This is the end of the line.We will never get anything like Final Fantasy 7 Retrilogy again because the world that gave us Final Fantasy 7 Remake trilogy doesn't exist anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbdJCMbCzkwshut up faggot
>>748734734https://www.gamesradar.com/games/final-fantasy/we-will-never-get-anything-like-final-fantasy-7-remake-again/
>>748734734thank fuck it's finally over... I thought this shit would never end...
Good. The last thing the world needs is more episodic remade trash for sub-90 IQ shippers. I say hang them all.
>>748734734The irony would be magnificent if it weren't totally unintentional.
>>748736938>The last thing the world needs is more episodic remade trash for sub-90 IQ shippers.I would like to know what the average IQ of the diehard VIIR fan is. It can't be very high.
>>748734734>Everyone areESL moment.
>>748734734The words of a terminal luddite who doesn't realize it is now possible to make FF7 Remake every month.
>>748734734>another ff remake>it's shitThat's not fucking surprising. These games were always trash and never deserved the acclaim they got.
>>748737156thst pic feels oddly representative of the 4 fans this shit still has
>>748734734>the world that gave us Final Fantasy 7 Remake trilogy doesn't exist anymoreSo [Good News] then.
Im only playing it for the story, I hate "action" rpgs so fucking much bros but I do want to see how insane Cloud gets and pray that give it a bad ending.
>>748734734Fans waited decades for a remake and what they finally got was trash. Pretty trash, but still trash. I'm old enough to remember when Square said they would only consider a FF7 remake if the company was on the brick of death.
>>748737689You're getting a bad ending alright. A badly written ending.
>>748734734Thank. Fucking. God. Next time they remake a Final Fantasy, can they remake them like FFIII and IV instead of fucking making a trilogy of sequels.
>>748734734>This is the end of the line.goodit should have stayed deadfucking travesty what they did to kino FF7
>>748737689>Im only playing it for the story, I hate "action" rpgs so fucking much brosBro... you're playing this shit for the exact wrong reason. Just play the original if you want a story. The only slightly redeeming quality of this trash trilogy is that the combat is kinda fun.
Good. Glad to be free of this shit. Hope the last one flops so hard it's decades until they try this shite again.
>>748734817Unless part three is a catastrophic bomb, they're going to continue milking 7 with multiverse bullshit for years to come.
>>748734734this is actually true most likely. there are a lot of crusty old head devs involved in the remake trilogy that are much more concerned with telling a good story and creating the best jrpg they can make, than they are with sales or mass appeal. gotta be demoralizing when the vast majority of the population simply isn't equipped to appreciate the art you poured your heart and soul into (see also: death stranding)
>>748734734thank fuck
>>748737842I really hope I'm wrong, but didn't someone from square say they wanna make ff7 its own fucking franchise?
>>748734734It’s not even fully out yet, and remakes are more common than ever. Gonna need a first paragraph or something to establish their argument.
>>748737991It already has been since 2004 when the compilation shit started, anon.
>>748737958Sakaguchi kept the rest of them in line. Without him and Uematsu, FF is dead.
>>748738104Is there a single example of a company going public NOT ruining everything that built them up to that point?
>>748734734>We will never get anything like Final Fantasy 7 Retrilogy againGood.
>>748738096I suppose you're right I really don't understand the logic in a honest remake not working, then offer a reimagining, reboot, or whatever they want to call it next
>>748734734The whole trilogy is an exercise in maximizing time waste and pointless filler. There are some things I like about it like the combat system but I can't get over the fucking vacuum cleaner pushing and the ludicrous focus on minigames in Rebirth.
>>748738310That's what they should've done. Make your spinoff or whatever after you do the thing people have been begging you for for decades.
FF7 Rebirth is the best game of this generation, it's kind of sad that it wont get recognition due to it's place in the series. Rebirth established a formula different to Remake but I don't think it'll be the same with the next game. Revelation will be Rebirth 2.0 and will dominate future discussion.Rebirth discussion will be limited to it's story and brushed aside which is a shame because the gameplay is great, an absolutely stacked game with the best ever action combat system, variety content, music, etc.Try to imagine playing the 7r games fresh without confirmation bias.
