Say thank you Gabe Newell for being responsible for killing physical video games.
I bought the Orange Box. Thank you Gaben for the amazing deals.
>>742336219>Sony does something shitty >blame Valve for it
thank you gabe, an SSD filled with games is better than having 1200 discs scattered around the house
>>742336219Thanks ,you fat piece of shit!
Snoys are in full damage control today.
>>742336704you'll regret it when you lose access to your digital library in 100 years
>>742336219this thread is jewish
OP really is spamming these threads on cooldown after seeing the news about sony KWAB
>buy drm free game on steam>burn it onto a dvdwhat now retard
>>742336219You made the same thread already>>742336426 and when you didn't have it go your way you made this on.I'll respond in the same way:You fuckers need to deal with your own problems without finding a scapegoat
your response?
>I can purchase a game in my underwear from my desk on on 2am friday with 3 clicks and download it and play it in 3 minutes with my gigabit interneti don't want a disk, and timmy/snoy/tel aviv shills stop pretending that physical media didn't have drm
>>742337065Shit man, I'm dead and Gaben's digital brain copy just unlisted all my games from Steam.com. Fucking unbelievable >turns in my grave
>>742342534Gaben's eternal neural network would never
>>742336219Snoys blame everyone but not sony
>steam begins using anti-consumer practices"Oh well">install EpicWhat's your contingency, Sonybro?
>>742336219thanks obama
>>742336704its not tho because you can resell them
>>742342683NOOOOOO SHUT UP
>>742343153>I like having a collection of games>why?>SO I CAN SELL ITGod. Go rent a tape from blockbuster you ginormous fag.
>>742336634>>742337001>>742342683valve created the coffin and sony was the final nail
>>742343341youre retarded. a physical collection is objectively more valuable and soulful
>>742343385Valve created the coffin but knows it can't jump in.If it does, then Epic can unironically win.If Epic jumps in, then Gog can winSo on and so forth.The multiple storefronts on PC is why this can't happen as easily.
>>742340026>>buy drm free game on steam>buy drm free on drm store?????
>>742343523>but knows it can't jump in.Makes no sense as they all have no physical so they did jump in
>>742336219WHERE IS MY HEAVY UPDATE YOU FAT FUCKING FUCK???
>>742343676They all have no physical media but none of the trappings of digital only.Steam knows it can never have a contract with a company to remove their games from everyone's steam accounts because to pull the rug out from their customers like that is to invite them to seek out a better service.Customers of PS have nowhere else they can run to.
>>742342683Just as Tim intended when he made this thread.
these timmybots are getting annoyingdoes your fucking store even have a shopping cart yet timmy?
>>742341263A mere $1,600,000,000? That's pennies!
>>742336219The only ones to blame here are snoys for buying 80% of their games digital.
>>742343794>none of the trappings of digital only.Oxymoron, digital only is a trapping
>>742344053No it isn't, dipshit.The trappings of digital media is lack of consumer protection.
>>742336219I'm happy about this, snoys get fucked, they get even less arguments on console wars and now PC has absolutely 0 downsides if you're not a teenager without a salary. It's over, if you're still on PlayStation after this you're either poor or a retarded fanboy because you don't even have exclusives.
>>742336219say thank you to shit like GFWL for being responsible for Steam
>>742344114No the trappings are all my media are tied to one account. You can't trade or transfer or sell anything in your account. You are trapped in that account
>>742344170>now PC has absolutely 0 downsideslol that shit cost $4000
>>742344634>you have to pay more for a better productStop the presses.
For me the thing that really tipped the scales in favor of digital gaming were wireless controllers. Not having to deal with physical media on PCs was not a huge deal to me but when I started using wireless controllers, the idea of doing everything from the controller from powering up the console to selecting a game and profoundly shifted how I want to engage with a console.
>>742336219Thank you based Gabe for destroying my hobby!Seriously though, fuck pc gamers. You motherfuckers ruined this industry single handedly.
>>742345201You're so fucked if you see this happening and think PC is what you should be angry at.
>>742345201How did pc gamers singlehandedly destroy the industry?
