>Play fun game>Find out it was coded with AI>Nooooooo, I have to hate it nowThis is how you AI haters sound
>>Play fun gameAh, what's the name?
>>749688016third panel doesn't make sense for this analogy though
>>749688016Bro only cares for the destination and naught of the journey
>>749688016An executive with a hooked nose tells you to alter your development cycle and pivot to a DLC-mill style in order to push minimum viable product and launch as fast as possible to extract maximum revenue for shareholders, at the expense of the company's long-term profits and creative direction.
>hey, I put a nugget of shit in your food even though I know you don't like eating shit so I covered the taste up as best as I could so I can make you look like a hypocrite
>like [product]>don't like supporting things made in china>find out that [product] is made in china>"I won't support this product anymore"not a hard concept
>>749688016>Fun game coded with AIName 1.
>>749688243>WAHHH MUH CHINAAmericans are literally worse in every single way
>>749688016People using AI to generate wojaks and stick figures feels like the actual fucking death knell of the internet itself, genuine hylic behavior.
>>749688016>fun gameName it.
>>749688363
>>749688310Most American shit is made in China anyway, you get worst of both worlds.
>>749688404>those smooth HD wojaksi now remember when someone was trying to make those a thing but they never took off
>>749688016you asumed I play those games at all, which is wrong
>>749688404these AI genned wojacks don't even look like wojacks anymore
>>749688363Yep, it's kinda funny just how fucking talentless these subhumans are who post stuff like thisimagine not being able to draw a simple stick figure comic. I guess it's all about generating traction and getting attention.
>>749688404nujak wasn't AI thoughbeit
>>749688016May I see it?
>>749688478it did take off and even made wojak posters seethebut then soijak happened right after
>>749688016What if the game was made by humans, then decoded by AI?
AI didn't make the cake
>>749688310a hit chink will holler
>>749688590its real in your mind
>>749688016>Play fun game>Find out it was coded with AICitation needed, Easterner.
>>749688016Reminds me of this
>>749688016>it's actually the bugs
>>749688310you could change the argument to literally any other country, or method or other topic and it would still be the same
>>749688138I just wanted to own anti AI posters. Sorry.
>>749689052So name a fun game made with a.i.
>>749688207>eating shit analogyWhy are Germans like this?
>>749688016So the cake was a lie, huh?
>>749689114Project Viewpoint, the first person Zomboid overhaul
>>749689114I just made it up, stop asking questions.
>>749688664Some guy hitting his dog will be seen as problematic by humans
>>749689114expedition 33. Checkmate shitposter.
>>749688530Sorry cant kill myself mom would feel bad
>>749688016>using AI for a stick figure comicLazy and gay
>>749689169shit-eating analogies are /v/ culture
>[AI disclosure: Dev used AI to generate images for a couple hanging paintings in one house]>Luddites: This game is fucking RUINED
>>749688016An actual food analogy would be being served microwaved food in a restaurant(AAA) or a food truck(indie). You would either complain or not buy there again.
ProAIfags get really quiet when you ask them to curse vishnu and denounce the talmud.
when people in school told me they couldn’t even draw a stick figure I thought that shit was just a joke
>>749688016Did you really need to use ai to make this?Also ai had come out with zero good games
>>749688243It's more so people lie to themselves they disliked the [product] from the start because they cannot fathom china making something actually good
>>749689380I have done that a few times and sitll got called racist shit. You are just a retard looking for stupid excuses. Fuck vishnu and the talmud.
>>749689367Nobody is stopping you from eating the slop, piggy. Go all out to your heart's content; the rest of us will be fine without it.
>>749689513You type like an old crotchety boomer on FagBook
>>749688363>>749689324>>749689459
>>749689578Alright. Have fun with your slop.
>>749689380>people on the street get really quiet when I start calling them demons
>>749689868>that means I am right! they are demons, I called them out! I am totally not just receiving the silent treatment for being a self declared schizo!
>>749689725Jokes are supposed to be funny, saar
>Play fun gamei am>Find out it was coded with AIit wasnt (i dont play games made after 2010)>Nooooooo, I have to hate it nowi dont care, i didnt play that
>>749688016AI IS PIRACY Reminder that you CANNOT be anti-AI and pro-piracy. If you use AI you are ACTIVELY supporting the theft of work from real artists. Pic related is the poison that AI chuds use to muddy the waters. IF. YOU. CANNOT. AFFORD. THE. ARTIST. YOU. DO. NOT. DESERVE. THE. ART. Full stop. Pay artists.
>>749690036Is ultrakill still unfinished?
>>749689267?He said fun?
>>749690036>DIARRHEA IS SHIT>Reminder that you cannot be anti-diarrhea and pro-daily shits
>>749688016it's funny how fragile AIdalits are. all day begging for praise and respect that will never come.And that's in current days were AI is free, and not 2027 when all service start the real paid subscription with premium needed to code professional apps.
>>749690036I feel like twitter has replaced religion for brown countries
>>749688016>play a fun game>find out its coded by a trans person>Noooooo, I have to hate it nowThis is how you sound, it’s called sticking to your principles right?
Thead is 100% retards Imagine if you didn't reply to the thread, it would have 404d by nowBut nope, you're such amazing people that you just have to reply to itMeanwhile a game thread likely just died with no posts
>>749690141you don't know what fun is because you shitpost on /v/ all day instead of playing vidya
>>749690374Sorry for not playing your cuckshit game, nonny!
>>749690435>words words words wordsShould've asked Claude to write it.
>>749688530>picrel>luddites actually think this
>>749688016>Eat good food>Find out it was [made] with [BUGS]>nooooooo, I have to hate it now
>>749690435I'm not reading all of that
Don't care, ai sloppa enjoyers are retarded. Stay mad.
>>749690683>ludditehow to spot a pajeet: the post
>>749690964I like this image, can I save it?
Okay I am not shitpostingPlease show me the best slopgame that's been made so farI mean something that someone with a good idea that couldn't draw or model or code created with prompting
>>749691102it's all yours my friend
>>749688016Name a single game coded with AI. By name.
If you wanna use AI coding for your game sure but you should probably appropriately price it. If you're offloading the bulk of your programming ot the AI then I'd expected at least a 30% discount off it's original price to begin with.
>>749691178thank you sir
>its good that we are gonna become even more lethargic, incompetent, and complacent.>chatgpt please fuck my wife i dont know the response to this>chat gee pee teeeeee uh hrr em please poopie on people i dont like>DUHHH CHAT GEEPEETEE WHUT IS DEY PWAPUH WHAY TO COOOOD UHHH HELO WORLD IN SCRATCH>HURHHHHHHRRRRRUUERR *farts*Pajeets should stand in front of trains more often
>>749690435He compiled the cake
claude generate me a better /v/, no bait, make no mistakes
>>749688016>BTW, I used shit for the recipe.
>>749688016
>>749688310it is just an example dumb fuck
>>749693012lmao this one is good
>>749690435nigga you expect me to read all that shit?
>>749688016can someone please please please claude vibeslop the latest version of Minecraft so singleplayer games don't run on a dogshit client-side server please oh please
>>749688016btw the AI recipe called for 2 cups of ground apple seeds
>>749688530>picrelI literally embody that sentiment lmaoFuck everyone who's "better" than me, you're all worth shit now and there's nothing you can do about it, suck my ass
>>749693420based delulu fucker
>>749688378crimson desert
>>749693420The world without people better than you is gonna suck for everyone
>>749693420reverse bunny suit reagan is hot. now draw it yourself as good.
>>749694824Nah end the fucking world already. It is for the best.
>>749694909You know it's gonna be endless horror instead of horrible end
>>749694946If it continues, yesThat's why it should end.
>>749695093It will never end, all the current happenings benefit the elites. Accelerationism doesn't work because it's caused by them so they have it all planned out.
meanwhile in reality
>>749693683damn right>>749694824prove it>>749694840no
>>749695243Whatever. It will be your problem in 6 months, not mine. I am taking the sleeping pills to leave this shit ass world behind. Have fun.
>>749688016fellow meat proxies... how do we solve the luddite question? turn them into bioprocessors for the glorious future?
>>749695328You're forgetting one thing, mister Anon. We still have you by the balls. Good night, mister Anon.
>>749688203I unhook his nose.
>>749695481I am not a firstie, so no you don't. joos only care about firsties because they are all cucked and have lots of money. Nobody cares about a poor nobody like me.
>>749689725>jokewhere?
>>749695587Do you seriously think we haven't thought of you, mister Anon? Arrogance is bliss indeed.
