>main character is some sort of demon>also a lesbo>there's also a "lillith" route>and bunch of other demons>no gods or angelsWhy are so many games barely disguised satanism or sometimes even straight-up satanism/anti-Christian (e.g. SMT4A)>but there's also a crucial plotline about saving an unborn childThat one's an outlier in Void Stranger though, and its weird. I mean, cool that it's here, but everything else would point away from a life affirming message.I don't know all the lore though, so maybe some deeper shit explains it.
>>749178468The "demons" are just AIs representing sins, the whole dungeon is styled after Dante's layers of hell.There are no gods or angels because the setting runs on buddhism.
>>749179167>There are no gods or angels because the setting runs on buddhism.That's zero ranger, refusing to get voided is quite literally the opposite of buddhism, and is a requirement to see other routes.
>>749179856It's the same setting and the Lotus Jewel still exists.Void ending is not required at all.
>>749178468>SMT4Ayou mean the game explicitly about fighting YHVH, the jewish god? not beating the "dead jew on a stick" allegations
>>749178468demons and devils are allowed to have character flaws and interesting personalitiesangels and gods are boring unless youre dealing with the polytheistic kind which christcucks wouldnt like either
>>749178468I don't think it's particularly anti-Christian, but rather it's that our flaws as humans are easier to understand and personify than our virtues.An almighty being filled with love for a creation that seems so clearly flawed is actually more unknowable than the average Lovecraftian old god, that's my hypothesis anyway.
>>749178468>caring about the storyThat's not the appeal of Void Stranger.
>>749180694>are allowed to have character flaws and interesting personalities"WE ARE MISUNDERSTOOD AND DINDUNUFFIN" = literally every single fucking time
>>749178468You don't have much going on in your life if this is the biggest thing bothering you right.
>>749180202>Void ending is not required at all.I said "refusing to get voided is a requirement". So taking an anti-buddhist stance is the way to progress the game's story.
>>749180886I have other bigger things, but I don't talk about them on a VIDYA board.
>>749178468brain damage thread, do not interact
>>749180694Please refer to >>749180874Also, if you can't see value in a "paragon of justice and good" type of character, then you might just be mentally raped.>>749180801Atmosphere is?Also if you absolutely love sokobans, you get a tons of levels too. But the story and themes are there, and are presented as you progress so its fair to care about them.>>749180720>An almighty being filled with love for a creation that seems so clearly flawed is actually more unknowable than the average Lovecraftian old godNow that sounds interesting.
>>749181158>he said, while interacting, without even saging
>>749178468>SatanismLmao, kill yourself
>>749178468terrible gamesokoban with no rewind and permadeath so you forced to solve every level in your head first without movingabsolute dogshit
>>749181717>permadeathlol
>>749181717>so you forced to solve every level in your head firstnot a problem with a dual monitor and paintstay mad troon
>>749181717Life has consequences and you don't get an "undo" button for every mistake you make. Sit still, spaz, and plan out your moves.
>>749181717>you forced to solve every level in your head first without movingWhile staring at a later level I got reminded of Layton's "gameplay" of justt h i n k i n gI want to make a game that makes a player "play" like that, I really like that feeling.>no rewind and permadeathThe latter requires the former, but on some levels the lack of an undo was extremely frustrating, especially with those clones that mirror your movements.The difficulty is fucked to be honest, some things are laughable, others are a total bitch, and the wings and and the rest are also unbalanced in that regard.
