>Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection:https://atlus.com/etrianorigins/https://sq-atlus.jp/sq123/>Origins Portrait Rips:https://mega.nz/folder/1tASnSbb#E23CLm1oJ71WrB0_gnt3lA>Origins Font Fixes:https://gamebanana.com/mods/447602 (EO1)https://gamebanana.com/mods/447609 (EO2)https://gamebanana.com/mods/447653 (EO3)>EO3 "Liberating" ModPC:https://files.catbox.moe/jodrax.zipPC hair version:https://files.catbox.moe/szvevp.zipSwitch:https://pixel drain com/u/AwKKreQ8Switch hair version:https://pixel drain com/u/mNu4HEeHEdited portraits:https://files.catbox.moe/gur7dr.zip>Beginner's Guide to the Series:https://imgur.com/a/ggW5g5U>Etrian Odyssey Resources (Mods/Patches, References, Data Dumps, Calculators, QR Codes, Skill Sims, etc.):https://pastebin.com/LBujh3ra>Etrian Odyssey Art Books:https://pastebin.com/Tm1xN2Jy>Etrian Odyssey FLAC Albums:https://pastebin.com/cE8mdiLF>Etrian Odyssey Lossy Albums:https://pastebin.com/crChVqLB>Nexus balance patch mod:https://mega.nz/#F!o1cXTSpB!SW5Ad-o8_pKYOa9LcbyiSg>Document containing some resources and informationhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1m5G-ZQvXsmM68TCrSv2bWfKz2SfSc7xq-REfMXMhAEc/Previous thread: >>472267075
>>474340861JENETTA SEXO
no sticc sexo in the OP. very sad
>>474341281There's always next time
>>474341281I'm sorry about that, but it's probably the image with the highest concentration of sexo I currently have.
>>474340861sexo, not sexo, sexo, sex, meh sexo, not sexo, not sexo, sexo
oh damn etrian odyssey is actually sexo also I got through the first floor yay
for-chan...mine.
Imperial and Gunbreaker are the same class.
>>474341665I understand. but for me it will always be sticc.
Ok so whats the counter for venom flies cause I can't seem to win an encounter with them.
>>474342450hit them until they die. That's about it. Most ailments, including poison, clears automatically when you win a fight so you don't take poison damage on the turn you win the fight.
>>474342450Bzzt
>ded
>>474348903gub mrningggshower timee~
litterbox is back up!!
>>474376197What the fuck is a ¿ tile
>>474376665
>already dedetriambros...
>>474348321comfy
Update #2Floors 1 and 2 have been meticulously mapped.All donated etriams are Level 5, except for Callie. (More on that in a bit) Arashi, the Thief, is still terrible at identifying trapped treasure chests. I don't quite understand the mechanic for it. It must be an ability modifier, Luck maybe? I could look it up, but In my headcanon, he's just stupid, but overconfident."Oh yeah, this chest has a fireball trap on it, let me just... pull this wire..." *Poison Arrow Trap*Callie had the stats to spec into an advanced class. So she's a Bishop. Which means she keeps her HP, but is back to level 1. Bishops can identify loot, so she's been identifying all the shit we've been hoarding so we can sell it to the shop.Wulfric, the mage, is kind of stupid. His low I.Q. means he doesn't know as many spells as the other mage, Fluff. Although he can potentially spec into the advanced class of Archer. Maybe it's time to put down the magic tome, and pick up a bow.And, the Fighter, is the party's tank, being blessed with high HP. And then there's Teach. She somehow aged well beyond the other party members. Aging is a mechanic I won't get into, but she's the oldest somehow. She tries her hardest.With the influx of more gold from stronger enemies, and the ability to identify and sell loot, the party will be grinding a bit on Floor 2 to buy better armor before delving deeper.
Man, this fight against Guild Esbat is pretty cool. Facing off against humans is always exciting, there is even a unique battle theme just for this one fight to make it feel even more special. Boy, I sure do hope no one ruins this tense moment by yelling something homophobic on turn 2 and then wailing on a guitar for the rest of the fight.Seriously, every boss is gonna be like this for now on isn't it? I'll admit that giving the Fafnir his own force boost theme was kino at first, but now that I have extend, its getting kind of annoying. I like the music, but I like the boss music too. The theme isn't special when its ALWAYS active.
>dodge tank fencer>mindlessly level up the taunt skill>now it costs too much damn TPHow much have I dicked myself?
>>474402136Just rest
>>474402136>dodge tank fencer>How much have I dicked myself?yes
>>474341665how can it be sexy when there's not a single flat chest in the OP
>>474376665Etria is another name for Mexico
>>474406815Love me some chorizo eatin' etriams
>>474409458chorizos EAT etriams?!I haven't seen that FOE.
>>474410882Etriams make my chorizo the big chorizo, if you know what I mean.
>>474410882Don't most FOEs eat etriams?
>>474411089some of them just step on you
>>474402136>eo4>decide to bushi main class in NG+>make a team of 5 before hand>unlock subclasses>NG+>start adventuring>level up blood surge>it starts just strait up killing me at low levels and cant do shit>rest>realize i dont have subclassing yet unlocked>last save was after training blood surge 6fug
>>474413686>Doesn't even leave you with 1 HPThat's just straight up uncourteous of them.
BROUJOB BROUJOB CHOO CHOO
http://edit.s2.xrea.com/sq5/Happy to see that this is still up
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/893659-etrian-odyssey-v-beyond-the-myth/73049332Was he right?
>>474420078>EOV came out 8 years ago
>>474419072Tummy bnnuy my beloved...
>>474422538I know right? It feels like its been longer.
>>474423650it felt like it was like 4 years ago or something
>>474419072
>>474432754>where the hood >where the hood >where the hood at
>>474449660No, Ricky
>>474449660ai?
>>474450563no, surprisingly
TASUKETE
>>474449660thatas one really high up vagina
Been playing Stranger of Sword City but think I might drop it soon.
>>474471027experienceslop is genuinely the worst
>>474471146It was fun, for a bit, but even with the added classes it falls flat after mausoleum of storms. Maybe I'll try Elminage or one of the jap Wizardry games that have gotten a recent PC release.
>>474471146Sometimes I think about trying some of those games, like Undernauts: Labyrinth of Yomi since the art looks nice, but all I ever hear about those experience devs is mixed at best.What's so bad about the games?
Play Kowloon
>>474471696I've enjoyed all of the Starfish developed games that I've played. Although I haven't played Elminage Gothic, and I heard people had issues with the game. Not sure why.
>>474478013Let me get this straight... a game with relationship building in a high-school during the day and dungeon delving at night... so, Persona 3.
>>474480094But good
>>474493859>3 hours ago
>>474479789It's slightly inconvenient to add custom portraits. https://www.mediafire.com/download/6y88fnp3rujq39b/BRAUnpack.zip
>>474541849You can turn on auto-map
>>474542248you didn't beat the game
>>474542526I never did that
>>474541849Pretty much every other game in the genre
is there a game that automatically deletes the map as you go?
Guess kemono's fucking dead
>>474546031I'd play Etrian Hunter
>>474546869I wouldn't mind a cross-promotion. Atlus adds a Monster Hunter class in Etrian Odyssey 6, and Capcom adds DLC where they take 3 or 4 of the most noteworthy/interesting FOEs and turn them into huntable monsters.Naturally their carves would make, like, Atlus Gunner's outfit. Or something.
>>474547487It would have been perfect for MHGU. EO was relevant, there were a lot of weird dlc, like Fire Emblem. They could just add an armour or two, and make a quest to kill an orange Tetsucabra, or purple Kirin. Plus, Himukai is into MH
tinpo
time to rest
>>474542248>>474542792who are you guys talking to?
>>474577815the forgotten one
>>474577815urmomlol
tintin
>>474572890shh, rest
>>474580298>>474580746seriously though, why was the post deleted so fast before it could even archive?
Dragon etriams
>>474602117it did get archived
>>474572890>>474598528B-b-but, I don't want to loose 5 levels.
>>474609530Huh, that's bizarre. What archive are you using?Well, anyways the post probably wasn't that interesting. I was just curious why it got deleted so quickly.
>>474542526under that logic, you must feel the same with auto-battle. In both instances, the game plays itself. (It does not have fun. It is a computer)
>>474619846Not them but I don't think I've ever clicked on auto-battle.Regardless, I don't think that's equivalent, as mapping is fun and immersive, whereas battling low-level mooks where you just steamroll them isn't. The former requires a bit of creativity sometimes, too.
Rest well
I've only played EOV but I need a new game to play on my 3DS when I'm traveling, etc.Which 3DS Etrian title should I play?
>>474640087All of them in any order, but leave Nexus for last.
>>474619261he was probably embarrassed and deleted it himself
>>474613208you damn kids, back in my days whenever I wanted to rest I'd lose A WHOLE TEN levels. You punks have it too easy
>>474661728bock in MAI DAY, doonjuns were mayd oov WIRE wif NO graficks at AYULL! Yoos be luckee ta 'ave a bleedin icon oov ya JOOB CLUS. Unya be toolkin bout coostamizabul por-TRATES.Ya MALK DRINKAHS.
>>474670261nopan?
https://www.nicovideo.jp/user/22394364/series/36554
HELM SPLITTER
Next StageNext Year
>>474693123never ever
Is Protector/War Magus/Landsknecht front Gunner/Troubadour back a good party for 2U classic?Also is it worth it to grab any of the DLC?
Which etrian game had your favorite music?
>>4746947573
>>474694757>my favourite single track2. Shiver is my favourite battle theme in the series.>my favourite soundtrack in general3.
>>474694076War Magus really appreciates a Survivalist or Hexer to inflict ailments for them, so I would recommend fitting one in if you want to use them. I'm sure you could manage without using Grimoires or even Random Disease, but it wouldn't be super optimal.As the eShop has closed, you can only get the DLC via homebrew, which is free so you might as well. It gives you the Highlander class and a couple new boss fights.
>>474694076The hell is Landy doing in that party?
>>474709520his best
>>474706581Noted, I already made the mistake of using DH in U1 without a hexer so don't want a repeat of that.>>474709520Is landy really that bad? I thought he'd just be a good damage dealer since I don't want to use ronin again.
>>474715813Landy is not bad, but if you just want raw damage dealer you have better options.Landy's real strength are Chasers.
EO is alive bros *cough*
>>474717624What other classes work well with landy?>>474706581How's highlander? I know it has the using HP for attacks gimmick but I didn't use them in U1.
>>474718864>What other classes work well with landy?Chaser landy works great with Palmchemist, Gunner, Sovereign, Troubadour.
>>474718825demonicabros...
>>474718825>Shota Hero costume instead of the older male.What did Atlus mean by this?
>>474724243He is nice and molestatable
>>474694076Taking the replies into account, how would a Protector/War Magus/Highlander front Gunner/Hexer party be? I'm also considering swapping the gunner for a survivalist. Dark Hunter might be better than highlander with this team comp but I used a DH in U1 and wanna try some classes I haven't used.
>>474718864>What other classes work well with landy?If you do a chase shark then palmchemist and gunner. If not, then anything really. Landy is kinda bland if she's not chasing, there's nothing wrong with her, but if you aren't gonna do a chase party then I recommend picking someone else.
>>474641094I decided I'll just go with EOIV then.
Now that it's all settled and done, who did it best? Who did it worst?
>>474753048Harbinger sexohttps://litter.catbox.moe/2mhvuj.jpgThat is all I want to say
>>474753048Harbingers are easily the best.
>>474753048i like all of them but prefer hexer the most for being dedicated to ailments and not half-measured into healing and damage like arcanist and harbinger
>>474753048sticc is the sexiest, and therefore the best. Though I do think the circles being able to either keep trying or be dispelled for a heal makes them the most fun to use.Harbingers felt a bit annoying to set up in 5 due to how many points they need to make mist armor good but a good debuffer overall. Though when it came to ailments I felt they were a bit lacking, and I got more use out of necro's poison bomb and tombstone vice. I do like how they're tanky enough to stand in the front which is more than the other debuffers.Hexer feels numerically the strongest but is pretty simple overall. Which is fine really.wildling seemed pretty alright to me, though their damage seemed pretty lacking so the summon sticking around felt like it was mostly just to absorb stray hits sometimes. Which they're not bad at since they have high max hp. AOE instant death is always fun for randoms at least.
I deserve a troubadour gf?
Is there some secret to getting the Fine Sapling? I've done over 50 runs through the Fetid Necropolis and I haven't gotten a single one.
