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>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
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>Previous
>>483941805
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dlc was a solid 3/5
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Reusing a final boss is proof fromsoft is dead
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>>483951271
Post your favorite new ashes of war
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>enter lamenter's gaol
>tumor people look even more disgusting than usual
>lamenter looks disgusting
>drops mask
>use mask
>look disgusting as well
>kill myself because I look so disgusting
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>Putrescent knight
>Trying to help people with it
>For some fucking reason the coopers have to wait by the bridge until the host runs all the way to the edge, jumps down, and spawns the boss
>This leaves the host alone with the boss for a good 15 seconds
What retards thought this was a good idea?
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>greatshield talisman
>dragoncrest greatshield talisman
>black steel greatshield
Yep, it's Gaius time. Nice zero damage charge faggot
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>>483951271
>Useless but cool looking AoW edition
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>>483951359
none of them, I hate how ashes of war made spell casting useless.

>hmmm do you want to waste stats and time equipping your shitty staff or just press 1 button for huge aoe better attacks
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>>483951385
They overestimated the player base, but the modern FromSoft player base is their own creation. Co-op makes me fucking hate these people.
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>>483951385
it was the same with Nito, Manus, Demon Prince...
boss triggers when you're down, so the sign need to be before that
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Casting pest threads on Rellana's twin moons!
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Is it in any way possible to give Thiollier's Concoction to anyone else? Like Ranni or Nepheli?
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>>483951448
It has better scaling half the time too
>new talisman/staff hybrid stuck at 352 scaling at 80/80
nigger shit desu
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How do you take this pot in bonny gaol down?
Already tried both types of arrows and pots
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I think Miquella's ring is actually given by the Tarnished. The Tarnished promised Miquella he would help him create a better world.

>Source?

It came to me in a dream.
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>>483951490
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>>483951448
What are you talking about? Ashes that fire bullets scale with INT or FTH just like spells would.
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>>483951359
All of them are good, but this thing is so fucking good for invasions
>super aggressive, range is higher than piercing fang
>ROTS people on hit, even a phantom one, in two hits
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>>483951527
>It came to me in a dream.
Well, just like the ending, so its my headcannon.
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Can CE be used to alter your starting class? Or are there any mods I can use for that?
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>>483951528
Leyndell women can't compete
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>>483951528
why do people draw her with huge tits
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>>483951567
But does it have hyper armor to tank the million different projectiles / AoEs you're going to be eating while it winds up?
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>>483951574
>Can CE be used to alter your starting class
Yes, but you'll probably be banned if you go online
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>>483951537
yeah so why would I ever use a spell?
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Right, gonna ask for some spoilers.
The only remembrance bosses I have left are Messmer, Rot-bitch-whose-name-I-forgot and Asset-Reusal-and-butchered-writing.

I recall that if you kill the rod centipede scorpion woman she'll unlock the path to something? What is it?
What about Mesmer?
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so, since running through the pve eventually gets boring, and pvp is mostly a shitshow now that every group and gank out there has a million different ways to nuke an invader from a distance AND blend them up close
anyone have any mod recommendations? or is the dlc too recent so no mods work right now?
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>>483951359
>nice job dodging the giant hunt style stab, I guess you’re going to come in for that free hit now right?
>cool, cool, HOWEVER
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>>483951625
There's a tree you burn behind the bug lady with Messmer's soul
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>>483951590
>Female Knight with huge boobplate armor
I wonder why....
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>>483951617
Well fuck, that sucks
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>>483951605
Pfft, no, i won't.
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>>483951625
Kill messmer to get kindling, kill rot bitch to burn tree shit
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>>483951668
>huge boobplate armor
>>huge
is this actual coomer brainrot?
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>>483951668
Go back to the shadow keep, messmer
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>>483951730
Biggest tiddy armor in game
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>>483951632
I love the fact the followup is actually strong as fuck. I thought it would merely tickle, but no.
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Having ton of fun on my main character. Level 130,, no scadutree fragments, no summons. Fought 3 major bosses, all fair difficulty.

Decided to play dlc on secondary character. This time I used all scadutree fragments in area. Made all the bosses super easy. Like Nintendo game easy.
I honestly can’t believe how shit people are at video games with people saying this game is hard. All these complaints are from fake gamers .
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>>483951764
and its barely an a cup
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>>483951663
>>483951720
Thanks
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What the fuck is Arc even?
It made sense in Bloodborne where it represented all elemental and eldritch shit, but in Elden Ring it's all over the place. It's especially weird since fire scales with Str and lightning with Dex for some reason.
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>make a fist weapon
>give it pierce damage
>make it nearly as long as a greatsword
Absolute madlads unwittingly handed me an I win button for most fights the second I found this sucker.
>>483951567
Funnily enough this does amazing on poison pata. Fisting people half to death to proc poison and activate my kindred talisman and surfboard sliding into their guts is unadulterated fun.
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>>483951668
>Female Knight with huge boobplate armor
To the contrary, she's most definitely compensating for being a chestlet
You don't need a boobplate to accommodate for a large breasts, just leaving more space in the chest area is enough
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>>483951827
I want to add using the scadutree fragments made it so easy it wasn’t even fun. And 99% of fake gamers complaining about difficulty used these fragments and are so bad they still dieting to bosses.
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>>483951832
>that
>barely A-cup
nigga you're the one with coomer brainrot
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>>483951680
DOOT :DDDDDD
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beat consort using scorpion charm and rakshasa armor and 40 vig only medium rolls. Fuck everyone that tells me to use shields or level vigor. Just do more damage its that simple
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>>483951876
>poison pata
Since it hits two times on most of the moveset may as well use poison greases. Even drawstring is easy to make now.
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>>483951573
Indeed anon, one must be like Fromsoft just believe hard enough and give vague hints and it becomes truth.

I'm off to jerk off to Miyazaki's Elden Ring porn collection.
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>>483951919
seek help
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>>483951927
>>483951680
Why did they call this a bell? It's clearly a horn
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>reminder that on day 1 there were literal brainlets here asking "W-why doesnt Radahn say anything?"
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>>483951864
Dark occult magic
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>>483952009
uoh plap plap plap
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>>483951995
Because we hate horns
fucking hornsentigger
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So let me get this straight

The game makes furnace golems ridiculously tanky and unfun to fight directly since it become a game of skip rope and slowly very very slowly stagger them and still take 2-3 critical strikes to kill them with mass buffs, ages to kill one
But it lays out how you can kill them with hefty pots and purposefully designs them to be near cliffs and even makes some immune to normal damage with armor, so you're forced to kill them with pots

BUT

the very first furnace golem you're introduced to, and visible immediately in the first area
cannot be killed by the intended method of pots
and will literally run away at max leash range if you try to lure it to the nearest ruins
and will destroy nearby trees if you climb them
and won't aggro if you go up the cliff

AND

even if you knock them down so they're basket is completely exposed to throwing pots into it
THEY TAKE ZERO FUCKING DAMAGE
??????????????????????????
>enemy is weak to pots
>intended method to kill it is with pots
>its made immune to pot damage when its on the ground
>BUT ANY OTHER SOURCE OF DAMAGE WORKS FINE
>other damage sources will rack up damage for like 30 seconds without them getting back up again
>only pots are excepted and won't deal damage

seriously fuck you miyazaki
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>>483951827
>reddit spacing
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>>483951832
Anon the fact that she required breast molds on ANY piece of armor means she's got a big ass fucking rack.
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>>483952009
Give him some resins ffs
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>me when I purposefully spread misinformation in the Lands Between
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>>483951980
it's clearly B or C you retard
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Palm Blast makes light roll builds so fucking good for invasions, i'm considering a priest walkthrough with base stats solely to wield both kung fu weapons + all the best invasion incants.
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>>483952009
Is Miquella
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>>483951930
I’d rather not risk disengaging for even a single second to use grease given the ailment talisman is a thing. Better to have the poison just be innate so I can proc it and go for the bloom off the rip in my opinion
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>>483951864
blood. all kinds of blood, dragon blood, mohg mommy blood, human blood, whatever blood you got.
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>>483952082
What would happen if I came inside the fingussy?
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>>483952009
is used goods. ugh
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>>483951827
rl 123 skipping the fragments as well
haven't run into any issues yet
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Why did she have hornsent babies?
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Just finished the DLC... Is this it? Just a stupidly difficult fight? Nothing else?
Just feels so... empty.
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>>483952131
you become a God
marika needed radagon for his dick
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>>483952009
How exactly am I meant to play this game when every time I need to ride around I'm forced to stare at its perfect juicy behind, shit is literally unplayable
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>>483951903
She's just trying to show off her only good trait
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>>483952143
Horns just happen naturally in elden ring. It's just Crucible glitching out and giving you some cool bestial features.
Marika had PTSD from what hornsent did to her people, so she threw her own kids into sewers when they were born this way.
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Carian women supremacy
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>>483952036
Why do death and aberrant sorceries require 0 arcane then?
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>>483951864
As I understand it, it's some kind of innate magicness
In contrast to FTH where you cast through devoition/belief and INT where you cast via knowledge/understanding, ARC magic comes completely from within, be it through the absorbed dragon hearts, having cursed blood, etc
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>>483952089
Why does light roll synergize with it?
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>>483952009
why did they give us the ugliest donkey mutt of a horse possible?
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MICHAEL WHY CANT I MARRY RODERIKA YET
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>>483952149
Bitch nigger, the battle royale alone and Ansbach asking you to become a true Elden Lord for normal people when he dies against Miquella are the best sendoffs to the game possible They literally can't top this.
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>>483952257
>TFW no obsessive devoted carian gf who would throw it all away for me
WHY LIVE
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>Reminder that Ranni cant give you kids and Marika has a certified fertile womb
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>>483951528
>>483951668
Sauce please
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bros im ngl these blood magic spells are fucking POOPIE
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>>483951527
The player Tarnished is Godwyn's soul reincarnated, Marika had to smash the Elden Ring to save it.
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>>483951271
What level should I play the DLC for "Beating The Game"?
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>>483951668
>>>>>>>huge boobplate
Coomer brainrot. Her breastplate is literally small, not to mention her boobs would have to be smaller than her armor to actually fit in them. Touch grace.
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>>483952372
There's been something wrong with every single fucking kid Marika has popped out aside from Godwyn. Even if we ignore the self-cest ones, she has a 33% chance of giving you a normal kid. Those aren't good odds dude.
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>>483952298
Palm Blast gives you unbreakable hyperarmor on demand. This eliminates the only issue of low poise fast rolling. You just chunk shitters for 1.4k damage because they cannot stop spamming into you.
It's especially good on pure faith since you can buff yourself up to heavy armor tier defenses.
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bros the chicken wing is kinda fun

wish other arc weapons were good, STR/ARC would be a cool combo if we got access to the Bloodletter
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>>483952372
The Elden Womb....
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>>483952383
I wanted to like this spell so badly but my god its so bad.
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>>483952257
Why do carian women keep marrying golden order fags?
Caria has fallen
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>>483952372
Her womb is also fucking cursed you god damned retard
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>>483952491
I think it's glitched, it has no blood loss buildup
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>>483952383
blood magic is for annoying people in pvp and setting up neat true combos, just hit things with bleed weapons in pve

>>483952436
go in at 125 - 150, level as you see fit, it doesn't matter. skibidi blessings make a much bigger difference than levels, seriously. i personally beat the dlc at 15 blessings and it felt right, but you could probably do 12 if you feel like dragging your ball sack across a cheese grater made of fiberglass.

doing 2nd playthrough on a level 80 build and it's doing just fine with only blessings.
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>>483952491
It's bugged, it literally does 0 bleed build-up right now. Wait for the patch to fix it before judging it.
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>>483952452
Whats wrong with Radahn?
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>>483952143
Where's Godwyn and Godrick?
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>>483952491
They need to make it faster and give it bleed. Otherwise conceptually it's good and having a token of the biggest bro in lands between is amazing.
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>WOW 100 NEW WEAPONS IN THE DLC
>majority are pure garbage
>some even unusable
good job mr zaki
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>>483952483
Jesus christ anon calm down its a blue board.
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>>483952082
Is the spiral motif on the fingers meant to imply some association with the scadutree spiral motif that the hornsent use? It is two fingers intertwined as well, I don't know what that means though
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>>483952571
Almost all of the new weapons are good though
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>>483952009
Torrent
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>>483952548
Radahn didn't come from Marika's womb. But his sheer size definitely isn't normal. As far as Radagon's kids go, 2/3 of them came out normal.
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>>483952525
>>483952545
it also does negative poise damage
and damage in general
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>>483952452
>>483952510
Godwyn, Radahn, Ranny and Rykard were fine.
Her fucked up kids are the ones she fucked herself for and the Omen twins which were just a hiccup and if treated better they could have been OK.
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>>483952548
He’s fucking massive and has red hair. Cool to us but to them it’s a sign of giants blood which is a big no no.
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>>483952571
The vast majority of DLC weapons are a straight upgrade over the base game ones and most of them are great, maybe stop being a shitter.
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>done pure str
>done pure int
>done pure dex
>done int/fth
whats a good combo next? arc not really my thing.

Was thinking of trying a 30/30/30/30 type build for Rellana's swords but I have zero idea how bad that might be.
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>>483952508
Carian women are built for BIG FAITH COCK
Cope and seethe INTcels
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>>483952453
True, I didn't think of that because the last time I played a light roll build it put me off of them for this exact reason. I think the caster synergy would be very strong, whether FAI or INT. Not a fan of buffs, personally.

Here's someone with a similar build concept if you want to take a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-frrAQZxYcY
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>>483952592
Coomers refuse to go to the appropriate boards and would rather shit up every thread here, so tough luck
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>>483952637
It's presumably intended to build a shitload of hemorrhage, hence the low damage and impact. It's not working as intended either way unfortunately.
>>483952647
>Radahn
>fine
He was the size of a fucking house in adulthood.
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>>483952372
>Numen are supposed to be "seldom born" implying low fertility
>meanwhile Marika had all of the named demigods
>plus the demigods stated to have died during the Night of the Black Knives
>plus the other demigods stated to have died during the Shattering
>plus the two other demigods Vyke killed
Goddamn baby factory, she absorbed all of her race's fertility. Precum knocks her up.
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I know most of the thread already beat him but a giant flaming brick is not how I expected to beat this dlc. critting him during the start of phase 2 to avoid all the damage from the fps killing move was kino
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>>483952657
Caria literally reached the stars
You dirty golden order bastards are still busy praising a tree
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>>483952650
delusional
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>>483952571
the overwhelming majority of DLC weapons are either fucking broken, exceptionally strong, valid alternatives, or niche upgrades / sidegrades. or are you really going to say that the fucking tooth whip and imp hatchet (both of which have unique skills, at least) represent the entire DLC?

people were dismissing dueling shields for the first few days. surprise, surprise, they're fucking amazing. there's only a few stinkers like the sword lance which just have nothing going for them.
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>>483952542
I'm currently playing the game since start and I feel like I'm being able to dodge R1 also sometimes R2, you know like the game should have been all the time. I hope later around Radagon and Elder Beast I am still able to do something besides roll R1 every 1 minute.
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>>483952652
>Was thinking of trying a 30/30/30/30 type build for Rellana's swords but I have zero idea how bad that might be.
Awful. Much like the SoNaF, the fire part of the AoW scales with FTH only and the magic part scales with INT only. Get bare minimum STR/DEX and either level INT/FTH evenly or pick one to focus and lean on that part of the ash.
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>>483952659
Oh shit, yeah, this is exactly it.
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>>483951448
Don't forget that most spell are pretty uncastable 1v1 because no hyperarmor
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>>483952787
>sword lance which just have nothing going for them.
r2 r1 true combo but a HTS without the HTS rr2 is unusable garbage anyway so it doesn't matter
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>>483952823
fug. Are there any quality int/fth setups that work decently well or is the way to go for int/fth basically minimal weapon stats into pure magic scalings?
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>>483952803
remember this image as you progress.

the game always gives you the tools to succeed. use them.
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I guve up with Radahn. I will just learn to parry everything parriable. Trying to dodge everything with all these delays, catches and variations is just pain
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>>483952548
Radahn is Radagon and Rennala's child. If you're cool with being the one impregnated, then it's fine.
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>>483952901
>the game always gives you the tools to succeed. use them.
No, I won't break my roleplay theme thanks.
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>>483952901
Mostly about the RNG part?
I played the game already and I still don't know how to dodge Erdtree Avatar light rockets besides taking cover.
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>>483952901
Radahn is genuinely unfun and Bayle is just...boring? idk
Igon made him entertaining but Bayle on his own is incredibly boring to fight
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>>483953048
>and I still don't know how to dodge Erdtree Avatar light rockets besides taking cover.
can't you just sprint
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>>483952901
>bad design
did the person writing this think they got some epic own by pointing out that subjective opinions are not objective
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>Mesmer charges big attack
>Hornsent stops it with a stance break
>it still goes off
B R A V O
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Rennala wasn't mindbroken because Radagon left her, she was mindbroken because she realized she was fucking a woman the entire time.
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>>483952889
>Are there any quality int/fth setups that work decently well
Unfortunately not.
>or is the way to go for int/fth basically minimal weapon stats into pure magic scalings?
You got it.
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>>483952924
Phase 1 everything can be medium rolled without issue. I still haven't figured out what the fuck you're expected to do in phase 2 other than use a fucking shield
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>>483953102
cope. game is objectively bad, fromcuckies are just too brainwashed to accept
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I CANT SEE SHIT IN RADAHN PHASE 2
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>>483952657
Golden Order and Radagon are int/fth hybrids you tard
Law of Regression requires 37 int and 0 fth
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>Albinaurich wolf riders in the DLC open world
Are you fucking kidding me
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>all the new Arcane spells in the DLC are utter dogshit
Cool thanks
I especially love that Furious Blade of Ansbach, the only new bloodflame spell and arguably the hardest spell in the game to get, is bugged and doesn't even stack bleed properly
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>>483953185
It's just 1, commander gayass' wife
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>>483953104
bro why the fuck are you locked on the entire time? you don't need lock on to dodge the snake
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HOLY FUCK I HATE STREAMERS AND LORE YOUTUBERS AND HYPER FAST RETARDED BOSSES AND THEIR PATTERNS
JUST GIVE ME ANOTHER DEMONS SOULS AND DARK SOULS 1
I WANT A SOULS GAME DRIPPING WITH ATMOSPHERE
NOT SPASTIC BOSSES
FUCK OFF
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>>483953176
and goldmask can't use it lmao
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IF I HAVE TO LOCK OFF THE BOSS IS BROKEN. FACTS
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>>483953191
Even if it did I honestly think it's a piece of shit.

