https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/7757/text#toc-H38500CD3A4B0408A8C8EECD985A66A1EWill gamers EVER recover?
Doesn't this shit still need to go through the Senate and then the Pres can still veto it or something?
>tracking and restricting playtime using always online services like SteamAHAHAHAHHAHAHAPOINT AND LAUGH AT THE BUYFAG CATTLE
>>742235773>Nooooo live service games have to have parental controls!!!>Wtf I'm only 13, this sucks ahh!Honestly, I don't care.
>>742235773Don't these people want the birth rates to go up?
>online video gamesjust play single player games lole
It's really a joke to see politicians introducing Trojan horses law like this while doing actually NOTHING for those they pretend to care about. These laws only use are to control people, ALL people.And the US president is one of the main people on that damn list, what a damn joke this all is...
Gachashit needs to be banned entirely. It's literally just child gambling.
I have two questions:does this mean everything I do online would be linked to my government idwould this kill animu torrent sites like nyaa ?
>>742236091>spy kids>safe bots??
>>742235773>muh video games>muh childrenthey should limit the time that boomers consume talk radio and TV news
WHenever they say "it's for the kids!" or "think of the pupper pupper" it's always made to track you for something stronger>>7422361531. Yeah they want to do that heavily2. If you use a VPN, no. They have tried to make VPNs illegal in the past 3 years in the USA
>>742236153Conaidering nyaa site is currently being investigated for child porn, who knows anon, lol.
man I just want to download anime like Slayers, why do they have to do all this shit
>>742236091>>742236179The entire point of these laws is to use term that would feel like you are a monster to refuse in the way they are named. but if you read the actual text it's some dystopian shit. This really has nothing to do with kids. If they wanted kid safe they could have done far better things including BETTER EDUCATION OF THE INTERNET TO PARENTS
>>742235886do you really think the israel controlled senate and israel controlled president are going to veto an israel internet control bill?
Do you have nothing better to do than to get outrage over random dead legislation? Am I going to find this shit on reddit, and that's why it's ended up here?
>>742235773>require parental control options to be set by parentswhats wrong with this?
>>742236351It's literally gone nowhere since it was introduced by some rando in March you stupid tranny. Seriously what the fuck is wrong with losers like you? Why are you constantly looking for bullshit to get outraged by?
>>742236465If you don't fork over your government ID, you won't have access to your own account permissions.
Is this about protecting children or is it about surveillance and data collection?
>>742236549Do you even have to ask this question when you already know the answer?
>>742236549>>742236589It's about nothing because it's going nowhere and it's one of the endless thousands of dead bills. Shut the fuck up. There is nothing to discuss. And this is extremely not about video games.
>>742236351>do you really think the qatar controlled senate and qatar controlled president are going to veto an qatar internet control bill?fix'd
>>742236549>about surveillance and data collectionhow do you prove you are not a kid?
>>742236609Look around the world, they are trying to force laws like this in every countries, when they fail each time, they wait a few month then returnIt WILL influence games if it pass. and this website too
>>742236341Same as it ever was. Everyone who claims they want to protect kids is full of shit and just wants control.
NOOOO STOP LOOKING BEHIND THE CURTAINS! THERE'S NOTHING THERE!
>>742236609
>>742236531Steam already has my credit card info so i'm good there at least. This only really impacts people who use Steam Gift cards or accounts that only get gifted games.
I like how pretty much every single first world country decided at the same time that kids are really important, despite declining birth rates, and that they are going to protect the kids by making the adults give up their personal IDs to verify their age.I fucking hate this gay ass world so fucking much and I hate it more and more every passing day.
Reminder that 4chan and reddit joined in protesting SOPA/PIPA laws. Now in 2026 you have indians actively trying to quell pushback from trojan horse bills like this.
I honestly agree with the idea of kicking children off the internetHowever this is the worst way to go about it and it is clearly just an excuse for further surveillance. I hate the antichrist
>>742236707
>>742236697There has to be a name for this retarded thinking where we need to pretend we're in a reality that does not exist and all discourse must take place in the context of your schizo bullshit instead of what's actually happening. Look up my ass.
