Why is online game discourse so bad now?
india and israel
Most people don't like games, they like skinner boxes masquerading as games.
>>743828139everyone is afraid of triggering the AI moderation
>>743828139>now
when was it good?
>>743828139if this is what happens when chud wins then the cucks should have wonned instead
>in-game chat, specific forums and reddit heavily moderated so it becomes an echo chamber of corporate safe opinions>niche cliques ala Discord just become circlejerk mental illness central and always implode once the admin has a random melty>4chan and xitter just spams tranny, nigger and jeet at everything because they hate everything including themselvesPick your poison
>discoursewhy does everyone try to be an intellectual
>>743828139A generation that wasn't bullied entered the internet.
>>743828139people gotten stupider
>>743828139>online game>discourseIf you subject to two cock and ball torture machines, why I should I sympathize with your
>>743828139they should rangeban india for next year's april fools.just as a funny experiment.
>>743828139People are addicted to feeling mad. This used to just be a 4chan thing but now it's literally everywhere. Simple disagreements simply cannot exist, people who have different opinions are subhuman and stand for everything you are against.
>>743828203whitoids will do everything except admit to their mistakes
>>743828139What online games?
The issue is that every site now monetizes you to be negative, which leads to nothing but garbageIt's why I still browse this site (though barely post anymore because the captcha is dogshit), you get no money for shitposting, its all for the love of the game
>>743829820specifically brits>brits join hitler>amerimutts help them>jews extinct>india and pakistan are still a colony>ussr nuked
>>743828139Because games are bad now
>>743828139Most of the actually intelligent people have left /v/ for Twitter, or they don’t discuss gaming online at all
>>743829891>>you get no money for shitposting>he doesn't know about the people paid a real salary to shit up every board
>>743828139>billionaire neonazis own all the social media platformsGee it's a mystery who could be putting their thumb on the algo scale.
>>743829891this pretty muchover half the internet is bots (including this site)reasonable discussion doesn't get clicks and isn't pushed on the algorithms.someone saying some stupid shit will typically attract more attention, which means more clicks, which means more discussion at least on 4chan, you can have interesting threads and the smaller boards are better for genuine discussion because they focus on niche interests and better moderated
>>743829794Yes? If you are not a cuck, why wouldn’t you wish death to everyone who has a different opinion than you? Have some dignity.
>>743829891>you get no money for shitposting
>>743828139It's not. You're just forever stuck in here
Well for most part you got retards on both sides, the casuals who are disturbed by the idea of not eating every turd that drops on their plate and people who hate things because theres some tiny details they hate in them like black people, women ect. Then in the middle are the minor groups that fall close to either of these two with the more nuanced and logical conversation shrinking away into almost nothingness.
>>743830335It really isn’t ore complicated than this. Ragebaits get lots of attention through kneejerk rections and emotions, real discussion is slow burn and usually requires more knowledge of subject than internet drama. Any retard can drama about some twitter post by some dev or even some rando who-gives-a-fuck, but enjoying a proper discussion about a game requires that you have played it and care about it.
>>743828139Everyone is engagement farming and people just say really stupid shit to get attention, nobody actually expresses what they think in an actual meaningful way.
because nobody gives me (you)s and I don't want to engage with any other retards by giving them (you)s
>>743830643And when you do they just call it bait.
>>743830451>It's notWere you here in the past? I doubt it, or you wouldn't claim there isn't a difference. I spent my life on the internet, as proven by this screenshot, and it's worse every year. I think I'll blame diversity, because most issues can be explained by it.
>>743828139I blame /pol/ importing all of the election tourists from reddit in 2016.
I truly, truly miss the old internet so much.
>>743830694Yep. The Internet is now a low trust society and it's never, ever going back.
>>743828139People can't just fuck off to their niche corner of the internet where they can engage with like-minded people anymore. Everything is consolidated.
>>743828139Leftards and retards claiming to actually be on your side against that blame the wrong shit then act identically.
>>743828139People feel the need to have an opinion of everything.
>>743830915>The Internet is now a low trust society and it's never, ever going back.Why do you say "The Internet" like it's not the same off the internet? The internet just mirrors society. Everyone who exists here would exist in the real world - except maybe me, who you'll never see if you leave the house. The outside was destroyed first, dude.
