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Welcome to the Grand Tour Edition

>DRAGON BALL: Sparking! ZERO - Game Mode Showcase: https://youtu.be/yW0NyXB62Vs
>Kakarot teased to get a 3rd Season Pass!
>Dragon Ball Superdivers Announced! https://youtu.be/qnepnexB-p0
>Season 6 of Dragon Ball: The Breakers announced for June 26th!
>Xenoverse 2's Future Saga chapter 1 teaser
https://youtu.be/UBQyAnQpZk

>Useful links:
https://rentry.org/dft79

XV2 news:
>Future Saga Chapter 1 released
>New characters: Super Saiyan God Vegeta (Ultra Supervillain), Super Saiyan Rosé Black (Ultra Supervillain), third unrevealed character
Videl(DBS)
Android 18 (Tracksuit)
Broly (Restrained)

SDBH news:
>Owari Da
>MM5 releases on 6/27
>Climax of the final arc
>UR cards for Aios, Ozotto, UI Goku, SSBE Vegeta, Evolved Hearts/Lagss, SS2 Goku, Majin Vegeta, and SS3 Goku/SS2 Vegeta
>Reprints of many original DBH SEC cards
>Arcade missions based around "Veteran Warriors"
>Goku and Majin Vegeta Dramatic Art reprints based on the manga and anime respectively

>SDBH Database
https://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/

>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:
steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21
DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefile
If you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.

Kakarot:
>Season 2 of DLC announced
>Bardock's story is the first DLC pack
>23rd Budokai Tenkaichi DLC released on August 17th
>Third DLC revealed to be End of Z.
>EoZ DLC is released

DB The Breakers:
>Season 6 releases on June 26th
>Survivors: CAC, Bulma, Oolong, The Farmer, Chichi, King Furry, Yajirobe, Baba, Dende, King Kai, Gogeta, Cheelai, Lemo, Future Mai, Puar, Jaco, Bra, Launch (default and blonde)
>Raiders: Cell, Frieza, Buu, Vegeta, Ginyu Force, Broly, Goku Black and Zamasu, Baby Vegeta

>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry here
http://xenoverse.booru.org/

Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama
Thank you

LAST TIME ON /dbg/:
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>>483453081
Last thread because I forgot
>>483115912
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>>483453081
>>483453320
ONE JOB
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Do you think they'll bring back Kageyama to sing the opening to Sparking Zero?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBLvhnb3ij0

17 years later and Tenkaichi 3 is still full of surprises, Sparking Zero could never
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>>483453536
He supposedly came back for Daima
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>>483453512
I was updating the Breakers segment, I just realized something was missing until the thread was made...
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>>483453795
It's a mod, anon
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>>483454424
You are a mod
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>>483453795
who would've thought... nam was the sparking meteor all along
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>>483454927
How dare you accuse me of being a jannie?!
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I NEED MORE SPARKING TRAILERS AAAAAAAAAAA
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Reminder that Bra following in her mom's footsteps.
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>>483453915
I thought the rumor was that Original DB singer (Hiroki Takahashi) will be doing the Daima op.
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>>483453081
>Grand Taco
ew
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Oh hi Veget-AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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What was your opinions when you first saw this leak out?
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>>483456497
It's when I realized that Freeza was truly back at top and it was gonna be like the old days prior and during most of the Namek arc
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>>483456163
Maybe, I could have mixed it up.
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>>483456497
It was mind blowing to see the arc end just like that
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>>483456497
It was definitely unique. People expecting Goku or some combined heroes effort to finish things off. But it was the guy everyone was obsessing over all arc who came in and took care of business and wrapped things up.
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>>483456497
I didn't have one, I just chuckled and then moved on, just like I did when the Beast transformation scene was camrip'd.

My current opinion is "I don't really care."
It's Golden Frieza but in black. It's feels pretty meh to me.
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>>483459332
Black Frieza looks way different than Golden Frieza.
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>>483453081
I admit that his level 1 is quite creative but I'm still disappointed Super Baby 1 isn't actually playable
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>>483460058
Doesn't super baby 1 have like no source material to work off of?
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>>483460058
The bigger disappointment should be SS3 instead of SS4
Sure they could add it later on before season 7, but still, people want their GT match
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>>483456497
Boring and retarded.
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>>483455778
Anime Expo is in a couple of weeks, and Sparking Zero is confirmed to be there.
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>>483460058
Super Baby 1 is ugly as sin dude
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>>483460598
It's the Ideon shoulders, isn't it?
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>>483439916
>Frieza hates monkeys
>Becomes black
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>>483460303
*Cool and kino.
FTFY
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>>483459852
"way different" is an overstatement.
There's minimal differences here and there to make it look different, but that's it.
Gloves-like hands instead of hands with bracer-like parts, Toyotaro added purple spots on the shoulders, changed the shape of the boots-like area on top of making the purple spots therein larger, and so on.

It doesn't feel like something drastically different and that makes an impact, like say, Cooler's transformation.
It's a design that tried its best to stick to Frieza's body proportions and general shape, which is again, boring (to me.)
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>>483460959
Cope
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>>483460951
Saiyans aren't black. Now head on back to Twitter or Reddit, zoom zoom nigga.
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>>483456497
I knelt so hard everyone in U11 could feel it...
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>>483461154
Oof, okay...
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>>483461054
Black Frieza's shoulders are practically untouched from his base form unlike Golden Frieza.

And the metallic hands are way more distinctive than before.

>Cooler's transformation
Cooler's design is an overdesign and it's just westerners who grew up with Marvel Comics who think it looks cool. Not saying it's bad but people really need to stop saying retarded things like "Frieza's transformations should be like Cooler's". For a bunch of fans who cry about unoriginal ideas, their own ideas isn't any better.
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What did Furutani mean by this?
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>>483456497
It put the monkeyfags on suicide watch for years. Glad Freeza put the chimps back in their places. Matter of time before Vegeta comes crawling back to his master for forgiveness.
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>>483456497
>>483456670
>>483457484
>>483457680
>>483461259
>>483461785
Stop replying to yourself and go back to /a/
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>>483461597
Art improvement aside it's so dumb how much better Black looks than Golden, what was Toriyama thinking when he removed Freeza's iconic shoulder gems? I also appreciate how Freeza's hands and feet are now clad too, it sells the idea of its new color being bioarmor more
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>>483461683
Futanari sees the gold in people's need for GT dlc
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>>483461965
>braindamaged schizo screeching over people talking about DB
Take your meds.
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>>483462189
/dbs/ is that way
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>>483461683
>>483462180
Stop replying to yourself.
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>>483461597
>Defending that shit
Bait used to be believable.
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>>483462180
>GT hypothetical DLC still not announced
>Daima's was confirmed in the very same video they revealed there would be DLC
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>>483461597
His fully powered black form will remove the white parts and be called Vanta Black Frieza
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>>483462332
Keep seething. Frieza is canonically the strongest mortal in the universe now and there's nothing your two heroes can do about it.
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i want to start modding xenoverse
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>>483462112
Yeah. Gives Frieza a more emperor image while also not forgoing his base form's own appeal as well. I guess Toriyama just wanted to see a SS inspired Frieza first and foremost.
@483462565
Try harder.
>>483462618
Stop spoiling the manga.
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>>483462656
>>483462903
At least you've given up pretending you weren't just spam replying to yourself.
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>>483462586
See >>483462383
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>>483461683
Imagine seeing the revival of the legendary Tenkaichi saga and having content yet to be animated confirmed before your 28yo anime
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>>483462968
>doubles down even harder
Keep crying. Frieza has fried your brain. Just accept you chose the inferior race to worship.
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>>483463719
Crazy how upset you are that you can't reply to yourself in peace anymore.
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>>483463698
>>483463448
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>>483461683
>>483463698
I guess they didn't want to step into the grand turd
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>>483456497
"...There goes Toyo, using that stupid stock expression again." In regards to the ending, I didn't really care. How could I, at this point? I'm just along for the ride and go "neat" or "that's dumb" every once in a while.
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>>483463796
Crazy how you think everyone who doesn't share your opinion is the same person. So which monkeyfag are you? Gokufag? Vegetafag? Brolyfag? Maybe Gohanfag?
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>>483463978
>>483464102
>>483463796
>>483463698
>>483462968
this is the same person btw.
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>>483464138
>Devolve into /dbs/ schizo talk about whatever tribalism he developed into that shithole
Keep that for your containment thread.
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>>483464350
So which one are you? You're seething mighty hard over Frieza out of nowhere so I assume you have to be a monkeyfag. I'm just gonna guess you're a Vegetafag since pic related is basically you.
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When will it end?
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Ignore /dbs/ rejects and focus on enjoying DB, guys.
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>>483464815
Stop replying to the /dbs/ reject.
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>>483464994
>>483465004
Same autist. DB general, retard.
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>>483464815
freeza really managed to reach beerus' level. hell he might even be stronger than him now.
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>>483465412
so then why are you chimping out over people discussing stuff from the dbs manga?
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>>483464994
Can't, 10 hours maintenamce for breakers...
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>>483465412
>3 seconds between posts
>"same autist"
Go back and never come back.
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>>483456390
You can thank Breakers for that.
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>>483460949
That too, but also the fact that it's a blatant transition form that lacks the cool elements of the previous and next one
Somewhat similar to why I don't like semiperfect cell
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>>483467551
>Somewhat similar to why I don't like semiperfect cell
Is it the ugly face and lack of wings?
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>>483466704
Stop talking about Black Frieza /dbs/ schizo.
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>>483464815
>>483464994
>>483465004
>/dbs/ reject is trying to falseflag after getting mad again
To /dbs/ you go.
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>>483464815
>So which one are you?
Someone who isn't just here seething because he got banned from /a/ again. Unlike you.
It's crazy how you keep coming here whenever you get bullied too much in your native shithole.
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>>483467641
Since you mention the face let's put it like this
Yeah, I don't like semiperfect's face, it doesn't look monstrous like imperfect, it doesn't look smug like perfect, it just looks silly to me
Super Baby 1 doesn't look like a corrupted Vegeta like base and it doesn't look like Baby with a mutated saiyan body like 2, it just looks like Vegeta with out of place accessories on his body
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Better Vegeta Baby than Vegeta Baby (stronger too)
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>>483461597
Wait, they made Black Freeza because black credit cards are higher level than golden credit cards? That's so dumb I actually like it
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>>483461965
This schizo is entrenched deep, it’s going to take a concerted effort to call out their sock puppet replies and forced discussion of DBO, Black Frieza, and Neko Majin.
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>>483468669
>had the opportunity to make a baby goku
>instead vegeta got possessed TWICE
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>>483467908
>>483467732
You are immensely autistic. Frieza fucks your wife in your sleep.
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>>483468873
Also forgot sandland
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>>483468873
>>483468117
Black Frieza lives in your head for free.
>>483468853
That's the DB charm for you. Idiots were pretending that there was gonna be some deep and complex motivation to the Black Frieza form just because Golden Frieza was made to mock the Super Saiyans.
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Step into the Grand Tour or I'm not fucking buying.
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>>483469734
it's really cute how you have no control over those topics and can't do anything t stop them so you seethe uncontrollably
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>>483468853
Frieza was based on corrupt Japanese landsharks from the 80s.
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>>483461683
There’s no Daima shit in sparking zero
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>>483470241
Anon...
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>>483453081
>https://youtu.be/UBQyAnQpZk [Error]
Why does this one link not work?
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>>483469795
Cope
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I hate anti-GT fags so much especially when they eat up the final arc of Z and Super like fat Americans eat burgers. The quality of the Super anime was garbage, GT is a step too removed from the usual quality of the seres? It has far better character designs than the trash Super shit all over our screens. Just shut the fuck up and Kill yourself.
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>>483469617
You are immensely mad, your place is in /dbs/
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>>483470910
Cope about what?
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>>483470038
Try that again once you stopped gritting your teeth.
>>483470958
>He's tired of responding to himself in defense of Toyotaro's fanfic so now the /dbs/ reject is back to simping for GT
Get new material, holy shit.
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I'm not whoever you're talking about schizo and I hid all replies to my post. End yourself anti-GT shitposter.
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>>483470958
Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr > U6 Saiyan downies.
>>483471428
>/dbs/tard blatantly outing himself
The manga is canon. Cope and seethe back to your psych ward.
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>>483471558
>Didn't dare actually reply
>>483471604
>No u
You're so mad I interrupted your attempt to reply to yourself again.
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>>483470038
I can accept that nobody wants or cares to have those discussions so I don’t samefag back and forth to discussions to make it seem like people give a shit.
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>>483471805
>new cope
adorable
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>>483470958
>>483471558
GT isn't good, and no amount of revisionist nonsense will change it.
Pan deserved better.
Super Saiyan 4 deserved better.
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>>483471604
>The manga is canon
You sure about that?
>>483471805
Sandland's discussion after the survey was pretty genuine, I was part of it.
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>>483471789
>>483471805
Same schizo
>>483472079
That doesn't say anything about the manga schizo. Your cope is beyond pathetic.
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Can't see your shitposts and that's a good thing.
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>>483472171
>DBS Broly following the anime with the manga being a seperate thing Toriyama doesn't know what will happen in means nothing!
You're not even convincing yourself with that.
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How much Saiyan blood to these brats have?
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>>483472020
And you did not post >>483456497
>>483456670
>>483457484
>>483457680
>>483459852
>>483460959
Rhetorical question, there are only a dozen or so consistent posters here so it’s incredibly obvious when someone is samefagging, the thread is never busy.
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>>483472483
>forcing his delusion into what Toriyama actually said
Animefags still mad their slop ended over half a decade ago and manga continues the story.
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>>483472367
And yet it still make you seethe
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>>483472557
>people responding to a question = samefagging
Actual mental illness. Do you act like this in real life too?
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>>483472731
>You made Toriyama write that!
Cope. Enjoy your fanfic.
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>>483411760
Wait, does she flirt with him in Breakers?

>>483452723
Sure, it's just that BT3 still had plenty of exceptions, Burter and Nam were pretty strong in it, and occasionally other characters you wouldn't expect to be that strong like Super 13, are pretty solid.

A bunch of times characters are stronger than producers expect, so I won't be surprised if some random character ends up being up there, it happens once in a while, even if in general the usual suspects are up there.
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>>483472879
It's pretty obvious you were samefagging.
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>>483472504
Less than this lady has.
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>>483472504
Goku Jr is 1/64th Saiyan
>Goku(Full blood) > Gohan(1/2) > Pan(1/4) > Pan's child(1/8) > Pan's grandchild(1/16) > Pan's great-grandchild/Goku Jr's parent(1/32) > Goku Jr(1/64)

Meanwhile Vegeta Jr is 1/32nd Saiyan
>Vegeta(Full blood) > Trunks/Bra(1/2) > Trunks/Bra's child(1/4) > Trunks/Bra's grandchild(1/8) > Trunks/Bra's great-grandchild/Vegeta Jr's mom(1/16) > Vegeta Jr(1/32)
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>>483473090
I wonder which lucky human got to bang her.
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>>483473560
It was me.
I did.
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>>483472919
>>483473073
Same schizo
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>>483473395
I thought Goku Jr. was Pan's grandkid
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>>483473090
>more saiyan blood than the Jrs
>can't go super saiyan like them
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>>483473914
Where was that ever said?
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>>483473560
Some rando with black hair.
>>483473826
That was a Funi fuckup. She's actually his great great grandma. Pan is 109-110 in EoGT while Goku Jr is like 9. Should have been obvious.
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>>483473914
My headcanon is that she can, and she taught Vegeta Jr. how to transform as well.
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>>483473826
That's Garlic Jr.
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>>483473914
We don't know if Vegeta Jr's mom can go SS or not. We only see her for like a minute.
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>>483474361
Boss they're messing with the timelines again! They're tryin' to make Garlic Jr. a Saiyan!
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>>483474003
>>483474237
>>483474420
Anons she's literally the president of Capaule Corp. She's clearly not a fighter just like Bulma and Bra weren't fighters.

