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>ruins your ludo
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>enhances your kino
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Tf2 should be scout only game.
Every other class is trash and unskilled
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>>746050278
I never see anyone use the direct hit
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>>746050393
>try to be funny and punch people as stock heavy
>scout just peppers you from distance
>soldier stun locks you by shooting rockets at your feet
>pyro just bullies into you a corner where you can't do shit
>demo does same as the soldier
>enemy heavy just uses gun like a normal person
>guess what, now they have 3 engineers instead of one, specifically because of you retard
>enemy medic switches from kritz to stock just to deny you any kills. Friendly medic ignores you entirely
>sniper now also uses piss so good luck lol
>spy either actually learns to be sneaky and keeps stabbing you or ludicrously learns to use his gun and guns you down
>your own team complains about you and blaming you for losing. Someone starts a votekick with 66% chance you will get kicked for being a retard.
Nice job "fun" having retard. We lost and you didn't even punch a single guy, do you call being in spawn 80% of the game fun?
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>>746050417
scout is a noob pick, he literally counters 8/9 classes
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>>746050441
It's good against ruining the fun of other rocket jumping soldiers and throwing off airblast spamming pyros.
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>>746052415
he counters demo that's about it
he is OP in 6v6 but that's because of open maps and the easy ability to pick fights in a structured setting
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>>746050393
I may die 40 times but the 1 single time I make someone laugh with holiday punch makes it all worth it. Shame people are so unfun, can't even give people a giggle before the match starts.
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>>746052765
nope, scout always has an edge on soldier, destroys pyro, destroys demo, always has an edge on heavy (especially with mad milk), gets countered by engi, destroys medic, destroys sniper, destroys spy
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>>746053036
>edge on soldier,
false, soldier has edge on scout
demo has edge on soldier
and scout has edge on demo
That's the triangle of the three best combat classes.
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>makes snipers seethe so hard it had to be nerfed beyond useless
I don't even need to post it
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>>746052309
You play Fist Heavy like Spy.
Is game of espionage and intrigue as you pretend to be friendly, spamming voice line and taunting, tossing enemy sandwich before punching their fucking lights out when they look away
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>>746053129
against 99% of soldiers (who almost exlusively aim at feet unless they are going for airshots) he literally just has to jump, splash damage AOE isn't as big as people think, and if the soldier is running something like the beggars, the air strike or the liberty launcher as their only actual weapons then youre not killing the scout
now for the other 1% who are retarded enough to always aim straight at the body (probably ego pushing them to do that), they need to be really good with their rockets or else it wont change much
if you're a soldier and not running the DH unironically the best you can do is pull out your shotgun and go for a hitscan battle
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>>746050441
because despite being one of the most busted weapons in the game, it's just difficult enough to filter out the shitters who won't learn to adjust how their aim
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>>746050278
That's not a sentry or a flamethrower.
>>746050417
>Every other class is trash and unskilled
Correct. Engi just sits on his fat ass and let his sentry do the work while pyro just need to hold W+M1 or shoot the scorch shot.
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>>746050441
its the third most common launcher from what I've seen ingame, stock being the first and jumper the second for some stupid reason
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>>746052309
Anon, you aren't targeted. You just encounter situations where you are in disadvantage as fist Heavy. Which is borderline every face-to-face situation except like Sniper with no ammo and Darwin or Spy with dead ringer off and no ammo.
And those situations are rare
>Scout plays around you
>Soldier just shoots you like always
>Pyro of course keeps you away like he would Demoman because she isn't a complete moron
>Heavy shoots you like all the other players close to you
>Engineer stacking is normal, and you are just frustrated you can't melee sentry to death
>Medic switches to stock because he feels like it or teammate asked
>Ally Medic doesn't wanna uber a meme hoovy
>Sniper uses Jarate because its busted unlock
>Spy sees the easiest Heavy kill of his life because what's more fun than melee locked slow class?
Anon you are doing this to yourself
>"But I want honorary Melee fight when I have biggest health pool and others have probably utility melees! Why are people shooting the poor hoovy trying to kill them!?"
You can have fun with fist only Heavy, but you cannot expect everyone to drop everything for you and pull out melee to die to your random crit. At least try to flank and catch someone off-guard.
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>>746053036
I would say it's the opposite
fresh install vs fresh install, loses to those classes, besides maybe spy.
100v100 hours scout, is still at a disadvantage
1000v1000 hours scout, now has the edge
and a 5000v5000 hour scout stomps
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>>746050441
Every direct hit soldier put their spec points into beggars so they can master the most overpowered launcher in the right hands.
