quests? Some of the most boring I've ever seen, just your standard MMO-style fetch quests.

Most people seem to agree that the story isn't the game's strongest point, but they usually say the gameplay makes up for it. Unfortunately, I don't feel that way at all. Even the gameplay feels repetitive and boring. I'm genuinely struggling to find anything positive to say about it.

At this point, it feels like I'm wasting my time. I keep waiting for something interesting to happen, but nothing ever does.

>>742095749
>I have never played any other SMT games but will pretend to have so I can sound authoritative when I dismiss this game

>>742095749
>The game starts off strong during the first hour, but once you're transported to the Netherworld, everything starts going downhill.
It literally doesn't even take that long to get transported there... it's like 20 minutes at most
You just wanted the game to be a high school sim like Persona, didn't you

>>742095598
Feline Fury my beloved.

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>>742095598
sexomata

>>742090551
>better than persona
not really a high bar
but pre-PS2 SMTs are actually good, yes

>>742096063
i want to watch her latex start to balloon out from her defecating inside the suit. it would be a day where she ate way too much Mexican food so she's super backed up with plenty of greasy feces that needs to be evacuated ASAP and she doesnt have time to take off the catsuit, so it stays on and gets filled with shit

>>742090551
From what I played...
SMT 3 - 8.5/10
SMT 4 - 8/10
SMT 4 Apoc. - 7/10
SMT 5 - 9/10
SMT 5V - 9.5/10
SMT SJ - 3/10

Persona 3 - 9/10
Persona 4 - 9.5/10
Persona 5 - 6/10
Persona 5T - 4/10
Persona Q - 9/10
Persona Q2 - DNF, 3/10

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>>742095982
>You just wanted the game to be a high school sim like Persona, didn't you
even trash like Persona is better than SMT and that is saying something

>>742096282
Shit, I forgot...
Soul Hackers - 8.5/10
Soul Hackers 2 - 5/10
TMS#FE - 6.5/10

>>742096282
>>742096523
Why did you skip Devil Survivor games anon? They're pretty good.

>>742090551
They're the same thing

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>>742096895
I don't know, anon. I have no excuse.

>>742096282
>>742096523
Try the Digital Devil Saga games

>>742096523
the disparity between SH and SJ is surprising to me, SJ felt very much like a throwback to SH with the 1st person dungeons, the app-slot system and a good chunk of SH designs being used
what didn't you like about SJ compared to SH?

>>742096282
>4 better than 4a
This ain't it chief. The annoying faggot friends were redeemed because you get to murder all of them.

>>742090551
Yes of course. But Persona is still great.

>>742097405
>banging your head against the wall is redeemed because you stop eventually

I could deal with modern persona's bullshit if they at least tried to make the games themselves a little fun. They've made them so insanely fucking easy even on the hardest difficulty that the actual game play part isn't even fun anymore, it's just filler.

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>>742097496
I don't get who stuff like picrel is even made for
>Game's already piss easy
>Anyways here's one that oneshots everything and everyone

>>742097405
>This ain't it chief.
oof, yikes... let's unpack this

>>742097496
It all went downhill with Persona 3 Portable.

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>>742090649
BETTER LOOKING ENEMIES*

>>742097405
Well, I always kill Isabeau in IV. Does that count?
>>742097153
Will do. One day.
>>742097257
I can't describe, there's just something off with that game. SH1 is easy, probably the easiest SMT game I played, but I absoulutely loved its setting. SJ just felt...bland. Not really related, but I kinda feel the same for Code Veronica, which is my most disliked RE game.
(Just call me a contrarian with no taste and let's move on. You'd save us lot of time.)
Not really related no2, but I'd like to take this opportunity to thank that one anon - assuming he's here - who recommended me The Lost Child few years ago. Yes, it felt more like SH2 than the actual SH2 that we got.

I couldnt get past 3 hours in this shit game. The UI is one of the worst pieces of garbage I have seen, the combat is boring, the characters are ugly, the ost might as well not even be there.
I can see why people stick to Persona and not this soulless saga.

>>742098057
>UI in VV is "one of the worst pieces of garbage I have seen"
>but in modern personas it's ok
Not even going to talk about your "opinions" regarding combat etc. You might be trans and schizoprenic.

>>742098145
P5's UI has been copypasted to oblivion for a reason, people love it.

>>742098145
>You might be trans and schizoprenic.
Or, even worse...a Trails / Kiseki fan.

>>742098145
>first thing that comes to his mind is trans
You may be a faggot, but you are also retarded.

>>742097907
Fair enough, if you don't like it then you don't like it.
>(Just call me a contrarian with no taste and let's move on. You'd save us lot of time.)
I wasn't gonna! Honest!

>>742096282
>>742098057
V gets boring by about midway though the game. Essences kinda ruin it honestly

At its heights, yes. 3, 4, and Strange Journey surpass Persona in basically every regard except OST (but 4's OST slaps) . Narratively, Digital Devil Saga and Devil Survivor are also pretty interesting. Persona 2 duology is worthy of standing alongside the best of SMT narratively, and 3 FES's main story is the right balance of fair yet still challenging.
I think Persona has ruined mainline SMT though because Atlus thinks it can't put a substantial plot in SMT games after the mixed reaction to 4Apoc and #FE. They seem to think a plot-focused SMT game might confuse the consumerbase now that Persona is casual.

