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>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-1123

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
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>Previous
>>484767513
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What size chastity cage would Miquella need?
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>>484789504
good OP
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Reminder the Putrescence spells are legitimately very strong. Don't sleep on them.
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>>484789604
He wears a golden flat one with a little charm of his crest thing on it
>>484789694
Gimme the quick rundown I haven't looked in to them yet
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DAILY REMINDER WE TOLD YOU FAGGOTS EVERY DAY FOR YEARS THAT MIQUELLA IS GONNA BE EVIL. DAILY REMINDER THAT EVERY DAY FOR YEARS, PEDERASTS INSISTED HE WOULD BE A NUANCED CHARACTER!
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>>484789694
Where do you find the not-Cannon of Haima one?
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i dont understand!
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>>484789504
Good tummies. Prime raspberry material.
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Rellana is such a horrible character that zoomers playing this game will go “zomg she is like a better wizard than Ranni and Rennala put together zomg” and this truly does piss me off.

I am so fucking tired of battlemages. The charm of the Carians was all about magic knights defending their sorceress queen, who was above them.

Now some retarded battlemage is above the pure mage? Obviously not, but these idiots new to the game will still think so.
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>”What if old boss… but new for dlc?”

- Hesayama Meohzachary
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Ranged with a greatbow is the only fun/reasonable way to kill dragon bosses.
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What holes in the lore are left to explore in the next DLC?
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I like Milady, but it having such little poise damage is such a drag. Rapiers flinch more than it.
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Can someone give be an idea for a build that is 100% beating the game
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Leda's set is really making me want to do a FTH ng+ playthrough. Is her sword any good?
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>>484790017
I just spam Wing Stance when I want to do poise damage. The R2s also stagger well, don't they?
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>>484790085
R2s dont lol
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>>484789912
I really wish they just stuck with the two moons to keep them special =\

Captcha: WHY2YY
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What's the lore explanation of Radagon and Marika being the same person?
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>>484790085
I guess. I just love the standard R2 into R1 combo and it sucks it feels largely useless.
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>>484789504
Week 2 of begging for someone with writing skill (AKA not me) to write a Messmer smutfic where the snakes intertwined with his body have rubbed off on his biology causing him to experience snake mating seasons
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>>484789791
>Mass
Like Haima but better. S tier for long range bullying in PvP. Pretty much any time they're blendering an enemy you can launch one fully charged and slap the whole party for 700-1100 damage depending on dmg res stats etc. What makes it best is how absurdly big the AoE is and how subtle the blob of goo is when it lands.
>Vortex
Amazing spell. Controls space like you wouldn't believe. Super good for casting while being chased. Generally tricky and strong in closer melee battles too. I think people will eventually learn how to handle Vortex but for now it's really strong. Immaculate spacing lets you squeeze more damage too, there's a hurtbox where the vortex touches the ground that does minor damage that preceeds the wave of ghostfire that travels inwards towards you.

>>484789872
The final region of Stone Coffin Fissure. I -think- it's found by jumping down and to the left from the midway checkpoint grace? Don't count on it.
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>>484790082
I haven't been able to actually try it yet, but her sword's skill is a dispel so you can at the least make people mad.
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This is an old level 120 arc build I used to use for invading Farum Azula. Not as a meta thing mind you, that was just the level range where I got the most endgame activity without a constant parade of grace duelists and taunter ganks

But 120 gets me sweet fuck all in the DLC so I'm bringing it up to 150 now. How should I increase my stats?
10 levels into vigor is a given but I'm torn between:
Sticking with straight dex so I can get closer to the damage softcap
Amping faith to 15 or 23 so I can use some dragon communion stuff without physick buffs
Amping int to 11 so I can use smithscript weapons (even though they all kind of suck with arcane infusions)
Amping strength up so I can use Mohg's Spear, Chicken Leg, Meteoric Ore Sword, etc. without needing talisman/gear buffs
Maybe a little end or mnd for more stamina or more WA spam (I don't really care about poise so I don't need equip weight for the armour)

There's both a lot I can do with 20 points, and at the same time not a whole lot. It makes the choice difficult
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>>484786794
>Aquamarine Dagger

It astounds me that Fromsoft can be satisfied with releasing weapons like the flame knight shortsword and spirit glaive after making the Aquamarine. How they can find "base game weapon but with good fire-infusion scaling" up to their own standards after making the masterpiece artwork that was the Aquamarine?

If you're not going to try to make something as good, at least port that shit straight into Elden Ring. I'll gladly take a rehashed weapon over another quickstep-locked somber dagger that has dogshit scaling and an identical moveset to every other dagger in the game.
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>>484790082
>the little tuft of pubes peeking out from the thong
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is this just garbage?
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>>484789849
>PEDERASTS INSISTED HE WOULD BE A NUANCED CHARACTER
he is though
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>>484790270
Fucking queer faggot. You shouldn’t feel bold enough to state your fetishes in public.
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>>484790281
Interesting. I haven't played any pvp in a while but all the new stuff seems like it might be worth getting back in to it some
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>>484790281
I've been unsatisfied with Vortex on my PvE character. How have you been using it?
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>>484789906
>radahn gets to fuck this
Unfair...
I'm the strongest in the lands...
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>>484790281
haina is better than the delayed fire one imo
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>>484790403
Aquamarine Dagger was clunky as fuck and awkward to use. It was a failed concept that tried to stuff way too many different actions onto a single button.
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>>484789504
Now that the dust has settled, it's time. Time to pick your Top 5 Waifus.
>VOTE NOW ON YOUR PHONES
https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3q5KkyA
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https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3q5KkyA
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>>484790504
why do you want to fuck a guy?
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>>484789694
How good is Fleeting Microcosm?
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>>484790546
It was fun once u got used to it. i used it a lot in pve and pvp
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>>484790579
>waifu
>more than 1
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>>484790404
>little tuft
Garbage. Full bush is peak.
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ayo what the fuck
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>>484790504
sorry sweety but he is bigger than you ;)
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>>484790546
It was not clunky at all, it had a perfectly understandable moveset that was contextually based on what action you did prior. If you know what button you pressed prior to L2, you know exactly what the dagger was going to do. The only hitch-up was the running/rolling L2 not transitioning into neutral L2s smoothly for some reason.
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What level is the DLC? I'm 150 at the moment and have millions of runes.
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Remember to always block chinks.
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>>484789504
MY WIFE
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>>484790729
You've unlocked the Nier Automata crossover DLC
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>>484790820
whatever level you want
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Ringed City was better. Gael was a better final boss. Midir was a better dragon boss.
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>>484789912
I really didn't think much of it and to be honest I think she's not that interrsting. Like yeah, Rennala has a sister and she went to the RoS after being coerced by Mesmer to join his crusade. She has a cool design and it gives the DLC reason to have carian enemies. That's cool by me.

Personally, I find Count Ymir much more intriguing... A sorcerer, caretaker and seeker or knowledge who is probably at the same level as Lusat and Azur in terms of knowledge of the stars and the world itself
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>>484790082
>pubes peaking out
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>>484790448
Basically yes. The gimmick of it is being a way for faith builds to apply frostbite. It can also multihit big targets for pretty substantial damage and an instant status trigger but it's still outclassed by the dedicated big target killers.

If its requirements were about 10 points lower I'd call it a worthwhile intermediary damage spell for pve progression since you get it relatively early, but at 34 faith you're just going to have bigger nukes on hand by the time you can cast it. And honestly you have better sources of frostbite by just grabbing one of the frost WAs from Liurnia and slapping it onto a secondary weapon.

In pvp it's literally just a worse version of Hoarfrost stomp and even as delayed AoE area denial there are better options.
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>>484790909
And her trannoid brother
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>>484790579
>Nepheli so low
I’d call you all a bunch of slack jawed faggots but it’s more chocolate barbarian goodness for me so please continue enjoying your shit tastes.
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Reminder that you should be invading at enir ilim to help the lion boys
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>>484776251
>>484788173
I refuse to believe anyone can struggle with a boss where you can just do this over and over again lmao
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484790981
Low quality bait. Not even worthy of a (you)
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>>484790820
Official fromsoft recommendation is to start the DLC at 150. There is no recommended 'end' level
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>>484790995
Count Ymir and his questline were honestly the best parts of the DLC for me - I feel like the DLC would've benefitted by spending more time on that and less time on reimagining existing characters.
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>>484789906
why are soft twinks so much more feminine than women nowadays

it's really fucking with my internal desire to protect
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Are Marika and the Golden Order... the bad guys?
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>>484791157
Anon the fuckers don’t even NEED my help. The few invasions where they’ve been present I’ve basically just been moral support as they assfuck anyone that enters their line of sight.
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>>484791273
Hornsent aren't people. So no.
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>>484791273
Get in the jar faggot
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>>484789906
Those hips, good lord
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SEX WITH OMEN WOMEN
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>>484791273
Hornsent deserved it
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>>484791273
No. Technically everyone is just trying to interpret their own thing. We now know that the Greater Will was never even an involved party.
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>>484790791
Also being staggered during a stance attack would force you to re-enter the stance immediately upon recovering, and since the stance has a long startup that cannot be cancelled into a roll and can only be cancelled into stance attacks, you would paralyze yourself and create truecombos by ever being in the stance when you took damage.
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>>484791168
>>484791168
>>484791168
can soneone tell me whoch post hes referring to
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castle Mensis has only one spawn point
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How do I avoid getting btfo by "Somewhere a great rune has broken"?
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>>484791273
No?
Especially not after what we learn in the DLC
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>only radahn left
>still some builds and weapons I want to try
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>>484791438
Don't go past the Bonny Village bridge
Don't go past the Camp with the Furnace Golem outside of Shadow Keep
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>>484791374
you can't spell WOMEN without KYS_
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>invade with full Rakshasa and the sword at level 110
>NOBODY can hold more than 2-3 pokes
>some people are dying with a single jump attack
>some people are trying to trade into it and dying too
>can still push my damage by 20% with the Power Within tear
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>>484790206
Marika looked at herself in mirror one day and went, "damn, I'd fuck myself no cap" and separated herself into two halves.
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>>484791417
wtf i do not remember this
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>>484791339
I've only been invading there it's the best especially when you scare the group into the little room at the top of the stairs and the lion knight walks in
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is fire knight's greatsword any good? (for pve)
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>>484791157
>>484791339
I want to make a Horned Warrior Cosplay build, they're Str/Fai right?
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>>484791273
>hornsent brutalize and torture people
>one of them strikes back
>OYYY VEYYYY, YOU CANT JUST PUNISH US FOR THE TORMENT WE INFLICTED ON YOUR PEOPLE
Hornsent deserved what they got, everything else Marika did to other factions and species was pretty damn unnecessary but the hornsent in particular got what they deserved.
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>>484791689
Yes
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>Gaius
More like Gays
Why is every boss in the DLC so bad?
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i like him and he likes me
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>>484791717
STR/FTH yeah, I’d recommend using the crimson seed medallion too since the lion head gimps healing flasks.
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>>484791798
Because they're all gay
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>>484789504
Stop posting Miquella. Stop lusting for little boys.
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>>484791413
>sent the Elden beast to fuck with the whole planet
>his daughter is a maggot infested abomination
>the Greater Will was never even an involved party.
he was always there, in a way.
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>>484792080
non
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>>484791637
I swear those lion fuckers KNOW they’re king shit of fuck mountain when the way they saunter onto the scene.
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So is the erdtree in the Shadowlands that's dead a completely different tree? And then they have a sapling of it growing in the Shadow Keep?
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>>484791882
I murdered him for his armor and shield
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Why can I not put scattershot throw on claws but Claws of Night have it on them?
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>>484792157
rude boy
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>Blood Great Scythe
>Stormcaller
>Enraged Divine Beast
>Shard of Alexander
>Two-Handed Sword
>Lord of Blood's Exultation
>Thorny Cracked Tear
>Bloodsucking Cracked Tear
HNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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>>484792142
It's the Shadow of the Erdtree, Anon. It's in the title.
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do all the npcs that follow miquella die horribly in true berserk fashion?
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post characters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcKxMoJB4L0
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>>484791882
He's a big step up from those conniving nomads. He's like a merchant savant
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>>484792302
very good
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>>484790496
In PvE it's good for when you're surrounded by assholes or as a good opening move on a group of idle enemies.

>>484790527
Nope. Haima is easy to see and easier to dodge and doesn't even do frostbite. Mass of Putrescence is far better. Haima is still good but if you can meet the reqs I'd go with Mass every time.

>>484790628
Haven't even seen it used except for once and I just rolled away. Dunno.
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Is the Midra weapon any good for PVE? Currently swapping between FKGS and the sunflower depending on the fight wondering if I should try it out
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>got invaded while helping a guy with renalla
>he just kinda shows up in the second phase
is this a bug or have I just never seen it happen?
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>>484791421
>>484790981
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>>484792302
Holy based
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I just tested the Smithscript daggers and HOLY FUCK I think theyre acrtually good now. The range is insane.
The scaling adjustment doesnt seem that bad, less than 4% of overall damage.
I might actually make a build with this.
They deal pierce damage, does that mean I can use a counterattack build? or does that only apply to melee armaments?
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>>484792142
No, the scadutree is the erdtree
its physically located in the exact same spot, you're simply seeing it from its 'shadow side', which has two trunks and curls around. Its the same tree
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I finished the base game. I want to re-launch a playthrough for the DLC. I tried launching a NG+ but the game is too easy now.
I launched another fresh one but all my motivation vanished cause I'm thinking about all the shit I have to do again.
What to do?
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>>484792302
Based and zombie pilled
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>>484792302
Whose? My friend's? They don't play elden ring
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>>484792410
a bug or PC friendo using Collector's Edition ;^)
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>>484792540
its just a bug, it can happen sometimes in radagon's arena too, you're just obsessed
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>>484790448
All these attacks, where you jump into the air and have a long windup as the lightning manifests into your hand before you spike it into the ground, would've been infinitely better with the lightning stake animation (and poisecasting) from DS3.
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is there any point in a pure strength build? 80% of the heavy weapons seem to have an int or faith requirement
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>>484791545
:(
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>>484792540
what would the collectors edition have to do with it?
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MADE for endless hate sex filled with blood and stabbing and crying
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after playing through this game like 5 times i'm pretty sure that the actual easy mode is just using large weapons that do a lot of stance damage (not counting summons, of course)
you can just stance break things and continuously hit them
meanwhile if you're using "light" weapons (mostly dex weapons) you just have to keep dodging nonstop, even against normal mobs, and hit them once every 5 seconds
same for magic, if you exclude cheese like summoning and using pebble from afar or comet memezur against bosses that stand still
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>>484792410
It's a bug. They got confirmed to invadebut took long enough to arrive that the part where you kick all invaders out with the fog wall was missed.

