who cares if you get lynched online
anti-ai people aren't human beings
they're slugs with internet connections

>>751583819
Lie through your teeth and don't put in anything forward-facing like character portraits that'll have an obvious look to them.

>>751583819
you dont, learn to do without features you can't implement

>>751583868
very transphobic of you

>>751583969
i'm actually a misanthrope

>>751583819
I make games for myself and only myself.

>>751583948
This. Just make an alt account on steam and lie that you coded it yourself and hope valve doesn't find out

Developers will just lie about not using it and only ever admit to as much as they were caught using, which is what's already happening.

Stick to India and stop trying to peddle your slop to westerners

>>751583819
just don't open source it? And don't say you used it?
Literally nobody suspected big walk had AI for months until they pussied out and self reported

>>751583819
Isn't that just a fault of Big Walk devs being performative faggots, and "being transparent" about a nothingburger process of troubleshooting few lines of code using AI, completely being naive about people being a retarded social media ape.
They could've gotten away with it if they didn't go out of their way to get themselves involved in the debacle.

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>>751583819
There are developers who don't use AI?

>>751583948
>download a game
>clod pls decompile the game and check if the code was AI-written

>>751583819
>"Why yes I coded it all myself. I also drew the art. I'm just extremely multi-talented I guess haha!"
>>751583967
Yeah but here's another option: call you a gay fag and tell you to get fucked.

>>751583819
If you think about it, this is good news. Anyone selling those lame games is a tranny so that means trannies are lynching themselves.

>>751583819
I have an artist persona on instagram/twitter with a super unique style that has become my primary source of income.

It is 90% AI, 10% me editing AI errors out.

The secret ingredient is to just... not disclose it. Simple as that. If no one knows, there is no drama and I make a small fortune on horny bronies and furries via patreon and subscribe star.

Big walk were just retarded. Everyone knows Anti-ai people are the same unhinged lefty idiots that will dogpile you for playing Harry Potter or not accepting that the fat balding guy with a neckbeard in a dress is a woman when he whips his dick out in the girls locker room at Planet Fitness.

Just like with quite literally anything, it doesn't matter what the process is. If the end product is shit, it was always going to be shit regardless of what was used to make it. At the end of the day, it's not the AI that's the problem, it's the people making the product that are the problem if they don't know how to wrangle AI to not make it shit or they can't effectively work with AI to make something not shit. However, your average faggot can't understand this concept

>>751583819
You don't. Grow a thicker skin if you wanna force your way into spaces where you're being told you're not accepted.

>>751583819
Embrace it and outright antagonise the anti croud
Simple culture war shit, people will support you simply for that, don't toe the line, attack

>>751583819
>how does one use AI without getting lynched online?
you don't

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>game fanbase are the biggest anti-AI circlejerk performative bluesky faggots imaginable
>CEO literally said multiple times they're going all in on AI
>upcoming product has obviously slopped music
>they still pretend like it isn't slopped
None of these people have any actual convictions and just want to consoom at the end of the day. They want you to lie to their faces and they want to pay 70 USD for the privilege of it.

>>751583819
Use it for code and don't tell anyone about it. If you need to use it for art your game is shit and doesn't deserve to exist anyway.

Ever noticed how a lot of the AI crowd just straight up acts evil?
>I'll lie if I have to, as long as you get replaced, bwahaha!
It's like they're manbabies living in a cartoon.

>>751583819
It will be adopted by everyone the same way don't ask don't tell was for gays in the US military

If you aren't honest about your video game you didn't cared about it as a dev, you just did it for some quick buck.

Just say you use AI if you really love your game and didn't lie, any liars are caught, even after their "cash grab scheme" of lying

>>751584820
Damn, I need to get on this grift. Though I don't know how you fool people consistently with the currently-available models. Animaslop is immediately obvious as is whatever that newer model is
>>751585218
Sire this website is for fucking scum & low-lives, resetera is thatta way
But if you want a more ingenuous argument, it sounds a lot to me that the problem you have is more with the economic system under which AI puts people out of a job, and I'm sorry to say this, but I have no power over that and probably the gayest thing you could do would be to police the common man's use of the technology because it's the only shred of power you have. If the corpos are going to use it i will too. Get fucked.