>>742236802The fact this all started to be pushed the MOMENT the terrible list released is like the cherry on the pile of crap.If you told me in 2020 that the world would have gone like that, I would have thought I had gone nuts to even think that
>>742235886why the hell would trump veto this you moron
>>742235886Barron Trump is your only hope now
>>742236848The simple fucking answer is: DON'T LET YOUR KIDS USE THE FUCKING INTERNET UNSUPERVISED IF YOU ARE THAT FUCKING WORRIED ABOUT THEM SEEING PORN.WHY THE FUCK CAN PARENTS NOT BE FUCKING PARENTS.
>>742236731Are you a stupid nigger?
btw, look into Project 2029. It is full of crap like this because the dems are banking on everyone desperately voting trump's party out. Centrist chads won again sadly.
>>742236960its not MY job to parent my kid
>>742236984it was passed 3 hours ago, the website hasn't been updated retard
>>742236998I don't think this has anything to do with political wings, you can find supporters of this both with conservatives, centrist and liberals
>>742236986My country doesn’t give a fuck about me, why should I do anything for them?
>>742236341Oi you aren't actually against the "Stop violence and rape against children" act are you? You arent some kind of pedo that wants children to raped and murdered are you? Also it would be very antisemitic of you to try arguing clause 73 of the bill which allows the government to place keyloggers on all of your devices (to prevent pedos from searching for kids, give local police all of your banking and social security information (to prevent pedos from buying child hookers), and install cameras in every room of your house (to catch pedos before they rape) is bad.
>>742237051IT GETS UPDATED INSTANTLY YOU STUPID NIGGER DUMB FUCK FAGGOT CUNT
>>742236986I don't give a flying fuck about my country. I just want to get through my life and die.
>>742236531where does it say that?
>>742237063It's opportunistic at the very least, establishment dems are no better than the other side. They only push this now because they know how desperate people are getting.
>>742235773At least I'll always have 4chan
>they're actually going to ban videogameskek, you got what you voted for
>>742235886No Duty of Care. So this shit is going to die in the Senate.It's just something the house pushed through so they can say "they tried"
>>742237136speed run it faggot
I have thought a lot about lately why now and why like this.It's clearly coordinated by western countries, no matter if leftwing or rightwing is ruling right now, which to me implies they are doing it because of something they know and we the normal people do not.My personal theory is they have completely and utterly lost control over the internet, everything is bots from top to bottom.Bot traffic, bot commenters, bot watchers, bot social media, bots talking to botsIn their eyes the only way to stop this is to ensure only humans have a marker that shows they are a legitimate internet user.I acknowledge this solution would work but i am asbolutely not willing to give up my privacy nor give big tech even more power
>>742237202which party is against this? this shit is bipartisan btw
>>742235773>lost the youth and middleaged culturally>blatant, unconstitutional attempt to kill what's left of speech and privacy>know it's unpopular, the goylems bragging about voting in favor of it are getting ratio'd>been weaseling it through the state level for over a year, attempting a federal level speedrun anywayAll of that and they're still trying to force it down our throats. Why do you think that is? Recognize what part of their game you're in. Make your peace w/ that and decide what YOU are willing to do about it.BTW, If you think the manufactured hardware shortages aren't also part of this playbook, you're retarded. Ditto data centers and the rest of it. It's about as subtle as their 2020 push.
>americalmao
>>742236986I'd imagine these people are completely in the dark on why weebs are more commonplace than ever before.
>>742236707How the fuck is a website responsible for a USER using a VPN??
>>742237120>>742236984nevermindStop with your Autism
>>742235773Oh great. More useless control that parents should be monitoring instead of ignoring in the first place.
>>742237120So where are these articles saying it passed the House coming from?
yea there is no "protesting" this shit away like sopa. gaming is dead
>>742236960The reality is that most parents are just flat out shitty, lazy, awful people.It's sad, but it's the truth.
>>742237249They are funding the bots anonchama
>>742236986There it is. They want kids to stop being distracted by video games so they can be trained in the army instead.
>>742235773>WELL WE'LL JUST VOTE TRUMP AND THE EBIL CHRISTKEK CONSERVATIVES OU-https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5945564-democratic-project-2029-calls-for-child-social-media-ban-strict-kids-safety-rules-on-tech/You're not going to get away from this. ZOG demands its Palantir-powered surveillance state and the wrangling of the free internet.
>>742235773Does this mean Fortnite and other games that are technically Mature are going to drop fucking dead now that their entire strategy revolved around catering to children and manchildren with MTX and such, or is this going to equate to nothing outside of stripping more "freedoms" from people that never had them to begin with outside of the illusion?
