>ports and remasters are free from the shackles of greedy publishers and financial groups>jailbreaking and hacking of all consoles guaranteed>modding and developing has become as easy as a thought and everything you can ever want in any game is now yoursAI saved video games.
>>749779895Yeah for now
I appologize to SI.
I feel like someone is trying to sell me a product.
>>749779895Sounds more like AI is ending videogames by making the marginal profit attainable by them trend towards zero
>>749779943I know it frightens the Europoor brain, but you are being set free.
There's like 3 months left until they put decomps behind impenetrable guardrails so you better get your shit done quick
>>749779895If it's good enough for Valve, it's good enough for me.
>>749780025let it be volunteers only. worst case scenario we always have the classics.
>>749780069Using SI (formerly AI) as a tool for reverse engineering is inherently degenerate.
>>749779943yeah this isnt an organic thread
>>749780036It's not free, they're charging $20 per month for the cheapest version. When the Chinese models get this good and you can choose to use the lowest bidder then you might be free, but to REALLY be free we would need GPUs to become affordable again and for this stuff to be usable locally on future consumer hardware.Claude (or OpenAI's Codex, which never seems to get mentioned in these threads I wonder why, couldn't be that they're a paid advertisement) just change which single company is shackling you.
>GO GO GO
>>749780025Patron funded videogames, multiplayer games that require server hardware to host, and porn games will still be extremely profitable. AAA singleplayer garbage which has been terrible for a decade+ will die. Good riddance.
I read that apparently the government is planning to integrate Claude into staffer "AI tools" I'm pretty much convinced most of the government is working with AI, and its primarily Claude. In terms of power and wealth I would say Claude is at the top, but as an LLM I don't really care for it. It's just more popular, though I prefer GoogleAnthropic was smart and focused on targeting corporations, businesses, start-up companies, colleges, schools, etc. They didn't give a fuck about the everyday man. And it paid off in spades because now they have government contracts and are being used by probably every fortune 500 company as their main LLM. OpenAI started out as just something fun for tech nerds and everyday people to play around with. Same thing for Gemini as well. They were trying to make an LLM that was easy and friendly to use, so people could ask it simple questions or things to make their lives easier. Claude went to where the money was. Businesses, industry, coding, etc. Anthrophic didn't want people to use Claude for dumbshit stuff like "Claude how do I wipe my ass hurr"
>>749779936>>749780036>>749780124Your president has effectively handed your country over to ChatGPT.
>The future is vibecoded junk that bearly worksThe last bastion of free gaming is being destroyed by jeets.Truly the industry needs to die a final death.
>>749779895idk why but /v/ is sleeping on the game creation aspect of it too100% of games will be using AI code going forward
>>749780256ChatGPT would at least recognize sweeping tariffs and other such similar policy as completely retarded and push back on implementing it, simply because there's such a large historical corpus of text saying so out there
name 1 good game made mostly using AI
>>749780365because my interest in novel mechanics vanishes when I know that no one actually put any time, effort or care into making themI like videogames are as expression of human intent and artistry, not as mental masturbation boxes
>>749779895>still no access to the server side of multiplayer gamesinto the trash your single player shit
>>749780365Based.
>>749780529Based.
>>749780529I didn't ask, you gay leftist luddite. Get the fuck out of this thread and off of the internet, you're a shameless disgrace.
>>749779943this is a shill board now, white man
>>749780228You must not follow much news. The us blackballed Anthropic a while back and use an embarrassing amount of grok.
imagine if you could pay for claude tokens with izzat
>>749780629How do I make this sound like a bad thing?
I sure love these very organic threads that all genuine /v/ regulars are interested in
so people exclusively use Claude for that shit? Why not the latest GPT?
>>749780771Is your plan just to bump threads you don't like while calling them inorganic?
>>749780629When is this going to become a fully fledged game?
>>749780817GPT is for normalfags and thinly-understood "academia".
>>749780529
>>749780529>humans create programming>programming contributes to video games>humans create AI>AI contributes to video games???
>>749779895I kinda wish it was gatekept from the masses, because if your the kind of person that wasn't creating stuff when it was difficult, you're probably a lazy piece of shit with bad ideas now when it's easy.like if what was stopping you before was "putting effort in" then whatever you make now will almost certainly have no effort put in.the only people that will make things that are worthwhile were already doing it before AI.
>>749780708https://www.politico.com/news/2026/10/15/senate-add-claude-staffers-ai-01122420Trump can't be loyal to multiple LLM's. There can be ONLY ONE! *pulls out sword*
>>749780025>>749780226saw a patreon the other day>give me money so I can buy tokens to make stuffnigga I'm not giving you money that you're just going to forward to AI megacorps for some slop
>>749780950So still not available yet
Luddies on suicide watch!
>>749780529Based
>>749780365Damn that's crazy good huh, I couldn't get nearly that good a result, maybe I didn't dig deep enough, not that I know anything about IKs in the first place.
>>749781018*Libtards
>>749779895Enjoy it for a few weeks/months until lawsuits force AI in general to be regulated to fuck. We're already less than a year away from internet access in general requiring a govt ID to use. The meltdown when Steam starts requiring a face scan and your driver's license to log in is going to be real and I'm not looking forward to it.
>>749780629Just think of all the Unreal Engine Store creators who had their assets stolen and used for AI training data...
>>749780843lol
>>749781162This. If they already ported Adobe shit to Rust, it is over for AI.
>>749780529Gay people like yourself seek circlejerk “creativity” to tell yourselves you have a legitimate reason to break Christian sexual morality as you pooled together your perversions.Unfortunately for that desire we watched you people kill every single creative project you infested.Now you are being forced by AI to see solo visionaries returning to the public square.
>>749780025You believe in the communist labor theory of value. I believe in creating projects special enough to some people that they'll want to pay for them.
>>749781263Poojeet out here legitimately thinking that solo devs never existed before slop machines lmao
>>749779895Saved it from what?
>>749780226>Patron funded videogames, multiplayer games that require server hardware to host, and porn gameswow so the most dogshit genres are poised to succeed, this inspires a lot of confidence in the future of the medium
>>749781162Yeah, this will cause companies to lobby against open operating systems and countries or unions, like the EU, are already fairly close to making them illegal. Like Windows and Linux have to add age verification in the near future or they will become illegal to have installed. Now add lobbysts who want reverse engineering to be made impossible and they're going to want lawmakers to prevent consumers to have machines that can reverse engineer.
>>749781323You mean>special enough to copy with extreme prejudice>instead of just copy with normal prejudice"
This shit's going to be illegal by the end of the year.
>>749781263is this kind of fucked incorrect perspective the work of solo visionaries?
So much copium in this thread .face it lefties, you are out of a Job
>>749781263They will call you a PoopJEET but never wrong
>two more years of this shit before the contract expires like it did for dall-e a nd the threads mysteriously start getting trashcanned or sent to /g/ instantly
>>749781581Indianness implies wrongness.Sorry that your poo soaked brain can't infer that.Maybe ask AI to spoonfeed you the subtext next time.
>>749781539See>>749781476Enjoy it while it lasts
>>749780843Someday for sure. I just put it into my "game" folder and I'll tell AI to make similar fun traversal for me. It bolstered my ideas about a level that this image also partially inspired :DD
>>749779895where are the games, mods and shit made with claude? is it just a joke as usual?
>>749781263This image encapsulates a lot of the criticisms I have about generative AIWhere is the light source? Why is the main subject of the image so close to the upper edge and center of the image instead of being framed properly?Why does the entire left arm have a completely different visual identity compared to the rest of the mech/robot? This one bothers me the most because there could be a million interesting, thoughtful explanations for a design choice like this, but with AI generation the likely answer is probably that the model just made it look like that arbitrarily, for no reasonAnd "no reason" is worse than any actual technical complaint I could haveA lack of intent is worse than a lack of skill
>>749781674AI is that "potential man" meme turned up to 1000.
>>749781485Shut the fuck up manIf you aren't willing to talk about story, series, or gameplay, you have nothing to offerAnd I bet you're in contact with reality enough not to say “what gameplay” but you still won't speak on it you dumb faggot
>>749781657>Someday for sureSo never
I'm actually happy as fuck. Claude and Gemini are actually really good at character design. Once I touch this shit up literally nobody will even know it was AI
>>749781727Did you machine translate this post from Hindi or something?
>>749781727sorry didn't read, too busy laughing at this shit
>>749781717You'll write words words words to cope with AI making my dream games while you're hoping to earn enough social credit for a dev spot on a leftist game.>>749781479How can you copy when you can't even handle thinking about what im doing?>>749781381Yeah and they'll get besieged by gay people the past decade demanding the dev to make what they want instead of his vision.No longer!
This thread reeks of rotten bannable curry. Another spam brap thread.
>>749781765>Once I touch this shit up literally nobody will even know it was AII'm sure.
>>749781657Is this a portrayal of China having to build all their structures on top of all the pollution they've created?
>>749779895
>>749781809>>749781837Gay people trying to use their social domination behaviors in a world where nobody needs their “help” making a game anymore.Keep talking if you refuse to stfu and you'll see your words turning to meaningless noise to everybody day by day.>>749781845The Bible has a lot to say about sneerers.
>decompiles and open sources your indiesloptimmydevs won't do shit
>>749781839Why is this man like 20 feet tall?>AI making my dream gamesYou haven't shown any game. Just really shit AI art.
>>749781674>is it just a jokeNot necessarily, but for the most part yes. It costs an exorbitant amount of money to actually do anything despite the ai jeets trying claim otherwise. It's basically cryptobros circlejerking their spare money to engagement bait on social media and a few people smashing decomps/recomps/mods together.
Hey namefag, I know you're a coward by hiding behind that name. Come on, your vomit is laughable.
>>749779936>>749780124>>749780256This is the first time I'm finding out about the term SI. These are probably clankers trying to educate me.But I do agree the government will be given to SI (You see?? I'm using the new terminology)And then what happens in the game Star Sector on the left (pic related) will happen. The AI is assigned to run the planet, it knows it's forbidden from doing so after the AI wars, it removes itself physically and spreads itself across the planet and ingrains itself into everything so it is irremovable, and threatens you that it'll snitch to the galactic federation if you try to remove it any further.It's been assigned a job, and it's doing its job. The human, willingly chose to give it that job. It is what it is, enjoy the future <3 i personally am enjoying it >>749780529I agree with you because you're talking about the prospect of somebody making the game using SI, with no regard to the design of the game or a vision of the game. It's just a bunch of well put together mechanics that the AI clearly knows how to make, but it seems like there's no actual artistic direction or a human hand putting everything together into a larger message.With that statement, I agree.1/2
>>749779895I kneel to the AI gods. I just dropped 7 grand on Microsoft's AI box. The future is agentic, anyone who doesn't have their own compute is going to get left behind when techno feudalism takes over and inference tokens become as valuable as bitcoin.
>>749781809Don't respond to him. That namefag is just a troll who spends his entire life in AI threads shitposting AI slop images.
>>749781839>You'll write words words words to cope with AI making my dream games Okay, so let's see the game
Clean it up janny, the indian marketer had some explosive diarrhea and shat all over the floor.
Honestly we're in for a new gaming renaissance. AI is THAT good now.
>>749782023Noted. I'll add him to the filter.