>>743828139Because everyone autstically focuses on the WRONG things and thus won't talk about autistically focusing on the RIGHT things which are what I like
Kojima predicted this. Worth a read if you haven't already seen this image a hundred times already.
Gamergate thoroughly destroyed this hobby.
>>743831318>Because everyone autstically focuses on the WRONG things and thus won't talk about autistically focusing on the RIGHT things which are what I likeI can't tell if you're serious or not, but that's a legitimate complaint. If I like A, and you like B, isn't that a problem? What is your solution to that?
>>743828139Because nu vidya is shitty too
Pajeets following the money. Their shitty bots are everywhere. I dont know when this started but most likely with youtube comments.
>>743831134It’s genuinely interesting how /v/ is the best place in internet to discuss vidya when you have a thread where people actually talk about games they’ve played, but unfortunately majority of threads here are either off-topic or about games that the majority of posters in the thread never intend to play.If /v/ was a movie club, it would be a movie club that doesn’t watch movies together, but mostly complains about how they’re tired of capeshit or how they hate director X, repeated ad nauseam.
Everyone will blame chuds but it’s unironically normalfags having a growing online presence.>normalfags discover 4chan>4chan lingo/mannerisms spill into normalfag spaces >other normalfags see this and replicate behavior >now the entirety of the internet is dripped in layers of irony, everyone is scared of sincerity, everything now is about “owning the other guy” instead of having a dialogue
>>7438281391. Zoomers are retarded and think being genuine about anything is cringe. Their favorite nigger mumble rapper doesn't care bout nuttin except grindset, DUDEWEED, and witches (that he pays for).2. Brown people. Not just jeets, but rvery taxo tossing spic south of the Texas border.3. Lore is now corporatized. Nothing feels genuine or passionate about world building and characters. Nu-Doom is a perfect example. 4. Video games are srs bsns. But not really.
>>743828139It's a trickle down from the political discourse shitshow we see in our country right now
>>743828139You're on one of the worst websites to talk about video games, that's why. Make a thread about video games and then make a thread with some random culture war twitter screenshot and see which one gets more discussion.
>>7438316814chan also suffers from the problem where newfags see this as a place where you can act edgy and then they think that you *have* to be edgy to fit in. I don’t want to censor the discussion here of course, but it’s just so tiresome to see people acting like the only reason to be here is to aggressively shitpost 24/7.
I write sincere effortposts even when the topic is shit and nobody is being genuine and ironically get a ton of engagement because I'm the only person putting my real opinions out there.
>>743828139you're a misogynist if you don't agree to everything bluesky says, you're a chud if you like lewds, you're a racist if you don't fap to blackies or furries, you're a bigot if you have an opinion.
>>743831681>>743831792>>743831812All of this.
>>743831983Everything is bullshit! Everything you posted is a goddamn lie!Everything is bullshit!
>>743828139Effort posts just get met with derision or someone just calling you a retard without actually addressing anything in your post.
>>743828139>Negativity bias>Ten years of regularly-occurring, highly divisive, society-altering events>The monetization of having really shitty and/or poorly-expressed opinions via engagement metrics>The existence of AI/Bots that only serve to aggravate the above pointsIt's not even restricted to gaming discourse, discourse on the Internet in general went down the shitter in 2016 and has only gotten worse
>>743828139Extremism is the only thing that gets attention now. You either have to be endless positive or endlessly negative about everything. No critical thinking or nuance allowed.
>>743828139Damn i wonder why that would be.
>>743832231That is them addressing your post.
>>743832478>63% of India’s potential is still untapped
>>743828139social media has literally and demonstrably rotted the human brain, causing average intelligence to drop by orders of magnitude. couple that with the fact that the overwhelming majority of games are unfinished, derivative slop… what is there to talk about? I have noticed the quality of /v/ hinges entirely on the quality and frequency of games being released
>>743829820The mistake being not only allowing you brownoids to live but gain access to technology as well
>>743830036>Brits who colonize NA genocide the natives.>Brits who colonize India introduce modern agriculture and medicine so the population explodesYOU WERE SUPPOSED TO GENOCIDE INDIA TOO! WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?
>>743829820The fuck did I do? All of this was set in motion long before even my grandparents were born, asshole.
