recomps are bad actually
stop posting screenshots from other websites because you are afraid of confrontation and don’t want to say something to that person yourself
I literally don't care. If AI is going to ruin the world anyway and everything will go to hell then the least I can get out of a bad deal is recomps
>Actually my re/decomps are better because I didn't use AIUh, no was saying otherwise. What a weird thing to bring up unprompted, unless....
>>748633120>Has to say Majoras mask because the OoT one (that was considered the best for a lot of people) was discovered to be made by AILol
>>748633120>AI writes unreadable code>only way to actually fix errors is to spin the roulette wheel on claude and hope it fixes itgreat method there smart guy. Looking forward to recomps getting injected with malware soon.
Don't care, I can play the game can't I?
If it lets me play the game, then I genuinely don't fucking care otherwise
>>748633638You're mad at him but not the people making these threads?
>>748633120People are trying to play the game, not please YOU, faggot troon.
>>748633240I was saying otherwise. AI recomps are better because they are using AI.
Is kaze still holding his rewrite of sm64 hostage?
>>748633240I know this is bait but I'll answer it. There's nothing wrong with using AI for decomps/recomps IF there was something in place to prevent the AI from going haywire. Byte matching which you see in those 100% complete are good measurements because you know it's exactly the same as the original was, this still doesn't mean it's useful because you COULD just dump all the bytes of the original using a copy command and well there's an exact match but it wouldn't be "source code" because it's hard to read and it's not a "decomp". For a recomp a copy doesn't work because it's meant to be played on another platform so you need some way to translate that with that also requiring some way to verify that the thing does the same as it would on another platform, for most games eyeballing it what most vibecoders do is enough for them but 80/20 the last 20% is usually the most difficult and time consuming.There's varying degrees but with the new advent of AI and a lot of people who have never used a compiler before you get people with severe low standards producing low quality slop compared to people who had to before do the grunt work so they also set high standards because there wasn't any reason to do it any other way if you weren't going for that goal in the end.
>>748633768Those threads at least have their utility, meanwhile the retard watching out the catalog to spam his shitty pasta is a worthless jeet.
>>748633120Well yeah. AI was trained on stolen code. The rich stealing from the poor and selling it back to them is not a good thing.
>>748633272brutal kek
>>748634008>Those threads at least have their utilityYou having fake arguments with the people in the screenshots of the threads you post?
What the fuck is a recomp
>AI decomp>its made by a guy with little to no coding experience>literally just "claude decomp this game plox">if bugs show up "claude debug this plz">practically all of them are riddled with bugs anyways>guy who did the decomp doesn't know how to fix it>other competent programmers don't know how to fix it since the documentation is nonsense>other competent programmers don't want to waste their free time wiping someone else's ass anyways>anyone who knows what they are doing will see that [Game] has a decomp and never bother making one themselves>AIslop decomp sits there and rots while people just use the emulated version that has actual time and effort put into making it work>all so some faggot could have 5 seconds of internet fame as the guy who decomped [Game]
>>748634181AI is writing better code than most humans at this point and it’d excellent at reverse engineering. Soon you won’t even want to touch software that doesn’t involve AI.
get bent loserthanks for your code, but we'll take it from here
>>748634362he says this as the new ai vibe coded samsung launches and its buggy as shit and barely workingjust yesterday a vibe coded fridge (yes really) bricked itself and was unable to be fixedyou shiteaters are high on your own farts
>>748634362>most humansThe only issue people usually involved in making recomps/decomps before AI were already not most humans and already exceptionally skilled at what they were doing.Yes and AI will multiply their skill even more because that's what AI is and will be a multiplier for the already skilled.
>>748634181AI could be a useful tool paired with someone who actually knows what they're doing to clean it up and refactor it afterwards.but this "tool" will not lead to such results 99% of the time. and soon it'll become normal for the average "programmer" who grew up never having to think about their code to simply not understand how to do it anymore than the modern average programmer can write programs in assembly.
>>748633120>>>/twatter/
>>748634497shut up faggot
>>748633120, >>748633204. Stop being a coward.
>>748633204Stop copying and pasting someone else's post for the same reason
>>748634456That’s Samsung’s fault. If a guy fails to screw in the screws it’s not the screwdrivers fault it’s the lazy fuck holding it. Talented developers using AI are running circles around those who aren’t using it. Corporations will continue to put out low quality shit just like they did before AI.
>>748634497>The only issue people usually involved in making recomps/decomps before AI were already not most humans and already exceptionally skilled at what they were doing.Based on what evidence? Recompilation is simple but tedious work. You’re just reimplementing existing code. It’s a bunch of folx with too much time on their hands, not necessarily anyone with talent.
>>748633990Average Indian reading comprehension
>>748634008>Those threads at least have their utilityyeah to clog up the catalog even more
>>748634181>>748634528These nail it. There’s no shame in using AI as assistance, but flooding the internet with vibecoded recomps that don’t work and never will be fixed will only make it harder to find the ones that actually had effort put in them.
>>748634741forced meme
i think AI could be a great help to the scene but the people with the skills to use it effectively are staunchly anti-AI and the people willing to use it without abandon lack technical skill and just want the "clout" from making a decomp and the serotonin hit of feeling like they accomplished somethingin short: nothingburgers for all
>>748634649This metaphor doesn't work because AI's whole selling point is being overhyped to keep investor money flowing in while selling itself as literal magic that can do anything perfectly. The people making these AI tools are literally, LITERALLY saying it isn't a tool but a magic ambrosia for multiplying productivity 100x with 0 downsides.
>>748633120he's not wrong. The Wave Racer 64 had an earlier 'comp port that was total ass. Thankfully an actual one that's been worked on for months came out shortly after just so people wouldn't use the shit one.
>>748634649>heh I can use AI to do anything. I vibe coded a phone with it>your turd barely working>YEAH WELL ITS THAT GUYS WHO MADE IT FAULT AI CANT DO EVERYTHING YOU KNOW
>>748634413>thanks for your code, but we'll take it from herehttps://youtu.be/0B5w18dmbUI?t=39>>748634591Better luck next time.
There is only 1(one) good application for AI.
>>748635168>AIArtificial Insemination
>>748634823Are you on cross sex hormones?
>>748635196I will inseminate her 100% naturally.
>>748635230concession accepted
>>748633120Recomps made by people who know the ins and outs of the hardware: goodRecomps made by people who are vibe coding with layman knowledge and the vision of a short sighted retard: badMajority of new recomps are part of the second group
>>748635168>ai>its just tts with a guy running it and feeding it lines
>the decisionmakers in question
>>748634497>AI will multiply their skill even moreThat's exactly the point, though. "AI is writing bad code nobody can read (>>748634181)" is a meme propagated by techlets who never read let alone written a single line of code in their lives. Sure, now anyone can make slop, but if you're even just somewhat competent, you can actually use it to its full extent and speed up your work. As someone who's working in swe and was initially AI skeptical, I could significantly speed up my work with AI and I'm fairly sure it writes better code even without any babysitting than most juniors.
>new recoomps bad>new recoomps goodOk but has anyone posting here played through one? Or actually even tried playing? Or even just downloaded and tried launching?
>>748635472
>>748635668>this anon is wrong, AI will make better programmers better>anon's post is that shit programmers won't magically become good programmers with AI
>>748635668>cognition itself is now sold on a meter>you can now be more productive for your boss while having less negotiating power>you are now unable to command a high salary for your work and must accept lower compensation or look for a new job>if you are a junior you are now unable to find a job at allthis is the end result this technology and people like you want to help it along just to own the libs.
The conversation on AI feels like it forever solidified with GPT3.5 (the original release of ChatGPT) or maybe GPT4o. Both the antis and a significant number of the supporters seem to have never even glanced at GPT6-Astra or Claude Opus 5.5, or realized that the labs have internal models at least a full generation ahead of those.
>>748635168>>>/vt/ranny
>>748636019>GPT6-Astra or Claude Opus 5.5Both require paid accounts which the overwhelming majority of people don't and will never have.