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>play engineer
>try to build anything
>spy alternates between your spawn and tele exit sapping one or the other
>scout performs a series of gay acrobatics so your sentry cant focus on him
>solder equips the "no you dont get to play the game, 125 HP class" button
>uber rolls through
>demoman drunkenly rolls through
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>>746055774
Fuck the dinosaur!
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>>746050441
Because 95 percent of the players that play are bad
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>>746054980
I don't believe you. There's usually at least one black box shitter in every match I play
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>>746052309
>Guy describes getting the entire team to focus on him as a failure.
Holy shit the stock heavy meta is real you just need to drink carbon monoxide like this guy to access it.
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>Jetpack farts and kills you
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>>746050441
direct hit is the dedicated "It's one fucking sentry but my entire team is too braindead to shoot it and our 3 spies are doing nothing so I GUESS I'LL FUCKING DO IT MYSELF AS USUAL" weapon.
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>Gets nerfed into the ground for literally no reason
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>>746050441
i use it exclusively to fuck cheapshit scunts like>>746053689 up the ass
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>>746050278
>>746050441
No Soldier uses the Direct Hit for the same reason none of them use a Shotgun. It requires effort and skill beyond
>Shoot vaguely in the direction of anything that looks like the enemy color
The class is designed for shitters who want the maximum benefits for the least effort, so no shit none of them use the Direct Hit.
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>>746057338
Please do..
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>>746050393
>>746052309
>holding the line on defense, it isn't going well
>decide to whip out shotgun and go all in
>actually somehow don't die immediately, but run out of shots
>pulls out fists
>get several random crits off before I go down
>gives time for engies to repair
You can insult the stock fists all you want. But they are the only heavy melee with both damaging random crits and a taunt kill. So you better believe I'm going to use em when I can get away with it.
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>>746057749
what exactly is cheapshit about just playing scout
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I like stock. I like shooting around corners. It's fun for me.
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Why are most 4chan chuds soldier mains? Does Soldier attract alt right morons?
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>>746050278
fuck scouts
fuck snipers
fuck demoman
game would be a thousand times better without 'em
simple as
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>>746058471
really easy + rocket jumping is fun
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>>746058473
Tell me you main Soldier without telling me you main Soldier. Your ideal version of the game sounds like shit.
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>>746058471
Most tf2 players are soldier mains.
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For me it's the loose cannon and Natascha
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>>746058607
nope
most played hours are on engineer pyro and spy
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>>746058680
that isn't an improvement
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>play engi
>make nest in retarded position and wait for that one other retard to walk into it
>relocate
>do same thing
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>>746058673
>Demoknight eating my F2P teammates like free health kits
>Use Natascha against them and they suddenly dont just charge in whenever they want

It has to be done
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>>746057839
based
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>>746059091
It's one of the most satisfying things to do
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>>746058724
look, demoman can output literally 1552 hp worth of damage without having to reload once, from damn near any range outside of extreme sniper-tier shots, in aoes no less
no other class comes anywhere even CLOSE to that. the next runner up is soldier using direct hit in which case he can put out about 1100 hps worth of damage except half of that is in super close range with the shotgun and depends on every single pellet hitting with no dropoff. and NONE of this accounts for random crits either, which demoman is always going to have a much higher chance of due to the fact that your crit chance depends on how much damage you put out in a short amount of time, in which demoman effortlessly outclasses everyone. inb4 someone says hurrr heavy with brass beast; the problem with heavy with brass beast is A. it requires extreme close range and B. the spread guarantees that not every bullet is going to connect and its not aoe like 0 skill required pipes and stickies are, so no, if you take that into account, even heavy falls behind demoman in damage dealt before reloads.

demoman is extremely, extremely fucking overpowered and always has been and has needed major nerfs for over a decade, if not outright complete removal from the game. theres a reason why 6s runs 2 demoman every single time with zero variation.

scout is just an annoying buzzing fly that i personally hate fighting with. sniper i shouldnt even have to explain.
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>>746059091
>do this against a demo who mysteriously also always knows exactly when someone is around the corner
>he runs in
>i shoot
>for a half second i see the fear and disgust in his eyes, and it makes me fully erect
>he disappears
>apparently he bound to retry to rejoin the game and ensure I don't get the kill
i didn't even know people did that. how fucking petty can you get? i counted it as an emotional victory regardless
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>>746059252
*bound a key to retry
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>>746059252
Pretty sure ive run into a cheating demoknight before in medieval mode and not just cause they skullcutter crits on every kill. I wouldnt be surprised if people just wallhack as trolldier and demoknight.
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Friendly reminder (and fun fact), that as engineer, you can quickly place a teleporter and destroy it to give your team's demoknight a free charge. Just another way to be a team player as the quintessential support class.