Vegeta Jr didn't even know what SS was and was surprised Goku Jr could do the same thing which makes it sound like he thought only he could do it.
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>>483474656
tbf trunks was also the president of capsule corp during gt and he's a fighter.
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>>483474656
Well I guess GT Trunks can't go Super Saiyan either OH WAIT
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>>483474861
>>483474906
Trunks barely fought at that point and even then, Vegeta Jr's mom most likely isn't a fighter and focuses solely on the company. She can't go Super Saiyan or else Vegeta Jr wouldn't be all too surprised someone else could transform too like he was with Goku Jr.
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>>483474656
This is bait
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>>483475162
Retard >>483475116
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>>483474656
>>483475116
This is your headcanon, an assumption, not anything official. We don't have an official answer. Given how easy it was for Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. and even Goten, it wouldn't be a surprise if she could as well, even if she's not especially strong.
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>>483475478
It's more convincing than your own retarded headcanon that she could totally go Super Saiyan when her brief appearance doesn't support it. Pan and Bra never transformed I doubt that changed during the 100 year gap either. Vegeta Jr's mom is a female Saiyan hybrid like them and nothing points to her being a fighter like Pan and more like Bra. And you somehow think she somehow can transform despite Vegeta Jr's words.
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>>483475116
>>483475162
>Capsule Corp. President Trunks literally goes Super Saiyan
What a dumbass
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>>483475771
nta but we know pan taught goku jr how to fight but who taught vegeta jr how to fight? that's why i could see the argument about his mom having that ability.
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>>483475771
You are trying to pass off headcanon as truth. I could just as easily say she's like Trunks. Are you even aware of what the line is in the original Japanese?
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>>483475162
>Literally weaker than a pile of bricks
Trunks is so pathetic
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>>483475781
And yet that doesn't mean Vegeta Jr's mom could do the same dumbass. We have nothing to show she was ever a fighter like Trunks and she's 30 years old.
>>483475985
It could have easily been that Vegeta Jr taught himself or maybe his dad was a fighter or he learned from his own grandparent. Various possibilities but more likely than Vegeta Jr being taught by his mom who clearly does not look like a fighter and is too busy as company president.
>>483475989
Except nothing supports it.
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>>483476258
>and is too busy as company president.
She told her subordinate to fuck off so she can watch her son fight in the tournament. She ditched a meeting to see her son fight. Clearly she has her priorities. Not too much different from when Trunks ditched meetings to go do his own thing.
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This is why I have no respect for GTfags. They'll swear up and down that their headcanon should be the only acceptable truth and throw a fit if you present any alternative. It's no wonder they hate Super with such seething, autistic rage, because it breaks decades of headcanon and justification every other moment.
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>>483476454
Her loving her son over the business doesn't mean she's a fighter who can totally go Super Saiyan. As I said, Vegeta Jr's words to Goku Jr made it sound like Vegeta thought only he could turn "blonde" and was surprised someone else could do so as well. If his mom could do the same thing, he wouldn't be that surprised.
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>>483476637
You could easily just spin it around and have it be that Vegeta Jr thought that transformation was exclusive to his own family and was surprised someone outside his family could transform too. I don't think that dialogue really says one way or another if Vegeta Jr's mom could transform or not. We only see her for a minute.
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>>483475771
>>483476258
Nothing actually supports your headcanon! We see less than a minute of her! We don't fucking know if she can or can't officially! She could be the current World Champion, she could go out at night playing Batman against criminals, she could have a hundred robot husbands she sleeps with on a nightly basis!
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>>483476637
Goku Jr. wasn't much of a fucking fighter in spite of Pan's best efforts and he went Super Saiyan almost unconsciously. Jesus Christ do you actually watch the stuff you're talking about?
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>>483476947
>she could have a hundred robot husbands she sleeps with on a nightly basis!
Headcanon accepted. That's why she goes there alone.
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>>483477484
Toyofags are also mad as usual
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>>483476947
>We don't fucking know if she can or can't officially!
Her being president shows she's clearly not a fighter.
>but Trunks
Not a good comparison at all
>She could be the current World Champion
I'm certain Pan or someone else would have recognized her as such.
>>483477151
You moron. Goku Jr was still being trained by Pan even if he wasn't into it. Can you say the same for Vegeta Jr's mom?
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>>483477484
>>483477595
samebro
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>>483477484
>>483477595
Samebitch
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>>483477939
This is your headcanon, not an official statement. You can justify it all you want, but you're going to need to accept that.
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>>483478123
>>483478470
>Seething twice
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>>483477939
Did you or did you not actually watch the shit you're talking about you toe sucking smoothbrain?
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>>483478571
Why the earring? he looks gay
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>some people don't think this 30 year old hag can become a super saiyan
who do you think helped her son out
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>>483478810
oh she actually cute
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>>483478502
No you don’t get it. Because there are no official statements I can pretend SDBH, DBO and Neko Majin is relevant but (you) can’t say anything from GT or Z filler is relevant ever
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>>483478720
Nice inspect element.
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>>483478697
I did retard. Now it's your turn.
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>>483478810
Goku should cuck Vegeta and bang his mom. It would be like repeating history.
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>>483478978
Answer me this: does Goku Jr. actually know how to fight normally?
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>>483478571
>XV2
I would prefer him to debut in a good game
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>>483478810
She can but she still lost to my cock. That's how Vegeta Jr was made.
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>>483478502
My headcanon is backed up by facts while yours is backed up by nothing.
>>483478929
>warped by victim complex syndrome
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>>483479136
Fuck off Kakabrat she's MINE!
I saw her first!
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>>483479321
Whatever, zitface. I'll kick your ass.
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>>483479150
>super saiyan mom lost to weak human cock
that's exactly why she's no super saiyan
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>>483479321
Your headcanon can't match his >>483479150
His is stronger, and I believe it
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>>483479138
He was trained by Pan but lacked the interest and confidence in actually putting it into action. Just like with Gohan.

I know this because I actually watched the special. Something you clearly did not.
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>>483479497
>He thinks you can beat the cock
What a moron
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>>483479501
His headcanon was crushed by this>>483479497
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So assuming there really is 0 OG, GT and Movies representation in the base game like doomers say, how do they fill the 30 mystery slot?
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>>483479702
>coping
the woman got dicked by a weak ass human. she's no super saiyan. her son becoming one was a happy accident.
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>>483479671
His fighting skills were effectively on instinct, not mirroring the lessons Pan gave him. He didn't even remember beating Lord Yao, he thought momma bear did.

BUT

By the time of the World Tournament, he was actually able to show both drive and fighting skill, meaning his experience after meeting his namesake got him to take things more seriously.

He wasn't like Gohan.
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Why do people assume Vegeta Jr's dad was a weakling?
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>>483480217
Because he named his son Vegeta Jr.
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>>483479857
>>483480028
The cock is too strong, even full blooded Saiyans lose to the cock, no matter how strong they are
To claim otherwise is the biggest cope of all, and proof of you needing correction
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>>483480217
Because it would break his headcanon otherwise.
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>>483480085
>His fighting skills were effectively on instinct, not mirroring the lessons Pan gave him. He didn't even remember beating Lord Yao, he thought momma bear did.
So what? That doesn't invalidate all the training he was already doing with Pan prior. It just showed that he did absorb some of it in with the latent potential he already had. Just like with Gohan. He simply lacked the confidence to bring it out.

And with everything else you said, he became more confident by the 64th Tenkaichi Budokai but so did Gohan after he dropped his balls after the fight with Vegeta.
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>>483480217
Yeah, human cock is very powerful. Krillin is a planet buster.
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>>483480273
No! Goku would NEVER lose to the cock! I won't believe it, ever!
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>>483480217
he's an earthling.
>>483480269
this. what man names his own son after another man?
>>483480273
full blooded saiyans lose to the cocks of other full blooded saiyans. imagine a saiyan hybrid getting beat the fuck out by the cock of a fucking earthling.
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>>483480669
>what man names his own son after another man?
Goku named his son after his grandpa. Why can't Vegeta Jr's dad who is coming into the family choose to go with the name of his wife's great great grandfather out of respect? It could have been a shared decision between both of them to name their child after her great great grandfather.
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>>483480014
Nobody say there's no OG DB, we already saw kid Goku and there's something about "fighting the Red Ribbon army" in the game (and can't be SH because that's DLC).
OGDB is in. Canon movies are in. Gran Taco is out.
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Why are you all assuming there was a father? She could have gotten a turkey baster and attached it to a pumping machine. There's no dad at the tournament, she's probably not even married.
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https://youtu.be/NDGeWO_am1c?si=qcRmON2XM9QiYw0y
New character trailer
>US Prime Time
Yeah, I'm thinking GT.
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>>483480876
>there's something about "fighting the Red Ribbon army" in the game
That's Dr. Gero
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>>483480872
yeah. pan even said that they gave goku jr his name because he looked like the original goku. maybe the same was with vegeta jr. his mom and the rest of the family remarked the similarities in appearances between him and the previous vegeta so they gave him the name.
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You hate GT because Pan and Bra didn't go Super Saiyan. I get it... they're your waifu, you need to let it go already. Stop hating GT for that.
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>>483480990
Unexpected
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>>483480971
What is wrong with you? Why is it unbelievable to you that she could have either had a one-night stand with some guy and gave birth to Vegeta Jr or she's happily married(or widowed) and Vegeta Jr is the result of their love?
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>>483480971
Another point in the robot husbands column.
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>>483480990
>woah the hour aligns with burger time nicely that must mean they are showing a character from the spin-off exactly as japanese as the other series and movies that appear in the game!
Are you genuinely stupid anon?
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>>483481237
you are only going with this robot husbands orgy because vegeta jr's mom is an expy of bulma the original whore.
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>>483481229
She's too busy being Capsule Corp. President to have a loving relationship or one night stand.
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>>483481032
I don't think they would use "Red Ribbon army" JUST for Gero (literally the only person who ever gave a shit about the army after OG DB and before SH), it's more likely to be General Blue. Either way, kid Goku is in, so we know OG DB is in the base game.
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>>483480971
>There's no dad at the tournament
maybe he was at work...
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>>483481407
Well Bulma was a whore, Bra was a whore, it stands to reason that this Saiyan Bulma is a whore too.
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>>483481415
So busy being president that she ditched a meeting to go see her son kick another kid's ass at the tournament.
>>483481543
>at work
>married to the richest woman on the planet
>said woman can dump her duties to go watch her son fight
No way. He's either dead or a deadbeat.
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>>483481590
just because her similar-looking ancestors were whores does not mean she has to continue in that legacy.
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>>483481936
Well given what she's wearing here with that exposed midriff >>483478810 she's definitely not beating the allegations.
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>>483481079
Because of power scaling in GT, Pan is already SSJ tier and could bitch slap the likes of Namek Frieza, evidenced by the fact that she easily put Android 20 in a headlock. She doesn't need to go blonde, it would have added nothing to the story, she would still be just another character that needed saving from Goku regardless.
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>>483481275
just admit you don't anything about marketing
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>>483482109
next you cunts will claim she doesn't even know who vegeta jr's dad is because she's been with so many guys.
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So you're telling me this monkey Bulma might be the one who taught Vegeta Jr. to go Super Saiyan, probably has no human husband but may be pulling a Towa and made a robot fucktoy or ten to satisfy her in ways a weaker human could not, and would rather see her son beat the shit out of a little Goku than her job.

Did I get all this right?
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>>483477484
>turning the final Kamehameha back into a generic Kamehameha
cringe
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>>483482112
Android 20 isn't stronger than Namek Frieza and iirc, Pan caught 20 off guard.
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>>483482112
If that's the case what about everyone else? Why do they "need" to go Super Saiyan still? Vegeta literally needed to be saved by Goku on multiple occasions and he's still able to go Super Saiyan.
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>>483482360
Yes. Wild how much /dbg/ has made this Bulma into an absolute degenerate that puts her ancestors to shame.
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>>483482360
>or ten
A hundred, but yes, it otherwise all checks out.
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>>483482109
>>483478810
Honestly given that haircut I bet she has multiple men and women she has as fuckbuddies.
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>>483482360
>So you're telling me this monkey Bulma might be the one who taught Vegeta Jr. to go Super Saiyan
It's not like Pan taught Goku Jr how to go Super Saiyan. He did it on his own. Why couldn't Vegeta Jr do the same? His mom COULD potentially have taught him how to fight if she is/was a fighter.
>probably has no human husband but may be pulling a Towa and made a robot fucktoy or ten to satisfy her in ways a weaker human could not,
A human knocked her up and she gave birth to Vegeta Jr. There's no getting around it. Whether that guy is still around or not is the question since this was a period where the DBs weren't around so if you die, you stay dead. We don't know enough about this new gen Bulma but it's possible she could also be like the old Bulma and Bra and have quite the way with men.
>and would rather see her son beat the shit out of a little Goku than her job.
Well yeah. That part is actually true.
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>>483481079
I hate GT for what it did to Goku.
Much like I hate Super for what it did to Goku.
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>>483482968
Then it would be almost impossible to pinpoint who Vegeta Jr's dad really is if his mom has been with so many guys in the past.
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>>483482494
Vegeta was impressed by Gero's speed and even lost track of him, that would never have happened against Frieza. On top of that, Gero can absorb ki attacks and get stronger from them while being much smarter and cunning than Frieza. So, even if Frieza has stronger physical feats, which is doubtful given the 19 vs Vegeta fight, Gero has superior speed and ki absorbing tech. Gero wins.

>>483482585
Vegeta, Gohan, Goten and Trunks are actually integral to the plot and helped move arcs along with their transformation. Also, outside of Vegeta, GT did nothing with those other characters, none of them got new forms because it would add nothing to the plot of Goku Time.
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>>483482968
she got that fasha haircut. like a true dirty saiyan whore.
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>>483483038
I see no actual proof she had a human partner. She had a kid using human sperm, but sperm banks exist for a reason. And IF she's able to go Super Saiyan, she might accidentally crush the pelvis of any normal human man she's with, ergo, the machine fucktoys that can handle Super Saiyan pussy.
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>>483483314
>Vegeta was impressed by Gero's speed and even lost track of him,
Because 20 doesn't have a ki signal for him to track. Did you forget that part?
>Gero can absorb ki attacks and get stronger from them while being much smarter and cunning than Frieza
So smart that he chose not to update his data and his calculations were hilariously off and backfired on him and 19?
>So, even if Frieza has stronger physical feats, which is doubtful given the 19 vs Vegeta fight
Final Form Frieza would beat those two. Sure everyone got stronger from the 3 year timeskip but 19 battled a sick SS Goku and was getting his ass kicked by that Goku in the beginning before he stole ki from Goku.

If Frieza doesn't give him any ki, he could handle 19 and 20. Gero only has his ki absorbing tech that would make him a threat to Frieza but he has no speed or power feats over him.
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She's actually Vegeta Jr's father.
She's a futa.
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>>483480990
Daymn, we're getting two trailers in one month? And pretty sure Anime Expo is going to have another trailer. Reveals are gonna get stacked!
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this degeneracy is getting worse and worse...
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>>483483503
You watch too much porn. She had normal sex with a normal human and gave birth to Vegeta Jr. Whether that guy is still around or not is unknown. She COULD have a gang of guys on the ready if Vegeta Jr's dad is dead.

And we still don't know if she really can become a Super Saiyan or not.
>>483483753
>South Park
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>>483483876
oh boy I can't wait for another ToP nobody to be revealed!
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>>483484035
Seething Movie/GT fag.
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Shame on you anons for desecrating her name like this. She's just a loving mother who supports her son whooping other kids' asses.
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>>483484035
Look man, I'm going to main Katopesla if he ever gets added.
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>>483483998
>She had normal sex with a normal human
Prove it, Springer
Show me the father
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>>483484260
I desecrated that pussy.
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The nameless Bulma clone had sex with me. I'm the father.
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>>483484260
Bulmas are never pure.
Not even Leggings is pure.
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Even if no other gt characters are in, ss4 gogeta will be. It wouldn't be tenkaichi without him and kid buu fucking everyone up.
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>>483484301
Show me her robot orgy.
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>>483484260
Dude Bulma was a whore and so was her daughter. You mean to tell me her great great great granddaughter who looks almost exactly like her ISN'T a whore too? 50 bucks she tries to hit on the tournament announcer after the tournament is over.
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>>483484729
>>483484491
>nooo they have to do what their ancestors did!!!!
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>>483484301
Hey don't you go dragging any other names through the mud with this!
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>>483484881
Well yeah. Look at Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr.
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>>483484881
Like Goku Jr.
And Vegeta Jr.
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>>483484927
>springer gets oddly defensive
something you want to confess?
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>>483484592
That's illegal though

>>483484927
You're dead to me
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Is Tights a lesbo or something? She's 13 years older than Bulma and never married.
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>>483485024
>>483485090
I don't recall Goku Jr being obsessed with fighting or Vegeta Jr killing people.
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>>483484592
Okay but I warn you, she's a size queen.

>>483484927
Ah, there's one of them right now!
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>>483484729
I’m surprised you didn’t say gyatt underage newfag
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>>483485283
She's just in love with her work. Family life bores her.
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>>483485278
>That's illegal though
It should also be illegal to slander a person's name.
>>483485430
>Okay but I warn you, she's a size queen.
She has her loving husband who gave her a wonderful son. That is all she needs.
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>>483485737
odd she came to the tournament without this so called loving husband
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>>483485901
Husband was either at work or he's dead.
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>>483485278
>>483485430
Do NOT start making accusations like that!
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>>483486251
>gets increasingly erratic
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>>483486251
...You fucked that monkey, didn't you, Autobot?
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>>483486251
So that's why Vegeta Jr. didn't know what his transformation was called...
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>>483473090
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i'm sure vegeta wouldn't appreciate you guys talking shit about his mom
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>>483487219
Ruined
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>>483487275
But what about his 12 ton helicopter parent dad?
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>>483487531
springer is NOT his father....
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>>483484927
>>483486251
What are you doing here /m/? Or is it /co/?
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>>483487715
>What are you doing here /m/?
Isn't it obvious? Demanding the Pirate Robot be in SZ.
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>>483487928
Fantastic taste
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>>483487928
based
carry on
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>>483487456
Moonsister...
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>>483488276
I will fuck her. I will grab those pigtails and fuck her until she breaks.
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You know if she could take it from someone like that, it's all the more reason she could go blonde
Just saiyan'
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>>483487692
I'll channel the artistic talents of ratbat and prove otherwise
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i ain't reading all that, but wanting the pirate robot is pretty based in my book so whatever he was arguing was right
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>>483487928
I would have said based but I got sick of fighting him in Kakarot.
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>>483480990
What's the theme going to be this time?
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>>483487928
God, if only...
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>>483472045
>gt bad b-but ss4 gud
It's fine if you want to fuck the loli but stop pretending SS4 is a redeeming asset and not the same edgy fanfic shit as the writing. Transformations peaked with SS1 and everything after it was worse than the previous.
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>>483488531
Vegeta Jr's mama married a normal human being and gave birth to Vegeta Jr. She is also the president of Capsule Corp and has no interest in being a fighter.
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>>483487928
You fucker, now I'm mad because there's no way in hell they'd add that in!
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>>483488996
I see no wedding ring
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>>483468873
>>483469734
>hating on neko majin and chadland
Fake fans. I bet you still seethe to this day about Arale making it into BT3 over Super Saiyan 7 Evolved Deathwing the Elder Hedgehog (GT)
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>>483489215
I saw no wedding rings on Goku/Chi Chi, Vegeta/Bulma or Krillin/18.
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>>483489306
Only one of those could even be remotely considered a "normal" human
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>>483489423
Why does that have any relevance to anything>
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>>483484035
I hope the entire trailer is ToP characters.
Just add like another 10 ToP characters to the game to just Annihilate the hopes and dreams of anyone expecting GT characters permanently.
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>>483489215
Wedding rings are a westoid concept.
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>>483489609
How many times will you keep replying to the same post? You really can't shut up about GT.
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>>483484035
This but unironically.