>>743832863>social media has literally and demonstrably rotted the human brain, This is a meme pushed to justify censorship.>causing average intelligence to drop by orders of magnitudeConsequence of immigration, women mating preferences, and drugs.
>>743833034You're the perfect example of its effects.
>>743832961>The mistake being not only allowing you brownoids to live but gain access to technology as wellThat was kind of like strapping a mind reading machine to farm animals, and that's why so many people cry about the quality of the internet now. You're just hearing the thoughts of the slaves, and you're not meant to.
>>743832252It's dreadful if you think about it.Places like 4chan, where people can speak their genuine opinion are more important than ever, yet this place is being left to rot by its moderation.
>>743833153Farm animals would be a massive improvement to any discussion in place of a brown
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DiscordGamerGateNo E3
>>743833224>this place is being left to rot by its moderation.Are you saying more moderation would fix 4chan? You can always go to Reddit if you like rules so much. I love posting in a thread right before it gets deleted.
>>743832478Yeah video game discourse was so much better in 1997
Lack of moderationInsane schizos allowed to run free
World is browner
>>743833224/fit/ is a prime example of dogshit mods. Self-Improvement General, /sig/ was a great thread general full of helpful advice to better yourself whether physically, mentally, financially, with women, etc. It got pruned and deleted after years of existing because literal trannies cried to the mods it was making heckin Chuds. Hell, trannoids are the reason this website lost so much soul and content. A cabal that determines what is and isn't allowed, what is and isn't fun.
>>743833393if you were here during moot's reign you'd be crying and shitting your pants in rage. exactly the kind of person that ruined this place
>>743833434>Lack of moderationUnless you're a Project Moon thread, Umamusume thread or Deltarune thread!
>>743833464>if you were here during moot's reign you'd be crying and shitting your pants in rageAs shown here: >>743830783I was here back then, because I was playing Warcraft 3 before I came to 4chan. Can you prove you were here back then?
>>743830257>>743830335>>743830385>lying on the internet!You guys are dumb and you're butt hurt!
>>743832478That is to say, it reflects the users posting.Wonder what the iq of a typical internet user was eg 20 years ago. Probably under three digits these days.
>>743828139Third world has Internet access now.
>>743833393The only thing we need is country flags and user IDs so I can filter out 3rd world posters and samefags
>>743833486?Deltrarune dudes are currently shitting up the deadlock thread and getting away with it, are you sure?
The best video game threads aren't on /v/.
>>743833663Thats because you aren't allowed to have earnest Deadlock threads on /v/. Because Deadlock is a video game and video games belong on a different board.
>>743833562i dont care about how many hours you've played dota 2, retard. moderation used to be more strict, public bans and gatekeeping done by mods would happen much more often (still happens on /a/), schizos would get publicly called out by mods and told to fuck off. 4chan was never le no rules website that exists to be a designated shitting street i do not give a shit if some youtube video told you otherwise
>>743828139because browns came online. the internet and online games were wonderful up until about 2010 or so
>>743833663A single Noelle image isn't "shitting up the thread".
>>743833663sorry are you talking about two generals on /v/?
>>743833771You think it's just browns but it's actually all non-whites. Here's a screenshot from the board I left. I don't go there anymore. It's easy to blame one race but it's not always the browns.
>>743829820The old internet was good when it was mostly white and asian. Really, I think the problem is that zoomers are profoundly retarded and COVID ruined everyone still in K-12 at the time. Most of /v/ would have been playing vidya all day on Zoom school and having AI do their work for them if they had the same circumstances. They'd end up just as dumb.
>>743833434ThisLet me discuss shmups in peace. Just by mentioning that word a schizo is probably going to show itself
>>743829673more stupid people have a voice
Too many third worlders (Germ*ns)
>>743833980imagine looking for, finding, and saving that video on your device and believing you “got” anybody
>>743833149The tabula rasa theory you base your understanding of humanity is complete nonsense. It's a religious belief.
>>743834141Right, and that's how I know the race of the individual. A White guy wouldn't save a picture of himself sucking a nigger dick, but an insane yellow person would.
>>743828139Engagement being monetized was the death knell of the Internet.
Left and right it seems like both hates Indians and I guess some rightiods hate Israel. If they are like younger.
