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"Stop crying about Radahn, nobody cares" edition

>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-1123

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
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>Group password
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>Previous
>>484895885
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>hosts that die before you can even enter the fog
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the only people that wanted Godwyn to return are lorelets
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Marika sex
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What a sick way to fight, eh?
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Radahn is a shit boss chud.
Sorry
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>>484911769
I love my mommy
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Oh Mickey you're so fine
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Crimsonspill me on Bear Communion
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>>484911769
I look like that
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>>484911982
Otherkin
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Someone told me this skill was weak.
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>>484911982
It's awful.
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>>484912032
can I sleep on your thighs?
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>>484912105
Now try it in someone who isn't using soreseals/scorpions or in PvE.
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Stop crying about Radahn, nobody cares
Every thread its the same arguments, over and over
If you had spent half the time you do, coping, bitching and ragebaiting in these threads, you would've started to get a grasp of his mechanics already.
Yes he attacks alot, and yes the pillars of light can be a bit much, but he doesn't have any undodgeable attacks, he doesn't have any oneshots, and literally everything he does is reactable. Stop crying about his cross-slash move what the fuck.
Everyone keeps constructing their little scenario, where Radahn does 20 second long combos without any opening, and then teleports away from them and takes forever getting back into the fight, etc etc.
This hasn't happened once in my 100's of fights against him. But if you try to argue with these people, they'll just refer to their made-up (or extremely unlikely, super-unlucky) experience with the fight, making any discussion useless.
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>>484912221
licking sweaty goddess pits
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if miquella fucks radahn...
and radahn is in mohg's body...

it's a threesome, isn't it?

gay threesomes are mainstream media now?

(aren't both radahn and mohg technically dead at this point?)

japan wasn't nuked enough
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This game needs more comical enemy AI
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>>484912105
You played against an idiot. It does no damage in pve and in pvp it's a joke to dodge.
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>>484911982
Requires a heavy investment. However, it's insanely powerful when used correctly. I've hit for over 1,000 with it and it's range is VERY far. Brutal in a gank scenario. Red couldn't do anything. Decent as an ambush tool. But again, requires a heavy investment. 80 Faith. Multiple talismans. Etc.
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>>484912131
no, fag
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so this is balanced
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I genuinely dont think its possible to beat Consort Radahn. It doesn't seem to matter what weapons, equipment, tailsmans, etc, I use, I just lose. The fight is so boring to begin with, I can get him to phase 2 without even taking damage most of the time. Just the sheer stupidity of the fight is making me want to give up. It's just rollspam for 5 minutes until you get your 1 single attack opening, then back to rollspam. If you make any single mistake you are guaranteed to take 60+% of your HP bar (regardless of buffs) and the fight is basically over at that point and you might as well restart. Not even counting or mentioning the insane amount of AOE bullshit in phase 2 at all times.

Seriously, I just don't get it. I don't see how you can win, it's just tedious memorization until you no-hit win. It sucks.
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BEHOLD!
MY ABSOLUTE POWER!
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>>484912323
lets see a pvp webm
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>>484912291
kek started his spin attack and gained momentum from the looks of it
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>>484912234
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>>484912275
It’s not so bad. They’re the villain(s) and you’re meant to kill them. So, set things right and kill them.
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>>484912221
Rare based Marika gooner post
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>>484911769
Amazing that westoids now think this is what marika actually looks like, same that happened with 2B SFM models.
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>smaller guy piggybacks bigger guy boss fight
Cringe or kino?
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>>484912234
>>484912395
cute
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>>484912492
Bad because not Elden Ring.
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>>484912275
Unironically it's okay when Japan does it
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>>484912323
dexfags have no right to complain with the shit they have
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>>484912395
Accidentally posted a screenshot
>>484912234
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how do you turn this off
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>>484912172
>even if that destroyed his whole sense of self and the rest of his existence would be agony
Why must godhood necessarily be a prison and an existence filled with agony?
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>>484912492
It was done better here, even if the boss was easy af
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How cringe and un-lore-friendly is it that I RP this guy having been a Tarnished who lost what little Grace he had because he challenged Malenia, got his arm Vergil'd by her and then, because of her slightly fucked vision and pre-Millicent amnesia, she confused him for Miquella/Godwyn and raped him but he remained smitten by her and vowed to be her hand hence trying to emulate her style and fighting?
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radahn bad
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>>484912590
you dont
but it barely has any buildup, they should've doubled the buildup rate to make it actually threatening
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>>484912590
I don't think you can, you just avoid it
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>>484912214
I did similar damage on another dude and I don't think both were wearing the Soreseal.
This is my PVE damage at skibidi level 6
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I want to defeat Leda but just barely leave her alive. Go kill her precious god and then have my way with her in passionate hate-fuelled sex. Make it violent, wrathful, bloody. And it wouldn't end there. Oh no. I would go on to kill Radagon, the Elden Beast and Marika and then have Leda serve as my wife, the Golden Order utterly destroyed. I would take Miquella's 'Age of Compassion' and turn it into a reality. All while censoring the existence of Miquella. I would become the 'Kind Lord' or 'Tender Lord' renowned for my love for all life. All while my love with my wife is built upon the foundations of hatred. All with her developing a bitter self-loathing sense of respect and attraction for me for all of my strength, achievements and making the world into a compassionate place. An irrational and hateful loyalty. Pleasure from inflicting pain upon me as I elicit pleasure from the pain I inflict upon her.

And in the end it would inevitably crumble. The compassionate world would collapse from its inherently violent and cruel foundations. Its king and queen being such sick and sadistic people. Oh what a sight it would be. And Leda would be there to watch it all burn.

Also her outfit and sword are pretty cool.
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was the whole "Let me Solo Her" thing during Elden Rings launch or was it some random time later?
i couldve sworn it was more recent
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>>484911769
What do you guy think about Hornsent?
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>>484912646
powerful...
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>>484912492
pretty cool but why is it always two dudes?
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>>484912646
nuh uh!
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>>484912730
E R A D I C A T I O N
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>>484912383
okay
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>>484912730
Messmer did nothing wrong
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So I think I figured it out. Miquella IS the top. Here's why:
>In Japan for ships the top the "male" of the pairing is listed first and the bottom the "female" of the pairing is mentioned second.
>the filename associated with the boss in jp is MikeRad or Miqrad(miquella is sometimes called mike in jp)
>not only is his name mentioned first but if the "he's brainwashing" radahn theory is correct he's wholly incharge there or at least mostly
>radahn in first phase takes extra poise damage from behind meaning his behind is weak somehow
>it's often considered painful for men to be fucked from behind by a large penis
>the only reason radahn could have if he's weak from behind is that his behind is sore
>therefore miquella potentially fucked him right before ascending or did something to make him so weak from behind
They likely consummated their union before we came into the boss room.
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Anyone know a good place to get saves?
I want to play DEX or caster builds as my save is Hero.... so I guess I'm autistic about min-maxxing stats at RL150.
I could just make a new save and use Grand Merchant to item stuff in but I really don't want to
>activate summon pools again
>get graces again
>pick up skibidi fragments again
Preferably finished Shadow Keep.
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post the litterbox link
you know the one
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Cute and Canon
Radahn consented, the battle of Aeonia was larping so Radahn could die a honorable death and be worthy of becoming and Elden Lord (like Godfrey). The aeonia itself was an accident.
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>What, still here? Hand it over, that thing. Your Elden Ring.

Can’t believe they got away with this.
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>>484912617
That's just a common trope in Japan and in some western stories in general. That ascension requires or leads to suffering. It often requires death, as we see with ranni, losing much of your free will, which we see with marika, succumbing to something out of your control, as we see with malenia, or discarded aspects of yourself, as we see with miquella.
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>>484912892
Damn, imagine Miquellas tiny penis going in and out of Radahn blown out, scarlet rotted, omen spliced asshole
Do you think Radahn did his spinning tornado gravity attack, but on Miquellas dong?
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>>484912892
Big dick Miq.
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>>484912943
>>484912892
https://litter.catbox.moe/dq3uyo.webm
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So, Melina is older than Godwyn?
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>>484912914
Just cheat engine your stats and items
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>>484912730
I gave him scorpion stew but he was sassy about it so I killed him
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>>484913094
Yeah it seems so. She was Marikas second child before she took Godfrey as consort
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>>484912234
Radahn was wearing a haligtree the whole time though?
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>>484913053
>Do you think Radahn did his spinning tornado gravity attack, but on Miquellas dong?
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>>484912807
I'm going to start wearing the Pumpkin Helm just because of throwing weapons.
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>>484912891
>it's potentially canon that godwyn was giving miquella advice for how to court radahn based on what he saw of his own mother and father knowing how much radahn mimicked his dad
>it's entirely possible that godwyn told miquella "hey bro hop on his back and pretend to be serosh he'd love that i bet"
>it's entirely possible that their entire family even radagon knew of miquella wanting radahn to be his consort and supported it
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FUCK NIGGERS THAT TRY TO DO RADAHN WITH LESS THAN +5 BLESSING AND STILL SUMMON
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>>484913197
What? Who was before Godfrey? And where does it say Messmer is her first?
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>>484913081
source?
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>Started Dragon Communion build for the DLC
>Already regretting it
They're strong, and rot breath is a good utility, but god damn they're so slow and boring. It doesn't matter if Dragonmaw can do a ton of damage if it's unusable against 99% of enemies because they just hit you out of it.

