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The most annoying and retarded thing I've ever encountered is this excuse when some faggot said
>it's a kids game
To defend their favorite game. And if you call them out on it, it's the usual bullshit like "It's ok when adults (me) do it too!" or "There are different kinds of kids' media!" Nigga, kids' games are akin to some fucking educational games like Sonic Schoolhouse. Otherwise, 70% of the games' population are "family-friendly", which is more than that, and they're not the same thing just because children can also enjoy them.
And there's the whole "teens are kids!" which made me lose my brain cells here, but that's getting off-topic.
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>>749106470
Your take is the brainlet one, the faggot you're talking about is absolutely right.
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>the writer is totally doing a meta ending to insult his audience because he wants to stop making games
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>>749106470
Sorry, but I need to know the game and context of the discussion before I call you based or retarded.
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>>749106549
>Calling yourself a faggot
OH NO NO NO no no...
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Any example? There are plenty of Disney and Pixar gams that still hold up if you play them as an adult
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>>749106470
Have you never considered that the subhumans complaining about a game looking “kiddy” or “nerdy” is the actual problem here?
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I really think the "you control the buttons you press" tweet did a lot of damage for game design. It shouldn't be the player's job to balance a game and making them follow self-imposed rules isn't the same as having an intended experience.
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>>749106470
>Consoles are holding PC back
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>>749106470
>It hasn't aged well.
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>the game has an unrealistic element to its setting therefore any blullshit/plothole is okay
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>>749106470
People who dislike realism, an engine as a whole or default to old good new bad. There's no place for these types of retards in gaming at all, they're like the broke niggers who sit on the stoop and bullshit all day but never do or say anything useful
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>>749106882
This is true and always was.
When you say games getting downgraded, it was for the sake of consoles.
When you saw game series lose their depth, get dumbed down and instead become more flashy and "cinematic", it was for console audiences.
When you see people insist that people can't see above 30 FPS and that framerate doesn't matter, it's because of consoles.
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>>749107025
Ok, go back to your gun and ball general.
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>>749106470
>by the way im a pedophile teehee~
that's the entire reason you made this thread isn't it.
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>we are in the golden age of gaming dude! we can play anything from the past easily, erm just dont pay attention to the industry
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Fatal Frame being perceived as a "gooner franchise" almost overnight with 5 still hangs over that series' reputation and discourse 11 years after the western release. To be fair, said release was gloriously botched but the series as a whole suffered for it.
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Cataclysm
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"It's realistic" being used to defend anti-fun mechanics like durability, thirst, and stamina.
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>>749107029
and yet all the PC versions perform worse
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>>749106470
>Why are you complaining about this thing? It's optional!
"Optional" doesn't mean "Immune to criticism".
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>>749106657
>>749106758
NTA but this image alone. I can think of a trend by sonictrannies now claiming that it has always been made for literal babies so that they can defend their shitty parts of the franchise like writing.
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>>749106882
>The whole industry is influenced by having to pander to the biggest platforms on the planet, mini PCs with out dated parts that are mostly restricted to just playing games
>This is not detrimental at all
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>>749106470
>someone made you seethe so hard you're making threads about him years later
Lol. You sound like the retard here. Everything he said is true.
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>>749107029
Then capitalism is holding PC back, not consoles. Just ignore them as a target platform, except you'll make more money if you whore your game out as a multiplat. I will say this much, western game design as a whole has been on the decline for as long as consoles have been their target platform, so around the 7th gen or so, maybe a little ways into the 6th.
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I hate discussing vidya IRL. Anyone else?
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>>749106882
I give you an actual factual objective real example. DRG has active perks that are activated upon button press. But since the game has crossplay a lot of them are binded to the same keys as other actions and you have to HOLD to activate perks which makes experience worse. I have to use mods to rebind them.
And now think about how much this issue of limited buttons dictates game design and how playable characters interact with a world in games considering that 90% of AAA are console oriented.

That's not even mentioning historic examples like Deadly Shadows and Invisible War.
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>>749107296
>someone made you seethe so hard you're making threads about him years later
Mind telling us about this, anon?
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>>749107148
Hi Jared
How's your ex-wife?
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>>749107273
>sonic
Of fucking course it is. Manchildren are autistic so they're right in this one.
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>"The game doesn't let me play the way I want to."
And the way they want to play is avoiding integral mechanics. Learn the fucking game.
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>>749106470
>>749106789
Oh here's a classic
>this game has no blood therefore it's kiddy therefore bad
As if they genuinely believe that Dead Rising and L4D2 is "mature".
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>>749106470
>X series was always woke
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For me it's
>Bro, I paid 20 bucks for this game and it only lasted me 6 hours
I think 1 hour = 1 dollar mentality or anything approaching that is pure faggotry. How have you retards not solved this problem yet? You have one or two games that you paid between 0 and 60 bucks for that you can play for hundreds of hours over years, and then you vary it up with games of any length to spice things up and get different experiences.

This kind of mentality and retarded shit people say is how you get games padded up the ass. It's cancerous. People who say shit like this should be immediately punched on sight by a materializing gigachad.
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>>749107143
You reminded me of one.

People that say that a bikini ruins the immersion of a game, commonly horror games
>Um, how can you get scared if she's in a bikini? ICK! It breaks immersion!
Yet these same people will gladly run around in Resident Evil as Leon wearing a chicken hat. Both the hat and the bikini are optional of course
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>>749108145
>I think 1 hour = 1 dollar mentality or anything approaching that is pure faggotry.
Seconding the shit out of this.
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>>749108245
The bikini is also a post-game unlock 99% of the time.
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>>749108245
>Yet these same people will gladly run around in Resident Evil as Leon wearing a chicken hat
And these are the same people who screeches at Song of Saya for having a loli character in it. Faggotry knows no bounds.
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>>749106470
>if it doesn't have realistic graphics then it's bad
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>>749106470
>linear game bad
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>>749106470
>I didn't care/liked it so why should I care if it's removed
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>>749107481
I'm not Jared, but I know what you're referring to
If you ever meet him, do NOT shake his hand
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>>749108490
>spoilers
If I ever come in Jail for some reason. Not even then.
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>look, this game has trauma dump and personal drama, it means the game is deep and mature
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>>749108017
Trur
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>>749107229
This bait almost got me.
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>>749106470
People that go
>Why are you nerfing shit in a singleplayer game?! The game is ruined!
When it was obvious the thing nerfed was extremely overpowered and/or unintended in the first place.
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Fun is a buzzword.
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>>749108017
it is though
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>>749108679
Buzzwords are fun.
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>It's not a good X game but it's a good Y game.
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>>749106470
>it's a single player game who cares
Usually in reference to balancing issues
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>relatable = good writing
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>pve/coop games don't need balance
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"x game is a moviegame"