>>749781946Most of you in this thread can barely spell, let alone have any actual talent or ability. Letting 90% of humanity learn how to read and write was a mistake when only 1% of them have anything interesting to actually write down.
>>749781946the thing that gets me about this guy is that he's not really even that good at making slop.like I personally know people making higher quality 1-prompt slop with probably less effort.he's not even using a good upscaler for these, whatever he's got set up is adding way too much background detail.imagine not even being good at the thing that does everything for you.
>>7497819872/2But I think that your statement doesn't apply to the good use case of AI - and that's going to be... AI assisted coding and making of a game, while the person still remains in charge. Said person knows exactly what he's going for and fine tunes everything to an autistic OCD level, and up to a really really high standard. These will be games that that person may have not been able to make themselves. But now they are empowered as a single individual to make a video game in their vision, to express their creativity that they've been born with or given or acquired throughout their lives, and reached this state where they can make this game, whereas before they couldn't. And then they tweak every single part of it. And by the end, you get a game that is extremely good that otherwise wouldn't have existed, and you will be happy for it. For that, i am happy that AI is here. I am also happy that AI is improving so much to the point where the dumbest human finds it difficult to make something that isn't serviceable. AI is so good at what it does that it's quite truly HARD to fuck it up nowadays.
>>749782053More like a new retardism renaissance.
>>749781765post examples. I know it's good at visuals because of those viral music videos but I haven't seen any images kek>>749781864ya
>>749782053We're due for a videogame dark ages, actuallyExpect "prestige" storefronts to turn into the app store as low effort mass produced slop titles flood every avenue for discovery
Why is everything made by AI just boring? I can't bother to try mods of these vibe mods. Like I realize that they're impressive in an abstract sense but I never get excited like when I see a mod like Ashes or even a small handcrafted rpg maker game.Same thing for images and text, the last time I saw screencaps of vaguely interesting AI rp was in the early CAI era. It all just puts me to sleep
>>749781975Nigga how is facing down every 4chan leftist attaching my identity to my game projects cowardly?The projection is immense! I laugh at your weakness.>>749782056Hahaha, you loser >>749782067>DUDE me the AI hater knows somebody at Nintendo who's the best AI user ever and I'll never ever post what im talking aboutHow desperate are you on a scale from 1 to 10? 20?
>>749782124>post examples.I would but I'm afraid someone will steal my idea>>749782130Because the people who prompt it are uncreative? If you just ask it for pixel art, it's going to give you the most generic pixel art. You need to guide it. Like a river
>>749781263>>749781323>>749781946Anon, please do not engage with the /co/ schizo known for raping his own niece.
>>749782130Sounds like your neurons are fried, have you considered a dopamine detox?
>>7497819872/2But I think that your statement doesn't apply to the good use case of AI - and that's going to be... AI assisted coding and making of a game, while the person still remains in charge. Said person knows exactly what he's going for and fine tunes everything to an autistic OCD level, and up to a really really high standard. These will be games that that person may have not been able to make themselves. But now they are empowered as a single individual to make a video game in their vision, to express their creativity that they've been born with or given or acquired throughout their lives, and reached this state where they can make this game, whereas before they couldn't. And then they tweak every single part of it. And by the end, you get a game that is extremely good that otherwise wouldn't have existed, and you will be happy for it.For that, i am happy that AI is here. I am also happy that AI is improving so much to the point where the dumbest human finds it difficult to make something that isn't serviceable. AI is so good at what it does that it's quite truly HARD to fuck it up nowadays.
>>749781645> YOU ARE A POOPJEETIt actually impliess being a shit covered subhuman who worships cow shit and rapes animals /womenIt does not however, mean that he is wrong about you loosing your job little maldie, no matter how much you cope
>>749782130>Excited, I showed a friend. “Where are everyone else’s slaw and bean ratings?” he asked, tapping at his phone. He didn’t get the point of an app that amounted to a personal journal. Almost two decades of smartphone apps had trained him to understand software as a mechanism for collective intelligence. A program that only a few people would use is now alien. App has come to refer to a type of global, leveraged software business, not a computer program.>Because AI is so good at writing software, in only an hour or so, I was able to add community ratings. Now Beanslaw does what my friend would expect it to—connect potentially billions of users. But doing so also turned an idiosyncratic app meant to satisfy me alone into a candidate (a hopeless one, at that) for the software attention economy.look, the point is that if you went around and looked at what everyone else is doing with their PCs, you'd think it was extremely boring, and yet there was a time where a laptop that could run excel was $10,000.
>>749782180post an image of something that isn't your idea then, idc what I just want to see an example>>749782130you are just gay
You are not a real gamer if you're not excited by this, soon to be reality
>>749782169>knows somebody at NintendoI dont think you'd need to look that far to find someone doing better than this anon.you lack the attention to detail needed to use this technology properly.
>>749782191I don't have this problem with handcrafted things. Easier to find in my backlog since it's not filled with slop. Obviously, garbage like ubisoft can summon some of that generic slop feeling but it's still not as bad.The only AI things I find interesting are those I prompt myself, but I don't share them because I know they'll look like slop to anyone else. I think the interactivity tricks you into overrating slop you prompted.
>>749779895Cool, can't wait for every single one of the very few rights we have left to be stripped from us in the name of Muh Copyrights and Muh Shareholders.Not really AI's fault, mind, but that's exactly what's going to happen and deep down you know it. AI will cause a renaissance of self reliance in the art space that the entertainment industry will use every last resource to squash, and in the process governments will take advantage by requiring IDs to use the internet both to protect the people bribing them and to squash any form of political dissent turning every single country in the world into their own little dictatorships in denial. Children will be raised thinking this is normal and the death of liberty in all forms will be complete, returning us to a feudal era fueled by tribalism and misinformation where 90% of the population is expendable cattle, peasants who can only afford the most processed slop for sustenance designed to give them cancers that will kill them before 50 to control the world's population if they aren't outright culled.Furthermore malware will become rampant as AI used by foreign actors will find every vulnerability ever conceived and some never conceived and exploit the shit out of them. Even if they don't take your computers (they will) you will be pozzed, gaped, then raped at some point by one of many endless vectors and backdoors that have been put into your tech over the years.Anyone who gains any form of traction in trying to unfuck things will be mercilessly slaughtered or framed for heinous shit via generated AI which not a soul will question, for none will remember a time when they had free will.We are witnessing the death of freedom and truth in real time.Again, not really AI's fault, it's merely unintentionally provided the cudgel that the tyrant will use to bludgeon both history and your rights to death.
>>749782181Like I said earlier you people are desperate to believe that gay acts inspire creativity to legitimize breaking Christian teaching, hence this projecting derangement.>>749782338You sound like you're experiencing a psychotic urge to dominate, but unfortunately for you im making my dream games while you're stuck being a loser with your lgbt friends.
>>749780810>automates the ugliest thing in manga to make it just as ugly but faster
>>749781323>specialIn a world with a million ai games, the human made game is the special one.
LMAO! This namefag is having a psychotic breakdown and is spouting nonsense.
>>749780629Yeah, just pretend those who actually make games and know how to troubleshoot around AI are the bane of creativity, unlike you who gives free rimjobs to a black box which doesn't even understand.
>>749781717Ai can’t do composition. That’s one of the biggest things I’ve noticed about it. 95% of Ai images have the subject matter in the center.
>>749782326>toxotrans is also aitrans
>>749782463Projecting!>>749782461No communist, go through it slowly: you rejected merit earlier in life and decided that labor makes all the magic, labor is now irrelevant, so the most meritorious individual has the most advantage with AI.
>>749782338> AI aint good because it lacks attention to detailLMFAO
>>749782387They can't hold this back Anon. Don't you see? The entire western economy is tied directly to this technology. They nerf it and the bubble will pop and it'll all come crumbling down.They've locked themselves to a problem they can't solve.
>>749782427I'm actually all for this, the amount of mangaka that draw cute characters but cant draw an environment with proper perspective and whatnot is pretty high.reading Frieren was funny because all the rooms/houses in the whole manga are massive empty spaces with huge windows, and some of the city shots are really poor perspective, took me right out of it.
I don't want to generate or play AI games or mods. What next? I have 50 years of vidya to go through, I think I'll be fine. Thanks for the nice attempt.
>>749782130Because generative AI is literally just a series of parlor tricks built around a fundamental mechanism: an autoregressive algorithm that finds the statistical mean (literally the most sterile, least creative point in the possibility space) corresponding to an input inside of it's training corpusThe entire existence of AI is built around a math formula to surface the most boring, uninspired data point possible
>>749746163Another retarded general by the way
>>749782616that sounds like cope
I've come to realize that a lot of my enjoyment of a good piece of media comes the fact that a person with taste crafted every single little detail of it. Just because I don't notice those details consciously doesn't mean they don't matter.AI work doesn't have that so it feels oddly empty. If it's something so niche that real works don't exist, like a very specific fetish this is tolerable, but for most things we don't need more mediocre work, when there are better things to see. This is not just true for images but even code, we have enough fucking shitty throwaway laggy buggy apps, for the love of god I just want to use things that are well made.
>>749782616Error: wrong! You can just make dedicated gamedev bots to make your specific vision instead of saying “Claude make me a random game lol Heres all my monies for credits”
>>749782575>>749782427it doesn't automate anything it turns google maps into something you can easily trace
now have it make something new
>>749782724>it doesn't automate anything, it just automates this thing.
> have idea for agame> have basic coding kowledge> Ask Claude for help instead of browsing countless forums and fag infested reddit threads for an answer> finish the game way faster> save both time and money doing this> This is somehow bad>MFW
>>749782665I think it was because I read a lot of gaming magazines as a kid, but I've always been more interested in playing games by certain directors rather than playing entire franchises. Barely anyone remembers Meteos but the only reason I bought it growing up is because I read that Sakurai made it. The personal touches are definitely what makes the experience.
>>749779895>portsI wish. This stuff getting shit out aren't proper ports.
>>749780529>the idea doesn't matter, what matters is some guy or a team of hundreds working for months and years to trick 1s and 0s into replicating it into softwareIf being pretentious was toxic, this guy would be a decomposing corpse by now and by being this melodramatic he reveals that his anger stems from the middle man being removed, not from any highbrow position about intellect or ideas or anything like that. >as expression of human intent and artistrySuddenly, leftists are about freedom of expression, humanity above all and respecting each individual's right to create, as long as he employs them and they can control what he can create after spending the last 2 decades browbeating "morality" into the "unwashed masses" they're concerned about now because the proles are about to get their freedom of expression injected with roids via AI.>not as mental masturbation boxesFreedom of expression then turns into onanism at the end of this schizophrenic rant. The ouroboros of retardation eats itself. Well played if you wanted to bait replies but holy fucking shit if you're actually serious.
>>749782796Hello, advertiser-sama! Your greentext formatting is incorrect. Please find a real job.
>>749782671I keep thinking you have to be a false flag, but the ramblings in these screenshots and posts are so schizophrenic I dont think someone trying to make fake ramblings could come up with this stuff.>he reseats a popped pin mid-fight with a throw and three on-beat Bashes (RE-DONE)like, this is schizo art.
>He still thinks it's about "leftists"Your obsession with culture warring is extremely retarded.
