Im tired of pretending it isn't better than deus ex
>>746520165not with that dogshit combat it isn't
It's suffering from the thing most old games suffer, a lot of them feel janky. Not all old games are like that though.
Do people really not find it pathetic to see a game come out, it's complete trash, a buggy mess with hideous graphics and beyond boring combat, but years later some tranny youtuber says "A-actually, it's a cult classic and a hidden gem" and now everyone thinks VTMB 2, a flop, hated like crazy on release and extremely political to the point multiple dialogues talk about murdering republicans, is the second coming of christ?
Why couldn't they do it again? All you need to do is get some decent writers, a couple of talented voice actors and a coupe of half competent programmers. With today's technology, it should have been easy
>>746521258Fuck off zoomer
>comparing two completely dissimilar games???????
>>746521510There are no decent writers interested in the IP and the current technology is a literal detriment to quality.
>>746521258It was a cult classic. It was a great game. I never heard anyone say anything good about VTMB2, let alone people heaping praise on it. I haven't even played it, tbch. But VTMB I will stand behind as a great game, though undeniably janky and unfinished as hell.
>>746520165Not with that utter dogshit finale
>>746520165Deus Ex is much more solid the whole way through. Bloodlines pretty much craps out past Hollywood, though I personally liked the Giovanni Mansion. It becomes too combat focused and you start feeling less freedom in regards to how you solve things.I would hope Eternal Whispers is good, since I thought a Disco Elysium approach to the setting would be very good, but the dialogue in that game is lacking the penache of DE's writing.
>>746520495ah yes, deus ex.... the peak of combat video games
>>746522324it's a stealth game, it's supposed to be bad
>>746520495uuuuugh
>>746520165It's really not that great, charming but supremely janky game.
>>746520165invisible war > vtmb > deus ex 1
I wish there was a modpack to add more non combat encounters and solutions to encounters that are already there past the early phases of the game, that would've been rad.Honestly it's not even just what the game does right, but old VtM the tabletop version is already extremely combat averse too. It's designed from the ground up so you don't fight and if you do everything is over in a couple turns at best.
>>746521510>get some decent writersThat's the fucking hardest part. If even Rockstar is struggling these days with awful dialogue, where the fuck do you find them in the first place?
>>746522924At 4chan.
you're also probably like 40 or 50 years old
>>746522834I actually liked the idea of Bloodlines 2 having no weapons, but rather environmental pickups because I was hoping they would focus on combat being extremely quick and visceral but instead it was just very generic action slop and they backtracked quickly. A lot of people hype it up by I don't like high level VTM shenanigans. I liked the way the werewolf was set up since it was about using your surroundings to survive or kill a superior enemy but stuff like the Ming Xiao fight or The Sheriff were dogshit.
>>746520165They're both great games, but VTMB is a buggy mess that has it gameplay go downhill during the china town section. That's something I'm not afraid to admit. Calling it better than Deus Ex is a bit of a stretch. That's like saying someone with a cool wheelchair is faster than a track athlete. >>746521258>now everyone thinks VTMB 2, a flop, hated like crazy on release and extremely political to the point multiple dialogues talk about murdering republicans, is the second coming of christ?What alternate reality you just fucking came from? The only one """"praising"""" that garbage sequel were shills. Everyone and their mother were calling out the dumbest actions that Paradox chose when developing the game. It had no right to being called Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines 2 >>746521510I truly think the people who made the game didn't have any personal connection to the original. Not even the slightest interest in making a 1:1 sequel. All they had to do was take notes on why everyone thought a buggy mess could be considered a cult classic. They didn't care about how dialogue was used, the atmosphere, mechanics, tone, characters, or how unique it was as an RPG. They were more interested with having Mankind Divided but with vampires than turning a tabletop game into a first person RPG.
>>746523256>>746521904You guys are retarded and prove you didn't play VTMB at all lmao. Because the kill republicans comments is in it.
>>746523401Okay? What's wrong with that?
>>746521690I am born in 2007 and I played through the entirety of VTMB and loved it
>>746523447> ree veilguard is woke becuase it has a non binary qunari! reeeVTMB: Kill president bush, kill all republicans! REPUBLICANS ARE THE DEVIL!> t-this is not woke becuase uhhh wokeness didn't start to exist until i got radicalized in 2020!
Alright anons I need suggestions for more games with this vibe please
>>746523530Correct. I'm glad we could clear this up.
>>746523829There aren't any. That's part of why it's a cult classic. Nothing else has ever captured that unique feeling of supernatural atmosphere, urban decay, goth punk, criminal underworld and hot babes.
>>746523829psychotoxic
>>746523530>>746523401You're being a schizophrenic poltard, but I know the game made fun of republicans once by letting your character admit to voting for them as a sin. But that was the original game.I never played, nor will ever in a lifetime, play the "sequel" because it's shit. It even have one of the protagonist trash talk about the "Don't take estrogen if male" item description.
>>746524010>It even have one of the protagonist trash talk about the "Don't take estrogen if male" item description.That never happens. Are you ok? Making fanfics now?
>>746524173It's there. Plenty of screenshots were posted about it when the game came out.
>>746524830> Plenty of screenshots were postedMay I see one? :)
>>746525117https://youtu.be/QNXjU4dfU3c?si=-I0ps4y6kVAd28zG&t=776Read and weep
>>746525563You win this time...
What am I in for?
>>746525697Beyond retarded ally AI
>>746525697Your balls against a wall.
>>746522604kino
