WHAT THE FUCK
global warming strikes again
So I'm guessing they over bought on inventory and literally can't sell what they have
ps5 sales must be abysmal
>>749128278>>749128302>supply go down, price go up they say>supply go up>price also go up
>>749128136These things cost 1500 dollars? And they have no games?!! SNOYS esplain yourselves.
>>749128136I voted for this :D
Maybe it's in response to the jailbreak?
>>749128215Global Jewing.
>>749128352late stage capitalism working as intended
>>749128136>1500 buckaroosjesus christjust buy a pc at that point
>>749128352Line must always go up.
>>749128352GameStop buys the consoles from Sony, they're a distributor, and they're contracted to buy a certain amount every quarter. They aren't obligated to buy any used ones, so the plan is to stop buying and selling used ones and only move the new units that they can't not buy
>>749128136>>749128479>>749128494seems inhuman.
This is only because of GTA 6 right...?
>>749128534Ram Issue
>>749128557>>749128540
>consoletards are finally starting to realize that the RAM price increases don't just affect PC
>>749128636just get ddr 4
>>749128576no, new super ultra deadly virus just dropped in russia and people are stocking on PS5 to become influencers and survive the new pandemy, or eat the PS5 I dunno.
>>749128136is that the same thing they did with that wii game back in 2012
>>749128467That's my guess
thanks trump
>>749128136How could Biden do this to us
Is this because they have too much unopened new consoles?
>>749128136No, seriously, who's buying this shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRdktH8aBpI
>>749128136Go higher.
You voted for this
>>749128136power to the players
Can someone please explain to me why a used console would cost more than the exact same one brand new?
>>749129108You're damn right I did.I want gaming to become untenable, it should cost normalfags at least $2500 to play the latest goyball game.
>>749129108>>749129252There won't be more games you like made, there will be fewer. People won't go into the industry at all.
>>749129220The new one is out of stock.
>>749129306>There won't be more games you like made, there will be fewer.Good, there are already more games than I could play in a lifetime.
>>749129321That still doesn't make sense
>>749129359You will get bored of the lack of drama which is what you actually like about gaming
>>749128829based nation-killeri voted for this btw
This is just to milk the last retards still using gamestop over amazon.
>>749129364https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand
>>749129306that's a good thing
>>749129390Holy fucking projection, did you seriously just post this, nigger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgflCE7zRpc
>>749129364Gamestop scalp prices TCGs--it was only a matter of time before they moved onto consoles
>>749129220A new jailbreak was released a couple days ago for all versions lower than the newest one. Pre-owned PS5 will have put of date firmware, so the price is there to make it more likely people get an unhackable one, or get more money from those that want it anyway
>Consoles >in 2026 and beyondReally?
>>749128352Number of people buying also either stay the same or go up, so it doesn't matter.Turns out you can just raise prices infinitely because people don't give a fuck about the cost and continue to buy every last CPU and RAM stick on Amazon, Currys, Ebay, etc. anyway. The Ryzen 7 5800X3D is positively ancient now and still sells for up to £500 because buyers are desperate to upgrade their AM4 mobos one last time.
>>749129364There's a shortage.
>>749128932Probably resellers.But it's like musical chairs. At some point somebody is stuck.
>>749128576Fucking putin had the black plague escape from lab
>>749129513Just buy a pre-built at this price point. You miss out on, what, 3-4 games this generation that aren't some kind of rerelease or multiplat?
>>749128136God damned COVID!!!
>>749129626Any reseller that buys a PS5 at $1000+ deserves to sit on whatever they have.
>>749129689It's Black plague now. Get with the times.
>>749128136That much for a console that only has 4 games?
>>749128692The only ddr4 CPU that can easily outperform a ps5 is the 5800x3d, and that's priced retarded high.
>>749129854more like a 3600x
>>749129689I thought it was crypto miners.
>>749129854Anon, the PS5 CPU performs worse than a 3800x, what the hell are you talking about?
>>749129914>easily outperforms>can't even match it
>>749129914I meant the PS5 pro, but anyway no, a 3600 is a minimum requirement for ace combat 8, for example, and the PS5 pro isn't running it all on low.
>>749128534I literally just bought a computer for $2000, I'd rather have what I have instead of a PS5 for 1500. It makes sense to buy one when they're 500, not when they're over a thousand.
>>749128494Nothing "late stage" about it, it's always been the case
>>749129949Barely
>>749130004But can the computer play GTA 6?
This may come as a shock to /v/, but consolefags are both dumb and rich.https://x.com/Troydan/status/1953657155896095112
>>749129854Eh? I bought a 5800x3d for cheap a few months ago. They've made a second run and you can get them for reasonable prices if you're still on AM4.
>>749128278A surplus would usually result in a price drop, not an increase.
>>749130031Not barely, 3 of the threads are reserved for the OS, even on the Pro.Neither of them are outperforming a 3800x, let alone something like a 5600x.
If my computer dies I might just die with it.
based Ryan Cohen maximizing my value
>>749130004I wouldn't pay a console a 1000 bucks either, but let's not pretend the experience is even remotely the same.On console you don't have to hunt down drivers, dodge viruses and malware, update the BIOS, find patches and mods and scour google to troubleshoot your specific issue, check for compatibility, read through minimum and recommended system specs etc etc etc.You press the button and you play.
>>749130084a year or so after release, yes
>>749130084In a year when they eventually release it on PC, if I really wanted to.
>>749130031the snoybox cpu trades blows with the 2700x thanks to its abysmal cache and use of gddr
Why does anyone care that Gamestop is ripping off people who are stupid enough to spend $1500 on a PS5 Pro a year before the PS6 launches just to play one game?It's like being upset that a millionaire has to pay more in taxes.
>>749130084Eventually, yes>BUT I WANT IT NOOOOOOOWWWWWWW
>>749130098Define reasonable price, especially if you consider 1000$ unreasonable for a PS5 pro (which is a full system).
>>749130092>dumbYes>richNo.Your average consolefag is basically just DSP, and he's also dumped thousands into shitty gacha microtransactions.
>>749130084That's like waiting until you're 40 to lose your virginity.
>>749130119Even a cheap computer can still play a fuckton of games... on top of also being a computer that can do everything else.
>>749128494Fuck off commie
>>749130203It took a 5700x and a 3070 to match base PS5 Death Stranding 2 performance, learn about the real world, PC fattie
>>749130203Any benchmark to back that up? I find it very hard to believe.