>looks inside, it's just a 15 hour third person shooter

Never made sense, ridicule how easy those games have become over the years because that's the real problem of them
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>>749108917
Tell me which game you are talking about. There is such a thing as “too much balance” and I can give you the perfect example for that: FFXIV.
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>>749108917
coop balance always means nerfing everything so it's a fine sentiment to have
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>um every game needs 500 toggles in the settings tho
>yeah that wont cause design bloat, dont like yellow paint? turn it off lmao, sure the devs obviously didnt design for that, but uh.. toggle it!
>TOGGLE IT! a mechanic is dogshit? uh, toggle it bro
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>>749108432
I'm a little sympathetic with this one the art of linear game design is a dying one. If all someone thinks of with linear games is walk and talk shit then I almost can't fault them for having never played so much as, I dunno, a fucking Ratchet and Clank game.
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Why do you all have an issue with X?
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>>749107315
>Then capitalism is holding PC back, not consoles. Just ignore them as a target platform, except you'll make more money if you whore your game out as a multiplat. I will say this much, western game design as a whole has been on the decline for as long as consoles have been their target platform, so around the 7th gen or so, maybe a little ways into the 6th.
Well no it's not capitalism, it's consoles. People don't have to buy consoles nor do they have to exist, they're an artificial market distortion to begin with. Nintendo has some argument for theirs because they keep everything exclusive all the time, the other two have no reason to exist excepting that stupid people don't recognize a bad deal when they fucking see one.
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>>749108784
This one's propogated by a handful of key titles like Resident Evil 4 and Breath of the Wild. Like 80% of the time, this refers to the same handful of games and rarely goes beyond in its logic.
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>>749108432
>>749109452
Yeah, it's not hard to see where this sentiment came from when the 360/PS3 library is absolutely full of games where the "level design" consists of samey corridors populated at a roughly equidistant rate by enemies that barely do anything, purely to serve as filler between cutscenes.
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>>749106470
Stop responding to Pokemonfags
Let them wallow in filth and tell them to fuck off if they escape their containment board.
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>>749108432
the pendulum swung from linear bad to open world bad and now were going back to linear bad again
maybe shit dev bad
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>>749106470
>This newer game is just a derivative copy of an older game. Why would I play this over older game?
Nigga they have completely different stories, soundtracks, aesthetics, and gameplay elements.
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>>749109561
It is capitalism because it's a free market, you can just not put your game on the other platforms. There is only ever one good reason to do so - you make more money off doing it. Consoles have cornered their market by being easier to grasp for laymen than PCs, and that 20th century anachronism has stuck much longer than it needed to. So it goes with the market spread, putting your game on consoles reaches a significantly larger audience, and one that's way less likely to pirate at that.
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>>749106470
Stupid people be stupid.
I think all idpol shitflinging reasons from "its woke, don't buy it!" To "its(or the dev) is anti-woke, he's our guy so buy it!" stuff are brainlet takes you see here. It takes only some dev being okay with trans people because their friend is trans and Jesus Christ almighty this board loses its mind.
To the point you cannot discuss certain games because mods don't like them for being "too woke". See D*ltar*ne(you can get banned from just mentioning it, really). Any excuse they give about it being a general could be slapped on any vidya thread, but mods and anons sees it as too woke so "oops no vidya talk, go back to ragebait and shitter screenshot catalog!"
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>>749109452
The funny thing is that if Wolverine was structuted more like an old R&C game, it probably would have come out better. Large levels, platforming challenges, enemy variety, different locations, level design that naturally pushed you in a direction but also encourages exploration, gimmick levels. Wolverine should have been a slam dunk for them. Just a melee R&C
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>>749106470
Teens are kids. There are some people who are technically aged into being adults in their 20s who are still very much kids
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>Anyone complaining about censorship is either a nazi or a gooner.
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>>749109486
He slowly got in a backseat since X4 and he gotten worse thanks to X7. X8 was the last X game we got and they tried to remedy his character. But it was too little too late.
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>>749106470
>you control the buttons you press
>>749107415
>>749107291
>>749107029
reddit race takes
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>>749109986
>infantilizing teens by infantilizing (you)rself
Keep in mind that our brain stops developing around 35. So you admit you're a child too, right? This is beyond retarded and you know it's too stupid.
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>>749109943
It's been confirmed that Sweet Baby was on call for that game so all design edge probably got sanded off from that consultancy.
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>>749106470
Game hard = you are bad if you criticize it
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>the dub has European voice actors that means it’s just as good as the official version of the voice cast
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>>749109986
>20s are kids too!!
Back to Tiktok you brainrotten zoomer faggot.
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>>749109841
>It is capitalism because it's a free market, you can just not put your game on the other platforms. There is only ever one good reason to do so - you make more money off doing it. Consoles have cornered their market by being easier to grasp for laymen than PCs, and that 20th century anachronism has stuck much longer than it needed to. So it goes with the market spread, putting your game on consoles reaches a significantly larger audience, and one that's way less likely to pirate at that.
No consoles cornered the market on people who cannot do math.
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>>749110149
>infantilizing kids
They do it to themselves most of the time. Also I’m 34 and do know better than the person who is even one month younger than me . Take it or leave it but you have to get on. Oars and get over it
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>>749109986
Kek you made two 20 something year old anons have a melty
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>gaming has come a long way
it hasnt
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>>749106470
>it's clunky
>the attacks don't have impact
>the game is linear
these are not real complaints
every game is for kids btw
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>>749108860
Actually based take tho. Fuck balance in single player games. If something is too OP, I can simply choose to not use it.
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>>749107029
It was never true, be grateful you get our ports or you'll be stuck with shit
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>>749106882
they absolutely were, but it turned out to be a good thing in retrospective
limiting power of consoles allowed teams and budgets to be smaller, and by extension for larger creativity and diversity in game types while still allowing them to be profitable
what was last big budget game that took risk, that truly tried something new?
Death Stranding?
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>>749109289
nta but tf2 mvm is notorious for having overpowered upgrades and cheater apologists, and they justify it as "the bots have no feelings" when the actual issue is that the game gets boring if there's nothing left for others to shoot
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>>749111326
Isn’t tf2 a pvp game? He was talking about pve
Perfectly balanced pve games be it mmorpg like FFXIV or something else are always more boring when balanced perfectly.
FFXIV is a great example of this because as the years passed all jobs lost their identity with the game eventually only having 3 classes in the form of roles: tank, healer and dps who all play similarly anyway. Two jobs within a role have extremely minor irrelevant differences to justify them being different jobs but in reality the game lost all of its mechanical depth and interesting skill design to streamlining and making dps perfectly even.
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>>749106470
Your friend is right, kill yourself retard
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>>749110419
>>749110458
samefag
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>>749111670
>Isn’t tf2 a pvp game? He was talking about pve
tf2 has a pve mode called man vs machine
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>>749108576
fata morgana and most visual novels
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>>749109986
>>749110419
>>749110458
Braindead take
t. 40
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>>749112232
Sorry unc you’re wrong
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>>749111032
>top
sou
>bottom
Putrid trash.
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>>749112306
You don't have the right to talk shit about me if you genuinely believe that you're a child. Then you shouldn't even be on this website by now. It's a Reddit take.
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>>749112232
No wonder you're retarded. Old people should be gassed
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>>749112420
Put on your reading glasses old man
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>>749106643
Kojima literally did that though
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teens are shit eating sub-human children still. t. 30.
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>>749106882
I get a good sense of schadenfreude out of the PCfags who hate what PC has become after it all but killed consoles. I wish them many console game design and controller auto-aim in competitive FPS to come.
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>>749112479
>>749112565
>>749112746 (I know it's you faggot)
>doesn't have a counter argument so it resorts to ad hominem
Imagine claiming yourself, a 34 year old fatso, a underage.
This is the most basement-dwelling redditor shit i've ever seen. Your mother really cuddled you hard holy shit.
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>>749112746
but their females tho...
t. 30
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>>749106470
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>If X wasn't being made Y would've been made instead
90% of the time that's used, it falls apart because people can't grasp these are different teams with different goals and projects they're talking about
They conflate publishers with developers
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>>749113006
Uh oh schizoid meltdown.
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>>749113092
I know leftists are inconsequential but how the fuck did they managed to infiltrate some of the niche spaces?
The SRB2 community is filled with brim of trannies and twittertards. Back then it wasn't this bad but now I'm entering another of their shitty fortresses.
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>>749113476
>the so called 34 year old underage calling me mentally ill
I accept your concession.
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>>749113006
>trying to use basement dweller as an insult
You’re on the wizard otaku website. Next you’ll post something retarded like 3DPD having the same value as superior 2D. How cute
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>>749106470
>we don't do "fun" here
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>>749113480
Sonic IP in general became a victim of that kind of fanbase.
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>>749113587
>wizard otaku
anime website you secondary
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>>749113841
Sonic fans are autistic in general, but even then they aren't THIS bad and cringy.
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>>749108432
This
Open world fatigue
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>>749106470
>he's just a small developer and he made it for free you can't point out it's flaws
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>>749114249
>they're just a small indie team of 5000 with a budget of 3 gorillion$ you can't point out it's flaws
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>>749109734
At this point, even mlpfags has much more integrity than your average pokenigger. And they're fan of a show made for fucking little girls.
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>>749114428
>horsefuckers are better than animalfuckers
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>>749110052
>X7
I don't know why Capcom thought it was a good idea to lock the main fucking character behind end-game.
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>>749115593
Nobody grasps why anything about X7 was done the way it was. It is truly an anomaly of a game.
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>>749109385
No it isn't. Balance has more nuance to it than just "dmg number go up". It's tied to leveldeisgn, animations, enemies and players speed, affecting other mechanics. Endlessly buffing things to even them out breaks the game design and leads to powercreep. Nerfs no matter how unfun they may seem are necessary for the game's "health".
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>>749106470
"I like Playstation."
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>>749117460
Today, absolutely. 25 years ago, that was a reasonable thing to say. But now it's a brand infested with skinwalkers, the people that knew anything about getting good games on the platform have long since left.
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>>749106470
That one spongebob rollercoaster gif. It’s not even wrong in a lot of cases but i’m sure most people using do so just because it’s what you’re suppose to and/or to shitpost
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>>749106470
Women are valid video game consumers that play and spend as much as any male.