If they want to protect children, release the Epstein Files and arrest everyone guilty there
>>742237378THEY are the bots btw.
>>742237275Why is he pretending to care about children lol
>>742237249This does nothing about that. A bot can be given an ID, it makes no difference when the sites WANT bots. Why do you think the IP counter is gone? Any site can easily stop bots just limiting posting.
>>742235773>Limit the amount of time spend by such covered user on such interactive online video gameThat already existsIt's called the Power Button you dumb boomer fucks
>>742237372There's no protest because most people are not even aware of that. literally almost no media talks about this.People will be angry but they will realize it far too late, and laws like this are very hard if not impossible to remove once established
>>742237063There's one specific thing in common with the politicians that push for this thing, and it isn't left or right wing.
>>742237420The strategy is to target whales who make up most of their profit despite only being an minority of the player base.
>>742237423>implying it's about protecting children
>>742237114You do not have a loicense for this post. We have your IP and Abdullah will be at your door in fifteen minutes. Failure to comply by the third bong will be understood as a forfeit of your living quarters and they will be used for newly imported migrants. God save the queen
>>742236609it passed the House just today
>>742236430>dead legislation>just passed the house with flying colorsyou dumbass
>more and more restrictions>In addition to prices that goes extremely high>People literally won't be able to have hobbiesSurely they must realize this will make some people extremely pissed and even more unproductive, right?
>>742237447This does do something about that because the bills contain a trojan horse with digital IDIf that system is used merely linking a digital id to your social security number you can then differentiate between real users and fake users.
>>742237479>thinks protesting would've worked anywayLmao.
>>742237114That act unfairly targets trans folk
Reminder this is the same congress bought and sold by AIPAC who funds genocide talking about """safeguards for kids""". L'Chayim! You cannot, do not, and will not ever hate them enough.>>742235960It never stopped me matey.
>>742236648Jesus christ Larry Loomer posts here
>>742236648this is just retarded ball playing and you reveal to be american. just because your president sucks qatary cock it does not mean that his anus is not property of israel.
>>742237635They seem to think that they are going to motivate people into doing things such as getting a job, when the reality is that it will just hit a point where people will just lay in bed all day and stare at a ceiling. People aren't going to participate in society unless they can get something out of it, and right now people aren't getting anything out of it.
>>742236351Trumpstein would sign whatever landed on his desk but this will die in the Senate.
So why not put steam in offline mode
me --- proxy --- tor --- proxy --- website
>>742237479Plenty of sites talk about it. There's no protest because zoomers who grew up on mass social media are already acclimated to having no privacy on the internet. This is the TikTok Dance generation for fuck's sake. They literally don't understand why older more tech-savvy internetizens think this is a big deal.
>>742237705More like>Turns off internetWhat now?
>>742237771that's exactly what they want, good job
Why are they trying to turn America into loicense land?
>>742237706nope >>742236707
>>742237747As someone born in the early 90s. I remember my elementary school making us go through an online safety course and the number one thing they hammered into you was: Don't give your personal information out online, and now we just give that out like nothing.
>>742237747At least a large part of Zoomers would be against this too, Zoomers goes up to 30 years old starting this year. 1996, enough to browse the internet in the late 2000s and early 2010s, which was very different from what you are describing.Most mainstream medias are quiet about it.
>>742237747I don't think it's as generational as you might think, anyone familiar enough with the internet is protesting this bullshit no matter what generation they came fromt. zoomer
>>742237804>why are people in Power giving themselves more Power?Why can't you answer the breakfast question?
>>742237479The only thing that will change or not be enforced properly is the time limit restriction. Mostly because deadbeat parents don't give a fuck and would even resent not being able to just shuffle their kids off to the PC and leave them alone.>>742237635The target is not you, it is the kids who will just be used to not having free access to internet and cope by doing physical activities. This is an entire generation grooming plan to acclimate them to the old cable tv standard.
>>742237829yep, they cant stop i2p
>>742237886I wonder who doesn't want us talking about this
seems they are also using this to censor the fentanyl crisis, as to actively remove references to it to everybody
>>742237886Nooooooo!!! Anon!!! You're going to send everyone here to prison!! Yamete!!!
>>742235773Stop trying to contact minors online.
>>742237943Yet.
>>742237956Gets more blatant by the day. The Noticing is very non-kosher. I wonder what the epstein files had to say about 4chan....