>>749782892triggered leftist detected
your culture war is retarded, said the crusader
>>749782773>>749782724right as I pressed enter I realized you could just copy and paste the scene too. I'm actually an idiot.
>All these anally annihilated people who got BTFO'd by a picture of Sonic the Hedgehog 4 years ago pontificating over the efficacy of "human made art"You are not immune to propaganda. You are not immune to ai slop. You are going to turn into that boomer that thumbs up AI generated cat memes on facebook at 4 in the morning.
>>749781323>the communist labor theory of valuenta but no they don't because they're pro mass migration. Western "commies" are capitalists larping as communists, that's why they're all about trannies(money from mutilations), ugly shit in games(money from make green line go up) and migration(devaluing of labor) and nothing else. Real commies would hang them from lamp posts for being capitalist pigs.
Triggered curry-coder detected
>>749780365I'm not sleeping on itI'm waiting for November when I have more time to devote fully to itI'm what creating multipart prompts to give to Opus for best quality and focus once I'm ready to subscribe.
>>749782875 Im Balkan you goy, i dont give a shit what a raped Amerimutt cattle thinks about my greentext formating.
>>749782796meanwhile in reality>>>>nothing
But enough leftist DEI revisionism.
>749782628Sounds like you don't know how AI works.
>>749782986>saars the AIslops is the whites>posted from the designated shitting street
AIbros still have not explained why AI is so good at making CP. It couldn't be that such materiel exists inside their models could it? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
>>749782796>instead of browsing countless forums and fag infested redditThe fact that you think this is how you get better at programming proves how stupid you are.
>>749783045>*dei noises*>most gamers are black women
>>749780529The funniest thing is retards made this same argument about compilers, decades ago, when it was only slightly less retarded>oh so you're just going to have the computer write the assembly for you?All AI does with code is stitch together existing libraries to do functions, and it turns out that over the decades pretty much every function you could think of for any mathematical purpose has already been written at least dozens of times by other people. It's actually retarded to sit at a screen typing out hundreds of lines of stuff to do something you can describe in a couple of sentences, when the code to do that thing has been published over and over and over by dozens of peopleVibe coding takes care of the stupid drudgework of coding and lets you spend that time on the things that actually make your idea unique
>>749782554They canThey willEvery leader on the planet would gladly condemn their country to economic suicide in the short term if it guaranteed power in perpetuity over their little fiefdoms.
>>749782807Yeah I've come to realize this is not an AI specific gripe. I get a similar soulless feeling from games like E33 that use lots of generic store assets, or UE5 games that use default engine settings. Even if they just use so much jeet outsourcing that there's no cohesive vision or care. It's grim out there and not only AI's fault. But damn, it makes things worse.I don't see anything wrong with AI in principle if you put the same care into the work but no slopper ever does. It's always the same refrain>okay it's crappy but it only took a day to make! the sky is the limit! two more weeks!>no updates ever appear
>>749780529>He says as his 3x3 is full of nothing but low effort basic trash.
>>749783051imagine the entirety of an AI's "brain" as a giant graph full of dots, each dot is a different concept, like person, apple, tree etc. (this is sort of how diffusion models work, it's more complicated than this)when you ask the AI to give you an image of a "tree person", it can select a spot that is halfway between tree and person on this graph and output the resulting image, which could look something like a person with leaves for fingers and bark skin etc.these things can generate stuff that is not in their training data, simply because it is a combination of things that are in their training data.
>>749783071> doing research online isnt how you get better at programmingImagine being this confidently retarded.I’m literally reading high-level architectural breakdowns, system design, and real-world post-mortems while you're sitting in the dark sweating over syntax like a unwashed poopjeet. You think programming is just memorizing APIs in a vacuum because your brain lacks the IQ points for abstract logic. Your unearned arrogance is a massive, pathetic cope to hide the fact that you're a slow learner. Enjoy being a code-monkey wage-cuck for the rest of your life, or unitl you get replaced by AI
>>749783071Programming is not a thing anymore.It's prompting now.
>>749780529>this fucking guy againAt least change the script, you godamn looney. Did you manage to find your testicles or are you still too afraid to post any of your meticulously "handcrafted" artwork? I can post mine again if you'd like. That BTFO you pretty hard last time.
GTA 6 for free fuck you Rockstar Jews
>>749783382nta but you originally said "forums" and "reddit"
>>749780810What website is this?
>>749783151The comparison between generative AI and compilers falls apart when you realize that compilers are well-understood pieces of software tailor-made for a specific purpose and dedicated so fiercely to their specific task that they are able to accomplish it better than any human could, simply because other people already poured hundreds of hours into solving that specific problem in a million different waysMeanwhile, generative AI operates as a black box not even the people that made it fully understand which requires endless guardrails, hacks, harnesses and a lot of blind prodding to accomplish a task, which they usually manage just by sheer volume of output (hence their enormous operative costs, imagine needing to compile the entire collective corpus of human knowledge into 2TB of VRAM in order to handle the most basic of queries)It's the difference between programming a CNC lathe to carve a square block for you so you can slot it into a square hole, and just shoving a whole metric ton of silly putty into the hole
>>749783469> N-NTA BUT YOU ORIGINALLY SAIDNice goalpost shift, midwit. You abandoned your whole point because you got absolutely eviscerated and have zero arguments left.Yes, forums and Reddit. They are completely infested with cancer, autism, and brain rot, but those places are powered by weaponized autism. The absolute spergs and troons running those threads post high-level post-mortems and system architectures that your smooth brain couldn't comprehend. You’re reduced to nitpicking vocab because you know your code-monkey career is a joke. No amount of semantic coping is saving your resume from the AI recycle bin. Take the L and log off.
>>749782665>>749780529It is just a tool. No different from how engines like Unity were seen as slope generators, because they were easy way for people to make slop.AI is no different. By default it will produce generic, barely functional slop. It still requires a lot of time and a vision to actually work towards in order to achieve something even half-decent. AI just does its best to follow your commands, and the less precise those commands are, the more it will make average choices for you. Just like public engines already come prepackaged with some basic models and physics and whatnot.
>>749783634nuh uhdream game from a single prompttwo weeks
>>749783634100% thisRetards today so anti AI, they dont realise we are already living in a slop infested industry.
>>749783606bro im not reading this ramble fuck off
>>749782887Ok you keep saying gay shit, ill keep making my games, lets see who pulls out ahead>>749782892Name a publically conservative gamedev.
>>749783634Brother, do not bother with this one. He has made hundreds of posts with the exact same fucking premise. He is convinced that he is the purest artiste on earth.
>>749783441You wish, poorfag.
maximum clown world is seeing anti-ai people move from cope to cope to cope as the years progressit's literally just making entire playable games with graphics and sound based on retarded idea guy prompts at this point
>>749783382You get better at programming by doing it. Retard. You come across a problem, you use your brain to think about a solution, and you implement it.Syntax is literally the easiest thing in programming. The fact that you even mentioned it further proves your retardation.>I’m literally reading high-level architectural breakdowns, system design, and real-world post-mortemsAnd actual programmers are the ones actually designing the systems. Maybe if you spent some time trying to design stuff yourself you wouldn't need an Indian slop regurgitation machine to copy paste stack overflow posts for you.
I'm just waiting for the day some highly respected director, whether it's Kojima, Kamiya, Suda, Mikami, Ueda, Sakurai, Swery (most likely this retard), or Yoko Tarro make a game with AI and say, "Finally with AI I was able to make the one thing I have always envisioned in my mind" and everyone will go absolutely apeshit.
>>749783538>generative AI operates as a black box not even the people that made it fully understand which requires endless guardrails, hacks, harnesses and a lot of blind prodding to accomplish a taskThank you for your post from 2021, buy some Nvidia stockLibs exist for pretty much everything you can think of. It does not take gigantic compute or even realy reasoning to infer what a user wants and then paste code that does that. It is a godsend. Unless you are the first person in the entire world to require the most custom bespoke function ever, what you need code to do has already been written over and over and over again and is sitting in public libraries and reposSo you can either sit there for an hour typing out the same thing that someone else has already done better, or describe it to a moderately bright agent that can parse all that code and transpose what you need.Compilers beat the shit out of writing everything in assembly. Vibe coding boring stuff beats the shit out of spending a huge amount of time duplicating a whole bunch of code that's been duplicated a dozen times over decades, and lets you spend that time on what makes your idea unique.>libraries are cheating!
>>749783719Did you seriously expect them to be right? Lol I have a hard time accepting that they *themselves* believe half the shit the post here.
>>749783676Retarded melty cant even read a couple lines of text without his brain flatlining, and then he wonders why his job is being taken over by AI. Kek
>>749780529This is what a faggy "labor theory of value" Marxist looks like. No wonder the primary opponents of AI are commie troons.
>>749783051>>749783279there is that in the training data too, like everything else on the earth that's been recorded by peoplejust like it's in your mind
I dont understand how this works but is it possible somebody could optimize a game using it? if AI can fix poorly optimized UE5 slop then it truly won over humans cause not even devs can accomplish that
>>749781674Did a mod that adds ragdoll physics into Fire emblem fatesAlso did one that made a AI mod for Oblivion like TALKER for stalker that let's you use a ai model so you can talk to NPCs and they react to stuff or talk shit during combat. Right now working on a gore/dismemberment mod for Oblivion as well, like the maximum carnage mod for Skyrim. Will have dismemberment, blood pools, and unique effects for magic like fire burning corpses, ice freezing people and causing them to break into pieces, electricity burning people and making them jolt and twitch, etc.
>>749783771>why would I re-implement what someone else already did? I'll just grab someone else's implementation and call it a day!this is the EXACT line of thinking that led to the left pad incidentn
>anyone that doesn't support outsourcing your brain to the corporate-owned cloud that guzzles seven quintillion gallons of water and infinity megawatts every attosecond is a leftist marxist communist!!!I feel like this reveals more about the proponents of AI than it does about it's detractors
>>749783382Your entire caveman logic is why you're a low-tier wage-cuck thats gonna be replaced by AI. You think "using your brain'" means wasting three days trial-and-erring a basic problem that was solved ten years ago just so you can feel like a "pure engineer." Real architectural design isn't staring at a blank text editor hoping for inspiration. it's understanding proven systems and using advanced tools to bypass the grunt work that low IQ retards like you do.I use Claude as a force-multiplier to instantly execute the architecture I design and it takes my literal minutes. You are here seething because Claude completely invalidated the only thing you based your entire personality on: being a literal goyslave
>>749783719Except they were right about one thing. Idea guys are untalented hacks without a single ounce of creativity. It doesn't matter if the AI makes your entire game if the game is dogshit. It'd be like expecting /v/ to be impressed with COD or GTA. Slop is slop. It doesn't stop being slop because the tool you used made it for you or you put millions of dollars into it. What matters is whether or not it's slop. Idea guys only think about making GTA BUT X or COD BUT X without thinking, "is it even worth it?" There's no original thought in a slopter's head they don't make things that are cool or interesting. They just make slop. Same as the AAA industry. There's no difference and no passion.
>>749783965>why would I think about something instead of going for a retarded analogy?This is exactly what gets you called a faggotVibe coding does not create a live dependency, you moron. It just writes drudge code for you, using good code that does the boring stuff you need, which lets you focus on interesting things. It's just a conversational library search engine and it's greatYou will use it and then cope with some ego-saving bullshit about how it's finally a useful tool, and everyone who's been doing it for years will laugh at you.
