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Horus Luprecal edition
>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
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Invaded: >>483901558
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If Marika hated the whole practice of pots, why does it seem pots are still such an enduring pot of Erdtree worship? There's so fucking many and it's clear that they've been practicing that kind of Erdtree bodily return for a long time.
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>Green
Areas related to Marika (Metyr/fingers, churches, Messmer, her village, godhood tower and Hornsent Grandam, Bayle is also related since him hurting Placidusax definitely helped her, Romina's church also got burned by Messmer, for some reason)
>Blue
Areas related to Miquella (St. Trina and him ascending to Godhood)

I don't think they have anything related to the red area or abyssal woods
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How much STR do I want for general play? Is 55 enough? Or do I need like 80 like DEX if I'm level 150?
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>>483916894
Sadly, I'm a dragon with blue dancer charm
>>483916758
Haven't tried that yet. Where is that ash of war?
>>483916789
Not sure if Palm blast would work, i think it's hand to hand exclusive
>>483917001
Can't equip armor in dragon form using rock heart unfortunately
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>There's a secret third phase to the final boss
>requires you kept Radahn's remembrance and have specific quest progressions
>You resurrect a copy of Radahn from the Erdtree's remembrance of him and then ride/pilot him like ratatouille or giant clank to have a giant kaiju battle between you and MohgRadahn
Nonas... were we wrong? Is the vision clear?
Is Elden Ring actually....
good?
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I like this sword but the explosions hitbox needs work
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Doing DLC on my low level twink is not as awful as i thought it would be
Inquisitor is still going to torment me, i bet. Does he have any glaring weaknesses or exploits? That's the only wall left between me and a sweet, sweet nanaya's torch.
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>trying to coop dlc bosses
>maxed out skibidi fragments
>still getting 2 shot or instagrabbed
>if not that the host gets 1-2 shot or instagrabbed
>dedicated damage build gets mogged by meme kevin build whos fatrolling and using 2 soreseals
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>main-gauche implies that it unlocks a special moveset when used in the off-hand with a thrusting sword
>it's just the dual thrusting sword moveset
>but with a dagger
>so it's weaker
>but you can put parry on a dagger
Is... this it?
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should i change my build
im getting fucked up by malenia even with mimic tear :(
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>>483917167
She didn't hate the practice she hated how it was done. Erdtree pots carry the corpses of dead warriors in them so they can be buried and reborn through the tree. The hornsent potting was just melding living people together.
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Nanaya..forgive me....
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>>483917013
MELINA I JUST WANTED TO SAVE YOU
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>>483917326
Gaea...forgive me...
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>>483916843
>>483917071
you know what this means
it's just like the ripple blade
this might be immediately nerfed
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>>483917296
Considering that was her first exposure to it it still seems like a weird tradition to carry on in any way whatsoever with all the trauma and hatred it caused.
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>>483917174
>using fists with no poise or absorption
lmao, can't help you with that bud
Those slow ass animations with piss poor range just aren't going to work.
Maybe try Beast Claws that can at least stunlock people with multihit + bleed.
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>>483917290
mind is kinda high vig is low

I'd respec but what's your build trying to do
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>>483917212
I feel like this and Messmer's Spear are going to get nerfed
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>boar rider's albinauric GF was riding nearby
>he was Messmer's sole friend
Jesus fuck i'm not fighting him ever again
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>>483917290
>33 VIG
>WAHHHHH WHY DO I KEEP DYING
every fucking time dude
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>>483917070
>304 damage without the talisman
>335 with the talisman
Actually worth it.
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>>483917212
It's got the longest lunge in the game and at a seriously quick speed too, the smaller AOE explosion is a worthy tradeoff considering you can cover 3-4 rolls distance with the thing in under a second.
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>>483917352
Nah, no regrets for me. It’s even quite romantic, since you either burn her into one, or get killed by her. Nothing else survives, just Melina and you.
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>>483917481
Messmer's spear is like the most balanced DLC weapon.
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>>483917453
a bit of arc caster, and using dex weapons
i'm kind of unsure myself honestly

>>483917509
i've never needed to push my vigger this high in other soulslikes, what should i take it up to?
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>>483917249
Having beaten Inquisitor on a level 70 character with 12+ weapons and 5 blessings... don't do it at 5 blessings. Try to get at least 10 or 12, because there's no bonfire down there for you to eat more. It really depends on whether you can stagger him or not. My build had a hard time staggering him, so I had to rely on backstabs with the misericorde (no dagger talisman, I didn't have it). The thing about backstabs is that they will give you i-frames while his summons try to spam you to death, and the i-frames last long enough that the small ones will usually disappear. The fat summons are the issue, you need to keep your eyes glued to both them and Jori while they're up, and only go for backstabs at that point. Sometimes you'll get clipped by their spin attack out of a backstab, but that's the price of doing business.
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>>483917430
I have been using beast claws +25 occult infused and they work fine solo and against invaders (I always have tongue on to relive DS1 days).
It's when I do coop where shit sucks and I can't do enough damage to overcome the health bloat bosses get
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>>483917171
abyssal woods is related to the finger shit with ymir. each ruin is deliberately next to something impacted by the fingers.
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>>483917630
I feel like they'll nerf the throw though
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is the moon always out when you finish rannis quest? I see it at all times even in the scat realm
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I can't believe it come to this guys. It's over. Fromsoft is finished.
Almost like people are now starting to finish their playthroughs
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>>483917560
I don't want it to be fair I want it to be feared
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>>483917646
Oh, and obviously pick up Marika's braid if you can because you WILL be getting tagged by projectiles throughout the fight. Safest time to backstab him is when he's casting spira.
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>>483917249
I believe the summons have like 1 HP so fan daggers might work. I didn't get a chance to try it myself, though.
You can also backstab him.
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>>483917676
Of course. They don't call it out in her description but the Three Fingers is certainly a spawn of Metyr too.
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>>483917563
So is Nanaya the Hyetta for Midra? Why did she tell him to edge instead of bursting into frenzy?
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does giving yourself fragments flag your character?
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>>483916832
>>483917051
>>483916935

red pill me on some suggestions
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Reminder than mountain tops of the giants is actually a decent zone.
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so I know that 60 vig is the base standard, but what about end? is that build dependent? should I be hitting 30 END?
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>>483917646
How are his status effect resistances? Most enemies in the DLC have no protection against an ailment soup.
Also, do blessings impact the matchmaking? I'm on a level 7 +3/1.
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>>483917814
not that I'm aware of
they don't seem to do much anyways
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>>483917793
Where did this come from? Weren't the 3 fingers just summoned by the merchants? To mock the actual 2 fingers? Which is why they are fucked up and they have to touch physical things to communicate, as opposed to the 2 Fingers? (Fingerprint Shield)
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>>483917780
Huh, that's a nice idea, thanks anon.
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How do you think Leda convinced the Hornsent to help her in ganking you, after she attempted to kill him?
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>invade
>host and his friend pull out a thrust shield and backhand blade immediately
fucking pathetic
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>>483917852
>show up to a gentlemans duel of fistycuffs
>stab the guy
Woooooww
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>>483917827
They somehow made the south part of the map even worse than Mountaintop of the giant. At least the mountaintop has shit to collect.
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>>483917945
Could be fingers that were infected and driven insane by the frenzied flame.
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I misused all my hefty pots thinking I'd be able to buy as many as I wanted later on and now THERE'S NO WAY FOR ME TO KILL THESE FUCKERS.

Do I respec to int or fai.... to kill them?
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Fucking whoops
>>483917924

I keep forgetting how fast these threads go.
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>>483917013
Man he's ugly
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>>483917827
Mountaintops is okay. Even Faram Azula is okay, but it's the most annoying "I thought this game was over, I have no idea why I'm here and what I'm doing and this shit makes no sense and I'm ready to be at the final boss now" feeling on a first playthrough, even though it too has a pretty decent level design. Pretty boring enemies though.
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>>483917819
The Rakshasa or however you pronounce it gives you extra poise and you're supposed to take more damage using it but I honestly haven't noticed it. It also has the Claymore R2 so it's fucking brutal.
The base Great Katana can have ashes on it, and it's fucking long so things like Piercing Fang are hilarious and combo incredibly well, especially since it has a running poke. A crouch Poke.
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>>483917795
She was telling him to endure the flame itself. A lord of frenzy fails when they can't endure it, because then the flame just consumes them.
The lord is a conduit for the flame to pour through into the Lands Between, if it burns out the conduit is shut.
The word choice is deliberate, hence "Unendurable Frenzy"
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>>483917852
Nope thought when you get summoned to assist others you assume their level of skibidi blessing thus you can be in for a very bad time if host has forgotten to improve their blessing level
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>>483918056
I beat her and yeah she was a ton of fun
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>>483918049
Hefty Pots are reusable
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>>483917249
Does your summon ash level affect matchmaking
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>>483918012
>invade exclusively with madness perfumes, madness hands and offhand xbow shotgun with blood bolts
>win all the ones I don't get fogwalled into
>swap to less cancerous shit
>every summon is running bhb, deathblight glitch, the new thorn spell, the aimbot jar cannon
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>>483918049
Do you not know about crafting?
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>Someone actually killed this guy the other day..

How.. literally the best npc of all time
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>>483917945
The 3 fingers are fingers and there's no reason to think they don't share a genesis with the other fingers. They were likely a bastardization or mutation or whatever, but I don't know how you could ever really say they have no shared origin. They're fingers, there's not exactly any others unconnected.
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>>483917924
>>483918056
She was my favorite until Bayle. Such a fun fight. Her design is across the board excellent.
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>>483918049
There's messmer goons east of the entrance to shadow keep near some destroyed furnace golems that can drop furnace visages
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>>483917795
The flame of frenzy manifests in the material plane from suffering, and a true lord needs to be able to bear the flame itself. We know that Midra and the other heretics in his manse were executed (or in Midra's case, condemned to execution by torture). My interpretation is that Nanaya asked Midra to endure so that he would suffer enough to be able to endure the flame and become the true lord of frenzy, unlike those who had failed before him (like the failed lord whom Nanaya cradles).

