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>Previous Thread
>>483740093
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sex with furries dressed in TF2 outfits
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Tf2 has been saved right on time for the new crates.
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Good times are over bros
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shut up iron player
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if you dont have at least one (1) placement medal you are noobass lol
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>>483662730
more femscout pixel art practice
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b4nnybros, i don't feel so good...
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>>483821410
is b4nny washed up?
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zesty has texas slims dome shine IRL
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obsessed workshopper
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>>483821410
>randomly shoots the empty floor hoping someone will come in
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fuck tf2

go outdoors

touch grass

catch fish
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>>483821738
Uwu yummy pic
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>>483821862
medic main btw
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3 NIGAS
ON CART
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>>483821670
He looks 45 but he's in his 20s
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>>483821670
who the fuck cares
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>>483823370
That's what living in Texas does to you
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT-ligjID94
new gregfrags kino
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>>483821670
>>483823370
>already balding in his 20s
OH NO NO NO NO
AHAHAH
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>>483823936
How else do you keep your attention span for 500+ tours in mvm without meds desu
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>>483821527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5YNiCfWC3A
b4nny has the worst health habits, looking at his newest VODs, his skin really doesn't look good. Zesty is aging way better than him.
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*DEAD*(TEAM) b4nny: SHUT THE FUCK UP
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medic booba
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>>483824956
wheres your booba
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scout, you did collect everyone's pornography?
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>>483824796
i was in a dark room, loud tunes, lookin to cap the point soon
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>>483823936
Either you drug out like a hero (LazyPurple) or you overdose enough to become the villain (Weezy)
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>>483824796
he's an alcoholic that spends all his time sitting down nolifing tf2 while seething 60% of the time
bro is not going to make it to 60
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https://youtu.be/l4LWyOPvSlw
>Zesty if he never went down the Emporium rabbit hole and stuck to weapon essay videos
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>>483824796
You have to shower every day and wash your face in the morning and night. b4nny still has acne at his age, and if you don't do anything about it, it makes you look awful and eventually it may even scar/leave red marks on your face. b4nny probably doesn't shower for days and then he plays his sweatfests and passes out, awful for your face. He also doesn't shave, which makes you look 10 years older and like a slob. He also doesn't exercise (something you have to do once you hit 30 or else you're just waste away), he drinks, and his regular daily activity is constantly stressful and mentally draining.

If anything, he has motivated me to make some regular good habits going forward.
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>>483823057
post fempyro
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>>483826610
He'll live. Not well mind you, old unhealthy habits punch hard after you become older, but he'll live.
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>>483828390
>QUIT HAVING FUN!!!
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dead game
dead general
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UixIn83h7m0&pp=ygUKZml4aW5nIHRmMg%3D%3D
I don't get why this video has so many dislikes, I honestly think most of these changes are pretty good
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>>483828390
If you do a lot of cardio, you can actually tell who doesn't exercise just by looking at their face. They don't have a lot of blood flow and it shows. It's hard to overstate how important it is to have a well-functioning set of heart and lungs, it's basically provides a stat boost in every stat IRL.
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>>483830370
bait
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>>483829148
fempyro
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>>483830532
Shounic on suicide-watch
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>>483830401
The heart is the most important muscle in the body that keeps the rest of your body functioning and functioning efficiently. I don't know why people don't value cardio considering this.
Also, sniffed.
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>>483830532
Valve is... doing the treadmill work?!
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>>483830532
Good valve. Now we just need some communication and a long term plan. I don't think anyone should spend a dime on this game until we have some assurance that they'll keep this up after the summer update.
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>>483830532
B-but Shounic said us bot xisters could not be stopped!
Bot host sissies our response????
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>>483830532
Does that mean...
Tf2 ist actually fixed?
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Is it true that the main bot developer is Californian and got doxxed? If he's in the US, will Valve do anything?
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Bros...
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Banning bots means nothing if matchmaking is still a feature.
I want to play TF2, not Jill's quasi-competitive Frankenstein's Monster.
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I want to ay tf2, not some faggot's pay to win quickplay server
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>>483831590
shame they removed the community server browser huh........
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>>483828390
>>483830401
i dont have acne but my cheeks kind of have scars and red marks which i deeply regret
do you guys know any tips to get clearer skin?
so far i've been doing cardio and applying moisturizer and i feel like it's improving but im not sure
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>>483831940
I want vanilla community servers to be full round-the-clock like they used to be.
Absolutely retarded argument.
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>>483831772
>Valve servers didn't exist under quickplay
post-mym fags are a blight upon this game.
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>>483832061
then play them more
supply and demand faggot, if community servers are empty it means no one cares about your autistic quickplay fantasy and the majority if fine with matchmaking
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Weezy single handedly saved tf2
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>>483833321
um sweety there's no quickplay and new weapons so tf2 actually isn't fixed ;)
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Gabber single handedly saved tf2
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no no, it was zesty who saved tf2
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>>483830401
finally you posted a good pic
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We are so back bros!
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>>483833321
give him more adderrals
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>>483830532
holy shit, valve actually doing something? in 2024?!
maybe this year will be the one...
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>>483832559
the majority is post mym babbies that want to do little more than to click the big green button. much easier than looking for a server that isnt plugin bullshit, trannytopia or skial. and once they do find a server, its gonna be dead because of the aforementioned reason
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>>483831267
>main bot developer
and who is that? I honestly lost the count on how many bot hosters and/or creators are there
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>>483830532
Surprising. I wonder if they finally deployed their "Trust system" where they check how an account interacts with Steam and assign a score depending on this.
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I made this
thoughts?
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>>483833826
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>>483834123
>https://old.reddit.com/r/tf2/
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>>483834123
Forgot to add, that's a medic weapon, it would shoot blood like pyro's flamethrower that's why it takes away the health
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I can't STOP making these ZestAI sloppas
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>>483830532
NOOOO
STOOOOOOP
THIS IS TREADMILL WORK
PLEASE
NO
NOOO
MY 1 CENT METALSSS
AAAAAA
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My LMAOBOX alt is still in the clear.
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>>483832026
>which i deeply regret
Don't beat yourself up over it. Pretty much everyone has face marks due to acne. It's impossible to avoid entirely with puberty, stress, genetics, and no one really teaching kids about face hygiene in the first place. You also just have bad days where you can't shower or forget, then you get acne and later marks, and it's annoying, but shit happens.

Just clean your face regularly, moisturize it daily, avoid stress, and eat daily vegetables/fruit. Don't leave crap like sunscreen on your face without washing it out afterwards. The rest is up to genetics. You don't need cleansers but they can help clean your face better if you get shit on it regularly. Red marks will go away, though they sometimes take a while. Vitamin C cream may help with them.
Scars can lessen over time and can fade, but some are permanent without medical intervention (laser, needling). Thankfully, laser and needling treatments do usually get rid of scars or fade them nicely.
Yes, do cardio every day. Cardio is a necessary thing your body needs like sleep, food, hygiene, and stimulation. It will help your skin. A little sun will also help clear up your skin (but not too much sun).

b4nny just lives in his room playing Tf2 all day... never exercises, eats like crap, he drinks, he rages all day. He's slowly deteriorating health-wise, like all 30+ gamers do. You're not 20 forever, so realize that when you're young before the damage is done. b4nny can actually still change, 30's are nothingburger for lifestyle changes.
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>>483834276
are you a soldier main or something
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>>483834276
Smoother and zestier alternative
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>>483833826
>people criticize the game for having inflated player count
>bots all get banned
>player count increases even higher now that people are returning to the game
beautiful
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>>483834918
>people are returning to the game
debunked by teamwork.tf
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>>483834687
I'm a scout & engineer main
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>>483827010
this is a really jerma-esque sub special
wtf he even has 2 ottos

how do you guys think an altercation between the two would go down
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heed his warning...
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>>483834993
I played several casual games yesterday and in many games, people would say something like
>"returning to the game here... haven't played in a while"
>"anyone else back after the news after the bots?"
and other variations of basically the same comment.
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>>483835487
>do I care? nah.
btw I'm currently shitting my diaper and I need to sperg out
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>>483830532
NOOOOOOOOOO DELETE THIS THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HARDWARE/IP BANNED SHOUNIC SAID ITS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE
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>hear casual is bot-free
>queue up
>game keeps automatically cancelling my queue after a few seconds
What's going on
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>>483836203
known issue, try restarting steam
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>>483835487
>i'm going to get REVENGE on valve by giving them more money to ban me again... heh, nobody is allowed to tell hacker anarchists what to fricking do in a children's shooter game...
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>>483834918
>game ruining bots get banned
>idle bots just sitting and waiting for crates still make up 50% of the playerbase
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>>483834993
>summer so most people have free time
>clear reason to get back in to have a savetf2/fixtf2 victory lap after 6 years of bots being an issue
>teamwork.tf still stuck reporting 10k~ players like its the dry season where nothing happens and people are in school/work
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>>483836694
Being fair, Valve has incentive to ban them as well given they're ruining the MannCo Economy and inflating the value of items.
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>>483834276
when did he post the original pic anyways
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>>483836513
>valve starts taxing f2p accounts in june 2020
>bothosters start losing their premium accounts in june 2024
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>>483821410
I don't see the problem
just your usual """high level""" soldier gameplay
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>>483824901
are his pupils dilated
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>>483836776
The average normie tf2 player has no clue what is going on or not regarding the bots issue
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>>483836828
thats exactly what valve did
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>>483836873
I’m sure Zesty hate this pic now lol
Does anyone have the black zesty version ? The one with the curly hair
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>>483834035
Probably Rosne. Who worked on a cathook fork after the cathook dev called quits.
Hes like the only botfag Ive seen so far who doesnt seem to be a complete skid.
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>>483837053
Lol yeah but they're doing it in a way where Valve doesn't get any of the profit so ergo the hat economy must be cleansed of bots.
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>>483837317
Valve has repeatedly banned idle bots, they gave out the Cheaters Lament in 2009 to any good players that didn't idle

banning trade bots is the real treadmill work because theres no cost to entry and the hosters are motivated by pure greed rather than attention on the internet
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>>483830532
>check blocked list
>literally every single closet cheater I encountered still cheating
>not a single vac ban on sight
Literally worthless.
These fuckers ruin more games than any bot party.
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>>483834519
Can you tell if theres any juicy recent info on the LMAObox forums? I wanted to take a peek there but the bitches require a login to view them
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>>483837657
do you want him to end up like Rosne?
doxxed, carpet bombed and fed to the dogs?
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Come to think of it, OMEGATROONIC hasn't been heard from in months right?
Maybe he really did get drone striked.
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>Weezy goes into a 30-hour long Adderall-fuelled trance which he cannot remember anything from
>bots suddenly disappear a few hours later
B-Bros?
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>>483836776
Don't bother, you can't convince chart retards that they could have been fed false data because it was presented in a nice way
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>>483835114
>LA faggot who suffers great pain if he moves too fast vs average-build texan guy
Zesty mogs 100%, if you tell him about Jerma's chat he will go kill mode
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>>483835487
cheaters would be the biggest lolcows if they were even slightly less careful about hiding their personal information.
I would love to see the kind of decrepit living conditions these "people" operate from.
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>>483838719
Jerma at 30 would kill troonsty with one punch. He's a limp frail lanky faggot, while jerma used to be RIPPED
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>>483839176
Yeah, but he's at his 40s now, fat and slow from cannabis medicine not to mention his guts being upside down
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why is it that the 142 round wins on powerhouse has just 0.2% less completions than killing 15 enemies that arecapping a point? are that many people using achievement servers?
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When will they ban trading bots and idle bots?
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jerma would just use his mind powers
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/h2zkGyfZFKs
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>>483839457
Valve doesn't care about them because you can't craft any of the new cosmetics with metal or find them in drops and more crates = more people who might buy keys.
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>>483839342
Exactly. Jerma's dad age with some mystery
shitsty already looks 45 despite being in his 20s.
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>>483839176
>>483839342
>My eceleb could beat your eceleb
Ah, truly a team fortress 2 discussion
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>>483838251
Why is he suddenly going manic? I thought the petition thing was still over a month away.