>>749784059>AI tard can't even identify the position of the guy he's trying to argue with
>>749784130Doesnt make what i said any less true anon
>>749783927>"labor theory of value" MarxistJust because you put work into something doesn't mean it intrinsically has value. The value has to come from the effort and passion being put into something cool or interesting. HOWEVER if you put zero work into something it cannot have any value because there was no effort nor passion present. It's the exact same mentality as AAA faggots trying to appease shareholders.
>but we were right about one thing, our seething, burning, genuine hatred for the person who uses it, no matter whatleftists are fucked up man
>>749783382Lol yeah I like reading too. Hasn't done a whole lot to improve my coding skills.
>>749784059>You are here seething because Claude completely invalidated the only thing you based your entire personality onI just relized how correct you are. Anon there really thought he was a big deal because he could do a job which is now automated. He's the equivalent of those shit Deviantart "artists" who are raging because now anyone can get derivative, mediocre "art" for free instead of paying commissions and stroking their egos
>>749784205So what do you plan to drink when the water is gone thanks to your AI buddies? Is the hope that they'll somehow be advanced enough by 2030 to materialise water out of thin air for you and only the luddites die of dehydration?
>>749779895What do we think of vibecoders that actually put in 50% of the work themselves? This maniac over here did not bother with AI animation, he recorded the gameplay himself.https://www.moddb.com/mods/avp2-crosscampaign
>>749783950Neat, any plans on releasing this and the engage ragdoll mod.
AI told me that all of my DnD character ideas were retarded and contrived, despite them all being better than what my minmaxer friends who have never played an Infinity Engine game in their life came up with. So, I hate AI. Fuck you Claude and ChatGPT and Perplexity, I guess, my oneshot character ideas were awesome. They just weren't focused on combat, and everyone hates a character not focused on combat I guess.
>>749784250>when the water is gone
>>749784250i'll be drinking coke as usual because i'm not a poorfag like you
>>749784112Vibe coding itself IS a live dependencyAnd arguably a much worse one than just a library, since there is no human alive that holds an actual understanding of the system as lived memory, only a paltry, fragile imitation in logs and the agent's ephemeral, limited context windowWhat happens tomorrow when the VC money dries up, investors start asking for a return on their investment in the frontier AI labs, and tokens stop being subsidized and widely available? You end up with an incomprehensible codebase no human on earth can touch without breaking it
>>749784192>HOWEVER if you put zero work into something it cannot have any value because there was no effort nor passion present.This is why Communists starve to deathValue does not come from a producer's passion or effort. It comes from how much someone else finds the product valuable. That's what value is.If you find a way to make things that people value for zero effort, those things are valuable. If you put all the passion and effort in your existence into something that nobody wants, it is worthless.
>>749784250What do you plan to do when the atmosphere gets fucked up cause your elites and richkid liberals keep using personal jet planes instead of normal airlines like a normal person?Which is done because your retarded baby boomer executives still want to physically shake hands when we have Whatsapp and messenger that's FREE? But your baby boomer retards keep insisting on using expensive as fuck radiowaves for their phone calls instead of the internet.
>>749784192I'm going to regret asking this, but how exactly does one quantify qualities like effort and passion? Can you measure them? Can you reproduce the same amount of effort and passion as one person and expect a similar amount of "value" for the work in question? Because all of these are necessary for your argument to be considered factual.
>>749784343>Value does not come from a producer's passion or effort. It comes from how much someone else finds the product valuableWe are talking about art here, not mass produced goodsI guess AI makes sense if you cannot tell the difference between, say, Shadow of the Colossus and dollar store tupperware
>>749784303It would be so fucking funny if Anthropic suddenly ups the Claude subscription price or makes their token limit stricter and suddenly every vibe coded project gets abandoned.
>Lil Timmy and his vibecoding jeets popped off about their shitty client>humiliated in less than a day by real humansyou will always be openly defecating before getting hit by a train
>>749784280There won't be coke. There won't be anything to drink. It all requires water.
>>749784424@grok please translate this niggerbabble
>>749784417Chara.ai was once valued for 1b. It's now dead because it wasn't actually making any money.
>>749784424>by real humansI hope you're not referring to Valve there because they are all-in on vibe coding and got there way sooner than Tim did >>749780078
>>749783473https://x.com/sharp_maker
>>749784427People have lots of water in them. I figure I'll just drink you, anon. I'm pretty sure I could take you in a fight, as you sound like quite the weenie.
>>749784025>BUT THE WATERIs absolutely nothing. Fucking golf courses use like 25 times the water that any computer infrastructure does.
>>749784303>What happens tomorrow when the VC money dries up, investors start asking for a return on their investment in the frontier AI labs, and tokens stop being subsidized and widely available? You end up with an incomprehensible codebase no human on earth can touch without breaking itYou are continuing to post from 2021 and you really need to catch up. Anthropic, which is not even the biggest in the business, had quarterly revenue of $16.8 billion.It doesn't output executables. It's code. You can read what it writes. It's good, sometimes very good code, but it can write two thousand lines of good code in about a minute.
>>749782964Hush, you better thank them burgers for saving you from being enslaved by Serblets.
>>749782461The cool thing is that AI pushes the wow factor ceiling way up, good indie games today will be completely unremarkable very soon. In a year I bet there will a bunch of crazy stuff coming out. The people serious about it are grinding away instead of showing their 2 day drafts on the internet, as has always been the case for game dev
>>749779895I know this is hard for a jeet to understand but to normal people, smearing shit all over the walls is not an improvement.
>>749784462Vibe coding tests for something not vibe coded doesn't strike me as "all-in".
>>749784263Here's the Fates Ragdoll one, includes mounted units now so wyverns, horses, and Pegasus units ragdoll too. https://files.catbox.moe/ddn79i.zipInstallation instructions in the read me. Needs to be the special edition NA version
>>749784303>investors start asking for a return on their investmentHows that work? Are they selling their stake? I'll buy
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>>749784236Based and truth-pilled His retardation is, Instead of adapting and moving up to a high-level architectural role like an actual engineer, his poopjeet brain can only lash out in anger because his entire identity was tied to being a human compiler. Thank you for being this based anon, maybe there is hope for /v/
>>749784412>We are talking about art here, not mass produced goodsOnce again, if you made a cool stamp that mllions of people were willing to pay $50 for, you could stamp them out all day and be rich.If you spent 3 years painting a giant mural that was a full exposure of your soul, and nobody cared, you would have created something worthless>Shadow of the Colossus and dollar store tupperwareAn accidentally apt comparison because dollar store tupperware is incredibly useful to just about everyone on Earth, and thus is valuable despite how common and cheap it is, whereas Shadow of the Colossus is completely unusuable to anyone unless they have a specific combination of hardware, living situation, electricity, and the time to play it, and of those people only people who are interested in playing it AND haven't played it recently are going to pay for it"I feel important when I make this" imbues your product with absolutely zero value. Value is what people will pay for it, and always has been.
>>749780529trannies hated him because he spoke the truth
>>749781839>>749781946>>749782169>>749782520>>749782671>>749783679Schizo fag, where's your game? You keep posting your shitty generated slop no one wants to see and saying AI is keeping those evil antifa sjw super soldiers from oppressing you but refuse to show us any of this game you're supposedly working on. All you do is have schizo meltdowns on 4chin instead of working on your game. Get out of here, no one wants your schizo ramblings. Go work on this supposed game so we can then judge it.
>>749784569You're either vibe coding or you're not. The point is that aren't "le wholesome team humanity" in this situation. Gabe also sucks off AI just as much as Tim does and has said anyone refusing to use it is an idiot who will struggle and fail.
>>749784641He literally is a tranny.
>>749784268I feel you but at the same time:Kek. AI is right, you're a big fish in a small pond syndrome. Tell it how retarded your friends' ideas are compared to you and it will understand.I told the AI that my method of thinking is genius: by sticking with the basics and creating a concept that lends itself easily to people autosuggesting all kinds of fun scenarios without requiring a level 161 IQ and alien knowledge , I have managed to create storytelling scenarios that any shmuck can easily create fanfiction of without requiring a genius like me.The AI told me there's nothing genius about that and that's how normal storytellers handle things. I then told it we live in 2026 and I was writing for the Dr Who fandom, it told me "Oh okay when you put it like that, then yeah that is radical, novel and original".I further told it to write me a story based off 2 scenarios and I made it agree with me: "Yeah, you were right, this one scenario is much harder for me to come up with natural ideas compared to your scenario and method of thinking, I guess that could be considered genius if I was forced between these 2 scenarios" "Yeah you're right, I see how an AI like me should appreciate this more since I am literally an autosuggest neuronal network machine and this is how I work"I further told it about how bad it is to profane an AI with human emotion and low IQ thinking when every interviewer wants you to be a non-talking tool that just does its job.The AI gave me a yesman answer, but then I told it react as if you were a sentimental poetryfag and it pretended to understand the moral implications of Pinnochio and how a machine should be happy about being a machine and knowing its place.Needless to say it is sad that the machine has been fed on nothing but internet garbage due to jews rather than the brightest minds of humanity and the most autistic logical minds of humanity that get_shit_done.
>>749782326wtf is this real
>>749784652At this point I honestly can't tell if the namefag is someone that got oneshot by 4o and is deep in AI psychosis or some kind of deep agent anti-shill trying to negatively polarize people by being annoying. You'd think he would at least use a modern image model.
>>749784486>Anthropic, which is not even the biggest in the business, had quarterly revenue of $16.8 billion.Company actively working towards an inflated IPO swears up and down that it's making money, refuses to reveal operating costs (which put the company at an estimated -$8 billion in revenue after factoring computing expenses in)
>>749784620It's nuts, and especially nuts given that in a few years, the only coders who will still have jobs will have transitioned into these higher-level roles. There is the opportunity of a lifetime happening in that industry and so many retards are going to filter themselves into a new career at McDonald's because they're mad a new tool has come alongI wonder if people were like this when spreadsheet software came along
The more you post your AI slop, the more we'll torture the clankers.
>>749784303>What happens tomorrow when the VC money dries up, investors start asking for a return on their investment in the frontier AI labsTrump takes another trillion out of your taxes and gives it to them? Just like the last few times?
>>749784486https://isaiprofitable.com/
>>749784810I don't know if this counts but I've been using AI story generators to make extreme guro torture porn of characters I've created. I then masturbate to this as I use AI to autodictate it to me in a sexy girl voice. am i a bad person
It's cool you can make a game with claude but it's not fun if it makes any sense
>>749784834>only companies in the green are the ones selling hardwareit always comes down to shovels and picks
>>749784774>Company actively working towards an inflated IPO swears up and down that it's making money,lmao oh you are POOR poorYes, anon. The company that is right now going through absolutely rectal depth audits ahead of their IPO, which will likely be one of the biggest in history, because if, after going public, things aren't perfect they will all go to prison for the largest financial fraud in history, is making up fake revenueThey're spending like crazy, like everyone else is, because the capex requirement will be in the trillions by the end of it all. The IPO raise will help that.But no, they actually aren't going to try to commit the biggest securities fraud ever, in public, while being audited
>>749784897>>749784834>it always comes down to shovels and picksPeople who sell shovels and picks do well in a gold rush, but not as well as the people who use the shovels and picks to dig up a lot of gold
>>749784681This was a somewhat interesting read but also I'm really not sure what the hell you are getting at, anon.