>>742235992>>742236153>>742237843It’s Chinese level control, you will require ID to play pass 2 hours.
>>742237983stop defending literal billionaire pedophiles
>>742237983Literally this, even if they contact you first through apps, unironically block them. Get the fuck out of that situation as it 100% never ends well for you.
>>742237983you know the people pushing this legislation are the ones raping minors right
>>742238008what are they going to do, block everyone from connecting to anything outside 3 major websites?
>>742237167Anon, are you stupid? These "safety" bills basically state that you must always assume a user is under 18. The only way to verify they're over 18 is to provide a credit card or government ID, and do AI facial scans. They claim that none of that information ever leaves your device, yet the same legislation also demands the company keep a record of it for LEOs. They 100% store your ID even when they try and claim they don't. And of course, they sell said data. Their entire business model is built around making a digital profile/digital ID of you. They'll know every twitter shitpost account you have, every porn account you have, every game account you have, every single thing. You'll need ID to use the internet by default, thus you'll be digitally tracked every second you're online with no anonymity. >>742236707Post the follow up where they delayed that law because there was no way to actually enforce it, and pornhub brought them to court. They've delayed it until september, where it'll get shelved because it's literally impossible to enforce.https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/04/utahs-new-law-regulating-vpns-goes-effect-next-week
>>742236148Gacha isn't even gambling anymore. Once you hit whatever pity mechanic the game has (which isn't hard to do fore free). There are no slots in Vegas that guarantee the payout after 100 pulls.
I don't know what will be worseFor those who used the internet 15-20, or even 30 years ago, who knew how different it used to be. Who will always remember in their memory of a time that will never be back.or for the new generations who will NEVER know how things used to be, they only will be told but never lives it. because I can't see things returning the way they were with all these laws incoming. At least in most places.If it's as bad as what is told, Nothing good will come from this. If anything it could make things even more unsafe for some.
>>742238008For as long as you can voice/vid call they can't stop proxies
>>742237703>people will just lay in bed all day and stare at a ceiling. Chinks already have their gaming controlled by the CCP and they started the tang ping (lying flat) movement.
>>742236648>do you really think the Equatorial Guineacontrolled senate and Equatorial Guineacontrolled president are going to veto a Equatorial Guinea internet bill?FTFY
the law seems to be written well, there is only one weird thing about it, and there is protections for normal users. i hope it means games like fornite and GTA6 are kill though. This will make any developer making multiplayer titles worse off, since they have to face punishment directly if a user bypasses anything they enable by default
>>742237884>kids who will just be used to not having free access to internet and cope by doing physical activities.No, they'll still be addicted to social media, it'll just be a more pervasive, angry, and passively resistant addiction, kind of like what's going on in China.
>>742238090yes, they'd love thatthat's how it works in the uk, the legal requirements to run a social media website means that smaller forums and such can't afford to exist at all
We really do live in a Dystopia, except we got none of the cool shit that is usually associated with Dystopias like body mods.
>>742238228>We really do live in a DystopiaAnd have for at least 80 years, yes.
>>742238090NTAI will be generous and assume he means at a hardware level or kernel level block on i2p but people have tried that already. i2p isn't a server as it is just a setup to form a network between people.
>>742238228technically it's been that way since snowden
>>742237706>downloads websites at 5 bytes/secondSomehow.. Dialup returned...
If you told me 10 years ago the world would have rushed so many unsafe and stupid laws like that, I would have laugh at my own face for even considering something so unlikely...
>>742238228have for a while buddy
>>742238052Waffles and pancakes or something
>>742238284>technically it's been that way since RooseveltFixed.
>>742238310Good, so many people waste memory making shit.
>>742236960This, although the internet is a completely different place than when I was a kid. Oh my gosh, I can't imagine how tough it is being a kid now with prevalent social media and internet access, and now a push for surveillance states. Just let them play games and leave the parents in charge of their own kid, goodness gracious.>>742236986Reminds me of pic related
Here's the tally by the way:https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2026/roll228.xmlI looked at my state representatives, and the only people who voted nay were the "socialist" Democrats who are hardcore progressives, so I guess at this point I'm going to be voting for DSA members permanently.
>>742235773I'm not paying my taxes if this shit goes through, nor should anyone who cares about his freedoms.Hopefully >>742237206 is right and infighting between the house and senate euthanizes this nigger-faggot horseshit.