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>>746059409
I will do no such thing. use your winbombs, retard.
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Seething about demoman is so corny
Seething about demoknights on the other hand...
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>>746059176
i don't disagree with your assessment on demoman necessarily but i'm viewing it through the filter of someone who plays something demoman counters and also demo is locked to one per team in 6s
i will fundamentally disagree with you as a person because you dislike scout and i like scout
that is all
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Fuck demoknights
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>>746058471
soldier is the primary combat class of the game and was designed to be easy and intuitive even by TF2 standards.
Valve would have done something very wrong for everyone to not play soldier.
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>>746059472
>>746059908
ask me how i know you ended up on the receiving end of a demoknight godlike compilation
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>>746060167
The seethe isn't really because of how good they are; it comes from your team being absolute shitters that fed the demoknight cow to be a monster.
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>>746060167
say that again but without throttled upload and a crit bucket BITCH
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>>746059747
>hes a scout player
youre the kind of person that i equip the direct hit for specifically reee scouts
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>>746060167
Every kunai spy showing off their godlike streak against a bunch of gibus snipers and heavies is so impressive too i know.
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there are almost no reasons to not equip the direct hit, it does more damage, it's easier to hit targets, it has minicrit airshots, it instakills light classes
ig in dustbowl and other chokey maps stock is better
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>>746060606
I sit in the corner of the map shooting charged cow mangler shots so i can have buff banner ready every 5 seconds.
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>>746053446
Ambassador's still powerful.
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>>746059252
People think that you can only cheat as sniper or something.
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>>746060606
the reason not to equip it is that if you suck at aiming youll do less than with stock
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>>746060928
it's really not. But it is the coolest spy gun and the double chainstab into 180 spin medic HS is too big of a dopamine boost to pass up on
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>>746060590
>Kunai godlike streak
Only ever happens if the team is absolutely full of literal troglodytes.
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>>746061112
It's better than stock revolver for everything except scouts.
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>>746058009
My favorite is when someone assumes I'm friendly until I'm punching them in the face, but by then it's too late for them to react, and if they're a soldier/demo they usually blow themselves up trying to fight back
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>>746058471
Playing soldier means nothing, it's ubiquitous. The better question is what secondary slot belongs to /v/.
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>>746061243
jarate
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>>746061187
Disagree. Stock is better in most situations
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>>746061196
Honestly it's kinda shocking how often demos just fold the second you close distance.i can't tell if dodging their pipes rattles them more. Or punching them one and watching them blow themselves up
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>>746061187
That would be the diamondback.

Except now its viable against scouts too even without the crits.
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>diamondback
New spies are too retarded to use their revolver and most Spy mains don't use it because they think it's gay and lame even though it's objectively the best.
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>BOING! DONK!
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>>746060869
>Cow mangler
>Bison
>Whip
>Bullshit Victorian chatbinds
Yup, it's gaming time
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Ambi is fun and that's all that matters after couple thousand hours
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>Huntsman + Carbine + Bushwhacka
>Either go on a rampage with bushwhacka crits or end the game with 0/15 and get so mad you swap back to normal sniper

Yup its gaming time
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>>746061416
For me it's explosive jumping at them with their own stickies. They never expect the Heavy running at them to do that
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>>746061243
I can't play soldier without the shotgun. I just feel naked without it.
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I just fucking hate scout so much.
>>746061827
Most demomen are retarded and have shit reaction times so they won't detonate on time.
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>>746060464
go ahead i fight at mid range
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>>746061836
>The one soldier using black box but with a shotgun
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>>746061967
You disgust me
learn2aim
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>>746062074
Most homosexual top 3 I've ever seen, I bet you like being fucked in the ass you sissy boy.
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>>746061967
Heavy is the main character
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>>746062146
This isn't real.
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>>746062176
You're right, there should be more hours but I was dumb enough to reset my stats at one point
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>>746062051
I only use that thing on weapon revert servers for defense. I just spam rockets way too liberally to use it. I don't see how 2010-me had fun babysitting the cart with blackbox and pre-buff battalions backup.
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>>746062114
Two of the three outright counters spy and the third has an item that blocks backstabs, how the fuck does that mean he likes getting fucked in the ass?
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>>746062257
I reset mine like with like 1500 hours according to math I wonder how'd it look if I hadn't.