I wish Soul Hackers 2 were released on Switch. I think it would be more enjoyable as a handheld game.

>>742090551
Yes but Nocturne is an overrated brown dogshit for posers.

>>742090551
Depends what you are in for, especially these days where Persona gone all in on the 3 formula. I think i prefer SMT personally because it gets more out there and shows how people can have good intentions but get twisted by ideology and biases to a point friends and coworkers start killing eachother without more then a passing thought, but i can understand why people like Persona.

The same goes for gameplay systems and shit, like im not too bothered by RNG Inheriting these days cause i see it as a choice to be made "Do i reroll for the perfect demon that i will replace eventually anyway, or will i settle for this one that got everything but one thing right?" It gives friction. But it isn't like there is that much difference these days with Manual inheirtence and stuff like the Skillcards/Forma/Essence systems.

Dungeons and bosses are also a game to game thing.

I can say this at least, i get more of a itch to replay VV then i get P5R.

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>>742090551
Superior combat system and OST, but I still think the story is dogshit and the level designs could be way better
That being said, I still prefer SMT over Persona
https://youtu.be/i6qA_dG_q5M?si=yaqMGh_WWp7EiDTZ

>>742090551
i generally like smt more but the thing i like about persona more is that you dont constantly have to change around your party since party members are limited to one persona, you just have to manage your own. replaying smt games, especially on the hardest difficulty, is a fucking hassle sometimes having to keep up with all your demons

>>742090551
you can't date schoolgirls in it, so less than a tenth the number of people have even bothered to try them to find out

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>>742101374
but that's the fun part

I got bored of SMTV in 30 hours whereas I got bored of Persona 3 and 4 in like 7 hours each. So it's something of an improvement.

>>742101471
Most SMT games are 50+ hours long, which means I usually will play them in 10 hour bursts with a year inbetween because my brain is dopamine slagged. It makes it a real bitch and a half to return to an SMT game because I have to reacquaint myself with the demons I'm using and figure out what needs replacing. It's my fault, but also a pain in the dick in the same way as getting back on the horse after not going to the gym is. Persona is a bit easier since your demon slots are more limited.

>>742090551
Vengeance definitely has the better OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzejSg9mutw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUngn3mA1jM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCN12wlED60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4EpOvFHFsU

>>742090551
SMT4 is

why do i want to fuck the protag of this game?

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>>742102789
The ugliest tranny shit in the franchise.

>>742102847
YOUNG MAN

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>>742102867

recently i got the urge to play some jrpgs and am thinking of trying smt, probably nocturne

will i like smt if i didn't like p3 remake, kinda liked methaphor, really like old ff (4-10) and e33?

>>742090551
I'll never play Persona because the focus is on human and not demon.

t. demon breeder

>>742103126
probably
p3r sucks, you should have tried p3 fes instead
you should know going into it that nocturne doesn't have much of a story though, maybe try emulating smt 4 if that's what you're looking for

>>742090649
wife

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>>742103126
SMT3 is either the absolute best one, or the absolute worst one depending on who you ask. Personally, I think it's one of the best ones but I don't care much for story and prefer atmosphere and interpretation.

>>742090551
I've played about half of the first SMT, how similar is this to that?

>>742090551
well one is the main franchise of atlus and the other is a spin-off

Does this game have romance options?

DDS > DDS2 > Nocturne > P5 > P4 > SJ > SMTIV > P3 > SMTV

But even SMTV is like an 8/10 and P3, depending on the version you play, a 8-10/10 game. No reason to hate one subseries and fanboy over another, just play them all.

>redditspacing DDSdownie
LMAO!

>>742102857
And Lucifer looking like a tranny is bad why? Are you perhaps a satanist?
Also the artist did cool fetish art of big tiddie animus in leather and belts

>>742106519
>And Lucifer looking like a tranny is bad why?
its lucifer he should look fucking cool

>>742106519
IV had horrendous art in general.

>>742106768
That's it Timmy, I'm telling the preach

>>742106098
To be fair here anon, I'd say that DDS(2) is probably even more beginner friendly then even (Post-2) Persona due the mantra being Point Buy and every party-member but Cielo having ONE weakness (Cause fucking Ailments) and completely cutting Fusion Autism. It is pretty unique in that sense.

>>742105346
it was the first persona i played, but i didn't like the dating sim parts and it just felt boring grinding in the tower and going to school. quit after 15h or so

>>742107045
also, forgot to mention that the combat felt really stupid
find out weakness, mash auto weaknesss target button, do part attack once all knocked down repeat

>>742090551
They're pretty similar, and people tend to vastly overstate the differences in gameplay/complexity and difficulty between the two. The Persona games just spend a lot more time on the plot and characters, while the SMT games generally keep the focus on dungeon crawling.

>>742092432
The Answer gets a lot more hate than it deserves. The plot is largely pointless, but it's a lot of fun to play through.

