>microprose recreating the good parts of the 90s with a new IP>look inside>everyone lived happily in cities until ford attacked>cars are killing the planet>cows are a plot to sell more cars>you see, general motors calls SWAT teams out on peaceful protestors>volkswagen builds skyscrapers so you need to drive to work>jaguar drills for oil, right next to your home, so they can buy your property off your landlord, evict you, and force you to buy a disgusting suburban home with a car hole>toyota buys subways just to close them down>and subaru makes joke food cars for you to drive, like the little piggy you are>if you don't like what I just said it was all a joke but if you agree with me I was being 100% serious!I thought satire was supposed to be funny.
>>749068281Take your meds
>>749068281it's called satire try being less sensitive you fucking DORKI can feel the carfag emanating off you
>>749068281satire is only good when its not made by a clearly deranged troon
>>749068958Was Hardspace Shipbreaker made by troons? It was a fucking awful attempt at "satire". Can't be "satire" when the whole story thread is about unionization and workers rights.
>>749068958satire is almost always shit doesn't matter who is making it
>>749069275>I hate corporation who uses me as a meat puppet>which is why I, as a worker, want to own it with no change in meat puppettingI'm not sure what the moral of their story was
>early accessinto the garbage
>>749068281effective satire requires at least some amount of understanding and affection for what is being satirized pure seething hatred isnt enough you need to truly understand what youre making fun of otherwise it will always come off as insincerethink of that satire of MDE that came out in 2016 that ends with "im forgotten" which is all anyone remembers of it because of how immediately self defeating and ironic it wasit left no impact at all because the creator was clearly not very familiar with sam hyde or mde and could not come up with a good criticism beyond calling him mean or racist and in the worst cases the thing being criticized will be so misunderstood by the satirist that the thing itself will be elevated thats how you get people liking media for "the wrong reasons"think of starship troopers or joker contrast this with the movie Airplane! the film makers had a love for the genre they were making fun of and as a result the jokes remain entertaining long after the subject of the satire had died
except the personal automobile has been a blight on humanity and this is not up for debate
>>749069954>this is not up for debateSitacuisses philosaphus mansisses.
>>749071315this, I tent to agree to many /n/fags discourses, but man they are annoying
>>749068281>long-winded seethingStruck a nerve, huh?The game looks fun and having primarily car based infrastructure is bad. Don't be so sensitive.
>>749069954>t. cyclist Why should anyone respect some loser in a jersey that shells out for a an entire racing bike setup just to pedal along surface streets at 7 miles per hour
>bought a 2019 Subaru with super low miles for a steal earlier this year>Gets 45 MPG somehowBest financial decision I've ever made
>>749072006>you see that 1950s white picket fence for two? That's a McMansion, no I won't model it to look like a McMansion>wouldn't you rather live in a moldy shoebox 50 floors up and get on a bus? I love buses, you meet so many... friendly... people on them
>>749071903It's easier to preach about ethical superiority and responsibility of individual people than actually organising people into movements that can actually start have weight in changing things.
>>749072417The cope is indeed deep.
>>749072851I can walk to the supermarket where I can find anything I want.
Trump really fucking needs to do something about these people.
>>749068281Where's the lie?
>>749072851I was going to say that caring more about the message than your game or your comedy routine, ruins the point.But then, let me ask you, why did you use that image? You do know Kirk is the loser in this scene, right? You don't get the Chad vs Virgin meme format wrong too, right?You do know that stuff doesn't just appear in a convenience store and has to be driven there, right?
>>749073154>You do know Kirk is the loser in this scene, right?Yeah. Have you seen the way urbanists glorify bodegas? Have you seen what they actually look like, versus a real grocery store?
>>749073107my car is the only way other people can know that im straight and definitely not gay and when people dont like it the devils temptation in my head gets louder and it makes me mad
>>749073358yeah i know in the EUSSR you cant even buy pure concentrated red 40 at the shart mart and then get killed by karen t boning you in her toddler crusher 9000 at 90mph on the way home. they dont even have mascots for their stores with collectible merchandise to sell upmarked on ebay and show your brand loyalty oh the humanity
>>749073749What the fuck are you talking about?
>>749073921dont play dumb
>>749073967MCDONALDS!
They had NotJustBikes do a trailer narration. Hes an annoying pisslet who bitches about stroads and bikeability, so yeah the humor probably will suck.
>>749073967We were robbed…
Where is the event where you have a "teen takeover" to encourage even more car usage?
>>749072006Kill yourself rabbi. I will not take the bus, I will not interact with the urban youth, I will not stop owning guns, I will not "catch up to modern Europe".
The thing that bewilders me is that Americans will build car centric societies even free from the minorities they hate. It is an entire culture of people who yearn for a cultist compound.
>>749073921That's a Jew trying to convince you that the European austerity and extinction model of existence is the only way for you as a white man to truly live.
>>749073107>>749073412>cars killed le humanity and also people who drive them are just homophobes who are afraid of being gay like I'm gay everyone is gay dicks dicks dicksPlease become roadkill.
>>749074325america was founded by deranged schizophrenic cultists who thought 16th century england was degenerate
>>749074391Seriously, there are people in rural Oregon and Idaho who should have beautiful towns with the church at the center where they know the butcher, the bread maker, the local mechanic but they don't. They drive 2 hours away to a huddle and buy Costco shit and play fun with ARs they will never use. It's just so strange. I've seen it.
Okay but the game does look fun. It's the same criticism Two Point Hospital had, really.
>>749073984You need some sort of grounding in reality to make satire work, can't just make schizophrenic ramblings.reality: In America, guns are easier to purchase than most other countriessatire: In America, guns can be purchased at the corner store (example GTA)schizo nonsense: In America, guns are used as currency, every man, woman, and child have them, babies in cribs have one. WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN GERMANY!
>>749074330>muh trugg and corn syrup is saving the white race o algothank you for your valuable insight
What is your favorite Nu-Microprose game?
>>749074572It's called a joke.
>>749073358Oh, sorry, I thought you were the first anon. It gets hard to tell when someone's actually against something, when someone fanatically for it says the exact same thing but in their mind it's a good thing.
>>749074276*Gets plowed into by Shaniqua in a uninsured clapped out GMC Yukon on tbe highway and dies instantly*
>>749068281Driving is miserable and care suck and I’m tired of pretending otherwise.My car is just a money pit that brings minimal value to my life or any enjoyment, and driving is always an awful experience, dealing with traffic, retard drivers, insane illegal and dangerous activity where I’m constantly on edge that I will have an accident and either get raped by insurance just be crippled/die.I would get down on my knees and thank Lord Jesus Christ if they tore up the highways and built a massive train network like in China or Europe, I would never ever drive again in that case and be happier for it.
>>749074572>In America, guns are used as currency, every man, woman, and child have them, babies in cribs have oneThat is pretty funny satire
>Driving is miserable and care suck and I’m tired of pretending otherwise.>>My car is just a money pit that brings minimal value to my life or any enjoyment, and driving is always an awful experience, dealing with traffic, retard drivers, insane illegal and dangerous activity where I’m constantly on edge that I will have an accident and either get raped by insurance just be crippled/die.>>I would get down on my knees and thank Lord Jesus Christ if they tore up the highways and built a massive train network like in China or Europe, I would never ever drive again in that case and be happier for it.
>>749074974>>749074724When you actually try to compare it to your own country as a mark of inferiority it falls apart, though.
>>749074663Highfleet. Nothing else comes close.
>>749073967Reminds me of toy sets with wooden peg people in cars>>749074572>babies in cribs have one.That is one way to put the toilet service in the gameI thought it was just a dumb car wash joke but the little person shits on his car seat and then it all gets washed away in a whirlpoolIt's like something you'd expect in Idiocracy except for it not making fun of a corporation that exists
How many children need to die before they ban hoods like this?
>>749075005>woah epic scenic vistaFor every moment where you can relax and drive in a nice area alone there are endless hours of being stuck in traffic or paying car related bills or paying for gas or having something break down or dealing with utter retards who can’t drive on the road and so on.It not worth it and driving isn’t actually that fun if we’re being honest. Anyone telling you otherwise is a liar who barely ever drives anywhere or is seriously coping about what a huge financial mistake their car purchase was.Get a motorbike and you will be much happier and enjoy the scenery more, and take the train if you ever need to travel anywhere far.
>>749075021Yeah, but like, that doesn't really happen. Aside from the British. I think you might just be insecure and assume that's the case when it isn't necessarily so.
I spend $107 a month for mandatory car insurance for a car I drive maybe twice or thrice a month.
>>749075238I actually drive a lot just for fun. I'll be out for 6 hours at a time just cruising around.
>>749075389One of the smartest things my dad ever taught me was what a scam cars are.Genuinely you should never spend more than absolutely necessary for a basic reliable car unless you are actually so rich you can keep cars as a hobby or someone else (your company) is footing the bill.
>>749068281I might be more anti-car ifA. Riding a motorcycle wasn't so fun andB. Public transport wasn't a coinflip to being a victim of some form of crime/heavy annoyanceC. Public transport ever ran consistently and on time.City slickers got it fucking rough
>>749075503If you have 6 hours to drive around aimlessly then you are just underage or a manchild coping with his crippling economic decisions.