Please sleep. The bots are gone man.
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>Weezy is so high on Adderall he has ascended to a higher plane
>A saxxy was sacrificed
>The bots were banned
Gaben has been summoned
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How many years has it been?
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>>483840150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXYLea1VWC4&t
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>>483838815
theyre probably "normal" people like some guy who has a normal job and keeps his mental illness in check by periodically shivving a homeless guy or setting fires. I find that to be more disturbing than them being hyper neets in some decrepid gooncave. Imagine your coworker who seems normal at first glance spending his free time hosting bots for TF2.
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Already seeing some bots in casual.
Named "rox #fixtf2"
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>>483841421
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>>483841460
Screenshot or gtfo
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>>483839724
zesty and jerma ARE Team Fortress 1 and 2
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>the people botting your game are 10 year olds
https://youtu.be/1r57WkOK0to
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>>483820872
I got into TF2 in 2010 when I wanted to buy Portal because I was obsessed with it after seeing it on youtube
I learned that it's in this Orange Box and the boxed version was the same price as regular Portal so I got that
The place I bought it at doesn't exist anymore, it was this small corner at a small gallery, the clerk was an older man and he was like "we don't have games for the box" (referring to xbox) and I had to tell him that Orange Box was the title
I tried running TF2 (piece of shit computer from like 2004) in a bot game and it ran at a silky smooth 2 seconds per frame. But 2 months later or so my parents got me a computer for my room and that's when I started playing the shit out of TF2 basically every day

Ah memories.
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>>483839627
Valve used to care about idlers
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>>483841556
You're just gonna say it's heckin old if i do
It was in EU, on 5cp badlands. Someone else go check
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>>483841696
why does her face look like that. the cheek has a right angle and protrudes
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>>483841641
and people said zoomers don't play tf2. They absolutely do play tf2, it's free and has that timeless artstyle that they love. I find that zoomers play everything they can (Fortnite, Roblox, Tf2, etc.).
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>>483841979
Just the style
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>>483841556
nta and I had 2 of them on harvest (EU)
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>>483841912
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>>483837657
There's only 3 threads about the ban wave with few replies, I assume most are in Discord.
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>>483842354
at least we're punching holes in bot hoster wallets, so its not all for naught
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>look at the workshop queue
>first item is a pass for retards who deleted or crafted achievement items to get them back
>anyone who says its their own fault gets banned (this is valves official stance)
>guys malding on how to get a black rose in 2024
this community is done for
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>>483839627
Besides they take a cut off every trade and players dont care about those bots either
Hell the banana scam game is still in steams top charts and definitely botted to high hell
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>>483834575
thank you for the holy advice, tf2g poster
may you be blessed with long killstreaks and random crits
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where's the strange dragon's fury...?
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>>483842038
>zoomers play everything they can
Then why does fortnite have a gorillion players? Doesn't fortnite also have among us and other shit in it to keep children glued?
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>>483843480
fortnite has among us?
damn
fortnite x tf2 crossover when
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>>483841641
>check the new github page
>THIS IS A REUPLOAD, ROSNE QUITTED
it was that easy? one ban wave and he quits?
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>>483839457
Never, since they would have to focus on Steam rather than their games to mitigate bot accounts and there's no way to stop automated account creation without fucking up the user experience.
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>>483834001
That's just another way to say quick play isn't in demand, a streamlined "button that gets me into a game" is.
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>>483843846
OY VEY ARE YOU IMPLYING THAT AS SOON AS BASIC ANTI-CHEAT MODERATION IS PRESENT 1 GUY CANT SHUT DOWN THE GAME?
SHUT IT DOWN!
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>>483830532
Valve's probably experimenting with an automated ban system, because I doubt they updated the VAC database.
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>>483843480
Fortnite is like Roblox-lite now, there's a ton of different custom and official mini games.
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Can't believe making Omegatronic gay porn saved TF2
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>>483845067
You joke but reddit will unironically think this
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im going to give valve a month before I trust tf2 to buy some hats again
I saw fucking dozens of mass unboxings though in public servers though, so people are fucking go hog wild
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It's probably possible to figure out with extreme certainty what a client's input device is by keeping a record of everything they send to the server and feeding it to a function that plots it along a number of axes, then comparing outputs to labelled data. A matchmaking system does have the benefit of being a black box. It's possible that sorting on input heuristic could eliminate the cheater problem without any legal liability. I wonder what valve's new system is doing, if anything at all, that makes them confident enough to issue bans.
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>>483834918
TeamworkTF numbers haven't changed one bit so it's Idle bot hosters cranking up the crate farming numbers trying to make it look like a legit playercount boost
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>>483845630
Can you unbox my boxers
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If we stick "10 banned accounts = 1 case opened" in front of a treadmill then valve will start losing those pink cookie calories real fast
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>>483845801
imagine being THIS delusional
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>bots get banned
>Weezy is confirmed to be a drug addict
Step in the right direction but now we need to ban redditors and TF2tubers along with telling people complaining about "muh updates" to shut the fuck up.
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>>483846171
Imagine thinking spreading out your bots over multiple hours made it subtle when done in the middle of the night and early morning on a Friday

Can't expect much from retarded Russians
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>>483846839
May we see these Russians.
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>>483845067
homosexuality won
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>Mastercoms NEEDS to open source how he got his playercount numbers, he is benefiting somehow from upholding a lie
>teamworktf? Nah thats fine if they don't want transparency theres no way the dev could benefit from lying, he and his youtuber buddies would never clickbait "tf2 dying" content
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>>483821387
Sports bra + spats is peak.

>>483830532
This is good, but considering Valve's abysmal track record I'm not expecting this to last long term.
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>>483831127
>Now we just need some communication
Hahaha
Even when Valve was good the one thing they didnt do was talk to the public, and the one time they tried it was stomped and spat on by Tyler McNigger's unhinged desire to get a story out regardless of ethics or accuracy.
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>>483848452
The big hope is that they made massive changes behind the scenes and to source 2 (basically still source 1 with bells and whistles) to accommodate deadlock, and are testing them out on tf2 first
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https://x.com/mastercoms/status/1806508034639692009

>mastertroon says there's only 14000 idle bots
>refuses to elaborate as to how they get this number
>makes passive aggressive jabs at zesty's videos, dismissing them as arbitrarily inserted conclusions
>rightfully gets called out by zesty for ignoring him
>"aiiieeee I got 4 replies to my thread I'm being brigaded!"
>"I-I'll work with anyone! If I don't see your questions....they just got spam filtered! You can't complain if I ignore you!"
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>>483834276
>starts white
>turns brown
>becomes black
He really is a true Texan
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>>483845801
yeah it's really odd that teamworks numbers never seem to change that much
https://web.archive.org/web/20230317200012/https://teamwork.tf/community/statistics
https://web.archive.org/web/20230713190007/https://teamwork.tf/community/statistics
supposedly the summer update was a big hit last year revenue wise and with everyone loving that seal map and vscript vsh, yet teamwork says theres only a 5k players difference between march players and summer players
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>>483831590
>I'm glad the city isn't flooded but they still need to drain the swamps
I can respect your desires but the bigger of the two issues here is getting adressed
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>>483834276
Post more of them
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Has Tyler said anything about FixTF2?
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>>483849183
he is too busy winning in life to care about online autism
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>>483849183
He's too busy sucking on the Deadcock.
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>>483834276
>Z. Jesus, meet P. Jesus
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>>483849272
Oh that slaps me on the knee
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>>483834276
Zesty Jesus, Zesty Ganesha and Zesty Yeezus
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>>483842624
>anyone who says its their own fault gets banned (this is valves official stance)
to be fair valve have always been inconsistent on this, sometimes people get their items restored, other times they don't, it always depended on who answered the support ticket.
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>>483845780
...IP fingerprinting?
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>>483848857
That's cause their stats are bullshit lol
There's always a ton of players returning for Halloween and Smissmass, anyone who actually plays the game knows that
And during the funny caugh virus every single game on steam experienced a surge in players
But according to teamworks TF2 player count has been mostly the same for over 8 years, sure thing
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>>483841421
I know there are a bunch of "serial killer hidden as normal guy" types around but the types of people to host bots on TF2 don't seem like the type. They seem terminally online. Consider the guy who spends like $150 on this shit, waiting for his paycheck so he can continue to host bots. That's the same type of behavior that furries engage in when they commission their endless amounts of fetish porn. Sure they may have a job, but they're the type of co-worker you avoid.
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Don't worry guys, it's ok to gamble now. #tf2 is #fixed
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>>483849724
If the screenshot I saw about bots is true, it's a dozen guys at a time stimming and raging with the word NIGGER like anon's little brother saw him on 4chan and is trying to impress his big bro
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>>483849724
He'll give up after the second or third time lol. He probably had those bot accounts for literal years so he didn't see them as a big investment, but he will reconsider when he has to buy them every other week with his third worlder russian paycheck.
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>>483843846
>some hackers legit go "and I'll fucking do it again" after being sent to court for breaching big corporations
>Rosne shits his pants and runs away after the most lenient game company gives him 1(one) game ban
What a huge pussy fucking lmao
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>>483841641
No delete this shounic told me they're literal rocket scientists this can't be happening!!
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TF2 will actually eventually die, not as a result of bot hosters, but because people don't want to use dedicated servers for no real reason
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>>483850812
they're giving people bigger criminal sentences to trick them into going to the ukraine war in russia, these faggots don't want risk dying over a bot hobby
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Can we get some lads in konata or castaway.tf paris pls???
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>>483851158
>TF2 will actually eventually die
So does everything
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>>483852145
it will die faster than it should have
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>>483807984
It was never once implied Spy married Scout's mom, though
In fact it's more implied that he's a deadbeat that ran away
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>>483848782
>my tool 3 years ago said its 30k
>um actually my improved tool says its only 14k
>so it might be wildly wrong but trust me because... it just is accurate this time ok
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>increases heavy's speed on hit rather than slowing others down upto 50%
This is the only good change suggested, finally people will switch from tomislav on offense. Still slow as shit but can strafe around. Why doesn't heavy get any offensive options?
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>>483849859
>Two chins
>Dear God
>There is more
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>Why doesn't heavy get any offensive options?
Natascha.
Brass Beast.
>b-but those are bad
No. You're bad.
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>>483853090
>Brass Beast
>offensive
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>>483823057
big slappy
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>>483853090
You have to understand, TF2 fans are retarded because they only main Soldier
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>>483849859
zesty if he was a TF2tuber
oh wait
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>>483853351
It does more damage which means it's more offensive, can't you do math?
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>>483834276
now we only need Chinese zesty
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>>483853351
Just sit on top of the cart bro
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>>483853090
Brass Beast is a defensive minigun. It is only useable on defense. Well, I guess you can do Payload offense cart Heavy with it.
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>weapon that does more damage and lets you kill people twice as fast isn't offensive
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>>483853854
I really like using family business brass beast GRU
No I will not be feeding my starving teammates
Yes, I will carry the team on offense
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I only use Natascha because it slows people which always leads to angry retards in chat shouting at me
>soldier
>demoknight
>soldiers
all denied their 'movement' at the expense of some damage
I win
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>>483853834
Boom, headshot.
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>>483854421
>tanks it with built in damage resistance
what now sniperKEK?
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>>483823057
ok now post the other side
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https://old.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1dqn4fs/i_have_5_hours_of_playtime_with_scout_and_my_best/
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>>483823057
Pixel art ass shouldn't look so good
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>>483854507
hit 3 headshots on a quasi-unmoving target
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latest trvth nvke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzfz8zUUU4Y
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>>483830532

>>483748213
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>>483854771
>get headshot once
>take out fists of steel
>snipertranny starts seething immediately
>wait for medic to heal me up
>back in the game in 5 seconds
>rinse and repeat until sniperKEK rq
feels good to be a GOD
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>>483855015
Something interesting actually is that if you don't have overheal, the Machina can oneshot a heavy with fists of steel if you fully charge up. I had to learn this the hard way
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>>483855015
it might be better to keep the brass beast spun up for 20% damage resistance and no healing penalty vs fists of steel with 40% damage resistance, but 50% healing penalty.
if you're not currently shooting someone, and you're worried about headshots, it's also a good idea to jiggle your mouse around wildly and unpredictably. Most snipers will either keep missing your head, and either hit your body by accident or miss entirely if you do that. After a while they'll resort to aiming for the body, at which point you have already won.
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Do you think tf2tubers will shill the summer update if the bots are gone for one week?
Picture related, maybe
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>>483855015
<sniper gets a free headshot on me
<this makes me immediately swap from my damage dealing weapon and retreat
<somehow this btfos the sniper
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>aislop image
>time wasting e-celeb question
sir, this is the team fortress 2 general
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>>483855695
can't even shitpost in /tf2g/ without encountering robots anymore
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>>483855695
I do rather have slightly related uncanny aislops than tranime garbage honestly
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>>483855695
Who are you talking to?
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aislop is soulless garbage. this is an anime website
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>>483856049
>this is an anime website
>I love the soul of tranime garbage

