Why does Silent Hill 2 get all the recognition and praise, while Silent Hill 3 remains so underrated?
heather is wearing a hat hehehe
>>7488543943 is overrated1 is the real gem everyone ignores
>>748854394sh3 is a lazy asset flip
2 was meant to appeal to midwits hence its popularity.
>>748854632Cope. Heather is pure soul. James is fucking cringe. >Muh dead wife I'm a le sadcel
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>>748854394SH2 is the "normie bait", as it's the easiest and LEAST scary of the original Team-Silent games.It also seemingly distances itself from the clearly occultic elements of the franchise, which makes it more digestable for the ADHD hipsters that love to make and watch 2-hour-long lore videos on YT.Not only that, but SH3 is a direct sequel to SH1, meaning it really does not stand on its own.And with that, a daily reminder that Silent Hill 1 > all the others. It has the best pacing, best town design, best overall difficulty and scares levels, the best replay value, and the best MC.I am NOT looking forward to the Polak faggots at Bloopooper raping this masterpiece with their UE5 slop.
>>748854842I wonder how many nu-fans played #3 without ever finishing SH1, thus missing the significance of all these scenes and Harry's notes ...
The story sucks. The cult plotline is boring and so are all its characters. The best one was Lisa Garland in SH1, who is a less interesting version of Angela.
>>748854394because SH2 didn't drop a fucking bridge on the SH1 protagonist, as well as try to retcon him into a wannabe child molester
SH3 is mechanically the best game. It's ruined by absolute retarded balance decisions like the slurper enemies. What the HELL were they thinking?
If anything, it looks like SH3 is the fanbase's favorite game these days due to the American SH games treating 2 like it's the only one that matters.
>>748856709I guarantee they will fuck up the pacing. Modern horror game devs have no idea how to pace a horror game. The SH2 remake taking inspiration from Dead Space was so damn stupid.
It isn't. SH3 is by far the second most popular game in the series to the point that many speculated they would skip the SH1 remake and go straight to SH3.
3's a diamond in the rough. Incredible aesthetics and a solid sense of fight-or-flight enemy design, but it was cobbled together in 9 months and you can kind of tell with the very linear structure and unusually short length. That all said, it's still a significantly better video game than 2, which is hard carried by its story and characters.
>>748854394SH3 is a good game that should have been great and was fucked over by Konami being Konami. Konami was pissed that SH2 sold less then SH1 and only allowed SH3 if they codeveloped SH4 at the same time AND in under a year. SH4 is near kuso tier because it was basically the B team's game. Even though they fulfilled this request and SH5 was in the planning phases Konami still shut down Team Silent.SH3 is good and it's honestly amazing it's as good as it is considering their limited development time, Ito said the final boss was made in a weekend to meet the deadline, but it's obviously compromised in a number of ways. SH1 is the best entry, it was developed in the mid 90s after RE1 sold a fuck ton in 96 so Konami hadn't gone to total shit and didn't interfere with the development. No entry feels as complete in its vision as SH1.
>>748856709I agree. I don't mind SH2 so much because it actually was fucked up enough for a mediocre remake to still right some wrongs, but SH1 is genuinely a good game.
>>748857149You can tell the exact moment they ran out of budget (the amusement park haunted house segment).
>>748857059>I guarantee they will fuck up the pacing.And the gameplay. And the art-design, audio, voice acting, music... everything.>The SH2 remake taking inspiration from Dead Space was so damn stupid.Well, Dead Space was just an evolution of the same shit the SH Homecoming was years prior. The most painful part about all this is that where as back in 2009-2012 every single soul on this planet openly loathed Konami and Tomm Hulett for even daring to release such garbage with SH's name on the market, the current younger generation of PS5 players were born and raised by such slop.>>748857126>SH3 is by far the second most popular game in the seriesIncorrect. SH1 and 2 have been the two giants standing toe-to-toe for over two decades now. 3 has always been the fanbase splitting odd one, with only the #4 sitting further away in the cuck-chair.Praise towards #3 is a very recent Tumblr era thing, and sparks solely from the fact that Heather is an nontraditional cutie.
>>748857126>SH3 is by far the second most popular game in the seriesSH2 Remake and SHf are the best selling games in the series now. It's not the late 00s/early 10s anymore, the current era is actually making some commercial headway.
>>748857217I recently went back to play PS1 classics and decided SH1 is better than RE1/2. The PS1 Resident Evils are ugly as hell and are inferior to SH1 in almost everything. It's a marvel of a game.
