According to ChatGPT's DeepResearch model, there is no solid evidence that attractive character designs have a measurable impact on gamers' buying decisions. Most consumers will still buy a game if the gameplay looks solid, even when the character designs are average or unattractive.What do you think?
>>742090641>According to ZionGPT's DeepGoycattle model
>According to ChatGPT
are you serious? lol
>>742090641I think you should be raped.
nigga asked chatgpt
>>742090641>According to the electronic rabbi
>>742090641I think you are an idiot for listening a fucking AI bot
>According to ChatGPTAt least make up your own misinformation
>>742090641Post your lack of foreskin
Genuinely great bait anon.
>>742090704>>742090760>>742090803I was referring to its deepresearch mode, idiots. It's way more accurate than its default model
>>742090906>source: my ass
>>742090906Retard.
>>742090641Gachas are the best focus test of this. Character looks like shit = no money. Character looks good = money. You're working with the same monkey brains no matter what you're selling.Also Concord looking like shit contributed to its death. Marvel Rivals doesn't look like shit, so people play it. No way to sell a hero shooter when the heroes are the ugliest designs you could possibly create.
>>742090641>SaarsGPT
>>742090641Marketing as a business has known and said for the longest time that 'Sex sells'. Regardless of whether it is a core reason for why it sells a product it never hurts to have it.
>>742090641>there is no solid evidenceBecause nobody has ever studied it, because it's obvious.
>>742090641>According to ChatGPTthis shithole really gets worse by the day
>>742090641>According to ChatGPTban all Groksuckers
I'll play a good game without sex appealBut I'll enjoy a good game with attractive characters more than one with ugly characters
>>742090641>According to ChatGPT
>>742090641I've bought with my dick before therefore others have too
>>742090897>baitits legit how Jeets post here
The AI bot is not wrong though There are games which rely heavily on gooner designs like the last descendant, but it plays like turd so the game is flopping hardThere are also games with vomiting designs like last of us 2, but it still sells like hot cakes with great success The true, as always, is in the middle ground
>>742090641They don't sell games, just like woke shit doesn't sell or ruin games either. Sexy chicks are the icing on the cake, they make a good thing better. There is not a single good game that failed because it was woke and there is not a single bad game that succeeded because it was anti-woke.
>>742091048>Gachas are the best focus test of thisNo they aren't. Retards who play gacha aren't the same as the average consumer. They're pornbrained gambling addicts.>b-but what about-I have FUCKING spoken.
>>742090641Sex appeal is a multiplier but not part of the base value for all but the most deranged coomers, so while its valuable you still gotta have substance underneath.
>According to ChatGPTAt least use Claude, lmao. But even then, you should honestly kill yourself, OP.
>>742090906I also asked and it says you should kys
>>742090906Dumbass.
>>742090906Doesn't matter, the safety protocols placed on chatgpt don't allow it to accurately deliver information on controversial topics. Try grok or deepseek or something.>Durrr umm chatgpt uhhh does sex sell???```?!!!?Or maybe try using a little common sense next time.
>>742090641Subhumans who need language models to """think""" for them and blindly trust them should be sterilized and removed from the gene pool.
>>742091048>thirdworlders who only play waifu collectors on their 300$ android phones >of course they represent us average gamers!
>>742090641I literally bought five copies of Fortune Summoners because of how sexy the main characters are.
Personally I can only think of 2 times I've ever purchased a game because it had a character in it I wanted to fuck, and to be fair the game actually looked good once I peeped it thanks to the girl, so it's more like the character put the game on my radar rather than itself resulted in my purchase. If the same character were in some shmup or something I wouldn't have bothered.
>>742090641>According to (((chatgpt)))
>>742090641Oh my god, okay, so like, that AI response is literally so wrong and totally missing the entire point! Like, obviously, having super iconic and attractive character designs creates this massive, insane hype online that breaks the internet, and that kind of viral attention absolutely drives people to go out and buy the game. Plus, like, hello, the whole gaming industry makes literally billions off of people buying cosmetic skins and figurines just because a character looks pretty, so saying attention doesn't equal sales is just, like, completely out of touch, even if the overall market is a little more complicated than that!>
>>742091351Don't you think you're doing Stellar Blade a disservice when you spin it's primary appeal as the fuckable main characters rather than the solid gameplay?
>>742090641I don't think I would have bought Rumble Roses if it were all dudes.
I think it's more that ugly black women make your game under-perform. I'm unironically a lefty but I haven't bought any games with a black woman on the cover because I just assume it's going to lecture me when I'm trying to have fun.
I think it's more that something sells if there's soul to it. People can implicitly sense that, I think. When you start deliberately suppressing sexuality the way that commies do it's very noticeably unnatural. Prior to last gen it wasn't uncommon to see female characters wearing tank tops with visible cleavage and curves and nothing was made of it because it was barely even intended to be sexual; that's just what girls wear in real life. Now it's a whole event whenever a character shows a bit of tit and some people just buy it as a form of protest.
>>742090641Gacha you dumb fuck.
>>742090641could you ask it for examples of games that did poorly because they had good looking characters, and games that did poorly because they had ugly characters?
>>742091486Only has one playable male and he is a bottom bitch clown
According to ChatGPT, Claude and Grok OP sucks 6 cocks per week, I asked Gemini too but it claimed 2 cocks which me and of course all the AI assistants found a bit too low
>>742090641Nobody wants to play as ugly characters outside extremely specific genres or art styles. Creating deliberately ugly characters simply harms your sales.
>>742091563That's how it starts. You notice one thing those retards push on you then the whole house of cards starts to fall apart.
>WokeGPT with woke guardrailsKILL YOURSELF FAGGOT OP
>>742090641If "sex sells" was all it took then we'd be up to X Blades 5 by now.So yeah, no shit sex appeal isn't all that's needed for a game to be profitable.
>>742090641They do but you also need to actually make a character that people give a shit about. 2B is sexy but everyone loves her because she's a great character in a great game. Sex alone does not sell.
>>742091640This. Humans are outrageously shallow because we're extremely visually biased. Statistically, pretty privilege is the second most impactful metric for how your life turns out, behind wealth. Hot people enjoy higher quality of life across the board, among every culture and in every time period where we have reasonable data.