I think most people on tf2g on any /g/ don't give much shit about animes
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>>483855695
judging by the posts in these threads its actually the zesty jesus general
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they already figured out what v*lve is doing
too early tftroons
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my painis
your ainis
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>>483855015
>get headshot once
>take out fists of s-
>get headshot again and die
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>>483856550
and then you woke up
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gas ape on point
gas ape took 80
I'm dead
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>>483821753
I cant really find a patch of grass where the roaming packs of squatters are claiming, and fish is another story relating to most rivers having either cartel or a crack den near by being raided hourly by homeland security.
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MONKEY PYRO MONKEY PYRO FUCK YOU MONKEY PYRO FUCK YOUUUUU
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>>483823665
FUCK TEXAS ALL MY HOMIES HATE TEXAS! #TEXAS IS NOT A SOUTHERN STATE #SOUTH CAROLINA GANG
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>>483856049
Ai-non here, I think these ai goofy photos are inoffensive, and there is absolutely no way to make them in a more traditional way with photoshop, it's a new media, and kinda the only type of AI that is ok
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The bots are gone but I'm still having more fun in TF2C for some reason
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>>483854086
The problem with BB is that damn rev-up time. Heavy has 2 main issues:
>He's slow
>and he has to rev-up to start dealing damage

Giving heavy more mobile secondaries does help a lot with is first issue (I actually like your loadoad there), but not really with the second. Then on top of that, the BB then doubles down on that second issue making it worse. The issue with that is, the BB doesn't give anything in return for that anyway. Heavy already has the highest DPS in the game, why does he need more? And why put that unnecessary buff to his damage on a weapon that makes worse his second issue, which makes getting off that extra damage harder anyway? It's just a downgrade unless you want to be a sentry Heavy, which is a meme unless you are sitting on last on defense. You can take stock and actually retain what little mobility you do have, or go tomi if you want to try and tradeoff some of your damage for a little more mobility (a good alternative to stock). I just think the Brass Beast is crap all around.
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>>483857776
As long as you use AI for the funnies, I don't really care; that's my view.
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pls rember that wen u have bad day
never forget ttimes wen u fraged happy

wen broken heart always rember 3 nigas on cart
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>>483857776
And just adding, in Asia most people don't care about the whole "huhhh AI is bad !!" debate, I'm filipino, and no ones give a shit about it there, I heard it's the same in Korea, and Japan even
Only some artist are offended
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>>483858265
yes I have the same point of view, I'm not using it to steal artist jobs, just to make memes
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>>483857776
The Internet has been gender-swapping and race-swapping pictures of people since forever, it's not a new media nor is it revolutionary, it's just an easier way to do it
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Look, basically I'm just not gonna play it (casual matchmaking)
I know... UGH I know I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!
It's just that I'm not going to play it is all
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yipee...
the bots are gone...
can't wait to go back to matchmaking where you can't even spectate or switch teams...
and have my favorite community servers die out again...
tf2 is #saved!
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>>483857776
>>483858351
I think it's funny that most people whining about AI are Twitter diaperfur vore scat blueberry trans furry fetish """artists""".
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>>483858351
>soulless bugmen dont care about everything becoming soulless slop
makes me think
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>>483858351
>people notorious for stealing the creations of others don't oppose aislop
hmm
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>>483859024
I thought that was the British.
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>>483858847
this kek, and the ugly pokemon fanartist

>>483858953
>>483859024

I didn't mention chinese for a reason anon
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engineer was given a portal gun alongside the other portal 2 crossover items that replaced his teleporter
how was tf2 changed
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>>483858351
>>483858265
>>483857776
I just feel like what people complain what AI art does is done every day by humans. I will trace or draw someone else's design for practice or to make a meme. We use others works for references and many many people will fuse designs and concepts they didnt invent together to make their own style. So both the conceptual copying and literal copying are taking place, I'm not seeing why we can't trust plagerism standards of manmade works to function here. Art and science are both mediums that rely on derrivatives of what has already come out and we have learned from to continue. The line is if they're making money off it, and even then if the design is blatent enough to say it's copied enough.
Otherwise AI is an amazing tool for any industry that aggregates data and either needs ideas on avenues to explore next or see patterns that humans had missed. On one of his last streams Zesty had Mega Scatterbomb on they were discussing how practical it has been for data analysis and research.
I feel like amoral corner cutting plagerists exist in any and every medium, to look at those people using AI for something like Willy's Chocolate Experience and curse AI for it is like looking at 3rd world telemarketer scammers and cursing telephones as a whole.
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Hey we're about to play against the gacha menace of /snowg/ in the /vg/ league playoffs
F4 and get ready to mann up
https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague
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>>483861025
We have the eye of a tiger, the heart of a lion, the wings of an eagle, the big muscular arms of a panther-man, and the silent majesty of a kraken!
Destroy them.
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>>483820872
Probably lost to the YT algorithm, but does anyone have a Spy fragmovie shitpost where he's making fun of the ">>" people do to show fast forwarding? Just an excessive amount of >> as a joke. One of the comments I remember said "this is your best shitpost"

Here's an unlisted movie I found on another channel while trying to find the one I mentioned (trade?): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVP87UUpTKE
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scamming tradebros on suicide watch
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>>483861951
NOOOO YOU GOY YOU CAN'T JUST ENJOY THE GAME YOU MUST GENERATE PROFITS FOR MY HAT RACKET
BAD GOY! BAD!
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>>483858829
Fuck off community server shill. Go back to skail.
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>>483858530
I know but it takes way way longer to make a realistic looking one

>>483860779
That's right, plagiarism was and will always be a thing, and honestly there is a lot of research progress going on in mathematics, physics and other sciences with the help of AI
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>>483848782
14k would more or less line up with the recent ban wave so it seems correct though
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>Konata and Castaway empty on a Friday evening
T-thanks for fixing casual Valve...
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>>483858829
Bless us community server GOD. Stay on CastARYAN.tf
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>>483862178
i hope bots assrape your servers even harder matchmakingpajeet
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>>483861951
I keep answering "ok" until they have a melty by themselves
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>>483859530
So could the enemy enter your portal? Could one fire through it?
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>>483862528
>So could the enemy enter your portal?
Enemies can already use your tele and telefrag you if you're standing on the exit like a retard
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>>483862320
we are at the club
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>>483859530
Would be a pointless addition because he can already Wrangler jump.
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>>483862712
Only a spy. Expanding it to any backdooring enemy is a big difference.
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>>483862528
works exactly like the portal gun
unbiased entry on both ends
can shoot through it
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>hear about the casual bots getting banned
>try playing casual for the first time in a while
>get instakilled by a random crit as soon as I walk around a corner 3 times in a row, waiting 20 seconds to respawn each time
>remember why I actually stopped playing casual (it wasn't the bots)
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>>483860779
The problem right now is that people/companies are using AI to avoid paying artists which will lead to the death of art as a viable job. You might not care if you aren't an artist but it removes being able to do what you love as anything more than a hobby. It's the same thing with script writing and acting, where the recent writer strike was over Hollywood thinking they could get chatGPT to write their scripts or use an actor's likeness with AI long after they're dead. I wouldn't mind AI so much if either people weren't able to sell the machine's "creations" or it wasn't trained off artists that are still alive and still looking for work, as an alternative to paying that person.
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>>483862396
Community servers attract the trannies and furfags. You're not a tranny or a furry, right, anon?
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>>483862370
i hope regular players bless your servers even harder communityARYAN
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>>483860779
that's a lot of words to say "I am braindead cattle"
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>>483862809
>>483862815
Well think about it, you can SEE the other side of the portal unlike a teleporter, but it goes both ways
It'd be easier to see/spycheck any incoming Frenchies thanks to being able to see and shoot him through the portal before he comes in

theoretically as long as the engineer doesn't fuck up and replace his entrance portal at spawn later on, it's strong enough to justify contesting with the stock tele
they'd probably close when the engie dies, to make up for it
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>>483861951
average turkish subhuman
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>>483862953
you can't even switch teams and yo ass can't even use sprays no more LMAO
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>>483863507
>thinks I give a shit about sprays
>"NO! YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO TEAM SWITCH!"
>t.someone who rages every time he dies
90% of sprays in community servers are gay porn and furry shit. I think I'm fine.
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>>483862396
Community servers attract the ARYANS and CHVDS. You're surely a ARYAN and a CHVD, right, anon?
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>>483820872
Why are key prices on the market plummeting?
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>>483863507
>thinks I don't give a shit about sprays
>"YES! YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO TEAM SWITCH!"
>t. someone who goes on a killing spree every match
90% of sprays in community servers are SUPERSTRAIGHT porn and HYPERBORIA hypnosis. I think I'm bad.
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>steam introduces screen recording games in steam beta update
we're gonna see a lot more clips of that one medic aren't we?
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>>483823370
Being a chud ages you like nothing else.
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>>483842624
i want my fucking spellbook back
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>>483863875
A bunch of players are coming back and selling inventory to buy stuff I guess
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>>483864285
Watch the Trump and Biden debate.
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I'm gonna get into the bot hosting game. I can spin up a couple thousand bots and leave them running while I go out and go fishing on Lake Erie. I may not have been able to get sv_pure patched up to stop those degenerate fempyro mod users, but I can spin up some bots for fun.
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>>483861025
well, shit, our team decided to not play at all in the second half
the team will get back on the pitch in 6 months
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Classic TF2 Videos https://youtu.be/ifQ9waBdrso
https://youtu.be/yVAFNTHUm3E
https://youtu.be/cCnbL9gbliA
https://youtu.be/RPeHoeggSL0
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>>483853090
ahahaha 2 shitter weapons for shitter heavies. thanks for the free kill, chuddy
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>>483864559
You're not the real 404 but I'd believe he'd be petty enough to do this
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>>483864519
>how trump be talkin
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>>483862320
>>Konata and Castaway empty on a Friday evening
wait for EST GODS, then you can cry
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>>483835114
Zesty is like twice his height and Jerma isnt jacked anymore so Zesty probs has a significant weight advantage too despite being skinny himself.
I don't think Zesty would have much trouble with Jerma.
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>>483858074
the 20% damage bonus is there to shit on other heavies

the real reason to equip the BB is for 20% damage resistance below 50% hp without equipping the cancertasha

>sentryheavy
just setup in a good position, sentries are good
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>>483865220
ok but 10k subs jerma would wipe the floor with 10k subs zesty
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>>483864519
Why is the US so intent on having a borderline decaying corpse as their president
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I accidentally played mannpower for the first time ever recently. I had no idea what was going on, and the enemy team was obviously full of people who play the game all the time. I left after about 5 minutes.
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3 gas apes on cart
I’m dead
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>>483865645
Because the other decaying old man is retarded and a habitual liar
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>>483865645
Trump is 3 years younger than biden.
#FixAmerica
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That delfy nigga is mentally ill
how many clickbait videos can you make about one fucking happening
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>>483865010
trump: https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/a/ac/Soldier_item_maggot_domination01.wav

