>Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection:https://atlus.com/etrianorigins/https://sq-atlus.jp/sq123/>Origins Portrait Rips:https://mega.nz/folder/1tASnSbb#E23CLm1oJ71WrB0_gnt3lA>Origins Font Fixes:https://gamebanana.com/mods/447602(EO1)https://gamebanana.com/mods/447609(EO2)https://gamebanana.com/mods/447653(EO3)>EO3 "Liberating" ModPC:https://files.catbox.moe/jodrax.zipPC hair version:https://files.catbox.moe/szvevp.zipSwitch:https://pixel drain com/u/AwKKreQ8Switch hair version:https://pixel drain com/u/mNu4HEeHEdited portraits:https://files.catbox.moe/gur7dr.zip>Beginner's Guide to the Series:https://imgur.com/a/ggW5g5U>Etrian Odyssey Resources (Mods/Patches, References, Data Dumps, Calculators, QR Codes, Skill Sims, etc.):https://pastebin.com/LBujh3ra>Etrian Odyssey Art Books:https://pastebin.com/Tm1xN2Jy>Etrian Odyssey FLAC Albums:https://pastebin.com/cE8mdiLF>Etrian Odyssey Lossy Albums:https://pastebin.com/crChVqLB>Nexus balance patch mod:https://mega.nz/#F!o1cXTSpB!SW5Ad-o8_pKYOa9LcbyiSg>Document containing some resources and informationhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1m5G-ZQvXsmM68TCrSv2bWfKz2SfSc7xq-REfMXMhAEc/Previous thread: >>480841258
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I could beat a ronin in the fight
what the fuck is their problem
>>482000735they're trained by some guy to take your wires so he can resell them to you for 1000 en eachnot sure why they show up everywhere though. Probably let a bunch of them free just for fun.
>>482000735The coolest rodent
etriam needs more bosses like this
Your Party < 5 Dancers
>>482000735They're planning a fullscale invasion of every human settlement.
A bird landed on my arm while I was chilling on a benchI'm literally becoming a rover irl
>>482010241S-sexo?
>>482010586He'd be an Earthlain Rover, which is decidedly not very sexo at all
>>482010749The NPC earthlain girl is pretty cute however. That being said anons can never hope to reach this level of sexo
I could 1v1 the star devourer
EO skins in Metaphor
>>482013960*vomits*
>>482013960The protagonist skin looks okay, WHERE IS SIX ATLUS
>>4820152166 is in hiding, it's cowering in fear of 7.
>>482010241I wish bird would land on my arm.>>482013960While I don't like seeing EO in this garbage, maybe it's a subtle hint that 6 is indeed coming. If the series was truly dead, they wouldn't bother making crossover costumes like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZnnmbqtrI8
Favorite skill?
>>482024989Head Pierce
>>482018520>Multiple resets because of thisI will always hate this boss
Which etriams enjoy a good read?
>>482024989Dance Oracle
>>482028876Zodiacs use book
>>482024989that ninja petrify is pretty satisfying
How do zodiacs in 3 use star powers when they are underground?
>>482030869they check the night before going down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAUSydn857Y
>>482013960They just didn't bother giving the gremlin creature a costume?
>>482024989There's nothing quite like getting a big meaty Arm Heal off.
The Primevil did nothing wrong
What's the strongest unit in 3?
>>482035674Hard to pick just one since there's a lot of strategies that require either subclassing or party synergy, but I'd say Gladiator is just very solid all around, from start to finish, main class or subclass, involved in multiple cheese strategies, but even standard "click strongest attack" gameplay is strong with them
>ded
OHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
>>482045981wish she had normal hair
What's your favorite Katana class?
>>482047684I like EO2 ronin a lot, but havent ever given Matsuro a fair shot. I should play V again soon.
>>482033484Helped save humanity instead of letting it die as it rightfully should. Thankfully our HEROES are here to correct the record.
Komori is finally free from SMT5 hell right? EO6 will finally start development
>>482024989Charged Front Mortar
>>482024989Chop
>>482069516athena?!
Direct this week with SQ6 announcement. They wanted to wait until VV was out first before having the Direct, that's why they've been waiting until later in June. Trust me bro, it came to me in a dream.
I love Princesses
>>482084818your sword also being a scepter seemings very inefficient to use
I will marry a princess irl
>>482086809Its not designed for combat, Sov isn't a phys DPS class. The sword aspect is symbolic, it represents the strength of her country, and her authority as princess.
>>482081279Nah it's Etrian VV
>>482035674me ;)
>>482095492>nyahaha
>>482095492Bratty princess lynx, needs hoplite provoke correction
etriam but Shadows Over Innsmouth
>>482102206That's basically countryside EO3
>>482093467Add new loli portraits and I'd be sold.
etriam but At the Mountains of Madness
Optimal 3 teamFront; gladiator sub:arbalist, princess sub:farmer, monk sub:hoplite Back; arbalist sub:gladiator, zodiac sub:buccaneer
>>482112180okay but consider:5 blond princess
>>482093467>EO5 with all the cut content and racesGod that would be great
>>482093467I'd actually be okay with that. Add a new race with 2 new classes for it, new portraits of each class as the other races, and then maybe some MINOR tweaks to the original class skill trees and I'm sold.
>>482121348A very useful censor desu
>>482093467EO5 is my favorite, but I'd still rather have a completely new one even with the risk of it being bad
>>482114597What content was cut?
>>482093467>>482114597>>482117054I still haven't forgiven Atlus.
>>482123760there's this big world map from the art book, as well as playable demon race. Playable lizard race too I believe who show up as enemies on the 4th stratum.
>>482123760We don't know, it's all just speculation. However, everything beyond the fourth stratum feels like it was rushed during development.
>>482127401Isn't that bunny the one from the nexus artbook that never made it into the game? So she was double scrapped?
>>482125880
>>482127620>Shamelessly leaving the card with the horned-race's crest in the Shaman's portrait.
>>482123760Nothing was cut. There is concept art of alternate races that were considered, but I doubt they ever intended to include that many.
>>482125880>>482126925>>482127401Do any of the other games have cut content we know about?
>>482130439Untold 1 does yeah.
let's try that again>>482130439If you count the unused FOE/Boss grimoires in U2, then sure
>>482130382My gut says they were cut. And I trust my gut more than I trust your logical argument, anon.
etriam but Voices of a Distant Star
what's the best team I can make in 3 if I want to sub everything gladiator?
>>482145265Sounds like optimal play to me
>>4821452655 gladiators
>>482156231imagine being in the center of that fluff, being cooked to death like bees on a hornet
FENCER and DOUBLE ATTACK
are chase teams good in 3?
