Our HEROES edition>Latest patchhttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122>Main information documenthttps://rentry.org/erpasta>Character plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>Interactive maphttps://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between>Group passworderg>Grafted>>483917013
I'm at miquella's fog gate and I don't even wanna go in because of how much everyone says it sucksI just wanna NG+ with dane's footwork
hate playing mage in the dlc it's so dogshit no spells workit's just DMGS
Do the dragon and omen forms stay when you invade someone? Or do you have to reapply them in the host world?
>>483928149i got absolutely bootyblasted on ng+7 until i had 10 skibidis and even then you take significantly more damage than base game and enemies all have thousands of extra hp
I am Radahn, Consort of Miquella.
post em
Onahole of Miquella
Ranni ending - Marika crumbles away, no longer required, replaced with the outergod of the moon/darkmoon. Ranni did nothing to become a god, as we have witnessed through miquella, we basically have definitive proof of this now that she 100% is giving control to an outergod.Lord of chaos ending - Marika crumbles away, no longer required, replace with the lord of frenzy, who is only able to burn everything away with access to the ring.All the other endings - Marika is utilized for your choice of the ring, as having a god is REQUIRED, Marika is still the god of the chosen age.>but metyr said the moon is just a rockNo, you special ed fuck. Metyr said it was just the closest celestial body, in comparison to the greater will, it was insignificant, which all the outer gods really fucking are unless they have access to the eldenring.
>>483928435should've been mohg, radahn is just a mega-asspull
>>483928401i regret doing the dlc on NG+7
>get to the leda fight>only have thollier and some blood dude on my sidewait so if i did everyones quest, could we just gangbang leda 7v1
>Base Radahn fight is fun and very memorable>DLC Radahn is a disaster, hard for the sake of being hard and one of the worst bosses ever madeWhy would they ruin his legacy like this?
>>483928520Mr president, a second radahn just hit the towers
>>483928581i let myself use spirit summons so it was pretty chill except radahn who is fucking stupid
>>483928582Dearest Leda should be yours and yours alone
>>483928581me too but the victory lap when I figured out radahn was pretty great and a satisfying end
>>483928471>Hornsent cursed Marika which is why all her kids are omens or fucked in other waysYes but where did the Hornsent themselves come from, why are they fucked up with horns, who SENT them??>>483928586>It's not a curse, it's a gift from the Crucible.The what now
>upper level key>use it>leads to a path only leading to the lower level
>>483928590bro, your perfumer bottles?
>>483928632Fleeting Microcosm is amazing, Cannon of Haima is utterly replaced.
>>483928582It's Leda & Dryleaf guaranteed, Moore if you tell him not to off himself, Hornsent if you don't let him help you kill Messmer, Freyja if you give her Ansbach's letter.You just get Thiollier & Ansbach.
I'm buying the Radahncoin dip
>>483928649>why are they fucked up with hornsthe crucible
>>483928694you can use cannon from horseback otherwise it's totally obsolete
Uh oh.
>Be invading in Abyssal woods>See a pair of people trying to sneak by the Winter Lanterns>Sneaking up behind them in the grass>Use the Lamentation prattling pete next to them>Host panic rolls away, ally tries to fight me>By now the host got bad touched by the Lantern while I was fightingI don't think I've ever killed someone by jumpscaring them in one of these games.
>>483928637shes too cute under the helmet, is there a way to avoid her fight?
>>483928632wow backblades look dumb as fuck>>483928674yeah, from the upper level
>>483928649>the CrucibleThe two theories are it's an older God before the golden order or it's simply the primordial life of the planet
>>483928767This guy is a fucking retard.
Can you not get that spell the sorcerers in the new catacombs use where they summon a bouncing nail at your feet?
>>483928767Loretubers have been debunked hard with this DLC, why even trust them?
>>483928219My murderous wife…
>>483928767How is giving Radahn space AIDS and having him die a slow excruciating death while he loses his mind part of a plan involving a 'mutual' vow?What a fucking retard.
>>483928219...and godwyn
>>483928923nope. you can't get the other catacomb spell either that shoots out projectiles that then return to you
>>483928863Everyone agrees that the war makes no sense with how things stand now Man is only Radahn was part of Miquella's lore at any point or if any boss talked
>>483928932>use her to kindle the flame>then join the frenzied flameget rekt
>>483928932Leda is the new murderhobo
>>483928937angry gays who aren't the target audience are influencing a man who can't even accurate vomit out content correctlyRetard is an understatement
>>483928834The age of the crucible was the form the eldenring took before the golden order and the age of the erdtree. It's basically like setting the rules for how the world works.
>>483928832>wow backblades look dumb as fuckDoesn't fit someone with heavy armour.>>483928863I mean, it is absurd to think that the "worst" fight of the Shattering is because of a promise. Or that Radahn was fine with fighting next to Sellia or a fight to death with his dumb horse. Or why would they fight with the goddess of rot in the first place when blooming is related to mental state.
Thoughts on hobofashion?
Hey /erg/, guess which boss I am:YABBA DABBA DOO!!!
Why did Radahn and Malenia fight now that DLC is out?
>>483928992Thats what I did on my first save
>>483928976fugFinger spells are the coolest new shit and I'm mad we're only getting a handful of them.
so has giant crusher been topped in stam damage at all?
>>483929132You look like those little dudes from Star Wars
Keeping my daterape-addicted dragonwaif Florissax drugged and pregnant like a good mate.
Are there any new sword/melee sorceries in the dlc?
>>483929052>straightoid trying to cope that his epic wholesome horse gravity magic man willingly wanted to be miquella's consort>and probably was taking advantage of miquella being naieve to use him for his own endsradahn is the bad guymiquella did nothing wrong, he loved his brother and thought his brother loved him.>>483929084it's someone holding a sword upside down, it looks dumb no matter what you're wearing
>hefy pots can hit through wallsoh shit
>>483929132It's peak
>>483927387Very based. Cock does makes things better.
>>483928832Backblades and blind spot carry. Doesn't matter if they look dumb.
Is there something about boner village that I'm missing? There's just some hefty pots and greater potatoes with cleavers trying to kill me.
>>483929427you gay?
>>483928590the fight was cool until miquella piggybacks him and starts a laser lightshow with every sword swing
I fully expect the PVP section of the inevitable patch notes to be on line that just says, "Fuck it, we give up."
>>483929132Hornsets rags is the best hoborags we've ever gotten in any souls games. Better than the retainer robes from DaS2 imo
>>483929316>using words like straightoid to make an argument that what Miquella was doing wasn't mind controlled gay incest and was all above board BUT because lol lmaoGo back
>>483929316>brainwashing mogh>turning radahn into a glorified meat puppet>brainwashing his own followers>discarding his kindness, st Trina and everything else>brainwashingMiquella is the worst and most evil demigod.
If you want to know how the "age of the crucible" works, the dlc content for dragon communion basically gives you the general idea.Although any retard that things the crucible is referring to a literal fucking smithing crucible needs to go drown in a lake. >a place or situation in which concentrated forces interact to cause or influence change or developmentDragon communion is dragons using mortals to purge lesser dragons deemed unworthy to exist. If you got your bitch ass heart eaten by some mortal fuck, you did not deserve to exist. Adapt and overcome or die. Perfection is created through constant conflict to create something new and better. Funnily enough, Marika says basically the same fucking thing to her own children.
>>483929427Indeed
>>483928767radahn is basically a doll at this point; remade into a consort for a psychopath.there's nothing mutual about it.
>promise me, you become my consort>noHow do you like the war in caelid?
Finally, now to have a word with the man uhhhh rock thing himself
>>483929467You get a gesture too
>>483929515Nah it'll be more dogshit that completely invalidates some setups because fuck you we love poise and also failing to address the broken shit
>>483929275Anvil Hammer comes close, but no
>Hefty Fetid Pots>Hefty Frenzied Pots - useless in PvEBut no Hefty Holy Pot? For what fucking purpose? I want to nuke undead bosses.>>483929515Next Fromsoft game will have built in Seamless Co-op and PvP will be exclusive to arenas. If they feel generous they give you 1-2 invasion areas and a boss fight. Would probably be better than Elden Ring multiplayer, to be honest.
>>483928649the horns sent them retard
>>483929467try gesture>>483929607Thanks GRRM, I hate it
>>483929550he wasn'tradahn willingly agreed to be miquella's consort>>483929573mohg is an omen, not a person>discarding his kindness, st Trina and everything elseyeah shit writing
>>483928694not even close, the advantage of the canon is blind aimit's possible that mass of putrescence is better, but the stats are wonky
>>483929529I was surprised that it has almost complete skin coverage (unless looking up from below). Very good for filthy ragman shenanigans.
>>483929467You need to find a gesture to unlock a secret area in shadow keep
why in the second phase he's called based serpent Mesmer?
>>483929623>>483929748Where? I don't see it.
What's the point of the lamenter transform?
>>483929681>he wasn'tPost your evidence, because getting suicided bombed by Malenia and having your brain rot out of your skull sure doesn't seem like it
>it's a 'host hangs back and throws flings basic incantations at the boss that do maybe 150 damage a pop while using you as a meatshield' episode
>*mogs your beast claws*
I did a first attempt on Bayle and I ended up killing him, but I'm an idiot and I forgot to summon Igon. It's over for me, isn't it?
>>483929779Because he told Marika to fuck off.>Schizo theories about his fucking real life statue not having eyes actually ended up being true
>incest faggots are the final boss>trannies and gays are upset
>>483929316>abandoning Malenia to succumb to her rot>abandoning haligtree and refugees>abandoning his attempt to finish off GodwynMiquella is a fucking failure who deserve to die.
>>483929880You didn't struggle and you didn't hear some nice dialogue. Yet the spectacle of his fight is ruined and won't feel the same anymore. Yes, it's over.
I feel very heavily like that this person is at thw wrong place
>>483929805he accepted the vow and agreed to uphold it>getting suicided bombed by Malenia and having your brain rot out of your skullshitty writing
>>483929880No you can go to where he was and get his shit
This Rennala of the Full Moon fight is not so fun as a pure melee character. Having to repeat the gimmick first phase over and over again also sours the deal
>>483930029
>>483929779It's a bad translation.He is just evil/wicked serpent in Japanese.
>>483929779Because From knew he was the most based boss in the entire DLC.
How in the fuck are people in the 100s and still sub 60 vigor? I try to help noobs and they all get 2 shot by everything. I don't think most of them even have 40.
>>483930029I don't know where the fuck he even went. Shot Bayle once at the start, then showed up later just to GRAAAAAGH
What's the verdict?
Uh oh. What did you do, Miyazaki?
>>483930120who's this semen demen
>>483930076>he accepted the vowSays who? Post your evidence.>well you see this has to be shitty writing because it ruins my head canon>mfw
>>483929972u just don't understand the struggle of being a gay bottom trying to find a boyfriend while your faghag sister complains about her stds all day long>>483930163>How in the fuck are people in the 100s and still sub 60 vigorbecause not everyone is a scrub who needs to pump vigor because they can't dodge right
>>483930212it's hilarious because jon snow is still dead in the books
>>483930263>because not everyone is a scrub who needs to pump vigor because they can't dodge rightWell apparently they need to, because they are1) summoning me to help them2) getting fucking two shot by everything because they can't dodge
>>483930212I don't know, revived Radahn is just a mind controlled puppet so he's no different than Lady Stoneheart
Guys at From just couldn't fucking help themselves, even made it deathblight flavored too.
>>483930353At least you can use your horsey
But really what is the appeal of this piece of shit?>TERRIBLE scaling>looks ugly>shit AoW>stupid thrusting sword moveset>cannot be infused >uses somber smithing stones>can't parry>I repeat, TERRIBLE scalingThe Blue Flame and Demon's Scar are rolling in their graves right now
>>483928632man what this fuck is this build?
>>483930163If they're not looking up build guides, then probably pure ignorance combined with not understanding that Elden Ring has a vigor tax. They won't feel they need it until they do.
Through blood, sweat, tears and shield poking I have finally earned the right to bear arms at just level 67.Now for Ralva's pelt
>>483930218im not digging through all the voicelines, the game literally says radahn agrees to the vowprove where he says he doesn't
>>483928520Post what
the story trailer is so good, band of the hawk meets knights of the grail
>>483930448>im gonna make baseless claims without evidence on hand so that when I am challenged im gonna just be buttmad
>>483930353I honestly just laughed at the audacity of it. Like not JUST spewing it around, but actually popping out basilisks too is peak Fromsoft comedy. I'm still shocked we didn't get a deathblight swamp, I thought for sure that's what I was walking into when I got to the base of the Scadutree.