>>748857394Yeah but do you really think in a decade when someone asks "which Silent Hill should I play?" anyone will say 2 reame and F over SH1-3?
>>748854751you just wanna fuck her
>>748857465a decade from now nobody will be playing video games
>>748857465I would hardly say that's impossible at this juncture. No purist would say that, but purists are about 20 years removed from their heyday.
>>748857539I will
>>748854394Literally the only reason this game has any following is because waifufags are obsessed with Heather.There's also the cool special effects in the other-world, but nobody really cares about those.Everything else is pretty bad.The story is half-assed fanfiction tier continuation of 1, the pacing is completely retarded (the whole first half is you getting back home from the mall), the bosses are utter shit, and the good half of it, is borrowing ideas from 1.It also kills Harry offscreen with some random monster.Contrarian fags that need to shit on 2, at least can opt for 1 or 4, but praising 3 you will only ever find waifufags.
>>7488543942fags eat up all the trauma and therapy town shit, but 3 obviously needed more time and it suffered from it.
>>748857714SH3 has the best presentation, controls, and combat in the series. Its atmosphere is unmatched.
>>7488543943 had the better soundtrack. Fight me.
>>748857480You just wanna get topped by le sad man
>>748854394Because it's objectively worse than the first two games and less interesting than SH4. Its story is nothing but an appendix to SH1. It has rehashed locations from SH2. It also has some of the worse levels on the franchise outside some of the Haunted House in the amusement park. Only Heatherfags care about it.
>>748856709It's a shame that SH1 is the only game where you actually properly explore the town. Being able to walk through a spooky little town and enter the buildings was a highlight of the game for me. I wonder if that's what Silent Hills would have been.
>>748857924>Because it's objectively worse than the first two gamesNo it isn't. It has a worse story, but story isn't the point of these games.
>>748854581THAT'S NOT FUCKING FUNNY STOP LAUGHING
>>748857876If James was a femboy I may reconsider
>>748854394Silent Hill 2 is very overrated, its because of journalists like IGN. They pushed the idea that 2 is the one and only despite its gameplay being dogshit and its story being silly, the way they explored mental illness was juvenile and insulting.
>>748857962To be fair exploring the town with air screechers breathing down your neck was a pain in the ass. When I play horror games I like to take in the atmosphere, while the town sections encourage running past everything.
>>748858115That's an issue with the combat design/enemy placement, not the concept.
>>748858115It also makes getting the good ending unintuitive, because who the fuck is gonna explore the town when they have an air screecher nipping at their ass 24/7
>>748857962It's so bizarre how dungeon based the later entries became. You have some town exploration in SH2 but it feels like filler compared to SH1 where both the "open world" exploration of the town and the dungeons it leads you to are equally important. SH3 was rushed so I get it but it's only town exploration waa via asset reuse of SH2. Silent Hill is kind if a difficult premise because it's impossible to keep the idea of it being a bumfuck middle of nowhere town but keep adding on to the town. I think the best idea would have been to show the town in different time periods, that way you can both keep the town relatively the same while also making it different enough between games that it doesn't become a tired setting.
>>748854394SH3 is easily the worst out of 1, 2, and 3. 1>2>3, 4 is not up for consideration that's how bad it is.
>>748858218>I think the best idea would have been to show the town in different time periods,Actually the best idea was to introduce the concept that ANY town could become Silent Hill. A Silent Hill phenomenon if you will. IDIOT
>>748857394To be fair, the first three games are abandonware.
>>748858115>>748858202Skill issue.
>>748857964The whole point of these games is horror and immersion. It looks better than all the other Silent Hill games but it just falls short in its impact precisely because the story and characters are flat and shallow. Homecoming has better controls and it is a shit game. Townfall looks great and it still a pile of shit too. Techincal shit does not matter in these games when the sums of its parts amount to nothing but for a mediocre story and moments.
>>748857714>1 being a contrarian pick>opting for 4 over 3
>>748858115Beside rompers, who are specifically designed to be the major end game threats, overworld enemies usually gave quick kill strategies. When air screamers dive at you or groaners jump at you you can quick kill them. You can pump them full of lead too but it wastes way more time.>>748858313That's a fucking terrible idea. The game is called SILENT HILL, SILENT HILL should behave unlike anywhere else on the planet and never not be the central focus of the game.
