>Dragon Age fans have been bracing for bad news since Veilguard’s mixed reception, and now one of the people who helped build the franchise is confirming what a lot of people already suspected. Former BioWare executive producer Mark Darrah doesn’t think the series will make a return, pointing to EA’s complicated relationship with shipping games at all’, said in an interview.>That’s a blunt way to put it, but Darrah has earned the right to be blunt. He spent years at BioWare working on the first two Dragon Age titles before leaving the studio in 2022, giving him a front-row seat to how EA actually operates behind the scenes>Darrah isn’t a lone voice here. Former Dragon Age lead writer David Gaider, who spent roughly two decades at BioWare, echoed a similar sentiment. Gaider said it’s “unlikely” fans will ever see another Dragon Age game made by BioWare under EA’s control, and described how, while working at the studio, it always felt like the team was “one breath away from the current project being shelved”.>If you needed proof that this isn’t just former employees venting, look at what actually happened when BioWare tried to pitch something safe. Darrah revealed that BioWare pitched EA a remaster of the first three Dragon Age games, branded internally as the “Champions Trilogy,” and EA turned it down because the publisher is generally against remasters.>Gaider suggested that Mass Effect has effectively been EA’s golden child within BioWare, getting more leeway even when it didn’t sell as well.>That preference shows up in where BioWare’s resources are actually going. With the studio’s remaining staff now focused on pre-production for the next Mass Effect game, there’s simply no team left to work on Dragon Age even if EA wanted one.I despise everybody involved for fucking up this franchise.I despise EA for buying Bioware.I despise Bioware for shitting out Veilguard and killing the franchise.
>Veilguard’s mixed receptionI thought everyone was having a....*checks notes*Blast....
>>744242804>>744242912who are you quoting?
Why would you want it to?It's a 4 game series that's had exactly 1 good entry.
>>744242983>>744242912>>744242804
>>744242804>Mixed responseNigga' everybody hayed that shit
>Former BioWare executive producer Mark Darrahthis guy has been moaning on and on for what feels like 200 years
>>744243010>just rat faced jew things...
I won
>>744243010reminder these are the same people telling u steam chart bad
>>744242804sooo... i'm nonbuynary
Nobody forced them to sell out to EA and make the sequel an action rpg with a year of dev time resulting in bad graphics and repetitive gameplay. Or drop the grim setting in favor of sparkledog wholesome gay D&D.
>>744243148and if you had any reading comprehension or social skills you would realize that he is making fun of the chart posting poltroon.
Reminder EA aren't the villian here, they gave them ample time to get things right but Bioware were so poorly managed they just siphoned all the money
>>744243215Jason? This specific tweet? He was being absolutely honest and trying to dunk on the chuds.
>>744242804>mixed reception
>>744243010>erases post history and flees twitter because all his posts after kept holding him accountable for being this wrong and stupidlittle ratfuck bitch
>>744243363Everyone should have ignored that ratfaced jew after his retarded Breasts = Loli debacle.
>>744242804surely it isn't the fault of the worthless, no talent devs who decided to make "IM NON BINARY" their main character in a fucking fantasy game.
>>744242804
i dont understand why ea keeps giving them money. mass effect, dragon age, and anthem are all dead. they're not even allowed to touch star wars anymore, tor was taken away from them so they "can focus on mass effect and dragon age" which is so fucking funny you'd think microsoft owned them.
If the next Mass Effect is Veilguard tier, I'm fairly certain Bioware will shut down. Games today have budgets that are so big that a single failure can ruin the IP forever, Bioware still being alive after Veilguard is crazy in and of itself.
>>744243437>IfWhen, and Bioware should have been shut down 15 years ago.
>>744242804>If you needed proof that this isn’t just former employees venting, look at what actually happened when BioWare tried to pitch something safe. Darrah revealed that BioWare pitched EA a remaster of the first three Dragon Age games, branded internally as the “Champions Trilogy,” and EA turned it down because the publisher is generally against remasters.Based EA, which is very strange thing to say>Gaider suggested that Mass Effect has effectively been EA’s golden child within BioWare, getting more leeway even when it didn’t sell as well.>That preference shows up in where BioWare’s resources are actually going. With the studio’s remaining staff now focused on pre-production for the next Mass Effect game, there’s simply no team left to work on Dragon Age even if EA wanted one.Dragon age can be summed up as>We know you loved Origins, but we don’t so we’ll try our best to ignore and bury itNo wonder they killed it
>>744242804It's weird to think that Dragon age only had one truly good game, but it was enough to string people along hoping another one would be as good. I gave up after inquisition.
