Microsoft heeb committing pilpul after he was shoahed from 343 KEK
>>748341934Speak English you fucking weeaboo
>I got fired for making awful Halo games, this is illegal!Stupid roastie
Oy vey, repent for the two hundred employees
He better hope they're criminals
People really think they should be paid to do fuck all indefinitely on products not a single soul likes. Nice to see such hubris meet its natural conclusion, finally.
>>748341934Halo was promised to him 3000 years ago
>>748341934>200 hardworkingHard working or hardly working? Where's the output?
This post will be coming down soon. The CnD is probably already sent.
>>748341934>Entitled Millennial leftoid throwing a tantrum after getting fired for being a worthless waste of space
>>748341934nobody cares if a bunch of underperformer nepo hires got axed. why do these people think randos care about their employment woes?
What was the criminal offense? Must have been lame if he didn't say.
>>748341934My sympathy is entirely dependent on whether the art direction of modern Halo was his decision or HR's.The needle on the gage is starting at "blacklist from the industry" given his stated position at the company and the fact that he's throwing legal accusations around instead of accusations related to the art and narrative direction of modern Halo.
>>748341934is this why 343 was allowed to make endless garbage for 19 years without any consequences?good riddance
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>>748341934nepo baby finds out that losing your job is actually a thing that can happen in real life
>>748341934>>748342075>>748342315>>748342367>>748342393Crazy how Microsoft is the literal only company in the industry who can get away with massive brutal layoffs of 1000s of workers and multiple game cancellations, and not be criticized for it but in fact be celebrated as a hero for it.Meanwhile if Nintendo or Sony did this exact same thing you would never heard the end of it, /v/ and all of the internet would be awash with endless posts about how "evil" they are for doing so.I'm nooticing...
>>748341934>i'll remind you of thing>what is thing? i'm not telling you>but people did it and its badvery informative
>>748342505In Microsoft's case the people fired deserved it for being worthless employees. Citation being every single game they've put out for the last generation and then some.
>>748342505why are you so retarded and type like a faggot?I'm nooticing...
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>>748342574If every game Microsoft has released for the past generation+ is worthless, then the entirety of Microsoft Gaming should be shut down and Xbox should exit the console industry.Why are you trusting the same corporation who ruined everything for 10+ years to suddenly turn things around purely because they put a new PR face at the head of things?
>>748342742>the entirety of Microsoft Gaming should be shut down and Xbox should exit the console industry.yeah pretty much
>>748342505They're pretty much the most hated of the three companies. They're not "getting away with it". You only feel that way because you are a Sony or a Nintendo fan boy.
>>748342505>Meanwhile if Nintendo or Sony did this exact same thing you would never heard the end of itTranny pls....we danced over the grave of Firewalk studios after Concord, we are also RARING for Bungie to fucking die, as for Nintendo, old heads still run it, and even their flops are made under a controlled budget so there have been no mass layoffs yet.
>>748341934and he'll be dumped into a vat of acid soon
>>748342742>Why are you trusting the same corporation who ruined everything for 10+ years to suddenly turn things around purely because they put a new PR face at the head of things?Who said anything about that? I'm just glad parasites got fired.
>>748342505you're a retard, bro
>>748342786mmm, second.They should get out of the os and software games, too.
>>748342787>They're pretty much the most hated of the three companies.And yet /v/ is absolutely flooded with threads in the past day praising them and proclaiming Asha Sharma "le savior of video games!!1"
>>748342505Yeah, nobody laughed their heads off when the studio that made Concord got closed! And where's the campaign against Bungie?! And the Fairgame$ studio?! And Guerilla Games?! And Laundry? And Yotei?! And Naughty Dog?!
>>748342445Jay walking
>literally not one good halo gameHow the fuck did 343 do this?
>>748342939Foid, fag, and simp studio.
>>748342875when Nintendo decides to completely eradicate the (((Treehouse))), then they will be called saviors too.