>>748635168AI basically killed all of that repulsive Daz3D porn overnight, so it's not all bad.
>>748635168>ERP, hasn't gotten any better, in fact it has gotten WORSE since character ai release in 2022>AI Porn, hasn't gotten any better since NovelAI first release, only gets updates for new characters>AI Music is still shit and will only get worse after Universal threatens Suno and all future music gen websites>AI Movies are still shit and only aunts watch the chinese dramas and fruit gore. Any good youtube channel that blows up will have its content stolen by content farms. >Pretty much all social media is full of content farms now, algos are at its worst they've ever been.>Only neurosama, the guy who makes AI videos of fictional games that I forgot but he made that gta in india vid and the gow laufey dishwasher vid, are the only ones that make good AI content in a sea of shit>99.9% of vibecoded apps are claude or openai proxies>99.9% of vibecoded games are just expensive assetflips>99.9% of AI Bros are Indians making benchmarks, SEAmonkeys scamming people posing as real comissioning artists online, or alt right boomers making retarded political images in facebookI'm still waiting for AI to actually make anything worth of value.
>>748633120AI recomps and decomps suck yes. kys if you disagree
>>748636019All that graph shows is that gdp is fake and gay
>>748633120>seething trannies furious they can't gatekeep anymore
>>748635282Your posts are histrionic. So I guess it's a yes
>>748636368>ERP, hasn't gotten any betterI disagree
>>748636502>>748635790
>>748633904Didn't he say that he would release the source with his game, and then people could implement whatever into SM64 if they wanted to?
>>748633120
>>748636368>99.9% of AI Bros are IndiansYou don't have to tell me twice, but during the stone age...
>>748633238>ruinonly if you're a lazy faggot who thinks typing some shit at a desk = contributing to societytime to learn some real skills and do some real workeven fast food wagies do more than youTHE GRAVY TRAIN IS OVER CS FAGGOTS LMAO
Make an even better one without AI and I'll use it. The idea that the user should care whether a working free port was made with AI or not is absurd.
>>748636669Yeah guess a public repo would be too much stress or something
>>748636617>retard couldn't even go 2 posts without resorting to "ur a tranny >:(" cope
>>748636732yeah, get a real non-automated job like working at a factory-oh wait, or farming-oh wait, or a job as a cashier-oh wait...
>>748633120trannies are so fucking fragile, kek
>>748635768I'm playing through the recent Blue Dragon recomp, it's really good after a few patches. Waiting for Lost Odyssey to get arbitrary framerate support to try that one too.
>>748636019what transcendence do LLM's actually offer though, how much more efficient at abstract information processing do we need to get? What civilization defining problems are there that aren't bottlenecked by real world testing?
>>748636771exactly. quit being lazy and make a better one by hand if you think that's possibleI'll play the one that actually works and is out in the meantime, DM when you're done>but-but... it sucks up all the lightning and discourages devs from working on itthen just fuck off and die. stop whining
There is LITERALLY nothing wrong with using AI for code.Coding occasionally some creativity (blah blah fast inverse square root etc.) but for the most part is busywork slop.AI for code is like a factory for producing aluminum cans. You're not going to hand make that shit. If you're making something intricate you should have enough knowhow to catch mistakes but even before AI companies have been releasing bug-filled unoptimized slop and having security breaches so not much will change.AI art is the thing people should rightfully reject for being slop
>>748633638There goes my hero
>>748633272source?
>>748636994Ask chatgpt
>>748636771But most of these games already have emulated versions that are a lot better than these decomps?
>>748636953Yeah, I don't disagree that it would be better to have a more thoroughly tested one. But we don't, so I'll work with what I have. If the real argument is "but the only reason why I would do it myself is to be the first to do it" then tough shit but I do not care.
>>748633120It's not like the code of the ancient game you're attempting to decompile is going to change and if it was inaccurate it'd be very noticeable.
>>748633120AI tools aren't leading to the quality deficit, lack of dedication is. You get someone using it without AI tools and you know they're serious about the project. You get someone with a $20 Claude plan who's enthusiasm lasts a week at most, and you're gonna get a bare bones ship with little to no support or follow-up work.
>>748633904Yes, he's milking his Patreon for it hard. That's he did a second round of nebulous polish on his own hack, he was stalling for time. What a broke bitch kek
>>748636965Art is no different from code. Good code is art and AI code should be rejected the same way.
>>748633272and OoT has been broken since day one but it was the only thing out there so people kept coping and downplaying every issue it had
>>748633768The threads that should be taken care of by mods? Yes, they should be pruned.They should also actually ban shitposters but it's not like it matters, the people running the site don't give a shit if it's filled with bots.
>>748636879So you admit you're a clueless retard who doesn't know how to do anything. Real men know how to fix everything and are always in demand. It takes so much robotics to replace a good mechanic. If you cant walk into autozone or home depot and use almost everything there then it's time to start yesterday. You're welcome, pussy. Now chop chop, soft hands.
>>748637047If the emulated version is better then I'll keep using the emulated version. It's not like I'm forced to use a subpar one. If a good enough recomp does come out I'll use it. AI or not. It's a problem that self regulates.
>>748637076>AI tools aren't leading to the quality deficit, lack of dedication is. You get someone using it without AI tools and you know they're serious about the project. You get someone with a $20 Claude plan who's enthusiasm lasts a week at most, and you're gonna get a bare bones ship with little to no support or follow-up work.>>748636953It's just a higher chance it'll be slopped then released and never fixed up again because the vibeslopped moved on to new shiny. So as gamers we all suffer.
>>748633238AI isn't going anywhere, it's only going to be applied to more and more of every day life. Time to suck it up and stop being a pussy
>>748633120Anyone with a brain knows all the recomps were AI. I am not downloading anything these slop peddlers create. nigger
>>748637110Works great on my machine. 4k 240 fps
>>748635168I agree
>>748637143post income
>>748634181>>748634528>AI decomp of some long forgotten game>it just werks>some retard faggot tranny crying in my ear how it's literally hitler and bad and evil>it took attention away from him because he could have totally maybe potentially made a better version if I had just joined his discord and sucked his e-dick for a couple of monthsGod bless AI
>>748637096Code is a lot closer to math and algebra, and while you have to have some amount of understanding to prevent spaghetti some of the code is really just already solved and having AI help you with the busywork is good. Decomps happen to be 95% busywork and having an AI interpret the boring parts isn't so bad if the end result is properly filtered and bugfixed in the end.Software is shifting a lot more into CI/CD, Design and cyber sec.
>>748637080i mean in hes position anyone would do the same as himif you have product to sell and people pay for it then you can sell it until it stops sellingi would make that bank too
>>748633238>bad dealAI is literally going to help me run this new small business by cutting out the useless desk job woman and save me time and money. If you're on /v/ you should have a gaming PC already which means you can use it for local hosting llm inference engine + database + harness and start your small business. This is the golden time to get started before tokens cost what theyre actually supposed to cost. More stable opportunity to make money than the crypto craze. Stop being a dumbass and use the best digital tool ever created. Tech literate anons should be the last people on earth crying about AI.
bros its just like i remember it from my childhood>put thing through sludge machine and don't even test itthat's the biggest fucking issue here, AIniggers do not even care to test their garbage before shipping it off
>>748637143Post browner than my shit
>>748637047Proper decomps have their uses too. They're needed to change various hardcoded values and functions or to fix bugs that couldn't be addressed by mods.
>>748637367Not if thats the kind of gratitude you'll show to someone giving you good advice. Fuck off then and stay behind.
>>748637383>it just werksI checked in on a thread about some pokemon AI decomp and the thread was just bitching about fucked up audio ruining the game 5 minutes in.
>>748633990Thanks for your input AquaAnon
I don't give a shit how the recomp was made as long as it's good and I've seen enough dogshit recomps done both ways. The Bomberman 64 one (no AI) is particularly offensive because the fucking retard that did it didn't properly implement multiple controller support so multiplayer is effectively unusable and he never fixed it.