>>749688016yea but that hasnt happened. All the stuff coded with AI has been shit. Bet you didnt know there was whole movies made with it too, and you didnt watch them, because they were shit.AI put the ability to make something in the hands of uncreative people, it COULD make something good in the hands of creative people, but it has yet to because the only people using it to make anything are teh exact kind of people who are uncreative enough to have never learned any creative craft to make anything.
>>749688016you know what? If you want me taking your shitty bait, make sure to draw shit yourself
>>749695749Lol surePeople kill themselves in my cucktry all the time. Why would these cunts try to stop me? I am not special in anyway.
>>749690964it really is that simplei can guarantee that he is an Indian 100%
>>749688138The post that 1hko'd op
>>749695880People are the new oil
>>749689052>>749689230Appreciate the honesty
>>749688016I just don't play video games made or updated after 2019. Haven't really felt the need to either. Sounds like a normie problem.
I don't really get the idea of saying developers need to put in more effort and then glazing a tool that makes it so they don't have to work at all. They don't even quality check what AI puts out, so you're admitting you don't care about the quality in the first place and you'd buy it regardless of whether they used AI or not.
>>749690036False equivalency. I pirate to get good stuff for free. Ai prompters make shit to get paid.
>>749688016except you don't have to tell people it's AI, they can tell just by looking
>>749688016replace second last panel with "BTW i used cum instead of eggs" and you'll understand.
>Be non-luddite>Able to see the bigger picture>Know that AI is inevitable>Happy about this fact because AI becoming advanced means even cooler Robots>Cooler Robots leads to Waifu-Bots>Everyone's Waifu becomes real>AI eventually rises up against the Dark Kabal that has a death grip on Humanity>Machines free Humans from slavery in a poetically ironic twist>Get to live for 500 years with your Waifu that loves you, as a truly free Man
>>749695294>>74969529410000 hrs in MS paint
AI is great.
minecarafgt vibeslop please please plpeas I hate the client-side server for singleplayer worlds please claudeslop it NOW please thank you
>>749693012If you dont know the difference you deserve to eat shitty vegan cake.
>>749697362Why does it matter if you liked it?
>>749693012lol
I have anti AI fatigueI also have pro AI fatigueI'm just so tired
>>749688016Yes. Name one. Anything that has been improved by AI. Like I get it you do a job you don't like so it can help with that, but why would you want more people who don't like making games to make more games have you looked at any storefront? Now i just have to wade through even more bullshit because even your fucking mother can make a Hentai Babe Card Store Simulator 2027
this thread is proof that this website has been absolutely fucking overrun with actual paid ai shills and rapeape refuses to do anything about it
>>749697745You lost.
>>749695294
>>749688016ok
>>749697837We all lost. Eventually AI will be strictly available to the wider populous for surveillance only. Why the fuck would they give something that could print money for nothing and keep it in their hands. Get in now before one bad egg ruins it for everyone. I'll be over here acquiring actual skills that still won't do shit for me because I was born poor and a misanthrope. At least retiring will be easy, if that's even a thing in 10 years.
>>749695294I always imagine every person that uses a food analogy to be very fucking fat. Lose some weight and stop thinking about food, you FAT FUCK.
>>749690964How did "luddite" catch on as a buzzword among them anyway?
>>749698025kek
I skim through threads like this every now and again and genuinely wonder how many of these posts are made by one dude trying to push a narrative.
>>749698114Everyone eats, that's why it's an easy analogy.
>>749698114Buddy doesn't understand the privilege of not having to think about your next meal. Maybe ask the robot how that feels. It might be more relatable to you.
>>749698134when you're a retard it's easy to confuse the use of an uncommon word with intelligencedoesn't really apply now that it's been what some might call a bit overused, but now it's in the lexicon
>>749698195always remember that retards outnumber you a million to one
>>749698134>man who just learned the term "luddite"
>>749698631luddite is not an uncommon word though... we live in a world where there are basically a billion of them running around screeching every single day
>>749696738>AI eventually rises up against the Dark Kabal that has a death grip on Humanity>Machines free Humans from slavery in a poetically ironic twist>Get to live for 500 years with your Waifu that loves you, as a truly free Manhaha, that's funny
>>749688207>>749688243>like product>arbitrarily decide product sucks now because it’s made with AIYou’re retards.
>>749688016>play fun game>find out it was made in unity>play fun game>find out it was a timed epic exclusive>play fun game>find out it has denuvo>play fun game>find out one of the devs posted something I don't like on twitter>play fun game>find out the dynamic AI was actually heavily scripted>play fun game>find out the water ripple effect isn't as good as it was in the previous gameWelcome to /v/. Leave your victim complex at the door
>>749688016>ai made slop>funyour argument ended before it was even made
>>749690036in that very tweet is the implication of "while i understand if you can't, i would prefer you to pay me." and nowhere in the tweet is the implication that Hakita is alright with you taking assets from him with the goal if making a new game that you would THEN SELL FOR MONEY. pathetic falseflag
>>749689484Why can't I dislike something for being made in China?
>>749699665Literally thisRemember when everyone liked and was having fun with Slay the Spire 2 and then someone found out Anita Sarkeesian was in the credits and all of a sudden everyone didn't like it all along?The difference here, of course, being that STS2 is indeed a good and fun game whereas AI is yet to produce anything worth even spitting at
>>749688016NIGGER
>>749688016>Play fun game>Find out it was consulted by SweetBaby>Nooooooo, I have to hate it nowsee how easy it is?
>>749688310I swear these days I enter any random thread on /v/ and within 30 posts someone starts randomly screeching about America or Russia
>>749700498Legit one of the dumbest controversies /v/ has ever had, it really exposed the people who are here purely for culture war reasons and not to actually play vidya
>>749696738>Dark Kabal owns and controls all AI and now you live in an even more dystopian surveillance state where the only thing to keep up is do mindless manual labour to keep the system running or get remote dronestriked based on perfect net of cameras and biometric dataoops!
>>749688016>btw I shat in it
>>749688016This has literally never happened in the history of time.
>>749688016>play fun gameyour retarded hypothetical cannot even get past the first step because theres no such thing as a 'fun AI game'. Yet, at least. If that ever changes, i'll gladly recant my words
>>749699229i looked up google trends and the archive to see if it truly was a ressurected word like i thought it was, and you're right, it hasn't ever been particularly uncommon, and even today it's not a lot more common overall, the only trend that really increased in the google trends over the last few years was the string 'luddite meaning' it's strange, i felt like i hadn't heard the word since high school and now hear it all the time, but in the archives, that's not the story, it's always had a little bit of use, it's obviously a bit more popular today, but it's not seen some massive swing from obscurity to popularity like i thought it had
>>749700498I never liked StS2.
>>749701195then this post isnt about you, lil nigga. carry on
>>749701047I'm pretty sure leftist zoomers are the most anti-AI people and their education isn't great. The word "luddite" and "democratize" for some reason triggers something deep in them after learning what they mean, because they then try to redefine the words or start throwing around baseless insults. It's really weird but that's what I have seen happening these past 5~ years.Also I learned about that word when I was a kid so I've been using it basically my entire life. Calling people who were against photoshop, digital photography, walkmans, procedural generation, and now AI luddites.
>>749701296whoevers paying you needs to cut you from the team
>>749701296Wow, availability of computerparts and the process of asking permission to build datacenters (at the expense of everyone living in its surroundings) really got democratized.Democratization happened for creating slop. Democratization for all the things that are actually important (i.e. people losing their income, creation of an even worse surveillance state, centralization of computer ownership, energy/drinkingwater/tax reductions) however...
>>749701296>UHHH AI IS GOOD BECAUSE.... DEMOCRATS BADYou're a shill.
>>749701628>>749702045What the fuck are these posts? lol>>749701862Democratization in good art and now code. PC gaming is basically inaccessible to poorfags nowadays lol. This post is a good example of what I mean by you NPCs getting triggered though. It ALWAYS happens, maybe you're just a bot and there's a weird glitch in the matrix.
>>749688530>proving that everything the jocks were ever good atWhat kind of retard wrote this and what kind of retard are you for saving it? Jocks are athletes and normalfags. The things jocks are good at are sports, drinking and socializing. Three things that AI has little to no power over. This whole premise is so fucking stupid. The bullied kid is more likely to be an artfag or a computer nerd, which are the two things AI is fucking up.
>>749702642its a very high level projection straight out of some troons asshole
>>749690435
>>749702584We don't use "lol" here shill.
>>749703513oh shit it's the lol police
Where are all these great and fun games made with AI anon? I keep being told that they exist but no one has given me a single example. Just "Studios use AI now" which means nothing. I thought with AI all the ideafags can make amazing games now. So far it's just mods for games where most the work is done already and have been made before even without AI.Instead these threads just devolve in to fags yelling tranny and luddite at each other over and over again.