>>483930409>>stupid thrusting sword movesethey thrusting swords are fun
>>483930441>completely outclassed by heavy beast claws buffed with Bloodflame BladeWhy does this weapon exist?
>>483930353Fighting this on horse and owning it first try made me realize how poorly designed it is.
>>483928219did messmer like godwyn
>>483930079I found it, but I can't seem to get the arrows that go with his Greatbow. Is that what I missed?
>>483930403Gaius time it is, probably going to be a paint to it with some extra mobility and no I-frames, but not a lot of bosses let me use it after getting the set so late.
>>483928520Okay...?
>>483930101It's fun when you use deflect tear
RADAHN IS KILLING ME IN 10 SECONDS I CAN'T EVEN GET A HIT IN LET ALONE PHASE 2
>>483930353>go down there>try and fight it "honorabu">obviously die to fucking deathblight once the basiliks show up too>sit up the top and shoot it with my Greatbow until it dies>the basilisks just spawn out of thin air and drop down on top of you from the ledge it cant get you inActually retarded design. What a load of shit. Left a negative review for this alone. This DLC was originally a lot of fun. I enjoyed it a lot. But this one single part was so fucking bad I was amazed how it even got through.
>>483930834>20 vigor
>stuck on gaius for 2 days>get stoned>no buffs, no summons >kill him on the first try todaywhy am i like this
>Have killed all the bosses in the base game at this point>Find Shaman Village>read the lore more>start to genuinely feel bad for Marika>don't want to fight her last living child>don't want to deprive the world of her warmth>don't have a choice but do it because for a RPG this game sure lacks the RP>mfw
>>483929316>miquella brainwashes malenia to go off and nuke radahn and a continent because radahn turned down miqulla>brainwash mogh to get you into the land of shadows and be a body for radahn's "soul">brainwash basically everyone you come into contact with to like you>this is for your own ends by the way, since you show that your sister doesn't mean shit to you because you sent her off to fight the strongest demigod because you felt rejected>enact your plan, leading to countless people sacrificed by mogh, who is under your spell the entire time; all of the bad shit he did was because of you>remake radahn into a literal puppet, because there's no fucking way he'd accept you now if he didn't in the past>>he shred anything left of his humanity, so EVERYTHING is about him now, 100% selfish>he's totally the good guyi bet you thought he wasn't a manipulative piece of shit prior to the dlc.
>I am forgotten.>Even my snake gimmick was stolen.>Even my "Golden Order affiliated character that later on turns against them" was stolen.>I will never be as famous as my freaky wife or my cute daughter.>My fate is ultimately being a gimmick boss.
>>48393086160 vigor, medium armor, dragoncrest talisman, 18 skibs
Why was Marika the only one able to use the gate of divinity to become a god?
>>483930890>>483930890>i bet you thought he wasn't a manipulative piece of shit prior to the dlc.no he was clearly manipulativebutradahn was into it
Is there a good scadu fragment map out there?
I finally did itI unequiped radagons soresealI didn't realize much more damage it made me takeOops
>>483930834First phase is free, use sekiro (deflecting) tear and just free block it all.
>>483930874this is the way it's gotta be, anon. the flame of ambition.
>>483930874>fromsoft>rpg
>>483930890>brainwashes everyone, even outer god powered demigods>doesn't brainwash radahn>only to turn him into a puppet after reviving him???
Just ran in to this bug. The double "Bonny Gaol" wouldn't stop popping up until I quit out and reloaded, too. Super goofy
Why is Nanaya's Torch better than the embodiment of a Lord of the Frenzied Flame made manifest?
>>483930956Miquella also uses it.
>finally in Enir-Ilimi don't want it to be over right nowi'm feeling sad bros
Replaying Elsen Ring for the first time since release.I'm really enjoying it, it's super fun. I wonder why I really hated it by the end the first time through...
>>483931020I'm not using a shield
>>483931040I put a sign there for people too, its an interesting one for sure.
Whats the best thrusting dagger to use Bloodhound step with?
>>483931072qrd?
>>483930353>go fight to fuck him up>phase change>damn, this is different>fucking basilisks>starts spewing death blight everywhereactually the funniest part of the DLC, the whole thing was a trap to fuck with you
>>483929840>Use rock heart>Equip occult beast claws and blue dancer charm>Mog your shitty furry claws
>>483931096Ok, but why couldn't anyone else?
>>483929310Furious Blade of Ansbach thought it's an incantation
>>483930609To look cool and bait retards like me into rushing it.>>483931135The pacing falls apart after Morgott and you get a big damage spike in Mountaintops.
>>483931112It's far from over because the final boss will take you 30 hours
>>483928932malina isn't murderous; her wanting to kill the frenzy lord is basically collective self-defense.
>>483930409>>looks uglyDogshit taste
>>483931020Do you need Greatshield Talisman if you're using a colossal sword?
>>483931204What makes you think no one else has?There were other gods before Marika.
>We get St Trina (forma de flower) instead of this hot babeFUCK Miquella
>>483931209>tfw missed it>tfw can't drop spellsI wish I wasn't scared of CE
>>483931209I haven't seen it yet, is it good?
>using miquella's needle makes the grab insta-kill
>>483931251I remember beating everything pretty handidly though, even Malenia. Only boss I had issues with was (hilariously) Radagon.
>>483931007gj nonny!
>>483931209I hate that you have to beat Radahn to get this. I want to play through the fucking game with it but because it's an incant I can't even fucking mule it. It's not even fucking good, just fun.
Guess I'm gonna do STR/FTH, what should my splits be if I am for 150?
>>483928520cobbled this together recently
>>483931137Unless you're a masochist going for a no hit run I'd recommend it. Sekiro tear can also be used with 2h weapons or the backhand blade if you're a gamer. It blocks all damage if you do it right.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZAYk-G3wUU
Is the DMGS still king of INT weapons?
The Radahn fight is the future of this shit series. Autists can beat Melania at RL1 with a broken straight sword and a pot on their head, so From feels inclined to keep increasing the challenge.
>>483931490minimum fth for the spells you wantas much str as you can fituse the beast claw seal
>>483931153This thing, found in Midra's Manse, can basically proc madness continuously on opponents through dodging. Meanwhile Midra's Flame of Frenzy, the incantation obtained by beating the boss of that area, is just a much much worse version of an existing base game incantation, Unendurable Frenzy.
>ghostflame dragon outside moorth highway south>Only way to play is to not play for like 15 minutes while it kills all the fucking mooks>you don't even get souls for it10/10
are there any good normal 1h swords/maces in the DLC that don't need int/faith/arcana?
Fun weapons for a 50/50 Fth/Dex build.I'm using Messmer's Spear but I want something lighter.
>>483931323If you time hardtear blocks correctly you lose like 5 stamina per hit, no talisman needed.The buff lasts for 5 whole minutes by the way, so its not like you lose it last second.
Now that the dust has settled. Is the dlc worth buying?
>>483928520Aight
I'm trying the lightning perfume bottles but it's so hard to find an opening to use rolling sparksthe bosses just jump around too much
>>483931072Its the head and spine of a pygmy lord of frenzied flame
That was stupid, let us never talk about it again.
>>483931618M'lady
>>483931547well there's zero new int weapons so yes
Does anyone know where I need to go through to get to this area?
>>483931642yeah, just quit before the final boss
>randomly see a phantom in fire prelates, the purple flower helm, the Dancing Blade of Ranah and a manly face being a general faggot with the AoW
>>483931642If you liked Elden Ring.
>>483931135end game bosses rely on fucking with you in ways that are just fucking not funrandom delays meant to rollcatchawkward floaty jumps that are hard to predictlong attack strings leaving few openingstoo many particle effects making it hard to tell what the fuck is happeningetc
>>483931493death knight armor is so fucking good. i only wish that there were more helmets with the same shade of gold.
>>483931614you can fight with them, they're like summons but with a downside where they can hit you too, honestly it's kind of fun being in a 3 way fight. same with the 2 dragons fighting each other on jagged peak.
>>483931686I wish this was an Ash of War instead of an incantation.
>>483931584Its unfortunately true, DLCs often give a "glimpse" into what they are thinking for the next installment.This is the first time they've gotten any real blow back (enough for miyazaki to publicly comment on twice) though, so maybe they go a different direction.
About to start my 2nd playthrough of the dlc. Will I break any npc quests by rushing Rellana? I want that sword/armor.
>>483931634vyke war spear
>>483931783>you can fight with themNo, the archers target you. Also, the hammer dudes will reck your shit with AOE
>>483928520post fucking what?
>>483931724>light greatsword
>>483931740Going back to fighting a Fallingstar Beast in the DLC is weird. The difference in design is so glaring
>>483931729There's a fake wall after a ladder before entering the archives in Shadow keep, after that just follow the the only path forward.
>>483928520This DLC is so good for fashion. It really filled a lot of the holes in the base game.
>>483931584waterfowl is literally the only unfair thing about malenia, her moveset is actually quite fair and reactableradahn is way too much dude he never fucking stops and has almost zero punish window
>>483930890>headcanon>headcanon>headcanoni bet you thought he wasn't a [headcanon] piece of [headcanon] prior to the [headcanon]
>>483931882em
>>483931603if you activate the Celebrant's Sickle death blight buff, it transfers to the bursts of firehave fun before it gets patched lmao
>>483931783I just wish the black knights weren't faggots that swapped priority to you constantly even if you don't attack them. Still a neat encounter though, I wish there were more like it in the base game.>>483931851No quests should break unless you reach the Shadow Keep (or try to pass north of it on the X-axis of the map on either side of it).
>>483931618There are a couple curved swords and greatswords. No plain hammers as far as I remember. The light greatsword Milady is also without any magic requirement.
>>483931851No, you only break stuff if you get close to the shadow keep and trigger Miquella breaking his great rune
>>483931634Perfumes, specially fire, madness and lightning.
Is death lightning any good in invasions?
>>483930353I thought this was the funniest shit too. It’s so on-the-nose.
>>483931729Storehouse first floor bonfire, take the elevator back down, theres a little "lip" near the area when you do the leda/hornset invasion or a ladder to get down below.Go on like a 5 hour adventure and eventually you get there.
>>483931729from a secret passage in shadow keep, that leads to an area that will eventually take you there if you follow it long enough.>>483931879it's how I did it, I just killed the archer since they don't like switching aggro and then tried to stay on the side opposite of the knights.
>>483931485It is good though. That being said - CE.
Day 8 since the DLC came out.Radownies are still coping about unstated mind control rather than reading the text stating that he's an incestuous gay pedophilic retard.
>>483929084>Or why would they fight with the goddess of rot in the first place when blooming is related to mental state.I completely forgot about this part, indeed what the FUCK were they thinking.
I killed the guy on the horse but I don't have the stats to use his halberd.
>>483931547Yup, still is. I wish it were a more fun weapon. Like sorceries in general, it has a very functional, but boring animation set (why couldn't it have at least used the claymore or fancy greatsword anims), and using it optimally where you just beam spam the enemy is extremely functional, but boring as well. The Bloodborne version was way better in my opinion. Hell, the DaS3 version was better just because of its animations.
>>483931980Celebrants sickle death blight buff?? wtf
>>483931980You mean the Eclipse Shotel? Did they seriously break that fucker again?
>>483931783The messmer goons fighting the dragon start targeting you if you get close enough
>>483932016Properly built it will oneshot anyone caught in it but the rng lightning spread means that sometimes it will just whiff on people standing in it.
>>483932116Tree sentinel?
Wait, what the fuck Skibidis don't give extra spell buff to catalysts? Holy shit what a retarded oversight
>>483932107>doesn't post the textshow us what im supposed to read
>>483932016Deathblight is a meme that only ever worked that one time with the self immolation bug. Even then it was easy to deal with.
>>483932184magic builds have never been loved in elden ring
>>483931547No, a cold carian thrusting shield mogs it.
>>483932119Bloodborne's guiding moonlight was probably the most fun weapon in the game.
>>483932162>>483932159yeah yeah the eclipse thing, my mistake
how long did it take you guys to farm the fire knight greatsword
>>483928520My dingy gold fire / madness knight man
>>483931603I get the impression they wanted Midra's spell to be like the frenzy eye tower that builds up frenzy just by having LoS, and then they downgraded it to a fucking Unendurable Frenzy sidegrade for balance reasons.
>>483932084I'm a console loser, it's over for me anon.
>>483932184They don't? Do they do nothing for the actual damage of spells either?
