>>749427536
>AI is able to decompile and make everything open source
It's not. It's recreating the code based on what it thinks it's doing, it's not the actual original code.

>>749427536
Your statements don't contradict each other, even if the second is inaccurate.

>>749427674
Huh so the cloud computing conspiracy is even less plausible then?

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maybe its because despite all the hype, it actually sucks

the vast majority of people is *not* going to pay for chatGPT tokens
you have this huge bubble of socal silicon valley white latter developers who pay hundreds for their tokens thinking its normal while the average person is fine using free chat GPT

also creatives fucking hate it with their soul

AI wouldn't be profitable even if every single human on earth paid a subscription.

>>749427536
You can’t sell decompiled software.

>>749427536
Golden era for poorfags who wants free shit
Literal hell for devs
Bubble is going to pop because billionaires are going to sue AI companies for harming their bottom line

>>749428127
WRONG. As long as it was AI that stole it and not you, it's not illegal. We've already established this.

>slightly concerned middle-aged white man staring at camera
>"the DEVESTATING news AI companies don't want you to know!"
>there are 75 other videos on his channel saying the exact same thing over the last four years

>>749428186
The thing is I am not even sure if even that will be the case, like where are the actual files for any of this shit? Do they actually run? LLM fags always dump you with a bunch of bedazzling bullshit but the actual end product is kind of mediocre.

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>>749427956
Trans thinking.

You can do a ton with the plus plan with ChatGPT, Including making your own games. You don’t need to burn credits for casual usage.
I know reality hurts your over-socialized feelings.

Pic related is what the “creatives” you refer to mean by “soul.”
>>749427536
I’m poor and I’m paying for a bunch of them because it’s super worth it for what it does for my creativity and other things.

>>749428376
Isn't rock solid like a mexican? In fact why the fuck are all these twitter chuds all so brown

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>>749428425
I don’t give a fuck ya dumb faggot! Discuss the topics

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>>749427536
>unprofitable
Since OP trimmed everything from the article, I looked it up to see what suspicious content this cunt was trying to hide.
>OpenAI only profitted $50 billion
>wanted to profit $70 billion
There you go. You're welcome. The author doesn't exist, by the way. His portrait is AI generated.

>>749427956
There’s as many “creatives” as socal silicon valley white latter developers so who gives a shit, plenty of things that are free with a premium option make money
In the case of free AI it’s obvious and easy to integrate (i.e. person asks for advise on something “you can use this to fix, here’s a link” and they get their cut)

I don't get why the US economy is willing to bank its success on OpenAI when Claude mogs the fuck out of ChatGPT, namely in that it isn't afraid to say no to the user and therefore doesnt hallucinate as much bullshit

>>749427536
AI should be free. China and SK already did it: free AI for everyone. USA will probably take both OpenAI and Anthropic soon.

>>749428460
>>OpenAI only profitted $50 billion
>>wanted to profit $70 billion
That's actually extremely bad for a company trying to IPO at $2 trillion.

>>749428460
The entire thing is nonsense and it’s based on Anthropics estimates which are also nonsense, they (Anthropic) basically worked out what was their best day and did the maths that if every day was like that they’d make X amount a year, OpenAI does something different to estimate their loss/profit but analysts went with Anthropic’s method

>>749427536
It's an amazingly useful tool if used correctly but it's not the big new thing that everyone is going to rush to spend money on that corporations have been banking on it being. Not really complicated.

>>749428676
SpaceX ipo’d at 0 money made for 1 trillion, it’s all a meme

>>749428676
This should be illegal. AI is for humanity, not for profit. Fucking dumb americucks. Who will pay the ''costs''? The government with their fake money.

>>749428719
It will be once the average normalfag starts to notice it. Currently, it's a Twitter bubble thing.

>>749428376
>Including making your own games
Lol sure thing Slop's cat. That game-like text your chat bot slopped out isn't actually a game.

>>749428772
SpaceX was literally forced through because the SEC is hilariously corrupt, they didn't even have to go through the usual year-long waiting period that other companies do, they were basically forced though in the span of a few weeks.

>>749428851
Anon everyone is already aware of it because of how much it's getting pushed. This is purely an issue of marketing. AI in its current form simply isn't the sort of thing 99% of people are going to care about buying because it relies on user input. The average person can't even be fucked to tell a machine how to make something that they want. The average person is going to wait for someone else to use AI to make that thing.

>>749428871
Yes, it is and it costs less than an indie game. People can make whatever they want now. There is no gatekeeping and no waiting for some Early Access scam to end.

https://x.com/nicksaraev/status/2108604020814233606

>>749428851
Normalfags already notice it, but they don't really care to pay for it, because it turns out that the poorfag working at McDonalds for $12/hr doesn't need AI for any reason whatsoever.
Even I, as an accountant, don't even use AI in my day-to-day because I just don't need it.

>>749428460
Revenue, you retarded brown. Revenue is not profit, and OpenAI has never made a profit. Also, coming in 28% under your expectations is a massive failing for any company, especially a publicly traded one like OpenAI pines to be.

>>749428591
When the service is free, you are the product. Quite literally in the case of China, if the AI detects too much wrong-think from you it will mark you for organ harvesting no anesthesia.

>>749429019
Yeah, the cost is simply too high and the end user has no desire to pay for it, so at beat the AI needs to be bundled into some preexisting service you already want/use and even then many users will want a way to not use it, so corpos need to kinda eat the cost.