>>749128136Why are they doing this though? You have a bunch of fags spamming whatever reddit fotm "problem" they want to blame it on. But what is the actual reason they are making consoles 5x what they were like half a decade ago? The whole point of consoles is that they are cheaper than a good PC and can have games optimized to them. Maybe you could claim they believe they've found a retard customer base that will buy no matter what. But I kind of doubt that with how much PlayStation is bleeding money. It is like it is some sort of managed decline of most of the gaming industry. Perhaps this is the punishment for gamers being chuds.
>>749129854>"you need an intel 14th generation, a 5090 and 64gb ddr5 to run games like a PS5">what ps5 game requirements actually are on PC>the recommended specs run the game at higher resolution and FPS than a PS5I dunno how people have gaslit themselves into thinking the PS5 is a high spec machine.
>>749130371Managed decline plus yes, punishment for voting incorrectly.
>>7491303975090s probably stutter more than PS5s thoughbeit
>>749130092Literally could've bought a car with that Ball and gun gamers everyone.
>>749130371It's simple. They're so overstocked on new PS5s since no one is buying them. So they need a way to get rid of them. By making the used PS5s more expensive then the new ones, the goycattle will have no choice but to buy new.
>>749130284NOOOOO I MUST CONSOOOOM LATEST AAA GAMES HOW ELSE CAN I PLAY HOGWARTS LEGACY 2 WITH MALFOID MODS???!
>>749128494it's funny that you think corruption would just disappear if capitalism was abolished.
>>749130371>But I kind of doubt that with how much PlayStation is bleeding money.This. Sony's financial reports show Playstation has lost more money in the past few years than all the money they lost on the PS3.
>>749130260I got a 5800x3d and a 9060 along with another DDR4 ram kit for a little under 800$. Granted that was a system upgrade and not built for new. I'm not sure how much you'd spend if you were starting from scratch, after a point you are probably better off buying a new PC or a PS5.
>>749130345>headcanon>>749130353
>>749130451Ps5 pros have been sold out since the extended look though
>>749130430The CPU is the problem if you're stutteringEveryone should have a 9800X3D by now
>>749128494true
>>749130498*on paperNow show real world results, where it in fact>>749130345and where PCs stutter, have all kinds of issues on top of bad ports that tank their real world performance
>>749130502That's what (((they))) want you to believe
>>749128837How did Kamala Harris get so ugly so quickly? She looks like an orange man after only 2 years as president
>>749128136GTA VI hype is overinflating the value of consoles. I hate normies.
>>749129593>Bought the 5700X3D for around 160 when they were practically giving them awayThey fucked up
>>749128534are you retarded? a pc costs more than a car now you fucking moron. 10k gpu, 8k processor, 6k ssds, 10k ram, and i heard they're about to juke up the price of motherboards and cases soon too.
>>749130498Fair enough in synthetic benchmarks, but keep in mind on console you code to the metal, that gives you 50% or even double perf in some cases.Carmack said as much himself.
>>749130545why should anyone believe you, faggot?you're the one acting as if it was special, not meprove it
>>749128278if you can't sell the abundance of inventory, why would you raise the price, dumb fuck?
>>749130591That's not necessarily true anymore. PS5 is basically a PC, a little more optimized than windows, but still basically a PC.
It's near impossible to get a PS5 Pro now that's why it's as elusive as Steam Machine or a 5090.
>>749130175I literally do none of that on PC
>>749130454Anyone over the age of 18 caught posting malfoid deserves to be ground into cat food as far as I'm concerned.
>>749130591No one has coded "on the metal" on consoles in almost 20 years.There is no special sauce optimization you're getting in the modern era unless it's a Switch 2 port since it's on a different architecture, and even that happens less and less these days when modern engines let you click a button and compile for whatever architecture you need to build for.
>>749130641It would take a 1k+ PC to match a base PS5 so about double
>>749130591carmack hasn't done anything in the past 2 decadesif that were true then the ps5 wouldn't have to upscale from 720pvulkan and mantle are already low level APIs so that voodoo means nothing
>>749130713I mean if OP's prices are to be believed I can easily match a PS5's performance on a PC with the same price.
>>749130650So you don't update drivers? And steam literally has system requirements in every game page.
>>749130713Not really, an $800 PC can match a PS5.
>>749130643This.
>>749130713lmao copea 9060xt 5700 pc is cheaper and better than the pro in the op
>>749130643tendies are out of touch on how much PS5 is mogging rn
>>749130502Lol. No they're not.In Japan the pro is barely selling a hundred units per week.This was after they tried to hype themselves up by claiming the pro was super in demand, and that it would only be available via lottery.Only for them to then go "everyone is a winner"Only scalpers are buying them in the USA too. And they're stuck with them, because the base and pro play GTA6 at the exact same fps
>>749130772It's unnecessary to update drivers unless there's a specific problem you're solving.
>>749130772>So you don't update driversNope. Maybe my PC has some software that auto-updates them in the background, but I never mess with them.>And steam literally has system requirements in every game page.I know, but I don't look at them because my PC is strong enough to play any game I'm interested in playing (it is half a decade old and was not top of the line at the time)
>>749130793Once gtavi of is out well see if that rig will run it better than a PS5pro (it won't).
>>749130657>You mEn are SUCH CREEPS I'll kill you and feed you to Mr whiskers for that problematic age gap
>>749129220Infinite RAM price increases plus unpatched hackability. The same reason if some obscure shit game allows you to hack a console that game will quickly cost $400 on eBay until a generic hack is found. If you PS5 is collecting dust right now, log in while offline, check the version number, and if you won the lottery get yourself a bunch of money on eBay.
>>749130842Check any retailer online, they have been sold out at nearly all of them, why else is the used market seeing 1300-1500 dollar PS5 Pros?
>>749130454>>749130657>>749130929>Right wingers talking about 2013 tier Tumblr fanfiction Rule 63 slop like it is the Renaissance of right wing art>This is what they are focused on before a major electionKeep playing with your toys
>>749130892you mean the game that's confirmed to be running at 30 FPS due to its shit CPU and low memory? That's your benchmark?
If you're looking for a PS5 Pro, just wait until after GTA VI has launched. You'll end up seeing a flood of used consoles significantly depress prices.