Future generations will have to defend every argument against ChatGPT's propaganda as evidence. Fucking hell.
>>742090641Ask it the same thing but replace "attractive female" with "DEI".
>>742091656Nah, I'm a single issue environmental voter and the conservatives have convinced you retards that pollution is good.
what was the first impression of the highguard trailer? generic, slop, overwatch ripoffnow, it was free so a couple of million players did try the game but the game also sucked cock so people stopped playingif the character designs are ugly, then you dont care about making a good game, it is purely a propaganda pieceif you refuse to spend the time to make your character cool or hot, then you will not spend time on refining the gameplay to be fun and enjoyable because you have other ideas
>>742090906>it reads reddit way more carefully than the poverty modelThe absolute state of npcs
>>742091725It can work if that's literally the main focus of the game, like DOA or >>742091486If sexiness is THE thing your game is riding on that's pretty much all you're selling at that point, but yeah it's not a guarantee either way.
>>742091319Do you understand what “average” is?
Motion capture killed a lot of creativity in character design too. It's always been commonplace to use models as a reference, now it's just facescanning the actor in lieu of creating something novel with the template. It isn't just the Debra Wilsons either, look at Mortal Kombat 1 compared to 9; the latter's character designs were quite striking and distinct, now you've got Shang Tsung looking like a slimy gay porno actor
>>742090641It depends on the game. I don't think Arial Tetsuo sold Wipeout at all, even though Atom Bomb probably widened the audience a little bit. Ditto Reiko and Ridge Racer.Have Chun-Li and Mai Shiranui sold copies of fighting games though? For sure. Beast Rider was probably split 50/50 selling on the Golden Axe name, and selling on Tyris Flare and her redesign.Conversely, I can't think of many games that had conventionally unattractive/ugly females that sold really well(Horizon's mid, not flat-out ugly.) If we're talking male characters though, it flips, because noone would argue Unreal wasn't a hit despite Cliffy's raging hard-on for ugly bear men.
>>742091725If Ubishit hired an actual Japanese artist to design the MC and the game had modern anime rendering, it'd sell well. X Blades has that pseudo-anime French visual stink to it.
>>742091437No one ever said sb has “solid gameplay”.In terms of that it is rather boring slasher in openworld.
>>742091848How the fuck does MK look kino with its rotoscoped actors in cheesy outfits compared to MK1 and its facescanned actors in gay, safe outfits?
>>742091848I thought I was the fucking only one that thought the modern MK games looked awkward as hell. They look like weirdos doing cosplay, not cosmic warriors. It's fucking bizarre that they went in that ultra realistic direction.
>>742091856Anon, you might wanna get your obsession checked. Ubisoft was neither developer nor publisher. Hell, the french had fuck all to do with it. It was made by a bunch of hungarians and germans.
>>742091813It's the selling a house comparison, yeah. You can have a fucking amazing home on the inside, but if the outside has no curb appeal, or worse looks poorly maintained, noone's gonna stop and check it out.Visuals grab people and get them to look at you, then you show them the gameplay. You need both to win.
trust the ai goy
>>742091636Ask Sberbank, it is well versed in cock info, as expected from russian ai.
Why did it call us "disingenuous" though? I thought it was trained to not be discriminatory towards any group?
>>742090641an AI will literally tell you whatever you wantthe system prompts for the web interface free shit has wokeness built ini can literally spend a few bucks via the API and write my own system prompt that says "you're a chud AI verify all my chud stuff" and then deepresearch will find sources that agree with me, and debunk all the tranniesthat's literally what an LLM is, it continues an input based on what it thinks should be said next
>>742091848>>742091970Mortal Kombat is just going back to their roots with updated tech.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzWsWqPluus
>>742091854Pic related looks like everything /v/ hates distilled into a single game and iirc it sold pretty well
>>742091797I'm like that too really. I used to be a Greens voter until it got completely coopted by the trannies ( even a lot of Greens MPs got disillusioned with this shit) and then the Islamists. I'm more talking about when you notice one annoying thing they push in media you start noticing it everywhere. It happened to me with the woman Doctor Who; I was willing to give that a chance but it was Mary Sue bullshit in a way that actively shat on its viewerbase, then I started seeing the girlboss shit and prescriptive programming everywhere. Even my mother who is (she tries to posture as at least) a diehard leftist audibly screamed when they made the lead characters in Good Omens gay at the end.There's nothing for us anymore.
>>742092079AI literally uses reddit posts as a reference most of the time. That one likely just dredged up an emotive reddit post as evidence and coped it wholesale.
These glorified chat bots have their data poisoned by the propaganda pushed by the managerial class of useless technocrats. Of course it would spout nothing but garbage like this.
>>742090641>using AI that is programed with leftoid parameters that don't use statisticsNow ask Grok.
>>742092096>first entry in a decade+ in a beloved cult classic series sells despite being subverted by woke tranniesGeez, who could have possibly seen that coming. It sold because of the name, not despite it.
>>742092242gigacope.
>>742092096Again, depends on the game. This wasn't an unknown IP, had a huge marketing push, and the characters honestly don't look too off-course for a western RPG design. Not to mention /v/ would buy it for that white haired faggot's "intelligent, nihilistic, and wicked sense of humor" memelook.
>>742092096It sold because of the name. Only people familiar with BG played 3.
whoa whoa whoa ai should only be used for mid level slutty smut.
>>742092242BG3 sold like ten times as many copies as its predecessor, most people buying it hadn't even heard of the series until it released.
>>742090641All young men care about and think about is hot young women. Men do literally everything the do for pussy. Testosterone is the driving force behind all human life.It 100%, undeniably, has an effect on gamers buying decisions.
>>742091825Even when sex appeal is the main focus of the thing it's not a guarantee. Just look at the guy game. That thing was a commercial flop even before the underage b& got it pulled from stores.
>>742092015Well there’s also the fact that, in this comparison, people have realised that a certain group of utterly incompetent architects have made it a point of designing utterly hideous exteriors.At that point they’re on high alert when buying a house and will bolt at the first sign those architects have anything to do with it.
