>>749647659Better be telling it to use rust
>>749647659Why would he artificially handicap himself by not using AI?
Definitely two more weeks now, linux sisters!
>>749647659AI make me as cool as windows
Weird how all the smart people are using AI. What could this mean???
>>749647659I don't know who that is.
Everyone important uses SI regularly. Get over it.
>>749648120pic unrelated?
AI hate is purely performative at this point. Like I get it, you don't like the horrible burger restaurant posters or whatever, move on already.
>>749647659If you know what you're doing then Ai is fine. The issue with Ai is the vast amount of digital shit being smeared everywhere
>>749648294You don't know the meaning of "performative".
AI cultists should be hanged
>>749647659I'm not surprised. I started using AI pretty regularly in my work back in July and I've found it to be incredibly useful. I am no longer constrained by the speed at which I can slam my fists against a keyboard, I can now get the AI to do the fist-slamming for me.
I'll keep my intelligence with me instead of surrendering it to the machines, thanks.
>>749649058Technocapital will use you however it sees fit. You have no choice.
/v/ turning around at MAXIMUM SPEED right after leaving threads about how bloated vibecoded Unrealslop games run like fucking garbage to then praise the efficient and helpful AI in a different thread will never stop being funny.Thing I don't like: bad in every single way, absolutely without merit alwaysThing I do like: good in every single way, utterly faultless always
>>749649325Technocapital will die from its own narcissism
>>749649659>/v/ is one person
>>749647659100x engineer
I don't give a fuck if your game was made with AI, but I want it for free. If you didn't program anything or even do the art, why should I pay you?If you don't want to give me your game for free, then there will be millions of other idiots who'll do the same thing as you (because now you don't need any talent at all), and if just 1% of them give their stuff away for free, that'll be enough to flood the gaming market so much that no one will need to buy anything anymore.In other words:Anyone who wants my money will have to do all the work and then document what they've doneAnd even then, there's a good chance I'll pirate the game lol
pretty soon we won't even need him.
>>749649058Same. Dark times ahead my friend.Butlerian jihad soon.
>>749649923Eventually yeah, but right now agentic orchestration in the hands of a senior/staff engineer is just insanely faster and the quality loss is usually low
>>749649843In fact, if a future where anyone can hire "agents" to clone games, and where more quality games are released each month than a person could play in a lifetime, the video game market will no longer make any sense at all.From then on, the only real people working in games and making a living from it will be those in a patronage system, supported by people who believe it's morally right to sponsor human artists.The mainstream market will die, because people will interact with games the way children interact with Roblox, that is, they'll have tens of thousands of free "slop-options", and they'll click on any one of them, play for a bit, and then forget about it.
>>749650021>hey claude, analyze the jobs of our senior staff and do it instead>ask multiple LLMs to check each other's work to create a perfect and accurate consensus for a much lower price than a yearly salary>can be done literally right nowthese guys will be obsolete when leadership figures this out tick tock
>>749650129>for a much lower priceNot true in fact, you forgot to account for the massive subsidization of token costs in the last few years to push LLM slop into everything.When the bubble bursts prices will skyrocket even more than they already have, and LLMs will be confined to what can be implemented on a typical businesses closet server rack, or in a second hand gaming PC running in the IT department.
>>749650129Tokens aren't gonna get cheaper, and just building a bunch of planning, authoring, reviewing, triage agents etc without fine-tuning them is just asking for insane monthly bills.
>>749650021>agentic orchestration in the hands of a senior/staff engineer is just insanely fasternarrator voice: it's actually slower *auditory laughs*
>>749649843this. im willing to tolerate the whole ai linux kernel thing so long as it doesnt break shit because linux is free to begin with. if ai really does become able to make whole games then all you have to do is wait for one attention seeking vibe code faggot to make a clone that he releases for free because he wants clout instead of money. we already have idiots burning who knows how much money in tokens just to put out a recomp or twitter clip for the clout
>>749647659Ai good in his hands because he checks the output.Ai bad in everyone else's hands because they don't check the output.Simple as.
>>749650326He didn't use AI to produce the final output, only the temporary debug boilerplate code.
>>749650286>early 2025you are so raped
>>749648294PLEASE don't use pictures of cute horsegirls for such retarded posts.
>>749649843if it was made by AI it should because how it is trained
>>749650286>Nearly 2 year old study when AI models improve massively monthly>We had them use the smaller Anthropic model which is good for simple tasks not Opus which can do complex onesI had access to the same tools studied at my corporate job and they were bad still in early 2025/Sonnet 3.5 days. I didn't start feeling like it improved the speed of development until Opus 4.5. Only recently have I felt comfortable with it doing small tasks nearly completely independently. I say this as a senior dev.
