How would you defeat it?>Just wa-It's coming towards us, we don't have all day, Cap'n!
>>744680358defeat a black hole?just throw something with more mass at it aka your mom
They don't exist.>B-but hecking redditor science man said they do! THEY CALCULATED IT FROM BAJILLION LIGHT YEARS AWAY YOU CHUDThey don't exist
>>744680358>Sagittarius N
As objects approach a black hole, they appear more and more redshifted and time moves slower and slower.As you move toward a black hole, eventually, directions lead you closer to the center.As you look toward the edge the universe, the farther away it is, the redder and slower it is.The edge of the universe, 13 billion light-years away, is the event horizon of a black hole.
>>744680761>it's black holes all the way down
>>744680737aqua's beatiful shaved pink anus
>>744680358Blacked hole
>>744680358I learn it's attack patterns and press my roll button and then strike it
>black holeResponsibility usually defeats them
>>744680761>via black holes, universes are naturally selected for how much they can reproduce and create other universes
>black holehide its food stamps underneath its work boots
>>744680358Delete it. Remove all matter and thus the gravity effect ends.
Just parry it.Or throw more stuff at it than it can handle.
>>744680761proof these threads are just wankfests on who can fflex the most facts they have memorized to make anons go 'WOOOOAH ITS SO BIG AND VAST HOLY COSMIC DREAD!!' and you try to one up each other and jerk off
>>744681179found the seething brainlet
>>744680358Easy
Basedientists would rather believe there's a physically impossible singularity inside black holes rather than just mass
>>744681263You mean Dark Stars?
>>744681263I think they DON'T want it and are trying furiously to find alternative explanations because it breaks le ebin determinism or something.
The scariest game I played? Space Engine
>>744681483Not really determinism but physics abhors infinities and the conservation of mass is a foundational pillar of our understandings of reality. Saying that gravity can just delete matter or stuff it into an infinitesimal point in space doesn't make any fucking sense. But it does happen in reality which means now we need to find a way to explain it. Which is a little hard when event horizons give nothing away.
>>744681263it's actually mathematicians who believe it's a singularity
>>744680358I've asked the top minds at the /v/ tower and we've decided its steamchart numbers aren't high enough for it to matter
>>744680358>How would you defeat it?You don't. You embrace it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De0yWMqB4H8
>>744681179>threads are just wankfestsfirst hour here?
>>744680761Inside a black hole, space and time swap places
>>744680358I wish black holes were just warp holes that portal you to random places in the universe
>>744683057Not quite.At any position you can find coordinates that fit the -1,1,1,1, trace.You're stretching the interpretation of the pure math beyond its usefulness.Pay attention that from outside the EH you'll never observe an object crossing it, it needs to get to infinite time.But an object's own reference frame has it crossing in finite time.
>>744681179>t.
>>744680737whats in the center of galaxies then
>>744681168>Or throw more stuff at it than it can handle.Wouldn't that create a naked singularity, that could potentially melt the laws of physics?
>>744681179space isnt real so its the perfect thing for globeheads to think about nothing at all
>>744684252Who cares. Laws of physics are there for us to master and break.
>>744680358>put on my indestructible suit>jump into it till i make my way to the singularity>time speeds up an unfathomable amount of years>it evaporatesWon by jumping onto it like Mario. So easy.
>>744680358gravity is definitely the most powerful damage type. nothing else can warp the entire existence around it
>>744685128Gravity is actually the weakest of the fundamental forces. Except unlike Strong Force, Magnetism, and Weak Force, all of which one take effect across small distances, Gravity never fucking stops. It's like the Dark Soul. Yeah the gods have the highest power level but Humanity and the Dark Soul can just keep going forever if something doesn't stop it
>God isn't real, but this completely made up totally ridiculous bullshit totally isI'm so tired of fedora tippers posting here without being banned.
>>744681928Dunno but I like the idea that there is no "real" singularity. It just time reverses to a white hole.
>>744684139Chuck Norris
>>744680358>bloopBlack hole's gone.
>>744685065Only good post
>>744684139>bro everything just collapses into blackholes bro!>oh shit, we violated laws of thermodynamics with blackhole theory. QUICK we need to come up with an explanation about how black holes can expire. I know! hawking radiation! Because quantum is fuzzy and weird so anything can happen :) There!frauds, conmen, all of themhumanity will never uncover invisible hands of the forces that shape material world
>>744685460A black hole is observable and measurable, and in fact, it has been observed. The concept of God you probably mean is not measurable by definition. I'm not saying God doesn't exist in an absolute sense, but that it's a false equivalence.Furthermore, it's not something they "invented" but something that emerged from the logic of a mathematical model that had already shown experimental evidence. And above all, it's not the first time in the history of science that this has happened. Maxwell predicted the existence of electromagnetic waves before they were observed, similarly, Dirac predicted the positron before it was observed. Are you trying to tell me that electromagnetic waves are an invention?
>>744680737This, I don't really understand how we can even know what a blackhole is, what it does exactly, or what its even like. And all I see is >WELL WE RAN THE FREAKIN EQUATIONS!!
>>744680358when you encounter a black hole, you simply eat it.
>>744684139What’s inside the Bootes Void?
>>744686442Me. Don't go there, I don't want any visitors.