>>482166105no, unless you count shogun's broken shit as chasesi assume you mean just buccaneer chase setups, which are not very good in the long run even if they are fun to use
(`(`ㅅ´ ( `ㅅ´ ) `ㅅ´)´)
>>482166105No.The problem with bucc chases is that they are AOE in a game where the vast majority of bosses and FOEs don't have adds. So with only a few notable exceptions, bucc chases are basically only good against random encounters. That wouldn't be a problem for a normal AOE skill, but chases require more SP investment and are something that you build your whole team around, and you do not want to build your whole team around clearing out mobs.
>>482166105Warrior's Might is a chase skill and yes it's good. Bucc's chases aren't quite as good but still not bad either, they're just more annoying to build around. The bucc chases have a chance reduction after each chase while I think WM doesn't but I might be remembering wrong. Shogun/bucc can feed a ton of chases when swashbuckling kicks in enough. I never used Ygg bots but I've heard that they don't chase on the turn you summon them.
etriam but phantasy star 2 dungeons
https://youtu.be/yK65dxhZp0I
I could easily beat a princess in a fight
>>482179484prove it
>>482166105I tried using Bucc chases in EO3, got past the Gatekeeper and immediately retired my entire team to use Warrior's Might.
>>482179484she loses easily to the cock
>>482166105Ygg chases are actually kinda good
Starting EO5. Thoughts on this party?Barrage/Impact/DeathbringerSpirit Broker/Divine Herald
What's the optimal rotation for Berserker Vow and Charge?
>>482205101Berserker Vow > Charge > Blade Rave
>>482205101>>482205474In 3HD is actually Charge > Berserker Vow > Blade Rave since charge skills don't expire if you don't use them
>>482205101it depends on what version of the game you're playingin the HD version it's charge > vow > attack > charge > attack. In the original that don't work so you can only do vow > charge > attack > attack
>>482203512should be good
Is there a single game where chase teams are good?
>>4822144894, 1U, 2U and 5.In 2U a chase team is actually one of the best team comps you could have if you want to comfortably beat postgame.
>>482214489>>482215307They also work fine in Nexus
>>482214489I'd say probably every game except 1 since they only chase once in that game. They are good in 3 because WM is a chase skill so it seems weird to exclude it. I just did a chase team in 2hd and while there are probably stronger setups, it still worked fairly well.
Hate chaseNever make a chase team ever
>>482240929Why do you hate Chase?
>>482240929I used chases in 5, all you need is fencer+shaman and three fillers.
>>482240929Chase teams are the highest iq teams in etrian
>>482242174>>482244929t. cameron
Chase teams are for gorillas
>>482249245Is there a problem with that?
Stratum 6 is bs, just wanted to beat the final boss before move to EO 2
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/119705603
>>482249245I am a gorilla irl
nees gunner gf NOW
Forging is sorta weird (talking specifically EO5, don’t know what it’s like in the other games). It encourages grinding in a way I’m not sure I really like. Cause like, the optimal thing to do is to - as soon as you are able to - always upgrade weapons to max level because they’re all linear upgrades, so there’s functionally no reason to ever have the lower level weapons. It just feels like busywork, and I’m not a fan of it because it leads to exp flow as well.
>>482261663It's better in 3 and 4 because you get a choice of what you want to put on the weapon such as stats or ailment/binds. You really shouldn't be grinding materials too often, just play the game and you'll get most of the drops you need usually. There's also ingots or whatever that can upgrade the weapon in V but don't waste those on weapons with common drops. In 6, I want the ability to forge effects onto weapons like in 3/4 again but I also want weapons skills to be included in that pool of effects you can add.
>>482261663the worst part is that you can make ingots by chunking maxed weapons so the easiest way to upgrade is to go floor 1/2 and kill low level mobs to make their weapons and then smash them into ingots. Which as you said is a bunch of dumb busywork.
>>482262789> often, just play the game and you'll get most of the drops you need usually.Where it’s come up for me, and what’s making me think about it is that - up to this point what you’ve described has been the case, where just regular exploration tends to give you what you need. BUT I’ve managed to kill the big caterpillar FOE, and the drop you get from that is used not only for a substantially better scythe for my harbringer, but also a substantially better cetus for my pugilist (which poisons alongside the much better stats). So what the game “wants” me to do right now is kill 9 more FOEs, which is just insane.
>>482265195Weapons from bosses/FOE are usually what I save the ingots for. Another tip for getting ingots is that you can just buy weapons that you have a lot of material for already, upgrade them to 5, then recycle them until you get enough shard to form an ingot. I only do this for materials I naturally obtained a ton of.
BUSTER CANNON
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/272936816/
>>482276442>Sat 23 Nov 2019>NEXT STAGE any day now.Any day now.
Would
>>482278792heh the face on the blanket is all o_O
>>482264978You don't have to max forge every weapon. Eventually you'll get a better one that uses common drops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvVdGOeWIPQ
>>482278792w-what's up with her leg?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmxkoaPW23w
Heavy armor classes are natural party leaders
>>482295140Wrong, class on the game cover=leader
With VV out the time is now at hand. We either get 6 at the Direct this week or at the one that comes before TGS.
>>482286707That's not her leg.
NEXT STAGE news this year
don't worry 6 will be out by 2026
NECTAR
If there's a Direct tomorrow, how would you rate the chances of EO6 or anything EO related showing up?
>>482322547/10
>>482322547The rate of your head bind only lasting one turn
Direct confirmed tomorrowNext Stage will be real, trust the plan
If they do more remasters do you think they'd skip the Untolds in favor of 5 and Nexus?
>>482333894I'm fine with that, 4 and 5 are peak EO.
>>482322547If it's not tomorrow it's all Logre
What if we get untold 3/4/5 for the new switch
>>482335867No thanks, I don't want more Untolds and their story mode nonsense. Regular enchanced ports are fine but I really want 6 the most right now.
Only 22 hours left, trust the plan.
>>482335867Not gonna happen. Nobody in Japan want untold. Also it's gonna be pc/switch.
Its still too soon for a new game announcement from ATLUS.
>>482341930Next Stage isn't exactly "new" at this point...
>>482334253Having a fucking speed toggle would make 4 bearable.
>>482347463EOVI for the six year anniversary of the Next Stage trailer?
>>482215307>In 2U a chase team is actually one of the best team comps you could have if you want to comfortably beat postgame.What kind of chase team? I know about the survivalist bullshit that can kill ur devil in a few turns but it doesn't seem that strong otherwise.