>>749075574How is a motorcycle the same as a car?Motorbikes and mopeds are great, I wish more places in North America were friendlier for them.I have a vintage vespa I restored but people will genuinely try to run you off the road for no reason at all when you ride around here.My ideal situation is a moped or motorbike for myself travelling around town, a backup van for when I travel with the kids and family and need a private vehicle, and taking the bus/train every other time.
>>749075576You can't really call others manchildren when the stress from something trivial like driving gives you an existential crisis.
>>749075710>how is a motorcycle the samePublic transport people generally treat motorcycles the same as cars, though I agree they're very different
>>749075714I just don’t enjoy subjecting myself to it and aim to drive as little as possible going forward.The fantasy of the open road is just a fantasy and an American cultural cope for all the bullshit we have to put up with.
>>749075768Imo I see motorcyclists and bicyclists as more or less aligned, if roads were safer for one they would also be for the other.
>>749075812>copeThe open road 100% exists as soon as you leave the metro. The best part is you can fucking drive wherever you want if you so choose.
>>749075862That's funny because as a motorcyclist I hate both cyclists and ebike cyclists. You are a pedestrian, either get up to speed or get off the road, jagoff
>>749068281It's not actually about the cars. It's about people letting their personal beliefs and aspirations be subsumed by the desires of whoever has the money and power to astroturf the mainstream with their preferred version of reality.The American "Small Town" used to be built for people to walk around, with sidewalks and shit. All coalesced around a factory or mill or mine. Look at any place over 100 years old in Pennsylvania, upstate New York, or New England to see what I mean. You'll see neighborhoods of single family houses and duplexes and a commercial center of town with retail buildings with apartments on the upper floors. That's a real town with an identity. People would actually run into each other on the street, use the parks, and form a meaningful community.But now, a "small town" is just a couple strips of houses directly abutting a main road with no sidewalks. Maybe with a "professional development" for doctor's offices on one end and a strip mall on the other. It's much more antisocial. It's not a place to belong, it's just a place to live.Every Hallmark movie is about towns like the first one, everybody wants to live in a town like that. But there's this all or nothing mentality that leads to people rabidly defending the latter as if they were one and the same. News outlets, real estate developers and major businesses all media bomb us to think it's "Progressive Bullshit" to live in a town where you can walk to a locally owned diner to have a cup of coffee and breakfast before walking to work while your kids walk themselves to school in safety in just a couple minutes.How is that not better for American culture and identity than needing to drive four minutes to get to a Dunkin' Donuts to choke down a bacon egg and cheese on your 45 minute commute? While your kids ride the bus for half an hour both ways crammed with misbehaved brats popped out by drug addicts?You've been convinced that's all normal. This game is about how that happened.
>>749075865My point is the “fantasy” never aligns with reality and driving always is shit.It’s uncomfortable, tiring, and the roads get worse and worse every year, both in terms of their quality and the other drivers on the road. Not to mention again the costs connected with car ownership.>but muh freedomLiterally fake, any car from the past 15 years is full of spyware and digital locks on everything, and you CAN’T actually go anywhere you want.If you want freedom and scenic views get a motorbike honestly, or just ride the train lol.I can get the same view for a fraction of the cost plus I can sleep or read a book, watch a film, play my Nintendo Switch in popup mode with motion controls, even go to the bathroom and take a shit when I like. It’s so much better it’s not even funny.Last year I took a cross country train trip with my wife and daughter and it was way more relaxing and fun than any road trip I’ve ever been on.You can even get off and stay for a day or two then catch another train heading onwards to continue the journey. No worries about parking or worrying about “the car”.
>>749076114>ride a trainSounds gay
>>749076114>My point is the “fantasy” never aligns with reality and driving always is shit.>It’s uncomfortable, tiring, and the roads get worse and worse every year, both in terms of their quality and the other drivers on the road. Not to mention again the costs connected with car ownership.I don't know what to say, man. You're just an anxious bitch.
>>749076105Hello Chang.
“Car enthusiasts” when they take a wrong turn and accidentally activate an unskippable mandatory 3h long cutscene
>>749068281So is the game fucking fun or not?I like the little wooden leg people and their hand gestures
>>749076421i HATE traffic but i will never support giving people who cant drive for shit an alternative
>>749076268this tobyhoneststop projecting your own mental deficiencies and take your fucking meds
>>749076421>>749076114Skill issue
>>749076268You’re just coping or genuinely a child
>>749076421Eh, just a part of the experience.
>>749076105If only everyone lived in a big commie block together that would be soul and kino
>>749076468Are you the guy who thinks the average American drives 2 hours to work every day? This is a very important question
>>749076468holy projectiongrow a fucking beard
>>749076507>"trad and based heritage americans" when people propose building like they did in trad and based heritage america
>sure absolutely everything related to driving sucks but what if maybe you go on a cool road trip sometime??? Or maybe drive for hours at night which is the only time there’s no traffic or retards clogging the roads btwGenuine cope, I’d be happy to never drive again and my life would be better for it. Anyone saying anything otherwise is either unemployed or underage if not trying desperately to justify their massive car debt.
>>749076468>genuinely a childYou keep going on and on about how unaffordable cars are. What even is your line of reasoning here, lol?
>>749076598But I don't want to live right next to an industrial zone or commercial district...
>>749076515And Americans can’t seem to conceive of a walk to the grocery store taking under 30 minutes.
>>749076697Yeah, I live in a commercial district in Korea and it’s loud here.
>>749076668Cars are just a money pit and unless you’re like a hobbyist I don’t see the justification for keeping one besides it basically being mandatory in our society. I’d get rid of mine if it was feasible to do so and I always avoid driving lately when I can to just take my motorbike or moped instead.
>>749076730Why would I walk to a grocery store? Am I supposed to hand carry a gallon of milk, a 20 pound bag of dogfood, 5 pounds of chicken, a bag of oreos, and a box of taquitos in one trip?
>>749076791So you have a car. By your own reasoning you're a child.
>>749076730I get my groceries delivered
>>749076791You got hosed on a Hyundai didn't you?
>>749076819Death stranding trained you for this
>>749076819They would come in smaller sizes if going to get groceries multiple times a week was a reasonable option.Even if they don’t, it’s just a bag of groceries, faggot. Wrists too limp for a little bit of hauling?
>>749076962I'm serious, how do Europeans do it? I shop for a family of 4 like every week and I load the back of my truck up, it's like 3-4 trips(5 or 6 if I stubbornly refuse the bags) from car to kitchen
>>749069715Slaves dream of kingship, not freedom?
>>749076995>just go to the grocery store every single dayEww no. Also all food is cheaper in bulk retard, I'm not buying a snack size bag of chicken every single day
Driving is based because it kills so many Americans (just under suicides for cause of death)
>>749069954It's the greatest defense we have against the return of serfdom
>>749075574If there were less cars on the road motorcycles would be safer. Public Transport sucking is because there's no political will to make it better. It CAN be done if you look at other countries, namely China and Japan.
>>749076507You'd still have your own house and a car, you'd just be walking to work in the spring and summer because it's good for you, and using your car to pick up groceries from Elbert's two minutes away instead of Wal-Mart 15 minutes away. And you'd be taking your family to dinner at Dellantino's instead of Olive Garden.You can be pro-commerce and pro-freedom without sucking the dicks of the people who sold out everything we had to China
>>749076443If it was fun, there would be actual discussion here.
>>749077172I do not want to be Chinese or Japanese. Notably Japan has far fewer brown people and yet it is immediately having problems with their public transit due to the influx of browns
>>749077165What are you even talking about? Wild that people think like this driving in their goyim containment cubes 24/7
>>749076105>You'll see neighborhoods of single family houses and duplexes and a commercial center of town with retail buildingsThe city you play in the game doesn't start with any single family homes, retail buildings or a dinerYou place the single family homes and department storesI'm not sure why you'd bring up diners when they only existed because of cars or why you'd ever think they're "progressive bullshit", they're just seen as a weird boomer relic>You've been convinced that's all normal. This game is about how that happened.The game has people protesting to save the trees, they don't even have farms, they just have all this empty wilderness around a city of skyscrapers and desk jobs (there's no mine, no factory, no mill, nothing)This is very much not the tale of the fordism
>>749077228I lived in Chongqing for a year for my company (the meme city with trains going through buildings) and honestly it was way better and more convenient/comfortable to get around than any city in the USA.
>>749077109>Be american>Try to kill myself>Doctor "saves" me and bills me 4 gorillian dollars>Leave hospital>Get shot in the parking lot>Fall over>Car pulls out of parking spot and crushes my brain into the pavementAnother day in my burger life
>>749077380>be European>get lit on fire because gas prices went up by a penny or some shit idk
>>749077020>how do Europeans do it?Buy overpriced small things daily or use a car.
>>749077369Congratulations, they brainwashed you.