>>483484210
Fuck off movies are based, it's only GTfags that hate Super for replacing them.
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>>483488996
Oh she married all right, but not any normal human. She went for someone strong enough to satisfy her.

>>483489215
>>483478810
Right arm, around the wrist
>Anon those are too big-
They ain't made for human fingers
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>>483489617
All Bulmas are from West City
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>>483489726
Fuck you nigger.
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>>483488681
Jesus, that's a name I haven't heard in a long time...
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>>483480990
The reveal will be... Jiya from the Galactic Patrol series!
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>>483489815
That just means that her husband is strong even for Earthling standards. We got Uub so it's not impossible and by Earthling standards, Krillin, Tien and Yamcha were also strong.
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>>483490576
>Yamcha finally banged a Bulma
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>>483490890
Yamcha isn't banging or doing anything ever again thanks to his VA.
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>>483490890
Impossible. Unless Yamcha found someone at some point late in his life.
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okay everyone shut the hell up about bulma degeneracy
what ToP rando will get in next
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>>483491407
It's his time to shine
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>>483491407
Cabba hasn't been revealed yet right?
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>>483491407
>GoD Toppo
>Giant Bergamo
>Ribrianne (Base, Giant)
>Rozie
>Katopesla
>Anilaza
>Ganos (Base, Thunderbird)
>Obuni
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Bulma Jr is the new cock carousel
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>>483491407
Damon. Accurate hurtboxes included.
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>>483460219
I think he did Revenge Death Ball and maybe a generic ki blast, but yeah, he barely has anything. Which makes you wonder why Toei even gave him a form between his base and his 2nd Super form.
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>>483492957
>Accurate hurtboxes
Accurate hurtboxes don't exist in Tenkaichi
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Why the fuck do people bitch about super stuff vs GT stuff getting in Sparking Zero, I want both to get in as well as movies because thats the point of tenkaichi games. Hell I would like to see DBH and video game characters to get in too from DLC because it'd be cool even if it'll never happen
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>>483482112
>Pan is already SSJ tier and could bitch slap the likes of Namek Frieza,
Even by the start of the Android saga that was barely a feat.
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I just want some Daima information already at leaste Goku and Shin's new comrades cute girl and old man, buff guy and mascot character? which is it gonna be those are the only options really
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>>483495869
Are you retarded?
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>>483495887
we'll probably get option 1 and 4.
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>>483480639
The cock is an opponent not even Goku could defeat.
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ChiChi bros, this trailer for sure......
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>>483496004
The fact that not even 3 chapter into the new arc Frieza was already gone should tell you how little the feat of "Can beat Frieza" matters/
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>>483495096
>Why the fuck do people bitch about super stuff vs GT stuff getting in Sparking Zero, I want both to get in as well as movies because thats the point of tenkaichi games
So do I but the fact of the matter is there are not enough slots for all of them
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Where did this whole "Goku and Shin are getting a Dragon Quest party" rumor start? I don't even expect Shin to really be a major character, just escort Goku to the demon realm and fuck of like usual. The very first leak that said Daima was about Goku and Shin being turned into kids was clearly missing context since it didn't even mention that everyone else turned into kids as well.
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>>483477595
Ehm gamma burst flash, manga vegeta blue evolved
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>>483477484
My heroes...
I feel so safe with them around...
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>>483498081
You won't when I'm done with them!
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>>483495887
I hope they're tall characters for some contrast. Wouldn't want a party of 4 midgets.
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>>483497836
Nowhere except in your dissociative mind.
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>>483501969
cool and unique hope he makes it
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>>483491407
Caway. Weapon materialization is cool. And while she's sex, Sparking Zero's art style probably won't do her any justice, especially in the chest department.
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>>483453081
Note is pure!
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>>483502363
>Nowhere except in your dissociative mind.
I'm not the one that brings up "Goku, Shin and their 2 new companions" every time the Daima DLC comes up
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>>483503553
>Weapon materialization is cool.
I'd be funny when she makes it over Gas.
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>>483505338
Gas is manga land exclusive until he appears in any animated content. How many times will this need to be said?
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>>483487928
https://youtu.be/MOFgrb0eLzk?si=olgcdNCyEBquQycm
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Are you going to buy her skin?
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>>483506870
Unfortunately.
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Post cac autism
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>>483447930
>lv.1: Haze Shenron with Rage Shenron assist
>Lv.2: Oceanus Shenron with Naturon Shenron assist
>lv.3: Syn with Eis and Nova assists.
>lv.4: Omega Shenron
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How long will the upcoming SZ video be?
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>>483456497
I never saw the leaks, just the chapter in full when it came out.
I laughed my sides into orbit
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>>483470958
>racism out of nowhere
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It's out (for those who care).
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>>483512818
Same. Freeza showing up, oneshotting everyone and ending the fight and then simply leaving was so funny
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>>483497836
it started from the rumor that goku and shin will be joined by two other characters
since goku is already a top tier martial artist and shin is basically a priest, people want to imagine that the other two won't just be two more martial artists but actually bring something to the table, like a thief or a monster tamer
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>>483475162
JUST BLOW THE BRICKS UP WITH KI YOU DUMBASS
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>>483512742
less than 7 hours
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Participating in discussion about Sparking Zero with the Dragon Ball community has made me hate and despise the Dragon Ball community.

You guys fucking suck so much ass.
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>>483514130
Or you know, stop holding it up and throw it to the side.
God, Trunks is so fucking useless.
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>>483512742
If it's anything like other, earlier Character Trailers it'll be about 3 minutes long and will reveal roughly 6-12 new characters.
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>>483514368
Don't engage ESLs
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>>483514978
Wait, shit is that why so many of them have shitty reading comprehension and/or can't write proper sentences?

Fuck. I just realized I spent the last 2 hours arguing with stupid fucking ESL retards as if they were real people.
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>>483515415
Being fair, plenty of those with English as their first language seem to have only half their normal IQ when talking about Dragon Ball.
Many of them are Gohanfags.
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>>483515415
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hello it's me cell. i play on the dsi.
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>>483516741
Goku hit you with a TOD
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>>483516790
Does Ultimate Butoden have ToD combos?
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>>483480990
This will make or break the game
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>>483480990
Why do people even want fucking GT of all things?
GT was terrible. It was so fucking terrible, such a massive flop that it literally killed the franchise for over a decade.

Like I really, really want to know what the fucking obsession from western audiences is with god damn GT.
The Japanese fans literally make fun of us because so many western fans seem to like the dumpster fire that is GT.

During that last hour long stream the Japs were fucking mocking us in the stream chat over it.
And they're right to do it too, GT fucking sucks ass.
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>>483519504
GT the show sucked major ass
GT the video game characters are great and utterly eclipse the source material
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>>483520093
No.
The video game characters also fucking suck.
I don't want more Gokus and Bejitas, it's fucking boring.
As for the villains, the designs are ass, their movesets are the most boring shit imaginable, they're just fucking lame.

Fuck you. GT and it's characters are complete ass in all their incarnations and you only like them because you have nostalgia from playing BT3 when you were 12 years old because they were the most powerful characters in that game.
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>>483520437
>you only like them because you have nostalgia from playing BT3 when you were 12 years old because they were the most powerful characters in that game.
and what of it?
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>>483519504
GT has cool characters and cool ideas, it's a no-brainer why folks would want them in a-

>>483520437
Ah, you're just lashing out. Carry on, then.
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>>483520735
>cool characters and cool ideas
No.
Shit characters.
Terrible ideas.
Literally almost killed the franchise.
>>483520615
Fuck your nostalgia. I want to play a good game, not a nostalgic game.
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>>483520874
You're just being tsundere.
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>>483520874
this is a character-based spectacle game. The more characters and the more character interactions and the more big flashy attacks the better the game.
Add GT characters? The game is better.
Add Super Hero characters? The game is better.
Add Manga Original characters? The game is better.
Add Garlic Jr? The game is better.
Add Mamba? The game is better
Add Kuriza? The game is better.
Add Beelzebub? The game is better.
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>>483521445
This would only be true if adding GT characters did not come at the expense of NOT adding Z, OG or Super characters.
Which, since the roster is not infinite in size, it does.

Like, I'm fine with GT being DLC, I just don't want it in the base game because that means like 20 other characters from other parts of the franchise are never put into the game and never will be.
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Was able to finish my SDBH autism for MM5 as of now, the last two SECs will be revealed soon, probably in 24 hours or so depending on the fuckery of timezones. Here's to hoping the last two SECs of MM5 don't make me want to jump off a cliff and that MM5-SEC is the last UR/SEC MUI Goku card.
>Link
https://rentry.org/mm5decks
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Reminder that they still haven't oficially revealed base form Trunks (Super) outsde of the demo. They also haven't revealed base form Trunks (Melee) at all.
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>>483519504
>Japanese fans literally make fun of us because so many western fans seem to like the dumpster fire that is GT.
Fake as fuck, Japs fucking love GT more than any Mexican ever could. Absolute delusion if you think any other way, especially when they keep making GT/SSJ4 merch to this day, nevermind the GT wank that would happen in Heroes because it's a known moneymaker
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>>483470958
What if I told you that GT, 2nd half of Buu saga, and Super all fucking suck then
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>>483512345
My cac was once sent on a mission to defeat a powerful enemy sent by Towa, as the fight went on, the enemy revealed her ability to use powerful and paralyzing electrical attacks, to the point where Dralloc (seen here) couldn't lay a finger on them, this enemy had learned to manipulate her ability so well, Dralloc's ki blasts were useless, some even being redirected right back at him, desperate to help Dralloc and prevent time from being skewed further, The Supreme Kai of Time had sent a majin, who was Dralloc's partner previously, the enemy realized her electric attacks were useless as the majin's body didn't conduct the electricity, however even with this, the majin herself was no match either, as the enemy turned her attention on Dralloc, he had 2 choices, run or die fighting, as he braced himself for her attack, he was suddenly enveloped by his majin ally, her rubbery skin forming a protective coating over his body, the majin dubbed it, "majin armor!" Dralloc, initially confused realized he was safe from her attacks as he launched a furious combination at the enemy, she grew desperate and attacked relentlessly as the majin absorbed most of the damage, Dralloc, sensing his ally's dropping ki had instructed his ally to form a blade with their combined right arms, the enemy coiled in fear before launching one last massive bolt of lightning, nearly burning all of the majin's skin except, for the arm, with a quick, powerful slice, the enemy was cleaved in two and vulnerable, Dralloc and the Majin combined their remaining energy to form a massive blast and destroy the enemy, she desperately tried to deflect the blast but was too weak from the battle, overwhelmed with ki, the enemy was destroyed, the mission was a success and time was restored.

The majin had decided to keep practicing her new technique, should she ever need it again, in doing so, she absorbed a portion of Dralloc's power and grew stronger in the process.
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>>483512345
The master of competitive sex.

She has been banned from directly going into the time nest unsupervised(by trunks) after Fu showed up, she has been paying fellow patrollers to take pictures of the boss for her. She calls Bardock a rival.
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>>483520437
>I don't want more Gokus and Bejitas, it's fucking boring.
The quality of a Dragon Ball game is directly proportional to how many Gokus and Bejitas it has. That's why Ragin Blast failed as a sequel.
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>>483525542
Is she attempting to repopulate her race too?
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I have a dream
a dream of a 5v5 match between nothing but Gokuus, with no two Gokuus repeated
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kid goku vs gt goku
Early goku vs super goku (base)
Mid goku (ssj) vs Goku (god)
goku ssj2 vs Goku (ssj4)
goku ssj3 vs Goku (blue)
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You already have Early, Mid, End, Super and Black if you count him, and you are probably getting Kid, GT and Daima even if not on release. If Ultra Instinct is a separate slot you would be one Goku short, better hope the game is succesful enough to get hundred of DLC characters and eventually include Xeno Goku or Poder Prohibido Goku
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>>483529042
that's using dbs goku three times and goku end twice.
replace one with goku black and one with goku jr and one with turles
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>>483519504
>>483520093
>>483520437
STFU samefaggot, I love GT and no matter how much you seethe about it, it won't change a thing. Yes, the show, the characters.

Dolltaki >>> Jiren btw. He could turn that gray fodder alien into a doll.
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>>483530780
you must be the Mr. Supers I've heard about on X
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>>483520874
>almost killed the franchise
Then why is it alive 20 years again anyway? You've never seen a dead franchise in your life.

The most recent DLC for a DB game? GT themed >>483453081

So much for killing it.
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The search tags for the upcoming Character Trailer have been mined.
YajirobeGODS and SpopovichCHADS have won.

Also looks like no GT.
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>>483531582
I'm doubling down on my theory that every Z character from 3 no matter how minor is in. Appule, Freeza Soldier, King Cold, Babidi, King Vegeta, Fasha, Nail. If Spopovich is in they are in.
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>>483532256
Nail should only be in if both the U6 namekians are in as well as Slug. Nail's existence can only be justified if he can fill out a team of five namekians without multiple piccolo's
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>>483532256
King Vegeta and King Cold are almost guaranteed to begin with because both of them are in the DBS Broly movie as well as their brief appearances in Z.

Like, if they're going by recency of appearance, being in the second most recent canon movie should be enough to get them over the line, especially since they've also been in previous games.
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Is weird that Broly and Gogeta are front and center in marketing but they stated multiple times that Goku's story mode goes "From Raditz to the Tournament of Power". Maybe Broly is one of the PoV characters and you play the movie as him? Would be lame to have a story so short but also the same exact treatment Broly got in Budokai 3.
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>only 3 transpheres this season
It's gonna be a grim 3 months ,this season is gonna make the Ginyu one seem lively by comparison.
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>>483533073
given how story mode is set up I wouldn't be surprised in the broly movie battles are just sort of off to the side and its when you beat the last tournament of power battle that the end credits for story mode roll
might also be that the alt scenario for the ToP is that instead of reviving frieza, they wish for shenron to bring them someone strong and broly turns up
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>>483512676
Wack
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>>483519504
Why do people even want fucking Super of all things?
Super was terrible. It was so fucking terrible, so stale and poorly executed that it literally killed the franchise for nearly a decade.

Like I really, really want to know what the fucking obsession from western audiences is with god damn Super.
The Japanese fans literally make fun of us because so many western fans seem to like the dumpster fire that is Super.

During that last hour long stream the Japs were fucking mocking us in the stream chat over it.
And they're right to do it too, Super fucking sucks ass.
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Why do people even want fucking Ningen of all things?
Ningen are terrible. Ningen are so fucking terrible, so stale and poorly executed that they literally killed the material plane for nearly a decalennium.

Like I really, really want to know what the fucking obsession from Kaijin audiences is with god damn Ningen.
The Majin fans literally make fun of us because so many Kaijin fans seem to like the dumpster fire that is Ningen.

During that last year long stream the Majin were fucking mocking us in the stream chat over it.
And they're right to do it too, Ningen fucking sucks ass.
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>>483531582
>Ultra Instinct, Goku Black, Yajirobe, Spopovich
What is the theme here?
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>>483538409
one sided battles maybe. like the thing being demonstrated is how you can customize weaker characters to stand up to stronger ones
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>>483531582
God I hope this is real.
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>>483539108
It was tweeted by the same guy who mined the tags for the Fused Warriors trailer which were an accurate indicator that it was going to be about fused characters before they had announced it was called Fused Warriors.

So I'd say it's fairly reliable.
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>>483530908
The franchise was literally dead until America made a movie so bad that Toriyama came out of requirement to damage control the brand.
>b-but vidya and merch
Dead.
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>>483539265
>requirement
*retirement
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>>483515415
Literally 90% of the community is children and ESLs, yes.
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>>483531582
Why do we need Spopovich? He showed up to beat up a fodder woman (who snapped his frail neck earlier) then get blown up by a green nutsack.

Even Puar was in more fights than Spopobitch.
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>>483539779
Because some people want to masturbate to videl suffering
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>>483539779
Random fodder characters are the backbone of this game series.
Without our obscure minion characters like Spopovich, Frieza Soldier, Saibaman, Appule, Cui, etc it would not be a sequel to Budokai Tenkaichi.