>>748637468>AIniggers do not even care to test their garbage before shipping it offno way the same people who can now sort of make slop because of lower reqs make lower quality slop
>>748636940Well for one the AIs will get real world testing capabilities, and they will be better and quicker at it than us. The robots are coming, and labs everywhere are getting more automated by the day. And a sufficiently advanced intelligence can greatly reduce the meatspace testing needed, although admittedly not to zero.
>>748637497you weren't giving good advice. just catty venom.
>>748637468If they couldn't be bothered to write code it's obvious they wouldn't test it either.I'm sure decent ones will come from this but it'll be another year or two.
how stupid can you be to think the country would be fine if every man was in trades lol
>>748637392And art is just copying real life to the point 3D models can replicate it. Art has been solved for decades while math and coding is still a mess.
The real white whale of decomps is Sims 3 (or Spore) idk why nobody has done it yet.
>>748637583There's like 20 of these released and shilled on /v/ every single day, by the time the "decent ones" arrive you'll have 5000 variants every day and nobody will give enough of a fuck to find out which ones are good and which ones aren't.
>>7486352832nd group shitters waste their time and money on tokens at the worst case, am i overlooking something? making sound like a plague is gonna sweep the planet if this keeps going. let's not bullshit ourselves this is just envy that normies can now do the special skills autists thought was theirs all this time.
>>748637497>doesn't post income>stay behindoof lad I have bad news for you...
>>748637486Keep seething, soft hands. Should have learned how to fix things and be useful instead of art, coding or web design. Gravy train is OVER. Tradegods can now use AI for our own businesses and cut you lazy desk "workers" out.
>>748637501>Pokemonjust use an emulator, those games stopped being worth playing when the 3DS came out
>>748633120Counterpoint: these ones don't take literal years to (not) be released, for an all ready widely available thing. It also doesn't require a certain percentage of users to be guilt-tripped into funding someone's patreon/online mental illness club.
>>748637576You wont make it with that attitude, pussy.
>>748633120Here's the thing: I don't care. Recomps are what are allowing the best version of Deadly Premonition, the original 360 version, to live beyond its limited release compared with the half a dozen godawful ports that have done nothing but tarnish the game's image as something that was broken all along (it wasn't, it's just received utterly dogshit re-releases from the get go) we've gotten since. Recomps are what are letting me play Case Zero and Case West for Dead Rising 2 on PC because they're a prologue/epilogue that only ever released on XBLA fifteen years ago. These are great things for vidya 'preservation', even if it's just virtually. Are they probably made via slop AI spaghetti code? Sure. Is it better than the alternative, which is nothing at all? You can bet your ass.
hot take:I don't care how it was made, I just want to play good gamessorry if that gets coders panties in a twist
>>748637431Ok but a small business in what fieldAnd what kind of small business can I start that AI would help me with
>>748637643Are you retarded? Not an insult but a genuine inquiry
>>748637583>If they couldn't be bothered to write code it's obvious they wouldn't test it either.This is an immensely retarded thing to say. Doing this by hand, especially alone, would take at least months, but probably years.
>11 days old tweet
>>748634628How do you know it isn't the same autist posting on every twitter thread.
>>748637663>bad newsThat you got fired? Sucks to be you. Hahaha.
>>748637736>nothing at allDamn if only emulators existed
>Oh, cool, a new recomp of my favorite game!>Checks the /issues page>50 open
>>748634008Advertising twitter accounts is not utility.
>>748637468>AIniggers do not even care to test their garbage before shipping it offThey don't have an analytical eye, and that's why they'll spam rule34 w/ 60 different variations of one prompt because they're all 'good enough, right?' desu.
>>748633638See it's that easy, now just leave out the screenshot
>>748637736>Is it better than the alternative, which is nothing at all?no.
Ironically I've seen the newbies who use AI to vibe decomp/recomps actually gatekeep more because they feel powerful now.
>>748637670you talk like a retard
>>748637756those games do not have their sourcecode released afaikinb4 you reply with another vague post devoid of content
>>748633120This post reeks of Judaism
>>748637963>AIfags are just losers who want to fuel their undeserved egosThe irony that AIfaggots behave 1:1 like twatter artists is not lost on me.
>>748637704You're right. The streets will never be paved in gold so we should cover them in shit instead. At least the shit will arrive on time.
Modern gaming is becoming a better and better proposition every day. The poors and browns are filtered. No AI garbage. Retro gamers are literally subhuman poojeets.
>>748637736>godawful ports that have done nothing but tarnish the game's image>These are great things for vidya 'preservation',>Is it better than the alternative, which is nothing at all?
>>748637743In any field where most of the work is physical and technical but still needs the usual office work. Like electrician or mechanic shop. Let AI handle the invoices, parts, returns, payroll, taxes, customer history, insurance, etc. Most trades guys dont have energy for all that tedious office work and have no choice but to outsource it to people and pay them salaries. AI is way cheaper. Hell yeah. Love AI.
>>748638017>No AI garbage.In modern gaming?
>>748638007Don't tell that to artists, they'll have a melty being labeled no better than their enemies.
>>748633120just finished ship of hark and it was ludo kino
>>748633120Translation: I not getting attention for my overprecise project that took five years and thousand hours of tedious labor
>>748633120shut your faggotass uphe is just mad nobody is going to worship him for his mediocre shit hacking efforts KEKget fucked nigger
>>748637967Work on your bait. You should at least be good at that if you're going to be unemployed. Hahaha
>>748638067Yep. Name the game. You can't. Meanwhile all the faggots telling you to play old games can't go a single fucking day without this poojeet spam about recomps.
>>748638063crazy how the people obsessed with black and jeets taking their jerbs suddenly stop caring when grok starts taking people's jobs. the economy is going to shit make no mistake.
>>748637828360 emulators are ass. And the PS3 version of Deadly Premonition is already downgraded from the original 360.
>>748638114>>748638118Good morning
>>748638063>Let AI handle the invoices, parts, returns, payroll, taxes, customer history, insurance, etcOH SHIT YOU'RE SERIOUSHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA>Mr. Smith your tax return this year makes no fucking sense, you owe us $44k>B-BUT I SAVED ON A TAX AGENT
>>748633120is it actual decomps? some people have been saying it's just injecting emulator code into the roms
>>748638125what's your opinion on Roblox?
>>748636368>It's only extremely good instead of perfect
>>748638063If AI is making everything cheaper, why is everything not cheaper?
>>748638274>why dont we just print more money lel
>>748638052The AI recomp of Deadly Premonition is infinitely better than the human ports it received, even with mods. The native PC version is a crash fest that was never fixed to this day.If you go as far as defending that piece of shit over the vibe coded recomp, nobody will listen to you in the more reasonable cases where you do actually have a point. You come off as a flat earther if you even deny the clear cut cases.
On the one hand I feel bad for the OG decompers. They at least gate kept their dumb autistic hobby because it was brutally difficult and challenging. However, it's objectively good that we have coding agents that can do what they're doing without some poor fucking retard having to waste their life to do it.The DISGUSTING thing to me is that the entire point of AI dominance was that you were supposed to remove your ego from the equation. And instead we've seen AI users fall into the same hole as the people that they've replaced. Hopefully they'll learn in time, namaste.
>>748633446Then you should care, since most of those AI recomps are done by clueless vibesloppers who only do them for YT clips and then immediately abandon them in unfinished state.
>>748638219>some people have been saying it's just injecting emulator code into the romsanother issue you brought up the aishitters dont know the difference so they will just claim its a decomp KEK
>>748637468>AIniggers do not even care to test their garbage before shipping it offthey don't have the capability
>>748638219A lot of the 360 recomps use emulator to run the GPU and recompile the CPU so that the actual bottlenecks in emulation can be solved. It sounds gay so I never tried even one of those, but they do all tend to replace the emulator pass with native rendering a few months later, so that's when I bother trying them.