Honestly most magic setups in this game feel pretty lame overall. Int/Faith got the dual swords but other than that I honestly don't like most stuff.
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Ancient Dragon Florissax
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>>483953278
dont worry miyazaki made the worst lore possible to make them want to kill themselves

imagine having to pretend this lore is interesting for years LMFAO
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>>483953278
Sorry bro, dark souls 2 got too much drama and bloodborne got too much money, we roll souls now
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>>483953307
Rellana's swords aren't very good unless you're level 250 desu
t. level 400
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how do u get there
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>Divine beast starts summoning basilisks
Oh. Okay
>Divine beast starts spamming its lightning phase change
>I die
Oh. I see how it is.
>I summon Jar cannon
fuck you miyazaki
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>>483953318
So Lanseaxx went around leyndell getting fucked while looking like this? Not the coomer version, but the in-game version I mean
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>>483953042
Then acquire skill.
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>>483953334
>400
absolutely based levelchad
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>>483953307
It'd be good if it actually bleeds like it's probably meant to. It's definitely a single-cast bleed spell for the archtype of spells that otherwise has no other melee options (Bloodflame Talons won't even hit anything)
And for me it'd be extra good because I run Eleonora's Poleblade and it adds a new option to my mixups
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I find Caelid so horrifying that I can barely stand to be there
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>>483953301
seriously? I've probably spent maybe 5% of the game locked on. really the only time I can think of is when I'm using an ash of war or spell that requires tracking.
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Miquella won (my heart)
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>>483953352
nvm i found the spiritspring
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>>483953352
spiritspring in rauh base
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Did I beat the game if I used the great katana with savage lion's claw?
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>>483953191
Just wait for the balance patch. Bayle's Tyranny will absolutely get buffed and Ansbach will get fixed. Flame Lightning is... Passable, but I think it's hitbox might be bugged so that might get adjusted. It needs more HA but idk if this patch will add it.
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>>483953418
I just hate the crows that chase me and the cleanrot cunts
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This weapon looks so sick but the weapon art is so... bizarre?
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>>483953356
as soon as I saw it summoning basilisks I died, went onto the bridge from which you have to jump to get to the temple, and pelted it with rot and bleed arrows from a distance
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>>483953487
Nice pic anon
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>>483953487
the first attack followup is decent, never ever use the second followup attack
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>>483953365
Yes
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yeah no gaius is bullshit
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>>483953487
What's bizarre about it? It's a dodge you can control the direction of followed by multiple slashes that build bloodloss. It takes skill to utilize but once you're good at it it fucking rules. Also here have a halfway decent pic.
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>>483953487
it seems worse than regular dynast's finesse to me
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>>483953543
just doge bro
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there is a secret ending if you make radahn consort fall asleep with the velvet sword of st trina and then crit him
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>>483953487
It's an evasion AoW so it's inherently OP. But it also has two follow-up options that are both pretty good
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Palm Blast is what O, Flame should've been
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>Go to stormhill shack at night
>Suddenly spooked by bell bearing hunter
This motherfucker thinks he's Darth Vader
For a second I thought Bernahl was trying to invade me
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>>483953592
>stand right in gront of him, 2 feet away
>charges at me, cant even dodge with light roll
this is meant to be cheeses right? i'm already seething after a couple of tries
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the sunflower boss is scary
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>>483953484
Yeah, I could deal with the tyrannosaur rats but the crows are what push it over the edge
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>>483951574
The level difference isn't going to be that huge unless you're trying to put faith on a Prisoner or something. I wouldn't make a big deal about it.
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>>483953705
Get more skibidi fragments if you are having trouble now. He gets much easier.
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>>483953672
It's hilarious how everyone universally agrees that Midra is an S tier boss, even more than Messmer or Bayle.
He won
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>>483953672
I legitimately believe Messmer, Midra, Bayle, and Rellana will be seen as some of FromSoft's best bosses ever a couple of months from now.
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>>483953540
Vyke was a weird dude
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>>483953672
I still have no idea how Gaius is below Radahn. His hitboxes are screwy but he's not THAT bad. I'd rather beat Gaius 30 times than Radahn fucking once.
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>>483953723
I used to try to hit them in the head because I think it does more poise damage like in the dogs, but I gave up on that because I think just smacking them in the legs is a lot safer. It's still annoying how easily they can keep up with Torrent, though.
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>>483953576
I got this weapon from his corpse after beating the game. I was thinking about using it but all the arc incantations are kinda underwhelming.
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NIGGA I SWEAR TO GOD IF I DO COOP AND I GET ONE MORE FUCKING HOST WITH LVL1 SCOOBYDOOBIE I'M GOING TO TURN POSTAL I AM TIRED OF BOSSES ONE SHOTTING ME
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I can't believe we didn't get an Eochaid weapon with stance L2. Gotta wait for Godwyn DLC I guess.
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>>483953705
He is sad more than anything
>that desperate attempt to nuke you that leaves him tired
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Man it just fucking SUCKS that FromSoft didn't nail the landing with the final boss. I really think everyone would just unanimously love SotE if the final boss just wasn't radahn again with his awful 2nd phase moveset.

It sucks so much really that the final fight stains the DLC this badly.
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>>483953809
Bayle's Tyranny is complete shit, it's gonna get buffed and Furious Blade of Ansbach is LITERALLY bugged, it does no bleed, it's gonna get fixed. Flame Lightning however hits hard as FUCK but has a possibly slightly bugged hitbox and could use more HA, that said it's perfectly serviceable as a nuke.
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>>483953883
He was cool. My gripe is I thought there was more, like going into the scoobytree itself.
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>>483953792
They are. Not just because of the fights themselves, but also lore/atmosphere surrounding them. Battle royale too.
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>>483953048
sprint them while strafing, works every time. don't roll them, you might get clipped.
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I'm pretty disappointed they didn't go full fanservice with this DLC. Where's my dual wield greatshields? Where's my casing shield? where's my catalyst mace?

How the fuck did they take this long, and make this much money, only to release a DLC worse than Ashes/Ringed?
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>>483953797
Its salt and he isnt anyone's favorite boss, bridesmaid syndrome. Radahn still has the gay people vote.

I like him, but he isnt my favorite, top5 at best.
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>>483953487
>pic
i laughed

i really want to try this thing on my ARC build but christ does it drop late. unless ansbach drops it if you kill him, but i don't think i can bring myself to kill him. he's too based.
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What exactly qualifies as a "stance"
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>>483953967
>DLC worse than Ashes/Ringed
now we've entered zelda cycle territory. as if those shits had as many cool weapons as we got here.
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>>483953858
Where have I seen that before...
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there is too much random shit in stormveil castle, i think i 100% completed it after a few hours but not sure
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>>483954026
anything that says stance, thats it
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Bayle and the whole dragon mountain are just an entire classic sword & sorcery pulp fantasy story arc happening on the side, and it's the greatest thing From has done in years. I really hope they double down on this kind of aesthetics more in future games.
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>>483951359
>CARIAN SOVEREIGNTY
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>>483953936
>>483953792
Each of them has an issue that wont make them stand out
>Rellana
lorewise feels like filler, 0 atmosphere
>Midra
Pushover
>Bayle
Big dragon
>Messmer
Weirdly irrelevant.

I honestly think most people will keep some base game boss as their favorite ER boss.
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>>483953838
>Godwyn DLC
Bro...
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>>483954034
>100 new weapons
>only less than 10 are actually good
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>>483954067
In the name or description. Unsheath and Troonveil also count.
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>>483954026
Any skill that you can hold indefinitely and can follow up with a light or a strong attack. Like unsheath or square off.
Try it, after holding a stance for a second there will be a visual effect showing that it's working, so just test if you're not sure if it applies to some ash.
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>cant progress Radahn phase 2 because I just dont see what is even going on
The visual noise is overwhelming me :(
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>>483953883
I'm expecting the first balance patch to utterly gut that fight. I haven't seen a SINGLE person praise it, which is incredible for Souls. Normally I see at LEAST a fair split. When people whined about say, Malenia, it was like 75/25 with 75% of people saying it's fine. Radahn though? 100% universal everyone hates it. I wonder what JP players think, anyone know?
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Thinking about doing a dragon cult run, mostly faith, most likely. What are some good of the new weapons that fit that? The new lightning axes seem nice but apparently, they scale very poorly with faith, so what else is there? Lightning bottles?
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>>483954112
most of them are viable, and anon was talking about interesting weapons, not just top tiers. we got way more new movesets and gimmicks than old dlcs.
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>needed one hit to kill radahn
>his random bolts of light hit me
>staggers me
>makes me get hit by hit infinite combo
>im dead
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faith dagger parry build is it possible? it feels like you have to level too many different stats at once
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So what are the implications of the fact that the Greater Will cut contact with everything in the Lands Between before Marika ever ascended to godhood? What knowledge were the finger readers imparting for those thousands of years then? Did the Order just come directly from the Elden Beast, without any actual influence of the Greater Will?
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>>483954242
>>483954192
>>483953883
>>483954153
Did you rike it? *Raughs*
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>>483953967
>Where's my dual wield greatshields?
Oh shit I actually forgot about those. The two that were in DS2 right? Those were pretty stupid fun. DS3 had the doors but I didn't get to play with those.
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I saved Ansbach from Leda's invasion. Now I just need to summon him for Radahn and I can get his armor and weapons after the fight?
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>>483954243
just do erdsteel dagger
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Buildchads is there any fun/value to be had with Faith and Arcane if you dont wanna do dragon sorcery shit? Im doing STR/ARC right now and it's fun dual wielding messmer axes but I was wondering if there were any good incantations worth throwing in.

Honestly I was considering trying pure ARC with just the base stats for weapon requirements but idk how good that is
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>>483954075
He has the best buildup in fromsoft history
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>>483954208
There isn't a single lightning weapon in the entire game with good faith scaling aside from the perfume, and said perfume is a cheese weapon that's gonna get butchered.
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>>483954075
u gay
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>>483954208
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>>483951271
I'll finish it when they clean up the hit boxes. The hippo bites outer space and you still get command grabbed. Gaius doesn't need further discussion, it's a joke. So many broken bullshit hit boxes that precede attacks and extend beyond animations in this dlc. It's a hot mess.
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>>483954279
Why are we acting like this is some grand reveal anyway? The base game already made it clear the Fingers were making shit up all along. Enia tells you that they're going to need millennia to get an answer from the Greater Will when you find the Erdtree closed to you, so you're better off doing whatever the fuck you want and ignoring them completely.
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>>483954279
>Did the Order just come directly from the Elden Beast
or Metyr
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>unequip everything for light roll
>dragon katana +10
>defensive physick
>godfrey icon, alexander shard, crest, turtle talismans
thats how i killed gaius just now. was surprisingly easy with that setup
can recommend
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>>483954320
FTH/ARC's whole point is the dragon communion, not sure why would you do this build if you just refure to use the stuff it's meant for
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I want to do a full sekiro playthrough
whats the best katana to use for deflect guard blocks with the deflecting hardtear
weapon arts / moveset won't matter as much
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>>483954349
there is nothing more heterosexual than loincloths and metal thong
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>>483954316
You dont have to summon him. You just have to beat Radhan.
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I really liked the Radahn fight
and then phase 2 started
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>tfw when you realised all of this happened just because Marika's village is next to the Finger Ruins
It's just funny to me that if Marika was born anywhere else, nothing would have happened.
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>>483953858
>some retard went through the effort of writing up and spamming an ebin pasta about what if modern fromsoft made sif, he'd have like 5 phases LOL
>they made sif
>it's the sunflower that doesn't even have a cutscene, just sad music and he gasses himself exploding
i really like his music, honestly
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>>483952406
You know what anon that's fucking BRILLLIANT!
Dreamchads are eating well. Miquella/Godwyn(Tarnished) is canon.
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>>483954502
If Marika was born anywhere else, it would have been someone else
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I really wish we had more on the gate to divinity because what the fuck does being a god even mean? Who or what gave Marika god powers if the Greater Will hadn't interacted with the Golden Order at all?
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>>483954320
FTH/ARC is very specifically for Dragon Communion so idk what you're expecting here
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>>483954579
She stole the power of the Crucible, idk. I don't think even Mike Zucchini knows.
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>>483954579
>because what the fuck does being a god even mean
Depends if GRRM or Miyazaki wrote that part
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>>483954579
Its a conduit of power, nobody has to "give" it.
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>>483954075
I love it, but I think it works as well as it does because it's the exception, not the rule. It was weirdly refreshing to see how unironically edgy Bayle is. Maybe a strange comparison, but it reminded me of how Death and Jack Horner were received as villains in that recent Puss in Boots movie. All along, people just wanted villains who burned down orphanages for fun. Give me the edgy dragon, but in healthy portions.
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>>483954404
>Why are we acting like this is some grand reveal anyway?
because the greater will supposedly abandoned the Lands after the Shattering, so there would have originally been direct guidance from it during the "better" times
the erdtree rained blessings upon the land, and yet it had fuck all to do with the greater will as it seems
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>>483954482
Phase 1 is fine, phase 2 is an ADHD schizo seizure AOE slot machine light show where you get punish windows 0.2 seconds long that you can't even see due to all the particle vomit and the fucking hair and if you try to swing a light attack more than once you get instantly obliterated for 75% of your HP and the boss has fucking 50,000 HP and if he grabs you twice EVER you just die immediately. It's quite possibly the worst designed fight in the history of the entire GENRE.
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God I hate the camera in this game. They've been making this shit for over a decade, how the fuck have they not fixed the camera yet? I'm so sick of rolling in directions I didn't want to because of the lock-on and not being able to see what giant bosses are doing.
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>>483951271
i cant get over how using a shield, even a medium one, will let you mitigate or bypass so much bullshit in this game
>puny mortal i will now shit out a 500 hit combo mwahahah
>oh sorry bro i was holding l1 did you say something?
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>the majority of the players have been turned into patches with a greatshield and spear
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>Dheo, Miyr, Rhia, Rauh, Charo
I need an explanation on who the fuck are these people.
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>>483954192
I was one of those people that thought Malenia was pretty fair aside from the potential unluckiness of being out of position with Waterfowl. She has a good back and forth to the fight with plenty of downtime. There's ZERO down time at any point in Radhan, especially R2.
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Metyr's front midsection looks like that thing Marika pulled a strand of gold out of in the trailer. Maybe they teamed up at the Gate of Divinity?
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>>483954320
The best you're gonna get is the mohg spells, bloodboon, blood claws, blood flies. But really faith isn't what you scale so use whatever spell you want and just reach it's requirement and use the Dragon seal.
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>>483954720
Based Patches was ahead of the meta
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>>483954712
>how the fuck have they not fixed the camera yet?
They fixed it in Sekiro.
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>>483954482
>>483954705
Skill issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeBOIYnVq54
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>>483954712
Literally not a problem if you stand in front of them and face them like a man like From intended instead of hiding and humping their crotches nonstop.
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>>483954720
i see so many fingerprint shield ghosts
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>>483950687
This is why i side with ranni. I have to do what messmer failed at.
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>>483954810
>I like to intentionally lie
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Am I going insane. I am 100% sure that yesterday, the Dynast's sickle play was different. It allowed for two inputs and the second dodged back at the end.
Now there is only one follow-upa ttack adn it hits twice.
Even the description describes a different weapon art.
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Doesn't this mean that Goldmask was just completely right and his ending is objectively correct? You can fix the elden ring (which had apparently existed prior to any sort of order and that the Greater Will itself had created at the very beginning of the universe/lands between) but detach it from any individual who can mess things up.
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>>483954712
Didn't an anon already say they have the tools to fix it and he was making a camera mod?
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>DUDE Gaius is so fucking hard, it's bullshit!
>play it
>he's not
every fucking time with you people
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>>483954734
Maybe after we learn more about Velka.
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>got temp ban because of Steam Deck being registered as suspicious
>forced to play SotE solo
>used to summons on all my fights
>managed to solo Radahn and Miquella
I'm sure Bleed+Scarlet Rot+Incantations is considered cheesy but I'm glad I managed to beat it by myself though I hope FromSoft gets their shit together and removes the ban. I just want to play on my Deck.
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>>483954809
Very cool, now post yourself doing it
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>>483954854
mandela effect
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>Jolan and Anna almost erased Romina's existence
I'm gonna smooch and kiss these Shaman women so fucking hard, bros.
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>>483954717
So called "Demigod" unable to face a basic bitch soldier. They're lucky there are no Roman legionaries in the Land Between.
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i use summons on group / swarm fights and have done so in every soulslike. its poor game design
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>my autistic ass is refusing to fight Radahn with anything but a claymore and a buckler or to level past lvl 120
I hate being retarded
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>>483954869
No one is saying he's hard, they're saying his hitboxes are broken which they totally are.
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>>483954854
It 100% has two inputs and the second one puts you back. I just tested it. What are you talking about?
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>>483953797
Radahn would be a good boss overall if his health wasn't so obscene that the fight inevitably becomes a resource check filled with light hits. If Radahn had 40% less HP and they toned down the visual clutter in the second half he'd be high tier. On the other hand, Gaius is fundamentally just shit. Mounted enemies are always annoying but he's beyond them as he's always just out of your reach and a millisecond from charge spamming you with no punish opportunities
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holy fuck this sucks. where's the damage? where's the poise?!
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Lorefriends please explain what the crucible is and what it does
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>>483955053
>his hitboxes are broken
how are they broken? any specific ones?
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>>483955118
>where's the damage? where's the poise?!
every spell
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>>483955084
Everything would be fixed if Radahn enters his second phase at like 50% (or even lower) hp. Also I still think they should make his grab harder to dodge. Heart Stolen is just such a funny kill screen.
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>>483954809
Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's good.
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>>483954809
I know phase 1 isn't the real killer, but I was surprised how quickly I learned it after hearing how brutal he was for days. Within 10 attempts I was basically perfecting him and had found all of the openings Ongbal is using here. You don't even need to use backstep i-frames to dodge the one attack he's using it for in phase 1. The visuals in phase 2 are what really threw me off. The white pillars of light flashing after every attack are disorienting, considering Radahn keeps attacking the entire time they're flashing. And then there's the after(pre?)image attacks that are difficult to intuitively know how to dodge.