Watching people panic and die to the coof in PVP never gets old, however.
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>>484913050
Yes it seems you’re right. Griffith comes to mind, for those who know Berserk. I wish we had a little more detail on what precisely Ranni’s thousand-year journey into darkness looks like. But I guess we are just left to imagine the particulars of that fate.
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Where are the non tumblrwhale messmer appreciators
He's the coolest character in the whole game
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>>484913392
Some /gif/ thread from a few months ago now
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>>484913262
scattershot completely breaks the design of headshots
just throw it in the direction of an enemy and the cone is going to hit their head with at least one projectile

why does a shotgun get a headshot bonus?
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anons are in their right to like Miquella as a top, but i still preffer power bottom Miquella and having Radahn as a Service top... So that's how it's going to be in the fanfics i write and art i commission
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>>484913053
It's very possible miquella is hung like a horse, maybe literally, notice how leonard isn't there, and miquella is clearly capable of grafting or fusing body parts.
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So I wake up and now I have huge frame drop issues. Constant stuttering making me unable to play. Did they drop a patch that fucked up everything? Am I the only one having this problem?
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>>484913436
His design is very cool. And he’s also very tragic and sad.
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>>484913436
They're too busy raping hosts with his spear and incantation to post.
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>>484913537
works on my machine
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>>484913537
play offline with EAC disabled
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>>484913227
Whuwhaaaaat?
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Shrine Maiden Village
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>>484913386
>Who was before Godfrey?
Radagon. Messmer and Melina are cursed similar to Miquella and Malenia. Messmer has Radagons red hair
>where does it say Messmer is her first?
Messmer was abandoned in the shadow lands so it can be assumed he was born there before she came to the lands between
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>>484913436
Mesmer is my favorite bossfight in the DLC, despite being on the "easier" side.
Midras and Dancing Lions theme is slightly better, but they are even easier than him.
Radahn is harder and more fun, but has a worse theme.
Mesmer has a 9.5/10 theme, and a 9.5/10 fight, plus his lore is fucking peak.
God bless Mesmer, but also god bless the rest of the bosses, except that one overstatted ancient dragon on the way to Bayle, fuck that one.
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>>484913053
>>484913235
>radahn learned gravity magic to ride his horse
>the horse wasn't specified to be leonard
OH NO NO NO
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>tops
>bottoms
>buttfuck fanfics
Why are so many of you gay homosexuals?
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>>484913685
>He doesn't know
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>>484913685
Because poopie penis and GRIDs (gay-related immuno deficiency) is the new norm, grandpa
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>>484913720
You are right. Me doesn’t know. Is 4chan perhaps the gayest website on this whole gay earth?
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>>484911982
Takes as much time to finish as Grey's roar with less damage.
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>>484912323
Man we've come a long way from the Dark Souls 3 Crow Quills.
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>>484913685
Why did Miyazaki insert incest, homosexuality and pedophilia in the final fight of the story?
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>>484913782
There's at least 3 biofem fujos here, 2 tranny "fujos" and 10 different gay men here.
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I want to run a dual blade dex build for my DLC run.
Is dual blading fun to play to begin with?
And any recommendation of spells to go with it?
Or a full build to recommend that's using dual blades.
Also, there are been so many fanart of Marika that I legit tought I missed her boss fight by not doing a quest or something. Coomers should be jailed. What a let down. Even if the game is 10/10
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CAN YOU ALL STOP BEING GAY
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People were saying the GW is marika's vision and that's not true, the game says who created it and it was the elden ring itself.

>"Queen Marika is the vessel of the Elden Ring, carrier of its vision.
>"Marika's trespass demanded a heavy sentence. But even in shackles, she remains a god, and the vision's vessel.
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>>484913659
Messmer is stated to have been in the land of the Erdtree prior to being "secreted away" to the land of shadow. His curse was effectively hidden with the seal but Marika became more and more fearful of it. He had to have been in TLB since he took a lot of noblemen and Rellana with him.
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>>484913659
The shadow lands were part of the lands between before she sealed them away. He would've been born after her ascension to godhood and as far as we know Godfrey was her first consort.
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Is it still the case that if two-handing your sword, there's no need to go beyond 66 Strength?
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>>484913879
>biofem
There are no girls on the internet.
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>>484913685
Fujoshit game
Yumetard general
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>>484913892
>>>/pol/
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>>484912221
>where Radahn does 20 second long combos without any opening,
It's 11 seconds
Uppercut-mid air into rocks into repeating strikes where is body is still mid air is an interaction where he can't be touched for those 11 seconds.
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>>484913685
>>484913979
>flee ffxiv because it was overtaken by fujoshis, gay men, and yumes to the point that shadowbringers was written by an admitted fujo
>now elden ring is being overtaken by them
Is there nowhere safe?
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>>484913982
>"stop lusting after little boys" is considered a fringe position
grim
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>>484913892
no
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>>484913937
I don't think the hair color is a good indicator either since Rykard is blonde in his paintings.
I'm not saying Messmer had to be Godfrey's son though.
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>>484912323
The more annoying part is that IF this gets nerfed it's going to take throwing daggers scattershot with it.
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>>484914075
Nuh uh he’s 3000000 years old and he’s a dragon so I’m not a pedo!!!!!1!
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>>484912361
just use a greatshield, the fight isn't honest
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>>484914075
Chud incel, how can you even say things like that. Go out into the real world and touch some grass maybe? Everyone is having sex and love, except you. Its YOU there something wrong with obviously.
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Does entering certain areas lock some quests/make NPCs disappear?
I just reached Liurnia and want to explore the rest of the map for a while, to gather some shit. But I also want to complete as many quests as possible.
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Is my build just terrible or did frenzied flame get nerfed into the ground?
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>>484914073
Fujos are taking over markets in japan because their aging population means that suddenly a lot more single women are working careers with no expenses and just spend all their money on hobbies.
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Jannies pls
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>>484914075
Just update your filters
The fag(s) don't talk about the gameplay. Omitting the entirety of multiple words I've noticed (by checking the stubs once threads were over) caught only 4 legitimate posts in 9 threads and over 300 pictures with a single sentence or some pederast.
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Radahn was so hard that I actually started using wondrous physick
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>>484914075
It's funny how they always argue about it because "it's gay" and not because it's pedophilia, as if the chuds and fags are already in agreement that part is fine
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I hate back scabbards so much bros, they fuck with all my fashion
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>>484913160
I'M GONNA YOOM
AAAAAAAAAAAGH I'M YOOOOOOOMING
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>>484913937
>>484914094
That's the thing. If radagon was always marika then marika should be able to have redhead kids even without banging radagon as radagon could do the same. If that's the case then the father could still be godfrey or it could be some unexplained person. I think their hair color comes from their respective curses however. Radagon's kids have the same shade of hair as him, but messmer's is darker, and melina's is a salmon pink. I don't think we can look at hair color to determine parentage.
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Man I see people posting all these webms and shit and I haven't seen half these weapons and ashes of war even though I've visited pretty much all of the map except for the divine tower that you need messmer's flame for. I've actually tried to look out for loot and scarabs too, what the hell.
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>>484913967
>t. one of the tranny "fujo"s
Ovaries exist out in the real world away from your "silly girl" circlejerk
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>>484914226
Enjoy your vaycay, should've atleast posted something GOOD
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>>484914075
it's because Elden Ring fandom is so obsessed over penis and age that From was afraid to add a Miquella ending to the game
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>>484914201
>>484913882
bumpl pls, I know the spoonfeeding nature of my questions and I know how much homosexual talks are important but I'd like to be helped.
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>>484914387
Bro I’m agreeing with you. Ovaries exist in the real world, but not on the internet. All internet girls are actually “girls”.
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>>484912221
If you had hundreds of fights against him, sounds like you are the one that needs help beating him.
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Miquella’s charms could never work on me! I have conquered such desires. I am immune.
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>>484914459
>>484914201
https://pastebin.com/H7ANjU87
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>>484914605
this flip-flopping snake nigger is such a bastard
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>>484913949
basically. I'm at 82 strength in DLC and it's not really worth it. If you wanted an argument for 99 STR it's that at 82 I'm close to one-shotting a lot of enemies with jump attacks so making it to 99 will let me 1 shot a lot of common mobs. But so will increasing my scadau level, switching gear, using a consumable buff, casting a buff, etc. I think maybe with some giga autism someone could make the argument that 99 STR with X buffs will take X fewer jump attacks to clear a boss vs 66 STR but I doubt the difference would be higher than like 2.