>>748342505everyone here hates game devs for some reason so no they cheer on every single firing no matter who it is or where they worked
>>748342987>everyone here hates game devsyou meant to say modern game devs, disingenuous retard-sama. and they are hated, and with ample reason. of course there will be cheers in the streets when these incompetent worthless fucks get the axe. that just means they can't continue to harm the industryof course, you knew this, which is why you deliberately chose to say "game devs" instead of "modern game devs"
>>748342505Sony once made good games. Microsoft never made good games
>>748342505ms is not the only company who has had massive layoffs. ms gets attention because they funded thousands of game devs for eons with nothing to show for it. they created a 'dream team' like the inititive who did nothing for years on end except make a vertical slice of perfect dark and let 343 slog around for years.unity has laid off nearly 5000 people since 2022 and got massive attention for its runtime fee bsubi has laid off untold thousands and has struggled with keeping cash cows like ass creed aliveembracer laid off 8000 people because all they do is acquire ips and sit on themsony has laid off thousands because they keep making live service flopstake2 nuked 5% of their people back in 2024
>>748343076So who do we replace them with?
KojiPro is more likely to put out a good game than 343.And Kojima is just scamming.
>>748343193Straight white men with computer science degrees from Chud University.
>>748342445I work in biotech and see violations of law all the time. Usually violation of employment discrimination law like not hiring whites or men, which I doubt Glenn Israel is complaining about.
>>748343243All replaced by ai, which people also celebrated because muh hecking blue collar workers being forced to code. Remember that the vast majority of the the tech sector was men.
>>748343193>replace why would you ?Their games were shit and their staff bloated
>>748342987We dance over the graves of those who deserve it, no dev team deserves to day more than 343, AKA Halo Studios
all you had to do was make good games and you could have kept your cushy 6 figure 9-5
>>748343193hopefully someone who is competent
>>748343223Kojipro can at least put together a decent cinematic. The shit in Halo Combat Devolved is laughable, I've seen animation students create better work after their first 3 months learning
>>748342505Microslop is bloated with useless deadweight paycheck stretchers. Everyone is already laughing at Sony with Bungie, Firewalk, and Insomniac to follow soon. Half of Nintendo's games use fucking TTS and beeps for voicing and their cinematics are a bunch of high school project tier shit. Their stories are like 1 paragraph long. How do you layoff something that doesn't exist?
>>748343409This is provably false. People get laid off before their games even release now.
>>748343193Halo needs to end bro. Remember it for the good times 20 years ago. Let's just forget everything Reach and afterward ever happened and remember the good times playing Lockout in Halo 2 on XBL.
>>748342987If you're a retard who thinks that western AAA is the entirety of the gaming industry, it might look that way.Yes, that ecosystem does need to be continuously demolished until it's either totally destroyed or has began unapologetically targeting their products at their 90% male customer base that wants videogames with guy things instead of movies for gender studies professors. The latter will require fundamentally changing how they're structured and who does and does not get hired. The left wing political cabal that wants to work with people like Erika Ishii and Kim Belair needs to be cleared out one way or another.
>>748343481are people counting contract work as "layoffs"
>>748341934pic rel Glenn's contributions to billion dollar video games. Poor guy got got by the a.i. art slime
>>748343493Reach was fun
>>748343427Unfortunately for them both, and more importantly, me, I play games for the gameplay.
every company fires employees but somehow only MS gets shit for it
>>748343481Also what happened with Tango. The entire studio got shuttered because MS had to close a studio, and just chose the one who actually released their game on time and had nothing in progress.
>>748341934>oy vey i know we got rid of all the whites but how could this happen to us jeets where supposed to care about us!!!are jews genuinely retarded?
>>748343751That's cute, do you also eat food solely for the nutritional value? No seasoning, no sweets, no wasted calories, just bland tasteless fuel?
>>748343193>Who should replace the faggot Who hates guns that is somehow working as developer for one of the most popular SHOOTER FRANCHISES IN THE WORLDGee, I dunno, maybe, someone who likes guns? Maybe not a gigantic faggot that got there because of HR retardation and not merit?
>Glenn Israel>white malelmao, this dude is never working again
>>748341934What the fuck does any of that mean
>>748343703Name a more useless video game job than a concept artist.
>>748344735Yeah, let's just delegate all that shit to ai slop realism instead.
>>748343703Anything to avoid admitting that this is happening because western AAA proudly avoids making games that its natural customers actually want. Which is also the reason why people are cheering the layoffs and closures.