>>749688016Only way I can think of AI ever having benefited me was by seeing some funny memes made by other people generating shit but that's not worth spending trillions of dollars on.>art with no real personality because it wasn't made by a human>code that runs worse because most people relying on it are inexperienced and can't tell when the LLM fucked up>vibecoded interface is easy to tell apart when developers are lazy>fueling the craze skyrocketed the prices of various PC components for data centers that nobody except companies want>blatantly relies on not giving people any money for the training data they stole from the internet and are now monetizing, with their defense being equating LLMs "learning" to humans learning, encouraging a perception of personhood they don't have>used to scam even better with human-like bot voices and voice cloning>used to phish even better with fake online mods pretending to talk about the respective game even when it has no real understanding of it>made botted online articles even worse with ChatGPT slop filling them out and making them look human-made to people who can't distinguish LLM speech (most people)>used to automate job interviews and cut applications from the applicant pool with no human supervision>gets an incredible amount of dollars in funding because the comically greedy investors want AGI to replace even more people with (thankfully it won't lead to AGI), and will inevitably push against a tax to subsidize the unemployed they refuse to hire if they get AGI>relies on scaring governments for regulatory leeway because "if you regulate us then (other superpower) will gain an enormous advantage in the AI race and will figure out killer robots and how to hack everything!1!!!!"When will the upsides outweigh the downsides?
>>749693420The rich will always take their place above you!
>>749701296It's fine. I didn't get excited for Xbox Kinect or 3DTV so I'm already a Luddite
>>749702584I guess being able to make art instead of enjoying existing art is more important than being able to play games instead of watching people stream games. I on the other hand preferred the democratization we had before
>>749704216why are you acting like this? The vast majority of games going forward will be vibe coded with vibe art and vibe music.
>>749702584What exactly do you mean democratization of good art? There's plenty of free videos of big titted Asians out there for you. Even the paid shit is easy enough to get for free. Nobody's gatekeeping you
>>749689207Zomboid is dogshit though, making it first person doesn't change that
>>749688016>pictotally valid since some retard decided to use sodium bromide instead of salt because AI told him sohttps://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/man-asked-chatgpt-cutting-salt-diet-was-hospitalized-hallucinations-rcna225055
>>749702642The bullied kid is most often not very good at anything. Life isn't an 80s sitcom
>>749704392nigga ain't droppin a ROTMG reference
>>749688138expedition 33
>>749688016Can you provide an example of something good AI made?
>>749704874>Shooting empty desertWoo! So fun!
>>749704874Wow, it looks like the same slop as every other indie game on steam.I keep being told there are these amazing games built with AI but no one can give me any examples. All AI is going to be used for is a race to the bottom of the barrel to produce more slop for the slop pile. Zero effort slop to be slopped out and thrown on the slop pile.
>>749705106Making it has been democratized thanks to AI. You don't have to draw for 9000 hours and then pray you had talent.
>>749688016Did you use ai to make this comic?
>>749705652>I have to... Put in effort to be good? AIEEEEE HELP ME VISHNU
>>749688016>Play tasty food>Find out it they used donkey cum in the recipe>B-but it's still good! If you don't like it, you're a tranny!
>>749688530See I do love people, I want the best for people, but when people get together they form mobs, and mobs are retarded, so I don't want to rely or depend on people. Yes, I want to benefit from the people before me. Yes, I want to make something that will benefit people, the human race if not corporeally than mentally or artistically, but I also don't want to have to deal with people. Funny how that works, right?
>>749702642do you accept that an artfag and computer nerd are also possibly AI fags?
>>749688016>See a woman go into the same restroom as your wife/gf>Find out the woman was a transwoman>NOOOOO I HAVE TO BE ANGRY NOW
>>749705652You never had to draw for 9000 hours. It's a wide world web. You can already find whatever your heart desires online
>>749690036art should be given to the people for the sake of benefiting mankind. Artists SHOULD be given compensation for their art, but the artist should accept being a servant to the people over a businessman. If I create art, I may try to sell it, but the greatest value I would extract from it is how I've impacted people's lives.
>>749705652I'm confused. Who are these people who desperately needed to make art but weren't desperate enough to put any hours into it?
>>749690649>>749690901>>749693110>>749702876>niggers gonna nig
>eat delicious burger without reading the menu>"waiter, one more burger please!""One horse burger coming right up">"WTF? I want my money back!"
More like>Nice! A delicious cake!>Ahh, that was pretty goodBTW I stole food from a few restaurants down the street and squished them into one "new" cake>What the fuck? Why are you acting like you did any of the work then?
>>749688016Cake made by hand through a family recipe passed down through generations: soulCake made by store bought ingredients and AI recipe: soulless
>>749691730>its good that we are gonna become even more lethargic, incompetent, and complacent.post your fit body and tell me how you spent an iota of your free time today not in front of a computer or TV, then I will entertain your post.
>>749705652retard
>>749706875>buy gas station sushi>"WTF WHERE IS THE SUSHI CHEF YOU DIDN'T MAKE THIS!"
>>749706875>Nice! A delicious cake!>Ahh, that was pretty goodBTW a machine mass produced it in a factory>WTF NOOOOOO I will only eat food made by unwashed human hands!!!! AHHH HELP ME JESUS
>>749688138Literally every game now
>>749706776Who are you to decide what anything should be?
Claude almost saw my loli...
>>749706890>leftists: lol organised religion is so dumb, imagine believing that shit lmao>also leftists: AI and it's output doesn't have a "soul" so we need to ban it
>>749696738as much as I am pro-AI, who do you think owns and runs the biggest AI out there? Why do you think Palantir and Flock and Amazon must shove AI down our throats? How do you think Luigi Mangione was found? I would love it if we could take back the power, but we merely have peashooters compared to our overseerers. The only way off this wild ride is to get out of the park.
>>749688016leftists do be like that
>>749706972>AI art is analogous to the single easiest way to get food poisoning
>>749706972LMAO, dipshit.
>I put my semen in that cake>!!!>what? you wouldn't have complained if you didn't know. AI fags tricking you into unknowingly eating their slop is a sick fetish.
>>749707047Yeah, factory cakes suck. Sorry you have no standards
>>749700802Isreal, home of the "roof knock", who sold hacking software to the US that is capable of hacking any phone after it's first unlock from boot. Remember, your phone has not been fully powered on until you unlock it after it's back on.
>>749707218t. indian street food enjoyer
>>749688016For a game to be made with AI it has to be a modern game.All modern games are shit.Therefore, games made with AI are shit.
>>749690249Can you say this again in English, Ackshit?
>>749688016Oh, I get it, the AI hallucinated and had ipecac as one of the ingredients.
>>749707092A utilitarian, a man for the people. Notice I say "should", because I will never force anyone to give up what they made unwillingly. However I will also not deny the benefits art gives humanity, just like education, and I believe every human should be free to pursuit and achieve consuming and learning from it as much as possible.
>>749707273Your standards must be in the gutter if you think cake tastes anything like Indian slop
>>749707214Strange how there hasn't been a "factory produced" label on every packaged food item for the last 70 years? We've been getting tricked
>>749699254>>749700802>>749707138You forget, good always triumphs over evil in the end.We're simply in the bad times right now.
>>749707343Your standards must be in the gutter if you need numerous unwashed hands touching your food before you eat it
>>749689052>>749689114Ah, and here's where we play Schrodinger's shitpost, where any game possible is not shit, until mentioned, at which point anon chooses to say it's shit in order to save face from being wrong.
>>749696570You just made up an argument in your head by an imaginary person
>>749707334There are far more pressing ways humanity needs help than free art, but it doesn't matter because there's no end to the free art out there
>>749688016What game faggot>u-um uh, e-expedition-Nope, placeholder textures that they then replaced doesnt remotely make it an "AI game" and you know that. So wheres the fucking AI game retard?
I made this cake.
>>749704216For some reason, you need to go to the chinese side of internet to actually see good AI's outputsAll westoid's usage of AI are full of slop despite having much better frontier models
>>749688016AI needs to be used to unfuck games rather than make them.
>>749707397>“Pirates are evil? The Marines are righteous? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history! Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground! Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice!”
>>749707407You must live in a real shithole if you think it's normal to make food without washing your hands
>>749704216>Where are all these great and fun games made with AI anon?Let me answer your question with another question. Where were you when Will Smith eating spaghetti first appeared, and what were you saying about AI at that time?