>>474702385I WANT YOUTO FEAR MEI WANT YOUTO HATE ME
>>474556270I see he's a Hammerfag too, pretty based of him to like the best weapon
>>474762554different gathering points can have different chances for each material, so maybe try a different one if you haven't yet
>>474753048i like all of them but prefer hexer the most for being naked
Planning out my EOIV party - are Nightseekers kinda bad? Just looking at is Shadow Bite is only 440%, conditionally, for a whopping 20 TP while Landsknecht's Sword Tempest is 400% for only 13 TP.
>>474773453nightseekers are basically the highest damage in the game next to a stanced up landsknecht fully invested in links. you are ignoring follow trace and the nightseeker class passive
>>474764009He is a gunlance user, he posted a lot of his character on twitter when Rise was new. I'm pretty sure Dragoon is 'heavily inspired' by GL
>>474798161me on the right
>Ceola (Harbringer) and Canth (War Magus) (These two are mandatory as I wanted to run a Granddaughter/Grandfather Combo)>Remora (Medic) >Cod (Survivalist)>???Decide the last slot.
>>474807328Highlander
>>474804862you're a cute war magus who needs a step stool to stand almost as tall as Etriam's signature(tm) loli?that can't be possible. you must mean FAR right. As in, out of frame.Otherwise, show me a little fang as proof.
>>474773453Anon, I...
sticc
Help, Life Alert, I've fallen and can't get up.
>>474835691Dumb bitch, thats what you get for binding your own arms like that.
>>474847227don't kink shame her like that
>>474835691Her behind is defenseless.
>>474848585Would you say that her ass is in danger?
>>474847227The fuck you just say you little bitch?
>>474753048>>474758416Is Sticc as bad in Nexus as anons make her out to be?
>>474855779she's not even good in her own game
>>474855779I don't know who's making her out to be bad but she's good in both 4 and Nexus.
Holy shit I can't belive Next Stage is getting announced before June 8. The wait is almost over.
>>474859941Anon.....
>>474859941
>>474860926>>474863845Why are you acting like he was being serious?
>>474855779seemed fine to me.
the strongest
>>474881770SAIKYOU DA
>>474882274The Golem crusher
What voice did you use for lolihero? I had to go with the tomita miyu orekko.
>>474887993I don't use voices
>>474889760I'm sorry to hear that you missed out on tomita miyu orekko.
>>474855779I liked Sticc in Nexus, I had noe issue with using her as the healer, the only time I changed her out was in the larvae queen fight, I think, and maybe Dinginator
Rice loving etriams
>>474773453yeah, they're so bad that they make the game boring.
When does Survivalist get good? I swear its not surviving anything
>>474899839Which game?
>>474900884Nexus. Am I doung something wrong? He keeps getting hit.
>>474901229With Chain Dance? Unfortunately it's just not very good in Nexus. Survivalist is probably one of the weaker classes in the game, but it still has some neat things, like Trickery+Force Boost/Break giving you pseudo-Blind for 6 turns, Drop Shot for randoms, and Scapegoat for specific gimmick strats.
>>474340861
>>474910065>With Chain Dance? Unfortunately it's just not very good in Nexus.Darn, so much for alternative tanks.
>>474905568F.O.E. is controlling that cursor
Update #3All donated etriams are level 8-10. Arashi is the highest level, at 10. I think thieves require less EXP to level up than other classes. He's gotten better at disarming traps on chests. ...I hope. Treasure traps in Wizardry can get pretty brutal in deeper parts of the dungeon, such as leveling down your characters. And died in the last expedition into the dungeon to a three-headed hound. He takes point for the party, and thus sponges a lot of damage. This is his role, but our Bishop was not able to heal him as fast as he was losing HP.We gave the church 900 gold to revive him. To put this price in perspective, a good weapon is around 70 gold. A REALLY good weapon is 150-300. But the party is pretty loaded, and Teach was just about able to foot the bill on her own wallet. Speaking of the Bishop, Callie, her Alignment has shifted from Good to Evil. Not exactly sure when or why it happened. I may have accidentally fought a friendly group of monsters, and the Gods are displeased with her. Whoops. In a lot of Wizardry games, Good characters will simply refuse to party with Evil characters, while Neutral characters can group with either. In this game, it doesn't seem to be an issue. The party remains together.Wulfric and Fluff are the pair of back row magic users. Due to Wulfric being Neutral, and Fluff being Good, their spell lists are slightly different. ...At least I think thats why. At their levels, their AOE spells make short work of groups of enemies. The dungeon has been meticulously mapped down to the 5th floor. There is a sizable chunk of the floor inaccessible. There must be secret doors leading into these areas, or perhaps stairs from lower levels leading back up.
>>474945845RIP And, at least he didn't get turned into ashes
>>474901229>heWell there's your problem. They're not weak but it'll take some time to build evasion. It's not going to make you 100% invincible all the time. You ideally want to use their force boost/break in combination with blind and/or trickery, that'll give the survivalist and whole party good evasive defense. Drop shot is good for deleting back row enemies and hazy arrow is great when you get a dodge off. Ninja sub can be good to give them more passive evasion as well. A lot of their attack skills have good modifiers but you need to build their strength stat if you want better damage out of them. This is because these modifiers are built with their middling strength in mind. Another tip is that mirage arrow (their force break) will force the enemy to go last which is very good against certain bosses/FOEs that use counter moves. Scapegoat can also be good in the right setups. They can also use it on themselves if I remember right.
>>474947339This is always a concern, yeah. I believe you have one more chance to try to revive from ash (for more money) before the character is perma-deleted from your save file. A TPK is the real nightmare scenario. As, /eog/ didn't quite donate enough etriams for me to have a retrieval party. If the group dies, I'll need to go fetch their bodies, one or two at a time, which means I should really have four more adventurers on standby.
>>474948106
>>474964420why is mediko so often the one bullied in fan art?
>>474964803very rapeable physique
>>474947356Ah shoot thanks. I know right now my party is somewgat struggling as a whole right now. Like my Harbinger/Magus Combo is struggling to get fully synergizes quite yet. My Imperial gets like 2 hits in before being out of mana. And well my medic's heals cost less TP than my Botanist in EO5, I find myself way more mana starved, and my botanist in EO5 was constantly applying ailments. So maybe Nexus is just a harder game.Should I swap Imperial for Zodiac and move Survivalist to the front row? I'd hate to do it, but he was the only class in the party I was Give/Take on.>>heMale Survivalist #2 looks really cool. And I like to make my party an evenish split between men and women so I can ship them :)
>>474970991Imperials aren't great for normal encounters and are better at big burst damage on FOEs/bosses. You can keep them or swap, either way is fine. They get a TP regain attack which will help with that once you get to the next tier of skills. Survivalist has quick step which is good for letting them get their drive skills off immediately without worrying about the reduced defense. Survivalist can work in the front row if you want increased aggro towards them for chain dance/hazy arrow. >And I like to make my party an evenish split between men and women so I can ship them :)I make parties all loli so I can ship them. To each their own.
Going from III to IV makes it feel like they fired some good artists between games or something. I mean just compare the Porcelain Forest to the Forgotten Capital. Though I'll admit no song in IV has made me as mad as the one for the lava stratum in III. God what a hideous place.
>>4749754324's OST is great, fuck you. Misty Ravine's bgm is one of my favorites. It's the same composer, Yuzuo Koshiro, by the way.
>>474978416Then I have no idea what happened, though I didn't mean only the music. The 2nd, 4th and 5th stratum just feel cooler overall, the music/art/enemies mesh really well together (though looking back the fish city having almost no lore is weird, then again it fits the nature of the series).
>>474979747wasn't IV supposed to be unique, in that it was kind of a 'soft reboot' to the series. What with it being the first 3DS entry.Isn't it the first in four entries to get rid of the mole as an early labyrinth enemy. The, uh. red fella with the claws and yellow eyes...Or wasn't he in III?Point being, I think the stylistic changes were intentional.
>>474979747The stratums look good in 4 so I don't know what you're on. The post game stratum in particular is really damn cool. 4 was the first to jump to 3D enemy models so maybe you just prefer the 2D art. 4 still has a lot of my favorite Himukai portraits as well.
>>474975432Porcelain Forest is the coolest fifth stratum sure but most of the other Stratums in 3 were nothing too special
>>474980893I found the jump to 3D iffy but I'll admit some of the enemies use it well, like the rollers covering their faces when low on HP/afflicted with a status effect.
>>474981603it did make dinogator look a bit goofy and less intimidating. Though he's just another 2nd stratum FOE again.
>>474981603I still love the 2D portraits but it was ultimately a good change due to being able to actually see what the FOEs are. The orange balls still have their charm of course.
>>474947356>>he>Well there's your problem.You posted a cute boy though.
>>474982221No, fuck off. She's a cute tomboy but not a boy.
>>474982221I will not have you disrespect MY etriam.SHE is ELITE tomboy.
>>474340861>playing EO3HD>finally get subclassing>spec out a whole team>have easy clears for random battles>but no plan for bossfightsHaven't picked the game up in months because I don't know how to fix it. Any suggestions?Team is Glad(Arb)/Hop/Monk(Sov)/Nin(Zod)/Ygg(Buc)My Yggdroid experiment didn't come out as well as I'd have liked. I don't mind respec-ing and getting new subclasses, but I'd prefer not to have to make a new level 1 character.
>>474640087I decided to plan my party out now. I really liked using Harbinger and Botanist in V even if statuses really cheesed most FOEs and bosses. So, because I think statuses are fun, I think I'd like to use Nightseeker and an Arcanist. Aside from that I don't really know who else I want to use. Something like:>Nightseeker/Bushi>Arcanist/Medic>Dancer >Runemaster>???Looking at Dancer's defense buff it seems like they can kind of do Fortress's job aside from the elemental damage reduction which I figure Runemaster can do.
>>474994823Are you building the ygg for swashbuckling gun normal attacks with a focus on crits? Never tried it before but it might be okay if lady luck, data mining, swashbuckling, and overheat are all maxed and you have elemental/crit forges and/or imbue. If your ninja is subbed zodi, you're either using them for support or are double magic casting for damage since ninja have good tec. Either the ninja or the ygg needs to do some damage to help your gladiator out.
>>474996172I was curious about follow-up spam, so my Yggdroid is doing bots and elemental follow-ups. Not nearly as much output as I hoped. Overheat/crit will probably be more reliable. Ninja is more of an ailment build, and petrify abuse is how I wipe out most randos. I honestly just took sub Zodiac to give her something to do when bosses are still on ailment cooldown.
>>474997305Shogun/bucc is the best source of chases with second sword and swashbuckling combined. You could try a punch ygg by subbing them monk if the bucc sub isn't working out.
>>474994823>>474996172Ygg/Bucc with swashbuckling and crit build is honestly really good.Used one in my Ygg party and it was my best damage dealer.Max out Swashbuckling, Lady Luck, Data Mining, Limit Boost and put levels in Overheat depending on how much your Ygg can take the heat. Also, max out Virus Scanner and Infravision.Rapiers>Guns, forge your weapon with elemental forges.Also, it's not worth it to put points into Bots while also putting points into Swashbuckling, Bots are only truly worth it when you max them and you don't have enough skill points to spread yourself thin like that.
Played a bit of Labyrinth of Refrain. Liked the artstyle, didn't like the soundtrack, felt like the intro/prologue was messy. The auto-mapping is discouraging too. Let's see if it gets better, I can't stop comparing it to Etriam so far.
>>475013530didnt asked
>>475013530I saw it was on sale but i don't know if i want to bother getting it, everything about the game screams typical NIS shit to me where it doesn't really do much unique and the few things it does are not that interesting. I see a ton of reviews complaining that you can just autobattle the game away, and I don't think galleria is supposed to be much betternow gensokyo labyrinth or potato flowers, there are some crawlies
>>475013895*smooch*>>475013923I got it recommended to me long ago in an Etriam tred so I felt like giving it a try. Will see how it goes.
>>474972903Cutest duo in 3
>>475013530I absolutely hate the class system i. Thw game.
>>474972903Imps can do fine in randos with Natural Edge or their normal attacks, especially with imbues. Their slowness just means they won't be sniping enemies before they attack unless you've got other team members helping with that.
WAR REVIVE
EO 3 is crashing as soon as I step into the first floor, is that common or is it just my pirated copy?
>>475054259What are your pc specs?Because that happened to me before I bought a better pc because the one I had before was just a glorified old ass office pc
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2518960/Wizardry_Proving_Grounds_of_the_Mad_Overlord/Here's your Next, please enjoy
>>475079358Not enough sexo in this
>>475079967maybe you can mod the portraits
speaking of, remember when this was etrian odyssey and dungeon crawlers generalonly real etriams will remember
>>475080181I still treat it as a dungeon crawl general.
The Class of Heroes port is out tomorrow. I've known about the series for a long time but never got around to it so I might finally give them a try.
