>Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection:https://atlus.com/etrianorigins/https://sq-atlus.jp/sq123/>Origins Portrait Rips:https://mega.nz/folder/1tASnSbb#E23CLm1oJ71WrB0_gnt3lA>Origins Font Fixes:https://gamebanana.com/mods/447602 (EO1)https://gamebanana.com/mods/447609 (EO2)https://gamebanana.com/mods/447653 (EO3)>EO3 "Liberating" ModPC:https://files.catbox.moe/jodrax.zipPC hair version:https://files.catbox.moe/szvevp.zipSwitch:https://pixel drain com/u/AwKKreQ8Switch hair version:https://pixel drain com/u/mNu4HEeHEdited portraits:https://files.catbox.moe/gur7dr.zip>Beginner's Guide to the Series:https://imgur.com/a/ggW5g5U>Etrian Odyssey Resources (Mods/Patches, References, Data Dumps, Calculators, QR Codes, Skill Sims, etc.):https://pastebin.com/LBujh3ra>Etrian Odyssey Art Books:https://pastebin.com/Tm1xN2Jy>Etrian Odyssey FLAC Albums:https://pastebin.com/cE8mdiLF>Etrian Odyssey Lossy Albums:https://pastebin.com/crChVqLB>Nexus balance patch mod:https://mega.nz/#F!o1cXTSpB!SW5Ad-o8_pKYOa9LcbyiSg>Document containing some resources and informationhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1m5G-ZQvXsmM68TCrSv2bWfKz2SfSc7xq-REfMXMhAEc/Previous thread: >>474340861
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Sex with bnuuy.That is all
>>476396859>>476398667Just reposting because this is an interesting subject
>>476398667Yeah, I appreciated the variety in EO's stratums. ...and also, somewhat paradoxically, the familiarity of always starting in a forest, before subverting expectations. People talk about how Dragon Quest is like a comfort food of jrpgs for the Japanese, especially. EO feels very 'comfort food' drpg for me. It's like, I'm in my element.
For-chan, my beloved. how can you be so smug?Or rather, what are you so smug about? You're a bit... lacking... in assets.
Etrian is really great because it balances being approachable (mechanically and story wise) by anyone with the desire to try out dungeon crawlers, but even after playing many different dungeon crawlers it remains fantastic because in a sea of games either doing too little or too much to shake up the formula making it difficult to tell them apart Etrian carves its own identity, thanks to Atlus-isms like the way the de/buff system works and limit/force giving the game more strategy in battle instead of customization before you head to the tree being the only engaging partWhat other crawlers are you playan etriams? For me, it’s Kowloon High. Not a fan of how tight some recruit flags are but bomber gothic lolita was worth the resets
>>476401797(me)>Assets found
>>476405905I like Touhou: Artificial Dream in Arcadia, but I'd be a liar if I said it was as good as EO. Great game though.
UPDATE #5Just about finished mapping Floor 7. It has been annoying with rooms strung together that have entranceways that become walls after you pass through them. Also, the entire floor has wrap-around 'walls'. Like in Pac-Man, if you're all the way to the West, and then go another tile, you're all the way on the East of the map. If I wasn't mapping it at all, I imagine it would be very confusing. (it still kind of is)Etriams lent by /eog/ are all alive and well. And and Teach have swapped out their swords for Calvary Spears. The difference, going from dealing 7-14 damage a round to 45-60 per round. The party recruited an NPC named Laurence for a bit. I stripped him of his stuff (some good armor, and one of the aforementioned spears), as well as all of his gold and deleted him...From the guild registry, I'm sure! It sounded like he was a noble, so I'm sure he's fine. But this is an adventure of /eog/ adventurers. Not Wizardry NPCs.Callie of Guild Clover is still Evil. I'm not exactly sure how to fix that. Fortunately, this entry doesn't force the Good party members to ostracize her like in other entries. Wulfric and Fluff have magic slings now, allowing them to attack (for not much damage) from the back row. It's better than burning spell slots on weaker enemies, or just defending that round. Arashi of Ishinomori has a spiffy new mini-crossbow. And he seems to be more reliably identifying and disarming traps at his level. Which is good, as chest traps start to do some cruel stuff at lower floors. (Like de-level your characters, or reduce stats permanently.)Pictured enemy looks like he's palming two FOEs.
>>476405905>Kowloon HighI've had that in my library forever, I need to play it some day.I picked up class of heroes 2 and started it the other day, its light but I enjoy it aside from how random the hp rolls are on level up, it practically crippled one of my front liners.Also really enjoyed Starcrawlers and will shill that all day to anyone who wants a sci-fi crawler with some neat visual designs.
>>476401797Sir, this /eog/, her flatness is an asset.
>>476411742Why does Fort drink?
>>476413174She's bulkin. Look at her belly
>>476413085you don't have to tell me. I was trying to bait out other admirers. But then an hour passed, and none were to be found. I had to defend her myself!
I like EO because I only date girls that are less than 5 ft tall with small tits.
why are flatter than flat chests the best?
I'm pretty much a protector irl
Despite liking the design they went with, I liked their early designs of shield-guantleted pugilists more. Even in IV, they had something like Dragoons in mind.
what are the odds of the later games ever making it to the switch
>>476416546I assume you mean the 3DS games. Fatlus like easy money. And ports are easier than developing games from scratch. I assume. But I imagine market research would suggest that the demographic interested probably already own the games on 3DS. Like, I own IV, V, Nexus, and both Untolds. So, I'm not paying for a 'graphical upgrade', considering I think they look and play fine....Which means, even if it is relatively easy to port them over, it's still to close to their original releases, and not enough people would buy the ports/remasters to justify doing it. The fact that Nexus wasn't cross-gen when games like Alliance Alive were is pretty telling.So, I'd say not particularly likely.
>>4764165460%They'll get a switch2 port though.
>>476416546If we're assuming that 6 is still happening then it's possible. Maybe they announce a 4 and 5 hd collection alongside 6 and release it before 6 as a way to get newcomers caught up with all the main numbered entries. Before SMTV, they released that Nocturne hd version for example.
damnmy 3Ds finally gave up the ghost
>>476428197What happened? Are you sure there's nothing you can do about it?
>Beat EO recently>Get to 3rd Stratum>See this cute bird girl>"Ah I hope I see more of her">Go back to Etria>Tell the Radha Hall about her>"Oh the bird people? *Tchh* Yeah, the only solution is the final solution I'm afraid">"Wha-">One Genocide later>"Alright you won anon, go to ruined japan or whatever I don't care you'll never see me again.>She walks off in the distant to die alone I suppose.D-do they do anything more with her in Untold or is it also as heart wrenching and anti climatic as this game?
>>476429354>bird girlShes a plant girl, the bird people are in EO2.>D-do they do anything more with her in UntoldClassic mode is unchanged, but in story mode after you finish the 4th stratum she spends the rest of the game chilling at your guild house which is admittedly is nice. However they also completely whitewash the salad genocide which is fucking lame and is one of the main reasons people hate Untold story mode so much.
I'm going to run TWO Landsknechts in EO1
>>476432526For the main game, that doesn't even seem like that horrible of a run.
>>476432519>Shes a plant girlMy minds blown, Regardless shame about the plot of EOU, but I might still run it through just to see whats changed. It would be nice to see more of Kupala, but at the same time, it makes no sense in my mind how she'd ever be chill with what happens to her people.
>EO1Just use 5 Survivalists lol
>>476433641I enjoy cock and ball torture so I'm going to use 3 ronins and 2 hexers
>>476429354In Untold you forcibly turn her into your maid
I have a hard time figuring out if these vague esl descriptions mean anything or not.
>>476435957It's true, but it only applies to normal attacks or chasers that use normal attacks (Warrior's Might).
>spend hours trying to get QR codes to work>nothing>rub two 3ds together >Suddenly get guild cardsHuh
>>476433585Despite all its problems, I still think story mode is worth playing through once just to check it out.>it makes no sense in my mind how she'd ever be chill with what happens to her people.Well like I said they whitewash the salad genocide pretty hard, but even then she's still cold with you. She only chooses to live at your guildhouse because she has nowhere else to go, and she only warms up to you because of Stockholm syndrome.
>map 90% of floor 11>5th thunderstorm of the week starts>"I really need to go save, but what's over there">find a mining node in the last corner of the map>lose power for .8 seconds
>>476439336>not playing on the ds
Whats the priority for a hoplite in 3, Line Guard or Provoke?
>>476443719provoke barely does anything
>>476443825got it
>>476443825Is provoke a good investment in ANY eo?
Just getting started on EO3 HDHoplite/Gladiator/NinjaMonk/Arbalestthat work okay as a starting party? I know you can sublass later which will open things up, but wondering if I'm missing anything obvious. Was tempted to swap someone out for Wilding but not sure who it would be.
>>476453312wildling is a bit trash and clashes hard with ninjaas nice as my paralysis spam has been I'm sure just having a ninja or zodiac doing 3x the damage would be better
>>476453870>wildling is a bit trash and clashes hard with ninjadamn, thats a shame, I like the concept of the class
I want another HD remaster pack to happen just so they would reprint the OSTs for 4 and 5, you can't bloody find them brand new anywhere anymore.
>>476453312i'd stick a zodiac in there, either in place of the gladiator or ninja, but it's workable as is
>>476454410Wildling isn't trash by any means. Its only considered bad because of how it clashes with ninja, which is a super strong subclass in 3.
Decided to bump the thread, have you?Good, I've been hoping someone would.
>>476460236haha yes anyway can I fuck your tits?
EO3HD. Made it to B03 so far.H/G/AP/MShould I replace the P with a Zodiac or am I fine as is?
>>476468689probably, because monk and sovereign together is overkill
>>476457982>>476458240thanks ladsI'll run with it a little while longer and see if the lack of the zodiac starts to hurtended up making a part in each of the HD games with the idea of getting them all a couple of levels in and seeing what I'm vibing with
I got to the second stratum in EOIV. I imagine you want to rest at level 22 so you can respec all of your points into the newly available skills? Are any of Landsnekcht's veteran skills all that good? I don't see much point in taking them over the link skills + improved link
>EO2 has mid-stratum geomagnetic polesWhy did this never return? Floor jump feels too streamlined.
>>476471917Last time I played I only respecced once at 42, after I had subclasses. But if you want to dump your SP on new skills, 2 levels is basically nothing.
1-3: EO14-6: EO27-9: EO30: Class of Heroes 2
>>4764532341HD buffs it to be great
>>476476796alright thenRonin/Protector/Dark HunterWar Magus/Gunner
If I take more than 10 steps in the Miasma Forest will I -ACK! and game over or will it just send me out of the room? I'm tentatively assuming it's the former but it would be really annoying to have to Ariadne Thread out when I make a fucky wucky.
>>476479512iirc you're thrown out of the room
>>476479512the party realises the sickness is starting to overcome them so they quickly rush out, which gameplay wise is being teleported out
>>476480286>>476480468I figured that's probably much more likely and that there was probably a floor or something like that in 5 (which is the only other Etrian game I've played) that I just don't remember. But it would be kind of based if it just fucking killed you.
>>476481035Following this would it be better to upgrade my Runemaster's passives like Runic Flare and Runic Guidance rather than upgrading the Rune Spells themselves? The damage number on the spells doesn't seem to go up very much per level on something like Glacier Rune and upgrading the passives would strengthen all of my elements rather than just one besides.
Would you recommend starting EO3 with the nude portraits for a first time player?
>>476488459That's the intended experience
>>476439336bro, your backup diesel engine?
>ded
How viable would it be to go with a 5 Beast party in 2?Considering Rampage is ranged all 5 can be attackers.All with level 10 LoyaltySince Loyalty takes into account defense and buffs of the ally the Beast is covering, every Beast will have a 22% damage reduction. And since it takes into account buffs of the defended ally I can give all Beasts Level 1 Bristle. Maybe I could even give the back Beasts Level 5 Bristle for extra defense when they're being defended with Loyalty.I wonder if Preen works with Loyalty though. Eg: Have one of the back Beasts use Preen so the enemy hits them 100% of the time, so whenever Loyalty kicks in it will defend the Beast using Preen who will also have Brittle Level 5 activated.
>>4765159655 beasts is not only viable, but optimal
>>476519526Based, does Preen work in the scenario I mentioned?
>>476520664I just tested it with 2 beasts, yes it does>Beast 1 is bear with high level in front row>beast 2 is tiger with low level in back row>Moa uses Rush>Bear takes 15 damage and Tiger takes 30 damage >Tiger uses Bristle and Preen>Bear takes 15 damage and Tiger takes 10 damage>Bear covers tiger and takes 10 damage, Tiger covers bear and takes 15 damageit appears to be working properly
>>476534003freaking sweet, thanks anon
Does it matter what I get Quona for her birthday? I was planning on just going with Abigail's suggestion, since I figured she'd have the best idea.
>>476536636>only getting her one presentDoes your guild only have one member?
Just started EO2 with my Petshop guild and I'm looking forward to start the second stratum with a team of 5 Beasts because I'm not modding the game on my first playthrough.Decided to try something new and play it with a controller because I felt like lying on my couch tonight, and it's surprisingly comfy (thank you, full automap) although placing icons is a bit cumbersome.
Does denuvo fuck up performance in EO3? I remember seeing someone complain about it fucking up performance in one of the HD games but I forget which.
>>476471917I always rest the whole party at 22 and 42 because there's always someone who wants to rest at each point and I like to keep my exp bars even.But if you don't care about keeping the exp bars even (in which case you're playing the game wrong but whatever) then it depends on your build plan. The big question for landy is are you doing links or not? If not, then you 100% want to rest at 22 so you can get your attack skills. If you are doing links and haven't put any points into the shield break skills (or anything else that you want to rest out of) then there isn't much value to be gained by resting at 22.
>>476542547>But if you don't care about keeping the exp bars evenOne day I should do a run where I force myself to stop caring about exp bars staying even and just see where it ends up
Am I missing much if I skip EO1 and go straight into 2
>>476543721EO games barely have a story, and the setting jumps each time anyways, so it's not like EO1 is relevant to the plot of 2.I usually see anons recommending that you start with III or IV and only play the first couple if you really like it.
>>476541993After not playing EO in quite some time, it's good to be back.EO truly gives a comfy feeling no other game can replicate for me.I love this series so much, bros. When will the Next Stage™ happen?
>>476543308it balances out pretty quickly since higher levels take more exp
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Its a minor thing but I wish the HD games had included more portrait options. Especially EO1, would have been nice to have access to the ones from 2 or some of the DLCs etc
>>476554157Nah, that annoyed me as well. His art was weaker overall in 1 and I really would've like to have the 2 portraits. It would also be cool if the new hd collection portraits could be used across all three games.
