"this game doesn't hold your hand">every npc in the game perfectly gives you directions on where to go>the game comes with a manual on how to do everything
reading is too difficult for the modern gamer
the combat in this game is so fucking shit
>talk to two other people>quest is buried in giant list of random trash>never able to find it ever again no matter how hard you lookGame was flawed
>>748831474this game is so shit>muh no fast travelDaggerfall had fast travel, why didn't they add it in this one ? Plus it's ugly as shit, always grey and brown
>>748831771there is fast travel though.
every quest is pick up mushrooms or just go talk to some guy you have to spend 35 minutes finding
>>748831771Morrowind has fast travel and Daggerfall did not have a choice on fast travel, either it was in the game or the game was not playable.
>>748831474I use the mod where everyone hates you by default so you have to bribe them to get any information or even trade.
Can someone make claude put skyrim combat in morrowind already?
>>748831474It tells you where the place is, it doesn't hold your hand getting you there. Do you have trouble with common English phrases?
>>748831656>doesn’t know how to search in the journalThere’s bait and then there’s just not knowing what you’re talking about.
>>748832194>Can someone use slop to enshitify the game?Pretty sure you can do that anon. Sounds easy.
>>748831771Mah nigger, go to a silt strider.
i want to run fasterr in heatvy armor how do i do that?
>>748833216In priority:Strength, Athletics, Speed.
so what's the deal with cat book merchantsi mean in vanilla there's only jobasha but he's kind of an odd fella so ok, but in TR i keep coming across cat book merchants, what is this like a thing now?
>>748831474and it's still too obtuse for the average gamerpeople are completely fucking retarded now, they always were but now it's worse
Skill requirements for faction progression are kinda assLike sorry Cassius i'm not wasting money on Marksman/Mercantile/Security/Short Blade
>>748833593you dont have to be high rank in every faction
Some zoomer faggot keeps popping up on my youtube, it's a "i'm playing morrowind blind" playthrough and by god does he embody the stereotype of not reading and swinging at shit with no fatigue.
>>748833593Roleplay your character. Staying forever as a shitter in some faction is perfectly fine.
>>748833669Morrowind is genuinely better if you play it like this, trying to 100% it with one character just means that you will be like a demigod for most of the content.
>>748833665It's a meme for a reason. Did they try attacking the guards or the citizens for no reason yet?
>>748833752And you can play it without ever touching a single guild as well. Hell you can stumble your way and finish the main story as a random explorer.
>>748831474This game is certainly an experience. A clunky experience.
>>748831656bro, getting lost in that game is SOOO much fun, you find so much other shit, kill tough enemies, find more quests, loot, adventures. the lake of hand holding makes it fun.
>>748833665the unguided series? I'm enjoying it personally
>>748831474See any elves?
>>748832089it has limited fast travel, you take public transportation, or recall or intervention spells, and the spells can be used even when you are getting your ass handed to you.
>>748833870No he's not that braindead from what i've seen>>748834060Yea but it's really just "i'm playing a videogame NORMALLY". But I guess normal for zoomers is with a wiki open in the 2nd screen.
>>748833939hell, you can kill vivic and still take the wrathgaurd to the dwarf bro to unlock it. jsut need to find some books with instructions how to do it that only he can read.
>>748831656>Has trouble reading See Spot Run
I guess my Morrowind looks pretty nice.Too bad the game can barely comprehend all those mods.
>>748831474"this game holds your hand too much">navi only tells you where your next dungeon is>tells you fuck all about how to get in
>>748834593Focus N, I'm sensing magic potential from that Breton .
>>748831474>has a magical map that fills itself out and adds location markers>even comes with the game as a physical mapWow, what a load of casual shit. One of the first things people should mod out to be more immersive.
>>748834593This fucking thing is just literally hidden in the first room and you might spend hours and multiple levitation potions looking for it deeper inside
>>748831474i like how morrowind is at the perfect level of casualization to piss off both the hardcore and the casuals. you see people calling it both too simple and too inaccessible in the same threads
>>748834861Thumbnail looks like puke
>>748831474>every npc in the game perfectly gives you directions on where to go>the game comes with a manual on how to do everythingAnd retards still get filtered by this game because they refuse to read.
>>748832310To be fair the game didn't have that feature on release. Sorting the journal cost extra $$
>>748834965Is there even anything unique deeper inside?
>>748835221no, morrowind's dungeon design is genuinely awful
>>748834180That's the issue though since so many of his issues could be solved by reading the fucking game manual and using the map the game came with. Morrowind was designed with the idea the player would have that physical map in hand to help go places.
>>748835097Lorkhan's puke. It's part of the lore.
>>748835221Jew coins and minor dwemer armor parts if you're lucky
>>748835306Never used the physical map except for finding random dungeons I hadnt discovered yet. All important locations and quests are marked on your map or given to you with clear directions on how to get there.
>>748831656So stop taking on new quests, dummy. Learn to manage your shit better. This game is basically a litmus test to see if you’re a functional adult or a hopeless retard.
>>748835097Rumor is Kirkbride came into the office one day completely wasted, puked on the floor, and shouted "MAKE THIS A MAP!" before passing outThough it might have been "Get me a mop", but no one was really sure.
>>748835221Not really. If you get the key from Hasphat and go back to the part of the dungeon that was locked offf, you can snag some early Dwemer armor. That's pretty much it. I mean it's a early game dungeon, you can't expect it to be this grand place.
>>748835475They could've made the sealed part some post game content where the ancient evil resides
>>74883147480% of Morrowind "fans" are like Dante when he says that Homer is the greatest amongst the classic poets, but he never read him and just heard other people say he was good and wants to look like he knows what he's talking about. The other 20% are just autistic people that think they are brilliant and enlightened because they followed an online guide to create a custom character that has 500 Agility at the start of the game. Every Elder Scrolls game has mediocre writing and awful gameplay, and don't even get me started on Daggerfall, the heckin largest world EVAR with fucking nothing in it.
>>748836191If you had a tripcode, what would it be?
>>748836273He's right you fucking fag
>>748837207That's a weird name
>>748837473tripcodes and names are different things. tripfags often use names, but you can use a tripcode without a name
>>748837207Incorrect.
>>748836191or its just a fun immersive game that has easy areas close to the starting point and harder place far away as your tutorial. could the combat system be improved, sure, but i feel alot of stuff is still not finished, it would be nice to have more quests.
>>748838284>minimal to no voice acting>entire map is static and shit only happens when youre nearby>biggest "city" is a labyrinth of hallways, tunnels and micro roomsdefinitely the traits of an immersive game
>>748838471>what is abstraction
>>748835279At least the loot's handplaced
>>748838514yes anon, what IS abstraction? because morrowind doesnt have any abstraction at all
>>748831474I wish new Bethesda games had even a small portion of the sense of discovery that Morrowind had
>>748838649Lantern of the Laughless Saint, I guess.
>>748836191okay
>>748835306Him being unable to read basic quest instructions makes me sperg out a little. He hasn't even reached a quest where the instructions are actually wrong, like with the white guar, so god fucking help him.