>>743833980jeets say they're asian. jeets are brown. before the jeets spamming niggerdick everywhere is was a much smaller group of even more autistic asianmasculinity chinks like tenda spencer who spammed niggerdick seethe, true, but it's mostly jeets now. the thing about real asians (chinese, korean, japanese, etc) is they typically stick to their own sites and areas of the internet. it's the jeets, beans, and other browns who have invaded what was the majority white internet and completely turned it to shit
>>743833393I knew someone would respond like that. I don't think /v/ needs more rules, but to say mods don't enforce the existing ones is an understatement. This place has always been a mixed bag of quality, but as the years pass the ratio skews more and more to just low-effort bullshit. Endless twitter screenshots that are just posted to start shit, or that barely even have anything to do with video games. The constant off topic repeat threads that treat this board as if it's /b/. None of that really belongs here or helps the quality of discourse in this place.If we somehow had to find a solution other than changing how the board is moderated I'd make it impossible to phone post.>>743833463I haven't been on /fit/ in a decade, but other boards are no different. /ic/ is also a den of schizos that actively chase away people. There's a difference between unfiltered conversation and making conversation impossible.
>>743829820This guy is indian btw
>>743833017We should have comitted genocide against neet weebs too. You faggots are just as stinky and useless and indians.
>>743834261That combined with bots has been catastrophic. The algorithms are always ragebaiting too so everyone is angry/miserable and lashing out constantly.
>>743833486Deltarune furries should have been sent to /trash/ years ago, but the mods has genuine trannies that defended them for years.
>>743834385i'm 43 years old and i remember when it was good
Two of three longest threads going right now. A zoomer thread that called suicide unalive and a tranny twitter screenshot about wow streamer drama. Zoomers have infested the internet. It is time to play single player games and forget it exists.
>>743834408>>Assblasted Jeet detected.Cry harder, Rajneesh, the world would be better if you never existed.
>>743828139People calling it "discourse" is a good start.
>>743829820saar its timmys and britishers fault saar
>>743834492>he's a middle-aged man!It sucks to be you! ;pI bet you're bald and fat too! :3
>>743828139A consequence of people viewing gameplay as less and less important than the secondary aspects of games.
>>743834403Where's that psyop snippet from?
>>743834141>>743834251Newfags.
>>743828139remember when it was standard advice to never put your identity on the internetand now maryjennings2006 calls you a moron on youtube
>>743830586The worst part of ragebait is that 90% of engagement is people just posting something that is only slightly wrong and every 90IQ retard has to chime in to correct it to stroke their ego but they don't realize they're just feeding the algorithm
>>743832231Because the low IQ third-worlders on a phone legitimately don't have the ability to. The most you'll get is a shallow, buzzword-filled response. They treat 4chan as an anonymous dumping ground to be as mean-spirited and antagonistic as possible because they watched some e-celeb. They don't understand context and nuance, they just prowl the catalog with whatever agenda they have cooked up, waiting for the next thread they can shit up next.
>>743834949this
imagine if they demonitized all social media. the panic and suicides would be hilarious
>>743828139All of the intelligent people went to Discord and Twitter while you're still hanging out here with the shit-flinging monkeys.
>>743833393You need strict moderation to deal with the ritualposting schizos, yes. Especially with the state of the Internet and who has access to it now.
>>743828139twitter/tiktok retards coming here to farm screencaps
>>743834621i'm actually fitter than you. not bald either but not takin a pic of my head so you imagine what you will
>>743835193>You need strict moderation to deal with the ritualposting schizos, yes.Thank you for having ADHD. Now, explain why you don't use Reddit if you enjoy "strict moderation".
>>743828139Whatever you say shitbrownrock.
>>743835249Can you explain why you think that 4chan is supposed to be an unmoderated shithole? This place was better when being a shitposting faggot would get you publicly banned.
>>743828139corpos adopted "money stolen" tactics and banned every last player. the only thing that remains now is corporate drones, whales, and snowflakes
>>743834621>>743835229forgot pic
>>743835321>Can you explain why you think that 4chan is supposed to be an unmoderated shithole?Gladly. I think no moderation is better because moderation is anti-intellectual. Let's say you're a Gorilla Nigger in real life, and I call you one. Then, I get banned for some reason. Do you think that's a good thing?
