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Sophie's game may suck, but at least it gave us one of the best tracks in the entire series and Plachta's ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NujQWs_DiyI
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Hey, Atelier Sophie does not suck, I like it and it is better than Atelier Firis.
I knew that the music was going to be Thistle Lotus before clicking the link, also, the OP is kind of funny because of the hidden text.
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>>748180189
Plachta's original body and design not counting her form as a book...mild suggestive themes indeed.
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Looking at the lack of activity, maybe Plachta is less popular than other characters.
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Why does Sophie like Plachta so much?
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>>748182728
You tell us. I'd say that it's partially her personality, maybe even her voice...I like Plachta's calm voice in English.
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>>748180189
Not as good as ar tonelico music gust should completely drop Atelier and reboot ar tonelico.
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>>748180460
>it is better than Atelier Firis.
Firis was a big step up from Sophie in my opinion.
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>>748180189
>>748182019
Plachta's design was kind of hated actually, it's extremely out of place. This shy and reserved character is dressed in lingerie with her ass hanging out because uhhh why?

There were two artists working on the Mysterious series, NOCO (the good one) and Yuugen (responsible for the coomer designs like Plachta and Lydie). Yuugen is generally disliked in the fandom.
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>>748187050
There are other fanservice designs in Atelier like Drossel, Marlone and even Escha to an extent, but I won't deny that if one considers Plachta's personality, her design when she's in that body is out of place and it's easy to consider it a bad design.
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>>748187050
yuugen's art is messy as hell compared to NOCO's
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>>748187050
>This shy and reserved character is dressed in lingerie with her ass hanging out because
iirc her body (and clothes?) was designed by an ultra perverted doll maker
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>>748187849
The clothes were designed by Leon, the same clothier that makes Sophie's second outfit (see pic), which is nowhere as ridiculous as Plachta's, because it was designed by NOCO not Yuugen.
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>>748187050
I don't like that your post implies that Yuugen is disliked for making sexually provocative designs and not because his designs are just plain fucking awful.
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>>748188507
Sophie was designed by NOCO according to the back of the box.
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>>748188081
>>748188595
Sophie's alt outfit was Yuugen's design, as opposed to her default outfit being NOCO's design.
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>>748188617
Huh, the back of the box just says ''Illustrator NOCO'' and they use her second design but somehow that's believable...it really is a loaded or weird design compared to the clothes she initially wears.
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>>748188617
Are you sure? The CG"s with this outfit are clearly drawn by NOCO. They don't have Yuugen's signature messy linework.
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>>748188732
Who knows and I'm not sure either, what I can say for sure is that the back of the box gives the idea that Plachta was designed or illustrated by Yuugen and Sophie (in general) designed or illustrated by NOCO.
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>>748182728
She smells like mothballs like Sophie's grandmother.
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>>748186471
Firis was the only good game in the Mysterious trilogy. It had a lot of nice "need to invent something to destroy a roadblock" events that added nicely to the story.
Lydie and Suelle, I don't know what they were thinking, except "We don't want to come up with any new characters."
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I bought Ayesha today as my first Atelier game, haven't started it yet
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>>748189036
I liked the mysterious twin cunny. Sophie was pretty good too.
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>>748188732
I'm pretty sure I saw an interview about it back when the game was new, but hell if I can find it again now. Even the fucking art book doesn't specify who drew what in most cases.
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>>748189106
That one's good. Keithgriff is based.
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>>748189167
Sophie DX comes with the digital artbook, take a look, I'm too lazy to reinstall the game.

Also, look at this CG, the left side is clearly drawn by NOCO while the right side with Plachta is unmistakably Yuugen, so I think that's her design?
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>>748180460
>I knew that the music was going to be Thistle Lotus before clicking the link,
I thought it was going to be this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39XVhmBs95s
So happy and cheery and catchy. If I understood Japanese I'm sure it'd be even more of a earworm.
I agree with the talk of Plachta's outfit not really matching her. It's ridiculously and sexy and everything, but it's gacha tier to just throw this stuff on anyone without considering personality and atmosphere. Stuff needs to be thematic.
I could see it on a couple of the other characters, though.
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>>748189036
>Lydie and Suelle, I don't know what they were thinking, except "We don't want to come up with any new characters."
L&S is often considered to be the best game in the series, though tied with Sophie 2 nowadays. Some of the best combat and alchemy, and a very meaty post-game (like 7 unique post-game areas with a dozen of super bosses) where all the crazy items you can make actually matter.