>>484792540
Nah it's a bug for sure. CE would walk right into the boss fight.
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>>484792302
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Does the oil tear apply its full effect in pvp?
Can it be used to amp pure fire damage AoWs to absurd levels?
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>>484792402
nanaya's torch and greatsword of damnation are both SS tier pvp weapons that are useless in pve
midra's flame of frenzy is insanely bad and unuseable unless you're just using it to purposefully self-frenzy yourself to trigger old ones exultation / black dumpling, its the fastest way to get your madness up so howl of shabriri triggers it
and its completely unuseable offensively for the same reason
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>>484792674
Just like throw some levels into those
A lot of pure INT/FAITH/ARCANE stuff had dexterity or strength requirements
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>get summoned for radagon
>hosts name is “NG+7 GOOD LUCK

Uh oh
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>>484792410
i used to abuse this regularly on release. if you load up the invade as they are entering the fog wall it wouldnt boot you, then you can wait for them to get to phase 2 and it teleported you into the arena with host an phantoms. weirdly enough the invader cant see the boss but can still see host and phantoms.
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>>484792732
ah ok, I was so confused I kinda just ate shit to an attack and died right after so I felt pretty bad for the host. He wasn't even attacking us so I think he was just as confused as we were
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Ohhh I get it
The Scadutree is the shadow of the Erdtree
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>>484792667
what I really wanted from ANY of these super slow and telegraphed incantations, from dragon spells to rotten butterflies and messmers orb, is that instead of floating 1 foot off the ground with zero poise, you ascend to 10 feet off the ground where melee attacks can't hit you at all and get infinite hyperarmor once you're airborne, but its still super telegraphed and dodgeable

all these spells are fucking shit as long as you just hover a few inches off the ground immobile and defenseless. At least Placidusax's Ruin makes up for it by being the most all-in finisher move in the game because it has a -ZERO- frame cast animation while jumping to deal its aoe lightning damage wrath, before the 10 second long self-stun
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>>484792883
>posts pic disproving what was written in post
correction you can see boss model but not what it was doing/ spell effects
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Old Hunters was better. Ludwig was a better first boss. Orphan was a better final boss.
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>>484792142
Its actually 2 separate trees if you look at it closely.

Presumably, the straight, thin one is the original Erdtree (Referenced as The Great Tree). Notice how thin it is, in comparison to the Erdtree in the Lands Between, which is much bulkier. The Erdtree we see in the base game is essentially a Greater Will recreation / corruption of the original which was "removed" from The Lands Between when Marika sealed away the region in which the DLC takes place.

The second tree which is circling around the first is abit more of a mystery. Im not sure if its been entirely figured out yet - atleast, im unaware of it.

Some anons speculate its a kind of "Curse" from the Hornsent, strangulating the Great Tree and pulling it down. Others mention it could actually have been grown by Messmer, and intended to hold the Great Tree up, given its location and the fact it is well guarded and hidden behind Messmers keep..
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>>484791417
I tested and did not have this problem and do not recall ever having it in all the hours I've used the Aquamarine.
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>>484793006
Stay away from the fog wall... some spells and AoWs can go through it...I usually just spam my best fogwall spell and hope the host chokes.
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>>484793091
>greattree conspiracies again
Please just die already
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>>484792907
The fact that Scadu is pronounced Shadow makes it really dumb because it makes the phrase "The Shadowtree is the shadow of the Erdtree" which sounds really dumb to me
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STOP SUMMONING TWO PEOPLE THE FIGHT TAKES FOREVER REEEEEEE
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>>484792674
Pure strength builds are the best efficient builds in PvP and low level PvE because you can softcap your damage with just 54 points in strength and spend everything else on vigor, endurance, mind, etc
Even if you had a min strength caster with a weapon with no str requirement and popped pure fai or int scaling, you still use up 1.5x the attribute points to get the same scaling. Strength gets that free bonus to 2H and then a 15% 2H talisman
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>>484792730
This. I find it funny how most people that whine about INT being LE EASY MODE are using giant weapons that stance break bosses in 3 hits. That is the easiest way to play the game (assuming you're not summoning.
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>>484793062
>-ZERO- frame cast animation
Ye I've bullied people with that before lol.
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>>484793138
it was probably a prepatch thing because I don't remember it either
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Base Elden Ring was better. Godrick was a better first boss. Radagon was a better final boss.
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Wait so why did we stop miquella again?
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>>484793360
i dont know
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>>484791273
Unironically yes, but also no.
>B-But the hornsent d-
The game is about cycles of violence and abuse, and also shitty mothers. The abused become abusers. The hornsent had some kind of retribution coming, but not on the scale she committed, and for that sin the Omen curse was unleashed on the Lands Between. Then she wound up fucking up raising her kids, and used Messmer as a scapegoat for her own actions. She was a shit mom and a shittier god.
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>>484793360
He's a faggot trying to steal your throne
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>>484793091
the lore in-game specifically says that its the same tree with two trunks, one curling around the other
trees split like that all the time

its one tree, the erdtree, which is the scadutree, which is both trunks
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>>484792485
The best way of using them is headshot fishing. Both in pve and even in pvp.
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>>484793360
we hate gay people
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Is wing stance any good in PVP? I've been trying to use it, but the start up is just soo fucking slow.
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>>484791882
I'm glad the DLC gave us some heavier armors that aren't as ugly as Bull-Goat's. Still wish we'd gotten a Golem armor set.
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>>484793403
>Not on the scale she committed
She didn't wipe them out enough
TOTAL
HORNSENT
DEATH
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>>484793360
Because you bought the dlc
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>>484793360
He was getting too hot. That's dangerous.
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When is the actual patch dropping?
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>>484792730
To go with my suggestion that light weapons shouldn't deal any posture damage at all, maybe heavy weapons shouldn't be infusable with status elements and get a nerfed buildup with greases and applied effects like chilling mist.
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>>484793582
I want to pull his cheeks and see if they stretch like taffy
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>>484793085
i beat the lion on my first try cause i was scadu 5 (pre buff) and i was like wow whats everyoes problem that wasnt that bad. then i got to the second lion and jesus christ i hate that boss.
>>484793091
You know what tree grafting is? I think the trees give life to the lands between, the original tree might have been dragons, then golden order grafted over it, the demi humans and omens are like the failed/warped fruit from the graft or something, idk
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>>484793664
when its pushed to servers
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>>484793270
Its got a pretty reasonable damage for a finisher too, 241 lightning which is a bit more than an uncharged lightning spear (234)
won't ever OHKO anyone but it can definitely take down someone at ~30% hp instantly with the right build and its impossible for them to react, only to preemptively roll
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>>484793360
Miquella removes his own ability to feel love, fear and to have any doubts. His Great Rune literally places a charm on people, robbing them of free will.
His Order means a "compassionate" world where he enslaves everything and everyone. The refusal will be gently met with immolating light.
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>>484793421
>the lore in-game specifically says that its the same tree with two trunks
I haven't heard this. Whats the source?

Also if you go to Scaduview and look down, you can see there is a considerable distance between the sources of the two trunks of the trees. Not necessarily discrediting the idea that its the same tree, but its a clear intentional design choice that they made to have them originate so far apart.
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>>484793582
I wish I could be his cool older sister who he knows he can always rely upon
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>>484792302
Just clownin' around
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>>484792496
bump
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i just found the poisoned hand. seems like it'd be better than madding in pve.
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>>484793810
Idk
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>>484792496
take a break
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Are there any precious items in this arena or can I leave
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>>484792730
>>484793247
My first dlc play through was a colossal weapon. Currently doing a Dex and it's so different it's crazy. I didn't even know about half the attacks these enemies have.
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>>484792736
>filename
based
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>>484793360
Because the throne belongs to YOU and no one else. The Tarnished is a selfish protagonist.
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>>484793403
>Omen curse was unleashed on the Lands Between
There's no curse. Horns are just Crucible's RNG pranks. They will always happen naturally, unless you mess up with the Elden Ring through Dung Eater's mending rune which makes everyone into misshapen omens.
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>>484793940
it takes like 1minute to go around the arena to see for yourself
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Still searching for this finished picture...
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Thoughts on this so far? The fact that it scales so well with FTH is enticing.
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>>484793781
>The head of a monstrous shadow sunflower manifestation of the Scadutree. Then again, it might be just a flower, wielded as a weapon. Much like the Scadutree itself in appearance, a second stalk winds tightly around the first, almost as if in a tender embrace.

>Remembrance of the Scadutree Avatar, hewn into the Scadutree. The power of its namesake can be unlocked by the Finger Reader. Alternatively, it can be used to gain a great bounty of runes. The Scadutree is the shadow of the Erdtree. Born of dark notions that bear no sense of Order, that twist and bend its stock, rendering it brittle.
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>>484793797
he cute & mischievous
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>>484791272
Because you're a retard who fell for the anglefrauding and filters.
Men are men, you'll know one by how his skin feels alone. Not that you'd be able to tell the difference, as you've never touched a girl.
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I only come here to jerk off.
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>>484792302
damn that's good
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>>484794086
Very interesting, but they need to make it charge up faster. Probably the most uniquely distinct ER weapon mechanically.
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>>484792730
radahn wasn't bad with a zwei for me. i could get a good r2 or l2 heavy on him.

he absolutely sucked with a kat.
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>>484793907
You know what. You're right. I'm tired of it, spent too much time in the lands between.
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>>484794217
>anon lost his grace
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cite the first 5-10 bosses of the game
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>>484792302
I'm a simple man to please aesthetically
>heavy armor
>big sord
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>>484794086
Its very underpowered. Its basically just a split holy infused twinblade with a bad weapon art you can't swap out.
The charge up takes way too many hits, punishes you for power stancing and fades WAY too rapidly to be remotely useful. It gives a miniscule bonus to holy damage while active and barely impacts the weapon art since all it does is add the ranged beam (no extra damage, just range) and then lengthens the spin time (not like you'll ever get full duration on a boss. Or charge it up in the first place)

If you just used Eleonoras Poleblade and spammed its weapon art you'd not only connect more hits, deal more damage and poise, you'd proc blood multiple times.
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Going into the DLC using my INT character
>41 Vigor
>50 Mind
>20 Endurance
>12 Strenght
>22 Dexterity
>70 Intelligence
>6 Faith
>16 Arcane
And now I want to try to be a more melee centric build, so ( I think) I should do a Int/Dex build, larping as a Carian Knight.
How should I change my stats? Any ideas for weapons, besides Carian Straight sword and maybe Moonlight GS?
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>>484794076
I'm obviously not judging since I domt have much artistic skill, but yeah I've been waiting for an amazing WIP I saw to be finished and then she posted an updated WIP and it had barely anything worked on from the first one days before and it caused me pain
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>>484792302
TARNISHED I AM THE ONE
ERDTREE BURNIN' SON
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>>484793360
Because videogame
They forgot to give us an explicit narrative purpose in this dlc. We start with one--to follow Miquella's footsteps because he's apparently doing something good. Then we somehow betray him for reasons never made explicit and his followers turn on us, despite the fact that our literal actions never change.

It feels very much like a glaring oversight. Some sidequests suggest that Miquella's goal may not be good but while the base game gives us options with how we handle that information that leads to different endings (killing the elden beast to replace it, killing it to make a better order, killing it for the sake of others, killing it as part of a wider plot to end the world, killing it to free ranni), the DLC doesn't. We either kill Miquella for St Trina's sake (because muh caged divinity) or we do it because "there can only be one Lord" which I think only comes from an item description AFTER you kill the boss.
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>>484794056
oh didnt realize there was a wall thought this shit went on forever
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Reminder that Radahn is THE tourist filter
Fucking cretins come into these threads, just having hopped on the ER hype-train, and then when they get their fragile ego hurt by an actually semi-demanding boss, they cant stop coping about "undodgeable" attacks, and "flashbangs", and "10000 second long anime combos". Then if you tell them they're bad at the game, they'll just revert to adhoms or appeal to some fucking arbitrary gaming authority.
Shoutout to that one faggot, with his numbered list of flaws about Radahn, all of which are batshit insane and retarded takes written by a total shitter noob.
I cant wait for all of you to fuck off once the next FOTM thing drops, so we don't have to listen to you screech about undodgeable attacks and oneshot moves when several of us in the threads have already no-hit the fucker.
>B-b-but the doubleslash is a free win card for him!!!!!!
Strange how that didnt apply to me or other people with ABOVE doubledigit IQ then?
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I hope you nerds are ready I just need 1 more achievement and then I’m going to pvp all your dicks off so get ready losers it’s happening today.
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>>484794339
Soldier of Godrick
Ulcerated Tree Spirit
Tree Sentinel
Flying Dragon Agheel
Fallingstar Beast
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>>484794374
Mind you Eleonora's is the worst twinblade in the game already--worse even than the shitty black gargoyle weapons. Mediocre bleed buildup can't save it from its bad WA, bad unique R2s, bad reach and bad AR for a split damage weapon. For Euporia to be even worse is fucking dire.
Why did this DLC give us TWO bad faith twinblades?
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>>484794485
you should just respec, int has a horrible time in this DLC
most resisted element across the bosses, least new DLC items/spells/arts/talismans/tears and all the bosses spam gap closers that make it impossible to cheese them with magic
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>>484794153
kino screenshot
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>>484794664
This pasta is undercooked, don't post it again
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>Offmodel Marika pic
>Abhorrent post
Every single time
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>>484794702
>Soldier of Godrick
right
>Ulcerated Tree Spirit
is that at the end of the bullshit rally dungeon at the first grace?
>Tree Sentinel
where?
>Flying Dragon Agheel
right
>Fallingstar Beast
where?
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this game is hilariously fun. every hard boss the game gives me a npc summon and then lets me summon my jellyfish friend. I get ot mash heavyies into the boss' asshole and it can't do shit. it fills me with glee that I can faceroll this to pieces while other people bitched and moaned about difficulty at launch. this is so funny. doing things the "wrong" way is so fun.
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>>484794795
this poster has an absolutely fried brain. Retarded to the max. The most amount of dum imaginable.
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>>484794664
Didn’t read + you’re a worthless coomer.