>>742096127
I like the atmosphere, and they have some cool ideas, but they're kind of tedious to actually play through. I still like them more than Nocturne, though, which is my least favorite entry in the series out of those I've played.

>>742102747
Vengeance has one of my favorite game soundtracks period.

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>>742107125
I meant SMT3: Nocturne.

Though, P3 is really easy, you just do the tower on the first day that makes sense to (usually a non-soul link day is best). I'm not sure if the tower is bugged or I just got lucky on my playthrough, but the staircases were always super close together so I could do the tower without much hassle.

>>742107560
oh sorry i was being a retard
yeah i was thinking trying nocturne since it seems the be the one people mention most

not much story is probably ok if atmosphere is good

>>742090551
I want the sixth one now oh wait games have to take 15 years in between releases now my bad I’ll just wait till 2035 when my dick stops working

>>742090551
is the battle system even a third as fun as EBF5?

>>742090551
Persona is much more character driven, so in that regard it can be considered better than SMT. In terms of themes, both have equal potential to be interesting, with Persona delving into Jungian psychology and SMT focusing more on mythology/the occult and apocalyptic scenarios. The turn based gameplay is about equal, I prefer press turn to the one more system, but they're very similar. Persona's calendar system and social sim elements make it much more story driven than SMT, and it generally has better writing, but SMT can be more interesting, especially the older titles.

>>742108251
>SMT focusing more on mythology/the occult
Persona 6 is theorized to focus on the "occult" tho

>>742108327
I hope so, both Persona and SMT could do a lot more with the occult than they do.

>>742108327
strayed so far from mainline they went full circle back to where they started

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb7hNZ4P-ew

Are there any sexy nuns in SMT ?

>>742109262
Beth, Sister Gabby, and Isabeau I guess

>>742108327
is it gonna be some victorian satanic nonsense or turbo granny and the scissor girl

>>742095749
Story and characters are literally not the focus with this franchise, it’s not even that they tried their best but it was a weak point, it was an afterthought in development.
It’s like complaining the story is bad in something like Minecraft or Euro Truck Simulator

Would you rather have Demifiend or Jack Frost as SMT's rep in the new Smash Bros.?

>>742105959
I just played DDS after bouncing off them for a long time and it was OK. You could really tell the gap between the Yu Godai intelligent premise and Tadashi Satomi convenient slopshit

>>742110064
Nahobino.

>>742108907
ENTER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWFyUoi50gE

>>742110530
Too gay

>>742110626
>>742110530
>>742110064
MARA

>>742096282
What's the best version of P3?

>>742097405
>Nanaki has different, more assertive soinding voice lines when interacting with Dagda after killing his gay friends.
Kino

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Dont mind me posting the best one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt9ulazaeP8

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This part always made me laugh. Calm down bitch

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I wish they made collab demons or demon references to other animes or games. I would love a Rika demon

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>>742110064
Pascal with a COMP.

Im only half kidding, COMP-user or bust.

>>742113019
It's a silly scene but i think it works since it does get Tao off her ass and underlines that Yoko is a freaky edgelord who doesn't halfass.

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For me its Beast of Bloodshed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXcepkcftks
First time I heard it I was blown away. Vengance had one killer OST.

>>742113019
She was more correct here than when she started sperging out about cars

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They had a lot of sexy demons in this game

Finally got around to doing Law route. Tehom is a fucking awesome boss, I like how the gimmick is opposite of Mastema's where you have to exploit her shifting weaknesses or you get punishment.

Running Agi build. It was pretty boring for a lot of the game since you really only get critical slash and Crusher Onslaught for most of the game but damn is Lunar Hurricane and Myriad Slash satisfying

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>>742114398
There's so many Cleo mods, I can't tell which one it is.

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>>742090551
Never played persona but i have 200 hours of SMTVV in the PC version and about that in the first Switch version. So it's an amazing game that warrants a play. Might be my all-time favorite JRPG

>>742096282
Considering you actually enjoy the SMT games you clearly appreciate good gameplay and dungeon crawling so how could you rate Persona 3 and 4 so much higher than 5 even though they have really terrible randomly generated dungeons? I know 5 is a lot easier but just having crafted dungeons and actually good enemy designs makes it so much better
Also why is Strange Journey so low

>>742114887
Yeah I have the same opinion about Persona 5, despite it being piss easy I much prefer detailed dungeons, demons as enemies (instead of random blobs and cubes), and actual demon negotiation

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Where we're going, we don't need cars...

>>742115227
Im happy Vengance said "FUCK NEUTRAL, PICK A SIDE!" for CoV, because it just kept being used as the "correct" choice and undermining the whole mechanic.

>>742096282
Play Devil Survivor 1, it's kino.

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A moment to appreciate this girl here please
My goodness she carried my ass

>>742096282
>SMT SJ - 3/10
Lol, why even include this if you clearly hate blobbers? Bad look to comment on a game genre you don't like in the first place.

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>>742113019
It's so weird how Chiaki's called out for essentially projecting and throwing an existential tantrum that she should just be allowed to do whatever she wants yet Yoko's glazed.