The excessive comedy and bratty MC's might not gel with some players though, it's a hate it or love it thing. But I liked them.
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>>748189350
>If I understood Japanese I'm sure it'd be even more of a earworm.
There's a translation on the wiki.
https://atelier.wiki.gg/wiki/Doll_Make_Song
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>>748189292
>Sophie DX comes with the digital artbook, take a look, I'm too lazy to reinstall the game.
I don't have DX.
There's this part of the full art book where Yuugen guesses that NOCO's original concept of Sophie ended up being closer to her "transformation", so I guess it was NOCO after all?
Damn, I might've been blaming the wrong person for that ugly design all these years.
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>>748190014
Thanks, I've kind of wondered about this for a while.
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>>748180189
>sophie
Worst cast in the series.
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>>748190152
Are you sure it isn't Ryza?
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Kind of crazy that NOCO was only 23 years old when she worked on Sophie 1, that game kickstarted her whole career.
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>>748190152
Worst main cast maybe, but it's got Tessa, Fritzl, Harold, and Corneria for good side characters.

>>748190192
On the other hand Ryza has Empel as an incredibly strong main cast member while everyone else is boring and one-dimensional as shit. So yeah, I'd go with Ryza.
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I love Rurutia so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8WDhOb5AIs
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>>748190192
>Are you sure it isn't Ryza?
Nah I hate Oscar, Monika, Julio and Fritz. But Corneria and Harol are great.
Ryza only has Lent and Tao being boring as shit but Empel is great.
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>>748190585
>Ryza only has Lent and Tao being boring as shit
And Klaudia
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIEjKX4lY4o
Asano Hayato had a generational run from Shallie through to Blue Reflection 2 and then he's done almost nothing for the five years since.
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>>748190704
He's doing freelance now. I appreciate his contribution but it's not like modern Ateliers music is any worse.
I hope he got his gf.
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>>748190192
It's definitely Ryza. Ryza on her own isn't enough to make up for everyone else. Layla's giant knockers also don't quite close the gap.
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>>748190916
Imagine if he put Lucifer on the violin instead.
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Is it just me who liked all the epic boss tracks? Don't see anyone mentioning them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_t1OFGS1YQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq8cDA9UKrM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7B8XGQPdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBZTMJjo0Xk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fav-KHW8Qg

Pororoca (the last link) is especially good, listened to it for days when I first encountered it in-game.
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>>748190704
Other Asano tracks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmpmnLjIa6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGbgAeJyFes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuZwabmRJo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_99yAOEykB0