>Cif helps Grey/Add in the real world>tries to kill Grey/Add in the voidwhy
>>749183512>>749183684you can literally just close the game if you fucked up and then answer "no" when opening the game again to reset the levelif they allow "cheating" why not go all the way? just give the player undo button if they did this shit 3 times because clearly they're gonna continue doing it
>>749178468>Main character some sort of demon >Lilith route >bunch of other demons Motherfucker, this minus the lesbian part is just SMT VV
>>749183994Every time you sin it does lower some stats behind the scenes and it starts eating away your locusts too if you keep save scumming by quitting before death every timeT. I did that to clear the whole game because I can't plan more than two moves ahead and wanted to just bash my head against the puzzles until I got them.Regardless the game's great and makes use of itself narratively as a game way better than most video games. It's ludokino
>>749178468Most people think Angels, the Heaven and be "The good guys" are boring. You see lots of demon protagonists because they are "cool".See why a popular animation is about singing Demons in a hotel
>>749178468it's finnish
I unlocked the second character and I'm not having fun. As a matter of fact I didn't have fun since that golem section. Sorry bros but I got filtered.
>>749189567How many secrets did you find?
satanism is at least more interesting than a forever perfect heaven and generic angels, and if you got biblically accurate angels then we're in a different mess altogether
>>749180694But demons and devils were angels
>>749189647>stone talking>couple of shortcuts >fucking with the UI gets you into the void zone with some penguin nigger>sword >three touches and a couple of seconds>each zone is represent by an emblem belonging to a certain character>some mechanical looking secret room with some unknown code I can't solve>wings
>>749189963Okay yeah, if you are not having fun after all of that then you can drop it.Had to check if you were doing the second character playthrough with 0 items.
>>749189963If you have those three items the hard mode is as doable as it's gonna be. I got there without anything and got filtered for a year but then came back with everything and it was fine for me. The sokoban would get harder by one order of magnitude at least before you'd get to the main true ending. You could just start abusing alt+F4ing and cheat death that way if you wanna actually work on the puzzles more rather than thinking them through but otherwise yeah you can stop there
>>749190249>alt+F4ing and cheat death that way if you wanna actually work on the puzzles morehuh?Why would you do that when you have practically infiite lives?
>>749190353Depending on what you're doing you won't but that's what I did for the bits where it wanted me to just brain process through the puzzles without getting my hands on them. I can't do puzzles that way so I just brute forced them and cheated like that
>>749178468How about a series that shits on Eastern religions and just outright says reincarnation would be the worst hell imaginable to anyone with a working brain?
>>749179167I wish Mandalore would do a video on this game, I can't be added to play it anymore and I'd like to know what it's actually about.
alright all these threads have convinced me. I'll replay void stranger from zero, fuck the EX level I got stuck on last year I alraedy forgot what I was supposed to be doing in the first place. wish me luck
>>749178468SMIVA was written by a different team from the past SMT games and completely bungles the metaplot that God is ultimately a benevolent being who values individual choice above everything else, including whether or not to accept Him.The Axiom is not God, but another high-ranking avatar like Canopus from DS2.
>>749179856>that's zero ranger
This level of blatant christcuckery used to get you laughed at not so long ago. Sad how 4chan demographics have changed.>>749195718Please be bait.
>>749196735I meant arsed instead of addedMandalore is comfy fuck off, I'm not playing this shitass game another 20 hours and I don't want to watch a lore video from some tranny zoomer
>>749196973you are genuinely subhumanI spit on you
>>749196431here's the better version of this picture
>>749178468I think its more complicated that she is a demon. It was more like a twist on God, and even then it could have been more of a high level demon lord and God still exists in that world. I don't think it was satanic in nature, only using demons (who are the clearly the bad guys by the way, even if some are less bad than others) to tell the story. It is no different than someone making a version of the devil for their game. And if you think about it, you can find themes of Christianity within the game, especially the idea of sacrifice, grace, valuing life, and a somewhat display of love that God has for us via creating demona to interact with humans and to also wanting to have a daughter of their own. It obviously doesn't compare to Christianity's Jesus and God's love, but it has similar themes.Fantastic game, one of my favorites.
>>749197417You're right, on multiple levels.
>>749190113NTA but I played blind, never solved any of the sigils and played the first two characters through with no items voided then unvoided.>damn, this game is hard>everyone in the thread must be a super genius