>>744243437they should have been killed after anthem. remember, that was supposed to be a "10 year game" lolcanandian tax breaks must so next level that ea must pay almost nothing into the studio for them to keep cranking out turds.
>>744242912>>744243010The fact that you had actual shills and redditors trying to prop it as a success for a good week was funny to me.
>>744243527>I gave up after inquisition.lollmao evenI saw the writing on the wall with the DA2 trailers and "bullshots" being absolute garbage.
>>744243550inquisition was even funnier and they paid for a dorito pope 'award' for that
>>744243575I never actually played 2, inquisition felt like a single-player mmo so I dropped it
>make a dragon age for people who dont like games and "so, im non binary" is an actual voiced line of dialogue>game fails miserably>all while ignoring every thing gamers likeI want western studios to go bankrupt. but how the fuck are they still in business at all? no one is buying their garbage and they have thousands of employees.
>>744242804Being a DA Origin fan must be suffering when the sequels only got worse every time
>>744243598Fair enough.
>>744242804They burned all the old lore behind them on the way out, they have only themselves to blame.
>>744242804>the next Mass Effect gameOh... oh no...
>>744243527I tried Inquisition. Played for ~30 hours.I never had any fun with it. So I dropped it.
>>744243550That psyop has to go down in the history books. Total: "don't believe what you see, what your mind is telling you, and what you're experiencing" moment
>back in the day when studios could hire white men and allow them to experiment>some of the best games ever were made>then we got smartphones and social media>the fun stops here>all white men are fired and old series are ruined with forced diversity>activists try to make their own new original things which suck>go woke go brokeat least indie games and AA are doing fine
>>744243673Only chance me5 has is that there’s no business sense to make a woke game anymore. They’ll still fuck it up somehow
>>744242804I replayed Origins a while ago and it's crazy what a good game it is. It also has absolutely nothing in common with even the first sequel. Dark fantasy is such a great setting and the fields are barren.
>>744243437>IfTopkek… “If” he says…
dark fantasy was taken over by rollslop
>>744243820a little surprised that origins hasn't been targeted for the remake treatment by now.
>>744243550>>744243768For me the most egregious thing was Ravaged Eduardo's review.He spent the whole review trying to psyop his vieweres into believing that the dialogue was only retarded because they just repeated the name of the villains too much, not because it was Prime Disney Woke slop through and through.
>>744243801>anymoreNever has been.
>>744243894I swear to god anytime asks “why hasn’t _____ been made” its always willed into existence sometime later. Be careful of what you wish for.
Do we'll never see Morrigan again?
>>744242804>the franchise.Only the first game was good.
>>744242804>dragon age turned to crap>mass effect turned to crapWhat's Bioware even good for, then? Make them start a new ip and never let them make more than one sequel?
Dragon Age 2 is bad but goddamn it's a fucking masterpiece compared to Trannyguard.Veilguard was so fucking bad critics and media were pushing it for GotY so western developers wouldn't look so bad considering they lost to a bing bing beep beep wahoo game that no one played.
>>744244061Kotor is getting raped next
>>744242804Thank god Larian is bringing Divinity back, this is bleak.
>>744244000not saying I want it, just seems like a game that would be. All I'd really want for Origins is some kind of update to improve the technical state, last I heard you need to fiddle around with mods and possibly other tweaks to get it running well.
>>744243010Got'em.
>>744242804not that surprising there are like, 1 and a half decent (not even good or great, DECENT) DA games in DAO and Inqusition. Honestly surprising it lasted as long as it did.
>>744244076>Dragon Age 2 is badNo.
>>744244004You saw her on Failguard.She looked like a Pajeeta with a mannish ribcage and 4 tits.
>>744244004Are you ESL or are you having a stroke?
welp, those fags might as well release the source code now
>>744244201You're right. It's awful.
>>744243320Chuds hated it. Anti-Chuds pretended to like it.
>>744244076veilguard wasn't very good but DA2 is still absolutely bottom tier for me. They have completely inverse quality from each other in that DA2's mechanical experience is dreadfully dull but has ok writing, but DAVG is actually an ok play with not very good writing. worst part about it is the neutering of tevinter as a setting but because people here don't actually care or have played the games or read the lore they focus on idpol and circlejerking over one bad scene when much worse things are in the game
>>744244061they aren't good for anything at this moment, the only thing they can shit out is wokeslop after wokeslop. just shut down that retarded studio.