>>742092325That's fucking hilarious considering it's the only search engine that still lists CP
Attractive characters realistically are the cherry. Nobody sane is sticking around if the entire rest of the game is mediocre.
>>742092374>stillAnon, yandex got neutered hard months ago.
>>742092331You're describing people with mental illness, not actual men.
>>742092331Personally when I was a teen and I saw a hot bitch in a game my first thought wasn't "I should buy that" but instead "I should look this game up on rule34"And then after that it was "I should pirate that"
>>742092431Btw, did you know that Motherless has been down since last week?
>>742091519Women's football should have more moments like this, and they need a summer uniform that shows their midriff, with short shorts.That will definitely increase viewership
>>742092510It's not. It moved domains. It WAS down way before last week when the government got involved.
>>742092326Cool and completely unverifiable claim that also can't account for sharing the discs with friends.
>>742090641>According to ChatGPT's DeepResearch model,
>>742092354It's far too apt that in the housing comparison, that'd be the McMansion.The ultimate destination of these folk really is the fast food drive-thru.
>>742090704>>742090708>>742090760K E K
>>742090641>femaleMale character design matters as well, and both have to have some attractive qualities, even if they arent sexual.
>>742092562Whats the new domain?
I mean, attractive characters are just one facet of a project. They can get people's eyes on a piece, maybe even get some people's foot in the door, but if the actual thing isn't worth a damn, then it will still fail.Take the First Descendant for example. When it was announced and came out, it got a lot of attention for it's unashamedly sexy designs and it had a LOT of people trying it out. But in the end, the actual game was an unremarkable PVE hero looter shooter with a big emphasis on either excessive grinding or paying money. Thus, the game massively fell off.Likewise, if you look at games with popular, sexy, cool, or cute characters AND good gameplay, they get tons of merch that sells well, fanart, cosplays, etc. But games that are good WITHOUT attractive characters can end up not having the hook needed to reach their potential, or generally lack player engagement beyond the media.
/v/tards coping once againWoke sells. Fanservice does not. Japan ditched fanservice and their sales exploded.
>>742091241you jack off to children?
>>742092676its a .xxx now.
>>742092510I haven't visited that place in years but I actually knew it was temporarily down because they wanted to clean house or some shit, since I randomly visited /gif/ at the time and they were talking about it.
>>742092702Returnal did really well, retard.
>>742092702>tfw have played none of the games from either sidefeels good being a 2010s gaming CHAD
>relying on goyLLM to tell you what to thinklmao! you should blow your brains out
>>742090906Elon told me Grok is actually the most accurate so it must be true.
>>742092702>make huge sales volume>still can't break even and lose moneyAt that point, even compile heart's kusoge is giving better returns than many of the right. Marketing alone gets you numbers, but not profits.
>>742092702This might be a compelling image if I were a retard who lacked critical thinking skills. Bait used to be believable
>>742092702>slop that gets worldwide release has higher raw sales numbers than games that only release in japan and/or targets specific nichesCanning said it best.
>>742092079>Why did it call us "disingenuous" though? have you asked this to gpt's face though? post result
>>742090641>AI BAD! ...unless it states something I want to believe or if it takes jobs away from blue collar workers (learn to code, chud)
>>742090641Unattractive female characters un-sell games.> Most consumers will still buy a gameLol, that hasn't really been working out in practice
>>742090641tribe nine beta started with the bookworm character and then when it launched they entirely reworked the game to have zenless forced delay switches and changed it to the blue hair male lead banner, and then they cut short his banner and put the bookworm back and even after carrying on by then it was too late and the game cratered. so you tell me.
>>742090641ChatGPT is the most blackrock adjacent and kiked narrative manipulation tool on planet earth.Anyone, ANYONE who uses chatgpt for subjects like this is going to be HEAVILY gaslit and be too goddamned retarded and mentally weak from over relianced on that chatbot that they'll believe it whole heartedly.Remember folks.Every single person who uses chatbots like this are retarded. No I'm not being a dick or exageratting. They litterally have scientific proven articles showing that people who use it too much become mentally retarded.
>>742090734Commissioner Gordon, how could you!
>>742093001the eggheaded bitch from horizon didn't seem to kill her game
Libshits are so desperate to have their ugly troon characters validated that they are asking CHATGPT for confirmation and think it's a good source LMAO
>>742090641>Do attractive female characters actually sell gamesyehsource: my cock.
>>742091587>Gacha you dumb fuck.They forget about gacha when they want to make disingenuous arguments. Then when it's time to attack gacha again, they suddenly remember the right language, i.e. "gooner", "incels" etc etc because they're retarded NPCs who wanna get high by feeling superior to others.What's more interesting is that chatGPT seems to have been told what to say concerning "sensitive" topics and apparently men spending money on attractive women, be they even digital, is a highly sensitive topic. If you ask it if Israel is ran by jews, chatGPT will tell you that it's an antisemitic conspiracy theory.tl;dr feminists told chatGPT what to say
>>742090641>attention =/= salesIts insane that it even acknowledges attractive characters bring more attention yet its still coping by saying it doesn't translate to more sales. Yes it does. If 20 people know about your game instead of 5 then more people are end up going to buy it.
>>742093110Yes there were japanese and african nazis.
>>742091243>>742091319>hot takes from soijak party
>>742093107just ignore biology
>chatgpt debunks sex sells
>>742091212>just like woke shit doesn't sell or ruin games eitherlolIt's too early to engage with your retarded midwit misapprehensions, just take your (you) and begone
>>742093215did you know hitler was black?
>>742090641Really poor choice of image btw. Understatement really. ABHORRENTLY poor choice of image.
>>742093160>They forget about gacha when they want to make disingenuous arguments. Then when it's time to attack gacha again, they suddenly remember the right language, i.e. "gooner", "incels" etc etc because they're retarded NPCs who wanna get high by feeling superior to others.This describes their approach to every topic under the sun and it's so fucking tiresome
>>742092242DOS2 did not have a big name and sold good enough too.BG3 is just a good game.On the cover it is not “woke”, we have two white men, white woman, green and red exotic women and token nigger. It is not in pink/neon purple.Its has big name that is praised universally, it has big indie studio with good reputation. It has motion capture and voices, it has good graphics. It is on absolute starved market. It had ea where devs actually catered to audience and polished first act.Of course it sold great.