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>>748343703amazing. Only three games worth anything he worked on and all three were made 10-20 years ago. The story of the modern HACK
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>>748341934goddamn asha is so BASED>>748341975spwpfuck off, seething kike
>>748344823AI complainers are really going to do this for the next 5 years aren't they? It's not going anywhere, stop crying
It is really weird that with Expedition 33 the whole internet agreed that devs are good people they just need good leadership, now the whole internet agrees every single dev is a spawn of satan responsible for a bad game.
>>748344823You're the only person who brought up AI. Take your meds.
>>748344913Avowed is genuinely one of the ugliest fucking games ever made. That fungus shit is just sickening to look at.
>>748344735That's one of the least replaceable jobs. Every major character and set piece begins as a sketch, and it's vital for the artistic direction of the game.And it's also why they deserve to be fired if the art direction is shit.
>>748342505"dumbest nigger in the thread" award winner
>>748341934What art has this turd made? Halo was already fleshed out before he showed up.
>>748344913Well he got what he wanted. He finally got to go back to the woods. He shouldn't complain. He literally asked for it.
>>748344956>calls himself "daddy", which is usually an effort to sexually objectify yourself for women>will probably screech about sexual objectification if guys want cute and sexy female characters in their media
>>748342987we hate westoidal gay devs, because they're kike propaganda pushing nigger retards who can't make a good fucking game to save their lives
>>748341934>I WITNESSED A CRIMINAL OFFENSE>What was it?>IT WAS BAD, OKAY?!There had better be an actual crime here outside of "they hurt my feefees"
>>748342505i'm never gonna feel bad for anyone at 343i getting fired, nigga
>>748345132He shit on someone's desk as a prank
>>748341934Yo, bitchboy. There seems to be some missing info from your tweet pic, like what the FUCK the crime in question is? If OP's person is doing the hasbra shuffle, show that as well.
>>748343193with exclusively straight white men. aka non-westoidals
>>748342939bad people in the studio being gaslit by a community of non-Halo fans that tried moving into the franchise.
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>>748342505eh?I wish Sony and Nintardo would just go bankrupt and fully close, what the fuck are you on about stupid nigger
>>748344001it means you have to be 18 or older to post on this website, and you are underage
>>748343334If you were so worthless that machines could do your job better than you, you deserved it.
>>748345158it's called a chicago desktop
>>748342505You TRIED this trash last thread anon. And got rectally reamed. Giant fucking bigots at microsoft worked their ASS off for this outcome.If Treehouse at N got sacked, we'd do a sack dance too. >>748342574No. The art director on Avowed wasn't fucking worthless. He was far WORSE than worthless. He was like 'trick Weeks post hair color change kind of fucking crazy. The shit he was doing was probably a OCR employment violation, because he was that goddam racist.He was screaming about how he was going to work extra hard to make sure chuds hated this game, right before it's launch. The fact that he wasn't fired immediately by one of the most defensive minded HR teams in the goddam world told the story of how fucked it wasl;
>>748343381So, he loves freaks and terrorists. Good to know. Hope he one day chokes on kebab dick in Gitmo, where his ilk belongs.
>>748342531>I will remind of you of something>Do I know this something?>...no>Will you tell me?>...noHow is that REMINDING NIGGER
>>748342742You're goddam terrible at this anon. You're not even worth really insulting.
>>748343223Kojima might be a pretentious cunt, but he delivered good games. His track record is immaculate when compared to these freaks.
>>748345158I've seen worse.A relative of mine tricked his boss into drinking his own piss.It's just funny haha gags at the office.
>>748343703Can you imagine working on games for 30 years and working on ZERO good ones?
>>748342789...and you did NOT see that for Studio Japan, or SCET. Because game quality and character fucking matter. Nobody here is going to fucking cheer for layoffs at EAD.
>>748345373Seems to be a common theme these days
>>748344971There's difference between devs with soul, and wannabe freaks who hate the West and everything it stands for. Unfortunately, AAA is infested to the brim with the latter. That is why it must burn to cinders until nothing remains.
>>748342939They worked their ASS off at it. They went out and hired leaders who didn't play halo, didn't play other FPSes, and hated the goddam millitary. And they were completely choked in mismanagement on top of that. Try finding a SINGLE instance that shows Sheboon knows a single fuck about anything about halo's gameplay?
>>748345120Saying the wokeshits are pro jews is paradoxical. They hate them even more than we do.