>playing Nexus in friendly competition with Brother>get to the plant boss at the end of the tutorial.>use a defense debuff and fire oil.>Drive Blade does like 285 damage, easily defeat boss without issue.>brother gets to plant boss>His Imperial does over 650 damge with its drive blade.>Not even remotely over leveled and had less skill invested in drive blade than mine.There's no winning this is there?
>>475100205Take the L this round with grace, go for the big W on the next.
>>475100205Is your bro running both Shogun and Sovereign or something?
>>475102132>Hero>Imperial >Harbinger>Sovereign>Arcanist He knows more about EO than me, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was some cheese strat here.>>475100737Good idea, I'm sure once I unlock the next skill tree I'll catch up quickly.
>>475103194aside from the arcanist that's basically the four strongest classes in the game
>>475103272Well I think he's just running Arcanist as his healer because he simply likes sticc. EO4 is his favorite game in the series and him trying to explain how the class works is how this whole thing started
Second Call to Arms>Donate (You)r Etriam Today!there is no guarantee of safety, and you may not get your etriam back in the same condition you donated them inSame as last time, pick a character from your current or last play-through. >Name (7 Character Limit)>Sex>Class (Fighter, Priest, Thief, Mage)>EO Guild (So I know who to deliver the urn to)
>>475103194Harb plus Sov is pretty much the ideal burst damage combination, so I suppose that makes sense
>>475103272>>475105480This will sound petty, but it bugs that we ended up overlapping in two classes. Should I respect my Harbinger into Nightseeker and my Imperial into something else? Or should I curb my autism and keep going as is?
Open in case of emergency.
>>474340861I call it E-TRAIN
>>475108023I'd sooner replace the Hero with Nighseeker for more damage and ailment support for Imperial
>>475122720Uh no, that's his party. Mine I've posted here a few times. >Survivalist (Dodge tank lmao)>War Magus>Habringer>Medic>Imperial
>>475062441My pc is actually pretty good, I have no clue why it's crashing, maybe because it's an old buggy version or something? Did this game get a lot of updates?
Does Landsnekcht/Sniper make sense to do? I don't have anyone in my party who can really inflict binds so I figure I'd sub my Landy into Sniper to get access to all of those bind skills since I mostly just want the Landy for the utility of making the party do more damage with their passive anyways
>>475122720>>475127047Whoops my apologies, didn't intend for my reply to come off as a dick.
>>475128151Landy are damage dealers. Their proficiency skill is nice for giving everybody else extra damage/accuracy but they should also be contributing good damage themselves. If you find a bow and blade wielding Landy thematically cool then go for it but their luck isn't great if I remember right so they probably won't be too reliable with binds.
>>475130734I'm just trying to decide what to fill in the last slot of my party with, I'm using>Dancer/Fortress>Nightseeker/Bushi>Arcanist/Medic>Runemaster/ImperialEOIV is really easy afaik so I'm not too concerned with being super optimal
>>475100205Don't worry, Nexus is a fucking marathon, the winner will be determined by endurance not strength or skill. The looser will be whoever gets tired of playing first.>>475127047That said, you are at quite a disadvantage with that party.For the love of god drop medic, not just because medic is kind of a weak class in general, but because you already have 3 other healers on your team.As you probably already realized, survivalist is not a dodge tank. He mainly uses dodges to activate hazy arrow, not to tank.
I hear Potato Flowers in Full Bloom is decent, and is somewhere around 20 hours of gameplay...On one hand, $17.99+Tax on the Switch feels a bit high, like I should wait for a sale...But on the other hand, I paid $60+Tax for Mario Wonder, and 100% the game in less than 20 hours...So...
>>475136729It's not good enough that I'd pay $20 for it but it's decent enough that I'd be fine with $10
>>475136924that's sort of my feeling, yeah. I guess I'll wait.
>>475136294>you already have 3 other healers on your team.I can get War Magus, though I was mostly going to run the old man as my binder. And I can guess the second one is Harbinger, but who's the last one?>As you probably already realized, survivalist is not a dodge tank. He mainly uses dodges to activate hazy arrow, not to tank.I was a tad saddened by this one, but I really don't want to run a Protector. My big complaint is it always feels like 3/5 of my team slots has to pay the Protector/Medic/Mage tax.
>>475136729if it matters, this is something you could replay with wildly different party compositions because each party is 3 distinct members with a good amount of classes to choose fromif you have no intention to replay it then sure, wait, it goes on sale on steam often enough
>>475134821The superior samurai.
>>475135651Fortress?
>>475127306I never had a problem, and the game barely had any updates
>>475142921I don't want to use a Fortress/Protector if I can get away with it. I'm planning to have the Dancer perform the same role as Fortress basically, and actually subbing them into Fortress later. I also feel like I need the last character to be one that can fit in the front line to benefit from the Dancer buffs so that the dancer isn't exclusively buffing the Nightseeker
>>475144104>male nightseekers are badass vampire hunter>female nightseekers are creepy sluts>we never got robbed of a cool qt vampire huntet
>>475139553>Who's the last one?Survivalist with efficiency and sorting skill.>My big complaint is it always feels like 3/5 of my team slots has to pay the Protector/Medic/Mage tax.Don't fall for that newb trap. I mean look at your brother, he didn't use any of those classes.You certainly don't need a mage, at the end of the day that's just DPS, there are plenty of other classes to fill that role.You REALLY don't need a medic, as I implied earlier, the main problem with medic as a class is that a lot of other classes can do their job while also doing something else at the same time.Protector is the only one you gotta think about, and you don't need that either if you build your team right (You do need it for EO1 and EO2 post game and the EO1U superboss, however that's irrelevant). The most common way to do that in etrian is with ailments and binds, but you can also stack defensive buffs and debuffs.Survivalist can still protect the team, just not by dodge tanking. The main problem with chain dance is that it's an aggro draw skill, which means that after early game it becomes extremely situational. Aggro draw skills don't do anything to protect the party against target line and target all moves which become extremely common later. Chain dance is still really good against random target moves though, so I would still get the skill just for those situations. Surv's main way to protect the team is by basically boosting the whole party's evasion via blind, trickery (but don't actually use trickery, your party already has too many good debuffs to waste a slot on that), and most importantly their force boost and break. In addition they also get scapegoat which like chain dance has some situational uses. So even though they're not really tanking, they are still preventing damage.In addition, you also have strength slash which I think is the strongest attack debuff in Nexus. Don't forget about elemental mist items and the defend command either.
>>475159705Ok, fine advice. Well I am fairly early in the run. So what is the best team composition I can run if I want to build my team around Hazy Shots? Because that's what I really want.Also no Harbinger, Imperial, Hero, Sovereign. I don't want to copy my brothers style.
>>475164575I don't even remember what this class does
In EO4, how are you supposed to reach the big scale in the back of the Boiling Lizard's lair? I know you break it with Ice Stakes, but I kept getting trapped. I eventually got frustrated and just beat the boss without breaking it.
>>475105467(me)Time for some good ol' fashioned conscription. May the Gods look after:>Evelyn>Female>Fighterof guild>Laguna>Aurora>Female>Mageof guild>Triad>Zoss>Male>Mageof guild>Royalty>Amelie>Female>Fighterof guild>Historiaand>Natalya>Female>Thiefof guild>Terminus
>>475170147Choco bnnuy sexo 2x
give me a naming convention for my etriams
>>475176138constellations
>>475176138Fighting game characters
>>475086894If you ever played an Experience game it's pretty much the same shit. In fact the first CoH is a romhack of one of their old games.
>>475176138condiments
I finally beat EOU on expert/classic, first EO game I've actually beat, played 3 and 4 but dropped them years ago and decided to start from the "beginning" of the series. This certainly felt harder than those two, didn't help my team wasn't planned out too well, but I still enjoyed the game a lot and its probably one of my favorite DRPGs now.Also I'm the type of autist that likes making little stories for my characters so here's the ending I wrote for all of them:>After defeating what was at the bottom of the labyrinth, the five guildmembers of Gjallar reveled in their newfound stardom.>Being gifted a medal of honor, Albertus immediately took it for himself, thinking he was the most valued member of the team.>Aglibol was about to argue the medal should be his, but then Albertus suddenly turned to Marga, and gave her the medal as a sign of his love.>Marga accepted, and the two embraced while a crowd of townspeople cheered behind them. Aglibol makes a crass joke as Alexander looks flustered and Tsurugi looks like she could care less.>After a week of celebrations and heavy drinking, the medic and alchemist were wed. The two gave up adventuring and decided to focus on trying to find ways to improve medicine and better life for all.>Tsurugi left one night without a word. Rumors say to listen closely if you smell smoke in the dungeon, as you might hear Tsurugi and her burning-hot blade cleaving through her foes. >Aglibol, much like Albertus and Marga, gave up adventuring. He became an adult "entertainer" specializing in bondage, but failed to make a profit as his clients complained his bindings never worked.>He later died of auto-erotic asphyxiation.>As for Alexander? With Gjallar disbanded, he left to go find a new team to protect.>... This time hopefully realizing he needs to learn how to block elemental attacks before his team wipes to them.
>>475160703>I want to build my team around Hazy ShotsDon't do that. Hazy shot isn't good enough to build a whole team around. I know the numbers on Hazy Shot are good, but thats to make up for survivalists terrible STR. Instead I'll simply just suggest a team with survivalist in it that features a fair amount of dodging.>no Harbinger, Imperial, Hero, SovereignRonin and gunner it is then. They actually have a bit of synergy with surv too anyway.Anyway heres the party, it turned out to be a bit of a lock out party, which does mean it has a bit of anti synergy with hazy arrow, since surv can't dodge if enemies can't attack but whatever.Ronin/landyWar Magus/NightseekerNinja/Sovereign (This nig is REALLY SP hungry so be careful how you spend your points)gunner/something (lot of good sub choices here, somewhat dependent on whether you want to focus more on ricochet or charges)Surv/ninja or landy
>>475190934Ah shoot, thanks anon. Now I will win for sure. Though Ninja sounds a bit intimidating, but I'm willing to be a bit Jewish on the points.
Does it matter what type of weapons my Nightseeker has equipped? (i.e. dagger and a sword vs two daggers vs two swords etc)
>>475185734You don't beat EO until you either finish postgame or postgame breaks you and makes you quit.Also, based autist. Making up stories for your characters is the most fun part.
>>475195373Don't hoard your points, there's a lot of stuff to buy (sov is really good). Plan to rest at level 42.
>>475214273looking at her legs, just makes me wanna...you know.same with those water birds with the long legs.I don't know where the urge comes from.
>>475190934>>475211083Alright, so far it's pretty good. The only thing that has me semi-worried is the lack of healing. But I suppose I can just git gud. Thanks for the advice, it's a real fun team comp.
>>475214273Theoretically speaking, how good would sticc make as a mother? Does she have to use formula?
>>475224139I don't... think? she is a mammal.But let's assume that she is. Breast size doesn't really correlate to mammary gland productivity.At least not in humans, and not in any meaningful way.It's a more interesting thought experiment to envision how fantasy races(species) would do things differently.Maybe their children feed in nectar from what they call "nursery plants"? And mothers have to rambo their way into the jungle to provide for their babies. That feels more interesting for a fantasy world then, "haha, sticc boobies".
>>475231405>sticc boobiesUHM. they're called BUDS.
>>475231405You know, that's a fair point. One has to imagine that perhaps Vessels, being more intune with nature, would rely more upon it. Perhaps, being created by man, they might have complete different biological features. For all we know, they could just get energy via photosynthesis. One thing that is for certain, a vessel would have a hard time raising a human baby seeing as they would quickly grow to be far heavier than what sticc arms could carry.
Get the fuck up you ungrateful cunts
>>475241431No, I want to sleep.
>>475210771How bad is the true final boss? My team is probably too shit for it, I only got through the last few bosses by getting lucky with Dark Hunter boosted viper poison procs.
>>475223698>lack of healingI already went over this, you have healing, its war magus and items. Once you get subclassing then ninja/sov will help out as well. Your main source of healing will be passive with items for the big heals.Survivalist is always your best item user, but IDK if I'd still bother with efficiency on this team. Do get sorting skill eventually but its not a priority. Also level 1 resuscitate is really good for recovering after normal encounters.War Magus doesn't need much investment in healing, get artery to help ninja/sov with passive healing. War magus needs something to do anyway when their force boost isn't active and there arent any ailments up. Early game the level 2 war heal and level 3 line heal you need as prerecs will also be useful, which works because early game war magus has nothing better to do anyway.>>475249418Hes actually pretty easy once you learn his move set if you have a protector. You will have to either take notes on his move patterns or just cheat and look them up. Luckily you also have medic so you don't need to learn his patterns too extensively, with CPR you can afford to make a decent amount of mistakes at predicting the bosses moves. DH wont be too useful but he doesn't need to be, the fight doesn't have a DPS check.