>>742090641Stellar Blade was awful and sold well so I guess they do
>>742093385shut up faggot
>>742090641People who let AI think for them should be put in camps and treated like the golems that they are for the rest of their lives.>feminist-controlled AI looks at feminist-controlled sources like the MSM and Reddit and says that feminism is correctYou don't say.
>>742090641>According to ChatGPT's DeepResearch model
>>742092326Bg2 was 15 years ago prior to BG2 and all this time it was growing a cult. Of course bg3 sold better - there are a lot more pc users, it is on big consoles, people have a big internet presence to hear about the game and can buy it online.I am sure SW: screaming woman sold more tickets than SW2: empire strikes back. Does it make it better movie? No, but it has much bigger market reach.
>>742091468Hammertits
>>742093424>it wasn't a 1:1 dmc clone so it was bad!
according to my own personal intelligence, you're a fucking retarded faggot OP
i think largely consumers like sexy bitches but it doesnt make or break a purchase
>>742093614I dont think they advertised second horizon as “aloi got fat cheeks and skin condition”. First one had a good looking woman in a pretty world as a cover.Interesting, the second one did too, she doesnt look on cover as she does in game.
>>742093614>horizon zero awards>feminist icon
>>742093585>>742092326>>742092242The real reason is because BG3 is a quality game. Most CEOs and execs don't give a shit about game quality and only want the line to go up. Being woke is usually an indication that they cut corners in other ways, because wokeism costs $0 as a checkbox. Think about it this way, rather than putting effort into the gameplay that actually costs money, they can just get political points, right? So most woke games are actually games that have no effort put into it.No effort = sells like shit.When a character looks beautiful, most of the time that translates to other parts of the game as well, because if you put in effort into the character model, then you probably put in budget into other places as well. >>742092702>Japan ditched fanservice and their sales exploded.Most games in Japan are low budget anime tie ins which is why games like Genshin, Love and Deepspace, Nikke etc ate their lunch. People say that Stellar Blade is a bad game, but it is being supported by the Nikke fanbase. And the game itself might be bad, but there's clearly effort being put into the game.
>>742093991im sorry but who fucking cares about video game awards? its an utterly worthless metric of quality same as professional game reviews
>>742090641Video games with attractive women will sell better by virtue of that attention getting people to know about your game at allTake the same game, make one trailer with a milquetoast 4/10 and one with a smoking 10/10, guaranteed the version of the 10/10 would get move views which statistically will translate to more sales compared to the other version
>>742090641Like graphics as long as the characters look standard attractive it's good. Going into hypersexy has diminishing returns, but going in the extreme opposite direction can kill it. A game that looks like shit is unappealing, characters included.
>>742090734it's true, commish
I didn't play BG3 because I played DOS2 and swore to never touch a Larian game again.Thanks for reading my blogpost.
>>742091847Gacha shitters are not gamers
>>742091048Non-gacha player but isn't the whole point that the games are free and you only need to spend money on the characters? Of course looks are going to be important there.
>>742092242>>742092312/v/ said franchises who don't release games every 3 years is an unc slop.How did it sell well then?
>>742091820Kekk
>>742094359>/v/ is one person and if i use niggerslang in a failed attempt to fit in then surely everyone will believe melolno
>>742093993>The real reason is because BG3 is a quality game.It's skyrim for women. The next game will have even more porn mods. "Quality game", c'mon anon. When your "quality game" has comparable amounts of adult mods to a game attacked for being for "gooner incels", the quality of your game is probably not the first on the list of motivating factors in purchasing it. Remember the bearfucking scene, and many others.
>make a fun game with ugly bitches (ps5 spiderman, horizon)>people buy it >make a fun game with sexy bitches (nier, xenoblade)>people buy it>make a shit game with ugly bitches (concord, forspoken)>people dont buy it>make a shit game with sexy bitches (first descendent, gacha)>people dont buy itshrimple as thatcourse there are other parameters to success (name recognition, fanbase etc) but the point is the game usually has to at least be good regardless.
>>742094082>but who fucking cares about video game awards?In the case of HZD, nobody did.
>>742093608Thats the thing though. It's not just trying to ape DMC. It tried to ape Sekiro where you beat down the enemies postur-- I mean shield, and then you X to awesome. And it does a poor job at that. There's a reason you never see gameplay discussion about Stellar Blade, and when you do it's about fighting Raven or Scarlet. That's because you can trivialize around 90% of the boss fights just by spamming one move. It'd be like if DMC let you SSS win against almost every boss just by spamming stinger over and over.
>>742090641>According to ChatGPT's
>>742094335gacha characters are marketed to different demographics.Main demographics probably boil down to this:>waifufag/husbando character -> the character is for (You)Usually there are characters who are supposed to be your official waifu/husbando and for the mixed pandering games, there's a few designated for this role>shipperbait charactersFor CN fandom particularly, they are usually upset by heterosexual shipping because all the characters are supposed to be shipped with the player, so in this category it's largely yaoifags and yurifags being appealed to here.>furry character>loli/shota charactersshota characters tend to flop saleswise, loli characters do better but lately a lot of games have been avoiding lolisThen there's the:>esports characterThe unit is strong or does something unique so it's a 'must pull'>Lore characterThey are bait for lorefags. They are usually an integral part of the story and can drop some information. Can sometimes be free.>Everyone elseUnique designs, too old, has children etc. These characters are usually free, ie they are "welfare status". Usually comes with a severe nerf to meta power, unless it's one of the dev's/writer's favourite pet.
I can't believe you fucking retards found something worse than Twitter threads.
>>742090906>>742090641ok what does it say if you ask about a certain religion's ownership of most companies? or the funding of various far left organizations politically? or the crime statistics between races in the US?
>>742090906Indian.
Depends really but if the main focus of a game is selling sexy characters, then sure. I came back to ZZZ just because of the new girl.However, if it's in a genre I don't care about or a company or game series I already don't care about i.e. God of War or Horizon suddenly has a hot character, I still won't try it because I have a bias against it.