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>>746062392
nta but i had around 3k hours and for some reason while drunk i thought resetting the timers would reset the achievements
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>>746061827
I think it's a betrayal of expectations. It's like how everyone used to assume a heavy running a shotgun was a fatscout. So then they'd be utterly baffled when they follow him and find a minigun revved in their faces. It's unfortunate that a few youtubers are now trying to sell how good shotgun is on heavy so now everyone knows better
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>Alarmingly high amount of F2P stock syringe gun medics just wandering around matches and getting gibbed
>Enemy team has the unusual crossbow god medic that never drops uber
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>>746062563
Shotgun was always good on him, it's just that he doesn't have a Lunchbox slot so why would you use it over a sandvich
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>>746055774
>random pyrotard happens to w+m1 in just the moment your sentry is upgrading
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>Valve finally game ban and community banned the taco bot MvM guys
>The github has MvM fixes like the bug with the timer

Do we think the update will actually happen soon cause valve is cleaning up loose ends?
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>>746062563
Lunchbox items are too good and pretty much obligatory unless your team somehow has 2 non-retarded medics that can heal each other.
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>>746063005
>the taco bot MvM guys
I had forgotten about those faggots, are they really dead for good?
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>>746059409
I didn't believe that was real when I first heard it
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>>746063135
their admin and members all got banned yes
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>>746063005
qrd on taco bot?
I know some people afk cheat in mvm (desu that never bothered me).
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>>746060167
I'm a pyrochad, a demoknigger has never even touched me
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>guy who did the more modern HD fempyro quit due to some retarded moralfaggotry
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>>746063387
MvM tryhards who will blacklist you if you aren't playing optimal to using the gaspasser. If you are on their literal shitlist they would votekick, harass, false report, and then self sabotage if those fail.
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>>746063906
Coomer modders are the biggest schizo drama queens on the internet
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>>746063906
This one?
https://gamebanana.com/mods/655465
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>>746063927
thats because even to this day MvM (at least mann up) is literally a gambling lootbox simulator that costs real money which is fucking insane to me
i will not buy a ticket
i will never buy a ticket
period
they could be literally 1 cent and i still would not buy a ticket
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>>746064059
https://gamebanana.com/mods/542647
Nah this. I’m in the camp that the basic corset fempyro is perfect and any attempts of fattening her up is stupid as shit. Also gonna draw/animate a fempyro later.
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>>746050441
because pubbers are low-skill and the DH requires them to aim
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>>746064248
>Also gonna draw/animate a fempyro later.
that explains why you are against the hotter version. No offense but most artists seem to be woke
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>>746058471
the only demographic i can think of that are not majority soldier mains are furfags who are obviously pyro mains
latinx also play a lot of pyro but that's just because they're stupid and bad at the game, not because they have any special reason for enjoying the class
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He won
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>>746064240
I will buy tickets if the update rebalances weapons, bots, etc not just for new maps/waves.

Id like pomson to penetrate targets in MvM if they wont allow it to in the base game.
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>>746064632
there is a grand total of three (3) people in valve on the tf2 team anon
absolutely nothing is happening to tf2 except for
A. keeping the hat store running for free income
B. importing fandom-slave made maps twice a year with the press of one button to make it pretend like theyre doing anything with the game
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>>746064396
subtle. good technique.
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>>746064725
We're literally getting an MvM update though. They even did 2 blog posts just to make sure people remember it exists which is very weird for valve standards. It might not even come out this year but we thought the final comic would never come either and it did.
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>>746052309
If you could fist your way out of every occasion it wouldn't be as special. It's special BECAUSE it works in certain circumstances, otherwise we'd just call it a rocket launcher.
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>>746052892
and it makes Zesty Jesus seethe, so all the better
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You are votekicking trannies from your lobbies right /v/?
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>Join a summer map in casual
>Round score is 0 to 3 and your team is the 0
>Top scoring enemy is like 100 points ahead of your top scoring teammate and theyre not medic or spy
>You have no medic and they do
>Requeue
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>>746058309
Nothing. I honestly don't get where these "Scout's the 1v1 god" claims come from. Never had a problem nuking him as Soldier or Heavy. Even with Demo they end up jumping directly into a pipe every single time.
Statistically he just ain't there. Against any other class of equal skill-level, he will die.
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>>746066849
>Against any other class of equal skill-level, he will die.
What does equal skill level mean?
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>>746066849
it's not about skill level, rather map dependent.
In 6s so highest skill level, scout is the dominant force. The maps tend to also be open.
Choky maps tend to make scout way harder to play
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HALP MEH
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>>746067057
I can see you coming are and my aim's good enough to hit you.
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>>746067192
>6s
>highest skill level
Literally going against the whole game design to create a repetitive and controlled experience based around a supposed META.
The most skilled players can dominate no matter the conditions.
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>>746067375
Skill is not purely aim.
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>>746066849
great way to out that you've never played against actually good scouts.
they're a fucking nightmare to try to kill, there's a reason that the TF team had to walk back a shitton of the weapons scout got because their only frame of reference was dogshit pub scouts that couldn't dodge or aim to save their lives, on maps like dustbowl.
my usual community servers before they closed down had a lot of monsters of scouts that you needed to a dedicated engineer or natascha heavy to force them to sit still and put down the cocaine.