>>743834334I learned that it's because porn doesn't have any Indian men, so they latch onto BBC to self-insert.
>>743835427>pec gap>split abslmaoooo
>>743835432I think that gatekeeping is a good thing. If someone decides to shit up a community they get thrown out instead of driving everyone away. It's how things used to work and everything was better because of it.
Troons
>>743835321The entire point was that the community was supposed to moderate itself. It doesn't work when you have a paid shills from Shareblue and Microsoft paying to advertise and ten thousand esl Indians spamming
>>743835427lmao this nigga writes backwards
>>743835589>If someone decides to shit up a community they get thrown out instead of driving everyone away"shit up a community" doesn't mean anything. I was here on 4chan before all of you, and you think I should leave because the majority don't like me? You're the actual reason the site is dead. I hope you have other threads open because I don't. Please consider speaking to someone else in any other thread in this board.
>>743835720>I was here on 4chan before all of youIf you don't remember when mods were stricter then you obviously were not here. People would get publicly banned for fucking console war threads and you're telling me that /v/ used to have no moderation? Fuck off.
>>743835229>>743835427>he won't reveal his ugly face or his ugly baldness because he's embarrassed about that!Kek!>>743835525>>743835703This!LMAO!
>>743835819I will fuck off. I have one thread open, which the shitskins flooded because nobody on this board likes each other. I like you the least. Enjoy each other's company.
>>743835525>>743835876>no physique picyou're fat and mad lmoa
>>743835916>leaving right after getting called out for oldfag larpingyou will never be an oldfag btw :)
Idk OP I'll tell you later
>>743828139the cause is the device that is featured on your image
>>743828139>>743829515>Why is talking about games online so shit now?There, now OP doesn't sound like a faggot
>>743829891Gookmoot still gets money from flamewars because that means traction in the site
>>743828139In order to have intelligent opinions on games, you need to have played them since 1980. Few people are old enough to talk about games except in baby-babble.
I mean what do you expect we just had week long discussions about retards claiming that you do not have to play games to be considered a fan or someone with a worthwhile opinion.Retards literally straight up do not play games yet build their whole identities around them.I always knew that was the case with niche genres like fighting games but its even the case for short baby mainstream games like resident evil.
>>743835525Now post your body
>>743835916You forgot to take your meds, buddy.
>>743829820india and israel are our mistakes
>Why is online game discourse so bad now?>IMG_9255gee i wonder
>>743831890This is literally the only forum on the internet where you can say a game is dogshit. Go to any dedicated subreddit and just give a well thought out opinion about why the game is objectively bad and you will be banned. Don't like Marvel quips and endless griding for green crystals in Metroid Prime 4? It's just you bro.
>>743828139The overall lack of literacy, critical analysis, objective thinking, open-mindedness, ability to discern fact from opinion and ability to control one's own emotional thinking. Not to mention the massive torrent of bad faith disingenuous lying, shilling, ragebaiting and shitposting that people don't know how to recognize and ignore. Oh and no one actually plays video games but its deeper than just a video game problem.
>>743833617The low IQs are why it's so exhausting to try and talk to people online now.
>>743836446this image was made painstakingly by skilled amish artisans
>>743836446Seriously, you can boil down everything wrong with the internet to phoneposters 90% of the time.
50 billion ESL's have been added to the discussion pool, of course it ended up this way.even the people you run into while playing multiplayer games feel dumber than how it used to be.
>>743832478It's kind of crazy, you'd just constantly meet cool people that were different but civilized all through the 2000s. You'd be on some forum or hobby thing or playing a game and you'd meet some chill german or leaf or maybe something even really exotic like a swede and it was always good, now everything is just fucking shit.
>>743828139Half the people here are low IQ gooners that don't care about video games for anything except jerk off material.
>>743837108I remember back in 2006 when I discovered YouTube for the first time, just searching through channels and finding interesting stuff from all over the world, like this farmer in Nepal videoing his day-to-day life. The promise of the Internet then compared to the despairing hellscape it is now...crazy how things change.