>>748854394>Silent Hill is kind if a difficult premise because it's impossible to keep the idea of it being a bumfuck middle of nowhere town but keep adding on to the town. Yeah I mean a horror town that's half in another dimension and half in your head totally has to have a stable map you can put on a wiki and make a deep dive video essay about how it developed through the years idiotic zoomer American.
>>748857307>look at my ebin oldfag badge guise please take me seriouslyhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/PUKRaAoyyUdGjHTS-YIpOA/
Playing Crow County made me realize how much environmental design matters in this genre. CC's actual mechanics are some of the best in the genre, but the environments suck ass. SH1's otherworld segments still look and feel amazing to this day.
>>748858509Hello new friend, you can click the post number of the comment you want to reply. No need to thank me, all in a day's work.
>>748858486>The game is called SILENT HILL, SILENT HILL should behave unlike anywhere else on the planet and never not be the central focus of the game.Uh-oh, sounds like somebody didn't play Silent Hill 3 or 4!
>>748854751I was going to make an effortpost in here but then I see retarded buzzword salads like this being shat out by some underage fucking faggot from his phone and it reminded me I need to stop visiting this place because it isn't 4chan anymore.
>>748857307Dead space?Didnt they literally just use the calisto protocall assets?Doors in the fog world do that airlock shit when your going from zone to zone
>>748858078>like IGNIGN rated the first game a 9/10.
>>748857307Give it up anon. I too remember when Dead Space released and people on here weren't retarded children raised on social media so nuance was possible and we could acknowledge it being casualized while still having merit to it. You are wasting breath on this shithole, the people you are arguing with were likely shitting in diapers in Homocoming was new
>>748858585I think those games moving the setting to outside of the town was an awful idea personally. By SH3 the lore ends up becoming overly convoluted, even as a fan of the game there is no reasonable explanation for Leonard's existence. The series should have kept the trend of very loosely related stories tied together by the setting.
>>748854394>while Silent Hill 3 remains so underrated?lmao
>>748858536Someone is mad that we OGs are still around and putting a sock in Jewnami's mouth, it seems.>>748858689I was referring to the OG Dead Space, not the remake.SH Homocoming dropped around a year before DS1, and is arguably the earliest case of the over-shoulder dodge 'n' stomper.>>748858793>You are wasting breath on this shitholeAnd so are you, dear brother.Vidya and shitposting on the 4-chinz can easily be claimed to be waste of time. Fortunately, games ain't just silly little things to me, and I've never found pushing buttons on my keyboards to be exactly "demanding".>the people you are arguing with were likely shitting in diapers in Homocoming was newFor sure. Hell, some of my IRL colleagues literally were BORN the year I got my bachelors degree.
>>748858808I get that. But at the same time, I like the idea of Silent Hill ascending to a concept, as opposed to a physical location. Like how Fargo doesn't actually appear in "Fargo" for a single second, since Fargo represents something much greater. Or how "Chinatown" isn't in Chinatown, because Chinatown is a metaphor for the theme
>>748858072Too bad they never made more of that Heather femboy comic
>>748859006I mean it's a waste in the time in the sense that 4chan used to be funny and there was a sense of commonality here with tastes towards games diverging from shit eating casuals, but that is long since past and the vast majority of posters here are total morons incapable of talking about anything.
>>748858479Yes, it's a contrarian pick to not recognize that 2 is the most well rounded, interesting Silent Hill of all.I still love 1 though, since it was my first.And yes, Silent Hill 4 has plenty of interesting ideas and its own identity, instead of trying to capitalize on fan service like 3.
Why does no one ever talk about how SH2 is almost a dark reflection of SH1's premise? James being a young windower is obviously meant to invoke the feeling of him being like Harry but ultimately the game presents him as less noble in his ultimate goal. Harry was a good man through and through, unlike James were how you view his morality shapes his ultimate outcome.
>>748859031>Like how Fargo doesn't actually appear in "Fargo" for a single second, since Fargo represents something much greater. It represents aping the mannerisms of the movie across an uninspired and lame tv show, which is a perfect analogy for the raping of SH your stupid worthless subhuman ass is defending.>Or how "Chinatown" isn't in Chinatown, because Chinatown is a metaphor for the themeYea following up a comparison with a completely different one is very intelligent, you totally aren't a disgusting sack of filth your mother should've aborted. Fuck this shithole and the human waste infesting it now, fucking normalfag piece of shit.
