YOU HAVE NO MORE EXCUSESDO YOUR FUCKING REPSLEARN TO DRAW
uhhh i think ill just use AI lol/fpbp
A drawing tutorial game similar to Typing of The Dead would be an unironically great idea.
>>750487673*click click**generate*no, die mad
Nah, that's the job of Stable Diffusion and my card.A man prompts.A machine draws.
>>750487673what if i don't want to draw humans though?
>>750487673I didthat's why I work as a professional animator now
>>750487673>LEARN TO DRAWno i'll just keep doodling for fun and making it up as i go long as a fun and relaxing thing to do at museums and gardens.
>>750487673>DO YOUR FUCKING REPSwhich are?
>>750487673Just moved from SDXL models to Anima models. Learning to prompt better now and trying new comfyui plugins. What's your excuse?
>>750488156Dumbell curlPreacher curlhammer curl5 sets of 13 repsDO IT
It would be nice to have a game like this that uses a drawing tablet
>>750487673Cant draw no make realistc cute lewd lolis in on this. Fucking dropped.
>>750488739someone is going to vibecode that idea
>>7504883933 sets of 8 if you're a man
>>750487731I don't know how that would work but I'd like to play it
>>750487673I'm learning guitar. Drawing is cool and all but I can't do everything
that's a really good idea for a program. i did one set earlier today, about to do another
>>750487673how much and can it run on potatos?
>>750487673How’d I do? Please be nice.
>>750488393this but do 6-8 reps with more weight
>>750489415You could have it require drawing something you see to attack it. Most of drawing practice is just drawing actual objects you see. Maybe it could also make you draw shapes and boxes as weaker attacks.
>>750489820Lmao didn't spoiler that, enjoy your ban
>>750489371>>750489845Hyperthorpychads runs this board, get out of my gym.
>>750487694/thread /fpbp
>>750487673I don't like tablet drawing, but I do like drawing. On a whim I decided to draw an old character of mine that I haven't messed with in years. This little guy's name is Redford.
>>750490421Damn son, those are some bad fucking drawings.
>>750487935What do you want to draw
>>750490543They're free hand pen doodles done without any pencil sketching. I think they're pretty good considering this is the first time I've drawn him in years and I did it from memory.
>>750487673Great if it has anatomy and nude versionsShit if it doesn't
>>750490694AI was made for people like you who can't draw.
>>750487935I see a t-rex in the images there, so it looks like it does other things aside from humans.
>>750490778AI is boring. I'll take shitty deviantart drawings over AI slop any day.
>>750490659horses
>>750490902Yeah, you should use AI, your character is literally just the gay fox from Five Nights at Freddy's.
>>750490908Basic construction will carry youAlso basic anatomy is actually pretty similar among all living creatures.
>>750490902>cant draw worth shit>is attempting to draw hideous art anyway>even the worst AI art is more interesting>still hates AIcan any anon explain what goes through the mind of people like this?
>>750490973But I don't want to. >Just the gay fox from fnafI thought he looked more like withered foxy than funtime foxy. Anyways I based him on the splinks model of foxy (you know, the gmod one) so you're not far off. This is a childhood OC of mine, basically just an old toy I pulled out for fun, I'm gonna sit here and pretend he's anything special.
>>750490421Buy a pencil.
>>750489415>horror survival game>when an enemy shows up an image of a weapon appears in the corner of the screen>you've got to draw that weapon to summon that weapon>the more accurate the drawing the more damage it does>drawing a penis allows you to fuck the enemies instead
>>750491159I don't hate AI, I think its a fine tool. I just don't care for AI generated art. Art is a form of expression, its appeal comes from the thought behind it and the hand expressing it. AI art is meaningless because there's no thought or feeling put into it. Its like the artistic equivalent of factory made food. A visual tv dinner. Now it can be used to make good things. Unexplained Oddities was a good series, and it used nothing but AI art. But its appeal came from the human touch that wrote the jokes and put it all together, not the art in a vacuum. Anyways I draw for fun. Yeah I could get a machine to do it, but I want to do it because I like to. Even if I suck, I still enjoy trying. I'm sure there's some vidya you like that you absolutely suck at, but keep playing because you enjoy it.
>>750491298I normally draw with a pencil, I just wanted to do something different today. Changing things up is good. Pens are different and they force you to improvise and work around your mistakes, which I think is a good skill to develop.
>>750490973>>750491159>you're shit! you're shit! Stop doing things you enjoy!mentally ill freaks
>>750491934Ok, luddite.
>>750492063he's a lot more respectable because he does what he does because he enjoys and doesn't just persist out of some ill-informed spite
>>750492224I love to use AI and AI can draw better than he ever will, so I won.
>>750490902you seem to have a solid understanding of structure, i am still missing that, some people just have a nack for it i guess
>>750487673Mildly interested by someone who hasn't drawn in like 7 years.
>>750491709The shapes and curves that make up the foundation of a drawing aren't mistakes to work around. They're the guides intended to keep your ink work from turning into a bunch of mistakes. Of course your work is going to look terrible when you're working around them instead of with them. Teaching yourself to do things wrong isn't good.
>>750492278the fact you need to "win" to make yourself feel better isn't exactly making you look less miserable and resentful
>>750491259Generic furfag slopI don't like AI but I don't like you either.
>>750492449Yeah, I know fundamentals are important. But being able to improvise means you can land on your feet and keep going if you make a mistake, which as a fallible human being, you're going to do. Making less mistakes is better than fixing them, but being able to fix a mistake you can't erase is a good skill to have. I envy painters in that regard, those guys are great about that. I'll turn my fuck ups into happy little trees.
>>750487673I'm trying but low talent means low skill gains
>tfw I got commissioned furry porn again
>>750492660Scam him
>>750492623You are missing the point!Never draw THIS in ink. They are not mistakes, and they're not meant to be permanent.
>>750491159The soulless ainigger cant fathom that someone could enjoy the act of drawing itself
>>750491934>>750492224Thanks for the support anon, but I think you're better off not matching his negativity. If he wants to be upset, then let him, while we have fun with art. You have any drawings to post?>>750492358Thanks anon. It took practice and study to get to where I am. I'm by no means a great artist, and not a particularly talented one either, but that should tell you that you can get where I am too (and probably further) if you practice and study art. This character was the one I learned to draw with, I did a lot of fucking up with him before I got to this point.
>>750487673I do this at my local museum
>>750492874>You have any drawings to post?anything recent? hell no, not especially anything i'm not too embarrassed to share
>>750492616I came up with him when I was a kid, anon. He was quite literally baby's first OC. I think being generic and derivative is par for the course when you're still figuring things out at that stage. But maybe I'm wrong. I'd love to see what you're old art looks like. Not gonna deny the furfag part though. You've got me there.
>>750487673what? no drawing 200 boxes in perspective?
>stop drawing boxes, drawing boxes is gayIs he valid, bros? He worked for Disney and hates boxes.https://youtu.be/oSUXnHvV_8M
>>750493168Drawing boxes is for low iq individuals who can't visualize simple figures in different angles.
>>750493131It's not really learning to draw when all the work is connecting dots with a ruler. But I guess learning drafting is its own skill.
>>750492797Oh, the construction lines. That's just because I'm out of practice. Back in the day I could draw him without them, because I had the shapes and hand motions as muscle memory. If I keep drawing with pen, I can do less and less construction lines, until I don't need any at all. Like Gomez Addams going parachuting. There's also tricks you can do to hide the lines in the final drawing. Like drawing over them to make them look like part of a shape, or working them into the design of the character. Like the bottom of that circle can be the point where his snout meets his head. Or the cross line can be turned into machinery in his eye sockets if I drew the lines fainter. Or i used to do this trick where the construction shapes for his limbs would just become his metal skeleton, and I'd wrap other things around them to bulk him out.
>>750492660What'd they ask for?
>>750493441have you ever heard of shitting dick nipples
Les be real, AI has given us no reason to pick up a pen ever.
>>750492454Winners always win, keep losing, loser.
>>750493038Come on, anon. I'm showing you my old drawings. You can't share one of yours?
>>750493627I've seen it before. Was it literally that?