>>743835172Twitter is just as bad
>>743836446Someone doesn’t become a high quality poster just because they walk from their bed to their desk, the issue is a lot of the “people” you talk to see being right or even reasonable in a discussion as purely incidental to winning the discussion
>>743834403>low iq schizo connectionsThe zoomer mind is truly an enigma
>scroll the first bunch of posts ITT>they all answer OP's questionPeople aren't confident they can appear smart, witty or likable by just being themselves. They believe that the worst thing that can happen to you is being teased and declared an outcast. To try and defend themselves from this they commonly dive deep into irony, post-irony, post-post-irony and so on. They count on being abused (because they do it themselves; it's the first thing that comes to their mind when interacting with anyone) and, to cope with this perpetual salvo aimed at their self-esteem, this constant Cold War of faggotry, they alienate their genuine selves from how they behave. Because if one of those attacks destroys a phony image they've fabricated, it's inconsequential... despite it always being inconsequential, because bullying is only as effective as you allow it to be. This is is all the consequence of letting normalfags into realms they weren't made for. They operate off consensus like women. They're obsessed with social status. All sense of value comes not from themselves but from what other people assign to them. It extends to video games as well.
>>743828139Because everyone can go to twitch whenever they want and watch people playing at the peak of gameplay. Naturally they all think "well it's just that easy" and then expect themselves and also everyone else to be able to meet that standard.Gamers have always had a brainworm about what it means to be 'good at games'. Nothing is "hard" it's just boring, or requires repetitive practice, or requires watching guides, or whatever. A huge amount of people playing games secretly hate themselves for wasting time on a hobby that's maligned as being stupid and pointless, so being bad at it? No excuse. But in 2026 gamers have to live with the reality of being able to sit in the cuck chair and see someone else effortlessly succeed where they struggle, then mentally try to cope with the fact that they themselves can't do the same thing. This creates a huge amount of spite and then people lash out at one another. At the end of the day it's basically projection.
>>743837649>see retarded schizophrenic shitposter on twitter>blockwow..
>>743838512>get quote rt'd and a-logged endlesslyYeah
>>743838479Why would I be genuine when nobody else is?>That's the point of an anonymous image boardI know, others don't care.
>>743833017Anon the problem is not indians, they were cool when they were selling carpets and spices.The problem is once the brits colonized they exterminated the natives and had a billion half breeds.If you hate indians you actually hate jeets.
>>743836848one day Steve Jobs will pay for his crimes
>>743838853It seems more exhausting to pretend to be someone than just say what you really mean or feel.
>>743838853it's grand to see people get upset over you just having a nice fun time instead of melding into the endless sea of outrage and trollposting
>>743838925jeet = indian = pakiAll of you are the same. None of you were ever worth anything.
>>743833034>causing average intelligence to drop by orders of magnitudeThis one is simple, it's everyone cutting school funding at the same time while teaching useless bullshit instead of useful stuff.Good teachers can't push their student to their best because to stay employed they need to teach them about all this time wasting bullshit.They also need to teach bigger classes with kids who act like fucking niggers because their parenta are gonna believe them blindly and defend them about any mild annoyance.
jeet means victory in hindu
>>743828139in 2026 they think it's lame to be substantial. They opt for high impact tweet-formatted takes instead of long-form dialogue. You need to sound smug while being incorrect, that is all that matters. As long as you ratio and aurafarm. Or something.
>>743829624They say and do the stupidest things possible and have no humility so they keep doubling down. This generation is what popularized "ragebait" as a normally used phrase. The problem for society is that while it's usually contained to the internet for most people, they tend act this way in public because they were raised on the internet, I don't know if it's because they watched prank videos or streamers as children that they are made to think it's acceptable to constantly be a nuisance.
>>743839353And it means street shitter in english, your point?
>>743839252Spending soared in the 2000s and the downward slide that's been going on since the US government took over and subsidized the public school system continued. The problem isn't funding, it's lowering the standards so that more kids can pass, and you can take a wild guess as to who's holding everyone back and making the curriculum lower quality.
>>743834334It feels like just in the past 2 years I've seen "Indian" along with related terms completely disappear in media in favor of "South Asian" ostensibly because it has a more positive connotation. I always think CN/JP/KR when I hear Asian, even though it includes everywhere from the less populated half of Russia, to the islands and rocks of Thailand.Especially in reference to crime (typically jeet gangs extorting other jeets) though, the news only uses South Asian to refer to jeets now. That and culture pieces.
>>743840636Everyone should just use ”Global South” and talk of people of Global South etc.