>>749648120nobody in square goynix is smart anon, they wouldn't still be working at SE if they were smart
>>749650286>Developers have a range of experience using AI tools: 93% have prior experience with tools like ChatGPT, but only 44% have experience using Cursor.Early models kind of sucked but I think this is just devs having to learn to use a new IDE.
>>749650438Exactly my point. He checked the output and reformatted it in his image.
>>7496505092 more weeks until AGI sister, just believe
>>749650509okay now lets see results for the control group
>>749647659What will trannies do now?
ai is amazing for the business apps I used to make at work.
>>749648294>AI hate is purely performative at this point.the usual suspects want this to be a political platform like green energies which are anything but green, and social justice but it is not sticking.
>saar I'm senior dev redeem the AI saarthat's what happens when you save on shills because your business is billions in debt
Linus already had Microsoft-employed trannies try to oust him once before. I guess they're doing it again and using AI BAD as their rallying call
>>749650509get ready to be replaced
>>749650286This study looks at async code gen and not sync code gen. That's the difference between mass generating everything and then reviewing at the end vs generating blocks and editing on the spot. Studies show a night and day difference between the two with the former being ass and the latter being highly effective. The bottleneck in the best cases is human review still has to occur no matter if its 100% human or AI and humans only review so much code at a time so even if we can make code 25%+ quicker with sync methods or autocompletes with 0 bugs, the shipping train only moves so fast
>>749647659Erm ackshually, he's using Super Intelligence.
>>749650867linus is going down
>>749650286early 2025 ai sucked ass compared to early 2026 ai, which was worse than it is nowit's not perfect but these old studies become outdatd fast when things change so quickly
>be anti-vaxx>lose>be anti-AI>lose again What will /v/ be wrong about next?
>>749649796Yes. I am /v/. Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>749648294>AI hate is purely performative at this point.Here are some things that are a consequence of AI>AI bots are now more numerous than ever>Fraud is now more numerous than ever>We're all paying for AI subsidies>Indians are now 3 times more annoying >Websites now need to do ID verification or do API rate limits to stop scraper bots>Constantly getting shilled down our throats>Constantly being lied by tech ceos>AI still is not making a profit
>>749647659um isn't he supposed to be brown?
>>749653457Only a retarded vaxxie could post bait this obvious.
>>749653457Haha you are vaxed, loser.
Is there a particular country that is getting gatekept from AI that they would pay a campaign to shitpost on the entire internet?I have never seen this particular discourse IRL.
>>749649978Soon ideally
>>749655976>>AI still is not making a profiti dunno what you're even talking about at this point. the biggest AI company (anthropic) is making money hand-over-fist. they've been profitable since early-mid 2026 and are now making billions in pure profit per month
>>749649978>>749656279you will do nothing and your little threatening anti-AI comment here is going into databases that will get you prison raped. enjoy! powerless LARPgoyim
>>749656435>goyim calls others goyim
>>749656467keep posting powerless, laughable little "da fire rises, we r gonna destroy that freakin chat gee pee tay" facebook boomer comments as you are rendered more and more owner and raped by the day. obedient little slave
>>749656402>revenue>revenue>revenueOkay bro.>They said they're making a profitAI corps have been lying nonstop during this entire bubble. Every 3 months one of the major AI companies goes to Twitter and talks about how their latest model has finally achieved AGI (bullshit lie)
>>749648294You are only supporting AI because they are the only ones who makes uma porn
>>749656269Poor countries generally. Browns can't afford to pay the monthly subs and token costs.They either cry about it or run sone chinese model on their favelaPCs
>>749656607
>>749648120If you have a subject matter expert doing it and no risk of retarded jeets contaminating your supply chain, then it's fine. The problem arises when you get flooded with code that looks competent enough to need to be checked and that insists on hiding the fact that it was AI proompted instead of being able to just reject everything from retards.>>749650070Software got made before software copyright was a thing and will continue to get made after AI kills software copyright as a viable idea.
>>749647659>>749648120You know Linus is in WEF right?https://www.weforum.org/people/linus-torvalds/
>>749650319>im willing to tolerate the whole ai linux kernel thingThat will now have spyware that will never get detected.
>>749658345you seem to have absolutely no clue how open source works, or even how software works. AI is *a nightmare* for spyware and backdoors hidden in software. if there was any backdoor in linux before, AI would be the thing that would catch it. what an immensely stupid post. every anti-AI person appears to have a literal sub 70 IQ
>>749647725Happened a couple years ago, actually.
>>749656103>>749656217I wonder what the betting odds would be that /v/ actually gets something right for once. Probably 5,000:1.