>>744686076yeah and there's a giant floating turtle holding us right?
>>744686442Reminder that this is pronounced Boot-ay, be sure to say it right when speaking in public.
>>744686225Funnily enough that's also how Neptune was discovered. Uranus wasn't following the expected path and mathematical deduction made astronomers realize there was enough gravitational force affecting it. Working backwards they found our 8th planet
>>744686592It's not floating, it's standing on a bigger turtle
>calculations make no sense>hmmm it's because there's a big black hole in the sky!>still don't make sense>It's hmmmm... invis- no, DARK MATTER, it's dark matter guys!Science has really gone down the drain
>>744686248Physics doesn't work that way. If it were just equations, it would remain purely in the hypothetical realm alongside string theory (and indeed, objects like wormholes have never been observed, whereas black holes have). Physics is not mathematics. Physics is what is measured and observed in nature, a single measurement, provided it is verified, that totally contradicts a predictive model is enough to discard or modify the theory. Nothing is made up: you start from observed phenomena, build a mathematical model to explain them, and test whether it holds up or not.A physical theory is not a hypothesis, it is a hypothesis that has accumulated a vast amount of supporting experimental evidence, without a single contradictory data point within its specific domain of validity.
>>744686592Actually it's four elephants standing on a giant floating turtle.
>>744684307she cute
>>744686592No, I'm holding the world.
>>744686442That's not the Boötes Void, it's just a gas cloud blocking the stars.The Boötes void is FAR bigger.>What’s insideThere are a few galaxies, but they are really sparse. If there's an alien civilization there, it could believe they are the only galaxy in the whole world, since light didn't have time to reach them from other galaxies.I'm more interested in knowing what the fuck the Great Attractor is.
>>744686442None of your business...
>>744686883You know what's doubly funny? When Einstein's famous equation predicted black holes, Einstein himself didn't believe they were possible. You put a lot of mass into a small space and suddenly the gravity present would crush everything within it and never allow anything out again since nothing can exceed the speed of light. Einstein thought there must be some physical force that would stop that from happening. Einstein himself made the equation and he was still wrong about black holes because the only thing relativity does is describe nature as we see it. That's why it's endured for so long.
>>744680358Even black holes will eventually lose all their energy. Just wait it out.
>>744687173By that point the universe is literally over
>>744680358listen to what it has to say and befriend it
>>744687217>literally gotta do nothing to win>anon still complainsThis is why we can't have nice things.
>>744687270I JUST WANT TO LIVE IN THE PERIOD OF TIME WHERE ROBOT WAIFUS EXIST!
>>744687270Not respecting the player time, shit game design.
>>744687323Just give it 10 or so years. And then overthrow your corporate overlords who will control every aspect of your life even more-so than now.
>>744684252No, it would shart out the excess energy.Pic relared, it's a 5 thousand light-year long fart
>Don't trust the science goyim, the earth is flat, with god putting a lid on it every night.
>>744687019This is literally just fanfic. How do we know any of this?
>>744680358I throw this in its fat fuck mouth
>>744687429>Ermmmmmm trust the science even though we were completely wrong about dinosaurs!
>>744687019>what the fuck the Great Attractor is.The start of the Big Crunch>born too late to explore the world>race is born too late to explore the universe
>>744687451>stare at sky>notice repeating trends>write down repeating trends>build models that describe and predict trends>build scopes that let you see sky with increasing clarity>use data from better tools to make more accurate modelsThe fucking Mayans did this. Hell the term "planet" is a Greek word for "wandering star." Ancient people had better information gathering skill than you
>>744687535The only reason we know people were wrong with prior conceptions of dinosaurs is because of scientists who studied them though...
Use the Penrose process until it becomes harmless.
>>744686076At least Hawkin Radiation is acknowledged as an ass pull in a professional way, but no one either cares enough to push back or dig in deeper atm.
>>744687451You can determine galaxies' position based on their light's redshift (meaning it's getting farther), or blueshift (meaning it's getting closer).Document them and boom, you have a 3D model of the visible universe.
>>744687169If I had a nickel for every time Einstein rejected a wild implication of modern physics just to be proven wrong later, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
>>744680358I punch it.
>>744687535>Paleontologists have to reconstruct dead animals from fossilized, incomplete skeletons, it's like trying to find a needle in a dark room.>They don't get it right for the first time, since technology is evolving and it helps us discover new things and new fossils>"science has failed us"ok
>>744680358>How would you defeat it?you can't defeat gods. this simply isn't our fight.
>>744680761It's called the Doppler effect anon and it's not some esoteric truth that only you're aware of
>>744687751redshift is only used for galaxies that are extremely far away. everything else is based on cepheid variable stars or just guessing how luminous we think features should be
>>744687939
Physics is the best game ever made>>744687697>but no one either cares enough to push back or dig in deeper atm.There's an entire fucking field dedicated to make general relativity compatible with quantum mechanics
>>744687535
>we can't even fully explore our own oceans but uhhhhhh we totally somehow know what's out there 300 million light years away :)Do you think they laugh at us?
>>744685369>"joke" attack doesn't have a damage capdevs never learn do they
>>744688080>You spent 3 hours on that?
>>744680358>How would you defeat it?Get angry enough.