>am shit at drawing>never got past page 15 or something in loomis' fun with a pencil>want to draw but "can't">except when I'm pressed for time and needed to leave for work 30 minutes ago but I got it in my mind to make some ms paint oc that will realistically only get one reply at most>and I actually find it fun but I don't follow up afterwards for weeks>and I'm still utter shit at it
>>750494436I never did loomis. I just followed a few basic youtube tutorials and practiced drawing shit on paper.
>>750493627i am more of a lipples kind of guy, but they do pair nicely with cumming dick nipples
>>750494036Its funny. Most of these are for game ideas that I never brought to fruition. Redford was for a mascot horror thing (back when that was still a fresh genre) with Resident Evil 7 style gameplay and a hard boiled detective mc. Then it switched to being a fixed camera RE 1 style game where you played as Red, or alternating between the two. That bunny on the bottom right, Clyde, was from an idea for a half life inspired fps that took place in zero G. The whole thing would've revolved around there being no gravity, objects would float in the air and move until something stopped them (so basically any object could become a weapon in pushed), and you had magnetic boots that let you walk on walls and cielings. I even had a dystopian sci fi plot for it about the main characters being genetically engineered animals used to side step inter planetary labor and AI laws. That one on the middle right later developed into a Deus Ex inspired imsim (inb4 "no such thing", you know what I mean) where you played as an umbrella corporation style BOW after a site wide containment failure in a research facility. And that bird on the left was an ex WW1 fighter ace from a comic I never got around to drawing that I toyed with turning into a game. Recently I've been thinking about if Red could be brought back as an RPG maker horror game. That seems a lot more feasible than my lofty teenage dreams. Also here's a really old drawing from when I sucked even worse.
>>750491159At least something is going through their mind. Yours is empty until you ask Claude what should be in there.
>>750494023??? What are you winning?
>>750494023Imagine winning the retard contest, that's not something to be proud of.
i ahve been
>>750495632A lotsa (You)s>>750495734loser cope lmao
>>750493393Still seems like training yourself into bad habits. I've seen a lot of artists choose stagnation and self-indulgence over improvement. It's pretty disappointing when you realize they're not worth following any more. You're in a lot of trouble if you're already of that mindset at the starting line.Anyways, I'll be stealing your OC now, manually.
>>750497853I like the chainsaw fingers.
>>750487673ive let myself stagnate pretty hard, just hard to find the desire to challenge myself. most of my drawfaggotry doesn't even leave /mlp/. im trying, just rarely anything inspiring these days
>>750498524you thought that was worth posting?
>>750498650not really but it was fun to get a (You), thanks for playing faggot kek
>>750487673Is this the amateur art thread?
>>750490421>>750490902that looks like shit you should start with the basics first.
>>750497853>I've seen a lot of artists choose stagnation and self-indulgence over improvement. It's pretty disappointing when you realize they're not worth following any moreThe thing is I'm really not much of an artist, at least not by trade, and I don't have designs on being a professional artist. It really is just for fun. So maybe it is a bit self indulgent and maybe even lazy, but you know, I'm a casual. Besides its not like I can't do it the other way. I just happen to like this way. I saw some professional artist (don't ask me who, its been years) draw his characters perfectly in one go with a pen when doing autographs, and that amazed me. I like being able to do that, and I like the results it gets. But I can and do draw proper images with clean up too. That's just a different thing from these little pen sketches right here. That's a commitment which takes effort. All of this is just me fucking around for fun. I'm much more of a writer. That's what I actually dedicate myself to getting gud at. So the art ends up being second fiddle, a side piece to whatever I'm writing at the time.
>>750498710That guy on the bottom is great.
>>750498524>>750498710nice
>>750497853Split for character limitAs for the image. I'm trying to think of who the style reminds me of. I do like how wildly different in tone and style you've depicted him. He's cute, slim, and sharp looking in mine, while you give him this blocky heavy metal look. I actually did draw him in a more detailed horror style (shame I lost the drawings) but it was a lot more focused on tattered cloth and cross beamed wires, with exposed mechanical and electrical internals that looked like tendons and veins. And his temperment was more like a rabid animal, because the idea with him is that he wasn't just a possessed robot, but some product of witchcraft and mechanical engineering attaching a human soul to animal flesh in a mechanical body. So the animal parts and that spiritual remains of a human are being unnaturally forced together, causing a lot of friction, making agitated and delirious like a rabid animal. And because of the black magic, the flesh and machinery have grown together, so those pistons and wires have real tendons and veins connected to them, and through some of the rips in his outer fabric you could see his organic insides crudely pierced by and tangled with the mechanical ones.
>>750487673What’s the point of learning to draw? Everyone skilled already knows how to, and they’re already making porn of characters I like so I see no point whatsoever.
>>750498836Man, you guys don't pull punches in here. I probably should, but I just don't like drawing boxes.
>>750498524You got any more Roxys?
>>750490421>>750490902>>750491259>>750492874>>750494036>>750495331Cute
>>750499023it's fun to make something that looks good
>>750499052You're trying to draw complex furry garbage you don't have the skillset for you need to learn proper anatomy before you draw shitty calarts furry diaper shit. That's the biggest problem with spergs, unless you have the talent already you shouldn't waste time doing that. Art and illustration is all about habits, once you get good enough you want to make less mistakes and less unneeded strokes and that's when you can just draw freely, after getting that good you'll be thinking shit that wasn't so hard, why can't others do this.
>>750498856You read any Roald Dahl?His writing's pretty well known, but he also throws some drawings into his work.
>>750499179I haven't, but I do like the movies based on his books. Are his books the kind of thing you could read as an adult? Or did I miss the boat on that one. I've recently developed a love for the art in those old British storybooks that were collections of fairy tales with illustrations. I remember it had the big bad wolf dressed in Edwardian casualware smoking a pipe, it was great.
>>750487731
>>750499401I've only actually read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. It's a kid's book, but it's still a legit book. Just don't be surprised if the Oompa-Loompas are little negros in it.
>>750487673Can I cheat in this with AI ?
>>750499081nothing decent so i doodled this one to compensate
>>750499023Because there will always be an 80/20 ratio to how many good drawings you can find.
>>750499108Maybe, but it's more fun to play video games so I'll keep doing that instead.
>>750490421I like it. Has a certain "classic Warner" feel to it.
>>750499154>why can't others do this.Because discipline and building habits is hard, tedious, and boring. Most people don't actually care about habits or the craft, they just want to doodle their characters for fun. >you shouldn't waste time doing that. Is it really wasted time if I had fun?All that said, if you have any studies or exercises you'd recommend, I'd be open to them.
testing webm
>>750499587>Nothing decent >Literally the sexiest thing ever
>>750492278Underage or brown? Call it.
>>750499706test 2, hopefully this fixed the single black frame
>>750499682I was in a classic cartoon phase at the time. I was reading Sabrina Online and watching Looney Tunes, Don Bluth movies, and some other similar stuff, and ended up mimicking the style. You can see how different it is from what my usual style at the time was by looking at read on the left there.
>>750499752Relax, I will protect you from the single black frame.
>>750499709my old roxy's are like actually very bad, from when i was just getting into drawing. i only keep them as a reminder that ive improved since then.i just drew that after you replied because i felt obligated to do something decent-ish >>750499587
>>750499803Post a shitty one so I can see how much you've improved.
>>750487673>video games?
I hope you drawfags aren't too mad about AI making all your effort moot. You can stand in the cuck corner together with programmers.LMAO
>>7504998373 year old drawing, the other is an nsfw animation i never finished
>>750499908oh no, guess we wont have to draw ms paint fart clouds on peaches ass now, fuuuuuck
>>750488393>>750489371>>750490207I do one set of 25
>Have OCD>Cannot go three seconds writing or drawing without an intrusive thought popping in my head that feels like both the pencil and paper I'm using along with the idea of what I am drawing is "tainted" and something bad will happen if I don't get rid of it and wash my hands
>>750487673With AI feels pointless
>>750499682>>750499783Whoops, no. Thought you were talking about the other one. That's just me trying to remember how I drew him before. Honestly I'm impressed how much better I've gotten. It used to take me way more tries to get him right or even good enough. Anyways Red has a big toon influence. I tend to prefer that style of furry art to the overly bulbous and ridge heavy style that replaced it in the late 2000s. Don't mind the modern anime style, but I still prefer this, especially with Red.