Does circle boon stack if multiple people have it?
She's growing on me
Thanks anon who reccomended me that lockdown team for Nexus. Just got to the Jungle and so far it's one of the funnest teams I've had in EO.
>>476573127>1 guy 4 female teamthis guy knows wha's good
>>476575851I go with a 2/3 male to female ratio, so that it's less obvious that one of the characters is a self-insert.
>>476576419lolme too
>>476576419>2/3 Ratio>The other male is the old man grandpa.Kino
>>476401797>>476409056>>476411742>>476413085>>476414743>>476416142if shes so great, why did she not show up in nexus? check mate flat fags.
>>476583256does luck affect swashbuckle activation?
>>476573127How far has your brother gotten?>>476583843All skill activation rates are static. Luck only boosts infliction rates.
If we ever do get EO6 I hope it has specialisations like EO5 rather than subclassing
>>476588498retard
>>476588498genius
>>476588498THREE specialisations
I want subclassing and specialisations for each class/subclass combo, as well as specialisations for choosing not to subclass
>>476432519she also plays a major part in the ending to the main story iirc. by turning herself into a spear and dying
>>476588498I'm fine with either but if we get subclassing I want eo3 style subclassing instead of "lmao you only get half the levels and 90% of skills are only really useful in the lategame if you max them"
I want EO6 to have EO3 subclasses and a new Yggdroid-like class
>>476588498I think most classes should specialize... but then you have a unique class that's called a 'Squire' or something, and part of their uniqueness is that they're the only class that can subclass. So, some adventurers already have a way of doing things, and hone their skills as you take them through the labyrinth, whereas the 'rookie' class is still learning things, and picks up different skills as they go along.
>>476591660>spoilerMore like fusing her soul into the MC's spear to power him up which is still dumb.
any tips for making money early in EO3? Feels like I'm just breaking even most runs after Inn and Ariadine costsOr do I just tough it out for now
>>476588498I never liked specialisations. It always felt that you had no choice, one was shitty and the other was the only one you needed to use. And the shitty one had one or two skills you wanted to use and ignore the rest of the skillset.
>>4765970175 farmers
>>476597017I've never gone further than stratum 3 in the game but I don't think I ever ran out of money after exploring the sea
>>476598096old reliable>>476601482oh I've barely touched the boat stuff, maybe I should get on that
>>476587180About same distance. Due to a busy work week. Neither of us has that much time to play. But that should be over.
>>476597017You could also use a memory editor to give yourself extra money. It's faster than the farming party method. Just don't start editing your exp or something. At that point you might as well just watch the ending on youtube.
>>476609013>dude just cheat lolWhy am I not surprised. Let me guess, you look up guides on what are the most busted builds and also call EO easy. Lmao
>>476609263Because wasting your time having 5 farmers gather over and over again is such fun gameplay for the exact same endresult.
>>476609416You don't even need 5 farmers to gather shit.5 farmers just makes things easier and faster.
>>476588498I'd like something like grimoires but with no RNG and they're only obtained from fixed locations
Which Etrian Odyssey is the one with the cute robot with glasses that overheats?
>>476617818III
>>476597017Once you unlock subclassing one ninja farmer can print unlimited Ental.
>>4765917513 is fun for the novelty of letting you max your subclass skills, but its much better game design to limit you to half.
>>476617818You don't get her until like 2/3 of the game.
>>476617818I love megane ygg so muchAtlus should bring back Yggdroids, one of the most fun classes in the series.
>>476588498Nah, subclassing is the best system. The specializations were still good but I still prefer subclassing.
>>476588498>they bring back specializations>they also bring back subclasses>You can subclass as the other specialization
bump before bed
*Strange Sneeds*
>>476622986>>476617818You also have to select the route that unlocks them which is easy to figure out.
>>476622986Yggdroids is the only class in the series I'm okay with being unlocked relatively late in the game because Yggs need a ton of sp to be even functional.
>>476647560Does their luck really make them better ailment inflictors than wildlings?
>>476654505I mean, I get why. It's thematic to the story, and it's a class designed with subclassing in mind. By all accounts, among unlock classes, it's by far the best deaigned for the role.But if he is playing the game soley for glasses robot, then it is something worth mentioning that it'll be awhile until he gets one, especially if it's his first Etriam
>>476655639If someone did use one from the start, what would be the best skills to invest into? Bot chases or just going all in on crit?
>>476655620Wildlings get a flat +10% inflict chance after enemy resistance so they're the best if what you want to inflict comes from an animal
>>476656914you'd probably start with their head/arm attack skill and sleep mode to fuel it. While normally mediocre that's because you only get them when your good skills are already available; they should be fine early game. Probably.
>>476656914Bot chases 100%Yellow Bot also absolutely rapes Narmer.
>>476588498That's fine as long as you can pick a specialization after the 1st stratum instead of the 2nd like EO5.
>>476432519They made up the excuse that they were sick or whatever, but you're still murdering all of them. I barely call that a whitewash since its equivalent to saying that it's okay to kill a village full of people because some of them were mentally ill.
>>476658834Do bot chases work like bucc chases or are they always a 100% chance of procing?
>>476657742>level 10 cow>fight new FOE>all my guard orders and guard tactics and line guards and beast roars were totally meaningless because it never attacks>look at the stat page
>>476665698They work like Bucc chasses but stronger.Damage starts at 80% per chase and it increases by 10 with each level to a max of 170% per chase at level 10.Bucc chases are also 170% at level 10, but Bots are 170% using the TEC damage formula.
>>476665478I forget the exact wording, but its basically described as a zombie virus and they explicitly say there is no cure. At that point, its a mercy killing. To compare this fictional disease to real life mental illness is an insult to the mentally ill.
>>476672573I could have sworn that it was just that some of them were going crazy. The zombie virus thing if that's what they really did is nonsense.
sexromancer
>try to return to my eo3 playthrough>lose all will before I even start because it just isnt nearly as good as 5 or 2U/1UI just wanted to support the series finally making it to pc so I guess it doesnt matter if I never finish it
>>476675303but I will think less of you for not finishing itcan you handle that
>>476675881IdkMaybe
Ok Roninbros, once I hit level 22 I plan on resetting my skill tree to better optimize it for veteran skills. Until now, I've been experimenting with the stances, but now that I am familiar with the class, I think it's for thr best to invest in only one stance.I am thinking Upper stance since I plan to subclass Landy, but are there any merrits to the other stances to make me consider them instead?
>>4766753033 is awesome, I don't know what to tell you.
>>476677865Er, maybe Swift Stance. Strike Fast, Strike hard. Love Proficiency and Initiative
>>476672858They don't actually say the word zombie, or describe them as becoming undead, but instead they say something along the lines of them being infected with something that makes them go into an uncontrollable violent rage. They're basically the rage zombies from 28 days later.
first try ez kill
>>476685904Not even close, baby
>>476685904heather been slacking
>>476686198I do feel like I was unlucky with swashbuckle procs.
>>476685904>uneven expDo it again
>>476686539:)
>>476686718May as well just start over now.
>>476686539>>476686807Just fsctor the uneven exp into the roleplay :)
>>476686718not him, but this doesn't bother me as much as when you have four party members with matching EXP, and one that doesn't. >Level 11>Level 11>Level 11>Level 10>Level 11
>>476687842>Just fsctor the uneven exp into the roleplaythis is how I cope too
>EO3 "Liberating" ModI've been out of the loop, what is this?
>>476677865Yeah, for the sake of SP efficiency you want to specialize in just one stance. Put 1 point into the other 2 stances now and eventually raise them to 7 late game for the sake of the force boost though.Drawing and clear stance specializations are good, don't get me wrong, but upper stance is just better. The main reason to pick drawing or clear is for the sake of not being meta. Also, you have gunner, survivalist, and ninja on your team, which is a LOT of Helm splitter support.
>>476691132It liberates
>>476409928ADiA is a significant improvement on the SMT1/2 formula but obviously still falls short of EO because it's not trying to be as complex as EO. If anything it's pretty comparable to Strange Journey or Soul Hackers.
>>476411652>>476405905Kowloon is incredible but I wish I could finish it...I got up to the final chapter and the bosses are so hard I haven't made progress in like a year.My favorite part of Kowloon is the mini retro dungeon crawler in the game that gives you stats in the main game for completing parts of it.
>>476698773>mini retro dungeon crawler in the game that gives you stats in the main game for completing parts of it.soul
>>476698205I'd argue it plays better than any SMT game, by like a significant margin.
Spicy etriams
>>476710217umami etriami
cant decide which game to play
>>476711765Look at my digits.>1=1>2=2>3=3>4=4>5=5>6=1U (Classic)>7=2U (Classic)>8=Nexus>9=You Shut your eyes and the first class you think of you have to build a team around.>0=We decide your party via dubs>dubs= You play EO Mystery Dungeon
>>476609416You didn't beat the game.
>>476715206I dont have Untold 1 but will play HD 1, thank you
>The enemy took you by surprise!>Evilroot is preparing an attack!genuinely what am I supposed to do in this situation
playing through the HD games, bouncing around between the threeam I right that there a lot less shortcuts in 1-2 (at least early) compared to 3 or am I just missing them
>>476729792Shortcuts barely exist in 1, to the point that you end up having to traverse practically 80% of the 5th stratum in one go.2 has a couple here and there, especially just before boss rooms but it doesn't need that many because it had the prototype to 5's version of floor skip with the mid stratum poles.
>>476730329The 5th Stratum is the one with the elevators on every floor.
>>476730329Lost Shinjuku is one of the best strata in terms of atmosphere and worldbuilding, but God the level design is genuinely terrible.
>>476731250You don't access elevators until when you're practically done with the stratum. And if memory serves me correctly, they force you to do the long trek two or three times because of the Dragon/Storm Emperor quest.
Next Stage soon™
>binds refuses to apply>ailment runs lasts only 2 turns>enemy successfully ailments the entire party at once>kills key members at the time they're most needed>*game over jingle*
Are skill formulas different between EO1 and EO1HD?Skill description doesn't match sim stats.
>>476759707they should be mostly the same. There were some small changes to skills but nothing major. The most notable things are provoke is good now and bind inflict chance goes up by a lot when you fail to inflict a bind
What is it about Fafnir that causes so many people to overrate the guy's performance? I mean yeah he's strong later on in the game but that's not unique in 2U given the sheer amount of bullshit you can concoct
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8K4mlvSCvs
>>476764856one guy like 10 years ago used chloe as a healer and arianna as a damage and changed flavio to a gunnerarianna, fafnir, flaviobert, chloethe world stopped and some people didnt like it
Do buffs/debuffs stack if they come from multiple sources?
>>476764856he does a lot of damage at once then goes on cool down, which looks better than other classes that need set up to do a lot of damage.Also he says a cool phrase and has cool music when he transforms>>476767237yes, though there's diminishing returns. In the later games the strongest buff gets the full effect, the 2nd strongest only is 60% effective, and the last is only 20% effective. This is only for buffing the same stat 3 times; if the buffs don't overlap they're all 100% effective.
>>476715206>trips= You play both 1U and 2U (Story)>quads= Emulate Wizardry or Might and Magic or Bards Tale on a virtual Apple II>quints= You walk blindfolded across a 6 lane highway. You will be hit, and isekai'd into Etriam
>>476766675If you wanted you could do something like Fafnir, Troubadour, Alchemist, Hexer and whatever you want if you wanted to go full dps burst from the story team because that's how silly 2U is a game.>>476767775If I recall correctly you end up having to do setup with him too since there's Accelerate and Delayed Chase or whatever its called. And we're going to pretend that you aren't using Compression for a second like almost every other elemental attacker in 2U. I do like his theme song and stuff though but its just kind of weird to see people still pretend that you can just put Faf in and destroy Expert Mode without any care or thought into the game.
>>476719758Use a blast grenade.
do qr codes and shit still work for the 3ds incase i ever wanted a level 10 poison powder without grinding?
>>476775543Yes. The QRs are just data in a scannable image form; they don't require internet connection or any sort of authentication.
>>476764856I think it's pretty for people to act like playing story mode is basically easy mode because of Fafnir in the same game where Compression Alchemist / Compression Sovereign and Dark Hunter / Hexer combos exist.2U just has a lot of busted classes and combos.
>>476764856he like if imperial and ronin had a baby :)
>>476775543The qr codes online work but for some reason mine are always unreadable .
Playing EOV. Cruised through the game, hit a wall at the flying mummy boss. Then hit another groove.Now 25F is kicking my ass at almost every random encounter, and I'm wondering if it's my level or my party.Right now I'm Lv58, runningCanon Drag / Blade master Mas / Barrage BrawlMerciful Bot / Elemental WarDid a little bit of rejiggering on skill points, but I still feel like the wrong enemy pairing will wipe the party if one turn goes wrong. Whole previous stratum (and most of the previous floors) didn't feel like that.
>>476783876>He doesn't have a Shaman to turn his Warlock into a Clever Strike machine armed with the biggest cannon availablengmi
>>476776936>Fafnir>Compression Alchemist / Compression Sovereign>Hexer/Dark Hunter Combo>Palm Alchemist/Chaser Shark>2 completely distinct and viable tanks>2 alright healers>Gunner is the second best behind Nexus>Survivalist and Troubadour are allowed to be good for once.>The only real stinker of a class is a dlc classWhy was 2U disliked so much on release?
>>476787376it released the same week as a pokemon game
>>476783876floor 25 encounters, particularly the nightmares, felt like a huge pain in the ass so I think that's intended.
>>476787376>>476787972A lot of dlc, I mean a lot.Remember that we had like 2-4 dlc packs for free that the nips had to pay for.
>>476786006for me it was necro>encounter starts>necro spell into elemancer aoe>encounter over
Hi, occasional tourist here. Ran this team for my first playthough of 3 last year until the remasters got announced. Stopped at the point where I pick a side on the 3rd stratum. Ga/Bg/AgPm/WhI adore this team and really want to finish this run, but on 3HD, not my phone. BUT I don't want to run through the earlygame gauntlet without Vigilance again.Which bullet do I bite?
>>476787376>2 alright healers2U Medic is the best he's ever been since 1.Overheal alone makes them actually worth having in a party instead of chugging Medicas.Medical Rod is fantastic with an elemental focused party.And Vital Hit makes them actually good damage dealers when paired with a Beast and/or another Medic.>Why was 2U disliked so much on release?Jap 'tism
>>476789136Depends, which side did you pick?If you didn't choose to side with Yggchads, start over
>>476786006Botanist seemed like the best healer, and I didn't use a guide to look up skills beforehand. Maybe I'll go meta in postgame but for now I wanna try to get through the main game by my own means>>476788056Maybe, it's just a pain in the ass shooting around the map trying to find the right path only to get three petrifies on an ambush. I know after the first time that's my fault for not getting accessories, but still.