Hearing Red Light on the promo page for Shallie is what made me decide to check out the series again after only playing the Iris games back in the day and not liking them.
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>>748190639
The gay ojou-sama friend should be the easiest character to make fun or interesting, but Klaudia failed.
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>>748191974
These three are all tsunderes. Klaudia is just nothingdere.
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>>748191372
It's not just you.
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A bit surprising that this image wasn't posted yet.
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for me its https://youtube.com/watch?v=SGGrAEtGhSc
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>>748191930
>>748194309
Spicy Plachta art. Wow.
>>748194542
Not bad.
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>>748193571
can't wait to accidentally walk in on Sophie while she's changing once her AI is released.
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Is there any excitement for the new game? I haven't seen much talk about it.
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>>748195420
Fans don't care anymore because lumia was such a slop.
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>>748195420
Like previous Atelier games Atelier Karia won't have English voices, so, I don't plan to play it.
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>>748195420
I'm buying it because it panders to my fetish.
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>>748195420
/r/atelier is trying to hype themselves, but I don't care about another Ubisoft Atelier where no gameplay mechanic matters and you're just chasing map icons.
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>>748195419
Oh, okay.
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>>748182728
i literally see the rim of her asshole
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>>748191939
Shallie's OST is insanely good
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>>748190192
Tao was the only big miss for me.
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>>748198754
It sucks the worst boy got best girl.
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>>748198335
Indeed.
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So I want to get into this series, but have no clue what should I expect.
Which ones should I start with? I'm seeing Resleriana on sale (But I could also just *not* buy it.) What is it like?
Also fanservice, what are we talking here? What's to look forward too?
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>>748199143
i like how autistic and sheltered she is, but you can tell she is gona be a slave driver like chichi from dragon ball became
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holy shit
its so puffy.....
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im fuckin crankin it rn bros
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>>748201872
>>748202026
Okay, but she's not Plachta, heck she doesn't even appear in the Mysterious games.
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>>748202062
i didnt know this was a mysterious thread
bro look at this shit its so fuckin hot, you gotta let these posts slide
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>>748202162
It's fine, yeah. This is mostly a Mysterious thread but Atelier threads often become (or are) an Atelier thread in general. It's Mimi, I don't blame you for thinking that it's hot.
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Are these games good if I enjoyed how comfy the first trails game was?
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>>748200190
>Which ones should I start with?
It's important to note that each subseries doesn't just change the setting and casts, it also makes significant changes to the gameplay mechanics. The one constant is that item creation mechanics are a core gameplay component but beyond that they vary a great deal. So that said:
Do you care about actually having good gameplay that will actually challenge you? Start with Rorona.
Do you want a more melancholic mood as opposed to wacky slice of life? Start with Ayesha.
Do you want to play an open world checklist game designed for modern audiences? Start with Yumia.
>I'm seeing Resleriana on sale (But I could also just *not* buy it.) What is it like?
Ryza has a decent alchemy system but it was where they switched to action combat and it has one of the worst combat systems in the series as a result. The cast is bland and so is the story. It also has a weak soundtrack in a series that otherwise has consistently fantastic soundtracks.
>Also fanservice, what are we talking here? What's to look forward too?
Plenty of fan service in the Arland games (Rorona series), with panties, event CGs, and innuendos. Pic related. Less fan service in most other series, but still some degree of the same content. Despite what you may have been led to believe, Ryza's series is extremely sanitised; the characters have buxom proportions but all panties have been scrubbed from the games, reused NPCs from earlier games got covered up, and no one ever says anything even remotely suggestive.
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>>748182728
what would fucking her asscheeks feel like?
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>>748182728
Really appealing butt.
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>>748202558
I really liked ryza's ost
It was by the one piece guy iirc. Its such a comfy soundtrack. It really does the hazy summer afternoon vibes so well
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>>748180189
More like Plapcha.
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>>748194309
What does book asshole taste like?
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>>748202558
Nta, but I'm also curious about Resleriana too.
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>>748205332
Don't bother with Resleriana, it has procedurally generated areas, and half of the cast are non-canon versions of characters from other Atelier games. And some other characters come from the gacha (which is already EoS). This game was mostly made to promote the gacha, but the gacha flopped anyway.
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>>748201872
Mimi's Meruru model is great.
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ENTER
BIRDMAN
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>>748185745
They already had to use the Nosurge card since getting all the rightsholders involved would be too much of a pain.
Accept it, anon... It's over. and for the better, it'd get censored to hell and back
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I want the Mana Khemia artist back for chara designs. Stellar work right there.
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Peak feminity.
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Lmao, there are two active Atelier threads. I suppose I'll post here too.
Just started playing Yumia and I'm really not feeling it. I just finished the quest to open the lighthouse and I don't feel like I'm having fun—does it get better? I've already played Rorona, Ayesha, and Sophie, and a week before starting Yumia, I had just finished the entire Ryza trilogy, so I can definitely say I like these games.
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>>748205332
Resleriana is a fan service game full of returning characters except they censored it so they pissed off the fans because they're retarded.
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>>748185745
Ar tonelico is never coming back because Bamco owns the IP and Gust sold their souls to Koei-Tecmo.
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Why Mimi? Because she's flat?
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>>748207513
Everything about her.
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>>748201872
>>748202026
>>748202162
>>748206242
Totori uses those cheeks as a pillow btw
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>>748208321
What a coincidence. So do I.
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>>748207267
no, it doesn't get better. Yumia is just a bad game.
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>>748202514
The Atelier guys, especially the PS2/Vita era ones are very relaxing, yes. It's like a SoL anime with combat, so something like Precure maybe. But there is also a time limit, so I never go for the best ending on first playthrough because it can be very FAQ-heavy.
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Even in peril Mimi is so cute.
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>>748211107
>The Atelier guys
I mean games. I should sleep more.