Ended up being him with a 2H axe and only bringing out a shield to block the holy nuke when I knew I wouldn't make it. That's his waterfowl dance, where overcommitting can fuck you.
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You know I was dreading the two Red Bear fights, but they were actually pretty nice. Surely way better than a regular Runebear
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>The Storm Lion Warrior right before Miquella does not respawn
Damn and he was such a cool fight. Thanks for the Horned GreatSword tho
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>>483955170
I don't know why the runebears get such bad rep, they're fairly straightforward to fight.
Although I probably do know why - they are punishing if you constantly try to roll back and heal. But hugging them makes them quite easy. Same with the red bears, really, except for that one roar attack.
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>>483955130
The two I remember being his charge which can sometimes clip you and/or double hit you when you're nowhere near it and this one swipe he does with his tusks. I once got hit by that and he wasn't even on screen. That kick can sometimes double hit you too for some reason.
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>>483955170
They are surprisingly way less aggressive than a runebear
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>>483955252
runebears are just super aggressive and have a trillion poise
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>>483955118
I was genuinely so sad when I used this spell for the first time. I saw rellana using this spell and I NEEDED it. I proceed to go test it out on a random shadow enemy and instantly get knocked out of the air. Day ruined.
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>>483955125
It doesn't matter. None of the lore matters. Have you seen what the DLC has done to the lore? None of it meant anything. It was never important and the person who made it never cared about it.

We could have had Godwyn as the final boss and a Miquella ending. imagine. Just imagine what was taken from us.
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so who's this from the story trailer? pre-bug Romina?
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>>483955170
Regular rune bears aren't bad, I think people just never learned how they work because they're designed to be one of the few enemies that can knock you off Torrent. Your instinct is to keep running away and therefore people will roll backwards, which is the worst thing to do against them. All you need to do is stick to them and learn to recognize the shoulder check, which is their weakest move by design.

The addition of the slow shockwave attacks that you can jump definitely helps the pace of the red bear fights. The only thing I didn't like was that it was difficult to tell you can get behind them during the roar.
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>>483955262
Haven't happened to me, though I did find it strange that I couldn't dodge the charge by rolling to the side, only by rolling forward through it.
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I know this is a skill issue but seriously what the fuck is this visual diarrhea? If I had seen this a few months ago I would have dismissed it as yet another flashy animu mod.
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>>483951359
scattershot throw would be S tier if it worked on all smithscript weapons
>throwing a storm of big-ass hammers
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>>483955142
Is it just me or are Phase 1s lasting a lot shorter than they used to in these games? Way more than a few bosses have been entering their desperation mode at what, 60 to 70 percent now?
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>>483955331
>We could have had Godwyn as the final boss
>bitches about lore
>doesn't know any of the lore himself
EVERY single piece of lore regarding Godwyn makes it very clear Miquella wants to KILL Godwyn to let him rest, not resurrect him
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>>483955357
yeah the amount of particle effects on radahn is retarded
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>>483954034
The only thing this DLC beats it in is in regards to the new thrown weapon mechanic, and the new weapon types. Outside of that, it substantially lacks in building up the actual base game mechanics. At least we got a catalyst sword, now they just have to give it spell scaling, lmfao
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>>483955142
I preferred fighting his second phase. He has a bit more endlag on a lot of his moves so I could get an extra hit in and some of the most do deceptively little damage; I used his giant nuke as a chance to buff, took the hit, and then got like 3 - 4 hits in as he's landing. Conversely his first phase is less cluttery, because he's much more likely to hit you with one of his three fuck-all-frame instant attacks. The main problem I have with the second phase, besides not being able to see his moves, is that it takes so long to get there; I'm pissed off by the time I do because the first phase is literally just a 3 minute unskippable cutscene slot machine
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>>483955252
It's exactly that, they aggressively punish the most common bad habit that players have: rolling backwards. It's the same thing with the royal revenants. Even without healing spells to exploit their weakness, all you have to do is roll to the side. Got caught by the first hit of their long charge combo? Who cares, roll to the side, you're out.

>>483955340
Romina's church being burned down, I assume.
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>>483954314
The doors were amazing. Good fun. Just two giant ass doors, and a simple/blessed caestus in the other hand
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>>483955346
That's fair, ever since the Boss Runebear in Earthbore Cave and a random zombie that became a Runebear on death I never really bothered with those
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>>483951864
magic
as in, actual magic, not science like int or trading like fth
a real world-like magic which actually is about the occult, paranormal and superstition, not about learning spells in a school or worshipping gods that walk beside you
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i wish dragon communion wasnt just different flavors of dragonfire. the dragonmaw/claw shit is too slow to be usable
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>>483955357
How good is dragonwife in a fight?
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>>483955383
And yet there isn't a single piece of lore that says Miquella gave two shits about Radahn yet the DLC has Miquella wanting to get dicked down by him anyways.
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what are the poise breakpoints for pvp?
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>>483955590
51 and 101 iirc
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>>483955430
Yeah if you boost your holy resistance up enough the secondary beams do little more than chip damage. They do add up though. My winning run was with me preparing Divine fortification to help me tank the hits. My favorite part was the Nuke doing literal chip damage while blocking.

Seriously, you guys are underestimating how powerful damage reduction is the closer you approach 100%.
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>>483955552
i wish they would've leaned int othe ghost stuff more like life-steal fist instead of making it bleed and dragon stuff
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>>483948564
>deflects all projectiles, magic or physical
>only lasts for a couple seconds, even charged
>hmmm, let's try it on astel's meteors, those are dangerous projectiles that only last a second
>the meteors explode on the outside of the fingers and still hit you
haha
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Can't tell if lag or if the Fire Knight Greatsword has a shitty hitbox
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>>483955645
It's lag, that thing is the best UGS.
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>>483955383
This isn't a debate. The story for the DLC retcons a ton of shit and is flat out a horrible story. Just, so bad. Right at the start it's retarded. Miquella is in a cocoon, how the fuck is he getting rid of his body in the land of shadows? You literally touch his hand.
No thought was put into it. It's so, so, SO stupid.

It's better to imagine what we could have had instead. Imagine.
>Causing a literal eclipse and giving Godwyn his final rest.
>A Miquella ending.
>Finding Godwyns' soul. We find Ranni's body, after all.
>Interacting with Miquella through the entire DLC.
>More stuff on Torrent.
>GEQ content.

It's so fucking sad. It doesn't even matter if there is an Elden Ring 2. The story is dead. That's sad.
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>>483951492
those characters are in the base game
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listen to my story this may be our last chance.
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>>483955671
>muh prince of death

Incredible how every DLC complaint is salty Godwyn niggers that wanted a character whose soul got erased from existence to come back
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>>483955590
111 poise to tank 1handed medium weapons and first running attacks
if thats too much, then 89 poise to tank the 2nd hit of most 2handed medium weapons
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WHAT THE FUCK? why am I doing like 60% less damage to Radahn phase 2? is it the first time they added a totally artificial dififculty bullshit damage resistance for a second phase? I don't do any damage to him at all what the fuck
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>>483955586
Don't bother. There is no defense. There is no debating people. It's so bad that it's just depressing how incompetent it is. Honestly just so upset over how butchered the story is. The gameplay is fun, but it's sad knowing that the only reason this game is getting good reviews is because of the gameplay. You'd think more people would care about the actual story. But, no.

God it's so sad. At least the base game is pretty damn well written.
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>>483955671
>Miquella is in a cocoon, how the fuck is he getting rid of his body in the land of shadows? You literally touch his hand.
wanting a completely literal interpretation of every single statement in a fantastical setting is just so retarded. Zoomers like you deserve death.
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>>483955410
I'm convinced I would have beaten him many tries ago if I could actually see what's going on. Some effects are fine but this is so over the top it's ruining the whole fight.
>>483955556
Terrible. She's super squishy and does hardly any damage. I bring her purely because I like having my dragon wife with me.
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So what is "the" strength weapon from the dlc? Getting tired of my large club
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>Fighting final boss
>Get to 2nd phase
Half the time I spawn at the door a mile away from him and half the time I spawn right in his face. Is this RNG or am I missing the thing that decides where the 2nd phase starts?
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>>483955779
>Elden Ring is well written
It's bad. And the DLC is even worse. No one actually care about the story in a Souls game, right?
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>>483955808
>ad homin
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>>483955763
Congrats you now hate the fight like 99.9% of the Souls community.
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>strength faith got good options
>pure faith even got some decent choices

faithBVLLs win again, m*gesissies.
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>>483955898
I'm going seppuku build full bleeding then
this isn't fair nor fun
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>>483955357
yeah the whole phase 2 looks like some hero shooter where everyone used their ult at the same time
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>Follow all the NPC questlines to get everyone for the final fight
>Hornsent is absent
>Huh, and I even summoned him for Messmer
>Decide to go back to the Church of Romina to explore the rot area better
>Get invaded by Hornsent
>He dies and drops all loot
What was his problem lmao
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>>483955878
The writing in the base game has it's problems. It's still great and I really enjoyed it. Felt like some actual thought was put into it. The DLC is just depressing with how stupid it is and with how much it retcons.
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>Radahn attacks 7 times
>try to hit with 1 non-charged heavy
>he recovers and hits me instead
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>>483955943
Death to all Hornsents.
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>>483955901
>Be STR/FTH
>Have a lot of fun with Devonia Hammer
>Find Horned Greatsword
Damn this is a fun AoW why did they lock it so late
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>>483955901
>>pure faith even got some decent choices
never understood why you'd play pure faith over faith/dex or faith/strength, seems far less entertaining overall desu
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Ancient Dragon Senessax is making me rethink my build. Do Dryleaf Arts suck? I'm tickling his feet for 748 damage on heavy jump attacks.
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>>483955619
I only had the Holy Braid and decent medium armor. His nuke still took like 40% of my health, but 40% of my health is a bargain for twice as many attacks as normal when every other second of the fight is me gambling whether he'll hit me for 30% with an undodgeable
I didn't use a shield or anything that could block damage. I just facetanked him once I realized he's gonna chip me no matter what and focused on trying to see the combos he was doing in phase 1; everything else could get fucked
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>>483955619
>dragoncrest greatshield talisman (+20% physical)
>marika's braid (+22% holy)
>golden vow, because i can't buy crab on this character (+10% flat negation, crab is +20% physical and not mutually exclusive with golden vow)
>ate a holy liver if i felt like it (+15% holy)
>could easily eat 4-5 attacks from radahn at 15 blessings
i don't know why damage negation is so poorly understood, but it is. if leveling VIG is some forbidden rite to the average casual, increasing their defenses is lost to the ages. they'd rather go on twitter and complain about armor being useless.
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All the Fromsoft games are so bad. Ignore that I am in the Elden Ring general, dedicated time to play the DLC and base game, and will be constantly posting in this general for the next couple of months.
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>>483954075
sadly there are many brainrotted people who are like "duhhhhh why do i have to ride so long to get to bayle this is boring"
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>>483955901
Just you wait fingertranny, the moment they put spell scaling on the carian sword if the moment you're getting two thrusting swords shoved up your ass.
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where is scadu avatar
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>>483956079
How so? You get better spells, better buffs, and you can still play most weapons by simply infusing them
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>>483955849
if you get to phase 2 from a critical hit, you will spawn at the place you performed the critical hit
if you get to phase 2 with a normal hit, you will spawn right in front of him
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>>483955071
I have a video but I cant share it because I cant find a converted that allows me to put a 16mb MP4 down to less than 4MB.
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>>483955932
If you think you can bleed him, lol
You're lucky if you can get a 4th bleed proc on him while playing perfect. You still have to go through 60%+ of his bloated health with normal swinging
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Why is everyone hyping up the sekiro tear? Unless I'm completely missing something why would you try and parry something instead of just dodging if you KNOW it's coming. It completely nukes your stamina bar even when you do get a successful parry. It's not like it does any poise damage or damage at all. It is pretty fun but I don't really see the practicality of it.
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I couldn't control myself... I leveld up to +17 for Radahn...
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>>483956148
Jagged Peak was a pretty cool setpiece and I liked the concept of the hazard being environmental instead of enemy-based.

Kinda wish it has some more enemies, maybe mob-type small dragons or something
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>>483956182
>most weapons
yeah but the ones you miss out on are the best faith weapons in the game in most souls games
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>>483956161
flooded church district
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>>483955118
it has a bit of poise, armor helps. this thing absolutely shreds npc invaders and anything you can knock up or back. take it to dungeons and leave it on the floor for bossfights.
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>>483956196
>>483955071
Update: I switched weapons, now it's abck to normal, wtf?
Were we supposed to have 2 options for this weapon? because this move was 100% unique.
Why was this taken from us?
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>>483956231
Which ones? I'm considering a FTH build, and I thought minimal STR for requirements and all FTH gives you the best results with weapons.
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>>483956195
Thanks, I'll know what to expect now.
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>>483956212
your recovery frames bro?
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>>483955817
there are near zero pure stat things in the dlc, it's all hybrids because miyazaki expects you to level up.
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>>483955752
His soul was killed, but it wouldn't be the weirdest thing Elden Ring has done if it was somehow brought back, especially that in the land of shadows "All manners of Death wash up". Also, in the base game, Miquella specifically attempts to cause an eclipse to bring back Godwyn's soul. It's already established as something possible and attempted, although without success.