>>482348229I recently replayed it with the patch in that EO doc and found it pretty bearable
>>482355435Landy, Palmchemist, Gunner, Beast + Troubadour or Princess (medic can also work).
>>482295764Same anon here. I probably shouldn't get anyone's hopes up because honestly I don't think we're getting anything at this Direct. There's probably a very slight chance but realistically, a Fall 2024 or Winter 2025 Direct would have a much better chance. VV did come out but it's probably still too soon for a new game announcement and they still have Metaphor as well.>>482339968I want to believe in Butt Master but I don't know, it might be too soon. Hopefully I'm wrong though.
>>482322547Don't worry they added etrian costumes to metaphor that means six is in the works
Recommended reading material for etriams?
>>482370238artist:"mashiro shirako$" + parody:"etrian odyssey$"
>>482370238The EO2 gunner girl manga, it ends before they get to the later strata but it's still a fun read and it's what I would have wanted out of a EO2 storymode instead of what we got but I guess they figured they already blew their gunner load with untold 1.https://mangadex.org/title/c51bfb68-f09c-4fdf-8545-b7731a24eea6/etrian-odyssey-ii-the-snowflake-girl
>>482366630Ero Hero's costume was added in the TMS#FE port and we've still had no EO news.
>>482375074because they added the wrong ero hero costume
>>482375074The hd collection was "news".
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>>481998091E-train
>Get a preemptive strike>Still make my protector use front guard out of habitGood damn it, I keep doing this.
Next Stage...
Dragon themed etriam parties
>>482405368I read that as panties
draGOON
>>482408243She is so cool
>>482422885explain this
>>482423893Shouldn't have stepped into the lions den
What is this passive skill called?
9 more hours, bros.
Etrian Odyssey but with playable Napier portraits
>>482427730remove fang
I never realized 7th Dragon had such cute flatties. I don't know why I haven't played this yet but I will after the ER dlc.
All good RPGs need good characters and music.
>>482430104I played iii code vfd ages goes. Was pretty fun, I dig the class portraits (which you can mix and match) and some of the classes have really fun gimmicks like playing yugioh mid fight
>>482432184I somehow didn't realize the DS one was translated and now I feel silly for passing it up for so long when these designs are right up my alley. I can see the EO similarities after firing it up in the emulator and messing with it for a few minutes.
>>482432579I just fished out my 3ds and cart of it, I might take it for another spin myself
Who wins in a fight? The primevil or the star devourer
should I try finish EO2 or EO3I like my team in EO2 but I'm not that far inI'm up to the Deep Lady/One boss fight in 3 but aren't super happy with the line up and might scrap it
>>482440417Release order. Why did you start playing one game before finishing another?
>>482440671I'm a free spirit
>>482431779I like my custom party members more than most RPG characters
>>482442013Well yeah, they're good characters
>>482371438Already read that, but thank you for reminding me to back it up just in case
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/417951554/
cock
God I had to stop watching with how painful that was. I knew it wasn't happening but at least they showed the only good thing right at the beginning.
>>482474313>more bing bing wahoo slop>goodThe only 'good' thing is that DQ isn't dead... but it's all just remake shit anyways.I seriously doubt the translation of AAI2 will be better than the fan's as well.Gaming is fucking dead.
>METROID PRIME 4I TAKE IT ALL BACK GAMING IS FUCKING SAVED!! not really
>>482474647>DQ>not slop
>>482474647I'm so fucking tired of all the ports and remakes, whatever making up more than half of "announcements" in these
Subliminal message, trust the plan.
Next time for sure...
>>482475609>The Next Stage was Prime 4 all alongI'd be down for a Metroid Prime style etriam game
>>482475908I'm pretty much a space pirate irl
>>482475586Same. At some point they'll run out of things to remake right?It could be worse though. As soon as I saw that metroid text appear and Samus fly in, I thought for sure it was just going to be Prime 2 remastered. It's nice to have my miserable expectations subverted a bit.
>>482475586I mean, they're not going to show anything interesting until the next console is announced. I'm surpised MP4 even made an appearance since it's obviously a BotW situation.
Man, nothing at all in the reveal really appealed to me, that was roughI wish the Fairy Tail game was more like the DBZ Xenoverse games where you make your own character, that would have been neat
>>482476625>At some point they'll run out of things to remake right?Did you see all the people expecting Twilight Princess and Wind Waker HD HD? They're just going to remake the remakes.
>>482477574I mean by the standards of the average normie EO would have been another "shitty JRPG" or whatever, so I had a sliver of hope
>>482477747I want to fucking scream.
>>482475609we already predicted this it must be true
>>482475586I don't really care, these ports and remakes are made for a new generation, I may grab something I never had the chance to play back then most likely, but only if it is a good port/remake.I think games that were born in the current landscape of videogames have no excuse to be remade (Like the snoys games being remade after 5 years, or remake of games made in the digital era)
>>482486079That's fair, I'm actually pretty excited about the Romancing SaGa 2 remake since it looks completely different and seems like it'll change up the combat a lot too, but these lazy ports I could do without
I wasn't expecting EO but I'm happy with the Phantom Brave announcement.
Where's Waldo?: Zodi Edition
>>482477637All I know about Fairy Tail are those amazing Tamagoro doujinshi
>wake up>no etrian news >the only thing that seems slightly interesting to me is the phantom brave sequel IM IN DESPAIR
>>482513628Romancing Saga 2 has cunny.
>>482514053It also has those sexy spats wearing warrior chicks
>>482515695https://saga.fandom.com/wiki/DiverFor my it's Maria.
>>482515695Found the image I was looking for
>>482518389They could easily pump out babies
chase teams are peak etrian design
>>481998091nice
>>482524749This but ailment/bind teams
>trying to 100% EO1 DS>most of the info is vague or incomplete>can't figure out how many items I need for the blacksmith to sell me stuff>can't figure out where to get the drops for the items I need for the blacksmithaaaaaa
gooning with my dragoon gf
Getting sticky with Ricky
I need to post the word "loli" more so it appears larger in those word bubble things.
>>482549852larger loli
>>482549852remove fang
>>482544930>finally dug up the info for clover spawns in a 16 year old gamefaqs postthis has been an arduous journey
>>482550054Fluffzilla loli
>>482550521yeah pretty annoying how they only spawn on certain tiles at low odds. >recall seeing decent maps on the steam forums>see posts about them>maps are hosted on discord>"this content is no longer available"I hate discord so much. Why can't people use more permanent hosting options.
>>482551719>loli poststhe best kind
>>482551719that ded is looking kind of big
>People marking river tiles as wallsDie.