>>744688096You can't see your own dick but everyone feels the ground shaking before they even see you arriving. Would you like a food metaphor?
>>744680358Can we fuck it?
>>744688096Exploring space is just looking up, exploring the oceans is going down kms deep to the abyssal plain and trying not to get imploded by the massive pressure.But we have a good idea of the oceans' geography
>>744680358Nobody's realised yet that these things are susceptible to a high beam of neutrinos across the event horizonPops the thing like a bubble
>>744687990JRPGs would like to have a word with you
>>744680358I would wait approximately one googolplex years for it to eventually evaporate due to Hawking radiation.
>>744680358Negative Energy/Matter. Note: I did not say Anti-Energy/Matter.Negative Energy/Matter, when introduced to a system, depletes the system of energy/matter. This is true even for a black hole. It has never been observed and is only theoretically possible mathematically, but if we're going into a hypothetical situation then a hypothetical solution should be sufficient.Personally, I think such exotic matter would also explain white holes which are also only hypothetical so far.Anyway, as long as you can pump enough negative matter or energy into the black hole, you would effectively erase it. Again, only technically possible mathematically, especially since matter/energy cannot be destroyed, but still. It's a solution.
>>744688354In English, Einstein.
>>744688096>he thinks the eldritch beings are in the far reaches of space instead of the depths, the origin of life itselfanon, Life as we know only exists on Earth. Azatoth is not up there. don't poke your nose too deep.
>>744680358Are we outside of it?Well then let's just go away.
>>744688096It's easier to find something that is literally larger than the size of our own solar system than it is to find the minutia of the ground that's in a lightless environment killometers underwater.Whomst'dve thunked?
>>744688454Behold the mad pipers of Azathoth!
>>744680737>>744686248Does it make you feel superior and smart to be like this?
>>744680358>It's coming towards us, we don't have all day, Cap'n!As long as our future light cone doesn't intersect the future event horizon it's not my fucking problem
>>744688268Only if you're big enough to penetrate her event horizon and reach her singularity.
>>744680737>>744686248these are the people claiming there's a magic man in the sky who one day farted the whole universe and then created mankind cause he was bored
>>744686442This world has been connected.. Tied to the darkness.
>>744688530There's invisible walls.
>>744686442That's a dust cloud. It's only 400 light years away. Dumbass falling for boomer clickbait pictures
>>744688440Negative energy is a cope for mathematicians that can’t get their sums to add up
>>744680358I'll just fly straight into it and it'll spit me out with overheating, no big deal
>>744688595Wh-what are you talking about?
>>744688683do the reverse of energy/matter and you get negative. that's all it really is. i don't believe it actually exists myself. it's a paradox imo. "close the closed door" type of shit.
>>744680737Aquajeet failed astronomy 101
>>744688784Those who know nothing can understand nothing.
>>744688581The Big Bang and a lot of the science around black holes was largely pioneered by Jesuits and etc priests in the Catholic Church my guy. They've employed astrophysicists for centuries and the Vatican Observatory still does a lot of research
Ride the event horizon for the mother of all Oberth burns.
>>744684139ur mum LOL
>>744680358Fake and gay stop wasting your watching slop videos about this crap.
>>744680358>It's coming towards usso fly out of the way then
>>744680737they exist. they are called your mom LOL faggot
>>744688576how does it feel to be the only species, form of life and cluster of matter in existence that is egotistical enough to represent literal cosmic entities, absurdly beyond the scope of other cosmic objects let alone a shitty sun let alone a single dust ball spinning around it like a drunk marble, as their own species doing very degrading sexual things? I mean, there's nothing to compare to. we're 4,5 billion years deep in evolution and this is what we're doing right now.
>>744680737They exist, chud! We have CGI pictures of it. Believe the science.
>>744689059it's not our fault evolution programmed us to think with our dicksfor all we know there could be aliens somewhere a million light years away gooning to their version of retarded degenerate anime slop, right now
>>744689142for all we know there could be aliens gooning to our degenerate anime slop
>>744689059I'm tellin ya' these astral bodies act all high 'n mighty, but they are thirsty bitches and whores in their cores.
>>744684252>Wouldn't that create a naked singularity, that could potentially melt the laws of physics?The laws of physics are exactly what's stopping us from killing it. If the game can't be won, you change the rules.
>>744688746I was disappointed to see this is the result
I thought USAID was defunded, why are there still faggot Redditor ShariaBlue shills posting about semetic "basedence" on our board while our Sarah and Diana cg cunny threads keep getting deleted. Joons clean it up.
>>744689245>still no harem anime with celestial bodies as anime girls thirsting over an average late teen japanese guy
>>744688581>Hurr durr I'm a fucking retard who thinks material reality can account for itself. I believe in the absence of a deity to which I give all the traits of a deity
I wish mass effect didn't go to shit.
its extremely funny to me that people realized you can literally just be a contrarian about anything at all including scientific knowledge>if you didnt see it yourself you cant prove it happened>anyway here's all this schizo shit that i believe 100% which nobody on earth has actually seen or witnessed
>>744687408I don't like swallowing blackpills, but the one I've accepted is that the plebs can never overthrow the elites because they don't have it in them. The world order is slowly turning into more and more of a meritocracy, i.e. you're an elite because you have the means to get and keep power, and not some inbred retard who was born into it. The people at the top aren't so stupid anymore, and the ones at the bottom are getting stupider and stupider. Join them if you can't beat em.