>>483932189>"Miquella spoke of the vow he made WITH General Radahn...">"If we fulfill OURT PART of the vow...">Miquella is wearing an engagement ring in the flashback >Boss name: Promised Consort Radahn
>>483932267it took me about 12 kills with fitty arc and silver scarab
>>483932267Pretty sure one of the knights drops it guaranteed.
i feel bad for the cleanrot knights, they've been rendered irrelevant
>>483932116Welcome to souls games.>Get cool boss weapon>Can't use itYou will repeat this process for the next 70 hours.
>>483932190I used 2 eclipse shotels for great results but that was like a year ago, not sure if anything's changed since then.
>>483931980E V I L !
>in front of Radahn's boss door>skibidi lvl 19 and none to spareWell 19 it is then, I am not a nerd who has logged each I've picked up so going through the whole damn map a second time is out of the question.
>>483932293RIP in peace>>48393226710 minutes
>>483932264The throwing shield also does that and it's pretty much impossible to dodge.
>>483932308greentext isn't evidence retard
seems literally impossible to kill the ancient dragon while locking onended up just standing around under him near his back legs trying to read whatever telegraphs he would show but the fight was brutal
>>483926883Malenia should've defeated her and her crew in a duel, spared them, but then spanked her, that'd straighten her out.
>>483932362Good, I hate semi-bug lesbians except for their swords.
After playing the DLC I think it's canon to do the Shadow of the Erdtree before you fight the fire giant or even go to the Haligtree.
>>483932362They were irrelevant since release, maybe they could've avoided that fate if their in game armor was as cool as it looked in the reveal trailer instead of whatever trash we actually got.
Is there any reason to get the DLC if you're playing the first time?
>edgelord set acquiredThis place is pretty fucked, I always feel bad killing the pots but considering they're who knows how many people shoved inside turning in to a fucked up amalgamation of flesh it's probably for the best that they die. I'm also assuming these obnoxious balls of flesh are what's inside the pots, too.
Suggestions for a divine beast themed build? Storms sound fun.
>>483932545Wait and see if you like it after beating the game and all the remembrances.
>>483932278That looks fucking sick. Never thought I'd say Radahns Chest Armor looks cool.
>>483932445I accept your concession.
>>483932264>>483931980>It's realFucking kek, how does this keep happening? I swear the Eclipse Shotel has done this several other times they had to patch out.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcaz0cYc8Tg
Messmer's spear is kinda mid
>>483932582farm the Helm (not the boss drop) for the build.
>>483932569Pots in Lands Between are different from the ones in Land of Shadow
Faith anons, how did you all beat Radahn and his boytoy?
>>483932545You can look like Big Dick No Feet Gaius while battling the final boss atop your trusty not a boar.
>seeing the phantoms at radahn>literally everyone is heavy shieldembarrassing
>>483932447Sennesax is a fucking nigger and the only way to kill it without losing your sanity is to just ride around in circles slowing chipping it down since it will just mindlessly walk at you. I just did that while spamming arrows at it.
>>483928390they stay
Is there still good pvp at 200?
>>483932107Isn't turning people into gay pedophile retards part of his power?
>>483932489I mean, chronologically you can do Mohg right after Radahn so at best you could have done everything except fought Morgott
>>483932362I get that Malenia would attack Caelid no matter what reason her brother had for asking her since she is pretty much his lapdog. But I seriously wonder how she convinced her knights to join given the absurdity of the reasoning.
post webms
>>483932679Really? Why are they different?
>>483929802bump
>>483932308radahn obviously reneged on the deal otherwise there never would have been the fight with malenia. the little faggot miquella decided to go full borderline on everyone because he was rejected.
>>483932668Yeah I got the smaller helm and armor already, wasn’t too hard to farm.I’m already running STR/FAI, so it shouldn’t be too hard.What loadout?
>>483932545Not really no, its end game content. You should at least beat everything up to mohg (the real one) then get it if you like it. Which like, 40 hours of game time.
>>483932652Thats the wrong fucking finger you dumb retard lmaoNice going stupid
>I want to be glistening with life!>we have glistening life at homethe glistening life at home:
>>483932661>Free ranged explosive R2s>High damage wacky anime combo L2>Can shield poke and is a heavy weapon for huge poise damage>midShit taste.
>>483932690Black blade followed by black flame followed by black blade followed by black flame and you get how it goes, spice it up with a couple of golden vows along the way.
>>483932569you should get the black knight mace to complete the sauron look
>>483932918why does miyazaki never make penis monsters?there are penis monsters in berserk
why is Igon so loved but nobody talks about Moore?isn't he the same type of NPC that male gamers tend to love?
>>483932582All the storm ashes are great so you can't really go wrong. The divine beast mask gives great stat bonuses too. I figure you'd be using both the Alexander Shard and the Enraged Divine Beast for that +25% to wind ashes. It also works with the Zamor Curved Sword.
>>483932904>doesn't know Orthodox rites>didn't pay attention to Ranni's hand in the ending Exposed. Kill yourself, faggot
>>483932918The fingussy...
Honestly fuck that they put these stupid things around every other corner. Did they play lords of the fallen or something? That was so bad in that game that it was almost a fucking joke.
>>483932708I used the golden dorito, my beloved.
>>483932569I think that's my favorite new set, it's unapologetically edgy
>>483932994Flat character, doesn’t really do much besides get depressed.Meanwhile Igon’s psychotic Ahab energy is infectious, helped by a stellar VA performance.
>>483932972imagine putting your penis in thatimagine feeling the hundreds of finger-shaped parasites wriggling and gripping your cockimagine the feeling of them wripping up your urethra and burrowing into the flesh of your bladder.imagine these slowly maturing and erupting from your skin in wriggling masses of oozing sores
man i fucking suck at avoiding the meteorites and that's the one move that keeps cucking me every time
>>483932852It gives a bit of arcane, looks kinda cool if you're into it, mostly roleplay value.
what does Messmer want? he good or bad
>>483930956I wouldn't be surprised if the Hornsent built it as a throne and had someone sit there but could never activate it due none of people passing it were Empyrean.Marika does some victory lap and sits on their thrown, que ascension.
>>483932845Pots in Lands Between are used for honorable burials and are filled with corpses only while the ones in Land of Shadow are the fucked up ones
>>483932362They're not irrelevant, they're still the strongest knights of the Shattering who waged an undefeated cross continental campaign. All because they were utterly devoted to their lady. So sure are they in their devotion that they continue to BTFO the Redmane Knights in the afterlife.
>>483932994I killed one of the rot bugs and had to put him down super early in. What a fucking troll of a questline.
>>483932954That would be a fun meme run. Where do you get it? >>483933127I love stupid edgy stuff like this. It's just fun. >>483933190Ah, so same idea but different reasons? Why are some of the pots in the lands between hostile then? Is it the ritual that makes these ones different? They look the same.
>>483932773you cant get to mohg until after you kill morgott so this is bullshit because you need to kill the draconic tree sentinel to kill him anyway AND you have to kill the dude in castle sol for the stupid half of the medallion to take you to the consecrated snowfield where the portal to red siofra is
>>483933018That sounds like a fun weapon to try. Thanks anon!
>>483932918'glistening with life' just means 'full of fucking parasites', doesn't it?>>483933058I like how that shield's emblem looks like a hyper-simplified interpretation of the elden beast.
>>483932802
>>483933275>you cant get to mohg until after you kill morgottAll you need is two remembrances then you can do Varre's quest and teleport to Mohgwyn.I haven't beaten Morgott on this save and I'm in the DLC already.
>>483933142That VA was really fucking good, I expect an excellent performance when they bring him back for their next game.
>>483932994Literal retard Moore being in the party instead of a Cleanrot Knight as the designated Malenia rep is execrable writing.
>>483933152I beat radahn and STILL could not tell you how to avoid that move. Tried everything under the sun but eventually just gave up and tanked it.
>>483932652>>483933035>already wearing the ring in the cutscene>not even "married" yetIt not a wedding ring.
>>483933360>i havent beaten morgott yetbull shit let me see your rune page
>>483928520Never forget what the hornsent took from you.
>>483932994Moore and Ansbach are my favourites so far; have barely spoke to Igon.Thiollier also seems like a nice guy.
>suffer through shitty enemies/platforming>reward is a smithing stone (non-Ancient) or cookbook
>>483933275>you cant get to mohg until after you kill morgottonly offline retard, you can get to him super fast via online invasions
Can anyone recommend a 100% base Elden Ring mule save I can use?
>>483928580I mean it's also Mohg. It's a combination.
>>483933470dung!
>>483933146This is what Ymir faps to every night. Jesus Christ that was fucked.
>>483933275>you cant get to mohg until after you kill morgottwrong, you just need to do Varre's quest and he gives you the knight emblem that teleports you to Mohgwyn
>>483928219>having fun with Milady>try to jump off a ledge and drop attack something>straight up doesn't have a jump attackWhat the fuck
>>483933232A Redmane is in the DLC, a Cleanrot isn't
Wing Stance really should have just been on Milady from the start.
>>483933492even offline you can complete varre's quesline and get to mohg
>>483933379you're a braindead dullard who doesn't understand shit.
>>483933413>has never heard of an engagement ringKill yourself, faggot.
>>483933497I have a mule that is DLC ready and has everything including DLC gear.
>>483933492You can complete Varré's quest offline .
>>483933415>he didn't know>>483933492They added an NPC so you can do Varre's offline too.
>>483932954Does making your character more muscular noticeably change the set? I like it but I feel to faggy using it due to how thin my guy looks.
Why did Miquella even bother with charming Leda's band? They do absolutely nothing useful for him even before the rune breaks.
>everyone blindly spamming trying to summon for messmer>throw down a red sign and roll with 2x cracked tear shield/antspur build
>>483933170he literally is sitting in a dark chamber, wallowing in misery. he's not really doing anything at all, since mommy marika abandoned him. he just refuses to let a tarnished become elden lord because he sees it as insulting after he got disgraced and ditched for being a snek
>>483933271it’s a drop from the black knight at the church of consolation
>>483933537he has one of those wounds on his own stomach anon. under that robe. a glistening mass of life! isn't the greater will transcendent!
>>483933719got any webms?
>>483933658Source?
>>483929316Miquella literally has a move where he brainwashes you and the game treats it as a loss state, he knows what he's doing.
>>483933678It does for some armor, not sure about that particular set.
>>483933645>it has to be an engagement ring>Miquella is the one begging to Radahn for engagementNice evidence
>>483932783>ConvinceWhere Malenia goes, they follow.
>>483931547Yes, although still worse in the DLC because it gets stuffed by all the new bosses. But the FP talisman restores the entire cost just as the buff runs out, so it no-efforts the rest of the game.
>>483933683needed someone to drag mohg's corpse over to the gateway and to burn the tree
>>483933737He got ditched for having a snake friend?Either way he doesn't seem strong, I doubt he could've become an elden lord or god. He's just not Morgott/Radahn/Miquella/The aids girl
>>483933537I didn't get the Ymir questline at all. He wanted to usurp Metyr and even gave me a map of her location. Why is he angry I killed her, wasn't that what he wanted since she was broken?
>>483933750Oh, the huge one. Yea that'd be a good fit. I thought you meant a small one. Not quite sauron-y since it's not spiky but still.
>>483933492>>483933541>>483933613>>483933662>>483933665what the actual fuck man
>>483932994Moore doesn't really do anything and his inventory is kind of bland too. I felt bad killing him at the end until he started throwing rot pots at me, at which point I just came to hate him. Ansbach and Igon are the stars of the DLC and are possibly some of the best NPCs Fromsoft has ever made.
>>483933768>t. Dude Trust MeI made it, originally on 1.04, then used the latest TGA table to give me everything else, I needed to manually kill Mohg and Radahn though so it took a while
>>483932940How do you not die in two hits? I'm at max Scad level but cannot find the last 3 Revered Ashes for the life of me.
>>483933152Run horizontally and jump at the last second.
>>483933520He's 1% mohg, he gets one random blood move and thats it.
>>483933170he's a PTSD victim who was abandoned by his own mother. literally everything about him points to him being one of the kindest demigods.he is horrified by the thought of a tarnished lord because it's a complete and utter humiliation of everything he was forced to do by his mother.
>>483933815NTA but at no point is it begging. And that scene where he's wearing the ring isn't begging. You don't know english.
>>483932994Moore is in the very beginning and forgotten aboutIgon is late game tied to a great boss, and has a VA on the level of MY NAAAAAAAMEEEEEE
>>483933874>A malevolent snake writhed within Messmer, and so his very mother plucked out his eye and put in its place a seal of grace. Yet, having done so, her fear compelled her to secret away her child within the realm of shadow. Hidden away—keeping company with the original sin, and a hatred that would not be confined.