>>742236960>WHY THE FUCK CAN PARENTS NOT BE FUCKING PARENTS.It's almost like 1. it's a collective problem, not an individual one, and 2. however real the problem is, it's not their true motivation. Watch as you selectively focus on only one of those points because you're not mentally ready to hold two truths in equal regard.
>>742238545>It's almost like 1. it's a collective problemYes, and the problem is that collectively, most parents aren't worth shit.
>>742235773it's more worrysome that every service that has an account "should have known" someone was under 18 or not, meaning mandating ID verification broadly.this bill will cause innocent citizens suspected of no crimes to be surveilled closer than a cartel kingpin without any judge ever signing a warrant. it's the death of every citizen's basic civil rights.
>>742238586No.He means that shitty parenting is just a pretext.
>>742238095Legally, there are. Iirc pachinko is like 90% return rate or smth
>>742238586Correct. Why are they better at addressing that issue than (You) are?
>>742238598i think that's why they are using AI to determine if an account is underage or not for a majority of services.
>>742238631And it's a good one, because it's common.
>>742238645Addressing that issue would mean just killing or arresting all of the shit parents, not locking down the internet.But like you said, we both know that's not why they're doing this, they're largely doing this to stop goyim from anonymously shit-talking our greatest ally, thus signaling that it's okay to shit-talk said "ally" to society at large.They think social media is why people hate Jews now.
>>742237373Absolutely true. The only good thing about being a teacher is getting to remind shitty parents that they are fucking morons.
most parents have always been lazy shits but also how is a parent supposed to parent nowadays when you need two incomes working more than half their waking hours to support a family (one not in the poorhouse) and schools are actively making your kids worse
>>742238598>(7) KNOW; KNOWS.—The term “know” or “knows” means to have actual knowledge or to have acted in willful disregard.They need actual knowledge.
You dumb goyim have seen nothing yet. Soon you will all be nothing more than slave cattle. Your only lot in life will be to work and then die in a war. All the rights and freedom you think you have now will be no more.And there is nothing you can do to stop us.There was one among you who was a thread to us, but in your stupidity you killed him, thus sealing your fate.
>>742238827Oh no not Oliver Tree!!
>>742238709>Addressing that issue would mean just killing or arresting all of the shit parents, not locking down the internet.At a glance, what sounds easier?>they're largely doing this to stop goyim from anonymously shit-talking our greatest allyI think there's more pressing issues at hand. Like a certain mass-injection experiment coming home to roost...
>>742238827I'll just kill myself. Enjoy your fucking retarded world of East Indians.
>>742238728it defines knows as should have known in multiple sections.
>>742238827I can't believe Harembe was the key to all of this
>>742238897>At a glance, what sounds easier?Killing people is extremely easy, our government does it all the time.
weird. americans were saying this would never happen one week ago
>>742238827Hope you'll enjoy the consequences of managing a class of people that has nothing worth living for. Every individual has the potential of being another Luigi's Mansion.
>>742239026Where?
>>742239061on 4chin
>>742238868
>>742239086I always see dual threads saying both things will and will not happen so you just read like someone who selectively chooses to only believe it would never happen.
>>742237747I think that's only true for a soft majority, at most. Plenty have been dragging their feet on the implementation of this control grid on Roblox and shitcord.Either way, TPTB would prefer as many as possible roll over w/ no resistance at all. And as other anons pointed out, can't vooot our way out of this and can't hide from it either.
>>742238920You will not be allowed to, goy. Every thought you have, every action you take will be tightly monitored. An electric signal will be sent to your brain through your slave collar and temporarily shut off your cognitive and motor functions the moment you even think of suicide. You will live when we tell you and die when we tell you.
>>742238921Either my browser is fucked or we are looking at different things. Op's link is showing 0 results for the word "should" for me.
>>742239086>americans>on 4chinThis place is full of bots and pajeets. It's hard to find genuine discussion anymore.
>>742239168>think of suicide>free nap>wake up>think of suicide>free nap>wake up>eat>think of suicide>free napWhat are you gonna do, kill me?
>>742238598Yes that's the idea.
>>742239250we are, i was looking at the version on house . gov, while the one in OP is congress . govif OPs is the one that got passed that would be nice, which version is the current
the enshitification of your life will continue until morale improves
>>742235773Now you're just like Best Korea and China
ai is the antichrist
>>742236648Damn I had no idea AIPAC actually stood for American Qatar Political Affairs Committee.