>>748838594Right, it doesn't have grunts and voiced greetings so that you can imagine how a text would sound at all.
>>748838471well if the game is remade you can add some Kenshi dynamics to the world.
>>748838828>morrowind is immersive!>no it isnt. theres no voice acting and the map is a web of connected rooms>umm yes it does!>no it doesnt>yes it does grunts and hellos are voice actingnigga
>>748835306i never used the manual map and got around just fine, the directions are good enough, the world isn't that bigmorrowind is easy to understand, it's not some complex tumor that needs esoteric knowledge to enjoy, it's just an RPG where you loot shit while being the chosen oneif you don't like looting and casual RPG bullshit then you don't like the genre in general and need to leave the thread to find something you do like
>>748838939There's voice acting, sorry you're too retarded to understand what it means.I don't get normgroids and their need for voice acting, no one wants to hear some monotone VA phoning it in because they have 1000000 lines to go through and they aren't paid shit, just look at ESO or any game that has "full voice acting" only larian games do it well and they have literal hundreds of hours in voice acting, which was probably expensive as hell
>>748838939well, the cost if you get ALOT more content for cheap, as opposed to being basically on rails since voice acting is expensive, I would take morrowind over oblivion any day.
>>748835449Todd gave his okay to the puke map design after Kuhlman explained to him that it was actually just oatmeal.
>>748838939>characters shouting how they'll gut you isn't voice acting>the classic dunmer gruffness isn't voice actinghuh
>>748839206Dunmer as the giga chads of fantasy elf races.
>>748831474>game comes with a manual that tells you how to do everything>people can't hit the mudcrabs at the start of the game
>>748836191I like Morrowind, completed it back in 2014 for the first time, including DLC.That said, I agree there's a lot of flaws with it and it's lauded for complexity it actually doesn't have by retards trying to sound smart.>and don't even get me started on Daggerfall, the heckin largest world EVAR with fucking nothing in it.Daggerfall however is truly irredeemably garbage, I'll forever shit on retrofags that call it a high point in the franchise.
>>748838939>no it isn't>yes it doesOof
some directions were totally wrong in mw but i liked how it delivered them>follow the river south until you reach the lake. follow the lake and head east along the path.but it was north all along
Voices of Vvardenfell makes the game so much better. It makes every character talk in a halting monotone, mispronounce words, rattle off thirteen page descriptions of insignificant details, and threaten to kill you over minor slights. It's what I imagine /v/ to be in real life.
>>748834965I did this, multiple times in fact
>>748839396fuck you, i liked the procedurally generated dungeonsit's a serviceable game when it's actually functioning with mods to fix the literal broken implementation of skills and shitbut i'm pretty biased because i like any games that let me go into a dungeon to bring loot back to town to sell, etcgetting my first piece of ebony gear after doing a dozen quests is peak RPG looting
>>748839643I honestly hate voice acting in games heavy on dialogue. Give me moogle kupo sounds and let me skip text.
>>748839643>pick up ash yam>NOW YOU DIE
>>748839390Like many things, Daggerfall did it better
>>748831474"Perfectly"I mean, yeah they tell you landmarks and stuff and most are hard to miss, but some of those directions are not perfect and I did find myself having to double back when I realized I went too far. It isn't like having a GPS in your pocket.
>>748839782
>>748839390better thant daggerfall where you have to swing the mouse around
>>748839945you can get around this by dropping your own item and pushing the other item with it out of sight
>>748839803i'm actually halfway through watching a youtube video of a daggerfall (unity) challenge run right nowsome games are just better watched than personally played
>>748839945They really do make the same game since oblivion every time
>>748839741>it's a serviceable game>when it's actually functioning with mods to fix the literal broken implementation of skills and shit
>>748838562not in the containers
>>748840132What are you confused about? It's a good idea with poor implementation and bugs, which are fixed with mods.
>>748840112The problem with Daggerfall is that it's not a good game but it is a novel sandbox/sim. Also its designed like shit so most people can't even build a functional character at the start and this isn't their fault.You really have to get into its groove, then there's nothing else like it. But it really needed an actual non-themepark sequel to iron out a lot of its issues, fortunately mods are starting to fix this a little.
>>748833593The Blades don't even check for skill levels. You could have had this complaint about literally any other faction, and you chose the one faction that checks overall level instead of skills/attributes.
>>748840196The mods don't fix the game fundamentally, dungeons are a random mishmash of corridors and rooms, all towns are visually the same and also randomly generated except a handful of main quest relevant ones, the open world is fucking empty, there's zero incentive to not fast travel everywhere, all quests are the same, stealth is broken, the skills are all quantity and no substance, there's a bunch of useless languange skills that do nothing but give you a chance to make creatures passive when encountering them and no actual conversation or interaction takes place, I could go on but it's not worth it.
>>748840652Sorry but you're a terminal themepark retard, I've never seen such a bad case of it before.
>>748833593It wouldn't be an issue if elder scrolls just did what most rpgs do and allowed you to allocate points to skills instead of just attributes. Having to repeat the same action just to advance a skill is the most retarded game design choice ever and I don't know why they kept doing this in later titles. Also, I agree that the combat in morrowind is bad because it makes some skills not worth using. Like, try leveling up a combat skill at level 5 naturally. It's not happening. You just go to a trainer and spam click until you're a high enough level. Truly groundbreaking guys.>You're supposed to stick to a playstyleTamriel rebuilt exists and I want to spec into everything post game as a reward. Fuck you.
>>748839945>Los Angeles:2021
>>748840905>Skyrim, Morrowind and Oblivion are now themeparksIt's no surprise you have such retarded tastes, you literally need to be brain addled to enjoy Daggerfall
>>748840935>try leveling up a combat skill at level 5 naturallyOf all the skills that are stupid to level up without training, why choose the easiest ones? Just knock someone down or paralyze them with a scroll or damage their attributes and hit them with a shitty weapons a lot. You can go from 5 to 30 way too fast. Why do you think hand to hand is so easy to level? Only magic skills are ass to manually level.
>>748841148they literally are you stupid child
>>748831474one of the biggest complaints retards have about the game is they can't read
>>748841193You will never hit anything with a combat skill at level 5 mate.
>>748832471well does someone want to be the first?
>>748841245lol, lmao even, rofl if you mind
>>748841380You missed the whole point of my post because you've never played Morrowind for more than 20 minutes haven't you?
>>748841559>has bad opinions>talks like a faggotEvery time
>>748841559an actual stupid child reply, bravo
>>748841502what's "Skyrim combat"?I can already do active parry and block with mods https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58658hit can be turned on to 100% with mods again
>>748831474>read the manual>it actually doesn't tell you everythingEvery single faggot who tells you to RTFM when talking about Morrowind actually means that you should read the wiki, not the game manual.
>>748840434*Crassius
>>748831474>>every npc in the game perfectly gives you directions on where to golol lmao
>>748841801Not being able to attack while jumping and not being able to hold your attacks I guess. You gain other benefits like manual blocking and ragdolls.