>>749130760>>749130773>>749130793Does it come out of the box with the same power, put together and with high quality hardware and not no name parts from a mix and match mutt website?
>>749131027Bro, the PS5 is assembled using cheap Foxconn shit from China, fuck are you talking about?
>>749130846and on PC there is always something that needs solving because the software you run never stand still steam always updates so does your game and webkit
>>749130175>driversNVIDIA and AMD already made apps that are toggled on to install by default when you try to install a new driver and as far as I understand makes it even easier to do shit for retards like you>dodge viruses and malwareIt's 2026 no one is going to hack you they only target corporations now. Windows Defender and the W10/W11 OS itself will prevent any other shitty viruses from shitting up your PC>update the BIOSYou don't need to do this 99% of the timeThe 1% is when you buy an ASRock mobo and a 9800X3D>find patches and mods and scour google to troubleshoot your specific issue, check for compatibility, read through minimum and recommended system specs etc etc etc.You don't need to do this if you have bought a new modern NVIDIA X3D PC.
i dont know a single person who has a ps5
>>749131063Why do you type like a jeet?
>>749128540No, that's retarded and so are you. Gamestop are not obligated to buy PS5s, they could simply stop accepting them and drop the price of their current stock to get them out the door so they only have new stock.Tinfoil hat theory: they wanna lock people out of used PS5s because they have old firmware that can be more easily hacked.
>>749131105I can see your user agent jeet
>>749131027>moving goalposts alreadycoping snoy lmaothe snoybox is already a castrated product due to having to strangle the CPU with cut cache and gddr and having to share piddly 16gb of memoryYou don't get to ask for quality when the object of comparison doesn't have it
>>749131059The PS5 Pro is the most powerful standardized hardware in the world, just because you can put together a ricer doesn't mean shit
>>749128136>$1400 to play sportsball games and GTA 6 ( at 30 fps )
>>749131189I'm going to assume this is an AI agent or something.
>>749130638Probably to incentivize people buying the new consoles and not the preowned as the image says
$899 earlychads ww@
>>749131189I mean if we're using that as a metric the most powerful is probably some Apple M5 machine.
>>749130119I have six computers and two GPUs, and I could get by just playing emulators if I lose the GPUs. In a pinch I could probably survive with just a Raspberry Pi although web browsing would fucking suck.Hoardchads stay winning
>>749131136>Tinfoil hat theory: they wanna lock people out of used PS5s because they have old firmware that can be more easily hackedDoubtful. You can update the firmware even without logging in
>>749128136AND. YOU. WILL. BE. HAPPY.
It makes sense. Used women's panties also sell for more than brand new ones.
We went so quickly from the Wii era where suddenly everyone wanted a console to this era where it honestly seems like they hate the idea of consoles for whatever reason and are trying to phase them out.
>>749131426because all adults moved on to pc and all the children just play roblox on their phone
>>749131426The Wii launched in 1986, retard. It's been 80 years.
>>749131582Bigot chuds yet again wanting to return to a long gone time.
>>749128136Over 1500 dollars for a used PS5 that has a worse catalog of first party titles than the WiiU. How are snoys okay with this?
this is literally because they just got cracked today
>>749131426Consoles just became pre-built PCs. Back in the day there was a huge difference between a PC and a console. You didn't have PC compatible joypads, at best you had joysticks. Consoles were truly plug and play. The different interfaces led to different genres becoming popular. Console and PC exclusivity was the norm and multiplats were the exception. Starting around the PS3/Xbox360 era all of that slowly started phasing out.People shit on the Wii's motion controls as a gimmick, but it was really a point of difference. The WiiU though unsuccessful was doing a similar thing with the gamepad. Now even the switch/2 is barely different to the steam deck. We still have Nintendo exclusives, but that's about it and the other hardware manufacturers don't even really have that.
>>749131789Not all consoles are sold on the allure of first party titles
>>749131789>How are snoys okay with this?Already got mine, maybe you should have too
>>749131789They're spending 1600 for GTA 6.
>>749131136>they could simply stop accepting themYou have never had a job
>>749131426Objectively yeah. Xbone+Ps4 sold more at this point in their lifetime than the Xbox Series+PS5. And no, this is not just because the Xbox Series flopped and shitted, because the PS5 is lagging behind the PS4's trajectory by a few millions now and this is WITH no competition+GTA6. Also, entertainment is its own biggest competitor and there are a LOT of alternative ways to get entertainment now that aren't consoles.
>>749130957>Why scalpers be scalping?>Why this jungle so greenThey're not sold out. They're just being sold by swarthy niggers now. Every fucking marketplace including amazon is full of PS5 pros for sale.
>>749128405madden 2k nigga
>>749131006>If you're looking for a PS5 Pro, just wait until after GTA VI has launched. You'll end up seeing a flood of used consoles significantly depress prices.At that point it'll be on NS2/PC. I'll just wait until it's cracked. Game looks boring.
>>749131136>Gamestop are not obligated to buy PS5sThat all depends on the deal with distributers. Sometimes, on the retail side, you don't have a choice. You want to carry PS5s? Well, you sign this dotted line here that say you need to order a minimum of 100k units per quarter at $400/un for the next year, or people can buy their PS5s at Walmart. Skateboard company distributors are notorious for closing skateshops with that shit (and a lot of them ended up collapsing).
>>749131816I really hate how true handhelds were given up on. The Switch can do both, but it just doesn't replace something like the DS line. With hardware advances, they should be able to manufacture tiny, cheap, yet powerful machines that they can have personal device oriented games designed for. Parents not wanting to get kids a game that would require them all to have a console and copy? Well this wouldn't be a problem anymore if they were cheap by simply using mid to lower end hardware (that has gotten extremely capable). A company like Nintendo can still experience team bloat and waste money on all sorts of things. It wouldn't be too much more expensive to simply hire some parallel teams to develop for another console line. Some of the indie games that sell really well are very simple and only last a few hours for most. They don't have to worry about making some huge mainline games for this line. Some of the weirder spin offs and collabs prove they don't care that much about IP brand image that they should be afraid of making some simpler handheld oriented games. It just drives me insane how entertainment companies of all companies seem allergic to venturing beyond a very limited and dying scope. The expansion and growth of this medium and industry has only led to us getting less and less and the companies aren't profiting off of it either.
>>749130319Good sleep. Keep up the shilling. Defend those corps like your life depends on it.