The Godlen Hippo fight is so bad.I almost killed this abomination twice but I couldn't get the riposte when I stood right next to it.Who playtested this garbage?
>find blessed blue dew talisman>message: seek skill, sorcererYou seek skill, nigga. I don't need skill anymore.
>>483933232>So sure are they in their devotion that they continue to BTFO the Redmane Knights in the afterlife.Then why are they hanging out in swamps and caves while the Redmanes still exist, control territory, and wage war against the rot?
>>483933683I feel like its an unintentional side effect, like a siren song being played through a loud speaker.
>>483933984>literally everything about him points to him being one of the kindest demigods.he's literally the biggest, craziest murderer in the entire elden ring universe, which is filled with mass genocide addicts
>>483933997>Radahn please be my consort>already is wearing the ring when asking (begging) for Radahn to be his consortbtw, no one was talking to you, fuck off
>>483934119So you are coping. Got it.
>>483934018poor messmer man, people shouldn't be locked up for having a snake pet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOyP6BAPbrM>Some indian stole anon's comic and made a shitty video with itSirs...>Captcha SARJ4
An invader should make it so you can't enter the boss arena,m
>>483934004Is Bayle meant to be that late? His area is pretty much to the right of the starting area.At least with Igon you can do it real early since he is so strong.
>>483934060the redmanes are 99% dead and only exists in two isolated forts with the roads between patrolled by centipedes.
>>483934167>cant refute>"no you're coping"ok homo
>>483933618Solid counter
>>483933683They should have kept the Eclipse plot and made it so that final slaughter before the end between the NPCs was to fuel some blood ritual to attain godhood and grant Godwyn a final death (and had Mohg's corpse be the channeling catalyst due to his connection to the Formless Mother, instead of all this Radahn horseshit).
>>483934186Fair attempt.
>>483934212You can fight just about any boss when you want but I found him late and even at skibidi 16 he was more of a challenge than all but Radahn
>>483932708I will continue doing 2H GS attempts for your sakeI'm honestly pretty close
>>483934101god literally told him to do it nigga
>>483934186the comic came from here? didn't know that>videotragic
>>483933053Putrescent Knight reminds me a lot of the Hushed Saint in LotF, and they have deflections and stuff in that game.
>>483934059It restores FP ridiculously slowly, it's worthless.
>>483934024It happened a third time but I got this nigger.I spit on my hand imagining spitting on the boss and his designer.
>>483934206>invades someone>mimic veils in the middle of nowherenah
I'm gonna make this build 5 times just so i can have1 frenzy guy1 lightning guy1 giant flame guy 1 blackflame guyand 1 scarlet aeonia and pink butterfly guy
I swear I always find the most useful talisman/ash of war after I'm 98% done with shit.
>>483934024I feel you. I just gave up and cheesed it. Messmer was actually easier than that abomination.
>>483934246So they're still holding territory and waging war against the rot while the cleanrots are bathing in muck like animals...?
>>483934365>40this is not dark souls 1the softcaps are at 55 now
>>483934024It's funny because the hippo was PISS easy for me but I got filtered super hard by Romina
>>483934336man that shit is ancient, yes it was from 4chan and it was a meme back in 2009 or so, at least the flash was up on /f/ on 2008-2009 so the comic was even older
>>483934287the eclipse isn't a literal eclipse though, it's some sort of communion with ayylmao.
>>483934186this is why i stopped making OC
>>483934186>indianhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjtavl_ByFYhe just sounds (and looks) like that much of a shut in faggot
>>483932994he and thiollier can be seen as a failure in the face of adversity, albeit thiollier has redemption. these are more feminine responses.ansbach, no matter the terrible things he went through, along with the aforementioned igon, are still stoic in the face of it all.hornsent and leda are both terrible people.
>>483934365post your frenzy chad build
>>483934434it's 40+radagon icon for max cast speed
>>483933959Good armor, 60 vigor, Erdtree's favor+2, Dragoncrest greatshield talisman, Spelldrake talisman +3, Golden Braid, golden vow. The chosen incantations work by percentage so the usual canvas talismans aren't necessary leaving 2 slots open for going all out on safety first kids. I don't summon so don't see a point on getting the last 3 revered ashes but if I were to summon someone it would be Ansbach and sleepy poison guy, not a spirit.
>>483934486He kinda looks like the FC tranny
Do the people in the shadow lands know the shattering happened?
>>483933879he probably wanted you to get infested with parasites and become a finger mother like he did.
New meta is 200 btw, activity here is insane
elden rings be like>which demigod would you fuck?
>>483934468It doesn't even need to be OC, fucking /v/ threads get reposted on Twitter and get a bazillion likeshttps://x.com/ShitpostRock/status/1806540526889717968
>>483934553Does anyone outside the lands between know or care the shattering happened?
>>483934372Me finding my weaponfu at the literal end of the DLC>>483934465That could still work then. There's a lot of Formless Mother stuff with the Bloodfiends, so a blood ritual wouldn't be a stretch.
>>483934604anon... 200 bracket goes all the way up toi 713
>>483934604anything above 200 is heavily populated. all the redditors went way passed 200
>>483934626I do
>>483934206just make it so you can be attacked while going through the fogwall like in ds1 and ds2
is a STR + INT/FTH build viable or is it just spreading yourself too thin?
>>483934345It restores the entire cost of DMGS as the buff runs out. I literally never needed to FP flask outside of bosses even after using sorceries.
>>483934684No because that doesn't solve yhe problem that the stakes of Marika make it so half the time when like you invade the person instantly enters the boss
>>483928694It's still held back by poor range. Very fun though
>tfw no cleanrot knight NPC>after the enchantment breaks, she begins having qualms about whether miquella has abandoned malenia and the haligtree>also wondering if malenia suppressing the rot is truly the right thing to do>can convince her to side with you, after revealing miquella has abandoned his love>kino lines in the final battle about reenacting aeonia and about fighting a fellow child of rot>has a faith katanawe lost...
>>483934682Nobody asked you.
>>483934674that's 300you're confused because you don't know the brackets between 200 and 300 because nobody does
>>483934712Depends on when you want to stop leveling.
>>483934654>want to 1h a weapon while having blood incants on my left>1 handing a scythe looks dumb as fuckback to m'lady i go....
>>483934490reminder that hornsent's hat means he was one of the people who chopped people up and shoved them in jars.
>>483934604I stopped getting invasions at 200, had to drop to 150
>>483934712just about every build is viable but you may want to look up equipment that's suited to your build so you don't waste time picking up cookbooks
>>483934678If you can go past the meta level by leveling normally throughout the game then your meta level's wrong.
>>483934420they're sitting in corpse-stained walls waiting to die after 99% of them were killed by the Cleanrots in Aeonia and the Wailing Dunes, while the Cleanrots continue to hold their last battlefield and are totally untouched in their own home territory.
>>483934604>Dude what if everyone had bullgoat
>>483934654what a shit weapon>3 stat scaling>useless ash of warbet you're gonna wield it two handed as well and be useless in both coop and pvp
haha, thats unnerving
Monumental bros, we fucking won
>>483934827I honestly don’t feel bad at all for jumping him with Leda. The bait and switch with the Hornsent was great.
>>483928520>>483931905It didn't fill my need for an unshittified scaled set
>>483934754I still don't understand the story, but based on what the npcs said and the final boss it seems like miquella wasn't a big fan of malenia and liked radahn more so now I wonder why they even fought
I heckin' love the new Dancing Blade curved swords, the ash is fun as hell. I get slapped out of it all the time by everything but when you manage to somehow dodge boss hits using it and just swirl around hitting with the multi-hit tear and talismans, it feels really nice. Surprised they made it low fp cost too so its genuinely playable at low levels.
Thinking of making a build around the Priestess heart and Dragon incantations. Two questions: How much Dex should I go for, all the way to 70 if I can? And Endurance seems like a bad idea to dump even if I have light rolls already. Am I wrong and should just keep it at 10?
>>483934604>new 200 isn't anything new.
>>483934498i haven't made it yet because i'm too lazy to do the dlc a second time but it's basically this with madness hand, madness torch, madness perfume, madness spear and madness seal + that new spell from midra that takes 41 fth + the new talisman
>>483934871I think they go out of their way to make shit weapons, while making good weapons completely by accident.
Reinstalling the game as we speakIs there any shield in the DLC similar to this little fella?
>>483934894i noticed him too. neat little reference
>>483934875>even the trees were fused with Marika's people
Bayle...
>From is owned by Kadokawa Corp which is 6% owned by Tencent since 2022 No wonder the series is going to hell
>>483934712If you are just hitting the int/fth mins for certain weapons it works fine enough. Almost all the str/int and str/fai weapons lean hard into strength.
Can you make it work at 150? Light Greatswords just aren't good without Wing Stance.
>>483934985No...
>>483934836ps or pc?
>>483934553Ymir's dialogue seems to suggest he'd know, but I guess he could be talking more generally. Ghosts of Mesmer's troops beg Marika to tell them to stop the war, and don't believe she'd abandon Messmer, so I think they've heard it happened, but don't believe it> No, such a thing is utterly inconceivable...>We have not been abandoned.>Messmer is the son of Queen Marika...>Her Grace would never abandon her own flesh and blood...
>>483934930>the ash is fun as hellFor me it's wing stance. Combined with dual milady's it's pretty peak for my sword mage build.
>>483934869>while the Cleanrots continue to hold their last battlefieldTheir last battlefield was a dank moldy cave?
>Notorious DS3 and Sekiro bosses took me longer than difficult Elden Ring Bosses (excluding Malenia)>Get way angrier fighting the difficult Elden Ring bosses despite finishing them faster without cheese"just summon" bros and "git gud" bros can't explain this.
>>483934654I'm a scythe enjoyer but this one is unironically the worst. Lower base bleed despite being the only arcane focused scythe is fucking retarded.It also has the terrible standard scythe moveset and not the superior grave/winged scythe one.
>>483935107PCand its not that it stopped but I had to use near/far more often than not and be placed in open world areas instead of where I want to invade near
>>483934674No it doesn't you fucking idiot
>>483935046this weapon is very good because of the ash of war alone, specifically the heavy attackyou level enough to meet the stat requirements then pump dexthe ash of war stunlocks enemies in both pve and pvpthe only thing it's shit at is bosses
>>483934928Miquella abandoned his body and a lot of his emotions, including his love. That would incude his love for Malenia, hence why he only refers to her as his loyal blade
>>483935046the moveset on these things is so bad its not even funny man. the R1s are alright, but the fact they dont use unique L1s or R2s is so cancerous to me
>>483934871>useless ash of warUnironic skill issue, opinion discarded.
>>483935132It's because the bosses aren't all that hard, just annoying to deal with and what kills you is not a lack of mechanical skill but of patience to deal with them.
>>483935126How do power stance milady feel?
>>483934684God I miss DS1 pvp. I can't think of a single game you could troll people harder in.I used to farm angry xbox live messages with my SL1 twink.
>>483935276pretty awful. it just uses the regular powerstanced greatsword moveset lol
>>483934871>>3 stat scalingIt's STR scaling is functionally zero. It's a DEX/ARC weapon you fucking idiot.>>useless ash of warYou're bad at the game, that ash is amazing.
>>483935236>this weapon is very good because of the ash of war>pump dexdoesn't the fire aow scale with faith, mainly?
>>483935029Elden Ring was already made when Tencent AND Snoy bought stake in Kadokawa, but (lol) only Sony's share has voting power which is just as bad
>>483935126>wing stanceAnother good one for sure, not all the new weapons are fun/useful but there are some real winners in there.
I want miyazakis Arabian nights. enir ilim and the scorpions felt like a taste of something to come
Should I side with Leda or Hornsent?
>>483934654a blood ritual wouldn't get you the eclipse though, it'd get you the blood star. you'd likely need to do a death ritual to get into contact with the microcosm of a death deity
>>483935314I get why they changed it, but damn it was fun. Especially when it went on sale so there was a lot of fresh blood.
>>483935356yes but you don't need to pump AR for this ash of war it just destroys everything at base value
>>483930672Did he not drop a bell-bearing? That lets you buy them from the roundtable hold shop.
>>48393497046 seems to be the highest requirement for the double red lighting spear 40 dex+radagon icon for max cast speedpump STR up to meet requirements for your preferred weapon get enough END to lightroll while carrying your heaviest weapon MIND is completely up to you
>>483935132Because the worst we dealt with back then was Friede spinning before a single slam, Midir taking a good while to fire a laser, and Gael having fire after trails of his basic combos.