I'm not sure exactly how damage calculation works so I don't know if some stuff prefers to work off the base AR of your weapon rather than the total AR non-buffed. If total AR without buffs is factored into something significant then maybe there's an edge case where 99 STR is useful, maybe with a specific ash of war
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The ARC hammer is pretty scary.
>one shot damage if it hits
>20% lightning debuff that applies even on phantom hits
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>>484914376
Its all in the divine tower that you need messmers flame for
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The base game's mistake was allowing players to ignore boss movesets. It was never about fair or unfair mechanics. These people would be crying about the Orphan of Kos just the same since you actually have to learn his moveset
People are only seething about the DLC because it forced them to change tactics. If the base game hadn't enabled them before they wouldn't be crying about it now.
The only objective problem with the DLC is that you can't see shit during Radahn's second phase.
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>>484914576
Because King MORGOTT is the true child of GODFREY, while FAGdahn is just a fanboy
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>>484913882
>>484914459
What the fuck are "dual blades" you retarded ESL? That could mean a dozen different fucking things.
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Is this thing still good with magic scaling? I was thinking about making a gravity mage and since it doesnt scale with STR when infused with magic (supposedly) it would make a nice addition and it would fit the theme of throwing heavy things around. I would probably put endure or waves of darkness on it.
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>>484914459
Anon posted the quest list so you should read it.
I really only make sure to do Rya, Ranni, Patches, and Goldmask before finishing off Morgott.

As for running dual blading it's viable and can be fun.
You might need to swap the ashes a bunch to maintain fun.
The usual suite of faith spells will do you wonders as your lack of a shield will naturally preclude you from never getting touched ever ever.
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>>484914782
>ARC hammer
What now?
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>>484913227
To me this looks like a stylized depiction of the Erdtree, the trunk has some surface level resemblance to the pattern of the Haligtree, but it's not actually coiling like the Haligtree does in its depictions, the space between the curves is always filled in with miscellaneous patterns and the borders don't actually cross each other
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Finally finished the DLC, autistic me had to search every nook and cranny before i progressed. I think i beat every boss.
How bad was the seethe here when the leaks turned out true? Is that horrible fag still around?
What do you guys think the most active summoning range is now? I'm at 150 and it seems pretty active at least outside the DLC
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>>484914782
I've been singing this things praises since launch. You could use a slow as shit breath spell and get half the damage over it's full duration.
OR
You could one shot them from 1900 with a lightningbolt that can do over 2300 against most low lightning resist builds or builds that get their shit shredded first.

It's just the ultimate beat stick for all arcane builds.
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>>484914963
They nerfed the scaling on smithscript weapons.
>or waves of darkness on it
There's no reason to put WoD on anything but great stars or the butchering knife.
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Someone remind me how Miquella suddenly became a full blown god?
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I wish I could have saved Miquella from his tragic fate. But he would have never allowed me to do so. He had to be put down. I wonder what happens now to the discarded St. Trina.
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>>484915163
He's retarded and thinks the chicken wing is a """""hammer""""".
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>>484913053
>>484913668
>Radahn gets dommed by his tiny girlcock
>Mohg fucked Miquella's bussy to death
>Radahn ends up needing Mohg's body and Mohg's powers to achieve lordship
Radahnbros...the MohgCHADS are laughing...
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>>484914576
why do you even have to ask?
true king > faggot usurper
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>>484915163
Flowerstone Gavel.
The L2 is a chargeable red lightning version of Thunderbolt that applies a massive lightning debuff.
>>484914963
The elemental infusions got a pretty big nerf.
I think it would work best on a STR build with the Cold infusion.
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>>484915202
150 is active, it gets pretty inactive from 180 until like 220+ at which point you'll start getting frequent summons into cycles. Which isn't a good time.

>>484915324
Anon. He's clearly not talking about the chicken wing.
The chicken wing is bleed damage.
The Flowerstone Gavel is lightning
The chickenwing doesn't shred lightning resist
The Flowerstone Gavel does.
He's talking about the Flowerstone Gavel.
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Ceobe thinks spamming dodge with bosses is fun!
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>>484915359
>>484915449
Shit that sounds awesome, but if it's red lightning why is it ARC and not FAI?
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Did any loretuber ever explain (bullshit) the significance of the flowers in ER like here's a white lilac it represents the innocence of Malenia before she menstruated
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Anyone else get really bad eyestrain from ER and like no other games?
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>>484915449
>He's talking about the Flowerstone Gavel.
That's not a fucking hammer either.
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>>484915638
Yeah, it's because the lighting is incredibly shit and an area that isn't dark is bright as fuck and harsh on the eyes.
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>>484915165
Look closely it coils similarly.
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didn't think I would need to make filters for erg but now that the image spam is gone the quality has much improved
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>>484915638
Turn camera motion blur off.
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>>484915420
I prefer this to them trying to claim it as theirs tbhdesu
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>>484915749
hello newfriend
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>>484912302
What talismans do I need to make it work?
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>>484912640
neat clothing combination. And do w/e gives you enjoyment, anon.
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>>484915343
>mohg fucked miquella's bussy
ACTUALLY one of the few other bosses weak to that much damage from behind is mohg but less so than radahn. It's likely mohg also got dicked by miquella especially when you consider he was also mind controlled and a name associated with them is miqmohg. Miquella is just a josou seme rapist
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I'm going to make my first greatshield doom turtle build in ER since the very first time I played dark souls for the first time and done my first run in full smoughs, havels greatshield, BKGA and never rolling.
I can already feel the crushing weight of boredom.
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>>484915578
I guess it's meant to be used as a debuff tool by FTH lightning builds and as a damage tool by ARC ones.
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>>484915664
Its weapon type is literally 'hammer'.
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>>484915343
>>484915953
>Miquella fucked both mohg and radahn's asses
I'm glad godwyn isn't the final boss now.
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what's the max amount of estus in NG0?
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>>484915578
Don't know
The same reason the lightning damage scales directly with ARC and not AR and doesn't cap until 80.
No but the real reason is because it's not emulating an ancient dragon's lightning, it outright is an ancient dragon's lightning.

>>484915749
Yeah it dramatically makes the thread more readable.