>>749658981Lol idiot.
>>749658345Ironic. I literally used ChatGPT to delete a fucking bitcoin miner that got installed with the pirated version of E33 I torrented a year ago. That’s the first time I’ve ever managed to remove a virus before.
>>749653376anyone who is under 30 has no memory of how fast tech changes used to move back in the 90s where companies would make it or break it based on what technological innovation they chose to adopt.and it would be decided by about 3 months.within 3 months you would either realize you wasted your money adopting something that just became outdated (despite being only a year old) and doomed your company to fall behind, or that you managed to jump far ahead of your competitor that decided to wait those same 3 months, and whom is now ALSO fucked because they didn't risk it.
>>749659218you sure are. you are *very* dumb, probably struggle with basic life tasks. your brain is so primitive and brown that it simply associates "AI" with "bad things" (your retard childlike brain has absorbed that much from the mass media environment,) so it makes absurd associations like "AI will create secret spyware in the linux kernel!" because you know that spyware is a bad thing and that AI does bad things.
>>749659218He's not wrong tho, LLMs are good for static analysis in practice. It's a common trend in machine learning, the neural networks are good in pattern recognition. For example, one was trained to tell men from women by rib form, something that was deemed impossible by human doctors before.
what is it about becoming a boomer that erodes your morals and integrity?Do you just get too close to death and stop caring? so you revolve your life around short-term hedonism (taking paychecks to endorse memes?)
>>749659346yes schizophrenic retard, i'm sure everyone who humiliates you in AI discussions is a salaried Anthropic employee
>>749659321Ok retard.
>>749659365>salariednot what i'm saying at all
>>749659374>>749659218>>749658345notice the zoomer mutt can't even assemble a coherent thought, it just repeats headlines it read on its iPhone and when that doesn't work it starts getting emotional and niggerlooping. utterly sad
>>749659379Then explain AI so it can tell me because you sure ain't making sense chief. Got a problem with your suspenders every morning? Lol!
>>749647659>You joined the blue team to spite the red team. But we own both teams.
>>749659374I accept your concession.
>>749659410i see i've touched a nerve to elicit a weird response like his.interesting.
>>749659408It’s not even worth engaging with them. They get BTFO in every single fucking thread and yet still come back and make the same dumbass posts. Idk if they just *like* being insulted or what, because they obviously aren’t convincing anyone of anything.
why must we always fight and argue like this bros? it makes me cry
>>749659485Idk anon. Too much testosterone, too little consequence for being an idiot. It’s rough out here, ya know?
>>749659346They’ve always been immoral and hide it with performative morality as a front for debauchery, these are the same people responsible for hippies, the sexual revolution, and third wave feminism.
>>749659485Bumps keep discussion alive. It's a sad state of affairs. Only by ignoring bait and mods shutting down bot discussions could we get genuine discussion. Sadly that's an impossible ask.
>>749656559omega cope
>>749659467I accept your concession.
>>749659485
>>749655976>>AI bots are now more numerous than everI haven't noticed a difference. In fact, 4chan is less active than ever. /pol/ went from 200k posts a day to 50k posts a day in the past 3 years. where are those bots?>Fraud is now more numerous than evernot in my experience. I'm still at 0 frauds in my life.>We're all paying for AI subsidiesso the government is fucking you? how is this any different from literally any other time period? this is just a fact of life.>Indians are now 3 times more annoying no indians in my spaces I don't care>Websites now need to do ID verification or do API rate limits to stop scraper botsnot my problem and probably not yours either>Constantly getting shilled down our throatspopular thing is popular good argument>Constantly being lied by tech ceosCEOs lie wow so new and unprecedented>AI still is not making a profitoh so you're a tech CEO? should've figured that one out sooner.
>>749659346They were born during the peak lead era and they were able to witness software as a hobby being ripped from them because software copyright became a thing in 1980.Fuck Lost Generation Fuck Greatest Generation.
>>749648294No my jeet friend, it's you nobody likes. You stink and you're unpleasant to be around.
>>749659642I mean, to be fair, it works. I loathe 99% of the “people” I interact with on this board. I’m not here because it’s better than anywhere else; I’m here because it’s a habit.
>>749659792This is the kind of post that is responsible for ruining 4chan. If you aren’t being paid to ruin this website, anon, then why do you do it?
>>749647659>ai will make linux troon freebased, i cannot fucking wait to mating press my ai robot wife bros
>>749659612>We're making a profit>No, we won't let you see the numbers, just trust us bro
>>749659691based anonthis reminds me of old 4chan, most posters used to be able to think critically like this and would mog retards
so what is the point of using troonix when both are vibecoded by jeet now?