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>>746066849
When you fight the 1 or 2 scouts in this game who never miss with the shortstop suddenly that changes the entire exchange same for the babyface but theyre a rarity these days.
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>that completely random person you've never met before who just knows to killbind as soon as your hands hit in a hi-five
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>>746067529
>Sniper able to instantly delete any class in sight when paired with aimbot
>Nearly every thread has some nigger screaming about how he's OP
Skill is ultimately a matter of aiming.
If you can both hit your opponents, then it's simply a matter of statistical advantage on who wins. Scout is by design lacking in that field, lacking health and is only able to have consistently high damage in close range where he's in danger the most.
Speed is irrelevant when my tracking is just as fast.
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>>746067537
I fought a god scout on dryfield and his movement was so good that not even loch n load or direct hit could touch him there was no fear at all. Then he was on my team and i healed him as medic and it was basically over the moment the point got capped.
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>>746067537
>nuh uh you just played against bad scouts
No, you're just bad at video games.
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>>746066849
Yeah he is, he can outstrafe and meat shot you down by flanking him. You wither no life and have godlike aim or are coping. A good scout that catches a soldier off guard is winning 90 percent of the time.
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>>746067864
>nuh uh they're not bad scouts
>they just jumped directly into my pipes every single time
they are by definition not good scouts, using your own fucking words
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>>746059091
I don't get fuckers who say a good Demoknight is impossible to kill
Most of the classes have a hard counter to him
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>>746066849
>Nothing. I honestly don't get where these "Scout's the 1v1 god" claims come from.
because scouts win 1v1 MGE tournaments where any class is playable, almost 100% of the time

i lol'd at "Never had a problem nuking him as heavy." good job, you can kill random 12yos in public servers who run into walls
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>>746062908
you see a guy like this and you just know the only thing more expensive than his loadout is his private cheats
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>>746057839
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thats some shonky business roight there
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>>746064248
>any attempts of fattening her up is stupid as shit
i disagree
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>>746068805
You can tell just by someones name, avatar and profile if theyre a closet cheater and its not even funny at this point. Steamhistory cant even catch all these guys cause not all of them cheat on community servers.
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>>746064248
>basic corset fempyro is perfect
Based.
>and any attempts of fattening her up is stupid as shit.
Eh. Give her a little bit of belly like Haydee and she's even better, IMO. The problem is modelers are stuck in the 2009 Oblivion body mod era of "just make the X axis wider" and it looks fucking stupid because they never edit the torso to match the tits and ass, plus the other mod linked changes the textures and all and it's really scuffed with the leg-heel-mesh stuff going on.
except for that one properly fat-with-fat-face fempyro model some twitter faggots made and hoarded
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>>746068805
no, cheaters almost never have expensive bps
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>>746067491
nig, b4nny and the other pros on 6s roflstomps any 12v12 lobby. 6s HAVE the highest skill players
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>>746069343
>INTENTIONAL DECISION.png
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Doubling piping the weasel scout main with a flick shot into KABOOOOOM taunt will never stop being glorious
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nigger weapon
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>>746069446
I'm GLAD that it happened
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>>746067987
That was a joke. My point is though that no matter how skilled a Scout may be, they go down way too easily and every single argument Scout players have relies entirely on their opponent being worse than them.
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>>746069706
I raise you
>double donking heavy into air and the double donking airshoting him to explode him
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>>746069854
Only a problem in casual.
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>>746066849
>I honestly don't get where these "Scout's the 1v1 god" claims come from
On paper it's a very unfair matchup for soldier and demo since he can hitscan you to death from a range where he has plenty of time to react dodge your projectiles. Shotty soldier isn't a good answer either the downsides easily outweigh the upsides of a better scout matchup. He has the best air strafes of any class and being able to get to high ground for free scout is oppressive with any height advantage. As for the other classes pyro is scout food since a disciplined scout will never enter flame range to begin with and heavy gets run over the moment he revs down within earshot of a scout. The three things that keep scout in check are
>engie vs scout is one of the most one sided matchups in the game
>scout can't put out enough damage on his own to outpace a skilled medic
>he struggles in teamfights/larger playercounts for obvious reasons
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>>746069919
well I raise you
>missing every single pipe while flailing around like a retard, then killing the scout with stickies that you definitely didn't forget you set already
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>>746068698
>because scouts win 1v1 MGE tournaments where any class is playable, almost 100% of the time
Bro what the hell are you talking about.