Also yes we should get Puar, you do seem to understand.
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>>483539967
>Random fodder characters are the backbone of this game series.
Even outside of that Bandai seems to like Spopovich for some reason. He's also playable in a japan only arcade game which name I can't remember (paired up with Babidi as a single character) and in Breakers
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>>483540501
Zenkai Battle Royale.
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Was it really necessary to have Bulma next to him in his intro
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>>483542346
How does he play? Any good? Fun? I was going to pick the game back up but I thought back to me actually playing it and the game's not for me at all.
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Spopovich was the final boss of the fanfic I wrote when Tenkaichi 3 came out. He absorbed the corrupted dragon balls after they separate from future Goku and turns into black Omega Shenron. Present Goku and Freeza fuse to defeat him.
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>>483456497
Vegeta not having the stamina to sustain Ultra Ego during the final moments against Gas but he can whip it out defensively against Black Frieza is incredibly stupid to me. There's a reason why Vegeta put up his greatest fight against Kid Buu in SSJ2 when he was dead. Once he was alive he was quickly beaten out of sustaining the transformation and could only perform at base for the rest of the fight. THAT makes logical sense. Vegeta was just too worn down to force SSJ. This fight makes it seem like Vegeta had ample stores of ki and was simply choosing not to use it which is bizarre. I mean I like Ultra Ego in theory and the idea that Vegeta just wouldn't be able to guard effectively against someone who legitimately wished to be the strongest in the fucking universe so him going "fuck it" and tanking hits is kind of cool. Instead...Vegeta was chasing damage as opposed to continuing to bob and weave and fight with a sense of strategy. Going "ooga booga I can tank anything!" is fucking stupid. Also Frieza has no reason to not one-tap either Saiyan except that he knows Beerus and Whis might do something to him because of it.
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>>483542346
Bejita humiliation ritual
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>>483542442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B1paxUQE_c
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>>483543281
I meant personal opinion, I saw the gameplay.
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>>483546271
The game is down, I don't think anyone can play it at the moment.
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>>483542743
>Vegeta not having the stamina to sustain Ultra Ego during the final moments against Gas but he can whip it out defensively against Black Frieza is incredibly stupid to m
Maybe you should try actually reading the thing, you would have noticed Vegeta was healed after elder Gas was blast away.
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>>483546867
Oh, it's suppose to be S6 today though, right? Usually the server would've been up a few hours ago.
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>Vegeta-early needs SS to get Big Bang Attack as ultimate
>Super Vegeta has it as normal blast and Final Flash is his ultimate

>then Vegeta-end has Big Bang Attack as ultimate in base
>and just SS gives him Final Flash as normal blast

>now Vegeta-Super has Final Flash as ultimate in base
I always loved this, really makes you see the progression of Vegeta's power
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>>483475162
The instant Trunks lost his cool outfit he lost all fucking relevancy. I hated him so much. Dresses like a fucking IDIOT in every appearance past Z. Doesn't look cool in Xenoverse. Looks like a fool in Heroes. Dumb as shit in GT pulling up to a fight in white shorts. What the fuck are you even thinking Trunks.
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>>483548984
GT Trunks outfit looks cool. In fact, it's the only cool thing about GT Trunks.
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>>483547256
this, Goku and Vegeta were at full power which is what makes their insta job to Black Freiza so humiliating, Ultra Ego and True Ultra Instinct Signs jobbed just like that. The fact that Goku is using Mastered against Beast instead of TSs in my mind makes me think Toriyama got on his case and nyx'd it and Vegeta not using ego means he either didn't master it to the point he can use it in a sparring match without gimping himself or Toyotaro wants to imply he did master it but is saving that reveal for another enemy who knows what the plans for the form are now that Toriyama is dead and the manga is on hiatus while Shuieha and CCT fight it out in court over the rights, that is, assuming they are fighting over the manga as well since CCT already got the anime, the games and the other marketing material, I honestly don't see how Shuieha retains the manga's rights after losing everything unless they worked out a deal with CCT for mercy
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>>483549641
>Goku is using Mastered against Beast instead of TSs
Goku said the advantage of shin ultra instinct omen was that his emotions running wild still translated into more power. If he used that against Gohan when its just a friendly sparring match it wouldn't be as powerful.
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>>483548497
I just noticed they named SSG Vegeta's move "Gamma Fist" to reference the Gamma Burst Flash he uses in the next form. Funny considering SSG Vegeta's Prominence Flash is already a Gamma Burst Flash reference
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>>483549641
That version is for when he's not relaxed enough to use silver hair at max capacity, the one he used with Gohan was Goku's peak, confirmed by Beerus and Whis.
And the website called it "True Ultra Instinct", not "True Ultra Instinct Sign" >>483550536
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I like Pan because her existence entertains the notion of more powerful halfling offspring provided she had a kid with Trunks or Uub or whatever. Her being with a human? Lame. Her being obnoxious? Lame. If you're not into her designt then she really brings zero to the table. Unless you just like the relationship she has with Goku.
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The Goku and Vegeta Transpheres have unreleased transformations.
SS4?
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Pretty sure the next trailer isn't JUST going to be UI Goku, Goku Black, Yajirobe, and Spopovich. Trailers usually show off at LEAST 11 characters, and at MOST 24. Who else do you think is going to shown off with them? Reminder that we should be getting more reveals at Anime Expo, which isn't that far off from now.
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>>483555471
if we're getting a bunch of weak tofts then Jaco is probably going to be there
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>>483555645
Them being weak would be subjective. Spopovich is pretty damn strong, especially since he's from the Buu arc, and Yajirobe was one of the strongest characters from OG, he just tends to be lazy. But yeah, Jaco would be neat.
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>>483556007
I'm kinda hoping the first two scenarios are "Yajirobe trying to spar against UI Goku" and "Spopovich trying not to be vaporized by Goku Black for the crime of being a ningen." so Jaco would probably be fighting Golden Frieza or Beerus
but I suppose the opposite matchups might be what's happening instead with UI Goku vs Goku Black seething about the technique of the gods
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>They don't believe in CHADjirobe
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>>483556685
Pretty sure the only people who don't think Yajirobe will be in are either...
>People who actively avoid leaks
>People who keep thinking OG will be DLC
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>>483548497
SSJ2 End Vegeta had it as an Ultimate when SSJ1 had it as a Super. It's just copy/paste nothing more.
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>>483539967
>Random fodder characters are the backbone of this game serie
BT3's scraping the bottom of the barrel for characters has ruined roaster speculation.
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>>483556982
Calling Yajirobe "OG Dragon Ball" is somewhat disengeneous. Sure, he debuted there but so did Chiaotzu and you don't any arguments for him being a "Z" character. The reason Yajirobe was even added in BT2 was because they wanted more character for the Saiyan Saga and he was literally the only one left.

>>483559686
It' pretty telling that BT3 is literally the only game (DB Heroes be dammed) that some of these guys have been playable in.
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I really want to know what will be UI Goku's moveset, specially if there's no Sign as a separate character
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>>483561687
sliding kamehameha (projectile counterstance)
autonomous fist (melee counterstance)
godly wild sense
rising heat
silver dragon flash
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Hmmmm ape baby is probably worse than original ape vegeta. He can be attacked anywhere and his ki blasts don't go as far. Only advantage he has are the servants, but they are limited
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I haven't been keeping up with all the demo footage that's been spilling out recently for sparking zero. Anyone have footage for Base Black's ultimate yet?
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Black wasn't in the demo, but we do know his supers. I'm guessing his ultimate will be Black Kamehameha.
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if i have to hear the sound of a z counter ONE MORE TIME i'm gonna fucking FREAK
spics need to learn how to balance their FUCKING AI i swear to CHRIST
gets rid of all the fun when even fucking guldo's pulling a z counter out his ass, at least don't pretend your shit's balanced enough you can get away with making every god damn mission ONE CHARACTER ONLY
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Steam summer sale soon. I wonder if they'll put any DB games on sale.

I'm hoping for Kakarot to go on sale mostly because I'm tired of repacks being annoying to update so I want the actual game and then just creamapi the DLC.
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>>483563371
He seems to lose the Revenge Death Ball and most he has are fiery mouth blasts
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>>483565051
>Black bind
Wonder what that one is if it hasn't been shown already. Only thing I can think of it being is a spin on Goku's god bind in Broly.
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>>483565694
i'm pretty sure there's a bamco sale going on right now, DB games obviously included
>because I'm tired of repacks being annoying to update
fitgirl's is fully updated iirc
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>>483565765
it's a manga-only thing he did
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>>483565765
Sorta like that, it's an attack he did in the manga. Though Goku's God Bind is a blast 1 move, and Black's Black Bind is a super attack.
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>>483565915
Yeah there is a sale but it doesn't include the games I've been eyeing except for a few Tales games.
Dragon Ball isn't that kind to you when you're mostly a single player gamer.
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>>483566363
the digimon cyber sluts collection is like 6 bucks, if i wasn't completely broke i'd would've got it
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We’re gonna run out of slots for Botamo and Magetta at this rate.
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>>483566515
What's your Steam name?
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>>483569916
There are almost 60 slots empty anon
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>>483548497
meanwhile goku = just variations of kamehamehas
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>>483542346
You see taking Bejita's body gave baby fine taste in women...
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>>483512345
My cac mentor is Radditz, that's why he was trained as a joke by the TP.
He can't because Super Sayain, but he can use PU (only it's becasue the Yajirobe wig looks retarded with any other transformatons)
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>>483475162
Z Future Trunks would be ashamed of every other version of him.
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>>483560173
Chiaotzu fought in a Z movie, Yajirobe didn’t fight in a Z movie. Chiaotzu fought in the Super manga, Yajirobe never fought in Super.

Yajirobe is a lover, not a fight. Therefore, he’s OG representation.
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>>483579112
Chaozu also has more fights in Z due to filler. Seeing Yajirobe in a fight at all is pretty rare, not that he shouldn’t be playable of course.
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Did Goku ever actually talk to Chaozu in any way in canon?
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>>483581192
He said his name a few times but never talked to him.
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I wish Yajirobe fought more, he’s a fun character.
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>>483468669
Whatever happened to the U6 Tuffle siblings? Are they still alive?
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>>483478810
>>483478909
Mommies with exposed tummies are wonderful and we need more of them.
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>>483578337
He's too much of a chump to have any real pride in himself to begin with, he'd see any other versions and recognize them as being fellow losers.
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>>483483314
GT didn’t really do anything with Vegeta either…
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...Did you people really spend nearly three hours arguing if Vegeta Jr.'s mom could transform or not only for some of you to arrive at the conclusion that she's a slutty robofucker?
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We're going to beat you to death
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>>483585080
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>>483542346
Yes. Why wouldn't you have Bulma next to him?
What a stupid question.
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>>483556007
>Them being weak would be subjective.
Yamcha_vs_Omega.gif
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>>483484573
I’m sure Kid Buu will still be hell to fight against but if they are sticking to old BT logic then the new top dog is gonna probably MUI Goku. Or Whis if they wanna be extremely accurate.
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>>483556007
>Spopovich is pretty damn strong
No he isn’t, he had his neck broken by Videl whose only feats at that point was fighting regular human-level criminals. Yajirobe pre-Kami training would one-shot Spopovich.
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>>483490474
Can we have this actually happen please? I want SZ to visit every possible corner of the franchise for characters. But before Jiya we need Jaco.
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>>483581192
I think he greeted him once at the start of the 23rd tournament
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>>483539779
Playable Puar would be kino. Having playable Puar alongside Spopvich would be even more kino.
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>>483562437
Does Godly Display have a chance or do you think that would a waste of a move slot?
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>>483588258
if you mean the giant white ki ball, no
if you mean the fighterZ special move, it'll probably be the ender for one of his melee comboes
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>>483571539
Yeah, and then subtract that by the amount of forms they havent shown yet and obvious characters like SS teen Gohan or ginyu
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>>483586817
Bring in all the Galactic Patrol protagonists. Jaco, Jiya, even Sachie.
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>>483589806
Them you still have 25-30 open slots
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>>483589806
You would still have over 20 characters, retard
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>>483589810
bring in my nigga Sealas
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>>483589810
>even Sachie
whomst?
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>>483591332
Fuckable little slut literally born Galactic Patrol-branded
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>>483591415
Go on...
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>>483591332
High school ninja who coincidentally has a birthmark that looks like the old Galactic Patrol symbol.
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>>483592651
She cute
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>>483592763
That's her prototype design, her final design went with something even more bubbly and girly
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I wanted to like the Sand Land game since I loved the manga and anime, but it feels like such a fucking slog.
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>>483593206
To be fair, if Toriyama drew that design, she'd just be a human Chronoa.
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>>483593206
Ohhh, so that's why you call her slutty
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>>483542346
Dimps was not gonna underutilize a new model.
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>>483593206
uoooh dsl uoooh
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>>483593206
Man that's not a very Toriyama design
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I really hope todays trailer includes the grid and that it adds every character revealed on the last few weeks even if not on the trailer proper
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>>483590809
I honestly keep forgetting about Sealas. But yes bring him in too and any other Heroes OCs they can afford to bring in.
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There really just gave up on the "story" in Breakers, huh? At this point, they might as well remove the episode tab altogether.
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Can Majin Ozotto come too?
He's not gonna vore anyone this time
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Two of the MM5 SECs have been found.

Gogeta climax to SSJ4
Vegeta Blue Evolution

Chances the last one is another UI Goku?
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>>483595332
If you check the bottom of the image you'll see that actual artist name
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>>483596316
80%, depending on where the story is going. Though, that Gogeta card is pretty damn neat. Is this the first time DBZ Gogeta has transformed into SS4?
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>>483596316
Is that the first time we’ve seen SSJ2 Gogeta?
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>>483596858
Oh, that's a surprise, didn't know Toriyama collaborated with other mangaka for series like that
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>>483597263
Nah, he was in OG Heroes. Big promotion for the form too.
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>>483597263
Nope, he's been in Heroes for a long time
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>Kill someone in cave as lvl 1 baby
>Wait right outside cave
>Someone comes to save them
>Kill them
>Wait a little longer
>Third guy comes to try and save them
>Kill them to
Man some players are mind broken from a lack of heart beat
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>>483597556
>>483597604
Hivemind. Also thanks anons I only remembered this old animation because of SSJ3 Gogeta. never even occurred to me he was in 2 kek.
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Getting all the new survivor skins is gettint more expensive each season.
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>>483598128
Vegetto also got SS2 as well.
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>>483598256
#18 wears her fivehead better than Launch.
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Am I alone in thinking the face models for this game are not good
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>>483470241
>>There’s no Daima shit in sparking zero
>• Season Pass - 3 Packs including DRAGON BALL SUPER: SUPER HERO and DRAGON BALL DAIMA content that contains more than 20 playable characters
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1790600/DRAGON_BALL_Sparking_ZERO/
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>>483599384
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>>483599384
The faces are REALLY hard to get right in 3D.
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>>483476574
NTA, but you're assuming that everyone who likes Dragon Ball GT is as retarded as that Anon, and that is equally retarded.
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>>483599384
Depends on the model, but the one you posted looks good so I would say you are kinda alone
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>>483480217
Vegeta Jr's dad is a descendant of Vegeta.
Vegeta who jobs pretty much every day of his life.
Do I need to say more?
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>>483599384
In this instance it's literally just the size of his nose and the weird angle the face is in.

That's honestly a problem with a lot of the models in this game. The noses are too big and it makes the faces look kind of awkward at certain angles.
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>>483520093
This, GT is cool concepts but horrible execution the Anime.
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>>483481032
>>483481448
>I don't think they would use "Red Ribbon army" JUST for Gero
But they could use it for a battle involving A16, A17 (Z), A18 (Z), A19 and A20.
Even if 16, 17 and 18 don't give a shit about the RRA, they're still creations of Gero meant to ultimately get revenge by killing Goku for the sake of the RRA.
Actually, do we know if 5v5 battles are coming back for SZ?
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>>483599384
These are edited Raging Blast models.
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>>483603112
>even if they don't give a fuck, they are still creations
I don't think that's a good reason. Nobody looks at Trunks' future and says "oh yeah they are fighting against the evil Red Ribbon", it's just part of the twins' backstory.

>do we know if 5v5 battles are coming back
Yeah? Have you been under a rock?
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>>483603590
The grit teeth expression on their mouths are exactly the same shape; look at how the right side of the mouths on both models are raised higher than the left side, and the mouths have the same sharp edges.
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>>483602495
The Shadow Dragons weren't cool even in concepts, they were retarded and made no sense with what the DBs even are.
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>>483604292
The cool concept for them is their being a down side for using the dragon balls to much. Not so much the dragons themselves.
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>SDBH
MM5 Secs have been shown;
https://dbh日和.xyz/mm5-sec-list/

SSBE Vegeta being in the running for potentially one of the worst looking SECs in the game, SDBH usually clears in the art department but wtf, and then we have Gogeta climax into SS4, cool. Also the dark spirits of gloom and doom speak to me that MM6 will end with SSB Gogeta.... I wanna die a thousand deaths Thoughts on the cards themselves soon.
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>>483604570
>The cool concept for them is their being a down side for using the dragon balls to much.
Which isn't a cool concept at all. It's retarded and goes against literally the entire franchise and the entire history of the DBs themselves.
The DBs were created to be used, to be a reward to a scavenger hunt. The downside is having to find them, that's it, anything else is retarded. They aren't some forbidden artefact, they were DIRECTLY made to be used and ALREADY have an in-built cooldown.
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>>483601973
You got that wrong, Vegeta Jr's MOM is descended from Vegeta, being a Bulma
Vegeta Jr's dad is not in the picture
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>>483495096
>Why the fuck do people bitch about super stuff vs GT stuff getting in Sparking Zero
SZ and the discussion about whether Veggie Jr's mommy can go SS1 are excuses, GT VS Super shitflinging is par for the course here. It happens at least once every few threads.