>>748737835>2011+30>Dorito Pope comes out>"and now, the moment you've all been waiting for">"from the studio that brought you Final Fantasy VII">"and Final Fantasy VII Remake">"I'm proud to announce">"the Final Fantasy VII Remake, Remastered, Renewed!">[the crowd goes wild]
>>748738440I wish they never made that ps3 tech demoIt hurt so much when "remake" was announced and subsequently leaked to reveal the sham it would unfold to be
>>748738310It's the product of overly self-indulgent old men that think they know better than the audience yet still lack the courage to actually try making a new IP instead of falling back on their past success.
>>748734817>thank fuck it's finally over... I thought this shit would never end...Anon...
>>7487377543 had a remake
>>748738546Ever since ff15 I see square solidified as the skinner meme, except swap the kids with fans
>>748738258It skipped the entire build up too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S25R3FGwPZwIt's impressive how bad they fucked up the ending. Like a genuinely retarded person could make a better ending
>>748734734Thank God. Can we just be done with final fantasy entirely at this point?
>>748738258because you need everything spelled out to you, the exact same thing is happening in both scenes. In Rebirth, you see Cloud grappling with reality. The Remake trilogy tells the same story with more context and graphical flair/wank, which you can complain about and call a "spectacle" but if you're complaining about a remake exaggerating things with better graphics and enhanced tech I have no idea why you'd even be wanting a remake.You can play the original game any time. It's not invalidated in any way
>>748738628The level of mismanagement around 15's development is genuinely fascinating.
>>748738594They wanna turn FF7 into Resident Evil.
>>748737156that is too high for a final fantasy fan
>>748737958>more concerned with telling a good story and creating the best jrpg they can make, than they are with sales or mass appealWe're talking about the same FF7 remake?
>>748738258>Aeris/th's theme starting in time with the materia hitting the ground
I would be lost drifting alongFloating up high time after timeAnd there you'd be, shining brightlyYour smiling face to guide my way
>>748734734I like that they are posting CyberConnect2 take on FF7.
>>748738441unironic shit eater
>>748738774SHINE BRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT ONCE MOOOOOOOOREGUIDE MEEEEEE TO YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU
>>748738815what modern games do you like? To be honest, I'd kind of tuned out of videogames since around 2010 because it was all becoming low effort slop. Rebirth was the first game to really impress me for a long time.
>>748734734I've already spent all day being angry about 7R's existence and now this? Now I'm even angrier. When can I rest?
>>748739030There is no rest for anone like us
>>748734734No, I think we have many more soulless cashgrabs outsourced to bottom of the barrel jeet studios to look forward to.
>>748739520That's the Final Fantasy I know and love.
>>748738986I wn't share with you animal
There's plenty of stupid gook parasitism. It's not the first and sadly not the last. It killed japan, it's killing the rest of the world.
>>748738664>the exact same thing is happening in both scenesKill yourself faggot
>>748739792You can't reveal what you actually like because you are insecure, cave to peer pressure easily and gravitate toward hatemobs because it's more comforting to be perpetually outraged and upset. It takes courage to stand your ground and enjoy something.I played the games and formed my own opinion, I had fun and it felt good.
>>748738702>turn based Resident EvilDon't fuck with me, id play it
if you actually go listen to gdc talks or read game design books you realize that none of those people are all that intelligentso why would you go even several magnitudes lower and actually pay attention to what some college drop out blogger says?
Unironically though, I think Rebirth was a good game. It had some flaws and missteps, but I found it enjoyable.
>>748740063Wasn't the GBC game turn based?
>>748734734Thank ChristThey REALLY shit the bed on this one
Oh no. Not the worst thing that's ever happened to JRPGs...
>>748734734Good. Pozzed piece of shit.
>>748740109The biggest real objective flaw people seem to agree on is the Shinra Mansion segment which I find funny because people will rag on the game using this as their proof that the game sucks. It takes like 50 hours to get to that point of the game, critics will just gloss over the entire game.For me, I found certain parts of the Temple of the Ancients to be worse than the Cait Sith part (Aerith lasers, flashback rooms) but it was a mixed bag.I also thought dumping a world of side-content before the final chapter was wrong, I was so fatigued by that point. They should've railroaded the story's end first and then opened the world up imo. I felt dread finishing up everything and then when the ending is in sight, being hit with 100 page to do list
Good that “trilogy” is fucking dogshit and anyone who supported it is a cell in an undead blight affecting gaming that must be burned away.