>>744244242Acceptable opinions range from "somewhat above average" -to- "very good but with flaws that preclude greatness."
>>744243225EA has let every single IP they own turn to shit. Both them and Bioware deserve nothing less than bankruptcy.
>>744243641It was, and it is.Also as much as I used to respect Gaider for BG2 stuff, he became such a fucking shrieking queen that I can't stand him. Can't fuck a dwarven woman because ewww, but he can lust after dwarven men just fine. Hypocritical bitch.
>>744243641>Being a DA Origin fan must be sufferingNot really. It was a single good game, and the last game made before the old Bioware leads left the company. The DLC was bad 2 was bad, and from then on it was clear that the company was dead and future projects were safe to write-off as not worth playing. I don't consider DA's after Origin to even be the same series.
>>744243010Zoom out mr shitface!
>>744243437We were joking about EA killing bioware 10 years ago. Praying for it even. It wont happen. Bioware is the only company EA will not kill, because it’s already dead.
>>744244874honestly even DA:O is kind of ass. The combat isn't very interesting, and neither is class customization and itemization. It's carried almost entirely by the writing, which is very solid though I do wish the dwarf questline had a little more maneuverability in playing the game of dwarven politics because needing to do shit for either candidate before even getting to meet with them and discuss their policy kind of sucks.
>>744243527>Giving up AFTER inquisition Holy fuck. Witcher 3 mogged that game to mars and back its not even funny. Tragic how bioware was coasting on being a niche filler for so long until CDPR moved in.
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>>744242804The series was never any good, so if anything, they should consider themselves lucky they managed to make what they did off of it.
>>744245087>honestly even DA:O is kind of assI re-played it not that many years ago and you're right, it is also extremely short.It was amazing at the time though.
>>744243820Fields are barren? Witcher Darkest Dungeon(Debatedly) Crusader KingsDark SoulsTo name a few
>>744244242Shouldve seen the cracks even back then. EA murdered bioware after ME2 lol
>>744243980Furious Jorje destroying himself over Supergirl is the funniest thing he's ever done.
>>744245087The writing has aged in an uncanny way.. aside from the dark fantasy it just reeks of generic fantasy dogma bullshit, doesn’t really go anywhere interesting or new.
>>744242804N'wah, them bioware n'wahs have been reping the series for 15 yearsDid they really expect anyone would like what they were doing?
EA will have to drop and give bioware a barve if they expect any more Dragon Age.
>>744242912>>744242804Return to form bros...
>>744242804>Gaider*GayderBecause he's a sith
>>744245192The newest game on that list is 6 years old, and it's CK3, which by your own admission barely counts
>>744245173yeah my replay of the game just last year is what informed my opinion on the game now. >>744245269I dunno I quite liked it, I think the church ruling over and oppressing the mages is a neat twist on a fantasy setting where more often than not wizards are extremely powerful people in both arcane prowess and political power. I do think Logain's plot was kind of bad and nonsensical though, but at least the game does understand this slightly by having the civil war take place.
good riddance, FUCK FAGWARE!
>>744242804Everyone involved in feminizing the franchise is to blame.Unless someone has the balls to just come out, name the problem (feminization), and name the problem-causers, I'm going to assume that the destruction of Bioware's reputation was a collaborative effort and that the entirety of the leadership needs to not work in this industry anymore.
>>744245230I was willing to give it a try, even after ME3, because it was a different IP, but it was just so shit.
>>744245406Meh, I guess you’re right. Apparently theres some new dlc for witcher 3 coming soon though. Cant be THAT hard to find new dark fantasy games, it isnt that niche, and you shouldnt have to resort to Dragon Age for it. >>744245476Honestly, BioWares rpgs in the 90s and onwards were good, but moving on from that their writing in Kotor and beyond just fell flat. A few different eras here and there. DAO had a few original ideas to stand out but it was never truly memorable like fucking Kreia or something.