>>476791715Fair, I personally don't think using skill calculators is cheating, but that's mostly because I love theory crafting and party building, which is why 2U is my favourite game
>>476790337Picked Shogun cause i like the oldman and want to swap him in for the bucc. There's another run i started where i'm planning on picking ygg, does that count? I also rp my groups and shogun makes sense for this one
>>476789487>Troubadour was allowed to be good for onceTroubadour has never been a bad class. Even at their worst, they're still one of the stronger classes in their game.Also, I'd argue that Ronins got a pretty rough deal since they have the worst force break for a damage dealer and have an extremely wonky skill set with stuff like>Horse Slash is better than Swallow Strike for functionally the entire main game>Compression + Frigid Slash is actually their strongest attack>>476789487I wish that 2U Medic had passive Overheal like Botanist/Nexus Medic but its pretty as a charge skill.
Looks like the Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord 3D remake is getting a Switch port this month.It advertises that it's the same game 'under the hood'. I really hope not. That's going to HARD FILTER drpg casuals. Also, the price point is... I mean. A lot of work was put into making 3D environments, and character portraits, and Ui. So, I get it. You got to pay your devs.But this is a game from 1981. That, again, they say they've left untouched (mechanically). I don't think I'm paying $39.99 for it.Still. Pretty neat. I hope they port the elminage games to switch.Translate the two or three on psp that didn't get translated (and don't even have fan translation) and drop on the eshop for $20 a pop.
>>476794096I think Perfect Chaser can also be a fun option in the right parties. I ran it with Double Attack Landy and Survivalist, who can use Illusion Step procs to provide activations.This can also work with Landy's chasers which is probably stronger, but if you want to use Ronin then it's a thing you can do
>>476799349>But this is a game from 1981It's not nice thinking we'll see the first generation of videogame devs and players die in our lifetime. Only a few decades to go.
>>476769184y'know, for being, like, the third video game ever created, Wizardry sure has some wack ass mechanics to itI've only explored the first floor so far, but it already shows an out-of-bounds zone, map wraparound, invisible walls, hidden passages that you can't see shit in, teleport tiles, and a fucking elevator to floor 4. I haven't even used the floor 2 stairs and I already found a floor 4 skip after accidentally walking into an invisible wall. I had to use one of my mages as a dedicated mapper spending magic charges using Dumapic every couple steps after I accidentally activated the hidden teleport and got stuck walking around in rooms that were seemingly closed off, or wrapped around, and I couldn't see shit in, or to figure out that the "A-D Buttons" tile was actually an elevatorHaving enemies be groups, instead of individuals is also very strange, limiting the max damage you can do to one enemy at a time, and making it so you can actually cast spells that target single enemies, a group of enemies, or all enemies.My previous thief fucking died, and then his revive failed and he turned to ash, and then his revive failed again he fucking disappeared into nothingness. Straight up GONE.Every enemy so far has 5-10 health, but then I got into a fight with Murphy's Ghost after touching some statue and the motherfucker had like 100 hp or something. And my fucking mage turned evil after we killed him so I had to dump him off and get a new mage to replace him because all my other good characters didn't want him in the fucking party. And then my Fighter levels up and LOSES STRENGTH. My characters LEVEL UP and their fucking STATS go DOWN. WHY???Honestly compared to today's standards of difficulty, Wizardry has some massive balls to come up with this kind of crazy shit, while also being older than my dad.And this is just the first floor of the first game
>>476813684soul
>>476813684>1981>Older than my dadInsanely based zoomer
>>476813684>And then my Fighter levels up and LOSES STRENGTH. My characters LEVEL UP and their fucking STATS go DOWN. WHY???I cant remember if wizardry does it, but is it one of the games where you can roll for how many bonus points a character gets at creation?because if you high roll on those, some games have a balancer that starts dropping stats from characters with big stats and giving more to those with few stats on level ups
>>476815303yeah, from what I've played with, characters can start with 5-8 extra points, and there's like a 10% chance that each character will just get a extra +10 points, but I'm not entirely sure on what goes in to the RNG so don't quote me on that
>>476813684Bro, were we talking the other week? I said not to play the first one. To stick with the Star*Fish developed ones.But, yeah. Wizardry was a game that made you want to beat it just out of spite towards the devs. A lot of the mechanics are taken right from AD&D, which is armor class, or AC is sort of more important than HP. Also, in later wizardry games, you can re-roll stats. So the 'stats going down' with a level up was MEANT to prevent someone from giving themselves amazing stats and then reclassing to one of the best classes in the game at level 2-4. ...At least I think that was the reasoning behind it.You're a mad man playing dos-box OG wizardry.Gaiden IV or Standard V on the SNES are decent starting points.I'm playing through Wizardy Empire at the moment. And it's relatively tame compared to the first game.Also, it's costly for low level parties, but you can actually buy a scroll in Empire that casts Dumapic, without expending a spell slot, at the risk that there's a set percentage chance that the scroll will be destroyed upon use. Wizardry always has floors that I call the 'Do you know where you are, no really, like, are you where you think you are?'-floors. Plenty of warp tiles and repeating hallways will have you mapping yourself in circles if you don't pause to check your coordinates every now and then.
>>476815996I've never spoken to a single person in my entire lifeand I like playing series in chronological order regardless of how horrendous some games are
>>476783876I don't remember what the random encounters are like on that floor but your party and level seems fine.
>>476816145based
>>476816145...well, you'll be happy to know that you've just started a trilogy, and the subsequent entries try to out-bullshit the previous ones. So, you know. Good luck with that. You're more patient than me, that's for sure.
>>476789487>2U Medic is the best he's ever been since 1.>Overheal alone makes them actually worth having in a party instead of chugging MedicasAre you sure youre not thinking of EOV? Overheal is a charge skill and not a passive in 2U, its shit and only useful in a party with multiple medics.
>>476791715>Maybe, it's just a pain in the ass shooting around the map trying to find the right path only to get three petrifies on an ambush. I know after the first time that's my fault for not getting accessories, but still.Thats more of an ambush problem than a petrify problem. I think its a bit unfair to say that its your fault for getting ambushed. Instead of getting petrify resistance accessories (well maybe get one for your botanist), get the killing shot bow for your botanist and then fully upgrade it. The game doesn't tell you (which is fucking bullshit) but the wary eye skill is risk perception, at level 5 its a 75% chance to negate ambushes.Also if you really need it, Barrage Brawler does have Fault blocker which is really good. That again, Barrage brawler is so fucking SP hungry that I'm not sure if I'd actually recommend it lol. IDK, Ive never actually used that skill because the only time I ever used Barrage brawler was on a team with a shaman with exorcism prayer.
>>476813684https://lparchive.org/Wizardry-Proving-Grounds-of-the-Mad-Overlord/Take this>Having enemies be groups, instead of individuals is also very strange, limiting the max damage you can do to one enemy at a time, and making it so you can actually cast spells that target single enemies, a group of enemies, or all enemies.That is a very cool design decision that you don't see used very often iirc. Only other thing I can immediately think of are the GB SaGa games
>>476813684Based zoomer playing the most soulful way possible. Would've pushed the SNES or PS1 versions myself but I respect the commitment. Legit hope you keep us updated.Part of Wizardry's fuckery comes from Gygax's fuckery in older D&D. Dude would make dungeons where the floor gently slopes down to a lower level, so if you didn't have a dwarf (to sense the subterranean features), or your players kept bad maps (one player was a dedicated Mapper), they would accidentally walk into a level they were too weak for.I mean the whole game steals from that era of D&D, but the dungeon shenanigans are definitely of the time.Hope you have fun with it, bro
What level should be at to beat the Narmer in EO3? Sitting at 13 now and dont seem to be able to pull it off
>>47682193912-15
>>476821939Just bring some volt attacks and AoE
>>476813684Oh yeah I forgot to mention, if your party dies in the maze, you don't get a game over screen or anything, you just keep playing. Your party is left on the tile they died at, and if you want them and all their equipment back, you need to go back into the dungeon to pick them up. But you can't just pick up infinite dead bodies, no, you need space in your party to pick up the dead characters. So you've gotta create fresh level 1 characters, then go into the maze with an incomplete party, pick up your dead soldiers, walk all the way back to the castle, heal them up, then take ANOTHER incomplete party trip to pick up the rest of your dead party members (and potentially more repeats if you go with a party of 4 or 5 characters instead of 3). I figured this all out the hard wayYou also have to remember spell names, and then you have to TYPE IN THE SPELL NAME to actually use it. No you can't look up the spell list while you're in combat, idiotAnd chests are sometimes trapped, and you have to type in the trap name to disarm it, but at least your thief can identify the trap for you (sometimes (occasionally (rarely)))and then you get poison needled when your thief said crossbow trap, and you also stay poisoned until you go back to town, it doesn't just go away over time like in Final Fantasy, or disappear at the end of combat like Etrian. You're stuck with it.Sorry fucker, you lost 20 health from that poison? Better pay me 200 bucks if you want that health back. bitch. TEN DOLLARS FOR EVERY HEALTH POINT. I'M GETTING $20 JUST FROM KILLING A DOZEN ORCS, THIS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.Died? Sorry kid that's 250 bucks a pop for a revive. whoops, I just messed up your friend's revive and turned him into ash, better pay me another 500 big ones if you wanna see your friend again. brutal dude
>>476822183The spell and trap stuff is smoothed over in the new remake, but it sounds like you're committing to the bit
>>476822183I'm playing Class of Heroes 2 right now which also does the "go back and collect the dead guys" and "oops failed rez, oops failed ashes" thingits pretty fun in a way when you stick with it
>>476822121tried that, still got smoked. Maybe I'll go grind another level or two
>>476821939party?also remember that you can use a tent between phases
>>4768262964 farmers. Having a full party is cheating
>>476826296Monk/Gladiator/HopliteNinja/ArbalestI think it might be a lack of damage because while my Ninja has been doing great against randoms, especially with izuna, he's not doing much in this fight
UPDATE #6An ambush by a demon, whose master was a mad alchemist that had made a portion of the 9th Floor his lab, sent the party of /eog/ members tumbling below. The room was filled with ankle-deep acid, but the party floated over it with magic, taking no damage from the tiles.Stepping out into an anti-magic room dispelled all of the party's active spells, which I hadn't noticed at first, until I had to fight with 'unidentified enemies' in the next hallway.In wizardry, enemies are only vaguely described to you, until you fight them long enough to identify them... or you cast a spell allowing automatic identification for the duration of that delve. This spell had been canceled in the previous room.Gorgons and 'Winged Creatures' had bites that both petrified and poisoned. Callie, Arashi, and Wulfric were all turned to stone, and poisoned. Medicines and magic scrolls were used to mitigate the damage, but the party had to return to the level above, fight the mad alchemist, AND make it back to the surface while down two party members.All are alive, but Callie of Clover guild is being temporarily swapped out for Aurora of guild Triad. Callie is my only Bishop, and Bishops are needed to identify items, but having advanced too early, she didn't learn a lot of crucial Priest spells. The plan is to level Aurora until she can be a bishop, swap back to Callie, demote to Priest, learn the spells, and become a bishop again... all before delving deeper.tl;dr - At:Floor 9/10, all donated etriams are alive, temporary changes to party before some grinding for exp.
>>476828792Having to figure out what you're even fighting is another extremely strange design choice. Is this how it works in DnD?
>>476829301>Is this how it works in DnD?Not specifically but I'm guessing its to go for the vibe of exploring the unknown and "what the hell is that thing"
>>476827010Ninja is like that, I also had the displeasure of using him against the first two bosses.
which EO has the cutest NPCs
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>>476815996Is Wizardry Gaiden IV for PC? Is the SNES one pretty? The SNES had a lot of really lovely pixelart games for the time.
>>4768322905 because sexo
>>476829301Not as far as I can tell. But I only have a passing familiarity with AD&D. Much more comfortable with 5e. I imagine it's to emulate darkness. Fighting some... thing. In the dark, until you get close enough to hit it with your sword, to see that the humanoid shape is... actually... a SKELETON!that or/and what >>476829956 said. >>476834275Wizardry Gaiden IV came out in the 90s. And is a Japanese title, so if it did come out on home computers, it would have been on the MSX or PC-98, I imagine. MSX2? I don't know. Answering the graphics question, is that, yes. They're visually better than an Apple II. Interestingly, though. Most Wizardry games have an option to turn the graphics off. Or rather, to choose to play in black and white in a wireframe maze. Not sure why... But even the Wizardry I remake getting ported to Switch this month allows you to switch back and forth between 'modern' graphics, and Apple II graphics. Pretty sure that game has been out on Steam for a year or two.
man if I was an adventurer I'd be getting heated at these innkeepers constantly jacking up the price of a room
>>476832290I'm still upset Minami Star never did a Jenetta doujin.
>>476840309Jenetta only deserves loving vanilla plapping.It's for the best.
>>476698205this has a cute art style.I know... almost nothing about touhou though. I can only name Cirno and Reimu. Do I need to be a touhou fag to be able to play this game. Or can it just be a dungeon crawler with cute yokai(?) girls.
>>476840953He did draw loving vanilla plapping from V though.
>>476764856>>476769764>its just kind of weird to see people still pretend that you can just put Faf in and destroy Expert Mode without any care or thought into the game.Are you so autistic that you can't detect hyperbole? Or do you just hang around unironic retards yet cannot identify them?
>>476832290>innkeeper Jenetta>shopkeeperShilleka>barmanMissy>GuildmasterMarion>Main Quest GiverPersephoneThis is the definitive option for each category. There is no room for dissent.
Cute!Her bangs are super noticeable, how did I never see them before I got spoiled on her being a girl.
>>476841650>Do I need to be a touhou fag to be able to play this game.No. If you really want to know who a character is the games compendium can give you a brief explanation. But it really isn't that important.
>>476847651I'm should've probably explained the context of this image, the quest where you need to find find a birthday present for the innkeepers daughter and you ask her for advice, cause without that I assumed the image wouldn't be very cute at all.
>>476847457pretty solidI would also accept kirtida from IV as barmaid
>>476847651Her hair looks like it could be part of the armor design.
>>476847961It's honestly genius design
>>476840953Is there an actual translated version of this? It's not up on panda.
Beat Narmer, though it didn't feel like an especially definitive win, even at level 15. Really need to find something for my ninja to do in boss fights, feels like a zodiac would have done a lot better there while still doing what the ninja has been doing in randoms (deleting troublesome enemies)
>>476829301EhhhA DM isn't going to tell players too much about a monster. The reason is they don't want players to metagame encounters. But players aren't gonna turn their brains off, so after a few rounds, if they know rolling a 10 misses, and rolling an 11 misses, but rolling a 13 hits, they have a good guess what the AC is. And after you kill a few, you have a good idea on HP. But the DM probably isn't going to divulge "this monster has petrifying breath, this monster ages you". They want the surprise, or for you to suss it out.I get how Wizardry would want to gamify that.