Playing the 3DS remake of EO. Do you recommend playing it in classic or story mode?
>>475252889I strongly advise classic mode for both Untolds.
>>475253771Why?
>>475217978I know right? I just start looking at that thin frail body and all I can think about is how much I just want to pick her up andswear my allegiance to Evolto.
>>475254052Story mode is not EO in my opinion. It was done to try and reach a wider audience and make it more like a normal JRPG. One of the main appealing aspects of the series is making your own party. If you absolutely need your shounen anime story with fixed protagonists to enjoy a game then go ahead but it's not representative of the majority of the series.
>>475252889Do both, play every game more than once, not just the untolds, so you can try out different team builds and classes.But fine, if you're only gonna play it once, then ask yourself how you feel about Etriam having a story and not being able to pick your party. Once you do, the answer should be obvious.If you are okay with not getting to pick your own team, and not being able to do any imagining about your characters, then you should do story mode. If you think that story mode is a violation of what Etriam stands for then do classic.Honestly, if you have to ask, then you probably want story mode. However if this is your first EO game then STOP and pick a different game to start with instead. Story mode should not be your first experience with Etriam.
>>475252889If this is your first EO I implore you to reconsider and try 3 or 4 instead.
>>475251906Oh good idea, thanks. And here I've been vampiring. But artery sounds fun. And sorting sounds reasonable, I wanted to grab the utility skills anyway just for the flavor of it.
I wonder how many people got fucked over by EOU being a remake of the first game and had their first experience with the series being either a shitty story mode or the hardest game in the series.
>>475259414Does playing EO1 vs EO1U make that much of a difference?
>>475257964Vampire is nice, but its conditional thus its not reliable. I mean don't not get level 2 vamp, but maxing it should be a very low priority.
>>475259414U's story team is completely brain dead to pilot and is straight up one of the best teams you can use in that game.Additionally, the exp/gear curve is designed around you doing Ginnugagap, so the people who jumped straight into classic are the ones who fucked themselves over, not the story players.
>>475264834I mean Gladsheim but the point still stands. Locking so much good gear behind a dungeon that can't be accessed in an entire mode was asinine and that's why 2U fixed it.
>>475231405>I don't... think? she is a mammal.why not? they have fluffy cow ears and the dark parts are just a sleeve/legging and not their skin.
>>475259414>or the hardest game in the series.I never understood this sentence. I was never able to tackle EO 1 or EO2 postgame. But I managed to 100% EOU quite easily (on expert)
>>475266103because you didn't use the insanely broken shit in eo1 and eo2, presumablyeo2's superboss is the hardest thing in the series but eou on expert is the hardest overall game
>>475266369Probably.I never managed to reach the super boss in EO1 and EO2.In EOU, I killed primevil with King Grimoires.
>>475266369>eo2's superboss is the hardest thing in the seriesonly if you impose arbitrary restrictions on yourself.>>475266731>King Grimoires.That shit is broken as all hell. I tried beating him without any grimoires at all. Now THAT was a challenge.
>>475266369Ur Child is nowhere close to being the hardest thing in the series. Fighting him at night can be annoying, but during the day, all you have to do is just learn what triggers him and avoid that. Atlus in the 00s had a fetish for pattern bosses so you'll learn him in a few tries.
>>475266891I remember one grimoireless fight against it. I think it took like 40 turns or something.
>>475267582Ahh, a long grindy superboss fight, as god intended.
>>475261597They're completely different games.EO1 is unbalanced (fun) while EOU is unbalanced (trash)
Its hard to say which game is the hardest or easiest, because they're all at around the same level of difficulty really. It really depends on what you value and whether or not you're using online resources.If you arent using any online resources then EO1 and 2 are the hardest because of those 10 level rest costs and the fact that you might not bring protector for post game. The conditional drops are another problem too.Else, if all you care about is the post game, then Untold is probably the hardest because it has the biggest difficulty spike between floors 25 and 26. Although maybe its IV because of some of those enemy formations in the final stratum.Else, if all you care about is the super boss fight, then 2U is the hardest because of the DLC super boss.Else, if all you care about is the main game game then there is no answer because they're all easy. The most difficult main game will probably be whatever game you picked first.Else, if youre the type to get bored, then Nexus is the hardest game because its the one you're most likely to quit playing halfway through and never finish.
>>475277519EOU Classic has the highest difficulty spikes between strata because the game is balanced with the exp gain from Gladsheim in mind.
>>475277519>Although maybe its IV because of some of those enemy formations in the final stratum.I think the danger of the random encounters are a bit overblown. While the first floor is pretty standard and fairly threatening at first the enemies on the other floors are actually pretty passive until you start attacking. While they're certainly dangerous once you hit them you're usually given time to set up or just run.
How is Elimage Gothic? I've played and beaten EO1+2, Strange Journey, Labyrinth of Refrain and Galleria.
>>475272568>EO1 is unbalanced (fun) while EOU is balanced (fun)ftfy
>>475277519Man you are missing a ton of nuance
>didn't notice that picking classic set my music to the OG music in EOU until I beat it>listen to the remixes>they all sound worse than the original trackswhat the fuck
>>475280823I remember I didn't really liked it. But also, I don't enjoy most rpg dungeons besides etrian.What I remember that I didn't like, it was that the spells used stacks and these stacks were used not only in combat, but also after a certain time exploring a dungeon.
>slep
>>475297764
war magnus>medic
>>475300023this is truealso I have never used a medic except in 1U story
Medics are only cool when Overheal exists
Medics and healer-heavy classes in general are boring.Princess best class.
are there any bonuses in the 3DS games for having save files of other 3DS EO games?
>>475307297No, unfortunately
>>475300297Stop it, Princess... Why are you smiling at me like that?
>>475277519Speaking of floor 26, it's kicking my ass so hard I just went to go start Untold 2 instead. The teleporter maze is fine but having to bait the FOE every time to progress is just insufferable, and the encounters just murder me if I even get past that part. Does it get easier if you can get to the rest of the stratum?
>>475307297No, fortunately
>>475279114Nah, ATLUS knows how to balance EXP gains to make sure that you are at the intended level pretty well honestly. You catch up for that pretty quick. In classic mode you will enter each new stratum at 1 or 2 levels below where you are expected to be, however by the time you finish the stratum you will have caught up so it doesn't snowball.Classic mode never felt harder than story for me, being 2 levels under isnt a big deal. The difficulty spike at post game has NOTHING to do with exp gains. Its the poison trees and the floor of pain.>>475279662Exactly, none of the games are actually hard.>>475284676I'm sorry my long post wasn't even longer.>>475314087Its time for that detective to finally be useful. Use his ailment prevention stories on floor 26 to deal with the poison trees.
>>475307297Yes, actually.If you have an Untold 1 save file, then you will get more random people to trade grimoires with in Untold 2.
>>475319665>I'm sorry my long post wasn't even longer.Lol, I'm not a professor, I don't care about word count. You definitely need to replay these games more to find the nuance and maybe change your opinion though. Maybe run some suboptimal parties.
I started playing EOIV and I maxed my Nightseeker's Nerve Throw only for it to basically never proc a single time when I was spamming it an entire encounter with a non-resistant FOE. Are Throw skills just not worth it? I was thinking I'd get the Paralysis and Poison ones but if they're gonna be like this I'd be better off putting those points in something that'd actually help me like Blade FlurryAlso what skill should I upgrade on my Runemaster? All of the novice runes seem to kind of accomplish the same thing
>>475322461you sure it wasn't resistant? or are you not aware of cumulative resistance that builds up and can only be dispelled later in the game?
>>475322683No I'm aware of the cumulative resistance, and none of the monkeys/deer/etc in the first stratum or whatever it's called because it's all in the overworld are immune or resistant to the status
>>475322942Just bad luck then
>>475320614Yeah, I should have used more words, because now I feel like my point just didn't manage to get conveyed to you at all. Then again maybe not, since obviously you're the person who actually needs to use more words as you haven't said anything other than "I think you're wrong." That's okay though, you are under no obligation to get into an internet argument with me about fucking video games. However, just for fun, I am gonna leave you with some bait: all the games are easy even when played sub optimally, maybe you just need to be less shit at turn based games so that you can pilot sub optimal teams better.
>>475300873classic jrpgs have sort of conditioned me that I 'need' a healer. I wish they weren't the squishy white mages of FF, but like beefy clerics like in DnD.
>>475339919This is the reason I love Princess in 2U.Pretty good healer, tanky, fantastic buffs and an elemental nuke.
>>475322461The base chance for a FOE that doesn't resist is actually 50%, so don't expect to have super high inflict chances compared to normal encounters. It gets better once you get the next class unlocked after the second stratum.For RM glacier and galvanic are good single target options, and you'll want at least one of blizzard or origin for aoe. You'll want to max the base runes buffs eventually too, but that's more for late game.
>medic bulletHow do gunners fit a medic in their guns?
>>475319665You don't get access to the gear from Gladsheim and that's the problem. Especially stuff like the Kazak which seriously helps to alleviate TP problems during Stratum 2 and even parts of 3.
I need a buccaneer gf NOW
I've got nothing
>>475319665>Its time for that detective to finally be useful.I completely forgot about him, I'll see if that makes it possible for me to get through that floor.Also staff or sword for war magus in 2?
>>475388287Stop slacking
>>475319665>Its time for that detective to finally be usefulBracing plan is the shit for random encounters
Update #4The new recruits conscripted from the Guild Card archive >>475170147 have been trained to level 4, where they'll wait in town as a retrieval team, or item couriers. In Wizardry games, a TPK doesn't give you a game over. Your party is simply... dead, wherever in the dungeon you were. Want your party back? You need to go in and retrieve the dead bodies one or two at a time, and hope they can be resurrected. This is the main function of the conscripts, or Team Beta. Team Alpha, made up of >Teach from /eog/>Arashi from Ishimori>Callie from Clover>Fluff from OwlGuardand>And from The Funkare still the heroes of this story. Until I get bored, or they get brutally killed by some dungeon creature.They've mapped all of floor 6, and the interor portion of floor 5, which can only be accessed form floor 6. Team Alpha fought their first real boss, to little fanfare. No treasure, nor large sum of EXP. Just one less Minotaur in the dungeon. In Wizardry, the killing of the monster IS the reward. Team Alpha moves deeper into the dungeon, where an elevator links floor 4 to floor 19. Which is nice, as they only have to hike it to the surface from floor 4, rather than from whatever depths they explore to.
>>475389928Sword because act speed is highly dependent on weapon in 2 and swords are fast.
>>475352694>.You'll want to max the base runes buffs eventually tooSo I should use those over Runic Gleam?
>>475322461They're worth it, it'll take some luck on FOEs and bosses but once you get an ailment off, the NS will have a chance to do a lot of damage. You should also use Black Mist to extend how long the ailment lasts. In 4, Follow-Trace is always active which means it'll also give your Throw skills a second chance of going off and thus another attempt at inflicting the corresponding ailment. You definitely want this skill maxed for both infliction chance and obviously damage. I never max Blade Flurry, just get it high enough for Follow Trace. You can also have luck forged weapons for better ailment chance and sub Arcanist for their passive if you want an even higher chance. You could go without throw skills I guess if you have another party member that's dedicated to ailments like an Arcanist. Either way, NS needs ailments to function right.
>>475398080Not that anon, but yeah. The base runes count as a weakness to trigger Runic Guidance and also boost any other ele damage your party has.
>>475397018Forgot to mention it was 2U if that mattersDoes the protector's weapon matter at all? I went lances in 1U since they seemed to have stat boosts more often which is more useful since I rarely attacked with him.
>>475407432My post was about 2, not 2U. I don't think act speed works in 2U like it does in 2 so either staff or sword is probably fine.
I've only ever played 3. If I want to try a different origins collection game on steam, should I even bother with 1 or should I just get 2 instead? I see that 2 has all of the classes 1 has, with more added.
>>475333101>I am a shitposter and here's proof:I didn't need convincing.
>>475412058I think instead of doing that you should play 4, and then play untold on classic/expertif you are really set on doing this then just play 1 into 2
I'm pretty much a medical irl
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>>475399043>I never max Blade Flurry, just get it high enough for Follow TraceThats what I did back when I played IV too because normal attacks arent that important, but apparently blade flurry also boosts the strength of follow trace, so you want to be sure to max both passives.>>475389928>Also staff or sword for war magus in 2?Staves (until you get the dragon sword super late game) because they all come with stat perks.
