>Be Xbox fan>2013>Migrate to PlayStation >Be PlayStation fan >July 1st 2026 >Migrate to Nintendo >Be Nintendo fanI'M HOME!
you people will do anything but play on pc huh
>>743373026not OP but PC is too expensive and not worth it anymore
>>743373026>>743373068Does this scare you Sony?
>>743373026>be Steam's digital slave or pirate everythingsoulless
>>743372956I just don't really want to play any nintendo games, the last one was mario kart wii
>>743373252If you like physical, they are the only option now.
>>743373068it's notyou get what you pay for
>>743373336I don't really care about physical and even if I did I'd just buy physical for old games
>>743373169>digital slavethe innate liberties of the pc platform limit any stupid shit valve could ever pull
>>743373336Xbox is still doing it at least they haven't said anything (to my knowledge)
>>743373557Dude, it's so obvious they're going the same route. Out of the three, they are the most pro digital.
>>743373342it's cheaper to buy a console than it is to buy RAM right now.
>>743373336>they're the only option FOR nowFTFY
Nintendo is going digital only too but it's ntw because they want to. The cartridges use the same memory banks that RAM, SD memory cards and SSDs use so they also have gotten more expensive to produce.
>>743373128hey, that looks familiar
>>743372956>Hugging a random dipshit in a costume People need to grow up
>>743373026I dont find Microsoft Office particularly fun.
>>743374783>Nintendo is going digital only tooNot with the switch 2. Maybe with the switch 3.
>>743375248Shitch poo will be fully digital with only gkc by 2028
>>743375391And to that I say, BING WING WAHOOO!
>>743373336All I see are gkc, no physical
>>743375494I hate you.
>>743374493wrongconsole memory is way worse than ddr4 ram and that's $100 for 16gb
>>743375562Because I'm right
>>743375698>console memory is way worse than ddr4 ramObjectively incorrect.Consoles use unified memory, their spec is equivalent to GDDR6 with significantly higher memory bandwidth compared to DDR4 - this is objectively better for gaming.
>>743375831Come back to me at the end of the Gen. I'm going to have thousands of physical switch 2 games and I'll be the last one laughing while you cuck away to digital.
>>743375980the most retarded post i've read
>>743376226Not my problem if you don't know fuck all about memory spec. Unified memory is better for gaming workloads, the main reason we don't use unified memory in desktop builds is due to modularity.
>>743375980gddr6 is worse than ddr4 at cpu tasks you fucking midwityou can get a $1000 build with a 5700 and 9060xt that beats the snoybox pro and completely pummels it on cpu performance
>>743376347go away pajeet, you don't know shit about computers.
>>743375831NTA.You are literally wrong.There are no Game-Key Card games in that photo.
>>743375391>>743375464You are a nonce.
>>743376610you play pedo games and tendies are actual fags, thus more likely to be pedoshttps://glaad.org/glaad-gaming/2024/1-in-5-active-gamers-are-lgbtq/The exceptions are 39% of LGBTQ gamers who play on the Nintendo Switch consoles, compared to 32% of non-LGBTQ gamers. LGBTQ gamers are also more likely than non-LGBTQ gamers to play on a Nintendo Switch Lite (12% versus 9%).
>>743376359>at cpu taskswhich are secondary in the majority of gaming workloads, also see >>743376347In gaming, memory bandwidth matters a lot more than CPU latency, and by bypassing modularity you allow for a design with direct traces to the GDDR memory bus. This is why PS5 games typically split the unified memory 80% towards the GPU, around 10-12GBs out of its 16GB available memory. This is also why in PC gaming people have been up in arms over 12GB being a minimum for GPU, and shitting all over nVidia whenever they provide less than that even on budget cards.Point is, comparing unified memory in consoles with DDR4 makes no sense, you should be comparing it to GDDR memory instead as that's what consoles actually use.>>743376432I know plenty.