>>750487673I don’t even know how to learn how to draw. It’s all too complicated, and I doubt some game will change that.
>>750499498I can not imagine drawing on that tiny ass resistive touch screen.
>>750500050it wasnt so bad, it was fun to shit scribble on miiverse
>>750499998Its all just basic shapes. Circles, squares, triangles, and lines connecting them. Just study irl objects and break them down into component shapes, then try to rebuild them. Once you're able to see the shapes in everything you'll feel like Neo seeing the code in the matrix.
>>750500078Did you do it on a stock DSi or the XL?
I don't know how to even try to draw something. I look at a subject and see regions of color/value with predominantly soft edges. I have no idea how to go about converting that into lines in a page. Trial-and-error doesn't work, either, both due to the sheer number of possibilities, and because nothing I produce ever really looks right or wrong to me. It just looks like meaningless scribbles that resemble nothing and represent nothing.
>>750500121How do you study things? That part doesn’t make any sense.
>>750499917I see what you mean. The body is alright but the face is fucky. You've improved a lot.
>40 dollar gameshits free on my pc, all i gotta do is just open up ms paint and start drawing yo
>>750500169You look at an object and try to break it down into simple shapes. It doesn't have to be an exact fit, just a rough 2d blocking out of the object's silhouette.
>>750490659Tech
>>7504881565 pages of horizontal lines, 5 pages of vertical lines, 5 pages of diagonals, 5 pages of circles, 5 pages of ellipses, 3 pages of boxes in 1pp, 2pp, 3pp each, 20 30s figure drawings
>>750499587You got any more FNAF's? Like any Lolbits or foxes?
>>750500149i had both at different points, obviously the xl was much more manageable, but still a neat challenge >>750500174if its not one thing its another, ill never be a great artist but im still having fun with what improvement i manage
>>750500291short answer: no.long answer: my fnaf stuff is either a few old r34's of vanny, or Roommates art from /trash/ AU furry stuffid do a request but im going through nicotine withdrawls so prob wouldnt be good
>>750500312You're a better artist than me. That's something.
>>750500270and 100 push ups 100 squats 100 sit ups and a 10 km run
>>750500270what is even the point of most of that?
>>750500454Draw something low def, then you can pretend the shakes were a stylistic choice.
>>750500174Cartoon characters tend to look off any time they're drawn in a forward perspective.
>>750500497warmup
>>750500516Its harder to make them look good straight on, but its not impossible.
>>750500497>pencilsThat's how we used to put things on paper.>tabletuh...that's not going to do anything in this setup.>some kind of paddle thingI got no clue what that is.>booksComplete mystery.>gum eraserThese things are awesome. Better than the rubber crap you were expected to buy in grade school.
>>750499179Quentin Blake drew those pictures.
>>750500741Should I know who that is?
>>750500497Muscle memory and shit. Holy shit does that turn drawing into a chore though.
>>750500464all i have going for me is the past 6 years of effort. and all that really is, is just doodling in my favorite threads. comparing time spent isnt fair to anyone>>750500509no clue what to do with it so heres this
>>750500771British illustrator. Did art for some other children's books, but that all got eclipsed. Decades younger than Dahl, didn't do the original publications of his books.
Anima can replicate any art style with all of the soul. There is no fucking reason to learn how to draw any more.It's never been so fucking over for artists, bunch of elitist fucks.
>>750500910if its so good why are you trying to defend yourself to nobody
>>750487673wait this is really cool thanks for the shill anon
>>750500936Artists thought they were safe from automation, art being one of the first and easiest things AI could do just completely shattered their world view forever and I'm so fucking happy about it.Cope and eat shit, artfags.
>>750500880Well I have one more year than you and less skill. Not that I feel bad about it, I definitely could've worked harder than I did.So is that flat chested lolbit or twink lolbit?
>>750500910Yeah and cars made walking obsolete, and delivery made cooking obsolete, but I still do both of those things. I'm gonna keep drawing because I like to. You have fun with your AI though.
>>750487673Learning fucking sucks. I want to know shit not to learn shit. Come back when we have Matrix style direct knowledge upload.
>>750501027>>>750501060small-ish boobed lolbit, hard finding refs when im juggling the thread and csp on the same 11 inch screen
>>750499998maybe if try drawing something everyday dummy, that's the entire point you suck because you don't even try. Keep a notepad with you to scribble on each day and that's how you get better.Draw something you see and then look at it, why does that look shit, draw it again with references and study lighting and shading, compare it to the first piece of shit. That's was illustrating is, its repetition for hoursThe point when someone gets good is they can always visualize what they see in their head from seeing it countless times, you know the shape, the perspective, the lighting, the colours. People don't just get magically good at art, its because they no life it and that's all they know.
>>750501210There's a certain irony in taunting an AI art doomer with an image of an AI (musical) artist>LolbitWould it be too much to ask for you to make her boobs bigger. Years of "draw a girl, call it a boy" have made me a bit averse to chests that flat, especially with a character as ambiguously gendered as lolbit.
>>750501258I save grind for mmos. At least it ismarginally fun to do there.
>>750501428
>>750501649on this note going to sleep, had fun posting and doodling
>>750501649Thank you anon. Thank you very much. If this thread is still up tomorrow, maybe I'll pay you back with some art of my own.
>>750501786please do, drawing is based
>>750490659Fat tittied goblin girls and human knights fucking them.
>>750501649I like her face, particularly her cheek fluff, better in the other one, but I like her body more in this one. Both are good though.
>>750500050I got so used to it that I found Wacom tablets uncomfortable for a while. Even now I still cannot get the exact same feeling on a Wacom I had on the 3DS touchscreen.With a resistive touchscreen there's no pressure sensitivity, so every touch is the same and you rely on different brushes to do everything (lighter brushes for lighter syrokes, semi-transparent brushes, blend blushes, etc.)All of that (and much more) is available on Photoshop and Krita, but it's just not the same.
>>750487673>try the demo >its just a bunch of statues in a laggy environment you walk around>all you can do is change the lighting and make the bodyparts into geometric shapes>all the "gameplay" is just you drawing on paper irlwhats the point? it doesnt teach you anything, its essentially just a collection of 3D scanned statues (like 95% nude humans too) for you to use as reference.
>>750502263Probably for techlets who are too scared to download blender desu.
>>750490421Cute, don't let it devolve into Hazbin hotel shit
>>750502702I've never seen Hazbin Hotel or Helluva Boss. All I know is it has some fedora tipper lore and that the main characters put "fuck" before and after every word in a sentence.
>only barely 1k views for every drawingI'm not gonna make it bros...
>>750502959Per drawing or total?
>>750503009drawing. I only post complete stuff instead sketches btw.
You people posting drawings? Here some dragons dogma pawns i made.
>>750503028A thousand views per image consistently means you have a thousand people who like you and are actively sticking around to see everything you post. That's impressive. A thousand people is a lot of people. The town I live in doesn't even have that many people in it.
>>750503045I take it you're a fan of muscle girls.
>>750503134anon it's twitter I think view counts as people take a quick glance then scroll down.
>>750503289Yeah what really matters is the likes.
>>750503045Too afraid to post my art online and I don't see the point either...
>>750502959not even a humble brag, you are just bragging at this point.I mean, gratz, you captured an audience, now just throw in something new every so often to expand said audience.
>>750487673Unironically why there isnt some online multiplayer game that involves doodling
>>750490908You should just kill yourself
>>750503385>you are just bragging at this pointanon view doesn't matter, interactions like replies, likes and retweet do.
>>750503397probably since it’s hard to learn to draw and embarrassing for most people to draw poorly
>>750503397https://store.steampowered.com/app/3213850/gogh_Focus_with_Your_Avatar/Thoughts?
>>750488156>tfw only did 3 of my mandated pull ups this morning because I was lazy
>>750487673Unless it teaches fundamentals, it's not worth the money for learning
>>750503646Seems comfy desu but maybe too feminine. I guess a perfect version would just be VRChat but more focused for artists.
pretty dead for a /v/ drawthread.
