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What's next for Persona?
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>>748549034
a shorter game hopefully
I dont have the patience for 120h games anymore
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>>748549034
Atlus is such an incompetent developer.
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velvet room shota
standard femc route
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The same shit every single time until people get tired of it. Also copious amounts of taking away all of Atlus' attention from better series like Persona's vastly superior parent franchise SMT or Etrian Odyssey. Every new IP will just be Persona with a shitty spin on it yet people will jack off Atlus over how DARING and BRAVE it is or some such nonsense. But you know this, faggot OP.
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Elizabeth SEXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>748549174
SMT sucks
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I don't care, 5 was fucking awful.
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>>748549321
Not as much as your mom
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Sex with Mitsuru-senpai.
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>>748549034
Adachi redemption story
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Persona 5.4
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more shitty menu games
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They should make a game where MC is a fat 30yo social retard that didn't have any friends in school
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>>748550108
Addendum:
All romance interest should be hags
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>>748550108
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>>748549034
>>748549763
>>748550231
You're brown.
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>>748550295
and?
Mitsusu might still decide to have sex with me
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>>748550295
>see a post about an attractive woman
>immediately think of Indians
Have you considered not being a flaming faggot?
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>>748549034
More persona 5 until P6 releases in 2030.
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>>748549034
>What's next for Persona?
More sexy high school girls
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>>748549034
A good UI (personafags raging)
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how old is Mitsuru?
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>>748550295
mindbroken
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They could just make the same game over and over (new characters/story/ost) of course and I will still buy it and have fun. They don't make games quickly enough that I'd get tired of it anyways.
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>>748550641
Old enough, faggot.
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>>748550641
like 17 or 18 making her a hag by purse owner standards
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>Draw a 30+ year old milf
>Claim she's 17
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>>748549107
the appeal of the games is that they're long as fuck and let you overindulge in escapism
i hope p6 is 200 hours
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>>748550753
>>748550786
She's a hag in p4au
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>>748549034
edge kino, milf romances, jc romances, sex scenes, rape (maybe)
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>>748549321
Celebrini seems to be celebrating
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>>748551353
I'd like to see edge stuff make a come back. I know it won't happen but I do like the dark stuff but they probably won't make the game for adults
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>>748550786
She doesn't look 30+ though.
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Why aren't there 9 million shitty persona clones? Why are P3-5 the only games of their style?
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>>748551628
She looks like a hag trying to wear her old school uniform to recapture her youth.
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>>748549034
She looks like me
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>>748551784
London?
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>>748551784
You owe me sex.
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>>748551659
I've definitely seen games that are social high school part and then an RPG part but one usually ends stinking too much. But if we just focus on
> Calendar system
> Social links
It doesn't sound that hard, I would even say that being an RPG is optional. So yeah, a bit surprising. There are still issues with copyright and maybe people don't want to mess with that but there's a line where you can rightly say it was inspiration. Persona is AAA polished in presentation but still people could try.
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Is the calendar system worth it? It just makes me want to follow a guide.
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>>748552606
I've only played P3-5 but I never max out all social links by the end of the game. To max them out I need a guide and to play new game +. I don't even end an evening with "go to bed" without progressing anything.
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>>748552606
Take Your Time nigga
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>>748549034
more hag sex
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>>748551784
N A G A S A K I
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>>748550231
>they fixed fingers so now every chud is doing ai art again
tiresome, it still isn't there unless you use loras and poses
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as a p5r babby should I play the p3 remake or original
asking since there's the atlus sale on steam right now
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>>748550108
Persona 4 is 100% what you're looking for, they just made them antagonists so that the game could still sell. The whole game is making fun of the different types of ATLUS fan:

>Mitsuo, the feckless social retard who's narcissistic enough to jerk off all day and still think he deserves to have the richest girl in school.
>Namatame, the grown ass adult who thinks he's super important, still suffering from Superman syndrome well into his 30's.
>Adachi, the burnout misanthrope who probably posts on 2ch all day.

>Meanwhile, the protagonist is every Western success stereotype mixed into one. To max out the game, you have to become the kind of person absolutely nobody who plays ATLUS games would ever be - working multiple side jobs, talking to people and understanding their feelings, studying for school, and eventually even getting laid.