>>748854394SH2 > SH3Simple as thatBut is SH3 is a good game too, not as good as 2SH2>SH1>SH3>SH4imo
>>748859240>>748859208Stop phoneposting and using zoomer lingo, underage faggots.
>>748859231This is how a totally not-mentally ill person talks btw
>>748854394I always wondered this but for silent hill 1 rather than 3, since I don't play silent hill I just assumed the rest were dogshit but 2 was a diamond in the rough
>>748859308Fuck off nigger.
>>748859278I'm on a PC and didn't use any "zoomerlingo", what the fuck are you on about?
>>748859278>>748859376
>>748859208>2>the most well rounded, interesting Silent Hill of allWhich is why 70% of the game must force you down narrow hallways, because the "well-rounded" enemy AI totally works if you have more than 8 square feet of space to work with. At least 3 has enemies with a real aggro state.
>>748859163I disagree!I've met some cool motherfuckers on this board just in the past few short years.Yeah, Hiro let the shill-bill faggots in and let them make it their bastion, but if anything it's a joy to bring some of that oldschool interwebs into these normalfag tourists face every once in a while, and see them flee like rats on a sinking ship.
>>748859390Stop phoneposting and using zoomer lingo. Stop fucking talking back when you are berated for your horrible behavior.
>>748859376>It represents aping the mannerisms of the movie across an uninspired and lame tv showWtf are you talking about? I wasn't even talking about the TV show >the raping of SH your stupid worthless subhuman ass is defending.Silent Hill 3 and 4 weren't "raping" the franchise, homo>Yea following up a comparison with a completely different one is very intelligentThe comparison is very apt. "Fargo" is a metaphor for the violent crime that suddenly comes to Brainerd and drives the conflict of the plot; "Chinatown" is a metaphor for the institutional corruption that drives the conflict of the plot.Have you even seen the movies? Have you even played Silent Hill?? What are you doing participating in this discussion?
>>748859529Fuck off nigger.
>>748859659I have never received a more thorough concession. I appreciate your humility and being able to recognize when you're wrong
>>748859773Fuck off nigger.
>>7488543941>3>2 but all three are good. What do you mean there's more Silent Hill games?
>>748859884Sensible anon is sensible.
>>748859884It may comes as a shock, but there's exactly ONE (1) more Silent Hill game: #4!You should give it a go, Matt
>>748856861>as well as try to retcon him into a wannabe child molesterwhat??
>>7488543943 definitely scared, and scares, me the most. Whatever fed that development taps into my nightmares like nothing else
>>748854394Sh2 made the town gay and gave it a retarded backstory about nuh trauma. Should have stayed random town affected by psychic girls kino
>>748859958LOOK AT THIS SCIENTIST
>>748860070A lot of the imagery, sound and monster design in it is extremely unnerving. I personally find it to be much scarier than 2, 2 I always found to be more depressing than anything, and it feels like a proper evolution of 1. It absolutely does have a ton of issues but I still think people give it too much shit.https://youtu.be/yVwYgtaBbqI?t=481
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>>748859031I feel like that anthropomorphizes the power of the town and going that route with the premise is far less interesting in my opinion. Silent Hill as a location being the sole place this kind of power exists presents a sense of "believability" to the premise, even if overtly supernatural it's relative secrecy is understood. Giving the town an "agenda" in that it wants to spread just doesn't feel in line with how we see it represented in game. Lisa is such a tragic character not just because she is a perfect copy of the real Lisa and truly innocent, but we see that even as corrupted as the power of the town has become there is still a semblance of that pure, untainted power within it. It's not that Silent Hill's power couldn't be used for positive things, it's just so corrupted that it can't stop itself from creating abominations.
>>748859884>>748859958>he doesn't know about SH1.5ngmi
>>748858554Based Crow County mention
>>748860447>implying I don'tI literally played that thing blind, not knowing a lick of Japan, some 20 years ago.It has a fully translated PC port now, btw:https://www.mediafire.com/file/gk7ya97018xu6ls/SHPN_1.0.5.zip/file
Atheist normies like >>748856792 who don’t get it, despite it really being about the horror of female puberty, pregnancy, rape, cult brainwashing, religious trauma blah blah blah we all know it but all that ties into the spiritual and esoteric stuff as well anyway
Silent Hill 2 is a standalone experience whereas Silent Hill 3 basically required you to play SH1 to get the full context. Both are great games, but what SH2 accomplished it much harder to replicate.