I FUCKED UPDATED
>>749132236Unironically buy a chinkheld. The Thor I bought can play Switch 1 games at full speed and then some, is cheaper than a Switch 1, and is actually pocketable.>but i dont want chink shitKeep waiting for something that will never happen ever again then. The PSP2 coming out next year will be $1200 and as big as any current PC "handheld".
>>749128136Gamestop CEO: "Hmm... 90% of our stores are closed due to how shitty Gamestop is. I've got the perfect idea to save Gamestop forever!"
>>749132403Just stream your PC it makes no sense to buy or make an expensive device that runs worse than your PC
Is this US dollars or Canada dollars?
>>749132403Rumors for PS6 handheld is that it will be very power efficient and thin, due to very advanced and efficient nodes. Probably way less bulky than Steam deck and such.
>>749132236The problem I think, and I'm sure Nintendo feels the same on this, is that making a true handheld you're competing with phones for both price and pocket space. A person is always going to be carrying their phone no questions asked. A person with a 2026 version of a DS is going to have to ask is it worth it to carry this around when I can play some brainrot dumbshit game on my phone if I'm bored?
>>749132236You do know that handhelds are incredibly inefficient to produce, right?Memory and storage is non scaling, clock speeds have to be gutted
>>749132493The Steam Deck is one of the most abrasive handhelds ever designed so that would be a good thing.
>>749132493Yes yes zonygger, the pisssix handheld will be super thin, super powerful and be powered by rainbow dust.Actual delusional retard
>>749132714Sony is better at hardware than Nintendo, by a lot
>>749128136poor poor snoyim so brown so mentally retarded giving goytendo dirt grubs a run for their faggotry
>>749128828I'd guess they are expecting a run on consoles due to GTA VI and don't want to be accused of gouging.
>some fag on resetera posts this image>12 replies calling him retarded/where's the source>gets posted on reddit>gets posted on Twitter>gets posted on Channel 4 Video GamesThe internet is so fucking shit.
>>749128136>people genuinely think the ps6 is coming out at 1000 usd or lessnext gen is going to be the biggest buck breaker of all time
>>749128136>599 US DOLLARs was the good old days
>>749133073I genuinely can't wait for the meltdowns.
>>749133073console fags will be on the ps5 generation until 2040s
>>749132286Point out where I defended a corporation. You can't, but your retarded commie brain assumes everyone who isn't in your cult is a corporate boot licker
>>749133073>>749133159why does it need to sell that many? there will be well over 100m ps5s out in the wild, they dont even need to worry that much, ps6 will bring in high margins, ps5 will be the mass market machine along with the handheld. they already got their massive install base out before the ram crisis
>>749132746Lol. Lmao even.They're so great at it that the piss5 literally melts its own cables (which is why they are shilling that wireless fightstick btw) and is so poorly designed it's liquid metal cooling leaks all over the mojo resulting in an expensive brick
>>749133073I expect a lot of 'you're just a poorfag' arguments.
>>749132236With how retarded prices are getting we 100% are getting an "official" chinkheld from one of these companies eventually. Nintendo seems like the most obvious one to release such a thing, their handheld line has always been their cheap entry point but now all they have is the 500 dollar switch 2 as a "current" platform.
>>749132236>>749132579They'd have to find a niche. Something that's uniquely a 'Nintendo experience' they could sell you.>>749133284I think you'd still run into the problem the other anon mentioned of competing with pocket space. A 99$ Chinkheld with a bunch of indie games and old system emulations might do okay but probably not enough for them to commit fully to the idea.
>>749128136I haven’t turned my PS5 on in over a year.
>>749128136I know gta 6 will sell alot, but how the fuck is it so popular that every store I check has ps5s at this retarded price and only a few left in stock. Those retards at Sony are going to get a very good quarterly report that they do not deserve
>>749133185you literally defaulted to calling him a commie lol
>>749129220Sony threatening to sue them for facilitating piracy through hardware sales.comprimise being made, increasing price of used consoles above new consoles.But realistically this is some dog level behaviour with zero thought put into it other than "MONEY", if there truly were a concern they'd just update the firmware.
>>749130371Nobody was buying a Super Nintendo because they did a cost benefit analysis. Consoles have always been television game boxes and they still are. That is "the whole point of a console".
>>749130571I'm selling my computer next year and buying a space station.
>>749130571I'm selling my space station next year and buying a dyson sphere.
>>749133535next year there won't even be an economy anymore. this is literally the end.
>>749133481>if there truly were a concern they'd just update the firmware.There might be a slim chance they can't in a way that will sufficiently prevent it. Or at least can't do it right this minute.
>>749128352cant they just make a deal that china will take over the worldwhy mutts are so retarded and want burn world with themselves
>>749132746At best, I can see it being roughly the size of an Xbox ROG Ally X, which actually has comparable specs to whatever the Orion's leaked specs was. It doesn't matter how good Sony is at hardware when they still need to worry about thermodynamics.
>GTAV double dipping but now with a $1500 price tag
>>749128494Funny you should say that because the only time I've ever seen goods display this price behaviour is in a command economy, most famously with how the Trabant was more expensive to buy used than brand new.
>>749131426Video games have completely stagnated. There has been barely any difference in the last 3 gens. Just dropping physical media and arguably multitasking.
>>749128136So this is what it feels like to be early. I can't believe I accidentally'd an accomplishment.
>>749131426Consoles haven't had a purpose in a long time now, this really >>749131816. Today you only really have nintendo trying to make their hardware more than just hardware. The best outcome would be these companies focusing more on their software and it being multiplat instead of trying to create their own captive userbase locked into their specific proprietary hardware.But unfortunately that won't be happening for a while, if ever.
>>749128136>we don't want you salvaging old hardwarethis is insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnneeeeeeeeeee
>>749129306You mean activists will stop ruining my favorite franchises? That sounds horrible!
Gamestop sells more than just funkopops and nerdcore clothing...?What is this? 2008?
>>749133852It feels like it was raped by hardware manufacturers wanting to create essentially tech demos (before they moved on to AI which is much more scalable), wannabe Hollywood types (before they either went to Hollywood or got fired for losing money), and gaming journalists who were upset they couldn't get into "real" journalism (fading into irrelevance). These locusts who were just using it for personal gain struck at the same time retarded trannies and fags thought the world was embracing them and went on a blitz long march through every institution and group forcing them to act delusional. This combination absolutely torpedoed the medium. But I guess it is at least socially acceptable to say you play videogames now so we got something out of it.