>>748633120Shut up and go back to making another second monitor white noise video about the minute quirks of a 25 year console and how they save you one cycle and a bit in your never ever game my dood.
>>748637817Sadly nobody is that based.
>>748638320I just found it amusing you claim it's 'better than nothing at all', while completely dismissing preexisting examples, because it doesn't fit your arbitrary metrics on what's acceptable. Work on that.
I talked to someone who studied game development and when I mentioned I dont really have any idea how coding works he very openly endorsed I use Chatgpt.
>>748637817because dogshit xitter screencap threads annoy more people than you think
>>748638150There are too many freeloaders and retards who survived only learning how to do one thing. AI will force people to learn how to be competent again. Clients are always wishing there were more people like me. Lots of shit could get fixed faster. Lots of stuff could get installed and built faster. It's time soft hand faggots. Get your hands dirty :)>>748638198>im just gonna r-ragebait you since im madHahaha. Stay mad.
>>748636368It will never happen because it's a calculator trying to use a paint brush or strum a guitar. This fundamental disconnect of ability and function can never be bridged. And if you're not immediately disgusted by AI slop, you're fucked as a human being. >>748636628Because you're a braindead poojeet. Stop giving your opinions on what is good or bad. If you like anything generated by AI, your brain is broken. I know you think what you posted is impressive. It's not. It's shit.
>>748638386>they don't have the capabilityThey don't have the capability to play the game?
>>748638450>"studied" game developmentkek
>>748638365>And instead we've seen AI users fall into the same hole as the people that they've replaced. Hopefully they'll learn in time, namaste.I remember /v/ being flooded with threads laughing about twitter artists with undeserved egos being raped by AI. Then the AI faggots turned around and behaved exactly like the twitter artists. The same undeserved ego, the same petty bullshit slapfights, the same fighting over who owns what character. They were the same exact kind of person the entire time.
>>748638274What? Im using AI to make money for myself, not to charge you less lmao. If you were smart you wouldnt ask retarded questions and start doing the same.
>>748638652Sure you are, poojeet.
>>748637392this. code is already solved, this isn't the 90s anymore. everybody just ctrl+c's from stack overflow or copies shit from a library for 99% of their code anyway
>>748638365>Hopefully they'll learn in timeThat's just short-lived though because a lot of people are still in the contrarian phase and even those interested are often not willing to pay for an AI subscription. Once this tech becomes completely normalized and open source models catch up doing stuff like recomps will be like using MS Office. Nobody will give a shit and there won't be any ego in it.
>>748638439I'm not the same guy, the nothing at all means not having a working PC version, which was the previous state. A vibe coded recomp is way better than that. A human recomp would be even better but doesn't exist.
>>748638161This game looks like shit. Who cares.
>>748638729Kek. Keep seething.
>>748638521nta, but are you sure you just lack writing creativity to give you good ERP replies? That kinda helps.I suggest writing some fanfiction as practice.
>>748638521>Because you're a braindead poojeet. Stop giving your opinions on what is good or bad. If you like anything generated by AI, your brain is broken. I know you think what you posted is impressive. It's not. It's shit.
>>748633120>bro is mad that an AI can do what he’s been doing for 10 years almost as well in 10 minutes. If the game hits 60 and has a 16:9 screen patch and modern controller support, I don’t care how it’s made
>>748638916>nice green text bro
>>748638916>If the game hits 60 and has a 16:9 screen patch and modern controller support, I don’t care how it’s made
give me an actual reason why i shouldn't find a chink ai, hook it to ghidra, and wait until it slops out a playable build of this obscure game i like with 16:9, m+kb support and framerate not tied to the engine
>>748638150actual job providers dont care who or what replace jobs, as long as cheaperconservative poorfags have no brains
>>748638803>I'm not the same guyOkay. Then please direct your replies towards somebody actually interested in having that conversation.
>>748639023you wont
>>748638848I suggest killing yourself. How the fuck are you proud of ERPing with a fucking chatbot in the first place you fucking loser?
>>748633120ai shit should be labeled as such
>>748638971>thanks man
>>748633120better than being stuck on a single project for years because of feature creep and finding out how to save three femtoseconds on audio pipeline rendering or whatever
i dunno guys i think i'll trust the guy who rewrote most of super mario 64 for performance gains on real hardware over the guy who runs the r/recomp subredditmost people batting for recomps conflate them with source-code ports on purpose when that's literally not what they are, emulators are also recompilation programs. if you have a vested interest in not labeling your shit as AI-made then you are not doing it in good faith and there is no arguing this point
>>748638372so why does it matter? might as well not have happened
>>748639023Chinese models aren't independently capable enough to be used by a nocoder for bigger projects. You want a real frontier model for that.
>>748638916I guess you care since>game hits 60 and has a 16:9 screen patch and modern controller supportrequires modification of the game which requires understanding of code.
>>748636732The gravy train is still going faggot.I just don't have to know as much, type a lot less, and spend my days on 4ch now.The gravy train will stop soon but not yet, and I'm riding it until the wheels fall off. Unfortunately your "real man" jobs will never pay enough unless you start with real capital to start your own business. Once my gravy train ends, I'll probably start woodcrafting/baking/whatever bullshit those hipster upper middle class retards buy at those town fairs and just subsist off of retarded rich people's scraps.>>748637143I can already use most things in home depot. Fuck autozone, those are just fancier wrenches and newer cars are gay as fuck to work on - all prefabbed interconnected one-dent-and-done unibodies and shit. Soon (or already) it won't be worth knowing how to do most of that and most car mechanics couldn't fabricate let alone build a car, and most cars aren't even made to be repaired anymore.
>>748638521>>748639084Well that mask slipped off pretty fast now didn't it.Now you'll criticize anons for jorking it to Misty from Pokemon.
>>748639209It's part of AI companies shilling their chatbots before the IPO.
>>748633120Kaze is salty about all those hours he could have spent doing other things kek
>>748639228i saw somebody in one of these recomp threads list f-zero x as a game improved by running at 60 through the magic of recompsf-zero x already runs at 60 on native hardware
>>748639320If he could he would.Autism is a really debilitating condition.
bros a redecomp just flew over my housebros i just recorded gameplay of a game i played uhfhfh i mean i just redecomped the entire game in a single dimensional rift into a youtube video which you can "play" on my youtube channel?>thats not a redeocomp!!wym the story plays the same as the original OMG ARE U ACCUSING ME OMG IITS A REDECOEMP IM SAYING IT IS WYM ITS LOWERING THE PERCEPTION OF MY REDEOCEPM ???? ITS A REDEOCMEP I SAY IT IS!!
>>748639084AI ERPs better than most people. But it can't ERP better than people who are good at ERPing. Which is kinda AI in a nutshell in all creative fields.
>>748639320i imagine not since LLMs aren't useful for anything he's doing, full scale engine rewrites and full rewrites of audio and computational engines to try and eke one more frame per second out of a specific gamehe's not exactly doing source code decompilations, one of LLMs' actual legitimate uses in the context of old video games, where the goal is a clearly defined "produce notated source code for this game that, when recompiled, matches the MD5 hash of the original rom"
>>748639319so? you don't know how to filter ads?
>>748639347Maybe it's Anthropic/OpenAI bots themselves doing those half-assed recomps and posting YT videos about them?Would be kinda impressive, just in an ultimately useless way (which is typical for current AI).
>>748639320It's the same everywhere. Luddites are all people angry about obsolescence. Well tough shit, we live in a capitalist society. If you go out of demand, you have to admit to other trades to continue making money. Boohoo!
>>748638063Your customer retention would fucking plummet if you did this. AI is frustrating and patronizing to communicate with for most people. It also makes mistakes that your customers will have no sympathy for. The only companies that can get away with using AI for direct communication are the giant ones you have no choice but to use. Your business will just bleed out.There's a place for AI but you literally suggested the worst places. If you don't have someone babysitting that AI it will fuck everything up. You're an AI enthusiast completely overestimating its current abilities.