>>748211678
She's great, yeah. Wilbel or whatever the witch was reminds me of her quite a bit.
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Shh. Mimi is sleeping.
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>>748180189
I used to really like the Atelier series, but I feel with the upcoming title, and the last one, that gusts heart isn't really in it anymore. Rorona, Totori, Meruru, Ayesha were all verified kino. I actually liked Escha & Logy, I know many didn't. Really liked sophie, didn't like firis that much. Ryza 1/2 was olkay, but everything after that has just been ass, it's like they're going through the numbers now, with characters that aren't interesting, designing everything safe, because they know that since Ryza that there is a group that will just buy it regardless.
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>>748213423
>over 25 entires
>only really like maybe 5 of them
>still call atelier my favorite series
I guess I really enjoyed Arland that much. Still holding out for Totori 2.
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>>748213853
They would sadly, probably, never be able to do Totori 2 justice.
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>>748213853
Maybe some day...
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>>748213423
I don't expect much from Gust in general these days. I really liked several Atelier entries, Ar tonelico, and Blue Reflection, but it seems like they've really been going downhill. I get the impression that their development costs are getting high enough that they don't feel they can afford to target niches or experiment anymore.
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>>748213423
>that gusts heart isn't really in it anymore
Thats the case since the Koei merge I feel like.
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>>748215506
Tbf Koei themselves didn't really used to give a shit what their developers were up to, or what they were making. Because Koei's main bread and butter is as a investment firm handling money. But they became a serious developer since 2020, and no doubt are now actually watching and restricting what their developers are allowed to design/develop to make sure it's "respectable" I mean biggest take-away of that was the Censorship and changing of Dead Or Alive, to be hyper Esports ready and making sure it would steer away from DoA's past so people wouldn't get the ick when its on stage.

Atelier seems to be in that same camp, where it's getting muted down, and safe/generic because well, that still sells, and however the nu-audience is of Atelier, seems to have no qualms with that.
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>>748213423
The vast majority of developers that were once great are a broken shadow of their former selves. I don't know if it's various conditions about the industry/economy/world or just that they can't think of anything else to make after 30 years. I think of musicians or other creatives and they can't really do stuff the way they used to once they're older. Kind of depressing.
Nitroplus and Aquaplus can still make good things, but they don't do it very often. Gust is sort of in the "Well, we gotta make something to put food on the table" autopilot mode I feel. At least they're still making stuff outside of gacha.
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i want to smell that hole so badly
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>>748215669
You don't know what you're talking about man. DoA 6 is still very much fanservice heavy. It has been shadowbanned by the fgc because they are run by faggots and the series itself is basically dead since the last game is 7 years old. It is only propped up by the vacation spinoff.
Ryza and Yumia are the most coomer designs yet and as such used as crossover bait for coomer gachas.
By safe/generic you must mean underage characters otherwise you make no sense.
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>>748213853
I loved Ryza and especially Mysterious, after finishing all of them, I then played Lulua (it's basically a Mysterious game in all but name), then figured the characters and lore are kinda interesting, let's try the OG trilogy next, so I bought them and gave Rorona a try.

Yes, the game is cute, the graphics and music are very soulful. But holy fuck, it is a literal chore simulator. You get fetch quests from the palace, craft items JUST TO TURN IN, else you get a game over. In other Ateliers you're making items for YOURSELF, so you get stronger and have tons of fun trying out various bombs and support items, but Rorona is just a chore simulator, complete the chores in X days, else the game ends, and if you succeed in completing the chores, you just get another batch instead. Nothing but the chores matters, the exploration and combat are barebones.