There was MGE world championship this year and last and scout mains never won. IT was soldier/demo mains
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>>746062908
>Wearing an unusual
>Couldn't afford a strange rifle in a decent grade
This is like that nigga with the broken gucci backpack.
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>>746057465
I sometimes wonder if I'm clever or just think I'm clever and then I realise nobody else is using the direct hit or huntsman to kill the Lvl3 in the open.
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Average scout main will shoot at you across the map and then finish you off while moving like a retard
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>>746069919
I can't into the loose cannon, I'm too used to the range of pipes but I like fucking around with it every now and again.
When theres an enemy who knows what they're doing with it it's fucking oppressive trying to push forward kek
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>>746066849
Amazing how asshurt Scout mains are.
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>>746070112
Just use it until you get used to it. It's a cancer weapon that actually takes skill.
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>>746050278
That's a funny picture of a razorback
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>>746060928
The headshot feels more like a random crit than skill.
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>>746070037
It was probably an unbox
>t. never boughted an unusual paint
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>>746070112
It's pretty comfy once you get used to it
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>>746070112
it's the shitter's 'I keep dying to a heavy' unlock. just stand at max range and spam into a choke like you're using huntsman.
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>>746070226
wtf is that knockback lmao
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sex with pyros
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>>746070276
You suck
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>>746070339
If you need loose cannon to win a fight that stock demo is already good at you're dogshit.
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>>746055774
>be heavy
>see tele set up behind the big doors on citadel
>go to the roof
>hop down the side
>engi is setting up Lvl3 sentry
>rev up and destroy the sentry
>kill the engi
>kill a demo, sniper, and soldier who don't notice me before they're dead
>destroy the tele
>laugh taunt
>feelsgoodman
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Why do you get pushed away from other players at high ping? Is it an interp thing or just being an american on european servers thing?
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Loose canon is a kino weapon.
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>>746050393
POW! HAHA!
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>>746070504
>funny
>unique
>highest highs
>coolest sound in game
yea i'm thinking it's based
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>>746070442
it's not exclusive to high ping. by default if you stand in a teammate's hitbox you push them away and it's really annoying.
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>>746070504
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>>746050441
Because its bad for rocket jumping. That simple. You get good enough at rocketjumping you can take out any class except the scout. You just gotta spray you dont end up in a 1v1 with those things.
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>luv Liberty Launcher
>luv Scottish Resistance
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>join a random 24/7 server
>sentries disabled because trolldiers or some such nonsence
>inevitably leads to 4+ unchecked scunts who think they're king shit
>go natascha heavy
>bask in the salt in chat
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>>746069917
yeah no shit, he's a glass cannon. That's by design
good scouts, and I mean actual good fucking scouts, are terrifying even at the toppest level of FPS skill purely because his kit and his free mobility tools give him a huge advantage against his 2 most common opponents: soldier and demoman. it doesn't matter how much damage your weapons do if you can't actually touch him.
real game scenarios aren't just 1v1 skirmishes, but scout excels when he can isolate for a 1v1 due to his cost-free mobility, high hitscan damage, and lack of self-damage. in the real game, you're going to have chokes, you're going to have teammates, you're going to have overheals, you're going to have a whole lot fucking more going on than just 1v1s. But just as scout excels at finding 1v1s with his speed, his damage being hitscan is what tends to secure a lot of kills. it's like the way soldier is designed: explosions for damage, shotgun for finishers. Except instead it's spread across multiple players, calling out damage can be enough for a scout to make a dive to kill an important class like medic or demoman. This is the kind of shit that's basically impossible without active comms so you won't see it in pubs, but scouts that know how to capitalize on this just eat people if they decide that they want to pubstomp while warming up for a scrim or something.
in order to actually hit someone like this, you basically need to splash them with explosives, click on them with hitscan, or outplay the fuck out of them to land a sick-ass airshot. They're not going to lazily magnetize into your projectile.
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Hudda hmph, hudda, hudda, and hmph!
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>>746070984
Oral, anal, pussy, and bellyzuri? Hell yeah.
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>>746069917
>no matter how skilled a Scout may be, they go down way too easily
They are the strongest 1v1 class. So the only counter is to run to your team for backup. They do their job perfectly. Scout and pick enemies off. If you are playing casual its fine but 6v6 has to be played around him
Youre like the people who cry spy is too weak when good spies can clear a casual server.
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>>746070912
>join Hightower 24/7 NO CAPPING
>Natascha cart heavy and cap
>leave when the shitnuggets start to reeeee
Do that like twice a week
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demo primary tierlist:

king shit:
stock
loose cannon

for noobs:
iron bomber

meme tier:
the rest
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>>746071480
>for noobs:
>iron bomber
The hitbox bug was fixed and no one uses it anymore. It sucks.