>>749128136still better than $4000 pc just to play the same games
>>749133480And that's me defending a corporation... How exactly? And I didn't default to that, I specifically called him that because he's spouting commie buzzwords.
The only reason GameStop is still in business is because of pokemon card scalpers. Nobody buys games there anymore.
>>749128772You're aware that's fake and being spread by the author of the book trying to shill her product?
>>749132490Does that say EB Games in the OP?
>>749135083It is actually funnier. A bunch of redditors turned it into a meme stock when it was about to naturally die. This brought the company back with a lot of money. But of course, there was no reason to put this money back into videogames which it already was losing on. So it because primarily a stock trading company focused on using capital to produce capital. Which is really funny because the retarded redditors did what they did thinking they were sticking something to the capitalist system and preserving the heccin childhood brand.
>>749135512>capitalistFuck off commie.
Everythings fine (I got mine)
>>749128136but why
>>749135578You didn't read the post
>>749135147holy cope
>>749128467This. It's wholly to profit from the jailbreak sales.
What's the matter gamer, looking for nice deals? 100% games finished? Mazoku souls are not for sale!>tfw setting limits to the stationhttps://youtu.be/fCEUBx4aj78
>>749130229PS6 will never come out.
>>749128136>$1500 for a USED PS5Just save and pony up for a PC at that point. Parts are fucked, prices are fucked, futureproof yourself the best you can before they disappear from the market entirely
>>749133563Why the fuck would you trade a space station for a vacuum cleaner?
>>749132071I've heard the same stuff about music stores and their deals with Fender. You bring in a certain amount of new guitars and are expected to move a certain amount. Mom and Pop music stores couldn't do it so they only end up selling used stuff or older stock and lose the ability to do specific deals with fender.
>>749130571im selling my dyson sphere and getting a neovagina
>>749130459>corruptionthis isn't corruptionthey're allowed to do this, this is within the rules, this is even encouragedthe part that makes it late stage capitalism is the parts about making smart financial decisions and trying to get the consumer the best possible product have gone out the fucking window
>>749128494this isn't capitalism, this is literally "just print fucking money"
>>749133073They're finally going to price most people out of owning consoles, the things that are sold at a loss in order to sell games and subscriptions. They're so fucked it's unreal. Literally no reason to buy a console anymore when you need a computer to function in society anyway. Might as well just take that $1000+ dollars (controller not included) and combine it with what you would spend on a shitbox laptop and just get a decent PC.
He wants his apology
>>749136050I don't think it'd fetch that much value.
>>749133219>I expect a lot of 'you're just a poorfag' arguments.This is basically the default argument. There isn't even any logic to it, it's just to shame people for not buying the latest thing, apparently to impress internet strangers, like a stupider version of keeping up with the Joneses.
>>749136064capitlaism aside, you realize communism resulted in mass corruption and elitism to the point where it became a running a joke that the USSR pretends to pay people while they pretend to work, right?
>>749133073>people genuinely think the ps6 is coming out at 1000 usd or lessIm more confused WHY people ever thought that. Like, did they think console parts werent made by AMD and Nvidia, that they just fell out of the sky? Were people really stupid enough to think the parts pricing bullshit wouldnt affect consoles at all for some reason, despite this being the only generation to have console price hikes?
>>749136306>american capitalism is reaching critical mass, the cronyism, monopolies, insider trading, lobbying, price gouging, scalping, and federal agencies responsible for tracking and prosecuting all this shit being complicit if not in on it are going to lead to the death of this whole thing>OH, SO YOU'D PREFER COMMUNISM, IS THAT IT?
>>749136439>Spout commie talking points>Why do you think I'm a commie?
>>749129673You miss out on GTA 6 which btw, you retard, can be played on a regular PS5. >Hurr durr who cares just wait You can die tomorrow. Waiting is for cucks.
>>749136439so that's a no.
>>749136504t. fox news enjoyer
>>749136506>You miss out on utter goyslopOh no. Not the nigger simulator!
>"sold out"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHANone of these motherfucking journalists ever post unit sales, wonder why, hmm? It's even funnier when you realize that these tards are bringing up Japan to clickbait when the Pro literally sells less than 1,500 a MONTH there lmao. Selling out means jack shit.
>>749136547>Everyone who calls me out is a right wing foolStill not acting any less like a commie.
>>749135883>Subtle but still there and perfectly printed and rounded pantied assNearly everyday on this site reminds me of why I love the Japanese
I can't wait to see the PS6's price. Imagine 2000 bucks without controllers and PSN premium so games will have less ads.Shit's gonna be so funny.
>>749133637Yeah, we suck so much that millions of people are trying to come here every year, fucking retard. I can't wait for AI to make it possible to auto-filter ESL thirdies.
people are still pretending to care about PS5?
lol
>>749136306The reason capitalism won over Soviet communism is because Soviets used regional monopolies and Western nations encouraged competition. The real lesson was never about communism or capitalism because those two things aren't even on the same spectrum. Communism with competition (China) is out-competing democratic nations that now have fewer companies responsible for more. The lesson was building economies around a handful of monopolies in different industries eventually leads to economic collapse.
>>749130459>>749130319oi vey
>>749128576It's sorta part of itIt's a genuine hardware shortage caused by companies pretty much backordering the next couple years of components that they can produce at prices consumers let alone console manufacturers can't compete withGta6 is also the most hyped game in a while, so people realized that they can hoard the best system to play it on while supply won't be able to keep up
>Gamestop stops receiving shipments of PS5s because Snoy can't acquire enough RAM for them>"Shit, how do we take advantage of this situation without looking like we're evil?">Gamestop notices the growing pile of preowned PS5s they buy from people who are fed up with Concords and Wolvermemes>raise the price of preowned PS5s to "incentivize buying a new one or whatever marketing bs">except woops there are no more new ones>"May we interest you in a pre-owned PS5? It's only $1500 plus tip."
>>749137034you fags could even think of grocery stores. get a fucking grip.
>>749128136How the fuck does it cost more in America than a new one in Aus or even fuckin new zealand
>>749136564Exactly like I said. Keep hating from outside the club. You grew up never being part of anything so it reflects why you're such a jaded fucking loser to this day. I feel sorry for you. Maybe one day they'll invent a time machine so you can go back and not be such a fat fucking ugly stinky loser in highschool so you can experience what it's like to belong. Or better yet, you can kill your faggot parents to make sure you never existed. Stupid fucking useless worthless faggot. Kill yourself IMMEDIATELY.