>>475436604never ever
>>475420571>Complaining about getting a shitpost reply to your own shitpost reply.Fuck off asshole.
I've played:EOEOU1EOU2EOIVEOVEONexusEMDI've completed:
>>475439187>no uSeriously, you don't need to convince me. Or get mad. Take my advice or don't and stay a plebian with insanely surface-level takes like "they're all at around the same level of difficulty really" or misreading posts and typing "Exactly, none of the games are actually hard."You shouldn't be surprised to get this sort of reaction, in this general with autists that have played the games dozens of times. But hey we welcome all types.
Should I get EO3 HD on sale or just emulate the DS version? Did the HD version rebalance the game at all?
>>475457748>Did the HD version rebalance the game at all?Not particularly but there's an actively developed balance patch mod for it. The DS version got a couple balance patches too but the good one only goes up to but does not include the postgame.
>>475458920How's the HD balance patch? I don't usually like using those, is it good?
>>475457748the hd version is just plain better
I finally got to sort my stuff in order in order to get back to playing Untold 1 again. I'm replaying the Story Mode on standard because unlike many people I actually really like the story mode and its characters. I just really enjoy mapmaking and hearing all the remade music that I remember from playing the original all those years ago. It's super nice.I do have plans to try to get back to 3 again, since I started it last summer but ended up having to leave it alone due to so many other games eating up my time. At this point I should just start it over from the beginning, but I'm definitely going to use the same party layout I had previously. 4 has been on my "summer game" list for like five years in a row now, but since my progress has been so slow with getting through 3 it looks like it's another year when that's not gonna happen. Not to mention that now I'd actually have the HD triple pack for the start of the summer, and I'd really like to play the original 1 again with a new party layout. I'm an unemployed fug and it's still hard to find the time to play it all, and here I am replaying one of the games I've already beaten, just because I like it that much.Such is life, I guess. But I really do love playing Etrian.
>>475399043>>475437637You should max both Blade Flurry and Follow Trace eventually, but it's not something that you need to do until post-game. The main game should be focused on raising all of the relevant passives to half and raising a select few actives up to max.As for weapon forges, just dump everything into Atk.
>>475459115I've not played it, but it seems less of a rebalance and more of an overhaul. See if anything in the docs catches your interest:https://gamebanana.com/mods/451468The only balance changes in HD are that charges now persist forever until used up by an attack, making them compatible with stuff like Snipe and the first hit of chasers, and the introduction of Picnic makes it easier to grind up the unlockable classes
>>475491419 S O V L
>>475491419Look at 'er go
>>475465050me on the left
>>475491419I always wanted a menuless version.
>>475526067the game's rom has been dumped. I'm sure those assets are somewhere on there. I don't have the skill to find them and piece them together, but... idk. Doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to just remove the menu icons, and the boot the game as normal, and then grab it with a capture card, or however this was taken.
>Execution
>>475551837If two sticcs rub together, will it start a fire?
im about to enter postgame in EOV (I assume thats what stratum 6 is at least) on advancedis there anything I absolutely need in order to have a shot of killing the superbosses? I'm trying to mostly do it blind but I'd appreciate knowing vaguely about stuff thats particularly bullshit like primevil core in EO1 that you can only figure out by wasting time and bashing your head against itmy current squad is impact pugilist-blademaster masurao- cannon dragoon in the front and poisoner botanist and dog rover in the back
>>475576046With the party you have the superboss should not be an issue.
>>475576046eo5's superboss is one of the most intuitive to take down on your own in the series, up there with eo4's
>>474945845this game any good? wizardry always seems comfy but the games always feel like shit to me compared to etriam.
what's the verdict bros... are we back or are we gone?https://store.steampowered.com/app/2195790/Class_of_Heroes_2G_Remaster_Edition/
etriam but Digimon
>Playing EOIV>Plan to start farming the medusa sheep, have a dancer with Refresh Walk for it>Fight's going well>Then when I'm more or less going for the finishing blow it uses the stone gaze for the first time and petrifies my entire party at once>Game overUhhh, respect for the sheep if anything, I forgot Dancers don't stop dancing when made into a statue but they do if made into a statue as a set of 5.
>>475592006You have no idea how relieved when that happened to me in EO5 and I didn't game over.
>>475595137I'm glad they made Petrify something different from just another flavor of instant death. Shame it came so late in the series life though
4D Etrian Odyssey
>>475583832>dungeon crawler for pedosprobably
>>475602172probably what?
etriam cunnoli
>>475583192Yeah, it's good. If you're familiar with Wizardry, this is one of the better entries. I think most people would agree that the StarFish developed titles are better than the western titles. It's derivative of AD&D 2e in a lot of ways. So a passing knowledge in that edition of the game will take you pretty far. Otherwise, there's plenty of FAQs and stuff online. The only way to play it, as far as I know, is to emulate it. It's a Japanese title, but it has a decent English translation. If you're asking if Wizardy (as a series) is good, I'd say yeah. Stick with the StarFish games. The games are a lot more difficult than EO. Or, I guess it's more accurate to say 'less forgiving'. But for me, that makes playing (and succeeding) a lot more rewarding. A TPK is soul-crushing though.
I'm sorry innkeeper guy, I will come to sleep at your place at some point again but that soldier guy with his basket full of food is just sitting there all alone and I kind of want to keep him company, I swear it has nothing to do with the fact he doesn't charge me anything for it fully healing my HP and TP,
>>475610663are these other starfish games even translated online? the rest of these empire games seem like they're jp only.
>>475611192Yes. The Wizardry Gaiden games on the SNES and GB have translations, and I think the first empire is also translated. I'm not sure...I'd check romhacking<dot>net for the patches and then work your way backward to your LEGALLY ACQUIRED games to patch.
>>475611627fair enough. they never made any psx games? i know the ps2 wizardry game i tried out was pretty good, just weirdly slow with ff9-tier transitions between animations.
>>475611839In English, there are 10? Wizardry Games.In Japanese, theres an additional 39 games. The Japanese love these games. In the west, we like JRPGs. Kind of funny how that turned out.
>>475611839>>475612793The devs (or some of the devs) who worked on some of the Japanese Wizardry games later went off and made Elminage. So, Elminage is less 'influenced by Wizardry' as it is a... Harvest Moon to Story of Seasons kind of deal.The devs made the same type of game they've always made, but they don't own the copyright to Wizardry or the spell names, so they just called it something different.
>>475612793>>475613272i know it's a big thing over there i'm just asking if that company who you recommended made some
>>475583832i might just be spoiled only playing EO but this looks like shitdo all first person dungeon crawlers look so ugly
is there any reason to think untold 3 is ever getting made?I'm entertaining getting the III HD remake but I'm a philistine and I like the 3d monsters more than sprites
>>475648075It'll be part of the untold release collection, in which they charge $40 per game. And classic mode is going to be $30 DLC
VI, Untold 3, or the heat death of the universe. Which will come first?
>>475648365I generally dislike getting milked (financially at least) but EO is niche enough that I'm cool with them doing whatever to justify keeping the series going in the westi'm out if they ever figure out how to stick a battle pass in one of these tho
Was considering getting EO1HD since it's on sale, but if i have a PC that can handle 3ds emulation, is it better than just playing Untold? Or are they different enough that I should try playing both either way?If it informs you guys' response, I don't really care much for the prospect of Untold's Story Mode, and I have very minor experience with the franchise (played the shit out of the IV demo back in the day, played a bit of PQ1, enjoyed both).
>>475659786>Or are they different enough that I should try playing both either way?Yes, you should play both. Some folks might disagree, but I think they are both different enough to warrant a playthrough for each one.
>>475339919Medics are the biggest damage dealers in EO1.
>>475650076You know, you buy the battle pass, and if you do, then you get a free recolor with each alt skin dlc you buy. It even comes with reusable two-way Ariadne Thread
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/118266231
>>475668851etrian odyssey battle pass:>DLC portraits>DLC dungeons>DLC classes>DLC requests>can't make custom recolors anymore, you just pay for the same portrait except its a different color>game happens to ship with 5 classes and 15 floorsI think i'd self immolate in front of atlas hq hehe
>>475659786If you already played a lot of the IV demo then you should just play IV.
>>475632810every time i see this picture the gun confuses me furthernot a /k/ fag but wtf is going on there
Ive been playing Persona Q for a little bit, i think its ok, but im thinking of dropping it in favor of EO1 on DS is there anything important i should know before going in to it? the imgur link in the OP post mentioned poor balance and bugs. I've played a bit of EO4 as well so im not going in totally blind.
What is your favorite iteration of Landshark?
>>475696315Bandanashark
>>475696424I meant mechanically. Everyone loves Bandana shark.
>>475687968looks like they tried to make a break action revolver that uses elemental FN P90 magazines or something, and then forgot to put a barrel on the end of the cylinder
HEAVENLY AID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WW0GEotp2M&list=PLFABB402B4A9DA2B9&index=14I love this track
>>475689484immunize is OP
>First two battle themes in EOIV: meh>Battle theme for the last stratum: actual menace, sounds like you're about to be assaulted by a bunch of cyberpunk thugs
>>475696315you just posted it. long hair, and yet still manages to invoke tomboy energy.she's perfect.
New Landy is a cutie. She's got that "hell yeah dude" expression and a high power light reflecting forehead.
>>475639884kinda? sometimes it feels like all these wizardry derivatives just have a shared codebase and asset flip whenever they wanna make a new game.
>>475714904New landy is my second favorite landy right next to Banana
>>475713675>long hair, and yet still manages to invoke tomboy energy.I didn't even notice that she had long hair until you mentioned it. Must be the shading. Or the DS screen obscuring it.
>>475696315Anyone else notice how after EO3 the Landsknecht archetype basically got hard shifted from Gladiator to being Buccaneer?
>>475723289but they don't even have a gun
>>475723464>but they don't even have a gunBuccaneer has a sword. But I mean like they went from "melee allrounder" to "chase/link/chain" the character.
>>475723925my bucc had a gun
>>475714904Has anyone made mods for the DS versions that add in the HD version portraits?
>>475723289IV Land feels like a hybrid to me. Half the tree is still regular unga bunga attacks. Fencer is all-in on chases, but strikes me as a hybrid of Bucc/Surv than a member of the Land archetype.
>>475727856Fencer has the Chaser half of Landys skills, Masurao has the unga bunga half of Landys skills
When would I ever run an Elemancer over an Omnimancer? Like if my team comp consits of a Fencer, Rover, and Dragoon and I need a form of physical damage besides piercing?
>>475735376>When would I ever run an Elemancer over an Omnimancer?Whoops, meant Omnimancer over Elemancer
So are the EO guild card image maker websites just all dead?
https://skeb.jp/@body_ma_ginga/works/24
>>475689484It's probably best to go back and beat EO4 first unless you really want to play 1. Untold on Classic is much better balanced but it's also one of the hardest EO games if you play on expert. And yeah immunize is broken as fuck in EO1, it'll carry you. As long as you have a medic and protector you should be fine.
>>475735376>>475735617Ominmancer comes with life siphon which means more chain blast, and a source of petrifaction as always good too. With spread chant you also get a pretty good shot at landing arm bind but thats not really a big deal.However the most important difference between them are the reserve magic and common magic passives. Common magic is a HUGE 1.5 multiplier but you can only get it if you have a second warlock, a broker necro, or dance oracle shaman on your team (which most teams don't). Reserve magic on the other had is really easy to achieve, and at 1.25 is still pretty big enough to provide a larger boost to damage than magic attack up combined with the Int bonus that elemancer gets. This means that if your team can't trigger common magic, elemancer will not only come with the bonus utility effects, but also do more damage.
How are you supposed to survive root cyclone? Anything besides CPR?
>>475743903Yeah bravery's gift can't quite handle that one, so use parry to protect slots 1 and 2 (don't count on it to protect slot 3). Back row should guard or use razor dodge or light formula if they have it.
Is Blizzard King in EOU supposed to just be a super long fight? I feel like I lack the damage output to take him out, and he always eventually gets some lucky melee hits in that kills my momentum and makes me wipe. Same guy as >>475185734
>>475748973it just sucks, you need a troubadour to wipe his shit
>>475735376Some other considerations are that Omnimancer can benefit from physical (de)buffs from Masurao and Rover and just has a more interesting kit, which is what's most important>>475748973Not that I remember. Are you bringing Metopon to remove the Cold Regen buff?
>>475750487I can only get him down to half before I inevitably wipe so I haven't even gotten to his regen phase yet. He'll just triple strike and get through parry and kill someone every time. I don't have the buffs/debuffs to deal with it because of my party comp.I probably could keep trying until I get lucky enough with parry but at that point I'm just bashing my head against a wall.
Best protector skills to focus on in EOU2 classic?