>>743376947cope faggota 5700 and 9060xt build has better cpu and gpu performanceyou know what that gddr6 does to that measly zen2 cpu in the snoybox? it fucking STARVES IT and creates a massive cpu bottleneck
>>743377025>a 5700 and 9060xt build has better cpu and gpu performanceI'm not disagreeing with you here, but it also has nothing to do with my argument.
>>743377224wrong>it's cheaper to buy a console than it is to buy RAM right now.that makes this statement incorrectddr4 ram is completely valid to compare the snoybox against and all comparisons of pc vs console price hinge on comparing it to vastly superior ddr5 ram
>>743373128>60+ dlls for each oneYes, Is rather pay 10 dlls for God of War 2018 instead
>>743377424DDR4 memory is an invalid comparison to make against consoles' unified (GDDR6) memory. It is an apples to oranges comparison at best.
>>743377524the point is to compare gaming performancewe all know the snoybox's cpu performs poorly in games and it would get ruthlessly stomped by a 5700 so any bitching about using ddr4 makes no sense
>>743377639>the point is to compare gaming performanceThen you should be comparing GDDR memory between desktop PCs and consoles. Comparing DDR4 CPU memory with unified GDDR6 memory is a nonsense comparison.
>>743377740that already exists and it sucks shit4700s is repurposed ps5 silicon with gddr6, 3700x is the desktop equivalent
>>743377924yeah no shit a 4700S that was optimized for gaming workloads performs horribly in CPU-bound tasks that it was not optimized for. It's especially silly as the 4700S had its integrated GPU disabled, neutering the whole design.FWIW I am in no way trying to glaze the PS5's hardware, its CPU performance is objectively asswipe even for the time of its release (as are most consoles), but to get back to the original point I was making: the value proposition for PC gaming is very poor currently, mostly because of the memory crisis and how badly nVidia has raped the entire industry.
>>743378224>optimized for gaming workloadsmy man, it loses single core to the 3700x by quite a big marginthe word you're looking for is cutting corners, they assumed the cpu would never matter since the gpu bottleneck is way more likelyand the result is that all the retards crying about prices compared to consoles should shut the fuck upif there's anything that has completely fucked its value proposition it's consoles
>>743373336>game cuckcard
>Sony screws me over>refuse to buy a Ps5>XBox screws me over>stop supporting them decades ago>Nintendo screws me over>just go to PCI'm already one step ahead of you, OP.
>>743373336>collecting games stored on NAND flash memoryCan't wait to see all the retards that discover their physical Switch collection is worthless in 20+ years
>>743378465That's not really "cutting corners" so much as a deliberate design choice that every console has to make. They are gaming machines, so allocating cost and resources into gaming workloads is the logical choice for the hardware design. This isn't getting into other factors such as TDP, die size, and board design either which are all considerations for console architecture. Obviously, [cost] price comes into it as well too.The reason I do not consider PC to be a good value right now is really simple: you are overpaying significantly for several components today. RAM, storage, and even graphics cards are generally well above RRP in the current market. Whenever anyone asks me IRL about getting into PC gaming, I have to tell them "don't bother, at least not right now" as the pricing is beyond fucked. You are better off waiting, fingers crossed, for component prices to improve unless you are really desperate to get into it now. I'm just glad I did my main build before this all started happening.
console wars are old unc shit. the people still doing it are mentally stunted autists in their 30s/40s who are still fighting imaginary internet wars over toys which is really pathetic and you should kill yourself out of shame.
>>743378740>things that will never happenMy 3DS games are perfectly fine.
>>743378868Based and agreed
>>743373128Does this scare you, console owner?
>>743378913If you boot the game up every once and a while it extends the life of the cartridge, but if you're someone that collects hundreds of games then you're probably not going to be booting up every game in your collection for long periods of time if ever again
>>743379334Nobody buys your lies, filtjy snoy.