>>749128136$1500 for no games.
>>749135887Oh, it will. It will just be $1200 with the only games being an enhanced port of GTA 6 and some niggerball games.
seeing all the normgroids rush to buy PS5 Pros for GTA6 only to find out it won't look any better than the base PS5 cause the CPU is the bottleneck and the pro's is barely better makes me kek heartily
>>749128136>buy the ps5 pro>sell it back to them>profitSweet
>>749128136should've bought the dip
>>749137424not just nigball games, but the same nigball games that have been on the same engines and graphical fidelity since like 2017. And they won't be updated for PS6 because they'll still be happily supporting the lowest common denominator of PS4s in third world slums
>>749131426Because there's no point to a console if it doesn't offer a different experience.Switch stays because it's a mobile console and has a unique library.Xbox and PS are literally just worse PCs with less freedom and not enough unique games to care for them.
>>749137508you're forgetting the part where it's gamestop, so they'll offer you like $600, at absolute most, for your new NRFB PS5 PRo
>>749135512The stock thing was entirely to spite some bigwig trying to short the company prices to make big money.
>>749130571You dont need a 5090 retard.
why not buy a PC at that point?i don't get it.
>>749130084Nothing can. It's not out
>>749137636Sony has the ball and gun audience by their balls. Normalfags will normalfagsSony cultist will gladly pay to get fucked by Sony.
>>749135512>A bunch of redditors turned it into a meme stock when it was about to naturally dieyou're vastly, vastly, vastly overestimating the power retailoids have in the markets, anon. Unless these redditors were investing literal billions, they were just riding the coattails of the market makers, and it wasn't news to those institutions that the stock was like the most shorted one out there for a while
>>749137719but u can play all that shit on the computerif you're upgrading your console, just get a PC instead. i actually do not get it. what exclusives do they have?
genuine question: are you guys poor or cheap? what % of your yearly salary is $1500?
>>749133073Normies buy a $2000 iphone every year yet complain when they have to pay $1000 for a machine that lasts a decade.
>>749128494>late stage capitalism working as intendedThis is a thought-terminating cliche.
>>749128494Late stage globalist mixed economy, more like.
>>7491377831500 bucks is a lot of opportunity costYou can invest that You can fund a reasonable vacation That is a months worth of rent in a decent bit of areasAlso this is somethign that has a msrp of like 850 or some shit, it almost doubling is not a good deal
>>749128136test
>>749137762They're buying into the Sony brand and ecosystem. At this rate, having a Playstation will be a luxury and "premium".
>>74913729330fps melty
APOLOGIZE
>>749137490It will look different. PS5 will run it at 640p with upscaling to 1080p and Pro will run it at 720p with upscaling to 4k.
>>749136153selling consoles at loss made sense when exclusives with the latest tech were what made the most moneynow? the only thing sony makes money on are ball and gun slop and phones games like fortnite and roblox through microtransaction fees, a ps6 would do nothing for those
>>749137034Fuck off commie.
>>749138574I despise communism.
>>749137906Feels like there is a conspiracy to make us go outside, start a family, and enjoy life.
>>749138315>annual/monthly paid membership to access your own internetno thanks
>>749138657>Simps for communism>I despise communism
>>749137293>Don't insult my heckin' niggerino simulator!
>>749137293You seem really mad.
>>749138676You say that but lots of that stuff also costs a shitload and has lots of barriers to entryLife is just gay, but you can make it less gay
>>749136751Wdym, I'm confused
>>749139194You can see her butt if you look up her skirt.
>>749128278tendies literally have a toddler’s understanding of basic economics
>>749128352Contracts are a bitch, yes.
>>749128136Nope you will lower the price ain’t nobody gonna buy that they have better alternatives kneel to the customer.
>>749138315Anon when your big holiday release answer to GTA6 is a 1:1 UE5 remake of a N64 game, most people are going to buy the PS5
>>749130109>why yes storing all this inventory is indeed free, after all it's just sitting there!>huh? why would we need this space for anything else?
>>749130319God, you'd hate someone like me who has a nuanced opinion about supporting the free market while also condemning corporatism.Go to bed, kid.
>economy is so fucked we're in troll economics territory>be gamestop employee>buy your own stock of new PS5s>immediately return them all>infinite money glitch until you run out of new PS5s>problem?
>>749128136PS5 Pro can be hacked now.
>>749139856>sony always wins babyThat spite really showed them
>>749139782>you'd hate someone like me who has a nuanced opinion about supporting the free market while also condemning corporatism.No, why would you think that? Because I call someone using commie buzzwords a commie?
>>749139782>Woman dressed like a whore is astonished people think she's a whore.
Is the old version hackable or something?Why is a used version 2-3x more expensive than a new one?
>>749128494>late stage capitalismJudaism, this is not reddit: you can use the actual term.
>>749128494Nah, its jews
>>749128136why are people believing this? specially with errors like>tomorrow, 10/16
>>749129108You're welcome!
>>749136064That hasn't happened at all. Companies have always sold dogshit products and overpriced products. AC units in the 1910s/20s/30s cost several times what a full house + land costed. Great product, life saving even, but few could afford it. Now AC units are a fraction of the cost when adjusted for inflation because HVAC tech got better, more companies were able to produce/install them, and the lowered production costs and competition lowered the price. Simply don't buy the product. That punishes the companies trying to sell it. Why do you think Ubisoft is going bankrupt and Microsoft fired thousands of devs who couldn't make good games?
>>749130031A properly tuned 5800X system is going to easily be 50-60% faster than a PS5/ProThe PS5 CPU is effectively a 3700 non X clock locked to 3.5Ghz, 3.85 on the Pro.But it has two cores (and three threads) OS reserved. So for the games it's a 3600.5800X properly V/F tuned is going to maintain 4.7-4.8Ghz in all-thread, heavy games. Zen3 is 12% faster per clock than Zen2. 2 actual cores more is another possible 15-20% (actual game performance).3.5*1.12*1.17*(4.75/3.5) = PS5 CPU would need to be 6.2Ghz to effectively be the same as a 5800X, realistically. Raw stats alone put it more like 6.8(ps5 pro's 3.85ghz)-7.2Ghz(ps5's 3.5ghz)The only thing other people are getting wrong is the 58003D, it's only functionally faster in games that are already high FPS. Cyberpunk at 1080p RT Ultra isn't going to see some 30% boost. maybe 3-5%.