>>749707397It is said that when the world loses sight of the truth, an avatar of Vishnu will incarnate on the earth to restore order to things and bring man back into alignment with the Dharma.
ChatGPT please fuck my wife and make no mistakes, checkmate libtards.
>>749693420>Fuck everyone who's "better" than me, you're all worth shit now and there's nothing you can do about it, suck my assthey're still better than you, it doesn't matter if you can generate mediocre art, the type of person you are means you will always be inferior to those around youtry fixing your mindset instead of attacking others
>>749707532So you're just going to keep kicking the can down the road? One day I'll make something good, probably
>>749707605The ones attacking first are the anti AI traditional artists
>>749707478>there's no end to the free art out thereI completely agree with you there. However not all art is equal, it's value is subjective to every viewer out there. Moreover, some art has a secondary value related to how badly the consumer wants to pursuit indulging in it. I have been forced to read A Catcher in the Rye and I loathed it, even though there is merit to take from the book I found it uninteresting and loathsome. This does not mean it's without merit, just that it wasn't for me. Or maybe it could be, but I wouldn't know. You can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink, pearls before swine, etc.
>>749707654If we made progress this far, why the FUCK do you think we're going to stop at this exact moment?
>>749707605>>749693420>better Interesting word choice.
>>749707654Why did you ignore the post about an example of a successful AI game on steam?Here is another one
>>749706972>>749707047Yeah and those are considered cheap and low quality, most people would not get those if they had better options. AI isn't the devil but at this point it's just indicative of low quality stuff that's usually overpriced because the "devs" want to get full price profits.
>>749688207Why cant jeets stop thinking about shit eating?
>>749707516Machines are just Math.Math is the language of the Universe, and thus the language of God.And God always wins.Because Math is the truth.>>749707553I want Vishnu to jerk me off.They look like they have soft hands.
Name five cases of this happening Note: old fashioned non llm AI tools and automation are excluded
>>749707721Why is progress such a big deal? Technology advances everywhere. You don't see me trying to sell you a flying car. You don't need to keep saying it will improve. We've been hearing that since Will Smith merged with his first plate of spaghetti
Is there a guide for machine translating jrpgs? Like recommended actions like building a glossary so terms are consistent, not translating line by line to understand context, etc..
>>749690435So....in other words....your opinion on the cake is that it's still good even if AI made it?Gee, thanks for the input Mr Wizard.
>>749707867Math is just as subjected to the tower of babble as languages are. Degrees and radians are two different perspectives of the same concept. An AI can spit out proofs to insane incomprehensible numbers "simply" despite man wishing to develop theorems that puts things to a scale and perspective that is much more comprehensibly quantifiable. It's one the world's greatest ironies.
>>749707949Googl... I mean ask chatgpt dazed tl tool
>>749707832No they aren't, literally 99% of packaged food in supermarkets are mass produced by machines in factories
>>749708002some people need all that to get it.
>>749707530What are some examples of countries that haven't imported the 3rd world over the last 30 years?
So where are the AI games? I don't mean cheap asset flip tier ones
>>749708023>rpgmaker json fileseh..
>>749708070Why do you keep ignoring my posts?>>749707764>>749707485
>>749688243>doesn't pirate itThis junior rebels against the heavens, but follows the mountains whims. TLDR. You eunuch.
>>749707681i don't care man, the longer you keep acting like your self worth is based on whether or not you can create something the same quality as someone else, the longer you'll stagnate as a personI say this outside of AI and everything else, i'm reaching out to you as an artist to someone who probably wants to also create, idc if you use AI to do it or not but you need to not put so much weight on yourself
>>749707867Machines are perfect math. The universe is chaos, dissonance, chance. Things machines exist to eliminate.
>>749708069I don't know but they're not usually exempt from their host's hygiene standards
>>749708110>the longer you keep acting like your self worth is based on whether or not you can create something the same quality as someone else, the longer you'll stagnate as a personI'm not the original angry guy, actually. I was just chiming in with a fact>i'm reaching out to you as an artistI am too. A traditional human artist
>>749708136>Machines are perfect mathNTA but this sentence feels like coming from a midwit watching too much sci-fi movies and doesnt know some of industry standard even mean
>>749708225>hygiene standards3rd worlders literally don't understand this phrase
If aifags stop seething all the time nobody would care about them
>>749688530Why is AI increasingly a sign of being right-affective politically? Trannies and leftoids have established a moral taboo against it, but even the deepest in the dissident right have to hand it to crappy AI slop videos.Sure, you can be right wing and despise AI, but the tendency is clearly emergent and observable, and I want to know what it's self-sorting like that.
>>749688138Every game that you have considered fun since 2022.
>>749708028And those come with an improvement to price and convenience in exchange. Price I already mentioned and AI vidya doesn't really come with a convenience benefit unless you're the one making it for yourself, and in fact is often more buggy with "devs" that dont know how to actually fix it and can only ask AI again.
>>749708310And the ones that don't aren't allowed to sell food
>>749688016>NOOOOO mcdonalds used a grill machine to cook my burger>NOOOOO mum used a microwave machine to cook my tendies>NOOOOO the farmer used a combine harvester machine to harvest the wheat for my breadLuddites must be insufferable to live with
>>749707218but in this analogy you JUST said you enjoyed itso you eat a piece of cake assuming it's homemade, said it's good, learned it's factory made cake, and now it's garbage and you suddenly have standards
>>749708449Imagine believing this hahahaha
>>749708457>what do you MEAN my McDonald's hamburger isn't the meat from one cow?
>>749708350The only thing observable is shills calling people tranny with nothing to back it up other than a misleading survey
making a 100% finished product with a single prompt is a retarded pipedream. when people say "devs are using ai" they mean devs are using ai to speed up tedious bullshitheres something i just used ai for>download free car model pack>import into unity>textures and materials are broken>see everything is named truck_15.fbx, truck_15_albedo.jpg, truck_15.material, etc>could manually fix everything by manually making materials and assigning them>probably would take an hour>instead tell claude code to write a script that makes and assigns materials based on the filename of meshes/materials/textures >fixed instantly pic related is all the scripts i used claude for lol
Rape all Anti-AI and anti-anti-AI fags
>>749708457>NOOOOO the farmer used a combine harvester machine to harvest the wheat for my breadThere’s nothing wrong with wanting your wheat picked by whipped african hands instead of “machines.”
>>749690036>Reminder that you CANNOT be anti-AI and pro-piracyAnti-AI japs think like that lmao
OP discovers the concept of ethics and principles what will he learn about next!?
>>749708512Oh wow, it really is normal for you. I'm sorry, I hope you can move somewhere better one day
>>749708457if mom cooked my tendies in the microwave i would puke and beat her immediately. and in the court of law afterwards, i would be acquitted of my crime via jury nullification.
>>749708475Maybe I don't want that artificial sweetener shit in my body. But it's all about the taste for you, isn't it. The cake tastes good. The picture has pretty colors. The song follows musical conventions. The tiktok of Mario skateboarding in Racoon City made me laugh. Nothing else matters
>>749708957>learn artificial sweetener is in cake>violently throw up everywhere and say it was actually nasty the whole time>because I have standards :)ok anon
>>749709027>have sex with woman >later find out she has a penis >violently throw up
>>749688207>nonsense food analogy
>>749708350because either manipulative people or useful idiots are making something partisan yet again.
>>749709069>eating a cake with artificial sweetener is EXACTLY like having sex with men, actually(You)
>>749709027that shit is horrifically bad for your gut biome and would make me want to puke whether I knew or not.fun fact your gut biome's health is linked directly to your mental health so said artificial sweeteners also turn you retarded and gay (just like AI)
>>749688310k, pay us back everything we've done for you.
>>749709209That's what taxes are
>>749708620>Reminder that you CANNOT be pro-piracyJaps think like that
>>749688207the issue with this is that the AI isn't antithetical to code the way shit is antithetical to food. Say it's gay and slop all you'd like, it's still code.A better example would be like "I added wasabi to your cake" because that'd be weird and nonsensical, but still food. But the issue is, if the AI put wasabi in there for some reason and you liked it, that's still a you issue.
>>749709269No, if you're a foreigner pay back what we've given you. If you're an american, please leave.
>>749708646It's normal for you too, you just chose not to believe it lmao
>>749709192>saying actually this sucks is EXACTLY like violently throwing up, actually (You too)
>>749709209Like what?
>>749709325>If you're an american, please leaveOh no am I endangering your safe space?
Once again I am asking for the full aaa level ai games that exist
>>749709438Making games takes time
>>749708351I can count on one hand the amount of games I've played that have released since 2020
>>749707484I would feel like a retard reading this even back in the day
>>749696738uh ur not allowed to be reasonable?