Personally, I want every character from BT3 to come back on top of the new incorporations from Super, but the amount of characters we were given implies that there were cuts.
As far as we know SZ has a total of 164 characters, whereas BT3 had about 161. This is counting forms as individual characters in both cases, SZ's and BT3's, mind you.
Characters have already been replaced with the new Super additions. It sucks, but it is what it is.
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>>483604940
His dad is the biggest helicopter parent in Dragon Ball
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>>483604940
Again the assumption that there even is a dad, and not a turkey baster filled with baby batter attached to a pumping machine
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>>483513315
Dope. I didn't even know this was a thing.
Found a link and a document explaining their workflow and creative process.
https://x.com/seedofmight/status/1805783239845396858
https://andrewvanner.github.io/som/SoM_CC_Process_Day.pdf
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>>483602495
>cool concepts
Literally only the shadow dragons. The rest are terrible concepts too
>what if Goku was a kid but without any of the charm because he's actually the same overpowered galaxy buster as usual, just smaller?
>what if the other protagonists were Trunks, but no longer an enternaining kid and still not the cool future one, and a Pan who is no longer a cute girl but just a dumb bitch without the excuse of hormones because she's only 9yo?
>what if the first actual villain took an entire arc to appear and was evil Vegeta for third time, but turned into a completely different character?
>what if the appendix the saiyans lost upon becoming thousands times stronger than they ever were was somehow able to make them actually stronger?
>what if Goku's successor had literally nothing special or remarkable until he ges a power up that erases the existence of a better, previous character, and all he got for that was a single new move he uses like twice?
>what if Gero and GT!Gero were freely roaming hell and had somehow the means to literally build a new android who is exactly like Android 17, and both 17s were half as strong as a SS4 (their words, not mine)?
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>>483604608
SSBEfags have been losing a lot lately, kek
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>>483606027
The shadow dragons are shit too
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>>483604940
>You got that wrong
Or did I?
Why are you so eager to rule out potential incest?
Give me a (trustworthy) source to believe that isn't plausible.
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>>483604806
They where made for petty mortal wishes. Ain't no way the old geezer thought they where going be to used for reviving a whole planet and stuff.
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>>483606323
>Why are you so eager to rule out potential incest?
Based
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>>483606323
Vegeta Jr. doesn't look any more inbred than a normal Vegeta
Simple as
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>>483606350
Literally the first wishes they were used for according to the info dump was making someone king of the world, bring back the dead and give infinite of anything you want.
Kami and the Nameks literally there during the Namek Saga and were like 'sure, the DBs can do that whenever, hell, we can use them even faster than you!'
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>>483606323
okay von Hapsburg
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>>483606721
>He can't spell Habsbourg properly
Mutt
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So what's up with the new trailer's title, "Character Trailer"? All of the others had themed titles revealed before the trailers' release.
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>>483606712
And that all sounds like dragon ball abuse and having their be a down side for doing it for so long sounds like a good plot point.

Look, clearly we ain't gonna agree on this. So let's just agree that GT sucks for our own separate reasons.
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>>483603806
>I don't think that's a good reason.
You don't need a reason to justify Mission 100-tier battle.

>Nobody looks at Trunks' future and says "oh yeah they are fighting against the evil Red Ribbon", it's just part of the twins' backstory.
There's no point in using the canon as a means to justify or explain a scenario presented by a fighting game.

>Yeah? Have you been under a rock?
I'm not following every piece of news about the game religiously.
I ask questions here or there in the middle of conversations mostly out of curiosity, but I'll see most of what there is to see by playing the game.
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>>483607379
The Fusions trailer also had the vague "Character Trailer" name, which threw people off since they were expecting a New-Generation Saiyans trailer. Since this month's V-Jump didn't reveal anyone new, we're going into this trailer (mostly) blind.
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>>483607243
My respect for the nobility is lower than my respect for Uub.
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>>483607243
nice jaw Mr. Happisbourough
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>>483606027
It's more like
>OG dragon ball was cool, what if we tried to bring back the experience of adventure?
>Hey the Sayains sucked and did bad things, surely ghost will come back to haunt them right? Plus body parasites you can't really fight in a normal fashion
>What if the crazy coot's made a better robot working together?
>What if abusing the dragon balls had a downside?

And the stuff you stated, is the reason why they fucked it up.
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>>483539265
You forgot Kai and maybe TFS keeping the franchise in limbo before Evolution.
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>>483604608
MM5-SEC2 Vegeta
>Type
EL
>Super Attack
Final Explosion, 9 HE (new retrain)
>Ability
In the PLBP, the dmg dealt by allies with lower than normal DMG multiplication will be quadrupled for the round. When he wins an attack CI, the enemy co-op group will take 2x DMG, increased the less damage the CI deals.
>CAA/TAA
Ultimate Energy that deals critical STA DMG and 2x DMG on use.
>Unit (Goku/Frieza (Revived) as unit members, 5 HE)
Set enemy PWR LV to 2k and disable their revive chance (this round only)
>Thoughts
So wow this card blows cheeks. The big thing is that the unit is the free-est unit to ever include because MM3-052 Frieza (Revived) and Goku, the PLBP could be neat but it's something you're relying on the opponent to proc besides some very niche moments like BM11-SEC3 Goku after 3-ish attacks? And MM5-022 Vegeta is right there as a good answer to that alongside invalidating some stun cards. The negative DMG reduction on CI win is neat if it didn't require a Ci win and this card having a fucking nuke as a super attack and 9.9k PWR. This is ignoring the meta where this is just ass even if on a EL, maybe there's something fun here with UGM8 Shallot and the card's unit because you're using MM3-052 Frieza (Revived) and that card is secretly a black frieza card with how strong it is.

>>483606257
Funny part is that the UR SSBE in the set is actually pretty nice despite what it's trying to do being sus in nowadays meta, it's just the SEC randomly sucks gargantuan amounts of ass.
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>>483607897
>It's abuse to use stuff as they were meant to
No, really not.
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>>483605250
Stop spreading lies!
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>>483608287
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>>483606529
>Vegeta Jr. doesn't look any more inbred than a normal Vegeta
He's like 9 and has a receding hairline
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>>483611358
Yes, a normal amount of inbred for a Vegeta
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>>483607379
>So what's up with the new trailer's title, "Character Trailer"?
They don want to spoil it by calling it the Based Yajirobe trailer
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>Heh, Guess I have to go all out.
>*Fucking dies*
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>>483612838
so this is why we don't have SS4...
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>>483612838
>turns into SS4 Vegeta
>body jobs
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>>483608881
MM5-SEC3 Gogeta
>Type
HR
>Super Attack
Soul Punisher -> Final Shine Kamehameha, 6 HE
>Ability
At the PLBP when an attacker, if your PWR LV is 10k+ you'll deal 4x DMG for the round, if you have less than 10k PWR LV, gain 70% DMG reduction for the round instead. Furthermore if your PWR LV's limited, set all enemy PWR to 1k for the round.
>CAA/TAA
Climax that goes SS3, then SS4 in only 1 instance of 10k PWR LV, upon going SS4 you get 4x PWR/PWR LV.
>Thoughts
Now this is a proper anti-meta card, either hits really hard or is a strong defensive pivot, when you have BM6-062 Robel to make him work (welcome to an instance where MM5 Laggs is worse than Robel). The PWR reduction when your PWR LV is set is really strong, either punishing enemy HGD9 Future Trunks or benefiting off of your own MM1 Ozottos, and unlike Vegeta who sucks donkey dong even in the moments it would proc, this is going to save lives when the opponent launches the PWR LV Limiter app. And then besides that, he can still be decently fast, 4x PWR/PWR LV is fine for R2, and hit hard, 4x PWR/DMG is pretty good to work with especially if it works on the climax change giving you a lot of free damage. Does simple things but can do them well and is favorable with and against a few tactics.

>Final Shine Kamehameha
https://x.com/DBHBrasil/status/1806058434313515087
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>>483614890
that is one sick ass move that'll never be seen again
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>>483614890
>https://x.com/DBHBrasil/status/1806058434313515087
Even here they are using Spopovich. This is truly the year of Spopovich.
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>>483614890
Holy Shit, I never thought they'd do a Final Shine Kamehameha...
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>Big Bang Kamehameha
>Final Kamehameha
>Galick Kamehameha
>Final Shine Kamehameha
Does Goku bring nothign else to the table?
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>>483607897
>sounds like a good plot point.
It doesn't tho
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>an hour remaining
Well then, hopes, expectations... fears?
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>>483616501
Stardust Breaker is kinda Spirit Bomb-ish I guess?
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When will they reveal Shallot?
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>>483616501
The Kamehameha is Goku's only major beam attack, everything is either martial arts or something abstract like Spirit Bomb and Dragon Fist.
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>>483614890
>SS2 Gogeta updated model looks the same as his updated SS model
Ruined
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>>483616560
>Hopes
Beat and Note
>Expectations
Z Characters
>Fears
BT3 Z Characters being cut
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>>483616560
>fears?
Dr. Gero, Base Trunks, Saiyaman. Characters we already know about but didn't get a trailer eveal.
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>>483616560
They don't add Cocotte.
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>>483616501
There's no Garlick Kamehameha move, just using Kamehameha and Garlick Gun at same time, but there's another one, the Atomic Kamehameha.
I wonder how long until they make a Vegito with "Gamma Burst Kamehameha"
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>>483617361
>Garlick Kamehameha
He's referencing Dragon Ball Fusions with Gogeta EX, now of course since this is DBF, it's a reskinned BBK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrEJOiJjyEw
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>>483617308
this is a fear by the way. hopes is that they add her. Cocotte.....
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>>483617361
I think Gogeta had Galick Kamehameha in Fusions and Ultimate Battle 22.
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>>483616560
i hope for shallot i expect shallot i fear no shallot
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>>483617613
Cocotte is unlikely. They seem to want to give each major universe at least 3 playable characters. Those slots are going to Top, Dyspo, and Jiren.
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>>483617573
>>483617664
I stand corrected.
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>>483617221
>>483617258
>>483617308
>>483618143
Sweet, for me it's really just.
>Hopes
Z movie villains
>Expectation
Appule
>Fears
Appule
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>>483618850
>They confirm there are What-If characters
>First reveal is Appule Black
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>>483618850
I might actually cry if they actually just show off the minions instead of characters we want.
I will love and play a minion but I want to know who's in the cool kids club first
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>>483616560
>Hope
OG DB characters like Chi-Chi or Tambourine
>Expectation
More Super
>Fear
i dunno
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>>483616560
>Hopes
Super Saiyan Raditz and cool what-if stories featuring him
>Fears
Lame roster choices
>Expectations
none
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>>483618850
Appule is cool-
I want him, Frieza Soldier and Babidi the most-
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>>483619113
Would be funny, but they'd have to pull some dodgy strings to make that happen, maybe having Zamasu jobbing to appule at some point instead of Goku.
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>Wake up
>Open Youtube to catch the new trailer live first thing in the morning
>Pic is the first message I see in stream chat
lmao
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>>483616560
what if Fusions

Gokhan!
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>>483619591
>Fusion Reborn
>canon
What an idiot
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>>483619641
I think it would be much funnier if the fused version of Goku and Gohan was just called "Gohan" or "Goku".
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If we got silly what if costumes I'd love to see a baby version of other characters besides baby vegeta
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>>483619867
Hango
Kugo
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>>483607897
It didn’t even make sense for that reason in gt like how the fuck was wishing for comfortable panties a selfish wish when it was literally the opposite. It’s like they just looked at a list with zero context when they wrote gt.
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You know, I was playing BT3 earlier and I realized that the Daima DLC is gonna be kinda cool because it'll allow us to get a playable Kid Bejita for basically the first time ever.

Though, getting yet another Kid Goku is going to start feeling really, really redundant.
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>>483620551
we're gonna end up with almost as many kid gokus as we have regular gokus by the end of S0's dlc cycle, which honestly i think is hilarious
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>>483620551
>OG Kid Goku
>GT Kid Goku
>Goku Jr
>Daima Goku
>Goten (kind of)
We still don't have that many
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>>483619591
>kid Goku
>GT Goku
>Daima Goku
>Goten
Quick, we need another mini-Goku for the full team!
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Also I found out that Daima was originally going to be a project produced by Toei without any involvement from Toriyama, but then he jumped in and hijacked the project, rewrote the whole thing and made it into what we now know as Daima.

Which makes me wonder, did he see that Toei was gonna turn Goku into a kid again and think "I'm not letting another GT happen, let me write this one".
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>>483621176
i'm more curious what the fuck toei were planning making goku a kid again after what happened with GT
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>>483621294
Since this year is the 40th anniversary and DB started Goku's story as a kid, I can see why they did it
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>>483621294
Well, it's supposed to be a 40th Anniversary celebration thing so they probably wanted to go back to the series' roots, which is OG Dragonball where Goku is a kid.

Honestly, if Toriyama felt the need to get so heavily involved at his age, I get the feeling that whatever version Toei had cooked up before he completely re-did it was probably not very good.
Like apparently he redid everything, rewrote the script, designed all new characters, worlds and objects, then watched over everyone's shoulder, including the animators, to make sure they were doing it right.
That indicates that he probably thought the original version they showed him wasn't very good.
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>>483620889
Goku Jr, it's easy to forget about him but he exists.
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Ultra Eggo Vegeta should be in this trailer.
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>>483621997
No way Goku Jr will make it when not even regular Gran Turd is confirmed
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3 MINUTES FAGS!
>>
IT BEGINS
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYFfnFDIC2c
Link
>>
SUUPAA VEGITTO
>>
THE VICH IS IN
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ANILASA IS IN AND HIS FIGHTING STYLE LOOKS SO FUCKING BASED!
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RYONACHADS WON
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>Ultra GODstinct Sign
Finally
>>
TWO ULTRA INSTINCTS? IT'S MORE LIKELY THAN YOU THINK
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>Vegetto in ToP

lol
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>We got all 3 Kamikaze Fireballs
Based.
>>
>Super Vegetto
>Rozie
>Ribrianne
>Anilaza
>Yajirobe
>Spopovich
>Dabura
>SSR Goku Black
>Omen Goku
>>
Looks like Ultra Instinct is separate from DBS Goku
>>
now only 2 giants
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>>483624064
as soon as we got kakunsa first i expected it but i was still a little surprised seeing rozie
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>>483624146
It would've been 3, but I guess Giant Ribrianne is just her ultimate attack.
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>>483624079
>>483624119
>Goku gets BOTH Sign AND UI as separate forms
>Bejita gets NOTHING. Not even his fanfic anime version of SSBE.
lmao, get fucked Bejita.
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>>483624119
>>
so it's Sword vs Fists Trailer

https://youtu.be/NDGeWO_am1c
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Official title is "Swords vs Fists"
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>>483624336
i think he's moreso basing that on the placement on >>483624038, he's not next to base superku but instead off near supergeta and earlyku
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>>483624434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYFfnFDIC2c
Japanese
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>confirmed (113/164)
Goku [Boy]
Goku [Early Z]
Goku [Mid Z] (base, SS)
Goku [Late Z] (base, SS, SS2, SS3)
Goku [Super] (base, SS, SSG, SSB, UIS, UI)
Vegeta [Z Scouter] (base, Great Ape)
Vegeta [First half Z] (base, SS, Super)
Vegeta [Late Z] (base, SS, SS2)
Majin Vegeta
Vegeta [Super] (base, SS, SSG, SSB)
Gohan [Child]
Gohan [Boy] (SS2)
Gohan [Teen] (base, SS, SS2, Great Saiyaman)
Ultimate Gohan
Gohan [Future] (base, SS)
Piccolo
Kurilin
Yamcha
Tenshinhan
Chaozu
Trunks [Sword] (base, SS)
Trunks [Fighter] (base, SS, Super)
Trunks [Future] (base, SSR)
Trunks [Boy] (base, SS)
Goten (base, SS)
Vegetto (base, SS, SSB)
Gogeta [Super] (base, SS, SSB)
Gotenks (base, SS, SS3)
Videl
Mutenroshi (base, Max Power)
Yajirobe
Zarbon
Freeza [Z] (Final form, Max power)
Freeza [Super] (Final form, Golden)
Cell [Perfect]
Majin Boo
Mr. Satan
Bardock
Raditz
Nappa
Saibaman
Butta
Jheese
#17 [Z]
#17 [Super]
#18
Gero
Spopovich
Dabra
Broly (rage, SS, Full power)
Beerus
Whis
Goku Black (base, SSR)
Zamasu
Merged Zamasu (base, Half corrupted)
Hit
Caulifla (base, SS2)
Kale (base, SS, Out of control)
Kefla (base, SS, SS2)
Jiren (base, Full power)
Toppo
Dyspo
Bergamo
Kakunsa
Rosie
Ribrianne
Annilaza

>likely but not confirmed (28 more)
Blue
Gohan [Boy] (base, SS)
Zarbon (Monster)
Recoome
Guldo
Ginyu
Freeza (First form, Second form, Third form)
#16
Cell (Imperfect, Semiperfect, Super perfect)
Super Buu (base, Gotenks, Gohan)
Pure Buu
Jaco
Botamo
Frost (base, assault form, final form)
Magetta
Basil
Lavenda
Toppo (GoD mode)
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>gets stabbed by Vegito
>he still tanked it
Damn, CHADren is so cool.
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I'm actually really happy spopovich is in the game, same with yajirobe. Looks like we'll be getting lots of dorky loser d tier playable characters which I personally love.
Also I don't think I've ever watched the movie Anilaza came from, I see it sometimes but I don't know where it was ever shown.
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>>483624565
i'm confused why you never include cabba in this copypasta but botamo and magetta are 'likely'
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>>483624708
he's not a movie character, he's from the ToP, U3
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That's right, THE STRONGEST and Jiren
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HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA! MY BOY UI SIGN IS IN! FUCK ALL OF YOU RETARDS FROM THIS GENERAL THAT CALLED HIM TRASH, ALT COSTUME, AND NOT DESERVING OF A SPOT IN THE ROSTER!
>Muh SSBE is not in!
SSBE now has even more chances to be in, GoD Toppo vs an actual SSBE for the next trailer
>B-But muh blast 1 cope!
Manga reference, doesn't mean that it is actually the SSBE form
>B-But Final Explosion!
So what? It was from the demo and Jun Futanari already said that you can switch skills. SSBE will be in the game, trust the plan.
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Who is the next giant ????
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>>483624708
ToP, the strongest U3 warrior
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>>483624708
Movie 27
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>>483624708
Anilaza is from the T.O.P. and despite being a LITERAL giant, he's so forgettable i had to tell you this. I'm sad that so much of this roster is Tournament of Power because 80% of them were boring with shit character designs.
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>>483624038
No android 21 no buy.