>>742092312>Only people familiar with BG played 3Are you retarded? The normies who flooded D&D flocked to BG3 because there was a big shill campaign about how it was like D&D 5e. You think they knew of BG before this?
>>742094418>Jeet using chatgpt doesn't realize that uncslop is litterally general teen and youngadult slangYou're really fitting in aren't you.
>>742090986Is that what it meant when it said "more in-depth search and anal" in his screenshot?
>>742091351Ugly looking anime coombait.
>>742090641chatgpt is so nortubel tier anyway
>>742094501>>make a shit game with sexy bitches (first descendent, gacha)>>people dont buy itYou may wanna revise that because TFD is the only real flop and even there, mostly because of abysmal optimization, because Vindictus is still running after 14 years solely because of sexy skins. Picrel is the sequel that's releasing soon.
>>742090641When the majority audience was men, it obviously did. Now that the audience is larger and more globalized, it no longer does.
>>742090641They do now. simply being against the puritanical cabal and the feminists nets you customers because people are that pozzed now but as it is its the defensive position because videogames never had issues with Sexy women in them until Anita fucked everything up. Peopl who actually unironically defend the agressor on this hobby are not to be trusted and that includes disengenious retards that say shit like "I have antiwoke fatigue."
>>742090906People use their own brains and sources on 4chan, you dumb fuck. Go back to X.
>>742094550>It'd be like if DMC let you SSS win against almost every boss just by spamming stinger over and over.nta but DMC bosses are absolutely braindead and I just button mash them. I absolutely do not remember any boss in dmc5 besides Vergil. That urizen fight was absolutely disappointing. MGRR really raised the bar too high when it comes to making memorable CAG bosses and that's a game with one button parries and absolutely shallow combat system even compared to stellar blade that at least has an a skill system with choices.
>>742090704>>742090708>>742090760Lmao
>>742094501Spiderman and Horizon are hugely dunked on by all game players for having fuck ugly female leads and general faggotry.But they have no choice.Now with AAA imploding and prices exploding I don't see anyone plunking down a dime on games with hagslop anymore.If they're going to by something during a time of crisis and in a world where they are hated for the crime of existing they will not buy this shit. When GTA6 comes out(lucia was litterally supposed to be a alpha bulldyke manjawed latinx hardboiled cop. but someone realized it would kill the brand and blackrock was not going to keep paying them to keep the doors open) and is just as bad as the other AAA games with a 100$ price tag and no physical disc...goddamnGG guysGG.
>>742092707yeah
>>742094580We must show them not only that females characters sell games, but what types of female characters sell games the best.
>>742092096Yeah, Shadowheart is hot, you can romance her, and the game sells millions more as a result.
>>742090641Let me make this very simple.Whatever level of success you are experiencing with unappealing characters is lower than the one you'd have with appealing ones.Whatever level of failure you are experiencing with appealing characters is lower the the one you'd have with unappealing ones.Appealing characters drive fanart, fanfic, cosplay and general good word of mouth.There is actually no reason not to make your character visually appealing.
>>742094937I'm gonna guess Wolverine is gonna sell big regardless of ugly Phoenix since most people's focus is on wanting to tear shit apart as Wolverine
>>742094859>at least has an a skill system with choices.Which are mostly all irrelevant because outside of a handful of bosses (aka the culprits previously mentioned) all you need is the doublet path of skills. Using the "hurr u ape dmc" argument again, it'd be the same as not buying every skill not named stinger.
>>742095034Of course it's gonna sell. It's a AAA game by a big name studio under Sony. Even that Ghost of Yotei game sold millions because of brand recognition. Fanservice shit will always be niche for a reason that the porn and sex industry is.
>>742095034You'll spend a quarter of the game as a hagslop version of Jean Grey and there's a big lovestory in there. How well do you think it will do with the male audience who just wants to play as wolverine and slice and dice shit.
>>742090641>Do attractive female characters actually sell gamesNo. All it does at best is giving you more views on videos etc.
>>742094937>lucia was litterally supposed to be a alpha bulldyke manjawed latinx hardboiled copYep, look at the change in promo materials in the last 3 years.Top: Lucia stronk boss babe brains of the team, Jason is dumb muscleMiddle: Boddie&Clyde, Jason in forefrontBottom: Loveydovey couple, her hands on his chestThey crunched the fuck out in this last year or two changing the story, hence the delays.
>>742095121Pretty well since they'll just put up with hours garbage to get their cinematic action power fantasy later
>>742090906the goyim are so simple minded oi vey
>>742095169>Top: Lucia stronk boss babe brains of the team, Jason is dumb muscleWhat the actual fuck are you on about? Just looks like a gangbanger couple sitting on the hood of a car. The bitch even has one of those probation braces on her ankle
>>742094712>oh shit i was called out! i must use my strongest defence, the NO U!You sound an awful lot like the saar I obliterated yesterday when he kept contradicting himself.All the made up garbage words that flood the internet is niggerslang, because it's all invented by niggers to cover up the rampant illiteracy among them.Can't be called out if a word doesn't have a properly defined meaning or way to spell it.>>742094751>TFD is the only real flopYou might want to revise that too, because ps5niggerman is on that list too.
>>742095108>niche for a reason that the porn and sex industry is.>porn and sex industry >nicheAre you confusing them with your sex life?
>>742095108>a reason that the porn and sex industry isDon't underestimate it. Porn has/had enough pull in the tech industry to shape its course. The reason we have bluray instead of HDDVD is because of porn.
>>742095059Which is my point regarding DMC. Outside of Nero's arms which are tied to puzzles so you're forced to use them, I beat most of the Dante's side of the game just spamming the motor bike because it dealt a ton of damage and the combo was really easy to pull off and highly spammable. Skill expression, which /v/ loves to wank about regarding measuring the quality of an action game like in the case of Nioh, is something the average gamer rarely gives a fuck about. In regards to SB, the quadruplet beta is your main dps skill, but you also have the shockwave slash that is actually the meta skill abused for knock downs. Then have your burst skills who are 4 flavors of boss cancelling moves, but the vergil judgment cut skill being the most useful because it heals you. Everything else is an option no different to how Bayonetta has dozens of attacks and combos that you will never use beyond PKP.