biden: https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/c/c2/Pyro_specialcompleted01.wav
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Kill pyros. Behead pyros with the eyelander. Roundhouse kick a pyro onto the control point. Remove random krits for pyros. Make pyros complete jump Captcha's before every match. Slamdunk a gibus pyro into the trash. Neck-snap pyros. Sage pyro threads. Don't reply to pyro posters. Crucify filthy pyro mains. Hang pyros. Defecate into a pyros sandvich. Launch pyros into a buzzsaw. Stiryfry pyros in a wok. Toss pyros in front of active sentry guns. Urinate into a pyros gasstank. Judo throw pyros into a woodchipper. Dox pyros. Twist pyros heads off. Report pyros to Valve. Never uber pyros. Karate chop pyros in half. Never heal pyros. Backstab pyros. Melee crit pyros. Curbstomb pregnant pyros. Trap pyros in quicksand. Dump pyros into the grinder on mannhattan. Liquify pyros into a vat of acid. Eat pyros. Dissect pyros. Exterminate pyros in MGE. Stomp on pyros skull with the mantreads. Steal a pyros health pack. Make pyros check'em. Cremate pyros with the degreaser. Lobotomize pyro mains. Mandatory trade bans for pyros. Crush pyros into a paste. Drown pyros in jarate. Vapourize pyros with a pomson. Spawn camp pyros. Kick a monkey pyro from your mvm lobby. Starve pyros. Shark pyros from hat drops. Feed pyros to alligators. Slice pyros open with the half-zatoichi.
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>>483862953
>no scramble
>everyone leaves after 1 match
>2-3 rounds
>no spectating (terrible because everyones closeting nowadays)
dude id honestly rather deal with trannies. i dont have the urge to say niggerfaggot every 5 seconds
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>>483865950
delfy is the OG mentally ill degenerate clickbaiter
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>>483866025
this but soldier
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/tf2g/ chuds, how does it feel knowing that this guy has a 10/10 tradwife and you don’t
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>>483866025
this but soundsmith
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>>483866360
has he said anything about fixtf2?
the old tyler would have made 10 videos about it by now
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I didn't need your help you know
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demoman is tsundere
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>>483866025
this but myself
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>>483866025
Fuck pyros. Get head from pyros. Fuck a pyro on the control point. Randomly crit pyros with your cock. Make pyros complete naked jumping jacks before every match. Slamdunk your cock into her. Snap off a pyro's bra. Follow pyro threads. ERP with pyro posters. Cum inside filthy pyro mains. Hang pyros in shibari bondage. Have the pyro make you a sandvich after. Launch sperm into pyros. Fry pyros' brains with sex. Toss a pyro's salad. Urinate into a pyro's mouth (she's into it). Judo throw pyros onto a bed. Blackmail pyros into sex with their dox. Twist pyros' nipples. Report your love for pyros to Valve. Always uber pyros. Split pyros' legs in half. Sexually heal pyros. Give pyros surprise buttsex. Critically hit pyros in the womb. Impregnate pyros. Get trapped into sex by demon pyros from the underworld. Dump sperm into a pyro cum dumpster. Submerge pyros into a vat of cum. Eat pyros' pussies. Dissect pyros' clothes off. Dominate pyros after defeating them in MGE. Slap pyro's face during sex with the Hot Hand. Give pyros health packs. Make pyros suck'em. Cream inside pyros' holes. Lobotomize pyros into sex slaves. Mandatory slut training for pyros. Give pyros your love paste. Drown pyros in mad milk. Whip pyros' asses with a disciplinary action. Camp in the same tent with pyros. Invite a pyro to your mvm lobby. Feed pyros your semen. Give pyros your hat drops in exchange for sex. Fuck pyros like an alligator. Slice pyros' clothes off with the half-zatoichi.
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this would never have happened in casual
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god i want to dress up as fempyro
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>>483866025
this but medic, I fucking hate medic.
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>>483865462
the real reason to use bb is NO REASON because it is DOOOGSHIIIIIT
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>>483865220
zesty seems like the type of guy that would start crying if you slapped him

jerma seems like the type of guy to pretend to be wholesome in public and dismember people in private
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>>483866894
this but femsoldier
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>>483823370
he's going to be 30 next month
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>having fun
>enemy starts stacking medics
>fun over
every time
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>>483866894
this but Shounic
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>>483864501
>bunch of players are coming back
Did I miss something?
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>>483867149
>Zesty's gonna be 30
>Already balding
>Still a virgin
I pray I don't end up like him
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it's a fun weapon i like it
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>>483866963
This happens in every casual game
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>>483867225
this but 1 sniper on the enemy team
(not huntsman chads they're cool)
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>>483867472
he chose to be that way, if he wasn't such a faggot and actually went outside for a change he would be less deranged or he can always find someone on dating apps...although i dont see many women interested in him
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>>483839457
>ban trading bots
Fuck off
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>>483867723
calm down Geel
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>>483866963
What am i looking at
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>>483865462
People are so afraid of giving heavy any kind of mobility
>Nerf the gru heavy shouldn't get to mid quickly
>he should stay at one point and become a dps sentry
Conversely they get a weapon that brings enemies upto heavy speed and now they bitch about muh not fun to play against
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>>483867856
I don't keep up with your eceleb drama. Trade bots are based, I deserve instant buying and selling. I will not wait for you to wipe the crusty shit off your ass in the bathroom for my trade to go through.
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>>483868058
>People are so afraid of giving heavy any kind of mobility
>>Nerf the gru heavy shouldn't get to mid quickly
>>he should stay at one point and become a dps sentry
>Conversely they get a weapon that brings enemies upto heavy speed and now they bitch about muh not fun to play against
Are you trying to make some kind of point here? Because I don't see it. Heavy is balanced by being slow, if you make him fast he's broken. Conversely, scout is balanced by being fast and if you have a weapon that can make him move at a snail's pace just by looking in his general direction, it pretty much invalidates his existence.
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>n-nooo ai is g-good actually
If you're too much of a pussy to just own up to being a jealous edgy faggot about art and have to jump through all these hoops to justify your slop then just kys
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zesty
is
live
https://youtu.be/zXNB31n9-XE?si=19eCk0l-O4RM4wu8
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>>483861025
do people actually like these?
I swear I've been posting on 4chan since 2014 and once a year I see posts about this and always thought it was retarded as fuck
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>>483868979
i don't even like sportsball but i think it's soulful and great
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>>483858349
I missed you
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>>483868713
being proud of some ai sludge you prompted is like being proud of the contents of your garbage can
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>>483869290
STUPID
FUCKING
PLAYERS
EFF
FOUR
RIGHT
NOW
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>>483869132
Is it "clan loyalty"? seeing your side play?
if that's the case I never subscribed to that type of behavior
is it the commentators? i guess but I just find them annoying

the only 4chan match that is really goated is the one game against reddit where half of 4chan's team baited and 4chan just picked up randos and still won
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I just named my shotgun “Kurt Cobain’s Last Microphone”
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>>483862303
Incorrect
https://x.com/Zesty_Jesus/status/1806412780183986614?t=PB8LjK2wFsqbV_WXJjIA3w&s=19
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>>483867969
the spirit of george floyd rising to ddos an uncletopia server
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>>483868697
read again nig im supporting you brass beast, even natascha is perfectly balanced, as if tryhard scouts/soldiers can't handle their get out of trouble movement slightly bothered, and their one trick narrow minded playstyle
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>>483867225
medic should have overheal immunity, there I #fixedtf2
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>>483862934
I do sympathize, but this has happened to many industries over the years. I think it's great to be able to use the skills you like to forward a way of life and sustain yourself off of it, but industry and capital are fueled by the value one has from their skills and labor to provide. Coal mines are still used here and there but ultimately most of the people in mining professions have been told to go learn to code or to get with the times of industry if they want to make it.
Simultaniously, there is the other side of the coin to consider; if I have a vision but no skills to make that a reality, a tool will suffice and help me achieve these visions. I don't know how to alter a picture with pens and paint, so photoshop will help me and make it look good. Maybe it's something I can do but the quality of the output or the speed it takes me to make it will be improved eith a tool. So I use a calculator to compute an irrational division operation for a math problem instead of doing it by hand, I ask my car's cruise control to maintain my speed for me. To someone who doesn't have the money to hire my own private visual artist, AI art seems like a golden ticket to turn my ideas and concepts into actual tangible pieces of art like scripts into movies or animations and I don't need anyone's help or to pay anyone money I probably don't even have to do it. Is it taking the job of another artist if I never had the money to pay them for the job in the first place?
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>>483866360
Dont you get in trouble for taking pictures inside of gyms like this? Especially "judgemrnt free" ones where they cater to clientele who are insecure?
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>people complaining about the Natascha when it’s bugged and it’s upside doesn’t even work if you know how to exploit the glitch (the glitch that valve refuses to fix)
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>>483866963
>full server
>just 1 sniper trying to stop the cap
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>>483870636
>even natascha is perfectly balanced
no it's not retard, play a real class

>and their one trick narrow minded playstyle
imagine accusing people of "one trick narrow minded playstyle" while playing heavy
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>>483871269
the sniper ddosed the entire server.
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>>483868713
Can you repeat your statement without all the buzzwords and insults thrown in? I can't see your point.
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>>483868205
trading bots killed trading
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>>483867053
>automatically wins every revved up heavy duel against you
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>>483868713
>>483869331
AI won and you lost seething artfags, get a job
OH WAIT YOU CANT AHAHAHAHA
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>>483871104
Ive been told that was patched ages ago
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>>483871494
Steam trading killed trading maps/servers
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>>483868697
>if you make him fast hes broken
no hes not and it isnt 2014 anymore. heavy at mid is a fucking joke even with tomislav
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>>483871636
your "art" will never be real art just like you will never be a real woman
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>>483871636
>deadlock won and you lost seething tf2fags, play a real game
>OH WAIT YOU CANT AHAHAHAHA
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>>483871636
They could have always had a job, doing something else. Artists now live as artists did 700 years ago. Either you were drawing for kings or you were on the streets begging someone to give you scraps of food or money for rent for drawings.
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>>483871614
if a heavy walks into you or tries to peek you when you are revved up and looking in his general direction then hes a retard
to me, bb heavies are free kills because i start shooting them when theyre busy shooting someone else, and so they automatically lose because i shot first and thats how heavy v heavy works
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>>483871705
The strafe glitch WAS patched
for like a day
and then it was almost immediately re-introduced because everyone bitched about it
So the Natascha you have today is a DOWNGRADE from stock. Revs up slower, does less damage, and it’s upside doesn’t even work
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>>483871104
>spam A and D
>can't strafe and dodge properly now
wow what a great way to negate it
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>>483871903
Do you really want to live how we did 700 years ago? Because useless pieces of shit like you with no talent or skills were begging on the street and dying of hunger.
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>>483871760
Who the fuck cares about this pedantic "real art" debate ?
Like do you really think someone that isn't an artist gives a fuck about this shit lol
And how is this related to tf2 to begin with ? Ai memes are fine, it's not like they are stealing someone's else job you dumbwit, no one said that AI art was art in this thread to begin with, it was just zesty memes
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>>483871964
>bb heavies are free kills because i start shooting them when theyre busy shooting someone else
not unique to the bb, thats just heavy in general
>so they automatically lose because i shot first and thats how heavy v heavy works
the bb user gets like a full second of leniency because they have better health and better damage