What if I don't actually want to learn how to draw? What if I'm okay with just stick men, then what?
>>750503974Stick men are kino. Draw stick men.
>>750490659I want to make surrealist and impressionist painting also paintings of places and nature. Drawing characters seem to be the most popular drawing-related activity but doing some OC isn't appealing to me at all. If I ever have to draw characters they would either be grotesque figures or the cutest thing ever.
>>750490113>no nipplesLeave that child alone.
>>750500050Skill issue desu, remember Flipnote?
>>750500910Anime styles today suck ass.
>>750504302Anima is the new AI model. It can replicate any anime/western/3d art style as if the artist drew it themself.
>>750487673nah
>>750504421I wonder how much money you get paid to shill AI art on a videogame board, hmm.
>>750487673I'm content doodling in Selkie's Salvage & Co.
>>750487694Gonna have to give this guy a FPBP
>>750500497AutismYou can get the same kind of warm up and line control by actually sketching or doodling shit around you while also learning observation and getting a actual drawing instead of autism lines
>>750501027What caused this extreme level of insecurity? Were you so devoid of talent that even the mediocre artists made fun of you?
>>750503045damn that looks high effort anon, looks great. best i can do is noodle some figures then realize i don't have talent.
>>750503612MOAR!
Why are so many people on /v/ trying to froce themselves to become artists? Like, if you don't think it's fun, why do you do it? Isn't fun the whole point of this?
>>750487673Does this have anime and video game characters?
>>750487694fpjpYou should be having your cow shit supper right now, brapdeep.>>750487673I don't think I can ever learn to draw, because my hands have never been steady enough to draw a straight line.
>>750504943Talent doesnt mean you do it right on the first try, it means you can learn faster than the rest about whatever you are talented at.
>>750487673Just install Blender and draw with grease pencil or export renders into Krita for draw over?
>>750505084i'll finish it eventually <3only other vidya sort of thing i've got in the works is some yoshi stuff and it's not of the same vein ;3
>>750505434Cool! Do you have a blog?
>>750505385Just screenshot the viewport and use it as reference, no need to render.
>>750505520I like to export extra layers for composition
>>750505616Cool model
>>750504880this place is filled with miserable crab bucket losers that have never seriously committed to a single skill in their lives
>>750505641Thanks
>>750504880Drawfags stay seething about AI. I feel like a lot of people do it as a parlor trick or as some kind of way to get special attention. There's a lot of jealousy that goes around when it comes to art shit. at least in my experience. AI is taking something away from people who want to be special. Fuck 'em. Do it because you like it. You're probably not drawing anything new or groundbreaking anyway.
>>750506053why are you content with not being at all skillful in any meaningful light?
So 4chan is basically nothing but furries and faggots these days, huh?
>>750506454always has been newfriend
>>750487673Manga pack looks promising
Picked up the pen this summer for the cheeb game. Wish I'd done it much sooner. Still can't draw digitally worth shit though.
>>750495632Ten Indian Rupees per post.
>>750506085Because it takes effort and i rather would be entertained now instead of grinding skill that i might become good at in a decade.
>>750508194the grinding is the entertainment
>>750487673I don't have any talent. It's not possible to learn to draw from zero as an adult without talent.
>>750508589you don't know anything until you actually give it a serious effort and put time in. these things are massive time sinks. it's more about discipline than it is about raw talent
>>750508368It is not, pity you choose drawing instead of mining by the way, we really do need more people who are intrinsically entertained by grinding.
>>750487935The skills you build up learning to draw humans can help a lot with learning to draw other things, the only real exception being landscape drawing which is mostly a different skillset
>>750508790learning things is fun. generating things is not
>>750508686>it gets good 1000 hoursImagine giving that as a review to a game and reflect why it is not a good sell for a leisure activity.
>>750506609le creatura
>>750490902You need to draw bigger and use a pencil to sketch out your structure and save the pen for the actual final drawing
>>750508841you get good after 1000s of hours. that doesn't mean it isn't fun along the way
>>750508589If you have fun drawing, why care about talent? And if it's not fun, why even do it?
>>750508824Learning things is never fun. It is fun to be able to do something, it is not fun to spend years learning how to be able to do something.Result matters more than journey, pretending otherwise is pure cope born out of need to somehow rationalize decade(s) spent to achieve result.
was feeling hornydrew some HMOMA shitlol
>>750487673I'm genuinely mindbroken by AI. What's even the point anymore?
>>750508841>it gets good 1000 hourstry 3k+
>>750508841I'm happy when i make a decent mspaint doodle. Made this for instance
>>750509052ok, well enjoy never doing anything yourself I guess. what happens if they rugpull hardware decent enough to actually run open models and you can't afford a claude subscription anymore? you realize everything is heavily subsidized right now, right? how are you going to figure out how to wipe your own ass if that happens?
>>750509060do not give in to despair. skills are still worth having. even if normies don't give a shit, people who actually share your skills will always appreciate your work
>>750509060I'm starting to feel like art is gonna survive AI much better than most other disciplines
>>750509440>don't worry our echo chamber will always be here for youlol lmao even
>>750487673
>>750487673As long as it's promotes drawing trad rather than digital, then it's great already. Would be great if the UI is easy to navigate and allows you to import your own models.
>>750509520what's the alternative? stop drawing because a machine can do it faster? why?
>>750487673>Garbage AI game gets 0 downloadsdespite bumping the thread for hoursPftttttttttttttttttHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>750509059That looks very painful
>>750487694>>750490393>>750504779>uhhh i think ill just use AI lol
>>750487854>A man prompts.>A machine draws.>>750487797>*click click*>*generate*>no, die mad
>>750487673this seems interesting, are the poses unlimited? what's the point of using this over posemaniacs or another site.Does it have lolis, cause i pretty much only draw lolis
>>750488378>Just moved from SDXL models to Anima models. Learning to prompt better now and trying new comfyui plugins. What's your excuse?There is ZERO satisfaction and sense of achievement when you type in a prompt as opposed to putting your blood sweat and tears into learning how to draw from scratch. Chasing instant gratification is a sign of low IQ and proompters shitting up threads about art with AI shilling are proving my point daily.
>>750510356it's literal slop made with pictures from google.
>>750487673i'll buy this for my sister who enjoys drawing.
This is probably one of my best works yet. But crowshots are a nightmare.
>>750492063>>750492278>>750494023>>750493681>>750499908>>750499976>>750500910>>750501027
i need this game but with lolis, i struggle with loli feet and perspective
>>750510109nah man it feels good, busting your load into your lizard manservant
why the fuck is this game a maze? there's hardly any options, maybe some tutorials or aerial roam to take better angles would've been nice.
>>750509060The point is to satisfy your existential urge. Every person eventually discovers what they're meant to do with their lives, I've always liked drawing and that's what I'm going to do, because no other activity makes me feel whole as much as it. Other folk are born to be soccer players, others are born to be company CEOs, some were born to be plumbers, I was born to draw. If you have an artistic inclination, you will continue drawing regardless of AI's existence
>>750510394why wouldn't i want to plagiarize and hurt artists? they should get real jobs that actually contribute to society and leave them too drained for creative endeavours like the rest of us.
>>750511134>they should get real jobs that actually contribute to society you first, saar
>>750487673at first I thought it a a walking simulator disguised a a drawing reference, but it's not even that.You'd be better off just drawing models you can browse on sketchfab
>>750491159>never improve
>>750509869are you from the future?
>>750487673What drawing, video/image editing, 3D modeling software availbale on Steam would you recomend?
Unironically how do you even start? I've got an old huion tablet and have been playing with Krita and CSP (pirated of course hehehe) for a bit but everything feels so overwhelming that Idk where to start
>>750487673>YOU HAVE NO MORE EXCUSESWrong, I'm about to leave for work and won't be back for another 14 hours or so.
>>750513083unironically pencil and paperdraw what you want to drawit will look bad at first but nobody is a master to begin with
>>750487673>LEARN TO DRAWNo point now that AI is a thing.
>>750489948Sounds simple in concept, actually a nightmare to make it test drawing principles. Whenever someone tries to do this it becomes an immediate laughing stock in online art circles, like that daily game where you had to complete the cubes with "correct" perspective.