>limiting how much time kids are allowed to play games per day instead of letting parents decideLiteral China tierWhat kind of turd world government is this shit from?
I mean this effectively means Roblox is gonna fucking die, which is a good thing at least. But also Roblox is the main reason why this is happening due to how many kid hunters were able to get free CP from kids through chat rooms austroturfed onto their front page.
>>742239298No but we'll make every waking moment so miserable, you'll wish you could die.>free napFuck!
>>742239419>letting parents decideThey already do. What, you think they're forbidden from it?
>>742235886So here's how laws work>1. someone in a committee proposes a bill, literally anyone can do this at any time, requires no skill>2. The committee has to agree on the bill to go to a vote to the house/senate, this requires work getting like a dozen people to vote in favor of it>3. Goes to House/Senate, here you have to actually get a couple hundred people to pass it, assuming no one does some retarded shenanigans like tack on shitty riders, filabuster, or take an extended vacation >4. If it passes the house or senate, the other one has to pass the same bill, but they can make alterations on the bill and pass it in their own group>5. If the two versions of the bill are different the two have to agree on settling the differences so it's one single bill>6. Then the president has to sign it, if he vetoes it and it didn't pass like 99-1 then you're fucked>7. Then you have to hope the supreme court at some juncture doesn't look at your bill and decide it's unconstitutional
>>742239435>Roblox is the main reason why this is happening>unironically thinking roblox is the main reasonit is only one of the excuses, far from being the reason
>>742237703>people will just lay in bed all day and stare at a ceiling*go out and destroy public infrastructure for their entertainment because they have nothing else to do
>>742239351the version the got approved is the one you are looking atwhich is why one is from march while yours is from an hour ago
>>742239561Public ally with the "it's for the kids!" justification. There are those podcasts with government agents talking about shit with the hosts, including CIA/FBI agents, and they talk about Roblox often with it being a "pedo haven"
>>742239583You won't do shit
>>742239636then we are really fucked, because the one i was looking at is worse for us.
>>742239638>excusesYes, that's what he said.
>>742236986people are trying to get work, they are just not getting any because companies only hire imported pajeets
>>742239767Maybe you should lower your standards then. Grab that broom and start sweeping.
age verification is compelled speech how is this constitutional??
>should we hold parents responsible for their children?>no, it is the private business who is to blame
>>742239831you don't have to use any of these services
>>742239873i dont need to work either
>>742239919you already don't
>>74223996767
>>742239872>should we hold parents responsible for their children?>we should, but this is easier and gives us more PowerFixed.
>>742239994see you're a zoomer, your entire life is already online why pretend you care about privacy now
Won't they just move on to watching streamers then?
>>742240036tell me one thing about my life
>>742240053I think they want to kill the gaming industry since streaming is more controlled and cheaper to maintain
>>742240089ok link me your steam profile
>>742238094>These "safety" bills basically state that you must always assume a user is under 18Can you point out where this one does that?
>>742240129why would i have a steam profile
>>742239994Based response
>>742240161why are you in a thread that doesn't concern or apply to you?
>>742240127>I think they want to kill the gaming industryFinally
>>742240207what makes you think that about me
>>742235773why does this matter to grown adults? we're all adults here, right?
>>742240287Post you ID here now. You won't.
>>742237275>michigani thought this state was left leaning wtf
>>742240287Prove you're not a kid, then. What, don't want your ID tied to everything you say and do online? Too bad, you did it for the kids.
>>742240325>>742240448do you freak out when a cashier asks for ID to buy a pack of cigarettes too?
>>742240417America is leftist in its foundation, and guess what?
>>742240448Back in the old days it was called for the lulz...
>>742240492I'm not a smoker. But do you?
>>742239831supreme court doesn't give a shit, when this issue came up in 2004 with COPA the supreme court ruled that burdening adult's access to content protected under free speech is unconstitutional, when texas did their age verification law recently, the supreme court had a change of heart, they decided that it's not that big of a deal to add some burden to your right to free speech as an adult.
For every low-iq retard in the thread who doesn't get it, no one involved in this bill actually cares about the children. It's all an attempt to boost government control and surveillance, and the "keep children safe" angle is just to try and get support from boomers who don't read past the headline.