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>>746071549
it still gets used due to the more-consistent rollers and shorter fuse time, for landing directs it's identical to stock, but it has use for controlled spamming and for grenade jumping.
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>>746071703
I got so used to being able to drop them straight down off a wall, that I forgot how clutch the stock bounce can be.
They both have their uses imo
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>>746071480
*uses Booties with stickyspam*
Fuck pipes
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Fuck now I wanna play. PSU took a crap and I can't get it to boot on a linux toaster
https://streamable.com/8bfiig
>>746072965
pipes and shield > booties and stickies
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>>746073638
maybe if you turned off your unusuals you wouldn't have to render that much
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>>746070145
which of those replies suggested asshurt
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>>746070504
loser canon
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I watched Uncle Redditane and use shotgun a lot.
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Nigga is like
>let's do gay little stair jumps around noobs for 13000 hours
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I like to play gibus pyro and rape people with crit flare combos
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>>746058658
How do you fix Heavy? Create a fun subclass for everyone to waste their time with?
Most games are just w+m1 and running mindlessly at the front, which is critical to and can win any game
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>>746074345
I enjoy shoving my minigun up your stupid mute ass, freak.
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>>746064248
Good taste, anon.
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>>746074315
is stabbystabby the spy main who will rage quit servers if he cannot farm or is that a different spy main with a youtube channel?
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>>746066646
>join pub
>top scoring teammate is a support class with 1/3rd the points as the other team
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>>746074687
That's all of them anon
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>>746074687
all spies do that
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>>746074473
>Lunchbox slot so Heavy can take a secondary and a food item
>Remove the damage penalty from being freshly spun up so you do normal damage the second you're able to start firing
Some weapons need changes, but this would already make him feel a lot better.
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>>746050393
Why not run the fun version of this which is the boxing gloves
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>>746050417
Scout mains are insufferable, in the EXACT same way, in every game that has scouts.
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>>746053129
Heavy still dominates any of them, and somehow demands team coordination to take down. People keep seeing how slow and practical (not flashy) heavy is, and then neglect how much firepower and health he has, while also letting spy and sniper (the most hated classes) take care of the heavy for them.
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>>746074985
?
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>>746061562
I swear to god this webm used to be on the 2fort battlements.
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>Holiday Punch someone from behind
>They kill bind before I can even taunt

What sort of faggot does this?
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>>746066849
Scout is fast and agile enough that he usually gets to choose when the fight happens. You have to drop your guard against him, eventually.
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>>746050441
>direct hit + mini crit = death
heavy medic pockets fear me
soldiers and demos shit out guaranteed crits just to even touch me
air blasting pyros eager to challenge me
the spy keeps stabbing me
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>>746069925
>>746069854
You should be more angry at your teammates for feeding him backstabs.
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>>746071218
You're the reason private servers are dead.
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>>746075603
WTF HOW DID YOU DO THAT?!?!?
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>>746070504
charging into someone and exploding on impact feels amazing every single time
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>>746075603
Next time when you get a laugh, rev up the Huo-Long and watch your victim burn to death
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>>746070948
Literally just hit him twice an he's dead. Your argument relies entirely upon the Scout's opponent being a dumbass. Your mouse can aim faster than he moves.

>>746071180
>They are the strongest 1v1 class. So the only counter is to run to your team for backup.
lol
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Class and weapon discussion is pointless, I can stomp every lobby with any loadout
>t. 2500 hour chad
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>Playing Heavy on 2fort
>Push into enemy fort with ease
>Killing all 3 people defending
>Where is everyone?
>Find the rest of them in courtyard fucking about
>Join in to check loadouts
>Scunt from earlier comes back for revenge
>Runs right up to me and meatshots me
>Turn and crit holiday punch
>Pootis POW
>Eat sandviche while enemy team laughs
>This happens 3 more times
>The scunt goes demoknigger
>Charges around corner and crits me
>Land a punch on him, then a crit
>No laugh stun
>Fucker is spamming jump to avoid it
>Gun him down with the Tomislav
>and again
>and again
Some fuckers pick up grudges for free.
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>>746074473
He's strong enought no need to fix
If mowing down everyone while laughing is too boring than you should kill yourself
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are official servers still infested by cheat bots?
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>>746077806
No. Although very rarely, on a moonless night, i'll find a gang of sniper bots suddenly join a near empty CTF server. Gone without a trace by dawn's light.