>>748841245How are those themeparks??? Words have established meanings, or else we might as well be talking a different language.
>>748840905>doesn't adress any of the points madeI accept your concession
>>748839803Yooo, this gameplay is fire!
>literal actual unironic touristlmaoooooo
>>748842279themepark is when locations have distinct identities (and this is bad for some reason)
>>748842510The best part is that it's the very first enemy in the game and it can kill you and even if you win it can quietly infect you with a disease that will kill you when you try to fast travel away from the dungeon but a lot of people don't even get that far because the dungeon exit barely looks like an exitThis is unironically peak gaming
>>748831474But anon it's different! They just tell you exactly where to go and you either remember that or write that down! That's so much different than putting a marker on your map!
>>748831771daggerfall is the size of yo mama
But real talk, Morrowind gives you directions but half the time the directions fucking suck assRealistic? Sure. It's also realistic when I go back and kick the shit out of the NPC that gave them to me.
Computer... operate manual...
>>748843004Putting a marker on your map is ome thing (which MW ofter does). Having a compass that always points to the path you should take is another thing. You also get a literal journal so no you don't write quest directions down. But of course you never played the game and just spouted idiotic nonsense that makes zero sense.
>>748841606I've played it for much longer
>>748842183I see, easy mistake to make.That horn dog makes a lot of requests from you.
>>748844262Yet you still don't know that landing a hit on disabled targets is nearly guaranteed even with a 5 in your skill. Do your reps.
>>748840112>>748840427i read the entire daggerfall manual word for word, it outright lies about mechanics, either mentioning mechanics that aren't in the game, or improperly explaining certain mechanicsbut the funniest shit about daggerfall is that weapon tier (material = tier) is more important than anything else for the accuracy calculation, and you can get pretty much any tier of weapon during the tutorial (up to elven iirc)so in daggerfall, you could have one character built metastrong that barely scrapes out of the tutorial dungeon, ending with bronze gear that misses everything constantly, and you could have another built by a retarded child that spec'd entirely in to monster languages that gets an elven dagger in the tutorial and is immediately capable of killing anything in the game, i can't remember if you can spawn with elven, but i think you can spawn with steel which makes you accurate enough to reasonably kill something with elventruly, bethesda was always staffed entirely by retards
>>748844506I do, but I'm not going through the extra steps to do it. That's my point.
>>748831474I'd be more willing to have a go at finishing Morrowind if the world wasn't fuck ugly
>>748844751you can get an ebony dagger via the "gift from the emperor" question.
>every npc in the game perfectly gives you directions on where to go>"Go southeast from the town until you are at the crossroads with the boulder who looks like a hand, then head west until you are at the cave of Annurasalidibil. If you arrive at Amanadulidil, you went too far. Then head north towards the ravine. The cave entrance should be facing southwest."
>>748831474>perfectly gives you directionsb8theres a couple really egregious onesthe FG quest directions to ald redaynia comes to mind>just go north of molag mar broyea sure. how fucking far tho? half the map? SPOILERS: its in fucking sheogorad on an island not even attached to vvardenfellbut even still, as b8, its not entirely wrong. if you actually read what caius says when you ask him about blades trainers, hell give you a list of several agents in the area. if you go to these blades agents and ask them about "blades trainers" theyll usually give you something, as well as tell you something useful as well ex: the argonian in balmora gives you moon sugar and tells you the cats are the only ones who will buy it.the imperial cult questline, rushed as it is, also has some really useful beginner tips. they show how to make most of the basic healing/curing potions well before youd know those effects, and they give you some cheap starter alchemy equipmentbetween the in-game stuff, and just the general UI/tooltips, morrowind gives you a lot of opportunities to learn its mechanics just by playing. no need to even crack open the manual for most things desu
>>748845147>unironically spoilertagging for fucking morrowindwhat year is this, did the time machine work, is al gore still president
>>748844751Daggerfall had a pretty hellish dev cycle with a skeleton crew from what I remember. Bethesda as a whole were flying by the seat of their pants back then, with successes that were almost flukes.At least they had a good excuse for making buggy jank shit back then.But yeah, the mechanics are complete spaghetti and nothing works the way you think it would and a lot of it is plain broken (fixed by DFU.)I don't really think the game is worth playing for the minmaximizing/powergaming sort though. It's more of an immersive roleplaying masochism simulator. But people should at least figure out how to land hits on stuff.
>>748845080the funny part is that those are VERY good directions, and totally not indicative of the kinds of directions youd actually find throughout most of the game. thats very specific and gives several landmarks along the way. most dont even give you that. hardly matters either. even on default draw distance, it was pretty easy to navigate just on whatever the NPCs told you. the lions share of them are often just "follow this path till you get to [x], then go [direction]". which is often more than enough to get you right thereimo you gotta be retarded to get lost on vvardenfell for too long. the place just isnt all that big. nvm playing it nowadays where you can see several cells in every direction. navigation is just trivial now
>>748844829What extra steps, buying a scroll?
>>748834043No it wasn't you're just nostalgia blinded and/or easily impressed
Most of Morrowinds instructions are either fine or get you close enough that you can blunder your way there.The few times it gives you bad/wrong directions REALLY fucking suck though.
>>748841709>doesn't counter any points or explain position>calls everyone a childYou got absolutely assraped metaphorically, and soon literally.See you later ;)
>>748847152I love replies like this you can just tell his entire day is ruined
>>748845647i think lying to the player in the manual about unimportant stuff is based, especially so back then. ted just bullshitting and telling kids theres rumors of dragons out in the alikr is just great. its awesome. you miss an era where you could actually have some rumor like that exist for longer than a couple hrs.DFs manual just reeks of SOVL in general desu. if you were a kid back then you probably read that shit 100 times.
>>748843240Being able to go back and stick a dagger in some fuckhead for wasting your time is a mark in Morrowind's favor to me. Some stuck up dunmer being a cunt? Enjoy being teleported to a daedric shrine to the Lord of Rape. 50 gold for an hour long fetch quest? Hope you like drowning in a grotto.
>>748831474Youre right an rpg where most NPC's are like "idk man leave me alone" or just confidantly make shit up would be totally sick
>>748847736Was it lying or did the devs not even know what grandiose features had actually made it to the final build? Either way I agree that the weird sense of mystery and anything being possible really elevated things back then. To this day Daggerfall still feels larger than it actually is and its an understated part of the appeal.
>>748847152diff fag but what are your points?that youre too much of a bitch to handle privateers? DF dungeons arent that bad dude, you just need to git gud>use the map>mark your map>drop junk items or single coins to mark areas>use mark/recalleven the vanilla game gave you a ton of tools. 3D auto-fill in-game maps like that were NOT the norm back then.and also, this just isnt a problem anymore.they made a new setting for this exact reason in DFU. its called "smaller dungeons mode". its in the launcher. no mods needed. done. all non-MQ dungeons are 1/3rd to 1/5th the size.the problem is, after you play it for a second, youll realize 1 cell isnt enough to get truly lost. and getting lost in dungeons is at least half the fun>>748848214>Was it lying or did the devs not even know what grandiose features had actually made it to the final build?both
>>748848785>DF dungeons arent that bad dude, you just need to git gudThey are pretty bad and that's why they're greatIt's just that themepark sissies think they have to scour every inch of the dungeon for muh loots and get mad that there's no reward chest at the end with a free teleport to the surface. They think it's supposed to be a carefully curated haunted house for le chosen hero, instead of a place where monsters dwell and adventurers die and nothing more.To this day there's not a single other game short of actual roguelikes that treat dungeons with the respect they deserve.