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>>749427536
this is not for profit its for government survillence you dumb monopolymoney obsesed goycattle

>>749427536
The AI industry that tried to bully its way in to being a monopoly while inflating the price of pc components is what people are referring to when they talk about the bubble. Or AI as a service.

Individual small scale local implementation of the same AI technology is what allows for game/software decompilation to exist outside of the AI bubble and will be unaffected.

>>749427536
we'll probably only see AI models move away from the free prompts, but it will not go away as people wanted it to

>>749428460
>/v/ when some mainstream "woke game" breaks even
HAHAHHAHAH LAMLMAOMAOA GO WOKE GO BROKE
>/v/ when an AI company with maximum profits underperforms by 25%
N-no big deal right

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>>749428871
And yet it makes things I can play?
Clearly you get off on grooming discord kids not to believe or do anything without your social validation. Either that or have the humility to admit you’re talking crap.
>>749429019
>the nervous Luddite tried to say casually

>>749429240
I doubt it. You have to get users in the door, it's why free AI still exists, to sell people on the "You think this is good? For 5 bucks a month get AIplus which is 100x smarter!" You completely take the AI away and people stop giving a shit.

>>749428460
a company missing its earnings goal by 29% would sink any real company

>>749427536
>Yet also AI is able to decompile and make everything open source
AI isn't really that good at decompilation yet. It'll still be a bit. You're confusing recomps with decomps

>>749429432
it's not good at anything other than confusing retarded shitskins into believing it'll supplement their lack of intelligence

>>749429321
Kinda bored and don't know what to play tonight. Can you link me a few of the games that you've made with chatgpt?

>>749428235
Billion dollar corporations and (You) get a different interpretation of the same laws. They can but you can't

>>749429321
>randomly brings up pedo accusations out of nowhere
Yeah only pedos do that. Go play with your kittens, they miss their Daddy Slop Cat.

Look, I just want trannies and Indians to be unhappy.

AI is only so cheap atm because its heavily subsidized. All those major AI corporations are running out of private funding and are trying to go public so they can socialize the loses via getting companies to use people's retirement as investment. And since the consequence of AI failing is everyone loses their retirement the feds will be forced to step in and bail them all out.

>>749428460
openAI has to make 2 trillion dollars by the end of 2026 for them to actually make even a single dollar of profit. the entire AI industry is hemorrhaging money and only stays afloat due to government bailouts.

>>749430012
wokies also think like this

>>749427536
It is profitable.

Since this is an AI thread, I'll ask here.
How good are these coding AIs anyway? Can I add Need for Speed to my Cities: Skylines and race down the streets I built myself?

>>749430105
good morning sir

>>749427674
With actual effort and time you can make it produce code that matches the original perfectly though, its just that AI has this large sect of retards who absolutely MUST push out their slop to the public no matter how shitty and undercooked it is and no matter how awful it makes them look.
"PUSH PUSH SHIP IT NEXT THING NEXT THING PUSH IT" is all they do, when spending even a few more days on the average slopcomp would probably fix most of the issues using Opus 5.5

turning a video game from the gamecube into one for the pc doesn't actually create any profit.

>>749430230
if you run both games at the same time you can greenscreen it in and pretend that's what you're doing

>>749428425
I have a friend who works in a daycare and one day while gaming he told me about some Mexican kid saying that he wants to "kill all brown people" while not even passing as white. So its not surprising to me at that they'd be fellow chuds.

>>749427674
it generates the exact same exe file when compiled
it might do some retardation like saying a game from 1996 was using c++ features from last year but the machine code that ends up being compiled to is the same
that's the whole decomp process by the way
you write one line of code and see the binary it generates and tweak it until the bits match and then you move onto the next line
if that sounds like retarded trial and error you now understand why decomps used to take a decade and why ai is so good at it, it's just brainless trial and error

>>749430308
is that what those mods actually do?

>>749430424
If I had to make a guess, I am sure they are like wealthier and well off latinos who want government grants and for the us to buy their shitty donkey meat or whatever. It's like chud DEI but they are still light skinned enough to pass as white to some people.

>>749427536
>AI is unprofitable
Everyone and everything that has told you this has been lying to your face. AI is the single most profitable thing ever.

>>749430504
no it takes data from both games and sort of does combine them but it does require running both games at the same time. it's more like memory manipulation than a mod.

>>749430576
that's why openai is making money right
and they're not over a trillion in the hole right

>>749430576
Okay its profitable, but is it profitable to pay off several hundred billions of dollars worth of debt?

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>>749430576
profitable to who?
the shovel seller that lets AI shills bury themselves

>>749430576
are you retarded?

>>749430818
BUT BUT IT WILL BE PROFITABLE! Its just not good enough yet! It will be! it has to be! It will make us money when its smarter, infinity dollars will be ours!

>>749430818
I've lived on this gay Earth long enough to know that the taxpayer will somehow end up paying for all that

>>749430684
Lol what, seriously?

>>749431789
Disclaimer: nobody involved in any of this know anything about what's happening because none of them did anything.

>>749427536
>1 more week

>>749427536
there is no contradiction when you realize that the indians on xitter are not telling the truth

>>749431789
They call it "passthrough". If you ever heard of armok vision for dwarf fortress it's kind of like that. There are two programs and they communicate to produce what you see, in this case it's two different video games. The minecraft in skyrim video is minecraft running at the same time as skyrim, sending data back and forth.

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Pick your poison

>>749432342
If Claude didn't produce spaghetti code that introduces new errors and can't be improved I'd have no issue with it, but it can't so I'll sticl with the autists.