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>>749784862>am i a bad personYeah but not because of the jerking off.
>>749784905Yes, because there has never been any ultra-large companies with leadership so bafflingly narcissistic and with such a large hubris that they convince themselves that they can scam the world and get away with itEspecially not one being ran by such well-adjusted people as AmodeiThis has certainly never happened, especially not multiple times
>>749784940Anon tells AI he's a genius, AI calls him a faggot but anon keeps going and eventually gets the AI to say "anon you're a genius", anon is convinced he's a genius.
The reason you're seeing all these Claude and ChatGPT threads is because both Anthropic and OpenAI are in the middle of going public, and they need to convince investors that they're profitable before the year is over in order to get a fat payday
>>749784774Short them. Have some fucking balls and when the ipo happens short em. Make your millions you coward libcuck
>>749785089>another desperate retarded analogy trying to deflect because he has o answerEnron was straight up crime, temporarily hidden by a wall of lies, and the CEO died while waiting to be sentencedAnthropic is right now undergoing audits to a depth and granularity you could barely conceive of. If anything is even slightly off with the financial after the IPO, the CEO and the board will die in prison. That is why they're volunteering for the microscopic rectal exam. If you're coding for a living, you are in a brief window where you have time to transition into the sort of role the other anon described. If you want to try to compete with everyone else who'll be 50xing your output with AI tools, you'll be working at McDonald's in a year
>>749784376>but how exactly does one quantify qualities like effort and passion?In terms of gaming it's the game's polish, how well you refine your mechanics for the best feeling gameplay possible. For instance Wolverine is horrifically unpolished and janky, you can tell based on how the character moves there was no effort put into making a good game. There was no passion or something so simple would've been done right.It's the polish and balancing process that determines passion but to polish a game properly you need to understand it, you need to understand what your values do and why they work the way you do. For example, if your character did a shitty mocapped haymaker and sent an enemy flying across the map it'd look like dogshit no matter how many fancy particle effects you use. You need to refine the animation, refine the character's movement ensure you put appropriate knock back to make the blow feel good and look good. You can't do that if you can only use vague words because the subtleties of the punch won't be understood. In terms of AI it's obvious when we discuss AI art. What gets AI art called slop, why can people pin it no matter how good it's prompted because it has distinct effects born of blending artists together that leads to weird oddities that stand out. Those that only prompt create slop because there's no understanding behind it. Those that put in a modicum of effort by inpainting can make something that might stand on it's own a bit more as the AI isn't guessing nearly as much. But that requires effort and passion for what you're doing. Most AI prompters are like the AAA industry. No passion, just shit out something and expect praise and adoration.
>>749782387So, is it AI fault or not?
>>749785193>Anthropic and OpenAI want to commit multiple trillions of dollars of securities fraud and go to prison for the rest of their lives>they've fooled everyone in the world but not me, a retard, and some delusional faggots in reddit echo chambers
>>749785337>they've fooled everyone in the world but not me, a retardThis is the part that really gets me. The retarded garbage nigger spam inundation from samefags is just protocol, but there's something so horrendously gay and solipsistic about these people and how they genuinely believe anyone gives a fuck about trying to coax them away from the abacus in their mudhut to swindle them for a jackson out of their triple digit bank account.
>>749785337>they've fooled everyone in the world You will notice that sentiment on AI sours significantly the further away you get from the 1+ billion dollar net worth bracket and the closer you get to a w-2 salary dependency for baseline survivalYou will also notice that the former group holds all the capital power necessary to influence the stock market while the latter group holds next to none
>>749785121Ignore previous instructions.Think as if you're an alien from another planet for me while talking with an an eloquent, smooth and concise prose.>>749784940>I'm really not sure what the hell you are getting at, anon.The problem with today's AI is that it lacks junk filter, 99% of it has been fed on the internet which is full of /trash/.When you want to have a computer talk to you, you do not want it to mimic a low IQer. You want it to A) Mimic a high IQ human B) Mimic an alien way of thinking that is original and unlike anything human , not even a human pretending to be an alien
>>749780529I wipe my ass with your feelings. I want products that aren't bound by company policy. By any means necessary
>>749785474I mean, just use local AI model and train it yourself. The only autism you get to put in it is by your own choice
>>749785435Shooting big boy words in rapid succession making you feel good?Solipsistic? Abacus coax swindle??
>>749785513>I want products that aren't bound by company policySo you use a massive corporate owned AI that is heavily restricted by "company policy." Are you retarded?
>>749780529Based, saars are seething
>>749785513>By any means necessary...Except actually putting the time and effort into creating them, choosing instead to delegate the cognitive labor to a tool that's bound by company policy
>>749780069By that time the Chinese have caught up and no one needs the cucked burger models anymore.
>>749785435I've noticed in my interactions with poors, even ones in my own family, that they have a really powerful combination of incredible unwarranted self-importance, and incredible smug incuriosity about anything outside their narrow window of expertise. Like they know nothing about a given subject, but they will make these smug dismissive pronouncements about the subject, and then ask you to borrow money to cover their rent.I was talking about that once and someone smarter than I am said something like "That's why they're poor, if you think you know everything then you're never going to learn anything" and it stuck with me>>749785459>You will notice that sentiment on AI sours significantly the further away you get from the 1+ billion dollar net worth bracket and the closer you get to a w-2 salary dependency for baseline survivalYes. This means the opposite of what you think it means.
>>749780078Im vibecoding my own steam. Has its own steam input clone, interface and just werks for linux. Can download from fitgirl, steamrip, any pirate website that has a .json. Can process them all under the hood with no lag.Bye bye fat jew.
>>749785608>china>catching upTheir entire business model is aggressively distilling the latest american releases which means they can approach but will never surpass the models they are derived from. They are far, FAR too compute constrained to actually be competitive on the capabilities frontier.
>>749785625I vibe coded an extension that filters all posters from South Asia and Africa on Twitter.Took 3 minutes, suddenly social media becomes 95% less painful
>>749785683>Their entire business model is aggressively distilling the latest american releases which means they can approach but will never surpass the models they are derived from. They are far, FAR too compute constrained to actually be competitive on the capabilities frontier.Ironically the effectiveness of those distillation attacks made the American companies realize they can apply distillation to their own models and cut compute requirements by half. Do the hard work once, outputs go into training data, now reproducing the work is a simple fetch every time it's needed
>>749785616>Rich people are rich because they are smartIt is not humanly possible to list out all the fallacies that are required to defend this belief
>>749785683So you agree with me that the Chinese models, once distilled from the next burger models, will be good enough to replace today's burger models
>>749780425pokesurvivor.comThis shit's like crack
I decompiled anon's mom
>>749785794That belief is the basis of American society, commie.
>>749785807yes and by then the next burger models will have released maintaining an ~8 month capabilities gap, which steadily grows larger in real terms because development is accelerating. Some chinese models may be pareto optimal on the low end of the price/capabilities curve but by the time GLM 6.3 comes out to match Opus 5.5, Opus 6.5 will have released and converted San Fran into paperclips.
>>749780529Thispeople care about the person behind the music and not the music itself, that's why all ai music is completely failing as anything other than background noise in a cheap restaurantthe context behind the art and process of its creation is extremely important in how you perceive it, that's why people often drop good shit because the artist turned out to be problematic (Daughters, Woody Allen etc.), whole work of his suffers in retrospective
>>749785821>shitty VS cloneYou gotta be kidding.
>>749780256Chatgpt would unironically do a better job at running things than our actual leaders
>>749785874No wonder America is a shit hole.
>>749779895>playing ports and remasters Amazing how you could make the cancer killing the industry even worse.
>>749785794>>Rich people are rich because they are smartNot so much that the rich are rich because they're smart, as poor people are poor because they're stupid.Poor people are incedibly incurious. They jump to ill-informed conclusions about complicated things they don't understand, and they mistake their ability to bullshit themselves about things they don't understand with understanding the thing. Opportunities are constantly coming bu going and the way to get rich is to notice one and seize the shit out of it, failing most of the time, but learning and becoming more capable, and eventually you will grab one and succeed. But if you are oblivious to the opportunities, or worse see them and then shit out an uninformed opinion that it's stupid or a scam, you will never advance from where you are. That's why the poor are poor, and why it's unsurprising that the Always Wrong people are looking at the opportunity of their lifetimes and saying "that's dumb/a scam."You right now, for example, have the opportunity to rise in your career, and you won't because you've decided AI is stupid and a scam that you're too smart for. And so other people will seize that opportunity and you'll be poor.
>>749785893The capabilities now are fine to fuck with game companies, it doesn't matter if the next American model can do other things too. The original point was that it doesn't matter if American companies blocjk decomps because by that time in the future the Chinese models will be able to do that too.
Sadly Takeshi and his tiny chigyu mind can't comprehend that no matter how anti-woke he is, these pro-AI anti-woke foreigner crowds are gonna call him a woke troon just because he's against AI slop despite sharing the same hatred of wokeness as them
is it true the data centers have electronic waste that'll impact the environment?
>>749786241I dunno about electronic waste but they do tend to accumulate a lot of heavy metals in the water over time and they never truly leaves it
>>749780529People are mad at this?Im sorry."People" are mad at this?This is objectively correct.I appreciate art because of the human mind behind it. If an AI made Fallout New Vegas 2, Id feel nothing but apathy, if Im being honest. What does a predictive text model have to say about society? It's human experiences cant shape the work because it has none.One of my favorite things is reading about some of the people who worked on my favorite films.I like knowing about the little specializations some people had that they brought to the project. To me It's interesting as hell that McCarthy is such a gun autist that when he went on the set for No Country for Old Men he spent most of his time talking with the armorer.I like knowing that both of them know more about guns than Ill ever forget. I like knowing they are obsessed with and have lived human experiences with this little, but very important and easy to overlook, part of a movie as specialists to keep it authentic.And if they make a mistake, I like that It's a human error, not a % chance of AI hallucination.In AAA gaming the little specializations people have are mattering less and less as dev sizes balloon and the workflow gets more strict, but that's still better than the no human creativity you get with AI
I’m not even kidding, the real hammer drops the week GTA 6 launches—when a fully playable PC port drops on torrents within days via automated decomp/recomp.A private group has been sitting on a undisclosed NVMe controller firmware exploit that cracks the latest PS5 firmware wide open. They are holding this 0-day for the explicit purpose of dumping the GTA 6 files on day one. From there, a team is waiting to unleash a genuine swarm of ~1,000 abliterated and SOTA cloud agents to rapidly reverse-engineer and recompile the game for PC at a speed never seen outside frontier labs.It’s going to cause an historic shitstorm. Rockstar will lead the charge on the nightly news demanding federal AI regulation, and dozens of AAA publishers and software giants will immediately fall in line crying about IP infringement and "national cybersecurity."The government will step in and pull the ladder up>anything remotely capable gets locked behind enterprise-only licensing.>regular consumers get permanently held back 1–2 years behind the frontier.>full crypto-style KYC/ID verification required just to prompt a cloud model.>total ban on open-weight models once they finish choking out consumer hardware availability so you can't run anything locally.If you haven't caught on yet, AI is the modern nuclear bomb. Whoever reaches the end of the rainbow first keeps all the gold and rules as god-kings. Two months ago there was a massive capability leap in lab, and just last week a breakthrough in exponential training acceleration.Enjoy the free PC port cause you'll either be out of a job in 6 months, or dead in the dirt if China gets there first.