It's beyond retarded to think this and it's killing industry.
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>>749118692
I mean, the healthy version of following this line of thought is basically making yet another farming game or similar "cozy" busywork game.
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>>749115593
My assumption is because X was too fucking strong and trivializes the game at his base kit. Which is a shame cause X in the few 3D segments is fun to use, but by that point you're done with the stupid game.
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>>749120321
>forces you to play a third of this shit ass game at the barest minimum, with characters that feel like shit AND ass to control, before you unlock the titular character that is halfway bearable to control
I reiterate, nobody grasps why anything about X7 was done the way it was.
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>>749120321
Well you're assumption is wrong because it's for the new character.

>>749116389
>>749121039
>Nobody grasps why anything about X7 was done the way it was
Oh shut the fuck up, it's not a urban legend, it's made by the same development team behind Resident Evil 5. That's why it's so bad, it's because it was made by a Team C who never made a Mega Man game before. Even Inafume said this.
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>>749106470
>pic
Reminder that this is the guy who killed Maria.
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>>749106470
>It's optional content therefore it doesn't matter that it sucks, stop complaining
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>>749106470
>everything is political
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every modern video game has side quests but everything in ff7r that isn't a cutscene is 'filler'
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>>749107018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NRrzYx0o24
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>Game everyone is shitting on announces they have Denuvo
>"Piratefags are just mad they won't be able to pirate it" faggots pop out of the woodworks
>Game is an irredeemable flop
>Repeat
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>>749106470
>it's woke
And it's all because of some dumbshit like there's a npc that's brown or a woman protagonist or something like that. Unless the characters are going "Fuck Het, Cis White people! Check your Privilege!", I don't give a damn.
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>>749121185
>it's made by the same development team behind Resident Evil 5. That's why it's so bad, it's because it was made by a Team C who never made a Mega Man game before.
Big gamble for a franchise jump into 3D, one that even Command Mission handled with more grace. Also doesn't excuse a lot of the decisions - X3 was also a flawed game handed to a side team and even that hardly made decisions half as baffling as some of X7's.
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>>749113480
From what I understand there was a really long lul in activity over in the SRB2 forums/custom content scene and after mania came out they got swarmed by a discord group that ran a hostile take over.
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>>749106470
>sexiest character in the franchise is vilified by faggots who claims she ruined games with obvious development issues and bad gameplay decisions
>she doesn’t appear anymore
>new games are still shit
>we just lost a sexy character
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>>749106470
For me it's the age-old reddit-ism of
>howlongtobeat / retail price = value
As though games are just an interchangeable drug that gives you a high for x amount of time and then can never be used again
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>>749122586
Dollar per hour shit is for people who consume products instead of enjoying video games. Doesn't matter how good or bad something is, so long as it "provides its value" or the fuck ever.
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>>749122000
Yeah even if it was a different team that handled it with no prior Mega Man development experience, that part is irrelevant. They weren't making a traditional Mega Man X game to begin with so the only thing they would need is some basic documentation.
>X is fast
>X jumps, shoots and dashes
>X is blue
Like you said, it had far more to do with bad decisions. That includes shifting the focus to Axl.
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>>749106470
>"optional"(forced) pvp is o-okay, i-it's a p-part of the g-game, STOP LIVING IN A BUBBLE *changing diapers*
stop
just stop
go to gay bar or something, if you want to be brutally raped by psycho troon
i am still mad that star citizen did not added single game mode like similar games added long time ago
but then
chris is lying fuck (probably jew even)
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>>749118692
>Women are valid video game consumers
Yes
>that play and spend as much as any male.
No

When you look at the averages its a male dominated hobby by far
>but 50% of gam-
I don't care about their retarded classification.
You aren't a regular player of games just because you have played a game for an hr that year.
Unless you consistently engage with the hobby for multiple hours a week and play a variety of different games then no one should consider you a potential customer in the same audience as others.