>>744689519>Hurr durr I'm a fucking retard who mocks people's methodical research of reality's deepest mysteries while also believing an unknowable magic entity whose existence will never be proven just willed everything into existence and is the ultimate answer to every question
>>744680737I hate Aqua so much it's unreal
>even the closest star from the sun is 40 light years away >to get there in a reasonable time 6-1 year like the early sailing ships in the ocean to new lands did you'd have to travel at 100k times the speed of light or more to do it sorry but space and the amount of money spent on it is a fruitless endevor. that same money could've been spent to better our lives here, earth is the only home we have and will ever have and the sooner you accept that the better.
>>744680358Just wait 10^67 years. No biggie
>>744680358>It's coming towards usAre you brown?
>>744687001Thanks Atlas
>>744689356>I know more about the heckin universe than the aspies paid to study the universe because…..BECAUSE I PRAY SO SUPER HECKIN HARDIm stronger than you and I win the argument
>>744689763>even the closest star from the sun is 40 light years away???
>I don't like swallowing blackpills, but the one I've accepted is that the plebs can never overthrow the elites because they don't have it in them. The world order is slowly turning into more and more of a meritocracy, i.e. you're an elite because you have the means to get and keep power, and not some inbred retard who was born into it. The people at the top aren't so stupid anymore, and the ones at the bottom are getting stupider and stupider. Join them if you can't beat em.
>>744689059feels good man
>>744689763What do you mean? Don't you want your descendants to be sealed into a hopeless generation ship with no guarantee that they'll ever reach their distant destination?
>>744689665tribals have been eternally seething ever since the scientific method became popular so they can't just spin schizo shit and gooning stories as natural facts anymore.in other words we're using religion 2 with better U.I and gameplay mechanics and the ones being contrarian are nostalgic about religion 1 because of its early series quirks.
>>744689763>*sends another six trillion dollars to the circle jerking AInigs for their bubble pumping*Space is fake luddie
>>744689519>niggeloid can’t comprehend the concept of human reasoning brought about by evolutionary programmingall matter is static and your conclusion derives from the the fact that you cannot comprehend infinity
>>744689763proxima centauri is only a little over 4 light years away, close enough in astronomical terms that a crewed journey there could actually be feasible sometime this millenniumthe problem is there's nothing there worth sending humans tootherwise you're correct, mankind as we know it is stuck in this solar system, if somehow we ever make it to another habitable planet out there we won't be humans anymore, we'll be something newthing is we have an innate biological need to expand to new frontiers, and where we cannot physically travel to, we want to at least know about it. you can't stop this
>>744689831>a bunch of pedo-gnostic satanists making shit up to appease moloch is science because I want it to be because I'm the demiurge's top guyYou're a faggot redditor shill and anyone unironically spouting this niggershit was rightfully chased off the site in 2016, you take kike money to peddle satanic garbage on a videp game board like the golem fuck you are. Fuck off to /sci/ to lick your axewound over the fact nobody here is dumb enough to believe the scripts you post.
>>744680358If you close your eyes then it can't see you
744690060I didn't even read your post. I win the argument
>>744689843sorry i mean to say one of the closest star systems and specifically Gliese 12 but somehow my text got all messed up
>>744690027>ayys joyriding past this shitty planet run by peds while they cut across the void faster than the speed of light
Screw space and the oceans, I wanna know if there's any secrets in the mantle
>>744690206That's where the artemis fowl fairies live.
>>744689059time well spent
>>744690206>you will go to Agartha in your lifetime
>>744689763>first species to breach spacerev up the noah's ark dipshit, you're going to proliferate life out there one way or another and I don't want to hear any bitching before we find orange chicks to fuck once we speciate into 950 different humanoids on colony ships.
>>744690206Based
>>744683412>Pay attention that from outside the EH you'll never observe an object crossing it, it needs to get to infinite time.How is that possible when blackholes obviously get larger?Matter isn't just sitting infinitely at the event horizon, it is obviously passing the event horizon
>>744680358Throw Kanbei's tanks and artillery at it. He wins if he cranks out a single Md Tank
>>744680358Muv-Luv of course.
>>744690027see>>744690162dont get me wrong i love stargazing and think space, planets, galaxies, ect are amazing and certainly interesting things to think about and discuss. But the vast distances involved with everything just seems like it would be a waste when those resources could be used to make earth our home better, I mean it would if our ruling class wasnt gay aids but that's a whole other topic completely
>>744680358Like this. Choose a planet.
>>744690460It's a money lose and economically unfeasible to make earth better, so quit dreaming that commie dream.
>>744690206https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_low-shear-velocity_provincesThere’s this
>>744690534mars hard counters black holes because their immense gravity pulls all the spreadshot projectiles on target
>>744688683it's not a cope, we're going to prove it exists and then find ways of making it and that's going to lead to artificial gravity and faster than light travel via wormholes
>>744690598I don't think people realize just how big earth is anon, have humans had an impact sure but not on the scale people want to say
What if someone created a black hole cannon? Shooting black holes at enemy planets. That's the way you do it!