>perfectly gives you directions on where to goin text, that you have to read and interpret and then go find the place yourselfas opposed to oblivion and skyrim that just point you exactly where to go on the map(You)
>>748831474>>748831656Morrowind haters are so goddamn schizophrenic. In one breath you complain that the game is too easy, then in the next breath you complain that it's too difficult to do basic things.>inb4 "/v/ is not one person"There is not a single other game where the discourse looks like this. The people who hate Morrowind can have the absolute polar opposite opinions, but then they adopt this cognitive dissonance where they're somehow all on the same side and the people who like the game are somehow in the wrong. Sort it out between yourselves, you goddamn retards.
>>748849526Do you bark at mirrors too?
>>748849743Rolstonfag, is that you?
>>748850029>so goddamn schizophrenicPlease continue, I enjoy when shit fanbases continue to prove me right via their own behavior
You can tell this is a garbage Morrowind thread because it hasn't even summoned Trainwiz.
>>748831474How can I read a manual in steam?
>>748831771>always grey and brownCartoon brained goy
>>748849435Skyrim is extra funny when you are looking for an item in a dungeon and you not only know the path to the dungeon like you've already been there, but also exactly where the item is inside of it.
>>748850481You have no argument yet you cared enough to reply. It's funny you think your vapid driveby remarks prove anything other than how much you're seething.
>>748850737
>>748850737usually the install folderyou can also right click the game in your library iirc
>>748850930Oh, thanx
>>748850881Skyrim actually took pains to make every dungeon somewhat unique instead of being a mishmash of prefabs thoughtlessly slammed together like previous TES games.The issue is that Skyrim also took pains to make dungeons totally frictionless as well. However, it turns out most people prefer this approach.
>>748850906hehehehehe
>>748851167Last (You) btw.
>>748851093>However, it turns out most people prefer this approach.Or they just don't know better.
>>748851285eziest schizo takedown of my life
>>748834180The last episode was all about him just not reading something and not getting anywhere because of it, I don't remember what it was exactly. I am now convinced he's just ragebaiting retards like me and I won't watch his channel anymore, already told youtube to not recommend anymore.
>>748852263>I am now convinced he's just ragebaiting retards like me and I won't watch his channel anymoreproud of you anon
>>748839007>"while being the chosen one"unironic media literacy issue. you have no right to belittle the game when you didn't understand the story.
>>748850529He's busy with his game IIRC
Why didn't Vivec fuck Dagoth Ur?
>>748849242>To this day there's not a single other game short of actual roguelikes that treat dungeons with the respect they deserve.Theres literally entire franchises built around this dumbass.
>>748853447Dagoth Ur has oneitis
>>748851093But Skyrim has no Zalkinkino
Trying to get through every dungeon in Morrowind is NOT fun
>>748853403right back at you. he wasn't belittling the game
>>748854051"casual RPG bullshit" is a put-down, ESL-kun.
>>748854165only if you are insecure about enjoying casual games
>>748849242tbf Morrowind CAN have enormous dungeons, it just doesn't for some reasonThere's nothing about the engine that prevents you from building a huge Daggerfall tier dungeon. It just has to be done manually so it's not feasible to make 200 of them to fill the whole game. And also if you DID spend all that effort you surely wouldn't make something that looks like a Daggerfall dungeon, because it'd be boring as fuck and repetitive for the developer. It'd be something like TR's Khalaan or Sotha Sil Expanded where there's a whole town partway inside or something, with manually placed NPCs and quests.
>>748851093Oblivion certainly got the shortest stick here>Morrowind has tons of generic tombs and grottos with nothing special inside, but you could also stumble upon top-tier loot or random quest stuff, you never know>Skyrim level scales everything, so you probably won’t find anything too out of ordinary, but at least most dungeons have something unique to them so playing through them isn’t utterly mindnumbing>Oblivion’s dungeons are the most obvious prefab shit ever, level scaling guarantees that every dungeon is equally likely to contain anything useful, and they sure as fuck contain no unique content beyond couple of exceptions that you can count with your fingers
>>748854165Only Morrowbabs think Morrowind is hardcore, any oldfag knows it was the casualfest of its time and the start of numerous ills
>>748855000Checked. And yeah all the linearity in the main quests of TES started with Morrowind
>>748831474The game doesn't fart blue gas in your face
>>748856065>Arena/Faggerfall larper
>>748856526>Implying Morrowind isn't the larpers favorite game to pretend to like
Live by the casualization-for-monetary-reasons, die by the casualization-for-monetary-reasonsAs for Todd? Well his just reward for decades of dumbed down consolization appeal to lowest denominator of a franchise he didn't even create was...Starfield. His legacy.
>>748831474Play as an Imperial cultist that doesn't steal. It's pretty fun.>t. Khajiit Kleptomaniac
>>748856065The main quest of Arena is a linear series of dungeons to pick up mcguffins.Daggerfall is also a series of dungeons where you pick up mcguffins. It's just presented in a way that seems more open, because there's a delay between stages that forces you to fuck around in the open world and level.Morrowind is the least linear of them because it doesn't even force you to level up. You can do whatever you want, you can even go straight to the final boss and fight him. Or kill important story NPCs and break the main quest. Daggerfall doesn't even let you attack anyone but generic townspeople.
>>748856994You can't chose to beat Morrowind without being the Nerevarine, fulfilling the prophecy yadada. Which has been the biggest source of complaint for every other TES game. I don't give a shit about Nerevar, I don't want to be his reincarnation and I certainly don't give a shit about helping Azura. But that's the only way of beating the game. Being cut out of the main quest is not a sufficient enough alternative. At least not for this game, whose fans outright lie to you and tell you it's ((("your story"))))
>>748857208>But that's the only way of beating the gameWho cares? Why would roleplaying as someone else care about "beating the game"?
>>748856932Planning on opening up a bookstore? Is this how all those Khajiit bookstores get their start?
>>748857284Again, it's because the reputation the game has is an outright lie. Just like how Todd lied about Fallout 4 letting you """"go where you want and be who you want""" so did Morrowind. It started with Morrowind
>>748857291Yes but only because I can't read :(
>>748834861>tfw got this when i was 12 years old and ruined it by marking umbras location on the map as a warrior i need to come back and fight later.
>>748857375Those are always lies but you are not voicing you complaint about Morrowind in a way I can understand. Why would not-Nerevarine roleplay have you take down Dagoth Ur? You can enter the dungeon and clear it out without striking the heart and even a roleplay as a super skilled adventurer would work. Why do you have to beat the game to complete a roleplay? And even taking Bethesda's lines at face value then the Nerevarine can be anyone you choose to roleplay as.