>>742345201PCs were always gay office machines. Sorry for the damage.t. a computer gamer
>valve sells a ps5 0.5 cube at 1000 bucks without the loss >sony days later say the piss 6 will not be sold at a loss LMAO
>>742344878>better product lol its a worse experience
>>742345363Gabe showed you can get away with no physical and people won't care
>>742345573they literally said ps6 will be sold at a loss just not a "significant" loss, ps6 cost like $960 to make so expect a $900 price tag
>>742345363>not buying physical when it was available >enabling bad practices from every valve gaas shit games>flocking to WoW instead of playing and buying physical PC games available>not owning consoles to keep the hobby healthy>being fat ugly retarded nigger shitskin third worlders
PCBROS ARE IN THE HOUSE TONIGHTSONY KEKOLDS GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME
>>742345904The controller will not be sold separately unlike the shit cube. Possibly the disc drive will for BC.
>>742344550No that's strictly a consoletard problem. Untying my games is as simple as replacing a single dll. And half my purchases dont even need that anyway
>>742336219
>>742346007Bro you have no physical for 20+ years, what are you on about
I don't get what's the issue is for sonybois?You were buying licences anyway with your always needing connection to verify ownership consoles?Nothing changes. You still own nothing.>b-b-b-ut steam and gabeYea, we still have choice to buy outside of it. Can you say the same about your closed system?
>>742346060trvke
>>742336219>gayben somehow forced playstation to commit sudoku 22 years after steam's creationTHANK YOU GAYBEN
>PC hasn't had physical media in decades now>because PC themselves don't have CD drives anymore>somehow sony being jewish is PC fault
>>742346060To justify your stance, you have to make up false quotes.Anything to avoid blaming Sony.
>>742341263tfw 2009 was the last year I bought physical media
>>742346051You fags keep saying this but never prove it. So show me, delete your account then uninstall steam then show me how many games are playable by replacing a single dll
>>742346119I know it makes you extremely angry and I know you're having a bad time already, but I dont care.Im going to say it anywayMy 4TB HDD is a physical. Cry about it.
>>742346259lol you got autism and cant understand memes
>>742345648>worse experience Debatable.PC has a much bigger chance of spending more time troubleshooting stuff, but overal most games look and run much better on a semi-decent PC.PC will never beat the plug'n play nature of a console though.Also it IS a better product, you seem to forget that a PC isn't just a game-machine like a console, you can play games on a PC while being able to do, PC stuff. The console exists primarily to play games while a PC does both, that's why I believe it's not unreasonable that a PC is more expensive than a console, but people seem to downplay the fact that a PC is, a PC too much desu.>>742345754So can I blame sony when Steam decides to implement mandatory paid online, or do I need to blame mircosoft for that?
>>742346051Big jews always put DRM on games. Physical DRM is a disc that can still be reverse engineered and copied. Digital sales were from the third world then fat lazy Americans followed.
High speed SD cards are like $50, are you willing to spend that much plus the cost of the actual game?
>>742346280>My 4TB HDD is a physical.lol what kind of cope is this, well by that logic my ps5 is a physical thing!
>>742346279>but never prove it>what is piracyFucking lmao. You can download these games for yourself and run them without ever needing steam. All from replacing a single dllConsolegro tech illiteracy is so amusing, no wonder you get bent over so much
>>742345929not my problem
>>742346212Guess what nigger, all those PS123 discs still work offline with outliers needing day one patches. PS45 is more tricky.
>>742346367You're a tourist using wojaks to blame one group for what another is doing and then saying others don't understand. Hell, you can't even handle basic punctuation.You're easily one of the dumbest people here.
>>742346462>well by that logic my ps5 is a physical thing!Oops! Mandatory internet connection required!You snoytards just cant catch a break huh? I almost pity you. Almost.
>>742346552Sharks are lgbt coded lmao way to pwn yourself you fat fucking loser.
>>742346280PC used to have beautiful big game boxes full of cool stuff in them. Then it was all lost and destroyed thanks to steam.
>>742346518They are too retarded to get into pc, that's why they stick to consoles to begin with no matter how much they get raped in their ass.
>>742336219How many children has he thrown into the ocean?
>>742346694>Sharks are lgbt codedProof?
>>742336219Thanks Gaben, less plastic waste floating around
>>742346447even playstation has DRM-free games on PC
>>742337065How will I lose access to an offline collection of files on my NAS?
>>742346795billions
>>742346715DOOM 3 is the last real PC big game but still managed to get an Xbox port.>>742346870>posting gaynime Lurk moar and you'd know about those shark plushies within the freaks community.
>>742342683nobody buys games on epic store even if they are free
>>742346885The only way to have physicals of sony games going foreard is to buy them on PC and copy them into external storageThe absolute fucking state
>>742346518So now you are goalposting to piracy lmao, why cant you provide a video showing replacing a single dll linePROVE IT
>>742346885That's GOG alright and 99% of the sales were on consoles anyway.