>>483917852
No idea. Blessings should not impact matchmaking as you're scaled to the host's blessings in co-op and I assume they simply don't apply to PVP damage calculations.
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I guess the forager brood stop showing up if you do the gank fight, huh?
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>>483918187
No, go wild.
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>>483917997
Probably because he understands vengance and her lashing out trying to protect Miquella, and then like not much of a leap to then convince him that the real enemy is you, eho are arw a Tarnished who seek yo become Elden lord and like by proxy are designed to prop up the Golden Order that the Hornsent hates
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>>483918049
some of them have invulnerable legs and have to be domed from above with the big pots from a high point
you can also remake them assuming you have the cookbook and spare mats
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>>483918192
post your frenzybuild king
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>didn't take a good screenshot during the moment where PC blows into the giant finger in the ruins
>can't make an edited post of my Tarnished tonguing Ranni's blue hole
w h y
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>>483917943
>skub tree fragments dont seem to do much
Huh?
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>>483918213
When I did the double dragon fight, the boss died first and the mob dragon almost killed Igon.
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>>483918198
What?
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>>483918049
You can kill them without pots. Just attack the legs until they fall over.
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>GENOCIDE ALL HORNED FAGGOTS! Pretty please.
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>>483918187
it doesnt unless they changed it in a patch since the last time i checked. good for making twinks. also i find that bosses are really fun in a inuque way when you are way underleveled and using summons to get to endgame loot.
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>>483918294
Yep
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>enemy uses an attack that spreads fire all over the ground
>jump
>it angles off of a rock and hits me anyways, killing me instantly
Why don't they just program you to be invincible to this shit instead of disabling your leg hurtbox.
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>>483918396
nta but the pots are reusable, all of them. They fix themselves
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>>483917997
>did you know that the tarnished is trying to start Marika order again?
I wonder how they figure it out
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>>483918425
Have you seen the Omens in the sewers? They're fucking gross. I will totally kill them all
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>>483918502
How do you craft things? The blacksmith in roundhold?
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>Inquisitor
>Gravebird
>Bloodfiend
>Man-Fly
>Spider Scorpion
>Shadow commoners
Here's your DLC.
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>>483918571
Hit your start button and there's literally an option that says item crafting you dunce
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>>483918410
There are multiple invincible to damage
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How would the golden order deal with Ayre type species?
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The "trigger warning" cut content xeet got deleted lol
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>each demigod's right hand man
>morgott: kristoff
>malenia: finlay
>miquella: leda
>radahn: jerren
>mohg: ansbach
>rykard: bernahl
>ranni: blaidd, (you)
>messmer: gaius
>godrick: a dead dragon
Poor Godrick
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>>483918571
You need to collect cookbooks, then the items needed for crafting. If you have ever used a hefty pot for anything, you must have done this before.
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>>483918651
yea because he was a pathetic retard that dickrammed the DLC and didn't talk to the NPC who said the line he got trannyhurt over lmao
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>>483918651
lol
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>>483917013
You can scarlet rot radahn in his second form, it just takes a bunch of the heavy rot pots.
Turns out if you have them on your item bar your mimic has access to them and will use them. I'd feel bad cheesing him, but this boss sucked and I just wanted to be finished with the DLC.
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>>483917352
they deserved better
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so whips are just completely fucking garbage right?
I never see anyone talking about them anywhere
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>>483918649
Genocide, which is apparently what Marika defaults to.
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>>483918651
It was a stupid tweet claiming something that's still ingame as being cut content
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>>483918771
>TWIGGER WARNING
>DLC CUT CONTENT
>I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO POST IT NOW...UGH....
>It's something already in the game
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If I respec from pure STR to STR/FTH, should I only get enough FTH to cover whatever I want to use/cast? Also I'm guessing Clawmark Seal is the best option?
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I want a Elden Ring collaboration in Monster Hunter Wilds, I want to fight Bayle with MH combat and see his armor and weapons
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>stuck on Rellana
>can't beat her
>finally decide to use Mimic
>it ruins her completely
Holy shit I feel like I was cheating. What even is this
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>>483918783
So Poleblade of the Bud can work against him?
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>>483918148
>>483918198
>>483918279
>>483918349
>>483918641
Thanks everyone. I'll be re-crafting my pots. Cheers and have a cool friday!
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>>483918901
the in-game assist feature
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Are there no night bosses in the dlc?
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>>483917997
The difference in armor design between the base game and the DLC is really noticable. They made a lot of shitty armor sets for some reason when they clearly could've made some good shit like Leda sooner.
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>>483918651
It wasn't even cut content and is still in the game
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So what's the lore justification for i-frames?
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>>483918476
Nice. If I wasn't fairly confident he wasn't going to give me something worth caring about, I might be upset.
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>>483917997
>With the object of his vengeance gone, his blade has grown dull.
>In that state, I don't imagine he will ever fight again. I needn't bother with him.
>Lest, of course, another target for his retribution should appear.
Leda's pretty conniving
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>>483918901
Do you not just alt-f4 if you feel like you accidentally chested something?
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>>483918862
I am a whip enjoyer, but they aren't viable for bosses.
Really good for overworld exploration and they ignore stone/rock enemies gimmick. Also usuable in pvp if you dual wield bleed ones.
I always keep a whip as my secondary weapon but generally just use my primary on bosses.
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>>483918901
Luigi mode
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>>483918984
The predetection of Zazibart iirc
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>>483918934
good luck anon
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>>483918901
It's so funny how Mimic and Sorcerery are considered easy mode when Int players are getting fucked up the ass in this DLC. It's hard to cast spells when every boss closes the distance in 3 seconds.
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>>483918148
I never knew that
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>>483918998
No, I still won. Only the results matter.
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>>483918526
>I wonder how they figure it out
I'm convinced the original script involved miquella recognizing the player as a threat and trying to keep (you) out (cutdialogue has messmer refer to miquella by name), and once his followers get into his cuckshed he's in a position to tell them you're an outsider and thus need to die.
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>most major DLC bosses are parriable
>most major DLC bosses are vulnerable to status
>most major DLC bosses are vulnerable to stagger
>most major DLC bosses deal low enough stamina damage that even medium shields are useful against them
The truth is that casual niggers should get impaled for pretending those fights are unfair.
It's Margit all over again.
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>>483918928
Any rot weapon would but his resistance is way too high for it to be viable. Heavy rot pots insta rot anything else in the game for reference, he needs like 4 of them to get rotted in phase 2. But this also means he stays rotted the entire time since his resistance is so crazy high. You'll kill him normally before you proc it with normal weapons.
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>>483918352
its scummy for the sl but whatever
>level 25 +3/+1
>vagabond start
>vig 25
>mnd 10
>end 13
>str 14
>dex 14
>int 9
>fth 12
>arc 7
>radagon +5 stat seal
>marika +5 stat seal
>fth ring
>fap ring +2
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>>483918864
>accidentally burn the entire planet as a result
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>>483919127
Oh that's fair
I feel bad when I do that so I alt f4 to try it a different way
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>>483918991
You get a bunch of the crafting recipes for pickled resistance consumables and stuff mostly
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>>483918846
We deserved better.
>>483918934
>>483919107
Do you guys never bothered to read item descriptions
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>messmer has a lot of friends
>loyal men
>a hot knight waifu
>still depressed because of mommy
WAKE UP BRO
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>>483919106
Wasn't the DS3 designer in charge with this DLC? That explains a lot
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>>483919106
I use magic for clearing zones and then just remove all my magic and blue flasks and equip a shield for bosses
Spells aren't worth it
>>483919203
Years ago
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>>483919152
Margit is unironically bullshit though, I've played since launch and still haven't gotten past him
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>>483918651
I'm not terminally online, what was the tweet?
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What the fuck how big is this dlc? There's so many different areas.
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>>483918867
>>483918974
Seriously? lmfao what a retard
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>>483918901
>Almost beat Rellana but died to messing up in the second phase
>got too frustrated and summon mimic
>fight is brain dead as fuck
Fucking hate myself for that.
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>>483919279
it doesnt matter what, its twitter trash
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>>483919194
I know, I think I found most of them before that, which is why I'm not too fussed about missing one. Do you know how many bell-bearing pots there are in the DLC? I think I found 3, but I might just break down and look up a guide.
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>>483918972
No but there are some items that only spawn at night like larval tears for example
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>>483919106
as an INT main this dlc is very difficult
try and cast? smacked around instantly
I've resorted to shieldpoking with a cold claymans or bird rain spear just to stand a chance or getting to hard to reach areas and spamming night mist and zamor ice storm
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>>483919152
>DLC bosses are easy if you change your build and use things that were always considered broken
No shit, bitch.
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>>483918895
>his weapon is the dragon-hunter's great katana
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>>483919152
Somehow, they went the entire game without learning how to play it
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>>483919303
You found the Deep Purple area.
There's a hidden musical cue that plays when you reach an area with smoke on the water
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>>483919204
Don't forget his hot knight waifu literally left her home because saw this mommy issue nigga and wewnt "i can fix him". He didn't deserve her
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>>483919337
X*
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Thoughts on the Euporia?
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>>483919204
He literally sounds like shut-in autist when he kills you too.
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>>483919303
keep going down
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You know there are other ashes besides mimic tear right? You can adjust the difficulty slider pretty widely.
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>>483919106
Don't forget faith enjoyers. I managed to beat the two named dragons with scarlet rot spam but for pretty much everything else I've had to use backhand blade infused with cold/fire/holy and learn melee combat and dodges.
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>>483919152
It’s too easy if you abuse status and parry.
I rather bang my head desu.
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>>483919395
>went through the entire base game without learning to play it
>DLC release
>wtf this is hard it's almost like i never learned how to play the game
>youtubers / twitter tell them to shieldpoke everything to death with antspur rapier behind fingerprint greatshield
>wtf this is easy
>goes through the entire DLC without learning to play it
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>>483919204
he's depressed because he's cursed with a fucking vile death serpent and only like 3 people who ever learned of it still care for him.
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>>483919279
Xeet* and it was saying "Wow, I just found a very trigger warning-y cut content in the lines...."
"It will be revealed in time...."

And then yhe line was just like a line in-game that is someone saying "Here's a potion to take for eternal slumber"
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>Only weapon in the throwing blade class
>It's underwhelming
fug

At least the Night Claws are good and technically throwing daggers.
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>>483919204
>pet who is happy to see you
kek
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Finished INT playthrough, gonna try FTH. What do I use for
>sniping
>aoe sniping
>hitting behind corners
>nuking boss after crit
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>>483919152
>Using a completely different build or abusing the strongest tools in the game removes difficulty
You niggers are retarded and somehow don't seem the problem in what you wrote
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>>483919503
I use Giant Rats against Jori and they clapped his cheeks, giving me time to cast dragonmaw repeatedly
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So did ANY npc get a happy ending?
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>Get summoned by a dude called let me solo
>I let him solo
>He severs me
Getting some mixed signals here
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>>483919340
I don't remember honestly. I can only remember two of them off the top of my head, 3 or 4 sounds right. There weren't many.
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>>483919303
Make sure you updoot my message. You'll know the one ;^)
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How many of Marika's kids would you say are wrong? Strip everything about what she went through and the culture of the setting. It's just Malenia right? Like every other kid could have lived their lives as people fine.
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>>483919564
I'm tired of people shitting on these, they're amazing offhand weapons
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>>483919480
he sounds so fucking tired when he says it, like he's just bored and wants you to win the fight already
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>>483919574
>sniping
frenzy burst
alternatively thunderbolt/honed bolt(idk the name of the spell)
>aoe sniping
ancient dragon lightning spear
>hitting around corners
adls
>nuking boss after crit
adls or giantsflame take thee
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>>483919574
Ehat sorceress did you use to do these?
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>>483919152
when normalfags say something is unfair, what they mean is that the boss doesn't give them 20 full seconds to summon and buff a mimic tear. having to dodge one or two attacks BEFORE summoning their digital big brother to pass the controller to and have beat the game for them is asking too much.
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>>483919386
You can do these things on every build.
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>>483918973
Definitely. I wasn't entirely happy with the base games fashion choices. I stuck mostly to different variants of Banished Knight. But man, I am enjoying the new stuff.
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>>483919570
I wonder if hes used those snakes on himself
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i forgot how to get to gaius
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>>483919413
Lmao is there actually?
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>>483919808
kek
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>>483919587
Doesn't the Hornsent Grandma just go to sleep? Moore can survive too
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What does it mean?
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>>483919852
Iunno
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ancient ruins of rauh have been the least fun ive ever had playing a souls game every, just running around desperately seeking the way forward isn't fun. peeking over cliffs, wondering if "can i survive this drop" so cringe.
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>Give the player a bunch of cool abilities
>Make them take forever to use
>Make the bosses attack 50 times a second
This is why I use Spirit Ashes
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>>483919547
Melina was cursed with death fire and she seems to have accepted it. Why not her brother?
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>>483919621
Cheers.
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ansbach is the only true bro
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>>483919852
destruction brings festering regrowth
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>>483919152
>What do you mean I have to adapt to the boss? What do you mean I can't just mindlessly spam L2? Fromsoft has fallen.
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>>483919808
what a chad
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>>483919852
>rominazibart... forgive me
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>>483919505
I'm flipping between both my faith girl and my int girl and both are having serious trouble. I'm starting to think I need to break out my old faithful Bleed/Arcane build but she's NG+
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>>483918128
>>483918285
I thought you basically die when you become the Lord, was under the impression that in the Lord of Frenzied Flame ending, it wasn't you at the end, but Shabriri using your soulless body.
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>>483919852
she did it for the buds. the buddies. the guys. saint of the bros.
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kek, got it.
this is a real positioning fight, you are basically always ment to try to position yourself to his left. i think people who got stuck for long on this guy didnt realize this
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>>483919574
If you also raise DEX a bit you can use bolt of gransaax for sniping. I usually have it as a sidearm for killing birds or kiting knights.
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>>483919587
Moore if you don't make him kill himself or make him side with Leda
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>>483919852
So how'd she fuse with a centipede scorpion? Is she a hornsent? Why can't she talk? Is she defending the tree? Why are we even fighting her?
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which dryleaf is better, hands or footwork?
And what ashes pair well with it?
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>>483919242
I didn't see Okano in the credits so maybe that was some meme lie or something. He would've just been another Game Designer even if he was involved though. Midra and maybe Metyr are the only bosses that really feel DS3-ish
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>>483919152
Margit is way too hard to parry
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Bayle at blessing lvl 2. I hate these retards!
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it's actually comical the amount of times people say "forgive me" in SOTE
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Is it weird that I feel kind of cheated out of not being able to get Midra's rags as equipment considering we get Goldmask's?
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>>483919918
The new weapons more than any other DLC in From history feels like they were made for you to take them back to the base game and just have fun. Like you're not meant to use them for the Shadow Lands.
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>>483917702
Firmly believe Radahn was what killed all the end game hype. It just makes the majority of player miserable.
The rest of the game can be hand waved and excused, but Radahn was absolute fucking bullshit if you weren't cheesing him or naturally a god gamer.
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>>483919852
its the church burning to the ground before she became a bug
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>>483919574
>sniping
Frenzied Burst or the new Lightning Spear depending on distance and the damage you want to do. I generally always make sure I have enough STR to use Radahn Bow though since his Arrows are always great.
>aoe sniping
The new Miquella Incantations are pretty decent at this. Same with the Giant Wind Tornado Incant.
>hitting behind corners
Bear Roar. Unironically. People kept shitting on me using that, but that thing is fucking brutal with 80 Faith. I was hitting other players with it a whole floor below them when they invaded players I was helping and would one-shot them. It's a fucking NASTY Incantation. You need space to use it and you need to charge it. But if you can get it off. Say good bye to anything around you. It's absolutely god tier.
>nuking boss after crit
Ancient Dragon's Lightning Strike. Nothing else is better. It'll let you hit bosses for 20k+. I one-shot that Underground Sleep Boss forgot it's name.
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>>483920024
>go around the church
>burn the tree
>get teleported away
easy
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>>483919926
>she seems to have accepted it
she declared jihad on the erdtree and started having people skinned. unclear if it was because of the fire or because she was upset about messmer getting abandoned.
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Has anyone been able to reliably oneshot with the Greatsword of Damnation? Most footage I see of it has the grab cap out around 1200-1400
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>>483919852
>messmer and romina are the only required bosses to get to radahn
>they gave cutscenes to divine beast and midra, both optional bosses
Why
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>>483919695
Loretta's Bow, Cannon of Haima, Cannon of Haima, DMGS charged R2.
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>>483919689
It's my favourite voice line in the game because it genuinely sounds like a bad cosplayers autistic impersonation at comicon, lol.
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Bros I think dried bouquet is actually pretty good. If you pair it with unupgraded ashes that produce multiple bodies, it procs each time almost immediately. With Soldiers of Fortune you get a 60% damage increase. You can get 100% if you use Wandering Nobles. Subvert the system. Use spirit ashes offensively.
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>>483919574
the new pest threads fuck huge bosses like no one's buisness, new dragon lightning spear for sniping, fire serpent is your glintstone equivalent
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>>483920078
Cute fat baby
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>>483920005
>makes the entire 15 year history of soulslike orbit around strafing right to easily defeat bosses
>lol what if we make it so strafing left is the way to go
Why
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>>483919991
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>>483920134
I can't help but laugh at the amount of holes in the Godskin lore. I truly think that whole subplot was meant to be cut out but they kept the bosses in for padding.
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>>483919725
The fact that you have to dodge a few attacks before you can get a summon out has filtered at least 75% of the player base kek
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>>483920082
>wanted to use relannas swords the second i got them
>ash of war is genuinely a death sentence and never usable even once in a fight
>go back to the main game in NG+7
>destroy bosses and actually get to use the ash
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>>483920159
>>messmer and romina are the only required bosses to get to radahn
...huh. i knew the amount of actually required bosses was low, but i didn't think it was that low.
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>>483920139
Sword of Light
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>>483920275
based superior AC.
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WHERE ARE YMIR'S MAPS, I DON'T SEE THEM IN THE KEY ITEMS TAB, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>483919971
Why does Shabiri get body jacking privileges and not any other frenzy nigga? Are you saying Nanaya is him as well? He’s not the lord of frenzied flame, I am.
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>>483919782
There is smoke on the water in the deep purple area below that new area yes
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>freyja can be summoned for the divine beast
>dane and leda for rellana
>hornsent for messmer
>igon for bayle
>dane for romina
>ansbach and thiollier for radahn
Leda is a lazy bitch, at least Dane helps us with Romina, why isn't she helping for Messmer?
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>>483920293
Data miners found that the Putrescent Knight used to be called the Gloam Eyed Queen's Knight. They were going to expand her in the dlc but just kinda didn't
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What's the name of that little guy in a cave who does judgement cuts?
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Are any of the new tears aside from the deflecting one really worth getting