>>475752191In that case, maybe come back later. Have you done Storm Emperor yet? That might be an easier fight at this point
>>475754069I haven't, would doing that increase the level cap? Most of my party is at the level 70 cap already.
I hope there's an actual Landsknecht class in Next Stage lol lmao
>>475714904Chipmunk teeth
>>475754384Yeah, each of the three dragons increases your level cap by 10.
I took a long break after finish Etrian Odyssey 2, that game was really fucking fun and now the only games I have yet to beat are 3 and Nexus but I keep bouncing off 3 cus my autism tells me to do every ending for the sake of a dumb narrative should I keep trying with 3 or go to Nexus at this point?Also when next stage?
ded
>eo1>they actively avoid the party being able to use magic>they chose a medic who uses modern medicine instead of a white magic>they used an alchemist who's implied by name and gauntlets to use chemistry, not spells.>but hexer can cast curses because ???
>>475788786something something sufficiently advanced
>>475752191if you're only dying to triple strike and nothing else consider bash damage reduction
>>475786717for all the fan art, you don't see nearly enough of all of the monsters they designed for this series.
>>475805489everyone knows that when it comes to fan art cute girls > monsters every time
>>475805489 maybe we would get more monster fanart if there were more monster lolis
>>475774268I assume you've done IV and V, then?Nexus is sort of the victory lap for the series. next stage never ever. ever ever.
>>475817565I did, I started with 4 and 5 ended up being my favorite of the games so far and if Next Stage actually exists and doesn't have races i'll be insanely dissapointed.I loved the not-harvins and necro is just my favorite hexer variant ever.
>>475817774V is also my favorite. Although, It would have been nice to get at least one portrait of each race in all of the other classes. Those portraits could even be like the DLC ones, where you can't edit them. Just give me potat dragoon.
>>475818230Yeah that part is a bit of a shame, going back to my original question though do you think I should keep trying with 3 or just go to Nexus?
>>475818553I haven't played 3 (yet). So I don't know. Although I'd say that if you keep bouncing off of a series that you want to play, because of the title... play a different title. If you want to play it, play Nexus. And then you can always come back to 3.
>>475774268With NG+ you can do the other two endings very quickly. Basically everything carries over so you just have to walk from one end of the labyrinth to the other
>>475788786Hypnotism?
>>475820315So I won't have to re-do the quests or sailing map?
>>475774268You should finish 3 first, just pick a side, it's not that big of a deal.
https://exhentai.org/g/2903312/5c09404fd4/
>>475754069>keep struggling with storm emperor a lot>finally get a decent attempt going but I can't out-heal his damage since I'm a retard who didn't put enough points into salve since HP never got high enough in the main game for me to want to invest in it more>only protector and dark hunter left alive>only just BARELY win by spamming parry and viper while those two chug every amrita I have for dear lifeI was so scared I was going to have to run out, thank god for me overstocking before the fight.
>>475855274Congratulations anon.
Any plans to bring EOs other than 1-3 to the Switch?
>>475864181Aren't they plenty much all-hands-on-deck for Project Re Fantasy? You'd hope they'd be done by now seeing as how portraits for it were in a 2018 game.
>>475865825>Project Re FantasyWhat is that, desu?
>>475865970Er right, they rebranded it as Metaphor ReFantazio. I think it's Atlas's next attempt at Not!Persona that's been in development hell since 2018 or so. Frankly I am none too interested in it, but I am hoping it frees up the company once its released.
>>475865825That's a different studio, it's more likely that the EO team is doing some work on Vengeance since it's directed by Komori.
>>475864181They probably plan to but they've sorta shot themselves in the foot thanks to their greedy pricing of the first trilogy>the 3d games require more touch ups thanks to enemy models (plus 4's overworld and the voice samples found in the U's, 5, and nexus)>have 5 mainline games to sell you meaning its not a 50/50 split (7 games if they add in the two MD games but that would require a localization of EMD2)>sold HD ds games for 40 a piece which was already more than their original price in most cases, meaning the HD 3ds games are going to be even more?>if they charge more for them in a collection the price will be bordering a hundred>if they charge less it'll make the first collection look bad>if they charge the same then the average retard wonders why a 2d game costs the same as a 3d game and it makes one or both collections look bad depending on the retard in questionIt's a messy situation created by a greedy company that regularly has its greed rewarded. There's no good outcome here.
>The first time it enters step 3, the elemental move it uses is randomWell fuck you too game
>>475876652Just equip 2 other characters with an elemental wall grimoire so that you can cast all three on that one turn. Or just rely on the CPR safety net.
In terms of ease of development, first-person dungeon crawlers are one of the easiest genres, after arcade shooters and platformers.In the RPG genre tree, a wizardry clone is easier than a Final Fantasy clone. So, where's the slew of indie DRPGs for me to play? Actually, let's go by the 'give a man a fish, teach a man to fish' metaphor. Someone make a DRPG Maker.
>>475879314>In the RPG genre tree, a wizardry clone is easier than a Final Fantasy clone.It's harder for a Wizardry clone to stand out than for an FF clone. From a consumer standpoint, it's easier to immediately tell apart an overhead RPG because I can immediately notice the difference in sprites and art style. Well from a marketing standpoint, it's way harder to push a DRPG product because often there isn't a lot visually going on. Heck some days I think one of the reasons EO is one of the better selling DRPGs is simply because it's one of the more pleasant looking series.From the gameplay side, a poorly designed Wizardry clone really makes it's flaws show when you play it.
>>475879314>Someone make a DRPG Maker.Unless you really need the actual dungeon exploration outside of battle to be in first person with 3D graphics, then normal RPG maker can already make DRPGs.
>>475883716My original reply to this got an >Error: Comment to LongSo I'll just say, Exe-Creates games all look the same. They look like RPG Maker games, but are developed in Unity. Which is the strangest choice for a company to do. RPG Maker games are known for their mediocrity, with the few diamonds in the rough being notable exceptions. So, it's crazy how they would purposefully make their RPGs look like that. Point being, I think the opposite of>From a consumer standpoint, it's easier to immediately tell apart an overhead RPG because I can immediately notice the difference in sprites and art styleis true. But it doesn't matter because First Person Dungeon Crawlers aren't pumped out like home-brewed indie JRPGs.
How hard is it to get through EO3 without using a Monk?Also, is Yggdroid worth using?
>>475891919Yes.No but robots are cool so you can make them work if you want.
>>475892197What classes work well with yggdroid?I was also considering using a farmer for added difficulty but I probably shouldn't use one if I'm already gimping myself a bit using yggdroid.
>>475892427For full UNGA Ygg/Glad work together nicely and for full defense Yggs make amazing Hoplites, problem there is you're basically just playing a hoplite and not a Ygg.Ygg/Damage focused Monk is also a fun combo, keep in mind for all of these any class is better main wise, the price for android sex is steep.
>>475891919yggs are good but you have to treat them like a subclass and mostly just use their passives and then focus on their subclass to function. They do have their fair share of issues too though.
>>475883716>I think one of the reasons EO is one of the better selling DRPGs is simply because it's one of the more pleasant looking seriesthat, and it's just more cohesive in general. the last wizardry game i was interested in was tales of the forsaken land, because anything else from the land of the rising sun looks rough as fuck. art with no cohesion, not a whole lot of portraits to choose from, barely any music. the presentation is not just absent, it's sometimes just bad with the assumption seemingly being that because the original game used to be a totally silent wireframe with menus attached that you can just keep making that but worse, because at least the wireframes i can just imagine i'm walking through a crypt or cave but for wizardry bunshin gaiden no zetsu i've got stock art plastered on 3d walls and monsters that look like a totally different style from the main party. just sucks bro>>475891919not very, you can get through with a prince/princess instead but they're worse healers statwise.yggdroid isn't worth using but there's some funny stuff you can do with them. an appropriately leveled yggdroid can kill anemone solo (i think) because yggdroids can't be bound by enemies.
>>475892782>>475892903>>475893018I assume a Hop/Prince/Ygg(Monk fist) front rowZodiac/??? back row party would be fine? Don't know who else to add to the back row, I didn't like using Bucc last time I played, and isn't Arbalist not as strong in the back? Might honestly just use farmer as the last party member to see how hard it makes it.
>>475891919Resident Yggfag here.Yes, Yggdroids are really fucking good if you know how to use them. You can easily beat postgame with a team of only Yggdroids.Yggs are a very good class that's often misunderstood because they work different from the other classes. Unlike other classes that use subclassing to complement their main class, Yggs' main class complements their subclass.They have the highest HP, highest STR and 2nd highest VIT; while their TEC and AGI is subpar, their LUC is downright terrible and their TP is stuck at 60.>Strengths and ToolkitTheir main gimmick is binding themselves to passively regenerate TP through Sleep Mode, which heals up to 10TP per bind every turn. This is probably the least impressive part about Yggs and it's mostly just so you don't have to worry about carrying Amritas with you.The strength of the Ygg lies on their fantastic passives and stats.Yggs are naturally immune to binds that don't come from their own skills, add to that Virus Scanner 10 (50% ailment resistance) and Yggs are extremely hard to lock down.Infravision compensates for their subpar AGI by giving them 40% increase to evasion and hit rate at night, making them bulky classes that can also dodge a lot of attacks.Overheat is an insane passive damage buff and the HP cost isn't nearly as taxing as it seems as long as you have a Hoplite or anyone on healing duty.Their bots are also surprisingly useful if you're not using the 6th slot in your party. They chase your party's elemental attacks with TEC elemental damage. The bots have the Ygg's stats, so their TEC isn't very high, so to compensate they gave them very high damage numbers (170% TEC damage at level 10) so if you give your Ygg TEC equipment and books the damage can start getting higher.Lastly, HP Cannon. It's not very good HOWEVER, it's very funny to use against the true final boss.
>>475891919>>475894065 >Subclassing Options>Ygg/GladHighest STR in the game and Infravision makes Blade Rave consistent as all hell and Nine Smashes into an actually reliable option. Also, Overheat > Berserker Vow > Charge > Blade Rave is very funny.>Ygg/HopArguably the best Hop in the game. Highest HP, 2nd highest VIT, immunity to binds, 50% resistance to all ailments with Virus Scanner and 40% increase to evasion with Infravision makes them an incredibly durable machine. >Ygg/MonkOne of the best Fist Monks in the game. Having the highest STR means the world with how Fist damage calculation works. But, most importantly, Monks have Ascetic Deeds, at level 10 heals you for 90HP everytime you use a skill, which means that Overheat 9 is a free 40% dmaage buff and Overheat 10 goes from costing 127HP to a measly 37HP for a 50% damage buff.>Ygg/Bucc2nd best Swashbuckling user. Look, you can't beat a Shogun/Bucc in terms of Swashbuckling, but you're going Deep City route so this is your next best option if you want a swashbuckler with you.Data Mining increases crit chance by 10% and makes crits deal 190% damage. So Data Mining, Overheat, Lady Luck and Crit accesories makes them actually hit pretty hard with Swashbuckling.Also, if you want to summon bots, this is your best way to proc chases while also dealing good damage (Of course, assuming you don't have Shogun unlocked).One piece of warning though, Overheat activates every time Swashbuckling procs, so leave it at level 6 if you don't have someone to babysit them.
>>475891919>>475894196>Meh and Bad Subclassing Options>Ygg/PrincessI had an Y/P in my party. It works, but I only had her because I wanted a full Yggdroid party. If you want a full Ygg party it definitely works, there's nothing wrong with it, you have a bulky Princess that's very hard to lock down. But if you're not doing that, just get a regular Princess.>Ygg/ZodI also had this in my party. This one doesn't work at all. I literally only had her because I wanted someone to summon bots, and for the endgame she was my HP Cannon user.>Ygg/ArbYggs have the highest STR and Overheat. However, Front Mortar is not very sustainable (16 TP with 2 binds) and Double Action is pretty much not viable.It can still work, but without Charge, Front Mortar really loses a lot of it's appeal.You could however have a Snipe/Sharpshooter Y/A in a disable focused party and it could work as well.>Ygg/Ninja, Ygg/WildlingYggs do not have the TEC or LUC to try to inflict ailments or binds.>Ygg/Farmerlmao>Ygg/ShogunUnless you're modding your game or playing a second playthrough you're not having this one in your party, so I put it in the Meh category.Magatoki works well since you're already going to be exploring mostly at night thanks to Infravision and Daifuhensha makes Yggs stronger and bulkier, and thanks to Infravision they will be able to work as a pseudo dodge tank as well.They're also a pretty bulky Warrior Might user.The biggest problem is that Magatoki and Daifuhensha both use different body parts, so TP recovery becomes an issue.Also, fun fact. Bloody Lance increases the damage of HP Cannon. You're never going to use that unless you're going for that one strategy against the true final boss, but it's funny that the combination of Armoroad's and Deep City's forces can create one of the strongest countermeasures against the Deep Ones.