>>484915664
Give me your keys. You're dunk.
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>>484913852
But does it have more range? I want a hit through walls tool that doesn't require me to equip radahn swords
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>>484915845
cute ranni
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>>484916114
Whatever you start with, anything more is cheating.
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Ranni won me over with her accent. I know they say Miquella is very charming, but he can’t compete with that.
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>>484915420
This post does not have ovaries
>>484915571
This post has ovaries
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>>484916114
14
It's capped so even at NG+7 the max is still 14
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>>484916146
Honestly? I'd have to test it. I wouldn't want to give out false information.
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The red bears are so cool
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>>484912892
You all now realize that it's entirely in character for malenia and cleanrot knights to hold radahn down while miquella fucks him against his will
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>>484916286
oh. thanks. guess I'm missing just one then. helping people with Radahn with only 6 heals is annoying
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>>484916297
I love my copy and paste slop.
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>>484916204
She has been winning since the beginning and dlc didn't change it.
>>484916297
I was surprised I actually ended up liking that Bearboss
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>>484915607
Charo's hidden graveyard looks like it's covered in red spider lillies which have many associations, mostly with death. In lotus Buddhism they're flowers that grow in hell which guide the dead to their next reincarnation. Now give me a $20 super chat dumpass
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>>484915359
sounds nice, but sadly cant make use of STR scaling for casting sorceries.
>Meteoric Greatsword scales with ARCANE and not Intelligence
WHY?
WHat is the reason for this fuckery? Same with Florisax gavel obviously made to cater to dragon cult builds but scaling as if it was for Dragon Communion. Should I do a FTH/ARC build using lightning incants?
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>>484915953
>>484916105
>Miquella died from Mohg's ass
The CHAD Mohg's ass BROKE Miquella's little cock. Radahnbros...our ass is WEAK. Radahn should have asked Mohg for advice on controlling his rectal muscles...
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Stop saying Miquella mind raped Radahn. There's no indication it wasn't 100% consensual. So what if he has nothing to say, maybe he's more of a silent stoic guy.
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>>484915165
Erdtree sigils have more of a cross design. Also, the oval leaves on the haligtree match up with the cloaks
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>>484911839
From needs to fix the boss fog on the Putrescent Knight I'm getting tired of jumping down only to see the host die
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>>484916357
>Ranni painstakingly making a precise replica of herself and then acting shocked when I immediately recognize her
I love my autistic witch wife
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>>484916448
Shut the fuck up Malenia
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>>484916448
>Malenia had to go fight him half to death then give him superAIDS just to make him honor his vow that was probably made under a charm in the first place
Radahn was 100% raped
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>>484912301
>>484912214
>does no damage
what are you guys using it on? I've already killed 3 people with it on the Black Knight Twin Blade
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>>484916468
I'm getting tired of being summoned for that fight in general.
yesterday it was 11 putrescent knight, 2 Radahn, 1 Messmer, 4 gaius, and 16 sunflowers (yes I kept a tally)
I outright disabled the sunflower. Garbage fight. It's not even fun to carry people through. Either yoou solo it 100 to 0 or the host pretends to be useful, can't dodge any attacks, and dodges from it's long range brambles that bleed.
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reminder that if you touched a single grace or died at all you did not beat the game
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>>484916573
>that was probably made under a charm in the first place
Prove this while not resorting to fanfiction.
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>finally found the perfect hat and went full gunslinger
>gunslinger dreams immediately destroyed by the fact that no matter how hard you try, crossbows will never ever be good
fuck you miyazaki, you obviously were bitten by a dog as a kid, but did someone also shoot you with a crossbow?
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Why couldn't they make Erdtree avatars actually good and unique like Scadutree avatar and instead made them just asylum demon with some magic?
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>>484916448
Sorry bro but Radahn didn't consent.
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Radahn being harder with summons than solo is infinitely funny to me.
The biggest troll the From pulled on the babies that summoned their way through the game instead of learning it.
INCREDIBLY based.
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I'm trying to come up with an edgy backstory for my priest character. I'm digging the classic "I used to be an evil piece of shit, then I found God."
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>>484916673
The simple fact Malenia had to go fight him to make him honor it. We know Radahn to be kind and honorable, so why would he have to be muscled into honoring a vow he made?
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>>484916448
General Radahn is an ass-muncher.
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>>484912807
>starts Swift Slash
>Gets staggered out of animation
>still get hit from air currents
that's bullshit and I don't care what you say
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>>484916789
But a shitload of the religious in this game are evil pieces of shit...
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I thought I was bad at the game but being summoned shows me that somehow 90% of players are worse than me
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>>484916441
>the reason miquella's corpse is so shriveled up in the cocoon is because mohgs omen ass drained his balls then his life force
>he specifically chose mohg as the body for radahns soul so he could feel the sensation of mohg's omen hole and radahns loud roars at the same time
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>Radahn consented
>Radahn was raped
We wouldn’t have this problem if Miyazaki was willing to include explanations for even the most basic plot points in his games.
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>>484916775
It's still easier with summons. Two shield lords poking Radahn to death will carry your ass through the fight 100% unless you (not you, anon), stupid host that you are, attack into Radahn and die to a combo you never learned to dodge.
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>>484916702
Well, at least I know I'm not alone in my inexplicable desire to cosplay as a cowboy in the Lands Between. God I wish we had Bloodborne clothes.
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Marika and Ranni oyakodon
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>>484916881
Being 'average' is so much worse than you think. Then you see what 'below average' is.
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>>484916824
OHHHHH
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>>484916702
I now want a wild west-inspired soul game.
Obviously the indians would worship eldritch gods and alien entities.
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>Raya Lucaria
>Leyndell
>Anor Londo
>Irithyll
>Yharnam
Whoever is in charge of naming places at Fromsoft is very good at their job.
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>>484916890
All the evidence points to Radahn being raped by rapequella the god of roofie magic, only fujopedos would argue otherwise
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There's a good chance if malenia is a fujo that ranni is at fault for it. She probably gave malenia one of the books she had from the land of reeds before malenia lost her eyesight.
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Should I disconnect my game before I multiply items with CE?
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>>484916991
>I now want a wild west-inspired soul game
>Obviously the indians would worship eldritch gods and alien entities.
this would be kino

makes me think of those old theories or fake leaks or whatever it was of a Bloodborne 2 being set in Egypt or something like that
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>>484917067
Read the guide, anon. It's three sentences long.
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>>484916991
I want a Pirate Souls game first
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>>484916370
>Should I do a FTH/ARC build using lightning incants?
It's not a bad idea, 36 FTH gives you access to every useful lightning incant aside from Death Lightning that isn't really necessary.
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>>484916889
>Miquella saw Mohg's ass shaking under his robe one time
>Immediately became obsessed with it and charmed him
>Got spirited away like some kind of fucked up rape fetish fantasy
>Fucked relentlessly while his promised consort and the region he loves is nuked by cosmic aids
>Dies from the sheer pleasure of Mohg's fat fucking arse bouncing on his penis
>Shoves Radahn's soul into Mohg's body so he can enjoy that fat fucking arse for at least the next thousand years
>Age of CompASSion
Mohg's ass is DANGEROUS.
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>>484917058
You’re probably right but it doesn’t make any difference to me. I’m killing them both either way.
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>>484917146
Oh, I was gonna rawdog it instead of downloading a table. Thanks.
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>>484917067
No, you're free to use CE while online. Nothing bad will happen and your account won't be flagged for violating terms of service or anything silly like that.
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>>484911769
Why does she look retarded?
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>>484916775
Radahn is 100% easier with summons dude
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>>484916795
Because he's a shonen anime character who wanted to be defeated in combat before becoming Miquella's elden lord.
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>>484916789
go the other way
>was a hero
>got btfo'd and had to run away
>while running away got contacted and corrupted by an evil serpent god
>now spends his day luring sacrifices to the serpent god under the guise of "protection"
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>>484917058
>All the evidence
What evidence.
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>>484917286
>delusionals trying to tell themselves radahn is harder solo
lol
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>>484916795
nta, but what if he wanted in the vow could very much be a honorable death to be like us idol Godfrey.
Also the secret rite scrolls strangely mentions that the vessel for the lord's soul doesn't need to be the original one. Why mention that, if one could very much
becomes Elden Lord without that? Maybe the ritual requires the consort to die and then return to be able to open the gates for the entrance of a new god.
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Boss co-op in this dlc is fucking impossible. Everything gets a 6 digit health bar with two summons and NOT A SINGLE FUCKING HOST HAS ANY GODDAMN SHIT TREE FRAGMENTS
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>>484916370
ARC/FTH is really good
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>>484913685
the hetero stuff is just as annoying desu.