The biggest problem is people looking at incredibly generalised data instead of data specific to what they are actually making.
Looking at the demographics of literally every time of game ever fucking made is ridiculous when you know you are making a game in a specific genre on specific platforms, look at THOSE demographics.

I don't understand why video games haven't figured this out when marketing in every other fucking industry has. So many things are advertised at specific people who are the ones who buy that specific thing, even if others use it, identifying the one who pushes the purchase for it to happen is very important. The easiest example is how much household products are advertised to women, be this appliances, groceries, cleaning, etc because women are the ones who push for this purchase to happen, its because women are often the ones doing the shopping for them and their family, not because men don't engage with them, not because men don't use them.
If you looked at the data for example of like who eats minced beef, you will probably find its pretty close to 50/50, maybe men slightly more, but if you look at the data of who PURCHASES it, you will see its mostly women.

These are important distinctions and video games is just so awful at targeting their own demographics with what they make.
If you are making some big fuck off action combat rpg, then you need to cater towards men. Women don't play them.
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>>749122126
Wait, can you tell me more about this hostile take over shit? With screenshots? Because that would make it best in my collection.
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>>749123984
Last I cared about SRB2 was in like 2009, sorry booboo
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>>749124092
Fuck you nigga at least explain it
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I tire of furfags who think they weird fetish and desire to fuck real life farm animals has the same quality or value as kemonomimi media
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>>749108917
This is the one that gets me. I think the people who suggest this just want co-op/pve games to be adult Cocomelon.
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>>749124153
To my understanding that's what I said was what happened. I can't "explain" it further.
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>Git Gud being a hard counter to any sort of criticism or discussion of a fromsoft title that isn’t 100% positive
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>>749124395
by who?
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>>749124397
Just post
>hitbox
Ez peasy
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>>749122239
Hehe, I just realized Crystal was trapped in a Crystal for like 95% of her game.
hehehe
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>”oh that’s optional you don’t have to do that if you don’t want to” or “just cheese that part via this exploit or mod”
It’s a fucking video game the whole fucking thing is optional, if there’s a part that sucks ass I should be able to discuss how much it sucks and why
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>>749124514
The fuck do you mean "by who?"
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>>749125090
anon...
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>>749113937
>create a cute femboy
>trannys take another one from me
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>>749106470
>You only think that old game is good because nostalgia
It's retarded to read this when I got into some of these games recently and even started with the newer versions. What am I nostalgic about? 2-4 years ago?
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>>749125228
B-but the japanese said it's a she therefore she's trannss!!!
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>>749125278
This, but when I played an old game from before I was born, like 3 years ago.
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>>749125308
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>>749108784
>>749109579
BoF DQ is a good game, like it's honestly very good.
It's just an extremely bad Breath of Fire game.
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>>749106470
>fun is just a buzzword
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>>749106470
You don't hear this one often anymore but
>turn based game are a technological artifact from old games
People eventually STFU when good turned based games kept coming out and winning game of the year every other but I was so sick of hearing it like 5 years ago.
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>>749125709
I hate that Square Enix listened to these cunts for Final Fantasy
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Discussing anything related to Metroid on /v/ will make you wish that Metroid as a series will just die, because it always ends up in “any and all cutscene bad” autism.
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>>749126109
Isn't that just one guy?
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>>749126147
Yeah, and he’s in every fucking Metroid thread without fail.
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>>749125709
If you're referring to Excrement 33 there is still nobody willing to pretend that game was at all not a giant overmarketed piece of crap, not that there isn't anything wrong with turn based games, it's that the design basically boxes it all into puzzle gameplay, or you add a gimmick that lets you (mostly) ignore enemy turns, because the mechanics are mostly there to be as abstract as possible so you can paint on top of them with story.
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>>749126109
>>749126183
He's not wrong
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>gameplay is all that matters
Sure, until you know what you like. At that point, you can focus more on the aesthetic aspects of the game. Nothing wrong with calling out gameplay, but at a certain point of experience that simply becomes a reflex. You stop actually thinking about that much at all, there's only so many ways to push the buttons.
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>>749106470
quite literally anything mathewmathosis has ever said in a video or on twitter
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>>749107029
>>749107291
reminder the vast mayority of PC goyim have a rig worse than a PiS5
and more than half have one worse than a docked switch 2
at this point it's PC goyim that are holding gaming back with their willingness to slurp dogshit optimization because someday they may probably be able to buy a x090 tier card (and have it burn their house down a few days later)
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>>749108917
Objectively true tho.
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>explain why something is the way it is and the larger role it has in the gameplay/story
>”so it’s shit on purpose”

If you’ve ever used this line you are hopelessly autistic and I hope you never reproduce
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>>749108917
I think PvE/Co-Op games need balance
Balance tuned heavily in game's favor
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>>749128018
I mean if we're talking about older games, sure, but nowadays there's a fuckload of examples of game mechanics/story elements that are shit on purpose.
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>>749128018
the problem is way too many people do try to excuse dogshit elements in something, so the "so it's shit on purpose" it's perfectly justified
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>>749128108
>I am silly
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>>749128018
As a survival horror fag, I felt this one.
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>>749126385
>there is still nobody willing to pretend that game was at all not a giant overmarketed piece of crap,
you are so out of touch with normalfags. I never played it but I would 100% be crucified by my normalfag friends if I dared say the game wasn't amazing.
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>>749128649
Maybe you are man, even the single person I know irl who entertains "The" game awards at all is some turbo autist who got caught masturbating at work. Nobody give a shit about the opinions of game journos and basically everyone was on the same page that we only checked it out to see what new shit got announced because it's the one time of year nintendo can't be fags and drop a direct to drown out any and all news regarding games coming out.
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>>749106882
Correct but consoles also encourage a more comfortable, easily accessible home environment for games. Like how you would rather watch DVDs on your TV than on your phone.
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>>749108145
well the problem with 1 hour = 1 dollar is that the 1 dollar never went up with inflation. The other side though is no one wants to pay 80$ + DLC + tax + tip for a game that lasts 10 hours.
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>>749121397
The more I read these posts. The more I feel a deep rage inside me. Not that they're wrong. I also had this same mentality as many other posers out there. Until I actually tried this "optional" content and it just sucks ass. And when I called this shit out, explaining on why it was bad on autistic detail, I became a "traitor" in their eyes. Doing mental gymnastics while jumping through insane hoops, all over a constructive criticism.
If these people are malding and seething over pointing out the obvious, then there's something wrong with this community.
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>>749128846
Inflation is a factor, but I think the bigger deal is that nobody wants to pay "over" full price for the base game + whatever DLC was cut to sell later that is on a good day, as good as a game that released a decade ago (generally they're worse).
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>>749128018
>reddit spacing retard can't understand why something being shit doesn't automatically mean it's good
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"Flop"
"Slop" is merely a matter of your gut feeling, but "flop" requires objective data
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>>749125519
It is
But you can have fun with terrible games, like TRAG
But don't confuse "I had fun" with "it's good"
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>>749128108
Right side guy is correct in all three of these btw
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>>749129057
That seems more like cope that scamming people is legitimate business raj, or do you want to address the elephant in the room that basically all of social media and a considerable portion of gaming is scamming people into buying shit they won't play like the point of games is selling them, not having people playing them?
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>>749106470
>it has good reviews so its good
even a friend of mine who I think is intelligent and should know better defaults to this sort of crowd thinking. He essentially makes the case that if you like a genre, and there's a game with overwhelming reviews in that genre, if you don't like it you're being contrarian for the sake of it. He basically already has me in a box regarding expedition 33 when I do get around to playing it, he told me that I like RPGs so I *should* like it, and if I play it and don't, it's just because I decided in advance to dislike it. So basically the game cannot be bad, either I like it or I'm being contrarian. It's like a more thought-out version of "lots of people like it so it can't be bad", it leads to the same place but sounds less dumb.
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>>749106807
As someone with PHYSICAL DISABILITIES, I have to say..NO I DO NOT CONTROL THE BUTTONS I PRESS.