>>748857208>You can't chose to beat Morrowind without being the Nerevarine, fulfilling the prophecy yadadaYou literally can do that. Dagoth Ur straight up asks you if you are Nerevar reborn and you can say no.>I don't give a shit about Nerevar, I don't want to be his reincarnation and I certainly don't give a shit about helping AzuraOk? I don't give a shit about Lysandus, I don't want to be Uriel VII's agent and I certainly don't give a shit about helping the King of Worms. Oh no I can't beat the game, I guess Daggerfall is shit too?You just ignore the main quest in that case. At least in Morrowind you do have an alternative option to slay Dagoth Ur, even if you don't want to join the Blades or let Vivec live.>Being cut out of the main quest is not a sufficient enough alternativeSo you want to beat the main quest, but you don't want to do the main quest, but being cut out of the main quest is unacceptable?what did he mean by this?No really, how much more of a shortcut do you want than Morrowind's back path? Again Arena and Daggerfall have no equivalent to that anyway so I don't know how you can say they're somehow better.
>>748857583My thing has always been more why can't I side with Dagoth ur
>>748857663Valid, sure
>>748857663Because exclusively siding with a faction to affect the MQ outcome wouldn't be a thing again until ironically, Skyrim
>>748857659>So you want to beat the main quest, but you don't want to do the main quest, but being cut out of the main quest is unacceptable?No I just think more than 1 possible ending isn't an unreasonable expectation out of a game that calls itself an RPG
>>748857760isn't that how daggerfall endings work?
>>748831474What's the easy way to actually play through this game? I tried a warrior and kept feeling like I was missing out by not getting magic and couldn't cast even basic movement spells
>>748856932the imperial cult is an extremely underrated faction. it starts off as a great tutorial for new players with extremely useful rewards, then finishes with big, complex dungeons and endgame rewards. its a shame that most new players wont even find where the questgivers are because theyre in such an awkward place you have no reason to go to in the early game.
>>748858018pure warrior/thief/mage builds are some of the hardest to play. you definitely want a mix of different types of skills.
>>748858018Choose any raceChoose weapon skillChoose (un)armor skillChoose magic skill with the spells you wantChoose Athletics because you are a zoomerChoose Alteration or LockpickingChoose Speechcraft or IllusionLady SignMake money and buy whatever training you want. Collect trinkets that cover spells you don't want to train for.
>>748833659But how will I finish their questlines?
>>748857753TOTAL SLOAD DEATH
>>748859273You think you'll be missing out on some cinematic setpiece if you don't become arch mage? MW isn't like that, you just get more food for your roleplay and maybe a cool item.
>>748859570single player mmo
>>748859782Try again but make sense this time.
>>748859470This statue is offensive. You can make excuses like "it's just history" but the atrocities committed on indigenous and aquatic people of blubber cannot be erased. Did you know the statue wasn't even built at the time, but many centuries later by the Daughters of the All Flags Navy? It doesn't even belong in a museum, not in the town square. Fellow Imperial citizens, we must be better than this. I propose we replace the racist statue of hate with a community market, perhaps selling traditional Ja-Natta medicine and fine imported soaps.
>>748856752Wrong. Going backwards from Skyrim to Oblivion to Morrowind, it's reasonable to conclude that they become more sophisticated as you go further back. Retarded larpers like (You) will then try to extend that rule even further back to Daggerfall, but you'd be fucking wrong. In reality, the series' complexity and nuance really does peak at Morrowind. If you weren't a larping faggot and you actually played Arena and Daggerfall, then you would know they're about as simple as Skyrim.
Morrowind NPCs now reproduce
>>748860232See >>748857208You can like Morrowind but it's really not as deep of an RPG as people make it out to be. Likely because those people don't even know Morrowind's flaws because they all get it from secondhand sources like youtubers
>>748860302Instead of adding Skyrim to Morrowind, they added Skyrim players.
>>748860232i think daggerfall is way more sophisticated in terms of skill implementation/roleplaying, dungeon design,and player choice/freedom the main thing morrowind has on it is the balance with the less aggressive enemy/loot scaling
>>748861157Agree but I like Morrowind's Tamriel more as well as general aesthetic. The map loses a lot by not bring ambitious but the actual density feels nice. Overall it's more steps forward than steps back for my tastes, but I see why someone could like Daggerfall more.
Morrowschizos, not even once
>>748844262Child's numbers.
>>748860232Niggers, mainstream games like BG2 were already much more complex than Morrowind. Morrowind is piss easy because you cannot fuck up a character build. There's nothing to really comprehend. It's all just "number go ok, you do more damage and hit more often". And you have no limits because you can grind levels infinitely so it's not like you're gonna get gated from some skills or something. On top of that half the system is shit broken. Things like Personality being completely useless. Persuade being easily cheeseable by you just spamming click in one of the options nonstop until you eventually hit the good dice-roll and level up the skill. Mages being "we can do what every other class archetypes do but better" instead of balancing with things like penalties for using heavy armor among other stuff.You can like the game all you want but it is one of the most dumbed down old rpgs you can find
>>748862827>guys I have the game open even when I am not on the pc. Look at this "playtime"! eh... guys, do I fit in the cool hardcore rpgamer now?
>>748831474Navigating the world was a chore. The walk speed was far too slow. Then the combat was awful. It all just feeds into each other. Daggerfall was more playable.
real niggas clocked in most their hours pre-Steam
Schizo can't comprehend that some people just genuinely enjoy playing the game and has to make up fake scenarios in his head to justify his bullshit.
>>748862998>The walk speed was far too slow.You just don't get it. The game was telling you from the beginning that it was trying to waste your time. The second clue is seeing the low-effort mmo tier quests "go kill this shit for me an come back" absolute zero substance, nothing else to add in between
>>748863123T-trvke sama
>>748862998It was strange how we lost mounts for just 1 gameyet we had the boots of blinding speedI'm sure someone can come up with reasons why mounts and traveling quickly are bad
>>748862998>>748863123any post praising Daggerfall and shitting on Morrowind or the reverse is pure larp. The games are very similar both in design philosophy and gameplay, and almost every flaw in MW is magnified by going backward to Daggerfall. Also almost every Daggerfall fan is a fan of Morrowind and vice versa, PTR adopts tons of Daggerfall setting information and even ports books. The forced attempt at fabricating a conflict between fans of the two games has officially been nooooticed.
>>748863626tech issues with the 3d engine probably. the game had really awful performance on contemporary hardware and the game pauses to load the map every few meters and then factoring in the xbox
>>748863869Some of these posts are probably the Morrowschizo trying to create a victimization scenario
>>748863945And yet we had the scrolls of icarian flight lobbing newbies to Vivec, though there was probably a loading bar back in the day. Don't remember.Still though all a mount had to do move at running speed without draining stamina. They could've done some Bethesda magic like giving your player pants that looked like a Guar.