>We already fought Radahn
>He had no connections to Miquella
>His story was satisfyingly concluded with the festival

>Godwyn would be something new and highly anticipated
>He has strong connections to Miquella and his resurrection for foreshadowed by the ritual of the eclipse
>Prince of Death and his Deathroot remains an unresolved threat with no conclusion

Disappointment is fully understandable
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>>483956212
>Unless I'm completely missing something
this like 3 different ways
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>>483955619
The Sekiro tear even lets you deflect the nuke lol
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>>483956112
I cheesed the fucker with rotten breath and Latenna. Also tried spamming Elden stars (which was useless).
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>>483956212
Are you sure you're using it right, because it kept my ass alive against Radahn. He had just enough of a delay between attacks that I could let go and get my stamina back a little, and block the next hit in the string. You easily take like 20% of the stamina damage you would otherwise. It's ridiculous.
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>>483956262
>>483956196
post it through catbox or anonfiles or something
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summoned for radahn. i got fed up with thollier getting stuck at the fog door then doing nothing the entire fight. fucking hate thollier, im glad i cucked his dream sex
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>>483953705
>Level up my Skibidi level
>Spam Fire Serpent
>Win
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>>483954075
Best part of the DLC, shit was cash.
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>pirated the game on ps4
>can't get the balance update until they drop a large one
Sucks
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>>483956196
Bro, your WebM for Retards?
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>>483951271
What do you think of this ranking?

sauce https://www.frontlinejp.net/2024/06/28/two-years-in-new-elden-ring-survey-shows-players-fave-weapons-bosses-and-more/
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>>483956346
Truly the clang is too strong.
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>>483953705
really fun and fair boss, keep at it
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>>483956212
because people are so pussywhipped they try to defend the game from people saying the bosses are like sekiro bosses without the sekiro parry mechanic, so they go BUT BUT BUT THE SEKIRO TEAR THO YOU CAN TOTALLY BE SEKIRO even though it's not the same at all
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>>483956112
ancient dragons are insanely hard to kill with anything but headshots and percent damage
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>>483956112
Dryleaf arts suck ass unless you status infuse them. Go with bleed, cold, or poison with the new rot kick ash.
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i can’t stop wanking to marika’s feet. help
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>>483955901
I muled weapons from my first char onto my STR/FAI and going through the DLC with him, I literally switch weapons every half an hour because there's just so many fun and effective options it's insane.
Meanwhile on my ARC build I basically used 2 weapons for the entire DLC because nothing else was as good.
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i just realized what's filtering people on radahn phase 2: they're rolling away, which means they're rolling directly into the light beam follow-ups and getting rollcaught.

>>483956446
i don't really know why maliketh is so high, other than i know he kicks people's asses for some reason. other than that, i more or less agree.
>godfrey that low
>twice
:(
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>>483956487
I think this is the first time you went too far with the ironic doomposting. No one earnestly believes that you dislike the sekiro tear. No one does.
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>>483951567
I'm definitely doing a run with this ash of war with poison and scarlet rot.
What would be the fastest weapons for applying poison or rot. Would it be antspur rapier for rot, serpentbone blade/coil shield for deadly poison and normal poison infused dryleaf arts?
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>>483956212
>Unless I'm completely missing something
It negates all damage you take, negates all stamina cost from blocking, and your follow up guard counter does something like 5x the poise damage.
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>cant make pickled livers because to get the cookbooks you need to heal the rot cunts you find instead of killing them like any sane person
>uhm akshually they're brood people!
same model idgaf
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>>483956446
>Royal Revenant left a stronger impression than Fire Giant
Grim
>Morgott that low, while Margit is that high
People definitely explored more and oneshotted him
>Astel lower than a Rune Bear
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>>483955552
>a real world-like magic which actually is about the occult, paranormal and superstition,
>not about learning spells in a school
>or worshipping gods that walk beside you
Nigga what the FUCK do you think real-world magic is historically?
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>>483956342
Dissapointment is fully understandable if you are a retard. Godwyn's story was wrapped in the base game. He even has one of ending dedicated to him. Godwyn did not die as usual, his soul was removed from existence. You wanted an afterlife for the afterlife to bring him back, which is such a stupid concept I now feel nothing for contempt for Godwynfags. Your headcanon did not become true and Godwyn will never be more than a rotten mermaid
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>>483956543
I don't dislike it, it's just not the same mechanic as sekiro at all
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>>483955552
>or trading like fth
??????????
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>>483956212
Perfect parries block all damage and consume only a tiny tick of stamina. You can instantly guard counter which come out very fast without rolling recovery frames. Each succesful parry improves your next guard counter by 20% by up to maximum of 80%. You can parry a four attack combo and slam a fast, devastating guard counter. It's a different playstyle.
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>>483954809
https://youtu.be/JeBOIYnVq54?t=191
>you're supposed to outrun the meteors in phase to also outrun the afterimage attack
oh, so that's how you do it. i never would have realized it has a limited range.
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>>483956568
i think they expect you to find the one you can talk to first, but i found injured ones, i didn't think they were the "forager brood" because he wasn't fucking foraging
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>>483956446
>Margit, the FULL Omen
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>>483956446
>Rune bear and lobster above Rykard
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>>483956112
Save yourself the trouble and just rot the fucker while doing hit and runs on Torrent. Ancient dragons are fucking aids to fight and that one is particularly egregious
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>no new Bestial incanations
>no new good Arcane incantations
>faggot sorcerers get a bunch of usable stuff
Why
Just give me fun archetypes to play with
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>>483956654
>i think they expect you to find the one you can talk to first
the what? they speak?!
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What's the timing for Sekiro-parry though? Problem is you either
>fuck up - take full dmg
Or
>mis-time it, take reduced(?) damage from natural weapon guard, unsure if Tear boosts mitigation
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>>483956647
it's the exact same strategy as every other wide range delayed nuke in the game
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>>483956534
If you combine Godfrey's and Hoarah Loux's votes (which is fair, it's exactly same guy in 2 different phases) he gets a decent ranking.
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>>483956640
>Each succesful parry improves your next guard counter by 20% by up to maximum of 80%. You can parry a four attack combo and slam a fast, devastating guard counter.
Now this I didn't know. The counter boost STACKS? How does this thing keep getting better.
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>>483956685
what are the cool int stuff?
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>>483956112
Dryleaf Arts are kino. The damage may be a bit subpar, but I've been rocking them all throughout the DLC without an issue. Would recomment focusing on jump attacks and charged r2s with them though. They deal good posture damage, come out quickly and use very little stamina.
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I’m on a pure dex build, mostly using throwing knives, daggers that sort of thing. I’m going to pump my faith up to 25 for some self buffs, would the black knife be a decent option to keep in my pocket at 25 faith? I can’t find a good answer on how it’s ash scales, some say faith only boosts the initial hit but the real damage is % hp based, but some say the opposite.
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>>483956686
as is said in the pest glaive they are intelligent. and i guess moore is one or some shit

>>483956705
if you do it too early it's just a block, if you do it late obviously you eat an attack, dumb question
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>>483956712
not the attack i'm referring to
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Man the finger ruins were such a missed opportunity. Imagine a whole spooky underground area before Metyr with that creepy as hell music, what a letdown that it was just a walk to the boss.
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>>483956371
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How do I reach the regions at the north of the Gravesite Plain in the DLC? I explored all the south part (I Still have to yet kill Bayle the Dread), but somehow I cant find a way to go up the place above the Gravesite Plain.
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>>483956685
Bear roar is Bestial.
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>>483956112
Like some other anon's suggest definitely use rot and take pot shots at him when you can. Sometimes all you can do is try and survive a fight.
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>>483956603
I get that you don't like the idea but sheeesh. You don't have to be so rude about it
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>>483956798
oh, i watched the video, god i fuckin hat that boss
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>>483956639
you trade your devotion and worship for power and incantations
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>>483956243
there another path here? thought this only led to gaius
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>>483956685
The arcane shit is gonna get buffed/fixed calm down nigger
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>>483956825
On one hand I'm kind of glad we don't get to see the kind of sadistic shit they'd pull with the Finger ruins enemies in a proper legacy dungeon. On the other I'm really disappointed in the missed opportunity.
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>>483956685
Roar of Rugalia is a Bestial Incantation. You also get the Beast Claws and the Red Bear armor + Pelt that lends really well to a Beast Warrior aesthetic

t. Beast/Crucible LARP STR/FTH build
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>>483956705
It's pretty tight, not nearly as generous as when you actually play Sekiro. It fully negates all physical damage so if you take any chip damage at all you fucked up. Non-physical damage will chip you a bit but can be somewhat mitigated with the Pearl Shield Talisman
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>no more Elden Ring content
It's over.
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>>483956759
rock blades, grav missile, microcosm, twin moons are all situationally usable
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What's the reason for giving some Greatshields less than 100% phys... when some Medium shields have 100% phys.?
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>perfumer

how much into the ground is this shit gonna get nerfed?
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>>483956881
Okay now explain dragon communion
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>>483956959
the guard boost stat
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>>483956959
They're wood I guess? FROM has always made most wooden shields less than 100% phys.
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>>483956856
>>483956909
The roar isn't buffed by Bestial Charm and its damage does literally fucking nothing. It's not Bestial
I hope you don't think it's Bestial because the wiki has it in that category. It's not
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>>483956825
I liked them as a setpiece but really there was no need to have two Finger Ruins
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>>483956959
and deflection value which is invisible but matters
>fire knight dagger attacks just ping off your shield
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For my Faith focus build while using atm the Golden Order Greatsword, im using these talismans:
>Flock's Canvas Talisman
>Old Lord's Talisman
>Godfrey Icon
Forth slot is using the DragonCreast GreatShield, but any other taliman to change for better? And should I change any of the previous ones?
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>perfumes are now infinite
>pots are still consumable
gay. i want to be a grenadier
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>>483956939
ER2??? It's obviously happening.
>>483956965
They're just gonna make it so rolling spark stops producing sparks if it hits a wall.
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>>483956972
faith is for casting the incants, arc is for cheating fate and not being turned into a magma wyrm
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Whats a decent weapon for a faith build?
Just repecced and I dunno if sword of night and flame is still good and worth throwing upgrade mats into
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>>483956965
it's just a bug, use the fire or cold perfumes and the damage is reasonable
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>>483956959
Uuuuh, there is that one spell that explodes for a lot if you get hit a few times? Non-100% shields allow you to block most damage but still activate the explosion I guess? It's apparently good but I've never used it or seen it used.
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>>483956195
Thanks friend, I did it!
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>>483956647
>there's some weird twirl attack
I did him for like 6 hours straight and I swear I never saw that. Or I just couldn't see it/assumed it was one of the phase 1 moves with a light show and rolled through it on reaction
Thank fucking god I didn't see it. It's always the moves he did once every fight fights that hit me
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>Find Spira in Inir-Ilim
>Two Slots, 48 FTH
>Get shit on by everything when I try to use them

What am I missing here? It has way less range than I expect and the damage doesn't seem to be that good
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>>483957049
I'm not going to cope that we will get another DLC, another game or a patch.
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>>483957060
sonaf got nerfed ages ago, get a normal weapon you can put sacred blade and flaming strike on, blasphemous blade, and a normal weapon you can put black flame tornado on
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>>483957060
SoNaF isn't a FTH weapon, it's a FTH/INT weapon. Pick literally anything you like with dominantly FTH scaling and have a party.
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>oh look its another flying hitbox full arena aoe boss
>how exciting
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>>483957083
law of causality

>>483957107
another spell to annoy people in pvp with pay it no mind
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>Get 50 new cookboocks in the DLC
>Still no Bell Bearing for Livers
This is so fucking annoying. I don't want to farm sheep and deer for hours.
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>>483957047
I'm actually surprised they didn't turn pots into a throwable weapons. You already have lore that the pots regenerate and that weapon class could use more than one (1) weapon
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>>483957121
>>483957124
Cool, thanks anons
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>>483957161
just get to 12 fth so you can cast buffs
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>>483957117
There will 100% be balance patches, you're crazy if you think otherwise. That said it's confirmed there won't be another DLC. It's also obvious though that the shareholders are going to demand ER2, it's gonna happen. This shit PRINTED money.
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>>483956112
took the scriptsmith daggers and rode torrent around him. if you can stay directly behind him, he will constantly try to rotate on you and never attack.
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>>483956603
This isn't an argument Anon. You are literally being told why the story is disappointing and bad. Nothing you say changes that. Nothing you say excuses that. No words will you type will change anyone's mind. It is, objectively, pure shit.

>A Land of Shadows where dead wash up.
>A quest to find the shattered soul of Godwyn the Golden.
>Miquella working along side you in some measure.
>A literal fucking Eclipse.
>A new ending.
>Laying Godwyn to rest.

Even if they make an Elden Ring 2 it doesn't matter. The story is dead. It's just mechanics now. It's Dark Souls 2 and Dark Souls 3 all over again. It's just so sad. The base game is still amazing though. Think about how we find Ranni's body even after she an hero'ed it. I wonder what went on in the writers room that made them go with the worst possible story imaginable.
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My DMGS build is struggling on Radahn :(
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>>483957107
Yeah those fuckers in Inir-llim can spam it at my feet from a million miles away and spread all around me, I was hoping it'd be like a ranged flame pillars or something.
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>invade this morning
>just ganks with rolling sparks and sleep crossbows
shit bros look like the honeymoon period is over, the shitters finally beat the game
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>>483957226
I am still mad that lost 300k runes to that stupid horned shaman spamming Spire right after the first Lion Warrior
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>>483957201
yeah but first they gotta make another armored core game nobody wants
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>>483957201
I hope we can get another passion project like AC6 before then at least. I want FROM to do something weird again.

>>483957298
I wanted it.
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>>483957298
i'm still waiting for them to make an AC game with combat that looks like fun, the particle spam in the boss fights in AC is almost as ridiculous as radahn
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>>483957298
i want that a lot more than i wanted this dlc
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>>483957201
Honestly, I hope they make another souls game but instead make it a new IP. Elden Ring 2 just seems like it'd be really bad, seeing as how we kill damn near everything in 1. What would it even be about?

Pretty sure this is just a dead IP for now and the story is finished. Just gotta wait for the next big Miyazaki game.
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>i invaded Rellena's boss fight again
lol why is this happening?
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>>483957217
What I am being told is the seethe of a Godwynfag that is very much upset his little headcanon did not become true and did not get his edgy Prince of Death fight
You are retarded, and failed to see that Godwyn concluded in the base game. The more mad you are, the better the lore, Godwyniggers deserve nothing
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>>483956640
I'll wait for a mod that makes the tear effect last for an hour, then I'll play through ng+ with it.
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DLC locations are so fun to invade. There's so much verticality and choke points
Belurat has several ladders that guarantee at least one cooper dies.
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>>483957085
good job cutie
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>>483936215
My "point" was that they made the enemies in the DLC different, at the very least in Belurat. Instead of making it a world where people are still living, even if it's fucked, they just added enemies in the corner to attack you. Dark Souls hollow tier.