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>>746074473
Remove the damage vulnerability from Steak Sandvich to make melee heavy slightly more viable
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>>746078027
cool. i wonder if those cheaters got bored of it after valve banned them all
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>>746057307
>die
>45 years of respawn time
>team crumbles as the numbers game slowly builds in the enemy's favor from this
>but the 3s they spent killing me is worth it
Yeah sure. About the level of intelligence I expect from tf2tards
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>>746074821
instant quit and re-queue for me when that happens
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>>746079567
so your argument is basically they should be equipping the fists of steel to turn that 3s into 6s-9s
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>>746057495
i still don't understand why they do that
it's already not good weapon, and now bad GRU
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>>746080467
Valve was on some shit two weapon change rounds ago
Never forget "the penetrative laser of the Righteous Bison is a bug, we fixed it!"
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always use this
because funny and can stop uber
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>>746080682
This one has a genuine use though, it's like the only other way (outside of playing pyro) you can neutralize an uber. It's very rare for this to happen but, you know, it can happen
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>>746077481
How do you stomp with FaN in Dustbowl?
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>>746059091
For me it's raping those faggots with the FaN
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>>746050278
Most fun Soldier primary award
Scout annihilator award
Only soldier weapon that can do anything against snipers award
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>>746059031
hi please no posts of pedo larpers here thanks
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>>746057495
I hate them so much for this, gru used to be so fun and I don't think anyone was seriously complaining about them. If you actually wanted to win fists of steel and gre were much more useful
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>>746058471
>why are unskilled retards playing the no-skill class?
Truly a mystery
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>>746060167
I raped your demoknight-maining jewtube grifter hero btw
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>>746064628
His sad face really sells it
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Update when... it's been a decade...
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>>746059409
What?
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>>746074687
That doesn't narrow it down to any specific one
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>>746050278
>3 warning shots
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Vaccinator nerf when
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>>746052309
If you played normal heavy (tomislav) and instead whipped out your fists for funny kills on unaware enemies you'd have fun.
Don't be one of those insufferable assholes who play like shit on purpose and complain that it isn't viable.
I had one such retards in a team once I was a medic and it's so disappointing when you think you're gonna have a heavy instead nope it's mister epic gimmick running at people with the KGBs over and over while also complaining in chat that he doesn't wanna get healed because ?????? Like good job you're not having fun (as per his complains about not being good enough in chat) and we have to deal with a dead weight
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>>746059091
>>746059252
>spin natasha up
>demoknights pyros and scouts run for the hills
Love how tf2 has psychological warfare.
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Buff the Short Circuit, make the balls destroy all of a Soldier's rocket ammo if he gets hit by one.
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>>746070226
>shoot acme cartoon bombs at people
Once I got the range down it became my favorite demo primary one hitting a scout with a double donk never gets old.
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>>746050278
My favorite thing to instantly delete fucking annoying snipers and scouts with when I'm not playing sniper or scout.
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>>746058471
>Why are most 4chan chuds soldier mains? Does Soldier attract alt right morons?
This American is speaking like a bird brain instead of actual English.
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Why did they even bother giving this thing a shove? They had to animate it, code it, test it, all to implement the most pointless alt-fire in the entire game. It takes like a whole second for the animation to play out, you have to be stupidly close to your target and it doesn't even send them that far. You can try to delay an uber push with it, but you're gonna be far less effective than a Pyro, and also you're a Scout, you're better off running away to go after someone else than killling yourself to delay a push by 0.2 second. Only real use is shoving someone off the map, and they have to be really close to the edge + you need to get the jump on them, and even then if they're a squishy you're better off just shooting at them.
The weapon isn't even bad, I'd go so far as to say it's really good having a bit of range as Scout, but it's so odd they reworked it to have this completely useless alt-fire.
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>>746066849
Scout is nice in some maps where you can play him like a spy, by backstabbing clueless noobs lost in map using flanks. Against real players who stick together or in more choke spammy maps with sentries and stuff he is useless.
6s again forces the scout/soldier meta with class limits and weapons bans but make no mistake. Heavy and demo are the real strongest combat classes in the game.
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>>746088901
You can do well with any class in pub, only Medic stand above the others and maybe engineer (depending on the gamemode)
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>>746088507
Donking people is so fun, I have a hard time switching back to pipes after messing around with the weapon so much. Really good if you want to go hybrid Demoknight too since "pipe jumping" with it is really easy, and it's the best primary against Pyro and Heavy
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>>746089225
This confirms that Zhanna, miss Pauline and Saxton Hales will be playable in Team Fortress 3
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>>746089225
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>>746089286
Out of all the gimmick sidegrades loose cannon came easiest to me, I just know exactly how long to charge and how to lead my shot for some reason.
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>>746050278
As someone newer to the game, my opinion is that more emotes need to be made stock.
It makes sense for goofy stuff like dances and vehicles to be special, but the ability to laugh everyone should have.



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