you shouldve brought up the actual advantage of jump revving a bb heavy, retard
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"I don't like weapons that limit mobility, but the class that builds hitscan aimbots to stop mobility is okay"
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>>483872249
>Who the fuck cares about this pedantic "real woman" debate ?
ywnbaw lol
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>We are now talking about botted art instead of botted casual
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>singly handled the prosperous save of TF2
>Doesn't elaborate further
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Valve hires you for one month to "Fix TF2". Will you be able to fix it with your current skill level before the month ends?
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>>483872545
Yes.
>Dig up quickplay code
>Replace casual with quickplay
I could #FixTF2 in an afternoon.
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>>483872487
that's actually a decent comparison to make.
i'd much rather have players hacking than bots doing it, and i'd much rather have humans creating art than bots doing it
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>>483872269
>not unique to bb
id say it is because the chance of a bb heavy being overwhelmed is 102%. maybe its a byproduct of it being a shit weapon that no actually good heavy main uses, maybe its the fact you cant move so you cant back out so you take more damage so you panic
>jump revving a bb heavy
you can jump rev any heavy and win
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>>483872249
>Like do you really think someone that isn't an artist gives a fuck about this shit lol
Everyone who doesn't have some sort of creative talent is an NPC, literal cattle that only exists to serve the great creators of our time, like me. Know your place, cattle.
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>>483872545
I make all snipers into bows except for the classic which remains unchanged and is now stock
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>>483872545
No because I have 0 coding skills
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>>483872647
But the bots do it better and without all the filthy narcissism and leftism that human artists inherently have, therefore they're better
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>>483872476
Anon, the trannies ARE usually the artists kek, especially the twitter ones, what the fuck are you smoking
Like half of twitter artists have a they/them/xisters profile bio
Old school hand-drawn artist don't give a single flying fuck about this E-attention whores debate
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>>483872773
I thought coding was taught in schools these days.
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who won doe
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>>483872010
And they were right to bitch about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PULBqSCw9vk
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>>483872843
>n-no you're the tranny because I say so!
cope
you will never be a real artist
you will never be a real woman
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>>483872802
lol
oh wait you're serious
lmao
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>>483872545
It'd take a lot of work, since I don't have any experience with Source, but I could probably restore quickplay within the month with dedicated effort, and restore F2P rights along the way.
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>>483872908
Weezy
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>>483872156
I am saying artists today are living like artists of yesteryear already, before AI. If you weren't some head designer for a major corporation you are a contracted artist doing whatever slop your superior asks you to draw and you're lucky if you can find any room to put in some of your own creative vision that rises above the gloomy clouds of corporate homogany, or you're stuck doing furfag commisions on twitter.
Artists will still be needed, but the world doesn't need them as much now.
Again, I sympathize, but true buisness acumine needs inginuity and innovation to understand what people want and are willing to pay for. If you truly want someone to value your art enough to pay for it then that's great, go find them, becuase the people who don't want to no longer have to be forced to pay for it anyway for a project.
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>>483872714
>The talent in question
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>>483872908
/snowg/
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>>483873090
>AItranny sees art purely through a "how much money can you make out of it" lens
no surprise there, you don't have a single creative bone in your body
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>>483872249
It's brainrot. If I'ma homophobe I won't just he happy with not being in a gay relationship myself, I'd need to demand society condemn same sex marriages to make the world appropriate for me. Some people just can't handle themselves from geting enraged when the opprotunity so easily arises in them. To be fair, 4chan and the internet have done some damage to bring us here.
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>>483873247
Either that or he's brown
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>>483872908
JARTYGODS WON
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I hate the egos of artist guys, most of them make shit and still think their slop is good, just look at the tf2 workshop, it's like this everywhere.
Sometimes it's even awkward to have an artist friend who isn't really skilled, he shows you a shitty drawing and you act like "oh yeah man this is cool", like you are talking to a 5 yo kid who just drawn a distorted dino.
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>>483873112
this is the ugliest piece of art you could find?
sovl
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>>483873362
>straight up admits to being a tranny faggot cock addict
no surprise there, AItrannies really living up to their name
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ai could have never made team fortress 2 nor any of the other games/books/movies/shows/albums/etc. that you love
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>>483873247
You fancy yourself as an artist yet you confine yourself to such one dimensional definitions of creativity as this? Are you the artist of pic?
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>>483873723
It's usually the type of fanart shit you find in twitter with a comment like "so proud of this new drawing I've just made" lmao
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>>483873439
art and creative work in general requires a certain level of narcissism to stay sane
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>>483873823
>that you love
bold of you to assume AItrannies even care about this game and don't just play it so they can dress up their pyro in a pink wig and ERP in chat
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>>483873927
That dragon is ruining that chicken.
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Heavy has seen the face of god...... and it was weeping......
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>>483873823
No one fucking said that in this thread lol, it all began with the Indian Zesty meme apparently
Can someone post the black zesty, I didn't save it, the one with the afro
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if AI art can generate one good fempyro then I'lll gladly bend the neck to our bot overlords
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>>483874064
you know nothing about dragon cooking
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>>483873439
>admitting to being a shitty friend who can't give his buddies constructive advice
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>>483874117
CRY SOME MORE
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>>483874117
If I was god I would also be crying if I saw a heavy , I wanted to see the scout.
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>>483873823
Do you think people who use AI type a single sentance prompt and expect the entire project be output? I think I see why you struggle eith understanding how useful AI is step by step and assume it's replacing everything.
>>483872959
Good thing I don't have to be to get the art made that I want
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>>483872908
Me
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>>483873823
Maybe not back in the day but nowadays it could've, ChatGPT 4.o could easily have made all of TF2's writing, artists, both of drawing kind and writing kind are now worthless
Stop catering to those narcissistic scum
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>>483874320
ok so fix the bot crisis and make tf3 now then
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>>483874229
>Do you think people who use AI type a single sentance prompt and expect the entire project be output?
uhh yeah? how many times have I seen AItrannies say shit like "soon you will be able to make entire games just by describing them to AI isn't that so heckin epic wholesome chungus 100"?

>Good thing I don't have to be to get the art made that I want
it's not real art, just generic copies of what other actual artists made
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>>483874320
>AIpajeets really think this
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>>483872545
I know some C/C++, but it'd probably take a week just to get a general sense of tinkering with the codebase. Assuming outside resources are allowed I could probably look at Team Comtress 2 for help.
First priority would be cutting a lot of the bullshit. Matchmaking, etc. Assuming I also have access to old TF2 builds I'd just take an old pre-MyM menu source and go from there.
With the time remaining, I'd implement all the balance changes in FishStickOnAStick's balance mod (http://74.91.126.159/). Lots of these are just tweaks to variables so it wouldn't be hard to get a lot of them out quick.

If I still have time I'd hunt down a lot of longstanding bugs and attempt to fix them, again using Team Comtress as assistance.
If I am also the godly benevolent of Valve and not just some lackey during this I would also pay the artists/writers to finish the final TF2 comic.
I have some more ideas as well but if they could be done in a month I'm not sure.
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>>483874320
>ChatGPT 4.o could easily have made all of TF2's writing, artists, both of drawing kind and writing kind are now worthless
Holy incomprehensible ESL babble! It's starting to smell like curry in here.
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>>483874320
Nta but Jesus Christ your retarded. GPT4 would never have been able to write TF2 even if it had a million years to do so.
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>>483873941
I certainly don't think so, being delusional can absolutely make you go crazy and refuse the copium, just check out the workslops people and how they keep fighting back the /evil demon critics/
Narcissism is only alright if you are actually TALENTED, and produce some good shit, like Salvatore Dali or Mozart
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>>483874517
>spoiler
Kill yourself
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>>483874320
wow so true! time to invest 500000 trillion dollars into open ai again
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>>483874467
>>483874320
case in point lmao
AItroons are literal braindead retards who have absolutely no idea what it takes to make a game like TF2 because they've never created anything in their lives, they are natural born cattle who only exist to be slaves and consume
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>/tf2g/ - Artificial Intelligence General
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lmao artfaggot have to resort to racism name calling to fight against AI. You will have no money and bee on the streets, narcisist bastard
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>>483874208
He isn't the type of friend who enjoy criticism, any type of it, trust me, there is some people like this who just can't take any form of criticism, heavily self-centered.
And I honestly don't care, if he likes his own stuff let it be, as long as he isn't shoving it to my face every time lol.
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>>483872727
the huntsman is CANCER to fight, its just that regular sniper is so much more cancerous that it outweighs the minuses the bow brings to the table
simply put, the huntsman lets sniper dish out 360 DAMAGE at close-mid range after only 2 seconds of charging (thats assuming he wants to fully draw the bow). if anyone spent as much time perfecting the huntsman as the average sniper spends on perfecting their aim with the sniper rifle, it would be an absolute NIGHTMARE to fight against. he peeks you? one of the fastest projectiles in the game comes at you, and you die. you peek him? die. he doesnt see you and just randomly spams? also die
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>>483874595
i never said it was a good thing, you have to protect your own ego somehow but the vast majority of artists (and the emporium) think theyre gods because of it
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You can actually upgrade your buildings with this hammer
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>>483874894
>there is some people like this who just can't take any form of criticism, heavily self-centered.
That's human artists for you. And some people still try to defend them from the superior AI art and prompt engineers
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>>483874882
>bee on the streets
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>>483874616
Compression blast jump makes Pyro 10x more fun, fuck you
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>>483874882
why the fuck dont you use ai to fix your dogshit spelling you illiterate monkey
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>>483874945
>at close-mid range
>projectile
at long last, he fits into tf2's gameplay
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>>483875045
you will surprise how almost all the TF2 players renamed this weapon...
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konata status?
castaway status?
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>>483875127
ironically, you can find the same type of manners with prompt engineers kek, I've seen plenty of arrogants guys saying shit like "huh we are actually artist, our work is superior" or whatever crap
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>>483874797
i've realized something about aitards
they literally have no imagination
theyre so impressed with ai because it does the imagining for them
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>>483875332
>konata status?
my wife
>castaway status?
casted away
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>>483875332
empty
empty
>anon status?
killing myself
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>>483875257
hitscangods own this game
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>>483874467
>uhh yeah?
Then your understsnding is a little behind. I can be writing a book but need illustrations for it. Bam, ai gen pictures to accompany my writing. Perhaps I need a name for a character that I've already written, so I feed some text data and get its assitsnce with coming up with something phonetically pleasing and fitting.
>inb4 "you cant even come up with a name? No creativity just like I said!"
Yet I wrote an entire book and just asked to help with a name.
>just generic copies of what other actual artists made
How do you define pic related? If it's anything but "generic copies of what actual artists made" I'm going to ask why.
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>>483875332
casualchads won
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>>483875375
you dont get it, typing "big boobs, trending on art station, anime, huge boobs" takes so much thought and hard work
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>>483875332
there must be 24 anons waiting for someone else to join the server first.. surely there has to be...
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>>483834123
AIDS is a blood-borne disease that doesn’t spread unless there is literal exchange of bodily fluids.
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>>483875671
so make it shoot syringes, it will inject the AIDS onto enemy on hit
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>>483875171
Artists bee'ing themselves as always. But hey, it's creative, right? Bet you can't have that kind of creativity with an AI!
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>>483875447
it took you this long to figure out?
the whole reason retards think AI is this revolutionary paradigm shift is because it gives them a small taste of what it's like to have a creative vision and bring it to life using your own two hands. it's a completely new experience for them, meanwhile it's a complete nothingburger if you have any real skills and can already create on your own

>>483875613
this post is too long, ask chatgpt to summarize before posting next time
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>>483875447
Anon, this is why online artists are mostly hated in real life, you guys are insufferable attention whores
I do rather have a good beer with a woodsman, or a traditional architect than a modern wacom-mie
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>>483851272
But for all we know, he’d be designing some cyber weapon that could wreak devastation upon the world as a whole.
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>>483874320
...bro you are ignorant of how "AI" works. They quite literally forked all the data on the internet, and then allow you to request things from that database in English, that's it. It doesn't create anything, it's just fetching data they stole from other people in a more convoluted fashion. Ask it something and it will just regurgitate Wikipedia summaries at you. It can't create anything unique or new, it would have never been able to make Tf2.
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can you make your model and texture more higher pls
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scout femboy hot futanari gay anal bleeding.
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>>483875662
That's only what amateur level prompters do, skilled prompt engineers make far more descriptive prompts
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>>483875730
That Demoman is a
Nega
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>>483875812
>tldr
Sounds like you ran out of creative juices. I accept your concession
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>>483876210
who are you talking to
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>>483875812
i've only made the connection after my uncreative but successful brother got all hyped with some prompts like "penguin at a marathon" and shit

>>483875885
you didnt deny it, pajeet
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I'm a woodcarver, and I honestly really hate how clusterfucky are online artists, it's like most of them live in a bubble or something, and are completely disconnected from real life art, the time it takes and whatever...
Why would you care about AI crap, just come back to traditional medias and ditch your connected pencil
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>>483850812
That hacker was seriously one ballsy motherfucker. I hope he gets a job in cybersecurity once he is out. However, since he didn't go to jail but rather is stuck in a hospital "Indefinitely" who knows when that will happen. I hope they don't ruin him in there.
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you could be playing on konata right now but instead you're arguing over ai
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>>483875885
artists might be attention whores but they have talent
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>>483875332
sorry bro, Im doing the new potato MVM event
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>>483876152
It doesn't regurgitate, it acts based on what it learned, which is what data you talked about served for, for it to learn. No different than an artist learning by looking at others' drawings, or how writers learn by reading.
Why do you think the field is called machine LEARNING?
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>>483876248
you didnt just fucking unironically reply to a post that said
>big boobs, trending on art station, anime, huge boobs
show me your proudest prompt
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>when your pocket medic sees you
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I like how this potato MvM event has players with actual braincells
We managed to complete 2 expert missions yesterday
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>>483876376
I'm the woodcarver dude, you guys always act like you are the center of everything lol, I didn't answer you because you are just seething hard, it will eventually pass someday..
And I'm from Norway
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>>483876651
its a glorified markov chain that uses as much electricity as an entire city because its so unoptimized
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>>483876745
is it actually good this time
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>>483876743
ew, yucky.
>airblasts
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>>483853384
Then what about FSoaS?
>>483872010
The strafe glitch never works when I try it.
>>483872545
I’d probably need more than a month to come up with a finished product, but this may be enough time to draft a proof of concept.
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>>483876743
i have a NEED
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>>483876914
You can't airblast your teammates you retard
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>>483876914
of course a GAYro main would have posted that
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>>483876743
I was expecting a truck to just ram into her after she started running in the road.
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>>483876569
This is the thing you guys still don't understand, most of these e-artists think they are unique and talented, while it's not really the case in the end
A good chunk of online art is just fanart, a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy.. I will stop the fight club reference here
And I'm not saying that there isn't talented digital artists, but sadly there is a lot of arrogant mediocre people
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>>483876804
why are you larping as a norwegian woodcarver, hardik
>>483876569
you dont need talent to be an artist, i will assert again the bare minimum to getting started is an ego
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>>483876804
>And I'm from Norway

real
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>>483877292
I would gladly share my etsy if this place wasn't filled with nutcases kek
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>weezy actually saved/fixed TF2
and as always retarded fat incels on 4chan are proven wrong
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>>483875257
no other projectile deals 360 damage thoughbeit.
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thoughts on ai voices?
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>>483877605
I prefer my wife ivona voice thank you very much
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>>483877460
You guys are acting like TF2 isn't popular in scandinavian countries
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>>483876651
>They stole all the free data online and put it a database.
>They then use machine learning techniques to corelate English words to formations of that data.
>They wrap that in a program with some interface.
>Lastly, you tell it something, it fetches some data in a formation that has a high match and gives it to you.
That's why you can ask it math questions and it will "hallucinate". This is a buzzword term to mask how the software actually works. It is merely programmed to regurgitate text at you that machine learning has associated it with your prompts. That's why it may, with 100% "confidence", tell you that 4+4 is 16, or some other glaring math mistake. It's because it did not "think" about its answer nor "solve" anything, it just looked up "4+4" text pattern in its database. Go ahead and ask it something that Google cannot already answer, it will shit itself.