Radahn is a shit boss that is only fun when you abuse broken builds instead of fighting him normally.
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Every boss would be improved by having Igon as a summon
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>>484794795
I heard you had fried brains, is that freaking true?
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>>484794795
Eleonora’s poleblade is good, wtf are you on about? It carried me through the base game and the dlc up to Radahn. It has one of the best AoW in the game.
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>>484794927
>>484795019
Hi fags, wanna tell me about how Radahn is a badly designed boss because you, and your equals (read: swarthoids and mutts) can't wrap your head around anything other than a 3hit combo with 2 mixups like every other boss?
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>>484795046
I wanted to use his bottom but the description says that the cloths smell horrible and I couldn't do it for roleplay reasons because it seemed weird to wear clothes that stank
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>>484794867
Is the DLC really that bad for INT? Mind you, I already played the dlc with my FAITH build, abd I didnt saw much interesting INT stuff already, but still there is something.
Or should I respect to a full STR build?
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>>484794117
sure anon
whatever you say buddy
I'm sure you're touching so much skin nowadays
men and women
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>>484794932
curious behaviour indeed
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>>484795201
imagine the smell
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>>484794559
I think even the base game doesn't have enough direct storytelling. It's too big and too elaborate for the obscurantism of ye old souls games.
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>>484794485
>50 mind
the fuck are you doing?
60 vig
35 mind MAX
at least 25 end
str/dex for requirements
80 int
fth/arc for requirements
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>>484794664
Don't care. Post more Marika.
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>>484793185
it's actually perfectly fitting but you need a big brain to understand the humour of it and why it is perfectly emblematic of the entire attitude and mentality that went into making the dlc and thusly is reflected back to players by it, Shadow of the Erdtree is their Funniest work yet
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>>484794795
eldenora is a pve bleed proc monster what you smoking
yes it doesn't get full status on every hit but you just spam the weapon art and fly around bleeding the fuck out of everything
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>>484795546
38*
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>>484794503
[WIP]s are cruel
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>Supposed to be a super fast nimble weapon
>It's R1's take as long as a fucking colossal sword with less damage because the animations are so long
Bravo, it's complete shit
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>watching story trailer again
>music goes crazy, tone changes to hopeful
>"But we are not deterred. We choose to follow. Will you walk with us?"
>Goosebumps EVERY TIME

holy fuck bros...the music, the visuals, the dialogue...its perfect...
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>>484795201
Pumping.
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>>484795046
Only if he has a custom speech for each boss.
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>>484794559
It's another case of "You enter, kill everyone, and then leave" but they forgot to even add a reason to why that happens
>you need to kill romina to burn the thorns because you need to, okay
>>484795735
its so fucking good
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>>484794795
eleonoras wa gets retard hyperarmor though
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>>484795352
yes respec
all int gets in the whole dlc is carian sovereignty
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>A giant mass of intermingling Crucible attributes. Reduces damage taken from critical hits and head shots and improves the effectiveness of rolling and backstepping, but also increases damage taken at all times. Rumored to have sprouted upon giants and is known as the "mother of Crucibles" in ancient tower lore.
This suggests that the giants are the oldest of all the races, right?
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>>484795735
And then their interaction is extremely disappointing and Leda is ready to kill everyone with 2 hours of gameplay.
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>item guarded by five enemies
>smithing stone 3
for what purpose?
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>>484795956
to upgrade your weapons, silly
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>>484796021
bro your bell bearings?
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>>484795956
Subverted your expectations that there'd be a real item there
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>>484795956
>Miyazaki/Tanimura: "Tee hee we tricked you!"
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>>484795695
pissed me off when I read weapon descriptions
"""""swift"""" spear but its R1 is actually slower than normal spears, and its just a multihit attack that does 77+77% damage except it has artificially low base damage to compensate, so you're eating double defense reduction on a slow attack
and rest of moveset is just the same as spears, except its low damage
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>make new character
>play for 10-20 hours
>make it to altus
>now i need 20-30k to level up
>getting paranoid running around with more than 20k
>mogh is nowhere to be seen
>normal enemies take lol no damage
>i miss limgrave
>make a new character and start over
must have done this 4-5 times by now
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What is this damage output wtf
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>>484795196
You might think it's good because it's the worst of a good weapon class, but you'd immediately realize how silly that is if you used any of the other twinblades and realized the difference. Eleonora's has half the bleed buildup of a blood-infused twinblade while dealing less damage than one, and that most of the weapon art's you can actually put on a twinblade are more consistent and effective for damage, stagger and bleed buildup.

It's bad all around, and is bafflingly the shortest twinblade ontop of being straight up undertuned.
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>>484795956
Because this DLC is a fucking joke, that's why.
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>>484795380
Nah, not nowadays, but I had some longterm relationships.
Hows the AGP?
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>>484795956
placeholder item
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>>484795956
90% of dlc items are just
>mushroom
>plant
>cookbook
>rune [3]
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>>484796180
Don't you love having the AR of a colossal on a weapon with all of a colossal's best moves but faster and longer?
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>>484795695
I like how the R2 isn't even the double hit that some smaller spears already have but the basic ass spear R2 single hit.
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>>484796180
HOLY CRAP, DID YOU JUST ROLLCATCH A RoB-SHITTER, TWO TIMES IN A ROW?!?!?!! OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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which two greatswords slap the hardest when dual wielded
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>>484796265
There aren't enough 'real' items in the entire game to replace all of the bafflingly shit loot and low tier smithing stones in the DLC. They aren't placeholders, Fromsoft just bit off more than they could chew with the open world again.
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>>484795956
Only Miyazaki knows. Even the biggest slurpers won't be able to defend this shitty design.
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>>484796369
I love having 2x the AR of a colossal with 30 poise damage with the range and speed of an R1 and less recovery time

cipher pata truly is a great weapon
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>>484796180
It only needs to land 1 arrow to get full damage of all the arrows, just like the claws of night. Don’t worry it’ll be nerfed into the dirt in 6 months
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>>484796180
>summon rolls off a cliff
why does this happen every time
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why didn't Miquella just give us a mending rune of peace and love to solve his problems with the erdtree/golden order? It worked for Ranni, Fia and Goldmask so why not him?
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>>484796470
Double Milos. For the bleed and for the AoW.
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>>484795735
>And everyone dies at the end because uhhhhh pathos????
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>>484796470
Cold iron greatswords or blood forked greatswords.
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>>484796552
Because my lust for his blood was too great.
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>>484796547
Maybe it's an actually intended interaction for pvp
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>>484796547
It fires 8 arrows, and a single target can be hit by at most 2 of these arrows. Hitting with only 1 arrow only deals half the damage / status buildup of hitting with 2
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No scadutree blessings run is moving forward. I managed to beat Putrescent Knight. Shadow keep is next on the menu. God bless deflecting hardtear.
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Why did i kill malenia and miquella and messmer and the finger mage dude and romina and rellana. I’m just an innocent man.
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>>484795853
Why is Romina safeguarding the tree left there by the people that burned down her church anyway?
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>>484796670
It's not, because 1 arrow also applies the status buildup of the whole shotgun, which allows it to instasleep people through like 900 focus on a bow that doesn't have arc scaling.
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>>484796552
He didn't want the Golden Order to be the framework, the Golden Order still relied on the subjugation and vassalage system and blessings of grace, he wanted a universal system of love which required a new God and the removal of the Golden Order
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>>484796470
If you power stance lizard greatswords, does it shoot two projectiles with an R2?
because lmao
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>>484796746
>tries to do a "challenge-run"
>using the most busted buff possible
...
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>>484796903
A challenge run is like locking yourself out of one thing and then using others to fill in the gaps
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>>484796812
Belurat and Hornsent culture seem amenable to or tolerant of rot. Remember the bigass Scorpions are a Romina thing and Hornsent let them guard the front door.
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>>484796903
You wouldn't be able to do what he's doing even with the tear.
Stay in your lane, nerd
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>>484793403
If I were a god and someone harmed my family I'd marika'd them and their generations into oblivion. Violence is le bad is for western basedcucks, revenge is based.
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>>484796719
Currently if a single arrow hits the target, it behaves as if all of the arrows hit the target.
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Idk where to get the deflecting hardtear still
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>>484796901
If this was DS2, it would.
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>>484797078
first furnace golem
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>>484796994
No, lmfao
>>484797002
I've beaten Radahn on Scadu 0, I think I'm fine.
But you're just gonna say I'm lying, and we'll get nowhere.
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>>484797078
First fire golem in the DLC
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>>484796812
Her position relative to the tree is a gameplay contrivance. She's protecting her church and is just coincidentally in our way for the sake of having a bossfight.

They could have just as easily had the sealing tree placed somewhere in Shadowkeep but they wanted Rauh so you get that view overlooking the tower.
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>>484797014
>Someone harms your family
>Go apeshit on them
>Then spend the rest of your life harming your own family

Bravo Marika!
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>>484797231
>>484797248
Whahuh
I've had it this whole time then I didn't realize
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>>484797260
Or she just wants to keep Enir Elim shrouded to protect it and it's inhabitants.
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>>484797237
>But you're just gonna say I'm lying, and we'll get nowhere.
I'm glad you're playing out your schizo ramblings in thread.
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>>484796539
>cipher pata
pfff old and busted
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>>484797407
Nice deflect, keep coping tho
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>"jerren on his way to beat miquellas ass once he learns what he did to radahn"
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Ringed city was better
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What's a weapon that counts as beating the game for Radahn?
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>>484797537
Ringed hallway
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>>484797537
Artorias of the Abyss was better
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>>484797315
God, I would let her harm me.
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>>484797434
>>This versatile armament can be swung about like a fist or used in the manner of a straight sword.

>Its just the standard Katar fist moveset

I guess they were referring to the pata's extended reach but why name-drop a specific weapon class with a distinct moveset to do that?
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>>484796180
I dunno it looks like you just hit a retard with 10 vig
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>>484797457
>Nice deflect
Please articulate what's being deflected.
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>frog post
>it's bad
Ah...
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>>484797474
>two based boomers are the ones most offended by what Miquella does
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>>484793360
Because he is a rapist.
Because he thinks others are only pawns in his dumb fanfiction of a "better world".
Because he does not care about anyone but himself and he does not care how many people he will have to sacrifice.

And he likes fucking corpses of his family.

And because Malenia deserved better.
And Mohg.
And even that dumbass Radahn.

Depraved little shitheads like Miqqy should be killed with fire. You know them - guys and gals who think that pretty face and being born "better" gives them the right to fuck other people over.

Good Miquella is a dead Miquella.
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>>484797601
Only your bare fists count
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>>484797537
Crown of the Old Iron King was better
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>>484797605
I prefer the non-open world more linear approach than the massive empty that we get with Elden

really hammered home that "dead world" aspect
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>>484797315
but muh heckin potterinos :(((
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>>484797631
Too lazy to give it 1h straight sword animations
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>>484797537
All previous DLCs were better, even DS2's.
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>>484797663
>699 + 560 + 242
That's like 40 vig, not bad for a typical host in 120 range
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>>484797808
>even
DaS2's DLCs set the bar for fromsoft's quality. Only The Old Hunters exceeds them, and only because Bloodborne was already such a good game.
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She/You can fix him
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>>484797035
nope, its a multi hit attack with 8 fired, 2 maximum hitting the same target
Its possible that all 8 arrows are applying their status buildup independently while only 2 deal damage, but I can't speak to that without extra testing
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>get tagged by Impenetrable Thorns in a gank
>it instantly does 2400 damage through Bubble Tear
Holy fuck what is wrong with this thing
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>>484797884
Ringed city mogs both
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>>484797995
Nothing is wrong. It has 6 hitboxes. Don't get shotgunned.
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>>484797892
I can't wait for this and the thorns spell to be nerfed
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>>484797995
Highest damage in the game.
Something something don't get hit, it's totally not OP, something something
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>>484797537
boss wise sure. level design wise? hell nah
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>>484797682
I can fix him.
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What the fuck do we think?
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How do I bloodflame incantations? I assume I should use the Dragon Something Something talisman? The damage is kinda lackluster.
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>>484798127
>I should be able to tank shotgun spells
It hits for like 500 if you're at mid-long.
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>>484797601
>weapon
YDNBR
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>>484798165
i dont think
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>>484798195
>How do I bloodflame incantations?
You don't.
>>484798229
Almost every single shotgun in the game has hit limits and the ones that don't are only full multi hit against large bosses.
The nerf to rolling spark was directly addressing this. But fuck, I don't have to convince you, it's not like you don't know it's going to come.
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>on paper that this is the only ER DLC
>Miyazaki hates sequels
Godwynbros...this can't be happening...our golden prince will never return...
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I assume it's impossible to duplicate the Heart of Bayle?
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>hate underground areas because they're fucking spooky
>have spent a solid 2 hours now under leyndell flinching around every corner
make it stop
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>>484798165
Boring and not very great
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>>484797996
>ringed shitty
The only thing it had going for it was adding an Old Monk fight, which base DaS2 already had.
>weapons
Generic, low-effort movesets. The vast majority of special attacks were generic or fancy but impractical and shit Most builds got nothing.
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>>484798165
would be S tier if you could free aim it, but it always goes the max distance away unless you lock on
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>>484797434
>>484797631
I love how

>cipher pata is acquired at the very start of the game and is busted as fuck
>coded sword is acquired all the way in deep leyndell dozens of hours later and is huge downgrade
>pata is deep into the DLC super endgame and is worse than either
lmao

unblockable blade on cipher pata deals 297% damage / 30 poise and is super fast / low recovery. On coded sword its 250% damage / 30 poise but much slower. Then impaling thrust on pata is only 187% damage / 18 poise and not only slower but super long recovery time

its astounding how much better cipher pata is
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>>484798343
You assume correctly.
Rejoice, both options are terrible.
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>>484798337
It's not going to come. Don't challenge thorns in tight spaces or if you do, respect the fucking spell and roll it properly. If Flames of Frenzy is ok, so is this.
I can't believe you're mad that a spell that's easier to dodge than Death Lightning or whatever else is fucking shitnup in close combat.
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>>484797537
Factual statement. From Shit fell off, Miyazaki is a hack and a one trick pony.
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>>484797890
Is there even anything to fix? Does he have things wrong with him?
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>WORRY NOT, MY FAIR PRINCESS, OH MY FAIR MAIDEN HOSTCLITTY. IT IS I, MARVEL_ANIME_TRANSGENDER_RESPECTOR_69420 THAT SHALL DEFEND YOU FROM THIS EVIL, TRANSPHOBIC, XENOPHOBIC, FAR-RIGHT FASCIST INVADER CHUD
>DO NOT SULLY YOUR HANDS MY MAIDEN FOR I SHALL BANISH THIS EVIL FUCKING NAZI TRUMP SUPPORTING CHUD GOD I FUCKING HATE HIM SO MUCH FROM OUR WORL-ACK
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>>484798347
I'm just like you and honestly the panic of going deeper and deeper under Leyndell was outstanding, probably my favourite videogame experience ever
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>>484798165
Hey you posted a picture of Miquella's Light
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>>484792385
I see mass gets compared to haima, in pve only does it do the same damage and range or you're forever stuck with haima as throwable nuke?
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>>484798504
pata is a pvp weapon existing solely to kill the katar
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How do you store a running attack so that it comes out without warning from a full stop? I keep seeing grace duelists pull this shit.
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>>484793758
Rock Heart+Placidusax sounds nasty
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>>484798504
You can't use Impaling Thust on Pata with infusions.
You're still going to get assraped by the running R1 spam with dual spears range however.
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Miyazaki please... TV show
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Finally switching my build up after using Blasphemous Blade for the majority of my second playthrough (dual weild colossal maces on first playthrough)

Just got Relanna’s twin blades and want to use them. Anyone messed around with it? Better to powerstance it or run a Milady in the offhand? Also, any suggestions for incantations? I haven’t messed with sorcery much so I figured this might be a fun time to work in some of those since the twin blades benefit from INT as well.