>>748863869Nigga I didn't even play Daggerfall (neither mention it in my comment). I am just talking specifically about pseudo intellectuals who actually think someone ever gets "filtered" by the complexity of their favorite game. When in reality Morrowind is really fucking shallow mechanic-wise.The only argument Morrowind fans bring is "b-but Oblivion and Skyrim!-". Like, yeah, fucking nobody considers those games complex. You saying Morrowind is more complex than them doesn't make it a hard game to understand.Then if you're talking about narrative and not game mechanics: Walls of narrative text in games cannot be complex. They can either be badly written or just a loredump snoozefest. But not complex. So no, your game not having voice acting doesn't make it complex either. And you're aiming for the bare-minimum at this point anyway because most RPGs don't have full voice acting in dialogues
Do damage attribute spells exist to solely inconvenience the player? I cant see why I would ever damage an enemy's attributes rather than simply killing it. Is there some secret to them I'm not seeing or are they just trash?
>>748864557Damage agility is pretty good early game. When a enemy's agility is at zero, most of their attacks will miss you and every hit you deal will have a 100% stagger chance.
>>748864557>why I would ever damage an enemy's attributes rather than simply killing it.play on max difficulty. morrowind is an easy fucking game, especially when you have elite ball knowledge. when even a lowly bandit poses a serious threat, youll reconsider the power to make someone unable to hit you.
>>748831474Unironically, Morrowinds quest design is garbage if you play it in modern times. 99% of people will just look up directions online if they get lost. Any game that compels you to look shit up out of game is poorly designed.
>>748864997Do you need every game to hold your hand
>>748834593>>748834851"Focus N'Wah"
>>748864817>>748864890But if I could damage their agility 100, couldn't I just do 100 fire/frost/spark damage and kill it anyway?
>>748831474I want to make a real time RPG shooting game where you auto target enemies and your stats determine if you hit or not but I'm afraid players won't like it.I said auto-aim because I think making the player aim AND also use their stats to determine a hit is double retarded. But a lot of people hate auto-aim too. All I know is I want it to feel more like an RPG than a shooter. What do you gays think?Should I kill myself?
>>748865354maybe you didnt spec into destruction. maybe you only have one of those and your enemy is highly resistant/immune to it. maybe they have more than 100 hp and you dont have enough magicka to cast it twice. its always better to have backup plans.
>tfw you get to the Ashlander tribes and it starts hitting you just how kino this game is>tfw you start fulfilling the Nerevarine prophecy even though you’re just a regular guy and you start wondering whether prophecies are a real magical reflection of fate or if they are political tools for control that act as a blueprint for someone to take the reigns of a community >tfw you discover warp/recall>tfw you cast water walking and leapfrog and skip across the waters towards the Telvanni town to facilitate yet another rape fantasy for the creepy wizards>tfw you discover the mudcrab merchant>tfw you manage to get where you needed to go with the boots of blinding speed>tfw getting lost in Vivec city’s cramped markets and apartments >tfw getting caught in an ash storm around the ghost gate >tfw visiting the strip club and harassing the strippers
>>748865753>maybe you didnt spec into destructionAnon... Damage attribute is a destruction effect.
Is there anything else you would add to a custom ruleset to increase difficulty and preserve challenge into higher levels?1. max difficulty1. max difficulty slider2. no creature merchants3. no boots of blinding speed4. no shadow amulet5. no conjuration spells or enchanted items6. no fortify attribute potions or custom spells
>>748831771play the game
>>748866226If you have to do all of that in order to have fun, have you considered playing something else instead?
Is there any logic to putting magic as minor skills if you're mainly a fighter / thief? Isn't it better just to leave them off minor skills so you can use training spells constantly and not worry about forcing levelups?
>>748866354Morrowind gets easy way too fast if you know what you are doing, challenge runs and limitations and restarting often are the only ways to keep it super fun for some.
>>748866161Enchanted item with damage agility effect. Uses Enchant skill, not destruction.
>>748866416It makes no difference to the question anon asked. If you can enchant a weapon with damage attribute then you can instead get one with fire damage or even better absorb health.
>>748866701>If you can enchant a weapon with damage attributeWho said I had to make it? You're given a enchanted bow with damage agility pretty early on in the main quest. That's why I said damage agility is pretty good to have early game. It can save your ass when up against a stronger opponent.
>>748866226Custom class banned. You can only use the pre-made classes.
>>748866998That's just inhumane
>>748867060Not really. I've been playing Morrowind for so long, that custom class is extremely boring to me now. You can minmax the shit out of the custom class and be overpowered right out of the gate. The pre-made classes don't have this problem. Pre-made classes have built in weakness that can make the game more challenging and provides better roleplaying opportunities. I've banned custom class from my playthroughs earlier this year, and I'm having fun with the game again.
>>748861157Almost all of those points are false and disingenuous. There is not a single TES game that is a properly good RPG, if you didn't already know that then I'm telling you right now. I know that about these games are and I'm fine with what they are. Daggerfall is also a terrible RPG, but even past that, it does almost nothing better than Morrowind. Morrowind gives you more freedom in terms of how much you can actually exert your will onto the world and affect it in a meaningful way. For one, Morrowind's NPCs are real and can die, as opposed to Daggerfall's townsfolk which are a fucking glorified weather effect.Not to mention that Daggerfall is an unfinished game at its core. As good as the character creator is, there's little "freedom" to be had because the game is so devoid of content. None of the supposed faction allegiance systems work properly, they're all mostly smoke and mirrors with zero gameplay implications.Daggerfall is better in terms of lifesim elements (as shitty and barebones as they are) but almost nothing in terms of role-playing elements. I wouldn't consider taking bank loans or buying houses to be "role-playing".Not to mention that almost none of the procgen quests were designed with branching solutions built in, even though they easily could have been. Nearly all of them are interchangeable crap.Also, Daggerfall's skill implementation is not better by any stretch. Fucking lmao. Don't even try to justify that take, Daggerfall's skills are absolutely terrible. The character creator is hard carried by the advantage and disadvantage system.
>>748831474This game was a mess. I can admit that underneath that mess was a very immersive experience, IF you could get past the mess. I definitely couldnt.
>>748868079This is the boat I'm in. I get why people like the game, it has some cool ideas. But I can say the same thing for a lot of Bethesda games. In the wise words of Clint Eastwood; all that matters is the execution
>>748866226Always use best attack = offBeast raceMedium ArmorNo alchemyNo Amulet of ShadowsNo Apprentice or Atronach birthsignsNo bound equipment spellsNo creature merchantsNo custom enchantmentsNo custom spellsNo Mark, Recall, Divine Intervention, or Almsivi InterventionDelayed expansions mod mandatoryNo other modsNo tauntingNo training
>>748868628>Beast raceWhy you think beast races are the hardest? He already removed boots of blinding speed. Altmer with lord birthsign is the hardest
So have there been any cool modding breakthroughs lately?