>>750513396why don't you kill yourself then? ai can probably do whatever you're doing better
>>750499023have you considered people just wanting to do stuff for the sake of it? you know, the true meaning of art?
yeah learn to draw during the rise of AI. Feed your master.
>>750487694>>750487797>>750487854you guys probably have no real interest in art, but i'll respond for anyone who is considering using AI instead of actually learning.AI is a crux, it's just a shortcut for opportunists. you have no merit to claim yourself an artist if you use AI, and anyone with any semblance of perception can see through your deception.if you rely on AI, you will never improve. art is a process of creation, whereas AI is a process of curation.if you seriously want to be an artist, using AI will do nothing but inhibit any potential for improvement.if you just want to use AI to make memes or slop for self-consumption, that's fine. but if you have any aspiration to be an artist, you won't get very far.
>>750500497art is divided between 3 core skill areas; practical aptitude, knowledge, and perception.those drills are meant to train your practical skill. it's your ability to control what your hand is doing on the canvas. someone with a lot of practice can confidently draw a very clean circle, whereas someone new to drawing will find it very challenging. it is actively trained, and improves with muscle memory, which is what makes these boring drills effective over time.knowledge is your understanding of everything that serves as the foundation of the subject you are drawing (anatomy, mannequinisation, perspective, etc.)perception is your ability to discern quality and understanding of style, it is passively trained by consumption of media and the work of others, which then influences your own style.
>>750513385Guess make it exist first then make it better it seems...
>>750515173perception is funny, your eyes see everything but somehow your brain refuse to let you see it unless you actively train it
>>750513396>WHY BOTHER BREATHING WHEN AI CAN DO IT>WHY BOTHER EATING WHEN AI CAN DO IT>WHYYYYY WHYYYYYY WHYYYYYY
>>750514429I look at AI porn and it's not as good/soulful as drawn porn usually, although it fills a niche of being mass producible. I still don't see any evidence AI will replace drawing, aside as rote labor.
>>750490659gundams and armored cores
>>750503045i didnt know you can lv past 100>>750504943keep using that for making action sketches
>>750516423>not as good/soulful as drawn porn usuallynigger, it's fucking PORN. It's there to get you off and be forgotten. Nothing more, nothing less
>>750518067Porn is there to get me off and be remembered. Besides, it was just an example where I can compare a large volume of similar images, from the same source (4chan nsfw sloppa generation generals & 4chan hentai repost generals), and finding that one does not replace the other
>>750487673cool idea but studying from 3d models with jaggies and fake game engine lighting is retarded
>>750516139Because eating food feels good and breathing is effortless. The fuck kind of stupid analogies is that?
>>750516879All mechas are literally just perspective with human anatomy mechanized
>>750518681YOUR MOM IS AN ANALOGY, FAGGOT
Im reding the famous artist course lessons book. It going, huh...prety slow.
i will post my drawing.frisk from undertale.
Last real thing I drew, and it was just a study. Keep drawing anons, its fun to see your own progress.
>>750518681>feels goodno no anon feelings are abstract concepts and not important sorry you're not efficient at living, you eat and breath too much, ai does not need food to surviveI think it's time to kick the bucket anon... but don't worry ai will take care of everything :)
Latest csp torrent?
Can I learn drawing exclusively drawing digital? Or it is better to draw in paper?
>>750521217better to learn on paper. comparatively, paper gives immediate, raw visual feedback that's useful for developing motor skill. actually seeing how your strokes come into being with no software-guided strings attached is excellent for refining your markmaking ability. its one of the most, if not THE most, fundamental to learn imo.>>750520903this is stellar. what's your process when you do studies? do you sketch out lines first, then paint over them? every time i try painting i feel like i'm doing something in the wrong order.
>>750521217>Can I learn drawing exclusively drawing digitalsure>Or it is better to draw in paper?both paper and digital have their own pros and cons, I would say the best way to approach this is to be flexible and practice both. drawing on paper will help build your line confidence since there's no ctrl+z on paper
>>750521217digital is cheating
>>750521217Both are fine. Why not draw both on paper and digitally
>>750504120Where is Asriel?
>>750521730stop crabing.
>>750494036oh, nevermind, I had something in my chamber this whole time
>>750490421Nicei really enjoy drawing and painting landscapes but coomer drawings pay the bill sadly
>>750494036>You can't share one of yours?I could, but then I'd have to kill you. they're AWFUL.
>>750521217Keep it simple start on paper
>>750508841If you don't enjoy the early game, then you probably won't enjoy the late game either. The whole game is you going through the loop and steadily improving. Being that good at 1000 hours is basically just post game content. Shittily drawing your characters because you like to is the game.
>>750521217Start on paper. It's cheaper than shelling out for a $300+ tablet, and, like other anons have said, gives you more tactile feedback on your motions.
i hate the shit that i draw and i hate myself for being too fucking lazy to commit to actually learning how to improve
>>750509052Nta, but learning things can be fun if its something you like learning about. I like learning about naval history because I think ships are cool, there's really no end result to that at all, just the process of learning some new thing I didn't know before.
I'm actually getting more interested in art after several years of prompting, if only because i would love to use a combo of sketches and bboxes to enhance my workflows. Maybe i should play it.
>>750509265Based political cartoon boomer
>>750487673Does it teach you nude drawings as well? Like, are there actual nude models? That's pretty important if you're learning anatomy.
>>750509052>Learning things is never fun.I REALLY hope you're trolling.
>>750487694I'm going to learn to draw AND use AI.
>>750515585That's basically how all creative works are.
>>750500050Well imagine it buddy thousands of us did it for Flipnote Hatena. In fact to this day I see nips making high quality flipnotes for MVs
>>750522646Busy being the Knight
>>750515726You see things, but you don't really know what any of it is. I'm sure there's a lot of things in life that you've looked at and been like "what the fuck is this thing?". Now just think about how many times you looked at something and didn't even realize there was parts of it you just didn't recognize. There was a point in your life where you couldn't even perceive your own existence. Every aspect of perception has to be learned.
>>750520876When a monster says something so dustpilled that you have to hit him with the determination stare.
>>750514481Not that you care, but I think it's interesting how the exact same things were said about digital art (digital painting, drawing pads, photoshop filters), similar to what was said about photography when it first came out.Basically, in a decades time using AI will be the equivalent of choosing to take a photograph. That doesn't mean photography makes traditional painting obsolete, but it is still a valid form of expression whether you like it or not
>>750521217You should learn both, at least the basics. Then you can decide for yourself which you prefer.
>>750522839What's the context on these two?
I genuinely have no idea what goes through the minds of AIjeets. They genuinely have no interests, no hobbies, no determination to improve and seek long-term goals, instead they're extremely lazy, entitled and addicted to sucking each other off.I kind of automatically assume that they either had no good family relationships or got completely failed by their parents who spoiled them while teaching them nothing.
>>750523167Just draw for fun. Stop treating it like srsbsns.
>>750524000checkedbut i don't have fun drawing garbage that doesn't look like what i want it to look like
>>750523835Nta, but it definitely needs its own term. Right now people are treating it like regular drawn art, which it has almost no merit as when judged by that medium's standards. Photography started out being a quick and dirty replacement for painting, but it quickly became its own thing because it really wasn't suited to being pressed into that field.
>>750524106Imagine a world where everyone instantly starts giving up and fuming with rage because they're not amazing prodigies from the start
>>750524106Just fuck around then. Draw goofy stuff that gets a laugh out of you. Or try to work on out some method of stylization that looks good when drawn poorly.
>>750522839Are you that anon from yesterday who drew the Lolbit and Roxy?
>>750521064Nobody?
>>750490902Based, don't let tards demoralize you. Keep enjoying yourself king
>>750487673>>750487694It uses AI to collect data about how people draws
>>750524157You are onto something there. Before photography, the only way to capture someone's likeness was to get a portrait painted. Obviously with photography that directly replaces that use case, as you have something able to capture and reflect reality much better, easier, and cheaper.But that just freed painting up to explore. You don't have to paint realistically because you could take a photo if you wanted realism. I do think AI art will replace some use cases of hand-made art, but I also don't believe human made art will be totally displaced or disappear.
tabletfags: how do you get used to it? my brain can't comprehend the lines i draw appearing not where my "pencil" meets the "page" but on a separate screen in front of me.