>>748345410Specially among the honest, hardworking devs that are being laid off for some reason ehSurely just coincidential
>>748343193The people the motherfuckers Metooed out. The people who actually played games. You know the Blizzard allegations turned out to be complete fucking bullshit?
>>748342939Bungie never made a good halo game eitherMakes you wonder why
>>748342987Remove HR, sensitivity readers, intimacy coordinators, and all other left wing political commissar positions.Fire the communist devs with pronouns and rainbow flags in bio who jump on every left wing trend (if they deliberately start trying to misunderstand why this is happening, think about what having someone like this on your team does to the project)Find those devs who complain in private about how their hands are tied and they hate this shit; there are supposedly a lot of themPromote them, tell them to run wild, and get ready for the rules that the industry currently plays by to be totally shatteredIgnore the game journo freak out and get rid of any incentives that tie pay to metacritic scoresThe solution is already working at your studio.
>>748343334I would trust a core team of video game playing nerds with AI over the current rainbow coalition. Lets see them try it at least.
But what was the crime
>>748343381As far as failure per dollar, they're incredibly hard to beat but not impossible. But unlike Bungie, they never even really had a high point. The closest they ever got was as a support studio to bungie.
>Art director Get a load of this jew acting like he wasn't in on all of it.
>>748345449expedition 33 lead dev worked on skull and bones which was horrible. Why doesnt he qualify for a wannabe greak who hates the west in your dictionary?
>>748342505You're taking a lot of shit but there's a sliver of truth in here. I had a friend randomly text me about how based it was of the new MS CEO to do this and my first thought was, it's "based" that some fucking CEO of a big corporation fired a bunch of its peons? You know who's probably not getting fired is the chain of decision makers actually responsible for shit like Campaign Evolved and every other flop. People need to examine their reactions more closely
>>748342505>forgetting about bluepointthey could also naughtydog or santimonica studios and I'd clap. Could honestly probably get away with axing insomiac and sucker punch and it wouldnt be a big deal either.but the thing about sony is they already buried their good studios years ago, so them cutting anyone now would be more good than bad at this point
>>748345556second
I get that Microsoft sucks and their games suck but isn't them wasting money a great punishment? What do you guys gain from them closing down shop?
>>748341934it's true, i was there, they put the toilet paper hanging at the backit was the worst thing i've ever seen
>>748343481>>748343790Unfortunately the big companies particularly in the west are like that. But NOT making games guarantees you to be ejected unlike making games.
>>748345589 firing a jew
>>748342505Sony gets shit all the time and nintendo doesn't even HAVE a bunch of deadweight devs. You know what Nintendo does do? they keep the same people who've been working at the company since the fucking 80s.
>>748345589Not paying him a massive sum of money to make games for nobody until the end of time.
>>748345681If true then these guys are absolutely fucked, miga will not let this slide
>>748343703AI is going to mean that only the best of the best concept artists are going to remain, and 3 good things 20 years ago? I don't like his odds. None of this matters though. he made claims that MS is criminal. MS is full of scummy criminal retards, so i think it's very well possible. I think it's also possible that HE might be the scummy criminal retard, or that everybody fucking sucks. So lets see his claims.
>>748342505Sony gets shit because they AREN'T firing their legion of worthless parasites
>>748343789Nintendo didn't even fire Retro studios.>>748343884Are you autistic? not in the quirk chungus sense. Or are you just having problems thinking in complete connectable thoughts?
>>748344735Accessibility specialist. Cultural content reader. SCRUM supervisor. Diversity HR specialist.
>>748345658 activision can't make a worse halo game.There's zero chance.It might not be better, but it sure as fuck won't be worse. And if it is, I don't have to play it like I didn't play 4, 5, and infinites campaign. So I really don't give a fuck.
>>748345842Activision at least has experience making shooters, they do a good job keeping their audience where 343 alienated theirs
>>748345782Answer the question retard
>>748342505>Meanwhile if Nintendo or Sony did this exact same thing you would never heard the end of it, /v/ and all of the internet would be awash with endless posts about how "evil" they are for doing so.Sony killed Bluepoint and Bungie and everyone mocked them for it. You and your retarded victim complex.....
>>748344971Are you just restating the same stupid wrong thing several times in the thread? If we see hard evidence of some dev being a crazy racist bigot, who was also not good at his job because it was ugly and unappealing like: >>748344956>>748344913why the fuck should he get a pass? On the other hand, if some dude from these crashed studios goes indie and makes some amazing shit, ill cheer for him and possibly give him my goddam money. is that so hard to understand?