fucking hate those nigger giant fire dudes
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>>483919852
smokin that OG rot with my bud buddies
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>>483920293
I want to know more about the gods who got skinned--how many there were, what they were gods of, how they managed to get shit on by some stretchy dudes, and why their collective skins resulted in "standard-issue" gear rather than unique god-specific hardware.
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>>483920497
the yoda looking motherfucker? demi-human swordsmaster onze
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>>483920078
No, I'm not even a frenzyfag, but having his gear including the flaming head would have been kino.
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>>483920472
>why isn't she helping for Messmer?
Because at this point, she's shanking Hornsent with her Miquella-themed special edition penetrator.
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>>483917702
>pretends
Such arrogance. You're right dawg, anyone who doesn't share your opinion on the matter is just making it up for attention.
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>>483920262
This largely applies to other horsemen in ER aswell, especially Night's Cavalry. It's not really *that* new, their "backhand" attacks are always easier to dodge and rarely ever combo.
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>>483920393
i haven't actually tested it, but you can just walk around castle ensis, enter the shadow keep from the side, and then you get teleported to enir-ilim. so those bosses should all be skippable. i have no idea why there's a teleport to enir-ilim
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>>483920438
Resources I think
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>>483920438
Info tab anon
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base game seems much easier than I remembered it. i beat radahn on my 5th try.
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>>483919152
Radahn phase 2 simply isn't fair, yes. That's why most people beat him with scummy tactics that work over fun tactics that do not.
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>>483918862
No, they're good.
They just lack good weapon skills so their burst damage is shit, so they're not very viable for invasions.
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>>483920514
There's a cool %HP drain that gives you a +20% damage boost for three minutes.
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>>483920573
Think so. What's his story?
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>>483920574
shouldve gotten a frenzy form like a dragon form where you get midras head if your lord of frenzy
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>>483920603
>teleport to enirilim
What?
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>>483920245
>new dragon lightning spear
?
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>>483920514
the oil one is good if you use fire attacks, the HP drain damage one is good but risky. The FP gain on attacks is okay.
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>>483917636
>what should i take it up to?
55 minimum, ideally 60.
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>>483920159
Wait, do they really not make you fight Divine Beast? lmao
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>>483917702
I sincerely enjoy the vast majority of the DLC. I just really really REALLY disliked the finale. The fact that the rest of it building up was so good is what made that final step so bad for me.
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>>483920678
while marika genocided the hornsent, he studied the blade
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>>483920451
I like the theory that Shabiri isn't a guy but like a literal demon from hell and he just possesses people after a certain point. I like to think that Hyetta doesn't exist and that's just Shabiri too.
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just got to the dude riding the boar boss on my second play through at dlc lvl 17 and we may have overreacted a bit on his difficulty…
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>>483920576
If you help her with that, she should be a summon for Messmer as a replacement. DO BETTER FOR MIQUELLA YOU BITCH
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>>483920603
i wonder how much you can do before fighting anything. reminds me of the old "everything possible before gargoyles" dark souls 1 series
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Yo FUCK these things
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>>483920514
If you like spirit ashes there's a tear that buffs them
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>>483920293
>I truly think that whole subplot was meant to be cut out but they kept the bosses in for padding.

I think someone on the dev team (Miyazaki himself?) just really hated Melina so any attempts to make her more prominent or factored into the plot wound up on the cutting room floor.
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>>483920712
my bad, meant knight's lightning spear
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>>483920613
Radahn really isn't that hard. I think he's mostly just there for spectacle.
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Holy fuck...after finishing the final boss (with 2 summons, all 3 poking with shields), I really hate Miquella, I hate him I fucking hate him. Disgusting fucking psycho. Not even Griffith charm to him, just fucking creep.
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>>483919106
sorcery is not easy mode in ER with the exception of certain bosses which are laserable and when you're using spirit summons
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Reminder that you gimp yourself if you are good at the game
>never experience the thrilling sensation of beating the boss after he killed you 100 times
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>>483920693
>>483920745
I haven't actually tested it, but I assume the cutscene teleport after burning the sealing tree lets you skip the Divine Beast.
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Alright what the fuck am i supposed to do against this bloodborne knockoff ass frenzy flame dude. He has no health bar and sneaking up on him does nothing
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>>483920693
Yea, after the cutscene where you burn the tree to reveal Enir-Ilim ends you just get ported without explanation
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>>483920560
>how they managed to get shit on by some stretchy dudes
Destined Death was still powering their black fire at that point, so they were all mini malekiths.
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>>483920606
>>483920612
Thank am dumb sorby
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>>483920767
Why does Shabriri keep pretending to be women?
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>>483920961
Oh, I thought you meant you could get there without any bosses in that post. My bad.
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>>483920962
brush xem aside
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>>483920810
"Needle Knight" is such a non threatening title.
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>>483920831
Lol fuck off from you cocksuckers
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>>483919106
>boss opening
>try to cast a spell
>dodge it because casting speed is too slow
I got so mad that I end up as a quality build.
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>>483920678
It turns out that glintstone swordsmanship can be studied so hard you reach the primeval current, like Azur and Lusat. He saw it coming and locked himself up to avoid it
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>>483920962
snake? snake? snaaaaaaaake?!
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>>483920678
Apparently some Demi-Humans realize throwing blue rocks is dumb and decide moonveil is the way to be.
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>>483920962
Parrying their grab removes their untouchability letting you kill them
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>>483920810
>>483920472
How kino would it be if you could use Seluvis's super roofie potion on her after the gank fight for a Leda spirit ash?
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>>483920960
Is the new frenzy spell really just a worse version of Unendurable Frenzy?
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>>483920767
>I like to think that Hyetta doesn't exist and that's just Shabiri too
If you believe that Irina is Hyetta, that makes a lot of sense. Perhaps he took over her dead body and was in a dormant state until you started feeding her eyeballs.
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>>483920758
my overall opinion on the dlc is a 9/10, mostly because of so much of the loot just being titanite shards and radahns 2nd phase, his first phase is a lot of fucking fun but they got carried away in phase 2, not just how much shit there is but the sheer fucking assault on your eyes not being able to see anything
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>>483920927
i remember him being quite a pain in the ass back when I first played. and that was after the nerf.

a little worried and exited to see how easy malenia is.
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Does Bayle's Fire Lightning deal fire damage, lightning damage or both? I need to know which talisman to use.
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>>483920962
FROM quite literally added 1 message at the start of the area as a warning then later on added like 4 more at one spot and another 3 in another spot just to warn people like you.
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Just got to that second phase, can't even psyche myself up to try again - there's no sense of "I nearly had it" like in older games or even just previous bosses when it's all just the same ridiculous AOE after-image/slash bullshit.
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>>483920960
>It's another episode of "Host and phantom spam Backhand Blade AoWs"
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>>483921161
both
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>>483921145
It's far far worse than unendurable frenzy
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>>483920678
He larps as Yoda and Virgil
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WHY DOES EVERY FUCKING EUROTUBER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0fduL3soxY
SOUND EXACTLY THE SAME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StWOECzhSik

THIS IS NOT A REGIONAL THING, YOU FAGGOTS ARE ALL DOING THIS NOW

STOP IT.
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Messmer is two-shooting me bros
I didn't had many problems with the other bosses, but this is... DAMN!!!!!!!
+20 scadu fragments, str/int build
No i'm not going to use summons
No i'm not going to respec
Malenia is a baby-toddler compared to him
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>>483921161
Both, it's literally in the spell name
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midra was fucking shabriri
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>>483919106
dont forget so many bosses dodging spells, the only practical thing is night comet, i fucking gave up real fast on using any of my ice spells and just stuck to moonlight greatsword
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>>483920960
Jesus christ what's even going on that whole webm
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>>483920758
miyazaki's worst decision was thinking that people don't care about anything other than epic anime raid boss fights and difficulty
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>>483921262
Post bulid and ng+
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>>483921262
>+20 scadu
>getting two shot
Post vigor so I can laugh at you.
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>>483920293
i cannot be convinced that the DLC wasn't originally supposed to be about godwin and the GEQ. the whole realm of shadow is death-centric: tombstones, ghosts, even deathroot everywhere. his personal guard knights are there. the scadutree avatar arena is covered in deathroot thorns and black sludge-water and looks like it was made for his freaky fish form. death this, death that - it's the whole plot of elden ring. and the god of death slept in and forgot to show up for the dlc. get the fuck out of here michael zaki.
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>>483921262
What's your VIG? And are you loading up on defensive options like resistance talismans?
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>>483921262
Wait til you get to final boss, every other boss is really a joke compared to shitshow From decided to make out of the final.
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>>483921248
The EU has been pushing education campaigns and mandatory voice coaching to establish a wider European accent
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Aah, you were at my side all along.
My true mentor... My guiding starlight...
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I think radahn is going to make me drop this dlc, I honestly just don't wanna fight him anymore and since the ending is apparently unsatisfying I really don't this it's worth it. How fitting for a game with so much repeated content to end in a repeat fight.
The only two bosses I had fun fighting were messmer, mydra and to some very minor extent bayle(mostly due to egon). If the next game is another rollslop one, it will probably be the first time that I won't buy a fromsoft game.
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>>483921316
>miquella only refers to malenia as his loyal blade, not his sister
feels bad
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>>483920962
Stealth is a vital part of Elden Ring Online
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From has actually destroyed the future of their games with arts of war. There is no going back. You might as well just make every button do a different super move now instead of even having basic attacks.
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>>483921216
Honestly frenzy builds must be pretty insane now that an exultation talisman was added + the passive from the Frenzy fists.
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>>483921289
Shabriri looks like Junior Soprano
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>>483921262
Dodge to the left, get where the new dlc fire amulet and other defense amulets.
Also could use a shield
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>>483920831
I wonder if all the ones surrounding the evergaols were supposed to be like this to prevent escape attempts, but over time they lost so much power all they can really do is stare and glow.
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people be saying that casting spells and incantations are next to impossible in the DLC but if someone does it, they complain that the player is cheesing and is unfair. there's really no winning with these retards unless you use a melee weapon, no damage, parry-only mental gymnastics.
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I'm guessing invasions take scadu level into account for matchmaking?
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>>483921324
>raid boss fight
he got it right with the first radahn fight, summoning all the boys to charge at radahn to give him a proper death was kino, he was easily one of my favorite fights pre nerf
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>>483921319
Two phantoms are spamming blinkbolt
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>>483921324
Team Ninja doesn't have this problem. You can have big, dumb anime fights but it doesn't sacrifice story or game design to pull it off.
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>>483921161
>>483921197
>>483921276
Is it the better of the two? I heard Bayle's Tyranny has a weird hitbox and can't hit enemies not on the same plane as you.
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I have a question. I have 52 ARC, RL 150. I have a medium spear that has inherant ARC scaling right off the bat, and it's Occult. Why does it only have ~500 AR? Is it because it's a lighter weapon compared to my MSS?
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>>483921248
lol aussie youtubers are like that too. i think it's the stuffy nose nerd archetype just being transposed across different accents.
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>>483920683
If the Erdtree hasn’t been burnt yet, imagine Melina’s face when she sees the Tarnished coming back looking like THAT.
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>>483921483
God Nioh is such overrated ugly trash
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>>483921463
Stop being a crybaby
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>>483921413
This should have been a light greatsword, did we really need another int katana
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>>483921458
There's a few new types so that's actually pretty possible.
>>483921413
It's such a fun weapon. I'm so glad from is going even more in to the stupid anime weapons. The big fuck off hammer that you spin around and throw is awesome too.
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>>483921491
It's the other way around
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>>483921375
宵眼の女王の騎士 = Knight of the Gloam-Eyed Queen
>>483921473
Radahn's fight is amazing. I wonder how it would look like with NPCs having dialogues DURING the fight like how they did with Messmer, Bayle, etc.
>>483921483
The fuck that looks like Radahn
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>>483921262
>Malenia is a baby-toddler compared to him
lol I honestly think Messmer is a lot easier than Malenia.
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in the ruins of rauh where the fuck do I go? Ive been stuck running around and jumping off cliffs for the last 3 hours.
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>>483921375
100% agree.