>>749073749>He hates red 40https://youtu.be/e49FPRmG3jU
>>749077228> it is immediately having problems with their public transit due to the influx of brownsInflux of white (and Korean) tourists mostly
>>749077432>or use a carNo I mean, how do anti car people do it? I'm not sitting on a bus with 10 bags of groceries and I'm not going to the store every single fucking day, that sounds like some kind of CIA torture experiment
>>749074572>In America, guns can be purchased at the corner storethis should be reality.
I work odd hours and I go to specialty stores mainly
My only gripe with cars is that they're SO FUCKING UGLY. Everywhere I look some horrid bean shaped metal monstrosity, and they all look the same now. Either bulky and rectangle or even worse, a bean oval shape.
>gay homo writes a thousand page manifesto about how he's too fragile to drive on a highwayWhy are they like this
Cool, still buying it.
>>749077254>I want a world where nobody can go anywhere without state assistance, why are people worried about serfdom
>>749077624>fail drivers test>shrill DMV instructor roasts your ass>I DONT EVEN WANT TO DRIVE, ID RATHER RIDE THE BUS, DRIVING IS ACTUALLY SUPER IMPRACTICAL, NOT LIKE SITTING AT A BUSSTOP FOR 20 FUCKING MINUTES AND TAKING AN HOUR TO GET A STONES THROW DOWN THE ROAD! DEATH TO AMELLIKA! many such cases unfortunately
>>749077503>No I mean, how>and I'm not going to the store every single fucking dayBuy overpriced small things daily.These same people won't have big enough refrigerators for two bags of groceries and a carton of their imported almond milk.They also order takeout for the evening and food boxes for the day. Image related is $16. It's rare that anyone prepares their own lunch and it's why vanity drink culture, with the same kiddified plastic drinking cups, is as big a hit in Europe as America.Ironically car owners will often have the money to not even need to go out and order van deliveries of all their food.
>>749069275>awful>"Hardspace: Shipbreaker received "generally favorable" reviews"awful for nazi and incel, surevive la trans!
>>749077684That’s right now, you think you can just “drive” anywhere if the state doesn’t want you to? Not to mention you are monitored on the road and even inside your car constantly anyway.Meanwhile on a train you can arguably anonymize yourself far easier in a crowd.Fake freedom sold to idiots at a premium
has anyone tried darkenstein 3d? a wolfenstein-like game that actually takes place during WW2 like RTCW seems way more appealing than whatever alt-history story-focused slop the past decade or so of wolfenstein games have been, is it any good gameplay-wise?
>>749068281Thank you for reminding me to buy this
>>749078579People enjoyed it wrong unironically.Before they put that dumbass story it was just a wagie simulator like any other, then they felt like subverting player expectations by effectively saying>oh you enjoy playing the game?>what if we told you you aren't getting paid to play it?>stop deconstructing ships already and get angry about wages or some bullshit I didn't care enough to read any of it I am now just me and not the faggot writers
Carcucks will never change my mind that driving is actually so cool and tun and not constant tedium and annoyances on top of bills.Im sorry you spent $80,000 on your truck and now have to seethe through your smile as you sit in end to end traffic for hours just after paying $200 for a fillup
Americans will call other people "sensitive zoomer libtard trannies" but some tycoon game with a satirical tone causes them to start screaming and shitting everywhereI wonder how you managed to survive the days of Team America World Police without commiting suicide
>>749080930driving 80mph through the wilderness with no one else around listening to music is literally the only time in life i ever feel content
I always support games that appeal to people who listen to https://youtu.be/BXlYuaycRbU?si=bYXtMWo6BMxDsNFuand go "this but unironically"Because this but unironically and I also look like this
>>749081198Is the handful of times you do this worth the burden of everything else? For me it’s not.I realized I don’t actually enjoy driving my goycube I just enjoy solitude and nature and can just ride of motorbike or walk instead.
>>749069647satire is almost always making fun of things that chuds like
>>749071315whoa a car is driving through people's heads
>>749081329i don't know what to tell you, i legitimately love everything about driving. most weekends i go for a 2-4 hour drive just for shits and giggles. it's specifically the feeling of controlling the car that i enjoyeven when traffic is shitty, i like timing the barest taps of gas to avoid hitting my brakes as much as possible of course, i also only ever buy semi-sporty sedans made between 2010-2015 that get 30+mpg. that might have something to do with it. driving these fatass SUVs and trucks everyone buys for some fucking reason isn't nearly as fun
>>749077165>>749077684You're literally forced into wageslavery just so you can afford paying for gas that always skyrockets in price everytime something happens in the middle east lol
>>749081606It’s incredible how much cheaper driving an EV daily is so long as I charge at home.Local electricity prices in my area are very low and charging at night costs barely anything.
Where does this delusion come from of car = stuck in traffic? I bought a car specifically to reduce my commute. Possibly the biggest factor in determining your quality of life is the amount of free time that you get. My commute is now a little less than 15 minutes compared to 45 minutes using public transit. I now get an extra hour a day. That's huge.
>>749081769>delusionCongrats on your lucky rolls I guess.
>>749075229Our society needs child sacrifice, they've just found a way to expedite it.
>>749076105truth nukecar salesmen have been mindraping americans for the last century
>>749081829That's actually the problem with public transit, though. The stars have to align where your start and end points need to be connected to transit stations, otherwise you have to take the bus, and if you're at the point where you have to take the bus your commute is pretty much guaranteed to be over 30 minutes.
>>749081769For me my commute by train is faster and I can use that time to relax or do whatever rather than have to focus on the road
>>749082074Congrats on your lucky rolls I guess.
>>749075574Going to Europe and using public transportation there was a black pill. It was convenient and got me wherever I needed to go. Meanwhile my American brain convinced me to rent a car and it was awful, not because it was any different to driving in the US, but because it was so much easier to just use the buses and trains there.
>>749068281Car centric infrastructure literally ruins cities and car corporations have lobbied hard to make sure your cities are as difficult as possible to traverse without a car. This is fact.I own two petrol cars and even I know a train mogs a freeway.
>>749076105everyone would agree with you if they knew Kaczynski dedicated an entire chapter of Consequences to this exact topic
>ignore the speed limits constantly>run red lights constantly>wonder why people hate cars
>>749082281but enough about Italy
>>749082196Everyone loves Uncle Ted until they actually have to read what he was talking about.
>>749076507Don't pretend like our suburbs aren't infested with commieblocks. The only difference is ours are even shittier and rarely have working elevators.
>>749069954If we didn't invent cars, we're all be buried in horse shit and I'm not even being hyperbolic. Reliance on horses was causing an environmental disaster in the 1920s.
>foreskin? that's commie propaganda I enjoy the freedom of having a mutilated penis it actually looks nicer if you were brainwashed by the (((porn))) industry since birth
>>749083827Ok? I wouldn’t want to ride a horse either.If electric motorbikes were better I’d use that.
>>749082131Congratulations, they brainwashed you.
Reminder that amerimutts are only scared of public transport because they can't imagine the idea of going anywhere without being harassed by niggersPoland is pursuing the trad white route right now by upgrading and renovating their train transport system
>>749085104As much you are choking on petrol fumes today, would you rather be wading in horse shit? You don't have a choice in the matter if everyone else is using some sort of personal transport.
>>749075574>B. Public transport wasn't a coinflip to being a victim of some form of crime/heavy annoyance>Traveling by transit buses or passenger trains has roughly one-tenth the risk of death or injury per mile compared to traveling in personal light-duty automobilesWhatever you say lil bro
>>749085409They just have to drive with hordes of browns instead which is worse considering the sheer number of accidents and just awful drivers So stinky Indian on the bus vs stinky Indian driving the semi next to you while texting for bobs pics
>>749086351You don't get it bro if I'm around people then I will be raped and murdered then raped again
>>749068281Hear, hear.MicroProse went full commie with this one wich is why I don't buy their games anymore.
>>749074036That looks like in-n-out actually
>>749068281>>you see, general motors calls SWAT teams out on peaceful protestorsOkay but that is kinda funny tho
Nice this post is so retarded I can now assume any criticism is this drooling moron! Thanks op!
>>749086535Good taste. I have tranny friend who kinda looks like this one. We fuck from time to time. Total degenerate but a lovely person.
>>749087054That's not a tranny.
>>749087304I know he isn't. But the tranny I'm fucking looks like that.
>>749068281>I thought satire was supposed to be funny.The devs are Dutch cuckolds or something like that.Only the British understand how satire should be done.Take the British game "Constructor", where everyone is a son of a bitch, from the poor laborer to the skyscraper tycoon. Everyone is satirized, with their flaws exposed in a comical way.That's how satire should be done. A satirist needs to be able to see the ridiculous in general, not just the ridiculousness of the things he doesn't like.Because the creators of Car Park Capital are incapable of this kind of satire, the commentary comes across more like propaganda (probably from some vegan cyclist who likes to watch his wife go out with other men).
>>749086535>they made a game that allows me to fulfill greedy capitalist fantasies of exploiting the land and population for profit??? This is communism!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>749074965I live in Europe and our train network is kinda shit tbqh. I live in a rich western European country, yet our trains are typically filthy, full of trash and graffiti and the toilets are beyond disgusting. Beyond that they're often late, constantly due to protests or constructions, much slower than using the car and tickets have gotten so goddamn expensive it's cheaper to just take the car instead even though our fuel prices are among the highest in all of western Europe. I'm getting my driving license.