P4 is a brilliant game.
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>>748550641
Old enough to bear healthy, classy cihldren.
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>>748553009
>P3 original if you want to witness the original without any of the modifications that came afterwards
>P3 FES if you want Aigis' extra story without paying extra
>P3 Portable if you want to play as the female MC, with her own unique social links
>P3 remake if you want as many changes as possible (Aigis' story is a separate DLC)
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>>748553298
>Yukari is even prettier
>Mitsuru is even hotter
>Fuuka is even cuter
Sometimes, just sometimes, remakes are actually worth the change in the art style.
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>>748553146
I want a bnedo game where MC is shitty and then improves upon himself/learns how to overcome retarded schizoid traits of his mind whilst also facing actual life threatening problems because I cannot empathize with 16yo littleaged peckfucks whose biggest problem in life is a math test or that school cafeteria didn't have pizza today

Insert a quote from a Skyrim dragon dude

>inb4 selfinsert incel retard chud
No u

>inb4 go play disco elysium or incel priest dnd disco elysium
Been there done that and what I propose is something new for the series

Thanks for reading my schizopost.
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>>748553146
Wasn't Namatame pretty successful as a politician before his scandal, though?

Also something that I always felt was weird was this dissonance between the message of go out, be social, and make friends, and the sociopathic ass-kissing that you have to do if you want to maximize the efficiency of the social mechanics. If you try to act like a real friend and risk conflict because you think it is what is in the best interest of your friend you will almost always be supoptimal or outright fail to progress, but enabling people's retardation will almost always give you max points in their S-link.
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>>748550473
>woman

It's an AI waifu
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>>748551628
That's from a memory when she was in like middle school or something you misinformation spreading liar.
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Mitsuru is the hottest Persona girl and one of the hottest vidya girls ever
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Mitsuru's age isn't what matters. What's important is that I would.
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>/v/ not beating the "hebe board" allegations
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>>748549034
persona 2 demake
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>>748553496
The image I posted by drawn by a real artist.
Obsessed.
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>>748549034
Sell 20 million copies and normify the series beyond recognition
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>>748549763
>>748553201
God I love big titties
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>>748549034
previous games' cameo like her in p4, that would really make them pog
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>>748553674
Who doesn't?
I mean, aside from gays and loli-lovers.
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>>748551721
h-hot...
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Mitsuru is objectively the best girl in the Persona franchise.
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>>748553430
Because JRPGs are meant to be for teenagers, and one of the maxims of P4 is not to end up like that. Once you're like that, you're cooked, man. There are some things you just don't come back from. IDK the game lets Namatame have a happy ending, so maybe there's a lesson there.

>>748553438
That's window dressing, but also not at odds with his presentation as a failed normie.

And I don't know that there's really dissonance there above and beyond technical limitations, most games just fail to capture socialization because its at odds with analytical mechanics. You can't classically condition a human beings, so until we have stochastic emulations of people (which I guess we do now, technically) it will be like that.

The real dissonance comes from those systems existing in a 120+ hour RPG, which I'm all but certain is part of the brilliance. It's a 120 hour experience trying desperately to shake you out of your shitty youth. Which makes discussions about it here much funnier, it's like everyone who missed the memo in one spot.
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>>748553658
You miss the point, it's not a real woman. Get a grip
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>>748549034
6.
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>>748553757
God, I want to have sex with this shy nerd girl so much, bros, it's unreal.
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>>748553146
Sometimes I wonder if the cynicism of this place gave way to people who are just misanthropes who hate all life and want to inflict as much suffering before killing themselves.

Because absolutely none of this is part of the Persona games, this is just a read for someone who hates them but still paradoxically goes here to discuss them.

>>748553968
>JRPGs are meant for teenagers
Most of the Persona games are 17+, 3, 4, and 5 all are.
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What's wrong with japanese writers?
I dnf'd P3 because they made the reveal about Yukaris dad 3 times in a row(with the characters acting equally shocked each time) and my aneurysm got too big to handle.
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>>748553512
So there are people that have actually played the game here.
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>>748553987
>moving the goalposts
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>>748549034
another teacher romance
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>>748555061
>nuh uh cuz i said so
>ESRB ratings
fpbp
impressively bad post
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>>748557930
>>748555061
Armchair psychology and Reddit spacing, too. Grim.
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>>748549034
Only a pool of women older than the mc for romance.
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>>748557930
>You don't have enough facts to disagree with me
>You also can't use real facts to disagree with me
>The games are just a hate letter to the fans, okay?

You're so mentally retarded no amount of reality will pierce your narcissism. I could tell you 15 years of development history for these games and you'll still find a way to pretend you're right.
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>>748558382
ugh more of the armchair psych bullshit
you didn't even try to make a point, you're acting like you know me personally over 4chan which is weird and cowardly, and the entire point you're responding to is literally just a summary of the three antagonist's personalities. you're fucking dense and useless outside of your containment zone. go back.
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>>748558382
>hate letter
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>>748558810
>Mottle and Bailey over the actual point
You're a disingenuous nigger mad he got called out, you're doing the same thing you're accusing me of doing and know nothing about what you're talking about. Your pet theory is wrong and you're the only person on earth who's ever thought a franchise that sells in the tens of millions is actually shitting on all the people who are buying it because that's delusional.
You can't even create a correct boogeyman other site I'm a tourist or raider from to tell me to go back from because you just want an excuse to insult me when you're wrong.