What's the appeal? How do people sit through this for 30 hours or however many it takes to beat. Boggles the mind.
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>>748216757
>You don't know what you're talking about man.
Do you? DoA6 released censored and toned down, it was only after they saw what they were doing failed, and no one played it, that they brought back costumes, and shifted back the tone on how it was and even then, the damage was already done. People were playing DoA5LR over DoA6, and DoA6 was essentially cut short and left to rot by its devs, and even now DoA6LR is just garbage that no one wants to touch. I know, because I actually play DoA since the PS2.
You clearly don't know what you're yapping about, also clearly don't know about all the interviews of DoA6 in development where they were stating that they wanted to change the image of the franchise and push for esports, so wtf are you even talking about.
Ryza and Yumia are the most coomer designs yet
>Big tits and thighs = coom
No it's safe and generic, like every character nowadays, you pretty much proved my point by even saying its gacha bait. Every character as of late is thick, big tits, skin indentation or big ass.
>By safe/generic you must mean underage characters otherwise you make no sense
Not at all, read above. Tho idc about "age" of a vidya char anyways.
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>>748217320
>Ryza and Yumia are the most coomer designs yet
Meant to add a > to that.
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>>748217320
They experimented with toned down fanservice in DoA since 5 beta, but backed off due to backlash actually. The DoA 6 Evo fiasco turned into a meme "muh evo core values" because the game was still very much coomerbait to them.
No one touches 6 because it is a dishonest fighter with no rollback and dlcs out of the ass. Like I said, the DoA name is only propped up by the fanservice spinoff.
>No it's safe and generic, like every character nowadays, you pretty much proved my point by even saying its gacha bait. Every character as of late is thick, big tits, skin indentation or big ass.
So you coom to loli. Whatever.
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>>748217740
>No one touches 6 because it is a dishonest fighter with no rollback and dlcs out of the ass. Like I said, the DoA name is only propped up by the fanservice spinoff.
DLC out of the ass isn't even a negative factor for most players and DoA Fans, because 5 had those just as much, it's just that 5's base content was good, satisfied its fans, and the outfits where additionally good on top of that. It was hated on 6, because if you wanted even a resemblance of 5 outfit wise, you had to spend money, and those outfits didn't come out until much later anyways, when they essentially gave up. Also the whole reason why rollback became even a meme point was because they gave up on heavy fanservice and instead started toning down the game for esports, but then didn't even add the basics of what a competitive fighter would have, go back in steam reviews, you can see people making that point as well.
>So you coom to loli. Whatever.
Anon, if you go outside for one moment, I know hard ask, you'd see that not everyone is thick, with huge breasts, that doesn't make them loli however.
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>>748218141
>DLC out of the ass isn't even a negative factor for most players and DoA Fans, because 5 had those just as much
1$ for one single hair color in DoA 6. That wasn't in 5.
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>>748214047
I like this idea
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>>748215669
Pic related.

>>748216757
>DoA 6 is still very much fanservice heavy.
lmao, fuck off retard.
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>>748180189
I like this better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1i2lpspZTw&list=RDJ1i2lpspZTw&start_radio=1
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>>748217320
>You clearly don't know what you're yapping about, also clearly don't know about all the interviews of DoA6 in development where they were stating that they wanted to change the image of the franchise and push for esports, so wtf are you even talking about.
And now they're going full retard with 6LR too.
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>>748222696
You get the og outfits for free in game. Marie Rose and Honoka are core fighters.
You are the retard here.
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>>748223239
She is mightily cute
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Is sophie still the top god alchemist? Also where is sophie 3 gust
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>>748187050
Go back to R*ddit you pussy.
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>>748213928
Nu-GUST treats Totori like a minefield they have to tiptoe around. They are actively afraid and ashamed of her.
Don’t even bother.
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>>748217227
The monthly goals in Rorona exist to tie the gameplay loop together. They are there to give you something to plan around and to push you to be resourceful and mindful of your time. Because the old Atelier games excelled not just at alchemy autism but at being time and resource management sims. The removal of the time limits in recent games was like removing a whole dimension from the series. Yeah, they’re “comfier” now, but without something to keep you focused and force you to be resourceful they feel more like wandering simulators and are way way easier to break in half since you don’t have time holding you back from making the absolute most overpowered items and equipment available at any given time.
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>>748221459
Both Shallotte and Hinako have bouncy boobs.
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taking sophie's butt to page 1
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>>748180189
wtf is that yellow shit on her legs I thought it was scat
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>>748180189
Has a single of these games been good ? I've played rorona and totori and wanted to kill myself.
I only ever really liked Mana khemia 1 out of this whole franchise I guess.
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I won't let the thread die yet! I want this thread to last at least 24 hours.
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>>748234694
Talk about how nu-Atelier is pussying out of lolis and fanservice so hard that they are running in the other direction and pandering to fatfag Amerilards.
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>>748236110
Hey, fanservice is fanservice, I won't deny that child or young characters are becoming rare but fanservice...revealing outfits, jiggle physics, those things aren't going anywhere. I know I'm not the only one who likes Nina's design...to an extent at least, it's true that her chest is so big that it can be ridiculous or not appealing anymore.
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>>748202558
>Do you care about actually having good gameplay that will actually challenge you? Start with Rorona
>Plenty of fan service in the Arland games
>that pic related
CUTE! Sold on that one, thanks anon. I was choosing between Rorona and Sophie. What do you think of the Sophie games? I always thought she was the cutest (purely based on key art that always gets posted in these threads).
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>>748236110
I kinda wanna see her butthole
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Ok but what if I want to stick it into this one?
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>>748237784
Hmm...that would be bad, maybe.
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>>748238836
You just know she's a freak in the sheets.
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>>748180189
>this costume in ryza 3 got censored
Are there any uncensored mods? I don't want to stare at the black void all the time.
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>>748239428
Huh?...probably?
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https://sophiechat-ai.go-spiral.ai/