Any thoughts lads?
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>>484798646
That's exactly the kind of nu-chan zoomer lingo I expect PvP players to use.
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>>484798165
Decent spell, but most bosses in this game are so fast and spastic that the tracking cant keep up
Also
>2 slots
Dont know why they thought this spell needed two slots requirement. Its decent but it aint that good
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>>484798646
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb9NT2Et1XI
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>>484798589
>It's not going to come
I'll screenshot this for prosperity.
I'm sure you'll still be here.
>if flames of frenzy is ok
It's balanced around full hits. lmao
It does a fraction of the fucking damage.

Again, there's no point in this conversation. I look forward to your response. Something along the lines of "WHY DID THEY NERF IT"? or something.
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>>484794960
The jelly is so damn good. It can tank most enemies if you keep upgrading it, it is ranged, keeps the poise meter from regenerating and can even poison.
I was surprised how long I kept it on my first playthrough, had to be around draconic tree sentinel at leyndell when I noticed it falling off.
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>>484798709
its a pve weapon too, as every faith caster already figured out

the biggest complaint against it was that its unuseable against the endgame boss gauntlet but that's not the case in DLC, and it takes 3 weapon arts to poisebreak the 80 poise bosses
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whats the point of no return triggers? can i break the great rune after killing lion dancers and getting the roofie from thollier?
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>>484798859
There's nothing to nerf, you're just a retard with bad judgement. Fucking put the robustness talisman on and right there you're kneecapping it's peak burst potential but Nah, fucking adapting just shriek and whine any time something new is viable. Stop getting shotgunned pussy.
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>>484798754
Rock Heart doesn't affect Placidusax as Placidusax does not count as a dragon communion spell.
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>>484790579
why is Melina so high, what did she do for me in the story, or are people voting her cause she's hot?
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>>484798646
....that little piece of shit is actually good? I just picked it up on my first playthrough and forgot about it because it took 30 faith
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Is Miquella basically a metaphor for the current state of the Trans "community"? All about love and everyone talks about how kind and nice he is, but in reality he/she put a spell on everyone to force them to say nice things about him/her, and is secretly a Harvey Weinstein-tier sexual predator? also making him look like a kid to dunk on the pedos is a nice touch. really covered everything with the sexual deviants in the West if you think about it, including grooming.
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There is no good ashes of war...
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They really cooked with the skybox
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do they stuff kids into the little jars?
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>>484799218
because she has more than 2 dialogue lines
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>Did they just give thorn sorcery a high end big damage spell?!?!
>NO! ONLY GLINTSTONES AND FIRE GIANT AND DRAGONS AND LIGHTNING AND FAITH SHOULD HAVE HIGH END SPELLS WITH BIG DAMAGE! THORNS IS SUPPOSED TO BE WEAK DOGSHIT!!!
>AIEEEEEEEE MIYAZAKI SAMA SAVE MEEEEEEEE
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>>484789901
What, you don't like the big black dildos area? You're a mutt you should be excited
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>>484793360
flower loli told me to kill him
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>>484799357
the new occult one is alright
>>484799404
its getting nerfed
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>shoot a full moon at commander gay at the start of the fight as he charges at me
>it just flies straight through him
ok
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>>484799327
ansbach bow requires no faith and is bugged to deal more damage than it's supposed to
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>>484799512
He knows that. He can't cope.
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>>484799512
Ashes of war are all bad...
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>>484799361
that would be a real ominous shot without the golden trees
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>>484798589
Nah fuck that trash spell I see it on every mage I invade now I hope it gets trashed the tracking is too good and if you're not looking at them you're dead no matter the range
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>>484798754
>Anonymous
Unfortunately they forgot to set Placi's spell school and neverfixed it so it's not considered dragon communion NOR dragon cult and isn't boosted by anything. It used to have a communion scroll background but they literally patched that out so I guess it's on purpose
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>>484799512
Nah. It's fine. You're just a salty loser who hated getting killed.

>solid but not unreasonable damagebat long/mid
>heavily terrain dependant
>Easy to dodge even at optimal range
You're such a whiny loser it's pathetic. I face it and I use it and it's not overturned, it's just GOOD.
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>ifunny
>Seething wall of text
Not a good look bro
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>>484799736
They nerfed crystal ringed shield in ds1, lightning spears in ds2, soul geyser in ds2, heavy curved swords including dancers swords in ds3, shields in ds3, sonaf in elden ring.
Nah it's going to get nerfed.
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>>484799736
It's an instant bleed, and it actually is pretty hard to dodge since it can sometimes blend into the ground.
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>>484799748
meant for >>484799404
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>>484799404
Yes, DS2 is bad, thanks for finally getting it.
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>>484799674
Lmao that's never the case. People are using it because it's insane for nuking PVE but the PvP complaints are just unbridled bitch tears

>>484799701
Placi is not earned through communion
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>>484793360
because you're elden lord and miquella seeks to usurp you and marika.

also this >>484799498
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>>484793360
He wants Radahn to be Elden Lord and not you
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Ok I'm getting back into the game today.
I need a build recommendation. What kind of cool weapon/spells can I get before the mid-game that's DEX based and not INT based. Either Faith/Arcane since I'm not a faggot.
But since I didn't play with any spells on my previous game, I don't know any of the more efficient spells.

A bonus question: How harder/easier is the NG+ compared to the initial game? Will I roll through the whole game if I'm level 150?
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>>484799361
They really did.
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>>484799869
You just listed retarded obvious overtunes right next to basically thorns just getting it's comet variant. How DARE thorn spells get a big boy high damage spell! That's FORBIDDEN!

>>484799882
No it isnt. I use it and I face it. It bleeds sometimes sure but maybe just increase your robustness if you see thorns lol.
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>>484799914
>Lmao that's never the case.

Ok so instantly wrong off the bat I'm not engaging you
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>>484798803
The two swords have separate scaling, the fire sword benefits from FTH while the magic sword benefits from INT. It's also worth nothing the fire sword is a straight sword and significantly shorter than the light greatswords, I'm not sure if that matters with the dual wielded hitboxes.

Anyway if you off hand Milady you replace the fire sword, but if you main hand Milady you combine it with the fire sword and have more attack options as you have access to the full one handed move-set of Milady and the dual wielded move-set of Twin Blades both and they combo into eachother. But you don't get the unique AoW but it's not that good anyway, I also suspect the two different attacks of the AoW have separate scaling for FTH and INT respectively.
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>>484798589
>If Flames of Frenzy is ok, so is this.
Holy fucking cope
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>>484800102
Compare comet to that spell in terms of damage.
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>>484799940
hackers are so fucking lame holy shit.
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>>484800123
I use it and fight against it Anon. If you die to it, you deserved it. It's only deadly at close range. This idea that you're just gonna die anytime a mage casts it is pathetically exaggerated nonsense from a bruised ego.
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So to make sure, the implication is supposed to be that Radahn was never real, right?
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>>484799361
Not really, always has been the weakest part of the game. The skyboxes often just look like pixelated clouds.
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>>484798337
>You don't.
There's gotta be something, right?
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>>484800218
Comet is better
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>>484800064
You won't notice much of a difference in NG+ until you get punched in the face by Hoarah Loux.
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>>484800218
It's very similar at long range and at close we already have spells like Death Lightning that can 1 shot entire parties with big dick storms of 3k damage Bolts.

Any whining about it is poor judgement from salty retards.
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>>484800284
what?
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Reminder that PvP balance discussion is irrelevant and should promptly be ignored.
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>>484800309
the bloodflame buff if you can give enough fucks to use buffs
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>>484800301
The fact that several skyboxes have visible seams is absolutely maddening.
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>>484800317
post proof
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So is Mohg ripped as fuck under those robes?
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Anyone else feel like Elden Ring has got too mainstream?
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>>484800427
It's going to get nerfed whether or not it deserves to be because so many people are using it and saying its the best spell in the game for nuking bosses. You can thank youtubers.
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>>484800687
..............................
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>>484800687
Always has been. It was GOTY.
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>>484800687
Even gen alpha know about it thanks to that streamer nigga
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Has anyone made a Smithscript dagger build? I know fextra has, but I dont want to do another bleed build.
Now that the range ahs been significantly extended, it actually seems like fun.
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>>484800627
Absolutely, just like Gul'dan in the Warcraft movie
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How has no one commented on the S tier foreshadowing of the Divine Beast Dancing Lion fight being an an analog for Radahn/Mohg/Miquella?
Both are a golden lion with horns protruding from their bodies, donning a red cape and golden mane of hair. The Divine Beast even has two rows of teeth, one beast and hone human row, which is exactly what Radahn’s Young Lion helmet is. The Divine Beast Dancing Lion is also piloted by two mortals (Radahn and Mohg) but gets it’s power from a deity (Miquella).
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>>484796167
based
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>>484800627
we won't know since he wears pajamas
though sure looks so
https://youtu.be/zRIMbk5hgMI?si=IP4golpZKy8z95h6
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>>484793062
But what favorite thing ever is knocking you dummies down with a throwing knife. Over and over again until you realize why you keep flopping. Try it it’s hilarious
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>>484798791
What an awful idea, seriously.
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>>484796812
Romina is a Hornsent and might be protecting Enir Elin itself.
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>>484800745
They aren't wrong about how valuable it is for bosses. It took them about 2 years to stop Comet Azur cheese and desu, it's still viable just not a hilarious and brainless instawins.

It's gonna be fine. At most they tweak the bleed a smidgen or maybe just add one of those limiters where the mutlihits can't do big bleed buildup quite the same as before.

They don't usually nerf shit unless it fully breaks boss slaying or pvp and thorns doesn't.
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Which melee buffs can I stack for giga dmg? Golden vow > flame grant me strength > ?? >?? , wep buffs, talismans, perfumes?
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>>484800861
The poise damage and actual damage are nonexistent so it's actually not that fun. The scattershot ash of war is nice.
>>484801064
Where are her horns
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How the fuck am i supposed to beat the furnace golem in scadu altus? All guides show throwing furnace pots at them, and for some reason they can carry like 5 of them, while i can carry 2 max. Am i just bugged or some shit?
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>>484796167
I would say make a level 30 +3/+1 weapons and do coop but cumsoft ruined it by letting people cheat. :(
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Holy fuck THIS IS WITHOUT ANY POT BOOSTERS
This is literally infinite Cannon of Haima for physical builds. Insanely easy to farm even without CE. Batshit insane.
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>>484801206
um
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>>484801306
pokepokepokepokepoke
great game
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Why should I become Elden Lord? Why shouldn’t I burn everything? What is there to rule over? Everyone is dead or dying by the time I get to the Elden Throne, who are my subjects? Where is my kingdom? Leyndell is buried under ash. I have no throne, no people, no kingdom. I am a Lord as much as a lion without a pride.

May chaos take the world…

MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD!
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>>484801206
retardbwo....
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>>484800525
i don't get it. i just invade nearby in legacy dungeons i like and swing my solitude GS around and have been having a blast. i bet the people complaining are invading near/far and getting those "1-3 guys standing in an open field" invasions and that's why they're complaining. sometimes i even get an invasion buddy!
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>>484801475
>souls peevpee is trash
glad you caught up
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>>484801206
you can just craft more on the spot cant you? i dont know, i rarely use them
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>>484801475
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>>484801475
he ruined 3 people's fun. it was worth it
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>>484792496
Put on shabriri’s woe and a gladiator helmet for extra challenge. Or use non upgraded weapons
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>>484800954
I think you're reading a bit too much into it, esspecialy since the lion is a hornsent thing, not Miquella, but I like the idea
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>>484801475
souls pvp is a bad minigame championed by wannabe fighting game players who need a crutch (lag, builds, cheese) to explain their losses, yes
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>>484801621
they are quite literally right next to a site of grace, invading does nothing in elden ring
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>>484798791
>Radahn courting Miquella
>Promised scene becomes something intense like the marriage scene they did in House of the dragon (but no kissing or a illusion of an adult Miquella)
Hmmmmmm
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>>484801504
is this a quote from the biden speech?
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Reminder that Impenetrable Thorns is bugged.
It's bugged because each of its projectiles can multihit repeatedly, multiplying their damage to absurd extends
This happens because of a frame-pacing bug that's present throughout the DLC, but it's simply more pronounced on this spell because of its high raw damage and status buildup
A single instance of this spell can instantkill a player at any range, and possibly shotgun a boss for upwards of 10k damage in a single cast.
But there's no way to control how and when it bugs out, it just depends on performance and framerate.

Denying this, or the fact that it and other bugged multihit hitboxes will get fixed by just adjusting their frame-queuing is just manbaby cope from faggots enjoying the easymode crutch while it lasts.
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>>484800861
> it actually seems like fun.
Depends on the enemy for non bosses
For boss fights, you're always in melee range.
For mobs there's more than a few mooks who will just dodge forever. There's a few more that have ranged weapon responses that have them jumping directly up your asshole. Like bows but you're within spitting range as opposed to being halfway across the room. Be prepared to toss scattershot throw at everything. Hope you didn't dump MND.