>>749087426Let me guess, The Netherlands?
>>749087426>constantly due to protests or constructionsconstant outages due to strikes, vague problems or maintenance* hurr durr>>749087480Ding ding!
>>749068281>Ehrm, this isn't satire, satire needs to make fun of everything and this isn't funny and-Holy cope. I drive a car and couldn't imagine myself getting upset at these over the top jokes about cars. Get over yourself.
>>749074572>In America, guns can be purchased at the corner storeMost neighborhoods don't have corner stores due to zoning laws, but they do have walmarts
>>749087506Wees slim en verhuis. Nederland is een grote schijt test voor de elite. Jamal and Mohammed gaan voor. Er zijn plannen om Nederland tot een grote stad te maken. Met hier en daar een klein beetje natuur. Toren van Babylon onzin.
>>749087685Ik ben wel verleid in de toekomst te verhuizen als het hier niet snel beter wordt. Moet maar even kijken waar naartoe, en even sparen natuurlijk
>>749087638The OP's point is that satire is different from activism. Not knowing the difference is nothing to be proud of, Anon. You're not superior just because you laugh at the propaganda pieces of activists who most likely want you dead, just as Americans laugh at Jewish comedies where they (white, Christian Americans), are the butt of every joke and are subliminally portrayed as the root of all evil...
Why do gayropeans love mentioning how much they like getting robbed, assaulted or dealing with late trains and buses and the mentally ill third world vagrants that use them?
>>749087927For the same reasons mutts love mentioning how much they love trooning out, shooting up schools and worshipping niggers
>>749087817Het wordt niet beter, wat er nu in Frankrijk aan de hand is komt spoedig hier. Ik ben met vrijwel geen geld (alleen wat zilver en goud) vertrokken naar het buitenland. Het idee dat verhuizen duur is is een leugen door dezelfde mensen die alles kapot maken.Jij leeft een in een nachtmerrie en je accepteer het allemaal.
>>749068281>toyota buys subways just to close them downbased, they should do it irl tooworst fucking chain
>>749087927Posts like this are extremely fucking comedic when you look at all the Americans who act completely mindblown when they find out in Poland you can just walk around on the city streets at night and feel perfectly safe.
>>749068281>bro just one more lane I swear that will finally fix traffic>bro just let me level one more city block and replace it with a parking lot, I've finally got parking figured out
>>749087927>robbed>assaultedwe put those fucks in jail and don't have to deal with them again>dealing with late trainswe don't have that, we are not germans>mentally ill third world vagrantswe don't let them int. pole
I'm about as anticommunist as it gets and I hate roads, and cars are toys for racing on tracks. Roads are insanely inefficient and a constant liability. Americans were brainwashed, but unfortunately so are most anticar people that they need to push their lgbt eurosocialist bullshit alongside it.
>>749088791>Roads are insanely inefficientfreightamerica overuses it, long haul is inefficient, but even with developed ports and rail freight you still gotta distribute the goods, and we are yet to invent anything better than trucks and vans for thatand since cars don't really wear the roads out compared to loaded trucks, they are allowed to use the roads that are built for logistics first and foremost
Cars are good. The end.
>>749089190Rivers and trains are unironically way better and are already used extensively in the USATrucks are only needed to transport from distribution centers around towns and cities
Can't these carless losers just move to NY and stop forcing their ideology on to the rest of the country
No you don’t get it you dumb non-white yurocuck,I like spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on not only a car but insurance, gas and repairs! I don’t want to live in a commie country that has places in close proximity to each other for convenience Mr Ford put far too much merit into lobbying city planners for roads to let that go to waste.Also something something niggers brown people on public transport because forcing them to have cars is safer for everyone
>>749089407>Cars are good-because they kill thousands of americans every yearhopefully they keep building more roads and buying bigger vehicles and keep killing each other
>>749089789I have a car because it’s necessary but I don’t like it and am tired of the constant cope about how great cars are when they are nothing but a burden and a source of constant trouble.I’d greatly prefer if I could spend literally all the money and time I put towards my car 100% on videogames instead.
>>749078938with a train you cant go anywhere you want
>>749069901I agree
>>749078938>can’t go anywhere without multiple licences for your person and vehicle>constantly monitored both by cameras everywhere and in your own vehicle>police can and will stop you for no reason all the time and you must comply or go to court over it
>>749078579>vive la trans!not for long
>>749087661I know Euros are retarded, but do you think you can just walk into even a Walmart and be out the door with a rifle with no hassle?
>>749083098Ted has some very astute observations, but his conclusions are largely retarded and naive.
>NYOOOOOOOOOMMMM
>>749077020For a family of 4 you get the car. If not you get the grandma cart thing that lets you put like 3 bags worth of shopping inside. Being able to shop large quantities of anything is one of the main advantages the car has over walking.
Never go full retard like OP, anon.
>>749068281Look at how easily Iran fucked us over just by blocking a small trade route used only for oil.We really fucked ourselves over with this car shit.
>>749089789>forcing their ideology on to the rest of the countryI assume you're joking because forcing cars down our throats is exactly what created this situation in the first place.The government had to change how all of our infrastructure was designed just to let one product function effectively. And now it's practically the only option.
>>749089789>just move to NYI can't because there are too many other people who want to live in NYC.Maybe we should make more places like NYC.
>VROOOOÒOOM>BEEP BEEP MOVE IT, GRANDPA
>>749068958>satire is only good when it's not making fun of my side.fixed
>>749077698>fail drivers testhow is this possible when someone like CWC can get a driver's license
>>749092475>fucked us overNah it's a win actually. By finally accelerating the apocalyptic demand on oil, the entire world will move over to renewable energy sooner and quicker.
>>749093679Idk, ask the anticarfags in this thread who have panic attacks behind the wheel
>>749068281>toyota buys subways just to close them downThis literally happened with tram lines.
the game looks pretty fun regardless of the message. im kind of surprised at all the rage in this thread. people take everything so seriously these days.
>you don't understand, we need cars to keep us safe from the ni-CRASHCar crashes are the number one cause of unnatural death.If you're scared of black men on the street you should be 10 times more afraid of them behind the wheel of a car. There are more incompetent drivers than murderers.
>>749069715I own my own business anon. I litterally cannot force someone to work for me. Comminiggers litterally are ushering in the exact thing they hate>employer evil>state good>uh oh>state actually evil>cant quit my new forced labor camp jobLitterally stop being a jew and go add something to someones life. Youd be surprised how good life gets. Or keep begging the bitch on a leash congresswoman whos busy bringing in more brown people to depress your wages (im ok with that part if you are)
>>749094264But anon, buses drive on.....the street! AHHHH
>>749092475>by blocking a small trade route used only for oil.this isn't even the first, nor second time that they've done this. but it wouldn't be a 'car' problem if yuros didnt use diesel for their cars in the first place otherwise they wouldn't rely on russia and the ME for oil
Okay but the game looks fun.
>>749092475You mean the American government fucked themselves over giving Iran reason to shut off the oil, so clearly they don't consider people having cars as something at all important unlike the leftist schizos insisting my use of a car is some government plot.
>>749068281imo the theme is really hamfisted to the point where it makes environmentalists look silly instead.looks fun enough for an RCT-like anyway.
>check steam discussions>check here>check elsewhere>someone mentions the politics>everyone polarises>either hate it or it's the best thing ever and only chuds disagree because it's the Right Message™>no nuance>except for people interested in satire who say "Yeah it's a satire, and a bad one">discussion sanitised to theoretical city planning, fossil fuels, not>trains suck when not intercity or major city metro>buses suck when not hired by workplace for shift work (still need to get to the company bus stop which could be an hour away)>convenience stores are walkable, impractical, expensive for customer, seller and supplier, only function if the majority of people get their food at superstores and the owner is an immigrant with child/family workers (Apu, from the Simpsons), is under a corporation with market bartering power, has long hours, expensive prices, or all four (Apu, from the Simpsons)>mass transit is as captured as the car industry in regulatory, pollution and corporate hell, and liking it doesn't make you a-woke-ned, if trams won they'd be evil>living next to your workplace sucks>population density causes suicides and childlessness>you buy a car to get away from the literal worst of society>why is all this reduced to McDonalds, imaginary plastic trees (why would anyone in this paradigm care about trees unless they're not actually about cars-vs-mass transit but... a green lunatic who hates infrastructure and humanity) and Just Stop Oil glueing itself specifically to your car infrastructure (unlike real life) in the game?Reminds me of Oiligarchy, especially when it turned people into oil, except levels in this don't end with "And everyone died!" instead Clippy, I mean Steery, does a kid's show evil laugh. I'm guessing they didn't give the police guns in this to keep the age rating low, along with turning violence into a cartoon fight cloud, and hate the state for not letting them show trve oppression of middle class renters.