>>748633120AI slop recomps are
>>748639236If you're not larping then you're like my friend, who likes using AI and has a cushy tech job already and doesnt have to get through any gatekeeping. Why are you screeching at me then? Dumbass.
>>748638439>because it doesn't fit your arbitrary metrics on what's acceptableAnon you idiot, DP's ports all blow gigantic ass to the point even a vibe coded AI slopjob is automatically better, yes. That simply goes to show how BAD all its official ports are.https://youtu.be/5iGDAP8wX7A?t=2987
>>748639617no it's a bit more pathetic than that, "video game esoterica" is one of the most common recomp shill channels and he's also the owner of the subreddit for game recomps. it's a snake oil salesman advocating for as much of it to get pumped out as possible for subreddit clicks and youtube views. there's money involved
>>748633204This.
>>748639634My customer retention is just fine since I never said Im using AI for customer service. My labor is the service. You retards still dont get it.
here's one from /o/ https://github.com/kitaaaaaa/carmadroid-x86"this is a port of the Android version of Carmageddon 1, which itself is not actually a port of DOS C1 but an entirely new game based on an early version of the Carmageddon Max Damage engine that uses improved car models and maps developed for the cancelled Gizmondo port of C1. touch controls have been replaced with xbox gamepad support and the game can now render at 1920x1080."
>>748633120Recomps are glorified emulation slop
>>748639634yea a big part of why LLMs are normie repellent is they talk to you like a middle-management toady and not a person, board room shit is incredibly offputting to anybody that's lived outside of a board room in their lives. it's also why a lot of culture warriors look and sound fucking insane even if they might have a legitimate concern, when three-letter acronyms and business terms start flying around they look and sound like middle managers, and NOBODY likes middle managers. it makes you sound smart and fluffs up your ego to try and talk like a weasely manager but it makes you incredibly offputting
>>748639767https://github.com/kitaaaaaa/carmadroid-x86/commits/main/kek these jeets can't figure out how to use git even with chatgpt saar's help
>>748634528This problem already exists and there are already people vibe code entire projects and don't understand what is going on in them at all.Using AI as an assistance tool is incredibly useful, be it to look for things, pull information out of dense documentation, provide something to bounce ideas off easily, generation of simple code snippets, and a million other things.But it doesn't solve the problem of software development.I think the big issue that is cropped up now is the conflation between the "engineering" and the programming, a lot of people have conflated programming the with the actual act of the large scale design of what you are making, very little actual design goes into small programs as mistakes and missteps you need to fix are not really an issue and you can trivially hold the whole thing in your head to have a cohesive vision.But when you are working on something larger this is very different and you need to consciously make design decisions that impact the entire project and are days-weeks of work to change later down the line (if not more in some cases), and AI can't really do this (at this point) and its where it really breaks down.AI is pretty good at programming trivial small sections, and if that is all you are doing then yeah, its solves that problem, but it doesn't solve the large design issues you still need to make and work with when actually making something that isn't a trivial half an hr program.
>>748639418It's slowly getting there, especially for fields that have good returns on time spent. So ERP might take a while since that wants good speed and conciseness but Opus 5.5 is getting close to saturating my personal benchmarks for 3D modeling.
>>748639634>the worst placesNot only illiterate but a brainlet. Whatever, it's your loss. Don't be jealous of others who started earlier like those content creators who started YT channels early and made it. Years later your situation is on you for failing to read and think.
>>748633120who cares?people are doing it for free and they are good enough.If that's some how good enough for you either don't play it or guess what? study you as off and make the recompilation yourself, what's stopping you?you clearly don't care enough otherwise you had done it by now.
soulless human made games :|literal soulless AI made game :O
>>748639909I agree saarcow dung is free and good enough meal for me, no need for real food
>>748633120star wars zero has a blatantly AI mod manager and its better than all those modder and emu fags have made for like 2 decades.
>>748633120better a slop recomp than nocomp
>>748633120The only reason these people give a shit is always about money, some literal who can just get AI to push a recomp/decomp into working for pennies and these grifters lose thousands because they live off their patreon tugboat
>>748640063i would rather no EXE recomp because it means some useless fat shit doesn't get his five seconds of fame for being the intrepid hero that vibe-codes a buggy fire emblem port, i will stick with emulators and their own recompilation
>tfw no ogre battle 64 decomp with a difficulty modFeels bad man...
>>748638550Most of these people don't even like the games they're making recomps for. It's entirely about the chase and prestige.The same thing is happening in game translation. We're getting a wave of context-less AI translated slop with no actual editing just so people can say (insert game here finally translated)
>>748640325It's the shitty MTL doujins that flood Exhentai but for video games and I hate it.
>>748640268Do it yourself, that is literally the whole point of this thread. Buy a Claude subscription and it'll do most of the research on its own.
>>748640364Buy an ad, kike.
>>748633120AI is GOOD if you're not retardedI was able to get astra to develop a dll-based mod for simpsons hit and run which adds subtitles for every single voiceline in the game including gags.I'm looking forward to adding subtitles for GTA pedestrian dialogues
>>748640363The sheer amount of Super Robot Wars AI translations that have popped up recently is depressing. How do these people think MTLing a visual novel crossover series where every fucking show has its own unique terminology is a good idea?These projects are just begging for actual people who know what they're doing to go in and do a large-scale second pass but at that point why even bother with the AI bullshit
>>748640364Jokes on you it now literally flags it as unsafe cyber research and blocks you from doing anything. That's why people use Codex instead, but that's getting increasingly more restricted too.
>>748640603>These projects are just begging for actual people who know what they're doing Sooo... Where are they? For all this complaining no one seems to be actually doing anything.
>>748639320Kaze will spend a week on an extremely autistic micro optimization to save 1 micro second on rendering. I don't think he gives a shit about AI.
>>748633638since when are faggot anon so mad at people making fun of other ? next you will post the bikini and yukata schizo ?
>>748633120man's just mad he wasted years of his life on something a dunce could have achieved with a few bucks and a basic prompt today
>>748639347Even devs are illiterate about framerates. Blue Dragon is fully human made and the framerate unlock simply did not work at launch and not a single dev or test noticed. It had to be released for random people to try and say "this is clearly still 30fps."It was quickly fixed, but still surprising it made it to 1.0 at all.
>>748639320He's salty because his patreon money is at risk not from using copyrighted materials from Nintendo but some guy can use AI to put him out of a job "recomping" old ass Nintendo games but it's okay because there's retards out there that will donate to him to "own the AI chuds" so he'll be fine
>>748638274Cool it with the antisemitism, okay?
>>748635168/thread
>>748639320Dude is ripped as fuck and has a decent gf all while exploring the depths of his autistic passion. I don't think he's wasted anything in his mind.
>>748639681I do not disagree that the ports are dogshit, but you need to format your argument in such a way, that you're not contradicting the closing statement, with the very basis of your argument. You're making an appeal to the merits of video game preservation, while at the same time, dismissing something that doesn't adhere to your standards, and vaunting AI recomps as the superior option. But then, you admit that AI isn't perfect, and you've run into an issue>You're critical of one thing, because of the faults>You're claiming one thing is better, because there are no alternatives>But then you admit there are faults with your preferred systemYou've put forth information, that there ARE alternatives, and they're both flawed in different ways. To an audience you're trying to convince, you stumble on your own argument in the opening post. Insults, and non sequitur comparisons to flat-earthers doesn't help, either, but that's besides the point.
>>748637110>OoT has been broken since day oneAnd yet it was good enough for Zelda speedrunners who are the most autistic about this shit
>>748640724good image for this thread because im able to mess around SO3 maps for the first time thanks to AI
>>748641002he also works for the hat in time guys.
>>748640665Skill issue, mine mods games just fine. It's all about how you frame it so it doesn't think you'll get Anthropic sued.