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>>751585374
>100% of all lies are found out

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>>751584820
Any artist that has years behind them can tell your shits AI jeetoid. Lmao

>>751583819
>lynched online
I only saw posts of people defending them, I've yet to see a single comment from someone mad at them and yet everybody talks like there's trillions of haters attacking them.
Is this just an advanced shill campaign?

>>751584820
what's your name?

>>751585762
No way..

>>751585762
you're delusional or part of the shill campaign yourself if you're going to claim that a big indie game isn't getting hate for ai

People self corrected real quick on the Big Walk thing. They didn't get lynched. The only thing that happened was they got kicked out of some stupid award thingy.

>>751583819
To the people who hate a.i who are more vocal and will make a billion post a day on any social media platforms about how much they hate a.i there is no proper way to use it without these people going mad. The proper way to go about it is to rage bait them into a red anger letting them know they have no power because when they feel powerless there true colors start to show.

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>>751583819
luddites are a dying breed.
always remember that they are worthless scumbags and their seething is performative.

>>751585218
>straight up acts evil?
nosering dogwhistle

>>751585218
>evil is when trannies have to get a real job
kys yourself, faggot

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Don’t even bother you can do the bare minimum using AI, and Luddite trannies will still seethe and boycott your work

>>751583819
Simple, use it as a learning tool and don't pass anything it writes as your own work.

I don't give two shits about their AI thing, but that big gay post they put out about not releasing their shitty friendslop game on Xbox because some political faggotry is more of a reason to ignore them. Blows my mind that people still can't keep their business and politics separate, there was literally no reason to say any of this besides internet ass pats for caring about brown people or something.

>>751583819
Use it and say it loud, clearly and proudly so I can more easily not play it.

>>751587620
shut up negro

>>751583819
I think I'm just not gonna disclose it, I'm not planning on using AI for any of the assets but I have vibe coded all of the code.
I made a game on steam before AI was a thing so I can always point to that to say I can hand write code (I can, just lazy).
I think not addressing it is the highest sales move.

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>>751584820
>I have an artist persona on instagram/twitter with a super unique style that has become my primary source of income.
>AI
>Super unique style
literally an oxymoron stop larping, gurpreet
>>751585826
He's larping you dumb faggot nigger

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>>751583819
How would you add sawdust to your bread without getting lynched? The obvious answer is just not adding it in the first place. Openly disclosing your bread as "Low quality product for desperate shit eaters" could also be a viable alternative.

just use it and wait for the luddites to grow into irrelevance

>>751589723
this. so much this sir. redeem the Claude(tm) subscription today. thanks you. rape you next week!

>>751583819
You are gay op

It's been proven numerous times that the vocal online crowd =/= the majority
Remember the fuss everyone made online about Hogwarts Legacy? It went on to sell 40 million copies. Sony boycott over death to physical? They post record profits, 100 million PS5 units sold, and negligible PSN impact over the boycott blackout.
Devs and publishers would be shooting themselves in the foot if they caved to what every little pea sized group of timmies had to say on 4chan, Reddit or in the Steam reviews

>>751586829
>luddites are a dying breed
>Microsoft endorses AI
>Entire system dead for 24 hours
>FAA announce new AI system
>Flights grounded the whole day
AItards, what went wrong?

>>751583819
Alot of people seem to be forgetting that AI is a TOOL. And that's what the Big Walk developers used it for. Not to mention they went to top of the line Unity developers, but they still didn't know. They atleast put in an effort. But they used it as a tool, which is extremely different from GenAI

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>>751592836
>what went wrong?
basically,

>>751583819
just don't use it. nvidia is crashing down in real time for going all in on AI.

>>751583819
big walk devs fucked up by being performative about it anyway
if I was an indie dev I would just skip the IGF from now on considering not even steam cares if you use AI to help with coding

>>751592836
Systems made by AI are actually more resilient, the problem is automated and sophisticated AI cyberattacks.

>>751583819
Just don't tell. Companies already do lots of shady shit like using GPL libraries without providing source code but nobody cares. Just avoid the current outrage.