I fucking hate that shit. I hit buttons I didn't mean to hit all the fucking time and there's nothing I can do about it other than unbind them. Meanwhile, they put fucking CHEAT CODES under "accessibility options".
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>>749107025
For the last ten years, "old good, new bad" has legit just been the case though. It's unfortunate, but that's why the crash is happening.
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>>749110805
>bro just like use something else xd
Ignoring the problem doesn't mean it's not a problem
That aside this mindset is beyond alien to me do you not have any fucking preferences at all? A favorite playstyle/class/weapon/whatever the fuck
Imagine for a second you really liked playing rogues
You boot up the game only to realize rogue is so broken you can beat the game with your eyes closed and it's no fun at all
Surely you can see how that's a shit fucking time
>uhhhh I'd just play mage or warrior
Okay now imagine if you didn't like playing those and your only options were a class you don't like and a class that's broken
Also more often than not the issue isn't just shit being OP but other shit being dogshit as well
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>>749122586
I will not buy a 4 hour game for $20.
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>>749106470
The 2 most retarded takes
>Gacha are not games
>That game is shit it has coomer designs
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>>749107175
Thirst is a fine mechanic. Same with durability. It's just that 90+% of games have no fucking clue how to do them without making everything fucking suck. In fact, I've only ever seen TWO games do them well. Dark Cloud 1 and Dark Cloud 2/Dark Chronicle.
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>>749129449
Gacha are not games.
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>>749108017
I saw several retards call OKAMI woke because Amaterasu is a girl.
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>>749106882
>>749127071
I don't really agree with the whole "consoles hold pc back" argument either, but consoles do make little sense for existing these days.
It's not like the 70s and 80s where teaching your 6 year old
>A:
>dir
>[name of game's executable file].exe
to play a game was ever considered normal. Digital downloading and their storefronts has made games these days even more "plug and play" than ever before.
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The fps whores that won't touch a game unless it's at LEAST 120 fps.

Also, you can't forget the retards that think it's possible to make a game for EVERYONE. News flash, some people REFUSE to touch certain genres while other people refuse to play anything OUTSIDE OF THOSE GENRES. You CANNOT please both.
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>>749129449
Nigger even a basic overview of /v/ these days could you tell you that coomer games are no-effort garbage.
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>>749112103
Indie games are way more guilty of this
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>>749129630
>The fps whores that won't touch a game unless it's at LEAST 120 fps
are completely right
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>>749129536
>but consoles do make little sense for existing these days.
physical game ownership with nintendo
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>>749129630
they're right, modern action games are unironically unplayable below triple digit framerates. I can show forgiveness and "adapt" for PS2 games like god hand but anything released post 2016 making me suffer 60fps or god forbid 30fps I will not play and trash it as it deserves
fuck astral chain
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>>749130239
Honestly you hit diminishing returns around 90hz and that's even without touching on the esports fud meant to sell you shit that getting 900 fps gives you an aimbot in every game please for the love of fuck by a rtx 6090ti it's TOTALLY necessary!!!
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>>749130410
Nintendo can sell a first party cartridge drive that connects to your PC via USB.
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>>749129449
>Gacha are not games
this is objectively true regardless of how much you cope, not because gacha itself bad inherently (it is bad inherently) but because GAAS slop in general is bad inherently
if it's not fully playable from start to end completely offline once the updates are finished (and one could be argue on the raw 1.0 version) then it's not a real game
the second one is indeed retarded and it's just pajeets and goyim hating on attractive girls however
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>>749130485
Or I could just play it on my switch.
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>>749130560
>has nothing to do with physically owning the game
Don't hurt your back moving that goalpost.
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>>749129449
Yes gacha isnt games like how pornography isnt cinema or how the third-world dung you eat isn’t food.
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>>749130410
>physical game
Entirely fictitious distinction that doesn't exist.
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>>749130410
That's debatable. But if I could just connect Switch Joy-Cons to pc without issue, that'd be cool. I am a dumb man, baby.
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>>749130617
>gayben tranny needs to leech off nintendo to dream about having physical game ownership on his PC again
lol
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>>749130787
I don't give a shit about physical ownership of games. You're the one that brought it up as a nonsensical reason for why consoles should continue to exist and I just pointed out how your asinine defense does not hold water.
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>>749129057
Yeah, no one on this site uses that term correctly.
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>>749129536
On top of that, consoles now are more complicated than they were in the 90s. Nintendo is still arguably somewhat plug-and-play, but other consoles have to install the game and sometimes download day 1 patches, not to mention the ever increasing push towards all-encompassing subscriptions. That's annoying for people who just want to put the game in and flip a switch like in the 90s. Consoles are more tedious than ever while PC is easier than ever.
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if someone says any words in the list I automatically believe the opposite of whatever they say
>munch/muncher
>frustrating
>repetitive
>archaic
>dated
>sensibilities
>muscle
>respect
>clunky

these are all copes from shitters who got filtered by a good game, or are trying to pump up some useless saferetro trash
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>>749106470
>Harder games are automatically better than easier games
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>>749106470
Shit on any game that /v/ doesn't hate by default(woke shit) and provide clear and concise critism, the replies will range from:
>take your meds
>schizo
>"insert boogeyman here"
Some fandoms are beyond interacting with, they are filled with toxic positive faggots who would rather watch their game die a slow death by normalfags then lose relevance in the public eye.
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>>749132409
>munch/muncher
I never seen this one.
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>>749132409
Archaic and repetitive can be contextually fine if someone's making genuine observations about a game while discussing it, and I don't know what the issue or even context is with "muscle" beyond muscle memory. Otherwise, solid list.
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>>749106470
>why balance the game? it's PvE
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>>749132808
quarter muncher. they all say the word munch every time
>>749132886
yep muscle memory, another shitter cope. archaic and repetitive sound good on paper but in practice they are used to slander games for being designed to be replayed. i never heard someone good use these terms
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>complain about the price of anything
>"what are you poor?"
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>>749130463
I never said MODERN. I've seen them call OOT unplayable because it isn't 60+ fps.