Realized I’m easy to please because if they literally model swapped Radahn for a revived Godwyn fun the final fight I would absolutely love it.
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>>483921483
Nioh has bosses end their attack strings and they have mikiri counter moves.
Nioh bosses attack less then Elden Ring ones which I find really funny
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>>483921426
I think like it's supposed to be like kinda like he does love her or definitely did at one point, but then over time in his quest to create an age of compassion and ascend, he views people mir3 as tools and like how they'll be fine so long as he wins, but that means he can't afford to be too lovey until then, but irinicall7 like meaning he's abandoning his ideals to try and do it, atleast that's my Korean headcanon since it makes me tear up and I love those sorts of stories
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>golem fist
>the r2 damage is abyssmal
>it's range is nonexistent
>the AoW are limited
>oh but the fucking weeb martial arts are so catered to

I fucking hate fromsoft
the fucking hacks
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>fire knight chest armor
>cape looks amazing
>chest red and gold with etched metal plate
>looks great
>matches with literally nothing except its own set


FUCK
also,
PLEASE JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING SWORD ALREADY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>483921375
Oh yeah no, it was 100% supposed to be about Godwyn. His iconography is everywhere.
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>>483921463
Hyper mode insta kills are always fun though
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>>483920960
Midra's Flame of Frenzy, in terms of appearance, is the greatest power fantasy I could have ever wanted as a Frenzy player.

Midra's Flame of Frenzy, in terms of effectiveness, rivals Founding Rain of Stars. It's not even as good as a fucking torch you can pick up several minutes before the boss you earn it from. I hope whoever balanced it is afflicted by migraines for the rest of their lives.
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>>483921104
>>483921121
I can respect that. Cool too.
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>>483921648
I am going to now pretend that the final boss of Godwyn instead actually, thank you
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The ONE time "X forgive me" would've been kino, they chose not to do it. Retards.
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>messmer's helmet can be altered to remove the hair
Why didn't add this to other helmets like Malenia's
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>>483921648
Radahn is just fucking stupid. It's as dumb as Soul of Cinder, where they pull out Gwyn's theme. They really expect you to just soiface and clap.
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I should have killed Moore, this fucker is annoying in the Leda fight
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>>483921648
>>483921607
radahn might've still been at the end all along, but the more i think about it, the more that scadutree avatar seems like a reworked godwin. even the way it hangs it's sunflower head and smashes it around is really reminiscent of how the godwyn corpse hangs its head limply. it pretends to die 3 times, another perfect mechanic for a god of death fight.
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>>483921463
anyone saying you can't hit bosses with spells this time around is wrong, doing a second playthrough as a faith build and you can still spam big damage spells on bosses.
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>>483921716
>>matches with literally nothing except its own set
royal knight greaves
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>>483921573
It's not really an INT katana. It has B DEX scaling and D INT scaling, INT has a big effect on the ash and that's it, but leveling DEX does almost as much. You either go hybrid with it or all DEX.
>This should have been a light greatsword
No, fuck that. The LGS moveset is mediocre and they do no fucking poise damage. As a katana it gets a decent moveset AND free bleed with the ash makes VERY good use of.
>>483921582
Yeah I'm really hoping we get even more wacky anime ashes in their next title. They make the games FAR more fun when we can do crazy shit too and not just the bosses. Fighting a boss that can fire 5 gorillion lightning meteors target locked at your asshole when the flashiest thing you can do is swing a claymore slightly different sucks balls.
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>>483921634
There's East and West ruins and they are not connected directly. The map fragment is in the East section and you actually get there going through the cave just north of Moorth Ruins by the small lake.
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>>483921648
Oh God, that's even more proof. Miquella doesn't even talk about Radahn in any lore, that motherfucker was supposed to be Godwyn.
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kowtower's resentment:
>Skill performed as a violent bow using a finger's foremost protrusion. Resentment builds as it is forced to bow, making it explode with anger. Hold button down to further increase resentment.

who was metyr bowing to? the crucible ayylmao of the primordial erdtree? did it manipulate marika into performing a coup so the fingerthing could get revenge and put itself on top?
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>>483920078
I don't care if it wouldn't make sense, but I also wanted an armor set based on Romina. Or at least some kind of rot-themed armor set with that wild hot pink color scheme to match with her poleblade.
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>>483921324
This shit makes me long for something like Demon's where the final boss is allowed to be a pushover for the sake of story - even though modern From will never do it.
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>>483921440
Wait, passive? Explain further, please.
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>>483921540
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>>483921352
>>483921367
>>483921376
i have 60 VIG you fags
rl 200
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>>483921783
SMEL INDIE COPENY
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>>483921854
Is it better than the Meteoric Ore Blade on an Int build?
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BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>483921463
Why does Bayle get struck by lightning at the end anyway?
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I want to replay the dlc but don't want to go through the base game again
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Where's the Melina sex scene?
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Why the FUCK does the Ancient Meteorite Ore Greatsword scale with Arc instead of Int?
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>>483921262
How did you get 20 scadu when some of the fragments are in Enir-Ilim which you can't go to until after you kill Messmer? NG+?
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>>483922071
If you're just spamming the L2 yes. If you don't level DEX though it's regular attacks will be very weak.
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>>483921736
>>483921826
yeah it only looks easy when you watch someone does a clean run. but whenever you try it yourself, you will actually realize that it needs you to memorize the enemies attacks just as much to pull off the big spells.
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>>483921946
My personal theory is that the any similarities between the Frenzied Flame and the Erdtree/Greater Will is intentional because the FF exists for the sole purpose of destroying it. FF is a mockery of the Golden Order in every way, even down to having sickly glowing yellow eyes like how Marika and her brood have gold ones.
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ALL OF THIS POSTING IS MAKING ME FALL IN LOVE WITH MARIKA AND RANNI FRENZYBROS GIVE ME THE STRENGTH TO ENDURE PLEASE
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thank god he killed her, I almost got NTR'd
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My character is such a hunk, I can't stop looking at him. Still hate Miquella and Radahn for being fags, though.
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>>483922135
apparently its bugged, and on consoles it requires int, which makes way more fucking sense
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is anyone else really excited for the next souls game?

before hand there best selling game sold 10 million copies

now its 25 million and 5 million copies for the DLC almost 3x fucking more sales than dark souls 3

imagine the budget for this next game, they were able to make elden ring just off the money of sekiro, now imagine whats next.

obviously more money doesn't equal better game in most cases, but I think in this one it would.

They can spend more time on the game, get more resources and have a easier development.

We are about to see some crazy shit from fromsoft I believe. They made a DLC have 10 fucking bosses.

Imagine if bloodborne 2 is next and its just a massive gothic city that you can explore with unique bosses everywhere because they can afford to do that now. I actually am so excited to see whats next.
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>>483922141
because he's making shit up and messmer is one of the fights that doesn't give you time to mimic tear at the start. he can't complain about that so he's LARP'ing that he's getting 2-shotted at 60 VIG and an impossible 20 scadufrags.
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None of these bosses are memorable, they all have the same delayed combo strings, gap closers and nukes.
Aging untouchables are literally winter lanterns, also bootleg orphan of cos lmao.
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>what if [annoying enemy] but instead it's 3 of them
>what if corner ambush but instead it's double ambush and if the player notices and tries to kite just one of the enemies they all immediately aggro
>what if aggrod enemies walk really really slow to bait players into rushing into a waiting group ambush or otherwise waste their time waiting to kite one really slow enemy at a time
>what if item guarded by group of mobs is actually just a low level crafting material
really don't care for this kind of game design, wish they did less of this and more actually fun things
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So do you gotta playthrough all the main game shit before you get to the DLC? Can you take that "coward's path" past the elevator and beeline to the DLC areas?
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>>483922083
red lightning is his op he's beefing with placidusax
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>>483921750
Based. Glad I’m not the only one.
>>483921784
If the lord can justify in an interesting way I’ll live with it but as of right now it sucks.
>>483921812
This is such a good point. You’re onto something. >>483921945
Man, it would have be so kino.
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>>483921681
All of that would be fine if the R2 didn't have absurd stamina costs that makes it unviable to use them like regular fists.
Shit, I would've preferred if it was just a Star Fist or Iron Ball reskin, they look so cool but are utterly useless.

Actually I might at least be able to use them with a Roar Setup so not all is lost, still sucks though.
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I've never played darksouls, should i start with 1 or just move on to 3?
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>>483922083
>Why does Bayle get struck by lightning at the end anyway?
placidusax's nemesis. you can see some of placidusax's missing heads gnawing at bayle's body.
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>>483922204
you just dodge the attacks, except now you don't need to stay close to get in a few hits. You can dodge away to shoot spells. From far away you can use faster spells to tack on damage if you feel like you'd get punished too much otherwise.
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>>483922280
japs love that shit for some reason
team ninja do it a fuck ton in nioh games too, they're even worse about it though
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>>483920125
How the fuck do you use the bear? I just tried t and I got shit for effect on target
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>>483922247
On console it requires Int, but the scaling is actually B on Arc. It's ridiculous.
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>>483921750
>>483922302
if you start practicing lucid dreaming right now you can just make the godwyn cutscene in your head and when you wake up it'll feel like it really happened
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Made a 30s webm to showcase the difference between base game vs dlc, hopefully I get the point across
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>>483921784
soul of cinder was a great fight though, nostalgia bait with gywns theme aside, it was the best final boss next to isshin theyve done
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>>483921491
If you get Bayle's heart, choose the chicken wing incant. Its like the dragon slap but it hurts way more.
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Dude what the FUCK is this thing
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>>483922396
Play all of them.
Yes even 2.
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>>483921262
you can roll everything with messmer. even his not-waterfowl.

you just have to realize the fight is different. they do their combo, you get a hit in, they do a combo, you get a hit in. most of them have hyperarmor and don't stagger like malenia does.

his 2nd phase is easier even if it doesn't look like it; you can get good hits on him after his giant snake combo.
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>>483921148
>mostly because of so much of the loot just being titanite shards

There should have been no weapons or armor sets that have to be farmed in this DLC, straight up. It's mind boggling to me that even here we have MMO-tier drop rates for armor and weapons when they have so much underutilized space they could have put chests or corpses holding them. They could even make a game of it by having the set spaced out in pieces across a dungeon, like the Fire Knight set in the Specimen Storehouse or the Ascetic's Set in Belurat. They even did something like that for the Gravebird set and it was a lot of fun tracking them all down.
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>>483922396
Yes start with 1
Try not to get filtered by 2
3 should be a breeze and is the closest to ER in terms of gameplay
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>>483921915
dont care about a map, based on the verticality of this zone it would be worthless.
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>>483922502
a small amount of skill issue in png format
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>>483922424
>>483922424
>ou just dodge the attacks, except now you don't need to stay close to get in a few hits. You can dodge away to sh-
>*boss does its insta inputread gapcloser to smack your stupid nerd ass for trying to cast a spell*
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>>483922502
His timings took me a while to get and he’s really good at out-spacing roll attacks.