>>749098496>American government fucked themselvesamericans don't use diesel in their cars
>>749092673No one forced people to move out to the suburbs, or to abandon main street for stripmalls and big box stores>>749093237Some cities are just never going be walkable, most sunbelt cities are fundamentally designed around car use, and seeing how the biggest reason for their growth are cheap suburban houses, don't expect anything to change. Meanwhile Northern cities in theory could revive their older pre car neighborhoods, but they would first need to attract people, which means more jobs.
>>749068281Man, Americans REALLY don't like it when someone criticises their One More Lane Bro strategy.
>>749101624Actually white people were forced out of the inner Cities read Day's of Rage.
>>749092475>people can't use cars>life's harder but that's okay>people can't use diesel>life's over if cars can't save us>"Hah, finally, the car is dead! Thanks Trump!"Do car haters really think oil is only used for cars? Do people who hate oil not actually like it when the ME blows up, or Ukraine blows up a Russian refinery, or terrorists or bad boat drivers block the Suez for Europe, or a pandemic makes everyone go into schizo mode?
Remember when Papers Please came out and even though there was obvious satire people on here didn't care because "haha I get to keep these fuckers out my country!" What's happened to this place?
>>749102251>Do car haters really think oil is only used for cars?only the finest cars are manufactured by volkswagen, of course.
They're doing something great if they're upsetting so many autists here
>>749080814imagine watching the cutscenes lol
>>749100784Plastic trees are a satire of green marketing. A classic strategy used by megacorporations to evade any responsability and earn brownie points.
>>749102606>third worlders gaining access to internet>ai bots>election tourists who never leftTake your pick
literally zero discussion of the game. hurr politics hurr infrastructure. doesn't even matter where you go it's the same. everyone on the internet are fucking losers.
>>749104796In some ways I think threads like these are covert marketing under the guise of hating on the game. The game's Early Access is opening up in a couple of days so even if no one is discussing the actual game it's still getting eyes on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buY_HUdeubM&t=185sYep, it has SOUL
>>749094509>>749102251>>749101331>diesel diesel dieselIs this some new chud talking point or something? Somehow Trump's failures are Europe's fault for using diesel?I don't get it. Oil is used to make both gasoline and diesel, and everyone uses diesel even if it's mostly used in trucking in America.
>>749102606>papers, please>get to larp as anti-foreigner family man in authoritarian shithole>default story is life is whatever, glory to authoritarian shithole>multiple other routes, including the rebel route, which is fantastical, requires a brain to do (you need to use the magic word revealer) which invalidates 90% of players, and ends the game early, isn't really offensive other than giving you less game to play>that weird, ugly, short, stupid idiot, is a stereotype of the worst kind of thick accented immigrant, you aren't supposed to let him in, he's funny and friendly enough that by the time you are you find it fun, very next day: he's fucked up and you can send him to the nice men with gunsWhy wouldn't 4chan like a satire of communism where even in game you have a trad family who you have to take care of else the government takes your job away?Why would 4chan like a satire of... a god like entity brainwashing asexual people with infinite money into using cars?
>>749103943>why would anyone in this paradigm care about trees unless they're not actually about cars-vs-mass transit but... a green lunatic who hates infrastructure and humanitySo nothing to do with cars or their mass adoption and entirely what consoomers who recycle the paper straws of their iced chai tea matcha latte think is important.And not even a satire of planting trees. A closer comparison would be the Chinese spray painting the ground green, but that wouldn't be anti-American satire.
>>749105124>if we didn't use cars, the iran war wouldn't be a problem! We're car cucks!>>but anon, that's a diesel problem, not a car problem>idgi, oil is used for both!!!The original point focused on cars.If a river dried up, that's not a meat problem, that's a food problem. But anon won't shut up about meat and then moves to goalposts when challenged that cows are still being fed on the grass on the next river over and the only farms affected on that river were soi bean farms.
>>749105547>Why would 4chan like a satire The point is they wouldn't give a fuck about it being satire. People playing papers please didn't care that the game was telling them that what they were doing in the game was bad because if you disagreed with that message then it just meant it was a game about doing what you wanted to do unironically.
>>749100784>>except for people interested in satire who say "Yeah it's a satire, and a bad one"Yeah it's a satire, and a good one
>>749081435trucks tend to do that
>>749105547>requires a brain to do (you need to use the magic word revealer) which invalidates 90% of playersTbh if aligning two dots on two separate documents is too much for you, Papers, Please isn't the game for you
Schizos are so fucking subhuman, genetic waste with pus filled holes in its brain.
>>749105124>Europe's fault for using dieselbecause it's what they primarily use. they directly fund Putin's war while finger wagging at Zelensky to stop attacking Putin's refineries. Yurop is retarded just like the orange nigger is.
Cars suck fucking ass and belong back in the 20th century.>loud>smelly>expensive>most dangerous form of transportation>have to pay for insurance>ruined infrastructure>they all look the same>only fun to drive when you're at illegal speeds>can't modify your own car anymore>sharing the road with illegal Sikh and Muslim truck drivers now who will eventually kill you
>>749107475>the game was telling them that what they were doing in the game was bad... it never did.At most it just implied the situation was shitty and non-negotiable.It never told you what happened to the people you sent to the nice men with guns. Just that you get a kickback (which I remember being delayed the first time but it's entirely presented in game terms so you feel cheated, and it's not trying to reinforce that this is a super bad decision). You also get penalised if you do it incorrectly, so you pretty much have no choice in it either.>>749108196You'd be surprised how brainless people are then.You shouldn't be surprised that the players who did play long enough to reach that point often forgot they were supposed to be doing that extra thing, because it's not built into the game mechanics described as a man in a second checkpoint double checking your work. The entire point of the game is that you can't keep up with the paperwork, so as soon as you don't get penalised you won't remember to use the paper.95% of the players who know how the ending goes watched it on youtube and didn't play. Same as FNaF fans.
Didn't read the thread. Just wanted to say that motorcycles are the truest expression of freedom on the road. They make cuck cyclists seethe. They make wagie carfags seethe. You will never be as free as when you ride at 80 miles per hour on two wheels.
>>749109492When your organs spill all over the road, I will be there to point and laugh
>>749109048my idea?>no cars allowed in cities>outside of cities? go crazy, go mad max
>>749100784so....tldr game is good or not?
>>749109492why don't motorcycles have an axle?
>>749109048What's your solution?Cut red tape? Deport brown people? IQ tests for car, truck and train drivers, and airplane pilots?... get everyone to ride the bus with the Sikh driving it and the Muslim in the seat next to you, no-one's cleaned up last night's vomit, Shaniqua is singing to her phone, the road is still full of cracks, there's a rainbow on the side of the bus "Diverse communities planting trees in Gaza, sponsored by Amazon", the new speed limit is 20mph, the bus has to comply with federal restrictions, and now you have to pay going-outside insurance?
>>749109048They're also the only method of transportation where>I get to choose where to go and when to go>I can easily transport additional items>I am completely shielded from the elements>I can even nap in it if I needNothing else even comes close. I'd have one of those sick-ass motorhomes if they weren't really expensive to get
>>749109639I saw a streamer play it like a sandbox.He completed a 40 day scenario in 4 days. This took him 3 hours (I don't know if the simulation has a fast forward button). There didn't seem to be a failure state, just an inevitability that might only fall apart if your finances are terrible.The simulation looked quite good but inconsequential. He had control over where the sims worked in their city and literally just put a bunch of desks down in a field with no walls or roof and then put car adverts over their heads, then laughed like it was funny.If they change the difficulty from game reviewer mode to you can fail, there are so few things you can do it'd probably not be fun. Despite rocketing through the scenario the most complicated thing he had access to was setting up a two stage logistics puzzle.
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I'm a Metropolis 1998 guy anyway.
>>749088237Hell yeah, Wawa's better.
what now?
>>749069275it's not even satire, it's straight unionism, the game. it doesn't make fun of anything.
>>749111538>entire corporate structure toppled by a single recording and blackmail>implying the guy wouldn't just get fired as a fall guy and the status quo upheldIt sure is satire, but I don't think they intended it to be
>>749109492Whoa hey pal, haha, didn't notice you there when I switched lanes.
>>749109814He's got you covered, bro.
I'm sorry OP but i just like being able to go wherever i want when i want like a real human being. Miss me with the public scam shit
>>749114095To be real for a moment, the ideal is that everyone has a car to get where they want when they want to, while also having a cheaper and comfortable public transport option to get to work every day without having to use the car
>>749074724jokes are funny
>>749109481>... it never did.And there's a good chance Car Park Capital is never going to show you a neon sign that says "YOU ARE THE BAD GUY HERE" either.
>>749114810The game does thatThe little helper character does evil laughs and tells you to do bad things
>>749114095Here's the thing. It's not about having a car or not having a car.It's really more about a family having 1 car instead of 3.You should be able to use public transit or microtransit (bikes etc) for most things. And the car can be reserved for the weird stuff.
>>749069275It felt separated from the game itself, where a terminally online college graduate wrote the gayest, most shallow characters imaginable, and was so drawn out and awful to a point where somewhere in the middle I was able to finish my day before the faggots would stop talking about how the security officer wouldn't stop twirling his evil bootlicker mustache.