If they have the majin good version, I'll buy the collectors edition/ultimate version.
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>>483624708
>Also I don't think I've ever watched the movie Anilaza came from
He's not from a movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62LGJ7XzaUY
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>>483624708
Anilaza is from the Tournament of Power. Not a movie character.
Though I get it, he kinda looks like a movie character.
Hatchiyak lookin ass.
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yeah my team:

Goku Early
Goku Mid SS
Goku End SS2
Goku Blue
Goku Sign UI
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>>483624434
>>483624494
Happy I got to see the man in rose because I'm biased, but showing off Super Vegetto and Jiren as if they're a surprise to anybody and still no signs of Z movie villains is pretty grim.
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>no appule
shit game
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>>483624787
Because I totally forgot about him obviously
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I know these are probably made way in advance but not much of a point for a reveal when Mr. Satan gets "oficially revealed" even though we've known about it since the 1st trailer.
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>>483625213
Appule and Frieza soldier are probably being merged.
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>Yajirobe confirmed
>rest of the TOP girls confirmed
>Anilaza
>Sign
>still no GT in sight
DOOMERS BTFO
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>>483625092
>Shitting on Anilaza
Fuck you man, he's based and has a cool design.
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Where's that retard that said Omen wasn't making it in? Go ahead and kill yourself now for your stupidity
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>>483625282
understandable
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>>483624935
>>483625013
>>483625092
Oh god really, that's kinda embarrassing I totally just thought he was in a movie, for some reason I jus thought he was some goon from lord slug or GT.
>>483625185
I actually might have just confused him for Hatchiyak honestly.
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>>483625353
How were doomers btfo? they were right and they get to save money by not buying this shit day 1. i might even pirate it now.
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>>483625092
>80% of them were boring with shit character designs.
I bet you think SS4 is super good and a """true evolution""" of super saiyan.
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>>483625353
GT will be dlc
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So why were people clickbaiting with GT again? Because every DB tuber covering it had GT on their thumbnail/prediction and I KNOW for a fact that some of them definitely saw the trailer tag leak.
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>>483625147
anon, you and i BOTH know she's gonna be dlc at best
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>>483624708
>dorky loser d tier
Yajirobe is strong though. He was only clumsy against Vegeta, for some reason.
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>>483625459
You're replying to an AI post, anon
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>>483625569
Because clickbait is the only type of video these people know how to make.
Obviously.
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>>483625213
We literally just got Yajirobe and Spopovitch confirmed, Appule's chances have never been better.
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>Sword
Super Vegito
Future Trunks
Yajirobe
Dabura
SS Rose Goku Black

>Fists
Jiren
Roasie
Ribrianne
Spopovich
Mark
Anilaza
UI Sign Goku
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I wanna hate Ribrianne but Veronica Taylor's voice makes her sound kinda hot so I dunno how to feel.
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>>483621176
Based raffing man giving us one last bit of soul before he died. I think I'd rather trust the series in Toyotaro's hands than Toei's those corporate humping fuckers seem eager to make the same mistakes they did with GT.
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>>483625796
Tapion bros...
He was supposed to be in...
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>>483625459
GT being in the game is bad, therefore wanting GT makes you a doomer.

>>483625702
Cope.

>>483625541
Don't care. DLC is good, GTfags eventually get what they want, I can pick and choose what to buy, and I get better characters in the base roster.
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>>483625843
It sucks her original form is so cute.
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>Goku (early)
>Goku (mid)
>Goku (end)
>Goku (Super)
>Goku (Ultra)
>Goku (kid)
>Goku (Daima)
>Goku (GT)
>Goku (Black)
>Goku (earring fusion)
>Goku (dance fusion)
>Goku (black fusion)
>Goku (GT fusion)
MORE
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>>483625147
>>483625638
I'm holding out for her myself, maybe even have Lab Coat transform into her
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>>483625648
Yeah I like Yajirobe a lot but he does literally nothing most of the series. He just hangs out with korin and eats senzu beans
If this was real life I would definitely think he's a cool guy but since he's a cartoon I know he's a huge fucking dork loser.
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>>483625843
Bro, she is (was) Ash Ketchum...
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>>483625843
>>483625969
I like both forms but I hate that they don't get equal R34 treatment.
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>483625967
This is an American website, Juan. Learn English before replying to me. No (You).
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>>483625843
Now look deep within yourself and ask, if Ribranne offered you paizuri would you take it just for her voice?
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>>483625843
They gave her a MASSIVE rack.
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>>483625360
>he's based and has a cool design.

Please tell me your joking, this thing does not look cool at all.
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Can't wait for the EoM July trailer with these as headliners
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>>483625185
Funny you mention Hatchiyack, since Universe 2 does have a Tuffle (Zarbuto) and short Hatchiyack-looking fellow (Rabanra). Also a Rilldo lookalike (Zirloin).
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>>483624984
Customizable moves didn't include ultimates in Raging Blast (which just got confirmed as the spiritual successor of the Sparking series in yesterday's interview). Plus he even gets the not!Evolution aura before doing the Final God Explosion.
It's not in, because it's ugly shit, unlike my nigga Sign.
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>>483625843
okay? just get horny for her normal form then
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>>483626040
She's also Cosmos in Dissidia.
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>>483623838
Damn, Anilaza was one of the picks I both wanted and yet doubted
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>>483625537
Yes, Super Saiyan 4 objectively looks better than 80% of the cast of tournament of power which consisted MOSTLY of furrys, robots and kamen rider clones. To think otherwise is just you being a biased faggot, we get it GT isn't great but to say SSJ4 doesn't look cool just tells me you have no concept of style or what is actually cool. Fucking dork.
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>>483626146
Weird comeback since it was coherent easily-understood English. You're making yourself look like the ESL.

>No (You).
I don't care. Slow thread and your tears are delicious. Reply again, bitch.
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>>483626040
And bayonetta?
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>>483626338
>Customizable moves didn't include ultimates in Raging Blast
i mean TECHNICALLY you could customize goku's spirit bomb using items, even if it wasn't standard for everyone else
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>>483624494
Thanks, anon.
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>>483626308
>tuffle (Zarbuto)
He never got confirmed a tuffle. An article said one of the U2 fighters was a tuffle but they never explained which one, and considering tuffle includes even stuff like doctor Lychee, Hatchiyack and Baby, anyone in your pic could be the supposed tuffle.
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>>483616501
No, because Kamehameha is the ultimate beam attack that is naturally extremely flexible and versatile in its usage. Vegeta on the other hand can’t come with anything than the most basic of beams and blasts as attacks because he’s a shit fighter.
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>>483626338
They're playing both sides, that Blast 1 is that weird SSBE from the manga, the anime one will have a slot for himself
>Customizable moves didn't include ultimates in Raging Blast
Means nothing until the game comes out
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>>483626280
Looks like a GT character.

>>483626512
>but to say SSJ4 doesn't look cool just tells me you have no concept of style or what is actually cool
You still shop at Hot Topic, don't you?
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>>483626351
That version of her doesn't have enough art.
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>>483625012
>Who is the next giant ????
Great Ape Kid Goku
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>>483626558
>one single ultimate
The exception that proves the rule.
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>>483626558
This very trailer shows that Goku and Vegeta are Indeed not made equal.

>>483626531
No. Jennifer Hale in B3 and can't remember the original VA's name but fuck her because she had some horrible takes after that whole debacle.
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Where the fuck is Cocotte? They're adding ToP randos... we need more females... don't do this...
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Holy FUARK... I'm So strong, strong enough that I'll be in Sparking Zero, I'll rule the Meta game along with my friends Vegito Blue, and Me Blue.
See ya in Sparking Zero!
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>>483626040
She was also May...and Ash's mom.
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>>483625843
She literally has the biggest rack of the franchise
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I always that SS4 was a cool design, I like how we get the super saiyan oozaru too so I hope we maybe get that too if we are getting monkey forms already.
But taming your super oozaru form and going from wild beast to cool monkey man is pretty cool.
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>>483627414
>going from wild beast to cool monkey man is pretty cool.
It would be if he looked like a monkey man instead of Shadow the Hedgehog.
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What happened to the retards that were saying that UI Sign had no chance to be in because he didn't have a spot on DBS Goku's Transformation Grid? Hmmmm?
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>>483624038
They really need to just go ahead and dump a trailer for the Z villains already and fill some of these awkward gaps.
>There's still space by Nappa and Raditz
Great Apes have a greater than 0% chance still.
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>>483627073
Strong enough to be in Sparking Zero as DLC maybe.
Lmao.
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It seems that they're pleasing both sides, manga fans and anime fans, which means
>"Breaking the limits" Blast 1 skill for SSBE is just the manga exclusive form
>Anime counterpart will have a slot of it's own sharing a trailer with GoD Toppo next month
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>>483625638
I want the good and evil versions. And if I choose the evil version and turn my enemy into chocolate when they have low hp, it better end with her swallowing them with a KO.

For the good version, I hope she uses buu's explosion attack or kid buu's planet burst attack for her ultimate.
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>>483626338
>Customizable moves didn't include ultimates in Raging Blast
This further solidifies DBS and DBZ 17 as two different characters, since the Z one has his old BT3 ult, and the Super one has the barrier explosion.
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>They STILL haven't revealed Base form Melee Trunks even though they literally just did a Swords vs Fists trailer swowing Base DBS Trunks...
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What was up with Yajrabe losing his sowrd mid attack? I think that was his ultimate and will have Korin show up to help him.
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>>483627507
Being edgy is still cool though anon don't be mean
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>>483627845
If we're really having custom moves they should make Hakai for SSB Goku's ultimate.
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>>483628213
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>>483628165
Krillin shows up out of nowhere, catches it and we get the Vegeta kill that never happened.
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>>483627368
And the worst looks, what a waste, I do like annin though
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>>483626228
Blueberry always had big ass tits just like the rest of her
>>483626280
Looks like a Ben 10 alien
>>483626351
>>483626790
Probably because they don't really stay in that form beyond a few first minutes and spend the rest of the tournament transformed and in the manga they don't have that form at all, it's not even implied they're transformations so perhaps Toei just invented their plappable forms while Toriyama had no such idea, also that Ribranne is into baldies while in the anime she thinks Krillin is ugly
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>Show multiple Buu Saga characters
>Still no Buu Variants
>Still no Ultimate Gohan
Fuck you
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Can we at least get Princess Snake or something? Where are the coomer choices?
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>>483628719
>Still no Ultimate Gohan
This. This so much. I want him now.
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>>483628719
Don't worry anon they're saving it for near release when we'll get old buu forms like cell and freiza
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They fixed goku's wide ass nose
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>>483628990
>No coomer choices
Excuse me?
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>>483629364
BRO?!
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>>483628990
they already revealed kakunsa, anon
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>>483629364
He's got his tits out plus he'll spit on it to make you rock hard.
Dabura is the ultimate gooner
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>>483624302
so 64 characters left in the base roster.
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The SSJ4s have to be in because they literally blew all their other big guns already. Who else can be the climatic reveal near release when we already have every Blue, every villain and both Ultra Instincts?
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Every time a new character reveal trailer releases the GTfags whine more and more about no GT.

It's fucking hilarious and it makes me want no GT in the base roster.
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>>483629325
Nah. It looks like all they did was drag it further down to his mouth
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>>483628556
>Looks like a Ben 10 alien
Fuck I can't unsee it now.
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>>483629695
If they do get included it will be JUST the SS4s and maybe Baby and Omega (final forms only) that get included.
The roster is genuinely too packed for a fully featured list of GT inclusions. There straight up just isn't enough space once you account for all the character forms from Z that haven't been officially revealed yet.
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>>483626280
He looks better in the manga.
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>>483629583
More like 57, there's 7 characters who were in the last trailer and the demo who haven't been added to the trailer roster:
>17 (Z)
>Dr. Gero
>SS2 Teen Gohan
>Base Trunks (Melee)
>Semiperfect Cell
>Super Saiyan Gohan (the one on the roster is SS2)
>Great Saiyaman
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>>483628990
Who else is there?
They already revealed
Teen Videl
Caulifla
Kale
Kefla
Ribranne
Rozie
Kakunsa

Chi-Chi,Bulma and Launch are non fighters and what's her name who materializes weapons didn't get to actually fight on screen before Roshi threatened to "correct" her if she didn't give up.

Without diving into video game characters like the heroes avatars, heroes OCs, Xenoverse OCs, FighterZ's main antagonist and the one character he made for Kakarot, there's really not a whole lot of options left for coom characters.

Even Daima may not give you any as the main antagonists have male features better hope that rumor about 2 other companions is not only true but one or both are women if you want more boobs
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>>483629695
You'll get your Frieza Force trailer with the remaing Ginyus, Zarbon, Dodoria (and maybe the grunts) and you'll take it.

>>483630189
Not if you know what happens next panel.
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>>483630189
Better but still retarded looking.
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>>483630189
Super sperm man
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>>483630440
Yeah unfortunately Toyo made Berserker Kale way stronger there.
I'd love Frieza Soldier, Cui and Appule though.
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>>483630189
Manga Aniraza sucks dick much like all manga version Super characters when compared to itheir anime versions.
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>>483628719
Oh look we have the same episodes
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>>483624984
You got BTFO on /v/ and you will get the same treatment here. SSBE is confirmed blast 1 skill.
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>>483630440
Yeah. The pages both before and after it consisted of Kale taking down almost all of the ToP. I still don't know why Toyo even added Anilaza if he was just going to have him get one-shotted.

I also remember the instant mangafag switch up. They went from thinking Toyo was going to treat the contestants better to believing it was good that he took down all the fodder.
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>>483629695
This is a pretty big cope anon.
Just wanted to make sure you knew that.
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>>483630416
Chi-Chi and Launch are fighters. And they can make up shit for Bulma like did in Legends. As for other females outside of them who are currently canon to Super there's Hop, Sorrel, Cocotte, Caway, Android 21, Dercori. These are all females I can think of that had a decent showing of their movesets in battle.
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>>483629112
We already know he’s in the game.
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I love dunking on GTfags as much as the next guy but setting the discourse aside there's still realistically enough room to add several of them in the base game. Movies can skirt by with nothing but Cooler and Broly to represent them.
Let's not kid ourselves into thinking GT won't be in.
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>>483630416
>Chi-Chi,Bulma and Launch are non fighters
>Chi Chi
>Launch
Found the kid who didn't watch OG DB.
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>>483627816
>DLC
>Monkey Paw curls as Gogeta SSJ4 becomes a pay to win character
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>>483630709
The top ones sure, but everything else, not at all, i mean, goku is not as much as a manchild as the anime one
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>>483631307
I mean, you'd have to be clinically insane to think that fucking Ultimate Gohan was going to NOT be in the game.
Like you would need to be straight delusional, he's one of the main characters in the Buu Saga, I don't need official confirmation to know that he's in the game.
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>>483623621
>Anilaza
Dope.
>UI Sign officially confirmed
Noice.
>No Tapion
Disappointing.
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>>483631449
There's like one schizo on here who is obsessed with hating on GT for some reason. Even when nobody brings it up.
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>>483631449
btw yes I know this is dated now, got sick of making edits, but it helps put into perspective how much wiggle room there still is, even if we keep crackpot shit like the Great Ape what-ifs. We can swap out RoF minion guy and some great apes for Yajirobe and Spopovich.
Ribrianne's giant form might also be an ultimate judging by the trailer.
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>>483630416
>>483631458
Including filler and movies, Chi-Chi has more fight screentime than Yajirobe.
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>>483631113
Android 21 isn't canon. We saw a picture of Gero's wife, that has nothing to do with Android 21.
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>>483631449
Honestly I’d prefer it if all movie villains were given top priority in the end and whatever slots are left are given to the SSJ4’s and maybe the main villains. Those are the only characters any GTfag pretend to care about anyway.
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>>483631307
i've seen some people claim the chi chi one was just an npc like with bulma.
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>>483631449
We might get met halfway and be given SS4 but no other GT characters until it's dlc drop
Movie wise we might get Cooler and Broly like you said but we could possible get Bio Broly as a transformation or Tapion since he's so cool.
But who knows, it could be a slippery slope to add one or two characters due to popularity that could be packed into an all inclusive DLC
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>>483629862
Both Anilaza and Ben 10 aliens are inspired by Tokusatsu / Super Robot monsters and aliens, that's why he's a giant.
>>483630709
True, especially Goku.
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>>483631634
The only schizo is you screeching about samefags in every thread. People have always shit on GT. Get the fuck over it, you're too thin-skinned for 4chan.
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>>483631623
Tapion and Janemba not being in the SWORDS trailer basically just re-confirms that Z movie characters are not going to be in the base roster.

Like, Janemba especially is a super popular character, if he's not in this trailer, it means he's almost definitely not in the game, which means characters from the old movies in general are likely not in the game.