Jumping absolutely negates his frost flames attack
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>>483921946
>>483922225
I have a theory that hyetta was actually right, the frenzy flame is the opposite of the greater will, the one great and greater will fragmenting was actually the big bang, the result led to two primordial forces, the creator god of order and the destroyer god of chaos. Anu and padomay if you will.
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>"However ruined this world has become, however mired in torment and despair, life endures. Births continue. There is beauty in that, is there not?"
So does Melina actually care, or is she just Marika's sock puppet? Isn't it weird the only time she shows any emotion is when she realizes you're about to burn shit up?
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>>483922396
You're going to find it almost impossible to play other Souls games if you started with this one. I tried to play BB, DS1, and DS3 and they all feel so fucking slow, easy, and bad compared to ER. I should've started with DS1 and worked my way up, starting here was a fucking mistake. This game ruined me for all it's predecessors. It feels like going from test driving a brand new sports car to your grandpa's beat up rusted shitbox from 1964.
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>>483922502
Orphan of cos but shitty.
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>>483922583
>tfw i spent over an hour trying to get the FK GS just to try it out
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>>483922231
REMEMBER
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>>483922424
>From far away you can use faster spells to tack on damage if you feel like you'd get punished too much otherwise.
yeah it's why i still bring dragonclaw for bossfights.
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>>483922396
play 1 and 3. Ignore 2.
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>>483919574
>general use
black flame
catch flame
sacred blade
flaming strike
golden vow
multilayered ring of light

>sniping
frenzied burst (also a stealth spell)
lightning spear / knight's lightning spear (uncharged is stealth spell)

>aoe sniping
light of miquella
giantsflame take thee
blasphemous blade
(you don't really need this)

>hitting behind corners
blasphemous blade
lansseax's glaive
(you don't really need this)

>nuking boss after crit
black flame tornado
ancient dragon's lightning strike
burn, o flame
unendurable frenzy
pest threads (NG only)
frozen lightning spear
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dark souls 1 i still the goat
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>>483922641
I wish Melina would've had sex with me
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BASED ballista in DLC user, I hate how hard the cannons outclass it
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>>483922613
Calm down it was literally my first attempt.
>>483922624
I died to him spinning at me while the fucking horse roll caught me. Seems a bit goofy
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>>483922578
>roll

I don't like this play style.
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>>483922231
>GIVE ME THE STRENGTH TO ENDURE PLEASE
Imagine the flame as a very busty, hourglass figure of pitch black with yellow swirls moving about her skin.
As a "person" she is very yandere just for (You) and will make sure that once everything else in existence has properly burned then the two of you will burn at the same time in eternal bliss as you kiss.
And while you two kiss and even before while you wait for it all to burn, she hums a melody so enchanting it can't do anything but captivate you.
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>>483922472
Why didn't you include footage of the rock golems in the smithy dungeons petting the lava slimes?
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>>483921506
>>483921506


requesting reply
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>>483922617
literally yes, I've been doing it pretty consistently. If you use a short recovery spell you can bait them into doing a punishable gap closer too.
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>>483919574
oh and i forgot, all dragonbreaths hit around corners and rot breath deals serious standard damage on things that resist elements
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>>483922468
Really!?!?@@?!
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>>483921812
>purple mist all over the deeproot depths godwyn arena
>godwyn is in a "death dream" that you can even enter via the fia quest
>st. trina's area is covered in purple mist
>miquella was trying to give godwyn eternal slumber as st. trina
>his rune breaks in the DLC
>godwyn the death god "wakes up" and becomes the bossfight in the current scadutree avatar arena
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>>483922772
>pest threads (NG only)
It's worth also noting that pest threads is useless in the DLC. Amazing in NG base game, but every large boss I tried it on in the DLC got literally tickled by it.
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>>483922718
Imagine the people that tried farming shit like the Horned Warrior's Greatsword back in Belarut on a blind first run, only to later learn it's NOT a random drop and is guaranteed from one in the literal last area of the damn game I was one of those people
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What do you guys think would be the best thing to infuse on the Carian Dueling shield? I thought magic at first to boost its damage pretty high, but it kind of messes up the negation on phys and other types. Guard boost is also a concern of course.
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>>483921592
How so?
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>>483922803
The roll timing on the spins is very generous.
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Best build for NG+7???
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>>483922820
Anything else?
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>>483920592
nah, you want to go to the right of cavalry but they usually dont let you
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This would have been a good boss if some of the hitboxes weren't wonky.
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>>483922258
Lmao they gonna reuse asset again.
Just look at the DLC for examples.
They have a lot more money, and they still reuse the fucking putrid tree spirit
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What's your Endurance leveled to, /erg/?
Without having my stats open in front of me, I think mine's 30.
Seems low, now that I think about it: top used to getting through Bloodborne with base Endurance.
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>>483922978
flat defense is a bitch
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>>483922978
You using the new pest threads or the old ones? The new ones are chargable and hit pretty hard. Been chunking bosses for me.
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>>483922286
You only need to kill Radahn and Mohg with Mohgwyn Palace Grounds being accessible early on by doing Varre's questline
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>make a perfect or near perfect run against a boss
>die
>flop terribly in another attempt
>win regardless, but it doesn't feel good
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>>483923065
Basically everyone agrees Gaius needs his hitboxes fixed (and a hurtbox added during his charge) and Radahn needs major nerfs. All the other bosses are fine.
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>>483923074
I was part of the 10-15 "end doesn't matter" gang but now I'm always at 30.
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>>483923050
There were also several areas in the gaols where you can find jarfriends playing, or shades arranged in ominous ways like the ones surrounding a cowering one in Midra's Manse.
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ok i tried respeccing my character, does this seem like a promising build? I like the halo scythe, but i also really like the glowing frisbee skills
would it be more effective to just spec into base requirement physical stats for a weapon, lighting infuse it, and then just go all in on faith? are the frisbees strong enough to go through the rest of the game, and the dlc?
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>>483922396
Drop 2 if you don’t like it.
It will leave a bitter taste in your mouth if you keep forcing it
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>>483923059
I am talking about *their* (the horseman's) left
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>>483923202
did you try to use dark souls 1 softcaps lmao
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>>483923232
the other anon was talking about which direction you circle
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>>483923178
His hit boxes are fine, you are not supposed to roll through his attacks.
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>>483923074
55.
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>>483923031
Yea, I nearly killed him on my second attempt. I just didn't know there was even a horse at first. I'll get him in another few tries at most, probably.
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>>483923113
Sure is.
>>483923123
Just the old ones, not Spears. I haven't tried those yet. Regular Pest Threads is worthless in the DLC but I've heard nothing but good things about their big brother.
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>>483923202
>40 vigor
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>>483923162
>win regardless, but it doesn't feel good

This is why I stopped trying. Roll-slop pandering is a mistake. I learned my lesson and saved precious time.
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>>483923029
From personal experience it's pretty hard to hit enemies consistently with flame lightning as most of the time I just end up grazing them slightly
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>>483923178
Let me use torrent on Scadutree avatar.
The fag is running away like Elden beast.
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I’m getting fucked up by that stupid red wolf in the wizard cuck shed. Why can’t I use ashes here?
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What if this was a stand alone product? People would be gushing about certain aspects of it, but the absolute letdown and non closure ending would absolutely sour peoples opinions on it if it was not "more eldenring".
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>>483923045
for ng+7 enemies have 40% more poise so you want things that do extreme dps. personally i think nothing even comes close to the safety and ease of 80/80 int/fth comet spam. you have every defensive buff in the game, every status effect in the game, and range
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>finally beat mohg at RL 47
>using poison antspur and cold morningstar
>now getting walled by red bear
I guess it's time to collect some skibidi fragments since I do no damage to him.
This will all be worth it...
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>>483917997
>he's with marika
simple.

as an aside, i liked how leda ended up as a paranoid homicidal maniac who likely killed many of her loyal companions.
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damn just found out i was supposed to upgrade the mimic
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>>483922978
worked pretty well for me at bayle, just had to position myself under his ass
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>>483923259
p-perhaps

>>483923306
im going to level it up eventually :(
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>>483923303
the damage for the big spears is really great but the dps is awful due to the long cast time
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Marika is MINE!
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>>483922726
Imagine the age of fracture ending after needling the frenzied flame but right at the end, we see Melina’s shadow step up before the new Elden Lord…
£Melina: I was wrong… in your journey, you seemed to have learned more than I’d ever thought one could. Of the failures of those before, and what boons you may gain from them… I wonder… didst thou endure these hardships and sacrifices for mine sake alone… or wouldst thee do it for all in these lands?.. I came to deliver to you what is yours… but perhaps it is not time you receive it yet… I will wait and see the age you bring, and I pray the care you showed me, will be extended to all life.
>Melina walks away
>Melina: Torrent, I never should’ve doubted your choice. Goodbye, Tarnished Lord. Thank you.
>Narrator: They will remember; The Age of Sacrifice
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>>483923074
30 and it's just barely enough for me to carry everything I want with the havel and fap rings. I like to have at least 20 on any character even if they don't have heavy equip loads
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>>483922448
First, you gotta charge it and keep holding it even after you think it's over. There is more. It benefits from charging stuff. And from all Incantations. If you can't hit players for over 1k with it, you're doing something wrong and I can't tell you what unless I see pictures or videos.
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>>483923282
Anon several of his hitboxes literally don't match his animations. You get fucking phantom hit. That's not "fine".
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>>483923278
ahh right he was confused
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>>483923162
I don't know how the fuck I beat Bayle first try.
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>>483922396
Obligatory 1 then 3. 2 is optional.
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>>483923183
Do you feel like you're running out of stamina at all in boss fights?
>>483923287
Been thinking about adding a few levels, myself.
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>>483923371
3 int post
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>>483923405
you can have her psychopathic bpd pussy
I will have my psychopathic bpd dollpussy instead
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LOREHEADS

EXPLAIN THE RANDOM CAVE FULL OF SCARLET ROT AND KINDRED IN RAUH RIGHT FUCKING NOWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>have weapon with sheath in right hand
>have one or zero things in left slots
>two hand the "nothing" in left slot
>weapon goes into sheath
>adventure vibes increase
Kino is served
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>>483923503
bpd is not a bad thing
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>>483923532
Haven't seen it, isn't real
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>>483923074
on my current character, 50 because i have enough str for a greatshield
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summoning people seems to often make fights harder as the people you summon often don't carry their weight.
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>>483923345
the red wolf a radagon?
i can help if you want to summon
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>>483923428
I have beaten him exclusively on torrent, never witnessed his issues.
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>>483923561
massive cope but ok
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>find rot dropkick ash
>slap it on my Blood Bloodfiend's Arm because whatever I just mash R2 anyways
>can rot bosses by pressing L2 a few times on top of the bleed rape
lol, it looks so funny too
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Help to make a build around these?
>Lordsworn Straight Sword
>Brass Shield
I like to parry, sometimes do guard counter, but usually in exploring. I have been using Bleed, specifically Bloody Slash, lord of Blood, and Rotten Winged. I don't know what to do from here, even though I'm technically in a late game.
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>>483923532
You mean that cave before the rot boss?
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Made this list for the base game. Anything similar to this in the DLC other than Stone Golems patting slimes and shadow people in grief at Belurat's graveyard?
>>483923196
>>483922820
Thank you.
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>>483923597
Okay? That doesn't mean said issues don't exist my man.
>>483923532
Bro finish the damn game.
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Thinking of switching to dex/faith to use messmer's spear, what are some other good dex/faith weapons.
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>>483923740
anything with lightning infusion
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>>483923532
ONCE UPON A TIME ROMINA'S TOWN/CHURCH/VILLAGE WAS BURNED DOWN BY MESSMER, THE FELL GOD OF ROT SENT A BUD WHICH SHE FOUND AND PROCEEDED TO USE, THE ROT SPREADS VIA HER FOLLOWERS AND SCORPIONS I GUESS.
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>>483923532
That's Romina's new domain. As for why she is protecting the fucking tree is the actual question I'd like to know.
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>>483923595
Ps5?
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>>483923561
the dlc it is with how the ai will 180 mid combo
also pray the fucking host actually collected fragments
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Decided to replay the whole game on a new character to prepare for the DLC, which I havent even bought yet. Is it weird that I was able to summon an NPC after the area boss was defeated solo? Black Blade Kindred boss might have been my cleanest fight yet, I only took damage twice. I remember it being way harder my first time around.
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A real frenzied flame player would burn Melina and then engulf the the rest of the world in fire too.
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>>483923734
What I am saying is the fight is designed around torrent.
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only just realised bayle uses his tail to support himself because of the missing leg
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>>483923836
i don't think she's protecting the tree, i think the tree just happens to be next to her home - the church where she is inventing scarlet rot in >>483919852
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>inappropriate activity detected right as I get summoned
what the fuck
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>>483923740
I'm not sure what your build is, but I am;
>40 Dex / 60 Faith
Messmer RP build.