>>744242804Holy fuck, we won
>>744245671Yea. Writing was on the wall at that point in fairness. Just a very somber experience all in all
I honestly realized some time ago that all I really cared about was Dragon Age Origins. That's it. Everything else was a complete mess or just aggressively mediocre.>Dragon Age 2 was incredibly unfinished, rushed, ugly as sin, and watered down the actual RPG side of things, specifically dialogue, in such a way it was absurd>Dragon Age Inquisition was incredibly poorly written at times, had bland/obnoxious characters, continued the simplistic choice/dialogue of DA2, and then introduced empty open world gameplay where you go from place to place marking off spots on the map>Dragon Age Veilguard was a disaster in almost every way, with some of the most boring gameplay I've ever experienced, truly abysmal characters/writing/dialogue, basically zero player input on events happening, asinine choices for the overall world/reasoning behind key events in the series, boring environments despite taking from the best of the best lore-wise, and really awful pandering throughout the game that would annoy even the most liberal-minded personThere are parts of the other games you can argue were somewhat decent, like the Friend/Rival system of DA2, the DLC of Inquisition, things like that. But honestly? There's a single good game to the entire series. It's wild how long its been kept going and milked when it had one good entry that, arguably, isn't even the best in its genre.
>>744245758THisI didn't even care for Awakening lmaoJust the base game was enough for me to fanboy it for decades
>>744245758Wasting like 10 years on veilguard doomed this shitty ip for good
>>744242804I mean this genuinely: if you want Bioware-esque games, Larian now fills that space. Same fantasy genre, same immense focus on romance, same general depth in systems/dialogue, same corny/messy writing, same unfinished content you find out about a month after release, hell, they literally took Bioware's old franchise and made a sequel that won GOTY from it.Basically every positive and negative you could point towards with old Bioware is something you can find in current Larian.
>>744245758Hit the nail on the head in ways I never even cared to ahah
>>744245758The universe had promise to me. All these mystery boxes and potentially new world changing events going on that amounted to jackshit in the end. Sure it didnt do anything original but I got invested in the names, the characters, the magic and cultural systems.
>>744245758Why expose yourself to something like Veilguard if you hated the prior two games? And more importantly: why support this studio with money?
>>744245861As depressing as it sounds its more or less true.
>>744245798Maybe, but they've been struggling to figure out an identity for the series since Origins. They tried DA2's more simplistic style and that fumbled, they tried expanding everything into a modern pseudo-open world with Inquisition which saw some success (but was still heavily criticized), and then they said screw it, let's just make a casual action-RPG and double down on pandering/romance slop with Veilguard.I don't know if it would've mattered much if Veilguard came out 2 years after Inquisition or 10 years. The love for DA still exists, hence why we're even having this thread. But the devs can't seem to figure out that they basically just had to make DA:O, but again.
>>744243550Good times. It’s so nice when /v/ gets together to shit on a genuinely bad game
>>744245950>and then they said screw it, let's just make a casual action-RPG and double down on pandering/romance slop with Veilguard.What they released was the 4 version after multiple hard resets.
>>744245923Exactly. Everything I hear people complain about regarding Larian's games is the same shit I heard back when DA:O came out.>The writing is too goofy at times!>They focus too much on romance!>This last bit of the game kind of sucks and feels unfinished!>These characters feel like they're just pandering to this specific group!It's the same. The good, the bad, all of it. If anything, at least Larian gives a bit more depth with how you interact with the world and making unique character builds. Old Bioware games never let you chuck a party member off a cliff second one, or change each character's class from start to finish with whatever wild/dumb build you want.
>>744246034That kind of just lends more credence to my point: they can't figure out what the hell they want to make. Despite the fact that they could essentially re-skin DA:O's gameplay/environments, make a fresh party, say, "Oh no! Another Blight is happening! Go find allies to fight the Archdemon!", and bam, a million copies sold. Instead they tried pseudo-action gameplay, open worlds, all kinds of nonsense.
>>744242804Mass Effect, truly the golden child, which is why they whored it out to a new scab studio after 3 and then immediately shelved it for a decade and scuttled the studio. Bioware needs to face facts. They're run like dogshit, everyone knows about "Bioware magic", they make constant bad calls, and their work is just bad. I don't know why EA hasn't just dissolved them and try to rebuild from the ground up after Baldur's Gate 3 came along and ate their lunch showing that Bioware's work is getting literally 1% of its potential sales.
>>744246242I'm not absolving Bioware devs of their role in their own downfall, but EA buying them was the exact moment they went to shit, and I don't see any sign that modern EA is any more cut out to improve a studio than back when they were industry's greatest parasite.
>>744243437Give Mass Effect to Korea. They can at the very least make sexy women.
>>744246397Nobody forced them to sell the studio, and EA has owned them for 20 years, just shut it down.Would I like EA shut down at the same time? Sure. But FIFA can continue getting worse for all I care, Bioware is just sad.