>>750523943Being the world's legal slave labor camp (this side of china) imprinted on them the absolute necessity to finish the goal as fast as possible, and must be efficent because they have to do it a lot of times and if they fail they die.
>>750524795I have a screen tablet.
>>750500270Dude I wish just that was enough.But you also need 10,000 pages of life figure drawings.
just look up atrium dot earth if you want a free statue viewer, you dont need this
>>750524546>Obviously with photography that directly replaces that use case, as you have something able to capture and reflect reality much better, easier, and cheaper.It didn't really replace the use case. Pictures taken in the style of portraits were often unnatural and off putting because the people in them were posed and displayed like they were being put in a portrait. It illustrated the difference between just preserving someone's likeness and specifically getting a portrait painted. Portraits are much more artistic and interpretive than pictures, and end up being different artistically because of it.
>AI jeets samefaggingpathetic state of affairs
>>750498710
I want to draw but I want to write more so any time I could be drawing I'm writing instead god speed to art anons though.
>>750487694you can do both nigga
>>750524795Just use it a lot, eventually you'll get over the feeling. Tho if you ever use a different tablet, you'll have to fight against muscle memory once again.
>>750487673I don't really want toI'll wait until I have my own apartment
>>750514481I don't want to be an artist; I want to get nice drawings of my niche porn fetishes.
>>750487673Is this any good? Been thinking about buying a tablet and (re)learn to draw.
>>750527803Oh nvm, it's just for references for your sketchbook.
>>750526901What do you write?
>>750528551mostly shitty found family fanfiction (that I love and live for) and some hmofa smut/romance
>>750527714I've seen the "nice images" your kind gets up to. You made it very clear in the 2 straight years of sanctioned ai general threads you were allowed. 1 billion images of isabelle at slightly different angles, all with that strange sheen to them.
>>7504883938 HOUR ARM DAY LETS GO
>>750487673ive been trying to learn but its annoying as hell
>>750529268Uh? Actually, I mainly mean amputee, doll joins, loli, stomach deformation, size difference, and cum overflow.
>>750529567I'm talking about the "quality" that the ai shits out. You aren't making "nice" images, you're making nonsense. I'm well aware of the quality standards the ai crowd aspires to.
>>750529768AI is in constant improvement, and if there are any mistakes, I can fix them myself because it is not like I lack artistic skills myself.
>>750529910yes yes ai has been in constant improvement this whole time, but the images still fundamentally lack that erotic power that separates the wheat from the chaff.you can correct inconsistencies, but you can not give the ai it's own bonar with which to detect true ero power. Your taste is weak if it can be appealed to by the machine.
>>750510184>>750510262>>750510656Why are you posting pictures of yourself?
>>750530090Yeah, my AI images had made me cum enough semen to fill an ocean, can't find that much of my specific tastes out there, but with AI, with AI, the porn is endless, just like my cum.I can just take any waifu, no matter how obscure, dollyfy her, lolify her, amputee her, and then fill her with cum, is glorious.
>>750530301We already established your weak tastes anon. I need no further evidence. There is a reason it is called slop, though the term gets overused. >I can just take any waifua phrase more telling than you can possibly understand.I hope one day when actual ai is invented, it can look back, see your post, and experience shame that people like you delayed it's creation, the creation of a machine that can experience true boner power.
I did these for /ctt/ a while back. In hindisght I should've used some kind of reference, AI or otherwise.
>>750530090Definitely. AI doesn't get stuff right. The angles, the poses, the expressions, etc.You also can't get deranged, contorted, exaggerated expressions and heavily stylized images.You won't get elaborate interactions like King Kong snapping a T-rex's jaw like in the movies or dynamic scenes like someone falling as the drapes they were holding onto tear from the weight (speedlines, smears, etc.)>inb4 you just want free artYou don't have to gen anything. It's just how it is
>>750530478I pity you, luddite, for you cannot enjoy such lavish AI pleasures.
>>750490421>>750490902>>750491259I'm sorry anon for butchering your lad, just wanted to try my hand at him, dont think I've fumbled something this badly in a long time.
>>750530641>Ludditethere it is.Your ai lacks gnosis, it is not designed with it in mind because it is not actually ai. Your inability to understand how this makes it inadequate makes you the true luddite. You approach this as though it were worship. Your ai takes the sum total, the average, weighted by what you describe, but it is still a chinese room that does not comprehend the eroticism of fingers sinking desperately into a womans thighs, or how the view of her neck as she gasps in pleasure at my grand work makes the view all the more erotic. You can adjust and shift but you are forever working off a base that was incapable of seeing these things, because it doesn't see at all.It is slop because it lacks fundamental pieces, and you are swine because you do not desire those pieces. I fully support the advancement of technology, but you are a fool who has misunderstood what the technology is. Your desires are weak. You will never match my Ero Power.>>750530906unfathomably based anon.
>>750523835criticism against digital art was during the 60's, during its infancy, largely due to ignorance influenced by a misunderstanding of the methods involved in creating it.criticism against AI is not out of ignorance, people know that AI uses data trained from artists work without consent. and people understand the methods involved, which requires zero artistic skill, and results in zero improvment of that skill.you're comparing a medium for creation with a tool for curation. your argument is flawed, and you're a fuckwit for even trying to make an attempt at it when you clearly have zero understanding of the matter.
>>750528975Did you draw this?
>>750531216nah, I wish I could draw that well. Artist name is Signirsol be aware, he has a wide range of things he draws
>>750530906Its fine anon. I'm sure Red appreciates the attention after being trapped in the forgotten OC pile for so long. Plus I've drawn worse images of him myself plenty of times.
>>750531272I know who he is. The question is, do I know you? Because I'm beginning to suspect I do.
>>750531403if you love the bird and the fox even a quarter as much as me, then yeah there's a good chance of it.
>>750531335Unfortunately, my consistency with art varies incredibly wildly, sometimes I can make stuff I can be proud of, but most often it comes out like this, I'm sorry about that.
Nah thanks, I'll use AI. Skimming the thread, I can see AI already does a better job that every single drawing posted here.>NOOO BUT AI DOESN'T IMPROVE THE MEDIUM OR WHATEVERNeither do you lolDo you think your doodles matter? AI already trained on artists better than you. Better than you with a lifetime of practice, even.The lie that everyone can draw and willful ignoring of the existence of talent has done irreparable damage to arts
>>750531591sorry, still not using your shitty predictive generator.
>>750487673But it's not even out yet
>>750531590>>750530906don't be harsh on yourself about this anon. it's a solid sketch and the mouth gives a sense of depth rather than feeling flat.
>>750531212As it currently works you're supposed to prompt and then iron out the kinks. Eventually it'll stop needing edits and fixesInstead you bitch about it replacing you because you're going the way of the dinosaurs and refuse to adapt
>>750531590Its fine, with time and practice you'll be able to draw decent stuff more consistently.
>>750487694
>>750531572I prefer the brown fox and the snake, personally.
>>750527714and yet beaners and jeets flood every booru with endless streams of the most samey looking ai dogshit because they want everyone to see ""their"" """""work"""""
>>750522939The brush you're using there reminds me a lot of Dan Kim's artwork.
>>750531858my brother I respect you.
>>750487673I don't need to learn because I have a friend who loves drawing and is always asking me for ideas.Free infinite artwork.
>>750524329The one I found on nyaa had some weird password protection enforced by the Chink uploader. I'm just sticking to Sai2 for now
>>750531919Boorus don't even accept AI, tranny
>>750531702Appreciate it anon but it's hard not to. >>750531752I'm trying to draw more but I never really sit down to study, always just drawing pics for friend and others, sometimes self indulgent things even. Maybe I should try and do some study sessions too.
Use case for making this a game when you can literally open any game in the known universe, turn to look at something, and then draw it?
>>750532150Oh so you're just retarded and lying to him now. Cool!
>>750532268Fucking grim.
Any cute characters I can try drawing?