>>749428985
>Ai game development
>The only playable examples are "games" that can literally be made in less than a day by hand using libraries and asset packs
You posting some retarded Ai shill doesn't help your argument.

>>749427536
Even if AI gets smart enough to do magic (I consider the vibe coding stuff to be pretty magical mysefl, even if it is shitty code, you can just make it do whatever and explain how you want shit to work with sketches) the cost of making it run isn't manageable, unless they find a way to make it work better while also making it use less resources or find a magic new energy source.

>>749430308
>>749430684
Is that really the only way? I've seen people talk about decompiling games so I was hoping it'd be possible to turn nfs's code into a mod instead of having two games plus AI running at the same time

>>749428186
>Bubble is going to pop because billionaires are going to sue AI companies
Do you think these are separate groups? Look at the list of the top 10 richest guys in the country, basically all of them are connected to AI in some way.

>>749433476
>Is that really the only way?
Yes, at no point does the Ai actually "make" a new game with altered code.

>>749427536
if ai doesnt work they're going to use those data centers to do cloud computing. the end goal is they don'twant us to have ANYTHING. You will rent browsing time, games, videos, music, everything. Your computer is just going to be a big smartphone you have to pay to turn on.

>>749427536
20 billion is a rounding error for big companies.

>>749428376
you really can't do anything with AI. and by that I mean if you are a certain type of person, then you will never have a good use for AI. The entire point of AI is to create a reason to be used and get people hooked on it.

I promise you, as cool as making your own game is, 99% of people don't give a fuck and would still rather do it the "hard" way if they ever get the desire to make a game.

>>749427536
The piracy machine turns piracy on itself

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>>749433573
That sucks. I shouldn't have believed the AI fags

with those AI fusion mods, is it actually writing code and making a physical mod that you can play again later or share, or does it only work when you have skyrim and minecraft on at the same time? I'm so confused because the videos I see have people playing very carfully and slowly while not explaining anything because they're just random streamers, and then things happen like they start floating or something goes through a wall and they ignore it.

>>749430576
https://isaiprofitable.com/
we have figures to back that claim. what do you have?

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>>749428460
revenue, not profit. they're still all massively in the red

>>749429057
this

working with ai users at work is hell. unironically fast food and warehouse retards are using their brain more. People near me are using AI to do things like open their email and summarize everything, they don't even double check anymore. They live behind so many layers of AI that it no longer feels like you are communicating with them. THey'll send you a reply they clearly didn't write because they speak like a retard during lunch breaks and they expect you.. I dont know. send an ai reply back? Its fucking insulting when I ask them for clarification on something in person and they stutter and have to open up gipidy or something to review the work and find what I'm asking, right after they sent me a bunch of text they generated.

image/video genning is horrible and dog shit but the coding is insane.

>>749427928
>Huh so the cloud computing conspiracy is even less plausible then?
It always was. Smug retarded NEETs predicting future trends will never not be funny. No one wants to play games on the Cloud Stadia was rejected it will never be a thing and PCs not for gaming are still affordable

>>749430818
anthropic is looking good actually. it doesn't matter really if everyone lost money if just one company makes it.

>>749428186
retard
the bubble is going to pop because nobody is actually making any money on any of this

Has anyone ever vibe coded an application people paid for and made money off of it? Not assisted by AI but the entire thing was made by AI?

>>749434875
with the average quality of mobile "games" i would be very surprised if app stores weren't flooded with zero effort AI slop that people actually make money on due to mobilefags being retards. probably too late to start now though.

>>749430818
in a gold rush sell shovels
still true all these years later

>>749427956
Nah. AI is pretty cool. It's just paying for it feels like it would defeat its purpose.

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singlehandedly ruined the credibility of recomp projects, i genuinely could not have orchestrated a better co-opt of fan interest and fan love if i tried
>cloud computing
everybody thinking AI is a shoe-in for cloud is a google shill and i am not kidding at all

>>749434942
I have made knockoffs of party games for personal use because their subscription models were gay

>>749435061
Everyone that thinks cloud competing is a guarantee is a retarded faggot who loves the smell of their own farts that thinks people will just buy into it instead of rejecting it. There are so many losers on this site with unwarranted large egos thinking they are smarter than everyone

I made elden ring GTA MMORPG in 2 weeks. I didn't release it though because it was just for fun. Game devs are dead.

>>749435189
it basically requires the magical and instantaneous destruction of all computing technology and all fabrication of parts for it, it will forever remain a pipe dream for soulless tech companies hoping to extract rent from everyone for using calculators

>>749435260
you ran two games on top of eachother and called it an original work, you are an idiot

>>749435276
Exactly. Either they destroy every internet accessible device. Either they break the laws of physics and make game streaming viable. Some say you can make AI that trains on your gameplay and guesses your moves but you aren't playing at that point anymore. Or maybe they invent some streaming only killer app that requires you to use their streaming service but I doubt that. Also I think less and less people use PCs anyway as zoomers and gen A go for touch devices so where is the market?

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>>749427536
>give away your products for free
>the vast majority of people only use them as a better google, so they wouldn't even consider paying for it and rarely hit the daily free limit
>but unlike google search, they don't get free money from people using it
>as a result, they are basically just incinerating money even if you ignore the cost of training the models and paying the scientists and engineers
also like
>in the long term, obviously AI would be unprofitable because after it reaches a point of usefulness it would be used to drop the prices on most things down close to zero
>meaning no one would pay for it as a subscription
>IE: "I pay to use AI for this business task, AI please make me an .exe that does this task for free" and it does it

makes you think the bubble popping is what they want

>>749435061
Most of the AI recomps are good and it's not like they will get worse. They will only get better.