>>483957217
>I wonder what went on in the writers room that made them go with the worst possible story imaginable.
They decided that they wanted to wrap the story, so they just connected everything either to Messmer or Miquella. Even if it sucks.
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>>483957374
again, i'm neither debating or arguing with you. Not even reading your posts, to be honest. Just explaining why it's so bad. It's shit. As simple a fact as water being wet. Being all emotional and weird and spamming stupid memes just makes me not want to interact with you. Please grow up.
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>>483956845
Go through the castle. Fight rellana. If you mean area north of shadow keep, you also have to go through that castle.
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>>483957298
AC6 was kino, and I wouldn't mind another
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>>483956845
nigga
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>>483957361
>What would it even be about?
GEQ, Godwyn (if he's not gone), Metyr (teleported away at the end of the battle), Shabriri, Tanith becoming the new Blasphemous serpent, etc. They left a bunch of avenues open here.
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>>483957161
Can't you just cast gravitas on the 100 animals gathered outside of putrescent knight's boss arena?
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>boobplate is there even on a male version of Rellana set
Unusable
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>>483957464
The lore is now even better because you are more mad. I hope Fromsoft retroactively removes all Godwyn mentions from the entire game, it would objectively improve the game
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Um melinabros? Explain yourselves. NOW.
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>>483957361
We killed all the gods in DS1 too
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>>483957445
It does feel weird how the DLC feels rushed even though they had a ton of assets and two years to work on it. I'm fond of the "empty" feel of areas just riding around and finding items is fun for me - but well. Some stuff just doesn't feel finished. Certain files being named after the GEQ instead of what their actually named suggests some pretty huge rewrites.
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>>483957298
I wanted it, fuck you. I've been an AC fan since the PS2 days when you were in diapers you bitch ass zoomer.
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>>483957374
nta but how did Godwyn's story conclude in the base game when we didn't even get an answer on whether or not we can kill his bitch ass after the game ends?
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>>483957586
It doesn't feel rushed at all. It's massive and full of shit for a dlc.
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tomorrow i will make funny meme so that it can be reposted on reddit w/o credit, wish me luck
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>>483957564
that's my wife
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Charo's Hidden Grave should've had Malenia's teacher as the main boss of the area
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>>483957592
lmao ye ancient ps2 days
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>>483957615
Maybe rushed is a bad description. I'd personally call it a victim of feature creep. They kept wanting to add more and more to it and couldn't finish everything because they wanted to put it out in ONE DLC instead of over a few like in DS2/DS3.
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Thanks for the tips bros. Just killed Senessax. I used a serpent bow and kept shooting at his head for massive damage.
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what are my stance break options on a dex build
no i will not use square off it looks and feels so bad to use compared to ds3
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>>483956298
Im pretty sure minimal stat requirements into going all out on the main stat is almost always the way to go for all magic type builds. Is it like that in other souls games?
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>>483957586
I refuse to believe you niggers are serious. This DLC contains some of the best content they ever produced, and loads of it. The very map layout being a DS1 esque vertical interconnected world is fucking insane.
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>>483957681
is that place really just a death rite bird and lamenter area?
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>>483957567
That's a good point. Dark Souls also ran on a time look though so... honestly, I have no idea. I wouldn't be against an Elden Ring 2 but I always enjoy it more when Fromsoft tries "new" stuff. Armored Core 6 was amazing. Elden Ring was great.

I guess we'll see what happens. I totally expect an Elden Ring 2 because money, I just don't know wtf it'd be about.

>>483957445
That is very sad.

>>483957501
Maaaaaaaybe. None of those feel like a complete game but sure. I'm sure Elden Ring 2 is possible and very likely to be made because of money. But like I said, no clue what it'd be about.
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I've beaten Radahn as fairly as I could so now I want Miyazaki to understand that I don't want something more artificially-bullshit than this again. I don't mind if this the 'hardest boss you've ever made' you chink cunt, just leave at that. You've cemented your legacy as hard game company. Now make traditional souls bosses again that are more like a dance, where I can use more than the first attack of my weapon's seven attack combo
Like holy fuck if you have to go full zoomerdev and make everything attack 20 times before I'm allowed to have my turn, at least give me a real 'turn'. Let me do a full combo, stop with the fake-turns where the boss is waiting to input read and punish a flask or immediately hit me with a 3 frame slap

Miyazaki if you can't beat your own bosses without summoning then don't fucking make them, it's that simple
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>>483957709
Piercing fang does good stance break. There's probably more, but that was my go to option before Wing Stance which does slightly less, but still enough.
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>>483957501
Nah, issue with elden ring is that you'd have to make one ending canon and that'd piss off people, for dark souls they got away with it since 3 was the only one with any actual changes and that's the last one. 3 explained that both dark souls 1's endings were canon at some point thanks to londor existing and we know the age of fire will end and restart at some point. All dks endings were canon. For elden ring the same can't be done, you'd have to ignore the most completed ending by players, ranni's, the world ending ending frenzy flame, and the two most setting shakeup endings sorrow and duskborn. They can't all work together unlike dark souls. Instead of shitting on player choice or impact in the setting its best to just make a new setting.
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>>483957615
I've noticed a lot of rough edges re: the AI. The bosses are obviously fine, but I'm talking about enemies that just... don't react to your presence, are clearly ignoring scripted AI triggers, randomly forgetting you exist, stop moving mid-combat, etc. It's infrequent, but it's there.
Some areas could have used more time in the oven. Like Abyssal Woods is a great concept, but in another timeline it would have been half-scrapped and refitted to a more appropriate form.

>>483957709
Unsheathe, impaling thrust, piercing fang, lightning slash, etc.
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>>483957814
>without summoning
go back to ds1
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The Lands Between Marika's Legs
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>>483957615
>It doesn't feel rushed at all.
The bugs, description errors and overpowered shit that clearly went through no testing doesn't tell you anything?
You find the same enemies everywhere. "Oh shit, is that a spider-scorpion but now with WINGS?"
At the very least in the base game you have reskinned soldiers depending on the faction they were at. It doesn't happen here since we only have Messmer's soldiers.
>>483957776
No one is complaining about the map.
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>>483957814
Acquire skill or go back to DS1 if you want piss bosses with three attacks and that stand around waiting for your combos to finish
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>>483957841
Go back to *eddit nigger. Go beg for Sekiro 4 again
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How long until people realize that Radahn phase 2 is perfectly fine aside from the visual effects, and everyone got filtered by the concepts of rolling into a boss instead of away from him, and strafing.

I give it two more weeks.
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>>483957702
Nah, rushed is perfect. People are just weirdly emotional with their game. It's fine, autism is really common. You can tell that some places just needed more work done, like the Abyssal Woods or the Shadow Keep or the Cerulean Coast or the Jagged Peak. The idea is there but it's clearly missing those finishing touches. It is a huge map so them running out of time or going over budget would not be shocking at all.
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When will people learn to unlock their cameras?
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>>483957916
>getting attacked 8 times to only respond with a single light attack and even that opening has a high chance of being fake is good design
Unironically rope. You used a shield and put on 5 buffs, you aren't a real person
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Milady with Wing Stance feels so good for low level invasions where you have a mostly classic souls multiplayer with all participants forced into melee
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>>483957989
>and everyone got filtered by the concepts of rolling into a boss
that's every second boss in elden ring
not even a unique gimmick
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>>483957989
the vfx are obnoxious and make it hard to learn, i don't even want to learn him, i just want him to be over
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>>483952659
damn first time seeing that electrocharge incantation, now i want to make a full-on goku build with the martial arts and stuff

i feel like it should be using INT for the kamehameha move, shit
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>>483957795
Yes. It took me off guard and had me searching for a while because every other area has at least one Legend boss (counting the putrescent knight for the coast)
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>>483957615
yeah anon bloodfiends arm doing 20% of a boss' HP with a single R2 is definitely intentional
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>>483957776
lore != gameplay/level design
the level design is great and the gameplay is mostly on point
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>>483957889
>"Oh shit, is that a spider-scorpion but now with WINGS?"
But this is cool. The scorpions were cool. The winged scorpions were cool. I wish there were more of them.
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what is this "ydbtg if you used a shield" nonsense
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>>483958024
I don't use shields I just don't have the reflexes of a geriatric old man. Maybe the Moonlight Butterfly is more up to your speed
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>>483957996
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>>483957567
The difference is with dark souls the main plot didn't entirely focus on them as elden ring does. In each subsequent game they introduced new beings that were echos of the originals as the world primarily relied on the theme or cycles and nothing ever truly changing. If you wanted a continuation of that for elden ring you'd may as well title it dark souls 4 instead of elden ring 2.
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>>483957931
>sekiro 4
ironic for the dude who can't accept that Dark Souls ended at 3
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>>483957804
>>483957831
Or you know, ER2 could take place somewhere besides TLB. There's more to the world than that. It'd let them make whole new lore in the same universe and keep the branding without fucking with anything from this game.
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>>483951271
I made a meme from other people's artwork.
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>>483958096
Nonsense
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>>483957989
No one got filtered by rolling into him retard. We've been trained to do that for 5 fucking games. If anything it's that you were taught to roll into the side where the weapon is being swung but he's got random light beams that punish that
>perfectly fine
Pachinko fights aren't fine. When half of his moveset are moves that are meant to chip you for 30% but be effectively undodgeable, that's just shit design
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>>483958131
Except that if they made that people would just ask where the fuck is the characters they actually care for
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>>483957989
Phase 2 is essentially
"ok, you've learned the patterns, now go do them blind"
It's fine, but it also feels cheap
Much like half of the new ashes of war being old ones with additional effects, Rahdan's phase 2 is his previous moveset with light pillars coming out of every swing
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is there even a point in pure arc outside of bleed procs
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>>483958175
You mean like they did in Dark Souls?
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>>483958121
You 100% used a shield because you exude an aura of worthlessness

>>483958130
Then why are we still playing the Dark Souls character but fighting Sekiro bosses and every ending is clearly meant to lead to one of their previous games? You couldn't call out ironic if it facefucked you harder than you're throating zoomer devs
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>>483958096
It's nonsense
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>>483957702
>>483958009
The issue is this is to be expected. It's the biggest problem with open world and why fromsoft needs to return to their roots. They ALWAYS make partly baked unfinished games, the difference is due to the smaller worlds even the unfinished aspects end up okayly polished. Not so for elden ring for the base game or dlc. Froms development style just doesn't translate well to large open worlds. At best a smaller open world would suit them better if they have to stick to the formula.
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>>483958139
Kronii?
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>>483958079
>got his headcannons brutally dismantled
>started whining about lore in a DLC that explained like 80% of it
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>>483954712
>God I hate the camera in this game. They've been making this shit for over a decade, how the fuck have they not fixed the camera yet?
They have, they just choose not to.
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>>483958215
The community is not the same. And Dark Souls 3 is just Dark Souls 1 but "here's what happened 10 billion years into the future"
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>>483958195
Poleblade of the Bud, poison procs with the new rot kick, ripple weapons with sleep grease. Aside from those three? Yeah, bleed.
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>>483958249
>Then why are we still playing the Dark Souls character but fighting Sekiro bosses and every ending is clearly meant to lead to one of their previous games
Because Miyazaki gaslit himself, same reason everyone is fucking hollow despite everything in the game being actively maintained.
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>>483956839
>>483955071
>>483954854
Managed to get it down in size. Behold: a secret animation!
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how get here
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>>483958249
Whatever makes you feel better over being filtered by anothing more complex than a Black Knight
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Why are most hosts so uninterested in exploring an area instead of going through the straightest way to the boss?
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>>483958024
>getting attacked 8 times to only respond with a single light attac
literally a skill issue
start fitting your attacks between their attacks you dumb retard
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>>483958286
I didn't give a shit about Miquella, Radahn, or Malenia (or Godwyn)
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>>483958131
Maybe? We already know who the creator god of the universe is though and we know the origin of the outer gods so... Without all the Elden Ring stuff going to a brand new continent would feel like a different game anyways.

Mechanically I can see an Elden Ring 2 but honestly, I think story and IP wise it's just a dead franchise now. If it takes place on a new continent you might as well name it something different considering all the lore stuff you'd have to make up.

So maybe. Honestly I expect it to be a new IP that keeps the "two-word" branding. Like Demon Souls, Dark Souls, Elden Ring, Bloodborne, something of that flavor. I don't see this as something they ever come back to.
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>>483958330
Get "O Mother" gesture from a corpse next to a withered tree in Bonny Village
Go to Shadow Keep Back Gate site of grace
Go into the room with the Marika statue, there's a message on the ground there
Do the "O Mother" gesture in front of the statue
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Can I confess? I'm falling in love with messmer I want him to tear off my armor and violate me with his snakes
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>>483958323
Gotta be a bug, mine doesn't do that. Weird.
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Getting walled by Miquella rn
Can a lore understander explain to me why I'm trying to kill him instead of worshipping his divine feet and femboy bussy?
I was actually sad when Ledo turned on me. All this time I felt I was on a journey to meet the most sympathetic deity in the universe. Why am I trying to overthrow him :(
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>>483953278
SotE is a lot like that, summon spirits and NPCs for bosses, this should help
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>>483958286
>headcannons
;)
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>>483958295
You think zooming out on a boss to such an extent where you can barely see your character is "fixing the camera"?
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WOW this pvp is SOOOO fun
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>>483958330
Go to Bonny Village and and try to find a broken statues that IIRC is to the north and a bit away from the village. There you will find a gesture that you need to use to the right of the room before Gaius near a statue of Marika.
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>>483958332
But I beat the boss with fewer crutches than you ever will retard. But I do hope you're having fun with your gay poking shield

>>483958353
>use a weapon that does half the damage of everything else but you can attack once more per combo if the boss isn't designed to punish that too
lol
weapon choice = skill in a series that's always been about flexibility
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>>483958424
not him but if you can't see the character you gotta get glasses or something
But it's still much better than simply not getting to see all the cool animations and spectacle they spent months rigging because you can only see 2% of the boss
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>>483958432
>WOW this pvp is SOOOO fun
nobody sane has ever said that about any DS game ever
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>>483958373
I mean if we were talking logically, I agree with you. But this ain't logic anon, it's money. The shareholders are going to demand more ER, and Miyazaki will be forced to say "ok". At most he could maybe bargain to do another passion project alongside it or before it, but it's gonna happen. The almighty dollar defeats all story logic.
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>elden ring is neat
>making new characters is my shit
>keep trying to optimize the route for the best start
>keep redoing the first two hours over and over again
>the furthest i have gotten with a character is the golden city
>after almost 120 hours of playtime
i will never beat the base game or see the dlc
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>>483958279
sex
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>dragon fuckers get their own personal waifu summon
>imagine if you could summon other waifus
>Millicent dashing around the battlefield cutting up the enemy and when she dies she does a mini scarlet aeonia
>Ranni sits on your should launching Lil projectiles
>Rya sits there in her invincible bubble shouting words of encouragement and occasionally coiling around you to protect you from a hit or two
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>>483958432
Adapt or get left behind
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>>483958380
>>483958447
Thanks
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kai cenat should convince snoy to port bloodborne to PC since he likes fromsoft games now
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>>483958424
Zooming out the camera is all you have to do, the distance is dependent on how big the boss is.
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>>483958527
This game is so fucking empty. I can't imagine doing any of the content more than once. There's too many chores involved in getting to the good parts.
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>>483958195
i honestly dont know enough about stat scaling and whatnot but im pretty sure not all weapons infuse as well as others so sometimes it's worth just checking a website to see how well pure infused/normal STR or Dex might be for the weapon

i could be wrong tho idk
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>>483958536
Don't fuck clocks
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>>483958424
NTA, but that looks a hell of a lot better than the default camera for that boss.
Fuck enemies that are larger than your screen in general. Fuck From for making these meme enemies.