>>744242804finally EA does something good
>>744242912yeah, with a.. let me... um... return to... form?
>>744242804go woke, go bro-errr flop the charts
On the one hand, sucks that your series got invaded by faggots who poisoned it from the inside. But on the other hand, execs are unoriginal hacks who'll sit on properties for a couple decades then roll them back out with a new coat of paint.10, maybe 15 years from now, they'll probably remake the original Dragon Age, just to test the waters for if a sequel would work. Provided you're not dead or over gaming by then, that's your last chance I wager. Of course, even if they do decide to do something with the series, they could just circle back to make it a live service or whatever other trendy crap is big 5-10 years from now. Things look grim, but with enough copium, you can find a silver lining.
Good, only the first game is canon btw
Why are women obsessed with Inquisition and writing gay romance?
>>744243550Somehow the only thing that comes to my mind when thinking of Inquisition is Elliot Flynt. I don't even remember why the tranny is linked yo it, it's fucking weird
>>744246606But that's how the game goes, first the push you into a publisher and then the publisher demands more and more till they offer to buy the company.Publishers bought out store shelf spaces, good luck with your 2 copies on the shelf on some dark corner without a publisher. The time of sending money per mail and then getting the game was long over.
>>744242804>>Dragon Age fans?dragon age didn't have fans, bioware forums had romance character fans
>>744244659EA buys something and then the creators check out and let it go to shit.
>>744242804Dragon age is a series that has only had 1 (one) decent game in it.At least Mass Effect had 2.5 good games
>>744243641Origins had a satisfying and complete story with some nice DLC as a bit of a digestif at the end of it.I don’t need anything else.
>>744245758For me the Rine ended with DA2.
>>744247476The game lowkey had such a nice control scheme on consoles, i loved itit played so much like a third person rpg instead of a topdown crpg like the pc versoin did
>>744242804Bioware is up there with obsidian for the gayest AAA dev on earth. These "writer first" studios are horrific. Expecting anything out of any of them post culturewar meltdown is absolutely delusional. The communist DEI shit was like crack to videogame writers and none of these kind of devs survived it
>>744242804Maybe I'm misremembering, but hasn't every dragon age since the first had a mixed reception? Honestly sort of baffling thst we got as many as we did.
>>744243175>Or drop the grim setting in favor of sparkledog wholesome gay D&DThe most baffling thing about that was how the Bioware writers talked about it like dropping dark fantasy would reach a "wider audience", while looking at the fantasy landscape right now, dark fantasy IS the mainstream fantasy with the widest appeal. Warhammer, A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones and other dark and gritty stories dominate the genre. Hell, even the most popular women's romantasy fantasy books are all about toxic romances and various degrees of rape kinks. The wholesome safe fantasy is ironically the marginal niche.
>>744242804Veilguard would have been an order of magnitude worse if EA hadn’t interfered.The rescue team they brought in were the ones that made the gameplay tolerable and, from the passive aggressive remarks from the original team, clearly despised the plot and tried to tone it down.EA’s fault is giving the original team enough rope to hang themselves and not coming in with jackboots earlier.
>>744248317Inquisition had crazy good sales and critical reception considering how mid it was.
>>744243010>>744242912>>744242804>destroy your franchise just to have a jew suck you off for a few dayswas it worth it
>>744244004>Do we'll never see
>>744248148Maybe DA2 was a good game but forcing Hawke onto the players was a mistake. Then they threw him away with a timeskip in the next game.Dragon Age is not a good series
>>744248513>Maybe DA2 was a good game
I just don't understand that if your series and studio is under threat of you going under and having your ENTIRE staff lose their jobs - why not do the obvious thing and sell a good game?I know that making a good game is hard, but you could at least give people what they want and make Giga Chad Hero man game. Who asked for a gay tranny fantasy game?
>>744248349Unsafe edgy is a risk. You can do it well and reap a lot of benefits from that but if you do it poorly you'll have wished you went for something less polarizing Safe edge is what i call corporate edge. Its as inoffensive as possible so if you have a writing team you don't trust, they have a much harder time fucking it up
>>744248580It genuinely feels like that a lot of western game industry creatives and suits alike think that if we are not going to get diverse and vibrant gay games then we should just have no games at all.
>>744248580Everyone should look up the wikipedia entry on this game. It was a massive mess.
>>744248536I wouldn't know i didn't buy or play it. The change in the MC made me not to.