>>749130239
They're completely WRONG. 15 FPS is perfectly playable(oot and banjo Kazooie/Tooie for example). 30 is better. 60 breaks some older games, and anything above 60 is a matter of taste.
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>>749106882
not a big deal but I remember addons not being officially recognized in ffxiv because consolefags wouldn't be able to play with them
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>>749112407
>csgo
>soul
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>>749106470
the hyper fixation on wokeness. it's never about the actual game in question but a means to derail discussion of the game to instead whine about the same thing for a decade+, muddies basically all legitimate criticism of a game that the chuds are using as outrage fuel for the week. like discussions of localization censorship are basically impossible to navigate now because any actual discussion of the topic is derailed by culture warriors turning it into yet another pointless battlefield, and any legitimate criticism is easily written off as dipshits complaining about panty shots.

if we're talking specifically about ACTUAL discussion of the medium, I'd have to say it's the notion that every game must appeal to the individual specifically, and that genres and games that do not are bad and must be "fixed" for me like to them, at the cost of the original fanbase who could appreciate the genre and the mechanics implemented in them. this kind of stance is slowly killing turn based JRPGs, as genre staples like maze-like dungeons with random encounters are falling by the wayside for linear affairs with symbol encounters so you can never get lost and you can avoid fights on the way to bosses. or even the addition of full heal fountains before boss fights so you don't have to actually manage your resources through a dungeon crawl. turning the engaging loop of exploration, resource management and battle strategy into busy work inbetween story beats.
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>>749135381
Wrong. Wokeness is a giant red flag. Period.
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>git gud
I remember when this started so I do understand why it was necessary, but past about ~2015 or so it's turned into one of the most retarded copes in gaming.
>Oh you think this is badly coded? Git gud
>Dev wastes your fucking time? Git gud
>Entire sections are just plain not fun at all for normal humans? Git gud
>Difficulty curve is spikier than a cat's dick? Git gud
>Random genre switches for no reason that are totally contrary to the rest of the game? Git gud
>Game actively fucks itself over through a series of terrible decisions that limit its potential massively? Get. Fucking. Good.
It's to the point that I've seen THE DEVS OF GAMES THEMSELVES under alt accounts use it to deflect criticism more than once. The best part is that I'll probably get at least a few retards thinking I'm talking about their game in particular who won't even read this far and will start bitching and calling me a scrub, but every single point up there is actually from a different game and a few are from more than one.
No, faggot, your game being dogshit is not a skill issue. Enduring through unenjoyable garbage in a product I paid for is not a skill. If I'm sub-2 hours you're getting refunded.
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>>749135560
>I am a dipshit who cannot discuss the medium and must derail every topic to the one thing I can talk about: how much I am obsessed with American liberals
ok
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>>749135915
discussing how wokeslop paid by literal israel trillionaires is killing the medium is talking about the medium
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>>749135381
>>749135915

Usually a game with woke (anti-white, anti-male, anti-tradition, anti-religion, anti-capitalism, etc.) morals means that
1. the writing is going to be sloppy distillations of previous better works, as usually speaking, moralists can't into logos, just pathos and ethos from time to time. Nothing is going to be convincing in the game itself that the morals it presents are worthwhile. It's just going to be some jank ass "subversion" of the hero's journey, with a boatload of very boring whining. It's every cutscene, being some fat lardo jones bitching about men or capitalism or depression. It's very boring. It's been done, and when it was popular, it wasn't very well done.
2. the game itself is going to be crap because that sort of moralistic pandering can't exist if there's enough oversight to reign things in. Any dev or publisher worth their salt would immediately go "hold up, let's actually avoid the shitty discussions and asmon recap video," and focus on the gameplay
3. Broadcasting its moralism is a sign that the publisher has zero confidence in the turd in the first place

Sorry man, but most of your shitty ass wokeslop wokeflop games were pretty bad. I'm not gonna die on the hill for a 3rd rate game written by a 4th rate hackfraud.
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>>749135915
It's called pattern recognition, you fuckinh retard. For instance, if a horror game insists on warning me about FUCKING HORROR ELEMENTS, or the devs insist on shitting their pants on twitter over trump while using the game to say "orange man bad", the game is dogshit. The wokeness is merely a giant red flag.

I'm sorry that you're a subhuman without the ability to recognize patterns that have been repeating consistently for over 10 years, but that's not my fault and you shouldn't be allowed to breed.

>>749136103
>>749136170
Thank you. So far, I have a 100% success rate on my predictions of whether a game is going to suck ass or not, and woke shit is one of the biggest red flags out there.
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>>749135381
Wokeness is absolutely a point of criticism of both the dev teams and the products but I will agree that it's gotten to the point where people just go
>black character = woke
>woman = woke
>dyed hair = woke
etc.
Now, the reason for that is because a solid 50% of the time a game advertising itself with characters in a certain, very visibly identifiable style is going to be abject woketrash garbage, but that still leaves 50% where it's not.
I've had zoomers unironically tell me that Sgt. Johnson being in Halo makes it woke. I've had people tell me that Samus is woke because she's a woman. I've had people tell me MGS3 is woke because of the Boss. It's absurd.
Like, nigga, woke is about propaganda being pushed in your fighting face. It's about the black character being there specifically to exclude a white (often ginger) character. It's about the woman being there to emasculate the men and make them look stupid. It's about weird leftist talking points being brought up at inappropriate times.
It's not about a game or a book or a movie just happening to have a character who isn't a straight white man.
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>>749136103
>>749136170
>>749136250
>>749136310
see what I mean? I offer something related to the medium, and all I am met with is shock and surprise, the same complaining about american liberalism we've been seeing for over a decade now. a board full of professional dead horse beaters.
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>>749134882
Whether or not it's playable depends on how it was animated. OoT is animated for 20fps and that is the only framerate it's playable at. 30 or 60 is not better for OoT 64 and never will be because it requires smoothing out and interpolating the animations which creates the video game equivalent of soap opera effect. The reason why modern games are unplayable at 30 or even 60fps is because they were not animated at any specific fps, they were intended to look good on the dev's $20,000 enterprise machine where the game can hit 200fps.
So in effect, you and that other guy are both right. Modern games are not playable at 30fps, yet old games were completely playable at 20. If a modern game dev actually keyframed his animations at 30fps then the game would be playable at 30, but modern devs don't even bother doing this.
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>>749136310
Wokies also tend to be INCREDIBLY fuckign racist. Look at Barret from FF7. Look what they did to him in the fucking demake.