>>748866226First I use these modshttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/48065https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/47588https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/46036https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/45713https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/45714Then I just kind of don't do things that feel cheesy to me. Like no intmaxxing alchemy exploit. No 1 second enchants/spells to be used while paused. No resting repeatedly just to restock gold on merchants, and no creature merchants of course. No selling soul gems since the prices are stupid.I usually increase the difficulty slider gradually as I level up. I find if you max it immediately you just randomly die too easily.I mostly play TR so the goal is to wander around exploring and it's okay to eventually get strong, but getting strong too fast feels like it cuts the journey short. So I do things to offset that.Like if I have a character who's got a ton of valuables, I put them in a personal vault and display them instead of selling them just for gold that'll make me OP too fast.
>>748868829Beast races automatically remove BoBS and more. Their equipment limitations are 100% permanent and even though they don't make you eat absolute shit at the beginning, they do limit how powerful you can potentially become. This is in the spirit of the original question.
>>748869543I like playing as Khajiit because they can actually jump. Acrobatics scaling is so brutal you can't even get over a small ledge if you don't spec into it at all at character creation.
>>748834750post mod list
>>748866226>entire list is just an ordinary playthrough without using the wiki
>>748831474if you cant discern the difference between morrowind quest design and modern game design you shouldnt be allowed to drive.
>>748869876Maybe at the lower end, but I think Acrobatics is potentially one of the absolute fastest skills to powerlevel. If you walk up the ramps in Vivec, the collision there will allows you to spam jump on every single frame. I've done this a bunch of times and it's absurdly fast to get the skill up to 100. For that reason, I actually don't recommend putting Acrobatics in your major/minor skills, in some cases it can increase so uncontrollably that you could end up with a bunch of worthless level ups.
>>748870671I thought I had fucked up not selecting a class with any movement skills until realizing you can just jump around until +5 strength each level. unsure if levels themselves would've been better than maxing stats but it seems pretty useful this way
>>748831607level up your combat ability and you stop missing
Divided by the Thirr, united by the Three.
Reading is a boring and low IQ activity. It involves fewer senses than animation and sound, making it a form of consumption for lower life forms.
>>748874151You're reading right now RETARD
>>748874190Yeah, 4channelling is a low IQ activity.
>>748857663You would've been able to, but MW's development was messy as fuck, so that was cut.
"Violation" understates it.
>>748831771There's fast travel it's just baked into the world as a character unlock. Low level fresh off the boat adventurers have to use silt striders or pay the mage's guild for teleportation. High level adventurers can literally make their own fast travel markers using spells.I much prefer this system to Skyrim's dogshit magic map that lets you instantly teleport anywhere for no cost. Morrowind has fast travel: it just isn't through your map, requires NPC interaction and spell gathering, and requires gold or mana.Soul vs soulless. Loading screen with no explanation vs loading screen with ingame lore and character building.
>>748831474is this gameplay fire or not?
>>748869543Late game is always easy no matter what. They can't wear boots that the only downside. You don't even need armor in morrowind to be powerful anyway. Early on is hard and altmer with lord birthsign is the hardest. You can get one shot killed with a fireball no matter what
>>748875350you actually just don't get it chud
>>748875350IF YOU INTENEDED A DND LIKE, YESIF YOU DIDNT KNOW WHAT A DND LIKE WAS AND ENDED UP FEELING IT, YESIF YOU WANTED LE CALL OF DUTY NIGGER EDITION #REDD17, NOTHIS GAME WAS OBVIOUSLY MADE WITH PEOPLE THAT LIKE AND PLAY VIDEOGAMES, NOT REDDIT TOURISTSWITH THAT BEING SAID ITS LIKE 20 YEARS OLD AND THE WORLD IS DIFFERENT NOW SO KYS NEWFAG REDDITORS THAT DIDNT PLAY, UNDERSTAND, OR ARE NOT EVEN A REPRESENTATIVE -PIECE- OF THIS GAMEKYS NOOB; NEXT
>>748875350>just sit in the same spot using the same attack moveYou aren't doing it right
>>748831572I genuinely feel my IQ points going up when playing, and I'm not joking. The game forces the player to embody a higher state of being: a person who can read instructions, formulate a plan, and execute the plan all on their own.
>>748875017is this what molag bal shoved up vivec's urethra?
>>748875651crab...battle
>>748875676Well yeah reading is good for brain
I have no idea where people get the idea that Morrowind fans claim the game is one of the most complex rpgs mechanically. It's such a weird made up scenario.
>>748875858It does when fighting enemies
>>748875682Yes.
>>748875639 it was an attempt at an action rpg and it failed in both regards
>>748875676congrats on being 12+
>>748875676Read an actual book some time holy shit lol
TAMRUH
>>748875858Morrowschizos say a lot of stuffThen they insist they didn't say itThis has been going on for a whileNone of it matters but its funny
>>748875982IM NOT LISTENING TO YOUR POSTTHE GAME IS CONSTANTLY FEEDING YOU A STORY AND A WHOLE WORLD TO EXPLORETO EVEN CONSIDER THIS GAME "ACTION" IS RETARDEDEVERYTHING IS DONE WITH DICE ROLLS AND (IF YOU PLAYED THE GAME'S STORY) WILL INEVITABLY END UP WITH YOU BEING IN THE CENTER OF THE MAP, KILLING A GOD'S OBJECT (CENTER OF A MAP, WITH AN EXCLUSIONARY THING BEING UNIQUE TO VIDEOGAMES, ALTHOUGH ITS AN OBVIOUS TROPE)WHY YOU ARE TELLING ME THE FUCKING GENRE OF THE GAME WHEN ITS A 20 YEAR OLD RPG TECH DEMO THAT GREENLIT YEARS OF RPGS TO COMEI DO NOT CARE IT PLAYS FIRST PERSON. YES, YOU CAN IDENTIFY WITH IT BEING "ACTION" IN THAT REGARD. YOU -CAN- PLAY IT WITHOUT DOING ANY STORY AND JUST FUCKING AROUND. THE GAME IS NOT LINEAR.STOP TELLING ME DOGSHIT NIGGER
>>748876159Can you quote the archives where it is being said? Or you're just here to poison the well?
>>748875858They do though. Morrowind fans will talk about how the game feels like UR HECKIN STORY but then you argue against that, then they'll act like they never said it to begin with
>>748831607Spbp
>>748876213>THE GAME IS CONSTANTLY FEEDING YOU A STORY AND A WHOLE WORLD TO EXPLOREand maybe you found it impressive or interesting at the time but i didn't, and the actual moment to moment gameplay isn't good enough to make up for that
>>748876238Nothing you said makes any fucking sense. Kys ESL brownoid. Only ESzl brownoids hate morrowind
>>748876213BG3 mogs your shitty game lil bro
>>748876438>my tranny game is better
>>748876435>ESzlThat's embarrassing. Anyways Morrowind's story sucks ass
Holy shit they're well and truly off their meds again
>>748876438THEY ARE 20 YEARS APART "BRO" AND I KEEP STATING THE GAME IS 20 YEARS OLD. I PLAYED REDDIT GATE 3 AND IVE PLAYED MANY OTHERS CRPGS. IT DID NOTHING FOR THE CRPG GENRE BUT CLEARLY YOU UNDERSTAND GAMING AND HAVENT BEEN ON 4CHAN FOR LESS THAN 5 YEARS. KYS NEWFAGGOT>>748876410THERES NOTHING TO ARGUEIF YOU CANT SEE THE FANTASY GIVEN IN MORROWIND, LITERALLY KYSI STATED THE GAME IS BASED ON TABLETOPSCAN YOU TELL ME WHAT RELATION YOU HAVE TO TABLETOPS BEFORE YOU EXPRESS MORE OPINIONS, YOU FUCKING LOSER?