>>744247376No idea what the obsession with inquisition is since im never going to play that garbage. Certain insecure women want to see romance involving men they like without having to compare themselves or internally compete with the woman so they write tonnes of gay shit. The type of woman who writes fanfic self selects for this kind of heightened insecurity.
>>744242804>series where only the first game was good will never have a game againtragic i guess
>>744248703It's a horrendous game without a single redeeming mechanic.
>series that has never had a good game is deadGood
>>744248838Yeah, i tried origins way back in the day, and the opening cutscene was grimdark edgekino but then the combat fucking sucked and i dropped it in like 2 hours
>>744242804What are you talking about?Dragon Age hasn't been good since Origins
Every time someone says that Dragon Age 2 was "decent" I remember how that game degraded side quests into a "I found someone's pants in a dungeon, I must bring them back to their owner for a reward".A design so ingenious, they even applied it to Mass Effect 3. Now you was able to find someone's space pants on some other planet and retuen them to their owner on the Citadel.
>>744242804But...But it was a return to form!
>>744242804>EA so bad ablooablooooooYes but not only did they sell their asses to EA voluntarily, no publisher meddling could explain the abomination that was Veilguard. It could have been cancelled mid development 5 times and that still explains 0% of the woke brainrot and lore disasters in the game because that was all their doing. I hope they all become permaunemployed in the vidya field.
>>744242804Good, fagon age was always trash.
Origins is apparently the only passable DA game but I dropped it as a middle schooler because the writing embarrassed meVeilguard was shockingly atrocious and the studio has refused to acknowledge or address that reality so it falls to EA to make things right, but in classic EA fashion the solution is to sit back, vault another ip, and continue paying worthless devs. Veilguard was truly so bad that the only answer in my opinion is to gut the studio or close it, anyone with a positive opinion of that trash is only capable of producing more trash
>>744244004Only in our dreams and maybe some blender animations.
>>744249108Do these people ever listen to themselves when writing reviews? >A triumphant crowning achievement of human spectacle, a glistening gem, a return to form, a visual treat from beginning to end, heartfelt and thought provokingIf these people just gave sincere criticism once in their life they wouldnt be so hated.
>They can't remaster Origins because they forgot how the engine worksUh how are modders making texture mods then?
I'm replaying Origins right now, it's fun. Morrigan and Leliana are cute. Never really cared about the other games.
>>744249345This is good for us, because it makes it so much easier to spot really shitty paid reviews that need to contain a specific phrase.If they want to make it more visible for us, by all means let them keep shooting themselves.
>>744242804why does everything EA touch, it dies?
>>744242804whenever they say "mixed reviews" they mean: mostly negative by wider audience (the customers), "huge backlash" is when everyone wants to rip them a new on: remember there's a reason they are using old dragon age to nostalgia bait and fear monger about this and make bleeding hearts who have not seen the atrocity that is veilguard to try and win some sympathy points: kill them where they stand.
>>744242804Dragon Age Origins is the only good Dragon Age game, and it's still mediocre.
>>744243010This makes more sense if you know he's jewish.
>>744248785It was a very good game.
>>744249345>If these people just gave sincere criticism once in their life they wouldnt be so hated.They don't give a fuck about the audience reception, all they want is gift bags and free trips by big media companies.https://youtu.be/pVjU47iPNbg?si=Xp_a7ribtqi4RNUG
>>744243010>>744242912Yet Nolan's Odyssey successed, so...
>>744243550>a weekthey spent months desperately defending it
>>744247376I've been puzzled by that one for a long time too. Pretty much every girl who plays RPGs I've talked to loves Inquisition, but played 1st game like once at most.There is something about dramatic dark fantasy with characters and relationships that's very appealing to women.Pic related features gore and sex scenes in every episode, yet girls love it.
>>744249557I also forgot to mention another one. Its not always tied to reviews but its always this passive aggressive “and thats a good thing!” Always something wildly controversial or bad thats undercut by the reviewer or journo saying that shit. It pisses me off everytime.
>>744249689The female MC also gets gang raped.
>>744242804>Dragon Age>SeriesI will never understand why they have the audacity to call DA a "franchise" given that from an objective perspective it only has one decent and playable entry that came out 17 years ago, and everything after has been a everlasting fall into a repeating nadir abyss.
>>744242804That's sad, I waited almost 20 years for another Dragon Age game. Never understood why they didn't make any more after Dragon Age Origins.
>>744249642>>It was a very good game.