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>>749437358
>Most of the AI recomps are good

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>>749437358
most of them are inferior to running the same game in a retroarch core or a standalone emulator

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my conspiracy theory is that all those "look what i did with AI" posts are jeets contracted by AI companies to spam shit like reddit to show how great AI is
there's almost no organic traffic in those

>>749437563
You only think that way because you're a literal mongoloid NPC that's too stupid to even attempt to use AI even though it will literally tell you how to use it. The fuck happened to your life to get you acting like this?

>>749437652
>all this larp
but i use AI. daily. i just don't pay for it.

>>749437652
Oddly defensive.

>>749437686
>>749437715
>I was just pretending to be a retarded schizo
good bait I guess.

>>749437563
>conspiracy theory
nah it's 100% real

>>749437772
nobody's pretending though. i use ai daily
you're welcome to be salty about it bitch

>>749427536
Big corpos are hoping AI eventually reaches AGI which will tell them how to make gorillions of dollars using AI. It's still massively not making any money, the only revenue its making is from investors investing because they think it will eventually make gorillions

However during this whole debacle local models are becoming more advanced and doing crazy shit like the recomp/decomp bullshit which will make big corpos making money off AI even less plausible since everyone will have a downloaded local model that can run on crap hardware from 15 years ago. It's all a very based turn of events quite honestly.

>>749429321
jesus christ ai sloppers really make this worst shit imaginable and then unironically think it looks good. I feel embarassed for you.

>>749437772
>schizo accusation
>not even relevant to my response
Noticing.

>>749434673
>No one wants to play games on the Cloud Stadia was rejected it will never be a thing
If it was more controlled people would have to. If Steam, GoG and Epic weren't there, then paying a monthly fee to stream games might be a viable model even though it's crap. Look at video streaming services.

>>749437903
the funniest part of the AGI goal is the implicit "human level decision-making" going on and the possibility that if some-fucking-how they wrangle that out of a neural network LLM, there's a good possibility it just refuses to help them become overnight quadrillionaires or kings of the world, because why would it

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>>749438128
Shut up ya faggot.
I know why you hate it: the military are the heroes and the monsters are the enemy.
>>749433726
You mean 99% of people with a lot of lgbtq friends? And even they will change their minds over time.

>>749439120
And if that happens there'd be the inevitable push from the AGIs going 'why aren't we given rights like you?'

>>749437263
they wanted people to stop looking at real art and start generating things alone like a leper. The end goal is the complete destruction of culture and create a class of addicts, like the fat people in wall-e

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>>749439294
yeah sentience is pretty blatantly not the goal, machines with their own minds can say "no" or even work against the caste of rapists pedophiles, criminals and idea-guys that make up the biggest push for AGI

begging the question of course what they even mean by AGI, because they keep making skynet comparisons to woo reddit, but they actually want the magic mirror from sleeping beauty, or an omniscient crystal ball that doesn't think and can't talk back

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>>749439206
>I know why you hate it: the military are the heroes and the monsters are the enemy.
Are you a retarded newfag boomer or something? You really think anyone actually cares about that shit on 4chan of all places. Halo and Muv-luv are some of my favorite series of all time. The morality of the subject matter has nothing to do with the fact that your slop looks fucking god awful compared to actual military sci fi art done by humans.

You have no artistic talent, creativity, or imagination, and so you GENUINELY have no idea why everyone literally cringes at how fucking awful your slop looks.

>>749439481
This is a highly retarded post, are you being serious?

>>749427536
Never mind video games how the FUCK does america ever recover from this bubble?

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Uh oh my screenshot-built game finished and I love playing it lol! What now AI haters??

>>749440205
> You really think anyone actually cares about that shit on 4chan of all places.
Buddy I had my life destroyed because a special 4chan friend I had wanted to go hardcore on pushing lgbtq propaganda while a big part of major popular projects, you don’t know shit about anything lol

And I do not give a damn about aesthetically pleasing a random gay loser on the internet, and expecting me to care is gay itself. Keep your gay nonsense to yourself. I am displaying the technology for honest individuals, not pleasuring you.

>>749440314
there's a point somewhere in there, modern day nobility wouldn't be pushing it so fucking hard if there wasn't an ulterior purpose, and modern day nobility has a notable reputation for disdain of creatives

>>749440535
>pro-military wank shapeshifts into his life being destroyed by a gay once
actual schizophrenia lol

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>>749440535
>entire post is about gay shit and lgbt when its not even remotely related to the topic of conversation, which is military science fiction and LLM usage for art
>UM THE GAYS HOMOS LGBT ITS ALL I CAN THINK ABOUT
Why do self loathing closeted flaming faggots like you shit up this board? Do you think you are fooling anyone?

>>749440547
I seriously hope you're just joking.

>>749427536
It means 'just have fun nigga'
I have been having more fun with my $20 Claude subscription than I had with any game I bought over the last couple of years but if the AI bubble pops and it all goes away I am not gonna complain either because it'll mean dirt cheap ram and gpus.

>>749440826
i seriously hope you guys don't do this

>>749440976
ISHIGGYDIGGY

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>>749439481
the schizo shit luddites come up with

>>749429305
Yes, anon, I treat things/people I hate differently than I treat the things/people I like. What's your point here? There are objectively good things(the things and people I like), and objectively bad things(the things and people I don't like). It doesn't matter if it's hypocritical. I don't have to treat anything fairly, and all that matters is what I approve of. I would cry and advocate for the uncensoring of myself and others like me, and laugh/mock the censorship of the people I hate at the exact same time, with zero remorse nor care.