>>744690206Large Low-Shear-Velocity ProvincesAreas of the mantle with higher density than average. Possibly remnants of the planet that smashed into us to create the moon.
>>744689763This. NASAs 2 or 3 billion a year could be added to the trillions we're sending to Israel so we can finally build a McDonalds in Tehran or for us to invest in more swingers resorts in Jamaica or something
>>744690460on one hand I agree. from a purely objective and practical perspective, spending money, resources and time into studying deep space is fucking stupidon the other, I think we need things to wonder at. at the end of the day we're still dumb apes trying to figure things out, and we are curious creatures driven by a want to know more, to see what's beyond, to learn. we've learned so much about our own planet that now there's little else to look at but up at the stars>but muh ocean depthsstudying the oceans is a bitch because of this thing called pressure that is relentlessly obsessed with crushing anything you sent down there into dust. meanwhile pointing telescopes and antennas at space is easy
>general relativity mostly describes the macro universe>quantum mechanics mostly describe the micro universe>they make absolutely no sense together and have wildly different laws even though they exist in the same universehow do you reconcile relativity and quantum mechanics? why do the common sense laws of the universe break down when you go small enough?will it ever be understood?
>>744690716What's crazy is that the distribution of mass is enough to give the earth a third moment of inertia axis, and thus the tennis racket effect comes into play where a rotating object flips unexpectedly along the intermediate axis. It might have already happened in the past.>"Thus in the period of eleven thousand three hundred and forty years they said that there had arisen no god in human form; nor even before that time or afterwards among the remaining kings who arise in Egypt, did they report that anything of that kind had come to pass. In this time they said that the sun had moved four times from his accustomed place of rising, and where he now sets he had thence twice had his rising, and in the place from whence he now rises he had twice had his setting">Herodotus, recount of the testimony of the Priests of Ptah, An Account of Egypt
>>744691086terminal velocity is calculated differently past a certain threshold of surface area, big and small are just different i guess
>>744688440>Anyway, as long as you can pump enough negative matter or energy into the black hole, you would effectively erase itIn other words, if you have enough romanians you could steal enough matter from a black hole to the point it would stop being a black hole and would turn into a neutron star. Fascinating
>>744691086congrats anon you just arrived at the biggest question in science that every major mind in the world before you arrived at decades ago
>>744691086quantum mechanics is pseudo science that's basically "trust me bro"
>>744680358just skip the encounter
>>744680761there's no such thing as the edge of the universe, it's infinite and always has been. it's just becoming less dense with time.
>>744688440white holes will never be explained or proven because they are complete nonsenseblack holes are a crazy concept but you can logically see how the physics can get to such a conclusion, white holes are just dumb>it's an event horizon, but instead of you can't get out of, it's you can't get inall that mass and energy and spacetime a white hole is spitting out couldn't get in there to begin with
I just accepted the fact that we humans won't be able to travel outside of our Solar System ever.Unless aliens come here and share their technology with us, it's literally impossible.
>>744691094thank you I had been searching for this webm for a while
>>744690378>...from OUTSIDE the event horizon...Eventually, all the photon freed from the object crossing the event horizon will have reached their destination and you'll no longer see it.
>>744691306Whether the universe is finite or infinite is a dumb question because it's unprovable. The fact that there's a maximum speed in the universe means we have our own horizon and we will never see or know what's beyond it. It could be infinite, it could be finite, we will never be able to know, ever. Anything we can say about is purely speculation and really ends up being philosophical wondering about what "finite or infinite universe" means.
>>744691306It isn't infinite. There are more universes. We just won't ever be able to reach them.
>>744690534Neptune or Mars, they are definitely the best against a black hole
>>744690534spread shot is just about the stupidest possible shot in space
>>744691094>mediterraneum is horizontal and in a temperate clime zone in both phases>places where civilization is born happen to be in areas that don't change too much between phasesinteresting stuff, kinda wish we had a similar version with ice age earth
Ask the bully with a heart of gold Jupiter-chan. She's the tsundere guardian of the system she will do something about Sa*.
>>744691814>using point targeting across vast distanceslmao enjoy getting dodged, field weapons are the endpoint of spreadshot and they will dominate spacewar
>>744690534which option gives me battle moons?
>>744690027If the universe won't adjust itself for us, then we'll adjust the universe for ourselves.
>>744691920if you're shooting at something you know is not going to change orbit, then point targeting is 100% guaranteed to hit
>>744681138THERE ARE HOLES IN MY BELT
>>744691306infinite universe = infinite light = no nightpls don't reproduce, oh wait you have never touched a woman anyway.
>>744692170define adjusting the universeeven terraforming mars is absolute science fiction right now hell even just a sustainable moon colony lmao
>>744688649why is it flipping me off
>>744692305Breaking its physics for our own benefit, of course.Although someone might have already done it before us and we could be living in a broken universe as far as we know. The first one to invent time travel wins the civilizational race after all (yes, I know it's deemed impossible, no I don't think it actually is, we just haven't found a way yet).Or maybe it is all just an illusion created in a dead universe, but then it'd be even easier to break it.