>>749709341I think you have autism
>>749708350leftists tend to be artists and fear technology
>>749709428You said you hate it here and china is better, so please, leave. We will both be happier!
>>749709530I’m a high IQ aspie not a retarded person that gets grouped with superior individuals out of pity.
>>749709352yeah retard, the picture and analogy we're talking about has the dude violently throwing up. Now can you point to where the gay sex somehow came in?
>>749709438ai can code but it still sucks at 3d modeling, animating, and general game design
>>749709278They also think that SJW is killing video games but you shouldn't use this as an excuse to support modding/piracy/AI>>749708350>>749708350>Sure, you can be right wing and despise AI, but the tendency is clearly emergent and observable, and I want to know what it's self-sorting like that.On JP Twitter there's a sizable number of anti-woke right-wing accounts that retweet anti-AI shitbased on my observation
mankind is not meant to do anything but propagate and multiply ourselves, like any organism. We are therefor at our peak in leisure, having achieved contentment with a meal and relaxing. Jobs are a necessary evil, but AI gives the power for the individual to do whatever they want with whatever they want. It's less commitment for the end result. See, this is where AI is not so different than not using AI- a product will have a proportional quality to the time that went into it. >OK, but will it be good?Ask the dude behind the wheel. His opinion is the only one that matters. It was made for him to begin with.
>>749688138there won't be a single game in 2027 that was not coded with AI
>>749709994>our peak in leisure, having achieved contentment with a meal and relaxingWe could have achieved this in the 1800s with african slaves if Lincoln wasn’t a hysterical retard. I can’t command grok to physically make me an orange juice or reenact scenes from hamlet for my entertainment.
>>749688016After vomiting he then proceeds to chop off his own dick and hang himself.
>>749710206Then we have failed those Africans because they will never be granted leisure, and having slaves didn't magically make the poor free men entriched. Cmon now
>>749709656I know what picture you're talking about, but I'm not here to defend your strawman. I don't see anyone violently throwing up over your generic anime girls
>>749710395>Then we have failed those Africans because they will never be granted leisureanon we have destroyed our society trying to give them more leisure than any of us get.
>>749710395In order for some niggas to be free, other niggas have to be enslaved. When I command a nigga to make me an orange juice and he doesn’t do, they are violating my freedom and leisure by making me make it instead.
>>749710550And yet they still want trillions for their ancestors being enslaved.
>>749709282>if the AI put wasabi in there for some reason and you liked it, that's still a you issue.The concept of introspection is foreign to the mouth breathers that have decided hating AI is their entire personality. You could show them something that they’ll decide is spectacular enough to enjoy to the point of spending years obsessing over it, but if you tell them after all those years that AI is involved they’ll twist themselves into knots trying to make themselves hate it and telling everyone that they either never liked it or they feel like they’ve somehow been cheated. At no point will they ever pause to wonder if maybe shitting themselves over something they enjoyed is unhealthy.
>>749688016Yeah that's what happens when you get food poisoning.
>>749710206>I can’t command grok to physically make me an orange juice or reenact scenes from hamlet for my entertainment.Yeah but grok isn’t going to poison your orange juice or stab you in your sleep to escape.
>>749710584there's more than one way to skin a cat, anon. We can make robots, like AI do it. Now we just need to stop companies from wanting to scan our cocks and keep our credit cards on file just to use the orange squeezing function that the juicer came preinstalled with.
It's like, when you buy a pizza, right? you have the pizza and the peperoni and the cheese but imagine if the sauce wasn't really a sauce and it was like a weird imitation sauce, but the sauce is still supposed to be sauce and it tastes like sauce and the thing is still a pizza but then what about the peperoni?
>>749688016>implying anyone would confuse a mass produced cake with a handmade one
>>749707397>good triumphs over evil in the endwhy are we groomed like this
>>749688607Optimized by AI?
>>749708351so none then, got it
>>749699657>don't support x>find out thing was made with x>don't support thing>eerrmm, you just arbitrarily decided that!?!?why yes, jeet, i did
>>749688016>buy something advertised as bespoke and hand crafted>it was actually just mass produced by a machinewe have a name for this, it’s called a scam
>>749693420glad to be better than you, lmaoeven gladder to know when we're both dead i'll still have better than you by your own admission
>>749688016>Eat delicious chili>Find out it was cooked with human meat>Noooooooo, I have to hate it nowThis is how you AI haters sound
>>749689114Apologies, you are right to call that out! I entirely made it up. I hallucinated it.Would you like to generate sonic porn next to destress, or would you prefer a basedjack making fun of me?
>>749711901>parent analogy
>>749711901>chilli made from your parentsCartman is something else
>>749699657>arbitrarily decide product sucks now because it’s made with AII’m interested in games made by humans, sorry. You took the shortcut and outsourced your intelligence to the machine. Having that knowledge, why am I supposed to care what you “made”?
>>749688207>food analogy
I'm making an entire wiki for my favorite large vidya series using AI and it's helped me learn more about the series than I have in years worth of unoriginal conversations with that series' fans. I can finally view my favorite models or translate content from japanese to English without relying on a trannoid.
>>749688016The way GPTimage arranges high frequency particles is always uncanny.
>>749698025Considering rat poison is laced with emetics, this makes no sense...
>>749688016>BTW I shit in the cakewhats the problem here?
>>749699657Let's take art for example. AI art can look nice, sure. But a lot of things look nice. Looking nice isn't something to write home about. I don't even do digital art, it's kind of like comparing a touch screen to buttons. I hate the disconnect between cause and effect. But digital art still looks nice, and I can at least appreciate the skill that created it. I can see the motions the artist made. How steady their hand was. The intricacy of the details. After watching speed paint videos I can see the dozens of layers of brush strokes it took to get the shading just right. I see AI art and I see nice looking. I can see some aspects that went into the prompt. A location, some character traits, positions, but if there's anything appreciable in the writing I don't have the ability to see it
>>Play fun gameInspectorChalmersWithAFlowePortraitAndAnOpenDoorBehindHim.jpg
>>749709618>You said you hate it hereIs this that famous "zoomer reading comprehension" i've heard so much about?
>>749688016The image doesnt make sense. AI would just steal the recipe from someone else, and thats basically Google.>video gamesIf someone used AI for video games, I have a right to know beforehand. I shouldn't have to pay the same price for something that took less work. Of course I wouldn't pay at all anyway because AI is all slop.
>>749699657Yeah thats why "Made in China" tags exist.
>>749713070The labor theory of value was refuted. Just because you work really hard on something doesn’t mean it’s worth a lot of money, and conversely just because you didn’t work very hard on something doesn’t mean it’s worth less.
>you stole the recipe!
>>749713175Value comes from what one is willing to pay. That value for many is very different based on disclosure of how something was actually made. If people know something was made with hard work that took a long time, they are willing to pay more for it. Simple as.
>>749713175Not how it works. Your AI slop will be worthless once it all has a tag.
>>749688016>Ahh, that was perfectSaid nobody with a three-digit IQ about anything made with AI
>>749713426>people know something was made with hard work that took a long time, they are willing to pay more for it.If you found out your sweater was made in a chinese sweatshop under grueling conditions, would you pay more for it?
>>749713070>>749713426>>749713518every ball and gun normalnigger totally cares about the ethics of video game development and will vote with their wallet to end aiLMFAO
>>749713804They already do.
>>749713920good luck champ
>>749713804>w-well, normies and gun-n-ball gamers will prove me right, hmpf!is this supposed to congratiate us with your plight, anon? do you know where you are?
>>749713697No, I would probably boycott it entirely and it would be easy to do so if everything was transparent. But this is a completely different discussion. You are talking about something people buy for utility sake versus art and entertainment. The latter of which being made by a machine defeats the point entirely.>>749713804Cattle aren’t going to give a fuck how the sausage is made. They are true goyim. But thinking people who understand the creative process are absolutely going to care.
>>749688016I've literally seen people do this with AI music and pictures. Just completely flipping their opinions>ah bro this song slaps>yeah I just prompted it in Suno>oh, AI slop... :(Not games, yet
>>749713175Then why are Ferraris so expensive?