It's crazy that in 2026 there are still people who don't know how computers work.On PCs, hard drives became affordable for the average consumer in the late 1980s. By 1990, everyone already had hard drives that were enormous compared to floppy disks, for example. Because of this, no one wanted to play games directly from floppy disks when they could install the game on the hard drive and play it directly from there.That's literally how Steam works today, but instead of installing the game from floppy disks, CD-ROMs, or DVDs, the installation is done via the Internet.There are drawbacks to Internet distribution. For example, your game's license is no longer physically in your home (along with the floppy disks), but is held by Valve, GOG, etc. You also can't sell used games, but the used game market never made sense on PCs where you can "clone" games infinitely, for starters… it was purely a fetish for collectors of pieces of plastic.Note: Consoles are a different story, and you won't want digital games on them, since you don't have real access to your own hardware.
>>742346447Aren't Euroniggers closer to kikes than Amerilards? Why don't you fags do anything about jews, oh wait, you watch your family get raped by kikes and gladly too. Still haven't done anything and never will! Enjoy just bitching about them on the Internet though. Goy cattle are all the same, all bark and no bite. >DRMEven PC has DRM free PS games you disingenuous niggerfaggot. You already knew that though didn't you?
>>742346679>Mandatory internet connection required!It doesn't tho, why lie i can play all my games offline right now
>>742346983>every drawing is see is animeAnd I need to lurk more to know about some gay plushies? Lmao whatever you say anon.
DRM isn't mandatory on steam btw
>>742346983Anime site.And letting sexual deviants claim any product, character or imagery for themselves is letting them win.
>>742347389Yeah its just used by 99% of games but not required lol
>>742347272Most games aren't optimized for your rig. The recommended settings depends on the game and devs, meanwhile every games must run on the console that is the same experience for everyone who owns it.
>>742347242>goalposting to piracyHow do you think steam games are cracked and pirated? You're literally screaming >TEACH ME HOW TO CRACK STEAM GAMES!!!when it's as simple as opening the source folder and replacing the dll
>>742347282I'm not from Europe or the US faggot. I'm neutral a brown third worlder, try harder next time.>implying i care about digital lel
>Valve is responsible for console companies turning their consoles into PCs for the past two generationsIt's incredible how fucking stupid console players are. They are the womenniggers of gamers.
>>742347626He's saying it cuz he wants to see you do it and then blatantly dismiss it anyway to make you madder.
>>742347626>when it's as simple as opening the source folder and replacing the dllOk i did it and can't play counter strike so doesn't work
>>742347364It looks gay and you saved gay looking shit on your computer. Post non retarded looking reaction pics next time. be a better poster
>>742347728Not the other guy but if you are from some 3rd world place then serious question. What's the consensus of disks vanishing. I always had the impression physical was king in those areas.
>>742347807The irony as Valve has been turning PC into consoles for the past 2 decades
>>742347592Yes, in theory, consoles have their advantages.In practice, almost all games run much worse on consoles.I recently bought the digital version of Ni no Kuni 2 for the Switch 1 for next to nothing during a sale (I only buy digital games on consoles when they’re so cheap that I wouldn’t care if I lost access to all of them tomorrow). The game runs like absolute trash, to the point of being basically unplayable.I've had the Switch 1 since launch, and with very few exceptions (Diablo 3, for example), the basic experience has been pure suffering. Games running like crap and full of problems everywhere. The advantage of consoles is completely wiped out by developers releasing garbage.
>>742347430The owner doesn't think so and 4stats.io also says otherwise. Try harder to fit in next time oldnigger.
Consoles were heading in this direction anyway once they became internet-connection-requiring machines that deliver patches. Optical media is obsolete and flash media costs more for them to produce. It works out better for the industry to kill the used game market.
>>742347838Try hosting a local server.
>>742347962How? You can add games to steam from 3rd party sellers, their hardware is customisable, they encourage but don't force others to use their OS.It's anything but being a console.
>>742347926I'm a leaf from QC and the only problem i know who play games here are xboxfags or digitalfags. We're a minority on 4chan from what i've seen on /pol/
>>742348017Switch 1 is equivalent to the PS3 so of course games runs like ass.
>>742343385The coffin was created when software became copyrighted and it was almost instantly nailed shut by retards trying to sell licenses instead of the software. Courts may have ruled that they were wrong, but they didn't actually stop them from pushing EULAs or making it hard to retain your rights without legal action.The EU even legally recognizes digital downloads of software under perpetual license as equivalent to a DVD or other storage media, so you could sell your licenses there if the stores provided the infrastructure for it and didn't punish you extralegally with illegal EULAs.