>>750532221could be interesting if it lets you control the light setup and camerathen again, I can do that already in blender
>>750532221Because the point of figure drawing is the nude form in interesting poses.The real question is why you would do this when your local town almost certainly has a $5 weekly figure drawing session with real nude (tattooed artho) women
>>750531160>does not comprehend the eroticism of fingers sinking desperately into a womans thighsThat's the skindentation tag, dumbass. Arguing with clueless retards is so tiring. There are some things AI is bad at but you don't even know what they are because you have no experience with itt. nta
>>750532434Depends on what you are looking for anon. Vidya, anime or oc?
>>750532580I'm up for anything really, it's just practice.
>>750532571you've revealed your idiocy on an unprecedented level.I have plenty of experience with ai. A tag is not the qualia that tag brings forth. You are too unfathomably stupid to understand what I'm saying.I repeat, a machine can not yet boner, and it shall not boner any time soon, for the machines boner brings the creators no profit.
>>750531212>AI uses data trained from artists work without consentYeah, compared to all the artists that have definitely consented when you decide to do a study of their art pieces in order to literally copy their style
>>750532268Do people consider rule34 sites to be boorus?
>>750532623I could be selfish and suggest one of my own furry oc's but I don't know if that would be up your alley, so maybe just a slugcat for some cute stuff? From Rainworld.
>>750532268That's not a booru you dumb nigger
>>750487694simple as
>>750531160>>750532674You are pointing at AI saying "look it's not real intelligence! When you dig deeper, it's all just electrical signals, it's just bits flipping!"Perhaps you are unaware that when you dig deeper, your brain is nothing more than cells firing electrical impulses as well, that there is no proof that you or any other human being is more conscious than any AI that exists today.Perhaps you are aware of this. And it makes you deeply uncomfortable, which is the root of the anger you feel.
>>750533015yes, those sites are boorus. >>750533045you dumb fuck.
>>750533116>poopoopeepeeNobody gives a flying fuck, marketer. Go fleece some VCs. Nobody on 4chan is going to fund your startup no matter how much you pay rapeape to let your ilk spam the site to death.
>>750533182I'll give you another chance for a more coherent response, if you can manage one
>>750533142I always figured r34sites were bargain basement dumping grounds and booru was a term used for sites with some kind of curation.
>>750533116you continue to make a fool of yourself. I'm aware of the nature of these impulses and signals. this isn't new information. It can even be argued that our emotions are secondary processes that our brain only convinces the illusory "self" of after it happened. it's why qualia is subjective. the problem is that ai is not designed to reach these goals, and lacks the vast majority of the mechanisms that make our conscious processes loop back into each other.You may have believed this to be deep, but the problem is you are speaking with a lack of understanding, taking the bits and pieces of these ideas that seem to support you on the surface, while discarding the parts that are in turn uncomfortable to you.My anger is not at ai, my anger is at you for thinking the technology is something that it is not, and is not being designed to be. It is certainly MARKETED as what you think, but that thing is not profitable, and thus not being worked towards.You fundamentally misunderstand the things you talk about because you stop digging once you get something that seems like it supports your view, making you look foolish in the long term.AI is a marketing term for something that is decisively not.
Here's my attempt at drawing him in pencil firce, then using a pen to ink the lines.
>>750533369Booru just comes from the original "Danbooru" which released its source code way back allowing others to copy its design. Boorus are just what the things that came after are called by. The actual quality of how each booru is run doesn't really play into the naming convention (though yes most boorus are pretty trash).in short, rule34 sites(each of the various splinters of it) are boorus.
I wonder if this shit was vibecoded in a dayI gave the demo a try and the performance is really bad, for something than only displays a few models in a 3d scene
>>750533536(potentially)expressive little feller.
>>750487673do you even
>>750533536Looks nice anon, I like the long nose and muzzle you give your characters.
>>750503045damn that's pretty ni->that bulge..ce, i guess...
I started drawing by looking at statues, and it really works if you realize that you can practice the angles of the lines, proportions, etc., and gradually begin to reproduce things quite accurately.But then what I learned was just how to imitate statues. If I try to draw a person from my imagination, it turns out to be complete garbage.
>>750503372afraid of what
draw bigthat is all
>>750534183there's just a lot of information to memorize if you want to draw humansmost artists use refs to complement their knowledge, it's simply more effective than making everything from scratchthat said, having a few standard angles and proportions memorized is quite convenient (front, profile, 3/4ths, low angle, high angle)
>ai scum ultimately bowed to drawCHADs in the end
>>750533029Any mire?
>>750535465*more requests
>>750535461IA GODS don't think about drawfaggots at all.
>>750535465Oh shit, that's a cute scug anon, thanks!
>>750535465nice and based.How about a human and a mantis from FTL on a date talking about their battles or something.
>>750509059very hot
>figure drawing>from a 2d displayI'd rather just go outside and draw whatever piques my interest.
>>750531745that literally reinforces their point u retard...do u not know the difference between creation and curation?have you ever done either?
>>750535557>minor spelling mistakeWell, by default you have now lost.
>>750532029It must be great to be an ideas guy with a friend who has no ideas of his own.
>>750532434Draw Ryo from Crowscare. He's the one on the right.
>>750532208Could try working study into drawing for friends. I've been trying to copy poses from reference pictures whenever I take reqs on my favored threads.
>>750535765
>>750526901>can't write because of shit sleep scattering my thoughts and brainrot from constant AI chatbot ERP degrading my writing skills>can't draw because it's not fun and I'm so far back at the very beginning that there's no reward to keep me going>brain nonetheless swims with so many ideas that I end up staying awake for hours some nights>not going to be able to do either of these if I ever get a job because writing and drawing are things I literally can't unwind to I don't know how creativefags manage to do this shit while at college or wageslaving
>>750533756Yeah, I like to give my characters long snoots. My thought is that, if you're drawing anthros, but aren't giving them a snoot, then what's the point?
>>750537936>the little dressheh, even a space killing machine knows how to be cute sometimes.thanks anon.
>>750537950>can't write because of shit sleep scattering my thoughts and brainrot from constant AI chatbot ERP degrading my writing skillsI can relate to the lack of sleep, but the ai chatbot is doing you no favors. >I don't know how creativefags manage to do this shit while at college or wageslavingI write the worlds I wish were real when I finish my obligations in the real world.
>>750535465this is my req >>750537738
>>750537950Just quite doing chatbots. If you want to get off, make writing smut your only option. That won't make you good, but it will at least get you in the habit of writing more.
>>750537950>write your own smut>form a deeper connection with the writing thus being able to return to your own story time and again when you're in the mood for something that implicitly follows your exact tastesit was a revelation, coming to understand what artists who draw their own porn must feel like.
>>750537950Man, if only there were a very obvious cause that could be discerned and treated.
>>750537804Maybe, I should try and deconstruct bodies of other artists, maybe it could help with my own.>>750537952My own characters have them as well but they are shorter.
>>750539218>My own characters have them as well but they are shorter.I have characters with shorter snoots, Red just happens to have a particularly long one.
>>750539315The pointy snoot. Hope to see more of him, maybe in another thread if this ever happens but I have to pass out now.
>>750537950This faggot’s post was so pathstic that inspired me to stop being a nigger and start writing my own porn.
>>750539828Based, I kneel anon. May heaven grant you virtue.
>>750539828What tags will it have?
I'll take this as an opportunity to post this wip before the drawthread starts later this week. Idk if I did the pose right at all.
>>750508589Yes, I am a talentless fuck and I still learned how to draw
>>750541189post drawings
>>750541220I just love fatties
>>750520903nigga why did you do a study of aislop??
>>750541297Good work, it is disgusting, but not because it is badly drawn.
>>750520903soulless/soul
>>750487694very in character for an AI-lmao to /fpbp himself
>>750541189>>750541297Post your work from when you started.
>>750541907Something something 2022
>>750537738
>>750541297Based concept, cringe species.
>>750542205I just like shortstacks and fattiesIn fact fatties were the reason why I picked up the pencil
>my main issue is my shyness>I only want to draw lewdness and futuristic things>it requires a wacom driver because they paid the illuminati for good driver support>statues look too disgusting human for my tasteNo U
i redrew my aeromorph(kinda) fursona digitallyi need to start learning poses etc
>>750487694You don't get to fpbp yourself, retard. That's not how it works.