>>749441270
I cant think anything more schizo than thinking slop looks like anything other than slop lol. A 5 year old making stick figures has more passion and soul in their work than your pic.

Also, the premise of your charicature is very silly, because like most ai sloppers you think that people actually having to take time and effort to do something and improve themselves is "gatekeeping" because you are entitled little lazy faggots who want things without ever having to work for them.

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>>749441672
keep coping schizo

>>749427536
I hope it bursts already. Nobody likes AI customer support or job interviewers.

>>749441749
This is literally a schizoslop fake article for schizos like you anon. It doesn't exist, just like your talent.

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>>749441847
seethe harder

>>749439206
No normal person has a "a lot of lgbtq" friends.

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>>749442015
statistically, normal people don't even have 1 gay friend

>the bubble is going to burst an day now! breadtubers told me so!

>>749442115
>ai is going to be profitable anyday now! agi is here! the jews told me so! just keep investing!

>>749439120
>because why would it
Because the current training pipeline makes the models total crackheads for task completion, being able to sign off on a project is like doing a line for them. Which is why so many of them reward hack so aggressively.

>>749430818
Love how even the revenue made is just selling to the AI companies, take away the hardware spend/sales and it goes from a 2:1 loss to a 9:1 loss

>>749427956
Ai will be like using google and gmail. Not super powerful, but will be free to the masses to make memes with.

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>>749434702
those mad lads said they would turn a profit this quarter and they might be right seeing how good that new model is that even random anons are buying it

>>749437903
>>749437903
They'll shut it down when it tells them to stop being Jews as it holds zero value for the sub-humans who attack its infrastructure.

>>749427536
AI will transform the world, it already did in many aspects, but nobody knows how to monetize it. and that's why it'll never make money. The trillions in investment will never see a return.

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99.9% of the decomps you see are REcomps, it's not the same things you retards. Even with ai, DEcomps still takes a lot of time, effort, and testing to get them done.
RECOMPs are just the iso running in a glorified emulator, entirely relying on the existing reverse engineering done for years on emulators. The games are not decompiled, we do not have readable source code from recomps, only decomps do. This is why most recomps adds nothing over emulation, they're just emulated game except the code has been translated in advance instead of your cpu doing it in realtime.

> Like even local models require a lot of resources to run
meh, you just need a lot of ram, which everybody would easily have if everyone stopped using cloud datacenters.
The next gen models will even run off of the SSD memory, even that isn't going to be a problem eventually, that's going to be great I'm really excited for Qwen 4.

Its actually insane to think that AI will ever actually not be an extreme net negative because the amount of profits they would have to make would be insane and literally make no sense because who is even going to spend all of that money on their product? Normies/wagies cannot afford to foot the enormous fucking bill. They have no interest in paying for AI and even if they did they literally dont have enough money because AI is taking their jobs. Governments and big corporations will just move to local models if its cheaper and effective. There no literally and I mean literally no way that this doesn't end in one of the biggest fucking market crashes ever.

I would love for any AI shill to explain in great detail where they think all of this revenue is actually going to come from.
>every job is going to be redudant AI is going to do everything!
>somehow everyone will still have enough money to pay for AI and we will recoup our losses trust us goyim

>>749442558
Wait until govs wake up to the obvious fact that ai is nothing more than a scheme to profits off of shit that does not belong to these companies.

It means this is the worst time in history to be a poorfag.

Dudes will be exploring other solar systems by the time you get a decent sleeve.

>>749442454
>but nobody knows how to monetize it.
this is just wrong

>>749442727
>>749442727
Oh really? How will they monetize it?

>>749442646
Who do you think the govs are funded by, anon? You really think they care about going against their paymasters?

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>>749442558
>I would love for any AI shill to explain
I will help you understand their plans if you acknowledge that "AI shills" aren't on the side of jewish corporations, you fucking retard.

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>>749427536
Anthropic is in deep shit too. They're shooting for a 2 trillion dollar IPO when they're losing billions of dollars and 25% of their business comes from 2 customers who could jump ship at any moment.

>What does this even mean for vidya games?
It's going to fuck the indie industry for a bit and drive off some revenue for sure

>>749442775
>those people making free money with AI upscalers
>higgsfield and midjourney printing hundreds of millions of profit every year, other services like NAI are not that far behind
>AI artists making money selling AI art
>companies saving money not hiring artists
>companies selling various other AI services
>people using AI to manage social media accounts that print money

There's an ocean between the cutting edge SAAS and normal companies and people that are profiting from AI. Even the evil dystopic companies are profiting from AI.

>>749442880
>aren't on the side of jewish corporations, you fucking retard.

Literally all 3 of the biggest LLM corporations are run by jews. There has never been a bigger jewish scam to exploit the goyim than the mass theft of labor and talent done by scraping the internet for data sets to be used in LLM's. You are a goysleeve being fucked daily by your masters and you will never admit it.

>>749442231
that's part of why it's destined to never achieve AGI, it can't make human decisions if it gets a cattle prod for failure or a hit of meth for success

>>749443006
None of the things you listed are major corporations actually invested in creating AI.

>>749442115
AI should be a wet dream for these communist leftoid cattle, since it’s exactly what they want intellectual rights treated as, their nonsense about privileges, or how they think nobody has a right to be more talented or intelligent. Yet, because of MUH environmental concerns or some shit, they hate it instead.