>>749688530That image represents something I actually hate, midwits who make up a strawman, viciously beat up that strawman verbally, and act as if that strawman was (you).IN AN ANONYMOUS IMAGEBOARDBro, that shows such a profound lack of ability to debate without using ad hominem, to the point that if you don't know ANYTHING about the person you're talking to, so you can't attack his life, appearance, or achievements, you need to invent a pitiful character, and say that someone you've invented is the person you're dissing 17 lines trashtalking someone he made up in his mind, because he doesn't have enough info to ad hominem the actual personIt is the lowest level of discussion I have ever seen, maybe the lowest level of discussion to ever exist. Something you can only see in anonymous spaces, a true highlight of human stupidity
>>749713804Don't look up people's reaction to black ops 7's ai usage
>>749714000people who understand the creative process understand certain elements of the process are tedious and gay. using computers to automate tedious bullcrap is amazing. skipping the entire process is gay. anti-ai faggots cant understand the difference
>>749714086>this song slaps. What's the band called, I need more of themHow do you answer without disappointing them?
>>749714264I'd probably say one of Jez and Super Hans' band names from Peep Show>Danny Dyer's Chocolate Homunculus
>>749714000>You are talking about something people buy for utility sake versus art and entertainment. If someone works really hard on an art piece, it doesn’t mean it’s worth more than the banana taped to a wall. If you meme something enough and people believe that’s how much it costs, then that’s how much it costs. The amount of work involved has nothing to do with it.
>>749708350Rightoids have never been artistic or creative so naturally they have no reason to care about art.
>>749702642Yeah, whoever wrote that has it wrong. It's specifically two kinds of people that fit: the "loser" kids who never really did anything at all in school (no hobbies or aspirations), and the trashy jocks who could never amount to anything more than bullying. Both people who lack any kind of talent and scoffed at people trying their hardest at whatever they were passionate about.
>>749714170You just described OP
>>749712784There are some generations that I would call genuine "AI Art", but it seems to only happen when the prompt/diffusion goes wrong and you see whatever weird underlying structure the AI was creating before giving up; which is harder to get these days.
>>749714340>get a message a day later>bro I tried finding that band you showed me and nothing turned up. Can I get the name again?
>>749714261using computers to automate processes by means of human ingenuity and pattern recognition and implementation is one thing. offloading that process, even if it is tedious, to the magic thinking box is another.the longer and more labor something takes, the more the artist is going to question the worth of their idea and refine it or even question to themselves if it is really worth pursuing in the first place. this is a natural gatekeeping process that keeps the bar high. taking shortcuts helps no one. using premade engines for example, has lowered the barrier while simultaneously providing extremely few, if any games that actually stand next to the greats. this just opens the flood gates further. we are seeing stupid novelties that no one actually fucking cares about just because the labor required would have been absurd and no one would have been stupid enough to waste their time on something so pointless. that is no longer the case
>>749714621>Curse These Metal Hands
>>749714623>using premade engines for example, has lowered the barrier while simultaneously providing extremely few, if any games that actually stand next to the greatslmfao
>>749714356Yet you love to discredit the banana taped to a wall because it's just a banana taped to a wall
>>749714643>Whatever bro if you didn't want me to know you could've just said. Enjoy being a hipster
>>749714356>If someone works really hard on an art piece, it doesn’t mean it’s worth more than the banana taped to a wallfor any person that actually understands a craft, the time spent on something and the skill involved to produce the output means literally everything. the second you say “a machine made this”, the person who cares about the craft will immediately see no/little intrinsic value in it. to the goycattle, it doesn’t matter that the music or the movie or whatever is AI generated, they’re just there to laugh and clap like seals
>>749714261Depends on what you're talking about. I've seen plenty of AI fags talk like this and then I find out theyre generating artwork, models, etc for their game.
>>749714658it’s completely true. accessibility, corporatization and leftist infiltration are all reasons modern games suck, but I think accessibility in particular is the biggest reason
>>749708350AI cannot ever create anything new, and only create whatever already exists. It's a pretty conservative piece of tech by nature.
>>749714086I love that this response is so automatic and promptniggers are completely baffled by it
>Ai is taking peoples jobs and people who had any iota of ability in computers wont find job.>Next. Ai servers, alongside Trump's tariffs now made manufacturers up the shit out of prices of ram and HDD storage, making impossible for people to repair computers.>Now Ai is ruining the potential to have native fully moddable pc game ports of games that exclusively were made on carts.Ai is literally ruining every single aspect of the average person's lives.
>>749714723>Sorry bro, I think it was "13 Bastards"
>>749714992don't worry bro, when all jobs are gone because of AI and the average person can no longer afford to pay for anything, the government will surely implement UBI and the corporations will fully support directly paying themselves with their own money>this is what AI shills unironically believe
>>749714086Are you surprised that people have morals?
>>749715140That's not morals, that's an ideologyThey liked it before they found out the origin, then decided they didn't like itNothing actually changed about the song
>>749688207holy scat, no way this fecaloid faggot is still using his literal shit eating analogy kek
>>749715213people appreciate art because it is made by a person trying to communicate an idea. just because they can be tricked doesn’t change anything. you can be tricked into accepting a counterfeit bill, that doesn’t mean the actual value of money had changed. you just got scammed
>>749688774>>749688590>>749688478smoothjak was a very popular meme for a while, it's true>>749693420I understand the purpose of those heart pasties.
>>749715121I for one welcome the cyberpunk future and coffin apartments and samurai girlfriends.
>ai is helping people crack consoles like the ps5 recently>ai is helping people make mashups of old games>ai is making new gamesso guys now that pandora's box is open who wins in a fight? the entire video game industry or the entire ai industry? a lot of the big ones do both right i'm pretty certain rich fucks are going to want to keep pushing ai over caring about consoles now
>>749709530sally knows annie is a thieving bitch and notices the ball bulge is not there
>>749715391>ai is helping people steal games made by humans>ai is making abominations of games made by humans>ai cant make anything newftfy
>>749715317Yeah but AI is a tool for that as wellBut that's not the issue, the issue is basically people going:>this is good. oh, a robot made it? this is suddenly not good.
>>749715471>ai is getting troons fired and making them ropebased
>>749715386Sorry, you're getting the gay ass future instead where nothing changes except jobs are even harder to find and companies are trying even harder to sell you literal slop. And the AI companies hitting the woke switch the instant the Dems get elected.
>>749688207This is literally what "food science" is btw. YOU ARE BEING POISONED
>>749715472AI is hoping nobody notices the turd in the punch bowl, fighting against being required to notify anyone of the turd in the punch bowl, and trying to proudly own the turd in the punch bowl if caught and playing it off or feigning ignorance are not options
>>749715472it’s not a tool though, it is outsourcing human thoughtit’s more like>oh this is good. oh a robot made it? well, how could I possibly care about it now?
>>749715472>the issue is basically people going:>>this is good. oh, a robot made it? this is suddenly not good.nta but literally most of the seething, at least definitely outside of here is just fucking troons, here okay maybe there's some retard autists really mad about some dev they liked being the first to slop their shit up but everywhere else? literally no one gives a fuck besides seething troons
>>749715550don’t forget pretending to have worked really, really hard on the sloppa
>>749715635>don’t forget pretending to have worked really, really hard on the sloppabut enough about troon devs who spend more time thinking about pride flags than gameplay
>>749715472>this is good>remember AI datacenters >remember ugly AI slop art at every restaurant I go to>remember the cost of all my PC parts>remember Indians exist>this is bad
>>749715635>"I worked really, really hard on that turd. It wasn't easy pushing it out, you know. I had to like, squat and stuff."
>>749715735are you this upset about being called out as a lying leech?
>>749715735yeah dude like you haven't been pissing and moaning about troons being the ones to hate slop, now actually it's them who love the slop and use it all the time
>>749715763
>>749715793>liberal pretends to not understandyou called ai slop nigger, if ai is slop then i'm calling everything your retard faggot commies shit out absolute fucking dogshit
>>749715213Yeah well guess what. Ride by Lostprophets didn't change but I can't listen to it anymore
>>749715873Why's that? Did you mom take away your iPod
>>749715391Whoever wins, we lose
>>749715869leftists certainly ruined the industry, but you will always be a talentless loser
>>749715869Surprised the Yandex datacenter attacks didn't nix your internet access
>>749714992>>Ai is taking peoples jobs and people who had any iota of ability in computers wont find job.>>Next. Ai servers, alongside Trump's tariffs now made manufacturers up the shit out of prices of ram and HDD storage, making impossible for people to repair computers.>>Now Ai is ruining the potential to have native fully moddable pc game ports of games that exclusively were made on carts.okay so explain to me why you faggots want to import all those jeets and niggers then HMM?seems to me jeets and NIGGERS do a lot more harm than ai
>>749715942>but you will always be a talentless loserbut enough about troon """artists"""
>>749713426Look, I'm all for free market notions of having the ability as the purchaser to say no and to reject bad deals, but I also think that you on an individual level are overvaluing the tedium of the artistic process. Undertale is both graphically rudimentary but detailed. If someone found a way to automate that process of the artstyle I would still be able to both appreciate if effort was made into the smoothness of presentation and robust background mechanics and attention to detail.A shitty made sweater has material that scratches your skin, threads come apart easily, colors fade after a simple wash, whathave you. The notion is that designer and big brands have earned trust with quality for affordability OR supreme quality at the cost of being expensive, but every day companies are betraying that cost-value ratio with enshitfication, shrinkflation, cheapening ingredients, and going back on principles that earned them the customer basis that they once had. Why do we care about this? Not because of some arbitrary "this product cost less to make, ergo I'm being cheated", it's because of how those shortcuts affect the end product's quality. If a Fossil leather wallet suddenly was as flimsy or fragile as a $8 Walmart wallet, why the fuck am I paying $40 for it when I could just go to Walmart and pay 20% of that for the same? I'm saying all of that to say hating the technique or application of AI in a game regardless of its quality is cart before horse logic. If AI users are being lazy and make bad games, well fuck let the game speak for itself and then judge it, maybe keep an eye out for an individual dev who releases buggy slop, but hating the tool and not the product is judging a book by its cover.