>>483935405It would be nice to have another soulslike that wasn't just miyazaki being a westaboo for 40 hours.
>>483935046You can. The three way split damage is shitty, so you are better off getting to the minimums to use it then focusing on just one or two of the offensive stats for it.
>>483935406Leda is backing the wrong horse, but Hornsent is a little traitorous bitch and probable war criminal.
bro more than 90% of these new unique weapons are dogshit. even the ones with good damage like the magic katana is shit since the best damage comes out at the end but you have to go through 7 centuries to get to it and can knocked out of animations at any point that reset the whole thing, wtf no wonder people are spamming the spark or shield builds, everything else sucks ass. also>only 1 throwing blade weapon typewtf were they thinking?
aside from haligtree greatshield, what shields go well with ledas armor
>>483935460The final fight is literally ruined by radahn
>>483930201based>>483930353pic related
>watching /vg/ memes become reposted enough to become mainstream>credited to fucking reddit too>https://youtu.be/VOyP6BAPbrMI've never actually seen it happen in person before, is this how it feels every time?
>>483935314
>>483935460What an absolute vomit inducing fight. It feels like something I'd see in a fan mod like Archthrones or Garden of Eyes.
>>483935276Both good and bad. The moveset is the same as rellana's sword but you still have access to the one handed moveset which is handy because of the sweeping heavy attacks in to a sweeping light attack. The biggest thing is that the combo system in the game doesn't lend itself well to light greatswords. The first two pokes of the power stanced moveset kinda suck and you need to work around them. The jumping attack isn't amazing either. I like using them but I like thrusting swords to begin with so I'm used to the pokes.
>>483935540>star-lined sword>shitSkill/build issue, I destroyed the entire fucking game with it.
>>483935592it's the internet hate machine
>>483935019well yeah how do you think tree burial worked? marika doing it with the erdtree was just a continuation of her people's customs.
>>483935406Hornsent, leda is killing off people who don't side with miquella. Guess where the player characters allegiance is.
>>483935592Just wait in a year you'll have tweens calling you a grandpa for knowing the meme or called a newfag by someone that wasn't born when yet you found 4chan.
>>483935406Loot wise you should back Leda
>>483930409kino. I do wish it looked better though.
Those stripped of the grace of gold shall all meet Death.In the embrace of Messmer's flame.
>>483935743What's the difference?
>just straight up an FP regen talismanOh okay then
>>483935605Peak PVP.
>>483935460God, Gael was so kino. Took me over 3 hours to beat him but not once did that fight make me mad.Everything was perfect.
>>483935775No spoilers
>>483935460they swapped lightning projectiles for holy projectiles.
And with this I'm finished fucking around random places I find in the DLC, time to see what this Messmer guy's deal is.
>>483930409>looks ugly>stupid thrusting sword moveset'I'm with you on the rest of it but you should probably kys for these
>>483930956Presumably only Empyreans can use it. We don't actually know though.
>>483935797It's awful. Restores FP way too slow to be useful. It's only real point is so you can equip it during a dungeon if you need to walk away to take a shit.
Bros, i downloaded the camera tools to take some pictures of miquella's feets, but the pause feature is not working for me even with the latest version, can anyone help me out? I'll post some screenshots here if you do.
>>483935773he sounds so freaky when he transforms>you will be TAKEN... in the JAWS...
>>483934345It's genuinely great for coop FTH builds, which are the best coop builds.
>>483934827yep. hornsent and leda are the same character for all intents, just on opposing sides (leda killed her own comrades, and it's alluded to them being innocent).it's worth noting that miquella's power did ameliorate their character flaws to a high degree. this doesn't mean his power is benevolent, however.
>>483935460His light beams feel like a last second addition. Why does every basic attack need them?Also you need to be hugging his dick and rolling left.
>>483934754>no lesbian tension between Redmane Freyja and Cleanrot Fiona as they cleave through bosses on the same team while reminiscing about the battles of the Caelid war>no kino confrontation in the end between the two on different sides of the penultimate battle where they revel in being able to face their only worthy rival faction againit's shit
>>483935893it isnt for you, chugger of blue sippies
>>483935918I wouldn't know, I didn't do more than 20% of his hp
>>483935837I literally beat him on my first try by just walking backwards the entire fight. was incredibly disappointing.
>>483935847
>>483930353I like to imagine the other joke is that the dancing lion is made up of two fromsoft employees. That way I can pretend I'm killing them.
Has anyone tried using the Let Us Go Together thing at the 'choose your ending' spot? There's unused dialogue for a Miquella ending
Do I really have to farm these fire knights for their sword?
>>483933189apparently all of the hornsent are empyreans, apparently it's a very common attribute among the shadow realm denizens. even some animals there are empyrean.
>>483934985No, but there is a new shield category that doubles as melee weapons. They don't seem very good.
>>483935956>>483935893Does it restore FP faster than moonlight shards?
tell me about miquella
>>483936070Depends which one you mean, some drop, some are found. Which are which? Too bad for u fucker.
>>483935797It's way too slow to be useful. Unless you're using the lowest FP build and you spam the lowest FP skill
>>483935953>the fujos got their food>but what about me, a yuri connoisseur?At the end of the day, no one is actually asking for any of this shit.
>>483936109what if Griffith but somehow more gay and also retarded
So what did the lorefaggot youtubers have to say about the rewritten lore and removed cutscene?
>>483936103no
>>483935893its amazing for non-casters, infinite heals.
>>483936069No. If there was an ending like that actually in the game data miners and hackers would have already found it and posted a guide on youtube anon. Don't torture yourself like this over a twink.
>>483936070It isn't even hard to get. I got 3 of them in the half hour I spent farming their fucking armor set. They did NOT want to drop those gloves.
>>483936172what removed cutscene?
>>483936134I just wanted more info on the Shattering battles man
Do you prefer the DaS knight set to the ER knight set?
does anything out of the way unlock after you burn the sealing tree? i know one of the paintings do.
>>483936172None of the lore was re-written. This is just a classic case of writers being smarter than their audience by putting in false leads and writing purposeful lies to misdirect people. >We are Fingers who speak for the Greater Will!>Some dumbass: WHOA SO COOL THE GREATER WILL IM GONNA BE A DO GOOD PALADIN BLESS ME>Fast forward a few chapters and its revealed the Fingers were full of shit and just lying >You were lying! You don't speak for them at all! All my fanfiction is ruined! Retcon Retcon Retcon!
>>483930353I just stood behind a pillar and spammed Alabaster Lord's weapon art. It killed the basilisks too.
>>483936267DS1 elite knight set is literally the peak of the series. They'll never top it.
its an eye. goldmask made legitimate contact with the greater will.
What's a good way to practice parrying?
>>483936267Always. Though the top tier for me will always be the fluted set in Demons Souls.
>>483936267What >>483936356 said
>>483936363Never underestimate the power of unbridled autism.
>>483936365abyssal woods on the eye rapists
>>483936356Looks boring desu
>>483936356I really don't think they will. There's tons of amazing armor but the peak remains the elite knight.
>>483934930does it give you i-frames?
They unironically made a pure slot machine final boss and tried to pretend it's actual difficulty lol
>>483936365Fight the mob over and over. They have different parry timings so find the right animation cue.Carian has 4 frame startup and 6 frame duration, if that helps you time it.
>>483933254those specific bugs are friendly and give you stuff when you interact with them.
>>483936267i dislike asymmetrical pauldrons
>>483928219Can you play with the ultrawide mod and the uncapped framerate online yet or nah
>>483936363No..... the greater will is a meme....
Wow, that's absolutely the worst boss they've ever made. I genuinely can't imagine doing it normally. Only Soulsborne boss I've ever had to totally respec to beat.
>>483936109Canonically homosexual.
>>483936356Only issue about the EKS is the lack of plate on the chest. Seems like a step down from the regular knight set.
>no damage mod doesn't prevent miquella from charming youI give up.
>>483936517I mean like yeah? Would you want an unlucky fan base? You wouldn't know they'd always be able to buy your games
>>483936458speaking of goldmask
>>483936512Seeing as everything slaps me out of it I would say no but if you use it without lock on, you can accidentally dodge bunch of boss attacks by just moving around while still hitting.
Someone tell me. Is there any wizard hats added in the dlc? Rogiers has the stupid head wrap that fucking ruins it and there's not any other wizard hats that are "traditional" in the same way.
>>483930353Seeing it from the ledge is an automatic "are we kidding here bro?" mental response, I can't imagine anybody not rolling their eyes seeing that. I'm like 90% certain they set it up that way on purpose for that exact response.>>483936070>equip Dryleaf Arts>spawn in at the 1st floor of storage room area in Shadow Keep and run backwards down elevator>jump kick>fully charged power attack for a riposte>fully charge Palm Blast as it's getting up>jump kick>dead>repeat until swordEZPZ
>>483936581>Not beating yourself against a wall with a roll only claymore build for days until attempt 105 when you luck out and winlol get good you didnt beat the game you will never be a woman - /vg/ probably
>>483936517It's not even a slot machine, it goes way too fast for that. Shit is a fucking baby sensory video. It's a seizure inducer. It sped up like a fucking max0r video and the asshole has almost no openings and the few he does have are only long enough to get fucking 1 light attack in and good luck even seeing the chance through the big ass hair and insane particle effects. It's the worst designed boss I've ever seen and it needs a nerf.
>play elden ringIt's bad...
>is a dragon cult weapon owned by a dragom cult priestess>has a an ARC requirement so maybe it's a dragon communion weapon? >L2 is a lightning attack that reduces lighting negation>all dragon cult lightning incants use FTH and 0 ARC so why does it have an ARC requirement? >0 dragon communion spells inflict lightning damage to take advantage of the reduced lightning defence so why does it fit perfectly with my ARC dragon communion build?what the fuck is this weapon man....
>>483936621Anon the game literally gives you his rune, which lets you remove the charm the first time he tags you with it.
I know you can CE stuff just by going offline or using the Merchant mod but is there a possibility of fucking myself over if I CE in something that you can't usually give others like DLC spells when you don't own the DLC?
>>483936356The EKS of ER is actually the Carian Set.
How does co-op work with levels? What's the limit for people being able to summon me for bosses? If I go into ng+, will I be fuckered and unable to play with anyone?
>>483936612The plate is under the tabard, dummy.
>>483936689Dragon Cult and Dragon Communion are brothers now thanks to the lore. This weapon is intended to marry them. You'll want 30 FTH for the DCS anyway and that's plenty of FTH for lightning incants.
>>483936267>>483936356It will always be my one true beloved set
what's the most fun melee weapon/build?
>>483936689Are you a silly goose? Dragon Form + Gavel is a 20% buff to lighting for you and 20% debuff for enemies. Just go chuck the knightly lightning spear and deal 10k damage a shot and sniff your own farts for winning Elden Ring. >MUH ARC REQUIREMENTBitch your 150, you can spend 5 points unlocking it.
>all these shield respecs for radahnJUST. USE. DEFLECTING TEAR. It lasts FIVE MINUTES.>>483936658Lol
>>483936689The Dragonform she has buffs lightning incants. ADLS is only 26 faith too.
>>483936674I've managed filter out the gay light show in the second phase and focus entirely on his attacks regardless of the guaranteed chip damage I'm trying to take. That's whole different level of artificial faggotry though. I'm at the point where the first phase is literally a 3 minute unskippable cutscene where Radahn can arbitrarily decide to take 1 - 3 flasks from you purely off a (literally) undondgeable attack that even no hit runs have to parry. Every time he does two of those in a row into a speed stab I just want to end the run
>>483936631holy fuck
>>483936703If you use the glorious merchant mod, they have things properly split into safe and unsafe categories. For what its worth I gave myself all the weapons/armour/cookbooks/spells on new character without stepping foot in the dlc on it and its been fine for now playing online. Think we would see more posts about it if people were catching bans, just don't give yourself Fia panties and stuff and you'll be fine.
>>483936823>JUST. USE. DEFLECTING TEARjust use bloodhound step lmao
I think that your Scadutree Blessing matches the host's during co-op. Some retard with 0 Blessing summoned me for Messmer and we were both obliterated instantly. My Blessing level is 15.Also how do I get here?
>>483936097>They don't seem very goodthey are currently broken and allow you to trivialize any encounter as long as you don't get grabbed and can maintain stamina
>>483936823Path of least resistance. If you give up on your fun build people will do whatever is easiest to win. Learning to time blocks is not as easy as holding up a fuckyougreatshield.
>>483936794SHIT I forgot the image
>>483936695Where is that, sir?