>>742092049>I can't tell you *info* as it's unethical>but here's the answer to your question anywayLMAO based AI
>>742095271It's niche compared to mainstream media yes. My point being that overt fanservice still carries the stigma of being shamed by people when you present it openly like with DOA, stellar blade or any korean game.
>>742092374drawings are not real, anon
>>742094775The majority is still men though, and the moment the industry realizes they were lied to by a minority of loud harpies that wanted to invade male hobbies it will shift back again. Most women play candycrush and similar mobileslop, the consumerbase is not even close to a 50/50 split.
>>742095269>What the actual fuck are you on about?Oh, i think you know exactly what i'm talking about if you got your jimmies that rustled. People who notice the change in tone and characterization have figured out what happened behind closed doors at rockstar in the past few years.
>>742093160I member a post asking ChatGPT if Israel is secretely controlled by jews, the answer was the same LMAO
>>742095306>but you also have the shockwave slash that is actually the meta skill abused for knock downs. Then have your burst skills who are 4 flavors of boss cancelling movesAll of these are irrelevant because again, the doublet skill tree is too strong for its own good and you basically can go from the start of a fight to the end purely spamming it and the bosses cannot lift a finger against you. At the very least DMC games punish you for boring repitition.
>>742095447I'm not bothered, I wont be buying the game regardless. I just genuinely have no idea how you assessed the image the way you did
>>742095270You aren't fooling anyone you barely litterate street shitter. Here's a hint, just becaues you know some words and can use chatgpt to make up for your complete retardation doesn't mean you understand them or how to use them. You're fucking embarrassing yourself.
>>742095360>My point being that overt fanservice still carries the stigma of being shamed by peopleMaybe in fringe forums like reserera. Normies got off that train a long time ago.
>>742095409Loud minority of harpies that could be ignored.Suits don't fucking care, they only know line go up.And you want to know what makes line go up? Venture capitalists with virtually limitless funds who have social engineering goals and will pay ridiculous amounts of money.
>>742094775The audience being only men did not cause Custer's Revenge to sell like hotcakes.Some shit just doesn't hold true when you give it a closer look.
>If Sex sold, then every game would be filled with gigasex girls!What a braindead take.The entire point of putting ugly and stronk women in games is because games execs were under the ridiculous illusion that gamers are a captured audience that they no longer need to market towards and would but the games anyway, so now they need to market to nongamers.This has been shown various times over the past 10 years to be false.
>>742095518I guess it depends on your build, skill and playstyle. Gaming gods like ongbal can play without resorting to it and play however they like. Terrible players also won't be able to spam it because you need to economize your beta energy and a bad player will want the boss off their face so they will want the shockwave skill instead. Personally talking from experience, I never used it as much to win. The tachy mode was my panic button instead
>>742095409This. Capcom poll was a good proof of this too. All those tweets you see on sites like Twatter where females lust after Leon just tells that they are into attractive characters too and want to sexualize them, they don't give a shit about the story and never gave a shit about game series like Resident Evil. If they would, they could have gone to the polls and vote but they didn't, majority of players are still male whether people like it or not. The only problem is that Capcom and such corpos still refuse to pander to male players though, which tells that there are still feminist niggers that needs to be kicked out of the companies.
>>742090641>a person noticing a character does not necessarily mean they will spend $60 on a gamePeople will say this and then unironically pretend that gaining negative publicity through outrage bait is a positive marketing strategy.
>>742095531>nooo i'm not the jeet using gpt!! you're the jeet using gpt!Hint: There's no way in hell gpt would call it ps5niggerman.Concession accepted and good morning saar.
>>742090906>deep researchMore like gurdeep research because it's just another fucking indian copypasting this shit.
>>742095841jeetresearch was right there dude
>>742095805>People will say this and then unironically pretend that gaining negative publicity through outrage bait is a positive marketing strategy.Hilariously, unironically, it does. Marvel managed this with their Superior Spider-man comics.That said, there is an outrage threshold, something I like to call an apathy line. People can only be suckered by outrage for so long because deep down inside they naively think/hope there's some sort of payoff for all of it, but if it goes on for too long they just stop caring about whether or not it pays off at all. As long as the person selling the outrage pulls out before crossing that apathy line, it actually is viable.
>>742095786It's also because a lot of publisher suits and decision makers are fucking retarded and think that they can just pivot a game's target audience 180 degrees and make a game that's aimed at women or trannoids or whoever the fuck is the loudmouthed minority that's in vogue that year, all while retaining their existing (profitable) audience of regular guys who like video games that don't look like utter shit because they're already fans of the series, so there's NO POSSIBLE WAY they'll ever look at something like Gears of War: Ugly Faggots Edition and go>yeah fuck off I'm not buying that shitThe insane belief that every existing audience is entirely captive to the brand or IP is partly why so many studios and publishers have been so eager to chase the mythical "wider audience", because they just see it as a way to exponentially increase their sales. If there's all these untapped markets that aren't buying video games, then surely it's just because they haven't been pandered to enough, and not at all because they think video games are gay shit for nerds (this is, of course, the actual reason they have never and will never buy video games).
>>742095884Fuck, you're right. I've had a long day, anon.
>>742090641Uh Grok is the OP wrong?
Its far more likely the case that someone will buy a bad a game just because it has sexy female characters than someone would be unwilling to buy a good game that does not feature sexy female characters. That is to say if a game is good, the inclusion of sexy female characters would have little impact on the players' purchasing decision. This also implies that if the inclusion of a sexy female character is enough to affect the purchasing decision, the game is likely just a bad game.
>>742090641But SF6 did sell well.