>>483958295
>LockCamParam
Nice. I will tinker with this later. I'm assuming the IDs are character IDs, so you can tune it for each character ID individually.
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>Best friend of Marika's favorite kid was an Albinauric
>Golden Order still hunts them down, same as the Cuckoos because of their connection with Carians
>Radahn and him studied together, being young rivals.
>None of this lore matters in the slightest
>"He's the leader of Messmer's army", yet none of them use gravity? Radahn IS related to gravity and his troops do use Rain of Arrows and greatbows imbued with gravity.
>"He's an Albinauric", yet it doesn't matter at all? How does he feel about Miquella? Haligtree is considered a sacred land for Albinaurics.
I feel like they just wanted to add Radahn 2.0 (YOOO IS THAT A BOAR? I WONDER IF IT'S ALSO CALLED LEONARD IN THE GAME FILES) except that they already have Radahn 3.0 in the DLC.
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>>483958492
They said they have no plans for any more elden ring and the shareholders in charge of fromsoft don't actually get a lot of money from it and fromsoft is a subsidiary of a larger more successful company. It's why we've yet to get sequels of their other popular games, dark souls sequels came from contracts they signed. If they're ever forced to sign more contracts there'll be an elden ring 2. Otherwise just stop the copium and accept that this is what there is for the time being and join the sekiro and bloodborne fans hoping for a sequel.
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>the Chinamen cheaters are finally here on PC
Welp it was fun while it lasted
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>>483952598
>the spiral motif
You mean...the fingerprints?
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>>483958050
>was spoiled on radahn because it was the big leak
>returned to /erg/ after i'd beaten every other remembrance boss
>see all the horror stories about radahn
>gosh, i don't want to do that, it doesn't sound fun
>spend like 2 days clearing side dungeons, exploring, and more or less putting off fighting radahn
>reach him
>expect to fucking despise the "worst boss fromsoft has ever designed"
>get my ass kicked, predictably
>damn... one more attempt
>dang... one more attempt
>darn... one more attempt
>end up enjoying learning the fight, beat it in ~30-40 attempts at 15 blessing with a 2H CGS just rolling around
i don't really get the hate now that i've beaten him. he's hard, but everything he does has an answer that you can easily arrive at by experimenting and using the game's mechanics to your advantage.

or just shieldpoking, i guess.
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>>483958650
>Nice. I will tinker with this later. I'm assuming the IDs are character IDs, so you can tune it for each character ID individually.
I dunno, it was some other anon that uploaded them here so you will have to speak to him if he ever shows up again.
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The Leda fight was actually kino. I'm surprised from made a good pvp gank fight for once
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>>483958195
Aesthetics
Eleonora's Poleblade, bloodflame spells, and you can use the Dragon charm. Plus a lot of Arc stuff naturally wants you using Dex so you end up getting the casting speed on top

Ultimately it's just a feelsgood build, even if the DLC released fuck all for it
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>>483951271
Why does the Light Greatsword moveset slap so hard? It's just so fluid and varied and combos so well. Does any other weapon moveset feel this good?
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>>483958653
Where is it stated Gaius is an albinauric? Also who the fuck is Gaea lmao, his armour mentions them but nothing else does.
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>>483958649
sexsexsex
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>>483958721
>It's Radahn again, but gay and lame
>Phase 2 is just pure visual vomit
>Obnoxious to learn
>Doesn't even have cool boss equipment
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>>483958673
>Otherwise just stop the copium and accept that this is what there is for the time being and join the sekiro and bloodborne fans hoping for a sequel.
Okay first of all, it isn't copium. I don't want another ER title, I want something new entirely. As far as I'm concerned the lore of this universe is now stale and done with. Secondly waiting for Bloodborne shit ain't even cope, it's just straight delusion. That ain't happening with Sony's claws in the IP.
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>>483958649
dont tell me what to do
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>>483951927
Is this censored in the JP version?
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>>483958797
>Black iron greaves made for Commander Gaius. A cruel joke, for he could not wear them. Riding atop the boar he called his other half, Gaius was in fact a warrior of albinauric extraction.

>Who the fuck is Gaea?
Forgive me, Gaea...
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>>483958527
you have skyrim disease

maybe you should just make twink builds for early game pvp
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>>483958762
>bloodfiend weapons
>obsidian lamina
>Ansbachs assault
>poison flower blooms twice
>poison perfume
>poison hand
Fuck all?
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>>483958721
>2h
You just explained why. Other than actual cheese weapons, 2hs have the easiest time against him because he's a boss you want to find chances to trade hits with since you'll inevitably be chipped down anyway. Each phase change and even his gay light nuke is a chance to stagger him. One of my friends beat him in 5 tries and literally didn't know half his moveset because he just took the chance to jump attack
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>>483958721
Whenever I watch anyone else play they're so fucking slow. They're not attacking while Radahn is finishing his animations, they're not positioning themselves in preparation to take a chug, they're not cancelling out of their ending frames, it's no wonder they keep getting hit constantly. You have to play proactive but everyone keeps waiting for their turn and getting mad it isn't coming.
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>>483955331
Godwyn would be a bad boss as well, they should have doubled down on ancient /crucible / cosmic elements
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>>483958772
It's the closest From has gotten to actual swordplay in any of their games, so it looks really nice. The 2H charged heavy's starting stance even mimics Fiore's low guard.
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>>483958873
For some reason his greaves didn't appear in the finger maiden shop for me...I guess they are meant to be found somewhere?
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ALRIGHT /ERG/ HERE ME OUT
We know the greater will is the creator deity of this game, what if, it's the same creator deity in every fromsoft game? It just poops out some item in each world it creates to get things started or affect it in some way. We see archtree like structures in demons souls, dark souls, bloodborne, sekiro, and elden ring(elden beast boss arena) what if those are just the bases for the supernatural aspects of every world since they're all created by the same being
>the old one
>the first flame
>the western dragon
>the chalices
>the elden ring

All things created by the greater will and plopped into the world it made before it cuts contact with the world and makes another one. What if the greater will is a meta reference to the developers.
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Assist Leda or Ansbach? Do I get his scythe and drip if I kill him? All Mohgniggers must die but I will do whatever makes sure I get all his stuff
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>>483958649
Literally handcrafted by God himself for paizuri
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>>483958912
Name two of those things that are actually good. I'd say name one but Obsidian Lamia has an evasion weapon art so it's automatically usable even if not great, so it'd be a freebie for you. Not even including PvP, even in PvE they're all unusable. Bloodfiend and Ansbach's spell are bugged in different ways
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Fucked up and missed a gesture.
Can I just use CE to give myself the gesture?
It is an old gesture, not a DLC one.
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>>483958912
Isn't bloodfiend better as STR/ARC rather than purely arcane?
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>>483959020
Yeah, you find in the area after his arena.
>>483959070
You can.
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>>483959004
As a HEMAfag, I knew there was a reason I liked how it looked
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>>483959059
>even if not great
It has the highest possible AR of any pure physical scythe and has natural bleed scaling. The fuck you mean not great?
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>Been using greatshield and great hammer all DLC
>But certain bosses like bayle have tested my patience to the point where I've had to resort to shield poking
>I feel like Radahn will too, when I get to him
I don't really like the way these games are starting to play.
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>>483958858
Funfact, we may know the actual reason there won't be a bloodborne 2.
https://www.gamingbible.com/news/platform/playstation/days-gone-2-update-539203-20240531

Days gone will never get a sequel, the devs said so, precisely because Sony owns it, and higher ups at Sony personally didn't like the game despite its sales and high praise and fandom. I suspect bloodborne is the exact same way. They just didn't like it and so we won't get another.
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>>483959025
I used to think all the Fromsoft games were not linked and/or part of the same universe but with how things are going I'm not sure any more. It'd be so stupid and take away so much from everything.

So I expect this to be canon. Mark my words Anon, in the future it's going to turn out Fromsoft soul games a part of a shared universe because of how stupid they are.
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>>483959123
Because it's a scythe which is fucking terrible? Oh no you can spam running R2 as your one potentially usable move, and if that's all you want to do then just run a fucking katana. And conveniently there's always been a meta katana with arcane scaling
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>>483959025
>Gwyn has fingers
>the Divine Dragon has fingers
you might be onto something here anon...
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>>483959059
>bloodfiends arm
>bloodfiends fork
>poison flower blooms twice (especially on dryleaf arts)
If you deem these things unusable, even in PvE...I dunno man. I'll admit the perfume and hand are memes, but they are still usable. Nothing is unusable.
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>>483959132
Radahn won't test your patience, he will obliterate it.
>>483959157
It's also the fact that Sony won't let any of their exclusive IPs go multiplatform. Even if Sony wanted BB2, they'd need to get FROM on board with another Playstation exclusive and they'd never agree to that again.
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Hornsent seems like a bro desu
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>>483958934
i didn't jump attack or fish for staggers, i just identified when i had sufficient time to get off an R1, charged R2, or ash of war (i alternated between a few). occasionally i am not exaggerating when i say that i didn't jump attack him once, because it seemed like the only attack where i could consistently do it without trading was the stomp, and i didn't feel like reacting to the visual cue that fast. i straight up just R1'd the guy down and averaged 1 stagger per fight, 2 if i was lucky in phase 2. fight just comes down to learning the most efficient dodge option for each attack, which is a running theme with the DLC.

>>483958975
the base game really tried to teach people that you can attack bosses in the middle of their combos (seriously, just look at margit, mohg, the commanders, the godskins, the crucible knights, godfrey, maliketh... etc.), but it feels like a lot of people simply never learned. people need to be herded into forced reeducation camps where their jump attacks and high stance damage ashes of war are taken away - and they're forced to play with quickstep just to feel what it's like to stick to a boss.
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>>483959236
>both bugged, going to be nerfed because it bleeds the final boss in 2 hits
>7 second chargeup that everything excet light mobs can poise through
lol
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>>483959264
>talk to him every chance I get
>Leda wants to fucking kill him
>nahIdon'twantthat.jpeg
>turns out killing Messmer changes that
>he gets a rant if you summon him against Messmer, just like Igon
>starts going on about revenge against the demigods and marika after Messmer is done in
>get invaded by him in Rauh
He was a nigger to the end.
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This was by far the most unfun fight in every single souls game. Including doing SL1 runs.
Was determined to beat this asshole without a shield/summons/buffs and by god that 2x single hand diagonal slash followed by 1x cross slash attack is absolute fucking bullshit and should unironically be changed. It's impossible to dodge roll it, you will get hit by at least one part of it and it comes out so quickly that you have no chance of outspacing it if you're using a short range weapon. I can perfectly CQC dodge malenias waterfowl with just medium rolls but this move on radahn is absolutely fucking retarded.
Aside from that move he isn't that bad aside from the visual clutter in phase 2. If they toned down the SFX spam it wouldn't be anywhere near as bad.
Looking forward to cheesing the ever loving fuck out of this cunt in the future playthroughs.
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>>483959157
Why is Sony run exclusively by retards?
>>483959264
He's probably the biggest faggot of all out of Leda's companions. Marika was right about the Hornsent.
>>483959034
I greatly appreciate the appeal to both sideboob and underboob that she has going on.
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>>483958424
yes
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>>483959176
>Because it's a scythe which is fucking terrible?
Shut up faggot scythes are cool
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>>483959342
I don't doubt you tried to play through the boss fairly, but ultimately Radahn is 100% catered to the heavy armor poise builds that naturally come with 2H weapons. Half his moveset is chip damage that punishes you for not being able to slam through his health because he simply has more chances to randomly poke you with something undodgeable. Most weapons can't even try to do what 2H does against him because they can't stagger him reliably which is a massive punish window because of how aggressive he otherwise is, and they can't just take the chip knowing they'll chunk him for far more in the long run
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>>483959409
he has a line that's like
>when i get my revenge, i...
>[extremely blatant hesitation]
>i will be contented [in the least confident tone of voice possible]
i wanted to believe in him, but he was fucked
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>>483959415
You're so fucking epic anon, keep being so epic and cool and good at games.
>Impossible
You can do it anon, you're an epic and cool gamer.
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>>483959415
Yeah, that one move is the only outright broken thing. It's not enough to completely fuck you when you can dodge everything else but I can see why people think it feels bad. I found the fight enjoyable despite the chip damage.
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>>483958424
NTA, but being able to see the boss is much more valuable than being able to see your character. Being able to actually tell what the boss is doing allows you to respond better.
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>>483957795
Also a fire giant, a mariner and a hippo.
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>>483958721
you're not allowed to attack with slow weapons AT ALL except after very specific moves. you can't run away, knock down, or interrupt his attacks like you can for malenia. and you can't see shit. all 3 of these are the problems. the delayed attacks, rollcatching, complex flowchart strings, wanting you to dodge specific directions, i have no problem with
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>>483958934
> 2hs have the easiest time against him because he's a boss you want to find chances to trade hits
What the fuck are you talking about he's filled with openings that don't require you to sacrifice health
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>>483959025
How does patches work in this theory since he's in nearly every setting? Is he the Tom Bombadil of fromsoft? A being that's a byproduct of creation that has to explainable origin?
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is moonveil still good? currently using icerind hatchet but want a larger weapon
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>>483959515
I beat him with Milady and 0 staggers and it felt fine.
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I hate these fucking rune arc'd duelist faggots. I'm just trying to do my Varre quest and I keep getting shitters like this. If it's not this place, it's the crabshack nearby with a different duelist.
Duel bleed curved sword varre mask fag. Pulled out the Antspur for it.
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What the fuck is Messmer's problem?
>AIIIIEEEE I HATE ALL GRACELESS FAGS
>rips out his light of grace eyes and starts using abyss
???
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Just beat Messmer on my second try by holding down l1 and pressing r1 once in a while
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>>483958725
it was really great
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>>483959176
>which is fucking terrible?
SAY IT WITH ME NOW:
SKILL.
ISSUE.
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>>483959659
Yeah. MLGS is the best Int weapon in the game, but Moonveil is still good.
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>>483959415
>by god that 2x single hand diagonal slash followed by 1x cross slash attack is absolute fucking bullshit
i know the one. dodge left, not right: https://streamable.com/9t1hq3
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>>483959683
projection
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>>483959157
i mean, days gone was hella boring and depressing apparently only starts being remotely fun like 8 hours in, and the director said stupid things on social media
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>>483959631
>Is he the Tom Bombadil of fromsoft?
Yes, anon.
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>>483959659
Icerind hatchet is fucking trash. You could swap to nearly any other weapon and notice an improvement.
>>483959672
Dude just sever out. You don't have to finish the invasion to do Varre's quest. Just invade, sever immediately, repeat.
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>>483959672
this is the original sin

>>483959683
projection because he's effectively being mind-controlled by the eye implanted in him
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>>483959028
the missable rewards are locked per-playthrough, do a help leda run and a fight leda run. you always get armor.
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>>483959626
Maybe if you haven't gotten past phase 1, and even phase 1 puts you on a timer since you'll inevitably be chipped dude. 2Hs make the fight a joke. If you spend the entire fight looking for only the free openings you're literally gambling, and if your weapon takes 2 minutes to kill him because it does less damage in the openings you get, he has more chances to roll the dice. Especially when only one of these is going to reliably stagger him. It's not a hard concept

>>483959662
Your comment says nothing because I didn't say other weapons can't beat him. I said it's easier with a heavy
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>>483959535
Feel free to post a webm of you dodging said attack reliably with only medium/light roll and nothing else.
Even turboautist ONGBAL can't dodge it with just rolls.
Unless you're claiming to be better than him in which case you should show us your youtube channel.
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>>483959631
Nigga he's even in and originated from ARMORED CORE. Patches is an eldritch multi-dimensional prankster god.
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>>483959820
>Maybe if you haven't gotten past phase 1
I beat the DLC days ago with a milady
>If you spend the entire fight looking for only the free openings you're literally gambling
You're so retarded you somehow convinced yourself "not gambling" is "gambling"
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>>483959659
icerind hatchet is dog doodoo, moonveil is still fine
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>>483959706
I can't wait to see your montage of your dogshit spells and dogshit weapons killing retards so you can totally own people who think the bad options are bad
Sorry Mr. Retard I know you like your edgy slicing stick but it only even has a chance because it has an evasion. Adding more damage to a weapon with a shit moveset that no one wanted to use doesn't make it a good moveset
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>>483959718
This only worked because your initial position when he started the attack was so far over to the left already. I've had the same happen to me a few times but if he starts that move when you are still fairly central you cannot dodge the entire attack with just rolls.
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Are you a chad, or a cuck?
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there is not a single fit in the whole game that comes close to the hornsent set, it's perfect, down to the last minute details.
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>>483959264
>MESSMER! FOE OF MY BELOVED PEOPLE!
>IN VENGEANCE FOR THE FLAMES, MY BLADE I WIELD!
So fucking good. Except for the part that Miyazaki is a fucking hack and made him go hollow.
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>>483959820
He only has 2-3 attacks that genuinely aren't safe to attack after. There is always room to weave in hits.
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>>483960004
hornsent are not people and do not have rights
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holy shit the lion masks are the biggest niggers in this game
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>>483959910
>boss has a chance to use a move that will hit you
>if I keep rolling for the guaranteed openings and giving him more chances to use it I'm not gambling :)
Shut the fuck up retard
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>>483957564
We made up
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>>483959820
phase 2 is just phase 1 with pillars that just check your spacing and a couple meme attacks that all also have openings
you seem like you don't get the fight
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>>483959989
>doesn't even have the sword lance
Cuck
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>>483960081
WHY DO THEY HAVE INFINITE POISE
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>>483959927
Holy fucking cope lol
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>>483960081
>champion gundyr filtering people across time and space
and that's why he is the CHAMP
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>>483960138
it's just almost infinite not actually infinite
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>>483959683
>Messmer loves his mom more than anything in the world
>for this purpose he has become a genocidal maniac who has had his name bismirched
>suddenly you show up
>a literal who
>but the person who is gonna be taking his mom to pound town as far as he knows
>and he thinks you're here to discipline his ass for being such a fucking crazed killer
>literally mindbreaks him
you're just his stepdad putting him in line and he is the rebellious oldest child
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>>483958653
>fromsoft wants to make exactly 10 remembrance bosses
>however late into development they swap Bayle's remembrance for a heart, cuz that's fucking RAD
>we need one more remembrance boss but time is short
>remember that hog rider miniboss? Let's add some lore to him and make him a full boss
>don't bother with the unique ost tho
There you go, I solved it.
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>>483960035
And heavy 2Hs do more damage and poise during those openings, are you daft?