>>482555553you can't walk into it so there's clearly some kind of wall blocking you
>>482557118>>482555553Fundamentally different. Rivers can be seen through, and some FOE’s can go through/over them. You paint them a different tile color (blue/purple/whatever it is) and draw the walls of the room around them
>>482430104>>482432184been playing this againforgot how neat some of the battle animations are, lot of character there
>>482555553The game needs to give me river tiles so I can paint prettier maps in that case.
What game has the most fun chase team?
>>482569780I enjoyed double fencers in 5
>>482569780Dancers are kinda nuts, so I’d say 4
>>482569780Rush dancer is fun.
>>482569780lmao4kat hell slashride or die
>>482569780>>482572153Double Hell Slash + Lure is peak fun for chase teams
2 is where ailment/bind teams peaked
>>482572520That sounds like a really expensive party comp
>>482573063Go big or go home
>>482571682Why does she wear bras?
Sex
with theriancelestrianand brouni too
>>482574000those shoes...
>>482573063You save money by not buying any equipment for your Fencer. Then you immediately go into debt buying 8 katanas
>>482579682this is fake hexer wouldn't do that
>>482579682
He lost the sex appeal over the years
>>482573854even for smaller boobs it is important to support them so that they remain perky as long as possible
>>482582912Truly the sexo appeal peaked in 2019
>1st turn + maxed thortotal stratum extinction
I'm pretty much a survivalist irl
>>4825829122019 for me
>>482536158What a delinquent
how do zodiacs powers work so they just look at the stars real hard then element's come down?
>>482432184high school samurai girl is cute
>>482577150I don't understand why people had money trouble with 4kat. Are you buying 4 copies of each new katana you unlock at the shop? Just buy one and don't sell your old katanas, then equip your 4 newest katanas.
How do you map 14F for the boat things in Etrian 1 HD?
>>482559016Walls are short hand for anything that's impassable via player movement. Blue is for ice tiles or stuff like in Golden Lair in 4.
>>482605689That’s the lake yeah? Just use arrows to mark the launch points, they all go straight in lines so the map is pretty easy to read once you’ve done the legwork. You could number launch and landing points but that’s a lot of unneeded clutter imo
>>482613296I ended up using the old treasure chest icon since it looks like a water lily. Even more so since the first one you see doesn't actually go straight.
>>482614113>Even more so since the first one you see doesn't actually go straight.Huh. Well there goes my memory.
>>482614113there's only 1 that doesn't go straight and it just takes you back to the start so use an X for that one and arrows for the rest like anon said
did anyone else try out witch and lilies? It feels like a game that really wants to be etrian but aimed to copy etrian 1 for some reason.Definitely has some balance problems like medic being completely worse than items starting in the 4th stratum (but feels almost mandatory until then) and while I didn't use one knight (protector) seems pretty sad once bosses start using multi hit elemental aoes so they can't even block them properly, also starting in the 4th stratum.
>>482629897I powered through the first layer and haven't been motivated to continue. For a game that's aping Etriam so transparently, it's missing a lot of the stuff that makes Etriam enjoyable. Some of the skill trees are silly, like the Bestia having a Fist Mastery that you need to go through before you can invest in the stances, and I've had a lot of trouble figuring out who can even do damage. The main thing for me is that it's a lot harder to plan and fight effectively when you can't tell what's working; unless I'm a complete moron, you can't see enemy weaknesses/resistances, so you don't know what elements or statuses to use aside from trial-and-error.There's a bunch of the aesthetic stuff I'm not fond of, either, even aside from NPCs beating me over the head with a lily bouquet, but those could be ignored if the game were more enjoyable. I don't feel like this was a waste of my money, but I am disappointed at just how barebones the experience was.
>>482629897is that the yuri one
>>482629897>did anyone else try out witch and liliesthey had me until they revealed it was a yuri game.
>>482631321>you can't see enemy weaknesses/resistancesthey did a band-aid fix and made it so hitting a weakness or crit shows a "weakness" or "critical" text pop up but I agree that the game is very lacking in communicating things to the player. You can't check enemy buff/debuff information or even see if they currently have an ailment, and there's no bestiary so you have no idea if you're missing drops or such from enemies. And some drops are annoyingly rare; I had to farm at least 15 of the dumb nautiluses to get the better ice resist accessory for post game, and that's with a character with maxed out drop rate and rare drop rate passives.>>482632054yeah. It gets pretty annoying having to skip through all the date cutscenes every time you go back to town.
>>482632516>yeah. It gets pretty annoying having to skip through all the date cutscenes every time you go back to town.how hard is it to pretend one of your characters is a dude, I need my self insert
>>482632713you actually do have a self insert that you name yourself as the invisible party leader separate from the fighting characters, so you have that. But your self insert can't date characters or anything.
>>482629897>>482631321I also got through the first stratum, found it mostly very easy, but also just too unpolished to continue, lots of untranslated text, shitty formatting in the skill tree etc.Kinda pissed I didn't get a refund for it just because I went over the 2 hour limit of Steam, I tried multiple times and told them shit is way less translated than they advertised, but no dice
>>482589514same but eo1 hexer (useless and does nothing)
>>482635992You're just waiting for your binds to wear off...
>>482629897It's basically just a paid alpha version right now so it's not surprising that it's buggy and rough around the edges. I'm interested in it but I'm waiting until it's actually fully done. I also need to see what these new classes are because they did say that they're adding more. I will be pretty angry if there's not at least one more loli portrait. I like yuri so that aspect is no issue for me since I've always shipped my Etriam girls together from the beginning.
>>482605006But muh max dps
etriam but The Case of Charles Dexter Ward
>>482632972lame
etriam but Ranceoh wait that actually kinda exists already
>feel confident with my lv70 team>cleared all the way to B30F>decide to take on picrel blind>deleted with 2k damage aoe on turn 1oh
>>482652948hope you have a protector on your team
>>482653207I really wanted to go with minimum protector use but Plan B is to spend half of my squad's kidneys to afford elemental resist gear.
>>482652948Grab a dark hunter, feed them axcelas, and keep them permanently locked down with binds. Also use a survivalist for 1st turn so you can get it off fast enough. It's cheesy but you can beat all three dragons this way. Then I just had an alchemist spam megido until it's dead.
>>482638040You barely loose anything, I'm pretty sure some of 4kat's skills only use the 1st equipped katana's stats for all the hits.
>>482659928And you can use the Charge katana to save money too
>>482638040Max dps would be 3 kats + shokudaikiri in the fourth slot for double damage.
>>482662446The charge skill only really boosts TP economy, not DPS. Although if you're in a battle where you want to occasionally spend a turn not attacking (like against someone with a predictable phys counter skill), then yeah boosts DPS there.