>>742116083
Yoko doesn't come off as an entitled bitch in the same way Chiaki does.
Also (and possible more importantly) she's your party member for like ~70% of the CoV playthrough. And I think people always go easier on party members compared to NPCs.

>>742115976
Persona Q is a blobber, it’s Etrian Odyssey with a Persona skin
Also the rest of the SMT series still has the identity of a blobber even though they became third person with free movement

Its hard to cheer on SMT for waifu stuff when the "characters" are absent for 90% of the story before going off the rails for ther alignment philosophy so you kill them.
Also the Qaiditsu or whatever they're called give off vibes of those boxart Pokemon that do nothing until you catch and box them for the rest of the playthrough. The only one I used was the green one but none of them stay viable into the endgame

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>>742091167
Yoko is waifu, she reminds me of my ex

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smt alice

>>742115976
NTA but I think SJ is extremely overrated too and I like labyrinth of refrain/galleria
it's just not that good, not only as DRPG but the story/characters too.

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>>742116827
your lying ass
the Qaiditsu are broken to the point where I feel like I'm cheating for using them >>742115815

Paired with a debuffer like picrel, it's lights out

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smt alice love

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Naamah love

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>>742117050
Kill yourself brown tranny

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Why are the textures so good for something that's originally a Switch game?

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>>742116827
>none of them stay viable into the endgame
Come on now. Picrel is amazing.

>>742116827
VV literally allow you to keep any demonfu until the end.
It's quite literally the best SMT for that.

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>>742116083
I wouldn't really say Yoko is THAT glazed, the main deal she is a factor in that throws things into Disarray (Chaos), while she is edgy her conversation has a positive effect on Tao who was too Stagnant, but by the time THE BETRAYAL is upcoming Tao just kinda smile and "agree to disagree, but i appreciate your perspective." when she starts her rants.

Chiaki is a bit different, she is someone "strong" (Beautiful and popular girl in school), who gets thrown into a hellscape and realizes how weak she truly is, she then pursues strength to protect herself, and what people like to overlook, FAILS, she was already maimed with a broken arm when she did her fusion, the demon she had fused with had similarly been defeated. Everything around her is a hypocrisy where she should known better. Until the end, where she admits there is only room for one "Strongest" and that she never actually was strong and accepts her defeat when Demifiend beats her.

>>742116827
Pretty much any Demon can be viable for the Endgame for VV if you have enough AUTISM though, Essences, Mantras and Incenses get practically shat out in it. They won't be as broken but definitely "viable". Even outside of VV, i have a tradition to bring Ose to endgame if i can regardless of the level he is in that game.

The issue with the Quadistu is at worst that they overlap slightly and if you want their team attack that's a lot of Party Slots taken.

>>742117348
her divine spell is great if you make her stats in the category

>>742117472
I actually quite liked the endgame cutscenes where Yoko and Tao are genuinely having a heart to heart whilst debating their alignment philosophies. Unfortunately Yoko kind of comes across like an autistic retard for most of the game and her goal of destroying and remaking the world feels super extreme and murderhobo like when the alternative is Tao's "just be a good goddess to people" which is very chill for the average lawfag

>i don't know about Rog vs Tyrone
>well, you're in for a treat
>i love Rog vs Tyrone let me make a million threads about it
>kys newfag

>>742117272
Baaaaaased.

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>>742117348
she really is almost all the woman in VV are hot even the ugly ones

>>742090551
Does it matter? You can just play both depending on what you want

>>742116920
was your ex also retarded

>>742117472
>and if you want their team attack that's a lot of Party Slots taken
I might be misremembering, but I think you only need them in your roster, not in your actual active party.

>>742117846
Someone paid them to rant about SMT and Persona?

>>742118202
Yeah that's what i mean, but considering how many slots you get (And SHOULD have unlocked by the time you unlocked them for Fusion unless you been ignoring that Glory category) that shouldn't be an issue.

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Speaking of the Qadistu, I fought them this morning and this guy carried my ass
>Repels fire which makes Agrat useless
>Has heavy hama AOE which is Lilith's weakness and also chips away at the health of the other Qadistu
>Rape Namaah first with physical protag and Yoshitsune so that the Qadistu can't do their fusion dance

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>>742117000
SJ is heavily carried by the forboding vibes and how uncomfortable the zones are. I will say that I think it has some of the better alignmenta too.
Neutral, especially in redux if you say fuck you to Alex, is the most genuine "pro-humanity" neutral path in the whole series. Being able to say that you have faith in humanity fixing their ways when you can see how fucked up the world is and when even a time traveler tells you nothing will change is undeniably based.
The law path is overbearing and yet truly peaceful which is always nice.
And the chaos path, this time in the redux one, fixes one of the larger issues of Chaos which is you've just played a whole game seeing how much demons hate and abuse humans and yet in Chaos you throw humans in at the deep end regardless, by instead levelling the playing field and giving humans a fighting chance to survive in your new world.