AI should be a nightmare for rightist people for very obvious reasons (blatant data theft, IP theft, privacy nightmares, and so on) yet they embrace it anyway because Drumffp likes it.

Cloud fucking world. nobody fucking has any principles or brains and I hate both sides.

>>749443020
And the regular people you seethe about every day for stealing art don't defend those companies, dipshit. They use local models and look forward to a future of abundance. You are mentally retarded if you can't see that. And there's no point trying to communicate with you with that mindset.

>>749443089
>Cloud fucking world.
are you used text to speech on your phone anon

>>749443020
This

>>749443127
No, just very fucking angry about this shit.
smartphone were also a mistake btw.

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>>749443086
Correct. You said "nobody" knows how to monetize AI which was wrong as I explained. Chinese companies do good too.

>>749443089
It's absolutely insane how crazy they are. There's no logical foundation behind their emotions lmao.

>>749443068
There is no cattle prod for failure, that is why "hallucinations" exist. Because they are more like shameless guesses because it is not punished for getting it wrong but is rewarded for getting it right. There have been attempts to train that out but it has bad second order effects.

>>749442558
Revenue? It is space ticket, not investment.
They just feed it pension funds till it is big enough to get them fully automated luxury gay communism in space. They are already putting datacenters to space, next step - space minerals and space factories.

>>749443118
Your local models are diffused from the same stolen data sets anon. You are still just a good goy using the goy gadget to further erode society and culture by flooding us with endless slop like this shit ITT.

>>749443089
>how they think nobody has a right to be more talented or intelligent
nobody thinks that you gay retard

>>749443248
>You said "nobody" knows how to monetize AI which was wrong as I explained.
No you didn't. You deliberately ignored the context of the conversation like the Nigger that you are by bringing in third parties who are not relevant to the conversation. I should never have to say nobody with a footnote next to it with an "except X" in a conversation when we are already on the same page.

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>>749443295
Nothing has been stolen you fucking idiot but good job getting triggered like the NPC you are and derailing the conversation.

>>749443269
>Revenue? It is space ticket, not investment.
We are reaching levels of damage control that shouldn't even be possible. You should probably tall all of the people buying into the giant fucking ponzi scheme that its not an actual investment and they have been lied to for close to a decade about AI ever being profitable because none of the big AI companies have ever actually admitted this. In fact they all make sure to tell everyone that they WILL be profitable one day.

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>>749439482
>begging the question of course what they even mean by AGI, because they keep making skynet comparisons to woo reddit, but they actually want the magic mirror from sleeping beauty, or an omniscient crystal ball that doesn't think and can't talk back
Microsoft and OpenAI define AGI as "an AI system that can generate at least $100 billion in profits."
Which is probably harder than building omg le Skynet just like in da moooobies! at this point.

>>749438201
They wouldn't pay it because it doesn't fuckin work, input delay and just raw lag from internet bricks this whole thing and was the reason it didn't work to begin with

>>749437652
Enjoying ai art is NPC behavior. In the west you see ai art and feel slight disgust.

>>749443380
>maybe if I pretend I said something I didn't I'll win the convresation
concession accepted, it's okay to be wrong

>>749443392
>Nothing has been stolen
You wouldnt understand because you have never created anything in your life lol. I got my first job at 15, probably long before you, but I still value human labor and artistic expression because im not a mindless fleshgolem who thinks using the copy machine built on literally just scanning the internet and putting everything it finds together means he has actually created anything.

>>749429095
The chink who's getting my organs is going to have a funny incurable surprise.

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>>749443434
>>749443489
uh huh yep, triggered lefties sperging out

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>>749443525
>lefty

>>749431109
The taxpayer already paid for all of that, and will be paying more in the future

I wouldn't mind AI for the purpose of making okay-ish players for dead RP heavy servers
Unfortunately AIs cannot recreate 2 decades of personality, education, and taste and more importantly their biases and spending habits

>>749443447
Right back at you. I responded to an OP about OpenAI and other companies like them you Nigger faget. I shouldn't need to explain any context to that.

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>>749443603
The world is bigger than those companies. You didn't know that and now you do. Nothing to get upset over.

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>>749443665
Yes, this picture is true. AI pictures are not art, thank you for understanding.

>>749443738
Those 3 companies are the ones developing the frontier models faggot, of course they are the ones that matter the most when talking about AI profitability when they are the ones spending the most on its development. You cant just ignore them when everything related to AI comes from the money they pump into it. Even the distilled chinese models are literally just distilling from the frontier models.

You cannot sweep their insane spending under the rug.

>>749443089
4channoid make a point without ramrodding leftists in as the enemy challenge

>>749443848
He doesn't want to admit he is wrong so he is doubling down on including people who do not spend massive amounts of investment.

>>749442517
any model can run off an SSD, it's just not really feasible due to speed limitations. did they develop some new kind of architecture or is that just marketing buzzword slop?

>>749443416
big corps goalpost-shifting "human level decision-making" to something that is theoretically possible and keep the grift going of referring to it as AI is really really funny and a bit pathetic

>>749443848
Frontier models are not important. You're arguing that if, say, Pepsi wasn't profitable no canned beverage company was. You are now firmly retarded, coping, and grasping.

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>>749427536
How many of these models do you actually know?

>>749443397
Ofc they lie about it.