>>748640893i don't think he's hurting for patreon money when he has nearly 2000 members, his lowest tier is $5/mo., and there's only any incentive to join at all if you're interested in the technical aspect of his ROM hack developmentthough you also think recomp sloppers are going to "put him out of a job" so i'd be pretty impressed if you believed literally anything you wrote
>>748640198What fame? Who the fuck knows the name of a single person who made a recomp with AI?
>>748638305This but unironically.
>>748641091so then why do they do it if not for clout, since almost all vibesloppers who shit a recomp out onto github vanish from the face of the planet afterwards
>>748640865Not surprising if you ever worked in game industry.I was working on a game for a year, never played it once.
>>748641005Holy midwit
>>748633120why should i, as the user, care that AI was used to create something that is entertaining me for free? answer this question or stop making threads
>>748633120Doesn't this dude just make YouTube videos? Where is his SM64 rewrite source code?
>>748641181what entertainment value is there in the programming equivalent of cocomelon
>>748640893Why hasn't Nintendo arrested him yet?
>>748641234video game is fun
>>748641246play non-vibed version of game on emulator
>>748641281Why? the recomp is better
this autist is just mad nobody needs him anymore. such a big fat dick faggot
>>748641234there is no entertainment in the programming, i don't care about that as the user, i care about being able to play old games natively in 60+ fps with resolution options, why should I care if an AI helped someone accomplish this? if you don't have an answer to this question, stop making threads
>>748641306is it, now?
>>748634181And yet it's still better than what anime retards like you can come up with, so what does that say, really? Nobody cares how it was made if it works.
>>748641340thiswe're watching all the little special snowflakes who wasted their life learning code get btfo
>>748641378Yes, clearly
>>748633638>>748633768>>748636981>>748640789>>748637935That's a bot.
>>748641349>i care about being able to play old games natively in 60+ fps with resolution options, why should I care if an AI helped someone accomplish this?you aren't doing anything an emulator doesn't already, hell if opening an emulator for the vast majority of the same options was "too much work" and you're really that intent on excusing AI being involved in the process you're sort of making the argument that you're the dumbest human being alive and entombed in an iron lung and you need all the help you can getit's not native. it's recompilation. it's still an emulator. yes emulators are also recompilation. what did you think "dynarec" or "dynamic recompiling" meant
>>748639320tale as old as time never put all your eggs in one basket
>>748634181>all so some faggot could have 5 seconds of internet fame as the guy who decomped [Game]Zoomniggers are abhorrent creatures and they don't work for e-peen points or have any honor, these are not the same kind of people that used to crack or hack for the love of sport like we did. They do it to unironically build a portfolio, JEET nigger behavior. Zoomniggers are abhorrent creatures and they don't work for e-peen points or have any honor, these are not the same kind of people that used to crack or hack for the love of sport like we did. They do it to unironically build a portfolio, JEET nigger behavior. Zoomniggers are abhorrent creatures and they don't work for e-peen points or have any honor, these are not the same kind of people that used to crack or hack for the love of sport like we did. They do it to unironically build a portfolio, JEET nigger behavior. Zoomniggers are abhorrent creatures and they don't work for e-peen points or have any honor, these are not the same kind of people that used to crack or hack for the love of sport like we did. They do it to unironically build a portfolio, JEET nigger behavior. Zoomniggers are abhorrent creatures and they don't work for e-peen points or have any honor, these are not the same kind of people that used to crack or hack for the love of sport like we did. They do it to unironically build a portfolio, JEET nigger behavior. \Zoomniggers are abhorrent creatures and they don't work for e-peen points or have any honor, these are not the same kind of people that used to crack or hack for the love of sport like we did. They do it to unironically build a portfolio, JEET nigger behavior. \Zoomniggers are abhorrent creatures and they don't work for e-peen points or have any honor, these are not the same kind of people that used to crack or hack for the love of sport like we did. They do it to unironically build a portfolio, JEET nigger behavior.
>>748641386>Nobody cares how it was made if it works.If it doesn't work people just use the emulated version thats been around for far longer and is much better.
>>748633120The smash 64 and the smash melee port (the one by the minish cap recomp guy) are both AI and pretty good.Fable 2 recomp is pure unfettered dogshit and is a posterchild of AI slop and the retard there doesn’t know how to fix anything.Any time you see a “windows only/no vulkan” recomp, rest assured the guy doing that is a total fucking retard and on over his head.
>>748641631it's sort of the point that most AI advocacy in /v/ threads boils down to "UGH WHO CARES IT WORKS"
>>748641490>open up emulator, boot game>3D models and geo are all crisp 4k>text and 2D sprites are blown out and look like shit
>>748641349 They have massive memory leaks, the code is garbage, the games don't really run that better than the emulators. Also these were done by the love of the game of code, not by some retarded zoomnigger to ask claude to decode it. Also security concers are real with open repositories, retarded ugly gorilla nigger.Bad products are bad.Recomps are as useless as your logic mister >a97c31f7f74662b81540e9c9dd5e77c3.jpgtotally a 4chan user.You are a bad person if you support any of these.
>>748641693Yeah, no shit, you're trying to run a 480p game or lower at 4K. What did you think was going to happen?
>>748641820reddit spacing kill yourself faggot
>>748641397I've been using Claude code to make an ASCII roguelike as a test and practice. It can't do even that without constant problems. AI coding seems like it can do anything when you start a project, but it quickly becomes a mess. It's very far from being a replacement for a competent coder. And this is the task where AI is by far the most useful
>>748633120Most are just repacked emulators with some patches that were already available. There's absolutely nothing inherently better about recompiling an executable and dynamic recompiling like emulators do. The CPU is often the lesser of the issues, and everything else will just be code from some publicly available emulator.
>>748641830Recomps I've played do not suffer this issue
>>748641832Retarded ugly gorilla niggerZOOMNIGGER trash humanoid, kill yourself.
>>748634528>soon it'll become normal for the average "programmer" who grew up never having to think about their code to simply not understand how to do it anymore than the modern average programmer can write programs in assembly99% of professional programmers probably haven't used assembly since that one class they took in college and yet they're still fine. AI is just the new layer of abstraction that lets programmers do more with less work.
>>748641885Uh oh luddite meltie
>>748641885youre more likely to do it first trannygo ahead
>>748641597Slow night on the sharty?
>>748633904yes, because he's still touching the code as he works on his game and don't want retards distributing roms with unfinished stuff
At least Zelda games have dedicated people working on properly decomp/recomp the games.
>>748641842What model? You can't just say claude code without specification because the difference between Sonnet and Opus 5.5 or Fable 5.1 is gigantic.
>>748641917>>748641925>>748641935>CLAUDE GIVE ME RECOMP>recomp is worse than emuilationFUCKING LUDDITE XDD!1!Guess what you ugly gorilla nigger, EVERYONE CAN USE CLAUDE you stupid faggot kill yourself
>>748633272I could see that it was just fuckin WRONG immediately. My eyes are fucked in a special sort of way, so when something is made by ai like that, it gives me severe motion sickness. This is why I refuse to touch these monstrosities.
>>748633120Most are fucking trash full of issues, since they are essentially just an emulator turned into a framework. They are essentially emulators for people scared of emulators.
>>748641397I think most assmad people can't actually code. I have been working in swe for a decade and AI is a fucking blessing. It doesn't mean I don't occasionally write code by hand, or do daily leetcode challenges and shit like that, because I'm enjoying it, but AI has made everything 10x faster. There's nothing I can do now that I couldn't 5 years ago but now I can do it while playing games or jerking off. It's great.
>>748641175Responds poorly to critique, got it.
>>748641974Funny how Ship of Harkinian was great and based for years, but now it's shit, slop, and the games need a "recomp" (decomps are objectively better)
Old video games are shit but I'm glad AI usage is making people upset
>>748642014Look at this shit, for example. It's literally just Xenia, with the same issues Xenia has. And no, it will never be fixed since it's just "claude please recompile this game make no mistakes".https://github.com/NoRain211/doaxbv-re
i will never be able to afford to buy a new high-end gaming computer but at least i can play 30 year olds console games natively. thank you scam altman.