>>742118209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nGWEb5QxGA

>>742118346
i never got around to using these guys
Siegfried was my physical go to
they looked so cool though maybe next run

>>742118360
I like when the neutral path actually has dialogue choices for it instead of having to balance choices like SMT4 so you meet the invisible points criteria (and can still fail because if your score is 0 you don't get neutral, aka you were TOO neutral)

>>742118027
She was, even went on pseudo intellectual rant's that made no sense. One time she tried to convince me that all men are rapists and women need protection from men because were all animals. She had a rock'n body though and knew how to take a dick.

>>742116827
The Qadistu are by far the best 4 set in the series, they are absolutely viable through endgame.

>>742096282
You see regular SMTV as a 9/10? I liked the game but there are way too many flaws for me to rate it that high. Story is very poorly told and uninteresting, the characters suck, dungeons suck, the environments are overly samey, dampeners are OP, etc.

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Innate skill - MISOGYNY

>>742118441
>Based Rog putting waifufags in their place
>edgy chaos scum
Based Tyrone maybe I give Persona a try

>>742118908
>Debuff skills will lower stats by 2 ranks when no Herald, Megami, Lady demons are in the active party.
Why is Beelzebub such an incel?

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I installed all the curvy mods.

How evil can I get in this game ?

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>>742119103
This is way too much

>>742119103
disgusting offmodel thickslop

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>>742114398
Where do you go for these mods? If it's just the usual "random discords full of memer teens" then I'll just have to forgo them as usual.

>>742119143
Depends on the game really, I think the most evil ending is still just saying fuck you and everything I'm erasing all of existence forever, in SMT IV

what are the differences between the two

>>742092432
Nice larp. Nocturne isn't even one of the best smt and is just /v/ core parrot taste garbage.

>>742119519
>>742119143
Dagda's ending in SMT4A is probably the most evil one in the series since you murder all your friends
In terms of gameplay evil, Digital Devil Saga heavily revolves around cannibalism

>>742119381
https://gamebanana.com/mods/games/19905

>>742119381
Do people like you not understand that you don't have to interact with the people on such a discord at all? Just stay subscribed and look if new stuff is pinned now and then, nobody cares, most people just lurk anyway.

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why do we always have to fight? I like both.
>>742119143
I think the most evil you could get is probably DeSu1 Overlord route? (It is sorta a dumb choice though)
SMT4A Anarchy Route is whatever though (I don't think it's really that evil and you could technically go into it with good intentions)

I mean most Chaos routes are WOOHOO STRONG LIVES but I don't think that's really THAT evil especially when the other side is WOOHOOO EVERYONE JUST SITS AROUND AND PRAISES GOD 24/7.

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>>742114749
>>742119381
Extremely secret
>the most popular mod on the most popular mod site
https://www.nexusmods.com/shinmegamitenseivengeance/mods/5

>>742119703
I seriously still don't get why you have to murder your friends in Anarchy Route. I mean I guess essentially they would die anyways but you think there would be a "stand your ground and help me create a new world" rather than FUCK YOU NANASHIIIIII REEEEEEEEEEEEE. Fuck you Toki too.
>>742119519
I mean I can't really say White ending is really that evil too. Fuck man, I guess SMT fucked up my morality where everything is grey lol.

>>742119718
>>742119945
Thanks. I assumed it wouldn't be either of these since it's some niche RPG instead of Skyrim or Minecraft. Well, I guess SMT isn't considered niche these days, but you know what I mean.

>>742119778
I like communities organized around a concept or hobby and such, not a chat room where the concept is secondary. I don't want to idle in 500 different discords instead of visiting one website where people specifically share and talk about the thing I'm interested in.

>>742120006
I don't know man, ending all off creation once and for all seems like a goal only the most comically evil cosmic villians have in other series

>>742119883
So the games are about deciding the fate of Tokyo City ? If I go chaos the city is destroyed, if I go law the city becomes jewish or something ?

>>742102857
it felt like artist drew a random dude monster and some suit just decided to make it lucifer and final boss

>>742107492
>they're kind of tedious to actually play
all dungeon crawlers are, it's kinda part of the appeal. you have to be a little masochistic to enjoy the genre. SMT games are actually pretty easy though, even the SNES ones

>>742119945
I didn't mean it that way but rather that there's 3-4 modders who made 5+ variations of nude mods each for her.
Based on the shape of her ass, I think it was the Defenceless mod and your link basically confirm it.
I also hate how there's no best nude mod:
The defenceless mods have flat asses while mugenrei's are grossly off-model (though his Cleo nude mods has the best tits but the seams on her neck kills it).
The korean one is IMO the best overall for her

>>742095749
I know this is pasta but I'm having the opposite experience. I loved the first few hours in the underworld, but now I'm back in the city and it's all words words words words words and I'm getting bored

>>742121173
The cityslop ends soon don't worry

>>742090551
It was but ever since 4: Apoc came out SMT has basically been Persona wearing a skinsuit.

>>742090551
I like it more
I'm just not a fan of the school life and day planning stuff

SMT6 should have social links and romance

>>742097658
It's for the Lavenza fight. Instead of fusing around 10 demons for a repel and single target Panta Rhei Satanael strategy, you can just fuse him as the main damage dealer because it's the path of least resistance.