>>475893968>>475894065>>475894196>>475894330thanks for the QRD on the yggdranoffs. also there's mods to unlock ygg/shogun from the start on EO3 HD right?
>>475894832>also there's mods to unlock ygg/shogun from the start on EO3 HD rightThere is one yeah. I can't vouch for what version of the game it still supports, but I used it with my day 0 no denuvo version to get both.
>>475895121Found it on gamebanana https://gamebanana.com/mods/448656Says it was only tested with the no denuvo version. Did the patches for the game fix any major bugs or was it just for patching denuvo back in because fatlus is retarded?
>>4758956082 had a softlock bug patched, but I can't remember anything in 3 that was as bad or needed fixing.
>>475895728NotedIs post-game stuff viable with a farmer in the party? I assume the best way to focus on making farmers useful is by focusing on ailments.
>Reach Hall of Darkness F2>"Stupid Atlus, what is trial and error warping bullcrap with the dark rooms and some massive room with only gourd FOEs in it?">Actually check the mapI'm very dumb. Also, is it ever revealed who is throwing fancy dinners for your party inside that dungeon?
>>475897894it's implied that the person behind all the dinners is joe from tharsis
>>475894196>Arguably the best Hop in the gameI'm gonna be annoying and argue this - I find it incredibly difficult to believe it's better than Hoplite/Ninja, not only because you get two tanks that can cover both rows OR bodyguard two people (say, 2 fragile front liners using berserker vow), but you also get to do cheesy stuff like Otori + Sarutobi. If you factor in elemental walls and proccing dodges, the optimal hoplite doesn't even care about stats a lot of the time. Maybe it depends how much you value bind/ailment resistance, but I never had problems.Ninja as a subclass is pretty stupid overall though. A different subclass would have to more than double the main class's effectiveness to be a better option. Obviously wildlings are exempt. I think most of the time, the only reason you wouldn't pick a ninja subclass is because you've already used up the 6th slot. Opportunity costs and all that.
>>475903528Ninja+(Class) or (Class)+Ninja is a lot of good classes.
Fuck the Royalant, I'm turning the game down to Picnic to beat this motherfucker
>>475916268honestly based, it's usually not a fun fight
>>475916268Okay my Landy was doing almost 2k damage with a level 1 Crush that was pretty funny
>>475916268>Filtered by RoyalantThe only point in the main story you're allowed to get filtered by is the 4th stratum boss
>>475916268That bitch is not fun but she's way too easy for you to be dying to her like this, you will shit yourself against the later bosses.
Sometimes I feel like a fool for not liking 3 that much. Maybe it got too hyped up for me. I played 1 and 2 first. Was very excited seeing the improvements in 3 at first, and quite liked the look of the world and story. Excited about all new classes. But just wasn't finding the gameplay satisfying, and subclassing wasn't that interesting. I like 4 though. Maybe my builds were shit.
>>475916268I beat her first try, underleveled, no items, and accidentally entered her room, how the fuck are you having trouble
>>475946937It's fine anon I don't like 3 that much either, I'm insane though and 2 (original) is my second favourite.
>>475916268should have gave your princess regal radiance
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>>475946937You can like what you want but I like 3 much more than the first two (they're still good though). Skill tree designs were much more interesting, limit system was far better than the systems 1/2 had, the introduction of forging allowed for more ways to build each character, and sub-classing allows for so much more flexibility in party creating. Then you have things like getting exp from quests and going back to getting exp from FOEs after 2. I also personally loved the sea map though I do wish you could do the quests with your full party. I also greatly love 4 and it's one of my favorites in the series as well.
>>475946937This is me with V
>>475953485>I also personally loved the sea map though I do wish you could do the quests with your full partyI preffer it that way. EO3 made me not be autistic about my team having different levels and exp points
>>475946937Nothing wrong with that. 3 is definitely overhyped, especially here.All of the 3DS games were superior.
>>475946937I think 3 really could use an Untold remake. That said, who'd be the party?
>>475977758It usually gets regarded as the best DS game but in terms of the whole series, posts I see often vary. So no, I would say it gets "overhyped" whatever that means.>>475980548A normal classic mode only remake would be fine but it doesn't need and story mode or grimoire stuff from the Untolds. I'd rather they just make 6 already instead of more remakes though.
>>4759805483 had the chance to be the culmination of the Untold series. Bringing the two previous parties to the game, each party representing one side of the conflict, plus one new OC guy to give Arianna's party her 5th team member.Also, I can see both Highlander and Gunner fitting in the EOU3 setting, considering we never had a strong spear and gun class in the original game.
>>475894065Yggfag, would a party built around red bot chases work well? Like having a ygg/monk spam breakfire fists while an arbalist spams fire barrage and a zodiac spams fire star?
>>475981137>A normal classic mode only remake would be fine but it doesn't need and story mode or grimoire stuff from the Untolds. Yeah that's fair, whenever I play Untold it's always Classic mode. But I meant like, reworking some of the worse classes like Buccaneer Wildling, and Ninja to be well, less bad. Part of me wants Yggdroid and Shogun to be available earlier, but narratively it makes no sense.>I'd rather they just make 6 already instead of more remakes though.Alright fair, I just hope 6 is fairly ambitious. I felt like 3 was the most ambitious game and then afterwards they started playing it more safe.
>>4759821154 had an entire overworld and 5 was going to have a lot but they ran out of time/budget and that game is STILL my favourite one, they didn't really play it safe at all after 3, I just really hope they keep the race/second name stuff from 5 going forward instead of throwing it out because the races lead to greater customisation in combination with the portrait editing and the second name system made the classes really shine even if the early game felt like you had less because of it.
>>475982115I wouldn't say any of those classes are "bad" but I wouldn't complain if they got improvements (and obviously they would get new stuff in a remake). Ninja got some nice new things in Nexus already.I want another vehicle map in 6 like the ship in 3 or the airship in 4.
>>475980548Instead of that just put everything past 3 on the Switch please.
In EO3 I got stuck at the beginning of B24 in the room with the 3 red FOEs that charge at you.
>>475984210Put up your shields, friend!-Hoplite gang!
>>474340861I'm very glad this general is still alive. First place I've ever been to on 4chan.Next stage soon, brothers
>>475982942I get what you mean. And mechanically, 5 is my favorite too. If I want something to cone back, it's how they handled "pet classes" like Necromancer, pillboxers, and Rover Though I still prefer Survivalist because I like thr utility. Races, I am mixed on. It seemed like a cool idea, but I didn't like how early game all my Earthlains had effectively the same stats. And I hated how there was no portraits for races with non-deafult classes. Well it realistically isn't feasible, of races were to return, I'd like for them to give classes more skills to fit in with other races. Like I saw the Warlock had this cool energy sword in his portrait and I was extremely dissapointed his melee option was effectively limited to one skill on the Elemancer tree, and there was no "INT build" on Fencer persay.
>>475981836Yeah, that was pretty much my party.Summon Red Bot, spam Breakfire Fist with Ygg/Monk, Swashbuckling with Ygg/Bucc with fire forges and Fire Star with Ygg/Zod.The rest of my party was Ygg/Princess and Ygg/Hop.
>>475946937it took me until the hd remake and trying princess + bucc instead of playing it like final fantasy in first person (like i did with eo1) that it clicked for me. the unconventional strategies in eo3 are pretty sick if you really look at like a skill calculator but the game really discourages that kind of experimentation when you lose so many levels and xp for swapping stuff around.you could always just do sea quests to level up but that's not super fun just grinding out numbers so you get skill points to properly setup classes.
>>475990458Noted, looking through other skills I came up with a really gimmicky team comp that I might go withHop/Prince/Ygg(fist monk)Arbalist(Zodiac)/Farmer(Ninja)Main gimmick is red bot chases but also Lullaby + Fire forge Snipe spam.Though I'd have to be careful to make sure Yggdroid doesn't wake up sleeping enemies with its attacks
etriam but Kinnikuman
etrian but with sex
>>476025167sexo*
>>476010092>breakfire fist -3 speed at all levels>lullaby 0 speed at all levels >also farmers faster than yggdroidswelp there goes my gimmicky team idea, maybe I could salvage it if I load up the yggdroid with speed-increasing equipment and give heavy weapons to the farmer?
Ok I asked earlier with ailment classes, but its been a week or so. So what's the best bow class?
>>4760316432U Surv > Hawk Rover > Sniper > 1 Surv > Hound Rover > Nexus Surv > 1U Surv > 2 Surv
>>476031643bnnuy sexo
>>476031643sniper is cool. I have not used the others.
>>476025167What are you talking about anon? Etrian already has sex in it.
>>476039613what cutscene is all of the information coming from? Was it one of the untolds?
>>475977758>All of the 3DS games were superior.Tasty bait but I'm on a diet... gonna assume you just said "I have shit taste" and move on with my life
I'm playing EOIV and am just about done with the 1st stratum, or whatever they're supposed to be called in this game. Is there anything worth getting from the roving ships on the overworld that ask you for rare food items in exhange for items worth actually "farming" for? In the course of playing I've already gotten the ring that gives you +1 all stats and the equipment for your ship that makes you find more rare vegetables. Is there anything else to get from these NPCs?
>>476043427>>*All of the 3DS games but Untold 1 were superiorFixed it
>>476045606I think thats it for the first land, each of the two guilds has one unique item per land and then after that they just give you a more generic item if you keep repeating the trades. I don't remember for sure though, however you wont lock yourself out of anything if you go to the next land. They'll still show up in the first land as well as the second, so you can still do the first land trades if you want.
>>476024003Based
Yuzo is a fucking beasthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEsgRhIhHf8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GtGLNPJqrA
>>476074603>no Hoist the Sword with Pride in the Heartsuch bad taste
>>476057282I think they occasionally have 2 items in some lands, though maybe that's for later on when you can both do a trade and save them from monsters for seperate rewards. I'm not sure how it worksEither way once you get the accessory you're good since the ship parts don't matter that much.
>>4759474692 is great. It has some problems but I like it a lot. I actually haven't played 2 Untold yet, looking forward to it.>>475953485I liked pretty much every thing you listed. The game is an improvement to 1 and 2 but I ended up feeling a bit underpowered in an unfun way then ended up feeling forced into certain strategies. Still like the game though. Could literally be a skill issue on my part.>>475955415>>475977758Haven't started V yet but I'm looking forward to it.>>475980548I'd be very excited to play it if it did. If it doesn't I think I may revisit 3 again some time down the line to see if my feelings change. Though I hope they keep subclassing and just rebalance it instead of adding grimoires.>>475995920I try avoiding looking at skill calculators/online strategies just because I prefer it that way. I actually used a Princess and Bucc. Eventually looked at what people were saying online and it felt like everyone was suggesting the same strategies and saying certain classes/skills were worthless. I'm sure it could just the sort of people who super min/maxers (I'm not that sort of person but I respect it). Like I said, ultimately this could be a skill issue.
>>476091456I wish it was summer already. I want it to be 90° already
eo6 when? did origins' failed to convince atlus ?
>>476057282I'm a sucker for airships. Even though I kind of hate that three of your classes are locked by progress in IV, I still really like the game... almost exclusively because of airships, and the extra axis mapping.
>>476103114After SMTVV. Annoucment in the Direct that usually comes like the week before TGS. Probably. Hopefully.
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>>476115831sleep tight
>>476106016I know right? IDK why people here are always seem to be shitting on the airship maps. I can understand people liking the sea maps more, but these were still great too. The 3 dimensional movement was cool, but my favorite part was what they did with the dragons.
>>476119561remove fang
I want 6 to have more vertical movement like the Shrines in Nexus. In addition to raised tiles, I want lowered ones as well, sort of like how the airship maps in 4 had three levels. You could have lowered underwater tiles and thus add diving to the game. Underwater would basically be very similar to damage tiles but instead of damage each step, you'd have a certain amount of turns/steps before the party runs of oxygen and KOs. This could give way to new labyrinth skills and items that give you more turns of oxygen. With lowered tiles you could also start having tunnels and stuff like that.
>>476125619>Underwater would basically be very similar to damage tiles but instead of damage each step, you'd have a certain amount of turns/steps before the party runs of oxygen and KOsEO4 had a similar mechanic at the very start where you can only step in the main room for 11? steps before running out automatically. Which seems more in line with what EO would do with that kind of mechanic
>>476126686There was that small poison maze that had a limited number of steps before you'd pass out, yeah. Sort of like that but this would be turns of oxygen while in underwater tiles and it would display how many turns you have left. It would be more of a recurring gimmick that shows up more often like how normal damage tiles show up in more than one stratum.