>>748345921I only answer to your mom when she calls me to fuck her pussy
>>748345003Yes and no. AI is pretty fucking good at concept art so you need far fewer people, and far fewer outside contractors. Like Concord had like a half dozen people AND hired WETA.You still need a good concept artist to fuel this shit, but not as many of them.
>>748345975Exactly what I thought, tasteless retard
>>748345957Answer me. The whole 343 was 100% full of blue haired people who wanted to make a bad game on purpose?
>>748341934don't care lol
>>748346054>on purposesure feels like it
>>748341934FINNA REMIND YOU YAHEARD
>>748342505>Crazy how [business] can [lay off workers]>Meanwhile [unrelated]We're pointing and laughing at the lazy developers that were laid off.What, you think we LIKE the companies that make shitty games? No, we like to see them make shitty decisions that hasten their demise. All power to them to fuck up harder and harder.
>>748346076so no answer?
>>748346102I wasn't who you were replying to I just wanted to comment. But yes
>>748346034Yeah I know, truth hurts
>>748342505>Sony did this exact same thing you would never heard the end of itSony laid off a bunch of Bungie employees a couple months ago over maraflop and everyone had a good laugh about it.
>>748341934I don't like the people being fired anymore than you do but I'm past celebrate evil corporations being evil corporations.I'm not going to cheer for being driven off a fucking cliff just because people I hate are in the car with me.
>>748346131what is your favorite game? or are you too much of a coward to answer that question too? faggot
>>748346054I think that if you not willing to leave, push for a purge and risk getting fired in the process, or pull a Mathew White, your a collaborator and deserve just the same.Options that cause you harm are still options otherwise dudes who burn themselves alive as protest wouldn't be looked upon with equal parts horror and awe.
>>748346141Do you only play Gun & Ball games?
>>748345501no it isn't, and no they don't, they're literally the thralls of the kikes, which is why they're westoidals, the only thing they hate is white men>muh they think le kikes are whiteno they don't, stop being a pilpulling kike
>>748345617If you actually give a fuck, go check some of the early threads where people investigated the leads, saw them talk about what games they liked, didn't see any obvious "dont' buy this shit from these lunatics" problems, and then based their opinion on the game that came out. . There were six THOUSAND motherfuckers on that game. We aren't doing a Hogwarts Legacy tranny thing were we check every single one of their social medias for being racist weirdos. Well, at least I"M not doing it. If some crazy autismo is doing it, they aren't telling me.Are you getting how it fucking works?
>>748346162Fucking your mom in the ass
>>748346469I have severe brownoid fatigue. Imagine thinking this was clever and worth posting. Incomprehensible to a white man like me
>>748346462Who the fuck is saying anything about racists you dumb fuck?What I am saying is that most of the devs just follow an order, just like the exp33 lead dev did with skull and bones.Aisha ended the propaganda machine lead by troons? Good. But labeling all of them like evil people ruining games on purpose is idiotic, even if your grifter youtuber gods tell you to do it.
>>748345658>What do you guys gain from them closing down shop?It's a critical part of the free market fixing it. One of the big efforts of the last decade of woke was enforcing political rules and diverstity over skill and ability in hiring, and that includes forcing out people who were too chudly. The goal was to set up permanent political barriers to entry.Also, more than a few of these people had attempted to shut down 4chan, via the stop hate speech movments. That was the shit that went after 4chan's payment processors and hosting. It would be stranger to NOT cheer for their removal.
>>748346531>I have severe brownoid fatigueToo bad, you will call me daddy soon
>>748346639I will call you nigger now
>>748342964>/v/ once went out of its way to create and send a thank you asskiss collage to the nintendo treehouse>now it wants to burn the treehouse to the ground and erase any survivorsNintendo is nintendo, but this probably exemplifies how fucked the game industry has become, better than most things do.
>>748346665Imagine having a nigger dad, kek
>>748346690My dad is white though
>>748341934Let me guess, they violated the Civil Rights Act and its supporting legislation by hurting his feelings.