>>742240535No, I don't smoke either.
>>742235773>"Make sure that it's called 'kids' so that everyone will vote for it"Fuck these faggots
>>742240492>a random cashier>a faceless database gathering every info tied to your ID waiting to be hacked/leaked or used against you
>>742235773What are the odds that this somehow ends up killing all private servers? You'd have to fucking doxx yourself while "stealing" a game to play on them or else they'd get shut down, right?>>742236148So were arcades where you'd gamble money for tickets.
>>742235773>all this shit because people posting bad things about Israel in video games and social mediaStreisand effect incoming.
>>742240492The cashier isn't putting my ID into a database and tracking everything I do with it. You know that, though. :)
>>742240616>>742240652>he doesn't knowa lot of places scan your ID when you buy alcohol or cigs
>>742240492There's a reason you won't post it, and its because you value your privacy, right? That is what they are saying.Now imagine you have to post your ID every time you do literally anything. Want to open your microwave? Show your ID/face scan. Go online? Show your ID. Did you make a crass joke in public? That's tied to your ID. Say something off color in your own home? That's tied to your ID too. That sound creepy and invasive? That's because it is, just like having to post your ID to access the internet.
>>742240672Not every place
>>742240672They're not tracking you, dumbas, they can't with a one time scan. Try harder, rabbi.
>>742240673If everybody else in this thread posted their ID I wouldn't mind posting mine as well. I don't see why I should be singled out. >>742240705And?>>742240772How do you know that?
The land of the free, everybody
>>742240802And therefore the ID is not being scanned
>>742240827A "Government of freedom" was always a subversive oxymoron, yes.
>>742235886Trump and his ilk hate vidya because young men want to play video games instead of dying for israel
>>742235773why does it feel like no one cares about this? remember the response to SOPA in 2012? the entire internet united against it. does no one care anymore?
>>742240802>I don't see why I should be singled outbecause you're defending itif you really thought it was a good thing you would reply with a picture of your id, but you never will because you're a disingenuous shill
registers have to respond to a server to track financial transactions, including cash ones, and it's back up to a centralized server for the corperation's district which also backs it up to a centralized one for the overall company in their HQ
>>742240952And?
>>742240995If you buy beer your ID is recorded across 50+ different servers from corperate to governmental. IDs are being recorded for basic shit all of the time.
>>742240131Here, this is the bit where they talk about verifying age. Note that while they say these companies aren't REQUIRED to take government IDs to verify age, that's legalese for, "But you still have to let them AI scan your face or take a credit card to verify your age, and if a third party vendor is getting tricked by gmod models, you're legally responsible." Thus, they will demand your credit card rather than your ID. It doesn't matter, they build a profile of all of your accounts and online activity and tie it to your bank account so the government can come in and shut your assets down for wrongthink when the inevitable legislation comes in later down the line.https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/7757/text#HC3C5BD16B22C46A99996F441FB4867EB
>>742240952And how are they tracking you? If you buy something that doesn't require ID, that's just a faceless transaction. No so online, one ID submission and everything you do will be tied to that ID and your IP.
>>742241057Only if scanned
>>742240952>>742241057they don't photograph your id unless you're in a particularly criminal area or somethingI've never seen it myself
>>742240827How's that AC working for you?
>>742236960Because this is not and has never ever been about children.
>>742240952Ranjesh they don't even fucking look at my ID to buy beer let alone put it in a computer and if they did I would not fucking go there ever.
>>742238827Can't tell if you're talking about some alt-right faggot or if you're a boomer still huffing copium over JFK
>>742241057when i get ID'd they just look at the picture with their eyes and that's the end of it. or they look at my grey hairs in my beard and don't bother asking.
>>742235960Piracy really is going to be the only uncucked way to play video games in the future. This is why everyone who is against it is a subhuman.
>>742240929I feel like the whole net neutrality thing was a bigger deal than this even though this is much worse
>>742240870That doesn't answer if you freak out when they do scan your ID. Are you truly that autistic?>>742240941Posting my ID on an anonymous board is not equivalent to everybody registering with ID to play a video game. >>742241102>that's just a faceless transaction>he thinks his credit card information isn't tied to his identity
>>742240929I think it's nihilism and inaction. Look at Stop Killing Games, people got so hyped but they were shot by demoralization in the end because they didn't get a EU law so some gave up.