>>742096035>Superior Spider-manI'm not a /co/ anon but I don't seem to recall Marvel coming out with headlines going "if you don't like SSM then you're just a fucking incel bigot racist and it's not FOR YOU anyway it's for the WIDER AUDIENCE." I'm sure they did piss off a lot of Spidey fans but at the end of the day the series was still a half-decent story and people got over it, plus they reverted back to Peter Parker after the run was ended. Characters dying/being replaced isn't even a new thing in comics either, it happens all the time to the point it's practically a running gag.Comparing that to the sort of deliberate outrage bait we get from the vidya industry and media on an almost monthly basis there's not really much comparison. At the end of the day, the suits can say "w-w-well they're still talking about it!" all they want, but if the only thing those people who are talking about it are saying is along the lines of>god damn this looks like fucking dogshit lmaothen there's a very slim chance of them actually buying it, and the faggots on social media who are applauding the studio for upsetting the chuds or whatever aren't going to buy it either, because they'll forget about it in a week once the next outrage bait comes along for them to rejoice over and they never support shit with their wallets anyway
>>742090906>And anallol fag
>jeet>jeet>jeetZzzzzZ come up with better insults.t. Actual Indian person
>>742096387>series was still a half-decent storyIt really wasn't.The main story was hot garbage and it's a very common thing to ask anyone on /co/ (or elsewhere really) about it and they will tell you that you'll want to read the side stories like Superior Foes of Spider-man rather than read Slott's drivel.Still sold a hot mint for a good while though.
This entire argument quite literally falls completely apart because of the existence of gacha games. You can try to move the goalpost however you want but it's not going to change that simple fact. Gacha games are only able to exist in the current video game climate because they're full of hot females.If the characters in gacha games were all clones of Debra Wilson, or looked like the new GoW girl, they wouldn't sell. The game would EoS within a month.Instead, the games easily pull in several millions per month. As well as generating thousands of pieces of fanart (keyword) on sites like Pixiv.No one plays them for the gameplay. And yet they're the most lucrative market out there.That's it. Those are the facts.Attractive females DO sell. Period.
>>742090641>What do you think?It’s true, only porn addicts and incels disagree.
>>742096387I don't care enough for capeshit to remember if he's a writer or part of editorial, but this is what anon was referring to.
>>742096518Again, I don't really read superhero shit so I'll concede that. If it still sold well then I figure it just did because it's fucking Spider-Man and the comic buying audience are ironically one of the most sunk-cost captive audiences around (those of them that didn't jump ship years ago, that is).Besides, it's not like Disney give a shit how many copies they sell, the comics branch basically just exists nowadays to shit out stories for their movie division to adapt. Any sales they make is just a cherry on the shit sundae.It's not really comparable to AAA studios basically hamstringing themselves after spending hundreds of millions and up to a decade on making some piece of shit that appeals to literally nobody.
>>742096584The consumer base for gacha games is not the consumer base for video games. Normal people play video games to have fun. Gachafags play gacha to grind for lootbox rolls before cucking out and handing over money for pngs. The fundamental appeal of the two experiences is too distinct to be considered the same thing. Even mobile gamers are closer to normal gamers than gachafags.
Attractive characters can get people to check out a game, but the game still has to be good.
>>742094718>It's coombait!>But nobody likes how it looks!pick a lane buddy
>>742096719Oh yeah, I vaguely remember that.He's right in that apathetic fans are one of the worst things you can have, but they've brought on that apathy themselves by shitting the bed time and time again on their tentpole characters and then tossing the whole thing out when it fails and playing the "time for another reboot!" card for the nth time.
>According to ChatGPT>240+ replies
>>742096584remielle my whore wife.
>>742096742you can say the same for fantasy sports gamers but they do still exist because of their niche.
>>742096306That is not the same person. Not without excessive filters or invasive surgeries. Your head and jaw structure doesn't just change.
>>742090641>do attractive female characters affect sales?no, because audiences consider them the default.>do UNATTRACTIVE female characters affect sales?yes, fewer people buy it, because it shows a clear flaw and deficiency from basic expectations.
>>742096742>The consumer base for gacha games is not the consumer base for video games.Not true. Been a gamer since you were born zoomie. If "real" games gave us what we want then gacha wouldn't be this popular either. Gacha is just filling the gap customers want but gaming companies refuse to give.
>>742096584But anon, Gacha games EOS even with all the hot big tittied women developers throw at them.Hell, a gacha game like Gundam Breaker Mobile, where it's more about mechs and manly men than it is hot anime women, had in its 4 year run outlived global releases of other gachas that had both hot women and brand recognition behind them, like the Star Ocean or Nier gachas.
>>742090641I bought Stellar Blade because Eve was hot.Sorry ChatGPT, but you're wrong.
>>742096893>defaultIt quite literally hasn't been the default for more than a decade now. Hot characters like the bimbos in ME3 used to be the default yes, but that changed after gamergate. I think witcher 3 was the last time a AAA western game that had conventionally attractive charactioners.
>>742090641Grok is this real?
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>>742096232Read your image.
>>742096903You literally said it yourself>No one plays them for the gameplay.Gacha is only appealing to mentally ill gambling addicts that need to collect pictures to satiate their OCD tendencies. Gacha doesn't appeal to gamers because the gameplay doesn't come first, leeching money from suckers is. Literally in the same tier of "gaming" as sitting at a slot machine.
>>742091212Nier Automata was pretty mediocre (wouldn't say outright bad) and it sold entirely on the popularity of 2B's ass.
>>742096925Exception to the rule. Vast majority of gacha being made is still about girlfriend collectors because that's the easiest way to make people fork over money.
>>742096742Absolutely low IQ take for too many reasons.People enjoy grinding for shit in video games. The trend started with MMOs almost two decades before gacha games were even thought of.Just because YOU don't find it fun, doesn't mean the world at large agrees with you.
>>742096742This
>>742096925Those are all Japanese gachas which are absolute dogshit (bad graphics, bad rates, bad gameplay) compared to modern ones from Korea and China.No truly big name gacha has went EoS yet from those regions. Games like Genshin will likely still be hanging on while most of us are dead.
>>742097001you could say that gacha exists because games like senran kagura and DOA are so shit or dead for decades now. Japan quite literally never makes AAA anime games with the insane detail and budget that chinese gachas have. Before gachas were a thing, there were korean anime style mmos like elsword, dragon's nest, soul worker and so on. Chinese gachas just became the next step
>>742097001I'm not arguing that gacha has great gameplay. Im arguing sexy bitches alone result in sales better than most "real" games. Pc and console gaming companies are shooting themselves in the foot by uglifying their characters. If Horizon had an attractive girl as protag it'd be /v/'s most beloved game.