>>748876541gotta be honest with you seeing you freak the fuck out is more fun than morrowind was
>>748876230No, why would I know that. Do you think its normal for people to keep personal records of posts they saw? What is wrong with you, genuinely?
>>748876672The burden of proof is on you when making a claim.
How fucked would I be playing this game for the first time using TR or one of those huge expansion mods? I could play it vanilla sure, but then I probably wouldn't play it again with the mods for a long fucking time
>>748876694This isn't a formal debate and you also need to take your meds again
>>748876586NIGGER, I CALLED YOUR OPINION OBJECTIVELY SHIT AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS GUFFAW TO YOURSELF? I -LITERALLY- INSULTED YOU. I THINK YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID PERIOD... AND YOU CANT EVEN DETECT IT.>HA THIS GUY IS JUST TALKING... I AM SUPERIOR...R U LITERALLY A FINAL FANTASY CHARACTER? ARE YOU SOME ZIPPERHEAD NIGGER?UNIRONICALLY GO BACK TO PLEBBIT, YOU CLOWN (ALSO I KNOW YOURE A ZOOMER CUZ OBVIOUSLY BITCHING ABOUT MORROWIND IS WHAT US MILLENIALS GIVE A FUCK ABOUT (ALREADY FUCKED AND TOSSED THAT SHIT, BOY))
>>748876760If you refuse to substantiate your claims, I can just dismiss whatever you say as ravings of a retard, which is what they are presently. Have a good one, anon.
>Morrowschizos
How are there so many people in a thread about a game they seem to despise, I don't get it. What happened to people where they prefer to talk about things they hate rather than things they like
>>748876838Unorganic threads pumped by jews
>>748876838ZOOMERS ARE LIKE 22 YEARS OLD NOWWHAT DO YOU THINK THEIR FUCKING MINBD IS LIKE GROWING UP ON REDDIT UNIRONICALLY? (4CHAN HAS BEEN SITTING HERE BITCHING AT FEMINISTS AND JEWS FOR 10 YEARS STRAIGHT...)
>>748836191I think this is just projection
>>748876838When a fanbase is extremely obnoxious and goes around spamming their shit everywhere, there shouldn't be surprises when their discussions are attacked as result.
>>748839945As much hate as Starfield gets, its not enough.
>>748876838You're a clown and this is your circus. People have come to point and laugh. Dance for us clown, dance.
>>748876838Morrowind threads have always been very negative. The "fans" of this game have always spent more time crying about the other elder scrolls game than anything else. But their constant bitching about other rpgs has circled back around to them since everyone knows the emperor has no clothes
>>748838780The combat is one thing, but i genuinely think its impossible for me to get over how god awful ugly this game is.
>>748876880Why the fuck would the jews give a flying shit about morrowind
>>748876946Nah I was just trying to understand why vidya threads in general are like this now where it's just a bunch of people venting and flinging shit at each other. Rarely do we ever get comfy actual discussion threads made by and used by people who sincerely like the game they're discussing. Seems like it's especially a thing with morrowind threads though I meant to ask this in a ninja gaiden thread last night but forgot
>>748877120>PEOPLE ATTACKING EACH OTHER IS... LE BAD!!!!I AM ALLOWED TO SAY PEOPLE THOUGHTS ARE OBJECTIVELY BAD, YOU LIBERAL KEK NEWFAGGOT.OBVIOUSLY I HAVE TO TELL A NEWFAGGOT LIKE YOU THAT WHEN EVERYSINGLETHREADIS A LOADED GUN MADE BY REDDDITORS TRYING TO SHOOT DOWN A RANDOM MISNOMER OF BASIC LIFE AND TURN IT INTO "RELATIVE NORMALITY" (SEE: PERCEPTIVE DISFUSE) THEN YOU WONDER WHY 4CHAN HAS BEEN FIGHTING BACK AGAINST NORMALFAGGOTS FOR LIKE 20 YEARS/LITERALLYLITERALLYLITERALLY EVERY OTHER THREAD IS A TOTAL NIGGER FIGHT GASLIGHTING TOTAL FAGGOT DEATHTHE FACT THAT YOU CANT EVEN -PERCEIVE- THIS IS BEYOND EVEN THOUGHT. I KNOW YOU ARE A TOTAL NPC. I KNOW IM JUST TALKING TO A GHOSTFUCKING UNIRONICALLY KYS YOU TOTAL PIECE OF SHIT; JUST SHITPOSTING SOME FUCKING OPINION, NO REALITY REALLY THERE
>>748877120Threads only survive here with perpetual conflict bumping them. Or AI bots nowadays I guess. Eitherway, that's why every thread is clickbait, engagement bait, twitter screencaps, etc. Any peaceful or genuine thread gets pushed off in minutes.>ninja gaidenNote how almost every character action game thread these days starts off by attacking Souls or something.
>>748877120MW threads are usually comfy discussion when this guy is asleep. that's just how 4chan is now, most threads have a dedicated schizo who does this kind of thing
>>748877073It has racial conflict in it
>>748877321Yeah with elves and lizards and shit
>>748877358Jews non semitic fiction and they hate the concepts too
>>748877307>most threads have a dedicated schizo who does this kind of thingYeah it's pretty gay, even abiotic factor and look outside got their own dedicated schizo shitting up and derailing every single thread with bait when it first released. Nioh threads were comfy until 3 came out and now we can't have nioh threads anymore. Idk if it's bots or third worlders who are just bored and have nothing else to do but it's insanely boring how many 'people' here exist in a thread just because they have that much of a bone to pick with a game.
>>748877268do you think typing in all caps and acting like a newfag will get you more attention or something
>>748877575BUT YOURE SHITPOSTING
>>748831474>"this game doesn't hold your hand"No but Crassius WILL try to Harvey Weinstein your ass.
>>748841502>skyrims combat is physics and timing basedYou're gonna run into a dead end with this one.
>>748866373>worry about forcing levelups?I want autists to fuck off
>>748866373It's a tradeoff of having them higher in the early game vs. getting better stats on each level.honestly this is a flaw in MW's game design, ideally you'd have no major/minor skills at all except one because it gives you the best stats, which is silly.I use this so I dont have to think about it, and just pick major/minor skills in whatever my character would be good at RP wisehttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/48065
>>748877729lmao holy shitAIs man
>>7488629711000 hours in a game people like is not uncommon for those that have had it for a while.