They've unironically staid "the japanese are too stupid to tell stories correctly, so the west has to fix it for them"...I'm paraphrasing of course.
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>>749136310
>fighting
Wow thanks autocorrect I definitely wanted "fucking" to be corrected you piece of shit.
Can't even fucking shitpost from the comfort of my bed in 2026, goddamn.
>>749136347
You didn't even read my post, faggot. And I'm not american.
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>>749135742
But anon you need to git gud
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>>749136389
Oh yeah it's disgusting the level of stereotyping and other stupid shit they put into everything they make. "No no no, you can't have your culture, you have to have MY culture's interpretation of it!" is practically their modus operandi for everything they do. They're basically textbook supremacists, they just think everyone else is inferior and pitiable instead of inferior and detestable.
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>>749136428
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>749107148
Ice cream? I love ice cream!
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>>749136361
Yup. Going above 30 fps in OOT breaks some shit, oddly enough. Mostly timers iirc.

But my point stands. You can't just say "games are unplayable below 120 fps" as a blanket statement, and then triple down on it when classics like OOT or Banjo Kazooie get used as examples of why you're wrong.

>>749136392
Gotta love autocorrupt lol.

>>749136490
For example, I went out of my way to work with SEVERAL translators to check the script of TTYD before the woketards got their nasty little mitts on it. Vivian was NEVER a tranny. EVER. They tried to make it even CLEARER that he was just a crossdresser in the demake, and the wokeys pulled that shit AGAIN. Wokeys are possibly the MOST racist and the MOST sexist group out there.
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>>749135381
>>749135915
Maybe stop shoving in your hot button faggotry then people will stop nooticing, k?
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>>749106470
>FF7 Remake cones out
>Turns out it's not a remake, but a monkey's paw time loop sequel to the Cumpilation
>Suddenly a wave of retards flood in arguing what constitutes a remake/remaster/reimagining/1:1
>The fanbase is so divided no one can agree on what it is
And it's only ever with this game too. I've never seen such a pedantic topic until this very game came out that I almost want to say it's an attempt to gaslight people to stay on the hype train since if they were to find out what's really going on they'd be disappointed or annoyed they were swindled, much like "purists" are.
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>>749106470
but all games are kids game
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>>749136594
The weird erasure/intolerance of androgyny and crossdressing is one of the more crazy effects of recent woke gendershit, and I'm always amazed by it. For a while it was largely acceptable to be a tomboy or a feminine man, but now instead of far-righters going after you for it like you'd see in the 80's and 90's, it's far-lefters doing it; and instead of trying to force you to conform behaviorally, they try to make you undergo massive reconstructive surgery and hormone therapy.
I'm truly coming to the point where I think there are just people who display this mob mentality inherently regardless of upbringing or ideology, and society needs a way to recognize and exclude them from being taken seriously.
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>>749137001
Its such a massive war that i am excited for both the game and the flame wars by now, the finale will break /v/
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>>749107018
>it's an emotion-driven character drama, the overarching story having major logical inconsistencies according to its own in-universe logic doesn't matter!
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>>749137038
Same. I just want it to be over already and to see how Sqeenix'll explain all this nonsense.
Whatever the case, he ending's going to piss everyone off or leave them feeling exhausted and empty.
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>>749137020
I've legit had hundreds of trannies attempt to groom me like an angry mod because I had a small collection of MLP figurines. Fucking hell.
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>>749137502
Mob. Fucking hell this keyboard.
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>>749106470
>"Arcade shmups aren't a real skill-based game, it's pure memorization"
toted by niggers who never played shmups
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>>749137502
Similar experience but for a variety of less specific reasons like
>Oh you write as a hobby? Take estrogen
>Oh your jawline doesn't look like gigachad? Take estrogen
>Oh you use skincare products to help keep down chronic acne? Take estrogen
>Oh you're not comfortable sleeping around? Take estrogen
>Oh you play Stardew Valley? Take estrogen
>Oh you liked a few romance Kdramas? Take estrogen
>Oh you're a software engineer? Take estrogen This one is extra funny because I fucking hate my field of work and I'm glad it's dying
They're insufferable. Anyone who isn't a gigachad jock benching 700lbs while fucking 20 women and throwing hay bales half a mile with one hand while shooting lesser men with an LMG in the other is apparently an "egg" who needs to take fucking estrogen according to them.
The worst part is when you tell them "No, I'm totally fine, thank you, I will never take estrogen" they lose their fucking shit and try to destroy you.