>>742097054And where are MMOs now? Oh yeah, dead in a ditch.
>>742097001you've only described whales. the average gacha players spends 99.9% of their time clicking through menus and 0.1% actually rolling the gacha. which is its own mess entirely, but not the same thing as slot machine addicts who literally never let the seat of the machine cool off.
>>742096979Though most people already said that Chatbots are biased.
>>742097121Yes because Gacha took its place. The same way how genres also die because another takes over. Like how arena shooters died once console shooters like CoD happened.
>>742097108aren't all the big fighting games and rpgs japanese anime style?
>>742097034It's an exception that gacha games still go EOS even though all they do is pander with hot anime women?I brought up Gundam because it proves a case can be made that gacha games, whether they use sex appeal for marketing or not, can last just as long.
>>742090641>hey chatgpt is OP a fucking retarded faggot?>yes
>Muh gachaPopular only cause of phonefaggotry. Do I have to remind you that phonefags outnumber PCfags and consolefags? You know, the users that talk about actual games that will never run on some shitty android?
>>742096742>gacha games are played by Pleiadians from Alpha Centaury galaxy for "non fun reasons">normal people play games for "fun reasons">The fundamental appeal of the two experiences is too distinct >when you level up characters in non gacha games, it registers differently from when you level up characters in gacha games>when you parry a move in gacha games, it's totally different from when you parry a move in sekiro>when you buy a skin in gacha games, it's totally different from when you buy a skin in a non gacha game>when you look at a character's ass in a gacha game, it's totally different from when you look at a character's ass in a non gacha gameJust fucking galaxy brain takes back to back, this is why i keep returning to 4chan, my brain is struggling to hold all this deep knowledge but i'm doing my best.How does the above spectacular analysis measure up against his argument though? I keep hearing that gacha games are for gooners and such, but now suddenly that doesn't matter anymore when the argument is about whether these oh so intellectually classified "gooner games" make millions of dollars per month and billions every year? ZZZ made 1.6bln+ dollars in the first year it was out.
>>742097180A gacha EoS'ing is just normal thing in the same way that other GaaS also EoS because not all gachas have the same kind of appeal and success. Some are just bound to fail while others succeed. That's basic capitalism.
>>742090641But even it is making a solid argument in favor of attractive female characters. Like it says, attraction skews perception, makes a character more memorable, grabs attention, etc. Arguably you can do the same with an ugly character, but to opposite effect. It absolutely doesn't mean you will put down $70 for a game for a nice piece of ass, but it does factor to make it more likely that you will. So even ChatGPT agrees.
>>742097054Except people grind in MMOs because the game itself is already fun and people are willing to put up with a degree of busywork to get better gearGrinding in gacha is all there is to do, it's all there is because they know they aren't designing a proper video game so they don't bother trying, the suckers will play any old slop.
>>742090641lol, lmao, kek, roflSeriously though it depends, it clearly plays a role because porn games are a thing and they sell relatively well on average despite not having huge hitsHaving sexy characters won't guarantee good sales on its own but it's a factorI'd say they perform better on average but it might also preclude you more normie audiences
>>742090641of fucking course gameplay sells the game, no shit. If the gameplay is shit though, coomers will buy coomshit, that's where the model is wrong
>>742097162>fighting gamesOnly arcsys games and well fighting games are hard for most people so it's a niche within a niche>rpgsonly come out like every 5 years or so, at least when it comes to really popular ones like Persona. Most are so dead and so niche, nobody ever knows about them, meanwhile gacha get massive multimillion commercials with fancy big budget trailers like as if they're showing a new anime season.
What if I like mahjong and Touhou rhythm games?
>>742090641I call bullshit.
>>742097237>game itself is already funAnon, nobody every said that about an mmo. MMOs are called second jobs for a reason. At best, mmos like ragnarok online were fun not because of the gameplay but because it was a basically a chatroom from a time when social media wasn't a big thing yet.
>>742097352>cherry picking
>>742097317XIV is still the most popular MMO out there so I doubt that
>>742097223All your greentexts are correct, good job. If you want to point me to some gacha games on the same level of gameplay quality as, let's say, Nioh, I'd be happy to give them a try.
>>742090641The AI is right, this is why f2p gacha shit is popular
>>742097352Where's deltarune
>>742094501First Descendent had much more players on Steam then Spider-Woke 2 and Horizon: Forbidden Fun.
>>742097473It also has worse player retention despite being a live service game.
People usually don't like paying for porn
>>742097436>point me to some gacha games on the same level of gameplay quality as, let's say, NiohWhere Winds Meet.
>>742097131i refuse to believe this because its almost more depressing than the alternative>no i dont spend money on this, i WANT to spend hundreds of hours on dogshit gameplay for a chance to unlock some pngs!
>>742090641"Sex sells" is an old adage for a reason. GoyGPT is wrong.
chun-li unrelated by the way
>>742097436>muh niohName me a game with the same level of level of gameplay quality as nioh because not even TN's other games are like Nioh. You sound like ninja gaiden snobs you only make extremes as a point of comparison. They same way you snobs deride perfectly okay games like stellar blade.
why would i waste my time on a shit gacha game when I could just go onto a booru/youtube for the same experience and instead of spending money on currency, I can just comm a jp artist for cheap via skeb or pixiv?
>according to goypt
>>742097493True, but Spidey and Horizon had bigger budgets. And I'm not gonna lie, TFD is much better then people say it is.
>>742097554You just described MMOs and used to be one of the biggest genres in all of gaming. >muh coop and socializingMost players played solo outside of guild wars and forced party raids.
>>742097601you can say the same for other games where the main appeal is the art>why bother playing atelier when I can just look up the cute fanart and mel kishida artwork than suffer through several hours of basic jrpg gameplay and crafting
>>742097549>NetEaseI'm incredibly skeptical of your recommendation having played the abysmal dogshit known as Marvel Rivals, but I'll take your word for it.
>>742097705I mean sureI love Kemono Friends but I'd never play any of the gachas