Crucible Knights for example will loop their faster recovery sweeps into themselves. Forever.
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>>484798791
>Radahn is played by a black man
>Miquella is played by a blonde woman crossdressing as a boy
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annoying faggot
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Are transformations ever worth it for pvp or pve? You can't wear any armor to transform, and that by itself makes me think you're losing too much to make them worth it. I also don't see the point in the lamenter mask, 8 arcane can be gained in other ways.
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>>484801306
STR build here: is the fire one okay or do i need to use the lightning one? i want to start invading with max pot damage boosters and FGMS.
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Impenetrable Thorns should be an incantation not a sorcery
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>>484800992
if it rose 10 ft into the air I'd be fine with it knocking you down at the 3-4 ft or below ascent stage (above that you'd want super hyper armor because the game doesn't like Z displacement -> movement, you're 'actually' on the ground, and would visibly get snapped to the ground by any knockback)
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>>484801760
Yes, good
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>>484800861
just prepare for yourself a good standard faith/dex build, slap flame art on your daggers, and you're ready to go
maybe have a set of regular daggers to switch to when you are close enough to a boss or something and want to deal real amounts of DPS though
i have been having great fun pricking away at other players' health during invasions, it honestly feels downright shittery to be at such a distance from them and to still steadily maintain pressure, the range as it was pre-patch encouraged riskier plays of closing in the distance so i was surprised they actually increased it
people complain about the low base damage, but in a few seconds of R1 spam you can easily dig away a non-negligible chunk of health on someone whilstalso inducing a little panic and a little malding in them
overall great fun
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>>484801504
Twue
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>>484802012
They're awful unless you want to be a lightrolling dragon spammer with zero defenses
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>>484801475
Unsurprisingly, giving a moveset designed not to have hyperarmour colossal-tier hyperarmour was a bad idea. Rakshasa will be an enduring meta weapon from now until infinity because fromsoft is going to ditch the dlc before touching it and "crouchpoke, japanese :O" will be our problem from hereon out.
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>>484802014
You will be fine if you stack everything and FGMS i think. FGMS should compensate the natural fire resistance.
But you have an alternative: rock pots. They do pure physical damage and scale with STR.
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If I wanted to be retarded and run Int-Fth-Arc what equipment should I use and what caps should I go for?
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>>484792302
I'm digging the vibe of this with the double Messmer Soldier Axes. What's a good Ash to put on them?
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>>484801867
kek
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RaAargh I'm angry why did the dlc not add throwing spears javelins raaargh
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Anyone has a link to the SOTE boss resistance spreadsheet?
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>>484802012
Dragoncult is as you can reach one shot great knight lighting spear amounts of damage and ancient dragon's lightning bosses into nothingness with it's 20% damage multiplier. As you have FTH that high you're able to achieve respectable easy damage absorption.

Dragon Communion is not because the spells suck shit. More usable in pvp than it is in pve to set up sweetspot Bayle roar kills that will happen once in a blue moon. Do literally anything else.
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>>484801654
So are you saying it’s all merely a coincidence or that it’s just loose association? Because it’s definitely not just a coincidence.
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>>484801834
If there's a bug, I haven't seen it or been hit by it. Spell is fine. Fix any multihits and it will still hit for about 2.5-3k on a perfect shotgun [400-600 x three pillars + 300-400 x three trails] or about 500-1200 on a "solid" mid or long range hit. It's merely very strong.
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>>484802296
i dont have
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first tried her on this playthrough. this is the second playthrough of the dlc and i traded for the shield early to see how the base game handles it. you coast through the base game bosses pretty well. spoilers, its still good but needs more breaks between aggressive pushes and you cant really afford to build into cragblade anymore. mario brothers really gets to shine here since you are essentially tanking for them.
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>>484802340
>werks on my machine :^)
lmao
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>>484801867
dangit, didnt think about dodging enemies.
>>484801197
>damage
I tested on the DEX/ARC character I completed the DLC on (50/50) with occult infusion and it seemed okay. Yes, scattershot is nice up close and also against groups.
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>>484802287
smithscript spear, bro
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>>484802287
Dragon Communion Harpoons
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>>484802012
They're purely for aesthetic choice, never worth it because any and every build can work in significant amounts of defense / passive bonuses from armor even with minimum endurance, and the buff is mediocre

If you do a beast claws rock heart build I salute you, its funny
also there's a glitch that lets you make your character fully nude (no loincloth / bra) on your summon sigil
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>>484802350
not ok
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>>484801681
you honestly have to stop taking it so seriously, anon. it's really just about damagemaxxing at the end of the day. it's fun. at least 9 out of 10 invaders are nothing like jeenine, it's not about "crutches" or anything like that, it's just fun to blow up gankers with OP shit.

i play GBFVSR too (great game and can be played completely and entirely for free, btw), and i invade in the DLC now. they're two completely different experiences, no one besides the extreme minority that is jeenine and his ilk would ever consider this anywhere near a "real" fighting game. and i say this as someone that watched a lot of the people who tried to make PvP "legit" back in DS3 and how spectacularly that failed (pic related).
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>>484802375
I have yet to be shotgunned at long range or get big damage on somebody who wasn't in a hallways or stationary at close range.
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>>484802296
dlc;
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwmeTKY_0x3P6mKjFsSqB20fD-oVgrFLVAbhfPVhGkY/edit?gid=0#gid=0
base game;
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aujq95UfL_oUs3voPt3nGqM1hLhaVJOj6JKB6Np3FD8/edit?gid=1466577964#gid=1466577964
motion values:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j4bpTbsnp5Xsgw9TP2xv6d8R4qk0ErpE9r_5LGIDraU/edit?gid=681223203#gid=681223203
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>>484802115
>FTH
I was actually thinking Magic. According to the EIP calculator, Magic scales better than flameart and increasing DEX seems to do little to increase damage.
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>>484801504
You should date the dolly & just leave, why burn the world to nothing?
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>>484802503
I pity that extremely small clique trying to make an esport out of souls pvp. It's the unique blend of pvp and pve that makes it so cool.
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>>484802612
Thanks bro
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Is it worth grabbing enough int on an arc/fth build to use the Albinauric Staff for Impenetrable Thorns?
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>>484801306
My man your armor boosts all damage.
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>>484802382
>>484802432
Siiigh
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>>484789901
Try finger but hole
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>>484801681
>wannabe fighting game players
I legit see people complaining about their opponents not using honest builds or honest weapons as an excuse for why their losses didn't count. Meanwhile fighting game players figured that out ages ago:
https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Honest
"Honest" is synonymous with "weak". This whole community is stuck with made up rules that I imagine come from Dark Souls and they complain if people don't abide by those rules as if everyone should know them even if they aren't in-game. In actual fighting games as soon as the announcer says "fight" you fight, here people in the arena want to do gestures and buffing and get mad if you attack immediately as you should, they also get mad if you use perfectly valid, legal mechanics like healing because it goes against their made up rules, then they complain people die too fast. It's weird as hell to me.
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>>484802946
>wants a throwing spear
>doesn't want to use the literal throwing spear
Then suffer
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>>484802819
why not the staff of the guilty, you know for boosting thorns?
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The DLC may not be perfect, but I really like how much of an effect you can have on Team Leda through your choices in their quest lines. Seeing Leda show up with a severely depleted crew at the end makes you feel like a cunning son of a bitch.
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>>484803047
For the bleed buildup.
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I love smithscript dungeons. They remind me of Brume. I wish they straight ported DS2 DLCs into Elden Ring. I want to replay them without the clunky ass DS2 controls.
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>>484801834
Brain damaged retards complaining about things in a coop game. I wish people were competent and smart enough to do something else to get validation. Video games are nothing they mean nothing you learn nothing and earn nothing.
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Listening to the DS soundtrack and I gotta say, Fromsoft actually fell off in the music department. the old soundtracks were actually better. Slower rising of cadences, more chorals, better use of voice, not as overbearing in most cases
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>Use big weapon + Shield paladin set
>You didn't beat Radahn

>Use DMGS and spells
>Cold
>You didn't beat Radahn

>Use Shield and small weapon
>Shield
>You didn't beat Radahn

>Use dual colossals
>Stance break
>You didn't beat Radahn

>Use bleed weapons
>Bleed
>You didn't beat radahn

bros i'm struggling to beat Radahn here
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>>484792302
Keeping this character at RL60+12 for online shenanigans and reaching Morgott has made me realise that I've never really properly learned this fight and was just relying on the fact that it's incredibly easy to out-level him if you explore even just a little bit.
>>484802228
H-hey bro... wanna go raid a village with me later?
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>>484801206
psst
jump attack its legs when it stomps with one foot
use i-frames from getting on/off torrent when it jumps with both feet
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>>484802912
Rakshasa's is just 8%. Pot boosters together will be like 37%. And i'm not even at 55 DEX yet.
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>>484803142
hard for me to say, i do still get shivers from the older stuff but maybe its just because i was younger and more impressionable
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>>484803047
Why in god's name would an arc build use a casting tool that doesn't scale with arc?
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>>484802745
Why pity them if they enjoy it and have tournaments for money
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>>484803160
I’m not I did all of those things and now I nuke trash mobs with miquellas light and everyone claps. 10/10 dlc.
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>>484803142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSwLdhbEc1U
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>>484803142
There are a few tracks I really like in DS3 (Gravetender Champion, Twin Princes) and BB (Ludwig) but Elden Ring's OST don't do it for me.
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>>484803142
Dancing Lion and Radahn phase 2 are really good.
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>>484803305
I'm dumb and though he wanted an offhand for the passive
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>>484802982
>that I imagine come from Dark Souls
DeS
But that was because the game was so broken you needed reasonable rules to make duels enjoyable, least of all not healing.
DaS was the rise oof the twinks and doing literally everything to get a kill.
Which is why dark bead absolutely raped that game for months.
DaS2 had enough built in rules (phantoms and invader can't heal with flasks, invaders have a time limit, branch to turn pve against invaders, blue police that can invade, etc) that the only rule was winning.

The anti buff baby stuff started with DaS3.
Pvping in bloodborne (before the DLC ruined everything) was basically only ever duels due to being able to fucking MURDER the bell lady in co-op.
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>>484803034
Siiiiiiiiiiigh
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>>484802012
if you're doing a blue dancer charm build it's a little bit of free defences for zero weight
lightning incants are decent and buffing the spears and ADLS can be nice but not really worth the tradeoffs for just that unless you're going all in trying to 1shot people, dragon priestess form not terrible but not good
dragon communion form is mostly just bad. You can do crazy damage but dragon communion spells do crazy damage if they hit anyway, the problem is they're all extremely slow and cost a shitload of fp so you rely on hyperarmor and having shit defences sucks ass.
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They made St. Trina woke.
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>>484802745
yeah. the whole draw of it to me is the "asymmetrical warfare", where it's balanced in an unbalanced way: host has twice the flasks, rune arc, and has basically unlimited phantoms to summon (both yellows and blues, and yellows can and often are overleveled password summons), but is often a noob. Invader relies on being extremely good at the game and knowing the level layout, making use of mobs that are strong but don't respawn and are in limited supply and aren't controlled by him, making ambushes important in many cases. If not for the password summons I consider this "fair".

tl;dr i like to fight alongside the mobs. those hornsent warriors are my bros, they hit like a fucking truck and they're like brothers to me now.
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>>484801834
>it just depends on performance and framerate.
It's 2024 and retards still tie game logic to framerate. It's not like it's hard to find competent programmers. Hell, you're already outsourcing to India anyway, just find another company. This is beyond embarrassing.
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>>484802701
it's more fun
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Most disappointing new spell in the DLC? For me it's Rain of Fire.
>get used on you by a slightly tougher fire knight enemy guarding a bridge
>kill enemy, get spell
>think "oh shit, is it going to be tracking your target and doing decent damage like the enemy did?"
The answer is no. Of course it's not. It'll do a maximum of 35 damage per hit, have an extremely small and sporadic area of effect, and be fixed in place.
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>>484791273
>Hornsent brutalize shamans, put them in the jars and call them "saints"
>Marika goes out of her way to do humiliate and degrade their traditions, puts them in the jars and calls them "heroes"
>Breeds their "holy animal" just for gladiator amusement and uses them as watchdogs
Honsent deserved it. What a bunch of cunts.
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What's a warrior motif that would fit using both dryleaf and milady?
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>>484803625
>Most disappointing new spell in the DLC?
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>>484803047
You use the boosting tools in your offhand and cast with the tool that actually scales well with your main stat to cast with.
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>>484802745
>It's the unique blend of pvp and pve that makes it so cool.
>covenants gutted, no blue invasions or gravelords or rat summons or area defense or purple phantoms
>solo host invasions gutted, blue phantoms have no purpose anymore
>no old monk boss summons, no looking glass PvE assist boss summons
>only one invader per session, ganks encouraged
>dungeon difficulty gutted, invaders have nothing to work with
Since From largely contained PvP into the arena, it's no wonder people are starting to treat it like an esport. It's not allowed to be anything else.
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>>484803625
Minor Erdtree is terrible for its faith cost.
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>>484802701
A doll can’t give me the sex.
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>>484803736
Wheres my fucking crucible tongue and legs fuck you miyazaki
and the thorns also SUCK
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>>484803142
To be honest some fights are so overwhelming that I barely notice the OST.
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>the temptation to say fuck it and get close to the Shadow Keep to collect all the Skibidi fragments possible is rising
>the path to the ruins below the land-bridge to the shadowkeep from Ensis is no doubt a trigger zone for the rune
>the temptation is still rising
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>>484803692
The starting warrior armor fits the flowing dex build pretty well
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>>484803736
blood rain
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What skibdi should you have for the final fight? I'm getting one shot and dealing practically no damage.
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Are people finaly waking up?
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>2qn5 tovtake my time with the dlc
>want to fight radahn before the nerf
Aaaaaa
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>>484803915
all of them
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>>484803838
>talk to Leda's crew
>break rune
>talk to Leda's crew
>collect skibidis
What's the problem?
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>>484803793
>waaah waaah waaah
And yet i'm winning at least 8 out of 10 invasions and having a ton of fun because the core of the invasion mechanic is still intact
What's next
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>>484803575
It's because they build their games off of console devkits (because it's cheap and easy) and those use framerate because they assume it will always be stable in a console environment.