>>749659691>Widespread ID verification is "not my problem"Goycattle post.Subservient to tech billionaires
>>749659974he lives in the first world
>>749659974>Widespread ID verification is "not my problem"the point is that you made it up. that EU law isnt going to pass, youre just fearmongering
>>749659959It works better, simple as.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqtlpqeYhjMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oIyk13JwQM
>>749647659I hope this leads to the development of a horrible security issue and everybody switches to templeos
>>749647659Isn't it what AI is supposed to be used for? Work and research? With human supervision, it's not like he's throwing prompts into CodeGPT and launching the thing without reviewing it.It's when John Talentless uses AI to steal art pieces and tries to sell them as his own that AI is a problem. Of course not mentioning the environmental and social impact of data-centers, but it's pretty much besides the point if you can run a local model with a 5090 and a couple sticks of RAM.
>>749647659Using ai, or vibing shit? The first is perfectly fine.
>>749660095Sorry, I don't speak with castrated goycattle.
>>749660105>speed test>0 tested gamesyou need to do better than that lamo
>>749660153I didn’t draw this; DALL-E 3 generated it for me. And I’m selling it for $5,000 if you’re interested.
>>749660189I accept your concession.
>>749660238goes to g if you want to smell you own farts, this is video gayme board
>>749660167Yeah I’d like to stick a vibrator up my shitter too
>>749660095The EU has gotten more dystopian on mass migration, climate change, assisted suicide, criminal justice, gibs handouts, infanticide, no fault divorce, etc. but this one time bro we won’t get absolutely raped trust me bro.
>>749647659based Torvald. sexual degeneracy btfo.
>>749660189You lost tranny.
>>749660357Thank god I don’t live in the EU. I’ve seen Goya’s Ghosts. Ain’t nobody got time for that.
>>749660397Ok now do it but with games I would actually play
>>749659959>the point of open source was to be inefficient and not develop using AIwhat an odd post
>>749660447Sorry, nobody's gonna test games with LGBT tag specifically for you.
>>749647725All the trannies desperately clinging to the project would otherwise throw a tantrum.
>>749660465must be hard living with dyslexia
>>749650454>>749650509>>749650643>>749650894>>749653376>THE MODELS SUCKSCope faggots. AHAHAHA COPE. It's always the models sucking. Every single time they suck. >just uhm use latest modelAnd then that one is fucking garbage too.AHAHAHAHA FAGGOTS
>>749660476>forspoken >starfield Why not? You’re already half way there
year of FreeBSD gaming
>>749660226I don't like it, the proportions are fucked up and not because it's in toon style, and it shows no personality. Not 5k but just 20 bucks at a convention, it's far from unheard of. Don't play semantics to try and disprove my point, you know AI "art" is mostly copyright infringement that often leads to a form of scamming.
>>749647659Linus is right thougheverbeit
>>749659959>Linux needs to just werk or no one will use it>Windows just needs to secure government and corporate contracts from retarded BoomersI will take the OS that isn't just jeetcode stapled to NT that somehow still can't handle keyboard layouts with any degree of consistency or convenience.
>>749660226i love it, i want to marry her, i want to wear a mushroom hat and share her pipe
>>749647659If you're a developer you're pretty much forced to use AI to code because the deadlines and expectations are build around AI code now.>Is the AI code bad?Yes.>Is it fast?Yes.All that matters is that it's fast because time is money.
>>749660720>it was real in my mind
>>749660619i can smell your curry through the screen raj. it smells brown.
>>749660790Indians love AI you stupid fucking retard. You vibe faggots are really fucking stupid.
>>749660735Does Linus even gave a job?
>>749660962I wish he gave me a job.
>>749647994legal uncertainty.>ackshually AI code isn't copyrightable and/or ai regurgitated code samples retain their original license and is considered piracy if used in GPL programswould probably result in a software apocalypse by now so it's probably safe to assume such laws will never be passed.still, IP law is probably gonna have to be rejigged regardless at some point or another.>megacorpo can freely and openly pirate anything and everything to train their for profit ai models with no consequence>you go to jail for 5000 years if you download entersandman.mp3 or some research papers without a loicense
>>749660357cool list any examples?
>>749647659>I'M A WHITE MAN, I WROTE MY OWN FUCKING COMPILER. I'M NOT A NIGGER LIKE LINUSholy shit terry blowing him the fuck out from beyond the grave
>>749661240I wonder what he would think of AI if he was alive. Rip King
The modern tech war will be won by the countries that utilize AI the best and at the moment, it's India. Look at some of the work coming out of IIT, notice how India isn't majorly anti AI?