>find stupid gargoyle >immune to everything but poison and ice>*helm splitter*>Practically 2 tap it.I am starting to question how I've always overlooked it.
>>476846335Why do you sound so defensive over a simple observation? He's not wrong in that there's a lot of misinformation about 2U floating around which can give false impressions to newer players.
>>476858213Yeah, letting helm splitter ignore damage resistance was fucking retarded, especially since ronin already gets access to every other damage type.
>>476861269>pure offense class having pure offense access was fucking retardedNani?
>>476861269Helm Splitter is balanced the same way it was in V. It ignores resistances in exchange for having dog shit accuracy which isnt really much of flaw.Ronins also do theoretically have access to every damage type but most of their options stink and so you won't actually use them. Not like Ronins having access to every damage type is new or usual at that point in the franchise.
>>476860731I don't go on reddit or gamefags or wherever you guys come from. The last time there was a person here spewing such stuff about Fafnir they were BTFO quite hard, but that was a few years ago.>defensiveoh yeah man I am actually Fafnir irl so please don't insult my strength. No more gays like you.
>>476861913>Gamefaqs and RedditReady to bring up your usual boogie men aren't you? I saw people spouting the same incorrect bullshit about Faf right here on 4chan.
>>476861627That's not what I said.>>476861757>Ronins also do theoretically have access to every damage type but most of their options stink and so you won't actually use themYeah and that's bad. The main reason they stink is because helm splitter exists. Giving a class a bunch of different attack skills but making one of them way more OP than the rest of them is bad design. If Helm splitter didn't ignore cut resistance then it would make the elemental skills have more value. If the other attacks all did more damage (or if helm splitter did less) then I'd be okay with helm splitter ignoring cut resistance.
>>476861269>>476867478Helm splitter is semi-busted sure, but the elemental slashes just suck. You can effectively only grab one and it's scaling isn't very good.
>>476867478No, anon, they stink because their damage is bad, their scaling is awful, and they don't offer any meaningful utility or CC.Take out splitter, and Ronin still wouldn't use the elemental slashes outside of heavily resistant targets.
>>476867887>>476868684Yeah its both. Helm splitter is too strong, the other attacks are too weak.>Take out splitter, and Ronin still wouldn't use the elemental slashes outside of heavily resistant targets.Yeah that's my point. Having the other skills be occasionally useful is better than them never being useful at all. Its silly for an attack that ignores resistance to do more damage to an enemy weak to fire than a fire attack. And yeah, I get that helm splitters damage is to compensate for its low accuracy, but its over compensating. You could buff the damage on the elemental attacks to 250% and take away Helm splitter's ability to ignore resistance and Helm splitter builds would STILL be the meta for ronin.
I want to use a Ronin in EO2.Any recommendations for the rest of the squad to build around her?
>>476871683HexerWar MagusGunnerDark Hunter
>>476871945I guess the idea is to lock down bosses instead of tanking?
>>476871683Ronins in 2/2HD don't really care what they're paired with because they're a largely self-sufficient attacker who only asks that you bring some defensive assistance.For example, you can run the generic cookie cutter team outlined here >>476871945 or you can run them in an elemental team with Hexer, Landshark, Troubadour and filler where you abuse the stacking nature of Frailty + Elemental Songs to do some mondo damage.
>>476873603>2>tankinglol
>>476876768ah I see>>476874436>you can run them in an elemental team with Hexer, Landshark, Troubadour and filler where you abuse the stacking nature of Frailty + Elemental Songs to do some mondo damage.that actually sounds pretty fun, is it using the chasers on the landsknecht?
I wish buccaneers were real
>>476840309I hate that these events only happen once in V. once you go past that floor she leaves. I wanted to keep going back to that clearing.
>>476876768Protector is an offensive unit pretending you be a tank just like in 1. However 2HD does make Provoke not terrible and allows them to act as a Provoke tank instead of a spam Front Guard tank.>>476878334Lands are basically build around Chasers or don't bother in 2. They do have Tornado and Silencer as filler moves but that's all they really are.If you're concerned about durability especially when using War Cry, bring a Protector with maxed out Provoke.
>Helm Splitter anti thinking he knows game designlollmao even
>>476895361I understand the hatred, but it's just too funny to hate. Especially when its used right after my Ninja does her sleep dagger. Ronin is quickly going from a class I never used to one of my favorites.
>>476848681Yeah, most other Guildmasters feel very samey in comparison.
>>476848681I want her to use me as breeding meat
>>476871683lol, she's been reading the map upside down this whole time, and Hexer just found out that they're so lost they're in a SMT universe now. The lil nigga on her head told her so. He also keeps demanding Macca. But the two don't know what that is.
>>476902579they aren't that lost, they just accidentally ended up in EO3 instead of 1 and 2 where they belong
>>476871683Ronin are quite terrible in EO2 for most of the game.There are only decent damage skill is Mideraba which itself only becomes good when maxed. Add to this the low speed factor of Katanas which makes Ronins always act after then emeies and very low HP. Then they have low TP too so you can't spam Mideraba either.To max>HP Up>TP Up>Miderabayou need at least 46 skill points that is level 44 which only reach in the fifth Stratum or the fourth if you spend major times grinding.In all Etrian Odyssey games the hardest parts are the early Stratums so you have a class that royally sucks where it matters.
>>476906409>the hardest parts are the early Stratums so you have a class that royally sucks where it matters.After instantly dying to a floor 4 eye ambush one too many times I benched ronin and used a different team.
>Wanted to play a ton of EO2 now that my tests are over>Got ultra mega sick and can't even gather the strength to play anythingFuck me
>>476906409>>476907158Orochi 5 (and its equivalents) are stronger than Midareba for most of its levels and you can unlock that in Stratum 1. Kienzan (and its equivalents) are fairly easy to unlock and can last you the entire game as CC.In fact, people like you who beeline Midareba are just making it worse for yourself because running around spamming their elemental katana skills is straight up superior for a good bulk of the game due to the prevalence of elemental weaknesses for you to single out and the relatively low investment you have to make.If you don't mind resting around Stratum 3, its optimal to go down Iai first for the ice attack and use that as your bread and butter for the first two stratums since that's effective against the majority of rhe major encounters before transitioning over to the classical Overhead build.For a no rest, run you doOverhead 7Orochi 5Kienzan 1Midareba 10TP Up 10Then raise HP Up, Kienzan and Str Up to max as needed along the way. Although you can delay HP Up if you farm Life Belts in Auburn Thicket.
>>476907158Run elem singles (one) or getsuei. You can start rushing getsuei from 6 and have lv10 by 17. Rest at 31-35 for max midareba. Not ideal, but you can start maxing hp and tp after.
>>476895361When did saying that helm splitter is OP become a controversial opinion? I thought we all agreed that Ronin was one of the most OP classes in Nexus? Was it for some other reason? I feel like I'm being gaslit here.
>>476866469let me guess: /v/again, it goes back to you not being able to recognise retarded people for what they are
>>476916846>Was it for some other reason?Yes, because Air Blade is overtuned and you can just spam that the whole game from the backline using any stance.Also the new infliction formula actually utilises their high STR quite well so they can actually inflict stuff if you want them to.Helm splitter is incredibly mediocre in Nexus, only really shining if your other attacks would be resisted.
>>476916846>I thought we all agreed thatSheep. Play the fucking game and form your own opinions. Are you that guy from before that reads stuff off /v/ and mistakes it for the truth?
>>476906409I've just been using lvl1 Sayageki for the first 2 stratums since it only costs 2 TP and does enough damage to help one round most of the encounters, or one shot a few enemies. And then I use Orochi or Midareba for the harder enemies. Also I'm fucking insane and use curse cut transfer so ronin doesn't run out of TP too often, starting from the third stratum"meta-strats" are gay as fuck, surprise surprise
>>476911661Sorry to hear that, make sure you get some rest and eat some good food.
>>476921008>Complaining about people following the "meta" and proceeds to talk about Cursecut + TransferOh the irony>>476917146Are you stupid? He obviously recognizes that they're incorrect which is why he laments that we have people still trying to pass off bullshit as fact even though the game is almost ten years old.
>>476924593who the fuck thinks cursecut transfer is meta
>>476924683Do you live in a hole or something? Everybody knew about Cursecut + Transfer back when EO2 came out on the DS. Right there with the generic cookie cutter team of Ronin, Hexer, Dark Hunter, War Magus and Gunner.It's straight up the most common answer whenever someone talks about needing TP assistance as well.
>>476925220alright, the last two times I talked about it in these threads, someone or a few people said "don't do that, you're wasting war magus, just use items, invest in better skills" or something along those lines so I guess I just haven't seen the wider reception
>>476925478War Magus barely has anything to do so they will eventually pick up Cursecut. However the anons are right in that you should just buy TP Up 10, etc since it's generally more efficient and less time consuming.Too bad you can't erase 15+ years of accepted "meta" strategies such as Cursecut + Transfer, using Dampen on everything, beelining Midareba etc. even though players have attained a better understanding of the game since then.
>>476925478those people are right. Curse cut is a meme.
>>476926420People also often repeat the>Beast = badmeme despite it being objectively wrong.Wildcut is the strongest skill in the game against big groups (222% damage against all 5 targets) and Claw is super TP efficient against single targets (210% damage for only 6 TP). Then add that the Beast exclusive armor is considerible better than other armor.Just don't put any points in Loyality unless you use multiple Beasts.
Gladiator/Prince/MonkArbalist/ZodiacIs this a good line-up? Also, are Monks viable in the front line?>t. newbie
>>476929474no, use 5 farmers instead, they're OP
>>476929474>Is this a good line-up?Yes.>Also, are Monks viable in the front line?If you want to make a Punch Monk, then yes, they're ok.
>>476929474I'd move Prince to the back row, and debatably Arbalist to the front. Prince really isn't a front row unit, and doesn't benefit from being up there. Arbalist is really squishy and can't survive the front row too well, but atleast it gets a nifty skill from it.
>>476929474Put arbalist on the front and go sicko mode.Also p and m are overkill at the same time, but they can spec into other things than heals so probably still runnable.
>>476930539They can do fine in the front and have good survivability in 3. The main benefit is not having their normal attacks get the melee penalty that they would have in the back. It's a little harder to keep them at full hp for royal veil but that's about it.
>>476932363royal veil is extremely strong early on so that point alone is enough reason to leave them in the back at the start. Though you really do want at least someone else in their row with more max hp, which can be a bit tricky since they have fairly high max hp.
>>476930453>>476930548I was planning on running a more offensive Monk anyways so it seems like i'm on the right path.>>476930539>>476932363Yeah, the melee penalty combined with the Arbalist's frailty were the main reasons why i chose Prince as the front liner.
>>476934606Arb only goes in the front if you're going for Front Mortar. They can still be built for good damage in the back though.
>>476934606Arbalist can survive all right on the front. There are some tough enemies that can take you out, but good offense, good armor and prince buff can save your ass more times than not.
Is it me or are the non-unlock classes in 4 kind of one note? Outside of of Nightseeker ofcourse.
>>476939221Dancer can be fun, probably one of the more interesting buffers in the series
>>476939221What do you mean by that? Classes can be built different ways like usual. Landy can focus on links or just focus on normal sword skills. Dancer can focus on pure support or go more offensively with her chase line of skills.
>>476939703I can't tell if this is Ai, or some artist that really doesn't understand how guns work.
>>476939958The latter, looks too imperfect to be AI
>>476939958>>476940686Man, I wish we could have a good AI detector tool. Sometimes I see some image that seem like AI, but it isn't, or it was a normal pic that was painted by AI and it looks uncanny as fuck.
>>476941107>a good AI detector toolIt's called your eyes
>>476941305I mean, 90% of them are easy to spot, is the 10% that give you some doubt.
>>476939919Well like most classes are very specialized. Like Sniper is the only of the starting 7 classes to get any form of binds. Like in other games other classes would get like one type of bind.
>>476943361
just posting some images from my collection. We went a scary number of posts of actual DISCUSSION without any etriam images being posted on this IMAGE board. Almost like this thread isn't dead or something. SCARY!Anyways, don't mind me.
Himukai is really good at drawing hands
>>476945721Oh shoot, need any help?
>>476948982Another odd one from pixiv, this time it's pikachu shark.
>>476948065Why is bob always getting bullied?
>>476951227price she pays for being a flagship girl
tonight I will play EO3hopefully the girls are cute enough
>>476951227Non-blondes deserve bullying.
>>476952873EO3 is pretty good on the cute girls front
>>476941664Its fine because 4 is a game with subclassing.
>>476953712Bimbofication...
>>476953712aryan odyssey
>>476941664Other classes get binds, 4 just has skill tiers so it takes time to unlock the full tree of each class.
>>476952453>>476953712>>476954994>bobshark is the cover girl of 4>bandana shark ends up exploading in popularity>gets like 10x more fanart>even green bandana shark gets more art than bob>Mystery Dungeon uses bandana over bob>EO5 comes around, the covergirl is blonde again>infact both fencers are blondeBlonde bris, we were destined to win
>>476955990Like who?
going to try that ronin/landy/troubadour/hexer group anon suggested for EO2 with a war magus for healswish me luck
who cares about cover girls when you have bonafide centerfolds
>>476957668AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SEXOTUMMY BNUUY SEXO
>>476956571I dont even hate the bob girl but the bandana one is one of my favourite designs in the series
>>476956921Bushi and Arcanist. I was thinking medic had head bind but I was remembering wrong, they get sleep later though.
I'm just casually scrolling through the pastebin when I see>EO TCG...what'dya'mean Etrian Odyssey Trading Card Game? Tee Sea Gee?>Etrian Odyssey Trading Card Game: ExistsThere's a piece of cardstock with Fang on it, and I don't own it. Why even live?
>>476963283I think it was a Dominion expansion
>>476964427I believe that is the casefunny that himukai did art for a different game that plays similarly (or so I've been told) and out of the 3 characters he did 2 are merchants
>>476951227She's the bottom
>>476956571Making a black-haired mascot was a mistake
Imagine if we could have had bandana shark and twintails Fortress as mascots for double blondes
>>476967714
>>476963283Fang. GW2/1(1)(Tap): During an opponent's combat phase, target creature you control gains regenerate until end of turn.Flavor Text: "The Ravnica guards assumed she was just another of Selesnya's healers, until they realized all too late that her healing staff was more 'hurt' than 'heal'."
Next cover blonde will be the healer
>>476972393is she okay?