relationship/sex starved fiends.
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>>484917480
If they were the kind of player that engages with game mechanics they wouldn't be summoning in the first place
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>>484912462
So what? I haven't play either those games yet but I saved many of their images.
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>>484917480
You have to tank max to co-op. I'm serious. If your absorption isn't hitting 81+% after buffs to whatever element the boss is using at +2 skibidis you're in for a bad time.
If you reach at least that, you can kill the boss with good play provided you put on Shabriri's Woe and never fucking take it off because I'm sick of hosts dying to fucking Gaius being on them for a single attack string while I rebuff my sword.
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>>484917480
I have the opposite problem: The entire reason I'm co oping is because I want to help people but I am fucking terrible with these bosses. Best I can do is spam magic/lightning from a distance
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Question. When an ash of war makes you "jump" do you get i-frames for your legs just like actual jumping? Can you for example avoid a ground attack that can be jumped by timing lion's claw?
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>>484917726
just git gud at attracting boss attention and not dying, then you're already helping
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>>484917773
yes
have you never fought some npc invader nigger who uses jump arts or you cheese all of them?
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>>484915343
What would Sir Gideon Ofnir the All Knowing have to say about this?
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>>484917923
Unironically, he'd be scandalized. Gideon seemed to be pretty invested in Miquella's fate, much like the players.
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>>484917564
>the hetero stuff is just as annoying desu
>homo faggot trying to deflect blame and responsibility onto straight people posting a couple of marika pictures per thread, if even that
>compared to tumblr niggers who flood the thread with homo faggotry repeatedly
who do you think you are fooling exactly? go back to your hole, degenerate
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I HATE SKIBIDILETS
I HATE SKIBIDILETS
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>Go to Danbooru to check more Radahn fanarts
>Is filled with gay porn of Miquella now
What have they done to my boy....
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>*SLAMS NOSE AGAINST MALENIA'S SEAT*
>*INHALES DEEPLY WHILE MOVING FROM ONE CORNER TO THE OTHER UNTIL ALL FOUR CORNERS ARE HIT*
>*SNORTS AND HUFFS THE MIDDLE*
Malenia...wife...
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>>484917404
>Raped Mohg (before entering the shadow lands showing us this is something he would already do before abandoning his love)
>Had to send Malenia to kill Radahn to force him into honoring his vow, which also implies the vow was not made consensually
>wanted to hypnorape the entire planet
>Radahn being a consensual participant in his plan to hypnorape the entire planet isn't in line with what we know about his character as an honorable and kind warrior
Radahn was raped. The fact he forced Radahn into being his consort because he had a big crush on him, when he had an equally powerful demigod that would've likely been willing (Malenia), shows Miquella was always evil before he abandoned his love too

Miquella is a serial incest rapist and the most evil character in the game
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Being able to change ashes of war was a mistake, if they were all bound it would give a reason to use a weaker weapon if it came with a better ash of war.
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>>484917480
Bro, in all seriousness, what were you expecting? Obviously the people who are resorting to summoning other players even tho they've got mimic tear are hopelessly bad at the game.
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>>484918132
you're in erg anon, this IS their hole
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>>484915420
>everyone was supposed to be disgusted at Gwyndolin
>everyone lusts after him instead
>everyone lusts after Kuro as well
>Lusting after Lothric
>Lusting after Miquella
NOOOOOO YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE TRANSPHOBIC!!!!
>Queen Marika is King-Consort Radagon and we brutally kill them both
teehee nothing wrong here :3

Really makes ya think
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??? wtf happened to my game
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>>484918209
My evil wife Miquella
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>>484918156
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>484917618
Its not even absorption it's damage output. Unless you have someone running bleed or DD two phantom fights are like punching a brick wall at low shit fragments. Especially for magic users
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>>484915872
Two Incantation ones. Charge one.
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>>484918209
You were supposed to post evidence, not just elaborate on the headcanon.
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>>484917923
>Ahh, I knew you -ACK!
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>>484916448
>Phase 1
>Radahn was glowing red, ready to fucking unleash everything, possibly even destroy the tower
>Miqqey comes out of the gate of divinity and almost instantly Radahn is covered in a golden aura, replacing his murderous red one
BU HE TOTALLY DIDN'T BRAINWASH HIM GUYS!
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I beat Midra. (10 scadu RL130 solo)
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>peak at patch notes after not playing for a while
>Fixed a bug that caused enemies to heal when the Maximum HP reduction gradual HP reduction effect applied by Black Knife Tiche wore off.
I knew I wasn't fucking crazy
That also means I really did beat Radahn pre-nerf on the last attempt I did prior to respecing, because that nigger regained health twice
>inb4 spirit ash
I was playing a pure INT mage, I needed a tank during phase 2.
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>>484918209
>Had to send Malenia to kill Radahn to force him into honoring his vow, which also implies the vow was not made consensually
Wanting a death by combat before becoming elden lord (consensually) would fit what we know about the Redmanes and their war autism. It's part of their Redmane culture.

[1170900070] I know it would pain old Jerren, but war has always suited General Radahn best.
[1170900080] And certainly far more than any honourable death.
[1170900090] Endless war to invigorate the soul.
[1170900100] As befits General Radahn, the great lion.
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Miquella is a child and is therefore unable to consent to any sexual activity - making Radahn the rapist. Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
>but Miquella isn’t actually a child !!!!1!
Tell it to the judge, ya freak
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>>484918549
It's not headcanon. Miquellas entire gimmick is that he can influence others against their will and doesn't hesitate to do so to achieve his goals. There is no evidence Radahn is the single exception other than muh yaoi fanfics

>>484918729
nice
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>>484918729
good job cutie
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>>484918840
I beat the whole DLC on patch 1.12
No calibration fix yet, everything was P U R E
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On model Marika is way hotter than off model Marika
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>>484918625
>Miquella became a Serosh-like aggro limiter for Radahn
why the fuck didn't I notice that!
Miquella self-sabotaged his own victory.
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>>484918481
yeah. didn't take me long to stop co-oping bosses in this. people being retards that don't level up their scat ruined it for me, not even including how bad at the game most of these fuckers are (because of course they are, why else would they be summoning help?).
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Third and final DLC playthrough: What are some fun DLC weapons for PvE?
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>defeat Senessax
>drops smithing stones
>no new incantantions availlable at the altar
?
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>>484918625
Miquella is only doing what Serosh did for Godfrey, prevent his from going apeshit
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>>484918963
Same, prior to the skibi adjust
get fucked casuals
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>>484918994
w-what boss anon?
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>>484917923
>one shot Gideon with Light of Miquella
>"I know...in my bones..."
>"A man cannot kill a god..."
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Somebody in here told me these are OP but for me they're just mediocre. What's the secret to them? (the weapon type in general)
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>>484919065
Ancient Dragons never give you a new communion spell because from hates fun
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Morning again
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>>484919004
I like using the Great Katana.
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>>484918854
Oh gee wiz, who am I gonna trust? Radahn's oldest pal, Jerren who probably knew the guy the moment Relanna shot him out of her womb or some inbred-looking wretch with rape-bait leg wear
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>>484919004
how did you manage to slog through a second playthrough?
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>>484918854
>>484917458
>>484917301
If any evidence is found supporting the idea Radahn requested a fight to the death as part of his vow I'd be open to this idea but as it stands it's just headcanon standing against a mountain of evidence about Miquella the roofie god
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>>484918965
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>>484919161
Shut up Ansbach
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>>484918994
We really need to retain our own scat during coop...
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>>484919094
it's literally right behind me in the pic, anon. use your eyes.
divine beast dancing lion. i fucking love that fight.
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>>484919094
It's clearly the lion in the background.
>>484919109
The AoW that made them good got nerfed, sorry Anon.
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>>484919065
>no fire lightning breath from the Peak Drake's
>No new branching Lightning Spear from Senessax
robbed
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>>484919127
You don't have to trust her on the specifics. What's she saying shows a general culture of war autism in the Redmanes.
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>>484919161
The horns are so fucking disgusting holy hell no wonder Marika flushed them down the toilet
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>>484918729
>blood grease
think again.
I beat Midra yesterday and I really struggled. I kept on getting chipped by frenzy flame and then he'd proc madness into some super move that left me with ~5% HP. I sucked through all of my flasks in order to beat him. Probably should have prepped for him by adjusting my build and/or crafting frenzy boluses but luckily he is one of the easiest and fairest bosses in the DLC.
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>>484919109
They were broken and capable of 3hko'ing Radahn but then they got nerfed
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>>484919221
Not Ansbach this time, lambkin.
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>>484915420
I find it quite based that Fromsoft made a quest about a mentally ill delusional tranny and the only thing you can do in the quest is to help him join 41% along with all xir supporters
Weird that chinks of all things are salty about the dlc and not libtroons due to all tranny and faggot genocide that's happening
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>>484919250
>>484919245
I can't see without my glasses anons
I'm a fucking blind man, and I usually play without them on
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>>484918495
yeah if you dont run status effect in co-op you're going to be doing not a lot of damage since the reason the host is summoning you is because they can't do damage themselves so you need to make up for two peoples worth of damage
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>>484918994
Elden babies hate exploring and want to be handheld throughout their playthroughs. They just want someone else to play the game for them.
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>>484918994
Status builds, builds with access to FTH buffs, and buffs with access to Greatshields are the only ones that are going to have fun cooping in the DLC.
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>>484919109
theyre not OP but theyre certainly above mediocre
>great range
>fast attacks
>attacks linger
>options to counter multiple elemental weaknesses with ease
>can stagger decently well (attacks cause separate multiple ticks of hits, similar to Wing of Astel ash of war which is a poise-breaking machine)
>easy frostbite application on demand from the frost perfume
very solid weapons even after the nerf to reddit sparks
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>>484918729
>>484919336
>Midra
>Fair moves you can react to without having to be fuckin psychic
>Cool design
>Badass theme ost
>Fun rewards
Was it really that hard to make a couple of others like that?
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>>484919185
>>484913227
Why is Radahn wearing a cape with lions protecting the haligtree if he was against it.
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>>484919004
sunflower
smithscript axe
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>>484919560
They did though.
Messmer, Bayle and Dancing Lion are all kino.
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>>484919121
I like the moveset but the DPS feels terrible once you swap to any other weapon. I used the Dragon Slayer Great Katana for my entire first run...
Until Radahn filtered me and I re-spec'ed into the bloody chicken wing and beat him first try with my new build.