Most japanese gamedev studios have between 0 to 1 codemonkeys on their teams, because it's just not economical to code/test/debug inhouse. They purchase the licenses for tools that already have the work done for them and then outsource to sweatshops through their publisher to do testing/debugging/etc.
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>>484803915
Above 15. There's not that big of a difference (8%ish) between 15 and 20.
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>>484803927
>copypasting pastas to youtube
what a fucking retard
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>>484803692
Vyke's armor with mostly any leathery leggings eith boots and the gauntlets called "gauntlets"
Makes you kinda look like a hedge knight
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>>484803838
the trigger for the great rune shattering is pretty generous, you can take all the paths around and under as long as you don't go too close from the front, or pass the forest from the church side. It doesn't block anything that's not through the keep.
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Man I hate fighting some DLC bosses in co-op. What is the good weapon to deal with quick moving cunts like Putrescent knight, Gaius and this stupid flower with Ebreitas charge? I did not even notice in solo how fucking obnoxious can they be.
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>>484803405
still the GOAT of all Souls bosses. Godfrey only comes VERY close but DAMN is it close.
I actually prefer the golden shade music for Godfrey
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>>484804012
Some people derive pleasure from punching themselves in the balls.
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>>484801767
biden would behave like an average /dsg/troon and do some unintelligible babble before shitting itself
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>>484803927
It's a shame Elden Ring was too big they had to copy paste Souls combat into it
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>>484803990
Problem is, I can't tell how the questlines resume should you ignore them all or avoid talking to them pre-runebreaking
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>>484803509
Blue dancer and rock heart to buff something like the physical damaging dragon spells sounds fun.
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>>484804012
>read this response
>read who you're replying to
>nothing mentioned about winrates at all and instead bemoaning all the cut features from previous games
Excellent.
Terrific.
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>>484804107
Gael is ultimate zanzibart. Not the beginning of the end but surely something that solidified From's boss design vision.
>>484803927
That's some retard copy pastes from 4chan.
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>>484804107
crazy how kino Gael was
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>game updated in rest mode
NOOOOOO MY SPRAY BOTTLES
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>>484803315
>Why pity them?

the money doesn't really matter and isn't a lot anyways from what i remember. what they want is the recognition of being good at something truly skillful, but what they get is running around in circles and playing passive-reactively with a fast weapon. it's pathetic because it's not skillful and no one gives a shit, but they keep trying in vain anyways, wasting their time on a futile goal.

souls PvP will never be taken seriously because of how rewarding passive-reactive play is and how it's basically unpunishable outside of getting really really bored. it's also really really boring to watch which doesn't help the "no one cares" thing. again play something like GBFVSR and or SF and see how much difference it makes when you have a "wall" to work with. i guarantee any "tryhards" in the PvP scene will cream their pants once they learn how to play, it's infinitely better, it's insane. it's also a lot harder and people actually give a shit if you're good in those games. the spacing and timing dynamic is still there so i highly recommend souls PvPers to check it out, or some other streetfighter-esque fighting game. but GBFVSR is free and really well polished and probably the closest thing to souls PvP that is still a "legit" or "fully featured" fighting game. Absolver would be even closer but that's dead, although i continue to pray to the outer gods for a sequel.
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>>484804012
ruined by bowing instead of teabagging or throwing shit pots
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>>484797682
Hot
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>>484804182
>avoid talking to them pre-runebreaking
Why would you do that?
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>>484804312
True, I feel nothing when fighting Gael. It's empty spectacle like DS3 as a whole.
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>go to parry some other guys radahn to death
>my parries dont do anything
>just make me not take any damage but boss just carries on
oh
okay
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Does powerstanced L1s change the hitbox of the shorter of the two weapons? Like if I have a rotten greataxe and the rotten avatar staff, does the greataxe hit where it normally wouldn’t because the staff’s reach is greater and I’m swinging both at once?
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>>484804430
How is it an empty spectacle? What does that even mean?
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>>484803927
Every single boss having a "Flies into the air, hangs there for a second to defy physics and throw you off, then lands with a big explosion" got really old this DLC.
I think every single boss in the game had this exact move.
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I don't understand the rational for putting these in the game. Truly awful.
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>>484804471
No and yes
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>>484803273
isn't rakshasas 2% per item multiplicative, so its actually +8.24%
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>>484804417
To get early skibidi faster, also their questlines are tied to bosses so I might not get their shit.
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>>484803954
Anon are you okay?
Anon?
ANONNNNNNN!
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>>484803625
100% rain of fire. Not even the enemy using it makes it work, as I went past him a few times without even realizing it was not a generic fire knight. Only when looking at the wiki I learned he existed, and only by slowly walking through the bridge I got hit by it, and still didn't take much damage. But you have a horse there, you usually just run through ignoring enemies. Weird that he gives you a helmet that increases intelligence too, doesn't even boost his own spell.
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>>484804528
It's not a Miyazaki game unless you slash at the ankles of giant beings.
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>>484804528
Erdtree avatars were too easy.
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>>484804450
You have to parry WAY in advance. But not by too much, then you will actually take damage.
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>>484804528
to filter retard shitters like you, works really great it seems
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>>484804528
It would be fine if they did it like 2-3 times. The ones with leg armor is such bad joke. Forcing me to collect resources and craft some shit just to take them down is obnoxious.
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>>484804012
>>484804282
NTA but the point is to damagemaxx and fight really OP shit with your own really OP shit. it's over the top. that's literally the point. it's not a serious fighting game it's people chaotically shooting laser beams at each other and you can run and hide and do ambushes and shoot the jar canon and all sorts of shit if you want.

literally just stop doing near/far and never invade the open world. just don't. my gameplay experience has improved tremendously since i started doing it this way, just invade nearby in legacy dungeons. even at RL130 i'm getting action, at least for now.
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Gael
Midir
Friede

Dark souls 3 won bigly
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It would be crazy if there was a bunch of Miquella fan art haha
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>>484803736
hey at least it deals damage

what does electroshock do
what does mantle of thorns do

lmao you can cast a spell to give yourself about the same bramble rolling damage as the bramble set aka nothing at fucking all, oh and it only lasts 30 seconds
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>>484803142
y'know this i will actually agree with always, the emotional intensity of the music peaked with the bloodborne tracks actually capturing a sense of unnerving horror or outright panic, ever since it feels like hollow orchestral intensity, like a parody of itself
right off the top of my head i can remember the motifs to two or three bloodborne pieces, the cleric beast theme is quite literally iconic and unforgettable, i cannot for the life of me remember a single melody from any game post-BB
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>>484804672
In dogshit bosses department? Surely
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>>484804107
Godfrey isn’t remotely close to Gael. Gael was a total fluke with how good he ended up being, From will never replicate it again.
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Elden Ring is the best souls game.
>B-but muh Bloodborne!!
Overrated
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>>484804740
Elden ring theme is unironically way more iconic and memorable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqY3yLp2-vo
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Miquella.... the kind? Miquella THE FOOL!
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>>484804740
Their music peaked at DS1.
And if you want good boss fight themes just play Monster Hunter, no series comes close to creating as many memorable themes.
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>>484804570
You just talk to them while collecting scadu fragments, they're located near crosses anyways.
>talk to them while collecting skadu
>break rune
>talk to them all again
>continue collecting scadu
>further their quests in Shadow Keep at you leisure
Just don't kill Messmer and their quests won't break. The only exception is Hornsent. If you visit the church of the bud before talking to him after messmer he won't be there and will attack you with Leda.
t. collected every scadu possible before messmer and still completed all the quests.
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>>484804672
i miss Midir. one of the few shit test bosses that actually got SIGNIFICANTLY HARDER when you tried to summon your butt buddies to beat it for you.
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>No covenants
>No Sen's Fortress
>No mimics
Why does FromSoft hate DS1 chads?
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>>484804690
g2/cm/
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>>484804740
I dunno i feel like the twin princes theme really carried a sense of futility which matches with the lore of the fight
Haven't played DS3 in 6 years but I remember it fondly.
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>>484804857
Elden Ring with Bloodborne combat would have been their masterpiece and you know it
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>>484804661
You can invade near/far, just finger out of open world areas immediately unless there are strong bosses nearby.
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>>484803736
That is way more damage than rain of fire.
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I could probably mod in a smaller version of Miquella if anyone would be interested.
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my favorite boss in all of souls is unironically taurus demon
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>>484801760
Now i kinda want this redrawn with Radahn and Miquella.
...Sometimes i wish i was a drawfag.
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>>484804719
yeah I dunno wtf's wring with From.
>find all the broods
>moore gives you one last recipe
>sote raisins make torrent's dash deal 2 damage to enemies and staggers the basic humanoids but nothing thougher
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>>484804928
>chads
*chuds
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>>484804740
Night's cavalry phase 1 is good
Rykard phase 1 is good
Rennala's both phases are good
But you're right, the composers didn't restrict themselves enough, everything ends up sounding the same because they want to blast the full orchestra and choir at all times.
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>>484804312
>>484804072
isn't the focus here the 600 likes, not that someone is copypasting shit
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>>484803142
>>484804740
>>484804902
DS1 music is shit
DS3 BB and ER are the only games with good music
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>two tree sentinels
>two ulcerated tree spirits
>two red (rune) bears
>a demi human queen
>a falling star beast
They absolutely would've put in an Erdtree Avatar if it weren't a blatant plothole. Hell, they could've gotten away with it regardless with some note about
>Miquella snuck them or some shit
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>>484804949
i guess but then you're gonna be doing that a lot. to each their own but, as long as there's activity, i much prefer just invading a specific location repeatedly.
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>>484805028
Back to the Royal Rat Authority with you, heathen
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Micheal Tzatziki
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>implying Radahn even understands what a "consort" is
>implying he didn't NOPE the fuck out after someone explained him
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https://youtu.be/CLdvxrdLeio?si=wCQyVqG3xv09PsFz

>Mogs entire ER soundtrack despite being a fodder boss theme

Hackszaki should really hire better composers for his next slop.
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@484805065
(You)
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have some slop
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>>484804719
It's too late for my idealized version now but...

Minimum changes to make it viable now
>Boost resistance to some sort of damage or status
>Last 60 seconds at minimum

Ideal but won't happen:
>Retribution mechanic where if you attack the thorns enough times, a pillar of thorns spawns underneath you and retaliates.
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>>484804918
Are they all really in the shadow keep? The only one I found was Freyja, where the hell are they?
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>>484804624
making something incredibly tedious doesn't mean it's a good filter, go project your anger elsewhere kiddo
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>>484804868
Elden Ring theme sounds like they heard the second part of the halo theme with the guitars and went "but make it medieval sounding". It sounds like marvelslop music. It sounds like the music to some dogshit movie trailer for manchildren. It barely even has a melody, it's three notes. It's a pop song instrumental with orchestral arrangement.
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>>484804868
Because it's Demons Souls theme.
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>dual axes
>same moveset as regular 1handed axe
couldnt they atleast fucking port the DS3 moveset
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i don't know how to explain it but a lot of the content in the DLC feels like a parody of itself
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>>484805164
>>484805065
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>>484804918
Perfecct, thank you
Have this as thanks
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>>484800687
This is not the problem, the problem is as a result of getting as mainstream as it is, the DS3niggers have it in their heads rent free forever
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>>484803625
>>484803736
Dude I can't even fucking imagine what they were talking about when developing this shit. "Make this spell with an absurdly long cast time and FP cost horrible fucking garbage". It's like they reverted back to their Dark Souls 3 design philosophy of designing spells, but only for some of them.
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>>484804012
I decided to try hosting a few times in the DLC with my second character to see what it was like from that side and l gotta say, Phantoms both orange and red are retarded.
>get invaded in Bonny Gaol by Waves of Gold spammed
>orange keeps running into it and dying
>stand behind a stalagtite
>red moves around and starts Waves again
>move to the other side
>repeat x3 until I charge up a Palm Blast while he moves up to me again

>get invaded in the Wing Twinblade Knight castle
>orange is a scaduthorn spammer
>chases red into abductor virgins and dies
>Lightning bolt the virgins to death while the red fucks the orange
>punch red to death because he thinks they're still there?

I also recommend Dryleaf Arts to anyone.
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>>484805167
I'm Malenia, Blade of Micolash and I'm about to hit the feet.
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>>484805127
This is true, but you won't catch coopers in less populated side dungeons this way. Filtering out gankers is also a good practice. Never give them what they want. I filtered a good amount of gankers prior to SOTE release and had a good time for weeks.
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>>484805237
>project your anger
but you're the only bitch here crying about piss easy furnace golems
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>>484804312
While the concept behind Gael is lame as fuck the execution of his fight mechanics is extremely honest, straightforward and both fun and fair to fight. He's pretty much the pinnacle of Fromsoft's "large magical humanoid" boss combat design.
>empty spectacle
Yes but his spectacle understands brevity. He does 2-3 hit combos. Sometimes he does a special move that looks pretty and is over in a second. Sometime she changes it up and does a special move in place of the 2nd/3rd hit of a combo. Sometimes his specials are big openings, sometimes they create distance and reset the fight, giving you a chance to heal/recover stamina. The pace and interplay is quick and fluid.

Compare that to Radahn, whose special attacks take a decade, whose combos vary from 3 to 7 hits with extra vfx vomit obscuring them, who randomly resets the fight except input reads and gap-closes if you don't just sit patiently and wait for him to slow-walk back up to you. I learned to drop glowstones on the ground so that he'd input read it and dash at me because I got so tired of waiting after he lightspeed dashes away.