>>749129108No one voted for AI>Tariffs did thisTariffs are between 10 and 50% depending on the country, not 300%. AI blowing up caused the hardware sector to experience a supply shock the likes the world has never seen since the oil supply shock of the 1970s.
>>749130459https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy
America? What the fuck?https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/ps5-playstation-5-pro-console$1399 AUD Brand new.Low was $900 AUD or so.
>>749128136gamestop is a meme stonk for a reason
I'm on ebay right now and seeing a thousand US listings for PS5 digital editions that are $500 or cheaper, shipping included.Gamestop are being retards.
>>749137789They pay for the phone in installments through their phone contract.
>>749128494*late state jusdaism
>>749129108Correct, tranny.
>>749140524People absolutely did vote for AI if you voted for Trump you voted for completely unregulated AI and no social safety nets at all to help with the inevitable job displacement. Good luck.
>>749140761>Rightoids discover capitalism after voting for it>Blame the Jews for their own decisions Like clockwork
>>749133073the industry is moving to cloud gaming with adsthere wont be a new console generation
>>749132613which is why phones are pretty much the most common computer around people do things withineffecient to produce my ass, we're living in the era of handheld megaproduction you just want to treat phones as something different because you're dumb
why is this intentional
>>749128136Gamestop CEO needs the money because he wants to buy ebay.It's a meme company.
>>749128352I get that you are quoting some random fags, but you'd have to be retarded to think that >we are currently in a hardware oversupply.
Oh no, the commies are fighting the commies again
>>749130571>pc mustard fag trying to downplay the fact that a PC costs billions 10k? give me a break
>>749130092That's neither the room, face or skull shape of a rich person.
>>749140857Cool it with the anti-semitism!
>>749128534anyone who has ever bought a niggerstation is three whole standard deviations too low to be able to operate a computer
>>749136306>mass corruption and elitismHow is that different from the obscene levels of wealth inequality we're witnessing and the panama paper leaks showing the ultra rich cheating the system?
>>749129321no it isn't, you lying dipshit
>>749138657>>749138847>no argument
>>749128136I'm glad Nintendo is absolutely DOMINATING this generation
>>749128136What currency is this
>>749132236Playdate exists.
>>749141332Mistagged. Meant to tag the first and second comment of the retard going 'hurr fuck off'.
>>749141332There's no point arguing with commies.
>>749128352Used and new cost the store different amounts. The margin on the new consoles is narrower so it's more important to sell them to recoup the loss of buying them from Sony. If I have a bunch of cars I bought for $1000 that I sell for $1100, and a bunch if cars I bought for $500 that I sell for $600, which do you think I want to sell out of first?
>>749141453>no argumentThat anon explicitly declared he despises communism. You just doubled down on your assumption without addressing what he said.
>>749128467lmao that makes sense
>>749141534>The communist lied.Yeah. That's what they do.
>>749141668Retard
>>749128494>Capitalism>Social policies and mixed economy everywhere lmao
>>749141747>Commie calling anyone retardedPeak irony
>>749141780I've been found. Darn it. Me and my communist bros have been gangstalking you across the internet but nothing gets past you.
>>749141916>Projection
>>749128467But no telling what firmware theyre on
>>749128467They could get their wageslaves to update it if it was that much of a concern.Besides shit they got in boxes will be way behind in firmware updates too, probably traded in shit is higher firmware than the new ones.This makes no sense as a response to CFW, at least not this early because new stock is probably lower firmware than played consoles.
>>749131816>You didn't have PC compatible joypads, at best you had joysticksnigger you're not only retarded but you clearly weren't alive in the 90s when gamepads had already existed for years, logitech has been making the f310 line for well over 20 if not 25 years now, never post again
Will a PS6 coming out for $1200 dollars feel the same as a PS3 coming out for $599 in 2006?
>>749142749The PS3 was packed with features, some would argue unnecessary and overkill for the time. Looking back on it the price was somewhat justifiedThe PS6 will ship with 1 (uno) USB port and maybe optical if you're lucky, they will save every single penny they can and it will still cost 1500 buccks
GTA 6 will be playable in few months on PC, anyways.
>>749128302>>749128215>>749128278If these 79 iq monkeys had a time traveller give them a drive with 100 BTC in 2010 and tell them it's gonna hit 100k if they just wait, they'd sell the drive for crack money immediately.
>>749128352scalpers striking again i guess?
>>749142749No, because the price by then (late 2027 or early 2028) will be """normal""" so the price won't be as much of a shock.
>>749128136TOTAL LIBERAL OWNAGETHANK YOU TRUMP
>>749128136>boughted new PS5 from gameslop>playeded with it>solded it back to gameslop with profit because it is now played = more valuable>repeat until billionairegg fucking ez
>>749142953if the jailbreak trend continues it might be playable in weeks, or even days
>>749128494>capitalismBecome an hero, rarted commie faggot.
>>749135147Just like how the guy that discovered COVID-19 was just spreading lies, so the CCP just HAD to arrest him, right?
>>749130092what the fuck do you buy in this game for $32k?
>>749128494This triggered the hasbara lurkers
>>749139856got the last pro at my GameStop, 13.60, feel like I won the lottery
>>749128136>1 month before GTACan you be less obvious
>>749143634First gacha? You buy boxes with goodies inside. On top of that sport gacha games are far more predatory than any Japanese/Chinese gacha game about cute girls.
>>749128136>we got another PS2 situationoh no
>>749128136Are niggers really that retarded about GTA 6? The lack of impulse control that comes with an IQ of 70 could explain it but it's still surprising.
>>749128494What would you prefer? Socialism?I'll buy this with my free 5000 dollar government trump bux.
>>749143862>sport gachaWh-What!?!? Hahahaha fuck me how is that a thing? Imagine a fucking Gran Turismo gacha where you have to roll for cars lmao
>>749128136>got PS5 Pro years ago for $200~ after employee discount and points $800 trade-in is great but unironically I don't play modern games so the credit would be a waste
>>749142617>They could get their wageslaves to update it if it was that much of a concern.Are you retarded? Why would they make them less valuable?
>>749128136Is this a joke?I don't keep up with the console news any more but $1400 is just unimaginable for a console.