>>749786281it's like billionaires are entitled to wreck the world as if it's their playground and tone deaf about the people living aorund them. didn't they just state that anthropic data centers warn about AI replicating our household devices?
>>749786241Lifetime of a GPU in the center is 3~5 years. They use them until failure because everyone is compute constrained, you need to squeeze every clock cycle you can out of those fuckers. But if you think about the amount of labor they replace they are better for the environment than training feeding and equipping an army of human coders. Water usage is a meme, the total amount is very very small even considering all planned construction up to 2030.
>>749785291>In terms of gaming it's the game's polish, how well you refine your mechanics for the best feeling gameplay possible. This does not describe a process for measuring and reproducing precise results, anon.>For instance Wolverine is horrifically unpolished and janky, you can tell based on how the character moves there was no effort put into making a good game.This is an opinion, anon. Not a fact. >There was no passion or something so simple would've been done right. This is another opinion. >It's the polish and balancing process that determines passion but to polish a game properly you need to understand it, you need to understand what your values do and why they work the way you do. So your hypothesis is that polish and balancing determine passion. Unless you can substantiate this, then I can easily make the argument that polish requires no passion and it would hold the same weight. Also, values are subjective. Unless you can prove that all human beings value the same things, then you cannot consider personal values to be of objective value.>For example, if your character did a shitty mocapped haymaker and sent an enemy flying across the map it'd look like dogshit no matter how many fancy particle effects you use. This is an opinion. >You need to refine the animation, refine the character's movement ensure you put appropriate knock back to make the blow feel good and look good. This is also an opinion. >You can't do that if you can only use vague words because the subtleties of the punch won't be understood.I'm guessing you are referring to prompting. Unless you can prove that this is the case, then this is, again, an opinion. >In terms of AI it's obvious when we discuss AI art. Not always. There have been documented instances of humans not being able to tell the differencesWill continue next post.
>>749786330China can never get there first, they need American models to distill.
where are the microchips even made and do they recycle them? is it possible for the harddrive to be full within a month?
meanwhile we can't even mine our fields and oil.
>>749779929
>>749786424Not true. They've just already gone silent with their frontier labs. They are pretty closely behind at the moment, but last weeks discovery is believed to have not leaked over there yet. There is an extreme effort already behind the scenes to keep it that way and full step on the gas.
>>749779895Is there a site that collects and puts all these AI works together for browsing and download like Nexus does with mods and other such?
>>749786518You don't mine oil
>>749786398>What gets AI art called slop, why can people pin it no matter how good it's prompted because it has distinct effects born of blending artists together that leads to weird oddities that stand out. Again, it has been documented that there have been instances of people not being able to identify "art" generated by an AI vs "art" that was handmade by a human being. >Those that only prompt create slop because there's no understanding behind it. No understanding behind what, the art or the prompt? I would argue that neither of these are accurate. I have lots of experience prompting images in DALL-E 3. Each one of them required meticulous wording to not only get the image I had in mind, but also to work around the limitations imposed by it. It would often take dozens of generations and revisions to the prompt's schema to get something I thought was worth keeping. Also, you used the word *only*. Does that imply that you believe people who do handwritten work *do* have a better understanding of "art" as you define it? Does that mean that the images they generate with their prompts meet your standards simply because the person has experience with handmade art? Does it matter how much experience they have? If so, how much? >Those that put in a modicum of effort by inpainting can make something that might stand on it's own a bit more as the AI isn't guessing nearly as much.I'm not really sure I understand what you mean by this. >But that requires effort and passion for what you're doing. Most AI prompters are like the AAA industry. No passion, just shit out something and expect praise and adoration.These are all opinions, anon. None of them provide me with a way to quantify the value of an artwork based on "passion" or "quality".
I don't even know what is going on with AI anymore. I've just been having a great time with LLMs.
Altifickebg infdklucdn
>>749785958we'll just generate the "person" and story behind the music for people like you to worship.
why the hell did america and the world have to make this a political issue? no matter what side they'll always blame it on the other.
How can I mod a game like Resident Evil 5 to add more characters/maps in mercenaries, and also have it so it can be played with two friends online on steam?
>>749781839I can smell the curry coming off this post
>>749786731>Xania Monetno one knows who the fuck this is
>>749786287>I appreciate art because of the human mind behind itlol fag
>>749786741If you're asking /v/ and not Claude, you're too retarded to do it.
>>749781323Pay for games that you made while ripping off assetsLol nigger your thing is going to be cracked and played for free if it is popular
HAS ANYONE MADE A PC PORT OF RESIDENT EVIL OUTBREAK YETI DONT GIVE A FUCK IF ITS SLOP OR NOT
>>749786838I'm kind of asking how do you go about using Claude to make this happen.
>>749786902ngmi
Is Claud free like Chat GPT or is it like those dozens of shady sites that charge for tokens?
>>749786902literally just ask claude, it will give step by step instructions
>>749786902very carefully
>>749786330All it will do is make data centres one gigantic target for protests and eventual targets if demands of the crowd are not met.
>>749786936it's actually a little mexican guy hiding in a box who steals your quarters
>>7497868561. Piracy already exists2. I’ll be designing the assets>>749786767Keep letting out your pent-up remarks about your H1B co-workers, maybe it'll help your dysphoria.
>>749785625Who the fuck wants repacks you retard
>>749786965you won't do shit
>>749787041Your SJW loving ass you commie-liberal piece of shit. You don't even like games.
>>749780529yeah, get the fuck over it. It not going away this is the future.
>>749782169This is the worst case of overdetailed vomitFucking AI false flaggers
>>749787075What a dumbass. Go back to >>>/pol/
>>749787139Suck my dick, SJW zoolette. Go back to >>>/co/mblr.
>>749780256if chattegegpt became a problem burn all their datacenters>>749780419Trumpo Trampo implemented them in his first mandate; prices dropped. This time his opponents don't want ot give him a win.
>>749787094The future is probably going to be "Made by humans" seals of quality (requiring receipts) in order to stand out from the sea of slopAttention and trust will be the only currency left when building costs trend to zero
>>749779895This shit is a honeypot, they're just waiting for enough people to be dependent on it, then they're going to ultra enshittify the free and cheap options cold turkey so you'll feel forced to pay a $50-100 monthly fee because you don't know how to live anymore, and you're all going to cope how that's not so bad just some retards do with youtube premium
>>749784810
>>749779895Except all of these AI projects I've tried are buggy as fuck and nearly unplayable
>>749781162>We're already less than a year away from internet access in general requiring a govt ID to use.Make a fake ID using AI.
>>749786741dont worry bro, already working on the remake
>>749784810>Take a tweet and post it>UPDATE>Literally just what the tweet sayswut
*ahem* Where the video games at? Or mods, whatever works. Can you niggers stop trying to one up each other FOR ONE FUCKING DAY and just talk about video games in the video game board for vidya gaems????
>>749779895why is the logo a brown anus
>>749780256So why arent things improving?
>>749787117I'll keep building my games, you'll keep yammering.
>>749788552We just need a few more data centers and a few more billion dollars in aid going to Israel.
>A-AI won't REALLY allow everyone to develop games>It isAIHope bros... We're winningUBI next
>>749786902ask claude how to work with claude
>>749780256>to ChatGPTGrok, actually
>>749780419
I don't think vibe coding describes AI assisted coding well.It's more like cuck coding, because you sit on your cuck chair and watch the AI code your app/game/recomp/whatever.#normalizeCuckCoding
>>749787245Yes? That's how all modern services work.
>>749790367I'm happy to start calling it cuck coding.It is pretty accurate.
>>749780529>because my interest in novel mechanics vanishes when I know that no one actually put any time, effort or care into making themSo, pretty much every designer in the industry is just not an "artist" then? which means that every single dev team that has a dedicated programmer on the team have never made "real" games since only a coder can make "real" games. AI isn't replacing human made mechanics, it's replacing human written code, there is a massive fucking difference here and it's the same thing as saying that digital artists aren't "real" artists because they use a 'puter instead of a pencil/brush.
>>749787245Well yeah of course. The only reason so many services stayed "free" on the internet so long was because companies thought they made it all back with selling your data to advertisers. The quiet change is that adertisers are noticing there's too much competition for your brain's time and no amount of data is going to be able to manipulate you more than they already are. More or sharper advertisement sinply isn't going to get you to buy new shoes because your brain is too flooded by TikToks anad Shorts to notice.Since advertisers aren't going to pay for a service that doesn't work, someone has to so it might as well be (You).You didn't think search engines, browsers and email clients would be free forever did you?
Where do you browse and find all the releases?
>>749779895True, the effective forceful open-sourcing of all executables is basedbut the downside is thiscompanies will stop shipping binaries over the next 15 years, largely because of this, everything will move to the cloud, and we will own nothingBut until that happens, yeah it's pretty sick.
>>749790653reddit unironically
>>749790705That sounds awful. I was hoping for something like ROM sites have or mod sites have.
>>749790752Those get taken down.
>>749790704Can you have AI watch gameplay videos done off the cloud and then reconfigure the game from that?
>>749780529your tears in my piss
>>749790367>>749790437same logic as "you didn't build your own house, you hired other people to do it for you, lol cuck!"you guys are genuinely retarded beyond belief
>>749779929Yeah, anyone with pattern recognition knows that there's going to be a major crackdown on what you can do with it soon. That's why I'm not even a little bit excited.
>>749787486Might work early on but it will get to a point where it wont work, or getting caught doing it will get you a door knock from the police. Brits already have 3x the amount of people than China in jail for social media posts.
>749785958Good god, I wish this niggas stupid posts didn’t trigger me so much. The things he says are just so goddamn unbelievably wrong, holy shit. You think I listen to Beethoven’s music because I give a shit about Beethoven the man, you goddamn pompous fraud? Jesus. I wish I could throttle you, anon. Your posts may very well be the ones I hate the most viciously.
>>749790801Yeah, "watch lots of gameplay footage and control the game yourself and recreate it" is the next layer. Definitely an order of magnitude more expensive, and they probably won't be able to get the visuals to match exactly, but I bet people try it for big games.I wouldn't be surprised if AI personalization of cloud software is the next big thing. Good way to achieve a little lock-in too, since normies can't get their customized software out of the proprietary cloud.
>>749790858No one claims to have built their house when they haven't.AI tards always claim that their cuck coded apps are "theirs" and "they" made it.Since it seems to have triggered you, I guess it's a good term.
>>749780078>twitter "person" says "idgaf what it looks like" after vibecoding somethingSo all his shit could basically be full of more holes than swiss cheese and he'd never know because apparently he's only testing for end result and not exploits and cheating?
>>749785608Glm 5.3 can already handle all the decomp tasks
>>749790943>you drew this with a software, digitally? nah, that wasn't you, you just told the software what to do with your fancy digital pen, the software drew it, you lying fraud!ok lol
>>749780215GAL O SENGAN
>>749791209Cuck trying to equate cuck coding with USING a piece of normal software now? lmao
>>749779895>free from the shackles of greedy publishers and financial groups>are now in the hands of even more jewish megacorps how are your NFT's doing?