>>748341934>Im witness to a crime, hear me out!>yes, Im only saying this now that I was fired, I would had covered it forever otherwiseTotal Dev Death
>>748343381I love when they put "views are my own" in their bio as if it makes them magically immune to any backlash from the unhinged things they say.
>>748346819They just limit replies to keep the echo chamber going. No real opinions allowed, just ass kissing or blocked
>>748341934If he actually witnessed them commit a crime, why did he report it to HR and not the police?
>>748346819>views are my own>also always draws attention about who their employer is to boost legitimacy about their opinionsmany such cases
>>748342987>Nooo you're supposed to feel bad for parasites like picrel!No. Get fucked.
>>748347017At least don't use AI to write your replies.
>>748347017You're so retarded and late you don't even know who you're replying to.
>>748346141Oh, Microsoft has a reputation for being one of the worst companies in the world, but the studios made terrible games and in some cases, spent 5 years making no fucking games at all. Even an evil company can make a fair move. >I'm not going to cheer for being driven off a fucking cliff just because people I hate are in the car with me.Why the fuck are you in the car with these idiots? Don't tell me that you think terrible devs and devs that don't make any games at all should deserve to make Pacific Northwest software devleoper class salaries.That's bitchmade shill talk.
>>748347048>because they do not cater to you or that the product does not please youIt used to cater and please me until it got hijacked by talentless hacks that rode on the shoulders of their predecessors that built the titans of the industry from the ground up. These people never created anything from nothing. They ride on the reputation of established IPs until it sinks below the earth.These clowns man.
>>748342875/v/ celebrates every time there are layoffs, not exclusive to microsoft
>>748347151>Why the fuck are you in the car with these idiots?I'm talking about the world in general, anon.
>>748347381No you're not. Nobody is in the same car as these greedy assholes to feel anything for them. That's why they're failing in the first place.
>>748342574yeah thats why they hired double that amount of indians and getting them to the states. So much better
748346592>Who the fuck is saying anything about racists you dumb fuck?You missed the specific explicit example of a racist motherfucker earlier in the thread, and the rest of your post is blathering bullshit where you make up the position you want to argue against. I will actually put some effort in to make sure some of these motherfuckers don't get employed in anything I care about again, but that's not the entire 3 or 4 thousand bitches who worked on the last few Halo games. That's already been repeated enough times.Now SOME of these people to the >If 9 People Sit at a Table with 1 Nazistandard that THEY held when they tried to fire everyone who disagreed with them politically, but that's not the entire group either.
>>748347530Oh, this is a retard thread now. This is my favorite video game retard
>>748347116Thread's not worth the effort. I think the copy paste shit like>>748342505is people trying to play to the press. Try to claim it was all the hate machine's fault, and they're being treated unfairly.
>>748347381So...don't cheer? But even if you disagree, are you surprised at all that there are people here cheering? I mean the more public figures in the stop online hate movement at these teams were quite politically active in their efforts to shut down 4chan.Regardless, you're not going to do anything to stop them.
Heeb/hebe. It's crazy that a homophone can be so repulsive and so attractive at the same time. Truly stunning stuff.
>>748341934Hope individuals of interest sue for defamation. People got to used to making false claims, specially women. Hoping for public humiliation.
>>748343493You're right but Reach was fine. It was a good sendoff to the Halo series and should've stayed that way honestly.
>>748347672It took you a hundred and seventy seven posts to recognize that a twitter post bitching vaguely about crimes, that never got any more detail to recognize that it's a retard thread? That's not even including the copy and paste hasbra.Maybe you do actually belong with the stupid haters here.>>748347983I still want to see what fucking crimes OP is talking about. But seeing salt from crappy unemployed devs is ok too.
>>748348054Why are you taking it so seriously then, retard?
>>748347467>No you're not. Nobody is in the same car as these greedy assholes to feel anything for themAnon...the world is the car.I don't want the world to go to absolute shit and become a corporate hellscape because people I hate will also suffer.
>>748345373I mean to be fair, that's just how it is in most industry. Most of the games Tim Follin made music for where either terrible or just completely unremarkable.
>>748347830>are you surprised at all that there are people here cheering?Not at all. I'd just caution against getting so wrapped up in it that you spite yourself to spite others.>Regardless, you're not going to do anything to stop them.No but I'd like us to not go too far down the slope of "this thing that makes life worse for everyone including me is good because trannies BTFO"