>>743374869turn off HDR before taking screenshots bro
>>743376710>look at article>switch is the exception because pc/xbox/playstation are all at 60-70%kek
>>743379765>LGBTQ and non-LGBTQ gamers report similar percentages regarding which platforms they use and which genres they play.
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>>743379963Remember this post, the next time snoys and tendies try claiming to be idorts.
>>743373169Steam is not the only storefront on PC, and if you're too retarded to know how to pirate than you deserve to be stuck with consoles.
>>743375980lmaoif consolefags had the slightest modicum of technological literacy, they wouldn't be consolefags
>>743380386>implying I'm a consolefag
>>743380553go play tranimal crossing and troonkopia, tendietroon
>>743372956I completely abandoned Nintendo during the wii era, came back about half way into the wii u era and still had a good time despite its shortcomings. While I’m mostly a PC gamer now, my switch and switch 2 are good, simple, relatively offline-friendly consoles. There’s no reason to own anything that snoy and microjeet make any more.
>>743380553>>743380587>two middle-aged men shitflinging over who has the better toyHow do you not kill yourself out of embarrassment?
>>743372956Mario if he feel.
>>743380553>say something stupid>get called out>HAHA U MADPeak intelligence on display here.
>>743380553You have to be at least 18 to post here.
>>74337486990% of these aren't switch games even though you labeled it as "Nintendo Switch" are you retarded?
>>743374783>Sony, Microsoft and Valve do dumb shit>Bu bu bu Nintendo will do it too, y-y-you'll seeAnyone notice this shit for the last decade? Why are these schizos obsessed with Nintendo following everybody (when they dont), instead of realizing they chose garbage consoles and platforms?
>>743381119But they literally did it multiple times over. You guys used to gloat about them never cutting content out to resell you as DLC. Then you gloated about how they never charged for online. Then you talked about how Nintendo doesn't pander to blackrock with diversity shit shoved into games.they've done every single one and more.
>>743381119I just said it's not because they want to do it you niggermonkey. They'll be cornered into it by the memory manufacturers constantly keep their prices high and expensive.
>>743381470you don't like being limited on 4chan but it's okay when your cucksole does it, huh?
>>743381612The irony is lost on him, unfortunately.
>>743381696The irony is you are literally a raped pctranny
>>743375494None of those are kay cards you dumb snoy tranny. They don’t have the key card logo at the bottom. Those are real physical copies. Kys.
>>743381119Ironic considering any sort of criticism of Nintendo on here will instantly get you labelled a "snoy".
>>743382058just obey the rules? it's not hardyou don't mind heavily restrictive switch 2 rules so you should behave here too
>>743373336>actually, unironically flaunting putrid trash like Cyberpunk and Metroid Prime 4
>>743382243the very principle of console use is to obeya console is just drm
>>743382243You have to be at least 18 to post here.
>>743381708projecting
>>743372956>Be Xbox fanMy condolences to your parents.
>>743382584i'm really hoping this is just a false flag and you're not actually like this
>>743381278All myths made up in your head.
>>743383012see>>743378710You can't hide your sins.
>>743383164>Nintendo abandoned discs over a decade agoThat was done for a very good fucking reason. Have you ever used the PSPs UMD format? It's terrible for on the go gaming.
>>743383326And flash carts that die in a decade are better?
>>743382648I think we have a /dbs/ shitposter ITT:
>>743381095>are you retarded?do you even have to ask?
>>743373729Most first party xbox games aren’t even on the disc at all. They’ve been doing the key card thing long before Nintendo did. But they got away with it for some reason. Some third party Series X games can definitely be played and installed offline, but first party? Forget it. Indiana Jones on the Switch 2 was the first time that the actual game was included on the cart/disc (though it’s apparently very buggy.) MS are by far the most anti physical. Anyone expecting them to go in a different direction than snoy don’t know anything about xbox.