>>476972753medica will fix her
>>476972753She'll be fine, she's eaten things far more difficult to digest than that before.
is there a way to play this game that doesn't include you running back and forth in a straight line for hours grinding a level before moving onto the next? kinda kills the exploration and pace of the game for me.
>>476976589Build a better party so you can beat it with a lower level. Nothing in those games ever requires you to reach the level cap.If your current level is twice the floor number than your level is more than enough.
>>476976589nah bro. EO sucks
>>476976589The only time you have to grind is when you retire your whole party. You're probably missing something. I can think of these: you're either rushing to the floor exit, have no clue what your classes do, trying to reach autobattle viability. Or somehow you managed to build a shitty party, which isn't easy, but possible (i ran 3 beasts, medic and hexer in u2 once, i quit at scylla).
>>476976589what game and party
>>476972393I can't believe Gunko chose the bear
Going to give EO3 a go, I picked up the HD version when it came out but never got around to playing itPretty set on a core of Hoplite/Monk/Arbalist, but not sure what to take in those last two spots. Any recommendations? Wildling looks cool as a concept but on paper I'm not sure I'm sold on it
>>476985681Wildling has the best poison for a long time, can bind everything (25% at lv1/skill) and spears do decent damage from the back. I like to subclass it into hoplite to amplify backrow spears and have counter for the dragons, but you already have one as main. If you want a different 6th slot taker, I recommend Ninja, but the 2 together don't really work.Prince(ss) is amazing for buffs, but clashes with monk for heals. Zodiac has never worked out for me, but most people like it. You can do some wild shit with it and if you run frontline Arbalist, it's your best bet for backline damage.
>>476989914I made mine a farmer so I could actually collect stuff.the cow used to do good damage but now I just pray I get good paralysis procs
>>476990407Man the cow is so bad compared to venomfly. Had to rest cause it just wasn't worth having for my party. I was surprised how much support and latend damage can Wildling deal with poison and forged spears.
>>476990716I should probably rest most of my characters but losing levels hurts me.
>>476989914>Prince(ss) is amazing for buffs, but clashes with monk for heals.What if I built the monk for attacks instead of heals?
>>476991612You should be fine i suppose. You could also subclass p i guess, but it depends on yor final party.
>>476993829I killed all the bosses up to 5th stratum with buccaneer as my only damage character.except golem golem is a nigger
>>476994902Damn that sounds like shit. What was your full party?Idk if this >>476991612 was you, but if yes, I thought you were the anon asking for advice earlier.
>>476996469glad sovereign monk wilder sublasses ninja shogun (blitz) sovereign farmer respectively
>>476985681>>476991612If you want your Monk to go full damage then when you unlock subclasses replace them with a Gladiator/Monk or Yggdroid/Monk
>>476996948What the fuck was glad doing before subclassing, if not damage? Spamming wolf howl?
>>476998235sorry I meant hoplite
Who would win?
>>476999854Sexdroid
>>477024305what is that gun?
>>477028918Gun comp from devil summoner
>>477029732I prefer this if we're talking about SMT guns
Is CoH any good? And I mean EO good, not shita experience/compile fart dungeon crawler good
Hello /eog/! It's Nexus anon again, and I've made it to the tailend of waterlogged woods! But when do the FOEs get hard? I have very limited experience with Etrian games. (I've only played the first stratum of 2 and 3. And the first two Steatums of 2U and 5) Yet in those games, I remember FOEs being kind of difficult, or atleast I'd make an effort to avoid them. Yet in this game I've pretty much just plowed throufh every FOE on the first attempt, often just killing them rather than learning their movement patterns. Is expert not the intended difficulty? The basic enemies seem harder here than in 5 or 2U.
>>477024305Gunner-chan... that's not a gun. That's a /k/ smartphone.
>>477036780Nexus is one of the easier games in the series. So...
>>477040615it also has questionable balance right from the start with some class combinations being significantly overpowered relative to the intended difficulty of EO
Potato Flowers in Full Bloom just went on sale on the Nintendo Switch... for 26% off.Which is a weird number, but the price is a palindrome now at $13.31. What does all this mean? Dunno. But it has now fallen in my personal budget to where I'm going to buy it. If anyone else has interest in the game, you've got 20 days, and there's a demo.I've never played it, so it could be shit, but people here seem to have good reviews for it.
>>477040615>>477041054Ah well, that's fine. I don't mind an easier game. I was kust kind of surprised because the enemies in specifically the first shrine were way harder than normal. But later on I am taking on three scorpions. That admittedly I kind of just lucked out on and killed 2/3 with Ronins instakill forcebreak.
>>477036780Are they blue when you're facing them? The difficulty of Nexus is about average more or less in comparison to the rest of the series. The side caves are balanced to be harder than the main labyrinths. The one thing that Nexus does do however is give you tons of exp so it's easy to accidentally get above the level curve. Making a second party or resting if FOEs are blue immediately upon finding them the first time can help.
>>477044315The aura thing? They're yellow. I wasn't too worried about exp since I did a rest recently. Though I might be risking it now sonce this morning I committed greedy lizard genocide. It's fin turns both into a new knife my Ninja desperately needed and medium armor that my entire front row uses.
Hi etriams, I did an item dupe focused run on classic untold 1 and it was surprisingly fun and I recommend doing a full run once if you want to try something stupid. I ran landy, dh, protector, survivalist and troubadour.Survivalist feels a lot more fun to use with the glitch and it really lives up to the name, cause I never had to rest unless for progression and I could tacke most things at significantly lower level than I had any right to. I honestly thought he'd just be the shittier medic, but he was the MVP of the group instead. Obviously getting Formaldehyde weapons early on a regular ng was my main reason to do this run and they didn't disappoint. Especially Meteor Axe after eating shit on Golem for longer than I dare to admit.What's my punishment for cheating /eog/?
>>477049870>What's my punishment for cheating /eog/?Next Stage delayed for the Switch 3
>>477049870>Survivalist feels a lot more fun to use with the glitch and it really lives up to the name, cause I never had to rest unless for progression and I could tacke most things at significantly lower level than I had any right to. I honestly thought he'd just be the shittier medic, but he was the MVP of the group instead.Unironically that sounds funner than playing legitimately
>>477050338Fuck, should've known better>>477051791It is fun, but keep in mind, you survive on items and when you're full from materials you still need to go back to sell from time to time. Formaldehyde weapons need a lot of money so it's less ideal to just throw shit away.
FURINKAZAN
This series is too good to just let it die. We need 6, Atlus.
>>477060217>3 games on ds>5 games on 3ds (9 if you count Persona Q and the mystery dungeon games)>nothing but some ports in the past 6 yearsReally weird for them to go from going hard to going silent.
>>477066015Not really that surprising, kind of hard to make games on the cheap for weak sub-SD handhelds when those no longer exist
>>477066015The 3DS died and Persona 5 blew up in popularity. I don't know how sales of V, Nexus, and the hd collection did but hopefully they can allocate a small budget for their main niche series sometime soon. Atlus doesn't seem to think it's their third pillar but I think it is.
Need a princess gf
>>477067434Personas has been since 3, before Etrian even existed. And despite that it's still been 9 years since Persona 5. More time has passed between now and P5 than P4 and P5
>>477071107I know it was popular before 5 but 5 caused a much larger spike than the previous two games. I don't care if Persona is their main cash cow but it wouldn't kill them to let the SMT/Etrian team make a new Etrian already. They have enough money to throw around for garbage like Soul Hackers 2 for example (which I think nobody was asking for).
>>477071980It's weird because it feels like they are trying to chase their next persona by making a bunch of low quality not-persona games like Soul Hackers and Re Phantasio, rather than just make Persona 6 already and get it out of the way so we can Etriam
>>477073695I think it's different team that does Persona and it's probably actually SMTV and now VV that is taking up the staff that would make EO6. This is still why I think it's possible that we'll finally get an announcement after VV is out.
>>477066015Not really. It makes perfect sense. The series flourished on the DS family of systems, and is suffering without them. The whole point was to map the dungeon on the second screen, which was intuitive with a stylus and built-in touch screen. On PC and Switch, it feels so unnatural mapping. If someone (somehow) wasn't familiar with the series, a valid complaint they might have is 'why is this clunky mapping system shoehorned into the game?'. And the answer is that it used to work on the devices they were made for. Those devices, however, are no longer supported. As I said before, EO died with the (3)DS.
>>477075092Controller mapping feels fine and the hd collection proved that the series can continue even without dual screens.
>>477067835All of them activate my breeding instincts
>>477075092>On PC and Switch, it feels so unnatural mapping.Can't vouch for the HD remakes or consoles, but as someone who started on an emulator mouse controls for mapping is fine. It's just like MS Paint.
>>477074435I don't want SMT though, I want Etriam
>>477075791>>477076768I hope Atlus makes a sixth main entry game for you guys. But I got a team to level 12 in EO1HD on Switch before not touching it since a week after launch. It's too clunky for me, now. In a way that affects my enjoyment of the games. I don't want to touch my Switch screen with my fingers. And you can't adjust FOV (as far as I remember) to keep the map out at all times. This last thing is just nitpicking from me. But unless they radically change the series around the fact that they can't use the DS to utilize DS-dependent games, I likely won't be playing EOVI. ...I'll still buy it. I sort of have to at this point, considering I own all the others. The only condition is if it's an eshop exclusive, and I can't purchase something to put on the shelf... that's a deal-breaker for me.If it works for some people, then good for them. Good for (you). But it doesn't work for me, in its current state. :(
>>477078563I've put a lot of time into all three of the games (mostly 3 and 2) since the hd collection released and it's probably one of my most played games on Switch at this point if you add all three play-times together. I also play a lot of action games and have good muscle memory so the mapping felt fine to me after an initial period of getting used to it. It's not quite as fast as a stylus but still good enough and with a few tweaks and improvements, it could be made even better. Mapping is an important part of the series but the games are good for much, much more than just the map drawing. It's still possible that the Switch successor could have some sort of second screen but even if it doesn't, I still want it to continue on one screen.
>>477078563 I am sure it'll still be good blobber in it's own right. I don't really like famboying for series, I would never buy a game out of a sense of brand loyalty. Yet despite that, and despite knowing it probably won't be 100% what I want, if they were to make a new game I would make that rare mistake of preordering. Because no other game series has proven to be time and time again to be so consistently good in quality. Not even Dragon Quest, and that's a series I used to always praise for similar reasons.Yet I fully and 100% get what you are saying. Nothing beats laying in bed, drawing maps with the stylus. It is peak comfy. And nothing will replace that.
I deserve a buccaneer gf
>>477046452>YellowThat's your problem.Once you clear the first stratum, your party should be able to take out FOEs while they're still red. I usually fight each FOE as soon as I reach the end of the floor they appear on.
>>477042036(me)thus far, I like the game. It's a nice blobber with a simple, yet charming aesthetic. Aside from a wide selection of customization options for the look of your characters, I really like what I've seen so far of the skill-tree system. It seems like you could play with two (or more) of the same class, and they would play differently depending on how you spec into your skill trees.Also, I don't feel like there's a specific class that is 'a mandatory class'. No necessary healer, or tank means your free to experiment with the full roster of classes.Also, no random encounters. This is always a plus for me. And combat has an interesting action economy. Dungeon design makes use of its small footprint with locked doors, gate puzzles and shortcuts leading back to the entrance. And I like the limited light mechanic, allowing you to look at your map, but only if there's enough light to see it. The only complaint I have seems to be with translation? I've noticed a couple of grammatical errors that slipped through QA. But I've played entire jrpgs with messy machine translation, back when that was the only way to play some Japanese exclusive games. It's a bit early to be giving it a full review, but I thought I'd point out the things I liked, incase anyone else here is thinking of trying it. Sorry for the blog-post.
etriam but Puroresu
>>477116960Perfect Hoplite girl
>>477116960
>>477035286I'm playing 2 now and its okay but I wouldnt call it EO good
>>477076098I sometimes run the middle one as a girl.
>>477106421what are the class options?
>>477117092What's the verdict /eog/?In 6, assuming it ever comes out, will we be getting more based portraits like boob zodi or are we going back to loli supremacy with a few taller girls like before?
>>477119440I enjoy both tittymonsters and cunny.
>>477119440both would be fine, but if I had to pick I think it'll be 70/30 loli to boobaI actually realized my EO3 team had no booba the other day unless I tell myself the hoplite is secretly stacked under the armor
>>47712161450:20:30 loli to tall to thick would be my ideal ratio with a healthy base of cute and a non-overwhelming but still solid amount of sexy to keep it exciting i guess. i hope Himukai draws more hips too, though i feel like i'm already hoping for too much
if nothing else EO3 is breaking my of my "keep all the xp the same" tism by force, damn ocean bosses
speaking of EO3, how important is armor there? I'm pretty behind in upgrading mine, though I'm only on the second stratum
>>477100214The FOEs have never been red, even the first ones. I usually just fight them the second I see them.
>>477124463>He doesn't rest his entire party everytime he finishes a sea questngmi
Does anyone know any workaround on that DS EO3 romhack on hardware? Shit it's so obscure that twilight menu can't run it without crashing at random in battles. Can play it on the phone but it sucks balls without controls and proper map and pen work
>check the EOX overhaul + class mod>zip download on version .20>.23 only have source codeHelp? I don't know how to compile shit.
>>477124463I never had that autism to begin with, probably because the first EO I played was 3
>>477125281Not very important, it's something like 3 points of DEF to 1 point of reduction>>477130896I think I got it to work once by playing on TWLoader instead with a DS cart inserted in the 3DS>>477133068The "source code" contains the same files, just follow the installation instructions
>>477119440I only use loli/flat/small chested girls in this series and that's all I want for 6. Realistically though, there would presumably be a balance of body types as much as I'd like for it be only loli. I'm more worried about it leaning towards titty monsters though. I'm not worried about mapping but my main fear for 6 is that there won't be enough portraits suited to my taste. I need enough to form a full party of five but really there should be more than that so I have some options. >>477125281Armor that has either physical or elemental resistance icons is usually good.
>>477125281HP>def is the way.As >>477142736 this anon says, your def is divided by 3 in calculations against the enemy attack. If you want to reduce damage, invest in HP mainly and VIT secondarily. Def will just accumulate naturally as you upgrade armors. Also equipment that gives stats or has special properties like status or bind resistance is usually way better value than the one that only has high def, but nothing else.
>>477126693Then you're overleveled. The first time you meet any new FOE, it should have a red aura.>>477125281Def is a scam. Any armor that doesn't have bonus effects is trash, don't waste your money on it.
>>477152837>If you want to reduce damage, invest in HP mainly and VIT secondarilyI get that each 3 def = -1 damage taken, but how does vit work exactly? does it directly reduce damage too?