>>748738659But how will people get their thrill of being angry?
>>748738258Why doesn't she just move out of the way
>>748740975I don't think the game fully expected you to complete every side quest on the first playthrough.
I want final fantasy but with incest
>>748734734weird way of saying they failed, lol.
>we will never get anything like FF7 remake againGood!
>>748741742People say this dumb shit but the side quests have recommended levels.Dont do them when they're handed to you and you'll be comically overleveled.
>>748734734>We will never get anything like Final Fantasy 7 Retrilogy againIsn't that Great News? Do we still need remade/remastered nostalgiabait BS?
>>748738258Both look the same to me>t.schizo suffering with hallucinations
>FF6R never ever
hope the third one flops toofuck em
>>748734734Ok, can they move on and make FF13 remake now? Nobody gives a shit about FF7, we want more Lightning.
>>748738258>high sovl>soul eradicated
>>748746927>we
>>748734734>We will never get anything like Final Fantasy 7 Retrilogy againAnd that's a good thing!
It's deeply funny that a game that came out practically 30 years ago is now lost technology and requires a team 10x bigger 10x the time and requires them to split the game into 3 parts. Wait, did I say funny? I meant disgusting.
>>748734789I still hope he'll review Rebirth someday
>>748747038It's 2026, you can stop pretending FF13 is bad now.
>>748734734FF is trash and has always been trash with maybe the exception of Tactics.
>>748738664>I have no idea why you'd even be wanting a remakeWE DON'T WANT REMAKES YOU FUCKING NIGGER CUM SNORTING FAGGOT
>FF7 was supposed to be SE's "use in case of emergency" kind of gameI wonder what they'll do if it doesn't reach their expectations in terms of sales... will they finally kill the IP? Is it going to baby's first and FINAL Fantasy?
>>748741154There's no shortage of franchises that should have died 20 years ago, Nintendo alone got tons.
>>748747506They already (recently) said they wanted the Final Fantasy VII Remake universe to be a forever IP, but I honestly can't see Revelation selling enough to justify that. Hopefully Revelation bombs even harder than Rebirth. They deserve it for fucking up the easiest layup in the history of vidya.
>>748747506SE spelled out FF7 is now a franchise and 7R was meant to redefine it to a new generation, they're not stopping here.
>>748747506They have nothing to worry about
>>748747556>a forever IP>>748747585>a franchiseSo more compilationslop in the upcoming years? damn...>>748747657lmao
>>748747293FF13 is good compared to what we get now.That doesn't make it good is just makes it not as bad as Slopbirth.
>>748747657>posting this fake shit again
So when are we going to get the actual, complete, non-episodic remake
>>748734734thank god
>>748747506They are going to keep making FF only that this time multiplatform and single game.
>>748748009
>>748748009The second they announced roles for part 3 it was over. It would take them years to backport that feature into Remake and Rebirth.
>>748747974It is literally on the largest international retailer in the world.
>>748747657Fucking hell, lmao
>>748734734Chadley's here to stay, baby
>Piece of media that became a classic because of its story>Remake it and change the storyI can understand needing to update stuff like gameplay or graphics. After all, it's the kind of thing that can age pretty bad, especially in video games.But story isn't something that needs to be 'updated', because it's one of the rare things that actually don't age. This is why fucking stories from more than 2000 years ago are still being read and experienced, and enjoyed even today. A good story stands the test of time, and is often timeless. It's also what usually defines the damn thing.You change the story, you change the work.These fucking retards completely missed the point of what gave VII its classic status.It's such a shame too, because this was probably the easiest part to get right, whereas updating the visuals, creating thousands of HD assets to translate 2D environments into modern 3D, adding voice acting, etc, that was the hard part. The part that required man power, planning and thinking. Story didn't.It was a no brainer home run (just port it 1:1) but no, they just had to fuck with it. It's so fucking baffling. And such a damn shame.
Not being an FF fan and observing the discourse from the distance is so weird. Like everyone is keep repeating how it's revolutionary and an impossible achievement but I have yet to see an elaboration of how and why.