>>742121856
Nah just let Doi make more demon waifus and let me fuck them, how has nobody made a porn parody of smt yet anyway, there are a million pokemon and dragon quest clones

>>742121856
I wouldn't mind if it's with demons.

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>>742097858
At least post 8K screenshots, you swine!

>>742096282
what makes persona 5 so much lower rated that the other persona games?

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>>742122359
how does one make 8k screenshots in VV btw?

>>742122606
Its piss easy. Especially the Royal version. Also the pacing is terrible, imo.

>>742122606
contrarianism

you can't expect /v/ermin to have real opinions on anything

>>742122359
Nice.
Good to see you're still alive.

Leave it to mainline SMT fags to make me seriously consider swearing off SMT and playing only Persona out of spite. You can't even like both as different games, you have to only like SMT or you're literally pissing in their cheerios.

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I beat Vengeance when it came out and I've had a hankering to do the OG route, should I do it on Godborn NG+ or do a new game? The goal is to beat Masakado since I've beaten Satan, problem is I don't remember how to play the game

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>>742122751
I shall never leave.

>>742122606
I was a big fan of P3 and P4 but by the time P5 came out I grew out of the target demographic, the game was complete ass. It's the reason why I'm not touching the new remakes with a ten foot pole.

>>742122676
Buy a 8K monitor, duh!

>>742122828
A-any new 8K Mermaid pics?

>>742122896
fuck you too

>>742122758
Might as well do Godborn, though Masakado will fuck your shit up.

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It sucks that you can't keep this form until the end of the game
Also post your binos

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>>742123014
don't be so angry!
here is the console command:

"HighResShot 2 filename="insertyourfolderpathhere"

>>742122974
this is the best I can do on the blue board

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>>742122754
No one cares you spiteful queer boy. Join us or get mocked.

>>742123308
>this is the best I can do on the blue board
Thanks, better than nothing.

>>742090551
I would say smt is better because its more gameplay focused and less story focused but for some reason smt5 is filled with pointless bullshit cutscenes. Its really annoying.

>>742122754
I mean it’s changed recently for some reason but a few years ago yeah people really only liked one or the other and it makes sense, they’re tonally very different games. The type of dude that likes edgy post apocalyptic dungeon crawler romps with a metal soundtrack isn’t really the target audience for happy go lucky games set in high school.
It’s like a guy who’s super into autistic sims like factorio probably isn’t going to be into animal crossing

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>>742123365
well, I really don't want to get fucked by daddy government by uploading stuff like this. Theoretically, mermaid is full age (even called a woman in the lore text), but you never know how people can interpret things with the law.

>>742123223
>figment slash

Strengthfags are so soulless

>>742123598
I had a Paraselene Blur build (see the +9 Light potential) but it was so fucking annoying to set up that I just switched to Figment Slash instead

>>742123596
Catbox/litter is your friend~ (unless you live in the UK)

>>742090551
>Persona is popular
>"WE" must hate it.
contrarianism is not an identity nor is it board culture.

>>742120674
DeSu1 is about you getting stuck in Tokyo (literally like they locked you the fuckdown) and it's all about surviving the 7 days while in a battle royale to become king of the Bel's. One of the endings has you team up with your cousin to punch God in the face. In that ending there's a sub choice where it's either you kill anyone who goes against you or you convince them to stop fighting. In the good route, everyone cheers you on as you go to punch God in the face. In the bad route, everyone's fucking so scared of you that the world becomes peaceful as you become the world's dictator (which I guess isn't as evil as I thought...)
>>742120519
Meh.... At least it's understandable. I don't think SMT has ever had a goofy "lololololol fuck you all ending".

>>742090551
shame the story in smtv was complete crap
fun game though

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>>742123751
YEAH IT IS.

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>>742123719
I am pretty sure that images uploaded there can be IP-backtracked as well. and no, I have the fortune of not being a Brit

>>742123674
My Figment slasher is Satan, I gave up on Paraselene Blur too and went back to Murakumo+Wrath Tempest.

>Megaten game gets an updated version with new routes and new focus characters, lots of gameplay improvements
>Everyone loves the gameplay but hates the story editions
Every single time
Except Nocturne, which was babby's first SMT and the Dante version was the one released here and nobody's actually played the base game so they can't act elitist over the story additions and believe the TDE is the canon best ending

>>742123860
>I am pretty sure that images uploaded there can be IP-backtracked as well.
That's where you use a (paid) VPN.
Unless you are already on a list, then it won't help you.
I wish I had money, then I would post my own Mermaid 8K screenshots.
>spoiler
Good for you, anon.

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>>742123979
Dante joining your party only to end up helping destroy the world in TDE feels weird. This is why I recruit Dante and then abandon TDE to do Freedom ending instead

>>742123979
Do you think matador would still have the insane reputation he has as one of gaming’s biggest filters if people knew it was an expansion boss fight that was really only intended for people who had already beaten the base game to be experiencing

>>742123979
TDE is the best ending for being cool and also has the most content.
>>742124237
If Dante found out YHVH was just a demon like any other, he'd be down for it.

>>742090623
This is the best opinion. I like both.