I don't use anything else when I fight players, but when I'm doing PVE;
>Treespear
>Wave of Piss
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>>483923926
No fight should be designed around forcing you to use Torrent. It should be an option like spirit ashes for example.
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>>483923905
you got gud
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>>483923876
ah, sorry anon im PC, the best opening for it is the little 3 hit combo, and when hit starts spamming spells try to roll into them so they dont hit you after the roll
it dies pretty fast and can stagger easily though
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Could you use the Elden Rings to make every woman have massive boobs?
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>>483922258
I'm not going excited for any future games.
They have all the money they could need and they just made an empty world filled with reused enemies everywhere with unfun bosses.
I don't get fun exploration, they fucked up the lore, and I didn't get fun fights.
They are dead to me until they can prove themselves again
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>>483924068
Yeah my problem is I’m mentally handicapped plus only like level 30 with an axe that’s slow as hell. Thanks though
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Are great katanas actually good? Slow + no hyper armor sounds like a bad combo.
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>>483922258
You'll get Armored Core 7 first and you'll fucking love it you whore.
I'll love it too.
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what is the best infusion for the swift spear? bleed or poison?
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I wonder how much of a menace Midra would become if we weren't right there to put him down
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>>483924076
yes since there is no one controlling it you can do whatever you want once you become elden lord
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These load times are murder
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>>483924049
>you got gud
Or maybe its just that I decided to use a shield + guard break this time
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>>483924117
They're long and have lots of pokes.
Think about them as heavier heavy thrusting swords with bleed rather than katanas.
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>>483923740
You could try the Barbed Staff-Spear, the Ash of War also applies bleed from range (though I guess it's more Faith than Dex).
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>>483924014
Why do you only want to roll??
it's not even a bulid issue, everyone can ride torrent for free.
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>>483923561
I tried throwing down my sign for Lion to see if I could get a few extra Rune Arcs: a host with two phantoms gives so much fucking health to the boss, it's insane.
No longer easy mode.
Invading, on the other hand, remains total hell.
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>>483921946

she hates the elden ring, which 'commands the stars' aka the ayyliens which includes herself. my theory is that she used her influence to orchestrate a coup against the elden ring, oust it, and become the elden ring herself within marika's erdtree.
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>>483924172
>>483924076
Why isn't this one of the endings?
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>>483922772
>you don't really need this
Scrubbing imps off of the ceiling makes dungeons a lot less annoying
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>Messmer beheaded every statue of Marika except the one in his room.
NOBODY GETS TO LOOK AT MOMMY BUT ME.
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>>483924076
Probably. You could get them pregnant too.
>>483924110
>Armored Core VI gets armor customization, good performance, "NG+ changes", ultrawide support
>None of those get added in Elden Ring
>One of the biggest complaints is the reused assets
>You find the same 4-5 enemies everywhere, repeated bosses in the base game also return again
Ugh...
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>Bayle has 4 gapclosers
>One is a jump to the sky electric slam. Easy to dodge, good punish, okay damage if failed
>One is an arm thrust, super easy to dodge, high damage if failed, massive punish window
>One is a biting electric charge. Super high damage, low but still worthwhile punish zone, hard to dodge
>One is a nigh impossible to dodge charge into a spinning tailswipe that covers half the arena in Bayle's flailing body and doesn't give a chance to punish

Genuinely what is with this balance
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tree spirit suck just as bad as in the base game, why the fuck do they keep making me fight them. out of everything they could reuse why this
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>>483924173
PS4?
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>>483922396
if you actually want the full experience, start with demon's souls.
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>go to coliseum
>asshole spams me with sleep arrows and backhand spam
>put my own on and out spam him and kill him
>sends me a friend add on Steam because I have DMs disabled and probably wants to REEEE at me
no way fag, don't be a bitch
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>>483924313
guardcounters absolutely shit on imps, there's a couple normal weapon skills listed on the list for a reason, upgrade a straightsword or something. they aren't especially strong to elements either and if you're prioritizing faith you will be oneshotting them with a charged black flame.
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Floating skulls, bug or invisible path? No messages on the ground to help me so I come to you guys
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>>483924376
>Marika choosing a Tarnished as Elden Lord?
>NOOOO
Messmer has serious issues.
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>>483924405
I think two tree sentinels next to each other was the funniest part.
You also see how lazy they are with field bosses considering almost everyone is now surrounded by enemies
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>>483923614
In the base game sure, in the DLC it's often not worth it to summon unless you're summoning people you know.
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>>483924547
throw a shiny rock
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>>483924547
your prism stones?
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I have 3 characters. One I beat the game with and 2 others that are near the end of the game. I have no fucking clue what is going on as it has been 2 years. I don't remember what quests I need to do where or what I was trying to do with one of the characters. I have rivers of blood on one guy and I read it's no longer good. That was an arcane faith type guy.

I want to delete them all with 300 combined hours and just start fresh. Ugh.
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>>483924547
invisible path

>>483924561
tree sentinels are just there for lore since they guard marika's home village
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Honestly not the worst boss in the DLC, that remains dancing lion, but definitely kinda annoying. Always felt like it was slightly out of reach while still being able to hit me. The only attack I really hated is the frontal frost flame attack though it comes out REALLY fast.
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>>483924610
>>483924612
Forgot about them, haven't needed one since the sewers. Thanks.
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>>483924547
You're not a true Souls player until you jump off cliffs just to see if you'll live.
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>>483922796
Had they given some ashes of war to crossbows and ballistae it might've helped out in choosing it over the cannons.
Imagine something as shitty as sky shot on a bow, but now on a weapon that can shoot explosive greatbolts for indirect mortar fire. It would've been something at least.
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kino
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>a thousand year voyage under the wisdom of the moon
>people actually still believe it's not an outergod
You know why Ranni did not need to become a god? Because she was a vessel for one.
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>gaius' GF he's guarding has his pants
what did they mean by this
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>>483924708
>Honestly not the worst boss in the DLC, that remains dancing lion
uh oh
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>>483924803
game is so damn beautiful
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The wiki says that Midra is weak to bleed, but earlier, I slapped some blood grease on the Backhand Blades and turned on the beyblade right at the start of the fight proper, and didn't get a bleed proc.
Is Fextra full of shit once again?
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>>483924819
No shit its an outer god, every god that isn't golden is an outer god.
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>>483924850
Dancing lion is actually just shit, unless you mean I haven't reached the worst boss yet.
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IT'S OUR BOOOOOOOI
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>>483924708
i don't like this guy, he's kinda neat but not fun at all to fight
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>>483924920
Oh anon it gets much worse
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>>483924892
i dunno about "weak" but he has about as much bleed resist as a normal enemy wearing cloth, which isn't that much. bleed grease isn't that much bleed if your weapon doesn't already have it
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Now that invasions are literally unsalvageable did the system at least have a good run? Did you guys have at least some memorable moments?
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>>483924819
Ymir said that the moons were just rock without any celestial significance. GW created the cosmos and Lands Between. Closest things to gods in space are Astels.
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>>483924819
The "vessel" line is specifically tailored to the Mohg/ Radahn situation.
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>>483924547
Shit dude I got totally spoilered on that the moment I got near.
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"Not fun to fight" describes every boss in the DLC. Relanna and midra are only liked for the spectacle.
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>>483924561
>tibia mariner that summons royal revenants
>fallingstar beast
>3-4 tree spirits
>death rite bird
>3 drakes + 1 ancient dragon
>demi-human queen *marigga*
>3 ghostflame dragons
>8 furnace golems
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>>483925038
embracing the anime was a mistake
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Ah, I see why Thiollier is in love now. I don't blame him
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>>483924439
Yepper
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>>483924708
>that remains dancing lion
Dancing lion is fun, learn how to roll forward.
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>you can two-hand the Clawmark Seal and it will boost your incantations
My boulders will grow stronger
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>>483924376
Isn’t that the one with her holding a boy?
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>>483925038
what do you mean?
the invader died, nothing of value was lost
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>>483920024
She didn't fuse with anything, she became it. The game is full of things that are transfigured into other things through divine influence.
>"smithing was once considered a divine art"
>trolls and normal people hanging out in the mines turn to stone
>normal people hanging out in the glintstone mines turn to glintstone
>Azur and Lusat get too involved with the primeval current, turn to glintstone
>the fire giants and trolls worship the Fell God
>the Fell God manifests itself in their chests (and the trolls' bodies being transfigured into branches and roots probably has a connection to their betrayal of the Fell God for the Golden Order)
>Godwyn's corpse propagating endlessly and manifesting on crabs
>everything involving the Crucible
I'm sure there are more examples that I can't remember off hand, but this is just how the world of Elden Ring works on a metaphysical level. I'm not trying to be pedantic when I say that it's strange that this still seems to be poorly understood two years after the game's release, with all the loretubers running around.

She became a centipede because centipedes are a symbol of corruption and evil, broadly speaking, and because it's an homage to FromSoft's long tradition of insect-ladies.
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>>483924819
>Because she was a vessel for one.
So my tarnished is impregnating an actual god for every hour of every day.
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>483925092
>Relanna
>Spectacle
Throwing two moons at a motherfucker is cool and all but Sulyvahn still did it better.
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>>483925093
At least the golams are unique.
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>>483925038
DaS3 was unironically the peak for invasions, despite initial impressions being very, very poor.
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>>483924829
He’s an Albinauric, he doesn’t have legs.
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who was that dark souls streamer or wahtever guy everyone used to say dung eater's face was based on
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>scrape every inch of the map
>level 18 scad at radahn's door
HOW ARE THERE STILL MORE OUT THERE
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>>483924954
Go fight him lol he's a fun one
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>>483925038
it's so over

>>483925276
distortion?
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>>483925226
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>>483925038
>spends the first 5 seconds going into his menu for some retarded reason
he deserved to get ganked
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I don't even want to beat the final boss. This isn't fun. Should I just quit? I've never quit a From game before, but then again none of them have had a final boss this shitty.
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>>483918671
soldier of GODrick
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>>483925226
>3v3 fights in gank city
My most played souls game because of one area.
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>walk through a doorway
>surprise it's an ambush
Can someone tell Miyazaki that got old in DS3? I swear the DLC went overboard with that shit.
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>>483925037
>bleed grease isn't that much bleed if your weapon doesn't already have it
I was thinking that.
Might need to slap the grease on my Double Slash Uchi.
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>>483925226
>DaS3
it's DS3 bro
>>483925280
overleveled
>>483925331
>>>483925276
>distortion?
yes, thanks
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>>483925280
Some of them are hidden in really really retarded locations that makes them impossible to find without a guide.
>>483925341
Just perfume cheese it for the rewards and never do it again.
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Miquella could've easily been a girl and done all this heart charming stuff. I think Miyazaki might actually be gay
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are there ANY new good merchants or bell bearings to buy shit from? I feel like the npcs in the dlc are dogshit all around

- can we buy infinite max upgrade stones?
- can be buy infinite larval tears?
- can we buy infinite rune arcs?

if not,fuck it, gonna mod this shit

>>483925280
idk what they were thinking not giving us some excess frags. just pushign people to go to ng+ or use some shitty guide, even tho they said in an interview they dont want people relying on guides...
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>>483924954
Wait til he summons
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>>483924920
>unless you mean I haven't reached the worst boss yet.
If the reason you hated the Dancing Lion is because you felt like you were fighting the camera and particle effects instead of a boss, then you haven't seen the worst of it yet.
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>>483923687
There was a group of Messmer soldiers just after the bridge in the big huge camp they have there, like 3 or 4, they were all checkin' each others swords out, like holding them out for each other to see. I sat there and watched them for a minute or so, it was pretty cool, just a few bros chillin comparing swords and shit.
Then I killed them.
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>>483925038
>wasting precious i-frames on hardswapping your fucking helmet
And you're telling me this is a Twitch streamer? Yeah, I believe it

Anyways, the DLC changes nothing for me because I like to invade from 20-80 and enjoy killing password phantoms
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>>483925038
>people just standing around spamming long animations at someone with invincibility
Those are literally a free kill for for even mediocre invaders.
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>>483925038
>all that re-equipping
For what fucking purpose
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>find a second dancing lion
>okay that's kind of a lazy copy paste but I guess it's kinda cool to rematch him for a sense of scale on how much more powerful I've gotten since the beginning of th-OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
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>>483925226
ds3 is a horrible game and I'm glad I don't have to come back to it
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>>483925479
idk bro have you played danganronpa
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>>483925487
You can now buy toxic mushrooms, string and root resin
>>483925550
>they were all checkin' each others swords out
Gay
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>enter shadow keep
>find hidden ladder and waterfall, take a tombstone down
>defeat two furnace golems and keep going
>go all the way down the cliff
>find a bunch of flies and even their village, keep going
>now find a catacombs, there's a back exit
>now in abyssal woods
Jesus it just keeps going and going
This is some DS1/DS2 type stuff
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>>483925092
i enjoyed the uhhhhh flower. and in retrospect, once i realized i can just wait out the lightning phase, lion wasn't too bad.
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whats with the hate on these? i get that theyre empty but why cant they be? why does everything have to be brimming with content?

its not like its entirely useless either, you literally get a top 5 talisman in the entire game for blowing the first one and a top 20 for the second, i fail to see why you would complain about doing this as the crimson seed talisman+1 is a universal talisman good on all builds except for if ur doing a no hit obv, and it works towards a remembrance boss.

Sure you don't get rewarded IN THE AREA but you get rewarded for doing the quest with several spells, weapons, remembrance boss, some of the best talismans in the game and armor.