>>482652948The blue one is worse.
>>481998091Which FOE is erect here?
I just started playing this series after playing a few other games of this genre. I'm starting with 1 and it's fun but I wish the characters were as cute as they are in the later games that I've seen.
>>482675616Then just skip to like 3
>>>/s4s/11586244
>>482675616You take those words back
>>482693867She's cuter with boots.
Persona Q without the heart
>>482692590le millenom girl
>>482694343Didn't he change the title on that
>>482675616Himukai's art was weaker in 1 and it does bring it down a bit.
>>482704315I like how flat all of the girls are
>>482705641Thine homie.
>>482692590>>482695506Has it really been ten years of this? Christ.
le decade girl
where is millennium girl 2?
Okay atlus you released fantasy persona and the V dlc where is 6?
>>482720964Fall Direct when they announce the new Switch with a second screen.
>>482720964Persona 6? It's being worked as we speak anon! ;_;
>>482694256I hate the EO2 female ronin portraits. Holding a sword in a reverse grip is just retarded.
>>482726157Reverse grip has no weaknesses as long as you have enough physical strength
>>482726754lol
>>482726754Have you heard of range?
New sex hot off the presses
as an unofficial blobber general, can any of you guys tell me Undernauts: Labyrinth of Yomi gets any harder?I'm a few bosses in, up to the cemetary area and have pretty much steamrolled my way through everyone. I dont necessary want it to be super hard, but could stand for it to be a bit more of a challenge
>>482736005Undernauts is Experienceslop.It's the same shit the entire game for all of their games.
>>482739565I'm liking it a lot more than Sword City, which I liked the visuals of but hate how all the character builds needed to end up being bastard child multiclass abominationsBut Undernauts is feeling a bit too easy and I doubt its because I've stumbled on some amazing team that breaks the game
Why are 90% of drpgs uninspired slop?What are some good drpgs apart from etriam and potato flowers?
>>482746123my personal one to shill is starcrawlersits not the hardest one out but you still need to build a decent team, and there are lots of minor events based on your class/specialisation in most dungeons (your gunslinger smuggler might be able to shoot down a drone before it can report you, your force psyker might throw up a barrier to protect you from a booby trapped chest, etc)the visuals are also really fun, easy class has different affects like a cyberninja doing hurricane kicks across the screen or a void psyker spawning tentacles everywhereyou can also pick which corps to piss off/impress with your runs, which can lead to them hooking you up with special gear or sending hit squads after you (some of which are damn hard)I went back and replayed some of the might and magic games (3, 7 and 8 specifically) and they're all still pretty fun, I should play 4 and 5 again too
>>482607226so you put walls around chests?
>>482746123I enjoyed the SMT drpgs, even KMT and if... if you count those as drpgs
>>482749286do you not
>>482750280Oh yeah, classic SMT are drpgs.I already played every mainline SMT, currently playing Vengeance. KMT2 is the best classic MegaTen.
>Decide to brows through the "dungeon crawler" tag on Steam to see what they got.>The tag is filled with games that aren't dungeon crawlers, some I can understand, but others are really pushing it.>Fucking Content Warning is on the list.>Okay fuck off.
>>482726157it looks cool though
mischievous seeker-chan up to no good
>>482757538I feel you, there needs to be some tag that really only applies to DRPGs or whatever you want to call EO and similar games, half the shitty action roguelites get tagged as dungeon crawler because of their setting and nothing else
>>482775775we already have another name for the genre, blobber
>>482777730I don't care if its blobber or drpg or whatever, just something that lets me find them on Steam without having to wade through games that are different
>>482780438Steam tags are absolute dogshit and nothing will ever fix it. Trying to search for roguelikes is impossible, though honestly you shouldn't be looking for those on steam anyway.
>>482783543Indeed, why search for them when you can just emulate Azure Dreams, one of the greatest roguelikes ever made?
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/119818465
Need a dragoon gf to goon with
>>482802540Will those massive shoulders be enough to keep us above page 10?
>leveled hexer to compliment my dark hunter for landing binds>fight boss>DH lands every bind, damages monster in the process>maxed curse hexer fails to land anything>no binds, no ailments>no damage
>>482811639Hexer is only useful for sex
>>482811639You're doing something wrong if your hexer isn't repeatedly telling monsters to kill themselves.
>>482811639You need to boost her Luck somehow. Are there any rabbits nearby whose feet you can harvest?
>>482811639My Hexer kept the final boss head bound for like 20 turns allowing my trash underlevelled team to take him out without taking basically any damage.
>>482811639Did your hexer remember to do her pre-boss warmup stretches? This is important, she won't perform well if she doesn't do them.
which etrian classes are the most gooner core? Dragoons are obviously massive gooners but who else?
>>482819693I don't browse SA so I wouldn't know
https://x.com/bonemanjake/status/1799992938992111727
>>482819693Necromancers and Princesses and especially Arcanists
NEED IMPERIAL PUSSY
NEED to get off my butt and actually play V
>>482831471ganbatte!I believe in you, anon! And if you don't believe in yourself, then believe in me who believes in the you that can get through that game!
>>482831471you should, its pretty fun
etriam but The White Ship
>>482819898How do you browse a Switchaxe?
>>482831471It gets better after the 2nd stratum
I deserve to eat fencer pussy
Finally reached Primevil.What in the fuck
>>482848067should have got a protector bro
>>482852717I did, and wanted to 100% the game but seeing those superboss item drop rates is making me reconsider. I couldn't figure out Primevil without looking up his absurd attack patterns though.
Which etriams prefer tea, and which coffee?
>>482859801The only etrian I can think of that would prefer coffee over tea is wildchild landsknecht, and maybe eyepatch dragoon
>>482859801Hexer drinks coffee because she thinks it makes her more mature
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/119717087
>>482859801After doing extensive research in the labs, here are my findings.Prefers tea: Female EO1 Medics, Alchemists, Female Troubadors, Ronins, Hexers, Black War Magus and Female War Magi, Bear Beasts, Sovereign, Loli Bucc, Ninjas, Monks, Female Zodiacs, Shoguns, Nightseekers, Female Snipers, Female and the young male EOIV medic, Runemasters, Dancers, Arcanist, Wolf Bushi and Female Bushis, Highlanders, Fencers, Turban Pug, Harbingers, Masuraos, Generic Therians, All the Celestrians, All the Potatoes, The DLC isekai protagonists, Heros.Prefers coffee: Male and redhead female EO1 Sharks, Protectors, Survivalists, Dark Hunters, Male EO1 Medics, Old man War Magus, Male Gunners and Mascot Gunner, Arbalists, Every bucc except the loli, Gladiators, Wildlings, Male Fortresses, Imperials, Lion Bushi, Normal Earthlians Female Pugs and the Muscle Wizard, Dragoons, Generic Earthlains, Preference uncertain, could go either way: Brown haired female EO1 shark, Male Troubadours, Glasses gunner, Hoplites, Farmers, Male Zodiacs, Male Snipers, Scruffy EOIV medic, EOIV Sharks, Female Fortresses, RoversNA: Tiger and Wolf Beasts, Yggdroids
The fact that they didn't include a not!olympia portrait for the yggdroids in 3HD is baffling to me. They knew it's what everyone wanted give me my red and blue haired Olympia to use.