>>742123568
I guess there's this uncommon class of people who like SMT and its adjacent series spinoffs for being peak mythology wank. Then again, I do enjoy both relationship sims and post apocalyptic stories, so who knows. I always thought I just wasn't a tribalistic retard and could enjoy many different things.

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>>742124185
You dont need a good pc for these, afaik. There is a UE4 console command which takes screenshot in a super high resolution. I posted it here:

>>742123308

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Is penis better than vagina?

>>742124364
There’s definitely an overlap it’s just a much bigger overlap than it used to be
Used to be SMT was the 4chan game and Persona was the reddit game, but a lot of redditors have come here over the years, and SMT is pretty well known on reddit now when before it was still quite unknown

Realistically, which year should the next game from SMTV's studio come out

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>>742124578
>Used to be SMT was the 4chan game and Persona was the reddit game
That's some shit underage newfags parade around to try and fit in. Persona 3 wasn't much of a departure from 2 or SMT. 4 was a bit bright and happy but that fits the tone the game was aiming for. P5 has plenty of SMT-isms and even goes back to demon negotiation that 3 and 4 lacked.
Anyone trying to create a divide like this or giving away a game series to "the scawy weddit peopow" needs to shut the fuck up permanently.
Persona aims at different things than SMT.
So does Raidou.
So does Digital Devil Saga.
So does Metaphor.
Grow the hell up, acting like an actual child while still shitting on reddit just makes them look better than you. And no, accusing me of using reddit isn't going to work. I've never touched the place. I'm just stick of people being proud of their childishness here.

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>>742124283
I think that even then, Matador isn't hard, you just have to use buffs and debuffs. The superbosses of the base Nocturne are the Four Heavenly Kings, with Bishamonten as the leader, and the strategy to beat him is to max your buffs (minus 1) so that the AI never uses Dekaja, then you can just wail on him.

I was so strong in the normal story that when I fought Kagutsuchi, I spent the whole time buffing, returned all my demons to the party, and then proceeded to use regular punches to do the entire fight.

>>742124397
How do you enable the console?

>>742123979
But people like the Vengeance additions? Don't people just meme on Yoko cause it is funny?

>>742124753
You mean VI?
II - 1994
III - 2003 (9 years later)
IV - 2013 (10 years later)
V - 2021 (8 years later)

Probably 2030/2031. We need Atlus to announce the game and then take 3-4 years to release it.

>>742090551
That one isnt

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>>742125135
https://github.com/Lyall/SMTVFix

use this mod

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SMT if you want to play a game.
Persona if you're a weeb incel in need of high school and dating simulation.

>>742124861
Persona 3 is babbys first psychological game it isn’t that dark at all
Persona 2 isn’t even that dark, maybe EP is a bit with the more adult cast but IS is for the most part pretty lighthearted, especially since two of your party members spends 95% of the game being comic relief
Also notice I didn’t shit on either game series, or reddit? I pointed out there used to be less of an overlap because they in general go for different audiences but that’s it, sounds like you’re the one looking to make a divide from nothing by accusing people of starting series wars
I didn’t even say which franchise I preferred
Obviously every game in the overall umbrella goes for different things but it’s more about tone, but yeah even though Raidou is closer to tone to SMT than Persona, if someone doesn’t like action RPGs it doesn’t matter how big an SMT fan they are, they’re not gonna play it

>>742122695
>imo.
s

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>>742125147
>Don't people just meme on Yoko cause it is funny?
Did you pay attention to her? She's a pointless contrarian.

The context for the scene in pic related is a vampire is going around killing and sucking the blood of humans so demons can get high. The demons aren't fighting for their lives, they don't need the blood to live, they just want to get drunk on human suffering.
And Yoko says some dumb fucking shit like "you can't label that as evil" - it is the VERY DEFINITION OF EVIL.

>>742096282
>P4 better than 3 and 5
>BETTER THAN FUCKING SJ.

>>742124861
found the predditor and I didn't even have to look

>>742125465
>Persona 3 is babbys first psychological game it isn’t that dark at all
So a game needs to be a deep and dark psychological game to impress you. I'm already disappointed in you and didn't read the rest of your post.
You are the childish, dismissive retard I'm talking about. You don't get to act superior.

>>742122754
this is even remotely as bad as it used to be, this style of poster is basically the japanese soldier who never stopped fighting, a complete retard who doesnt even realize he already lost years ago

>>742125535
>Did you pay attention to her? She's a pointless contrarian.
That's what makes her funny though. Plus that was the last possible sidequest before you lose her and Tao, wasn't it? The one where Tao basically doesn't take her contrarian shit seriously anymore.

>>742125646
Once again, I never said that. You’re pulling words out of thin air again
Am I not allowed to like games aimed as an entry level darker RPG for teenagers especially if I played it as a teen?
Btw I never said SMT was dark i said ‘edgy’
Stop making yourself look retarded, you’re digging a hole

>>742126236
>You’re pulling words out of thin air again
You said "it isn't that dark at all" like it's relevant. If you're going to communicate entirely through suggestion or implication, you're a coward. You're also the type of person to claim one thing is "4chan" or "reddit" so I shouldn't be surprised.