Do people just complain about everything with this game? This issue is so blown out of proportion, people have a fucking stroke when a area doesn't have 50 bosses in it. The main reason I replay this game more than something like bloodborne is in bloodborne I have to do bloodstarved beast, in elden ring, I can just fucking skip it.
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>>483925341
cheese it with perfumes or something
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>>483924954
I actually wish this one was in the base game, because by the time of the DLC I was more than prepared to fuck up a Revenant.
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>i get that theyre empty but why cant they be? why does everything have to be brimming with content?
Bait
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>>483925341
Nigga just cheese bosses you don’t like to fight.
I started doing this shit when I realized I will still hate the fight even if I memorized the boss movesets
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>>483925532
Yes that's exactly why I disliked dancing lion. Great to know.
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>>483925332
Much as I hate him for being a gigantic faggot, Saint_Riot taught me to invade, but those lessons don't apply in ER.
No turn n burn, no viable jack-of-all-trades build type outside of Stormveil invasions.
Sad.
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>>483925589
hehehhehhhehee
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>>483925589
That fight made me genuinely laugh out loud.
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>>483925626
this is 4chan so yes
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>>483925446
It's DaS3, and always will be.
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>>483925626
You went through cerulean area which is already empty. Then, you went here, and it’s another empty area.
Empty area can be done, but don’t make it continuous.
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>>483925605
>I'll explore this area first and then head to this one
>4 hours later and I remember about it
First playthrough is too good.
>>483925626
The new finger (?) enemies are boring as fuck to fight and the area itself looks ugly, specially compared to everything else.
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>>483925626
I was disappointed they didn't have much in them except fucking AIDS snake fuckers, but it was aesthetically pleasing, just a huge WTF area of Fingers implying a civilization or something.
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i hate stored l1s
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The pvp peaked in ds2.
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>>483925113
lips can drive everyman crazy
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>>483924954
YAAAAAAASS I HECKIN LOVE FIGHTING THE SAME ENEMIES OVER AND OVER AGAIN EVEN IN THE DLC THAT TOOK TWO YEARS TO BE MADE PLEASE TAKE A GIANT SHIT INSIDE MY MOUTH MIYAZAKI SAMAAAAAAAA
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>>483925841
>>>483925446 (You)
>It's DaS3, and always will be.
never has been, never will be
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>>483925858
they are lampreys, people who tried to turn themselves into fingers
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Ranni ending - Marika crumbles away, no longer required, replaced with the outergod of the moon/darkmoon. Ranni did nothing to become a god, as we have witnessed through miquella, we basically have definitive proof of this now that she 100% is giving control to an outergod.
Lord of chaos ending - Marika crumbles away, no longer required, replace with the lord of frenzy, who is only able to burn everything away with access to the ring.
All the other endings - Marika is utilized for your choice of the ring, as having a god is REQUIRED, Marika is still the god of the chosen age.
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>>483925626
>Beat Ancient Dragon Man
>Get a forked path
>One path goes up to an empty mountain
>Other goes to a red area
>It's empty aside from reused bosses
>You can go to a blue area from the red area
>It's empty
>You can go to the finger area from the blue area
>It's empty
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>>483925626
They could have put in some basic things like acouple of invaders around them or something unique to such a huge area. Everyone that goes there without knowing will explore a huge tract of land and find nothing for it. At least there are rememberance duplicators but you probably find them very quickly before actually exploring the ruins.

It'd be so easy to just have a little content in there, something. A catacomb, invaders, ghosts with lines, anything.
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>>483925487
Did you find the Moldmonger's Bell Bearing?
Kino stuff.
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>Mohg was brainwashed
>Ansbach was brainwashed
So was Varre, the surgeons, Okina and Eleanora brainwashed by Miquella into being blood crazed freaks?
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>>483925891
It's a good smile. Would kiss. Would love to try and make her smile more.
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>>483925762
average 4chan users

>There is too much open space

>Its a open world game

>B-B-BUT WHAT??? OPEN WORLD? WHATS THAT? THE OPEN WORLD IS OPEN? MUST BE BAD GAME DESIGN

>Just don't play it then

>NO! IT NEEDS TO FIT MY EXACT NEEDS OR ITS A BAD GAME! SOMETHING SOMETHING SHITTY BOSS DESIGN SOMETHING

I don't get it, these people are constantly saying this shit about the game but then when you ask them then just don't play it they just go "I don't"

SO WHY ARE YOU ON THE BOARD?
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>>483925994
nah that was just their thing
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>>483925889
Where do I get the infinite use red eye orb in ds2?
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>>483925626
Because if you are going to do an empty area with only the location being the highlight of the journey it needs to be super fucking impactful.

Sure, eventually it LEADS to a really cool fight, but there needed to be more than "toot horn, leave"
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>>483925226
We'll never reach those highs ever again, will we? God, just imagine how kino it would have been to have faction covenants that turned legacy dungeons into warzones. People allying with the Carians and protecting the school as Carian Knights, coming to an accord with Morgott (or replacing him) and becoming wardens of Lleyndell, Recusants working like purple phantoms and turning Volcano Manor into a free-for-all. It would have been glorious carnage.
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What's Thiollier's "weary of life" option? Just another game over like Trina's?
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>>483925626
>It doesn't have to have content ok???? just watch the movie i mean game
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>>483926092
it lets you get a quest item you can roofie the dragon priestess with to get her spell and summon
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>>483925626
They wanted more open world slop (caves, catacombs, mines) even though when it was the base game, people were complaining about every environment feeling like an artificial excuse to populate the world with open world slop (caves, catacombs, mines).
My thought process was just:
>Wow, this is cool
>Oh, there's nothing here except a cookbook, a remembrance shrine, crafting materials for consumables, and some mysterious thing I can't interact with
>Now that I understand this, I can't just enjoy the atmosphere
Which is exactly what I did with the second ruin.

>>483925854
Cerulean Coast has
>a dragon (boring)
>a small open world section full of demi-humans, a couple cool INT weapons, an a scadutree fragment
>a mausoleum boss
>a legacy dungeon with a remembrance boss (the fissure)
>the upper area (Charos' Hidden Grave) is technically part of Cerulean Coast, like the lower and upper levels of Rauh are two halves of the same area
>a deathbird (boring)
>another cool INT weapon
>scadutree fragments from a hippo
>a gaol dungeon
The "Cerulean Coast is empty" meme needs to end.
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>Elden Ring DLC is blatantly unfinished and lacking in polish, no interactions between it and the base game, no new endings, no new mechanics, etc.
>B&W adds a proper conclusion and send off to Geralt’s story, multiple different endings for the DLC, base game acknowledges the DLC’s existence, adds new mutations system, adds dying to armor, adds dozens of new quests, new enemies, and things to do
>SotE costs $40, B&W costs $20
There is no way anyone with a functioning brain thinks SotE is actually better than B&W.
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>>483925881
This isn't a no blessing run. Nice try, though.
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>>483926030
This complaint is not being said only on 4chan. Sorry.
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>>483926076
Damn, now I'm sad.
All because From had to cater to the fags who can't deal with the bad red man.
Or just play offline.
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>>483926076
I am extremely disappointed the entire Great Rune Holders weren't all covenants that you could align with. The entire thing is perfect for it.
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>>483925945
>get mad when its empty
>get mad when its not when they reuse bosses

high levels of autism on this one

lets have unique bosses everywhere! free recess for everyone! billions of dollars for everyone! no more homework!!!

these are childish wants and anyone with half a brain would understand.
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>>483925626
There is next to nothing there, like literally nothing. They are these cool mysterious ruins that you see from afar and wonder exactly what are they like considering the type of stuff they are related to and they are almost entirely empty, like literally just a few crafting items on the floor here and there. There are times when it's okay to do something like that like what they did with marika's village but no 2 giant interesting looking ruins that are huge.
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>>483926092
Gives you some sleep poison that is deadly to any regular mortal. Only known interaction is with the dragon priestess to get her as an ash summon.
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>>483925226
YOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>483925689
It'd be so fucking easy to just zoom out the damn camera for fights like that, it's just baffling that we're like seven games into this formula and it's still a problem.
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>>483925287
>>483925508
>>483925674
I just loved seeing Boatboi again, but no worries about the Revenant. I brought the cannon imp (LOVE THIS LIL' NIGGA LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE) and that fucker both stunned him and tanked the revenant while I shank Boaty.
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Shadow of the Erdtree is the result of giving From too much slack.
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how do you dodge the bayle attack where he charges forward into another charge into a tailswipe
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Miquella, I've come to bargain
MIQUELLA
UNDODGEABLE ATTACK, GUARANTEED CHIP DAMAGE
I'VE COME TO BARGAIN
NO ENDLAG PUNISH
MIQUELLA
LIGHT SHOW YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH
CLONES
I'VE COME
5 FRAME ATTACK 3 TIMES IN A ROW
TO BARGAIN
MIQUELLA
DECIDING TO NOT FLY INTO THE AIR FOR NUKE
MIQUELLA
VISUAL CLUTTER
I'VE
10 CLONES PER ATTACK
COME TO BARGAIN
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>>483926273
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>>483919152
radahn is an unfair fight.

almost everyone that beats him uses op builds or shield + thrusting.
>muh no hit players
yeah, some people are very good at games; that doesn't mean much for the majority.
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>>483926101
shut the fuck up aoko. Mahoyo was a movie, not a game. There weren’t any choices to make.
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>>483926030
One thing that does really bother me about the Open World aspect is the lack of details that sell that people used to live there. No desolate farms, no outhouses, no proper villages, just dungeons and the world itself is laid out like a dungeon.
And the villages that do exist could only support like a family or two.
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>>483926273
NIGGERSLAYER was really sweating in this one.
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>>483926237
it is though. look at how much damage i take from one swing
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>>483926371
2 well timed circle presses
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Can frenzy make a good invasion build?
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this is honestly a fun fight, music is on point too
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>>483926330
And the fags in this thread eat it up anyway, so fromsoft will pull this shit again.
Remember when fucking lost Izalith got shit on?
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>>483925626
I hate them because neither of them had a lamprey-man spirit ash I could use.
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idk why people are so butthurt about the finger ruins, abyssal woods, and even jagged peak. each of these areas was clearly an experiment in open world design, and while 2/3 were disappointing, it at least shows a willingness on fromsoft's part to do something other than
>hey here's a big open field full of random shit, have fun
this gets extremely tiring by the time you reach the altus in the base game, because you know exactly what to expect from every area: more of the same. i personally thought that ancient ruins of rauh was a great experiment in open world design that evolves mt. gelmir's semi-linear design into something that feels like a massive dungeon where you can use torrent. jagged peak is also fantastic, with the exception of the ancient dragon being un-fun to fight and ruining the build-up to bayle.

anyways, the flaws with abyssal woods and the finger ruins are obvious, so i won't go into them.
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>>483926273
now this is gameplay
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>>483926458
It's because you're not taking enough damage that I can tell this isn't 0 blessings.
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>>483926490
it was broken before the dlc came out
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>>483924236
invading in catacomb areas is easy rune arcs even if you dont sweat out for it
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>can't summon Ranni and have her piggyback on us for an Elden Lord and God chicken fight
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>>483926502
You would probably beat it if you were not some cunt that took pictures of their tv with their cellphone.
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do you think this level of NPC interaction will continue
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>>483926502
I really like second phase music
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Been chilling around level 30, helping people on early coop up to Leyndell trying out bunch of the new DLC weapons and armour, very relaxing. After getting assblasted by Radahn it feels kind of nice to fight good ol' honest Godrick and other greatest hits like the Moonveil tunnel wyrm that loves squashing 300 hp hosts with his Tigrex charge times three.
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>inapropriate activity detective
>returning to main menu
>start_protected_game.exe (ELDEN RING) stopped responding
nice EAC there steam
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>>483926259
Marika's village?
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>>483926628
it's literally a screenshot
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>>483926623
I would have accepted Radahn if that was the substitute. That would’ve been so kino
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>>483926272
The dancer set is pure sexo. I guess I'll make a character using Godskin Swaddling Cloth + Crimson-Sapping Cracked Tear.
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>always loved playing as a greatshield tank in these games, even when they were shit like in DS3
>people just think I'm a cheesefag now
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>>483926619
Might have to do it in Darklight for a laugh, then.
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>>483926674
I think they did something in the latest update, it has given me false positives twice and kicked me out
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>>483926628
>sociopath doesn't know what dithering is

>>483926649
... what level? the NPCs aren't any deeper than what fromsoft has done before. a second playthrough really illuminates the flaws with how they do things, especially when you're playing errand boy in the middle of the leta, ansbach, and freya triangle in shadow keep.
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>>483926684
you can find her home village in the DLC, it's small and empty except for 2 items that give some lore.
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STOP summoning me at radahn at level fucking 8 i BEG
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>>483926721
sauce
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>>483925626
The ruins were 100% going to be some 2 finger alien DLC that expanded on the base game's lore but then they were told to just focus on Miquella because everyone wanted twink dick, so they just reused the assets for some random ass questline that didn't even contribute to the DLC plot
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Dumb question but are there any other swords besides Star-Lined and Blasphemous that glow red or blue and do beams, I'm trying to cosplay The Monado but with Incantations as Arts
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>>483926649
No, we'll never get anything as kino as that NPC boss fight again. And to be real, Ansbach carried most of the emotional weight of that moment.
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>>483923368
I like the idea of Miquella recruiting Leda to his elite order of handpicked Needle Knights, and then discovering that she's murdered every single one of them, and he has to brainwash her to stop murdering all his other forces

She'd have gone after Malenia I bet
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>>483926556
Jagged Peak being a build up for a boss fight is very impressive. And considering how much people love Igon I would say it worked.
>>483926672
Your tarnished looks good.
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>>483926030
Play more open world games.
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>>483926721
Post the source, already.
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>>483926628
the fuck are you talking about mentally ill retard
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>spend hours assembling everything for an invasion build
>it's complete irredeemable dog shit because i forgot every single invasion has at least 1 person spamming ridiculously OP L2s / magic
haha WHOOPS, SILLY ME
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Here's how you fix the Finger Ruins
>Have the center locked by some strange contraption
>In front of it is a yellow item pickup that's a fragment of a carving, with more scattered around the ruins
>Carvings tell the story of a girl getting lost amidst the ruins and eventually finding something horrific
>Fight a miniboss version of a giant fingercreeper
>Toot horn

>Shaman Village is under the same lock
>Do the same thing again
>Toot horn
>You now have access to Shaman village
>You learn the girl finding all of the weird finger shit was Marika after doing the second one
>Return to Ymir
>Fight Finger Mother fresh off finding out that Marika made contact with this thing and it's what kicked off the plot.

It's not that fucking hard. It doesn't need a trillion dev hours to have some nerd write a lock and key system for a barrier.
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>bayle just deciding he's not going to have any openings today and instantly cancels every recovery into another move that puts his head up out of reach.
Fucking hate this dragon
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>>483926672
What is this armor
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>>483926556
Jagged peak is kino because it's direct and culminates with one of the best fights from has ever done.
Abyssal woods would be nearly as fucking kino if it did not have side paths that were 100% useless clearly cut content.
Finger ruins needed to be a fight to access the horn.