>>749143862>>749144354Oh my God it's so much worse. >Pulling for a 99-overall "Galaxy Opal" LeBron JamesSad>Stat inflation, where a player can get a new card with better stats every monthPower creep lol>Aquired players need "contracts" or fitness items to be playableFucking resource dailies lmao>Duplicate players shitting up your "Squad Building Challenges" or setsJesus Christ. This is literally gayer that homosexual anal sex. They're laughing at paypiggies pulling for cute waifus, who AT LEAST get to keep said waifus for the multi-year lifespan of their game... And, you know, look at attractive things.Meanwhile they themselves roll for the chance to gaze upon pic-fucking-related - who will disappear once the servers are closed to force players into the 2026 and '27 season rosters... Which is happening in a few weeks. >America is centered around...I truly believe it now lmao.
>>749128576No it's just jews.Somewhere, a circle of jews are fucking shit up for everybody.
>1500 dollarsHave i been living in a cave or something?Isn't a video game console supposed to be like 400-500 dollars?
>>749128494>Government destroys the economy via insane policies>Blame the free market
>>749128494Why did this post trigger people so hard?
>>749137293I fucking love shillmelties.You guys have this "fuck you, buy it" type of attitude and it never fucking works. It's not the 2000s anymore, you can't just get by with XTREME messaging alone.
>>749128494"late stage capitalism working as intended" will be when nobody buys the overpriced consoles because there's no reason to
>>749144354Don't laugh too hard. They're trialling the idea.
>>749136506oink oink
>>749144893It's really just the unironic goyim and as you can see, other niggas. All the other white guys I work with play Helldivers or other wargames.
>all this just so people can play some unfinished game and end up paying even more for dlc and mtx
>>749140220potato potato
>>749137835Capitalism is a thought terminating cliche. Only capital and its acquisition matters. Everything else is secondary.
>>749140220Same thing, capitalism is applied judaism.
>>749128136You voted for this
>>749136928Those millions of people are exactly why you mutts are so retarded now
I have an unused PS5 08.60 bd version, when is the best time to scalp?
>>749128136The cattle will still buy
>>749128352If supply go up, you just add more people from brown countries for demand to also go up, duh. That's like schlomo 101, goyim.
>>749128352this board is somehow still getting dumber by the day.
>>749130092I mean that just sounds like the average gacha fan as well and they are everywhere.
>>749128494What is late stage capitalism?
>>749128136its over
Sick, yet another twitter thread. I fucking LOVE neo/v/
We used to kill jews, or at least exile them, by this point.
>>749128136So you're saying it's going to cost me even MORE to play my favorite PS5 games like
>>749146962Too late, you let them spread, Im afraid its terminal now. Be more wary in the next cycle
>>749144947I thought a 5090 was supposed to cost $2000 and not $7000
>>749144354>>749144893remember that DSP has to justify spending 40?70k on a Wresting gacha at his hearing for bankruptcy
>>749147173I believe he was in the 100ks by the time he quit (he's now shifted to tcg he doesn't know anything about and has already spent 10-20k in 4 months)
>>749128136But the PS6 is totally going to be less than $1000
>>749130260$1000 is unreasonable for a ps5 because of all the attached hidden costs and lack of features.
>>749147173Has DSP some kind of mental illness or retardation? I am asking that in a serious way.He clearly is a bit "slow". Also that viral clip about Pragmata in which the platform moves and he says that the perspective has changed...
>>749141271you can still buy groceries.
>>749147396I don't think he's mentally ill, he just has an extreme case of only childness that comes with an inflated ego and some actual autism where he is incapable of reading the room but his ego doesn't allow him to admit this so he turns it into him being the smartest guy in the room despite actually being really fucking dumb.
>>749128352DON'T QUESTION IT
>>749147396i believe he's slightly below average IQ, but he's by no means clinically retarded.something in his formative years also fed that "it's never, EVER my fault" mentality.he's also slightly playing up his character. not much, but enough to keep actual retards entertained.and if anything i can only praise his work ethic. the guy found a niche and he's sticking to it. clearly it pays enough if he's not dead yet
With majority of Playstation's projects being failures, can Sony sell PS6 at lost or they'll fuck the paypigs, whales and consumers in the ass in the open?
>>749133480Only communists bitch about 'late stage capitalism'. It doesn't actually exist.
>>749133219modern 4chan, in a bitter twist of irony, somehow managed to end up peer pressuring itself into paying hundreds if not thousands to companies that hate them purely because not doing so is "brown behaviour"
>>749128352Antisemite
>>749147983The PS6 won't even have any physical copies to choose from, and you have to spend an extra 100 bucks just to have a disc drive with the PS5. take a wild guess.
>>749145615The acquisition of capital through violent coercion has existed for all of human history. Abolishing le capitalism isn't going to change this fundamental fact.
>>749147983The PS5 is the to go option for multiplats for those who dont want/cant allow a gaming PC. Sony exclusives are cancerous shit this gen but the reality is that even when they were decent they rarely sold a lot
>>749128494More like late stage democracy as politicians figured out they can bribe voters with their own money, forever increasing the size and scope of government, inflation, and spending while the cattle continue to ask for seconds.
>>749128136Who the fuck buys preowned consoles at fucking gamestop???
Don't buy from gamestop then? Surely burgers have access to external websites like craigslist or whatever you guys were using until now, where someone is clearing their attic or selling their son's old shit for pennies.
>>749128494People will seethe about this post, but literally every single capitalist is telling you that they are actively working to dismantle capitalism and that it is, in fact, in its final stages.
>>749137293holy fucking kwab
>>749129634Is this the EU's latest plan to drum up anti-Russian sentiment?
>>749133480Something something pigeon chess analogy something
>>749149184Yeah we were totally best friends with them, but when they jacked up PS5 prices? Eternal alliance broken.
>>749128136All that for a clunky brick with no games.
>>749128557>ksloppa talking about inhumansThe irony
>>749128136Oh no scalpers will need a real job lmao.
>>749128136We finally reached the point where you can build a more powerful computer for less than the cost of the current console, I dont recall that ever being the case. The only the catch is that the computer costs $1000 more than I would have expected if I told you this in 2016
>>749128136redditbros, gamestop stonks are going up again
>>749144948To retards, capitalism means "anything I don't like" so they call the least capitalist things in the universe capitalism.