>>482878428cute
OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
>>482866435
Are there any must-have classes in EO2 like in EO1? Also is the xp grind still painfully slow because I like playing with multiple teams
>>482901735If you're playing 2hd you can switch to picnic mode and farm bosses to easily level a second party. You can do it without picnic mode but you get more exp this way and it's obviously easier.
>Dragon actually dropped the 5% chance Volt Scaleoh nothe sunk cost has set in. I have to get the rest
>>482910936Don't do it
>>482910936what are they for?
>>482920050Strongest weapon in the game, plus completing the item compendium gives the strongest accessory in the game. Both have no real use because you've beaten everything by that point.
>>482921615Too bad you can't use for a medic because it doesn't work with her skill.
>>482910936Do it you have nothing better to do.
Do you minmax before every boss or do you just go with whatever skills you have?
>>482936184First time - go with what you have + general boss items.Second time - adjust party to see where we lost, maybe get specific accessories or something - coming in with a better plan.If I lose twice, then I consider resting. But not before that point.
>>482936184Whatever skill I have at the moment.
>>482936184I just look up guides so I have the best skills when I get to the boss anyways>why yes Fenrir I do have ice wall levelled already, get fucked asshole
>>482940841She cute
HEAVENLY AID
What's the highest iq team comp?
>>48295456020kat
>>482954560Auto attack teams
>>482957914Would 2U be the best game for that due to Landies and Troubs?
>>482901735ronin and hexer feel pretty hard to pass up
>>482954560Probably creating an intentionally bad/flawed team and making it work regardless, like too many frontliners dancing in and out of the front row or 5 support classes.>>482958479I think EOU Gunner probably has the strongest normal attack build. I think with enough work you can oneshot the superboss with it.
>>482961802Tricky Ricky…
>travel across two separate stratums to reach a superboss>blindsides with 2k party-wide damage
>>482921615Who even uses Shinryuu in EO1?
>>482968701Anyone who gets really lucky with drops I guess
>>482969014I meant classes.
>>482921615don't you need 100% for the better starting accessory in EO2?
https://cdromance.org/psp/unchained-blades-usa/Finally completely undubbed mediocrity
>switch 2 will have dual screensETRIAN IS BACK BAYBEE
>>482935170audibly laughed at this
>>482980464>tested out a single screen with the HD project>displayed that the series works with a single screen>somehow fatlus/sega didnt get any dev kits of the new system where a core feature is a dual screen againDoubt
>>482981005I'd believe nintendo being incompetent with dev kit distribution
>>482970528the dragon trio rare drops are so miserable that finishing 100% up is pretty much a breeze after you've gathered up those items
>>482981838With some smaller studio sure, but with Sega?
>>482961802>I think with enough work you can oneshot the superboss with it.Your definition of oneshot must be as loose as your asshole.
>>482982229Yes
>>482980464Thats old news, but more importantly, getting a patent on something doesn't mean they plan to actually make it. All it means is that it was considered at some point. It's certainly still a possibility though.However, as I have said multiple times here, even if it doesn't have 2 screens, the Switch 2 will 100% have some sort of support for playing 3DS (and WiiU) games. Nintendo would never miss out on an opportunity to resell their old games on new consoles, especially not with the DS series which had a really good library. They'd be leaving a shit ton of money on the table if they didn't do that.The 3DS Etrian games may or may not get HD remasters, but if nothing else, they will at the very least they will get a simple port to the Switch 2 at some point. As for Next Stage, while there is no way to know if it will come out, it certainly will NOT come out before the Switch 2 does. The Switch 2 will just be a better fit, and it wont be too much longer till it comes out, at this point there is no reason for ATLUS to not wait and make it for the Switch 2.>>482981005Because even though the Switch 2 will be a better fit, there's no reason to not also consider making a Steam version for Next Stage or any future EO remakes as well. Like you said it was a test.
>>482981005But it works a lot better with 2
etriam but The Great God Pan
>>483008713i am interested
Just beat EO 1 hd final boss, what a bs, story was like 25 hours and this guy took me an extra 40 hours due to retiring my team, farming better gear and doing the dragons only to get a katana and no cinematic or nothing?
>>483027740Congratulations anon, EO1's postgame actively hates the player so this is the expected outcome.
AAAAAAAAH
https://x.com/yuzokoshiro/status/1683115743964176384
bureiku faia fisuto
>>483037306The Nexus Overhaul guy giving that skill to Pugilist was a neat idea. Hell, Overhaul Pug is probably the most interesting aspect of that whole thing
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/439498714/
best hub town
https://exhentai.org/g/2961061/a2f6c0d8da/Thanks Ricky
>>483049552Ricky sure like that artist in particular.
>>483003040cuteI wish I too was a giant flying manta ray and could kidnap adventurers with my tail
>EO2 has smug bratsmy weakness...
>>483027740>basic
>>482000735Today I found out why this post was made.FUCK
>>483097537now you are a real etriam
Sick nasty etriams
>>483112315Etriam but Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2.
>>483113489Grindest EO of all.
>>483113489*steals your map and claims credit for it*
>>483115773>Having to grind.LMAO git gud scrub.Just do a vert build.
What class is best for hangtime
etriam but SUPER-REFLEX
Do you guys ever use portraits for a class that comes from another class? I made my protector look like a dark hunter for the masochism.
>>483122692flavio as a gunnerbotanist(poison) as elf/human
>>483122692I used the red Yggdroid as a gunner in Nexus and named him E-102 y.
>>483122692no, that would be wrong
>>483076954There is only one correct choice, and she is adorable!
Just look at her!
>>483122692I'm not adverse to it but most of the time dont have a reason to I did make kerchief landsknecht my hero in nexus though
>>483122692Highlander tummy bnnuyShogun busty choco MasuraoCarried my Nexus playthrough.