>>476125619>Underwater would basically be very similar to damage tiles but instead of damage each step, you'd have a certain amount of turns/steps before the party runs of oxygen and KOsUnchained Blades had that mechanic but that game... was not very good, to put it mildly.
>>476127681Galleria as well
I think tiles that damage, or have a fixed length that you can pass through them (like underwater tiles) could work if you could come back to them with an ability that nullifies the damage. So, for water tiles, it's a gamble early on whether you'll get lost in the labyrinth underwater and run out of air... but with the payoff being gear that's much better than anything else in that stage of the game.But then you gain a skill, or an item that allows you to traverse water tiles indefinitely. So going back to the early area gives you something that, at that point in the game, is just okay.Or it could be like the locked chests in Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, where you come back to them and they're filled with shit.'here's your herb for remembering this locked door was here, fuck-face.'
>>476127681Never played the game but I'm sure the reason it's not good is because of many other reasons and not solely due to glorified damage tiles. I just thought that swimming/diving would be one way to utilize lowered tiles, of course not all of them would be underwater. Instead of damage each step, it's just all the damage at once after a certain number of steps.
>>476127681Besides Etriam, Grimrock, Might n Magic, and a few Touhou games. What are good blobbers?No Wizardry or SMT. And no Labrynth of Refrain, I didn't like that there was a party size of 40 yet only 5 classes.
If I wanted to use a ailment-inflicting farmer, which sub would be the best other than wildling? I assume petrification/instant death doesn't work against bosses so I don't really want to go Ninja and focus on that.
>>476131807It gets mentioned everytime, but Potato Flowers in Full Bloom is a good one
>>476133464If Wildling is off the table then Ninja is the only real other ailment choice besides choosing Bucc for the head bind and maybe some memes with chases while holding one of those gimmick weapons with 1 attack and 3 ailment values.
>>476134158What about Gladiator for inflicting confusion or monk for inflicting paralyze?
>>476131807As a fan, I would be remiss in not mentioning the Madou Monogatari series. Game Gear had the full trilogy ported to it (I,II,III not ARS).You play as a 6 year old climbing a tower with wacky characters and wacky monsters to lift the tone of the game from the fact that you are a SIX YEAR OLD, fighting for your life in a dungeon. But, you know. They're "illusion monsters", that seem to cause very real damage.Speaking of, you don't have any numerical way to view your stats. You get a face of Puyo Puyo girl, and how worn she looks determines how hurt she is. Similarly there is something going on for Magic, but it's slightly different between ports.The ambiguity of how much health you have really added to the drama to me, and from a role-playing sense, makes sense. But... You know... obfuscating such important information from the player is sort of hard to defend, even as a fan.It's Wizardry-esque, so from your spoiler, you may not like it.Also... It's hard! In an old-school brutalist kind of way. A, save every 5 steps, kind of way. A... grind out another level, just in case, before moving on to the next floor... kind of way.But I like it. As far as ports... I think I like Genesis over PC-Engine CD over Game Gear... But by small margins. They're all pretty good. OG Computer games are MSX and PC-98. I wouldn't even know where to begin to try to play the originals.
>>476133464I used a Farmer/Gladiator in my 3HD run and it's pretty good. I gave her a club for access to the panic and head bind attacks. I also fully stun forged it and gave her max stun attack which gave her normal attacks a high stun rate. You need to take some steps to increase act speed for stun attack though (which I did). I had a Princess with Knighthood and a Ninja with suikyou which let me knighthood the panic attack and then spread it to all enemies in the same turn before anything could act. Very good AOE panic combo. The gladiator sub also gives wolf howl which synergizes well with the panic and sleep the farmer should be inflicting. Then to top it all off, I had an arbalist with snipe/sharpshoot to capitalize on the ailments.
>>476025167etrian butt sex
>>476137094Yeah, I was looking at Gladiator and that seemed like the best choice. How well do status effects work on bosses in 3 anyway? I noticed the wiki lists some bosses aren't immune to instant death.
>>476140103It's going to take some RNG to land one and then some more RNG to have it last long enough but they're good when both of these go your way. Panic in particular is one of the best ailments in the series. There were multiple late game bosses in my 3HD run where I landed a clutch panic when the boss was at about 50% health and they lasted long enough for me to burst down the remaining 50%.As for insta-death, a tiger-focused wildling can and will delete bosses/FOEs with insta-death as long as they're not completely immune. I had a tiger wildling in this run and sometimes would accidentally insta-kill a boss without meaning to because I usually summoned the tiger early on as a tank. I insta-killed the ant queen this way despite being unprepared/under-leveled and Kraken as well. Needless to say, a tiger will do a good job on random encounters as well.
>>476141742Good to hear it's viable then. My party will probably be:Hop/Prince(Heal Monk)/Ygg(Fist Monk)Arbalist(Zodiac)/Farmer(Gladiator)Hop/Prince/Arbalist/Farmer will all be the young kid-looking portraits and the Ygg will be the new HD one, headcanon will be it's a bunch of dumb kids that found a cool big robot and decided to go into the dungeon with it.I worry my damage output might be too low with this build though since I'll be relying on only Ygg and Arbalist for damage.Though I should probably just stop autistically planning like this and instead just play the fucking game and see if the build works out.
>>476143187I used arb/zodi with a focus on etheric charged snipes, sharpshoots, and barrages and it'll do good damage. Your party is going to have a hard time with damage until sub classing though. Arbalist is strong but they'll be carrying everyone, don't expect the farmer/gladiator to do any damage. I've only ever used a defensive ygg once so I don't know how well they can do when fully focused on offense but yeah, you're going to need them to do some good damage.
>>476143187I wouldn't recommend you modding the game to have an Ygg from the very beginning because they're very not good at all without a subclass.
>>476144250Yeah, if the party seems to not work out at all early-game then I might just swap farmer for zodiac and focus fully on red bot chases.>>476146104I really don't like replacing/retiring characters though, I like sticking with a party from the start. I guess I could run a gladiator for the early game then retire them once I unlock yggdroid.
>>476146649>Yeah, if the party seems to not work out at all early-game then I might just swap farmer for zodiac and focus fully on red bot chases.Ygg Bots, just like every chaser in the series, gets better if you max the skill and have more ways to proc it (which is why a swashbuckler is their best friend). If you're going for Punch Ygg after unlocking subclasses you won't be able to get both Red Bot and Breakfire Fist effectively.You need to be level 56 (52 if you retire at 30) to get all core Punch skills (Sleep Mode 10, Rocket Headbutt 1, Rocket Jump 1, Fist Mastery 10, Kikouken 1 (you use it as a basic attack to not get fucked by Overheat), Breakfire Fist 10, Ascetic Deeds 10) plus 20 more levels to get Infravision 10 and Virus Scanner 10 to compensate for Ygg's below average AGI and LUC. That's already level 76.And the other problem, if you're using Punch Ygg you're not going to use weapons and need as many STR equipment as possible. Meanwhile, Bots really need your Ygg to equip Tomes, TEC equipments and use TEC stat books to make your Bot deal considerable damage.>I really don't like replacing/retiring characters though, I like sticking with a party from the start. >I guess I could run a gladiator for the early game then retire them once I unlock yggdroid.You can just run a Glad and once you unlock Yggs just set the game to Picnic and grind Sea Quests for a bit.
>>476149643Might be best to give up the red bot slot then to a class who could use it more effectively, maybe I could slap ninja on the hop or prince for better def/buffs. Or give the farmer wildling for even better status spam.
Does the Scylla exploit still work in 3HD?
>Early weapons are easy to forge but have few slots>Lategame weapons have a lot of slots but require grinding endgame bosses for dropsPlease just take my money, I don't want to fight those bosses four times or more, it's not worth +10% damage.
>>476153640Yes
>>476153640All exploits and RNG manipulation still work because everything under the hood is identical, except for situations where numbers were changed, which I think happened on Ninja's death infliction and might impact something somewhere? Unsure on that, but there weren't many numerical changes that practically affect you if you're doing RNG abuse like this, you just need to reboot the game each time. You can still farm experience with Penguin and Scylla just fine.
>>476140103bosses have high instant death resistance and then on top of that a second hidden instant death/petrify resistance that makes a second chance to resist. So usually it's very difficulty to land. Wildling has the advantage of having some additional inflict chance that ignores the enemy's resistance but still has to pass the second check like normal.
Spoilers for U2 story mode in case anyone cares:So surprise surprise, the ritual requires a sacrifice, but its so hard for me to take this seriously. For one because I've seen this kind of development a million times before and I'm sick of it, but more importantly, every time Ive seen it before the "sacrifice" was always greater than this. Like no one is even fucking dying. MC just has to hang out in a boring temple for 100 years and get cool super powers that he never asked for. As a result, Arianna just comes off as being melodramatic whenever she laments about forcing all this on the Fafnir, and any hope of those scenes having any sort of emotional impact is just lost.I mean I get it, just because its not murder doesn't mean it's okay to force this on someone, and the characters don't have the same perspective as I do, to know that in comparison to other fictional characters in other universes they're actually getting a pretty good deal. So it makes sense that they would all react this way. Although I can't help but wonder if I'm misunderstanding something, at one point you get the option of saying "You'll come visit me right?" and then they get mad at me for joking around and not taking it seriously. But like, can they not still come and visit? Obviously they won't be able to talk face to face, but I don't see why they wouldn't be able to talk in the same manner as they were with the current black guardian. So he And when theyre not visiting he'll even have something to do; he can work on restoring the temple and clearing out the monsters after Violetta fucked things up last time. Its not the best life, but it could be worse. It honestly doesn't sound that much worse than the life of a normal temple guardian.Anyway I haven't finished the story yet, but so far I'm disappointed. I had heard that 2U's story was decent, but so far 1U's was better. Also Ricky>Arianna. Maybe the Overlord will make things more interesting.
>Dragoon (Earthlian) (Shieldbearer)>Masuro (Therian) (4 Swords)>Puglist (Earthlian) (Impact)>Warlock (Celestrian) (Elemancer)>Botanist (Brouni) (Healer)We like MMO teams, right /eog/?
>>476131807The Dark Spire... also published by Atlus. It has its flaws, but I'd argue EO1 also has its flaws. It's always a balancing act between game enjoyment and game annoyment with this genre... But if you can enjoy it, I'd recommend it.
I need buccaneer sex NOW
>>475990458Did you actually use yggs for the early game or did you only switch to them after unlocking subs? I can't imagine how'd you do early game with 5 yggs.
>>476171206>I'm disappointed. I had heard that 2U's story was decentAnimetards and waifufags have garbage taste, more news at 7. I knew U2 story was going to be shit as soon as they pussied out of killing Wolfgar or whatever the fuck his name was. To be fair there would have been a big tonal disparity if in the next scene they're arguing about becoming kettles or Chloe being obsessed with meat or whatever anime trope the writers thought of at the time.EO is just so fucking fun though that I can forgive it, yes ultimately it diminishes the atmosphere and tone but it would still be a good game. I'm grateful that classic mode is still there though, remember when they almost didn't include it?
On the other hand, U2 does have a pretty sweet Kanako Ito OP
I like how in my town there's a delivery truck with a big orange logo on its side and its register plate reads FOE. It's even funnier that I tend to see it around the area of the center where the big buildings form corridors. Thankfully I've always managed to avoid contact with it.
>>476186185I don't like modding my games on my first playthrough.I genuinely have no idea how I'd do it for the early game.
>>476186185>>476204758My team before unlocking Yggs was Glad/whatever I just wanted 5SP, Arb/Glad, Hop/whatever I just wanted 5SP, Princess/Wildling for Wild Drums and Zod/Ninja which was INSANE and was the only thing I missed when I turned my entire party into robots.
>>476106573im coping. i want something new after replaying the current games over and over.i hope the game is not rushed.
>>476171206If one thing good came out of 2U having a story mode is that one of the party members was a survivalist, which meant the class actually had to be good for once.
>>476171206>>476186576People only say 2U's story is good because OG 2's story was almost entirely side stories about the characters in the world than it was a connected narrative.I think 2's story is still much better than 2U's regardless because those stories were all fun and some (like the one where your guild is so desensetized due to to labyrinth they bring back a dude's arm as if that wouldn't make the wife feel even worse) get surprisingly dark, 2U is much more generic anime same with 1U, 1U whitewashing you basically being complicit in a near genocide for the sake of going deeper is something I genuinely fucking hate 1U for.EO is always at its best when it has a somewhat dark undercurrent to it which is why one of my favourite bits in 4 is if you kill the baby deers, escape then come back you've caused a complete massacre of newbie adventurers.