>>484919152
Second playthrough was pretty easy. Dunno if I somehow got better in my sleep or if the balance patch made things way easier but I didn't have any problems on my second time through.
I played really sloppily against bosses like Giaus but I still kept on beating them first try
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>>484919478
>first playthrough
>literally speed through it, takes maybe 4 hours
>second playthrough
>spend about 10 hours just exploring the lands
people just don't know how to enjoy themselves
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From didn't nerf impenetrable thorns which means it's working as intented. This in turn means, I beat those bosses in a legitimate way.
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This whole “rape or no rape” game show is exactly why I will depart to live on a Moonbase with my wife. So many drama llamas in These Lands Between.
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Now that everything got nerfed, what's the annoying and meta PvP shit for invasions?
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>>484918048
Gideon is tracking Miquella because he sees Miquella as a genuine threat. His intention was always to try and kill Miquella (form a safe distance) once found. But when you locate his body incapacitated in the cocoon he instead tells you it's probably better to leave Miquella dormant and not risk an awakening. Gideon's purpose was always just to serve his Goddess and his Lord, and to kill anyone that got in their way.

If the DLC were better we would probably have new dialogue for Gideon about the shadowrealm and Miquella's plan. But From was adamant that they would not pay a red cent getting voicework for a character that may already be dead in the player's world by the time they start the DLC.
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>>484919109
dual wield same element perfumes and get all buffs, they still deal a shit ton of element
otherwise a decent offhand and delayed attacks screw input readers
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>>484919004
The death knight long axe
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>>484919336
surprised i got 3 (You)'s and still no one has ragged on me for using endure caestus, which is what i expected, lol. honestly didn't even really need the blood grease, i could just repeatedly do fully charged R2's to break posture and then crit over and over again. i didn't even get really OP and use crimson dagger talisman so i could get big heals over and over again from it. didn't even really need the damage from the crits, it was more useful just for the knock down so i could drink flasks.

my question is: how is poise in PvE? i really wanted to use a greatsword but idk if i can get that same sort of unstaggerability from it like endure gives. same reason i love barbaric roar builds. trading is fine but i need my fully charged R2's to actually land consistently. idk if great weapons or colossals can get enough poise to swing through anything, can they and what's the magic number if so?

i've heard it's something like over 50 and over 100 so i might reload my pre-midra save (i still have the post-midra save as well just in case) and beat it again with just a 2H GS. just want to see if i can actually poise through midra's shit.
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>>484919478
these "people" dont actually enjoy or want to play the game
they just want to be able to say they beat elden souls which is this totally hard as heck game dude yeah im pretty cool how did you know
so they just run from point A to B in a straight line, get their ass handed to them, complain about how bullshit it all is and then keep summoning until someone kills the boss for them
then they repeat this until they finish the game, they use this as bragging rights and drop the game never to play it again
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>>484919675
>Moonbase
John Madden
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>>484919687
I mean it makes sense, it's been so long that people have stored up tons of high level end game characters and save back ups that trying to do the song and dance for those small details might not have been worth it.
Sucks but I think From just wanted to get the DLC over with as fast as possible and lots of the unused content was already made and polished so no extra work was required.
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>>484919372
Oh, it's the most degenerate one.
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>>484919630
>Messmer
More like Meh smear
>Bayle
The dead boring. Igon carries that fight.
>Dancing Lion
Got reused lmao
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Now that the dust has settled, can we agree blinkbolt is annoying as all fuck
Why does this thing need to give you near-instant iframes?
Even Swift Slash leaves you vulnerable while you're doing it, but you can't interact with blinkbolt spam at all until they run out of stamina or FP
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>>484919683
Still probably chicken leg
Occult infusion with 60 ARC gives an A in Arcane
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>>484919987
>pvp
literally nobody cares
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>>484919987
This the latest abusable ash?>>484920051
Clearly people do
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>>484919971
>More like Meh smear
Not an argument
>The dead boring. Igon carries that fight.
Imagine summoning, YDBTG
>Got reused lmao
So?
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>>484919931
Those are the same people that also call others elitists if they think that sitting in a corner and waiting for the summon to solo bosses is shitter behavior.
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>>484919560
Midra, Dancing Lion, Messmer.

IMO the worst boss is Bayle:
>completely optional, no incentive to fight him
>shit rewards (two spells that are far worse than Greyoll's Roar/Dragonmaw)
>camera freaks out when trying to track him
>is as big as Midir yet has a move where he goes from one side of the arena and back in 2 seconds for a tail spin
>second phase is visual diarrhea with all the magma and lightning everywhere
But LE HECKIN' AHAB MAN XDDDD!

>>484919825
>how is poise in PvE?
Very good when paired with heavier weapons. It allows you to poise-trade with bosses and be more aggressive.
Heavy poise with a straightsword seems underwhelming
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I think I sort of get the lore... So the Hornsent are people who worship the crucible/horn thing, like people used to before the tree showed up, and Messmer lead a crusade to purge the horn worshippers?
Meanwhile the Hornsent were stuffing people into jars for some reason?
I really don't get it.
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You guys should really try the seamless coop invasion scene, invading coopers and following them around is pretty cool.
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>>484919987
The game is designed around PvE, not your tranny minigames

cope and seethe
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>>484920095
>Not summoning Igon
Massive fag.
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>>484920085
you and your discord are not people or matter in any way
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>HERP DERP! LET ME JUST FARM IN 2-3 LOCATIONS, PICK/KILL SHIT UP, THEN REST AT GRACE, RISE & REPEAT
Why on Earth did they choose to add crafting and farming to get consumables? There's no reason to just cheat in all consumables.
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>>484919602
Best evidence so far but it also looks like it could just be the erdtree. Him taking Godfrey's iconography when he was elden lord would extend to that
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>>484920246
>I think I sort of get the lore
>...
>I really don't get it
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>>484920265
>seamless coop invasion
That's a thing now?
Is the invasion system opt-in?
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Carian duelist build coming along nicely. Might need more endurance and armour
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>>484920425
why is your weapon in your off hand and your staff in your main hand?
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>finally get a cool ass falx
>it isn't a light greatsword
>you're forced to duel wield it
FOR WHAT FUCKING PURPOSE
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dancing lion is godrick 2
>first area you're pushed to explore
>storm theme
>gets reused in some random section of a later area
>is actually optional but nobody realizes it until after their first playthrough
>i think he's cool
they even both get followed up by an equally optional carian mage
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Thought I would like Freya, but her stupid fangirl bullshit that disregards Radahn's and Jerren's commitment to a honorable death made me greatly dislike her.
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>>484920229
>completely optional, no incentive to fight him
The incentive is that he is the best boss in the DLC and the fight itself is the reward. You have the wrong mindset.
>camera freaks out when trying to track him
Only when you're being a dumbass and trying to sit under him.
>is as big as Midir yet has a move where he goes from one side of the arena and back in 2 seconds for a tail spin
Why are you complaining about such a heavily telegraphed attack, you don't actually ever get hit by this right?
>second phase is visual diarrhea with all the magma and lightning everywhere
None of that is even remotely threatening if you're dodging in the right directions, you can just forget it exists and it doesn't clutter the screen at all.
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Did they already fix the cheat table so you don't get banned if you cheat in swift slash?
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>>484920507
Scholar's shield doesnt work the other way around. I know it's retarded. maybe that's what the carian sorcery sword is actually good for?
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>>484919825
I use the colossal GS with raptor and it's pretty fun. Poise during attacks I generally enough to eat 1 swing but it's not endure tier unless you use an AOW like lion's claw. One of the benefits of 2h a colossal is you get to use guarding and guard countering to some degree which does major poise damage, especially when combined with the instaguard tear.