>>742239831Constitution is a dead letter and has been for over 30 years
>>742241267>Posting my ID on an anonymous board is not equivalent to everybody registering with ID to play a video game.it inevitably is
>>742240929Mass demoralization, people are tired of carrying their billions fell for it badges.
>>742240929The internet wasn't flooded by browns yet. And Social media was still in relatively young, no algorithms pudhing slop and outrage content for example. Also extreme division in the political side where it's just treated as glorified sportsball and consolewar shit.
>>742241267Why would I let them take hold of my ID?
>>742235773>Restrict purchases and financial transactions by such covered user.This might actually save video games.
>>742241287No, because if the database leak you're afraid of ever happens, that will include thousands of customers that everybody will be too lazy to actually go through. Website leaks happen all the time and nothing ever happens.
>>742235886It might never reach a vote in the House, let alone the Senate.
>>742241326To purchase alcohol.
>>742241267>Posting my ID on an anonymous board is not equivalent to everybody registering with ID to play a video gameAn actual fucking idiot. What makes you think an anonymous board won't required your ID
>>742235773>muh hecking freedom and liberty not like the authoritarian commiekek chink and mutt are really 2 sides of the same government. Both want to control its citizens like 1987
>>742240929There's no penalty for proposing a law again and again and again until it passes. They just did it until people became exhausted.
>>742241364that's where ai comes in - it will do the busy work of scanning everyone, and you will be categorized.
>>742235773>WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN>don't have children>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT, WHO'S GOING TO WAGEKEK FOR OUR SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS AND RENT
>government doing this shit>also taking away my healthcare>also charging tariffs for my anime figurescivil war 2 when?
>>742241415I didn't know your people needed to use their hands to see ID information, where I live they can just use their eyes
>>742241418see, we're different because we outsourced our mass surveillance to private for profit companies who make some extra money on the side reselling it to data brokers and the law enforcement when they want to get around those darned warrants signed by a judge
>>742241458Never. They'll keep everyone fat, retarded, and drugged out their minds. I am not any better btw. I engage in copious escapism through vidya.
>>742235773Every time you see any law about limiting something for underage people, the immediate actual thing they are trying to do is "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" while implementing ID checks for everyone.
>>742241415>To purchase alcohol.But they simply see that I'm an adult who looks over 25 and sell me the alcohol, they don't see my ID...
>>742241503The text is small and it's easier to read it up close. >>742241527This is illegal.
>>742241571>The text is small and it's easier to read it up close. And?
4chan isn't truly anonymous anyways, hasn't been forever. it's only anonymous between users... a digital id is completely feasible.
>>742235886Given the “THINK OF THE KIDS” framing there’s no way in hell anyone can go against it without being framed as someone who doesn’t care about kids and thus commit career suicide. Doesn’t matter what arguments you make, good or bad, anyone can retort with “oh, so you WANT kids to be vulnerable on the internet”
>>742241612>he doesn't know about proxy posting
What do they think people are gonna do when they can't ignore how shitty the world is now by playing vidya and jacking off
>>742241603Do I have to walk you through everything? Do you need help wiping your ass too?
>>742241643the majority of posters are retards that solved google captchas whiled logged in their google accounts
>>742240131Read between the lines you dense motherfucker, if a law states you MUST restrict something for minors, then you either:>1) restrict nothing, break the law>2) restrict it for everyone, because you have no idea who is and isn't a minor>3) find a surefire way to determine who is and isn't a minor (ie, face scans or ID services) and only restrict it for themJust asking for the user's birthday or "Are you 18+ years old?" isn't cutting it anymore, because these laws make the service providers liable even if users lie about their age.
>>742241612only if you're are a mutt citizen cause what the glowniggers are going to do, sent their agents to a foreign country to track me down? Good luck doing that in my thirdworld shithole
>>742241656Don't you have moving arms?
>>742241689even if you aren't logged in, Google uses device fingerprinting to track users, even through multiple devices
>>742241649That's a question they're hoping AI will figure out for them.
>>742241649Pretty sure that's the point. Great Reset isn't gonna start itself.
>>742241458You can't even work a part time job, how are you gonna fight in a war pansy?
>>742241742Jesus christ, you are autistic as fuck.
>>742241762You can spoof it
>>742241854nobody does this though
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>>742241057Just don't talk to old cashiers at grocery stores. Problem solved.
>>742241057no, but keep lying