>>742090551
I've only played persona 3 and SMT DDS 1 and 2. The dungeon crawling in DDS 1 and 2 were miles better than in Persona 3. However, the visual novel elements in Persona 3 were pretty good.

>>742126528
So you don’t think something can be popular in one community and relatively unknown in the other? Do you think BookTok and /lit/ share the taste in reading?

Play persona 3 and 4.
Its okay. I think to myself "THIS? is what everyone shits their pants over?"
Finally get smt on steam
Its the most purest kino ever one of my fav games ever made

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>>742126862
>So you don’t think something can be popular in one community
My point is you shouldn't give a fuck. Stop being a slave.
For a person who plays games that lets you consider different points of view, you sure like your fuckin tribalism.

>>742125230
Thank you.
I managed to make the console appear but the command does nothing.
I tried
HighResShot 2 filename=C:\Users\User\Desktop\Mermaid.png
and
HighResShot 7680x4320 filename=C:\Users\User\Desktop\Mermaid.png
But neither work sadly...
All I get is a slowdown of my computer and then nothing.

>>742127074
Again, never said I gave a fuck, just pointing out there used to be less of an overlap

i def prefer smt to persona. i do think smt 4 is alot better than 5 though, might be biased cause it was my first atlas game but its very innovative and different. the whole setting in 4 is very creative, while 5 is fun but not as unique imo. I was 30+ when i tried persona 4/5 and while the music is amazing, its really hard for me not to cringe at teenage issues and trying to immerse myself in asian high school life. had to quit 4+5 at like 10h in cause it felt like a vn for ... teens obviously. might give the games another try, but smt definitely feels like the "adult" persona.

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>>742091167

>>742113662
Doi does good designs, he just lacks that "weird" touch that Kaneko has.

>>742128398
Doi sucks ass and his designs are gacha tier

>>742128507
You havent played a gacha if you really think this.

>>742128627
Don’t think you need to actually play a gacha to know most of them are coombait

TRUTHPILL: Both suck ass

>>742128832
Your mom AND you? do you get paid for it?

>>742125230
>>742127107
Nevermind, found the issue.
I used \ instead of / for the path, which is why it didn't work.
>a single screenshot in 8k is 25mo
Wew, but it's worth it for Mermaid.

>>742128627
Ok retard as if I need to play gacha when trannies like you spam the board with that crap

>>742121173
>>742121264
Holy shit. This.
I was so into the game and setting and then finding out that the apocalypse was all a weird lucid dream and everyone was living in a cartoonishly bad written fake city was such a downer I dropped the game for months.

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>>742128731
It's over, Kaneko is also gacha-tier...

>>742128914
>Doi gachatranny so asshurt it is just lashing out at anyone
Miserable, V really is the end for this series

>>742129016
Kaneko had a good mix of humanoids and beasts but Doi seems to mainly do humanoid designs

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>>742129018
NTA but you brown autistic subhuman crying about V/Vengeance is every SMT thread is truly mental.

>>742129173
>no u tranny tantrum
>boogeyman evocation
Pathetic and sad
>>>/vmg/

>>742123979
I did mainline in order and 3 is still peak because it's the perfect SMT game in all aspects. If 2 (ps1) was translated then it would be close between the two.

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>>742097469
It bugs me so much.
It's like there was room for them to become kino characters, but just when you begin to reach that mark, the game goes into SMT kill your friends mode and you are suddenly forced to pull a 180 out of nowhere on whether you want to keep your companions because they're dead set on becoming gay hippies, or kill them all without a single one of them willing to hear you out.

>>742129092
I can agree to that, its not like he cant do non humanoids, i really like the hydra and hayatarou, but he does seem to focus on more humanoids than anything else, either for marketability or just because monsters are harder to design.

>>742128731
Problem with gatcha designs is not that they are sexy, its that they are really boring and bland. Doi can be a bit boring (like i said he lacks that Kaneko weirdness) but he isnt bland.

>>742119143
You can't really be evil in VV. I mean you can be a dick, obviously, but law and chaos is generally just potentially extreme stances to trying to save the world and the game the game tries to make all the endings reasonably good endings.

>>742123979
It's a cool powertrip and a breath of fresh air in a medium where you are mostly all about power of friendship, save the world, uwu. And the edgelord endings are blatantly flagged as bad endings.
But tbqh, the neutral ending is the best end for that game, since everyone sucks and the whole premise of the routes is based on wishful thinking from people who can't be bothered to sell you on their ideals.

I totally agree that Doi isn't Kaneko, and that Kaneko fans should immediately stop playing newer games and leave the fandom completely in retaliation. That will show them.

>>742130680
Seething

>>742129016
For this to be gacha tier it needs 8 more chains, some random belts and pouches, 5 different halos, 4 more wings, a few random animals, a random mechanical part or maybe something like a boxing glove, a neon tail, and hmm... the eyepatch should be glowing. Also give her a skirt or spats so you can add lots of random runes and lines on them and never explain what it means.

>>742096282
>SMT SJ - 3/10
shit taste

>>742090649
Unfortunately they talk. Would have been better as mutes.