AI chatbot sophie(official)
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>>748243564
Available now? Cool. Personally I won't download it.
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Are there any vids of ryza or sophie ai speaking English?
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>>748225503
This wasn't the point of Anon's post, though. But I guess he did word it in a weird manner.
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Any good nude mods for da pre ryza games?
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>>748247059
I've never watched one if such videos exist.
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The thread survived 24 hours! Yeah! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1EP8VqNs-k
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I WANT AR TONELICO BACK! AAARGH!
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Canonically unattractive.
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Esty deserved better.
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>>748243564
So how long until it does JOI like the Ryza bot?
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>>748250723
The perfectly flat chest, that perfectly smooth tummy… Totori screams to be made round and pregnant!
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>>748236775
Sophie is the cutest but at the same time she has that sexy allure despite that pure personality.. god she's the best..
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>TASUKETE!
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>>748249296
I want Mana Khemia back...
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>>748252243
More Totori wearing a bikini.
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Yeah, I'm going to drop Yumia this shit is ass. It’s a shame because the story is interesting, Yumia is hot, and I love that her staff doubles as a rifle, but I simply can't stand the gameplay. I guess I'll wait for a DX version to see if it improves; in the meantime, I think I'll move on to the second Dusk title.
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>>748256387
I've been hesitating trying it because it didn't seem like an Atelier game to me at all. I do plan to try it eventually, but I don't know when. Some DX trilogy re-release as you've said, maybe.
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>>748255453
I’ve come to realize the appeal of flat chests is that it accentuates the smooth, flat and perfectly fit babymaking tummy. Whereas boobs just distract you and get in the way.
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There are two paths in life for a tummyfag; decrease the proportion of everything else relative to the tummy and become a flatfag/lolicon, or increase the volume of the tummy relative to everything else and become a fatfag/architect. I chose the former.
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>>748256563
The gameplay is a mix of Ubislop and Gayshit Impact with a dash of crafting. I was able to tolerate the open world in Ryza 3 because it wasn't the main focus and I was already attached to the cast, but here the open world IS the focus. Plus, having to build multiple structures around the map to hit exploration milestones, screw that, I’d much rather have crafting milestones. On top of that, the combat is a mess; it’s really hard to make sense of. And I don't know but, alchemy without a cauldron just doesn't feel right. Maybe I'm a terciary and they've done this in another game before, but I don't like it.
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>>748257334
>The gameplay is a mix of Ubislop and Gayshit Impact with a dash of crafting
Yeah, that's what it looked like to me and I remember people talking about it in the threads. I wonder why they changed it so much. Aiming for mass appeal I guess?
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>>748257927
>Aiming for mass appeal I guess?
Exactly, and as GUST put it in a recent interview, the only way they feel they can survive in a post-gacha world.
Gachashit completely wrecked the Japanese niche game industry. You don’t hate gachabuta enough.
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>>748180189
>fat fuck party member
>has a ball roll attack
holy based
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>>748256927
I see...but a lot of Atelier characters don't have a flat chest, some of them wouldn't like your post :(
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>>748258526
They can direct their complaints to my cock (by sucking it).
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>>748236775
>What do you think of the Sophie games?
Sophie is the second-most boring protagonist in the series and her game isn't good either. It has a terrible combat system, an alchemy system that's mechanically decent early on by having you deal with restrictions to make better items but this gets thrown out in the endgame, and it's also grindy as fuck because at several points the game just stops you and goes "now kill 50 monsters to unlock the next recipe required to progress the story".
I really do not recommend Sophie at all.
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>>748258483
>the only way they feel they can survive in a post-gacha world.
That's so very depressing, but not news to me. It's not like their games were ever hugely popular, though. Bloated budgets for more graphics? No, the visuals aren't really that high tech either. Oh, well.