Anyway, fuck troons, fuck wokeslop, bring back true equality in media, bring back attractive, positive characters.
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>>749106882
It goes both ways. It used to drive me nuts how devs wanted to prioritize design for cross-platform games primarily with PC gamers (specifically streamers) in mind even though console players made up 80%+ of the game's player base.
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>>749106807
>if that power is broken and makes the game too easy don't use it!
I've seen this argument being made for years, even by retards on here trying to defend some game which was way too easy. It's honestly great to see the sentiment encapsulated in such a quotable tweet because it funnily enough crippled its credibility. Now anyone trying to make that stupid argument will find it hard to be taken seriously because they just immediately get likened to the "you control the buttons you press" faggot.
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>>749127157
Games generally need to provide some resistance to truly be engaging
Pve games for me can be extremely boring if they don't threaten me with death, getting lost or not properly making a good build or some shit.
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>>749106807
It really fucked things up because his response was in regard to something that you did not "control." If you weren't using the specific grenades and weapon attachments on specific enemies in Doom Eternal, you would exhaust a lot of ammo killing it instead of pressing the instant win button.
It fucking tained any kind of reasoning towards actual optional shit.
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>>749137950
It's an extension of the
>The devs didn't intend for you to use <thing the devs put hundreds of hours into developing>
line of argumentation. It's just cope from retards who can't let the thing they attached their personality to take any sort of criticism.
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>>749106470
Usually it's the people that say they're dads or some shit as a reason for a game to be nerfed/qol'ed to extreme simplicity.
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>>749107018
I'm so glad the average joe seems to get why this is a retarded argument nowadays because it is awkward trying to explain why one thing is allowed to be realistic and the other isn't. It really is tempting to just post that lord of the rings car image because it just cuts the point.
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>>749106470
Dollars per hour, the worst metric for game quality ever conceived. This line of thinking basically killed entire game genres past the 5th/6th generation and has pointlessly bloated countless modern releases.
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>>749106470
"Autist/autism"
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>>749137950
this shit also leads to other shit like chrono cross's demaster giving you the postgame bonuses INSTANTLY AND NEVER LETTING YOU UNBIND THE FUCKING KEYS FOR IT. DO YOU KNOW HOW NAUSEATING IT IS TO GO FROM HALF SPEED TO DOUBLE SPEED UNCONTROLLABLY?
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>>749106470
Speedrunning in general
No you should not be able to skip past 90% of the game and if a game punishes you for trying *cough DS2 cough* that's on you
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>This live service game has FREE updates.
No, it doesn't.
>It's FREE extra content.
No, it isn't.
>Why are you criticizing FREE stuff?!
Because it's in the game. Also, it's not free.
My specific example is Battlefield V. DICE declared from the get-go that there would be no splitting the player base with premium DLCs this time; instead, you buy the game and you get all the gameplay content updates. The promise-fulfillment and follow-on support for the game ended up being disastrous, but shills kept defending it by claiming each update was "free," as though it was outright generosity (from a fucking EA dev, no less) that we we're getting this content. Even though it was directly promised and paid for in the retail price of the game, and none of this "free" content could be played without paying that price first.
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>>749106470
Probably already been said at this point, but the whole "git gud" canned reply is very often used inappropriately. It should be used when someone complains about a (relatively) fair mechanic that really isn't that bad if you properly engage with the game. It is almost always used to excuse really fucking stupid balance decisions and legitimate criticisms of them.
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>>749134882
Kazooie runs at a stable framerate on original hardware. It's Tooie that's a slideshow.
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>>749139129
Kazooie's fps TANKS in a few specific areas. The Orange Tree is one of em. And Tooie isn't a slideshow. I hardly even notice when it DOES happen desu.
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>>749139262
where the fuck did Desu come from? I didn't type that. Anyway, It's definitely more common in tooie, but I'd HARDLY call it a slideshow.
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>>749106470
>single player game is released with a plethora of content relative to price
>reviews full of "dead game, devs don't care" because they delivered a finished product at launch instead of drip-feeding content over a span of 5 years
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>>749139354
>where the fuck did Desu come from? I didn't type that.
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>>749139370
We lost the war on DLC 15 years ago and this is the result.
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>>749115121
Yes
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>>749139472
Explain.
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>>749139580
baka desu senpai
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>>749106470
Kids' games and family-friendly are the same thing. That's why toys get labeled shit like "ages 7 AND UP" rather than "ages 7-12 and NO HIGHER"
Where you went wrong, was making up a bullshit definition in your head, and then starting arguments and getting all angry over a fallacious premise.
tl;dr you literally played yourself, "nigga".
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>>749137502
Where the fuck do you guys go to see this shit? I literally don't leave 4chan
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>>749129449
Brainlets got triggered hard by this one
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>>749139623
dafuq? That's a thing here?
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>>749139728
it's been a thing for like 10 years at this point
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>>749139728
ITT: anon learns about ancient wordfilters
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>>749137502
>>749137804
>I have fag hobbies and hang around hundreds of trannies but I'M NOT A TRANNY FAGGOT
ok fags.
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>>749139839
Try 20.
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>>749139724
Twitter was where mine happened. I was just so proud of myself for finally getting my hands on a shelf for my figurines.I made the mistake of posting a picture. They come out of fucking NOWHERE. One of the ONLY posts I ever made, and THAT was the result.
>>749139839
I've not even been on here for 6 months.
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Mincecraft is a good, respectable game.
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>>749140080
HAH. Bullshit. It went to total shit after Notch sold it.
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>>749106882
>Cross platform multiplayer
>Devs give consoleniggers aim bots on console because otherwise they would get destroyed
>Rts games are practically undoable as a concept on console because their means for microing units is so bad
There are more examples but those alone prove that it's true
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>>749137572
I'll do you one thats even worse all shmups play the same
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>>749106470
>game with episodic/chapter releases
>the writing in one of the chapters sucks for some reason
the popular take? ah it's shit ON PURPOSE the writer is actually a genius and you just don't get his vision!!
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Gun and Ball gamers thinking realistic=good really ruined the whole industry.
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>>749138151
>because it is awkward trying to explain why one thing is allowed to be realistic and the other isn't.
Because it's very easy to sniff out "what if" scenarios that the setting chooses to explore and bullshit designed because current year politics and social values demand it.

Lord of the Rings is explicitly one example because all it does is explore an alternate imaged earth where gods had a real and direct hand in shaping the world and it played out a series of consequences of that. Asking me to believe that a choir of angels sung the world into existence, a selfish one went bad, fast forwarding a few millennia after countless struggles for control of the world ensued, and letting a story unfold about the efforts of the mortal races to stand against his descendent's dark reign is one thing, because all you've done is ask me to believe a few supernatural things that make the setting and the story possible at all. Making random dwarves and elves black because current year black people want to see blacks everywhere is another, because these are current year diversity quotes that exist only to normalize diversity as a concept; it's never a situation that is taken seriously or explored within its own setting, because the point isn't to draw attention to it or to make it make sense in the context of a setting, it's just to reflect current year politics. Black dwarves aren't there because there was a branch off Dwarven clan that hand to survive for tens of millennia in the sandy desert, they are there because media executives want nigger dwarves to score blackrock bux.
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>>749137135
There are cases where that is the case, but most of the time the people saying that are just looking to deflect valid criticisms.
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>>749140518
hey, don't come cryin' to us when the lesbos don't work out.
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>>749136310
The term 'woke' has lost its meaning because there's no definitive definition that's colloquial within the hobby, on top of the usual progressive types constantly mudding the waters to make the opposition's complaints look ridiculous - which they've mostly succeeded - to normalfags and others who aren't in the know, and this had been a problem since GG. You just can't convince the majority of normalfags how this stuff works because it's too hard for them to comprehend and they don't kept up on how progressive's implement and utilize their propaganda when it started popping up during 3rd wave feminism, but I digress.

There's only one person I've head that's bothered to define it as an "aggressive" push for diversity/equity/inclusion, usually based on the belief that outcomes which lack these things are indicative of discrimination and/or unfair social treatment.
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>>749106470
>haha, it looks like your long-held sentiments about a particular vidya subject were recently expressed in a faggy video essay! better luck next time, pal!
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>>749140842
I mean, anyone with a functioning brainstem knows that "woke" in this context means "forcing shit down your throat". Be it politics or what have you.
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>>749140842
>The term 'woke' has lost its meaning because there's no definitive definition that's colloquial within the hobby
Sure there is. Woke is just shorthand for globohomo current year leftoids politics. Women are better and stronger than men, white straight male bad, nigger man good, foreigner people good, etc.
Just because bad actors choose to try to poison the well does not mean the term doesn't communicate a very clear and obvious social force at play.
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>Nuh uh, the base game is shit on purpose! The REAL fun (tm) is in playing with a bunch of ankle weights on and no [fun gameplay mechanics] because those are crutches!
The Gunvolt series is one of the worst examples of this, and it's peak dogshit game design. Replayability requires the base gameplay to be fun and removing game mechanics in the name of "difficulty" is peak retardation.
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>>749139882
>hang around hundreds of trannies
My man, I am regrettably a fucking SOFTWARE ENGINEER, I am required by my job to associate with these retards.
Not only that, but every community I used to participate in became overrun with them to the point that I ended up having to leave, partially due to their constant harassment and attempts at "conversion".
I don't give a shit what you think about my hobbies or tastes, either. Grown men don't need to posture on the internet anonymously to maintain male frame. Yeah I liked some sappy love stories, yeah I fucking write novels, yeah modded Stardew is fun as shit, what of it?
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Matchmaking
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>>749106882
Correct, you are the brainlet
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>>749140004
>I've not even been on here for 6 months
What a grand and intoxicating innocence
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>>749140914
Cope Mleccha whitetard you timmycels get all o your opinions from tranny breadtuber video essays and vomit out exactly what your eceleb said LOL



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