>>748747506they still have the MMORPG anon... FF14 will keep the IP on life-support
>>748734734Can only hope. I don't need more trilogies trying to recontextualise events made my people who weren't the creative visions behind the originals
>>748747832>shippedlol
>>748734734Yep. The old world is dead. Gone. Does anyone else have an urge to eat bugs, sacrifice our children to Lord Moloch and make our wives spread their legs for Rakim? I've got the Switch 2 ready. Primed. Zelda? Ready. Metroid? Ready. Snacks? Secured. Let's have fun, everyone, and May the Force be with you.
>>748738258The original did a way better job with the choreography and I prefer the less noisy visuals.
>>748749094I really dislike when someone prefers the way OG did something to how remake did it.
>>748734734Good. I’m replaying the original and it’s also shit. Why am I replaying it? Because I hate it
>>748749160I too prefer the time jannies filling up the screen and scene in the scene when Aerith does but not really since Cloud parried Sephiroth but not really and then the group finds Cloud with a dead but not really Aerith who's alive but not really.OG could never reach that masterpiece
FF hasn't been good since IX, and the PS1 games are worse than the games that came before them also the whole extended universe shit for VII is just embarrassing and completely ruins the game. the spin-off games, AC, remake, they're all trash and have no right to exist.
>>748747130They could make FF7 PS1 easily now, it just would never sell.
>>748734734The concept that cutscenes, hallways and backtracking is somehow something "extra" from shitenix that noone else in the industry could have easily done for half the cost is baffling to me.
>>748749549People whine about Midgar's linearity, but then whine about Rebirth being open world (before even taking into account the way the open world fails, just hating that they went open world)I think that's the best example that no matter what they did, they'd be attacked by retards
>>748749792both are terrible examples of game design :)
>>748749792Retards would attack the games no matter what SE did, but thankfully there are people like you and me who will like and defend whatever SE did, so at least it balances out.
>>748749894>BECAUSE I SAID SO THAT MEANS IT IS TRUE
>People complain about how there's not enough to do in Midgar>People complain about how there's too much to do in the worldPeople don't know what they want. Why can't they be like me and not complain either way? Just be happy with whatever we get.
>>748748662And you never will.
>>748749984yes
I was never going to be happy with the remake no matter what they did or didn't do and I accept that.
>>748734734I stopped at Cosmo Canyon in Rebirth. It's just a really boring game. >The problem is there's too much to do!Yeah and 90% of it was putting me to sleep. The players aren't the ones with ADHD (mostly) it's the game itself that has ADHD.>We need to stop Seph->MINI GAME>Is that President Rufus? We need to->MINI GAME>MINI GAMEFuck you.
>>748750235I was always going to be happy with the remake no matter what they did or didn't do and I don't accept others not feeling the same way.
>>748750103no
>>748734789fpbpme love mechagamezilla
>>748750235>only give it a faceliftWhat's the point? >change thingsYou ruined the vision of the original.Just make a new fucking game. By milking 7, you're just admitting that you are unable to make something better than a 30 year old title. How embarrassing.
>>748750552>remake ends>the whispers are gone>the unknown journey awaits>time to go off the rails and venture into something new>lol just kidding it's 99% the same aside from when we fuck up the one scene that was supposed to be emotionally engaging
>>748734734What scares me the most about the VII Remake trilogy is that I know even after the DLCs release, there will still be people who will desperately ask Square Enix for more.
>>748750701it's a shrinking circle, but as the embers die down they will be extremely vocaland they'll probably get what they want, not because there's big demand, but because SE are creatively bankrupt. more ff7slop will always be the easier option
>>748748374Who'std've?
>>748740063The FF7 Remakes arent even turn based though
>>748748549Square Enix might be one of the dumbest companies on this rock. They've literally gone from kings of an entire genre of gaming for decades to flushing it and the franchise that got them there down the toilet and developing active resentment towards the genre.My point is that these people throwing away the easiest home run in video game histoy doesn't surprise me at all.
>>748747832Like 5 million of those are from Remake alone. Its massive how many jumped the ship after that
>>748751007Nomura is such a dumbass
>748750103>Just be happy with whatever we get.Is there a bigger cùck mindset than this in existence? Literally soulless gray NPCs that nod and consume behave like this.I'd tell you to kys but I don't think what you live is considered a life.