>>748559107
>google images filename while trying to insinuate someone isn't from 4chan
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>>748550787
>tartarus for 24 months
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More games need to let you date hags.
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>>748559245
The insinuation is that you're a weird stalker using psychology speak, clearly mad about some imagined grievance that goes deeper than the post.
There's a world of difference between making a point via the summary of the game's antagonists and just going "nuh uh you don't know what you're talking about nigger, the ESRB rating is 17+"

Maybe ease up on the black and white thinking and recognize the death of the author and you'll have an easier time recognizing that developers don't always love the players who play their games, and even if they do, such a message can easily come from kindness rather than a place of hate. The hate letter thing is such an obvious bit, by the way. You can do better not to slip.
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>>748559426
>Death of the author
If that's what you want to bring up then there's no discussion to be had with you. I'm sure you and your childhood trauma can find a way to bridge how P4 is a game about delusion and learning to live with a hard truth to how people playing P4 are retarded. But it's an objectively worthless take for anyone that's not you.

Also the developers of these games are the fans of these games. P4 and P3 weren't made by some MLB multi-million hundred man team, they put in Dating Sim mechanics because they liked them, they liked the girls and the high school power fantasy, the games aren't a 200 IQ inversion and critique of the genre that only you understood.
Why do you keep assuming shit when you don't know it? You just had this thought and knew it had to be right despite what the games actually are
>stalker
I was one step away from calling you narcissistic but it seems I was wrong to not do it.
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>>748559359
>27
I have taken psychological damage

"""Hags""" are now younger than me
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>>748559681
>more psychobabble
All you reveal with this shit is how much therapy you've needed to be normal.
>i was going to call you a narcissist
You literally can't remember what you posted two minutes ago>>748558382
and don't respect critical analysis unless the author explicitly intended it, you're not worth having a conversation with.

Even now when you're clearly putting some effort in, you're just saying "no, it's not, because the team wasn't a multi-million hundred man team" when in fact the budget was well into the millions is so dumb. You're everything you claim to hate.

Enjoy your last >you, my tragically unprepared grievance-seeker.
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>>748559932
>Uh, therapy therapy therapy therapy
>Stop calling me what I am I have mental problems but I DON'T HAVE A USERNAME you're not allowed to point out what I am you're not

Subjective analysis is objectively worthless, by definition, if all the conversations you want to have is about your subjective interpretations of art, one has to wonder what your conversations are even about. Do you just go up to someone else and keep speaking at each other how you feel with no reciprocity? Because that's the only kind of art analysis and critique you can manage to to pull off.

But no, it's not. You're wrong, and I told you multiple times. And you keep trying to ignore every single point I made because you know you're wrong and all you have to save your ego is trying to paint me as some weird fan of yours instead of someone telling you you're insane. But you haven't actually made a single point besides "well, it's what I think, so it doesn't have to be right for me to think it".
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>>748559857
not if you self insert as the 18 year old student
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>>748549034
>What's next for Persona?
Taimanin cross over
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>>748549107
Just get a switch 2 and play for an hour before bed
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>>748560310
>say therapy once after multiple psychobabble posts and you start sperging out
Yep, you're a freak.
I'm just sick of your psychobabble, that's all there is to that.
>I think it's possible to be objective in critical analysis of art
>I don't understand what intersubjective consensus is, or how you would argue toward it
You've made two actual points that aren't name-calling or telling me how you feel about how the author's words are super special:
1. The game is played by people 17+ because it has a 17+ ESRB rating
2. The game wasn't made by a multi-million dollar team.
One is laughable. Two is factually and demonstrably incorrect. https://lmgtfy.com/?q=persona+4+budget&iie=1
Where do you read anything resembling an actual argument in your posts?
Whereas I actually summarized the profiles of the antagonists, at the very least, you're just ranting on about how you're right in as many words as possible. You're sick, go get help and leave the boards out of it -- you've literally posted more about me than the game.
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>>748560337
That is a cope and I refuse to cope
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>>748549034
Shota mc with only J-cup female party members
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>>748560716
>Enjoy your last >you, my tragically unprepared grievance-seeker.
>Uh, but actually, I can't ACTUALLY let you have the last word in, so I'll keep replying!