>>477160426Attacker's STR and defender's VIT together make a modifier for the base damage value derived from attacker ATK and defender DEF during damage calc.I'm not very good at explaining nerd shit, but here: (aATK-dDEF)*sqr(aSTR÷dVIT) monster attack is its STR*3, while character DEF is divided by 3, modifier makers are left as is. There's more to it, but if you scour gamefags, you'll find it probably a lot cleaner than this.Point is, HP is king.
I'm playing EO3, it's my second ever Etrian game after EO1 and I wanna try a chase-heavy team because of how much I enjoyed links in Persona Q1/2 (I know links and chases are slightly different from each other though). I just beat Ketos and unlocked subclassing and I wanna know how good a thrust-only chase team would be, utilizing a ninja, arbalist, hoplite, prince etc. all classes with pierce weapons/skills. I get that a single enemy or boss that resists physical would annihilate me, would oils or prince's weapon buffs help mitigate that?
CHAIN KILLER
>>477160426>how does vit work exactly? does it directly reduce damage too?Yes that's all Vit does, and a point of Vit is worth a lot more than a point of Def, however that should be expected. Whats frustrating is that the "Def" value shown in your character status screen is complete bullshit. Just to be clear, when people talk about Def EO, they are usually referring to the total of all the Def values on each piece of the characters equipment, and NOT the "Def" value shown in the character's status screen. The "Def" value shown there is a function based off of your Def and Vit values, but its not used in damage calculation at all. It is SUPPOSED to be a simple value for telling how bulky your character is at a glance, so that you can just look at one value instead of two that you have to then put into a formula. Unfortunately, the value shown is a garbage approximation of that, it undervalues Vit by a LOT. According to that "Def" value, an early game helmet with 10 Def will reduce damage more than a +5Vit accessory, but a simple glance at their prices should be enough to tell you how wrong that approximation is. The same is also true for the "Atk" value shown as well, a point of Str is worth far more than a point of Atk on your weapon than the value shown will have you believe (however this won't cause you to make incorrect buying decisions so we only ever complain about the "Def" value). From what I hear, they did finally fix this issue in EOV, so you can trust the values shown in that and Nexus, but just ignore it in every other game.Anyway, the best way to reduce damage, is resistance to the relevant damage type. One box each of slash, pierce, and bash resistance will do more to reduce phys damage than any amount of Def or Vit that you can ever get on a single piece of equipment.
Okay so i installed the nexus mod for class overhaul and buccaneers and Alchemists but I don't see the classes.
>>477159128>Then you're overleveledThat's very unfortunate, then I've been overleveled since even the first area. Strange too since in the Eastern shrine I pretty much rushed to the boss because of a reset, and I still run from most encounters. What is a more appropriate level anyway? My party is level 30/31, and I am halfway through the Southern Shrine. After beating the catfish, I think 3 has the best soundtrack. I really like the boss theme. Maybe after I beat Nexus I should give 3 a try.
>>477176902hold select while turning on the 3ds and see if game patching is enabled. if that's not it, make sure you've set up the folders correctly
>>477118031>Warrior>Knight>Cleric>Shaman>Ranger>Rogue>Wizard>SorcererRaces:>Orc>Wood Elf>Gnome>Dark Elf>Goblin>Dwarf>HumanRace is entirely aesthetic, as far as I can tell. Class determines your Skill Trees, but NOT what weapons and armor you can equip. So... you could make a wizard. Put him in platemail, give him a zweihander, and have him be your tank. The skill trees provide bonuses for using weapons that would make sense. So, for example, you deal X% more magic damage, but only if you're equipped with a staff or rod. So the game doesn't outright tell you what you can and can't equip, but rewards you with skills that work for the classic theme of the class.
>>477164105>would oils or prince's weapon buffs help mitigate that?It would, since it affects both normal attacks and weapon chases iirc. If you wanted an optimal Chaser team, you could wait a bit and use Shogun instead
>>477187745Cute glasses.
>All the nuZodiac fanart gives her a decent height instead of making her a potato tittymonster like she looks ingame.dang
>>477164105Forge Fire, Ice or Volt in all of the slots of your chaser's weapons. Its a bit stronger than Atk forges in this instance.
I don't care if she is a slut I want a buccaneer gf
>>477200128Are you prepared to lose your booty to her?
>>477201263100%
which odyssey are you guys currently on
So I'm confused about the addition of the buccaneers. They are chasers, right. But what's the difference between them and Landsknecht? Talking about the nexus overhaul BTW. Alchemists I get because front magic users.
>>476956571>>476966868>>476958791She's not even the actual mascot of 4 she shares that spot with Flatress
>>477206238replaying the remasters on steam when I get kinda bored of one a switch to the other. So far 3 is my favorite and I really want to fuck the princess and buccaneer
>>477207546>So far 3 is my favorite and I really want to fuck the princess and buccaneersame but arbalest and monk
>>477206361Links are like, you pick a target and every attack on that target can lead into a follow-up.Chases are, if someone else in the party does a specific type of damage, it can lead to a follow up
>3DS on the verge of death>Want to play V>2nd hand copies go for over $100man I hope they get a HD port for the later games too
>>477216824Just hack it
I managed to beat the final boss of IV. My team was F/L, I/R, N/A, A/M, and R/D. I think I shall try the postgame.
>>477219156post em
How long does it take you to beat an EO game both in terms of IRL and in-game time?
>>477228031I'll let you know when I beat one
>>477228031I've never beaten an EO game, and I've played them all except 3
>>477222448They were all the deadpan lolis except Logre.
>>477228031Irl about 100 hours, in game never kept track
wish here design was available for the party members
pew pew
>>477236691The fact that we can't use her is even worse
Is it worth retiring in EO3? I was thinking of doing so just the once with my main squad when they hit 30 as I have some skill points I've spent poorly anyway
>>477249874not really, you can beat the superboss with cheese instead of going through many hours of grinding back. if you want to swap to an unlocked class it could be worth it by using the increased experience gain from picnic mode, but generally there's not a good reason to bother in eo3
What accent are the town NPCs in 4 supposed to have? Are they all Canadians?
>>477119440Whats really important is that we have plenty of midriff
>>477252342>you can beat the superboss with cheeseyou don't actually do that, do you anon?you actually try and properly beat the game, don't you anon?
>>477185430Thank you, I'll go through with it then. >you could wait a bit and use Shogun insteadI know about the extra classes and route split but I don't know who I'm going to side with yet. I can always just rest someone to become a Shogun.>>477195495>Its a bit stronger than Atk forges in this instance.Noted, I used elemental forges against Ketos and they seemed to work well.
>>477260041this isn't a flexing contest, i'm saying that if someone is going to the trouble of grinding to beat the superboss more easily they could just spend way less time cheesing it down instead so there's practically no good reason to grind that much
>>477264369Fire/Ice/Volt forges are better for auto attacks and chasers.Tec attackers so Zodiacs and Yggdroid bots use Tec forges until you start reaching the cap, after that, you're free to use anything else.Atk forges are the generically applicable choice for damage dealers.I'm not sure what Snipe/Sharpshooter prefer because those moves are weird.forges don't matter that much for other classes.
>>477256139'Straya, m8
>>477264542Postgame is designed by and for the mentally insane.Cheesing postgame beats the entire point of playing postgame at all.
>>477259024Undeniable
>>477216824Just pirate you retard. The 3ds is officially dead, same with sales on games. All you're doing is paying scalpers to help themselves
>10
>Journos are rumoring a new persona to be announced on June 8th>They don't know it'll actually be a new Etrian
>>477300529>announcing new purse owner before the dlc for the last one is releasedNot happening
I cant see the page number anymore caise im out and drunk but i want to help the general stay up pls post cutes
>>477252342>>477260041>>477264542>>477265182Stats don't matter that much in EO3. You can beat the superboss without cheese with a level 50 party if you know the game well enough.
>>477308009but what if I don't know the game well because I don't look up guides, since that defeats the point of playing the game?
>>477308654I beat Abyssal God at 70 something without looking up guides
>>477308654ebin
>>477308654just play the game to learn it well, you don't need a guide to learn a game, just fucking play it.
>>477308654>implyingsad post.
>you have to read a guide to realise that full blocking all damage on your party is broken
>>477307268>pls post cutes
>>477312402EOV is the best one, can't believe it took em 5 games to introduce different races to a dungeon crawler franchise.
>>477314836But anon, we've had beasts since 2.
>>477314836>5 gamesWrong!4 had Races as well they were just class locked.
>>477315173you could argue yggdroid is more of a race than a class, considering you can't subclass anything into an yggdroid
>>477308009would you really just go on the internet and gaslight like that? of course stats matter a lot in eo3
>>477318897go read a guide if you don't understand the game, apparently that's the only way
>>477312402>>477314836>>477315173>>477318779Bless
>>477318897>>477319270>not picking classes entirely off of aesthetics, and who are the cutest 5 of the title>not dumping skill points in the coolest sounding abilities without reading any descriptions>not challenging every FOE the first time you meat it, because 'nah, I'd win.'ngmi
>>477331647>meat it
>>477332465sorry, my misteak.
>>477331647it's not like reading the descriptions tells you much anyway
any day now...
>Etrian Next Stage releases>They listened to the schizos that hate 2 Untold/4/5>No races, even the other classes are humans only>No second name or similar system, not even subclasses to appease the hardcorefags>Story is even more barebones than usual>Several other mechanics removed so the schizos are satedYou rike?
>>477335963I mean I would probably still enjoy it okay
>>477335963As long as I can import portraits from previous games I will be satisfied. So that I can keep using my SEXO portraits.
>tfw floor 30 of EOUDodging the depth dancers is cancer but doable, what the fuck are you supposed to do about that tortoise in the bottom right though? The random encounters here are also insane and my team can't shut them down easily.
>>477314930>>477315173Not that anon, but that's obviously not what he meant by races. He meant the game mechanic of being able to assign different races to each character in addition to their class for further party customization. It's a pretty standard game mechanic for dungeon crawlers that was present in Wizardry 1.
>>477340135It was worse in the original, be thankful you can tell where everything is.
>>477335963>schizos that hate 2 Untold/4/5Having legitimate criticisms for these games makes people a schizo? Or are you just trying to incite a flamewar like usual?>no I actually do want my EO to be piss easy, have terrible anime stories that are poorly localised and are full of dull cliches, give me shitty gacha mechanics, oh I also want a bunch of content locked behind DLC and story mode, squeeze me dry daddy Atlus ohhhhh fuckYou don't get to call people a schizo just because you get mad at their opinion, schizo.
>>4773433295ch isn't going to suck your dick for repeating their shit over and over bro.
>>477343329continuing to obsess over the same shit infinitely and responding to people who aren't even defending the untold story modes with "squeeze me dry daddy Atlus" does, in fact, label you as a schizo. your reactions are unwarranted and overblown, please be rational
>>477343550If it wasn't for us then just like SMT they would've wasted time and money developing a shitty gacha for you people who would just eat that shit up because apparently you aren't allowed to criticise new games. In fact maybe that's in part why we never got Next Stage.>>477344086>continuing to obsessI never brought it up.>responding to people who aren't even defending the untold story modesthey said 'Story is even more barebones than usual' as if slice of life anime filler would be preferable. Less is more.>does, in fact, label you as a schizo.Nope, you're just using it as a generic insult for someone that is actually passionate about these games. Schizo-adjacent behaviour is bringing up 'schizos that hate 2 Untold/4/5' out of nowhere like this >>477335963 then pretending like that defending that point of view is unwarranted and overblown. Let me guess, you're a /v/ermin and 'schizo' is just common vernacular that you use every single day, so it's lost all meaning for you.>rationalRight, like inciting a flamewar out of nowhere? Insulting people for no reason? Please be rational.
>>477345107>I actually attracted a schizo with that initial postI don't even play story mode in 2 untold man I play Classic.
>>477345238At least you admit it was bait.
>>477345285>Doesn't remember the 5ch schizoposts about how much they hate the story post EO2I never said I wanted story mode schizoposter, where in my original post did I say that?Jesus you retards are sensitive.
>>477343329>Gets mad at someone for loosely implying that he's a schizo.>Proceeds to act like a schizo.
>>477346090If it walks like a duck...
>>477345107i didn't read all that shit but no one called you a schizo in the first place, they just referred to the subset of people who dislike eou and eo2u who are schizos. you getting triggered over that makes you a schizo. qed
>schizos?!? where?! raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
>>477346706I was specifically referring to the people who outright lied about DLC stuff from untold 2 and also act like everything past 2 killed the franchise with them barely tolerating 3 on a good day.Someone posted a whole copypasta from those dudes before but I've lost it since it was a few threads (months) ago.
is the booru still down?
>>477347924>Translation so shit she sometimes slips back into perfect (whatever language the region is meant to have) even though she's meant to have stilted speechThanks Atlus I hate it.
>>477345471>>Doesn't remember the 5ch schizopostsStop saying schizo if you don't know what it means. Jesus christ did I accidentally click on /v/ today? You act like being passionate about a series you love is a bad thing, or that it means you can't criticise bad practices.>I wanted story mode schizoposterSo you're fine with content locked behind story mode? That's the only thing I mentioned with regards to that specifically.>Jesus you retards are sensitive.And you retards are inflammatory and the ones posting bait in the first place. You literally ask for this then cry when it happens.>>477346090>Post inflammatory bait>be surprised that in a general for the series, someone is passionate about it>insult them because they love the series more than you>>477346706>i didn't read all that shittypical shitposting tourist. Why are you even here?> no one called you a schizo in the first placeWhat is this then: >>477344086This is the first time that I've talked about this topic for more than a year yet people are saying that I'm 'continuing to obsess over the same shit infinitely'.In fact, that's a pretty notable statement. That person thinks I 'obsess over the same shit infinitely'. That's pretty 'schizo' behaviour, in your definition of the word.People just like to imagine that I'm mad and therefore actually a schizo or some shit cause it pleases their made up fantasies.>>477347174>believes random copypastas>psychoanalyzes entire communities based off thisLOL.
>>477348273I'm only one of those posts you quoted, I think maybe you should calm down and not text block while seething.
>>477348434If I post each reply separately then people might accidentally think that this general is alive.
>>477348523Fair enough I guess.
this ones going on the fridgeI got the booru to work.
>>477335963>schizos that hate 2 Untold/4/5This can be interpreted a couple ways. I can see it to mean 'people that hate those games are schizos' or 'there are particular schizos that hate those games'.English is pretty shit sometimes.
>>477349275Yeah I agree. Given his later replies, it has become clear that he meant the latter, however it's unfair to criticize someone for assuming he meant the former based only off of that initial post.However I DO think it's fair to criticize someone for having a schizo meltdown and for flaming 10 times harder than the person he is accusing of flaming. Fucking LOL.