>>748734789I finally watched this and it was way more balanced than I expected. He doesn't hate it enough but good video nonetheless.
I made the mistake of completing all of the side content at launch and it was a miserable experience. I recently did a ng+ replay on dynamic mode doing only the main mission and aside from the opening slog and shinra manor it was fun. If they had bothered to place all the gear upgrades in the giant open world instead of locking them behind checklist chores and battle sims it would have been so much better.
I'm considering getting a lobotomy so I can actually enjoy these remakes
when this bullshit is over they could start hyping up an actual remake.
>>748751007They did it because they believe themselves to be good storytellers for ripping off their superiors and since it worked once why rip off them off again but this time it'll make even more money! Sadly for them They Can (Not) Undo the long term damage it did.
>>748741634lag
>the world that takes nostalgia and repackages it with endless padding and bland current trends to sell once more doesnt exist anymoreI fucking wish bruh
>>748750856Revelation is Chadley and Chadley 2's game.
>>748752083>They Can (Not) UndoI wish they had tried this. Instead we just have time jannies that do nothing.
>>748734734>Love the Remakes?>Enjoy your slop!!>Hate the Remakes?>Old good, new bad!I enjoyed the original. I tried enjoying the Remakes, but they're so boring and the story just feels like regurgitated diarrhea. I'm not saying that with any hate or malice. If you like them, I'm genuinely happy for you. I tried to. I just can't.
>>748752083Bluekings stay winning
>>748737689Turn on atb and story mode then retard. They literally give you a turn based mode
>We will never get anything like stretching out one game into 3 to cash in on nostalgia as hard as possibleI wish that were true, but lazy devs will prove it wrong.
>>748752662>They literally give you a turn based modeThat's not how it works at all.
>>748750217Good
>take beloved classic>gut its combat>split it into 3 parts>add yellow paint>add hideous negros>censor girls>take a decade to finishthe most modern game in existence
>>748752972>began as an entirely outsourced project>used the money Nier Automata made to bring it fully in house>ended up outsourcing it to jeets anyway
Rebirth feels like SE looked at a huge list of all the worst things about AAA western game design and decided to include all of them.
>>748753043>3D artists7R has some of the best 3D models and animations in gaming so the jeets must be proficient.
>>748753128>7R has some of the best 3D models and animations in gamingBruh...
>>748734734Our remakeniggery world is collapsing... (if only)
I don't really understand why they are so adamant about milking this shit when they keep failing at itThey couldn't even keep a fucking phone game going for much past 3 years
>>748752803It's going to be ok sweetheart.You have the right love objectively bad media, I'll still mock you for it though but it's all in good humor :)
>>748750103>Midgar was full of pointless, painfully boring padding because it was limited to the prologue of the game>When you'd finally get to the meatier parts of the story, cram all that full of padding too for no reasonSquare has no fucking idea what they're doing
>>748750103>>748753501>could have expanded on Midgar and shown us the other Sectors >didn't>made 2 different Chadleys instead
>>748753196Looks like you're giving these indians high praise for their work. You should go find a more relevant category in the credits to use for shitposting, because this falls a bit short.
>>748753646>Looks like you're giving these indians high praise for their work. No no, that's what you're doing. I'm laughing at it.
y'all haters, go play something else if you don't like it, like the original for the 500th time.the FF7 community honestly pisses me off, half of you don't even like Dirge and pretend compilation doesn't exist, no wonder remake makes you mad, its a sequel to compilation.I know this is the case because Dash (speedrunner) basically said exactly this on his last rando, and I agreed with zheal who was like "give it a chance hater"
>>748753740Ah, so we're at that level of shitposting. We ignore anything that looks good and only acknowledge anything that looks bad. These models? Don't exist, and if they do, they weren't made by "indians."
>>748753831What's most likely, anon, is that the stuff that looks bad was made by outsourced Indians and the stuff that doesn't look bad (i.e. the main characters) was made in house. I'm glad to hear that you're happy with your Indian craftsmanship though.