Welcome to the wait for DLC friend.
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>>483631790
She’s on the custom battles background with the other playable characters.
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>>483631690
>Filler and movies.
Two things this game isn't accounting for Judging by the lack of Movie chars., Gt chars and Pikkon.
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I'm bored so it's time to schizo for alittle bit
Fu's test subjects in the story were Broly and Goku Black along with Vegeta
I believe this will lead to Rose and Legendary becoming new awoken skills, the Vegeta part was nothing but padding fanservice and will lead to nothing for our CACs

I base this entirely on my own wants and desires, seeing this pic all but confirmed what I always thought,
>>483585108
Rose in different super saiyan hairstyles looks damn good on CACs just like legendary super saiyan does, oh how I yearn for those hairstyles to be in xenoverse 2, how I lust for those awokens to become reality just to see Zamasu thorw a shit fit that his unique form is no longer unique to just him but, I yearn, lust and desire these things greately I'd gladly take them over super saiyan 4, a form that seems very limited in what a character who turns into it looks like, breakers forces everyone into default Goku or Vegeta black hairstyles because nobody either knows if the black hair is part of the transformation or if it's a stylistic choice because other colors based on the bright red torso would look absolutely horrific from a design standpoint
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>>483631449
after tapion's no-show here i think i'm gonna start buying into the 'movies are dlc' agenda
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>>483631809
Nobody is more thin skinned than you faggot. You can't accept people enjoy GT so you sperg out every thread. kys.
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>>483631449
I don't understand why GTfags don't want it to be DLC. It being DLC guarantees more slots and a full storyline.
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>>483631712
NTA but Gero's wife's design is taken from Android 21.
>>483631862
That's irrelevant you utter retard when we have Bardock and Future Gohan back.
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>>483631802
No company will ever acknowledge Bio Broly, and I sincerely doubt Tapion's in when they were scraping the barrel so hard for sword characters in the new trailer that they had to use Vegito.

>>483631803
That doesn't mean they all share the same design sense. Tokusatsu covers a wide breadth of visual styles.
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>>483631512
You need to reread the manga then if you think that. Super anime Goku’s lows are much less than Manga Goku’s lows and his highs are nonexistent while he has plenty of nice moments in the anime. I’m not just talking fighting either, watch some of the fillers if you give a shit about SoL.
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>>483631961
>It being DLC guarantees more slots and a full storyline.
The only form of DLC they confirmed is "playable characters", no story fights whatsoever.
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>>483631862
>Two things this game isn't accounting for
Goku has Dragon Fist.
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>>483631858
yeah i know. that's why i think it's more likely she's playable. that one french interviewer pretty much gave her away until he had to take what he said down in order to not piss off bamco.
>>483631961
>dude just spend more $$$
anyone with a functioning brain cell can see why they wouldn't want that.
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>>483631961
Yeah I don't get it either.
Like, if they're going to do GT, I would rather it not be an afterthought like it was in the other BT games.
I want a fully featured story mode that goes over all the story arcs as well as not just the main villains but also some of the smaller antagonists.

If GT is DLC, we get that.
If they put all the big name GT characters in the base roster as an afterthought, then it would confirm that we're not getting GT DLC because why would they make a DLC that most people won't buy because all the important GT characters are already in the game?
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>>483632013
lmao that's true, calling Vegito a sword user is really one hell of a leap.
Also I do think Bio Broly is melted dog dick but there's no way we wont get him in at some point.
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King Vegeta is confirmed.
Dabura's voice (Not Sabat):
https://youtu.be/NDGeWO_am1c?t=68
King Vegeta line used for dabura (Sabat):
https://youtu.be/NDGeWO_am1c?t=93
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>>483631961
It's not about being base roster or DLC, it's about being entrenched in internet discourse and needing your "side" to "win." see the post right above you for example.
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>>483632227
Why are you talking to yourself?
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>>483631962
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>>483631862
>>483632069
They’re using more obscure shit too. One of the magazines a long while back confirmed Vegeta (End) has his Hellzone Grenade rip off he used against Buuhan as a move.
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>>483632068
They haven't NOT confirmed story mode missions being added in DLCs either anon.
The only thing we know about DLCs for this game is that the first 3 will add 20+ characters, that doesn't mean that they won't also add story missions to go with those characters.
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>>483632016
The filler of the anime is one of the worst i have ever seen, and it's easy to see the big difference between super goku manga and anime, just compare the parts where he meets zamasu
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>>483632254
It doesn't confirm anything other than Funi's laziness.
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>>483632386
Bardock isn’t shown fighting in the manga.
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>>483632227
how was it an afterthought in prior games when they kept adding more characters from there in each game? and the old games were marketed as Z games so no shit it was going to be the minority.
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>>483632254
yeah i noticed that too, dunno how they fucked that one up
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>>483632358
Fuck off you hyper-nigger.
Not everyone who disagrees with you is the same person, schizo.
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>>483632625
He knows. It's just how he shitposts. Ignore it.
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>>483632254
Your reach puts Mr. Fantastic to shame.
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>>483631858
>She’s on the custom battles background with the other playable characters.
So is Shenron
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>>483632481
if it's reused from somewhere yea
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>>483491407
I genuinely don't know how I'd play with her. I'd keep getting a booner
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>>483632172
>>dude just spend more $$$
Assuming it's in, you would have to spend $70+ anyways for less than 10 GT characters and a half-assed presence in the story (if you're lucky)
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>>483632492
Neither does F. Gohan aside from the panel I posted. They literally offscreen this fight against the Androids in the manga.
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>>483632727
Yeah and we also know that non-playable characters can also get models in the game for cutscenes (we've seen that Bulma has a model, but she's not a playable character).

Seeing a character in those little windows doesn't automatically mean they're playable.
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>>483632386
We never see Bardock fight in the manga you retard. We see Bardock fight in the TV special. Which is what SZ is basing their Bardock on.
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>>483632526
They probably just have some editor/intern in charge of cranking these out in a short timeframe leading up to the reveal times, and they just pull from a bank of old lines. Unless someone can confirm that line wasn't in BT3.

>>483632740
That's my assumption but I guess I can't say with 100% certainty. Though if they had lines recorded for characters not even revealed yet then it would be safe to assume Dabura would have enough lines recorded that they wouldn't need to sub in King Vegeta.
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>>483632451
You mean where he pesters Zamasu for a fight as a gag and immediately takes things seriously once he notices something is up with his energy during the fight? I dunno anon that’s less egregious to me than Toyo pretending Goku is a shitty student in order mishandle Roshi’s showing in the TOP and lead up to the very underwhelming Omen transformation. Or Goku insulting Krillin for getting knocked out first.
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>>483632774
Who cares? I'm not playing these games for deep ass storylines.
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>>483632227
The DLC doesn't have a story, I don't know where you got that from
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>>483633036
>and lead up to the very underwhelming Omen transformation
As opposed to Goku getting his Spirit Bomb reflected back at him?
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>>483632451
>>483633036
It's shit vs crap. Depends on what flavor of retard you want. You prefer Goku forgetting to grab the demon seal for the Mafuba (Anime)? Or him grabbing a vouvher for a "cabaret" instead (Manga)?
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>>483631307
Adding Kid Goku (Base, Oozaru), Chi-Chi, Chiaotzu, Zarbon (Base, Monster), Saibaman, and Ultimate Gohan leaves us with 49 character slots left. If one were to add the remaining OG characters:
>Pilaf Machine (Base, Combined)
>Kid Chi-Chi
>Nam
>General Blue
>Arale
>Eighter
>Tao Pai-Pai
>Deviman Spike
>Grandpa Gohan
>Tamborine
>King Piccolo
>Cyborg Tao

That leaves us with 36 slots left. There's also the obvious characters that need to be added:
>Jaco
>Oozaru Bardock
>Dodoria
>Ginyu
>Recoome
>Guldo
>1st Form Frieza (Z)
>2nd Form Frieza (Z)
>3rd Form Frieza (Z)
>Final Form Frieza (Z)
>Full Power Frieza (Z)
>Imperfect Cell
>Super Perfect Cell
>Cell Jr.
>Super Buu
>Buutenks
>Buuhan
>Kid Buu
>Cabba (Base, SS)
>Frost (1st Form, Final Form)
>Botamo
>Magetta
>Giant Bergamo

That leaves the roster with 11 slots left to fill. Who do you think will fill up that last bit of roster?
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>>483632451
But present Zamasu never meets Goku in the manga?
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>>483632884
>we also know that non-playable characters can also get models in the game for cutscenes
In the story mode, not for custom battles.
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>>483633271
Which makes no fucking sense because we were fucking told the spirit bomb can't harm somebody who isn't evil yet that's twice now that it's been used to harm a good hearted person despite that. In FighterZ when good 21 tackles evil 21 to take the blast it kills her too when it shouldn't have hurt her at all and now somehow it nearly kills Goku which is enough to bring him to signs.

I don't understand it, I'll never understand it. If they wanted Goku to eat a near death attack and for good 21 and evil 21 to kill each other why didn't they write the scenes better than abusing the spirit bomb and shitting oll over how it's suppose to work, by their logic as soon as Vegeta dodged it and it hit Gohan it should have killed him rather than him being able to bounce it back let alone Krillin being able to fucking hold the thing
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>>483633263
Source for the claim that all future DLC will never have a story mode attached?
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>>483633463
They'd obviously put in GT characters.
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>>483633919
It'd only be enough to add GT Goku (Base, SS, SS3, SS4), GT Vegeta (Base, SS, SS4), SS4 Gogeta, Syn Shenron (Base, Omega), and maybe Pan. Would you be fine with that?
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>>483633463
>That leaves the roster with 11 slots left to fill. Who do you think will fill up that last bit of roster?
Movie 8 Broly, SS, LSS
>Both sites specify that the one in the roster is from Super
SS4 Goku
SS4 Vegeta
SS4 Gogeta
Omega Shenron
>So GTfags can shut up
Beezlebuble
>Just like with Arale, he's a guest character from Tori's other work. Also they cant stop shilling Sandland
Lavender
Basil
>They both fought in the Zen expo and in the ToP. And they also have their models. It Makes no sense to ignore them and not knock out two spots
Frieza Soldier/Appule/Appule reskins
>Designated fodder fights for RoF and Bardock's story
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>>483633463
>That leaves the roster with 11 slots left to fill. Who do you think will fill up that last bit of roster?
Appule, Cui, Frieza Soldier, Nail, Mecha Frieza, King Cold, King Vegeta, Fasha, Babidi, Evil Buu
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>>483633271
You mean the scene where Goku at his absolute max power is being pushed to such a point his body has to instinctively in order not to be killed by the immense energy? The scene where he he rises back to his feat in a shower of light as everyone looks in awe? Yeah I’d say that scene more than meets the hype. And the rest of the world thinks so too considering that’s what comes to mind when people think “Ultra Instinct” while in the manga it’s barely even a footnote.
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>>483634127
They won't need to give GT Vegeta a SS form assuming it's not just SS4 Vegeta. They'd also add in Super 17 over Pan.
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If #13 makes it, I hope Funi does what they do best and just fuck all over the script. Give him have the reddest redneck lines they can think of.

https://youtu.be/1W0FwxNtukg?t=45
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>>483633463
I could argue that at least 4 of the characters you have listed as 'obvious' are not obvious at all.
>Botamo
>Magetta
Gimmick fighters that would not translate well to actual gameplay.
>Oozaru Bardock
Not really 'obvious' at all and could easily not be in the game.
>Giant Bergamo
Same as Oozaru Bardock. This isn't an obvious include at all.

You also forgot to list Gohan's other Cell Saga forms, which actually are obvious but not yet confirmed or shown.
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>>483634223
Instinctively adapt*
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>>483634242
It always rubbed me the wrong way how BT3 only had SS4 Vegeta, in a game where transforming was key.
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>>483634273
I hope they do the opposite.
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>>483633834
It’s the explosion of the Spirit Bomb that put him near death ESL-kun. Regardless of whether your good or evil the explosion itself is still enough to fuck you up if your caught in it, it’s why Goku and Piccolo had to duck for cover on Namek when that Spirit Bomb detonated.
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>>483634382
Because GT Vegeta himself did jackshit for most of the anime. Only thing people remember him for besides being Baby's meat shield was SS4 and SS4 Fusion.
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>>483634382
It was retarded because GT Vegeta's base model was already in the game.
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>>483634367
>>Magetta
nta but he could. He has a whole bunch of lava and steam based attacks, as well as that bey blade thing. I'd argue that Botamo could too if they took advantage of his bounciness and elasticity but that would involve crafting him a whole moveset.
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>>483634559
>It was retarded because GT Vegeta's base model was already in the game.
proof? unless you're talking about baby vegeta 1.
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>>483621176
Source?
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>>483634720
yeah, exactly. all they had to do was remove the markings, and change his hair black.
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>>483634651
They gave Appule a whole moveset and he did not throw a single punch in the anime or manga. Nor did he speak to anyone but Zarbon. At least Botamo has been in fights
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>>483634651
It just occurred to me but we haven’t seen any signs of Frost either have we? Think we’re getting all three forms or just sticking him with his Final form?
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>>483621176
I too can make up something without providing an actual source to it.
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>>483634814
That's just how cool Appule is.
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>>483634816
Either he's getting both his base and final or just his final.
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>>483631818
You and everyone else who think there will be no movie characters are complete retards.
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>>483633036
>You mean where he pesters Zamasu for a fight as a gag and immediately takes things seriously
Yeah a bad gag, he could have done the same without looking like an absolute retard, and why bringing the roshi stuff when i said to compare the same scenes? Dishonest bitch, and even then it is way better to have a transformation that comes from the biggest build up there is, goku's path on martials arts than just getting more powerfull thanks to the spiritbomb, and are you seriously gonna tell me goku and dragon ball as a whole haven't gone to the path of more power=the best solution? Roshi was fucking right
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>>483635038
Let the doomertards keep on going.
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>>483634273
13 hasn't talked like that in years, anon. All of his most recent appearences and lines have him as one note as Broly "Where's goku?" "I am here to kill Goku", "Do not get in my way of killing Goku"? he's Broly with a southern accent a rather poor one,too. Him speaking like a redneck is never gonna happen again, hell everything about him in the dub was made up to try and make him more entertaining the way he acts and speaks in xenoverse 2 is the real him. where as funi gave him a generic motive of being dissuaded with humanity
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>>483634767
It's from Toriyama's Lifetime Achievement Award acceptance speech.
An award he received just before his passing.
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/2024/03/11/akira-toriyama-lifetime-achievement-award-comment/

>Apparently, Dragon Ball Daima, which will unfold starting in 2024, was originally supposed to be made as an anime-original series without my input, but as I gave advice here and there, I ended up getting majorly-involved. This time, I’ve created not only the story, but the world, the characters, the mechs, all sorts of things. It will be a smorgasbord of different things, and not just intense action, so I’ll be pleased if you can enjoy watching it.
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>>483633387
One is retardation that damages the character, the other is a gag that wasn't his fault
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>>483635243
So it was gonna be another GT.
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>>483635038
And yet, we have not seen them.
At all.
Or any sign that could suggest their involvement.
At all.

But keep coping. It's funny to me.
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>>483635184
I really miss when dubs just went off-script and did whatever with the characters, music and even the story.

Now the only time they change shit is when they want to be politically correct and anime dubs just waste their time going 1:1 with the Japanese version all for a bunch of subfags who don't watch and won't appreciate it.
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>>483635362
it's hilarious if you think about it
>let's fucking do it again
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>>483634223
Hype is not better than writting, the spirit bomb idea was retarded in the first place, as jiren wasn't evil and he was way stronger than goku, but you know, anime goku is retarded
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>>483635362
Yep.
Toriyama couldn't just stand by and let that happen a second time.
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>>483635449
>no they have to force in fanfics or it's not good
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>>483635243
If I remember correctly, wasn't Daima originally called "Dragon Ball Magic" by insiders?
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>>483635484
The dude who created Broly and worked on GT is THAT autistic.
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>>483635115
Please learn how to punctuate ESL. And reread the original manga if you’re really retarded enough to believe Goku only ever focused on power alone before Toyo butchered his character in order to justify his shitty take on UI.
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>>483635732
>no the dubs should just be milquetoast adaptions that I'm not even gonna watch
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>>483635829
Surprised he never tried to push Broly into GT. They had that Cooler cameo after all.
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>>483635449
>I really miss when dubs just went off-script and did whatever with the characters, music and even the story.
Kill yourself.
>>483635509
>Muh evil
Not how the Genkidama works.
>A-a-a-anime Goku!!!
Manga Goku is Vegeta's illiterate cheerleader who doesn't even know how Gohan was born.
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>>483635874
>dude just ignore the original dialogue for my epic memes
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>>483631449
Anyone who thinks they made baby models JUST for breakers is a fool.
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>>483635874
Kill yourself
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>>483635883
>have broly get fodderized by a kid base goku or have him get taken out off-screen by vegeta, majuub, gohan, trunks or goten
i can see why he'd rather broly just not appear at all
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>>483636047
>bro just soullessly translate the source material all so a bunch of joyless faggot that want to be Japanese can hate on it
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>>483635840
From the boo saga onwards it's pretty much power focused, funny because the dbs anime is the biggest example of that, remember the retardation of blue kaioken? Looks cool sure, but you know, you just have a hate boner agaibst Toyo for some reason, when Toriyama himself participated in the manga aswell, i understand if you say super is bad as a whole, but defending the anime, really?
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>>483635840
Don't forget Toyotaro is convinced Goku was obsessed only with power AND the dragon balls, you know? The DBs Goku doesn't give a shit about outside the 4 star one due to being a keepsake of Grandpa Gohan?
>>483636271
>M-m-m-my shitty memes are soul! L-l-let me fulfill my failed writing ambitions on YOUR work!!!
Cry harder
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Site updated.
https://dbsz.bn-ent.net/character/
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>>483636271
>dude ignore the original dialogue and force in fanfics to get back at the enemies i conjured up in my head
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>>483636383
>conjured enemies
Blatant lie. Sad
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>>483636354
>But having a brain? Really?
Nobody cares about the opinion you got from a Youtuber.
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>>483636000
How does it work then? I mean still without the evil stuff it is still retarded to throw something like that to someone way stronger than you, of course he will throw it back
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>>483636359
>t. Soulless subfag
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>>483636531
>How does it work then?
It's just a normal attack.
>I mean still without the evil stuff it is still retarded to throw something like that to someone way stronger than you,
It's not? The entire point of it is that it's an attack that can be infinitely stronger than you and he had the power of his entire team in it, which meant at least triple his own max power thanks to Frieza and Vegeta.
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>still no base
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>>483636359
Retards really wanna believe Goku makes the same dumbass mistakes Vegeta does.
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>>483636514
>no arguments
>assumptions
I see... I wonder what will happen to people like you when they adapt the manga into anime
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>>483636504
Just like your life. If you want your own story, just go make one up yourself instead of trying to rewrite someone else's.
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Someone fix the OP and bake a new bread
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>>483636707
Toyotaro basically write for twitter / TFS era internet.
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>>483636747
You will NEVER be Japanese. No amount of hating your own language and good old fashioned American dubs will change that.