So much time spent fighting radahn is just waiting, waiting, waiting. But waiting in a mean way, where if you don't want juuuust the right way he's going to read your inputs and punish you for it, with a quick swipe, with a delayed AoE ground explosion, with a bitchslap two hit trucombo that causes him to wheel 270 degrees instantly with no turning animation. Empty spectacle epitomizes that fight.
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>>484804719
Mantle of thorns apparently buffs the rolling damage of the briar set by 580%. Which is still not much, but at least it's something.
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>>484797682
What goes on here?
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>>484805250
>>484805251
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>>484805250
>thing I dont like is marvel
I'm tired
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>>484805030
>>484804931
>>484804868
I wouldn't know, I turn the music off because you wouldn't be hearing music off some invisible earbuds if you were really there in the lands between.
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>>484804649
There's only two of the ones with leg armour, but they're even more cancer than the usual ones. The one in that field of red flowers I always forget the name of is exceptionally obnoxious, you'll use a spiritspring to get up to the ledge where you can toss a pot into its basket, and it... spams that fucking homing fireballs move non-stop with not a single pause between them so you have zero chance of going up to the ledge to throw the pot.
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>>484805390
That's people testing it in a scadu environment iirc
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>no one remembers DeS, DS2, or BB's final boss theme
>DS3 had to callback DS1's
>ER's is literally just the title theme
Don't diss DS1
https://youtu.be/bm2Ev4n4HfM
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>>484804107
Gael was absolute kino.
That lightning in phase 3 always made me smile
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Nothing in Dark Souls compares with this kino
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>>484805365
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Reeee why are there no summoning signs by Mohg I need someone to hold my little baby hands through it
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>>484805380
I didn't say Gael is bad mechanically, and I didn't say anything about gay Radahn.
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>>484805340
Palm Blast is unironically too high IQ for the vast majority of players apparently
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>>484805212
Post Shadow Keep break -
Moore: Always where he is until post Messmer
Ansbach: Moves to First Floor Specimen Hall
Freya: Moves to Seventh floor Specimen Hall
Thollier: Moves to Putrescent Knight boss arena
Leda: Wants to assassinate someone, find her summon sign outside of the regular Specimen Hall entrance
Hornsent: After Leda tries to assassinate him there's a summon sign in Messmer's room and then he invades you near Romila.
Dane: lmao
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>>484805423
poop
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>>484805423
Miquella butthole held open by a special rubber o-ring?
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>>484805001
>that first throw
I can't believe From still hasn't figured out how to make locked projectiles account for distance
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>>484805212
>Ansbach
First floor of the storehouse in the very back.
>Leda/Hornsent
On the battlements leading to the specimen storehouse before the fire knight guarding the lift. Look for the two summon signs.
Hornsent can then be summoned for Messmer if you either ignore the signs or help him.
>Thiollier
Goes to st. Trina.
>Moore
Disappears depending on what you tell him. If you tell him to move on he fights against you. If you tell him to be sad he'll kill himself.
>Dane
Summoning sign at church of the bud.
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>>484805264
Same here, but kinda hard to put in words.
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will /erg/ fightclubs accept me even if i'm level 200?
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>>484804740
>i can remember the motifs to two or three bloodborne pieces
The Hunter's Dream music and Gehrman's theme still live rent-free in my head, even now.
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>>484794664
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>soijak
of couse a coping retard can shit out only more cope
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there is a reason whenever any mindless drone normie shit thinks "fromsoftware music" they think "plin plin plon"
don't kid you're'selve's, children
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>>484804592
Sorry my spelling is bad, did tou understand what I meant though?
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>>484805294
that's a big pot
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>>484805143
DS3 is where the music went to shit. Gundyr is the only good theme in that game.
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>>484805380
>Gael has a combo in his first phase
>Lets out an audible yell beforehand, goes for it
>Deals a lot of damage if it hits you
>If you dodge it all, he's vulnerable for a short period of time for you to punish and maybe even stagger him

what happened to boss design man
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>>484805380
I never meant to say that Gael was "dishonest" fight. I just dislike fights like him or artorias. He flails around like a beast, hovers in the air, does some retarded anime shit all the time. It had great reception and Fromsoft took the worst elements out of the fight to implement into their next "souls" game. It just feels like they completel misunderstand WHY people like their bosses in the first place.
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love dis lil nigga
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>>484797682
Is Miquella basically a metaphor for the current state of the Transgender "community"? All about love and everyone talks about how kind and nice he/she is, but in reality it put a spell on everyone to force them to say nice things about it, and is secretly a Harvey Weinstein-tier sexual predator? also making him look like a kid to dunk on the pedos is a nice touch. really covered everything with the sexual deviants in the West if you think about it, including grooming children.
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https://youtu.be/71XgFf288KE?si=NTg-CLeD-sXqz_W1

O-oh no, Eldensissies… kino is back on the menu, and it doesn’t include us…
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Just don't take damage.

Damage cannot enter your hitbox without your consent.
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>>484805142
Why wouldn't he know what a consort is if he's smart enough to learn gravity magic
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so, are level 1 runs invalid if you upgrade the shadowtree blessing? trying to figure out what the meta is on this
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Does From even have what it takes to make a final boss intentionally underwhelming anymore?
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This happens more than I'd like but at the same time.... I fuckin' got paid, they got sent home. I definitely won.
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>>484805495
>THE rollslopping
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>>484805598
>Moore: Always where he is until post Messmer
I have no idea where that is, because he's not in his initial spot outside Belurat.
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>>484805793
>tranny obsession
Curious
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>>484805883
hi all runs are arbitrary and you'll have people complaining no matter what you do so just have fun
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>>484805671
Man I got too stoned once and played Bloodborne for the first time in years and when I returned to the hunter's dream and heard specifically the second version of the theme with the singer, I fucking cried. Just thinking of how much more love and beauty was put into that place compared to the roundtable hold. They loved making Bloodborne and it does not feel like the same love went into Elden Ring, not quite the same.
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from's next game NEEDS a metal composition.
have you guys ever played a souls game with a metal playlist? shit's like butter on toast
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baby jump webm
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>>484805883
level 1 is level 1, if skibidi blessings aren't allowed then neither are weapon upgrades
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what went wrong?
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>/dsg/troon raid
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>>484805380
There's been a massive uptake in this reddit tranny posting style since the DLC came out
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>>484805810
perfect OST for the fight
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>>484805494
Yeah, I panicked and missed some of pot shots, got killed and ran out of resources. WELL, I guess I'll never know what this motherfucker drops. Homing fireballs got the stupidest range and tracking.
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>start new character
>beat margit
>for some reason melina asks me to take her with her again even though I've already said yes
>say no this time
>says to ask her again if I change my mind
>still lets me use her to level up, acts like that exchange didn't happen
what did she mean by this
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>>484806051
>People criticize the radahn fight
>INSTANT seething, just add water
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>>484805651
pls rspond
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>>484806051
>IS THAT.... IS THAT SPACING FOR FORMATTING ON LINGER POSTS?? NOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO POST AN UNFORMATTED TEXTBLOCK, AAAAIIIIIIEEEEEE NIGGERMAN SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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pwnd
but why did his radahns gs L2 push them back instead of towards him?
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>>484805497
>>no one remembers DeS, DS2, or BB's final boss theme
I do.
>callback to DS1's
Lol, yeah they did a lot of "callbacks" in this game.
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>>484806008
Sony did the heavy lifting for BB ost with live orchestral recordings
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>>484806057
Regular hefty fire pots work too actually, you just have to throw a whole lot more of them.
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>>484806158
>>484806202
Doubling down on it doesn't make you look smarter
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So let me get this straight
INT gets
>Gravitational Missile which is admittedly top tier and super versatile
FAI gets
>Fire Serpent, the best, most spammable bread and butter fire incantation in the game, incredibly low commitment, can be used anywhere to put a ton of pressure both in pve and pvp, basically overtakes Catch Flame as the basic bitch FAI incant
>Knight's Lighting Spear, almost a FAI version of Comet, spear combos into Gate of Babylon projectiles in pvp, damage can be boosted to stratosphere
>Light of Miquella, an enormous satellite laser that clears entire areas of any weak shit, can be utilized to great success in pvp
>Messmer's Orb, a unique aggressive aoe incantation, uncharged version combos the slam into a blast in pvp for a grand total of 1.1k damage without any additional boosters
>Heal From Afar, the best healing spell in the game with insane casting speed rivaling a flask usage, will likely get nerfed like DS3 version was
>the best Miquella ring projectile incantation that doesn't even have INT requirements
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>>484806176
mmm, I want to suck on Marikas tits while she fucks me with her meaty cock. Mommy milky while she thrusts her girth inside me. Feel her juices flow into my stomach from both sides
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>>484806261
About 4-5 seems to trigger an instakill.
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>>484806014
I only play while listening to atmospheric techno by women DJs or doom drone music by women DJs depending on my mood that day.
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>>484805495
>>484805390
yeah mantle of thorns just adds a flat 87 damage to rolling, with 50 damage and 25 bleed buildup (dealt to self on cast, not to enemies)
briar set adds 18 for helm/gloves/boots and 25 for armor, so 79 total
so together you just have 166 physical damage on roll
its multiplied by skibidis and reduced by armor so people tested it stupidly
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>>484806035
did something go wrong? i thought it was a pretty solid and fun game. not quite as good as Pinocchio-Souls, but still solid for a play through or 2
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Bayle got the best song and its not even close
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>>484805883
I'd consider them 2 different runs but honestly if you can do RL1 with skibidi you can do RL1 without skibidi because you'll still die in 1 hit unless you go max defense to tank a light attack, and you damage will be good enough anyway if you make the usual good RL1 builds.
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Which bosses in the DLC DOESN'T this apply to
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>>484804740
Bloodborne tracks were legitimately just good in general and the majority of them had very strong melodies.
But that's also not fully fair comparison
Yuka Kitamura, Tsukasa Saitoh, and Tai Tomisawa talented though they are (I really like Saitoh) only did 8 tracks combined of Bloodbornes 25 track OST. Ryan Amon worked on a lot of the tracks (even if the best themes I think belonged to Saitoh) and in great collaborations like this when the musicians are allowed a lot of fucking money and get to demo via multiple beta's there's a lot of time for them to discover the true sound. Once of the things you read about in big music collabs like this are how the musicians impact each other. So I've no doubt the man who created this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBMhwWN_088 didn't also help influence the overall sound direction.

Elden Ring clocks in at 17 tracks despite being double the length. It's just me making assumptions, but I don't think they were allowed all the money for players and practice that Sony dumped into them for BB.

>>484804952
I thought I'd record an example of it at it's best so toppled the dragon as well. Against anything not dragon size it usually hits 1-4 ticks for about 100 to 400 damage. If an enemy is moving, even walking directly towards you, all hits will miss.
The spell has a 7.1 casting time. I thought I'd use it against Radahn to finish him off as a gag but he recovers from stagger before the spell goes out.
I ate shit enough times that I was getting legitimately mad at a videogame, aborting the entire attempt.
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DS3 bros have been vindicated with the shit design of bosses in Elden ring

Now you see that DS3 had the best bosses all along
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>>484806314
INT gets that teleport spell too
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I'm never going to get to the dlc at this rate bruh
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>>484806205
If you turn around during the yell it gets confused and reverses the polarity or something.
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>>484806057
why do so many people not realize the fire golems are made to be fought on horseback?
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>>484806024
I like how the other one just politely waited until you were done with your recovery animation before resuming casting.
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>>484806314
Don't worry, you'll get knocked out of half those casts anyway.
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>>484806247
would explain a lot, i do know the Sony provided budget in general elevated that game's development significantly
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>>484806368
Its just thirdworlders and their ilk crying about Radahn. The DLC is fantastic, pay them no heed.
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>>484805651
The point of a meta level is that it shouldn't matter anymore if you level past that because your build has reached maximum effective combat power with any given appropriate weapon.

There was never any question about meta level until DaS3 added weird duo-scaling superweapons that scale well beyond everything else. But unless you're a quality or int/fth build you shouldn't really get notably stronger between 150 and 200 so it shouldn't matter. And if you unironically went to 200 just so your mage can deal more damage on offscreen glintstone pebbles in fight clubs or so your super honest normal knight dude longsword RE1s can out-trade a greatsword, you're a faggot and should defenestrate yourself.
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Trannies still think you can get truecomboed by Radahn because they suck ass at the game lmao
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>>484806471
>just gut your dps and mobility to kill a piss easy shit boss
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>>484806193
Idunno
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>>484805959
if he's not sitting there you already fucked up. Did you kill any of his brood?
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>>484806412
What is this trying to convey?
You can just sprint away from Midra's phase change and he'll miss.
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>>484806314
We already knew faithGODS own this game
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>>484806314
>He isn't running instants and sorceries in his spellslinger deck
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>>484806512
>>484806247
with how much reused shit there is in Bloodborne DLC I dont think they had much of a budget
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>>484790270
get back in the closet you disgusting freak
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>>484806471
? I fought them on the horse, balls still track you like a motherfucker and this retard has no chill between his avalanches.
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>>484806035
>all movesets within the class are the same
>boss skeletons and attacks are reused even among the main bosses
>despite what retards believe, the game is exceedingly linear, basically DS3 style, a few shortcuts just loop back to the hub and are completely useless
>godawful setting and endings so bad it feels like someone shat into your mouth when you finish it
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>>484806471
Anon, we're talking about the two armoured ones that take 0 damage to their legs no matter what you swing at them.
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>Play INT
>Go to DLC
>Find out there's a transformation mechanic
>It's faith
>Try to find the cool int weapons in the DLC
>There aren't any
>Kill a specific Carian Knight rememberance boss for her weapon
>Check the weapon
>Faith
>Get told that there's a super overpowered sorcery in the game
>It's located far away in the shadowkeep in a random ledge
>Trudge through to getit
>Finally acquire this broken sorcery
>It's Faith
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>>484806565
>horse has less mobility
I don't think I've ever read anything as retarded as what you just said
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I STILL LIKE KALAMEET AS THE BEST DRAGON BOSS IN THE SERIES AND I STILL DO NOT CONSIDER MY GAME "BEATEN" UNLESS I HAVE KILLED KALAMEET IN NG+ WEARING THE CALAMITY RING ON THAT CHARACTER thank you
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>>484806412
Everyone I beat without that happening, but you died to and blame that for happening.
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>>484806640
Not really the right general to pull that card.
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>>484806429
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>>484805959
If you tell him to move on or be sad forever he disappears.
>move on
He'll fight you with Leda.
>be sad
He kills himself.
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>>484806692
>turning speed and precision of your whale mom
>mobility
lol
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>>484806640
Name one Fromsouls DLC without reused/cut content
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>>484806797
I told him to move on and I had to fight him. I did not attack the ze bugs.
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>>484806426
I would rather fight Radahn than Friede THOUGH
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>thought radahn wasn't that tough after I killed him with a cold backhand blade build
>he's now pushing my shit in on my FKGS build
>can't fit in cheap R1s in between the longer boss combos like I could before
I'm sorry for slandering you man, you got hands
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>>484806429
It's basically a spell version of Blinkbolt. A super versatile thing, but not exactly unique to INT alone because of it.
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>>484806412
All of them? Literally every big screen nuke in the DLC is position based and doesn't in fact cover the entire screen
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>>484789604
Why did the Tarnished not release him from his caged divinity anons? Why would he rather die than release the cage? Is his dong so powerful it would destroy the elden ring?
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>>484805972
>obsession
man, you things really get mad when you're called out by miyazaki.
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>>484806687
but at least we got triple glintblade which does less damage with worse tracking than the regular glintblade from the start of the game!
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>>484806831
Ringed City
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>>484806640
there is more new shit in the bloodborne dlc than in the dlc for their multi-million dollar mega giga supersuccess
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>pre-Dragonslayer Guts sword only appears in DS1
>nothing else has come close to looking as good as a Guts reference
>didn't even add a light greatsword variant of it into the DLC
FUCK YOU, HACKS
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>>484806810
lemme guess: You think Gaius is hard and unfair and unfun and did it on foot because you're a retard.
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>>484806314
>Knight's Lighting Spear, almost a FAI version of Comet, spear combos into Gate of Babylon projectiles in pvp, damage can be boosted to stratosphere
I'm co-oping with a friend through the DLC and am playing an int/faith caster, and the amount of damage this thing does with a gravel seal in the offhand(casting with a Golden Order seal) is just absurd. I've oneshot so many invaders with it.
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>>484806797
always tell him to be sad
his quest is fucking pointless and missable
you can lock him into an unrecoverable state where you cannot get his items at all