It is not "learning". It is not "alive". It is not a "person", it is just a program, like Tf2 is also a program. Not new tech btw either. Machine learning is old news and has just been re-pitched due to the shit economy and them being desperate for money right now. We have already been using "AI" for a while now, it was rebranded. You are a complete drone.
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>>483874320
You are both a retard and a tranny.
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>>483872957
HOW TO #FIXNATASCHA
+25% spin up speed
+50 faster movement speed while spun up (55.5% movement speed, or 166 hu/s)
-20% damage penalty
now you may be thinking that this fucks with the tomislav as its currently the only offensive heavy minigun. and i also have a solution: REMOVE TOMISLAV because its REALLY BORING and REALLY UGLY (what an unholy abomination of a weapon, youd have no idea its a tommy gun at first glance)
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https://old.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1dqr3ew/a_story_on_how_an_impersonator_made_a_bot_hoster/

most intelligent bot hoster
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>>483877605
dystopian and used almost exclusively for le reddit heckin XD funne troonshit
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>>483872545
My idea was to manually ban cheaters, so. I don't know what else I'd have in mind besides revert quickplay and add a few quality weapons / maps to revitalize the game
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>>483865950
If you think Delfy videos are harmful clickbait you haven't seen shit. At least they're short and actually show you what you clicked for
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>>483876616
I miss doing those. They were fun.
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New Rumpus just dropped. It's official, stock is goofy.
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Who is worse
Delfy or Zealot
the choice is yours
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>>483876864
Arent sophisticated ones able to extrapolate and make new conclusions based on previously seen causes and effects?
>>483877154
I know so much digitally drawn and pen and paper art made in online spheres are worth artistic merit for sure, but how crestive can you call yourself if your entire way of life is doing anime character drawings? We gonna pretend Vegeta fucking Frieza on a hyperbolic time mattress in someone's comission has more creative integrity than AI art? They're both regurgitations.
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>>483872545
A good silent solution: Have a system that tracks newly generated F2P steam accounts movement in game
A system that will be obviously a bit invasive, but has to remain hidden in order to work in the long term
Have an AI to check for specific unusuals input patterns (not checking loadouts, instantly joining a server, moving like a darn robot) and make graphs for each values, to compare them with regular non-AI values
And let the bans flows
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>>483879316
>We gonna pretend Vegeta fucking Frieza on a hyperbolic time mattress in someone's comission has more creative integrity than AI art?
It unironically does.
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>>483878570
>OH MY HECKING CHUNGUS PEOPLE NO LONGER NEED TO PAY A GORRILLION DOLLARS FOR LE OVEREXPENSIVE VA WHO THINKS THEIR VOICE IS WORTH GOLD THIS IS SO DYSTOPIAN
Anti-AI luddites itt are so annoying to see
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>>483879715
You are a retard and a nigger
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>>483877945
>design program to take in data and draw patterns to learn, mych like humans
>most of that input is from humans, flawed beings
I'm not suprised when the machine gets things wrong. It's the blind leading the blind. It's especially destined to fail when younare say asking it to explain something that doesn't exist, most of these programs are meant to decline or deny you information in very specific curcumstances, it's like a "forst rule of improv" thing, so if it can't objectively research a truth to your query it will then do the markov bit of piecing facts together in a seemingly comprehensible way, its akin to a human throwing shit at a wall and seeing if it sticks. This is why shit like a lawyer letting an AI do its court document write ups fail if it can't find the parameters the inputting lawyer specifically asks for, it starts making up federal cases to cite.
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>>483879384
I'm adding that, so far, all bots seems to do the same process to join a server, i.e with a linux steam cmd gimmick
They never check their settings, their loadouts...

Having a silent input analyzer is honestly the best solution Valve can come up with, since they will most likely not kill Linux compatibility due to the Steam Deck
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>>483879914
>>483876651
I like how AItrannies basically admit that they're complete retards that barely qualify as human by saying that a computer algorithm for predictive text is just as intelligent as them
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>>483877605
nightmare
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>>483879506
Can you articulate why taking characters someone else made and that are popular to draw them in a unlikely scensrio for money has more integrity without the normative cyclical logic of "well... cause a human drew it, therefor it has intention, therefor we must respect its artistic merit, therefor only humans and not AI can create art"
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>>483879852
>Racist Artist
>Probably a Xhe/Zhem/BLM on Twitter

???
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Even in it's garbage state, babyface blaster is still my favourite scout primary
Swapping off it after just 2 minutes of gameplay makes normal scout speed feel like heavy
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>>483879715
If you can't see what's dystopian about the fact that you can exactly replicate literally anyone's voice and make it say anything you are actually mentally challenged.
>B-BUT IT COSTS T-T-TOO MUCH OF MY LE HECKING JEW GOLD TO GET REAL ACTORS TO DO MY LE EPIC FUNNY REDDIT STORIES NUMBER 257
kill yourself.
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my friend said the bots were gone. is that true?
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>>483880095
A tool is only as useful as the one using it. If that is as high a function you can imagine from AI, perhaps you lack creativity.
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>>483879715
>everyone who hates my favorite trash generator is a luddite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>483880468
No, you should just play on community servers or use the community quickplay to join games without bots.
https://teamwork.tf/community/quickplay
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>>483880295
>AI Tranny retard
>Probably a She/They "estrogen beam :333" renamed medigun uncletopia playing child groomer on discord.
???
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>>483880373
How do you play it without losing the speed frequently from damage or needing to double jump?
>>483880468
Valve is currently kicking cheate
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>>483880619
>A tool is only as useful as the one using it.
exactly, that's why AI is useless, it has no use to anyone except retards
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good morning beautiful sirs
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>>483880650
I'm sorry, but the socialist conversion tactic of brow beating people to agree with you is not as strong as it was a few years ago. People are waking up
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>>483880781
I don't like AI shit, but I hate you faggots coomers equally don't worry about it, you are both symmetrically homosexuals
At least you show your true self in 4chan, instead of acting like a fucking hypocrite on twitter, you racist fags
I'm sure you come from the emporium too, Zesty was right about you
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Thinking of getting a wrench specifically for MvM, which one should I get? Any good parts besides robot spies killed?
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Where did this ai autism start wtf how does that have anything to do with tf2
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>>483881563
Eureka Effect.
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>>483881642
>>483834276
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>>483881563
rust botkiller
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Is Fatmagic a cheater or not?
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>>483881642
It's all part of Zesty big plan to show how fucked up the emporium really is
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>>483881865
Doesn't matter
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>>483880829
Losing speed from damage is inevitable, there's nothing I can do to stop that. But flying guillotine makes and/or wrap assassin makes speed upkeep+gain incredibly easy to do. Double-jumping is just something you learn not to do, and just being able to zoom around people meatshotting them while they struggle to track you is so satisfying.
The one thing that roadblocks me hard is soldier splash, because I can't afford to double jump and tank my speed
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>>483820872
>Frag With /tf2g/
What is "Frag"?
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>>483882319
baby don't hurt me
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>>483881865
I think he may have played around with cheat software in the past bit he's not an avid cheater.
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>>483864816
>you're not the real 404
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you ever think about how some weapons are inherently shit or annoying and yet cant be reworked into anything good, and so they shouldnt have been added in the first place?
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>>483883352
The only thing that fits your criteria is the red tape recorder and I think I have only seen someone use that 3 times.
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>>483883587
>vaccinator
annoying, overpowered yet somehow worse than stock. nerf it and itll go back to being unusable like it was at first, rework it now its not the vaccinator anymore
>mannmelter
only added because they needed to add a million grordbort weapons for some reason. cant even be reworked into anything good because the 3 other flare guns already fill out any other possible role
>sun on a stick
shouldnt exist. scout has no way of setting people on fire. rework it into setting people on fire, now its just the boston basher. lean towards that fire damage resistance stat, now its niche and still useless because scout has mad milk and candy cane
>diamondback
adds nothing to spys gameplay, only makes him slightly more unpleasant to fight. any possible rework for it is the same "get x reward for playing spy". honestly spy never needed such an item
i could go on theres still a lot more
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>>483883587
The recorder could be reworked. How about this, it has a faster time to kill, but if it gets knocked off it doesn't net any damage however it does cause all of the upgrade animations to be reversed which if undone then have to be replayed. It sacrifices consistency in damage dealing for a better chance at catching the engineer off guard.
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>>483877605
Sentance mixing has more soul, but its fine for like youtube videos
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What does Zesty think of all these AI pictures lel
How do you make them ? I want to try hyperrealistic femscout, can any ainon make me one
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>>483884417
>vaccinator
probably the biggest nightmare for balancing in the game
>mannmelter
let it suck up any projectile instead of just fire
>sun on a stick
let it shoot a fireball
>diamondback
give it mini-crits for 5 sec on kill instead
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etvxqU4QTu0
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>>483882067
Thanks for the advice, Id like to try this
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>>483885756
Why dont we ask them?
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The vaccinator is cool because I can save my heavy from snipers whenever I want.
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Now that Valve's taking action against the cheaters and bots, should I spend money on the game again or wait to see if they keep doing it?
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>>483886497
spend at least $1k to show support
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>3 engies defending just waiting like bots for the enemy medic to build uber and wipe their nests
why are they like this?
this is the 4th time it has happened to them
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>bots banned
>keys drop in price
hmm
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>>483885771
>manmelter idea
the manmelters extinguish is continous. you just made a more cancerous short circuit. but lets say it now extinguishes like the flamethrower, 1 burst every 0.7 seconds. now you just made a worse... flamethrower. seriously why not just reflect that rocket. now its only useful for hard-to-land projectiles like huntsman arrows, but good luck catching those
>sun on a stick
shoot a fireball that deals DOT? you just reinvented the wrap assassin. this is what im talking about, any potential rework has too much overlap
>diamondback
still fundamentally boring as fuck, now pretty useless too. as i said, this weapon at its core is boring, stupid and adds nothing to the game or to spys gameplay, its a redundant addition that only exists because of that deus ex with... mixed reviews
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>>483886846
fresh installs who watched 3 videos of oonkle dank and think they can pull of an "le epic nest protection" while all they do is take all the metal from map and not even trying to play, idling near their sentries and thinking the rest of team will do everything for them
seen this so many times im not even bothering to help them
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Part II of the #SaveTF2 movement:
Spend $500 minimum on the community market to show Valve support for removing the bots.
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>when your pocket medic sees you
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heres some more fundamentally fucked weapons
>backscatter
too situational, objective downgrade. buff it slightly and its still worse stock, buff it significantly and it becomes annoying as fuck. i think this weapon looks and sounds too cool to have been such a shitty weapon with archaic stats that look like they came from 2009
>liberty launcher
love how this weapon looks, but id be lying if i said this thing had any purpose, or role, or even an identity. its a random mishmash of stats that amount to nothing. if it wasnt shit, then itd be a slightly different stock, offering nothing interesting to soldiers gameplay. some have suggested turning it into a combo weapon, like how the degreaser is for pyro, so that it could mesh well with the reserve shooter. i do like that idea but part of me feels like its too niche
>hot hand
the powerjack already exists. need i say more?
>the equalizer
what shouldve happened: equalizer gets rebranded to the escape plan, the equalizer gets erased. this weapon is redundant because soldier has no good way of closing the gap with his slow movement speed. that is, unless you rocket jump, in which case you just use the market gardener, a more fun, skillful and effective weapon. basically, the market gardener is the superior equalizer
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>medic holding krtitz for a good moment
>holding for like 5min
>get killed 1s after popping it
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>>483886497
After the ban wave I unironically went back to my normal spending habits
Opened 2 crates just today
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WAIT STAR_ IS STREAMING TF2
NIGGAS GET IN
https://www.twitch.tv/ster
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>>483877520
still a schizophrenic druggie
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>>483887071
>cheaters with inventories worth thousands because they were so cocksure that valve would never ban them are now panic selling
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>>483888804
Those beta models were pretty ugly, glad they changed them like 2 months before the game launched
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With all the people returning to tf2, do you think they'll be a window of opportunity to get cheap items again? What with the returning players seeing the new prices and undercutting each other and all.
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>>483889126
Didn't this cry his eyes out in seethe about 10 year olds asking him to play tf2 again and Dane off handedly mentioning something he said in tf2 days
Why is he back on the game, clout chasing due to the fixtf2 thing?
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>>483887071
>Idle farms disrupted, trade bots compensate for less metal flow by auto regulating prices down to sell to players.
Now imagine if the trade bots got banned.
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>>483889631
SHUT UP RETARD
HE IS PLAYING AS A BOT AND DOING THE #KILLTF2
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>>483889631
He let himself get seduced by the bilz bucks and promotion from early overwatch, but they stopped featuring him as a favourite child shortly after ana was released. He floundered and ultimately lost his visibility as a streamer and seems to be mind broken about what could have been.
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>>483889785
boring and gay, so about what I'd expect of ster
outside of edited videos and doing shit with jerma this nigga really isnt entertaining
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>>483890327
Nigga you are missing out
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you nigs are gonna shit and cry when there's no summer update
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8 gamers fragging on castaway
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>>483890542
>no summer update
since 7 years ago
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>>483890542
i wouldnt open any cases anyways, nor would I play on new maps more than once.
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>sniper gets upset at enemy team turtling after instagibbing anyone who dares to show their face and leave their shell
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>>483890542
oh nooo
what will I do now that we won't have any new cases or broken maps ;((((
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>>483890542
I would jump in joy if we got no summer update
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>>483842896
>the dog: valve corporation
>the baseball: a baseball that has "steam infinite money glitch" and "treadmill work" simultaneously etched onto it
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>>483889412
arent all the uber textures for the beta models? or is it specifically only for engineer, since hes the only one that looks fucked up.
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the bots are literally gone and people here are arguing about AI. proof that no one in this general actually plays the game.
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>>483892031
I'm comfy watching the star_ stream bb :)
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>>483892031
dropped a trvthnvke about the redundancy of certain tf2 weapons... no discussion started...
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Watch him beg valve to get it back LMAO.
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>>483892031
I'm fucking playing the game why would I be here talking about it instead
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>>483892546
dude said he doesn't play tf2 anymore and cashed out, I doubt he cares
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>>483892546
Why did they implement a global alert for destroying a saxxy?
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>>483893032
To laugh at retards.
>>483892845
If he didn't care he wouldn't have bothered in the first place.
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>>483834918
the inflated player count was always primarily from trade bots/idle bots
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>>483892845
there's photos of him playing on r/tf2 (i know because i browse it daily)