This is not experimentation, this should be fucking obvious to anyone that's played a fucking video game.
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>>483926935
No you don't get it bro you can just soak int he scenery that's enough reward you will NOT ask for content
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>>483923976
Why dont we just walk around or ask her nicely if we can pass through
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>>483926649
felt really sad that they all end up killing each other
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>>483926854
MLGS
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>been using shitty coomer armor on my character for the whole game
>decide to wear the heaviest and best armor while fighting radahn to see if I can survive shit better
>still dying in 2/3 hits same as before
What even is the point of armor in these games anymore?
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>>483926649
The actual quest steps are quite messy and easy to break/miss, but the conclusion is pretty fucking rad
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>>483926814
>>483926913
https://x.com/picco__/status/1806013557274038347
There's a cock. Hope you guys don't mind.
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>>483926556
Finger ruins leads to great questline though. Loved the two finger-bossfights and all the Ymir saga.
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>>483926761
I meant that they talk to each other
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>>483926918
you deserve nothing good anyways
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How the fuck do people climb jagged peak in co op without torrent? is it even possible to summon people there?
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>>483926490
lol
Madness was already OP as fuck and they just added a ton of support to it.
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are either of the bayle spells good?
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>>483927007
Abyssal woods definitely could have either been 50% smaller. Also the winter lanterns should have been truly unkillable until you beat Midra or maybe if you use Nanaya's torch on them to "burn away" the protection, because parrying them is just such a lame way to do it.
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>>483927119
More irritated by the dark-skinned_male.
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>>483927209
just for this i'm going back on my frenzy / golden crux build and 1-shotting some nerds. you did this.
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>>483927110
Armor is next to meaningless other than maybe a 10% damage reduction if you are lucky, and poise, it's all about the talismans and buffs.
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>>483927234
no
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>>483917212
Okay why the FUCK did we never get Miriel's turtle Pope hat??? We got a whole ass Pope set in Dark Souls 2
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>>483927220
you cant summon there
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>>483926273
twink gayness is twink gayness no matter what. anor londo and ringed city clusterfucks were the shit
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>>483926556
Finger ruins is annoying because you spent an hours looking for every corners to find anything like skibidi fragments, and then you find another area with the same shit.
If this shit wasn’t back to back, I wouldn’t mind it that much.
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>>483926891
Thank you kindly
>>483926994
Pelt of Ralva, Iron Rivet Armor, Iron Rivet Gauntlets and Rotten Duelist Greaves which you can't see but feels like they go nicely with it
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>>483925041
he didn't say that.

he just said the moon is basically insignificant considering the vastness of space. the moon is just a moon, no matter if it's a god and gives powers.
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>>483927110
actual heavy armor matters
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So there really, REALLY, REALLLY AND TRULy is no change in anything the base game has when you finish the DLC completely?
Not even a Sif-tier change?
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>>483927110
Scadutree Fragments increase your damage res, so using heavy armor is literally pointless. It doesn't increase a lot. Same as using things like Opaline Hardtear.
>>483927240
I refuse to parry the Winter Lanterns. I refuse to learn how to parry them.
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>>483927119
even better
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>>483927343
no
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>>483926842
What the hell do you mean, you literally got Astel 2 bossfight out of the bells.
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>>483927234
>are .. spells good?
no
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>>483927240
Freeing torrent from being skurred after midra was dead would have been nice as well, but would have made the cut content even more obvious.
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>>483927110
Armored only ever mattered in DS2
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>>483927234
Tyranny is worthless, full stop. Flame Lightning does very good damage and is kind of like a baby between Dragonclaw and Dragonmaw but it has some issues.
>Poor hitbox, smaller than dragonmaw and seems to be kinda buggy sometimes in not hitting when it visibly should
>Lacks infinite HA like Dragonmaw
Like I said it hits really hard though, high risk/medium reward. Neither is very worth it right now but until they get buffed Flame Lightning is the only decent one.
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Hmmm, I'm a bit of a pickle, I want to talk some sense into that giant golem over there but I can't find my way up despite walking round the place a couple times. Any tips?
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>>483927302
Isn't that hat reused for Miriel?
>>483927404
G A Y
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>>483927438
did you forget that you can literally facetank at least half the game with havels in ds1
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>>483927478
you gotta wind all the way around to near the boss, then there's a lift that goes up to it
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>>483927314
The real fucked up thing is one finger ruin actually does have some shit, but it's just the gesture and a mausoleum.
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>>483927493
I guess but it was literally Havel's & Dusk Crown that were the only important gear
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>>483927406
You got a single bossfight in exchange for 1/4th of the map's area being empty plains with some snakes. Them putting in what was probably the penultimate boss of an alien DLC into this one instead to reuse the asset isn't much
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>>483927470
Flame Lightning also has the benefit of borrowing Dragonclaw's chaincast recovery cancel despite not being a combo spell, so it's basically unpunishable and has very low recovery in practice.
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>>483927234
>>483927470
>>Poor hitbox, smaller than dragonmaw
Meant smaller than dragonclaw.
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>>483927478
There's a whole fucking interior area dedicated to approaching that golem and then the lift to actually get you up is extremely well hidden.
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>>483927240
Abyssal Woods stealth section should have just been a part of the manse.
>beat Jori
>erase the open world section of Abyssal woods off the fucking map
>make it a short path leading up to the manse on one side, the church of Marika on the other
>still put 1 or 2 winter lanterns on the former path
>enter manse
>do 1st half
>exit into inner manse courtyard
>it's a hedge maze full of winter lanterns
>re-enter manse
>do 2nd half
Would have been much more enjoyable, it didn't need to be so fucking massive especially considering you can't use Torrent.
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>>483927580
it was havels until they nerfed dark wood grain ring, then giant dad
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>>483927604
Yeah but the hitbox is screwy as fuck and you can get knocked out of the wind-up VERY easily. It needs more HA and the hitbox fixed at minimum. Tyranny though? Awful, worthless. Needs a massive buff.
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>>483926649
i really liked it
ansbach was a homey

i wish this game had covenants and he went on to be the leader of the mohg covenant post surviving the dlc

npcs having dialogue during boss fights its great
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>>483927470
>mfw both the bayle incantations are kinda fucking garbage
I don't know how they managed to fuck that up so badly.

God this dlc is such a fucking let down in the weirdest most easily fixed ways.
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>>483927705
i liked having it in the woods and the first time i did it was great. but they should have a way for you to allow you to use torrent
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>>483926030
>>NO! IT NEEDS TO FIT MY EXACT NEEDS OR ITS A BAD GAME!
Yes. At the very least it's worse than it could've been.
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>>483927685
Do I have to tell whoever's behind this fog what I think of him to get to the golem?
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>>483927585
There's two bossfights though, both good.
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>>483924708
He is not that bad, his wombo combo only becomes an issue if you are too close into his face and horse is funny to dodge, otherwise he has bunch of attacks like double ground slam that give you free punish with anything, he isn't too hard to stagger even with milady and his main gimick is constantly circling around you, also I already forgot but at least one of his slam attack will do nothing to you if you end up in front of his face, did him at 5 skibidis. My main complaints would go to that circular flame attack because it's off camera and you just need to know at a moment's notice.
>that remains dancing lion
Opinion discarded, he is the only boss so far besides Rellana that is both epic grandeur anime fight and isn't an aids to fight, fucking hippo is dogshit aids running around and hugging his ass at all times because you can do jack shit in front of him due to FUCKING INSTANT bite attack and now he starts fucking shitting his motherfucking quills everywhere yeah, so fun to fight what a fucking retarded boss at least Putrescence circles around you to go in, not dashing and shitting crap everywhere oh shitaidsrape fat fuck hippo dashed into the corner guess what you can't sniff his fucking asshole so you are not doing shit.
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>>483927760
fix radahn being shoehorned in
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>>483927760
Bro just wait for the first balance patch before screaming the sky is falling
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I got summoned to the dlc before beating Mohg and when I reloaded the game later it spawned me in the manse and now I can skip that whole section but can't open the door from the inside, I had to beat Mohg to be able to swap back over to the dlc map though
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>>483927760
most spells from makes are shit, it was actually a fucking miracle that they buffed most of the bad ones, sometimes twice, in the year after release instead of just ignoring them forever
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Can invaders turn off areas they can invade? Like how coopers can turn off areas?
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>>483918425
So were the Omens the result of the Hornsent cursing Marika and whatever she stood for, or are the Omens and Hornsent the same thing
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I already killed gaius, where do I fight his reskin "boar rider" boss?
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>>483927849
no
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>>483927907
No :)

Invaders get literally nothing, fuck you
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>>483925626
Making a large area that contains nothing in it is bad design you fucking retard
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>>483927896
Can't you do wrongwarp shenanigans to get out?
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>>483927907
>Invaders ever getting anything good with nu-From appealing to casuals more than ever
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>>483927760
I'm just enjoying perfumes being busted after desperately wanting to play a perfumer build since the game's release.
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>>483927937
same thing
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>>483927937
Same thing. Marika calls them Omens as a slur because she fucking hates them and had them imprisoned and tortured. She's racist against them for what they did to her people.
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Is this any good? Seem interesting, but kinda slowly.
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>>483927980
More riding around the place it is then
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>>483927896
I died against a boss where i raged alt f4'd and went to bed.
The next day i loaded back in and the game had me outside the boss gate for a boss i had not even seen yet that was miles away from the boss i had been fighting.

Dlc has some weird shit.
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how much does ng+ scaling affect the dlc? is it a noticable enough difference or just about the same
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>>483928069
anon don't take pictures while you're drunk
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anons please I'm losing fucking hope the new carian AoW is slow as shit all my spells are too slow to cast I'm really starting to feel like the only way to fucking play this game is to grab the DMGS and hope frost + Stagger deals with every boss
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>>483928219
>>483928219
>>483928219
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>>483928001
>>483927981
damn...
What about crucible tongue and centaur, where can I find those?
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>>483927907
that's pretty funny anon
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>>483928045
>>483928057
So where the fuck did they come from, really, if they had their own relatively stable city/society in the shadow realm before Marika became the top bitch of the world
>dude curse lmao
Who cast the curse
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>>483928252
uh oh...
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>>483928045
How are they the same thing when two of her kids are omens and are fathered by Godfrey?
She couldn't have been being raped by that point in the story
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>>483927760
It's because both spells are just lazy recycling of existing spells.
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>>483928252
Fromsoftware is a company filled with bastards who hate any and all frogbros
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>>483928069
anon, i think you are having a stroke
please call a medical professional
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>>483927907
Turning off where you co-op turns off invading there too.
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Okay, now this is a based message. All the retards dropping but holes and snakes around every hole and ladder are fags.
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>>483928263
Hornsent cursed Marika which is why all her kids are omens or fucked in other ways
>>483928215
Int spells suck compared to just smacking them with a weapon
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>>483927425
Being able to summon Torrent there wouldn't fit the lore they wrote.
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>>483928263
It's not a curse, it's a gift from the Crucible. All children have a small chance of being born as hornsent. That's why they have crazy crucible powers.
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Lion's Claw made the Messmer fight a complete joke
You guys complain about nothing
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>fight messmer 15 times
>get him to 70% once
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>483928889
i see very few complaints about messmer
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>>483929045
>>483928915
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>>483929134
thats not someone complaining
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>>483928889
>Lion's Claw made the X fight a complete joke

No shit its one of the most busted ashes of war lmao
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>>483926865
I didn't get his fucking letter and he disappeared now, is his questline completely broken or I just miss some shield and can continue with him?
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>>483926273
The fuck is this?
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>>483929243
then... why do all people seethe, cry and cope with SotE bosses in this general?
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>>483927705
The worst part is that the Abyssal Woods have some extremely good loot, namely the frenzy pot cookbook (which doesn't require limited materials) but it's so little in such a massive area that it's a pain in the ass to find,
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>>483923178
Radahn is fine. Gaius has some weird hit boxes, I agree, but it's basically the same as all of the rhino-type bosses.
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literally the only problem with abyssal woods is that it doesnt have enough enemy encounters. they could've easily tucked away a couple of bosses out there, too.
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>>483926273
this type of gameplay is so fucking retarded both visually and in terms of the actual experience itself
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>>483927110
Just wear mid armour and the drake/holy +3. If you can survive 3 full hits and like 6 chip hits you'll be fine.
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>>483927705
That would have been cool, I would have also been happier with the woods being windier and denser. If it was half the size with double the pathways and double the winter lanterns that would have been better.
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>>483924708
>Honestly not the worst boss in the DLC, that remains dancing lion
You mean Bayle
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>>483934543
I actually didn't hate bayle. He suffers from the same bullshit camera that every other dragon fight does but he gets a pass because he's not that hard, is a huge spectacle, and igon is shouting his lungs out through the first part of it. Dancing lion's track is fucking killer but the fight is way shittier.
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>>483922472
what's the point you're trying to make?
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what's the most fun melee build?
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>>483936215
I think he's trying to show that they used the "enemy right around a corner" gimmick a whole fucking bunch in the dlc. I do agree with his point a bit since it's more impactful when it's used a bit more sparingly.



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