if you tell him to fuck off and die you can just stroll up to the church and pick up his items, and the only thing you missed was some worthless crafting recipes
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>>484805096
Theres three tree sentinels, and they're soulful you fucking cunt. Stop treating EVERY "reuse" of a boss like its a crime. They're there to watch over Marikas village :(
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okay so if I kill Radahn with a single (no powerstanced) 2h weapon (no shield) with no bleed or cold, is that beating the game?
Quality or bust?
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>>484806721
Mogged by Midir
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>>484806858
That's just how he repays you for helping him out. Please respect his culture.
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>the desperate last-stand R1 mash of mindbroken host cornered after his phantoms died
This is the true reward of invasions. Not the victory, not the rune arc, but seeing the lengths to which ordinary people will shit their pants at the prospect of seeing a loading screen in a videogame
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>>484806471
Torrent is only good for getting away from the goomba stomp and outrunning the homing fireballs, otherwise you're just better off staying on foot where you can do jumping attacks and charged heavies.
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>be me
>playing elden ring
>having fun
>have to go to work
>not having fun
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>>484806926
nostalgia is a hell of a thing. Old hunters was short
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>>484806895
Ringed City is literally built on top of cut content lmao
They had the fucking balls to mention how that gay sleep mask they reskinned out of the firekeeper's mask looked like the original thing in the item description too
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>>484806861
>I would rather fight Radahn than Friede THOUGH
why
honestly why
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>>484806617
INT representative of the DLC
>a scholar who wants to become a mother by lining himself with fingers
FAI representative of the DLC
>a handsome dark and brooding guy with a big titty carian princess gf
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>>484805974
2nding this.

No one gives a shit. I don't think people even care much about Ongbal's videos tbhwy, and you aren't beating that no matter what you do.
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>>484804872
Miquella the silly!
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>>484806895
...are you joking?
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>>484805096
There are 4 Ulcerated Tree Spirits. There are unironically 4 of them.
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>>484807068
yes, torrent is good for avoiding two of his two attacks, trivializes the entire fight, people fuck around on foot and get grabbed and complain about fireballs
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>>484807139
>handsome dark and brooding guy
The lanklet nigga with the snakes coming out of him?
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Funny bug.
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>>484806872
Blinkbolt sucks however
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484806890
Miquella is miyazaki's self insert and I am sick and tired of you all pretending otherwise.
Are we really going to forget he himself was hinting at nuRadahn MONTHS before a single dlc trailer? Whenever any interviewer asked him who his favourite boss or character in the game was, Miyazaki practically would have to stop himself from detailing just how much he wishes he could be darlingly suckling on his dear Radahn's rotten chode ass peepee.
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>>484807038
>they resort of basic AoW spam
>you succumb
>yfw
Nothing worse
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>>484807092
why does it matter if they restore cut content? You havent played it before
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I have never read berserk but I have come to realize that it's like EVA or Madoka where it is a deconstruction of their respective genre.
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>>484807193
Love
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>>484806314
Don't you know already that Elden Ring is a FAITHBVLL game INTsissy?
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>>484806937
nobody remembers the golden age sword sorry bro
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>>484806956
I did gauis on foot and beat his ass easily because i'm not a retard shitter like you
Gimping yourself with horse is retarded shit fucking retards like you do
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TOH > SOTE > Crowns 2 > Crowns 3 > Crowns 1 > TRC >>>>> AA
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>>484806984
>>484807205
AHHHHHHHHHH
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>>484807127
Because this bitch has three health bars. Radahn goes down rather quickly with correct approach.
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>>484806617
Sorry, but Ranni is the canon ending. CarianCHADS win.
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>>484806831
Crown of the Sunken King.
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>>484807351
I can no hit him on horse. Easily. And quickly. You're basically slapping him nonstop if you know what's what.
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I was hoping that the Miquella Band of the Hawk would team up with me to fight Radahn at the end
Just me, Ansbach, and Thollier instead.
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>>484807358
Ringed City has the best bosses out of any from software DLC. It's not even debateable
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I've reached 400 saved miquella pictures. Just felt like letting you guys know.
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>>484806548
you are right on the nose, i have an int/fth build just for this thing (and i also play the carian thusting shield), but i don't feel overpowered in pvp or even invasion.
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>>484806429
Which one is that?
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>>484807398
>muh health bars
It is purely a visual thing. You just can't rush down Friede with broken shit like Radahn. BECAUSE DS3 IS UNIRONICALLY MORE FAIR THAN ER.
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>>484807503
ywnbaw
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>>484806895
>Firelink shrine
>Harvest valley
>Demon princes
>the same demon flight animation they used since DS1
>ruin sentinel archers
Am I forgetting anything?
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>>484794960
devs want autists to spend 40+ tries on each boss and people that have sex to do it on two or three times.
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Bros, is usurper pronounced "You-surper" or "Uh-surper"
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>>484807571
Miriam's vanishing, sold by the Cunt
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>>484806314
Glintstone Nail is a neat little addition, kinda like halfway between Glintblade and Pebble
Impenetrable Thorns is OP and Rings of Spectral Light and the putrescence sorceries are fine but have faith requirements lmao
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>>484807503
post mega
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>finally hit somebody with a Call of Tibia consumable
>it does about 250 per spin
FUCK. I still think it's the ideal punish for people casting big AoW/Spells that have big openings but are hard to punish up close though.
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>>484807465
>just slap the boss with your flioppy micropenis attacks for 3 years becasue you're too shit to fight it normally
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>>484807626
You Surper.
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>>484806873
>>484806615
NTA but no way that works against Metyr. I tried to start running as soon as I got her health bar to around half and I still got hit.
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>>484807038
>the lengths to which ordinary people will shit their pants at the prospect of seeing a loading screen in a videogame
https://youtu.be/4S6I1a6YHtQ
Obligatory.
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STR chad here, any invasion build recommendations? Maybe STR/ARC (hero class). Especially if it can be linked to some sort of cosplay. Greatsword of Solitude is OP btw, even just spamming the AoW. i'm just looking for some other ideas.
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>>484807626
You should know this.
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>>484807604
Dragonslayer Armor rematch
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>>484807348
I hate that almost any unblocked attack in DLC can drop you on your ass. Don't remember this happening so frequently in previous games.
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>>484807310
>where it is a deconstruction
It's not. Miura never claimed it was either. It's not even meant to be.
But I'm not going to outright reject your point, exactly what part of a traditional trope is being deconstructed?
Berserk pretty much starts from page 1 as it intends to go on and every page is a tragedy congaline until Idolmaster infected Miura.
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>>484795337
>every set you wear you wear after said character has worn it and you dont wash them
horrible implication desu.
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>>484806051
The lowest level of 4chan poster are the janny wannabes trying to enforce site culture by chimping out at useful doublespacing. The second lowest level of 4chan poster is the type who obsesses over and sees trannies in every shadow.

You must be proud to be both at once. Oh teh noes, le redditspehss again?!
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>>484807580
what is that supposed to mean
>>484807693
miquella is mine and mine alone
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>>484807703
>3 years
Anon, I get two staggers on average and get to hit lots of charged R2s. His fucking "dreaded charge of endless hitboxes and tears" is a huge fat opening to ramp up a charged R2. I bet you don't even know the Lance Talisman even exists lol.
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>>484804107
Nothing felt better than finally mastering all of Gael's first phase attacks so you can reach phase 2 with an unscathed healthbar and get your shit kicked in again.
In modern Fromsoft, phase 2 would be exactly the same and instead launch explosions with every single strike ending in an arena-wide explosion
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>>484807693
>tumblr: lesbianviolet

i mean... i guess i shouldn't be surprised...
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>>484807176
MIQUELLA
THE
STINKY!
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>>484806436
It's been two weeks and I haven't finished the DLC yet, I have killed less than half the major bosses. Not because I've been taking my time, but because the DLC feels uneven where one moment I will be having a great time and then I fight something so awful that I don't feel like touching the DLC ever again.
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>>484807801
I'm just making a wild guess and thought it starts off as a typical shounen story hen quickly turns horribly tragic from all the osmosis I've soaked up.
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>roll x10
>charged r2
>roll x10
>charged r2
miyazaki needs to step it the fuck up with the combat system. They already got mogged to shit by Nioh 2 and Lies of P
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>>484807139
>>a handsome dark and brooding guy with a big titty carian princess gf
More like stuttering volcel shut-in
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>>484807310
Berserk isn't so much of a deconstruction. It's more that at its core it's a really emotional tale that got overshadowed by edgelords going "WOW GUTS SO MUCH BLOOD AND GORE AND RAGE" when it's got a really big focus on feelings and struggling through the shit life can put you through.
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Use this for new thread OP.
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>>484806436
>pipeslug
I don't like the look of this guy.
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>>484807358
Sorry, my gay neighbor posted this, here’s the correct listing:

TRC >>>>>>> TOH >>>>>>>> AotA >>> AoA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunken King > Old Iron King >>>> Ivory King
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>Ancestral talisman
>Blue dew regen talisman
>only press L2 throughout the entirety of this co-op
>never run out of FP
>get to boss
>only press L2
>boss dies
L2 Ring.
Also killed several reds, one in particular got decimated, I felt bad.
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>>484807068
Torrent is good for always being at the right place for the camera to show both feet so that you can actually avoid his stomps. Also good for always being behind him to avoid any attacks with his hands.
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>>484808082
Just remake Dark Souls 1 but focus on making the combat fun
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>>484808061
no it starts of with everything being awful and then it gets better, only to get much worse.
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>>484808153
>sample
come on, download it on the highest quality possible
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>>484807626
You are my Surper!
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>>484808153
>sample
miquella the moron
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>>484808082
ok but consider that I don't want half the game to be about parrying or pressing B after every other attack to suck up the stamina juice
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I want to hug Sellen
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i made a thread
>>484808279
>>484808279
>>484808279
>>484808279
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>>484808082
Try throwing in some rolling r1s. I guarantee you're missing openings.
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>>484807249
>>484808119
and a hunchback too, dude can't stand up straight
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>>484807854
>miquella is mine and mine alone
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>>484808171
He has an eye for piping a good slug is all
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>>484808179
good post
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>>484808179
shit post
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>>484807745
>click link
>saint riot
>close tab
I don't have the time or patience to sit and listen to him ramble and try to sound not mad for fifteen minutes over shit he inflicted on himself.
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>>484808179
middling post
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>>484808359
I could but does it really matter? A CR2 build already destroys the whole game easily, if I really care about a poise break I'll throw some kukris/fan dagger.
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>>484807832
The Reddit spacing meme is the most retarded fucking shit newfags trying way too hard to fit in have ever come up with. When I came crawling back here after 4+4chan died I started noticing dipshits everywhere spouting that dumbass phrase whenever someone spaced out their paragraphs. You can go to b4k right now and use the search filters to see that its use didn't start coming into prominence until around 2017-2018.
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>>484794954
>>Soldier of Godrick
>right
>>Ulcerated Tree Spirit
>is that at the end of the bullshit rally dungeon at the first grace?
stormveil basement
>tree where?
tright behind varre
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>>484808183
Chuck the Sacrificial Axe in your offhand for even more FP regen.
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thats what they call increasing the range? the scriptsmith cirques still feel like shit
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>>484806426
actually that still goes to sekiro by a long shot thoughbeit
bull fights notwithstanding
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This /erg/ thread has ended.
Final male/tranny/female post ratio for this thread:
6 - 1 - 3
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>>484805348
hmmmm... you make good points, anon. i'll try it this weekend and see how it goes.
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>>484798509
>both options are terrible.
gayboy nuke is perfect with a sleep build. as soon as they go nightnight i swap out my trina torch for finger staff and delete the whole squad and their grandparents
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>>484798646
>cheat engine faggotry
>tranny character
why are brown people like thus? how is this even fun?
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>>484806471
Honestly Adula's frost sword & torrent make the fire Golem easy. Hit their leg as they flare up to stomp & you'll stagger them. A stagger or two. H they fall
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>>484807759
>chad
*chud
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Gays like miquella and girls like Messmer. It is written.
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>>484798340
>Godwynbros...this can't be happening...our golden prince will never return...
Shieet, did we even find out who Melenia really is in the end?
Feels like even for a FromSoft game, this one left a lot of threads unresolved
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>>484800268
the anon who hunts down streamers and writes NIGGER with magic in the sky and then gets their accounts banned with illegal items is pretty based. cant recall his name but guy is fucking hilarious. definitely
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The hornsent killed the Frenzied Flame fag in the manse, but nobody seems to care that they are 100% the good guys & only focus on the theoretical "suffering" of Marika who then tried to kill them all. They weren't stuffing innocents I to jars, they were st7ffing criminals into them
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>>484812003
>They weren't stuffing innocents I to jars, they were st7ffing criminals into them
What about shamans?
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>>484811553
>who Melenia really is
You mean Melina? That was obvious in the base game, lol.
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>>484803736
>this spell that takes 5s to cast deals the same damage as a single cast of glintstone icecrag, and thats when majority of the beams hit
wtf
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>>484812179
The shamans must have done something wrong.
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>>484803142
My problem with the music is most of the music hardly fit the fights. The only music in the DLC that fit the pace of the fights was Divine Beast. A track like Miquella's is great in itself, but it doesn't match with the fast pace and spammy of the Radahn fight. The fight in general is underwhelming, though. The point of fighting Radahn is that he's at his peak, the mightiest of the demigods before Malenia rot nuked him, but now he needs the help of his boyfriend to fight you? Should have just made Miquella and Radahn separate fights. The latter being a tough gitgud fight with the other being a cinematic fight wouldn't be a problem.
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>>484803927
cringe. also sounds more like nioh 2



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