No nigger, the game having a 17+ rating means it's not meant for teenagers, that's literally what it means. I'm sure you have the proof to tell me a 2008 game in Japan was actually having its CERO rating (not ESRB what do you know retard faggot). But 17+ means "we did not intend teenagers to be the target audience".

You're still doing the thing I accused you of doing, you skipped every single point I made to try and dismiss them.

>You've literally posted more about me than the game
Because persona 4 never has a fucking disclaimer saying "This game is not actually made to shit on the fans of our previous game that barely even exist as a group to us since we're literally scrambling our asses to get this shit out the door to avoid bankruptcy and it was barely a year after making 3 when we devised the idea for Persona 4 would be, so please don't get the wrong idea"
What fucking part of the game would I use to discredit that idea? It's beyond the realm of sensibility. You're so out of touch with reality you can't even see how far you've strayed from anything reasonable.

Can you stop projecting your delusions onto me already? This is getting tiring.
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>>748561124
>Woah, someone changed their mind!
>CERO Rating
The CERO rating for P4 and P4G is B...
Bruh moment.

You only made those two actual points. The rest is just rambling about how right you are and how delusional I must be.

You argue toward alternative explanations for the characterizations and incentives presented by the game, you absolute mongoloid. That's how normal people talk to each other about something they both like. They don't just come in swinging about how the other person is a "narcissist" for fuck's sake.

Take your grievances elsewhere and leave the boards out of it, especially if you don't even have the first clue what you're talking about.
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>>748561352
P4 and P4R are B. P4G is C. Probably for the summer stuff.
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>>748561352
>You can't call me fucking insane without giving me the MORE CORRECT CHARACTERIZATIONS

The fact that you keep harping on about characterizations like that's the thing I have issue on after I've literally called out your retarded fucking mottle and bailey tactic of hiding behind the objectively correct read of the characters when I keep criticizing your objectively insane logical thematic ""read"" of them shows you're too fucking retarded to have a discussion.

Also, like usual you have no arguments on anything, literally none. You just keep saying "you have no arguments" even though I've shown you how it's a completely logically impossible perspective of the developers and is not supported by anything in the game.

I don't have a clue about what? Your insane fucking read on these games? Obviously I don't, which is why I keep telling you you're retarded. You are not aligned with reality in the most obvious sense of the word.
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>>748561510
>objective
Why are you still using this word in relation to critical analysis? I'm bringing it up because it's the only sound argumentation that's been made about the game.

You were wrong about the budget, you were wrong about the rating, and now you're pivoting to some pathetic attempt to pretend you were always trolling, repeatedly throwing around words like "logical" and "objective" even though you're just restating "You're wrong and I'm right" in different words over and over.

Fucking lame.
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>>748561632
>even though you're just restating "You're wrong and I'm right" in different words over and over
I am in fact objectively restating "You're wrong and I'm right" because your retarded fucking nutcase of a brain can't accept reality that the Persona developers like the games and their players and have not, in fact, made a game to literally shit on them and their way of life.

Because that's insane. Objectively. And you've tried every single possible tactic to distract from that fact, but that won't make it any less true, or you any less wrong.
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>>748561748
>I've been wrong on every verifiable point I've made, but if I just keep restating my opinion, I can eventually pretend I'm just a troll!
Alright, we're done here. Take it off the boards and put it in a DM next time, coward.
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>>748561923
>Ignore points
>Ignore points
>Ignore points
>Uh why do you keep repeating your le self????
>Ignore points
>you are le coward for not giving me le argument

My initial statement was correct. You're so mentally retarded no amount of reality will pierce your narcissism
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hopefully its better than the dogshit that was persona 5
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>>748559857
me and you, bud
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>>748562024
What point was ignored?
You were wrong about the rating. You were wrong about the budget. You were wrong about objectivity being a goal in critical analysis.

What's left? You want to go take couple's counseling to clear up the mental health obsession you have?
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>>748562792
The point which is the point that I made that these games are not made to shit on the fans, you retarded troglodyte? The point on which the entire argument rests on? The fact that your entire read on the game is literally illogical and impossible?

That point? What I've been telling you is retarded for 30 posts and you've been ignoring?

Why do you keep saying you'll stop replying then chickening out? Is getting the last laugh in that important to you?
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>>748562886
What argument? You were wrong about every supporting statement you made, we've gone over that three times now. The statement that "the game is not made to shit on fans" has already been addressed in talking about the death of the author, and intersubjective consensus being the goal over objectivity.

So, what point is being skipped? It's all been addressed, and you were wrong in every instance. Not just wrong, but transparently uneducated.



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