>>483892546
let me know when this happens bro
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>teammate gives up after single round loss and just sits in spawn flaming the rest of the team for every round going forward
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>>483893924
sorry, i'll play an extra minute next time
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>>483854743
It took me 500 hours of playing to get good as scout
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>>483887892
Why would one medic go after one person specifically unless it’s for a contract or achievement? Under most cases, if I’m not in my sniping spot shooting people with my crossbow or sawing through people’s bones, I’d probably try to heal whomever is there and/or go for Uber pushes with whomever is there instead of finding specific people to go after. It would only be detrimental to myself and the team if I only went after one person.
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Castaway.tf is a pedophile server
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>>483896626
only when you are on
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ster is streaming TF2 btw
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>>483886497
I wouldnt, its too soon to see this impact the long run.
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>>483897283
who cares about ster. blessed viva is live
https://www.twitch.tv/blessedviva
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>>483898140
this general as a whole cares about ster, all the cool anons are in his stream
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>>483826103
>Either you drug out like a hero (LazyPurple)
What the fuck? What really happened?
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bagboy is live bagging groceries
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>>483898140
shut up bag boy real men are playing tf2
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>>483893032
same reason destroying a golden pan has one
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>>483897283
>>483898140
ster > shallow god > bagboy
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>>483881563
blood botkiller
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>>483867371
You missed the bot ban wave
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>>483899735
How long do you think the bots will be gone for this time?
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>>483899984
Reddit said the bot host leader got banned, the hosters in the discord are paranoid about outsiders spying on them and valve is banning new bot accounts
Its literally over bro
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Why would you get rid of a saxxy? What a retard!
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>>483832026
-Wash with cleanser at night, with just warm water in the morning
-At night apply serum, (spray) toner and moisturizer, in the morning (toner,) moisturizer and sunscreen
-If you can get ahold of good retinol, use that in place of serum but be aware that if you use it improperly or do not use sunscreen it will make your skin worse
When I say "good retinol" I mean prescription only products, however good quality over-the-counter ones are better than nothing. Retinol is probably the only thing that can reduce or remove spots, mottling or red marks. Careful exposure to sunlight is also beneficial; ensure that you're wearing sunscreen but aim to get at least 30 minutes of direct sun a day. Drinking more water and reducing consumption of gluten, dairy and/or (refined) sugar will also benefit you enormously.

You don't have to do everything I listed, even just a little will help. Good luck
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>>483898140
Who cares about bagboy
Shallow God won.
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>>483900780
make more webms shallow GOD
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*cums inside my trans gf swallow rod causing her to miss a point blank shot on an afk heavy*
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>>483900489
because now he'll be known as "that guy who destroyed his saxxy" which gives way more fame than just possessing one
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>>483870874
>Is it taking the job of another artist if I never had the money to pay them for the job in the first place?
Yes, because before AI that person would've had to raise the money or attract investors that they then use to pay the artist. What a retarded thing to say. If you're going to play devil's advocate for capitalism, being poor doesn't entitle you to get something for free just because you want it. That's like saying you should be able to steal a car just because you have the tools to hot wire it and can't otherwise afford it.
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>>483883293
Stolen screenshot or inspect element. The real 404 has a tripcode.
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>>483892546
but it worked
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>>483900330
Right, but this makes it sound like they just got one bot leader and there are still plenty of others left for them to go after. Banning new bot accounts will basically do nothing unless there are no more bots left.
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>>483892546
Maybe it’s like when Adele destroyed her Grammy because she felt bad for winning against Beyoncé.
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>>483874181
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>>483901028
I wished I was a trans gf...
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>>483902356
slop
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP BANNING MY- I MEAN THE BOTS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S TREADMILL WORK IT WON'T WORK THE BOT HOSTERS ARE UBER GENIUSES AND WILL FIGURE OUT A WAY AROUND IT ANYWAYS SO JUST STOP PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHGHHHH
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What's the game status now
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>>483902571
what did you mean by "good AI fempyro" then
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>>483902103
The bot leader was the only person in the group that could program so they just need to update VAC once and yes its over
Theres also caps on reddit showing cathook's github being shown as seized by valve before being deleted
And again, theyre paranoid of spies on the server, its over dude
>>483902818
Saved, no bots anymore
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desu I think it's counterproductive to have a Patrick Bateman-tier skincare routine. Maybe some people benefit from retinol and other supplements but I think washing with gentle soap is ideal. TF2 Medic would know more about dermatology than me.
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tf2 isn't saved until the reserve shooter is reverted
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tf2 isn't saved until fempyro is put in officially
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>>483903374
Meant for >>483900661
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tf2 isn't saved until the heavy update drops
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>>483902818
every server is now tryhard general like groomertopia but with random crits
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I could be mean. I could be angry. You know I could be just like you.
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tf isn't saved until i get my proof of purchase back
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>>483904212
>backstabs you
c u later
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>>483903235
But didn’t Zesty find another group of 60,000 others plus a bot owner? It’s one thing if the largest botnet of all goes down, but if the minor ones are allowed to survive, then they could easily teach their skills to others and the problem would just happen again. It’s like extinguishing a fire in a dry forest: any remaining embers will simply ignite a new one.
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>>483902025
I lost my tripcode code a few months back. I need to boot up trip explorer and make a new one. Can't really inspect element on the actual X app either. I would put out a tweet but apparently X is super good at knowing that "neck yourself" is a bad thing that nobody should say, and I've got a day to go on my suspension.
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>>483904809
Those big ones are idle botters no one ever gave a shit about those
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>>483905430
Okay then I can say fuck you to your face for real. Fuck you.
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I know I’ve asked about this before, but I’ve managed to play a practice 18v18 comp match with bots and it does seem as though it is a viable comp format for those who don’t want to have weapon bans. However, since there is almost a guarantee to be a counter to one’s class on the other team, this style would mandate perfect play by everyone just to continue surviving, especially through choke points, so this may offset any potential benefits of using otherwise banned weapons. For example, a Machina sniper could destroy one engy’s sentry, but the other one could simply wrangle his and point it in the sniper’s direction.

What does everyone think?
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>>483904212
You'll get what's coming to you, you’re blinded by your instincts
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>>483905616
When, where, and how hard, baby. Condom or raw dog?
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rate my bowster
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>>483907446
what the fuck is that
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It's a ball sack.
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it's a goo sack
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>>483907775
Call me gay but I know what my ballsack looks like and that's definitely a ballsack
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>>483907446
isn't among us about figuring out who the sussy guy is? bots didn't require a lot of figuring out
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>>483908003
gay
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>>483908113
But perhaps there could be more friendly fire servers so that teams have to work to figure out who the spy among them is.
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>>483907446
why did anon post his gross balls
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>>483908003
faggot, stop staring at your balls
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>>483905467
Valve still needs to pay to have the additional server space to do things as simple as maintain the existences of their accounts. One can farm item drops on local servers, but there is still harm being done to Valve by keeping their accounts up.

Also, who’s to say they got rid of every last cheater bot in existence? If there are still some left and/or the mechanism for new ones to come about in the future still exist, then it’s only a matter of time until they return.
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Lots of good stuff here

https://archive.org/details/@realtf2patriot

sifting through it slowly, lots of screencaps and images. Have come across the Turkish language several times.
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It's actually genuinely happening.
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>>483910184
some people on the ddit are claiming it's fake lmao
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>>483910184
>he doesn't know how github works
lmao
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>>483910438
Who says they’re not going after its various forks as well? Isn’t that easy to track?
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/tf2g/ if she real
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>>483910707
that’s a man
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>>483910707
that's a me
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>>483910707
>fake hair
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>>483910707
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>>483910707
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JE0Hfvjgsw
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>>483910895
mario?
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>>483911209
yeah
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>>483910707
>reverse image search
>no results
anon..?
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>>483910707
>not a fempyro cosplay
no thanks / not interested
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>>483910707
id let you rail me desu
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>>483910184
Finally, progress.
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>>483910027
>there is still harm being done to Valve
And do they care?
Hint: no.
>who’s to say they got rid of every last cheater bot in existence?
Reddit said it. Also like I said, the only guy in their group who knew an ounce of coding got sniped.
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I do not like the dragon's fury
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>>483877067
She looks japanese anon, not chinese
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>>483910184
>deletes the history on the master branch
>but not any of the branches
https://github.com/0xziess/cathook/tree/raizo
kisak is a retard if this even is him
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>>483912550
Because it turns pyro into scout instead of wm1 man
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>>483913738
https://github.com/0xziess/cathook/commit/f224084b85741d37999eb58d3df15c4051fa11fd

It is kisak. This seems to be legitimate as far as I can tell.
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>>483910184
>kisak valve is a contributer
not sure how github works but can you just add anyone?
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>>483913837
The only thing is I don't see any Valve DMCA notices in https://github.com/github/dmca. Somehow or another, kisak was able to push a commit to the repo and blank the main readme out. This is confusing. Repo history doesn't seem to show anything was in that repo other than the README.
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Heavy should have a minigun based on the principle of gyroscopic precession: the accuracy of the minigun increases while your aim is moving but reduced while you are just hovering over an enemy. Logically, this is a result of spin-stabilization which rotation produces. This would encourage Heavies to do flicking, sweeping, and high-speed tracking instead of just aiming your crosshair over somebody.
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>>483884417
>>mannmelter
it's there to make scorch shit users seethe while punishing their teammates for their idiocy
being able to crit right off the bat lets it one-tap snipers and two-tap medics, not to mention you can use it to crit enemy pyros without needing to flare punch them.
yeah it's situational but it's fun enough that it's fine.
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>>483900780
>t. swallow
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>>483913837
yeah I saw that. I forgot what handle he uses but on closer inspection "member of valve software" makes it pretty obvious
https://github.com/kisak-valve

>>483914038
what's the question? can the owner of the repo add contributors? yes can anyone just be a contributor? can github add people as contributors? I guess that's what we're seeing?
usually the process is done with dmcas and github just displays a message. but I guess since this doesn't violate copyright it's done differently by hacks

>>483914140
git lets you delete the entire history of a branch. it's not an unusual practice. eg when a proprietary package goes open source, you don't want history of commits in case one of them leaks something or a developer accidentally was mean and said "retarded"

that's what happened here but why didn't kisak also delete the branches?
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>>483914205
didn't read a single word
nice pic uohToT/10
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>>483910184
>>483913738
>>483913837
>>483914745
no wait. I'm actually retarded. I forgot, you can actually just commit as someone else. All it counts is the email and kisak's email is public on github

there's like an 95% chance this is fake and we're just being trolled
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>>483915381
wtf? how does this feature not get constantly abused? reminds me of when that indian kid pinged like 200k people with his readme chanhge
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I've been wanting to redo my pyro cosmetics for a while. Current idea is winter wrap-up and pyromancers raiments. Not sure on a third but the right has nose candy (happy) which I thought looked funny
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>>483915381
OK, false alarm then. It's a total fake job. There's also some dude on twitter rn who says he's MasterCatPL's friend and has convo screencaps that prove its fake:
https://x.com/bellpeppers911/status/1806792852191523020
> bro i know mastercat personally and this is fucking fake,
> i can even send our convo as confirmation

Also, the guy who replied to this tweet, Mangos, is supposedly MasterCatPL himself.
https://x.com/mango12s/status/1806795243565580538
> This is MasterCatPL, and this is real, kisak-valve took my cathook fork and clamed by valve, so after kisak-valve took down i quit. If you want to ask questions add me on discord: mastercatpl.