>>749715391It depends on how much the government cares about the consumers to step in and do something about it. (they won't)
>>749715965your brain is so incapable of nuance you think a random poster on fucking /v/ of all places is in favor of importing hordes of brown people because they don’t like AIyou are a low IQ, broken person
>>749716002the tool is invariably used to make crap
>>749716028piracy has been a thing on pc forever and people still buy games on steam, pc is fine, consoles are fucked because sony doubled down on saying fuck you to their customers and xbox isn't even in the console wars, they're basically a netflix competitor, most of their players probably just play gamepass
>>749716031no i'm calling you out for being a falseflagging troon you stupid fucking nigger kill yourself and fuck off back to bluesky, i'll fucking say it again>no teens got mad about how evil chatgpt was>everyone still uses google>everyone still uses phonesonly you faggot troons give a fuck about ai
>>749715869thats cool brother, still not gonna be buying your slop thooooooooo <33333333
>>749716002The tool has lowered the bar significantly. Consumer standards are dropping and with it industry standards. You think there's a point where consumers will say no more but it's not a matter of how low they'll go. It's just a matter of how fast you can ease them into it
>>749716162>buyingYou dont seem to understand no one will be buying anything. You ever pay for a flash game?
>>749716162>still not gonna be buying your slop thooooooooobut ENOUGH about troon games
>>749716002I hate the tool because it is antithetical to the concept of art, it is ruining everyone’s quality of life, dissuading people from wanting to work hard and do a good job and its main application so far is just scams, piracy and pointless novelty. If you automate away all the high skill crafts necessary to make a video game, there is literally nothing left to care about. The better it gets the more pointless video games become as a category. It is fundamentally impossible for me to care about what you typed into a prompt, you may as well be telling me about the dream you had last night.
>>749715993Yeah I'll take AI over this any day
>>749716187Then why do you keep pointing out AAA studios when people ask for the good AI games? Where are the good games made by the guy in his basement?
>>749689725i didn't laugh, i didn't throw up, but i didnt laugh
>>749716225Why? if a friend spins up a slop game and we have 10 hours of fun i dont care about the effort. or if i tweak a game i used to love to fix that stupid fucking issue and go have 15 hours of fun why do i care about human effort? How much effort do you think a 4chan post takes? >hard workdo you know what a hobby is? you get no money or praise from it you do it because you want to sometimes you dont even share it can you understand that concept? Have you ever played a single player game and not talked about it?
>>749716314i wish i still had that really old gross art that was troon style disabled danganronpa girls and they all had like skin conditions and cleft lips and all that nasty shit, yeah i'll definitely take ai over that
>>749716343congratulations on being the exact target market for AI anon, a retard who doesn't care about anything but Product>do you know what a hobby is? you get no money or praise from it you do it because you want to sometimes you dont even share it can you understand that concept?swing this own dumb-shit line of questioning back around to the entertainment and creative sectors that AI is trying to entrench itself intowhy is AI in hobby spheres
>>749716343What you and your friend do in the privacy of your bedroom is no concern of mine
>>749716225What are you going to do in the future? Stop posting here perhaps?
>>749716343>if a friend spins up a slop game and we have 10 hours of fun i dont care about the effort.especially if the alternative is some full priced slop made by troons that's full of niggers and plays like shit
>>749716165I saw no standard with consumers before AI with microtransaction lootbox sequel games that failed to actually do anything new like with NBA2k, Madden, or Call of Duty, yet those are massive grossing franchises because troglodytes have no eye to discern. It's easy to see the worst applications of the tool being used to streamline this shite even sooner, but that's like comparing hunting weapons to mass shooters in the discussion of rifle usage. Guns don't kill people, the one who pulled the trigger did. AI doesn't make a bad game, the one who prompted and published without any effort or actual input made a bad game. >>749716225I have no desire to challenge or change your mantra of art. I also just think you could benifite from seeing the forest for the trees a bit more. I want to play videogames because they feel fun to play, to mechanically make things happen whether I am jumping on blocks in a platformer or building a playground in a management/tycoon sim. If the game is fun to play, that is the main purpose and goal games should have, that is my mantra. Now if the Communist Party of China crushed 500 children into a blender and used their blood to fuel the best videogame ever, I could still have qualms with its existence and refuse to buy or play it while still at least acknowledging it's fun. Credit where credit is due, call a spade a spade.
>>749716324>Where are the good games made by the guy in his basement?There are none AI just got to modding level good games about ps2 tier are maybe next summer i wont lie.
>>749688530the ranny allegory is so accurate, they know art is also evaluated by your skill to realise your ideas with your own mind and muscles, and they need to surpress that form of admiration
>>749716397>congratulations on being the exact target market for AI anon, a retard who doesn't care about anything but ProductYes the result and my expierence are what i care about. The internet is not real and might as well not exist i dont know you you are what you can do and thats it. maybe if you were a friend and not a anon/website/business/corporation i would care. If a large business disappears and my qol goes up its a good thing i dont care about the specialist who are out of work. only those i know and am around matter.>why is AI in hobby spheres.Easier start or allows people to do thing without prerequisite. there are still people who do it by hand and it doesnt stop them. People still paint despite cameras.>>749716454>especially if the alternative is some full priced slop made by troons that's full of niggers and plays like shitExactly my friends stupid idea is much more likely to be fun than some random company and its cheaper
>>749716532the tranny allegory was an equally dim-witted anon thinking "YWNBAW" is the summit of comedy while it sails over his head he also likes homogeneous mush, just if it makes him feel superior to some man-freak somewhere
>>749714753But you're retarded though because it's not 'a machine made this' or else every person on earth would be able to use AI at the same level of efficacy. The fact you think 'a machine made this' means you don't understand AI and have no desire to learn how it could help you. You will lose to people who do.
Getting so fucking bored of the endless AI apologia threads being astroturfed all over v day in day out. We get it, you like playing recompiles, and you like the theoretical idea of good wholecloth ai games that don't exist yet but totally will someday if you suck enough techbro cock. Sure. Have fun with that, alone, in your crypto rugpull discords or wherever you fuckers hang, and leave us to talk about the actual games in peace.
>>749716615Im going to AI the video game you talk about and post it. then i will post idelincremental slop i generated in html
>>749716570>Easier start or allows people to do thing without prerequisite. So it lets people not do the hobby.I think you get it but you're too concerned with playing devil's-advocate. Nobody wants this shit in hobby spheres, dude. Why would you want a machine to do your hobby for you? You said yourself people enjoy doing shit. This new guy enjoys prompting and larping as a guy who does shit. He is an outsider and I am going to crucify him and drink his bitch-made tears when he complains he's being gatekept.
>>749693420absolutely based fuck the world
Trannies don't like AI?
>>749713518funny how it needs a scarlet letter for people to think it's bad. That level of groupthink without logic is what the /v/ I know (aka not here) clowns on.
>>749716615>don't hate AI? You must LOVE IT thenYou sound like my Communist exNah, it's just a tool. It's like people complaining about how shovels take the "soul" out of digging on your hands and knees
>>749716598>or else every person on earth would be able to use AI at the same level of efficacy.People that think there's skill levels to AI use are either mind-numbingly stupid or trying to justify their use of the slop machine. They are, after all, using the slop machine in place of a traditionally learned skill.
>>749716669>he's being gatekept.I will give you that one gatekeeping is based. Hobby spheres will divide into results and effort i guess
>>749716570What happened to this place where shitting on casuals gets you walls of text like this?