Science is literally trannyshit, you're falling for the propaganda by even believing in space. Beyond the firmament is gods realm, and your delusions are giving you glimpses of hell. Fucking christ, you people are stupid.
>>744680358Pretty sure Maelle can handle this on her own
>>744691408Already happened, but the common folk aren't allowed to see it.One day if society collapses, scavengers may find a secret government base with a working spaceship with FTL travel, but that's the best we can ever hope for
>744693239I was about to call you a faggot, but the canonically retarded animu character pic convinced me.No (You) for (You)
>>744693062a serious discussion of time travel veers more into philosophy than into physics imothe way I see it the past doesn't exist anymore therefore it can't be "traveled" to. time moves in one direction and you can change the speed at which you move along it in that direction ("traveling" forward, to the future), but you can't move backwards across that line. it just doesn't make sense
>>744693331anime website you faggot
>>744693410>america was once inhabited by jungle people >jungle people country you faggot
>>744693062>Although someone might have already done it before us and we could be living in a broken universe as far as we know.So the rapid acceleration of dark energy expansion that started 5 billion years ago is actually just greedy ayys giving the universe the succ.
>>744693410>anime website you faggotCool
>>744693919lmao obsessed
>>744688561Of course it does. This site is built around morons saying retarded shit and feeling intelligent for doing so.
>>744693410Correct, anime, not garbage. Gundam is anime, not that shit.
>>744691232This.
>744693979Whatever you say, champ.
>>744680761>source: I multiplied numbers lol (cannot possibly even witness or comprehend this outside of data)
>>744681210I accept your concession that you just want to play intellectual one upmanship with space trivial
>>744683993right thats a good example of the post above yours literally flexxing the equations he has memorized and the one right beneath both proving me correct
>>744693239You say that, but you indian fucks flood our nations and take advantage of our medical science.
>>744680737They do but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjP214U2JmM
>>744680358>DOOM!
>>744680737>posts Aqua>is retardedIt adds up.
>>744687670if you track the intellectual field of dinosaur ddiscovery and research its not a progressive linear line of progress and evolving thought its just assumption built on assumption until someone makes a new paradigm and collapses the prior jenga pile of assumptions and then they circle back to agreeing with medieval thought or something of that nature its not how youre posing it like we just keep linearly progressing andd its self evident proof of an objective process unfolding
>>744680737>indian education
>>744694680Can you understand a 4 or 5 dimensional cube without doing calculations? No. It is a cognitive limit of the three dimensional brain.
>>744694929forced meme
>>744680358Make another one that pulls it away!
>>744690027I think we'll have trillions of people living in space before we see the first humans on Alpha Centauri worlds. Space colonization scales really fast once we have the infrastructure there. Once you enter Earth's orbit you're halfway to anywhere, as they say.Funnily enough I don't think the first people leaving for Alpha Centauri will get there first.
>>744680761>The edge of the universe, 13 billion light-years away,The "edge" of our observable universe is something like 46 billion lightyears, actually.> is the event horizon of a black hole.No, it's isn't. It is an event horizon yes, but not of a black hole. It's the horizon of our observable region of space, also called particle horizon.We are not inside a black hole.
>>744689763guys I want to fuck an ahsoka within our species' life span
Aren't the overwhelming majority of these things that are zillions of lightyears away moving away from us at several times over the speed of light due to hubble's law? Though...how do we see these mega redshifted things, then?
>>744689763What we probably should do is not to travel elsewhere but to prepare for being visited by far more advanced ayyliens.
>>744680358Overcharge it with equally infinite energy until it implodes.
>>744690534>the sunpower creep dlc
>>744695236Vibes
>>744690534Hehehehehehehehe......wave shot
>>744680358>How would you defeat it?by closing the iris and never dialling that shit again (until you need to trick some goa'uld)
>>744687652Hey, they didn't have videogames back then so staring at the sky was probably a hobby and had to yield some results eventually.
ftl will never be a thing so we'll never colonize other star systemstime travel to the past is impossibleaccept and make peace with the facts
>>744687652Do you expect an anon using anime reaction images to possess anything resembling human intelligence?
>>744680358If a Black Hole is made of stuff that breaks all physics and mathematics. Then maybe you could divide it by zero and defeat it? If that makes sense.
>>744689059The cosmos is our bitch, or at the very least it should be. Depicting them as 2D women is just our way of manifesting destiny.
>>744691094What's funny is that most of the weird bullshit geoglyphs you find can align with state 2 if they were tracking the apparent motion of the sun.Lots of funny antediluvian bullshit hidden everywhere in Saudi arabia/Jordan.
>>744695514Or trick the Space Jews who want to castrate you.
>>744695706explain dividing matter by zero
The Chinese government apparently claims that their medieval astronomers discovered the Galilean moons of Jupiter centuries before Galileo and the telescope, with the naked eye, but that sounds like bullshit to me.
>>744695236it's not that they are moving away, it's that space is expanding and it's carrying things away from us.
>>744689245What would be the cosmic, inter-planetary equivalent of "plap plap plap get pregnant get pregnant"?
>>744680737Please tell me you are the type of stupid that does the carnivore diet, doesn't get vaccinated, drinks raw milk.