>>743373026In the end it won't ever matter anyway. The primary benefit to PC is being able to play old games either through emulation or old ports that never made it to consoles. Everything else is secondary and sometimes literally illegal. The rise of digital has made maintaining digital libraries so important for the big three that their hardware vendors are the same as on PC: AMD and NVIDIA. Nintendo, notorious for introducing gimmicky bullshit every new gen, has had near-perfect backwards compatibility for 10 years.Any platform you're on is just an ecosystem nowadays. The only platform I see as having an existential crisis next gen is Xbox because Helix is allegedly a literal PC, but given their stellar efforts at maintaining backwards compatibility, I don't see why they would throw it all away, especially after Phil underlined the importance of it a few years ago.
>>743385590>Nintendo, notorious for introducing gimmicky bullshit every new gen, has had near-perfect backwards compatibility for 10 years.Then why can't I play my 3DS and WiiU eshop games on the switch?
>>743385818>Then why can't I play my 3DS and WiiU eshop games on the switch?Because those were made before the Switch. Switch support is going to be the consistent variable going forward, we're going to get a Switch 3 and Switch 4. Nintendo can't afford to be risky anymore.
>>743373026Yes. I don't want to be associated with cheaters and people who use trainers to beat games.
>>743385964>Because those were made before the SwitchBut why couldn't Nintendo let me transfer my purchases? The existence of NSO proves that you can play pre-switch games on it, so give me my purchases.
>>743386080>But why couldn't Nintendo let me transfer my purchases? The architecture of the 3DS/WiiU is massively different to the NS1/NS2. >The existence of NSO proves that you can play pre-switch games on it, so give me my purchases.Through emulation. You can play Perfect Dark on NSO, but if Microsoft decided to port the original Perfect Dark to Switch, you'd still have to buy that version of the game, because there's no way to verify that you own the game otherwise, especially on older consoles with no digital presence.
>>743386337>The architecture of the 3DS/WiiU is massively different to the NS1/NS2. Just connect the purchase to an NNID. It's what they did with eshop funds. Are those shmucks truly so cheap that they can't do even the bare minimum?My steam purchases from 2010 still work on my modern PC to this day. Maybe Nintendo should've tried a little harder.
>>743386470>Just connect the purchase to an NNIDNNIDs got depreciated in favor of Nintendo accounts.>It's what they did with eshop fundsBecause transferring currency is easier than transferring licenses to games which haven't even been made compatible with the console yet.>My steam purchases from 2010 still work on my modern PC to this day. Steam operates extrinsically to the architecture of your PC, because they're not bespoke hardware manufacturers (their recent offerings are simply prebuilt PCs).
>>743386883*deprecatedfuck autocorrect
>>743386883So why am I capable of putting roms on my computer devices that don't even have steam enabled? And yet Nintendo can't do the same for people who want to transfer their eshop purchases? You're just making excuses for them being lazy and greedy. Here's a super simple solution:>have people register their 3DS and Wiiu accounts online>connect them to a Switch account>Nintendo gives them every game they bought, free to downloadBoom, problem solved.
>>743387067yeah but people won't rebuy the games they already bought, which is the goal.Watch them do the same thing in x years with whatever comes after the switch.
>>743387067>So why am I capable of putting roms on my computer devices that don't even have steam enabled?Theoretically, you should be able to put your roms on any device. That doesn't mean you'll be able to actually use them. Nintendo giving freshly dumped roms to all of their returning customers probably breaks their license agreements, especially with third parties. What were you expecting? Nintendo to give roms of all their old games to their returning customers, and then for those same customers to be able to take those roms and upload them on some internet "archive" for all the pirates to make copies of forever? >>have people register their 3DS and Wiiu accounts online>>connect them to a Switch account>>Nintendo gives them every game they bought, free to downloadThat's exactly what they did with Switch 1 to Switch 2. They couldn't do that with Wii U or 3DS because frankly, they hadn't planned that far ahead, both from an architectural and network infrastructure standpoint. Why you're pretending this is strictly a Nintendo mistake is beyond me however. Sony also had consoles that made backwards compatibility a nightmare on modern consoles.