Mangos/MasterCatPL also replied to bellpeppers' tweet where he says it's fake, and Mangos says "true", seemingly confirming it's fake.
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https://rentamedic.org/
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working on pixel art again, need some opinions on which feet look better
might seem trivial but i'm working on getting perspective down better
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>>483916071
as a feet expert left looks the most accurate to what it should be
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>>483916071
2>1>3
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>>483916071
I am requesting Olivia Mann and Konata
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>>483910184
Fucking neat
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>>483915534
If you really care about it you can force everyone to digitally sign their commits but that's not done very often because it often doesn't matter
Most places disable pushing directly to master so there's gonna be a PR or an email floating around proving where it came from
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>>483917036
it's fake mon
>>483915381
>>483915875
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Fuck Engineer. Get head from Engineer. Highlight Engineer posters. Fuck Engineers on the control point. Slamdunk your cock into him. Snap off Engineers overalls. Follow Engineer threads. ERP with Engineer posters. Cum inside Engineer. Hang Engineer in shibari bondage. Have Engineer make you a sandvich after. Launch sperm into Engineer. Fry Engineers brains with sex. Toss Engineer ssalad. Urinate into Engineers mouth (he's into it). Judo throw Engineer onto a bed. Blackmail Engineer into sex with his dox. Twist Engineers nipples. Report your love for Engineer to Valve. Always uber Engineers. Split Engineers legs in half. Sexually heal Engineer. Give Engineer surprise buttsex. Critically hit Engineer in the prostate. Mpreg Engineer. Get trapped into sex by demon Engineer from the underworld. Dump sperm into Engineers cum dumpster. Submerge Engineer into a vat of cum. Suck Engineers dick. Dissect Engineers clothes off. Dominate Engineers. after defeating them in MGE. Slap Engineers face during sex with the Hot Hand. Give Engineer health packs. Make Engineer suck'em. Cream inside Engineers hole. Lobotomize Engineer into a sex slave. Mandatory slut training for Engineer mains. Give Engineer your love paste. Drown Engineer in mad milk. Whip Engineers ass with a disciplinary action. Camp in the same tent with Engineer. Invite Engineer to your mvm lobby. Feed Engineer your semen. Give Engineer your hat drops in exchange for sex. Fuck Engineer like an alligator. Slice Engineers clothes off with the half-zatoichi. Clone Engineer to have 2 of your favourite fuck buddy. Goon to https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/1/15/Eng_aerobic_02.mp3 daily. Have your way with Engineers while they're idle. Take a sign professing your love for Engineer to Valve headquarters.
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So when are the losers gonna buy more bots? Come on, I've been waiting 2 days. I dare you to do it.
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>>483910184
>fixtf2 actually saved tf2
Surprising, but nice
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Who do we have to Thank for #FixingTF2?
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>ZestyJesus
Got people to boycott keys in TF2 and give the game a negative review
>Signanon
Went to Valve in-person to bring attention to the bot crisis
>Eric Smith
Finally succeeded in getting the rest of Valve to pay attention to TF2
>joshie
Wrote the actual programming to eradicate the bots in TF2
>penguinz0
Made people pay attention to the movement as a prominent internet celebrity
>Tyler McVicker
Brought more attention to #FixTF2
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How come Valve didn't make a tweet or blogpost? Are we just seeing the beginning? Or nothing?
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>>483918478
why don't you go suck their dicks if you like 'em so much?
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>>483916071
this is what femscout would look like if she was asian or black
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>>483918845
The only guy on that list who's really attractive enough to give fellatio to is penguinz0 and maybe Hank Schrader.
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>>483918478
Hey you forgot Weezy, the day right after his 30 hour long Adderall binge was when bots received a banwave. Coincidence? I think not
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>>483918478
you forgot me
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>>483918478
What about Gabber he gave Gaben the idea of using his connections to get a drone strike launched at omegatronic’s house
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guys in your opinion whats the best looking map in tf2?
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>>483883352
cashworks for some reason
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>>483921434
i really like how standin looks even doe it sucks as an actual map
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>>483921578
Meant for >>483921434
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>>483921434
dustbowl. specifically both mid and spire. they're my favorite mge maps for that reason
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>>483921827
>>483921434
im confusing up my tf2 maps
badlands*
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>>483921434
For me its sawmill.
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>>483921434
for me it's hydro, phoenix, lumberyard and well
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>>483841641
>garuda linux
SAAR DO NOT REDEEM
>>483842038
>zoomers
I've been playing since I was 9. 2012. That "zoomer" was not even born yet.
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>>483921434
Stock: Double Cross
Community: Laughter, the lighting and detail is perfect
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>>483916071
Nice work mate. Do you have an archive of your work or something? Really like your pixel art.
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It's nice that Valve has done a few banwaves of the bots and bot hosters. But I remember when they did a banwave last time. I want to know if they'll actually commit to doing the treadmill work.
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What's going on with the current "player" count trends?
Are the bots swarming servers in retaliation?
More actual players picking up the game because of word of mouth?
Idle bots coming in for the summer update that'll be up soon?
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>>483923234
Idle bots booting up for summer cases
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>>483923351
>>483922838
whoops missed these ones
>>483821387
>>483823057
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Why are all the bot hosters pathetic neo nazi types?
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>>483921434
for me its arena_offblast, in general i love the desert themed maps
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>>483911992
>Also like I said, the only guy in their group who knew an ounce of coding got sniped.
It doesn’t mean he can’t teach his skill to others, plus, this is only one group.
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>>483923234
literally just idle bots
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>>483923234
why do idle bot hosters waste the bots on tf2 when there's banana and cats now
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>>483916071
First one has a bit better perspective in terms of the foot facing toward the viewer
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>>483923234
People heard about the bot ban wave and are coming on to check it themselves.

>>483923335
>>483925967
Why the fuck would they be idling for nothing you absolute retards?
They don't have to "prepare" for anything. They're not going to sit there and wait an entire month for the update. You just hit a button when the update goes live.
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is tf2 saved?
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>>483926789
why would you risk losing an hour of crates when the very first day of a new crate is when they're at the maximum price?
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>>483927448
Why would you waste GPU cycles leaving your bots running collecting nothing for what could be over a month? The Summer update in 2022 didn't release until the very end of July.
You're inventing some insane cope to ignore the occam's razer that people heard there was a bot ban wave and are coming on to check if the bots are in fact gone.
If there was any credence to your garbage headcanon you'd see these spikes happen randomly every so often if idle bot hosters tried to "guess" when an update was dropping but you don't. You literally only see the spikes WHEN an update drops.
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>>483927678
You are coping so hard, all evidence points to the game is botted to hell
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>>483905467
They cause supply-side deflation in the TF2 economy by causing items to come into existence when they shouldn’t and oversaturating the market with them. The only items that sell for more than a few pennies or a few dollars have special qualities or have unique qualities like unusual effects that cause them to stand out.
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>>483928051
You're the only retard coping here, even after Zesty dumbed down for you what the idle bots are after you're coming up with some insane shit pulled out of your ass
>oh they just RANDOMLY spool up thousands of them to try and guess when the update will drop, clearly this is what's happening
>even though Zesty said they only come on when an update drops, no they must happen all the time
>that's more sensible than bot weary players logging in the first time in months when they hear the bots are gone
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>>483928337
>even though Zesty said they only come on when an update drops
You didn't watch the follow up video where he found 70k active bots
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you need to restart the game after an update anyway
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>>483928535
Yes I did, and it was 60k. You didn't understand the point that those are the ones that are always online. Those are already represented on the steam charts graph and why it doesn't dip. They don't RANDOMLY spool up more than those when there's no update like your dumbass is proposing, if they DO, it's when an update drops. Which is what Zesty was saying when he was talking about the Summer update peak.
You're inventing some insane headcanon that the bot hosters spool up more bots randomly to try and "catch" an update, and if that were the case we'd see way more spikes on the steam chart. But we don't. Get a clue.
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>>483927678
>gpu cycles
textmode
>for what could be over a month
so? the people who run bots live in poor as shit countries. if an hour of downtime means losing $1, that'd be as though you lost $100
they'd still be able to sell weapons in the mean while
>you'd see these spikes happen randomly every so often
why would you expect it's random? we haven't received updates on a "random" basis in over 6 years. we only see spikes during summer and winter. and we only see spikes during summer and winter. and 1 month afterwards they immediately all leave
look at the steamdb charts
https://steamdb.info/app/440/charts/#12y
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>>483928936
You don't fucking get it
The idlers started up their bots to check if they got banned
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>>483905783
mad milk is still OP
jarate is still OP
the rest of the banned weapons are still unbalanced for comp but would be drowned out by the chaos.
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>>483929027
>why would you expect it's random? we haven't received updates on a "random" basis in over 6 years.
What you and the other retard are trying to suggest is that there's random spikes that happen every so often from bot hosters trying to "guess" when an update is going to drop to catch the crates when they go live (which wouldn't even fucking work, see: >>483928916 )
If that WAS the case you'd see way more random spikes from them trying to catch it. You don't. And yes, the updates ARE random. Last year was July 12th. The year before that was July 29th. The year before that was June 22nd. There's no consistency other than the season.
>look at the steamdb charts
Each one of those spikes is exactly when an update dropped you retard. Not before.
All you did was prove my point.

>>483929406
Let's play a thought exercise because you're clearly dumber than a sack of rocks.
If there's 60k idle bots always running (source: Zesty), and there was steam maintenance/banwave on Tuesday night that knocked them down offline, and the playercount immediately after was at 60k on Wednesday, then they were already back online.
What you're now suggesting is that after the already counted for 60k bots were back online, they started spooling up another 50k bots, but not all at once, over a slow and methodical period of time similar to how people hearing through word of mouth that the bots are gone might log on to the game. And this is actually normal because they're looking for an update that likely won't exist for another month.
Do you realize how retarded that sounds?
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Need a thread here!
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NEIN
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>>483929027
why does tf2 even have text mode anyway
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>>483930127
Yeah, gotcha
>>483930303
>>483930303
>>483930303
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tf2g no more
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>>483930041
all im gonna say is maximum copium
if you total up the count of all public game servers (valve servers are public), you get 6-13k players depending on the hour
why would 100k players be on private servers?
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>>483930418
>>if you total up the count of all public game servers (valve servers are public), you get 6-13k players depending on the hour
Oh yes, the infalliable teamwork.tf, the teamwork.tf that doesn't disclose how they actually track servers, the teamwork.tf that bans you if you ask how they track servers, the teamwork.tf that has never once had the playercount increase past 10k even on major update days, THAT teamwork.tf. Yes, clearly that's the true information here.
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>>483921434
the enclosure stage with the waterfall, or mossrock.
I am a sucker for jungle themes
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>>483893924
theres 2 fucking rounds and no scramble of course they give up
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>>483910184
Couldn't it be a huge troll?
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>>483910184
>>483942224 (Me)
That's not how GitHub takedowns work, I'm pretty sure it's fake.
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>>483914478
its stock flare but shit
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>>483921578
cashworks? that map is known to have fucked up clashing colors and architecture everywhere.



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