>>749074572>reality: In America, guns are easier to purchase than most other countries>satire: In America, guns can be purchased at the corner store (example GTA)>schizo nonsense: In America, guns are used as currency, every man, woman, and child have them, babies in cribs have one.You've completely crippled whatever point you were trying to make with that third line sounding awesome as fuck.
>>749115045>taking 7 minutes to drive to the store and 7 minutes to drive back is too convenient, you should be forced to walk 3 minutes, wait 5 minutes, then ride the bus for 10 minute followed by waiting 25 minutes for the next bus after your shopping is done
>>749114960>The little helper character does evil laughs and tells you to do bad thingsYes Papers Please has a character who tells you to detain people and pays you to for every person you detain for him.
Think you're gonna keep defending driving a car, as the only viable form of transportation, once gas reaches $6/gal?
>>749068281>Microprosedidn't they kick the bucket literally 30 years ago? what the fuck?
>>749115897Brandname got revived. I honestly kind of love that a game that feels like a pc game straight out of the 90s is being published by a company whose name is most associated with 90s pc gaming.
>Americans will justify this
>>749116086I know this. It's outside of St. Louis. Is it better or worse that they chose to build everything other than where they live on a floodplain?
>>749116086But I was told that any other alternative is literally communism.
>>749116086what exactly is the issue here? do you want to have to walk 10 minutes between each store because there are neighbourhoods between them? do you want people constantly walking and talking in front of your house all day long because you live next door to a shop? Separation between residential and commercial happens naturally because its more convenient for everyone, you can also literally walk over one single road to go do shopping so its also completely walkable
>>749116415>American complains about city design>First thing out of his mouth is "too much walking involved"
>>749116782I accept your concession
>>749115805I live a 5 minute drive from the store and I do my shopping with an e-bike. Doesn't even take more time. Bicycle trip is the same 5 minutes and I get to go on a nice little bike ride. And no, I don't have problems carrying my groceries.In fact, it's more convenient than doing it by car because I can park my bike right next to the doors and I don't have to carry in my groceries because I just wheel the bike right into my living room. Don't even have to return a shopping cart. I just leave it at the front because I only have to carry my groceries out the front door to my bike.Also your complaints about American public transit are because we refuse to fund public transit here.
>>749116415Because now you're required to pay thousands yearly for the rest of your life; on car mortgage, maintenance, insurance, and fuel. And it's getting more expensive too. Less density actually restricts freedom of movement, because traffic fucking sucks.
>>749116086Oh it's terrible. Imagine living here and wanting to buy groceries at the store which is like a 5 minute walk across the street.But instead you have to go for a 15 minute drive to escape your suburban maze.
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287430/Metropolis_1998/>https://x.com/YesboxStudios/status/2105683338245877778?s=20nah, i'm waiting on something else right now.
>>749117902why does it have the octopath filter
>>749116415>Separation between residential and commercial happens naturallyOh then we can do away with the zoning laws that separate residential and commercial artificially.They're totally unnecessary right? Because the separation will happen naturally like you said.Let's go ahead and do that then and see what happens.
>>749118000yea it would
>>749116415>do you want people constantly walking and talking in front of your house all day long because you live next door to a shop?If you think that's bad, wait till you hear about how bad noise pollution, caused by cars, is like.
>>749118361well luckily you dont live right next to a bunch of shops so people wont be coming in and leaving constantly for the entire day and instead only live next to a few people who leave the house once, maybe twice a day
>>749116415>do you want people constantly walking and talking in front of your house all day long because you live next door to a shop?Residence are very usually not on the first floor. This problem you imagined has been solved thousands of years ago.
>>749118081What actually happens naturally is you end up with commercial at the street level with residential or office space on top. So the commercial businesses get free customers and the people on top get convenient shops downstairs.This is what happens in every city when you don't ban it like we do. Because... how did you put it... "it's more convenient for everyone".
>>749117674Reminds me of that neighborhood where it would take a 30 minute drive to go through the maze or you can cut across like 10 feet of land
>>749068281I'm sick of brainlets conflating publisher with developers.
>>749118845And of course if we didn't ban it you'd end up with small businesses mixed into the suburban areas. So instead of driving out to a Starbucks you'd go for a nice little walk to your local coffee shop. Where you could chat up your neighbors and start forming an actual fucking community.The coffee shop could even be someone's home as well. That's a totally normal thing that happens everywhere else.
>>749075238Being stuck in traffic only sucks because of your attitude. Throw some good music on and focus on jamming out instead of the jam you're in.
>>749075229Who the fuck looks at that and thinks:>yup, looks good to me
>>749075229Seriously, those hoods aren't even functionally necessary. Like sometimes it's just a front-trunk.They only look like this because idiots think it looks more manly.
>>749071315Trucks aren't shit because they're bad for the environment.Trucks are shit because they're overbuilt and underpowered 90% of the time thanks to trying to skirt environmental regulations.Same reasons soccermom mobiles are so big now.
>>749075229>pay 100k for a superduty pickup truck>use up more gas than other cars>only use it to commute>that trunk is empty 99.9999% percent of the timeSatisfying to know that pickup drivers are suffering the most from the rising gas prices.
>>749073967>microprose still publishing weird niche titles like they used to in the 90sKinda glad they're still around, they also published mech engineer which was cool.
>>749069647that is in no way true, but it does have a very high chance of being very good or very bad with almost nothing in between
>>749121302The part of the design team working on emissions compliance.>big fuckoff truck that's X*Y dimensions?>listed as 'work vehicle'?>yeah that can shit out CO2 like a chainsmoker >what? that same truck's engine in a truck not nearly as big?>NOT ON OUR GOD BLESSED AMERICAN ROADS, THAT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL TRAVESTY!You don't hate the EPA enough.
>>749091108Yes, there's people in Europe that think Europeans can do the same.That is the average understanding of your regular neighborhood 'gun bad' europoor.
>>749073090what do you mean "these people"
>>749072417high rise apartments are another symptom of car dependency sweetiethe cities get strangled by suburbs so the land inside the city becomes super valuableso the only profitable way to do housing in the city is high riseswhat's supposed to happen naturally is the city expands outwards with midrise housing as the population increasesbut they're not allowed to do that in America because the area outside the city limits is zoned for suburbs onlywhy doesn't the city change the zoning laws then? because the suburban areas are technically a different city, and they have no jurisdiction over them
>>749074575I consider America's dwindling ability to distance yourself from niggers to be a net positive over Europe. I understand that is changing rapidly, but as it stands, no nigger wants to live in a rural town because there's nothing to steal, and because there's little foot traffic, there's not really anybody to rob either. When leftrannies say that everyone who lives in a rural town is a racist, they're right, but not for the reasons they think they are.
>>749117902>got a demoYou know what I'll give it a shot, can then compare it to CPC when that comes out on EA a few days later.
>>749118603the carless desire for the hive for they are bugs
>>749118601>pretends he doesn't live next to a highwayOh you poor bastard. AHAHAHAHAHA FAGGOT.
>>749074965>if they tore up the highways and built a massive train network like in China or Europethere's a key factor you're missing when it comes to mass public transit, especially if you live in the US.
>>749093237Lmao, half of NYC is empty man, tons of apartments and commercial space permanently for rent, not because "so many people want to live there" its because its used as collateral for loans lmao. More people leave nyc in droves than enter it
>>749124005indeed. they also don't build many new either so rents are perpetually high.
when your culture is mentally ill, it really shows in what you choose to build
>>749124215Not really a good critique. If Europe had a mentally healthy culture they would be able to reproduce.
>>749072417How do you plan to acquire that nice little 1950s home in a modern city that millions more people want to live in now without paying McMansion prices? This is not a problem cars solve.Also see >>749122636
>>749115825>papers please never did it, and so doesn't car park capital>car park capital does>so did papers please!!!You're a circle
>>749074965>driving is always an awful experience, dealing with traffic, retard drivers, insane illegal and dangerous activity where I’m constantly on edge that I will have an accident and either get raped by insurance just be crippled/die.Average train tranny
>>749125442>Also see >>749122636Commie blocks are a staple of transit oriented development.
>>749125140Only Africa has a healthy culture by that measure
>>749125725Not really. Birthrates are collapsing there as well.
>>749116415>do you want people constantly walking and talking in front of your house all day long That sounds fucking dystopian
>>749125546Nope. The goalposts were changed so I took the different shot. Character telling you to do a bad thing is different to character outright telling you the thing they are telling you to do is bad.
>>749126816Ok and what if they aren't well off white people?
>>749124215How would a walkable city even work in a environment like this
>>749127105>The goalposts were changedThe goalposts hadn't changed at all.There is a difference between>narratively this is bad>this is a bad thing only cartoonishly bad people do in our society, and anyone who says this is political disagrees with doing the Right Thingand I'd say not having autism helps you to see the difference but autists really can feel the difference, it's redditors who can't.
>>749068281>Threads here now last almost an entire fucking dayQuality aside this site used to be faster.