>>742336219I haven't bought a physical game in like 25 years, thanks Gabe!
>>742348340only people *
>>742346462i can share my files between computers across operating systems, i'm not beholden to steams ecosystems to play my video games. a digital ps5 game will only work on the ps5 until sony sells it on the ps6. digital on a computer is forever, achievable, and i can mess with the files however i please, digital on console is a cuck license
>>742348563archive-able*
>>742336219Game Newell will go to hell when he dies and will be tortured forever for making the world worse.
>>742348329They made a DRM platform when PC was free before, they focus on console like hardware, make console like controllers, OS is designed like console, big picture designed like console layoutThere a reason most steam users are console refugees, gabe removed the gatekeeping design of PC
>>742348563>can share my files between computers across operating systemsOk let me see you playing all your games on MacOS
>>742348689>he believes in fairy tales No, he'll die in pain but that's it.
>>742348771did i say all operating systems? the fact that we can easily translate windows games to linux is more than enough, show me a ps5 game that works on xbox.
>>742347962Gaben has had the realization that consoles at their core are just specialized computers, and PCs are (mostly) unspecialized computers capable of becoming anything, so logically a compact PC specially geared to play vidya is the ideal console.Results are mixed, but I cannot deny, the idea is promising.
>>742347807wrong pic, bud
>>742348691>drm platformit's a storefront, there are steam games where you can run them fine without steam>console like hardwarepre-made pc's aren't new. If you mean the deck then you can run whatever you want on it. It's not a console.>console like controllerit's a controller, how desperate are you to make the leap>os is like console/big pictureYes, the idea is you stream steam to a TV and can navigate the UI with a controller. It's a mode specifically as an option to not use a PC with a mouse and keyboard.Bad arguments and reddit spacing. Is this ACFag?
>>742348912By that logic ps4 and ps5 got different operating systems and can play ps4 games on ps5
>>742343385Incorrect. Sony takes your ability to download old media away. Gaben lets you download ANY media that's been delisted if you already own it. Pic related. Don't blame your anti-consumer platform on others.
>>742349326And by that logic, a game made for WinXP can also run on Win 7, 8, 10 and 11. PC wins.
>>742349897PC wins because you can ALWAYS play your games, even if you have to go through hoops like virtualbox for old games. Consolefags get to play their old games for a generation at most before goyim has to rebuy them. Nintendo's the worst at it.
>>742349339>Gaben lets youno he doesnt, hes forced to legally
>>742350114steam still lets you watch films you bought while sony has infamously taken those away recentlytry again
>>742336219thank you based god gaben for making physical faggots seethe and cry bloody tears for my enjoyment, you are truly a king among kings, i love you
>>742349986>even if you have to go through hoops like virtualbox for old gameslol pc fags wait their time while i put my disc in and play, ps1 still works 30 years later
>>742350234I didn't even know you could watch movies through steam. I wouldn't miss that service and I prefer pirating films, but the option is nice.
>>742350235Bug eater chads and pod chads stay winning
>>742350660Yeah, you just have to fish out your old plastic box and hope it still works. Meanwhile I can play anything on any past or future hardware with ease. Retarded logic, lil bro.
>>742341263>>742343880
>>742350660>poor snoy is so btfo he needs discontinued 30 year old hardware to play gamesCouldnt be me lmao.
Fuck you, you lazy fat fuck.
>But Valve>But Nintendo
>>742350660>Duckstation>Wait timesFuck it feels good to be a PChad
>>742350794>, you just have to fish out your old plastic box and hope it still worksWay less time than tinkering with settings but you hot no life so wasting time is ok for you
>>742350234until the class action gets resolved, pretty sure thats why steam cant take away game access
>>742351072Nope. Takes 5 minutes at most. You're a complete idiot.
>>742351119So more time then putting a disc in
>>742351093if steam takes anyone's games away they go to piracyit's against valve's interests to push away customers like that
>>742351186>its true because daddy gabe said soyou are brainwashed, bet you are american who believes in brand loyalty lmao cuck
>>742351181This is in a very specific hypothetical scenario, by the way. 99% of the time you just press play. Once again, you're a complete idiot. Let's not forget PC games have arbitrary frame rate and resolution support, so we're playing those 20 - 30 year old games in 4k. In 20 years, we'll play them all in 8k.