>>483960120
The entire fight is a slot machine where the longer you take, the more you get chipped. I know your ego is attached to proving 2Hs don't make this fight a joke compared to everything else but holy fuck. He's a health rush boss or you run out of resources and your poising stagger machine club is the best possible weapon for that. It's not rocket science you troglodyte
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>>483960083
>boss has a chance to use a move that will hit you
Sounds like a personal issue
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>>483960094
dumb whore, i burnt the entire world to ensure she doesn't have to die, and this is how she would repay me
i'd be better off marrying shabriri
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>>483960081
>kill lion mask in enir-illim
>fucker respawns
i just shot some arrows so he could face the other way and crouched past him
>>483960204
>don't bother with the unique ost tho
what the fuck lmao
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>>483960120
this.
>get to phase 2
>wow this is scary
>start rolling defensively because i'm scared
>realize this is rolling me into the beams of light
>realize he's doing the same attacks from phase 1, with the few exceptions
>roll good
>fight solved

>>483960205
you sound like you're either coping incredibly hard or trolling.
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>>483959028
Helping Ansbach gets both their armors and all their weapons (Leda sword, Ansbach bow and scythe). I don't know what you get for helping Leda.
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>>483960038
they got genocided but you still side with the erdtree folk?
you are a bunch of bullies and villains, and your blood must spill
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>>483960205
>>483959820
>The entire fight is a slot machine where the longer you take, the more you get chipped.
real shitter hours
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>>483960209
>NOOOOOOOOO MY 2H THAT STAGGERED THE BOSS FOUR TIMES CAN'T BE EASIER TO USE I BEAT THE GAME I BEAT THE GAME
lol
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>>483960205
This is true of every single boss and every single enemy in every souls game, in fact in every single action game ever made. If you do more damage, fights don't last as long. Truly amazing, Miyazaki is a hack for making this one specific fight just like all the others, I understand now.
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honestly radahan is just a lazy fight
phase 2 is just phase 1 with chip damage spam
what happened to bosses having interesting new movesets in second phases?
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how tf do i even make a build lmao i usually just go pure strength so my retardbrain doesn't have to overwork itself
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>>483960182
in my headcanon i show up AFTER banging his mom
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I rolled forward a lot with Radahn phase 2, but I just found him really unfun to fight.
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>>483960221
What are you, gay?
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>>483960320
I don't care about your retarded seethe about 2H weapons, they are strong
You are just shit at the fight
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>>483960182
>>483960375
>Waltz into Messmer's chamber
>Just knocked his mom up again
>Didn't even wash her godly pussy juice off my cock
>His snake smells it
Well that explains why he attacked.
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After finishing the DLC I still believe that Bayle was where it peaked. Messmer second best.
Messmer should've been the final boss
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>>483960345
It has a bunch of new attacks in Phase 2 while keeping the Phase 1 attacks with a holy buff

If you got filtered just say so lmao
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>>483960351
56-58-60 vigor
25-30 end for a healthy amount
50-55 of your damaging stat
10 mind if melee, 18-22 mind if you want to cast shit, +38 if you want to never stop levelling up
reqs for weapons you want to use (usually between 18-22 dex or str)
there you go bro
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>>483960375
lorewise probably not
but showing up with his mom still dripping of you is fucking hilarious
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>>483960287
leda gives you 2 talismans, one that increases running attack damage and one that increases backstep/roll attack damage, both are 15% halved in pvp. helping hornsent gives you swift slash ash of way. either option for leda vs ansbach gives you his bow. helping asnbach gives you his weapon and spell after you beat radahn. you always get hornsent's falx and leda's sword as well as armor for all 3 characters.
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>>483959432
>Why is Sony run exclusively by retards?
Because they're suits
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>the whole dlc ends with every single npc dead, again

it would be amusing if it wasn't actually lazy
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>>483960345
he has a lot of new moves in phase 2
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>>483952571
>find a ghostflame curved sword
>it's the size of Miyazaki's Japanese pecker and has a reused Sword Dance AoW that fires off some rancors
wow
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>>483960330
Name one other boss that has a quite literally undodgeable move that no hit runs have resorted to using iframes on backstep charms because normal rolls can't do it and 2 extra instant startup attacks that can do half your health on any build other than tanks
There is a massive difference between "oh I might get if the fight goes on longer" and "you will get hit because he has undodgeables", faggot. The latter is objectively putting you on a timer, the former means you could fight the boss theoretically infinitely
You are retarded

>>483960278
>>483960317
>>483960409
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO my 2h is a real weapon, you're just bad!!!!!! we may only be attacking during the same openings but my weapon doing almost twice the damage and thrice the poise and having literal fucking hyperarmor against a boss that spends half the fight poking you isn't an advantage NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
lol
lmao even
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>>483959789
i like the frost proc and im not that far into the game, just entered the lake area
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>>483960490
i beat him solo no ashes no shield
stop projecting
hes a lazy boss design
compared to gael hes absolute dogshit
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>>483960598
it's still not a bad weapon
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so I know I need to kill Messmer to access the final boss, but he isn't mandatory for the rest of tje DLC right? can I just explore the rest of the areas now or does he lock off other major portions?
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>Wear the heaviest armour in the game
>Still need the fucking poise talisman to break 101
dogshit balancing desu, it would do NOTHING to the pvp scene to have verdigris natively have 101 poise.
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>>483960583
The Hornsent grandma lives. She gives you some soup.
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>>483960621
once you get the magic whetblade from the academy you can put frost on any regular weapon
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>>483960642
Maybe it isn't, but it sure is boring.
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They're kinda silly maxxing atm
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>>483960637
>Get filtered
>Get called out by being filtered
>"Hmm actually sweaty I totally beat him RL1 no Skibidi, now watch this rant about the boss"

Sure thing anon
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>>483960602
>Name one other boss that has a quite literally undodgeable move that no hit runs have resorted to using iframes on
You mean the one that does no damage until the final hit?
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>>483960602
You're saying 2 handers are better because they trade damage and armour through his attacks, which clearly shows you're getting punished for using the slower weapon. Retard.
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>>483960649
you can do messmer second to last
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>one new twinblade (el generico black knight doesn't count)
>it's a meme weapon that won't be charged on any boss and any player will die before it activates
cool
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Anyone else feel like base game Radahn is cooler than Consort Radahn as a fight? He seems to have a lot more "unique" moves that only he could do. Does Consort Radahn even do the Cragblade stuff?
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Are you telling me that there is no golden order spells in dlc? So that it faith character I made with shitty base game golden order spells in preparation for the dlc is useless? Why the fuck is Miquella spells all faith. I know why they did this because of the casual fan base now but this is so dumb
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>>483960649
Only 2 zones are locked behind defeating him. You can explore like 80% of the DLC before fighting him.
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>>483959672
I just don't understand people who taunt for 1v1's when they literally included the colosseum for this type of pvp
why can't they all go there? there are SO MANY of them when i try to invade
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>>483960703
my pliant doll wives
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>>483958540
how do you adapt to this shit? outside of becoming the bad red man they think you are and spamming back with some equally-cancerous bullshit that isn't actually fun to use, how would YOU have dealt with those guys in the webm?
hardmode: you can't just say
>"i wouldn't be invading in the first place"
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>>483960712
>project
>get called out
>strawman and seethe
Lmao at the state of you
Maybe hide your insecurities better
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>>483960792
I would be invading in a better game.
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>>483960770
>are you telling me there are no golden order in the land which is a cesspit full of everything the golden order hates?
um
yes.
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>>483960740
>Get new twinblades
>Bur this one does not le count because I'm a piss baby
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Do you still eventually get Jolan's sword if you give her the Iris of Grace or must you give her the Occultation one for it? I don't give a shit about shitter ashes.
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>>483960740
and why doesn't it count
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>>483960726
No it means you can stand there charging a hyperarmor fuck off move through most of his moveset and stagger him in 3 hits, heal up, then punish him, effectively invalidating his entire kit which is chip and schizo attacks made to punish people that can't stagger or kill him in 1 minute

>>483960721
It's still undodgeable you fucking faggot. Yeah if you're running around with the second tier of armor and 18 skibidi fragments you're only losing 30 - 40% of your health to the single part of the undodgeable, but it's still 30 - 40% of your health in a fight where he will spam it and doesn't let you see what he's doing, so he'll find a chance to chip you again
Undodgeable is undodgeable no matter how you cope
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>>483960820
counts just the same as "i wouldn't be invading in the first place"
apply yourself
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>skibidi level 19
>somehow I missed the last ones I need for 20
>made damn sure to follow the fextralife map to get them all
WHICH ONE'S DID I FUCKING MISS, MITSUBISHI
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>dex arcane builds looking for new weapons in dlc
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>>483960759
I liked the base game fight a lot more. Not just the fight itself, but all of the presentation and the set-up with the festival, Jerren, the giant arena, the boss raid summons, the ability to use Torrent, etc.
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>>483960874
the iris rewards are missable per-playthrough
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>>483960805
Not my problem, I beat Radahn already
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>>483960759
Shardbearer Radahn is better in everything. I don't even like the new remixed ost (1 phase).
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>>483960887
> you're only losing 30 - 40% of your health
no, you're not
that's why the idea that you can get "chipped" to death is pure delusion
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>>483960851
>>483960878
>you WILL take the generic twinblade you already have 3 of but this time it has a different name
My mistake, you got me. Thank you for the slop
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>>483960897
>fextra
look up a yt video
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I fucking love this thing.
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Anything I can't beat is cheesy, broken, and/or cancerous. Anything I use is fair, balanced, and/or non-tryhard.
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>>483960907
Ansbach's Scythe is fucking amazing, but you need to kill the final boss to get it.
At least DEX and Arcane got some stuff. INT got literally nothing.
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>>483960897
>made damn sure to follow the fextralife map
why do you even play games
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Do you just need to gave the sheld on your back to gain the effect on it?
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>>483960960
sure thing pal
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>Beast Champion + Divine Beast Helm (the smaller version)
>Cool new Wolf Shield for Castle Ensis
>Horned Greatsword
>Two Stormhawk Axes on standby

God I look so fucking cool
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>>483960951
Fair enough I was just wondering cause according to fagxtra her questline continues if you give her the Grace one and I wanted to see it but I'd rather just get the weapon.
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>>483960907
Fr, is there anything at all?
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>>483960995
It's just so fucking cool. I keep looking for bosses I haven't killed so I have an excuse to use it.
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>>483960985
>no, you're not
I know you played through the game with max vigor and Bull Armor and then upgraded to Moore's but don't make it this obvious you fucking retard
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How do you get to the church looking place that's embedded in the cliff under where you fight the second Lion Dancer? You can view it from the temple town ruins but there seems to be no path
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>>483961025
it needs to be the active item i.e. you can see it on your bar, even if you're 2handing.
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>>483960703
>that hp bar
they got hit once?
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>>483961112
The one that you access by jumping over the rubble right before the scorpion room?
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>>483960995
i love int bros
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>>483961004
>amazing
I'd love to hear what you think about half the weapons in the game then because it's middling at best dude. It's a scythe that can skibidi backstep that no one will walk into and there's no mobs left to do your cool scholarly spinning thing on once you get it
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>>483961112
jump over the rubble by the entrance to the tower, with all the scorpions. i only found it when i was searching for all 50 skibidis on a video, well hidden
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>scarlet rot and pests are back
why
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What is with invaders just severing out lately? I'm co-oping with a friend through the DLC, but come on, every single fucking invader tries to lure us into aggro and when we don't bite they go home.
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>>483960759
>Shardbearer Radahn
>Related to Ranni
>To find out how to reach Nokron, you can talk to 4 different characters who tell you Radahn needs to get killed
>The whole festival itself

>Consort Radahn
>Best part of the fight is just Sir Ansbach's dialogue. And it's because he's cool as fuck.
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>>483961301
They saw you using some new gay shit and huddling with friends while sitting next to a grace. They respect their time
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>>483960775
Because they want the advantage. They don't want a fair 1v1. They want a 1v1 where if they start losing they can use there double flasks, where they have a rune arc equipped where they're likely a higher level AND a higher weapon upgrade than their opponent.
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>>483960989
not an argument
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>>483961301
Do you expect invaders to rush in to the meat grinder?
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>>483957520
That's why I ended up unequipping it as well. Too bad. Looked almost usable.
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>>483961301
>see something you can't beat
>leave
what's the problem
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What does the Dragon Form actually do mechanically?
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>>483961301
I invaded a guy who was using blood backhand blades doing nothing but spamming the weapon art, i just left
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>>483952545
>he thinks they're not just done with the game at this point and going to patch it
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>>483961363
Neither was yours. "Nothing new" is effectively "nothing" in a DLC where every other weapon is special or has some niche. Tell me what's special about the black steel shit that literally anyone would actually go out of their way to get it when almost every other twinblade is better in every way
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>>483961415
i think it changes your resistances and gives a stacking damage boost for communion spells, 20% i think? idk the numbers
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>>483960995
why do those horned bastards have infinite poise?
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very funny bro
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>>483960094
This is the stupidest logic since you are going to melt her and everything she cares about.
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>>483961467
this is 2024
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>>483960759
Oh, it's no contest. The DLC reveal is horrible and pretty much ruins several characters. The lack of dialog just makes it worse and the way it just "ends" is also terrible. While Consort does have some unique moves they feel very... clunky. The multi-slash and multi-stomp just look bad imo. And they reuse the comet animation again which just felt bad as well.

I am 100% sure the dialog for Miquella when he grabs you was actually meant for a Miqulla ending but was rewritten to be an attack for some reason.
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>>483960792
Maybe invading isn't for you
Try older games maybe you get some there that suit your needs and ideals
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>>483960583
Moore lives if you don't make him kill himself or side with Leda
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>>483961501
it looks cool. it gets a damage bonus when sacred affinity.
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>>483961501
Burden of proof is on you. If you don't like the black steel twinblade that's a (you) problem, but it's new and it's in the DLC. Seethe and cope all you like, the DLC added two twinblades
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>>483961086
>everyone calling me a retard is 2H using, summoning, level 713, bullgoat wearing homosexual
The cognitive dissonance can keep piling up but eventually you'll have to acknowledge your IQ is in single digits
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inb4 bugman cope that aesthetics don't matter
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>>483961342
>while sitting next to a grace
Nope, we were out in the field, just not falling for their obvious attempts at pulling us into aggro. And there's just the two of us.
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I see there is plenty of new faith incantations in the dlc, but there are any cool faith weapons?
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>>483961506
Because fuck you. You won't be able to backstab them either.
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>>483960464
Would Marika's pussy juice be able to restore my foreskin?
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>>483961680
field invasions suck imo, i just sever out if i hit a field
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>>483961686
yes
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>>483961686
death knight weapons
TWO radahdn swords
midra sword
messmer spear
black knight hammer and twinblade
fireknight ugs and dagger
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>>483958432
>turn your back to two enemies, both of which you can see revving up projectiles
>act surprised when said projectiles fuck your day up
>act more surprised when after panic rolling for space they rev up more shit because you gave them the space to
Have you considered not violently sucking dick?
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>>483961686
yes
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>Rellana twin swords
>L2 attacks are blue projectile and fire tornado
I really with it was the other way around
From doesn't seem to know how to do anything with blue magic that isn't some kind of bolt/beam/flying blade
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>>483961686
I liked Devonia's Hammer, Horned Greatswords. Sword of Light/Darkness is also pretty cool
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>>483961549
good job keeping track of time. it's bandai namco however and fromsoft however. just look at how many of their games they leave bugged to shit.
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>>483961757
>Radahn swords
>Faith
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>>483952548
He has entirely too much health that forces you to use bleed to beat him. Otherwise you have to play flawlessly for an inordinate amount of time against his 40-hit strings that all have roll catch/delayed followups and massive aoes as well as taking 60% of your health per hit.
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>>483961813
>it's bandai namco and fromsoft
>look inside
>10 patches before the DLC

I don't know why you want to die on this hill anon
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>>483961813
>n-no they won't do updates for their huge aaa game which sold 5 million copies in its first week!
okay retard
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>>483960501
if i wanna use magic is it always better to use the base reqs for weapons and then go all in on magic stuff or is like 50/50 STR FTH ever a thing
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>>483961635
No, it's just objective. I'm on my backup save and at 74% DR and 60 vigor, the undodgeable part of the swipe is hitting me for ~36% of my hp. If you're taking less damage you're just in the tankier build or overleveled or whatever the fuck. I don't care, you're just full of shit. You ran through the game in Bull Armor like the retarded crutching mutt you are and think 98% of other builds had the same experience
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>>483961762
>just always keep 3 players in your sight at all times
A post that can only be made by a man who never invades
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>>483961896
the former. remember that skills get a damage boost when matching affinity. if you want a good heavy weapon option on int, use a zweihander with waves of darkness on it

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17og1zLnCfdL9TFvTnI4A9Nf9EwkBbutishHPTGBDAE8/edit
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>>483961839
>parry first hit
>no string
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>>483867860
you're a retard I wasn't even complaining and I killed the thing without issue
it's just dumb it has these slow winding up attacks where it leaves its back open to you but you're not allowed to backstab it because the game says so
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>>483951271
If I don't want to plan from the start for a build, what's the best starting class? As in, the easiest one to turn into whatever build you want later?
I don't know what I'll end up using by the time I get to the DLC so I just want something I can easily respec into what I end up choosing.