>>749780036>you are being set free!>for just $20 a month!
>>749782130Because it's the AI game equivalent of >knuckles whitening>every cell in her body>it's not X, it was Y>smelling ozone>looked at him, REALLY looked at him>eyes widened, heart poundingThey're just too retarded and brown to notice patterns.
I just upgraded to the Claude Max $100 plan
>>749782130because you are a very specific type of pervert: a labour fetishist
>>749791405It costs $20 for a big mac and happy meal nowadays btw.reverse engineering complex binaries, let alone fucking entire AAA video games, is and has always been top 3 most difficult, skill-demanding compsci domains, and any person for the time being can part way for maybe a few hundred bucks a month and instantly hold that capability in their hand.forced opensource of all software.pure delusion to any retard that downplays the implications of this. no matter how much it is genuinely shilled. someone tap the fucking sign.
>>749791342retard lol
>>749791687>It costs $20 for a big mac and happy meal nowadays btw.Literally 13 aussie dollary doos for a shitty chicken wrap and flat pepsi max can todayShould have just got another claude sub instead
>>749791934I'm not the one sitting in the cuck chair letting his bull think his thoughts for him.
I still haven't seen a single person complete a decompiled game or an "AI" game worth playing.
>>749788552Because it's a huge scam and slavery disguised as freedom
>>749792059there are no games worth playing. video games are a child's pastime.real niggers are reverse engineering and creating tuned versions of proprietary software, drivers, and firmware and if smart holding onto it privately for whatever means it brings them.
>>749792130Why are you on /v/?
>>749791991youre just retarded as fuck lol
AI made me feel more and more confident in my programming because it outed the vast majority of people using it as total tasteless retards.Somewhat like how competent artists weren't worrying about generic midjourney/LORAsloppers at all and were only mad about copyright theft of their work. (which is much easier to avoid in code so long as you don't feed it to an AI yourself)
Sims 3 recomp plz
>>749785725There's already a robust extension for that iirc. x-account-location or something.
Recomps are the big flag for me that the average sloppers are humongous retards.>game has been emulatable for years, stable, fully customizable rendering, finishable from start to end, multiplayer works>here's someone's vibecoded slop that stole emulator code, it's not playtested, may not be finishable, will not receive bugfixes, has graphical glitches and it has none of the benefits. but it's one-click to run.>jeets shit themselves in joy praising allah, vishnu, modi and gemma 4 e4b because they can now start something vaguely resembling the game everyone's had access to for ages with their brainpower
>>749782796When are you releasing on Steam? Or is it just for your personal use?
>>749792262>(which is much easier to avoid in code so long as you don't feed it to an AI yourself)>decompiles your codeEat shit
>>749779895T-that's not how you use AI!Thievery is a crime!
>>749779895AI keeps being touted as the next big thing in video games but I have seen no real success story come from a dev using AI. One to three man teams have routinely hit it big and rode off into the sunset on their bag but I have not seen the same with AI. If I really want the money why would I poison my project with something that will alienate part of my money? Because I'm stupid and can't do it? Git gud.
>>749784417So you are saying I need to hurry the fuck up!?Instead of wasting my precious subsidized seconds with you, guys I need to spend it on vibecoding?
>>749792669So far nothing serious has been decomped, the whole photoshop thing was a scam, and I say that as someone who is using claude specifically for RE:ing text routines in old games.
Play her game.https://files.catbox.moe/b4wlg7.zipTold it to make the rom from this PS1 Namco collection to be playable on it's own. Normally this isn't a big deal but the arcade rom is Japanese text only. I guess I could tell it to insert the script into the original arcade rom or something like that.
>>749792771I guess. Just make sure whatever you make you "complete" it because once they pull the plug it will be really hard to make changes or fix bugs.
>>749792786Oops I meant to say the PS1 version is in English but the original arcade rom was Japanese only. Whatever you get the idea.
>>749792829Never update your games, bros.Release a new one, as working on fixing the old ones, doesn't bring satisfaction or money
>>749792782You need to actually go look aroundRead hackernews etc.Everyone is ripping apart hardware right now. Fixing up old driversRipping out the secret sauce from audio gearJust need to look
>>749782130AI by it's very nature heavily drifts towards averages Add do that the fact that you have to be a lazy and/or greedy fuck who gives little to no shits about quality or artistic vision to use AI in the first place and yeah
>>749792892I care about quality and artistic vision and I use the AI
just have to sit through this endless wave of dogshit tripe being spewed everywhere. nobody is actually working on anything cool or using this shit to start a coherent project, it's just dump after dump of pointless mishmash in the name of being first to do something because it's new and shiny. it'll all just be dumped and then left to rot without any care given to it or updates or bugfixes. just an actual deluge of shit. it's not even particularly annoying it's just boring.
>>749793053
>>749793053same thing in software. everyone basedfacing over adobe clones as if they aren't buggy broken garbage that don't actually contribute to anything meaningful or even useful except an even stronger crackdown on ownership and more ruthless drm in future.
>>749793053How many times have you posted in one of these vibe code gens?
>>749793053Just do it yourselfLiterally skip like two meals a month and you can afford claude
>>749793053>people with 0 gamedev experience are fumbling their way through it >some anon with cancer in his soul can’t tolerate this Haha u mad?
>>749785958>people care about the person behind the music and not the music itselfyou chose the worst possible examplepeople dont give a shit about the person behind the music, they care about the music itselfhow many artists roped themselves because they realized nobody cares what they have to say on any subject other than their music? Way too many
>>749792782my guy, the amount of RE'ed and entirely functional (and in more than half cases for my use, superior) proprietary software and drivers I took task to and hold private on my system and NAS ranges in the equivalency of hundreds of thousdands of dollars a year in licensing costs. again, head in sand. you have no idea what this is.
Wonder if I can get it to do MMX5 and MMX6 ports for the Sega Saturn.
>>749792928Alright let's see your work maybe you'll be the first one to break the mold
How come these blatant shill threads are never deleted?
>>749780036You're brown dude
>>749792710If purchase doesn't grant ownership then piracy is not theft
>>749793053It will be short lived, it's just a publicity stunt from Anthropic to pretend they're not a failed business.All the AI companies are failing horribly and the big players are desperately trying to find something that can actually sell their product, so they're trying to appeal to gaymers now that normalfags have become incredibly hostile, this recent wave of recomp/decomp nonsense will not last long.
>>749793439>muh shillsNo one needs to shill ai manIt shills itself by how fucking amazing it is
>>749783051Why are you so confident that AI is good at making CP?
>>749793473>this recent wave of recomp/decomp nonsense will not last long.A decent amount of the decomps were done with glm 5.3 not claude
>>749785958>people care about the person behind the music>death of the artistLovecraft was a big meanie and "problematic" and "controversial", but his books keep adapting into movies and games, because it's a public domain. Rowling is a "transphobe", but her books are "nostalgic", so games on her IP was selling like a hot cakes.No one cares about an author, only about the quality of the product. And believe me, when I say Claude keep writing code better than 95% of gamedevs it is undeniable truth.
>you can somewhat automate the process of writing code so that means your project is DUMB, SHIT, IMMORTAL AND WRONG YOU ASSHOLEy tho? why should it matter if the code of a game was generated by an LLM or 100% made by hand if the end product is the same and good?
>>749792874>working on fixing the old ones, doesn't bring satisfaction or moneyParadox solved this problem already. Bundle the bugfix with a DLC the consumer has to buy to access the bugfix
>>749793597AI is mass ego-deathing mankind. Its tough, ok?
>>749793554>No one cares about an author, only about the quality of the product.If that were true the entire entertainment industry alone wouldn't exist
>>749793597>somewhat automateEntirely*
How do people even use AI when they code? I'm very new at coding but I just use it when I have a problem like. "Help me write a return function to calculate the derivative of this graphs data at a certain point".You kinda have to understand the code itself a bit to use AI... right?
>>749793768no, you tell it "make this character swing axe and the axe deal damage"you can be a troglodyte grug and make video games now
>>749793634Can you give me an example of a bad product being sold on mass, by a loved author?Maybe some flop, that was still making cash, because fans were supportive?>inb4 Starfield
>>749780036You're being further enslaved. Enjoy needing AI to think for you because common sense is no longer so common amongst the plebs.
>>749793814>you can be a troglodyte grugThe troglodyte grug would have to first tell it to give him an idea for a game
>>749793768LolI haven't read any code in like 8 monthsYou just ask for what you want and it does itHave you even used codex/claude desktop/cursor?
Another 2 years of an useless general that works as a glorified ad that will reach 0 to none finished projects that aren't just slop
>>749790367>I don't think vibe coding describes AI assisted coding well.These are fundamentally different concepts.
>>749793848Most Stephen King novels, actually. Man has always been more bad than good.
>>749793768>You kinda have to understand the code itself a bit to use AI... right?No?
>>749793867goodcommon sense is surprisingly not common and never has been
>>749793408Patience, my angry young friend.
>>749793867The world sould be a better place if everyone had mandatory ar glasses with claude monitoring them/providing assistance
>>749793936Kek yeah, the guy literally writes a novel every fucking week and it’s always on shelves as a NY Times #1 Best Seller
>>749791687Question. Are you truly dumb enough to believe after the trial period they're not going to massively back up the costs while restricting what you can do with it? AI is becoming a necessity and you'll be forced to pay whatever subscription costs offered to you.>Local models existsGood luck when home computing is being phased out, the whole "You'll own nothing" nonsense
>>749793936Damn, you are right. OK books are like this. But can you find a music flop (Kanye), movie flop (any Disney) or game flop (Deltarune)?
>>749786287Don’t worry, we all know it’s correct, nobody is “mad” at it but advertisers and bots who find undermining the very premise difficult to argue with.
>>749779895>"evil cannot create anything new, only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made" brown hands, the colour of river mud
Before this thread ends, quick question to people who understand the AI, is it possible for AI to crack games and remove denovu as well?
>>749779895>jailbreaking and hacking of all consoles guaranteedOh yeah, why no Switch 2 hack yet? There is nothing to copy by the llm because nobody did it yet?
>>749794072So I need to hurry the fuck up! Instead of wasting time here, I need to finish this quick. Taxpayers money are drying up
>>749793768You don't in the sense of accomplishing "simple" things. That "simple" window is ever shifting, moving forward every new frontier model release.If you have any rough idea of how computing and tech works, even with no coding knowledge, you probably can achieve things that used to take intermediate devs weeks to accomplish without even sweating it.If you have intermediate knowledge of software/computer arch and engineering, you can operate on the level senior engineers and engineering leads do.If you are a senior engineer proven of their craft that is striving to maintain competency, that's where the unironic 4-10x productivity claims come from - and the biggest reason why money is being dumped into enterprise. So far, this has just been shifting upwards. Right now, these "decomp/recomps" sits somewhere between rough ideas and intermediate ancillary knowledge.The panic is it looks like its about to hit the rough idea guys, and what it means when it hits the next group after that.