>>743387452Nobody on a modern console has had to rebuy their games in over 10 years. You're utterly deranged.
>>743387632As a customer, I don't care about licensing agreements. If you buy Super Metroid on the eshop, it should work on all future consoles, especially if they also have eshop support. It doesn't matter to me whatever black magic you have to do to make it happen, just get it done.>muh piratesNot my problem. This same logic is what game devs use to justify DRM like denuvo. If you're gonna treat everyone like slaves, then don't expect a handjob in return.>Why you're pretending this is strictly a Nintendo mistake is beyond me I'm not. What gave you that idea? I am FURIOUS at sony for doing the exact same thing. My PSN purchases from the Ps3 should work on all future consoles. But for some reason, sony decided that I can't play my legally bought Ps1 roms. Nooo, gotta subscribe to their gay and pozzed PSN subscription service.>>743387831That's because you guys have been suckered into DLC and microtransactions. Look at the "switch 2 upgrades". Every single one of them should've been free. Zelda was particularly disgusting, because IIRC the switch 2 upgrade of BOTW doesn't even include the season pass, or the amiibo content.Greedy pricks, the lot of them.
>>743387831i have to pay a subscription for games I already bought on their store when the wii was a thing.Yeah longer than 10 years, but it's foolish to assume nintendo won't make you rebuy switch games with their next console.xbox was much better in this regard because i can download games i bought on the 360 even though they were digital too.
>>743388006>As a customer, I don't care about licensing agreements.You're on the wrong platform then if you're on PC, unless you pirate everything. Every digital game has a EULA. >If you buy Super Metroid on the eshop, it should work on all future consolesThat's the plan going forward. Nintendo isn't going to give up their existing Switch library to chase gimmicks like in the Wii era. It's far too risky these days. We won't see any major architectural changes for the foreseeable future.>Not my problem.It is your problem, because no corporation is going to support piracy and it's frankly unrealistic to expect them to, Nintendo or not. Valve won't even pull this shit.>This same logic is what game devs use to justify DRM like denuvoLike how Valve justifies it?https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/drm>But for some reason, sony decided that I can't play my legally bought Ps1 roms. Nooo, gotta subscribe to their gay and pozzed PSN subscription service.Because of the power of the CELL.>Every single one of them should've been freeIf it was on Steam, your game would've gotten updated without your consent. Just like what happened with Skullgirls, or when CSGO players had their purchase stolen when it went F2P.
>>743388809>Every digital game has a EULA.Not my problem. Pc games arent shackled by DRM. once it is on my computer, the EULA no longer applies.>Nintendo isn't going to give up their existing Switch library to chase gimmicks like in the Wii era.Could have fooled me. They keep chopping up their games into pieces and reselling them for higher prices.>no corporation is going to support piracyThen they are not worthy of supporting. They want my money, but won't even respect the customer enough to trust them without DRM? They can piss off.>Like how Valve justifies it?All valve drm is laughably easy to circumvent, and they refuse to ban people who do it.>If it was on Steam, your game would've gotten updated without your consent. And then i could mod it back, pirate an earlier copy, or even use steam's built in steamdb archive database to downgrade. How else do you think i downgraded FTL to play mods?
>>743388809>or when CSGO players had their purchase stolen when it went F2P.they didn't have anything stolen, they got upgraded to prime status which you still had to pay for even after the game went f2p
>>743373128In 20 years the flash memory has failed and those are worthless.
>>743389193>Pc games arent shackled by DRM
>>743389193>>743389193>>743390449Already bypassed. And they can't do a damn thing about it. Consoles will brick your device for even trying.
>>743390520You can't even crack a 10 year old game.
>>743390610>jrpgLol i can watch it on youtube for free.
>>743390675Get used to watching, cuck.