>>483154027Please tell me numbers
I really like etrian's gameplay, but I'm a fucking zoomie who started the franchise with the Millennium Girl. Do y'all have any recs for games that play a lot like Etrian, but have more of a story and character development?
How hard would you guys say Abyssal God is compared to the other games superbosses? Took me nearly all day yesterday to finally beat it but I'd like to know what's ahead before I get too proud of myself
>>483123424Sometimes it works fine visually, like turning a Masurao into a Fencer
>>483162145EO2U story mode is more well liked than EO1U, but in general the genre is rarely story heavy
>episode 7 of surviving party member drags 4 corpses back home after a dungeon trip
>>483194831Can really feel the Overexertion if you know what I mean
EO2 FOE's don't give exp?? Why make a difficult fight less rewarding damn it
>>483194831>bindings/paralyze never hits>force break only gets one or two bindings on the boss instead of a guaranteed three>useless in mob battles unless there's a specific drop that requires binds>nonexistent def so have to pay extra attention to themLove pug in EOVH A T E pug in EOX
>>483198045Wining a difficult fight is its own reward.If you don't enjoy a challenge, then you should unironically just play on a lower difficulty setting.
>>483198045They still have unique drops, a few of which are quite useful.
>>483198209>not just using them as a panic gas botyou're doing it wrong>>483198045for balance reasons. A completionist who kills all the FOEs will be the same level as the person that dodges all of them. Therefore they can balance the rest of the game for both parties equally.Too bad people bitched and they reverted the change. Then we got games like EO4 and EOX where it's so easy to accidentally be overlevelled.
>>483194831She should remove her shirt desu
I do not like the tankThe tank is making me reset RaqunaI liked the bird and the manta a lot more
>>483215797>anon loses to literal mustard gas
any EO's where landing debuffs & binds is a worthwhile strategy vs bosses?
>>483222916All of them?
>>483223194my eo1 hexer did not do well in that department
>>483223301Ailments are kind of bad in EO1, but binds are pretty good aside from certain postgame fights. The final boss for example has only a 3% vulnerability to ailments but 50% for binds.
>>483222916>>483223194All of them except 13 also makes it rather tricky/situational, but in some fights Wildling status/binds are greatIn every other game they're a viable option
>>483235573C obviously
>>483235573C.
>>483235573C
>>483235573a if not interactablee with star/questionmark if interactable
I saw some sickos who never draw walls on their maps before
>>483235573C, baring a few exceptions.
>>483248459SEXO
What kind of parties do you guys build? All cute girls? Self insert surrounded by cute girls? Equally balanced team? Boys club?
>>483248459honestly she may be the peak sexo npc for me.the shopkeeps sister in 3 is close but suffers from having less screen time>>483251267>What kind of parties do you guys build?the general set up is 3 girls, 2 guys, though 3 guys 2 girls or 4 girls 1 guy are also options1 guy is my MC character, not necessarily my self insert but the character I would have rolled if it was a tabletop campaign (because I'm a forever DM and need to get it out of my system somehow)I will generally pair couples off over the course of the game based how things go
>>483235573D of course
>>483251267oops all cute girl
>>483251267I usually end up with unintentional harem FFV style, or 2:3 boy girl ratio
>>483235573D
>>483251267I like having an even gender ratio, but god damn is it difficult to pull that off. The female portraits are just so much better.
>>483235573I agree that c is the most correct, but d is the most aesthetic, and the one I go for
>>483262513D is superior. In the golden lair there are tiles that are sometimes water and sometimes ice which can be marked with unwalled blue to differentiate them from blue tiles with walls you can’t walk on.
>>483270596>he doesn't know
>>483235573Imagine being the psychopath that does A
>>483278713can't walk on it don't need to see it
Which one's worse?>People that don't draw walls>People that use automap>People that play on Basic>People that take the words of LPs as fact when it comes to classes and builds
>>483289421You know there's someone out there that does those four things, right?
>>483289910I refuse to believe that
>>483289421>People that use automapThis is fine.>People that play on BasicLittle weird but as long as you aren't bragging about it that's okay>People that don't draw wallspretty strange and I wouldn't want to talk to you>People that take the words of LPs as factabsolute scum of the earth
>>483251267Five of the loli-est and flattest girls only. Anything else is heresy. Why would I self insert in my anime dungeon crawler game? I want cute girls, good music, good combat, and good dungeon crawling. I'm not here to pretend I'm some anime dude.
>>483251267Bros having an adventure without any nagging.
>>483301316based
>>483198045Devs knew players were skipping paths and possible puzzles in EO1 so they doubled down on making you avoid FOEs in EO2.
>>483299208what if you could isekai into one of your builds and bang all those flat lolis though
>>483304078He might simply have a voyeurism kink and not be interested in actually touching people.
>>483304390Fair enough, just hard to imagine not wanting to be a busted adventurer in a cool fantasy world.
>>483304078That would be great but as far as I know, I can't turn myself into an anime character.
>>483304998Well if you ever figure it out, let me know how to do it too.
>>483251267All girls - Good mixture of flat and notExcept gathering parties, they can be mixed, as they don't see battles
>>483310214translate pls
ISSEN
>>483312045Summer is hot and a Pasaran exploded on her.
>>483331807Why is nuRonin's katana lime green?
>>483336920Same reason blue boys katana is red
>>483336920Needs a couple strands of pit hair
>>483336920It's made of Zol-Orichalcum like the SRX's sword.
>>483339330Can she do the cool thing where she jams the sword in an enemy before making it explode?
>>483340097Yeah, that's her Kubiuchi.
>>483317741>>483331807tummy
>>483235573Does this scenario happen even a single time in the series?V has a few water tiles in corners, but then it's for fishing, so you'd put the Fishing Symbol on it
>>483354282Teach should be naked
>>483354282>No bikini Teach portrait.atlus pls. himukai has already drawn her like 4 times.
>>483336920She gives strong cuddles
>>483361946I would March into battle for this
>>483346095Technically no.I don't think I've ever seen that specific example, where a water tile is at a dead end. However the conventions in that example can be applied to a much more common occurrence: a decorative water tile surrounded by two connected land tiles and two walls.
>>483362827mint, my beloved
>>483369789She could tank that.
>>483370130could she? gunner is known for having high attack and low defense
>>483362827after a lot of thought3>1>2>4>5
etriam but Sweet Ermengarde
Ronin>gunner
>>483367056me as the self insert + 4 loli on my team
>>483388875Do not open
>>483389326delete this
>>483389326Lewd
>>483362827>Vanilla>Blueberry>Strawberry>Mint>Cream
etriam but The Devil's Dictionary
etriam but that one p3 dungeon where they level grind to 99 just so they can fuck in the middle of the dungeon undisturbed
The lave cave in 3 has sapped all my will to play. Please tell me I'm doing something wrong. I'm on the second floor of it.