>>744243608>no one is buying their garbageYou're mistaken. Normies are still slurping this slop
>>744249695Oh those 'reviewers' say that purely to ragebait people into reading their bullshit.It's like how mobile game ads have the people play like absolute dogshit to try and get you to do better by downloading the game.Unfortunatly we live in an age where this stratagy still somehow works, so you simply have to grit your teeth and ignore them.
>>744242804I look forward to mass effect 4 being niggerslop where cerberus or some other alt right terrorist human supremacist group is the games main antagonists despite asari literally hiding the existence of reapers for thousands of years and directly causing untold hundreds of millions of deaths. The saudis will finally put this studio out of it's misery when it flops.
>>744249757Something game companies r gonna realize soon is the star wars problemWas like 15 years without a film so this "new generation" they're targeting doesn't have any nostalgia for the old moviesI've never played a bioware game. The first time I was interested in a bioware game was Andromeda and then I saw the reviews sucked so I passedThen anthem came out but it was an ea live service title from a studio not known for live services so I waited for reviews and skipped that tooThen I saw veilguard and remembered bioware was responsible for Andromeda and anthem so I waited for reviews and again skipped itSo bioware has failed to win me over as a customer for 3 releasesI did buy mass effect legendary edition but haven't played it
I dont care. We are seeing millions of mass layoffs and I hope these people kill themselves.If you make games to push an agenda instead of respecting your audience, you are evil.
>>744243608Bioware is probably some EA executive's personal tax write off scheme. It would certainly explain as to why the studio still hasn't been shut down, despite EA closing down numerous other studios for far lesser things.
>>744249936it boggles the mind how these modern studios can produce slop and somehow remain in business and pay employees.
The story arc is over anyway. There's really no point in continuing.
>>744249642The only good thing about it was that it was solid on a technical standpoint.Everything else was absolute shit except the ending where you can get everyone killed off, a fitting ending for the final release.
>>744246048>Old Bioware games never let you chuck a party member off a cliff I liked DAO because you could do this, you could completely miss Leliana and Sten, you could kill Zevran immediately, you could have Alistair executed and replaced with Loghain, your character could reject a lot of the premise and instead learn blood magic, fuck over the grey wardens for power etc. It only got dumber and more cartoony in the next games.
>>744242804there hasn't been a decent game since origins anyway. Origins was great and all but how many decades of garbage games were you guys gonna tolerate before realising another good one wasn't going to happen
For anyone on PC wanting to play DA:O again, look into thishttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=233222451and thishttps://github.com/adarec1994/eluvian
>>744242983Why, Veilguard's mixed reception.
>>744249652It was actually anti-woke because he took out all the parts where women did anything of value
>>744250127I killed Wynne in my first playthrough and made through the game without a healer
>>744243820Dread Delusions (and Entropy)Tainted GrailLies of P Banquet for FoolsSerpent of the StaglandsAgainst the Dark PrioryMight be more.
>>744242804They can't even do remakes of DA1 cuz noone is left who knows how the engine worked. This isn't Bioware, but trannies pretending to be Bioware. And they killed DA.
>>744247376The same reason you play Underage Pantyquest 3. Everyone is horny.
>>744242804REST IN PISS DEGENERATES
>>744242912Mixed is a massive sugar coating.
By this point I'd say it's pretty obvious that the first game being good was a merely a happy mistake.
I like every Dragon Age game.
>>744242804>EA’s complicated relationship with shipping games at allI just checked and holy shit what even happened to EA. They're basically cruising off their sports/Sims/BF slop and release like 1 game per year that's not in one of these categories.They used to be one of the biggest names in the industry, now they're a literally who lmao.
>>744250569>mistakeWas it? I always just assumed the people responsible for making it good just got tired of dealing with EA and quit after the game came out.
>>744245913How can you genuinely hate something if you don't expose yourself to everything it offers? Parrot what other people say?
>>744250427art imitates life...
>>744245758>>744245895Yup. And while you can blame EA for how unfinished 2 is everything else is completely on Bioware. The latest cope where they try to justify everything on EA liking ME more, when in fact they hated the world set up by Origins and wanted to change it constantly.
>>744249108Man this is "some members of the media"-tier
>>744249652Uh oh
>>744250685This does seem to be the woke method. Have repellent people make displeasing products and then expect the hate watchers / players to buy it.
