Do you remember Ardine?I forgot everything about him and his motives.
Miss that nigga
>>749888901never went back for episode Ardan so no
AAAH I'M DEATH STRANDING NOCT I'M DEATH STRANDING AND I LOVE IT
>>749888901why do you wanna talk about bad games you or nobody else likes?Does it have something to do with you being paid to spam final fantasy content on this imageboard perchance?
>>749888901he was incel jesus and hated his Chad brother
>>749888901Absolute kino, Ardyn did nothing wrong.
>>749888901I only remember that lotus juice song.
>>749888901Absolutely justified behaviour, fuck the old kings
>>749889802his brother was a slimy jealous little bitch, fuck him and fuck bahamut
was he not just fucked over by the people he was supposed to use his magic to protect and got mindbroken because of it?Basically Balos from Cavestory
best thing about FF XV/VERSUS.he deserved a better game.
>>749890296Iirc yeahHe was the chosen king but Noctis' ancestor fucked him over, so he seethed for millenia and schemed to destroy his brother's dynasty even after they proved to be pretty good people who would've likely welcomed him back into the family as royal advisor if he revealed himself to them.
Although Ardyn is bad, he's still way better than Utlima.
I still don't know what the story of ffxv is
>>749890986road trip --> fight off invaders --> save the world from darkness
>>749890986>dude is chosen by God to lead the chosen people>his brother screws him over and becomes king instead>an unknown amount of time later, the guy comes back>destroys the kingdom his brother built out of spite, despite the fact his descendants are completely innocent>gets his ass kicked by the last descendant of his brother>then gets his ass kicked again in the afterlife by the same guy
>>749888901>I forgot everything about him and his motives.He's an immortal king from Noctis' line that absorbed all the plague/curse/dark magical stuff and I think he really just wanted to die and when evil to force Noctis to kill him or something. He was basically Jesus.
>>749891261isn't that the story of the jews with david/essau joseph/judas.
>>749890986In the actual game itself:>2000 years ago, Noctis' super-great-uncle was a great healer. Everyone loved him, but he was told by a magic crystal that he's actually an asshole, so he got imprisoned and then turned insane>2000 years later, the super-great-uncle decided to destroy the world by blacking out the sun in order to trick Noctis into killing him because he's immortal and wants to die>Also he kills your girlfriendIf you read all of background material that's not in the game:>A billion years ago, a space disease called the starscourge drifted onto the planet. It turns you into a monster when it's nighttime, but is photosynthetic>Bahamut really wanted to get rid of it, so he decided to destroy the world by blacking out the sun, then return the sun after the starscourge dies off from lack of light>But he can't do this himself, so he forces the healer into doing it by magic, and pretends to be a cool helpful guy who isn't actually involved with anything>Noctis never learns the truth of what actually happened because although his super-great-uncle was forced to do all of this and was innocent, he also genuinely is a tremendous asshole and just doesn't tell you anything important because he doesn't care
>>749891816kek
what is the point of coming up with a cracked out story if you don't properly reveal it to the player
Idk I dropped it once I reached Galdin Quay but I think he was there
>>749891816>he decided to destroy the world by blacking out the sun, then return the sun after the starscourge dies off from lack of lightI thought he gigaflared the entire planet.
>>749888901I'd say he was the only good thing about FF15. All he wanted was to help his people, and his own brother and the gods themselves betrayed him. He was right to be pissed.
Genuinely a shame we didn't get the true ending DLC of Noctis and Ardyn teaming up to kill the real evil, Bahamut.
>>749892106sorry chud gonna have to go play comrades if you wanna fight the big bad :^)
I always debate myself on whether 13 or 15 is the worst FF game.
>>749888901Fun villain but he only exists because Nomura was basically a fan of Reno/Keiji Fujiwara.