>>748639852what am I supposed to be seeing?
>>748642109who the fuck cares nigger. someone else can pick it up and make it perfectshut your faggot ass up
>>748642015You can't code be honest little bitch. if everyone can code then nobody can code , this will eventually lead to a market crash and a ladder pulll for the newer generation. Complete and absolute abhorrent human being.
>>748642009>everyone can use claudeexcept you!
>>748641976>the difference between Sonnet and Opus 5.5 or Fable 5.1 is gigantic.not really. they all write the same slop, the more expensive one just makes its output look fancier at a glance to impress jeets more
>>748642109forgot pic>>748642157>someone else can pick it up and make it perfectlmaono one with the skills is touching slop code, I can assure you, and if someone has the skills, he's contributing to the emulator the code came from, not to some slopcomp
>>748642173>except you!hahahahai can doe, i will abuse this system as much as a street shitting indian whose IQ is too low to have a high trust functional society.but you shouldn't cheer for it.
>>748633120Recomps are shit anyway. Indistinguishable from an emulator that can only run one game and has some hacks to make that game run a bit better.Worthless.
>>748642158cry nigger ahahahahahahahahahahahah
>748642258sub minute response time on every replylmao!
>>748642157>someone else can pick it up and make it perfectNocoder's pipedream
Give it three years and AI will be so good that you tell it “make a recomp of this game. Make no mistakes” and it’ll do it
>>748642292GOOD MORNING SARWE TAKE JOB CAUSE WE SMART SAR
Are you faggots happy??? You mindbroke the AIfag and now he is rage replying to every post on cooldown.
>>748642286>run a bit betterlmao not needing 10x the hardware is not just a "bit"
>>748642238>no one with the skills is touching slop code, I can assure you, and if someone has the skills, he's contributing to the emulator the code came from, not to some slopcompwatch me autist feels so satisfying drinking your tears
>>748641853Then those particular games wouldn't have suffered those issues using emulation either. Recomps don't magically increase the resolution of textures.
>>748642329These recomps are exactly that. But turns out "make no mistakes" is pretty tricky, since the code has to come from somewhere, and the emulators it's taking from do have issues.
>>748641976I started with Opus 5.0 and switched to Opus 5.5. The problems come mainly from losing context, but if I prompt it to keep it as much as possible, Pro runs out of tokens very quickly. And this is an extremely simple project
>>748642329It's already doing that you mong, you are sutpid if you believe that these subhuman zoomnigger RETARDS are even writting a single line of code.Everything will turn into pure indie slop garbage and recomp garbage.
>>748642015This. if you already can code and have a job then youre in charge of AI now. if youre a midwit modtranny or still in school then you're fucked lmfao
>>748641005>You're making an appeal to the merits of video game preservationYes.>while at the same time, dismissing something that doesn't adhere to your standardsThe standards just being "the way the original work was created". That is literally it. Every port takes the 360 version and downgrades it. The recompilation is the 360 version. How hard is that to get if you're not a contrarian?>vaunting AI recomps as the superior optionIn this case? Objectively, factually, it is.>you admit that AI isn't perfectNothing is.>and you've run into an issueI very much have not.
>>748642497too long didnt read
>>748642158>if everyone can code then nobody can codewhat
>>748634181All of this could've been avoided if people had learned how to set up an emulator instead of asking for 500 different executables to be installed on their PCs
>>748642478>if you already can code and have a job then youre in charge of AI nowWhat is the value of your role if AI is doing all the work for you? If you can type "do X" into a chatbox, why can't your manager fire you and do it himself?
>>748633446there are like 10 emulators that work BETTER. Fuckin use those.>>748634173Basically a direct downgrade of a game made by "people" that see zero value in the classics and insist that everything MUST be 20000 fps and shit. They're not even emulators. They're just standalone direct downgrades that miss the fucking point.
>>748642497You called it 'spaghetti-code', and then claimed it's better than nothing at all, suggesting it has flaws; If it didn't, you wouldn't have said this. As stated, the alternative isn't nothing at all.
>>748636732ThisIm in computer networking and my job opportunities are never ending. I get a job only after 4-5 interviews and it only takes a few months to get in the new jobIf you can't setup a switch and configure a network environment for an enterprise you dont deserve a job. Sitting and typing isnt doing jack SHIT, while us Network Tech chads do real workLolIts funny because with these data centers that are popping up everywhere the only people they need to hire are -janitors -security-network techniciansyou faggot cs "learn to code" monkeys will be banging on the gates of our data centers BEGGING for a salary as I laugh at you from inside
>>748642661pa/g/eets OFFICIALLY in the thread, it's over.
>>748635168Based Neuro-Sama.>>748635790Remember: CROCKER WAS CORRECT. >>748637468Case in fucking point. You COULD just throw the rom into pj64 and have it run pretty much perfectly. But they INSIST that this is better because "muh fps" or whatever.>>748642095It was always dogshit. >>748642101"HURR DURR OLD BAD, NEW GOOD ME DRINK LEAD PAINT HURR DURR"Stfu.(fuck off, this is not spam, let me fucking post. Not sure why punchy is apparently required but ok jannies. fine. More cats I guess.)
>>748642629>If you can type "do X" into a chatbox, why can't your manager fire you and do it himself?I can read the output and tell the AI what to adjust. I can also set up guardrails so it doesn't go off the rails too much.
>>748642615AI already lets people who cannot write a loop produce working scripts, websites, and glue code. That is real. Compilers, IDEs, Stack Overflow, and libraries did the same thing in earlier eras: they moved the bottleneck.If the only differentiator was “I can emit Python,” that differentiator is collapsing. Commodity CRUD, boilerplate APIs, one-off scripts, and first drafts of UI are getting cheaper fast. People whose whole value was typing that kind of code will feel the squeeze the same way typesetters and travel agents did.If the value was “I can turn an ambiguous human problem into a reliable system,” that work is not gone. It is more visible, because the cheap parts are being automated.Market crash.
>>748642652>there are like 10 emulators that work BETTEREmulators are too complicated. I tried asking ChatGPT how to install an emulator and the guide it gave me was too long, I got distracted by TikTok after the second paragraph.Recomps are better because it's just an .exe I can run.
>>748642740Seriously though, why were those both considered spam until I cut it in half AND posted a cat in both of them?
>>748642329Anon, that's precisely what's happening since Claude got decent enough a few months ago, That's why you are seeing recomps everywherethe mistakes part is just that AI is not making shit from the ground up, it's taking already existing code and that code is not perfect. Claude won't reverse engineer a console to build up an recomp, it'll just take code from an emulator or some meme framework like https://github.com/RetroPortingToolKit/psxrecomp (which is just duckstation turned into something else)
Genuinely, why bother? If you're not gonna do it properly, and we all know these are going to languish in a half-broken state forever, why would anyone play them instead of just emulating at high-res?
>>748642661:( poor snailcat
>>748633120best game in Serious Sam series that Croteam refused to port over https://github.com/takoshero96/Silly-ReEncounter
>>748637468>that's the biggest fucking issue here, AIniggers do not even care to test their garbage before shipping it offThey literaly can't code. They can't do anything right, they just do it for the portfolio.All AI projects have security issues minus a few like the zelda ones because of the "claude soup" code.If you want to bing bing wahoo just use a fucking emulator or use the analogue console and cartridge you souless human GARBAGE.Eat shit niggger
>>748642740I agree with you on the matter that there's a bunch of egotistical idiots running around pretending they invented something amazing by quickly telling an AI to wrap an emulator around a game, but the models are a multiplier to those who actually know what to do. Thougheverbeit they have flooded attention market with complete sloppa.>t. modder / reverse-engineer before AI dropped
>>748642329>three more years
>>748642748>I can read the output and tell the AI what to adjust.Get with the times grandpa, nobody is reading the output anymore. Just push directly to prod and if something's broken, someone will probably complain and you can just paste their complaint back into the AI and go back to jerking off. You are not doing anything of value that your superior can't do.>I can also set up guardrails so it doesn't go off the rails too much.Doesn't happen anymore, either.