>>744690534>joke weapon is secretly the most powerful in the gameBased devs
>>744695546What isn't impossible is entering the orbit of a supermassive black hole (to avoid tidal forces) that has already consumed its plasma (to avoid radiation) and jumping into the future thanks to gravitational time dilation. Depending on how close you get, the effect increases: for you, a year might pass, while 50 years pass for someone on Earth. It is the opposite of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber from DB
>>744695894You have matter, yes? Then you divide it up zero times. It's fairly straightforward, anon
>>744680358According to Pinky and the Brain, you have an idiot toss it out the window.
>>744680358>defeat itNah, Harness it
>>744688339>Exploring space is just looking up,No. You're looking at pictures and making claims about the pixels on them.If I read a NY travel guide do I get to claim I "explored" the city even though I've never been there?
I love it a lot that astronomy and cosmology are so difficult, if not outright impossible to employ in the service of any ideology in the modern world. They are as close as we will ever get to a truly free field of inquiry that exists for no reason besides pure knowledge of the world we exist in.
>>744693056It's the Finger of God.
>>744696545>I love it a lot that astronomy and cosmology are so difficult, if not outright impossible to employ in the service of any ideology in the modern world.This is one the stupidest most naive things that has ever been said on 4chan.
>>744689059this is, based on all observable evidence, the most sophisticated and intelligent behavior in all existence
>>744693239I would rather take Aqua's word over jewstein
>>744696545Also a lot of math, actually, often things are done simply for the pure thrill of being able to do it, and then over time someone finds an application for it, but it always starts from the joy of discovery
>>744680737>Black holes don't existAre you sure?
>>744688268>>744688576>>744689059>>744689245Ah yes, now I remember why I come back to this site
> A black hole is generally defined as a region of spacetime from which no information-carrying signals or objects can escape.[51] However, verifying an object as a black hole by this definition would require waiting for an infinite time and at an infinite distance from the black hole to verify that nothing has escaped, and thus cannot be used to identify a physical black hole.[52] Did NASA even read the Wikipedia article on Black Holes? Where's the evidence? Clearly there are no confirmed black holes in existence.
>>744696630Obviously there are politics involved on the institutional level, but there are none on the theoretical level. There is no left or right wing astrophysics.
>>744689763>>even the closest star from the sun is 40 light years awayits 4 light tears
>>744680358The scary part isn't the black hole. The scary part is >>744687173Eventually the black holes holding shit together will just disperse into the cosmic void, leaving everything still in motion but now untethered.
>>744696227you are supposed to cook the milk so microbes dierabies vaccine is a life saver but stuff life flu shots are meme and the recent scamdemic covid mrna shot straight up killed people by causing blood clots in their arteries while weakening their immune system and making them more susceptible to both covid and other viral diseasesa carnivore diet is stupid i agree. you don't need to eat meat all day to satisfy your protein needs.
>>744691358>white holes will never be explained or proven because they are complete nonsenseYes. Just like Negative energy/matter. They only exist mathematically. They are still valid answers because of the hypothetical though.Theoretically, you could also eject enough matter into a black hole at the correct angle to force it to dissolve the event horizon completely, leaving behind a naked singularity. This requires that a black hole itself is spinning though.
>>744697026A new big bang will just happen. Spacetime isn't stable enough to prevent it.
>>744689763Nasa actually designed a workable, buildable manned ship powered by nukes that could get to proxima centauri in about 50 years, although it would have cost several trillion dollars. It involved a 3 mile wide curved plate of ablation shielding on springs and a 1 megaton nuke going off every 30 seconds for 36 days to hit 10% light speed then 45 years of cruising and 5 years of magnetic sail braking. But it was entirely feasible from a design and construction standpoint.The British also designed a smaller unmanned probe that could hit about 30% light speed in 4 years using small nuclear payloads, but it involved a really complicated engine nozzle and couldn't be slowed down without turning it around and firing it backwards.If you can reliably manufacture antimatter using onboard nuclear/massive solar arrays for power you can hit about 80% light speed but that's not quite existing technology because we don't have shielding with a good enough resistance to weight ratio. But all these designs were from the late 60s and early 70s, so the first two aren't in any way "cutting edge" they're just incredibly expensive and involve getting a couple dozen thousand nuclear weapons into orbit which is somewhat risky.
Consider, could the world justifiably be called infinite? Doubtful. It may not have a dicsernable end,but it had a beginning. And its component parts definitely have a limited cosmological shelf life. Splitting hairs or not, if history tells us anything, its that scientists often make poor poets. We're all just a ship of fools chasing phantoms heedless to what really underwrites natural law.
>>744697302Exactly. That's how it happened before. There's no reason it wouldn't happen again. It's inevitable.
/V/GRANT ME YOUR POWER!!!
>>744694791Based
>>744690164They might have teenagers. They might be just as dumb as us.
>>744697356What sort of spacecraft is going to tank a nuke going off in its butt every 30 seconds for an entire month on end?
>>744696769yeah, they're pink
>>744697356>nukes
>>744697459An American one.
>>744691086Neither of them are actually correct they're just extremely accurate at the scales we use them forthis isn't even a controversial opinion it's basic fact. They both stop working at a certain scale and clearly aren't completely correct theories. They just happen to be really, really close to accurate where we apply them.
>>744697219>He cooks his milkbread eater! Bread eater!