Villain motivations:>Garland: I want to destroy the world>Mateus: I want to own the world>Xande + Cloud of Darkness: I want to destroy the world>Zeromus: I want to replace humanity with my species>Exdeath: I want to destroy the world>Kefka: I want to destroy the world>Sephiroth: I want to kill everyone who's not me>Ultimecia: I want to kill everyone who's not me>Kuja: I want to destroy multiple worlds>Seymour: I want to destroy the world>Vayne: The political system is horseshit so I must overthrow it by killing just a shitload of people>Robopope: I'm sad God left, so I'll summon him back by destroying the world>Ardyn: I want to destroy the world>Ultima: I want to replace humanity with my speciesVayne is the only one whose motivation is even remotely reasonable.
>>749893470Ultima was very reasonable, he just wanted humanity to do the single thing that they existed to do
>>749893470>MotivationsThose are goals, you dubmass.For instance, Sephi is doing that because he is crazy and believes he is the chosen one. That is an actual motivation, not just 'I want to destroy everyone who is not me'
>>749893470Ultimecia kept getting raided by SEEDs.
>>749893470FF12 was honestly kind of difficult to grasp and follow because the conflict was complex and the way the characters spoke made it hard for me to understand.
>>749888901I hate FFXV so much it's unreal yet my local used vidya store has a steelbook copy and the steelbook is fucking dope. I'm ashamed to say I'm going to end up buying this piece a shit a second time..
>>749892817You and me both brother. You and me both. What's crazy is that XVI sucks ass too yet both XV and XIII are both so clearly worse it made me realize there were layers of shit so deep they cease being quantifiable by anything other than vibes.
>>749893470I hope this isn't genuinely your understanding of each villain
>>749888901I never figured out what his motives were in the first place. FFXV's story made no sense.
To be honest the only memorable FF villains to me are Kefka, Sephiroth and Ultimecia.
>>749894835He resented a world which shunned him after he sacrificed his wellbeing to help them
>>749894835>FFXV's story made no sense.Because it's literally not in the game. You need to buy half a dozen DLCs, watch a movie, watch an anime, and read a couple light novels to piece together what amounts to a D+/C- tier store. Considering how miserable the game itself was only the most dedicated of no life mentally ill schizos would do such a thing.
>>749893470>>Ultimecia: I want to kill everyone who's not meVery relatable villain desu
>>749893470>>Seymour: I want to destroy the worldI think thats maybe too harsh. Didn't he just want to make everyone unsent so they could all live together without ever dying or something? He never seemed that evil to me. He just seemed kinda dumb.
>>749894912and the audience is supposed to clap for that? I understand tragic villains but this is senseless
>>749893470Its a shame FF12 has such complete aids gameplay and a party of unlikeable characters.
I hated XV so much it too me nearly a decade to beat/platinum it. I started XVI this year and dropped it within a couple weeks. Will it take me more or less than a decade to go back to it? Who can say?
>>749895102Clap if you want, I'm not making any comment on the quality of the writing, I'm just clearing up what his basic deal was
>>749895098>He never seemed that evil to me. He just seemed kinda dumb.No it's both. Wanting to wipe out all life so that there can be no death is stupid, patricide and years of subversive scheming in service of that goal is evil
>>749895219I got ff16 for free and couldn't force myself to finish it. I cant even remember what point I dropped it but I must have been at least half way through. It was just so insanely boring. I think it might actually be worse than 13 and 15 somehow.
>>749895342>Wanting to wipe out all life so that there can be no death is stupid,In the real world yeah but in the world of FF10 couldnt everyone just all live as unsent or whatever if his billions must die plan worked?
>>749894928Not really. Ardyn and Bahamut explained it clearly in the game.>>749895102He absorbed cancer from others to heal them. Now his body hosts gigacancers and he was rejected from becoming king. His crashout wsa 100% valid.