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>>751583819
just make sure you only release your game on the Google Play Store

>>751583819
That's the neat thing, you don't.
And that's a good thing

>>751583819
You just lie about it and never admit anything even "0.1%"

>>751594624
I thought saars were on Apple
Getting the ick being an android user now

>>751583819
There are probably a shit ton of games bnoth AAA and indie vibeslopping entire gameplay systems and big walk devs are out here telling the world about their 10 lines of code.

>>751583819
Hire artists to make deliberately AI looking art. Keep posting it then reveal to the outrage mob that they are shitting on "real human talent". Repeat until they have been fully demoralized.

>Be a working artist, like what I do making illustrations for big projects, concept art, that kind of shit.
>I dabbled in 3D sculpting years and years ago, but never learned any serious game-dev skills. No modeling, no animated, no rigging, texturing, etc.
>LLMs are a thing. Originally, experiment with having ChatGPT tell me how to set up a simple Google script to scrape my commission emails and fill a spreadsheet with the contents.
>Since that seems to kind of work, just sort of keep doing it. Better scripts to manage stuff, a minor tool, then a rebuild for my portfolio site so I can stop paying a shitty template host for it.
>By this time, LLMs have gotten so good at code that with a little effort I can bring almost anything I want to life.
>Start working on a super little game project just for myself and my viewers, because I've literally always wanted it but never could because I can't program.
>It starts blowing up into a full-on game with tons of features, net-code, databases, all kind of crazy shit. So many times bigger than the initial plan. All existing because LLMs can write the code, and I can do the art and make it what I want.

I lived 35 years in the world of "If you can't make yourself learn it, or pay someone a lot of money to do it, you have to accept it will never exist", and now that we're in the world of "With a little bit of effort and directing, that thing you always thought should exist, can exist.", and some people are mad at that because they're religiously against the Magic Text Generator technology.

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>>751594875
very based

>>751594875
I didn't know government workers posted on 4chan.

literally just don't disclose it

>>751584820
>I have an artist persona on instagram/twitter with a super unique style that has become my primary source of income.
>b-b-but I'm not going to link it here or mention it by name or even take a quick screenshot because...do your own research luddite!
Believable.

>>751595823
If you spend half a minute on Twitter, you'll find that there is a LARP that probably started sometime ago in the Youtube space, and blew up with crypto, and now has moved to AI, where people insist either they or someone they know is making $50k/month using AI to day trade, arbitrage, buy Polymarket wagers, make Youtube shorts, make porn bots, sell websites, whatever the fuck you can dream up.

None of it is real, but some people are really invested in trying to convince you they're crushing it so that you can beg them for the secrets and give them attention (or buy their course, because 100% the dude who knows someone making thousands a month with AI prompts is going to NOT also be doing that, but instead sell you a course on how it'll totally work for you).

>>751584482
a decompilation is not a perfect reproduction of the source code
i love how ai makes so many people who are clueless about computers think they suddenly have things to contribute to topics of conversation that they know nothing about

>>751596165
>i love how ai makes so many people who are clueless about computers think they suddenly have things to contribute to topics of conversation that they know nothing about
And when you point this out, they become absolutely livid. Its unbelievable. I dont know shit about mountain climbing, if I was trying to speak with authority on it and some guy who clearly knew what he was talking about corrected me, I would either admit I fucked up or just stop posting. These stupid fucks will fucking sit there and argue with you about it. They'll say the sky is purple with pink fucking polka dots right to your fucking face because the slop machine said so.

>>751583819
just lie, it's OP
>art looks sus/bad
i am new/beginner artist pls understand :D
>code is wonky
i am new/beginner coder pls understand :D
>game bad
maybe my game just isn't for you pls understand :D

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So if AI is such a great tool and the only ones who is against it are a small group of deranged luddite lefty trannies etc etc. why is the AI crowd so scared of admitting they used AI to make a game? If most people are onboard then it shouldn't be a big deal, surely.

>>751596420
>youre a liar
>youre a liar
>youre a fucking liar, get fucked slopper

>>751596424
No see somehow this small minority ban effect bottom lines by 50%. Somehow. But theyre totally a minority.

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>>751596424
because it correctly identifies them as larpers that don't actually have the skills they portray to have
even going as far as calling it a political statement just to somehow get people to remove it because nothing's worse for them than being identified as the unskilled subhuman filth they are