So what is the generous consensus on the Shrines? I am enjoying them mostly them, I like the wall climb puzzle, but I feel they overstay their welcome. Like I know 5 floors is the standard, and usually I don't mind, but here I feel it overstays its welcome. Not sure why.
>>477354440really annoying. on their own they wouldn't be so bad, but the repeated design for so many floors is trash, lack of fresh gimmicks in them (there are gimmicks but not enough) sucks, and they are not a breath of fresh air when the rest of the game is full of first and second strata that are more basic
>>477354763I know it was just last game but them not grabbing the 3rd or 5th stratums from EO5 for Nexus kills me every time, especially considering how much 3 floored me the first time I got there due to how different it was tone and music wise compared to everything else in EO so far.
Need medic sex
>>477355170I was hyped how they were going to acknowledge 5 when I heard the flying squirrel and weed enemies were in Nexus. I was then dissapointed to learn they just got shoved into the shrines. I know they probably wanted to avoid spoilers from their latest game, but still. I feel like they could've taken more from it.Also, well I am not exactly begging for edge, I can't help but think that if I was playing any other EO, atleast some of the NPCs I've met would've died by now. Even the portraitless unnamed injured guard lived from being mauled by berserker king, twice. Or that the Hoptlite chick would've died to give the brown guy a reason to absolutely hate stalk the party.
>>477355170the stratum 3 and 5 themes from eo5 are some of the best songs in the series
>years later and still no EO successors
A reminder that bnnuy sexo almost made it into nexus, meaning that elves, potatoes, and sexo made it off of mars. Maybe even lizards and Oni people too.
whats a good level to be taking on ketos
>>47736042310 if you want to be absolutely sure. 8 if you got a decent team with AoE attacks.
>>477360504buddy he said ketos
>>477360504wait a minute
>>477360423nevermind I got him
>>477345107>>477348273It doesn't have to be all or nothing. You won't believe this, but hear me out. You CAN like a thing overall, even though you don't like parts of it and/or it has flaws.Throwing out every single idea from 4 to Nexus, because a few seethe about anime and being easy is the peak of retarded. Flamewars were not incited and there was no bait. You started incoherently malding because someone voiced his dissatisfaction with the amount of people who believe you should throw the entire fridge away, because a carton of milk went bad in it once or twice. I'm genuinely sorry, but this is textbook schizo behavior.
damn, didnt know edie's younger sister was cutegives missy a run for her money
>>477366310I do like the games though, are you the schizo for randomly thinking I hate them just because of the criticism? Curious. Your condescending tone belies your profound retardation, lmfao.>maldingI do hate zoomers though, begone.
So what is your ideal EO: Next Stage?
>maldingoh no, it's incurable
>>477373147I never said it was you who dislikes the games, it's your whole attitude about believing that people who like them are excusing their faults. Somehow this windmill battle in your head angers you so much, that you wrote 2 essays about it. Just now, you believe that I was attacking your very being when I dared to try to have a discussion and immediately started seething from your perceived morally superior position. You're being narcissistic as fuck. Have a look in the mirror.
>>477370462And she has a nice outfit for sideboobjob
>>477374281I understand those words separately. You can't just compoundword whatever you want, or I'd be brainskullfucking my corpsegirlfriendtrophy.
>>477374081>Have a look in the mirror.Woah wtf, god damn I'm handsome. I'm so glad I'm not a zoomer. That broccoli hair shit looks terrible.
>>477374378>he isn't brainskullfucking his corpsegirlfriendtrophylol gay
>>477373249Honestly V but better
>>477374456You are unsalvageable. I'm not a zoomer btw, but continue believing that if it makes you feel better. [Spoiler]i just spend a lot of time with discord zoomers irl[/spoiler]
kek
its over
I'd rather be a phonefag than using my pc for 4chan
People wonder why I don't respect them or their opinion
bump!
After I finish/get bored of/stop playing Nexus, should I move on to 3 or 5? I obviously still want to beat Nexus, and I am enjoying it. But playing this gake that is mostly references makes me want to try the games it's referencing.I know the other games are good too, but I like the ocean and space. No I do not care about old jank in videogames.
>>477379391Both 3 and 5 are pretty good to me. I prefer 5 a little because I like the class there and specializations over subclassing, but its a close race.
>All of this kicking and screaming over pointless bullshitReally?
>>477379391Can't go wrong with either. If it helps: 5 is less mechanically, but more visually similar to Nexus. If burnout can be an issue, pick the one you think would feel more fresh. Or just check out the portraits and classes and pick whatever roster you like more if you can't decide.
>>477380579>>477381750Well I want to play 3 because I've always had a distant infatuation with it since I was young. Granted back then I only played the first few floors, but something about the game artistically capture me. Maybe it's because the ocean theme it goes for is very beautiful, or maybe it's because it feels like most of the classes try to fit themselves into that ocean theming. But I do know, when I fought the catfish in Nexus, something awakened in me again to want to play it.But at the same time I have sort of have a grudge match for 5. When I first tried the game 8 or so years ago, I got to the second stratum boss and then got walled. I know if I were to replay now, I could pwn him. Plus I kind of want to spite my brother by using specializations he doesn't like. Or atleast 2/3s of them. Necromancer might be the only class he truly think is fundamentally bad. But I would be lying if I pretended it paired well with Rover and Omnimancer. Plus I wanted to run Fencer and I heard mecros don't pair well with fencer.
>>477385321fencers should team okay with necros, though I've only used them as chainers
>>477385620I thought none of their attacks chained as well off of compared to persay, Masuro or or Rover? And that they don't synergize well with anyone
>>477389179you've still got 3 other members to chain off and necro can run the defense once its got bulky enough ghosts to make fierce shield worthwhile they dont provide direct support to fencers but they dont actively clash the way they do with say rovers
>>477385321Necromancers are an all or nothing class imo. You either go full retard and break the game with them or you don't bother.
>>477389179I used a necromancer in a chain party and they worked well with fire and ice bombs. For volt chains you just do imbued normal attacks via shaman buff. Necromancer synergizes well enough with most classes except rovers and dragoons that use bunkers. Rovers need at least one summon slot but dragoons can be built without bunkers. Dragoons' dragon roar synergizes very well with necros' grave skill because you know the counter target is going to be attacked. Auto roar plus grave will delete random encounter extremely well. Grave in general is fantastic with wraith mastery maxed out. Good damage, ranged, unlimited counters, and paralysis that's basically guaranteed. Because of that you can also use chain killer well with it. Necros defense debuff is also good and will help everyones damage.
>>477398590no its just necromancers
June will be the day bros. I can feel it in my bones
>>477408061Schizophrenia
COCK
no, I am the schizo
bump bfore bed
aminal
>want to play the EO3 mods on my 3ds>anti piracy shenanigans >crashes at random in battle or using cross Slash and suchWhyyy Jesus,WHYYYY
this thing
>>477449812remove fang
>>477451676Do you have a folder of edited fang pics or do you make a new one each time?
So if I learn hypnosis I can be a hexer irl?
>>477452936new every timeafter posting it I instantly delete it
>>477454031You just need to tell people to kill themselves which is what most 4chan users do already. That's all hexer is, she just verbally shitposts monsters.
>>477454031You forgot about being a little girl that walks around wearing only a ragged robe.
>>477454360You may de-fang fang but you will never de-fang her spirit.
>>477454710remove fang
>>477455347She infected her girlfriend with it too.
i got a 3ds. what etrian game should i play first? I just want a comfy dungeon game and etrian fits that pretty well.
>>477456840If you're not considering the DS games then play IV. If you're considering the DS games play III
>>477456983alright thank you o/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r3V720qe4w
>>477456840You should start from the start. That's why they call it the start.
I started the Hall of Darkness for the first time. Why do people say IV is the easiest again?
>>477466343Because 4 is the easiest, hall of darkness is just the most cancer 6th stratum outside of EO1.I enjoy it but the place kicks your shit in.
>>477466343Even if postgame was the only measure of difficulty, EO4 is pretty weak overall. My theory is that the main game is so piss easy that the postgame slaps unprepared people in the face, so it appears relatively difficult. Realistically though, the postgame bosses are a joke and the dungeon puzzles are pretty babby tier.>but muh statues
>>477466343Because people like to regurgitate things endlessly. I really don't think 4 is all that much easier than the rest of the series. It's not the hardest but it's still challenging enough to be engaging and it remains as one of my favorites.
>>477467770>>477471917I thought Golden Lair was challenging to navigate, but then again I have a poor sense of direction.
>>477473901Understandable, because it has multiple entrances and different states. However, the longer you spend in a dungeon, the more overlevelled you get, so the fights aren't as hard.
>>477476664alice sexo
https://youtu.be/FKYNfVyvh1s?si=IN1v3-JoyhNmlozqThe yuri drpg is releasing on the 24th.What do we think about it, etriambros?
>>477478161The yuri aspect is certainly interesting and I'm curious to hear how that works out, but I'm not really interested in a DRPG having romance events be they yuri or otherwise. I feel like it would just get in the way of the core gameplay loop. Its part of the reason why I still haven't gotten around to trying out any of the Persona games.If it gets good a reception here, I might check it out though.Do we know what the price is gonna be yet?
>>477466821Hall of Darkness is much nicer than Forbidden Wood with it's warp maze and invisible FOEs. The trap formations are simply that, traps you can run away from.
>>477471917Yeah, 4 is definitely on the easier side but I don't think that the gap between 3, 4 and Nexus is that big.I believe it's a combination of many players not touching the game for decades and thinking that 4 is any different from many of the other games where you can build a team that can effortlessly crush bosses.The biggest culprit is probably the fact that it was the first game where they put in a serious effort in class design so we don't have any outright bad/counterintuitive classes like the older ones.
Will Sentinel Guard become good once my party gets to a higher level and the DEF gap between Bert and the rest of them gets bigger, or will that skill always be garbage?Seriously, what the fuck should I invest my SP in now that I got front guard at 9, all the element walls to 4, parry maxed out, and a few points in mine? Does 2U protector really have nothing better to invest in than stat up passives at level fucking 40?
>>477484251Shield Smite / Rush ain't that bad
>>477484251Sentinel Guard is a kind of cool skill, but needs a bit of investment. It transfers all defensive and ailment/bind resistance effects on the user to your allies, including from passives, buffs, and equipment, so it also improves as you level stuff like Phys DEF Up. The drawback makes it a bit tricky to use but you can still Force Break afterwards so there's that
>>477484251The skill carried me through juggernaut because I was too retarded to figure out his gimmickI don't remember if I ever really used it in other fights
>>477476664>>477477805unfathomable based taste
>>477478161If it gets a mod to have straight stuff instead of yuri I'd give it a go for sure
>>477486918If I had a Sexer on my team I'd invest in Shield Smite, but I'm doing the story party so all I got is blind and paralysis, which means I can't really afford to let my protector stop doing his main job.>>477488653Oh shit really? I figured it was just DEF VIT and maybe TEC that got shared. I didn't think it would share passives and buffs, that's interesting. I suppose I could combo it with fortify or a stonard to good effect. Still though, that one turn penalty is pretty nasty. It really only seems like it would be worth casting on the turn before force break. I suppose I'll still pick the skill up because there's nothing better, but I'll put some points in elem def up first.>>477494396I don't think you need to put yourself down like that, I honestly don't know how anyone would figure that out without looking up juggernaut's behavior patterns online. My 2 classic mode teams really had trouble with juggernaut because I couldn't figure it out either. It was annoying how if you used panic or stun to prevent him from using his big attack he'd immediately use it anyway on the first turn he could after recovering. Only binds could get him to move on with his moveset after preventing him from using it.
>>477495985That wouldn't be as hard as you might think, in fact if you play it in Japanese (because the language doesn't have gendered pronouns) and pick your class portraits correctly, you might not have to do any modding at all.Warrior, Healer, Necro, and Digger can all easily pass for male just like EOIV landy or some of the troubadours (The alt portrait for Bird might work too, but admittedly that one's pushing it a bit). Just pair them up with the female portraits and use a little bit of your EO style imagination, and BAM, you got yourself a hetro relationship. 100% Fafnir approved.
>>477495985Insanely shit taste but just use your imagination and think of them as traps I guess.
>>477498926>Warrior, Healer, Necro, and Digger can all easily pass for male just like EOIV landy or some of the troubadoursah nice, I hadn't looked at the portraits too deeply>in fact if you play it in Japanese (because the language doesn't have gendered pronouns)unfortunately I dont speak moon
>>477478161It's going to be shit because it's releasing in Early Access
>>477495985gross
>>477515265elaborate
Is Efficiency on Survivalist worthwhile?
>>477522552In 1U it's fantasticIn 2U and Nexus it's just ok
what would be a balance, no hassle team for EOV? I started a new playthrough on my old 3ds and I just wanna turn my brain off while I draw maps.the only restriction I would have is to have a necromancer cuz shes pure sex.
>>477531923Impact Pugilist and Cannon Dragoon.The rest can be whatever you want.
>>477531923i played the cheesy necro. I had a 4sword, binder pug, cannon and a shaman
>>477498926I wouldn't say any of those "easily pass as males" at all. Are we looking at the same portraits? Also making your own headcanon isn't really great advice for this one. The game is trying to push the yuri angle hard and it's apparently even a mechanic. At this point it would just be delusional, the game is clearly aimed at people that like yuri or are at least neutral towards it. It would be like playing a harem game where all the girls clearly want MC-kun's dick and then trying to pretend they're actually all yuri for each other. >>477478161Eh, I don't know. Not enough loli portraits for one thing but maybe the final version would have more. I like yuri but I still don't think this looks too great. Then of course there's the question of how the combat is. A lot of DRPGs don't understand the idea of making fleshed out skill trees with more than like two skills in it.
>war magi tape their sword to their staff>still can't use war edge skills with a staff in 2
>>477545130>war magi can use swords and staffs>their portrait is clearly a spear but those didn't exist yet>in nexus they can't use spears because ???
>>477478161There isn't really much more information now than when they were still raising the money for it, so it's tough to say.I expect the relationship mechanics will be similar to Miitopia, where relationship events will happen every so often where the girls gain/lose points with each other, that will then affect combat in some form. They are going with the Etriam-like 5-girl party, which they acknowledged means that someone's probably gonna end up a fifth wheel to some extent; they did also suggest threesome relations were possible but very difficult to maintain, so who knows if that made it in. I will say that I'm not amused by the basic "creepy stone brick dungeon" setting, as we were discussing at the end of last thread, and the enemy design contrasts the girls quite a bit more than I'd prefer. I mean, there's contrast in Etriam, too, but not to the extent that your lolis look like they belong in a different game from what they're fighting. We can't judge much about combat or dungeon design from just trailers, which is unfortunate because those are quite important to the game actually being good.I'll play it, and I hope it will be decent, but I'm keeping my expectations measured.