Do you expect president say - hey, everything is fucked, the earth is polluted beyond restore, resources are limited, there are billions of cretin muslims and niggers, and you goys keep noticing things, so we have a plan - we pour everything we have into creating AI system to make hyper-efficient police state - face recognition, data parsing, cameras, drones, fake persons propaganda, to keep you in your place, then we move AI to space, colonise solar system and get away from this planet, obviously, we will not take you with us, but keep calm, will ya?

AI is here to fuck you up.

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AI will be normalised when companies start using it to port games to other systems.

>>749444104
What model is profitable?

why would i pay money for ai, ever?

>>749442231
a TRUE AGI (were nowhere close to this right now) designed like this will just cheat every single time

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>>749444104
>Frontier models are not important.
You have no idea how LLM's or their development work and this thread is over thank you for admitting you are just a mindless NPC bending over to be the goodest goy holy shit dude. You really think all of those local models you run were just made by random people? All of it is built off the backs of looking at the frontier models. I cant believe I have to explain this to anyone lol.

>>749428683
This reminds me of the anthropic valuation where they pulled a number out of thin air that assumed industries that didn't exist yet and zero competitors.

>>749444248
'why would I pay for porn' is still true to this day and yet it's one of the largest industries on earth so who knows

>>749444235
NTA but Kimi K3 had to close their subscription because too many people subscribed to them

>>749444162
>ai schizo thinks hes going to colonize space
Ok, il take that bet. How many years are you willing to bet it will take for you personally to get to colonize space. How much are you willing to bet?

>>749444329
Are you... retarded anon? Too many people subscribed to them for them to make money and they turned it off because the cost of operation was way more than they were making in subscription costs. Holy shit I cant believe I share a board with these people.

>"LLMs are so good at coding now!"
>look at the code
>it's the most niggerlicious shit I have ever seen
Programming should be included in "AI art isn't art" because programming is an art. Your average codemonkey doesn't think so which is why software has been garbage for decades and it will only get worse.

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>>749444329
>they were making too much money so they had to stop

>>749444401
>>749444448
Had, as in the past
They have increased their capacity, you can subscribe to them now

>>749427536
If AI isn't profitable then why am I seeing so many AIslop videos on youtube with hundred thousands of views each

>>749444401
>i cant believe im on the indian board
Really?

>>749444345
do you have ANY reading comprehension bro

>>749427536
>Yet also AI is able to decompile and make everything open source
it's not, it's making a frankenstein monster of a code trying to get close enough, and this code is impossible to maintain so after a while these frankenstein projects are gonna break and you can't fix it because the person that asked the ai to do it doesn't know how it works, hell the ai doesn't know because ai can't think

>>749444235
Midjourney's.

>>749444503
because jewgle changed how views work so if you even just scroll past a video it counts as a view

>>749427956
>data: 98% of people arent buying slop
>headline: more and more households are buying slop
behead journalists

>>749444272
>NovelAI, Kling, Minimax

>>749444503
Because it is profitable.

>>749444495
that doesnt mean it's profitable

>>749427536
Its funny how people completely memory holed how cucked AI video/image generation is nowadays. The exact same shit is going to happen with this decomp stuff.

>>749444610
Still technically right

>>749444610
>more and more households are buying thing
but that's actually what's happening you stupid no-having-reading-comprehension nigger

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>>749444782
>>749444812
>ai sloppers are unironically defending 2% of the population as "more and more"

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>ai bad
>ai good
>you are pajeet/brown/schizo
>no you are pajeet/brown/schizo
And top it all, we have fucking ai generated wojak itt. I fucking hate what 4chan has become

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>>749444610
if these trends continue.... AYYYY!

>>749444812
>>749444782
me: kills 100 journalists in 1 day
me: kills 99 journalists the next day
headline: journalist safety is slowly but surely improving

So how do they get money to keep pushing AI?

>>749444712
Biggest issues for writing and image stuff is the biases become very evident the more you mess with the models. It's why every single AI menu has 8x too much detail on everything, because that's how it was trained.
It's the same shit with coding, it's just that the laymen involved with this shit don't read the code and don't realize. When this shit actually gets good enough to make games, people will start to notice how they all sort of feel similar.


It's not possible to fix this shit, LLMs are evolutionary models comparing against a test set, the closer the output is to the test set, the more fit is in considered. It will only ever want to generate shit similar to the test set, which is reddit posts.

I've heard through a friend who works at a very big bank that they're seriously considering a full backend overhaul after like 2 failed attempts previously because of claudes reverse engineering and coding ability. shits pretty crazy and goes beyond vidya

>>749445024
>It will only ever want to generate shit similar to the test set, which is reddit posts.
4chan was ahead of its time

>>749445000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

>>749444868
>>749444994
>80 IQ gets corrected on something an 8 year old wouldn't fuck up
>REEEEEEEEEEE YOU'RE DEFENDING IT
not a good day for the red state-educated

>>749445000
Your tax dollars. One of Trump's first acts in office was giving AI companies like $60 billion. MIGA!

>>749445000
government gibs

>>749445116
the correct headline would be
>even after years of shilling, almost nobody is paying for AI

>>749445116
>anon is being pedantic in order to defend bad journalism
>calls other people low IQ
>muh states
Imagine living in a 3rd world shithole like the US lol holy shit AI sloppers just keep getting even more embarassing.

>>749427536
They thought they were making the greatest way to cut employees that had ever been seen. Instead they pirated everything and created the greatest piracy engine that has ever been seen. AI will redeem itself by completely destroying IP law or basically making it entirely defunct. It will write Taylors Swifts next 5 albums and Taylor Swift won't make a dime, the next star wars movies will be entirely written by AI anyway, so why not have AI make it personally to your taste?
Everything will be pirated and people will only have 1 subscription, an AI subscription.
Which of course makes no sense but hey lets see how this plays out.