>poise through midras shit
You can use a charged heavy through 1 move at 51+ poise and 2 moves at over 100
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>>484919327
>The horns are so fucking disgusting
Are you horn-phobic?
Horns make everyone horny.
Horns are peak sexy.
All cool kids have horns.
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>>484918965
You think Radahn is bad, dont you?
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>>484920729
I'm horny
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>>484920576
But isn't the description of the great jar an account of someone who is going to be put in the jar, and prays to become a saint? Were the Hornsent putting their own people into these things as well?
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>>484920702
alright but why equip the thrusting shield at all?
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>>484920393
it's opt-in but it seems a lot of people don't bother to change the setting in the .ini file to opt-out
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Is swift slash a good move to use to dodge Waterfowl Dance?
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i immediately disregard anyone complaining about bosses as a shitter if they dont attach gameplay of them fighting said boss to prove otherwise
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>>484919987
I'm getting sick of all the i-frame dash aow they shoved into this dlc. No one wanted this trash
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>>484920801
I thought that was obvious from the ghosts, the miko are just the core
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>>484920829
To attack with it without using FP.
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>>484920829
why not?
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>holy damage buffs STILL bugged in pvp
What a joke
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Man reds have it tough... I now understand why that schizo red keeps posting his webms of the same things over and over again. It's rough out here for them.
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>>484919987
blinkbolt doesnt give you near instant iframes
what
its got a notable wind-up before unlike dodging
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>>484920927
but you can equip the same ashes on a regular shield
>>484920945
thrusting shield is a weapon, not a shield, if you put it in the off hand it's pretty much useless
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>>484920712
>You can use a charged heavy through 1 move at 51+ poise and 2 moves at over 100

ahhhh, this is what i was looking for, thanks. what about big shit? like i assume when i get to something like radahn i'm not gonna be able to poise through shit, maybe 1 move at 100, would that be correct? i.e. can i just poise like that through midra because he's using a pointy stick rather than a giant heavy sword? or something like golden hippo or dancing lion, big dick attacks. also, how much does it matter using a GS vs. an UGS?
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>>484920594
she's dumb as shit and doesn't understand honor. if that's how the redmanes are, then they're pathetic.

ansbach has honor.
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>>484920996
Those mentally ill freaks deserve all the suffering they get, and I enjoy observing it.
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>>484920246
>Land of Shadow = sealed land originally in the center of the Lands Between
>Crucible exists and is very strong => lots of people and animals have horns, people called Hornsent exist and are really into the Crucible
>Hornsent have lots of wacky religious beliefs, one of them includes slicing people up and putting them into jars
>Marika comes from a people who the Hornsent do this to
>Marika somehow comes into contact with the Greater Will/Two Fingers/Mother of Fingers and ascends to Godhood, uses the gate at the top of Enir Elim
>*vague time of coexistence, Erdtree is created/grown, etc.*
>Marika sends Messmer and his soldiers on a religious crusade against the Hornsent/Crucible, killing almost everyone and razing their settlements, they create churches, castles, forts, and keeps in the realm of shadow
>Marika somehow seals off the Land of Shadow, abandoning Messmer and his soldiers in the new sealed realm
That's my basic take on it. You've got some side stories in the DLC too like Bayle/Placidusax/Dragon Communion and the Frenzy Flame but they don't fold back into the main story/lore in a significant way imo
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>>484921051
>why not just use a normal shield as a weapon?
you realize why thrusting swords exist, yes?
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>>484920380
Doesn't the Erdtree have more of a celtic cross pattern though
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>>484920246
The Hornsent MADE the crucible.
The Crucible is a massive collection of corpses. The Hornsent hunt down and exterminate non-Hornsent and stuff their remains into jars to stew them into indistinct masses of meat-goo.
Then they heap that meat-goo all in one place.
Enir Ilim isn't just a 'tower' it's a giant pile of corpses encased in stone. The pillars that hang down from the spiral staircrase are open at the bottom and you can look up and see the inside is literally just meat.

Since all life in the Lands Between was created from the Greater Will's initial act of creation, they all carry a tiny spark of divinity. The Hornsent jar people, to harvest that life energy, heaping it all in one places so it merges and amalgamates into a great deific fount of life, which they then draw upon for their magic and rituals. This is why the crucible's defining feature is mixing aspects of all different animals together.

Marika's people were one of the many tribes hunted to extinction by the Hornsent, and the fingers gave her the opportunity for vengeance. She took the tower by force and claimed the power of the Crucible to become a Goddess, then sealed them and their whole culture away in shadow. The Hornsent felt that they were the victims, and cursed Marika in vengeance, causing the birth of the Omen. Then she retaliated by sending Messmer with an army to purge the Hornsent by fire and his forces have been occupying the Shadowrealm ever since keeping the Hornsent down.
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>>484921051
>but you can equip the same ashes on a regular shield
other shields don't give you guard frames on attack arts
plus nobody stops you from 2handing it
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>>484912221
>he doesn't have any undodgeable attacks
he does if your frames drop lmao
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>>484920996
It is, I used to be a keen invader in the older games and would use cosplay builds or thematic builds and try to make it fun for both parties.
Now you can only invade if you're outnumbered and because of how the systems work if you're invading its because the host and his password buddies want you there and are waiting for you.
Invading is now basically needing super sweaty builds to possibly stand a chance, boss challenged the boss sent home or the very rare clueless host and appropriate levelled phantom genuinely playing through the level.
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>>484918965
She's still a plump sex goddess either way
Sometimes I think you "on-model" faggots are just gay retards or femcels who have no assets and seethe endlessly at depictions of beautiful women
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>>484921196
The Crucible is older than that anon.
The ancient bird warriors were using incantations that come from the Crucible before it was even called the Crucible.
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>>484920576
WHERE ARE THE HINTERLANDS SHAMAN GIRLS, LINTAHLO
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>>484920801
The Hornsent don't put their own in the jar, they put others in.
Also Saint is a very deliberate word choice here. Saints are canonized after death, it's part of the definition. When they talk about the people in the jars becoming saints, they're saying that they are being killed so that their remains will become deified. Hence why one of the ghosts pleads to be spared the jarring because they'll "become a living saint" instead.
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>>484921051
>if you put it in the off hand it's pretty much useless
oh my god he's genuinely retarded
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>>484921267
>No no, it isn't your fault that you got hit by that attack. It must be some other power... like the game? Yes, that's it. The game running at low FPS caused you to get hit by that attack. Never mind that your bad PC is what is causing that, it must be the games fault. This will work.
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>kill the lord of frenzy
>there is still frenzy
>kill the saint of rot
>there is still rot
huh?
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>>484920095
>Not summoning Igon
FUCKING FAGGOT
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>>484921379
>the hornsent bird warriors predate the hornsent
Oooooookay bud
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>>484921552
I dunno what the Saint of Rot even is.
>random centipede lady who is a mandatory boss, has no buildup or payoff, is literally just a mandatory roadbump between Messmer and Radahn
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>>484921552
>kill elden lord
>I'm elden lord

HUH????????????
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Any Ansbach's bow droppers on PC? My autism doesn't allow me to cheat it in
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>>484921552
I thought those “lords” were just exceptionally powerful adherents of those outer gods, but not the outer gods themselves. You would have to kill the actual outer god to completely eliminate their influence. Somebody please tell me if I’m retarded.
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how many different bosses have their own waterfowl dance in DLC
and how many have multiple waterfowl dances

radahn is the obvious offender with like 5 different waterfowl dances and that's why he gets all the hate, but I've noticed its a trend in pretty much all of them isn't it
rellana is an offender
besides his janky hitbox charge attacks (two of them), commander gaius has a waterfowl dance too
putrescent knight does a waterfowl dance with his dismount
death knights love their waterfowl dance
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Speaking of shamans.
Does jarring people even work?
It obviously does something since it fuses people into a blob monster but you never see a finished "living saint".
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>>484921773
I've got a +11 I'd be willing to drop.
Sign in front of Messmer's arena in shadow keep
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>>484921552
Frenzy is an outer god, the 'lord' of frenzy is just a conduit for it to come through to the Lands Between. But as we've seen, there have been several lords in the past