>>748753965Ok, so your logic is the ugly models were made by indians and the non-ugly ones were made by nips. So the nips made all the main character and monsters, which makes up the vast majority of them (99%+). Doesn't that make this post >>748753043 seem kinda meaningless? See, I think your angle of approach backfired here. It seems aimless and makes no sense under scrutiny.
>self hating indians have entered the chatkek
>>748734734Aren't CDPR basically trying to do the same thing with releasing Witcher 4, 5 and 6 within 6 years? Of course time would tell if they succeed, or if the plan is a good one in the first place.
>>748754112>See, I think your angle of approach backfired here. It seems aimless and makes no sense under scrutiny.It's just true facts, anon. The game was entirely outsourced, then Nier Automata unexpectedly made so much money that they were able to bring it in-house, then they still outsourced it to jeets anyway. That's all just true.
>>748740063the last turn based final fantasy was 10 years ago
>>748737842Yoshi-P already said that Square Enix wants to tap Naoki Hamaguchi to direct FFXVII, Square Enix probably isn't in the position to make more FFVII shit.
>>748754112Before we continue, I just want to check something. What would you consider a valid criticism of 7R?
>>748734734>We'll never get another FF7 remakeThank fucking GOD
what was the last time cecil or squall got anything
>>748754638opera omnia ?rip opera omnia...i will never play another squeenix phone game because they just close them down
>>748754320>Square Enix probably isn't in the position to make more FFVII shit.If it is at all financially feasible to do so after the world finds out how much Revelation sells, Square Enix has already stated their plan is to turn VIIR into a forever IP. see: >>748738594
>>748754638>>748754750Brave Exvius also. They are both Visions in Final Fantasy Resonance. And for what it's worth, Brave Exvius lasted 10 years and Opera Omnia lasted 7 years. That's a pretty long time in the world of gacha.
>>748754638squall was datamined to be in dissidia duellumcecil was probably pre covidnot counting BE reused stuff in resonance
>>748754935i was only able to play OO for one year and im still mad cause I had Shelke and she isn't even playable in ANY other game. they could have just left it up. hate gacha shit.ever crisis also bugged on me and lost my save and im not doing it twice. (more like 4 times since its og 7 but not)
What is the average imaginary wage for these shills trying to drum up interest on 4chan of all places?
>>748755121They get paid the same wage the jannies get paid.
>>748755121They do it for free.
never played FF7, never cared about FF7. i like many other FF games though
>>748755068That's just now how live service games and gachas work, anon. 7 years is an extremely long time in gacha years, and 10 years is positively ancient. Especially since both of those games are from the before times, back before Genshin made gacha popular.
>>748755189my favorite is ff8 because it actually feels like an adventure of misfits for once, rather than a movie script
>>748755208yeah I know and I think its shit, so I don't play them. I gave gacha ONE chance and it failed to impress me, I will never play them again. if your game contains gacha I won't play it.
>>748755189play OG 7
>>748754638>Kain instead of Cecil in the modern mobile slopI think that's a Cecil win lmao
>>748755410Well, you tried it twice, it sounds like it did leave an impression on you, but yeah, it's generally a good idea to just not play gacha.
>>748755480i only tried ever crisis twice because the save bugged and I spent a MONTH talking to tech support to try and fail to get my save back, I did not play it twice. i'd still be playing OO if it wasn't dead, because it rewards gameplay not pay 2 win.making me miss aerith valentines one off unique stuff was my last straw. I will never play gacha again ever.
>>748755569Yeah okay, whatever. You said:>I gave gacha ONE chance and it failed to impress meso I made the comment that you actually gave it two chances (OO, EC) and that it sounds like you were impressed or that at least it left an impression on you, and you're saying right now that you'd still be playing OO if it didn't EoS. So what you said isn't exactly the truth based on your own statements, but yeah, it is generally a good idea to not play gacha.
>>748734734Yeah, it is sad. Like, i dont see ambition in gaming anymore, just the same games rehashed and more Mihoyo (my asshole) gacha garbage.Like, im midly interested in Persona 6, but we all know whats gonna be, for the 6th time. Go to school, anime characters, same turn based combat, same personas, and cookie cutter society commentary story. What is there left to look forward to?
>>748755690>hur actually you saidyou can just not reply if you're going to twist my words.
>>748756512I'm not twisting your words at all though.