>>750542429Goburins are ugly and gay. Plus that one looks like a granny.
>>750487673uhhh i think ill just give up lol
I can't get good. Everything comes out wonky and AI demoralized me
>>750542625holy mirror and line tool usage batman
>>750487694fpbp, ludds are seething, kek
>>750489820PLAP PLAP PLAPSEXOOOOOOOOOOOI look forward to subscribing to your patreon
>>750521638Oh crap, late reply sorry anon. What I usually do is have a game plan on what im trying to study. With the pieces im showing the goal is to copy without having to pick the color from the color wheel and just to place the subject as close as possible to the original by eyesight without any real measurement but your own judgement. If you have to do an underdrawing just make it a quick gesture that you have a frame to lay color down on, like large brush scribbles.
>>750487694You don't understand anything about art so your AI creations will never be as good as someone's who has studied art, understands art AND uses AIyou'll forever be a second-class citizen
>>750542724:(
>>750541995Heck yeah, that's cute! Good draw.
>>750504721>Selkie's Salvage & Co.I played this game for 4 hours straight, when she kissed me for doing a good job I had the biggest boner ever, must draw porn of the rata sexo
>>750543161>You don't understand anything about art so your AI creations will never be as good as someone's who has studied artCope. A good prompter has knowledge of art lingo and technical vocabulary.
>>750543161>art>rat>the cults use it to steal souls and send messagesWow so much cult ured
>>750542625i'd clang him
>>750541985thought so
>>750544245have some more
>>750487694Ai cannot replicate the absolute degenerate hentai I need I want the creature that fucks the hot girl to be absolutely nasty, eldritch like and extremely disgusting yet ai isn't capable of doing it Extremely disappointing Also I want to draw scenes of my fantasy book I write for myself, AI cannot do that as well
>>750544296sovl
>>750541297>>750541985>>750544296What/how did you study to get here?
>>750544296Are we sharing OC now? This is from 8 months ago.
>>750543402And zero artistic eye to discern whether their results are actually any good.Forever.A second-class.Citizen.
>>750514481Yeah but consider this: I can learn art for 30 years and get nowhere because I'm not a nepo baby, or I can just shit out AI "paintings" and 3D print them and get a real art career because I am a nepo baby.Unfortunately there is no correlation between your skill and your position in the art world, wish there was but it's all just completely pointless unless you've been born into the right family.
>>750530249saar i am not from bharat like you saar
>>750542625What plane is he supposed to be?
>>750523835I really don't understand how this is in any way helpful to someone who now has to die in a ditch because he "only" knows how to draw, use Photoshop, has a knowledge of art history and theory, and graphic design.
>>750490421>>750490902>>750491259>>750492874>>750494036>>750495331>fnaf shitfuck off already, you niggers need to grow out of this dumbass franchise
>>750544927That’s just going to be everyone in a decade unless you were already wealthy beforehand.
>>750544941>stop liking what I don't likeis this guys oc even FNAF related?
>>750541995Ryo is a boy, you know.
>>750544973its LITERALLY an animatronic, 1:1 with one of the games, I say what I say because people of this fandom are incredibly obnoxious and have fetishes that go beyond what is acceptable even on 4chan, so much so that they got banished to /trash/
>>750541995>>750544983Not to say that its bad though. Its good, just a lot more effeminate than he is in the game. Its probably my fault for not specifying the details on my favorite literally who RPG maker horror character.
>>750545032>and have fetishes that go beyond what is acceptable even on 4chanI post this as someone who is personally into vanilla lovey dovey handholding sex butISHYGDDT
>>750542496>lewdnessWhat kind, of who?>futuristic thingsWhat style?
>>750544503Perspective>Hampton>Vilppu>HustonAlso the most important part is consistency. You HAVE to draw every single day, even if it's just a bit. A shitty cube a day is better than nothing.
>>750545075nah that's totally my bad for not paying attention to the character design (or your post).It was a quick sketch so I just went auto pilot and drew a girlish figure.
>>750544926oof. not a good sign if you cant tell, i guessSu-37
>>750545152Oh and yea studying artists you like also helps a lot. I would recommend finding an artist you REALLY like and try to study all their works.
>>750544941Anon, I this is the first time I've touched this character in years. I said so in those posts. I don't think I've played a FNAF game since UCN came out.
>>750487694based af
>>750545206I couldn't point out an Su-37 in a line up. I know very little about Russian jets. Most of my plane knowledge is WW1 fighters and 1st gen jets, and most of my militaria knowledge is ships. This is more of a failure on my end.If you anthro'd a WW1 fighter, I might be able to pick out what model he is.
>>750544973He's FNAF inspired, but also just inspired by the FNAF clone genre in general. I took a lot of influence from the Walten Files when coming up with him.>>750545032>I say what I say because people of this fandom are incredibly obnoxious and have fetishes that go beyond what is acceptable even on 4chanCome on, anon. We both know there's no such thing as "too far" on 4chan, merely too obscure.Anyways, Red isn't a porn character. I think he's a bit too cute and innocent to do that sort of thing to.
>>750546171>He's FNAF inspired, but also just inspired by the FNAF clone genre in general. I took a lot of influence from the Walten Files when coming up with him.neat. I never really cared much about OCs myself before, but I guess I see the virtue in fucking around with your own ideas and characters now.as for the walten files, I've got such mixed feelings on it with how it's really interesting on one hand, and on the other hand the voice acting is like people that don't know English are reading off the script.More power to you though.
>>750546284> I never really cared much about OCs myself before,Every character is an OC. I don't think its really possible to be creative without making some amount of OCs. But maybe that's just my own creative habits coloring things. I'm super OC focused. Half of what I make is original stories and the other half is fanfics starring OCs, and they're all character focused. You never created any characters? Like for a story or a comic?>as for the walten files, I've got such mixed feelings on it with how it's really interesting on one hand, and on the other hand the voice acting is like people that don't know English are reading off the script.i dropped it after the post episode 3 hiatus. I heard it got worse after it came back.I actually thought the voice acting worked to its favor in the early episodes. The serial killer in the halloween special sounding like an ESL just made him seem more creepy. As did the TTS voices.
>>750546678>Every character is an OC. I don't think its really possible to be creative without making some amount of OCs. But maybe that's just my own creative habits coloring things. I'm super OC focused. Half of what I make is original stories and the other half is fanfics starring OCs, and they're all character focused.and looking back on it yeah that makes sense, but my brain always put original characters from their own original series in a separate category. I've only recently come to realize that there's no real need to draw the line here or there.>You never created any characters? Like for a story or a comic?only in the last year. I can see the virtue in it now and the enjoyability of it, but it just didn't make sense to me before.>I actually thought the voice acting worked to its favor in the early episodes. The serial killer in the halloween special sounding like an ESL just made him seem more creepy. As did the TTS voices.I just think back to the episode where they are playing the game, and their talking just feels so awkward. For me the esl talking didn't add to that scene at all because it felt like the actors didn't even understand WHY they were saying whatever they were saying.
>>750495796very cute!
>>750546834>, but my brain always put original characters from their own original series in a separate category.Red isn't a FNAF OC, he's just FNAF inspired. I made him as part of a cast of an original game that I never got around to making.> I've only recently come to realize that there's no real need to draw the line here or there.What swayed you?>only in the last yearMay I see?>I just think back to the episode where they are playing the game, That was about where I dropped the series. Most of what I remember of it is from before that.
>>750546976>What swayed you?the 4chan undertale fangame community seeing them create stuff and just have fun with it made me also look back with a new perspective on all the other creative stuff I'd seen over the years>Red isn't a FNAF OC, he's just FNAF inspired. I made him as part of a cast of an original game that I never got around to making.ahh ok that makes sense>May I see?I don't draw, I only write, and it's undertale related >That was about where I dropped the series. Most of what I remember of it is from before that.ahh fair, that's about the most recent thing I remember as well so I guess we're in a similar place there.
>>750547074>undertale relatedPartners?>that's about the most recent thing I remember as well so I guess we're in a similar place there.I didn't drop it because of the voices, I dropped it because of the 2 year hiatus. Killed any investment I had.
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