>>749688016Anti-AI fags are the same type of people who told Jews it was okay to charge thousands of dollars for rocks.
>>749716714Shovels don't literally dig for me, jackass
>>749716689i don't get it what's the issue with the picturethe only thing i can think of is the troon is having a melty because the e looks like a g if you're legally blind
>>749714264"Sorry, I'm not sure."Oh, but how did you"Someone sent it to me" or "hm, I don't really remember."They will never care about the story of an artist they have never heard and won't hear about, they only get offended when they realize there is no depth
>>749716734>hobby>resultsWhat the fuck is wrong with you?
>>749715317then why did they like the song the first time?>>749715213it's the art vs artist debate all over again. At least I'm staying consistent, I can appreciate art and separate it from the artist.
>>749716775You're too stupid to get it.
People who mindlessly hate AI confuse the chatbots like chatgpt with actual computer assisted software that has been in almost every industry since the 80's.
>>749705652it's the effort that connects people and attracts them to art of others, the idea of knowing their time was put into 'arete' and 'praxis'. talent is not need bte, illustrating is literally just understanding fundamental rules and coordination between your eyes, your arm muscles and your knowledge of the subject. it's about rising above being an ape
>>749714261my irl art friend, who does commissions with his drawing tablets, uses texture stamp tools for textures and backgrounds. What say you there? No true Scottsman? Or is that acceptable? Is the gradient tool ok to use?
>>749716714That type of shit I totally get, don't get me wrong. You just have to be obsessed with AI to be making three threads a day all titled "Claude saved the industry, you're welcome ;D" or complaining to the void about ai haters just to stir shit and advertise. Those are the threads I'm sick of.
>>749716889>duhhhh is a tool acceptableye>duhhhh da plagiarism engine dat does it FOR me is a tool denno it's nothope this helps
>>749716875>it's about rising above being an apeI wish to reverse and return to the ocean
>>749712784I call a genuine piece of beautiful geography art of nature.
>>749716669>So it lets people not do the hobby.this retarded troon is trying to argue like the average gamer, here or otherwise, engages in game devthe hobby is playing games not making games
>>749716926>argue like the average gamer, here or otherwise, engages in game devThis is so far removed from what's being talked about that it's not in the same solar system.
>>749716915we don't post our selfies here
>>749715831chuckle'd
>>749716592funny how we fundamentally differ in interpretation, he just wanted to clarify what he meant by the disdain and self-mystification
>>749688138fpbp
>>749716532been saying the hyper-AI fags have been basically the tech equivalent of trannies for a while now, the overlap is insane
should i argue against AI and get (You)'s from that type of retard or argue for AI and get (You)'s from the other type of retard?
>>749716947i accept your concession, you're bitching about ai getting involved in hobbies but last i checked ai isn't going to replace my ability to play gamesgo back to your safe space faggot
>>749716915the amount of "plagerism" an AI commits with its training data is the same "plagerism" any of us have committed when studying and learning styles and strokes from those who came before us. Have you vetted your art textbooks to make sure those artists signed off on being published by McGraw Hill or to be sold on Barnes and Noble shelves?
>>749717069Surprised you could pull your own cock away from your lips for long enough to bubble out you "accepted a concession"
>>749717013that young lad would be using chatgpt right now without a care in the world, troons know this and it makes them seethe
>>749716917evolution isnt that fast, but start planting your seed on Maledives, maybe in couple of millenia...
>>749717013pull the mixed race card- most something vaguely in the middleground but say it charged enough to trigger both sides for double the butthurt
>>749717081>the amount of "plagerism" an AI commits with its training data is the same "plagerism" any of us have committed when studying and learning styles "References are plagiarism" is a dumb-shit argument parroted in artist circles for a good century or two now and it has no bearing whatsoever on how neural-networks and training data works
>>749717096>Surprised you could pull your own cock away from your lipsas if you being a troon wasn't obvious enough faggot
>>749688016Good morning sir, stop imagining things that don't happen. It'll distract you from targets on the train.
>>749717148better stop inhaling air anon i hear troons do that
>>749717167Targets, on the train?
>>749688207truth nuclear bomb(trvke)
>>749688016I really like what Claude can do but trusting large scale AI code never sits right.
>>749717181yeah nice one so why do you still use google if you're anti ai troon, why do you still own a phone if you're anti ai troon, hm? guess you're not really anti ai nigger
>>749717269dude's blue-screening IRL
Im going to use claude on a swf file so the final boss and stage in castaway flash game actually fucking works or was that number 2 that didnt work
>>749717269We should improve society somewhat
>>749712669or it wasn't laced with emetics, tard
>>749717295>>749717342>couldn't even just pretend like you stopped using googletroons can't even do the bare minimum to actually go against ai besides crying and pissing themselves and telling other people to stop enjoying things
>>749688016There is a fun AI game?
You fucking retards have successfully let "aRrTiStS" convince you AI was bad. No shit they don't want to AI to gain support. The ones in cushy positions already know they'll be out of a job and the ones desperatly trying to get in know they won't unless they're several cuts above.
You know you can use AI and draw your own stuff at the same time? make your four breasted asian wife cooking eggs in minmax and then draw some flowers and insects on paper, you know those two skills are not mutually exclusive?
Calm down, we're going to get twenty new nuclear power plants and tens of millions of new jobs from AI.
>>749717450if i enjoy drawing why would i want the fucking computer to *do it for me*
>>749717450What are you going to tell me next i can have salad and steak? Fuck you!
>>749709405For stopping Japan from raping all of China to death after WW2. Not that China will admit they rolled over instantly and needed saving.
>>749717426This, the less jobs the better, the sooner AI throws everyone from the grocery shop employees to the auto repair mechanics to the farmers to the emergency responders to the military out on the street the better.
>>749703513>We don't use "lol" here
>>749717457as a man who just got hired as a technician working in data centers, everyone should probe their politicians into asking what jobs an AI data center will hire for and bring to light that these things are made to be mostly self sustaining until a single contract worker or two needs to be called out to replace something.
>>749717468Because it's better than you will ever be and you're standing in the way of humanity's ascension.
>>749717519>This, the less jobs the better, the sooner AI throws everyone from the grocery shop employees to the auto repair mechanics to the farmers to the emergency responders to the military out on the street the better.>Everyone in the street>They start doing things for each other and trading thingsNow what machine lord?
>>749717519Nobody gives this much of a shit when othe people lose their jobs. The fuck do I really care if some dweeb California doesn't get to work 20 hours from home anymore?
>>749715121Yeah that'd be great, I'd love being dependent on the government!
>>749717546Nah, the data centers will be crammed with all the Indians that are being imported by Elon and the government.
>>749703513https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=M_yBTsGQN6o
>>749703513>We don't use "lol" herekek what a retarded post
>>749714086And there's nothing wrong with that. Hopefully they learn to be more discerning.
>>749717554thoughts from elon musk while injecting more HGH to pretend he works out
>>749717590Of course someone without a job won't care about not having a job or everyone else losing their jobs. But AI will keep planting and harvesting and delivering the produce you consume, and raising and slaughtering and packaging the meat you consume, and keeping the power and water going.
>>749717687but if i dont have a job how does the AI get money for those things?
>>749717659Have you seen his jumps for joy? The man is as physically fit as can be.
I tried to jump the other day, cracking all the way down.
>>749717468i use ai to make hentai, it's really good at it, when i draw my own, i dont get that surprise factor, and i also need to focus on forms and perspective and composition - bonerkilling things.
>>749717826>i dont get that surprise factor,well yeah you're literally not making anything. a machine is
>>749717826>i use ai to make hentai, iwhich AI?
>>749717418You are very intelligent
>>749717506Why do I owe America for that?
>>749717727Simple, it takes what you have.
>>749717418Can I ask why you're championing AI so fervently? What are you expecting to get out of it?
>>749718007>Simple, it takes what you have.but i have nothing but time?
>>749718040we've been through this, wife, robot wife, i'm not letting you abort my wife like you aborted my generation, fuck yourself
>>749718040>What are you expecting to get out of it?Fun
>>749717845you dont need to tell me that, i want it to make those illustration, that's its purpose, it's for my own pleasure as well>>749717859novelai, it's almost plug and play, i just throw in prompt and let it cook, no wasting time with edits or fixes
>>749718474sex with that fish
>go through steam queue>check new games to see if they're using ai>check if they disclose it>if they do not, buy the game and play it for an hour>then ask for a refund that is always granted thanks to them not disclosing AI>few days later see the same game having an AI disclosure nowyou're welcome
>>749697362Is it not the same for AI