>You don’t hate gachabuta enough.
Oh, but I do.
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>>748259309
>"now kill 50 monsters to unlock the next recipe required to progress the story".
the game never spells it out but in each section of the book there's a particular boss that automatically unlocks the next part. The very first one is the cat boss on the farm and I believe the last one before the final dungeon opens is the lich that blocks your ability to heal.
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>>748259845
Does that also apply to the "grind x synthesis points" ones?
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>>748251391
the random name change they gave her single-handedly stopped me from trying out this series for years
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>>748260509
yes, there's one for every part
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So, I guess this is the longest-lasting Atelier thread in a long time.
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I have no idea what game to start with
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>>748261860
Rorona. Start of the best and most definitive trilogy, easy enough for newcomers since the time management is broken down into bite sized monthly goals instead of Totori’s large overarching 5 year goal, lots of side events and characterization to get you attached to the characters, postgame features Totori and Meruru time traveling back to join your party so it can kinda introduce you to them before you actually play their games.
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>>748247059
Here, just for you. It's shit.
>>>/wsg/6239603
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>>748261434
and without Ryza posters derailing the thread with porn and erp, quite the accomplishment
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>>748187050
>shy and reserved character
what the fuck are you talking about lil bro, she literally ask for this outfit when you're doing her quest to build her dolly body.
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>>748263391
Unless I'm not remembering correctly, she does ask for a body which Keithgriff makes, but she didn't say ''I want a revealing outfit designed by Leon''.
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>>748263597
Her outfit is her design, which sophie is like wow plactha i didnt know you had this kind of hobby and she goes it's not a hobby! this is just normal outfit for an alchemist.
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>>748263254
It’s funny because beyond the designs Ryza has almost no fanservice, not even lewd or sexually charged jokes like cream pies or Astrid and Melvia’s entire characters. Arland mogs it hard by basically being Mel Kishida’s Magical Realm, before Blue Reflection came along.
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>>748264121
For me, Ryza and Lila are the embodiment of sex, so I get why some people get so worked up honestly. I appreciate the occasional lewd picture of Ryza myself, but it’s really annoying when an erp session between two or three retards starts. That’s the moment I bail on the thread.
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Almost 200 posts, come on...
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There we go, 200 posts.
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>>748267884
Good art, and a nice way to promote the game too.
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Do we love Karia here?
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>>748195420
I'll play it if they actually include the fatty mechanic
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What the kraken scene should've been.
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>>748226354
This, Atelier is way too easy without some sort of restriction you have to be mindful of
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>>748269003
I think she is cute
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>>748269003
Don't ask ''here'', no one should speak for everyone, I can't speak for everyone and I shouldn't, but I can say this; Some people like her...I like her.
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>>748269003
I think she's the best protagonist design since Sophie, shame about the censor shorts.
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Tf im reading sophie slanders here
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>>748268929
Oh my.
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>>748185745
They already tried with Ciel/Ar nosurge. You should have bought it. If you did then you should have shilled it to your friends.
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>>748269003
I like her design. I'll probably never play the game, though.
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Why Marie is so unlewdable even though she has more revealing outfit than all modern atelier protagonist?
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>>748273814
You think? Well...I don't know.
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>>748273980
Esty is cute.
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>>748273980
40
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The legendary alchemist... has been defeated.
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>>748272446
>You should have bought it
They literally wouldn’t sell it to me. It’s on them and the Japanese who they restricted it to and who passed it up for worthless gachashit like the retarded bugmen they are.
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>>748279873
High Impact
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>>748269003
yes because i like the artist
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>thread is still up next day
>still only at 200+ posts
4chan is fucking dead, where do I go now?
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>>748280390
Altchans for better discussion.
Twitter for more activity
Fediverse for somewhere in between
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>anata, when is the new gust IP?
>you are not excited by atelier #30, right?
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Anyone try the new vibe coded mods for the Arland and Dusk games? Apparently they fix the menu lag and restore missing shadows plus fix the crashes in Totori and other things.
https://github.com/nicoverbruggen/atelier-arland-fixes
https://github.com/nicoverbruggen/atelier-dusk-fixes
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>>748272446
>shilling a GF simulator to your friends
not everyone is as based as picrel



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