Dont believe there is a single thing to point at to blame what happened, but reading stuff behind the scenes paints a picture:Bioware was publisher and developer until bought by VG Holdings, then sold to EA. Both ME and DAO was in development before any of this. The EA buy should have been a red flag, but Ray and Greg mustve been too blinded by money to see what happened to Origin systems. From there EA ran Bioware like they did sports games, which is where the disconnect happened. DA2 was originally an expansion started alongside Awakening. There was never meant to be a sequel, which is why the epilogue in O are so final. EA insisted on calling it «2». Inquisition was met with executive meddling every step of the way saying «Why isnt this like Skyrim? You gotta make it more like Skyrim. Add mounts! Make map bigger, fill it with shit!» Both DA4 and ME5 was in early development when Casey Hudson make a return and fucking sold EA a castle in the clouds called Anthem. Casey fucked off again and EA ran down the doors at Bioware demanding they make this miracle Destiny killer. Veilguard was originally a similar live service game, like Avowed, not a lot of dev history come out of that one.Whatever you think of Bioware’s skill, EA is awful to work under.
>>744242804Veilguard was great actually, and they EA should greenlight a game even more Veilguardy.>I despise everybody involved for fucking up this franchise.Steak too juicy.
>>744249652>successed
>>744250636>I like every Dragon Age game.Same! Reddit is retarded. 4chan is retarded. Twitter is retarded. Literally every DA game is a banger.
>>744250946>buy
>>744250636>guy who only played Dragon Age games
>>744251027That reads like half of corporate software acquisitions where a team either does not have a competent leadership to justify operations or someone higherup needs this done in a specific way to get their mbo. And that doesn't absolve them of creative decisions they made ingame, when you get management and top down rush you get DA2 not veilshit.
>>744242804Origins is the only Dragon Age game ever made and you can't convince me otherwise
>>744243215Yes and he was wrong to do so and the "poltroon" was in fact correct, you cretin.
>>744249652Its the exact same situation as Veilguard was. You are lying and will be exposed in a month or so.
>>744249652Movie watching normalfags are completely detached from online culture wars. They just see Odyssey from that Batman director dude.
>series with one good game and 3 abhorrent gamesGood riddance.
>>744243437>the next Mass Effect>nextWe already had Andromeda
>>744243801They'll fuck it up regardless. Even if they can control themselves and leave the woke shit out, they are simply incompetent.
>>744243437Bioware games sell on brand alone so shutting down the studio wouldn’t make alot of sense. If the products come out lacking in quality but it still sells fine then just gut and replace the workforce like they did with Veilguard.
>>744243105>>744243165Oh my god, I thought I was on ResetEra for some reason, and just felt like I was having an aneurysm.
>>744243437People have been saying this since ToR.
>>744242912>*checks notes*
>>744249652the fact that you're bringing that up unsolicited basically confirms that anyone shilling that movie here is a tranny
>>744242804>literally only one good game 16 years agoit's a miracle that this "series" even existed for that longshould have died a decade ago
>>744245087The funny thing about DA:O is when you think about replaying it, half the damn game is "that level".>The Fade>The Deep Roads>The Mage Tower
>>744245758Rine ended with 2 for me. I was shocked at how bad it was. Funny thing is I thought it was a one off mistake and got burned EVEN HARDER by ME3.
>>744245861>>744245923Owlcat is better than Larian in all of those aspects. WotR is the first CRPG to unseat BG2 as the all time greatest.
>>744246048>Old Bioware games never let you chuck a party member off a cliff second one, or change each character's class from start to finish with whatever wild/dumb build you want.BG2 absolutely lets you do some fucking crazy things to the party members.
>>744252376I like 2/3 of those. The Fade is the one that drains my will to live.
>>744252474WoTR is fucking garbage and still missing a shitton of content.Also features the worst prologue in all of gaming.
>>744242804>Mass Effect Andromeda>Anthem>Dragon Age VeilguardWhy is Bioware allowed to continue existing after three omega flops in a row while EA pulls the plug on studios like Visceral Games and Bullfrog Productions and Westwood because they release a single game that merely meets its sales expectations?
>>744248785There's a few redeeming mechanics, the Rivalmance system was great for example. But overall, garbage game.
>>744247073Flop like Nolan's Odyssey?
>>744250886What's a push vote?
>>744246048>Old Bioware games never let you chuck a party member off a cliffpretty sure you could kill all your companions in Origins, other than MorriganAnd I think you could kill most of them in 2, but Inquisition was where they've stopped allowing you to do that
>>744248580>Who asked for a gay tranny fantasy game?Modern audience aka not (you)
>>744252314>>744251850>>744251806>>744251156>>744250886Holy cope