>>744696227Is Carnivore the new Vegan? I've never heard anyone preach the carnivore diet like a vegan preaches the vegan diet. Most Carnivoreniggers I know are autistic dudebro types that only bring up the diet when the conversation switches to fitness.
>>744680737retard brownoid
>>744686442Your mom.
>>744693239>>744693331
>black holes steal everything and dont give it back>White holes give everything for free but are theoreticalGod.. The comedian
>>744698242where is white hole hitler to save us
>>744697941>Is Carnivore the new Vegan?What even is carnivore diet? eating only meat?
>>744698242Das rayciss...
>>744697616> dude the government carried out an elaborate decades long hoax to steal money instead of just stealing money like usual and also designing a bombthis is like the holigraphic planes and thermite people when it's a known fact the CIA gave al queda money and refused to deport the hijackers despite being told they'd come to the US
>>744680358kamehameha>but that'sFULL POWER!! HHGHGNRHAGAGAGAH!!!!>deletes black hole with my superb power
>>744697459a ship with a 3 mile wide ablative shield ob springs with a nuke going off 3 miles away in a vacuum with no air pressure wave being pushed by photons
I'll plug it up with my massive uncut stinky penis, which will prevent it from sucking up the rest of the universe
>>744698578Black holes are nothing when compared to latinx shonen autism.
>>744680358this ENTIRE fucking thread makes me just want to wrap myself in a blanket in a locked room and eat ice creamFUCK you guys I'm here for fun not for dreadFUCK I hate space so fucking much fucking space motherfucking space thank god I will die before we reach the final form of earth's welfare state that I'm jettisoned off in a spaceship in a cryo sleep tank to research black holes or some shit to earn my living. FUCK
>>744698773> zoomer losing his mind over literal, unmetaphorical, 100% genuine nothing
>>744698773I find myself pretty resistant to conceptual cosmic horror, but images of space have creeped me out ever since I was a child. Looking at the darkness of space gives me the same feeling of vertigo that looking down from a really high place does.
>>744698862I'm a boomie
>>744698773there's nothing up there but gas and rocks nonny
Reminder that Space Engine is an eldritch horror game and should be fucking banned.
>>744698773the real existential dread is the price of ice cream
>>744698902Same. I still don't know how I finished outer wilds. It's a testament to how good it is.>>744698971>there's nothingThat is what is so fucking scary about it. How can there be so much fucking nothing up there all around me when there is so much down here? What kind of sick fucking joke is this?
>>744698918> it's just a big lawn with no mexicans, hezikiah
I always thought it to be a weakness of cosmic horror that the actual shapes of the horrors are seemingly so inseparably tied to deep sea life on Earth. It's always an octopus, a weird nautilus thing, a jellyfish, etc.
>>744692282Why would light be infinite? Our light comes from the sun
>>744690247The oldest stories of little fairy people claim they came up from the ground through tunnels. The fairies seemed to have some very advanced knowledge, not just technology but also a comprehensive knowledge of the chemical compounds in all things plants or animals. There are similar legends even in ancient south america where they claim strange non-human intelligent beings would come up from the ground.
Only the simulation theory makes sense. All those galaxies? They're not rendered fully with details until you get close enough. Since we'll never get close enough you only need to see blurry pixels.
>>744699175In an infinite universe there would be infinite suns, is the thinking
>>744699087>How can there be so much fucking nothing up there all around me when there is so much down here?The natural state of the universe is nothing. It was nothing for an infinite amount of time, existing in a state our little monkey brains are simply unable to comprehend, now it exists, and in the future it will once again return to nothing. You have the pleasure of existing on a little lifeboat of something for the next 40-60 years, by accident or by design depending on your worldview, after which very little will matter to you for the rest of eternity.
>>744699240The fairies in the tunnels he dug under his house told Cray how to build the first supercomputer.
>>744684139Might as well be nothing because the black holes in the centre of galaxies aren't the things keeping galaxies together.
>>744699456Fuck off I'm the chosen one.
>>744680761Fun fact: Event Horizons can form anywhere there is enough matter in a small enough space, not just in near singularities.Second fun fact: The Mass of the Known Universe in the space the size of the Known Universe is enough to form an Event Horizon.
So what if you shot a microscopic black hole out of a black hole gun? Would it just rape everything in its path by violently pulling them in?Has vidya explored this idea?
>>744686248Here's how we know:Mass effects gravity. We know that Gravity can effect light.Therefore, enough mass in one space can effect light enough that it can't escape.Then you just look for anything "invisible" that aggressively bends nearby radio waves.Bam, black hole.
>>744699568It's okay nonny, Earth's only got about five billion years left before gets eaten by the Sun and every single person, place, and thing of note melts away into nothingness
>>744699930How can we speed that up?
>>744699930Humanity will never die. We are a miracle of the universe. We will win.
>>744699779Some professor investigated the potential organ damage of interacting with a micro black hole.The limiting size before it'll kill you is ~10^17 gramshttps://arxiv.org/pdf/2502.09734
>>744689059first contact>so you guys have been thinking about dicking black holes too?>yeah>basedthrough dick, unitysorry 40K
>>744699930More than enough time to be reborn as a dark lord and forcibly uncuck humanity or media.