>>483423315>I'm on the second floor of it.The first half to get to the prison is easy, don't bother trying to map the whole floor and keep following whatever has the least lava. The dragon den in the second half after the prison will fuck you up, maybe consider bringing along a new guild member with an encounter reduction skill.
>>483423971UUUGGHHHHH AND THERE ARE AAANNNTSSAlright, that's good to know about not bothering to map it all right now. I feel like I need to do some grindan. Truth is I dropped the game for a bit since getting there after getting walled by the whale (for like a year+ until I randomly decided to pick it back up) and it's been a slog since then. Maybe I should decompress with some sea quests AND do some gathering/grinding for better equipment.
What conventions do you guys follow for names? (of guilds, members, etc). Also how retarded am I for making my first party in 3 a Buccaneer, a Gladiator, a Zodiac, a Monk, and a Wildling? It's been years since I last played any EO game.
>>483407076I need her lady boner
>>483435285that team's nice
>>483435285For party members, unless I already have a specific name in mind, I usually go with giving them a name that starts with the same letter as their class.Also, that team's pretty good.
>game hands you an unfinished map>it draws walls in front of doors, item boxes, geomagnetic poleswhat the fuck
>>483452476Its unfinished anon, part of finishing it means correcting the mistakes.
Good party comp for 3? I normally run a prince, hoplite, gladiator, arbalist, and then last party slot flex either wizard, healer, or ninja.
>>483459291Front=two princesses and a monk Back= double arbalist
>>483459291Regal Radiance party.Glad/Zod, Sov/x or x/Sov, Sov/x or x/Sov faster than the other one, Shogun/x, Hoplite/x.
>>483435285I just stare at the portrait until a name comes to mind. Sometimes it happens instantly sometimes it takes 10 minutes.I used a very similar team on my most recent playthrough and it went pretty well.
>>481998091I just started playing V.1) Is masurao really that good? I remember playing through some of the first few floors years ago and it seemed a bit underwhelming. Is there a better alternative or am I just remembering things wrong?2) There is no farmer class, so how do I make a dedicated "farmer" party like in EO3? Should I even bother doing that?
>>483235573B because that's what automap tells me to do
>>483470883Impact Pugilist is the one that can be described as "really that good". Masurao with 1 katana is pretty standard for a damage dealing class. Masurao with 4kat is a powerful but dangerous meme that doesnt always work.
>>483470883Helm Splitter/Petal Scatter mostly, otherwise Hell Slash memes.All races have a corresponding passive gathering skill (or fishing or something whatever) among other more notable passives. You have to spend SP on the non-class skill for that.
>>483470883>>483472229>Impact Pugilist is the one that can be described as "really that good".More like gamebreakingly strong with one of the best earlygame skills and all-game buff in Thunder Fist and Overexertion at base, and even stronger to the point of dealing enough damage to oneshot the superboss with proper setup.
>>483472229>>483472670Oh yeah, I actually wanted to use dragoon and pugilist. I just wasn't sure about what else to pick.>>483472342isn´t it a bad idea to just spend my main party's SP on those kinds of skills?
>>483473553Not really. You tend to stop midway per skill to maintain tp costs, union skills are generally ok to throw out, and some of the passives are really good. For example, Sorting Skill from humans gives you +5 inventory space per unit with that skill, Chain Blast breaks the difficulty apart, and something to boosts stats (like Talent for INT + WIS) scales the higher your level is, so it's a great investment for Celestrians for just 1sp.
>>483473553>isn´t it a bad idea to just spend my main party's SP on those kinds of skills?It's not a total waste because they come with a very minor stat boost. It's the union skills that are a waste of SP.
These walls are too high. We cannot pass through!
>>483474312Why aren't you playing the remaster?
>>483473553>isn´t it a bad idea to just spend my main party's SP on those kinds of skills?You're probably going to have a fair bit of spare SP for some classes early on anyway, not to mention that you're likely going to Rest once you hit the 3rd Stratum
>>483474106>>483474170>>483474745Thanks>you're likely going to Rest once you hit the 3rd StratumWhy?
>>483475198Prestige titles. Look at how tiny the skill trees are that you have right now.
>>483474376I like the nds versions. Remaster doesn't look good to me, especially the UI/text fonts. Maybe mods fix it but I'll stick with the originals
zodi loli
Shaman or botanist?
If I'm running hop, gladiator, sov, farmer, who should be the 5th? arbalist or zodiac?
>>483476435shaman>>483476562zodiac
>>483476435Both.
>>483476562Depends on how you want your coverage early on: more STR to go ham with (but with a near-nonexistent tp pool to work with in the first stratum) or TEC to help offset your Glad.
>>483476435Only consider using Botanist if you're running damage Pug or want to use the Smokes
>>483479112Ok, how about Dragoon, Pugilist, Masurao, Shaman and Celestrian Botanist?
>>483479759Yeah, sure. A consideration to make is that the Pugilist synergy mentioned is likely Overheal+Heavenly Aid, which means not going Poisoner. Though having only a 4x damage multiplier instead of 5x isn't going to ruin your run or anything.
>>483474376nta but playing on a ds/3ds is way more comfy than playing on an undocked switch
Does 2HD reuse the 2U assets, or is Heavenly Keep a piss castle again?
>>483479759V is the kind of game where nearly any party will work, and that one especially has several different end goal builds you could strive for (Buster Cannon, Hell Slash, Heavenly Aid), so you're more than fine. The only thing real thing of note is that not having a Rover or Necro means no meaningful interaction with the summon row outside of Dragoon Bunkers, which aren't as interesting as the Pets or Wraiths, but that's fine if you have no interest in that mechanic. There's also the fact that running both the tank and healer classes is quite a lot of defensive focus, but you're running both the best and arguably second best offensive classes alongside them (not to mention that said tank can later become a very strong offensive class itself), so that balances out.
>>483484587why would either game reuse untold assets?
Gooning with my draGOON gf
>>483485892Ok, i checked out how heavenly aid works. Do I get any big instant heal spell with this party? because therwise it feels like a bit of a waste.
>>483490272Just use a Medica IV
>>483490272With Heavenly Aid, for maximum returns you need to do something like Lingering Scent -> Delayed Herb -> Healing Herb IIRC
>>483476924Doesn't zodiac kinda fall off late game though?also if I were to swap glad for a yggdroid when I can, should I sub them as punch monk or glad? And who should get the ninja sub?