>>749129939it's been like this since the hack
>>749129939>Quality asideAside? Anon, quality is one of the main reasons people are being driven away
>>749128398Easy, you just build a train station there.That's how our country was built. You put a train station out in the middle of nowhere and the city builds around it to take advantage of the transit connection.Or just don't build a city in the middle of the fucking desert. It's a monument to man's arrogance.
>>749116086>these stores are for the five families that live in this suburban quadrantSchool catchment zones are bigger than that entire image, or >>749116415>yeah but I want to walk to Walmart, the Pancake House, Kaldi's Coffee, and the VetsI agree for how it'd increase consumerism, and we all love consooming, I love my financial overlords, let me spend more money! Yeah right>>749118603How big are roman shoeboxes compared to today's?>>749126816>what if everyone was rich, white, horses shit everywhere, women were property and gays were in the closetCareful anon, you want a certain red board, but they'd probably tell you they'd want to live innawoods
>>749074857I laughed so hard at this I started crying.
>>749071315trucks have zero use if you aren't a handyman or blue collar. you're just LARPing at that point. and like the other anon said, trucks past 2010 have DOGSHIT pull power
>>749130291Nah it really is just too slow, which causes people to not post, which perpetuates the cycle.
>>749130308>Or just don't build a city in the middle of the fucking desert.not my problem
>>749073749>>749073921this is what years of /int/posting does to you
>>749075005If you wanted to experience nice sights like this while traveling long distance we had a tool for that. It was called a train.And unlike a car you could relax and focus your entire attention on appreciating the view. Maybe eat a meal in the dining car. Or get fucking hammered and pass out in your sleeper car.And you never had to stop for gas.
>>749129939Yeah, shit sucks. Unfortunately the people you might want to leave are not the ones that left either.Basically posting started to dip in the latter half of the 2024, whatever that means, dipped again after the hack, dipped harder after the new captcha
>>749129906>this is a bad thing only cartoonishly bad people do in our society, and anyone who says this is political disagrees with doing the Right ThingDon't see why that doesn't also describe papers please. Again the point is that people didn't care, because if they agree with the supposed "cartoonishly bad people", then it just meant they got a game which let them do the things they agree with doing in the first place.
>>749081097to be fair, Michael Moore was a fat preachy retard
>>749130628It's slow because less people use the site. Why do you think they started not using the site in the first place? The pace of posts slowing down had to start somewhere.
>>749122636>>749125442I'm trying to tell you that, in the game, you start with apartmentsYou acquire the apartments, you can destroy the land value via pollution down to a 100% discount to make it easier (I don't think land value ever goes up)You build suburban homes, the ones without sidewalks, and their second tier or whatever in the game is literally called a McMansion but doesn't look any better which makes you go "Huh?" and I'm sure someone who doesn't know what a McMansion is would be confusedYou then evict the tenants of your apartments and they move into suburbia, and I don't know if they now own the homes or are still tenants, the game is very weird with how you seemingly literally own everything just because you have moneyThere are no zoning laws, there are no NIMBYs, there are only people who get upset if you chop down treesThe entire point is, in the game, is "The city was perfect, everyone lived in their pods, then the cars came and everyone was forced to live in 1950s family homes and do everything with a car!", and everyone in the city is dependent on metros to get around (I don't think buses are in the game) which you can blow up, or simply walkIt's so frustratingly retarded it's like it was designed by someone who just hates cars and only read internet arguments on why they're bad and America's stupidIt even says cars have to be burned to be disposed of, which of course causes pollution, like what? That's not how scrap yards work and it's definitely not how they're depicting trains work. The only other environmentalist game I remember doing something as weird as that was one which made it so nuclear power plants cost a lot and literally destroyed everything nearby and then blew themselves up with their own fart gas
>>749131167>The only other environmentalist game I remember doing something as weird as that was one which made it so nuclear power plants cost a lot and literally destroyed everything nearby and then blew themselves up with their own fart gasCiv 6 is very annoying with this where there's no point in building nuclear power plants because they cause pollution for no discernible reason and are prone to nuclear meltdown within a decade. It's building dams KEK, solar, and wind also KEK. as the "environmentally friendly" solutions to keep the Earth happy. So fucking retarded.
>>749131726>look into water, solar, wind power and their lifecycle, specifically mining, manufacturing, installation and end-of-life>begin to wonder why only france went hard nuclear>begin to wonder how much better than wind it'd be if someone invented fossil filters on coal plant chimneys, and that's if they too were buried in the ground>begin to wonder why anyone would agree to driving an electric car or vaping or anything with batteries when there's an alternative>talk to anyone big in the green industry (I was lucky)>just as greedy as the next person, literally just importing things to sell>does know about the technology but doesn't make it, doesn't care how it's made, is always on sell mode when talking about it
>>749068281It would be easier to take anti-car fags more seriously if they didn't also support policies that make public transit and walkable infrastructure untenable.>>749081769That's my experience as well. Working nights on the opposite side of town in Portland, driving saves me 2 to 3 hours per day compared to transit.Bonus points during harsher winters. I can just get straight home a little slower instead of standing around for hours in freezing conditions waiting for a bus that just might not come.
so this thread is still up
>>749125572I kind of feel him. All I do is work and go home. I can't seem to get any connections to hang out with people outside of dedicated meet up groups or discord. I went to therapy about my loneliness and she just told me to go camping and hiking, something I already do by myself and grown to hate because I can't seem to find anyone to do it with.
>>749132291The lifecycle problems with fossil fuels are far worse. Constantly building new drilling infrastructure for new sources of disposable one-time-use fuel. And the massive refining and fuel distribution infrastructure.Compare that to solar panels which operate for decades before they need to be replaced. Then they get recycled and used to make new panels. They're just made of glass, aluminum, and silicon, all of which are cheap and can be recycled. Batteries are also easily recycled. We already mass recycle car batteries extremely efficiently.Considering that solar panels are now the cheapest way to generate power, there's really no excuse to not go crazy with them.A lot of the claims about lifecycle problems with renewables are out of date. Problems we've solved, but they never stopped crying about. Or it's just straight up bullshit invented by fossil fuel companies to stifle competition.
>>749133585>I went to therapy about my loneliness and she just told me to go camping and hiking, something I already do by myself and grown to hate>But doctor, I am Pagliacci
>>749134096Yeah she was pretty fucking bad. I've since found more help on youtube than with her. And it's not bullshit redpill stuff either.
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>>749076105Grew up like this in the 2000s midwest, the poorer your small town gets the more stuck in the past it is. Felt like bully or some shitty 80s movie. Everyone knew everybody, a high school football game was the town event at times, it was very close-knit and it was very walkable. Now i work in tech and im a bitter coastal nigger. Kinda wanna return to corn feld after this AI shit collapses.
>>749075229I like driving and I got a 2016 pickup and I fucking hate the new hoods. Prior pickup was a 2002 and to boot if you have to do any work on it everything under the hood has more space. Fuck working on newer vehicles shit was made for little chinese hands.
>>749134004>decades4-5 years for parts but not the whole, especially if Chinese.Wind turbines have comparable lifespans to solar.I'm not aware of what in a solar panel, especially in production, has to be disposed of, but wind turbines are not reusable or recyclable, at least not the wings and the towers.I cannot remember if it's the factories behind parts for solar panels or batteries, or both, that you wouldn't want to live near and create a very pretty landscape, if you like pools of yellow, but I'm going to struggle to refind the photography that was a part of an award winning collection of human industry. Something like "The Holocene Era" but it's probably been buried by the weight of the internet and AI after a decade of being online, if not withdrawn in the passage of time.
>>749109573>I will be there to point and laughHow will you get there?
>>749134210>female therapist, talking to someone mentally disturbed: have you tried not feeling bad?>redpill youtubers: let me give you a doomscroll of why the world sucks and why you should watch my channel for the rest of your life, without an adblockerIt's all terrible.>>749134373>americans are the best at everything, including sports and the global rules based world orderThis is quite some bait. I wonder who made it, because an American doesn't spell it maths.
>>749136092There is a good one called healthy gamer. Funny enough I found him from the how to date threads on /adv/. His videos actually help a lot on how to stop doom scrolling and coughing up redpills.
>>749135840At the end of the day we should all be using nuclear anyways.
>>749130308>walkable>train
>>749137184I agree.
>>749117902>43MBi dont trust this at all
>>749136092>This is quite some bait.... pondered the european
>>749137721America makes its own rules.Europe is known for thinking the rules matter.
>>749130819
>>749137517it uses a lot of re-used assets and it's very minimal. game is very jank too, so i wouldn't recommend it until there's more polish. don't know where we need games that need to be jeeted up at 60gb+ though
>itt: Europeans living in countries too small to understand why having a personal vehicle is useful when your country is larger than their continent>never will they understand the sweet joy of throwing the throttle open on the highway under the stars as you take a drag on a nice cigar, Curtis Mayfield on the stereo >you could go anywhere, anytime, for anything, all of your own accord>that feeling of pure freedom, self determination, and control>"no that's bad because car noisy and traffic happens"I have nothing but pity for them.