>>483936823>LolI'm going to fucking kill myself.>>483936760I want to love the carian set but there's something about the leather shoulder cover that I don't like. I incorporated the gloves and legs in to my "main" builds outfit though.
>>483936658Not even close.
>>483936807I really enjoy the new Sword-Lance as well as the Great Katanas>new sword lance is pure STR>strong as a great lance>as fast as a Heavy Thrusting Sword>Great Katanas are more powerful than greatswords, longer, have more varied and fluid movesets and have running poke>the red one even has the Claymore R2 pokes and gives you huge poise
>>483934531Have 55 Vig so I could cast a few more spells before needing to top-up with Flask, but it wasn't enough. Will probably re-spec on this character for this fight and tank and spank it like I did on my first one. Thanks for the Talisman advice as thast got me further than previous attempts.
>>483936892What shield is that?
>>483928568>we basically have definitive proof of this now that she 100% is giving control to an outergod.What outer god?
>>483936823Tried it, still took too much chip damage in phase 2 without a shield.
>>483936807>fun within the DLC Any poke weapon + Great-shield so you don't have to deal with any of its bullshit.>fun outside of the DLCBear Claws. Obviously.
>>483935460has anyone tried just running to the side instead of rollspammingserious question
every time I get blueberry summoned
>radahn needs to be parried 3 times to staggerwow great design
>>483936879Yeah but the part I wasn't sure about was that it also warns on the page to not give yourself DLC items if you don't own it. Weapons are fine since you can drop them but I wasn't sure about things like Remembrances
>>483936807>somebody tell me what I enjoyLolOkay well it's impossible to not have fun as dex/arc melee. It's also impossible to not have fun as maximum Unga bunga.
>>483936681Its okay. I'd put it above DS3 for the sole reason its fun to explore. God the level design in DS3 was awful. ER legacy dungeons are great.
>>483936823Why bother learning the timing for blocks on a boss that has attack chains for 20 seconds or more when I can just hold up a shield and say "FUCK YOU" and win?I actually won against Radahn on my STR FAI guy by using Fist Weapons with Bloodflame Blade and Endure. You can get around 90+ Phys Defense and 90+ Holy Defense like this and tank everything he does. It's even easier than with a Greatshield but it doesn't work as great when co-op'ing, you have to 100% solo him like this.
>>483936938You don't have to "time" shit. The deflect window is not only Sekiro tier but deflects every hit of multi-hit attacks like Radahn's lights.>>483936947What, you don't like the red tumor? It gives +2 int!
>>483937093agreedcheesing gwyn with parries in ds1 was lame as hell
>>483937054My nigga. I tried to beat him with these for like 18 hours and finally just gave in, they were just doing so little damage and never proccing bleed.
>>483935460Roll in dude, holy shit. Fucking learn.
>>483937196>parrying is cheesing nowwow great retard
Forgive meZanzibart
>>483937184>You don't have to "time" shit.>The deflect windowThe replies write themselves.
>>483937093>final boss of final dlc is hardDang...
>>483937010Banished Knight's
>>483935750based but BHS would've been better
>>483936943Go fight the skibidi flower at the base of shadow keep. You do this from going through the church district and draining the water, then going down.
>>483937236Parry is cheese yes
>>483937105>if you don't own itI don't know the answer but on related note, can people who don't own the dlc even pick up dlc weapons/armour if they are dropped for them?
>>483937236it is cheesing and the creators agree it is cheesing since they require multiple parries now
>>483937197This is a nice mog I am going to steal it. Yeah they kinda suck ass overall. And no real way to make them good. Great vs people though, real annoying to go against.
>>483936823>>all these shield respecs for radahn>JUST. USE. DEFLECTING TEAR. It lasts FIVE MINUTES.Isn't the deflecting tear still better with bigger shields? Or do I misunderstand how it works?
I remember there was a character sheet that optimized armor for you, anyone know what that is?
>>483937240Spamming block =/= timing. Just spam and guard counter when it ends. If you wanna be real spicy throw some parries in on his slow swings.
>>483937385ass? it no longer exists
>>483937236not him but yes, having to time 1 parry to get in an amount of damage equivalent to what you would have to time dozens of dodges for is cheesingDark Souls 1's final boss being so easy if you just parry him leaves a sour taste afterwards.
>>483937092Dude the bluefag spawns are so fucked. In my past dozen summons I have made it to the host once. And its because it was actually a guy hosting a fight club at the lake.
>>483937237I have endured more than enough..
>>483936823>Deflecting tearLiterally just worse than using a shield and poking him to death.
What’s the lore on super saiyan Radahn’s after image technique?
>>483937093That sounds about right. All the tough bosses need 2-3 parries.
>>483936965>>as fast as a Heavy Thrusting SwordThat's because IT LITERALLY IS A HEAVY THRUSTING SWORD YOU DUMB BITCH.
>>483937092>>483937441Kill yourselves
>>483937364Steal away, I love the silhouette they give with the pelt. It was like half the reason I started using them lol
>>483937381It is but either way it reduces it to chip damage or nothing. You don't need to spend two larval tears, you'll simply outdamage him on any build.
>>483937392>Spamming block>timingThe replies just write themselves
>>483937507why?
>>483937468Tear helps with maintaining stamina and reducing chip damage. It's a great tool even if you are shieldpoking.
>>483937323You can pick up DLC stuff as long as it's droppable even when you don't own it yourself. I've done it before with a friend who does own it
>>483936775The tabard is flat, and pearing under the armpits just shows that it's chainmail.
>>483937236Yes because it's so easy. Low risk/High reward = cheese
>the good goldmask is a nice but autistic feller screaming in pure outer god autism>the evil goldmask is a rehash of Godwyn, but a steroid-abusing giant sunflower with the rage of a tiny chink
>>483937475"i just thought it looked cool" - Michael Zaki, Elden Ring Director and Feet Enjoyer
>>483937468Tear is busted, negates all the damage and costs basically no stamina per hit.
>>483937475homo femboy backpack powers
Next Elden Ring DLC>X is now the main character focus and is evil>Radahn is the final boss againHire me Fromsoft
>>483937468Maybe if you respec'd for a gorillion stamina, and even then you can still normal block while deflecting the holy damage, and guard countering 40% harder.
>>483937535>You don't need to spend two larval tearsI don't even understand wanting to conserve larval tears. There's like fucking 20 of them between the base game and the DLC, what the fuck are you doing where you need more than maybe a few of these per run?
>>483937565>>483937652And when you inevitably whiff you'll eat a fat chunk of damage, hence why shield poke is better.
>>483937667so how many previous times did we have radahn as the final boss before this DLC?
>>483937581That's nice of them, I would have thought they would flag it in some way to make this not doable
>>483937557Invading is already so hard for us redbrosYou being a blue makes it even harder
>>483937729The timing is super lenient, its not as tight as parry times, just because (You) can't pull it off doesn't mean everyone else can't.
>>483937725But why change your build for one boss when you have an item that allows the strategy on any build
>>483937772>redbrosNot him but my last invasion was some cunt red abusing the shit out of the throwing shield with its infinite range and catastrophic stagger dealing 1k a hit. Fuck off and end thyself.
>sorry for Marika>don't want to kill Messmer now>don't want the last trace of her gonebros help, what would Ranni say?
>>483937820Right, because everyone can flawlessly parry fucking ADHD Radahn first try compared to the mindlessness of just holding up a fingerprint shield and poking him.
>>483937852>what would Ranni say?She would tell you to kill yourself you doll molesting sperg.
>>483937731And tree times
>>483937852do not feel sorry for marikaif ranni is hated because she has BPD and NPD and is emotionall abusive and manipulative and psychotic then marika is that x1000
>>483937772if you're not able to kill random pvefags just trying to play the game with whatever gay twink build you have in the time it takes for a blue to get summoned and then run for several minutes to actually get there you don't deserve to win
>>483937852>what would Ranni say?Shithead Tarnished, put me the fuck down
Int/Dex or Arc/Dex? No Str/Arc is not an option, I already did that one
>>483936760There's definitely the DNA of the set there but damn it sucks visually by comparison. I do steal the gloves and legs for fashion though.
From two swords, to no swords
You are not a red'bro'You're an invading niggerYou don't get off to honorabru PvPYou get off to being a nigger fucking with other peopleLearn the differenceIf you really wanted PvP you'd just do fight clubs or koloDon't cry when you run into gank squads, you're literally begging for it.
I beat Bayle, but it was pretty anticlimactic. I infected him with rot at the very end. He just stood there and I just stood there. No epic jump attack or back stab. Nigga died of aids and I watched him die from the other side of the map
>>483937915Black steel greatshield is better for radhan and way easier to get if you haven't jumped down the sewer yet
>>483937954int dex
>beat Malenia in her ultimate goddess form>beat radahn in his prime and in a giga buffed stateIt’s nice defeating a boss at the top of their power and not when their a thousand years old and busted.
>>483937915Anyone can spam block and deflect all his shit without knowing the timings.
>>483938020>Every PvP fag ever>"I MISS WHEN DARK SOULS PVP WAS GOOD">Every dark souls invasion was either a laggy backstab or fight clubs where everyone was twinked to shit and backAh, the power of the redbro.
>>483938038Not to mention Radahn was horny and not in the hornsent way.
>>483937772imagine calling yourself a redbro and dying to some random retard in a clownsuit with a flail, the worst weapon in the game
Is there anything as good as giantsflame in the DLC?
>>483938113Those aren't the parts we miss
>>483937949No, you WILL be a shoulder-riding turret and you WILL like it.>>483937926Yet both did no wrong
This dlc is bananas. I wasn't expecting to actually be able to go down and explore that area with all of the fingers.
>>483938131light of miquella
>>483938021>inflicting a cripple with aids and watching him dieBut yeah bayle is the monsterYou know he literally only had 1 leg left right, and was stumping around and dragging himself with broken bone spurs jutting from his fucked up wings?
>>483937772LolLmaoHahahahahahaha
>>483938032Fuck it, Star-Lined Sword it is then
>>483938051>Anyone canThere is no one on the planet who can do that first try, you are delusional. It's literally just easier to hold the shield up lmao.
>>483938021>Nigga died of aids and I watched him die from the other side of the mapFreddy Mercury Fan cosplay
Has anyone used Ansbach AND Thiollier against Radahn?
>>483938159at least ranni has no children she can yet abusemarika has a whole lineage of children all having severe emotional abuse signs
YOU WILL NOT TOUCH HER REDCEL
>>483938165did you find any cool stuff in that area with all the fingers?
>>483938225Welcome my brother. Don't forget your Millicent's/Rotten Winged (or regular Winged if a first run)/Thorny tear.
>Can you infuse the throwing weapons?>No>But you can infuse your main hand, and have it apply to your throwing shieldBUT WHY CANT I INFUSE MY SPEAR FROMWHY DID YOU NOT LET ME THROW ROT SPEARS
he seemed resistant to fire... maybe not, but still a fun fight. very satisfying to figure out his attack patterns
>>483938038>beat Malenia in her ultimate goddess formWhat? She wasn't in the expansion. The scorpion chick wasn't her.>>483938165You can go anywhere you can see on the map. There is a path, though it might be hidden. There are also multiple z layers in some areas.
>feel like i'm taking the cock on radahn>i should probably bite the bullet and buy some crab meat, since it's helped my lower level characters i started the DLC on so much>go to boggart>piss off>i failed his quest somehowuh ohthat's not good
Do I get the Hornsent armor if I invade?
what does /erg/ think about the staff of the great beyond.it's slightly worse than the golden order seal but can cast both sorceries and incantations, i'm thinking about switching to it permanently.
>>483938292kino
>>483938373you should side with leda here because it opens up at lot more questlines
>>483937915Did you read my post? Hardtear is 10 times easier than parrying.
>>483938292Yes. This rp is part of the fun.>protrct the retard from the bullyTop kino>>483938340>he seemed resistant to fire...You think?
>>483938373yes
>>483938185It seems wayy too slow when casting it though
>>483938292me on the left
>>483938404how so? I always thought parrying in sekiro was much harder than parrying in souls games
i swear, is everything made out of people here?
>>483938343In the base game. It seems like From has a hard on for making bosses decrepit old fucks long past their prime states. It’s usually only one or two per game that are at max power.
>>483937979>Becomes more furry overtimeLike a cautionary tale of using the internet for too long.