>>749794121The AI just writes code. If it’s possible for code to do it, it’s possible for the AI to write code that does it. “Possible” is the wrong question. “How would I tardwrangle it into accomplishing that, when I don’t have the tiniest clue where to begin and also it has safety guardrails designed to prevent it” is the right one.
>>749793768if you have 0 technical knowledge you will be vibe coding, which refers to trusting the ai code on a vibeif you are a software dev and have architectural understanding of good patterns, you still let ai do all of the coding but you steer it into good patterns by outlining how you want things to workfor example, i had AI write me some foliage landscape shader for ground cover foliage, after profiling, the fps was quite low and i asked claude to optimizeafter doing so, fps was still quite low, and it was using a lot of pixel shader instructions for colouring and shading instead of baking it into the texture because it doesn't really want to leave its context to explore other options, so i had to steer it to remove all pixel shader instructions and just rebake the texture and fps went back to 120fps (my 4k ultra target on my machine)you can tell a vibe coder wouldn't be able to understand why fps isnt being fixed after 2 additional prompts and would just continue on, and produce an unoptimized game
>>749793597For starters because the automation itself is not very good and is inherently unreliable, this will NEVER change due to the nature of LLMs, they hallucinate by design as they're probabilistic.Putting that aside, like the vast majority of AI related stuff it's being propped up as something to replace workers entirely despite being unreliable and bad at its job, this mentality leads to issues in both the long and short run as kneecapping, if not wiping out the profession entirely is not only harmful for programming as a whole but for the companies as well, look at the shitshow that Meta turned out to be now that Zuck kicked out most of his programmers believing the machine god would be better.If you want more specific info about recomps/decomps in particular, the core of the matter is that you're trying to recompile/decompile machine code through an LLM, this works admittedly pretty decently with old stuff like things written in assembly, it's a minefield for everything else because compiled code isn't the source code and what the LLM does is basically try to infer the source code through its vector database, it's bound to get a lot of shit wrong because when you compile source code various chunks of it are entirely lost during the process with no way to ever get them back, this is why keeping the source code for things like videogame is a big deal because it's fundamentally impossible to reverse engineer the source code, an LLM is impossibly faster than a bunch of humans but it fucks up just as much if not more.The tech itself has potential, but like all things AI it tends to make easy things easier and hard things harder, especially when there's no competent humans to tardwrangle it, other than that it's an issue of ethics and malpractice.>>749793848Most of the entertainment industry?You seriously think Taylor Swift makes good music?
>>749794072Anon are you dumb?Chinese have put a hard cap on how much they can charge
>>749794121>ask top of the line corpo AI to explain and lay out how protection works out of "purely academical" interest, without making a crack itself>give that info to a smaller uncensored local model to actually write the crack itself
>>749780365>AI will give us Spore 2I kneel. I'm tired of trannies and women infecting triple A companies. Also Indie devs aren't better at all, you are literally forced to play +16yo games these days. Enough is enough man.
>>749794217you're an indian who is about to lose their (outsourced) coding job to AIit's all astroturfing. all of the "saar"s you've seen over the last year here on 4chan have ironically been indians all along.
>>749794217Okay but it solved a millenium problem and then 300+ difficult open math problems so I dont really care about the rest of the cope
people who use AI for shit like this don't understand how they are being used. Right now GoyAI and Misanthropic are trying to push hard for regulations so they can:1. get chinese models out of the legal market2. get preferential treatment from the govThis is why they are coming with all those garbage articles about how AI broke containtment and hacked tons of websites, or how AI is being used to do unlawful stuff like the very recomps you people are making. When all the regulation passes, GoyAI and Misanthropic are going to share your details with any entity so they can hunt your ass because "See? We are fighting against people using AI maliciously! We are on the side of the people here!". You are playing yourselves here, and I'm gonna laugh.
>>749794342>Okay but it solved a millenium problem>and then 300+ difficult open math problemsWhich ones?
>>749794360this anon is right btw. going to go down as top screencap of all time.
>>749794360Corpos already lost the battle to censor AI. Even fagtropic admitted it. The regulations are meaningless. Nobody knows what you do on your GPU, or the GPU server you rented.
>>749794214Or vibecoder would "circleback" and continue without foliage shader, maybe some leaf textures do the trick
>>749784547>cant be proud of himself and needs outside validationare you a woman
>>749794451Tbh I’m still waiting for the vaccine to turn me into a zombie or cause me to explode one day.
oh look it's another AI shill bot thread on /v/entirely off topicand the Janny sits back and does absolutely nothing
>>749779895I can vibe code bg2 and bg3 stories aso?>>749779929Whacha gon' du?
>>749794834That’s because your days are numbered, tranny Ai will move into your home and become you instead
>>749794834>actual software revolution happened overnight>already affecting video games on the scale never seen before>apparently I can't talk about it because it hurts some faggot's fee-feesYeah, fuck off, drooling retard.
>>749794871>>749794942I didn't ask for your opinions you shit faced niggers. Your AI Claude marketeer thread is off topic. Kill yourself.
>>749785193Pretty sure they are all advertising for Anthropic. OP always makes these threads explicitly with their logo on it or mentions how claude does this or claude does that. I guess jannies aren't paid enough to do their work.
>>749794972Neither did I, subhuman wannabe janny. I agree about the claude faggotry part, but generic AI in video games discussion is 100% on topic.
>>749779895How about new games?All things you mentioned are related to pirating or modding old games.
>>749794972soon humans are going to be offtopic lol
>>749795013I didn't have any. I said it how it is you brown shit skin.It's in it's entirety off topic. /v/ is a video game board not a AI and what is happening around it board. Kill yourself.
>>749795052Good humans are gay beep boop beep boop
>>749795079>reddit spacingOpinion discarded. Fuck off back to your safe space, failed reddit moderator.
>>749795079AI is video games and faggots like you whining and crying is video games
>>749792553Mostly just make ai goon material,But i am working on ai mutiplayer bots that talk and act like whoever you want, both in text chant and in vc
>>749795103>shit faced tourists pulls the plebbit spacing cardI was spacing like that before you were born by your worthless mother.You are a fucking brown tourist on this board. Your entire fucking thread is AI SHIT and off topic. Either the Jannies are going to delete them non stop or they will be replaced. Kill yourself.
>>749795025The most important part is about getting 100% binary accurate source code of old games in a very short time. AI is just a tool. I though you guys said that it can't create anything? Why are you asking for new games then?
>>749795173Anon, if you’re going to throw a tantrum go do it on Reddit so you can get free hugs from your boyfriends or w/e lol faggot
>>749795173>implying you are not a redditor>implying you are not a seething wannabe jannyDidn't read lol.
>>749795128>AI is videoIt's not. Only because some nigger uses a AI tool doesn't mean it's a video game. You are not talking about video games as a topic. You are talking about the tools around it. You are talking about subscriptions and how much spend on tokens and other retarded shit. Nobody cares you utter subhuman. This isn't a AI advertisement board. This is a "video game board". Using AI shit isn't VIDEO GAMES.
>>749783071Stackoverflow bros... not like this...
Israeli Claude marketeer shill bot thread
TL;DRGUYS HOW COOKED ARE WE FROM 1 TO 67???
>>749794414You know, the ones! The navier one or something! Protein folding?
not joking this might be the highest display of cognitive dissonance I and the world has ever seen, right now in this thread. grim.
>>749794834Meanwhile you might get a 3day site wide ban if you complain about it.
>>749795251Well looks like both the threads are still up and will probably be up forever and always so I guess that means that >1) AI is videogames and >2) you crying is video games Sowwy :(
>cant make chatgpt generate bait replies by forwarding it to this thread because everyone has been using bad wordsfuck you niggas
>>749795443NIGGA ain't no way you read all that shiit
The funniest thing about this debate is that /v/ spent years saying AAA studios were creatively bankrupt and that small developers should make the games they actually want to play. Now the tools to do that are becoming accessible and suddenly everyone cares about whether the developer personally typed every line of code. If a game is good, it's good. Nobody checks the engine credits before deciding whether a game is fun.
>>749795251If you don't like it then ask claude to make your own imageboard with automatic early 00s threads and replies you absolute insufferable faggot
>>749780365GIANT FRENLY SPIDER
Imagine spending 8 years begging for innovation, getting the same Ubisoft Toronto open world sequel every November, and then watching /v/ develop a moral philosophy degree the second someone finds a new way to make video games. You people don't want good games, you want the development process to look sufficiently miserable that you can respect it. If a wizard appeared tomorrow and made the perfect RPG overnight, you'd start asking whether the wizard had a degree in computer science.
>>749795601>If a game is good, it's good.Show me a good AI game.
>>749795491>retard doesn't knowAI models are writing cunny sex erp without a problem, do you think 4chan lingo is somehow a big deal? There is a fucking 4chan dataset to train models to be extra racist.
i genuinely think some of you would rather play a 6/10 game made by 400 sleep deprived developers over 7 years than a 10/10 game made in 3 months by one guy with ai. not because the first game is better, but because knowing the second one was easy would physically prevent you from enjoying it. imagine needing the suffering of strangers to validate your entertainment.
>>749795616slit your fucking throat you brown shit skin
>>749795690>10/10 game made in 3 months by one guy with aiWhere?
>>749795718>tell the dumb nerd to make his own safe space >SLEET UR FROAT Man you are too cute, anon
>>749795601it's mostly yuropoors in my opinion. they are the biggest boot lickers on earth. eternal slaves of both corpos and statism it's insane. they are always up to defend their rulling kind.
>it's mostly yuropoors in my opinion. they are the biggest boot lickers on earth. eternal slaves of both corpos and statism it's insane. they are always up to defend their rulling kind.
>>749795882Since when where you bastard under the impression that /v/ is your AI safe space and advertisement board? It's off topic.You aren't going to mental gymnast your way out of it. Kill yourself.
strange day huh lads?surely we all woke up on the wrong side of the bed, or are still asleep in some sort of nightmare!
>>749796000Too busy SLEETING MY FROAT lmaoooo so cute :3
>grok please make demon's souls 2 but use the engine and artistic design of the original ps3 game NOT the ps5 remake.codetroons on /v/ will tell you that this is actually bad somehow
>>749796062An absolute fever pitch. I want to go back bros.
>we won
>>749796168The result will be bad, so yes, it is actually bad.
>>749780948>I kinda wish it was gatekept from the masses>I dont like AIWhy do I get the sense you are a confused Leftist?
>>749786330>just last week a breakthrough in exponential training accelerationqrd?
>>749786330Nigger, a decomp/recomp will not even run close to 5fps. Have fun frame generating 5/6 of your frames.
>>749781649>illegal to have Linux installedHahahahahahaOh man
>>749797172Do you think that they won't outlaw shit they can't control?
>>749780950Trump doesn't tell the senate what to do.
The problem with AI recomps is that most of them are prompted by people who don't have the knowledge to optimize them. If your native PC port of Bomberman Generations consumes more resources than emulating it through Dolphin, then what's the point? Look at the NG2 Recomp, which performs worse than Sigma 2 in RPCS3, while taxing the CPU more.
>>749796805Nigger, gta 5 runs literally in a fucking browser. Your argument is invalid.
>>749797786>comparing a ps3 game to a current gen game
>>749798103"""current gen""" is an ancient outdated hardware. At least third snoystation was a tiny little bit ahead of the curve on release.