>>749894742>>74989521916 is very boring and not worth another playthrough.Use a mod to unlock the hardest difficulty and play that way. You are missing nothing playing the normal difficulty. The game is itself just very very mid. I wouldnt say outright bad but it teeters on it
>>749895446Not really. Unsent can still be dealt with in various ways. They can be sent by anyone willing to kamikaze them, they can get trapped within the Farplane, they can be corrupted into fiends through the kind of intense resentment that wiping out everyone might foster, they can just let themselves go etc.The population can only ever go down at that point and never recover.Turning everyone into Unsent is beyond retarded, turning everyone into Fayth is the sensible version and it was already done by someone else.
>>749896032Yeah his plan was retarded but I don't think he was actually evil. He was doing it for what he perceived to be a good reason. He thought everyone would be better off.
>>749895383XVI sucks but it still is better than XIII and XV, somehow. The world at least feels developed even if the combat is dogshit and the rpg aspects are non-existant. I haven't finished it either but not because I hate the world, characters, or story but because the gameplay is garbage. XV and XIII also had garbage gameplay but were also bad at everything else.
>>749896145All 3 of them are so terrible its hard to know which is the most terrible.
>>749895603>Use a mod to unlock the hardest difficulty and play that way.I got it on ps5 so no mods. Had I known it ran like complete ass on ps5 however I probably would have bought it on PC but I saw a used copy for like $15 and bought it before doing any research. I'm not worrying about a platinum yet, first step is just finishing the damn thing. I've got to be like 70-80% done with the story I just have to force myself to push through.
>>749895219Why would you platinum a game you hated? I found all the games from 13 onwards impossible to enjoy so I just dropped them.
>>749896264I legit never would have tried XI or XIV if not for XIII, XV, and XVI. They all made me so miserable I actually became desperate enough to try not one, but two, mmos.
>>749896135>He thought everyone would be better offDon't care. Even ignoring the blatantly evil things he did solely for political gain it is still evil to try to override the autonomy of everyone in the world regarding whether they can be allowed to live. I don't buy that his intentions were good to begin with either.
>>749896462>Why would you platinum a game you hated?Because I have a long standing thing about platinuming FF games (except XIII because I had that on 360) and seeing such an easy game to platinum at like 15% on my trophy list for that long slowly drove me to insanity. The best I can say about it is that thankfully the platinum is piss easy so you barely have to do anything post game (probably because XV barely has any post game to begin with.)
Post a better game about friendship you literally can't
>>749896629I like to 100% games too, played all pixel remasters last year and had a blast. Maybe I'll do 7 and 8 too eventually but those are probably my limit. 9 has a pretty annoying cheevo that requires you to speedrun the game for excalibur 2.
>>749896832Yeah I know about IX. I only own that on ps1 so no trophies. I'm sure one day I'll be drunk and buy the remaster for 5 dollars or something and then spend the next 6 months wishing I hadn't as I suffer through the jump rope and frog catching minigames.
>>749889675Square Enix pays me 1£/10 4chan posts. I send the money back to my family with Wise.
>>749891261In the afterlife?does it happen in the dlc?
>>749897258Nta but probably>make a complete edition of your game>don't include all the dlcBravo squeenix
>>749897258I only played it once back when it released before they added or revised anything and I'm pretty sure that after all the ghost kings stab Noctis to death he drops into an afterlife street where Ardyn is waiting for round 2
Did anyone play the demo for FF Resonance? I'm too scared to get my hopes up until I see reviews.
>>749898248I liked the demoFull game should release within a day of when I get tired of no-lifing Dark Arisen 2 so everything is looking good for me
>>749888901Gods set him up and sentence him to eternity of suffering. Then his brother took the credit for saving the planet, became the king and put Ardyn in prison. My boi broke out buck broken by the stars scourge, gods literally subjecting him to psychological torture for some reason and I suspect recreational rapes by his brother. After prison break he was trying to get revenge on the gods and his brother's lineage.In the end he got cucked by all the gods working together with the current king and his ring ghosts.At least he dabbed in shiva and made her kill ifrit.