>>483938228Who the fuck is talking about first try? Shieldpokers don't get him first try either. But either way, it's easy as fuck to spam deflect and you take less damage than holding guard.
i've tried almost every build possible, except for dex buildsdoes pure dex exist?or will i benefit more with and hybrid dex build?if so, what other stat should i combine with it?i don't care about bleed desu, i just want to be "le" epic fast anime swordman
>>483938358Did you never do the bell quest from snek? You can just kill him for his bell bearings anyways.
I will beat Smoughtown to death Hate this dishonest shill witch.
>>483938487yes and apparently all this architecture is post golden era, because nothing bad ever happened during the age when godwyn was alive
>>483938383Looks too fucking cool not to, I was always bothered my golden order fundamentalist guy had to use the prince of death's staff, but the DLC provided an answer.
>>483936267The ER knight set would look fine if the breastplate weren't so flat and wide looking. I still think it looks really pretty though.
>>483938480Try it out for yourself on something, the window is huge. I had a lot of times were I thought I fudged it but still got the effect.I'd recommend a small/med shield though, as a greatshield is going to take too long to lift.
>>483938542>Shieldpokers don't get him first try either.Yes they do, lmao. Clearly you haven't done it. With fingerprint/black steel shield and pearl shield/pearl drake talismans, you can literally face tank everything Radahn does including his nukes in phase two. It's completely braindead.
>>483938548>does pure dex exist?Yes. Get Bolt of Gransax or a Thunderbolt Keen Urumi for ranged and grab any DEX weapon that tickles your asshole as your main arm. Consider also a lightning misericorde for ripostes. Have fun.
>>483938575i do it like 99% of the time, i guess this is a character where i just fucked it up by going to volcano manor early. his bell bearing doesn't even let you buy shrimp, lol.
>>48393854825 fth for golden vow and bolt of sneedfeed.
>>483938487Everything reapawns infinitely but leaves a corpse behind, so corpse based construction makes sense.
how do I get to the abyssal woods fuck
>>483938548Tried it before, still invested a bit in strenght but mostly to get the minimum requirements on some weapons. Elden Ring's a long game so it gets boring near the end but it's still fine.
>>483938279Yes, its a horrible idea. Bloats his health pool to retarded levels and thiollier is useless.Ansbach is *okay* but his AI gets stuck a lot in the second phase and also isn't worth the bloat.You still get their armor/weps even if you don't summon them. So do that.
Kill loretubers. Behead loretubers. Roundhouse kick a loretuber into the concrete.
>>483938292pursue
>>483938617DaS3's knight had a better shaped breastplate, even if there's a lot of features about the set that I didn't like that much otherwise.
>>483938292I refuse to let honest host-friends be bullied for wanting help.
>>483938548>i just want to be "le" epic fast anime swordmanBehold:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCBr4WbOwWk
I like Vilhelm's armor
I'LL SAVE YOU GANKER-SAMA JUST ST-ACK!
>star lined sword doesnt have a sheath so it doesnt look as cool when powerstancedREEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>483938709Just walk there. Its on the map so just head southeast :)What's the problem? :)
>>483938617It's too thick, they got it right in dark souls 3 (>>483938834). I don’t know why they went back to making everything so wide.
>>483938709darklight catacombs. start at the illusory wall in the shadow keep sewer.
>>483938915>that waterfowl blockHoly shit
Anything to look out before burning the scat tree?
>>483938709Need to get under shadow keep. Go to the first floor of the library then take the elevator down to where you invaded hornset/leda. You'll find a ladder down. After a lot of other stuff you missed you'll eventually find a cave dungeon that connects in to it.
There's a boss portal after a bridge, down from a lift in the water area Shadow Keep, what boss is it?...
What are some really fun builds?
>>483939023>>483939074Is it the path with the ruins with the collapsed furnace golem?
oh
>>483939054Make sure you did all the npc quests, including the trina one. You get locked from them after.
What is gonna happen when my dragon heart addicted Elden Lord turns into one of these?
>>483938915Holy KINO.>guard counter for 3k
>>483936267Hobo Knight set is where it's at
>all of these stupid little gapsnigga is this really necessary
>>483939174it's a fucking ash of war materialdon't even bother
Fromsoft is apparently lacking ideas for their next gameThey need to seriously add fucking dyes/coats to armors. I'm sick of off off color gear. I'm trying to keep a theme here faggots.
>>483939220Marika will get a taste of ridged dragon cock
>>483939315They need to add transmog already, every game is adding it at this point.
>>483939289oh...
He wasn't that bad. Just learn to parry.Took me ~50 attempts and I had to respec into bleed because I'm too old for these games
what are some good ashes for a great katana?
>>483939171Yes, past the next grace. There's stuff along the different elevations of the river too.>>483939247Please replace the sharted pants with knight legs.
>>483938383I'm willing to be slightly suboptimal for the sheer convenience it provides.
>>483939174oh nyo not my great glovewort
What are your thoughts on Torrent now being usable during the Elden Beast fight? Seems odd they'd patch it in now, not 1-2 years ago
>>483938915>Kill her with a stance break stab to the chestI cum.
>>483939349Fuck transmogThat stuff in a From game is dumb and throws of people's perception of armor in PvP
>>483939024It looks impressive but perfect parry stays activated for fast multihits like that off the initial contact.
>>483939358I thought I could be a gargoyle hand cannon or some cool shit like that
>>483929897It was also to hide the spoiler about his eye not being snake like but when he fully opens it you can see it's Marika's scarseal. The slit at the top forming a T. People assembling the statue would have leaked it
>>483939426Just disable it in pvp? Who gives a shit about pvp?
>>483939410It's trash. They ruined the fight.
>>483939410fucking Torrent, willing to carry us into battle against God itself, but go to some spooky ass woods in the dlc and he NOPEs out and makes you walk the whole lame area.
>>483939426Simple fix, it doesn't work if you're invading or in the arena.>BUT WHAT ABOUT HOSTS AND PHANTOMS?!Get fucked lol
>>483939362>actual bucklerI kneel. I blocked with dorito in between carian parries.
>>483939391shid I was there and didn't see the cave before
>>483938282To be fair, their mother was tortured (tooth whip + trailer cinematic) and was going through losing the one man who loved her (Hoarah)
>>483939410Is it really? Thats funny.The fight was already pretty piss easy, I imagine torrent makes it even easier.
>>483939410NeededFight is a total chase fest
>>483939247The premiere noob armor, not a single armor set in the entire series is a bigger sign
>>483935797It was great on my fth-str guy. Pop blessings boon and by the time it runs out I've gotten all my fp back. Really good for co-op.
>>483939178I helped Ansbach, killed the hornset (not racist, just don't like 'im), joined Thiollier or whatever his name is in the St. Trina death cult and fought a shadow 1v1 against Dane. Anything I'm mising?
>>483939410It's based, it completely fixed the fight. It's actually enjoyable now. I said two years ago they needed to do this and I'm glad they finally did. It's kino as fuck too since Torrent is our only companion left and we've been through this whole journey with him.
>>483939502It says somewhere that the frenzied flame can erase spirits so it makes sense
Can someone tell me if there's a way to guarantee I don't get hit by Radahn's meteors? It feels like there's a 30% chance I lose health for no reason just like with every other fucking retarded move in this fight, but at least this one can be dodged most of the time
>>483939502Madness God can kill torrent/destroy the ring permanently, so yeah he fucks off.
>>483939570Moore, and Freyja
how much mind should I realistically have as a STR/FTH?So far the optimizer has me starting Vagabond with only 10 mind
Lore reason for groups not working in the shadow realm?
>>483939410the fight is shit and boringthis is a bandaid fix that makes it end faster so we don't have to deal with the shit as longbut it's still shit
>>48393966719
>Get summoned to fight Midra>Host obviously has nearly zero scooby levels, Midra one shots me with his laserWhat the fuck lmao.
>>483939623Run backwards then sideways when he launches them. Jump sideways for good measure.
>>483939623Sprint left or right. Sprint towards them and roll towards them. Sprint and stand directly underneath radhan and then roll. Rolling left or right usually winds up getting catches. Need to sprint.
>>483938915god I hate weebs so fucking much is unreal
Is there any correlation between the Shadow Realm Shamans & TLB Shamans?
>>483939570When you said joined thiollier did you sip the sleepy juice a bunch of times and talk to him enough?Also you need to find redman freyja in the library and do her little thing with sir ansbach. If you've already protected ansbach and he's gone you missed that one (I did, fucking miyazaki).
>>483939660Already gave her the letter and accidentally killed one of the bugs because I didn't know he was friend.
>>483939721why 19?
>>483939667Depends on your used buffs.>17 for Blessings Boon + Golden Vow + FGMS>18 for Blessings Boon + Golden Vow + an upper tier body buff>23 for Erdtree Blessing + Golden Vow + an upper tier body buffChoose accordingly.
>>483939349>transmogNo, fuck you, design your game better
Next time you can, fight the Dancer of Ranah with the dryleaf fists.So fucking fun.
>>483939808it's more than 10
In order to get the retaliatory crosses talisman, do you need to invade both Hornsent and Ansbach, or just Ansbach?Does any anon know?
>>483939723Hosts are retards, its why we have to carry them.I don't trust them enough to help with any major bosses like midra.
>>483938935It's kinda thin though.
>>483939723>get summoned for gaius >host takes 1700 damage from a single charge and diesDo you think these people even realize what fragments do? Or do they just think the game is bullshit hard and rage?
>>483939829Name one reason why transmog would be bad. Don't say pvp, only subhumans give a rats ass about pvp.
>>483939689miquella saying OOPS I guess you're friends with your enemies LOL *breaks his own rune*
>>483939721>>483939859Retard>>483939827Correct answer
>>483939789Yeah, died 4 times, fought him, died a fifth and sixth time for good measure. >>483939846Already fought every NPC, NPC boss and a couple of bosses with those because god knows it's the only time I'll get to use them.
I'm so good at this gameredfags are shit and coping and I beat them as a gold or bluebro because I am more skilled
>>483939918because if they're going to make cool looking armor anyways, why not make it good stats wise as well?
>>483939968fuck I want to make a flail character now
>>483933271>Why are some of the pots in the lands between hostile then?They're just soljars looking for a fight
>>483939918Because people would just wear some meta optimized armor set and then transmog it.Without transmog people need to actually make choices that matter to their performance if they want to dress up.
>>483939882i never invaded hornsent, but i beat up the old man cause i actually found the sign. i got this from her
>Ruin-strewn Precipice HE TOOK THE COWARD'S WAY UP
>faggot invades>uses the most broken shit ever and one shots us, even though we're just random gear we picked upthis is why michael zachary hates invaders
>>483940109>Locking yourself out of Ansbach's scytheYikes
Radahn is a motherfucker. I've managed to beat the rest of the DLC with my Dryleaf RP build solo but this might be beyond my ability. Maybe I should rebirth to a cold build for the %health damage, he has so much hp
>>483939748Sprinting gets me literally every time dude
How do you consistently dodge Radahn's ghost attacks, specifically the ones where he levitates in the air before slamming down?Don't answer "block" or "you don't">>483939968PVP god
>>483939362>buckler boomerI kneel You do know the parry AoWs have the best parry frames, right?
>>483928520
>>483940109invading hornsent gives you one that enhances running attacks
>>483940149you underestimate me. ive locked myself out of alot more than that.
>>483939907Fabulous fashion. Really brings out the twink in your character.
>>483939962You should be good to go then. Like I said you got cucked out of freyjas quest if ansbach is gone from the library post invasion. You also got cucked out of moores quest with the black syrup if you didn't do it before finding st trina. Seriously what the fuck is the quest design for the DLC
>>483940180what chest
>>483939410Really? That's trash. Elden Beast is kino on foot.
>>483940091So just disable it in pvp? Like, lmao?
>>483939723You have to remember that there's a higher chance of being summoned by someone who is doing something wrong/has died to the boss multiple times
>you can put frost on fire knight gsSo does it instantly reset it or what? And why does it give it B scaling with int?
I should be able to use Messmer's flame to burn the erdtree and leave all these bastards stranded with nothing to do but fuck around the shadow realm without kindling for their tree.
>>483936086Wait really? Where do we learn that?
>>483940278No. Weapons with fire + magic damage do not reset frostbite. Mike Wazowski hates fun.
>>483940185Oh right the Lacerating Crossed-Tree.I guess it's one talisman for each invasion as a reward.I'm close to my goal of having literally everything. Just need one or two more boss weapons. Already have every single incant (minus one of Bayle's the asshole that can't be duped) and every single spell.
>>483940159If youre dryleaf rping you could try deflecting hardtearing him with bleed hands. Looks very hard but I've seen people do it.
>>483940313Miyazaki revealed it to me in a dream.