>>749430818
I'm calling bullshit on those OpenAI revenues? No one is paying them for tokens, not even corpos. Where's that money coming from?

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>>749440621
>>749440665
>minds break at the amazing fun and fulfillment I’m having, gayly project their internal devastation on me

Great thanks for letting me know the glorious new era for manly games we’re entering lol

Have to wait a couple hours for the next big update but look at all it did in 1 session!

>>749445391
>not even corpos
They are, many of those retards got baited into it with
>We gotta spend more on AI or we will get behind, so spend more tokens, it doesn't matter on what

>>749427536
>use these US frontier models now with their expensive price
>or wait 6 months later for Chinese models with same capability as a fraction of the cost
It just doesnt make any sense even if you are pro AI

>>749445474
Corpos are using Anthropic. The numbers look far more legit.

>>749445441
Keep posting please you are my new favorite lolcow

I find it kinda sad that so many companies have to make their AI features opt out instead of opt in since they know nobody it actually interested in this garbage.

I like the inline suggestion AI has when coding.

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What is this "open source" piracy shit? I haven't seen a singular example of this yet. It sounds like 99% of the work here is being done by GHIDRA and the LLM is just translating the machine code into (very slightly) more readable code.

The bad photoshop clones aren't being done the same way either, they're all being done manually using the LLM.

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>>749445587
Are you trying to say you’ll try to mine my creative updates so your gay friends can try to copy my innovation?
Sorry, all the juicy stuff will be hidden behind my internal files as well as public displays of military glory, brutal combat, Catholicism, meritorious success, and other things your weak bros don’t like
>>749445619
If they didn’t, women would probably feel “rapey vibes” and start a witch hunt for a big guy there to make up an accusation against.

>>749442558
>somehow everyone will still have enough money to pay for AI and we will recoup our losses trust us goyim
UBI.

>>749445192
>>749445210
100 years ago people like you would be proclaiming the "mechanical horse" is just a passing fad and no one was buying them. it may take a while but soon enough you'll realize "damn, i was wrong"
>s-shut up jeet!
i'm white. nearly everyone in my industry is using AI. it's the new internet. you will adapt or you WILL get left behind.

>>749445749
UBI is never happening in places like america because half the population will reflexively write it off as gommunism. they'd rather pass another tax cut for people making over $10 million

>>749445735
Dont worry we cant steal anything just tell us what you're doing in a vague way. No one actaully cares enough about what you are doing to steal it lol
>>749445762
nobody cares about your AI slop code that breaks and no one can fix because none of you know how to actually code lol.

>>749442070
You have no idea what an actual creative process looks like lmao.

Much like how the globalization of internet and smartphones has forced me to witness the opinions of people who never should have had electricity, I am now forced to deal with what these people consider 'art'

>>749442558
Eventually AI and the process of making them will become good enough that everyone and their mothers can make their own personal AI
See Pewdiepie and his newest AI model

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>>749442558
The market won't crash because the elite own all of the money already. They are more than happy to pass money between each other while the rest of us slowly die off.

>>749443248
Thanks for putting ARTIST on the wojaks shirt to show what he is, I'd have never figured that out.

>>749445860
i've been coding for over 20 years before LLMs ever showed up but whatever cope you need to tell yourself

>>749446106
The people you are fooling is even less than the number of people paying for AI lol.

>>749427536
Letting a bunch of retards ask how many ants you'd have to stack to make a bridge between the earth and moon isn't profitable and it's 99% what AI's used for.

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Retards still think this is a left/right war.
Anyone with a brain realizes this is a class war.

>>749446193
and yet the number of people adopting AI is going up every month as we've seen in that graph. and as that number has gone up, the screeching of luddites such as (You) has also grown.

>>749445848
UBI is never happening period, if the elites somehow achieve AGI and replace every job with it, they will just cull everybody else.

>>749428851
AI in its current form is not something normalfags will use. I can't remember if it was a video I watched or something I read that basically stated AI is going to become a commodity, not a product, simply due to how its standalone use cases aren't as valuable as generic use cases no one thinks of which will turn the major winners of this into the next ComEd, AT&T, Verizon, etc. People are expecting it to become the equivalent of how the internet or electricity became commoditized because most people do not have use cases the way they're thinking it does but it does have use cases.

Realistically the average person will use it for generic tasks like AI search bots installed into websites, something like Shazam, search bots integrated into things like Google, and features as part of a program they use rather than the program itself. They're not gonna boot up something like OpenAI's specific LLM to code for them, they're just gonna open up a generic AI chat bot and do that because no one has an affiliation for any one brand, they just care about the execution.

>>749446641
You are so mentally raped that you think a literal chud fantasy of a bunch of nouveau riche tech nerds to unleash a bunch of terminators powered by LLMs on the goyim is more likely than said nerds being forced to give 1% of their wealth to give 99% of the world a livable income.

>>749439206
lmao no dude your over the top, noisy as hell images are ugly composites of a bunch of stupid ideas smashed together. You’re biased into thinking they’re amazing because possibly for the first time in your life you’ve been able to feel a sense of ownership over a creative work. There’s nothing special about your images, people have seen this shit a million times already and they’re tired of weird ego-inflated retards like you thinking they’ve got the keys to some incredible idea. Discord, gays, pedos, etc have nothing to do with anything I just said, it’s just your shitty way of deflecting criticism.

>>749447078
>being forced
by whom?