Wretch?
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>>483961909
>the undodgeable part of the swipe is hitting me for ~36% of my hp
proof?
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>>483962021
My fucking healthbar going down and me avoiding the rest and writing down numbers
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>>483961921
Nigger don't try to be cute by pretending to miss the point. You saw them actively preparing a retaliation and chose to continue trying to monkey mash the guy in front of you instead of disengaging to prepare for what was coming. They go free damage because you got tunnel vision.
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I love ansbach's bow so much, finally feels like I'm not just playing a cucked version of a caster when it comes to ranged battle
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https://rentry.org/ergpocketguide
>Easier
>DEX / INT
>DEX / ARC
Is this still correct? I'm kind of tired of doing PVE with a pure STR build and want something easier.
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>>483962078
>don't attack just wait out their flasks
lol
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>>483961017
>why did you track the only item that dictates your survival in the DLC?
Nigger fuck off, It's the only thing I looked up. Not about to deal some piss-tier damage to bosses that chunk half my health without any of this junk.
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>>483961909
Armor is useless in pve those additional 10% DR won't save you
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>>483962154
dex/int gives you the fastest possible casting speed and dex/arc gets instant bleeds, so yeah those are pretty easy
pure STR still gets double colossal jump attack spam though, you could just try that
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>>483961208
>That no one will walk into
I don't PvP so I didn't take that into consideration. It's very fun in PvE like the Bloody Helice.
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>>483961909
>the undodgeable part of the swipe is hitting me for ~36% of my hp
no it doesn't
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>>483962154
str/arc with the chicken leg is by far the easiest ER has ever been. or rolling sparks if you want to glitch abuse. normal str is also very easy to play so don't expect to have anything be much easier.

if you are using summons, just play int and spam comets while your summon tanks
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>>483962154
there is also dual wield jump attack spam but there is a bit of a learning curve for raptor of the mists
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They WILL nerf Radahn's health.... r-right?
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>>483961909
Which attack are you talking about?
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>>483961909
your skibidi levl?
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>>483962215
It's the literal opposite. DR is nerfed in PvP in almost all forms whereas in PvE, the combination of armor, health, and multiplicative skibidi fragments add up. Bull Armor/Moore/whatever the fuck final tier of armor and everything else that's 2 tiers lower or below ends up easily turning into getting 2 shot at best. 100 poise and taking fuck all damage makes the fight a joke

>>483962275
Angry 2h bull armor man thinks he's a real person and is made when he's proven otherwise lol
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>>483962154
>want something easier.
vitgouging STRiggers is the baby mode of the souls games
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I haven't seen anyone utter a word about the throwing blades in pvp. Are they really that bad?
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>>483962379
>gets nerfed in base game
>gets nerfed again in dlc
is he the most powerful character in from history?
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>>483962171
>hey I turned the camera and saw two guys are actively preparing to attack me with projectiles
>should I back off of the guy trying to get away from me to switch his weapons until i'm sure i'm in the clear?
>hmmmm...nah I'll keep swinging at hi-OH FUCK
This is you. This is how that moment played out for you.
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>>483962282
how is normal STR very easy to play? or are you just assuming all STR is just dual wield jump attack spam?
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I lost 7k runes
It's over...
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>>483962392
The double swipe into cross slash, the second hit is undodgeable unless you're already rolling to the left when he starts the first swing or you're running backstep charms/parrying

>>483962417
18
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>>483962519
elden ring doesn't have soul memory like ds2 does
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>>483961519
The real assholes are the ones that put messages on Igon's summoning sign in Bayle's boss room.
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>>483962494
you just roll and attack it's very straightforward, you get tons of poise damage so enemies don't get to play for most of the fight if you're playing well
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>>483962491
>until i'm sure i'm in the clear?
you just chose to die later as the phantoms can continue getting free hits on you with overlapping tracking projectiles
you don't invade
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>>483961519
bony lookin ass, go eat a salad
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>>483962494
>how is normal STR very easy to play?
How it's not you shitter? Ludicrous damage with good range and constant staggers is baby mode
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I want to make Marika happy
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>>483961870
>before the dlc
well no shit, but now it's after the dlc which they have outright stated is the last piece of content for the game. they literally have zero obligation to actually patch the game now.
>>483961885
need i remind you that they took nearly a full year to fix a basic questline - something that modders fixed on day 2 after release because it was literally just a typo in the script
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>>483952768
And yet your women still prefer us. CURIOUS.
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>>483962450
If they just nerf the visual clutter in phase 2 I would be fine with it. I actually cant see shit in this light show
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>>483962662
nice goalpost moving
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>>483962494
ashes of war is cheap, no investment in mind or barely any FP flasks needed
1,5x str multiplier makes you strong as fuck
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>>483962203
I don't care. Guidefags are cancer. You cucked yourself out of the most fun part of the game - the exploration. Just for a few more % of damage, because you apparently hate fighting as well.
You will always be a maggot.
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>>483962127
That looks fun
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>>483962620
Considering I keep eternal darkness in my back pocket at all times i'd be fine. But hey, whatever helps you cope with your inability to pay attention to more than just the guy in front of you.
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>>483962557
>the second hit is undodgeable
why did I keep dodging it
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>>483962494
>str jump attack has basically the same chance to punish in most boss windows as any other weapons, even fast ones might might might get one extra hit in but still do less damage
>but you also stagger them
>and you wear better armor because you can dump all points in str/vit/end
How is it not the easiest
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>>483962245
>casting
>implying

>dex/arc gets instant bleeds
Yeah that's good.
>jump attack spam
That's good against bosses now? I'm actually using the Greatsword of Solitude from the DLC. I should switch to a colossal, yeah.
>>483962282
I miss the chicken leg in ds2.
>>483962364
Nice, thanks for the rec.
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>>483962127
wtf
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Belurat was really shitty and Shadow Keep was alright at best, is the third legacy dungeon decent?
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>>483962692
how am i moving the goalpost
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>>483962705
>getting cucked of half the loot and events in the game because niggers at from just can't make not needlessly convoluted and breakable quests is le good
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>>483962774
>they won't update it
to
>it took them a year to update it
shut the fuck up retard
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>>483962650
>>483962597
and what do you use? you just naked RL1 punching the boss to death with your bare fists? fuck i hate your kind. who "really beat the game" in your eyes, huh buddy? how hard does it need to be to "really count"? fucking faggots.
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>>483962439
range is super shit, which is the entire reason you want to have a throwing knife on you.
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>>483962725
nice larp
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>>483962127
that looks cool as fuck
>only get it in the DLC endgame
ugh
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>>483962731
You were already rolling or lucky. It's technically frame perfect, but you can look at literally any no hit run and they will be taking a special precaution for it, no exceptions. Some parry, some use the backstep charm to backdash the first swing and roll Raptor of the Mist, but if you aren't pre-rolling the first swing, and only to the left, you will get hit
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>>483962835
Nicer cope.
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>>483962817
i didn't say that
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>>483962681
His HP is the issue for me dude. I should not be doing 22k is like a fucking 8th of his health bar. Then they go and give him huge resistances too man, I'm at 16 blessings and hitting for fucking 450 damage a hit? Come on now. Making it so bleed is the only feasbile way to beat him is fucking cancer. I'm not using your gay fucking katanas Miyazaki.
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>>483962817
nice projection shitter
solve your skill issues first
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>>483962710
>>483962758
I think in that webm I was using shard of alexander + arrow's soaring sting. You can pump the damage even higher if you farm for stormwing arrows and use the storm talisman + the regular arrow's sting, since they all stack.
The birds may be weak to holy, I'm not sure, but it does comparable damage to most things I've encountered.
Build has 57 str/55 dex.
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>>483962817
no one said that
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>>483962839
im gonna ask my friend to drop me a dlc weapon on my fresh character. i wanna see how the base game can handle it
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>>483962809
??????? are you actually illiterate? yes, prior to the dlc, they patched stuff. they have no obligation to patch now post-dlc, therefore they won't patch stuff anymore. i'm not moving the goalpost, you're just not understanding what's being said you fucking walking endorsement for vasectomy
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>>483960004
what's this shield?
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>>483962946
Ask for the Smithscript hammer. Enjoy being able to throw it for like 4k damage.
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>Staff of the Guilty + Impenetrable Thorns
>Blasphemous Blade

Good strat for Radahn?
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>>483962976
again, let me circle around to my first post, this is 2024, post-release support is expected and standard for AAA titles

retard
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>>483962916
im not the one complaining like a little bitch here tbhwy, you sound like a virgin who still lives in their mother's basement. im sure this game is your identity because you have nothing else. it's sad, really. pathetic. don't talk to me again i really don't care about you anymore, faggot. you have a rotten soul.
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>>483962976
Then explain the patch like 3 days ago, dumbass.
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>>483962976
>From literally confirmed they're already working on a patch
Is this some sort of weird epic troll
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>>483962127
Is it locked to leda vs ansbach encounter or you can obtain it along with all his loot at radahn?
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>>483963058
both of those are very slow unless you're summoning
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>>483962936
if even just basic strength is considered "baby ez mode" then by all means: what isn't? you know we're just gonna keep going down the line to eventually wind up at some bullshit challenge mode shit, just admit it. it's all so tiresome.

just let people enjoy the game instead of whinging constantly about how people enjoy it.
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>>483962013
?
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>>483963203
I was given it for choosing to help him instead of the psycho bitch in the specimen storage building, I dunno if it's obtainable if you decide to help her instead.
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>>483962907
>Making it so bleed is the only feasbile way to beat him is fucking cancer.
It isn't. I posted my kill of him in one of the last couple threads and I ran a bleed weapon; you get 3 bleed procs across the entire fight and they only do 1/10 of his HP each. I unironically did better damage with another weapon that was just occult infused, I only stuck with the bleed weapon because I used it all through base and dlc
He's just a faggot, but From definitely took precautions for bleed with him (and honestly most bosses this DLC) by just giving him jacked resistances
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>>483961575
answer the question
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>>483963057
its the carian thrusting shield but hammer sounds good too.
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>>483962127
Oh wow, the fan shot does decent damage? I thought it'd be a cucked ash of war where it's turned into a gimmick.
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>>483963114
>even more weak screamy cope
pathetic lmao
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>>483962705
Searching areas you've already been in doesn't count as exploration.
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>>483963260
you are projecting this "baby ez mode" shit, all the negativity, i didn't say any of that. all i said was that it is the easiest build to play and you won't find an easier one unless you're summoning.
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>>483963207
I want to do this first battle with Anbach + Thiollier. Problem is I do shit damage because of the HP increase so my thought is Impenetrable thorns to abuse bleed and Blasphemous Blade to keep myself healthy
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>>483963260
its baby ez mode because a BUNCH of things turn the game into easy mode if you know what you're doing. STR is no exception. INT is no exception. FAI is no exception.
>challenge mode shit
Even RL1 can be busted as fuck with buff stacking and +25 weapons (which is what matters the most for weapon damage).
Elden Ring is just that game. I don't know why you're this upset saying "uh durr what do you mean it doesn't count"
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>>483963354
that should work yeah, bring a shield
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WHY THE FUCK DEATH KNIGHT ARMOR BOOST ANCIENT DRAGON CULT INCANTATIONS INSTEAD OF DEATH SPELLS AND THERE IS NO ARMOR FOR DRAGON COMMUNION BUT THE UGLY ASS NAKED DRAGON FURRY MODE YOU EVEN NEED TO REFRESH BUFF
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>>483963297
It's "decent" but you're still going to be burning through over 99 arrows trying to kill any bosses with just a bow. I don't think From is ever going to budge on the notion that bows should just be occasional tools for exploring the overload and to put them away when it's boss time.
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>>483963262
I know, just wanted to know if you do get it later if you skip the whole fight through helping hornsent but apparently nobody knows
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>>483963435
because the death knights were servants of godwyn who were dragon cultists from leyndell
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>>483963447
>you're still going to be burning through over 99 arrows

>rot, then poison, and then bleed
Makes every DLC boss very easy. Unfortunately it's less about the bow and more about status effects being strong.
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>>483963435
>HE UGLY ASS NAKED DRAGON FURRY MODE
it's 10% armor for 0 weight and the +20% damage buff lasts a minute, what the fuck are you crying about? It's perfect for blue dancer charm which btw affects all your physical dragon communion spells which are the best ones anyway.
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>>483963447
Bow could easily kill bosses in demons, probably the reason why they are still so butthurt about them
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>>483963545
Rot and poison stacks? Somehow I never thought to try that.
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>>483963260
You can enjoy the game however the fuck you want. I'm personally of the opinion they made this DLC this bullshit because they wanted you to use Mimic Tear and rot breath and shit and just adjusted accordingly. But being free to choose your build and not be judged doesn't mean strength doesn't have it the easiest. This isn't DkS2 - 3 anymore where light weapons have an advantage because they get off 3 more attacks. Everyone equally only gets one real chance to hit, but str users are given their chance during that time too, and their shit gets more bang for buck.
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>>483963585
It does but it only shows one visual effect at once
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>greatsword of damnation's l2 is a fucking grab attack
>it counts as a crit so it's boosted by the dagger talisman
>even if you miss the grab it has a followup aoe that burgerflips people
who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
because it is
holy fuck this thing is amazing
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>>483963260
Easy doesn't mean bad you tryhard shitter
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>>483963556
>DUDE JUST SPAM DRAGONMAW
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What attack rating am I supposed to have for Messmer? I have a maxed out quality Milady at 727 AR, and when I hit him his healthbar doesn't even do the yellow flash down.
Should I just come back with more than lvl6 blessing? I can't imagine I missed any fragments though, I explored thoroughly. Maybe in front of the Keep.
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>>483962937
He is perfect
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how do I get down into that ravine?
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>>483963801
>I explored throuroughly
You can get to something like +18 before Messmer
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>>483962937
>>483963827
Leda...
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New

>>483963875
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>>483963875
>>483963875
>>483963875
>>483963875
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>>483962752
>now?
jump attack spamming has always been baby easy mode because jumping removes the hitbox from your legs and lower torso for a full second and starts even before you've left the ground so many attacks and all ground stomps just phase through you.
While also getting the jump attack talisman boost to damage.
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>>483963691
The L2 even has hyperarmor unlike every new spell they added
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>despite hours of failure I need to resist leveling up or using cheese like shields/bleed/consumables/summons/buffs/broken weapons and ashes vs Radahn
It has been 8 hours but he will fall to my buckler and claymore!
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>>483963341
>i didn't say it was "baby ez mode"
>all i said was that it is the easiest build to play and you won't find an easier one

?????
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>>483963746
Greyoll's roar (great debuff for any fight) and rot breath are also physical damage.
golden vow + dragon buff + 2x seals + dancer + flock talisman makes you shit out damage. You can even throw flame grant me strength ontop for even more but I dislike its short duration compared to golden vow and dragon body buff.
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>>483960759
he's a billion times better.

consort looks like sillyman on steroids and a shitty color palette.
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>>483960094
>Inherent the frenzy flame to use your own body as kindling sparing her life
>wake up In Farum Azula
>Discard the frenzy flame
Bam save her life and have a good ending, she shouldn't have doubted the tarnished plans
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>>483964082
Does it matter if it's dragon waifu form or not?
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>>483962651
kill her kids and marry her, it's even the default ending
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>>483963841
pretty sure that erdree near moore ruins is involved
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>>483964040
read the rest of my post
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>>483966179
>i didn't say your mother was a whore, joey. i just said she sleeps around with a lot of guys and really likes sex, ya know? i didn't mean it negatively, joey, ya gotta believe me!

this has real "i said no offense at the end so it isn't really an insult" vibes. but whatever this thread is over. point is your kind will never be satisfied and it's exhausting.



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