What if I just fucking killed Leda in the overworld? What then?
>>483940132Yeah I meanHe came there to murder youIf he wanted a fair fight he would go to the arenaBetween 2 or 3 cooperators you should have enough firepower to at least make a single red think twice, but they do it enough that casual observation of the way yellows and hosts move around tell them everything they need to know about how safe it is to dive you.Protip: just go hyper aggro on reds. Don't fear them and don't fear being struck. Just pressure them and bully them back and most fall apart.
>>483940361Dragon mantake me by the handfly me to the land
>>483940379try it and tell us what happens
>>483940379You can't. If you attack any of the Miquella NPCs they disappear and reappear when you sit at a grace. They don't even get mad at you.
>>483940247Horsent's chest, the braided cord robe
Never played this but had it in my library for 2 years. Should i go int or faith.
>>483939623see >>483935750
>>483940473do you prefer blue or yellow
>>483940473If you're gonna go into the DLC, Faith seems cooler right now.
Ngl the final boss and lore surrounding Miquella is so fucking awful it's killing my motivation to keep playing. Regret being invested in any capacity, wish I could turn back time and be one of those redditors who need Vaati to regurgitate everything (and also be wrong about what he's regurgitating) which allows them to play through the game without giving a shit
>>483940473int. faith in this game is pure suffering
>>483940473Int is easy mode, faith is hard mode because every relevant boss resists holy.
>>483940473do you prefer wizard or paladin?
>>483940448ty
the dryleaf weapons are underpowered as fuck
>>483940389The entire supposed arms race between password phantoms and invaders makes things so fucking weird. When I'm cooping around lvl 30ish and I see a double sudoku niggernata invader chase down my poor 500 health host in his Tree and Beast Surcoat it just makes me think. Same way he's probably thinking when his next invasion loads in and it's bullgoat ganksquad at First Step, it's just funny.
Ok which one has cooler looking spell effects then since it seems split.
>>483940606Put bleed or cold on them retard. Shit put poison on them and use that wacky rot kick to do huge damage and reset it while staying in-theme.
>>483940541>DLC bosses are retarded>DLC lore is retarded>DLC overworld is retardedWhat did the DLC do right?
>>483940587you can honestly larp as either using either stat
>>483940473Int if you're a waifufag. Otherwise, it's a toss-up.
Who taught these fucking harpies Latin?
>>483940668overworld was good though
>>483940668Literally every boss is fine aside from Gaius (just needs his hitboxes fixed) and Radahn (needs nerfs). Also the overworld was great, only the lore was retarded.
>>483940710It was me
>>483936097>Not very good>A shield you can twohand (does that still give a bonus stability boost? I remember it did in 3>And guardpoke with, and guardcounter with and riposte withit is very good
>>483940642'cooler' is subjective.Int lets you shoot giant lazer beams and call down the moon on peoples heads.Faith lets you shoot out god rays and zap peoples with lightning/madness.Respecing is very easy in this game by the way, so you aren't hard locked into any single playstyle.
backhand blades have really weird recovery for heavy attacks. if you just do normal heavy attack the time it takes to be able to roll right after is really long but if you do a normal heavy and then hold down block right after you can instantly roll out of it. idk if this is the same for any other weapons but it's the first time I've ever noticed something like this
>>483940815It's "easy" but there's a limited number of respecs
>>483940339Is a bleed build just max arc with leftover in str/dex? I saw the video of the dude bodying Radahn using kickfu earlier in the thread, guess I'll give that a try
>>483940815Lightning sounds cooler than lasers and moons so ill do faith. Thanks bros
>>483940606They are very fun and strong enough to be viable. They only seem underpowered when compared to outright broken shit like the perfume weapon art DPS.
>>483940473Faith is more fun and spectacular. INT is better for DPS, has tracking on many of its spells unlike FTH, and many prefer its faster and low key anims, but all their spells are kinda samey and casting is just waving a stick in the air. I do think the INT lore is more interesting in general though. As for the high tier endgame stuff, FTH drips fashion whereas INT is usually parts harvested from space bugs.>>483940578FTH is more than just holy you know.
>>483940865You get like 20 larval tears in the base game, and even more from the DLC. Nobody needs to respec even half that much, but it should still be a farmable resource.
the asmon build with endurance and great shields is the main character build
>>483941083>>>/v/
>>483940642Int has ice, magic swords, meteors, blue lasersFth has fire, lightning, dragon heads, yellow lasersMy real suggestion is not to focus on spells either way, use melee weapons that scale with your stat and spells to supplement them.
"Heh, you dodged my 12 hit combo and buffered and attack? How about I step back 2 meters after the combo so you miss out on your only chance to get a hit in until I start the next combo."
>>483940473Faith.>have every single type of damage except Magic, can do Fire DMG, Holy DMG, Physical DMG, Lightning DMG, Bleed, Rot, literally everything with incantations >have giga nukes, I one-shot several DLC bosses with that explosion lightning incantation>healing so your PVE experience is much easier
>>483940642Definitely fth, but int is cool from a roleplay perspective as you're literally killing shit by manipulating spacetime, summoning asteroids from space, and opening portals to shoot magically charged star matter.
I haven't done pvp since the Dark Souls 3 days, does everyone just universally gank invaders or am I getting unlucky? I'm talking to you specifically /erg/, I have your password on.
>>483940642INT wins out in terms of spells but after the DLC I'd say FTH has the better weapons.With the spells you can't beat the sheer variety of shit you can do with sorcery in terms of aesthetics and build>knightly mage with carian sorceries>cold mage with all the frost stuff>crazy cosmos researcher>bowman sniper with Loretta's spells>unga bunga wizard with the Haimas sorceries>gravity mage (goes well with strength, see Radahn)
>>483940361whats your build like, bro?does it work on PVE as well? I just spec'd into being a dragon man myself and im trying to find where to get the quest that turns me into dragon
can i somehow use the build planner offline?
>>483941009He's one of those retards who thinks it isn't a real FTH build if you use non-holy incants even though less than 25% of incants are holy.>>483941151>every single type of damage except MagicIncorrect, there are dragon breaths that deal magic damage. They require ARC too, but barely any. They're still FTH.
>>483941083Asmon is the Randy Marsh of livestreaming.
>>483941158elden ring has a thing where you can only be invaded if you have a friend with youdark souls was able to invade people that were completely alone
Can you change your character's appearance?
>>483940642I think INT is more versatile when it comes to making like any armor aesthetic work witb it
>>483941262Nope.
>>483941158I don't use the /erg/ shit but yes, invaders are always on the back foot in every souls game.Its why you need to be running OP shit to insta gib people or go to the arena with your fair build.
>>483941262yes, go to the mirror next to fia in the table of lost grace
>having fun exploring >a ghostflame dragon lands in front of menah bro. fucking nah
>>483940473ER INT vs FTH is weird because FTH spells are super fun and varied while INT has by far the best spellsword stuff.
>>483941262Mhmm, the mirror in Fia's room in Rounttable hold>>483941286Lie!
>>483941286cute misinformation spreader
>no horse aheadwhat does this shit mean? which language is it a joke in?
Anybody know how to get Leda to move from Highroad Cross? I saw her and hornsent's summon signs earlier when I was going through shadow keep and ignored them, but now they're gone?
>>483941286>Liar ahead.
>>483941339You're being subject to chinese bullshit. I wish they were just locked behind their god damned firewall. I don't want this shit in my games.
>equip Beast Claws>approach opponent>spam weapon art>?????>PROFIT
>>483941387I mean grass is from japs
Man that whole thing was fucked up
>>483940045Flails are literally just hammers but they scale with dex and do less damageExact same moveset and allThey were clearly a last minute afterthought put in because dex playtesters were getting filtered by crystalians
>>483941254In the other Souls games you usually invaded people in groups as well, but it was common courtesy to fight the host's summon 1v1 and then fight him.
where's the best spot to farm sacred bloody flesh?
>>483941339no hoesits a zoomer joke
>>483941339It means you can't use your horse in the area ahead, PLEASE use critical thinking skills.
>>483941451>it was common courtesy to fight the host's summon 1v1 and then fight himlol
>>483941229Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
>Gaius's hitboxes are so broken that his charge can hit me through my shieldCAN THEY FIX THEIR FUCKING SHIT GAME
>>483941479NTA but no, its clearly some sort of slang. It used like 10 minutes deep into caves and other places you'd never have a horse in the first place.
I like Ansbach
>>483941425I don't mind that. I don't want chinese, or russian online players interacting with my online networks. It's inherently a security concern just knowing they have access and are in the same networks.
>>483941437Flails can't be parried though
>>483941531sometimes it hits twice and instakills you
>finally get to gauis >he's incredibly easy>midra takes me over an hour and stomps my best attempts by using his 10 hit projectile when I am just outside of melee range
>>483941550No, it's used in places like Deep Siofra in front of that one random tiny room that forces you off your horse for no reason. I know everywhere this message is used.
how does the new madness spell compare to unendurable frenzy? that 41 fth requirement is pretty steep
>>483941451>In the other Souls games you usually invaded people in groups as well, but it was common courtesy to fight the host's summon 1v1 and then fight him.this was literally never the caseand in previous souls games people usually just put their summon signs down right outside the boss fog since there weren't any summoning pools so when you invade a guy randomly going through the level he usually did not have someone with him
>>483941571HOLY BASED
>>483941680hilarious if you can stand under a giant boss and use it without getting hit out of itshit otherwise
>>483941306The "Last Rites" Ash of War found on the "Golden Epitaph" straight sword is a body buff that increases your damage to undead enemies by 100%. It stacks with the weapon buffs granted by the Ash of War "Sacred Blade" and "Sacred Order" that also increase weapon damage to undead enemies by 100%. You can easily deal 15,000 damage in just a few weapon swings depending on what weapon you are using to the Ghostflame Dragon.
>>483928779Why would the host fucking summon on a stealth mini-game? You are killing the absolute retards.
>>483941681Ganking was heavily frowned upon, at least on /v/, ever since the Demon's Souls days.
>>483941436Where is the starting point for this?
i made a new thread, use if you feel like it>>483941805>>483941805>>483941805
>>483941203does it work on PVE as well? no, bosses will demolish you during the long cast timesthe weapons I use are the great katana because I'm copying ancient dragon man, lizard greatsword with crucible wings to fly like a dragon, forked tongue hatchet to breathe fire like a dragon and beast claws to rip and tear like a dragon but using a weapon is actually super shit compared to just spamming dragonmaw and 1 shotting someone
>>483940473INT is generally better for PvE, but like others said, it's pretty boring. It has spells that bosses literally cannot dodge, spells that delete large bosses (Astel's meteor shower and comet azure), and the Darkmoon Greatword you get for marrying one of the bosses has one of the most damaging and spammable projectiles in the whole game (cast the low cost weapon art, then you have highly damaging, wide sword beams that can stagger/stun most enemies for one full minute, proc freezebite, which causes the enemy to take 20% more damage and move slower, AND your sword's melee is heavily buffed).FTH spells can get pretty bonkers, but it's hampered by the longer casting time. The animations do look really cool though. FTH lets you do all the crazy anime moves that bosses have. Want to leap 12 feet up into the air and slam down with a huge AOE; that's FTH. The best faith weapon, Blasphemous Blade, has an extremely generous lifesteal on hit/kill, which is incredibly good in ER. Other FTH weapon highlights are things like Malekith's Blade, which does huge amounts of percentage based damage (as in, this attack will always chunk 20% of an enemy's health, no matter how much HP they have if it lands).
>>483941814>kill the ghostflame dragon being attacked by 10 black knights that immediately try to kill you if you get near them>somber smithing stone+10
>>483941850You take those stairs on the left and jump off a ledge, then you jump off a ledge, then you jump off a ledge and finally you run jump off a ledge into a window.
>>483941836The gank squads people were mad about were when a guy with summons was just lurking in a level waiting for invaders to come in. No one with any self awareness at all has ever expected a host just trying to get to the boss to 1v1 them when they're invading.
>>483942056I see, thanks. Time to play Mario.
>>483939645they should have made it that the boss kills your spirits summons instantly.wasted potential there.
>>483940642Faith. Grow a tail. Throw rocks.
>>483942061You might be right now that I think about it, maybe I just have autism.
>>483942313the rocks are still so good. its nuts.
>the perfume bottles are sick as fuck>they're definitely getting nerfed into the groundshame
I'm kinda sad that nothing how they built up Miquella in trailers ended up in game. They should have kept some cutscenes of him to game when we interact with the golden things. There is no character evolution for him in actual DLC. And what we see in final fight and cutscene is just retarded.