>>742336219Thanks Gaben.Switching Disks was actually really annoying.
>>742351304it's true because of the objective reality of the fucking platformconsolecuck toys literally have no recourse for shit like this
>>742351304My sense of brand loyalty (none lol) ain't shit compared to console players and foreigners. Except Russians; I think they pirate even when they could get their data easy.
>>742348017The console advantage is that games run in 10 years time the same way they did 10 years ago. On PC it's far from a guarantee that they'll run at all or correctly. PCMR tend to get like BRs on emu forums when you say this. "ALL my games run fine!" But then you start pointing out that the physics are broken on high clock speed machines with no patches, or it buffer overflows after 2 hours consistently, or the surround audio doesn't work anymore, or there's z-fighting that didn't exist on the TNT2, etc. etc. and they are all just "who cares." You, a minute ago when I dared suggest PC's approach to back-compat is less than perfect.Once consoles stop offering this "frozen in time" approach to gaming, they lose the last advantage they have.
>>742350234>buy metro 2033 on launch>4a games releases a "redux" version that i think is inferior and delists the original>based gaben still lets me install and play that original version i bought for while cloud gaming and sony rips games and movies out of the hands of the consumer for no apparent reasonabandon sony and come to a community where you as a consumer is valued and taken good care of
>>742351360>99% of the time you just press playFor old games? No
>>742351467oh so you cant pirate movies?
>>742351680Only if we're talking pre-2000s games, and it's still not a major effort. Way more effort to set up an old console and pray it still works. Your old discs are rotting, by the way. Nothing you can do to prevent it. In 15 - 20 years, they'll all be useless.
>>742351878yes, you canhence why valve doesn't take them away because again, consolecuck toys are entirely monopolistic and they're not even allowing for competition with piracy
>>742351959>Way more effort to set up an old consoleOh no i have to plug in cord and put dusc in, so much effort
>>742352079you brought up sony and taking away movies, then said gabe wont do the same due to piracy, then you claim you can pirate movies.your argument isnt solid at all
>>742352257That's assuming your 30 year old piece of junk still works to begin with lol
>>742352257You're an engagement-farming moron. You don't care about this topic in earnest at all. Only responses. Get some other sources of joy in your life, loser. Maybe by playing video games.
>>742352286no, you're just fucking illiterategabe won't do so because piracy is a viable alternative and he wants to beat it with his servicedo you even know the basics of what steam set out to do or are you being a retard on purpose?
>>742352286>then said gabe wont do the same due to piracy, then you claim you can pirate movies.Yeah, Gabe wont do that because you can pirate movies instead of using his store and giving him money if he pisses you offThe argument is solid. You're just retarded
>>742336219Physical video games and consolefags were holding back the indie game revolution. Imagine a world without Minecraft or the dozens of games that sprouted from Arma mods.
>>742343617It's crazy to me that in 2026 people still don't understand that Steam is not forced DRM. The Steamworks DRM that Valve provides to developers is entirely optional.
>>742352543you can't use steam outside of steam machine, chudpc gaming has only started this month
I'm so tired guys...
>>742352340They do and funny enough PC dies way faster, i have 4 PCs that broke down while my PS1 still works. Irony taking about decaying hardware while defending PC when they die faster
>>742336219thanks gabeN________________
>>742352543>hey man its just optional! Disregard 99% of them use it anyways!
>>742352718Why do steam cultists like to show over their service like a badge of honor for staying loyal to the cult. Imagine if Nintendo fans were showing their years of service
physical games or free online? retards choose the first
>>742341263Is this capturing resale?
>>742352854just to stir shit in a thread about a topic that hasn't been relevant for 20 years.
>>742352654>gets angry>his english degradesEvery fucking time lmao. And I know your PCs broke down because you just wouldnt stop downloading .exe files and dolphin porn.
>>742352854You know they would if they could. Best they can do is mancaves with full walls of Pokemon plushies.
>>742352447>youre retarded because you pointed out my flawsok kiddo, have fun with that
>>742352728>Disregard 99% of them use it anyways!A DRM that can be disabled.entirely by overwriting a single file can be disregarded, yes.
>>742352654>No saar PC dies way faster saar I have 4 PCs saar this is irony saaar!!!I genuinely wonder if you jeets post using Pentium PCs from the 90s
>>742353186dolphin porn kek
>>742336219pissing off weebs since 2004i kneel gaben
>>742353550Anything stronger than a celeron probably shorts their entire village, please sympathize.