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>>748642772It's fine. Even if people now can code, the overwhelming majority of them don't know what coding can do. If you ask a regular non-tech person what programmers do, their answer will most likely be websites, because that's about what non-tech people see. You can't code something you've never heard of or can't realistically imagine, even if you have access to the technical ability. Most people don't even know what API is.
>>748633442Yeah but but underneath it was AI work!! REEEEEE
claude write me a rebuttal to all the stinky jeety anons in this thread, make no mistakes!!don't bother replying back to my with an even better argument because i'm a smoothbrain it will just slide right off and i don't understand what you're saying and i just ran out of tokens so claude will get back to you in a week
>>748642929I don't know if I've seen a single fully-AI recomp that has been worth it, though. Skate 3 looked promising, but I tested it yesterday and the native renderer was pretty broken besides the most basic of gameplay, and other than that it didn't offer anything Xenia didn't.
>>748633638Same retard who goes:>WHAT DOES REDDIT FROG HAVE TO DO WITH IT?They should ban these fucking spammers.
>>748641853You're playing recomps that have asset packs baked in if UI elements or sprites aren't blown out. Again, 480p game running at 4K.
>>748642229Actual retard holy shit.>>748642417You're supposed to either have it self-document the code and give it JIRA-like task breakdowns (resetting the context for each task) or have it take notes and use those to re-initialize the context after compression.>Pro runs out of tokens very quickly. And this is an extremely simple projectI was doing actual, paid work at my job with Opus 4.6 back in March and didn't start running out of Pro tokens until they were having me full-deep-dive 20k line PRs with the thing. If you're running out "quickly" you're doing something very wrong. Either over-relying on the model to do design work, poorly structuring prompts, you've got the output on verbose, or something similar. With the $25 plan you should easily be able to get ~3 days of nonstop work per week on the project.
>>748642801Download emulator.Download romDrag and drop rom into emulatordone.
>>748642929You are not an engineer , stop larping zoomnigger swedish cuck.I know you are on the same spot as the sloppers with some MINIMAL code knowledge. If AI dissapeared overnight you would be in the same room with all the jeet niggers.
>>748642417Did you make a project and continuously add to the same session each time or are you starting fresh with a new session every time you work on it?
Code is arguably reaching its Deep Blue moment where it is competitive with top humans, especially if you give AI bonus points for being much faster. In another year or two we'll be at Stockfish levels where the humans no longer have any opportunity to contribute, human input is always strictly worse.
>>748639320kaze does use AI when it's convenientit just doesn't happen to be 99% of the time since he's actually creating stuff, not just reimplementing something that already exists
>>748643034I do this.Building a game makes you realize how every game in the past month is just AI slop, every single one of them lmao.
>>748642158>if everyone can code then nobody can codeCrab bucket mentality on full display. Get some real life achievements and this shit will not matter to you at all.
https://youtu.be/mYZPHdKKMaICheck out MVG latest video. He tries some of the new recomps and there are some with graphical glitches and performance issues. Everyone should know by know that: >Most are done quick with AI, and with a "maintainer" who doesn't know how to code so the improvements depends on other people or well, more AI lol >Most build an executable only for Windows and some projects are updated frequently, it's an easy vector for malware. If people thought that AUR was bad good luck keeping up with hundreds of automated or semi automated GitHub repos. Regardless of your opinion about AI, this is more an issue of waste of fucking time. There are a lot of stuff to play without going into recomps, lots emulate very well, and if you don't care about performance mods some work perfectly with FPGA or native hardware, there's also cheap flashcarts like SummerCart 64 for $60. Or FX-PAK for $80 usd. USB soft mods for the X360, PS2, etc. Options seem limitless for retro gaming. Depends on what kind of experience do you want.
>>748642528Concession accepted fren.>>748642657>You called it 'spaghetti-code'A probability.>and then claimed it's better than nothing at allBetter than the DP ports, or DR2's Cases being forgotten about because they were never bundled with the PC port nor ever released anywhere else outside of the Live Arcade? Absolutely, yes.
>>748643065>seething over being called out for his shitty twitter screencap threads
>>748643114>I know you are on the same spot as the sloppers with some MINIMAL code knowledge.I've been a reverse-engineer for ~10yrs and I have a lot of game patches under my belt>You are not an engineer>If AI dissapeared overnight you would be in the same room with all the jeet niggers.My job is completely unrelated to CS, it is completely irrelevant if AI disappears overnight.
>>748643253That's the thing, this is a rug pull. People won't have achievments anymore and the few people in power will remain in their spots.Retard. Abhorrent human being. Complete SOCIOPATH
>>748643314Keep in mind that an emulator is also locked to what it can do so it's safer than some random .exe some vibeshitter put on his GitHub
>>748643356>the only achievements I can conceive of involve monetary valueNo, man, people will be forced to realize that industrial output and income are not what defines achievement. You are the fucking retard who is so brainwashed by your corporate and political masters that you think nothing is worth doing if someone has done it before, or if it doesn't give an ROI in dollars. AI cannot take away your gym PR. AI cannot take away the satisfaction you get from your hobbies. AI cannot take away your subjective experiences of your life.The only thing AI takes away, achievement-wise, is your ability to inflate your ego based on computer bullshit. If you genuinely think that it's not worth hand-making something because a machine can do it, or that it's not worth doing an action because you don't get paid for it, I don't even consider you a human being.
>>748643410this too
>>748643692>AI cannot take away the satisfaction you get from your hobbies. AI cannot take away your subjective experiences of your life.It absolutetly can and it has. AI just killed reverse-engineering and many more gaming and coding sectors to come.
>>748643316>A probabilityA safe way of saying, "I am not confident in my statement", and it reads as such.>Better than <things that aren't nothing>This was never about Deadly Premonition, it was always about the way you present your argument about a subject, and to a neutral party you're trying to convince, you do not do a very good job at it. Let me reiterate: don't say it's 'better than nothing', when you're presenting something as an alternative, no matter the quality, because that's NOT nothing, that's something, and having a weak closing sentence messes with the whole post.
>>748643897Sounds like they weren't actually in it for the craft but for e-peen
>>748643897>AI just killed reverse-engineeringyou can just *not* use AI
>>748643692>AI cannot take away the satisfaction you get from your hobbies. AI cannot take away your subjective experiences of your life.It absolutely can and already has for many people.Hobbies are not practiced in isolation, especially creative ones. Humans are a highly social species, we create things primarily because we want to share them with others, not keep it to ourselves. But you can't share shit when a bunch of jeets are flooding everything with AI and completely drowning out all legitimate creations.
>>748643897Those were never your hobbies, those were never your experiences.You are a fucking golem if the existence of a machine that does a thing you find fun makes that thing less fun for you. You are a literal hylic lump of barely-animate clay if the existence of such a machine somehow dilutes your ability to enjoy your subjective experience of life. You exist purely as you are defined by your differences from others, and as such in a vacuum the truth is revealed: You are nothing.Less human than a machine, unironically.
>>748643998Sociopaths just took over the people doing it for the love of the game. They have no skills but do it for monetary compensation, this always happens, everything is about to become even sloppier. https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths
>>748643998>>748644028>>748644083>trannies
cry harder, anti-AI cucks
>>748644049>HIKING IS RUINED FOREVER BECAUSE QUAD BIKES EXISTt. You, as a hiker
Why are poojeets so desperate for validation?
>>748644028What's the point of doing something without AI when a million jeets will drown out your creation in their AI slop? What's the point of a recomp that nobody uses or even knows about?
>>748644204i make shit for myself not for nexus downloads or github stars but ok
>>748643897>if other can do it, then it's a dead hobbyogey
>>748644176if every single hiking trail in the world was flooded with jeets riding quad bikes and leaving trails of fresh diarrhea behind, yes, hiking would indeed be ruinedthat's what's currently happening in the open source world