>verification not required
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>>483636685
It is a ball of energy that he THROWS, it is not like the kame, he THROWS it, so it can be thrown back, congratulations, you have the same iq as super anime goku
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At Super Games Fest, were the Future Trunks that were playable just base and SS?
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>>483636745
Cool story, actual retard. Have fun trying to convince people you were just pretending.
>>483636869
Ultra Ego is basically ripped straight from Twitter / Youtube.
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>>483636889
>yelling more incoherent nonsense at the imaginary enemies you made up
Autism levels is strong in this one.
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English site updated
https://dragonballsparkingzero.com/characters
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Anyone notice that Rosé Black’s hair is all wild and flowy like Corrupted Zamasu’s?
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>>483636948
Congratulation, your bait failed to be believable.
It is quite literally like the Kamehameha, that's why he can push it from a distance, retard, it's no different from a beam clash.
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>>483637090
What story? You are the one pretending like you just didn't say a thing but insults, i am still waiting any counter arguments
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>>483637112
>no argument
Sad. Old American dubs are far superior to the soulless slop they churn out now. Die mad about it.
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>>483637259
>>483637291
/dbs/ is that way, spammer retard.
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>>483637419
>no argument
Sad
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>>483637257
>It is quite literally like the Kamehameha
>that's why he can push it from a distance
Lmao, nigga do you read what you write? No one has ever been shown to push the kame against goku, however we have seen that with the spirit bomb, remember majin boo? He was resisting by pushing the spirit bomb
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>>483637291
I miss Wayne Static.
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>>483637419
/dbs/ hates toyotaro, you would fit there really well unless, you already...
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>>483635184
>never gonna happen again
I wouldn't say never, not in a world where Funimation was allowed to turn Magetta into a text-to-speech abomination. They messed with the script plenty in Super, just like in the old Z days (though not as bad). It got to the point where someone had to ask Sabat why they changed their approach to the dub since Kai.
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>>483632238
>>483631802

>Bio Broly as a transformation

Bio Broly isn't Broly, he's a failed clone.
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Why is there a gap between Goku (Super) and the UI forms? Do transformations not need to be touching anymore? Is nothing sacred?
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>>483637616
>I am brown and illiterate, lmao you wrote some obvious truth, that's crazy!
Do you train to be that retarded or it's natural? Because it's really impressive to be so retarded you think Goku's ultimate move is only to be used against weaker people.
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>>483635038
No ones saying they WON'T be in the game, but they probably won't be base roster.
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>>483638109
I assume it’s because the devs want only three transformations max for each character.
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>>483637559
>>483637616
>>483637774
/dbs/ is still that way. Sparking news don't make your schizophrenia welcome here.
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>>483638232
Well that's going to fall through, when they give us Z Frieza.
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>>483638319
Oh shit you’re right. So yeah never mind it’s just a stupid decision.
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>>483638141
You don't even know how the spirit bomb works, you say it is only a ball of ki, and it is not a videogame where goku activates his ultimate move and the enemy just takes it
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>>483635243
>>483621176

There are people RIGHT NOW, who seriously think Toriyama gives a shit about Dragonball enough to do this. It's pure marketing you retards. The man couldn't even remember SSJ2 even existed, who Tien was nor whom Launch was.

The guy is recluse, and they drag him onstage every few years to say some shit and shill products, grow up.
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>>483638586
Say the retard who think it's a technique made to kill people weaker than Goku for some reason.
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>>483637998
Oh right, man it's been so long since I watched that movie I totally forgot. Honestly it's hard to keep up with all the lore and stuff sometimes I just forget tons of shit
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>>483634273
This is fucking amazing.
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>>483638285
You are the only schizo, no one else here cares that much, even if i think your opinion is shit, i won't just tell you to fuck off like this is some kind of secret club, grow up
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>>483638616
You do remember he’s dead, right anon?
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>>483638616
>The redditor is mad that his narrative is false
Sucks to be you.
>>483638739
Your home, /dbs/, is that way.
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>>483638702
It is a technique that can be thrown back, that is all i am saying, retard, the kame isn't like that
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Babidi will return.
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>>483638586
>>483638702

Both of you are actually retarded, the spirit bomb will LITERALLY not hurt you if there is no evil in your heart, Jiren is a fucking superhero. It was always dumb to use it on him.

The only reason Trunks could use it on Zamasu was because he had become corrupted.
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>>483638864
>still no arguments
I will take you seriously when you actually start trying
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>>483638232
>>483638319
>>483638494
4 transformations max. (5 forms overall)
>Super Goku (seemingly): Base, SSJ, SSG, SSB.
>Z Frieza: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Final, 100%
Adding the 2 UIs would make it 5 transformations + Base for a total of 6.
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>>483638987
I hope so, or better yet, make Pui Pui and Yakon their own slots.
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>>483638895
>The kame isn't like that, please ignore the concept of beam clashes.
>>483639041
>You are retarded because you don't share my retarded misconception.
No, the Genkidama isn't the devilmite beam, it can kill you regardless, which is why Goku scream at a redeemed Vegeta to get out of the way.
>Literal fanfic
Zamasu is pure of heart and immune to the devilmite beam and so is Black, there is no 'corruption'.
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>>483639041
I know that nigga, but this guy is saying that it is just a regular ki blast, so all i am saying is that even if that was the case jiren would absolutely throw it back, there is just no winning in any scenario
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>>483639071
>You have to take me seriously!!!
Nah.
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>>483639307
Yeah, beam clashing is the same as throwing your own attack back at you with nothing but your own attack, keep the schizo babble
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>>483639325
>My brown brutha I share your retarded misconception!
You shouldn't
>All I'm saying is retarded nonsense. Combining his entire team's energy could never do anything!
You know, except overpower Jiren and KO him because it's an attack much stronger than Goku himself.
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>>483639465
That is not at all what i said, literal schizo making shit up, and i mean, you take me seriously enought to discuss and to tell me to leave your safe space
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>>483639591
>Being right is schizo babble
>JIREN CLASHING WITH THE GENKIDAMA IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM A BEAM CLASH!!!
Brown cope.
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>>483639640
>>483639796
Samefag
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>>483639792
>Me being retarded is made up! No u!
/dbs/. That way.
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>>483639957
I am not leaving your safe space, sorry
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>>483639947
>Samefagging
>Responding to two different posts
Mentally ill cope.
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>>483640116
At least you're denying you're a spammer from /dbs/ anymore.
Not like that denial was credible at all, we only see retarded raids like that when Sparking Zero news drop.
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>>483640125
Weird, no screenshot? That's a new
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>>483640302
>T-t-that's not how I get bullied normally?!
Nobody asked.
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>>483640291
How am i raiding? And how am i from /dbs/ when they hate Toyotaro, just like you...
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>People already going "GT is definitely next, who else is left" blissfully forgetting that they still haven't revealed Dodoria, Guldo and Android 19. The hypest characters in the roster.
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>>483639591
Yeah because we never saw stuff like someone kicking a kamehameha away or just straight up walking through it....Oh wait.
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>>483636354
In that same fight Kaioken Blue debuted Goku was accurately predicting exactly where Hit would attack from the future on the fly using nothing but his combat intelligence. And he only ever came up with Kaioken Blue because he knew that Blue’s strength lied in its precise Ki control, so when using it he wouldn’t be ensuring his death like with normal SSJ. Because again, Goku is a smart enough fighter to know that power with no control is worthless. Please stop being a retard and go through the whole series again before saying this stupid shit.
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>>483640591
they ain't ready for the return of cui
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>>483640630
Or throwing it back at goku.... oh wait
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>>483640457
It's funny you still don't realize you're telling on yourself. Anyway /dbs/ is still that way.
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>>483640726
You mean the thing Janemba did? And what happened to Cell when he lost the beam clash?
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>>483640701
Out of any lackey that could get in I want him the most. “Look, it’s Frieza” is a classic that should be in every DB game.
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>>483640685
I get the idea, but it was represented like shit, he just went
>i need more power!
However in the manga he actually comes up with a plan that isn't i need more power
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lol did they make Ribrianne's breasts bigger in Sparking Zero?
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>>483640954
Janemba used a literal portal, you dishonest fuck>>483640972
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>>483640975
>he just went
>>i need more power!
He did not.
>However in the manga he actually comes up with a plan that isn't i need more power*
He did not.
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>>483640972
If he makes it do you think they'll care enough to change his line if he uses the move against Frieza?
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>>483641038
Actually, all the girls in sparking look hella flat except for her
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>>483641135
>That doesn't count because I said so
>Random you to an unrelated post
You're retarded
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>>483641254
>LOOK IT'S COOLER
>cooler is not in the base roster
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>>483632727
Yes and every other character is either playable or Chi-Chi. Shenron is tied to a special mechanic that unlocks moves or characters, he’s not the same as someone like Bulma.
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>>483641183
In the manga he switched to blue only when he attacked so he doesn't get tired, an actual tangible plan, in the anime he got lucky that kaioken blue worked for the first time he used it, so in favor of more power he sacrifaced everything else
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>>483641254
Maybe he can scare Frieza saying King Cold's name? I don't see how else he could do it against Frieza
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>>483641460
Yeah, portals is the same as throwing your own attack back at you with nothing else but the same attack, you are right, you win
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>>483641632
>In the manga he just powered up to blue
That's needing more power.
>Using a risky technique perfectly isn't skill but switching forms, which are just all around power ups is
That's a cope.
And no, doing some rule breaking nonsense stolen from a Z filler isn't a tangible plan, especially when Toyotaro established that using Blue at all make you way weaker for the rest of the day with Vegeta.
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>>483640975
Ah yes his brilliant plan involving… transforming into Blue at the end of the fight instead of just using it at the very beginning because manga Hit is that much of a little bitch. The brilliant plan that in the end still requires using more power to win.
Meanwhile Anime Hit isn’t a little bitch and has power and skill to back up his hype, alongside being able to adapt in battle at an even faster pace than Saiyans, thus forcing Goku to use his trump card which he acknowledges isn’t perfected at the moment and he needs to end things quickly. Just because Toyo can’t write for shit doesn’t mean Goku relies solely on power, ESL.
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So is Future Trunks just not going to have SS2 and Rage?
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>>483641813
>Jiren counter attack with his eye beam is ashktually just him throwing back the genkidama from a distance without using any strength or power of his own!
>Frieza kicking away the kamehameha totally doesn't count! If he kicked it back at Goku, it totally wouldn't have worked because I said so!
>If I admit how retarded I am sarcastically, it doesn't count.
It's so funny you think you have any ground to stand on to say using the Genkidama was a bad idea just because it can be 'thrown back', like any ki attack in DB ever.
You really think you're accomplishing anything by pretending you don't understand how an attack massively stronger than you was the way to go against an enemy massively stronger than you.
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>>483641937
>In the manga he just powered up to blue
Why did you ignore every other bit of my post? That wasn't the point at all, are you comparing a well established powerup to a new convenient one that might now work but still does? Trained out of screen by the way, switching forms is nothing especial or convenient, the way goku used it is what made it special
>Ah yes his brilliant plan involving… transforming into Blue at the end of the fight instead of just using it at the very beginning
Yeah, because in the manga using blue actually has consequences and losses a lot of power over time, he was playing it safe
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>>483641667
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Ah!_Lord_Beerus!
Would be funny but I wouldn;t make sense lore wise.
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>>483641956
>Meanwhile Anime Hit isn’t a little bitch and has power and skill to back up his hype
It's insane how medicore modern mangaka like Sandrovich and Toyotaro literally can never have a bad guy or new opponent live up to their hype, they also have to be disappointing mess who need 50 caveats to not be instantly one shotted, which just make the good guys also look bad for struggling at all or not winning instantly.
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>>483642372
We can go days likes this, so just lets post proof
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>>483642437
>You're comparing straight up just using a safe power up that's already mastered for free power vs using skills to control a technique in the midst of battle as a controlled risk?!
Yeah and it make the manga look bad.
>switching forms is nothing especial or convenient, the way goku used it is what made it special
Yeah, he used it in a retarded way that contradict stuff Toyotaro introduced one chapter earlier.
>Yeah, because in the manga using blue actually has consequences and losses a lot of power over time
You mean the consequences that were completely ignored for Goku's form switching power up to work at all?
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>>483642437
As the other anon stated, Goku’s so called genius there is retarded and contradicts the rule Toyo established for Blue just a chapter before. And how is Goku dusting off an old technique and using it in conjunction with a form tailor made for it not supposed to be smart? Oh yeah you still haven’t addressed Goku predicting Hit attacking him from the future by the way. Doesn’t fit with your headcanon of Goku being a meathead is that it?
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>>483642617
Toyotaro's and Toriyama's manga will get animated by the way
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>>483642727
>Comparing Goku letting the Genkidama free without attacking with it to actually using it as an attack
Here's some actual proof.
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>>483642915
>You're comparing straight up just using a safe power up
Safe? He literally said it's over if his control wasn't perfect
>Yeah, he used it in a retarded way that contradict stuff Toyotaro introduced one chapter earlier.
What was contradicted?
>You mean the consequences that were completely ignored for Goku's form switching power up to work at all?
Ehat do you mean?
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>>483642617
I can’t say anything on Sandrovich but yeah that’s just one of Toyo’s many sins as a writer. It’s not just Hit either, just look at how pathetic Black and Zamasu are in the manga in comparison to the anime. Or how Kefla got off screened by fucking Gohan who didn’t even have a mini training arc like in the anime.
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>>483642930
You want me to adress it? Fine, it is convenient and boring as fuck, he can just predict him perfectly... And the blue kaioken isn't safe at all, i don't understand
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>>483643336
I guess at least Jiren stayed mostly the same, like it was hard to fuck him up.
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>>483643132
Man, i am tired
>jiren isn't evil
>jiren is stronger than goku
So what made goku think this was a good idea?
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>>483643336
Yeah zamasu anime is way better
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>>483643359
I didn’t say it was safe, I said it was smart and Goku wasn’t even planning on using it until Hit evolved to a level where it was needed. It’s safe in comparison to other Super Saiyan forms where it’s implied he would just die straight away from trying to use it I suppose. And do you realize how impressive it is to accurately predict the movements of someone with no tells at all, because they are attacking from the fucking future?
>Provide evidence of Goku using combat intelligence/skill
>n-no not that i-it’s lame!!!
Kek. Alright whatever you say ESL.
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>>483643612
>Man, I got proven wrong, give me a do over!
>What made you think using his strongest technique that can be stronger than him was a good idea?!
The fact that basic decision making already broke your mind tell us that you not understanding Goku's very understandable and logical actions very much show it was a good idea.
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>>483643445
Are you forgetting him not being able to hit Roshi because Toyo did too many shrooms that month anon? Also he fucked up Roshi too now that I mention it. Just another thing the anime handled much better.
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>>483644015
It is not earned, the path to ui was shown, the path to convenient bullshit in a fight, wasn't
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>>483643192
>Safe? He literally said it's over if his control wasn't perfect
Learn to read, the safe power up is just going blue like in the manga.
>What was contradicted?
The fact that you can't use the form that way or you become ridiculously weaker, as shown with Vegeta.
>Ehat do you mean?
Read above.
>>483643876
Yeah, it gives an actual reason for Zeno to nuke the timeline.
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>>483644179
The strongest technique that works really well against evil guys and can be thrown back... Yeah, bye i am tired
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>>483644273
>The path to UI was shown as being a fuck up who has no skill, can't fight outside using raw power and then remembering his old teachers who had no fucking clue UI was a thing telling him the most basic shit he already learned. That's a good thing.
You're delusional.
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>>483644457
>The ultimate technique I invented rules for and that can be countered the same way any ki attack can
>Yeah, I lost, please let me run away to cope!
It's insane how retarded you are.
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>>483644785
Sorry you got dragged into this dumb little slap fight with this ESL sperg anons.
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>>483644457
>IT CAN BE THROWN BACK!!!!
You keep repeating that like it means anything. No wonder you're tired if you keep just babbling nonsense at people.
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>>483644384
It’s also a lot cooler than a shitty Meta Cooler rehash or whatever the fuck Toyo was doing.
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>>483644912
Happens every time there's Sparking news honestly.
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>>483645107
>or whatever the fuck Toyo was doing.
Probably ripping off some capeshit moment with clones or a regenerating bad guy honestly.
It was too lame to be a Metal Cooler rip off, especially with Vegeta one shotting two merged Zamasu out of nowhere.
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>>483645261
The dick sucking is crazy
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>>483645498
>Anon can't fathom people agreeing
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>>483645498
Oh hey ESL I thought you left already. Got any more divine wisdom for us?



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