>>477542254Are you really so autistic that you couldn't tell that I wasn't being completely serious with that post?Also, and I am being completely serious here, you can not tell me that healer isn't a boy. That character design just exudes big trap energy.
>>477553286Well you can't convey speaking tone too well in type so yeah, I thought it was serious. And no, I don't see cute healer girls in frilly dresses and immediately think they're traps. You might just be gay anon.
What's a good alternative to dragoon?
>>477556549For team durability improvement? Herbalist or Harbinger probably
Best ronin skills for the post-game of EOU? I went full on upper stance the entire game but I'm wondering if I should respec.
>>477556861Well for the most part. Trying to think of a hypothetical chain team with fencer, omnimancer, hawk rover, and probably shaman. And I am trying to think of a hypothetical last slot, hypothetically.
>>477556549Necromancer fierce shields are pretty good even if you don't do the zombie powder FOE gimmick (I never do).
>>477558236also for late game you have tombstone vicedon't need to block if the enemy can't fight back
>>477557425IIRC with U1 Ronin you either go with the traditional Upper unga bunga or build your party around Perfect Chaser
>>477558765>>477558236This, people always go for zombie powder (understandably) but tombstone vice is amazing, kept the superboss locked down the entire fight the last time I played.
>>477542254I think I read somewhere that all etriams are canonically androgynous and you can choose whatever gender you want, but I feel like I'm just making that up
>>477558190Why would you go with Omnimancer when you have a Shaman that can give your Elemancer Common Magic everytime you use Dance Oracle and also give your Elemancer an Elemental Prayer to destroy everything with Clever Strike?
>>477558236Can Necromancers be ran in the front row? Or is it better to run Shaman in the front row? Also will the rover pets cause the necromancer to screech autisticall
>>477560001I mostly want to run Omnimancer, Shaman is more or less the afterthought addition.
>>477559515even when it wears off you still have chain blast on top of it too since you don't really have much reason to race change. It's pretty silly just how much lock down you can get off a single character in V
I wish... EO would give me loot like Wizardry does. >WizardryKill some enemies in the dungeon and what's that? OH SHIT. New treasure chest just dropped. Got to check if it's trapped (it is), alright, now for the thief to use an OUT OF COMBAT skill to do something. Go on thief, do your thing. Aaaand, the trap's dismantled and we got a cool new sword, a potion, and some gold. >EOThis treasure chest is always here. So much so, that you should absolutely pop it on your map, because it'll be here next time in your new game+. Did you get it? Alright, no more treasure until the next box, two floors up. Instead gather monster parts so that the shop can sell them back to you as a MonHun crafted weapon with a mark-up. And yes, I loved EOV for having non-combat skills to invest in. They should keep doing that.
>>477561865always thought it was weird that treasure chests can be labelled but it's kinda useless because you already got the item and there's no reason to go back to the treasure casket.you get non-combat skills in the other EOs but no one invests in them because they're either worthless or better used in a dedicated farming party, or your skill points are better spent on combat skills than floor skills. Meanwhile Wizardry priests just get Calfo by default on level up, and it only costs a level 2 spell charge
>>477561865The loot all being in chests for EO makes sense considering how hard it leans on the map building but I do get the complaint.
>>477560360You don't want a necromancer and rover in the same party, I made that post before knowing you had a rover. Necromancers really need all 3 slots of the summon line to function right. They're pretty fragile and really should be in the back row unless you want their coffin attacks to not get the melee penalty but that's not too important for them.
>>477563595Oh, my apologies. I should've mentioned the archer tax.>>477561865>And yes, I loved EOV for having non-combat skills to invest in. They should keep doing that.Agreed.
>>477567265Pumpkin golem
>>477567990Nope, just Olympia.
>>477558190Harbinger for frigid reap and defensive ailments. I've never tried it but I hear masurao can also work on a chain team with armor pierce and bolt slash. However Dragoon is also a solid choice.>>477557425Stick with the Upper build, but a point or two into thunder stab. I remember there being a normal enemy that resisted everything except volt and that skill really helped. Although if you already have an alchemist then you don't need to bother.
>>477574110Could I swap Shaman for a Harbinger and run both it and Dragoon? Or am I spreading my heals too thin?
>>477574642Not that anon but you definitely want shaman in a chain party for their AOE attack that decreases elemental resistance.
>>477575151Alright fair point. Didn't even think of that. I was simply thinking buffs. Well I suppose a Celestrian wpuld be better than a Brouni.
>>477561865I'll admit that having a thief class that can disarm random chests is cool, but I do NOT want EO to have RNG treasure chests.One of the main things I like about EO is that it doesn't have any RNG bullshit. I absolutely love the conditional drop system of the later games. You have to figure out how to get your rare drops as opposed to other games where you just have to grind until you get lucky and roll that 5% for the item you want to show up. There is still a bit of RNG with the normal drops and gathering, but those drop rates are all reasonable. As long as you're not speed running, you'll get em all by the time your done with the stratum.This is why even though they fixed grimoires to be non-cancerous in 2U I still don't approve of them, because they're essentially RNG treasure.
>*unzips 2 cat*>"psssh... nothing personnel...">*becomes the only 100% Human in the series to get straight up murdered by the party.*What did they mean by this?
When you beat the fifth stratum boss, do you immediately move onto the next game, do some of the postgame, or clear all of the postgame before moving on?
>>477582531Clear all of the postgame before moving on
>>477582531I usually clear the sixth stratum, but I did story mode on the untolds and dropped them as soon as I got all the scenes.
>>477574642Yes, of course you can, the game isn't that hard, I didn't run a shaman on my chain team and they did fine. But yeah, if we're theory crafting here, not running a shaman isn't optimal.In addition to the loss of shamen, there is also the loss of chain synergy by running two classes that can only contribute to chains situationally and never at the same time.Also, if you need more heals, you can consider swapping to dog rover.>>477575960Nah keep the Brouni for variety. Dance Oracle will do more damage with a celestrian but not that much, you're mainly using it for the one turn debuff not the initial damage (Mana Oracle however will do a lot more damage, but even then dance is still the better skill for a chain team so it doesn't matter). The extra luck for ailment resistance is pretty nice though. The Brouni however is a lot less frail and has herbology which is always useful. All in all, I'd say celestrian is probably still better but not by enough to worth the aesthetic loss of having to use a generic race portrait instead of a proper brouni shaman portrait.
>>477584802In addition to what you said about Brouni vs. Celestrian, he already has one celestrian for their union skills but would have no way to get the brouni ones if he switched.
>>477584802> but not by enough to worth the aesthetic loss of having to use a generic race portrait instead of a proper brouni shaman portrait.Fair enough, have to respect the portrait. Eitherway, you sold me on Shaman. Not just because of how good it is, but also because I want to use Hawk over Hound. Leads better off links, and it matches the portrait.Semi-related, I heard Phantom synergizes well with Chain Fencer. But from every run I've used it, it's pretty miserable. Is it worth the headache over just sucking up and using Dragoon?
>>477586261I used dragoon in a chain party thinking I'd set up buster cannon to fire off on the chain turn but it generally didn't work out since using move breaks the charge, and the clever strike warlock liked to dance back and forth for the chain turn. That said shields are still nice for when you aren't chaining.
>>477560001Omni and Elemancer are about even with each other in the long run, but Elemancer is stronger in the short term. What's really abusable about Elemancer is that Multistrike Ether allows you to fish for Windstorm's side effect on each hit and since Reserve Magic exists, you don't have to worry about it breaking chain.
>>477586261Make sure you get Ice Peck on rover. It'll procure two ice chains since it's two separate attacks: an ice aoe and stab aoe. With Chain All active that means two fencer follow-ups on a whole group of enemies. It's fantastic for the super boss and works even better with Hell Slash. Give your Shaman a bow too so their normal attacks can always give an easy chain for any element.
>>477595165Ah yeah, good idea. Love me some ice coverage. Especially since I heard Omnimancer is better spent maxing like 2 elements, and ice might get the short end of the stick.
>>477585214Yeah but the Brouni union skills all suck. Aegis shield is the only one with any use and thats only for when youre facing the superboss (in pretty much any other situation the Therian level 5 union is better because it comes with some damage) and even then its not mandatory.>>477586261Whoops, I completely forgot about phantom fencer, yeah they're also a great option, although I haven't actually tried the combo out yet. They should be able to trigger 2 chains per turn pretty frequently. The secret to making phantom fencers good is to not treat them like tanks.>>477587783Yeah, at the end of the day dragoon can't really contribute much to chain parties. They're just there to do their normal job of reducing damage. Buster cannon is nice and all, but unless theyre on a double dragoon party their main focus should still be damage reduction and not DPS. Honestly since he's running a 2/3 formation party I'd be tempted to recommend shield bearer dragoon.>>477597440Nah don't go wide like that, the EOV skill trees are way too hungry for that. Commit to ice on everyone, even the fencer doesn't want to fully max out all 3 chain element attacks.
>>477595165my god, why are these creatures just pure fucking sex.
Optimal 1 teamFront: 3 protectorsBack:medic and survivalist (can be replaced with a medic)
>>477601251>survivalist (can be replaced with a medic)But how would they survive without the survivalist?
>>477599745Aegis Shield and Hygeia Bowl have their use. The big unions in 5 are Black Mist and Chain Blast anyway.
>>477599745>Nah don't go wide like that, the EOV skill trees are way too hungry for that. Commit to ice on everyone, even the fencer doesn't want to fully max out all 3 chain element attacks.Oh shoot, for some reasom I thought chains worked like links, not chasers. Ok now that you mention it I'm going Ice/Stab to the moon.
>>477574110I have an alchemist so I'm fine there, how should I be building my alchemist anyway? I've built him to be maxxed out on all 3 solo-target element attacks.
>ye find yeself in yon dungeon>ye see a FLASK>Obvious exits are NORTH, SOUTH, and RICKY
optimal 2 teamfront: 3 war magesBack:2 gunners
>>4776112953 max loyalty beasts and 2 revenge hexers
>>477584426>but I did story mode on the untolds and dropped them as soon as I got all the scenes.oh so you beat ur-devil on the hardest difficulty? Nice job anon!
>>477604480Hygeia Bowl sucks, it sounds a lot better than it really is. The fact that you need to have 4 able bodied characters to use it, means that in most of the situations where you'd want to use it you can't.>>477604856I mean, do at least get the fire/volt chains, fireball and lightning to at least level 5 before you start going all in on ice.>>477605348Max analysis and then do whatever you want. Alchemist is pretty straight forward.Personally I like fireball, ice lance, and lightning more than the AOE skills. Ive never tried a pain formula build, but that could be fun. Even if you don't do that pain formula build still put one point into light formula and tincture for some situational use in the post game.
>>477609067>exit RICKY
>>477615589>cannot parse EXIT
I'm going to start EOV for the first time, but looking at the skill trees I'm having a hard time planning out my party. How is binding Pugilist, offensive Harbinger, shield Dragoon, hound Rover, and smoke Botanist? My idea is to boost Leading Blow and Frigid Reap with binds and ailments and have the Botanist and Rover share healing duty.My other idea is Dance Oracle-focused Shaman, Frigid Reap Harbinger, Warlock, smoke Botanist, and shield Dragoon.
>>477617686Both teams sound good, the first one doesn't really need a dragoon though, since it has so many binds and ailments, but there's nothing wrong with being extra defensive and running one anyway. However this is NOT the team you want to run shield dragoon on, do cannon instead.
>>477609067>Take FLASK>Empty FLASK onto RICKY>Examine RICKYHopefully now she wont be sticky.
>>477620373I figured I would need shield Dragoon for bind removal, since smoke Botanist can't do it.
>>477558190I did pretty much that team but with hound rover and the last slot was an identical chain fencer to the first onewas pretty fun and my rp was that the two fencers were rivals
>>477620651You can't just chain together commands. What do you think this is, Zork?>Stack Overflow>Syntax Errorsorry, chud. Your 4kb of RAM won't cut it.Go to notasketchywebsite<dot>fart to download some more.
wtf, I think I downloaded a viru
>>477621046I mean, bind removal is nice, but its not THAT useful. I'd say it's more useful for dragoon to be able to do a big attack instead of just having ded turns when the FOEs are bound or confused. Besides, they can't bind you if pug and rover bind them first.Although now that I think about it, I suppose you could just use shield throw for that purpose, even though its not as good.
>>477621752If I was trying to stack commands I would have written them all on the same line. Those were clearly 3 separate inputs with an implied wait for a response form the computer in between each of them. I didn't want to have to fill up this board with a bunch of /qst/ posts. Was it too much to ask for you to do each command in sequence until you either did them all or encountered an error?But FINE, I fucked it up anyway by not including a movement command after taking the flask.>Take FLASK
>>477626015You're gonna be real pissed with this one.>you cannot get ye FlaskI think you're missing the reference. Either because you're young or, like, reaaaal old.Original post is an (altered) copypasta from an old sbemail.Google: Strong Bad Email #94. The Brothers Chaps archived a lot of their flash animations on YouTube.
>>477626814Based ancientfag
everyone has a breaking point
>>477635123what do you think, /eog/?Is she returning from a journey, or leaving on one?It feels like she's leaving, for me.
>>477611881I might as well have, since you have to beat the elemental dragons for the last CGAnd I thought the Thunder DLC was the sweaty boss?
>>477635934leaving, has that "saying good bye to the home town/village/temple/whatever to go on an adventure" vibe
>>477612570Bowl can be situationally useful because there are times where you need the heal but can't afford to use your regular turns to get it off.
>>477635123>>477635934Well now that can't be, she's returning from spending the night with me.
>Finally finished Southern Shrine this morning>the boss was a joke.>kind of sick of shrines>5 large sized floors>also the raised platforms gimmick essentially doubled the density of each floor. >actually nevermind I am really sick of shrines>Next zone seems to be a cool cherry blossom forest>but it also still a forestI am enjoying this series, but it really could have more variety in its areas. Somehow the gloomy jungle is my favorite zone so far.
>>477641263>I am enjoying this series, but it really could have more variety in its areas.It usually does, but forests are a staple for early stratums, and nexus has all those early stratums bundled together.
>>477641578But why though? This would be like if Sonic decided to put Green Hill Zone, Emerald Hill, and Angel Island all in the same game, then decided to throw in Marble Zone four times.
>>477642341The game was essentially made by fan polls and dev shilling. Then they added whatever they felt like was needed to round out the pack. 5 was left out because it was the game just before in addition to taking place on a different planet.
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>>477654078Now that everyone else is gone I can lick a tummy in peace.
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