>>749139213What does having a big country have to do with personal vehicles which are almost exclusively used for short everyday trips?If anything, Europeans would find cars more useful because everything is within a more reasonable driving distance. And they can drive into whole other countries.
>>749068407I think he is talking about themes in this heckin' wholesome indie game
>>749139213>that feeling of pure freedom, self determination, and controlI feel more free on a train. I can move, I can read, use my laptop, drink a beer... yeah it's cool to drive around once in a while but when you're trying to get to somewhere it's just another chore
>>749118603I lived in an apartment block structured like this in Asia and it was honestly great.All the basic stuff was literally just in the same complex and it had a park area in the center to hang out in as well as large private balconies for everyone and a track on the roof for exercise. I parked my motorbike in the basement and would take that to go elsewhere outside of the city but could easily walk or use a bicycle for anywhere closer by.
>>749125572>being in my goybox on the highway = natureI’m out in nature all the time and it’s incredibly easy to take my bike or motorbike verses a fucking car and have to find parking at some specific national park area where they allow cars
>>749074325Americans generally do not hate minorities
>>749131726I build nuclear plants on the ice caps because who cares if there is a meltdown there.Also climate change in Civ6 is based because I can intentionally cause it and position myself to avoid the worst effects while everyone else suffers AND i get a big early productivity boost from all the heavy industry.
>>749068281>caring about Microprose post 2001Shit isn't even the same company
>>749074391No, 16th century England wasn't degenerate enough for the [Founding Fathers] do they built a freemasonic (degenerate sex cult) capital that would gradually take over the world and make puritan England and other based religiostates more degenerate.
>>749140434>yeah it's cool to drive around once in a while but when you're trying to get to somewhere it's just another choreI've honestly never had that issue, sure it can be annoying dealing with finding a parking spot or getting through traffic, but I've always found the open road to be relaxing.I don't even really have to focus on the driving part that much, once you get out on it you just kinda go on auto-pilot, especially when it's a route you know.That said, I've always preferred listening to music and getting lost in my thoughts over more active things, so I can see why it's not for everyone.
I'm gonna say it, because of this game we are now having a thorough-going discussion on the subject of automobiles and societies built around them on /v/. That's basically what satire is supposed to do, so these guys kind of won.
>>749139213Canada is larger and more spread out and even our mass transit is far better (still worse than asia or europe)Mass transit works best with multiple layers of options, trains, subway, light rail, buses, trams, bike lanes, and so on.It overall raises the value and productivity of a city
>>749074965This
>>749139213I don't pity them at all. We don't bully them enough anymore.
>>749139213> control> when you have to maintain the car, license, insurance and fuel as well as stay in your lane and follow traffic rules and laws as well as trust others to not be insane retards behind the wheelill agree when there are all terrain land speeders or mass produced flying cars
>>749076105Based
Is it too much to ask for more commuter light rail? I'd rather not be forced to drive 20 minutes across town, then look for parking which I have to pay for any time I want to go out and do something somewhere else in town. It'd be easier if I could just walk to a train station, hop on a train, and then walk to my destination after I get off.
>>749076819Yes, skill issue also you're not supposed to be a fatass who eats oreos and tauqitos
>>749139213Americans don't understand that public transport improves the car driving experience. Your whole life revolves around crushing public transport so more niggers clog the roads and ruin the car driving experience. You vote against your own interests.
>>749077165No that would be not letting all these data centers go up so you can make degenerate porn
>>749081537Car salesman detected
>>749081769Okay you are on layer two. Layer 3 is realizing your commute is so damn long because everyone built your city around cars.
>>749082018Actually that is covered by abortion
>>749083098>pissed off every single political persuasion>is now hailed as a hero by idiots who never read the manifestoHow does he do it?
>>749086351I've used public transit for years and I've often engaged in evangelism with drug addicts and drunks and I haven't come close to being attacked
Cool story, anyway, what's your favorite MicroProse game?Pic related, Grand Prix Manager, shame it was full of overflow glitches, so the math to calculate speed based on engine power + weight + driver skill would get all over the place.Still pick it up from time to time to lead Simtek to glory.
>>749142036Doesn't count. God doesn't put the soul in the baby until a few weeks after birth. Just to make sure it's gonna be a keeper.It's just logic.
>>749090986Skill issue
>>749091108Yeah you have to remain a socially deranged sociopath for 10 whole days!
>>749093679Yeah but isn't the fact that CWC willfully used his car as a device for attempting a homicide an argument that he should have bever been given a license and mayeb those other more strict driving instructors are doing it right?
The Train vs Car debate is retarded because you can have both, and largely the reason we don't have rail systems in America is both because our country is like several times the size of countries that have them, but also because social cohesion is falling the fuck apart and large scale public services like that can't operate anymore.In some cases some cities have had to shut down bus services because roving gangs of aids ridden homosexual hobos from California made their way across the country and it was legitimately a biological risk to continue to have them, and the means of forcing those shitholes to take their fags back just doesn't exist.
>>749094430A bus is going to destroy anything that collide with it. That's just physics, bingo
>>749142360X-com Apocalypse.No it's not actually a great gameNo it's not even the best x-com gameNo I can't recommend playing it.
>>749142630if CWC was a good driver, he would've been able to easily kill off the game place owner instead of 'attempting'
>>749141320Oh my bus is here! See you guys later.
>>749102251Their Lego sets are made out of sugar now (and break like it) so they could care less
>>749105124Anon, president trump needs to be protected at all costs even if we need to protect a Jewish pedophile who did monstrous things that would make Genghis Khan look like a humanitarian
>>749089789>Only assholes walking are walking in literal frozen hell.They need some milk, I mean snow tyres.
>>749142772It's playable unlike terror from the deepThat or the GoG version is broken because absolutely no-one talking about it mentions every alien having nuclear grenades from day one
>>749143036I get the people with TDS are genuinely mentally ill, but what's with people saying that everyone that's part of that "political faction" explicitly approves of specifically only the indisputably shit things he does?You know he isn't even a "Republican" right? He was effectively an independent with no real party affiliation.
>>749143187>"criticizes" trump while using phrases like TDS This is you
>>749143354Uh, yeah, if you think the general population specifically approve of the corruption right now you are mentally ill.
>>749143495I didn't say the general population. I said you "people"
>>749143638We both know meant.
>>749143354TDS is an observable phenomenon to everybody who doesn't have it.
>>749115515I hate boomer "satire" so muchWhy are political cartoons no matter what party, always written by the same people who think "Ongolo" on Facebook made a car out of diamonds when he was 7 years old?
>>749116415>you want people constantly walking and talking in front of your house all day long because you live next door to a shop?Peak American solipsism
>Americans think in the event of some cataclysmic proportion they will casually drive their ford filled with dried beans they bought from kenneth copeland ministries Innawoods instead of ending up dying in some equally cataclysmic traffic
>>749118845Video?
>>749122636>poisons a reasonable argument with a transcoded "sweetie" The shilling going on in this thread is insane
>>749069954>this is not up for debateOne of many words/phrases you things are fond of polluting the air with that signal that whatever is coming out of your noisehole is just that, noise.
>>749142656The US had a shit ton of railway in the past though. What we have now is basically the bones of what it used to be. There was just also a lot of mismanagement since there were a ton of railway companies that started up just for the government benefits they were handing out at the time to build them, and then they'd basically just go "well I'm laying down track in this direction. Let's hope there's something at the other end" and if they happened to cross another company's tracks, well that was a scheduling nightmare. Then of course some of these railways fell through, and cars rose so funding and attendance lowered, and we get to today.To the best of my recollection anyway. I have seen some 2 hour train history videos because my friend is somewhat of a train and bus foamer but I don't necessarily remember a lot from them, mostly just funny anecdotes like the Crash at Crush
>>749130291This. Could Nu4chan even do something as epic as the multiple raids on Shia Labouef's flag?
>>749075529Wish we had more cars that were golf-cart sized for people that just need transport for them and one other person, and maybe their groceries/purchases from shopping. There's basically Smartcars and that's it for that niche.
>>749134210Why are women even qualified to give life advice? They literally live under an entirely relaxed set of parameters vs men
>>749136237Doctor K. is a presumptuous jeet who thinks he can tell an iraq vet the value of life because he has a phd
>>749140876>implying China isn't doing this
>>749134419Sadly these towns are being targetted for direct brown injection precisely because they are usually functional white communities. I've been hearing so many stories of these small towns getting a sudden leadership shakeup from some shabbos they have never heard of in local government or community and then suddenly there are Indians arriving by the busload in Whitemanville, Tennesse (population 3500) for no good reason.There's no economic opportunities or jobs there so it's even more blatant their entire purpose for being there is societal sabotage and displacement of whites.
>>749091108I mean... Austrian gun laws changed recently but it used to be possible in at least one country in Europe too. In my hellhole you need a loicense but you can get a rifle shipped to your doorstep, or the corner store parcel pickup point as happened to my friend
>>749134004>Then they get recycled and used to make new panels.solar panels use shitton of batteries which requires a lot of rare earth metals. this isn't good for the environment in terms of mining, refining, and as disposables kek