Rot is also an outer god. Romina is just some insane cultist that embraced the rot because they were assmad over Messmer's purge and let it transform them into a horrible monster. She's not even the Saint of Rot, she's the "saint of the Bud." Flowerbuds that never bloomed were the symbol of her church and all of them were destroyed by the purge, except for one bud she managed to save that she made her weapon out of.
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>>484921859
>you never see a finished "living saint".
because it's a lie
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>>484921698
it's weird that she isn't in the main rot area either
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>>484912492
>Cringe or kino?
Kino.
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>>484921051
>but you can equip the same ashes on a regular shield
Even glintblade phalanx?
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Can you avoid ground attacks with dragon hunter's katana?
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>>484921859
The idea is that Shamans are a main ingredient because they have malleable flesh, easily integrated with others.
Everytime you see a Living Saint, that's the end result. A pitiful existence, really
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>>484921774
you are correct
>>484921859
alexander was a saint
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>>484921859
The Tower itself is the finished project. The Dancing Lion, as well as the Lion and Bird Horned Warriors are proof that jarring works, because they're invoking the divine power collected into the tower from the jars.
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Are Numens and shamans the same thing? Why the two different names?
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>>484922092
Yes. Any anime move that puts you airborne lifts your hitbox so you can just fly over ground explosions.
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>>484921196
Mostly correct but the hornsent didn't create the crucible they just worshiped it in a different way. Also I'm not sure they're responsible for the omen. Oh and Mesmer isn't occupying the land he's trapped there too. His mom left him there because she was scared of the snake in his head
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>>484922229
well when you jump your leg hitboxes actually get invincibility frames, dunno if anime moves do that too.
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>>484922225
Shamans are a subset of Numens. These are just the ones who stayed at the Shaman Village, others went for the eternal cities instead.
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>>484921168
It also has a lot of different depictions on various banners, stone engravings and such
There's so much variability in the way it's depicted that Radahn's cape could plausibly depict one or the other, hell the tree sentinel armor's cape has an unambiguously coiled tree on it despite the fact that they are each and all explicitly guardians of the Erdtree
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>>484922247
>Mostly correct but the hornsent didn't create the crucible
They literally built Enir-Ilim out of jar meat. The Crucible is their sin.
>Also I'm not sure they're responsible for the omen.
[1020500000] A curse upon thee, rotten miscreant.
[1020500010] A curse upon the strumpet's progeny, upon Marika's children each and all.
[1020500020] The curse of the omen shall strike thee down...
--Empyrean Grandam
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>>484921898
>Sign in front of Messmer's arena in shadow keep
if it's a yellow sign, i won't be able to see it since i killed the boss already. i think maybe red signs are visible?

i'm setting my password as erg

also let me know if there is something you might need to drop
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>>484921168
It's not an exact match with either insignia, it looks closer to the haligtrees but either way he's not actually using their heraldry, it's his own that represents one of them. Godfreys lion iconography plus the golden armor makes me think it's the erdtree. I could see it being the haligtree and representative of his vow but taking all context into account I still think Miquella is guilty
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>>484922225
"Shamans" was a very poor translation, since it doesn't make clear that 1. It's a title, and 2. It's a female exclusive one.
Shamans are all Numen, but not all Numen are Shamans.
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>>484922247
>snake in his head
Is it a different serpent-related-entity than the one that ate Rykard? Or are they connected?
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Is or isn't the GW just another Outer God?
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>>484921395
not in colour. Also there is a more up to date list of sigils which I will post after
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>>484922465
Totally separate
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>>484918132
True and real, fuck the fags. Miquella is stinky, as in, he has a male body odor that gets pronounced during coitus.
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>>484922401
>slaughter a culture
>get slaughtered in turn
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE VILE STRUMPET
fucking jews I swear
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>women in the lands between after I get my hands on the Elden Ring.
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>>484922587
Makes sense, thanks. I would advise all demigods to avoid doing business with snakes or people who are snake-like
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Okay here's a lore question for you.
Marika's Hammer description claims it's a Numen weapon forged outside of the Lands Between.
But if Marika was born and raised in the Shaman Village in the heart of the Lands Between, and the shaman were relatively defenseless (enough so that the Hornsent could abduct them all without the village showing signs of struggle), then when and how did she or her people forge a weapon so sturdy and powerful it could shatter the Elden Ring OUTSIDE the Lands Between and then smuggle it in?

When was the Hammer actually forged and brought to the Lands Between? Why is it the only Numen weapon in the Lands Between?
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>>484921316
>Sometimes I think you "on-model" faggots are just gay retards or femcels who have no assets and seethe endlessly at depictions of beautiful women
They 100% are. A surefire way to recognize a gay homo is to search for certain phrases in their posts, such as:
>off-model garbage
>tits too big
>her tits should be smaller
>would be perfect if she were flat
or
>hope she has a penis, I want to suck it
They are unironic pedos, play Gayshit Cumpact, or are unironic pedos who play Gayshit Cumpact.
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Gideon, no!
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>>484922489
No, he is the Big G of the setting.
Outer Gods are earthly spirits that only effect Lands Between.
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>>484922718
Fuck, I can do that? Being Elden Lord is gonna be dope.
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>>484922810
>Outer Gods are only inner
This is the most extreme of lorelet possible. It's right up there with "kami" in terms of blithely disregarding the text in favour of baseless headcanon
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>>484922764
We don't know what happened between the Shaman Village getting sacked, and when she and Godfrey led a barbarian army to fuck everyone's shit.
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>>484922535
>>484922675
very helpful thank you
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>>484912221
Are there still people who haven't beaten Homo Radahn yet? Just grab an Antspur Rapier, infuse it with either frostbite, bleed or poison, equip a Fingerprint+25 with greatshield talisman, pearlshield talisman, double turtle head talisman and spear talisman.
If you want to go even easier, put Vow of the Indomitable on your Antspur and No Skill on your shield so that you can dodge his grabs or his second phase attacks with zero effort.
Optional: Bring shield grease to reduce chip even further.
Shieldpoke every melee attack except for the last hit of a combo. Drop your block and by the time he starts his next combo, you should be back at like 90 percent stamina already.
When the second phase starts, run towards him and jump at the last moment to avoid the Miquella attack.
Then summon Tiche or Dungeater or Mimic Tear or whoever.
Continue shieldpoking until you win.
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>>484920846
The weird part is the people complaining have to set a password in the file anyways, but can't be bothered to swap the 1 to a 0. It's fucking bizarre reading the shit people are posting about it.
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>>484920095
>>>>not summoning Igon
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>>484922783
>not liking shit art with baloon tits makes you a pedo
coombrains completely lost it
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>>484921898
>>484922437
ok nvm this game is just retarded and doesn't let you summon red signs if the area boss is dead

if you're still up to it, let me know if there's an area with a boss you haven't killed and i can put my yellow sign down there
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>>484922608
I am warning you right now, avatarfagging as a hot anime mommy will send you down a dark path. It never ends well, and always ends in some discord server drama that spreads to the rest of the general.
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>procrastinating on studying for my masters
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/elden-ring-is-the-limit-for-from-software-project-scale-says-miyazaki-multiple-smaller-games-may-be-the-next-stage
Saw this headline and it makes me excited for the future of From games. Hopefully we will get multiple DS3 sized games instead of a single huge Elden Ring sized game. I thought that the Lands Between was fine but going back after doing the Land of Shadow (smaller, more content dense, more inter-connectivity, more verticality and variety, etc.) it feels like a chore to run through rolling hills going between the relatively few points of interest.
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>>484922978
Shinto and Buddhist themes and concepts are in this game, but please pretend that GRRM making some script that From mostly ignored denies it.
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>>484920275
>>484921642
>>484923082
>cheating so you can her le screaming reddit man
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is there a working mohg cheese
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>>484922489
The GW is an Outer God, but also the greatest of the Outer Gods. It's the equivalent to Azathoth from the Cthulhu mythos, which is both Outer God itself and the undisputed apex of the pantheon of Outer Gods.
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Would Relanna's really be too strong with a block l1? I just can't fathom why they gave it a straight sword moveset.
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>>484922535
Is this datamined?
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Is this a mandatory horse fight battle? Because rolling against this fag sucks
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>>484923308
GW is revealed to be the creator deity of Elden Ring AND interact[ed] with people through Metyr. It's not Azathoth
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>>484923389
you are not forced to use garbage horse in battle anywhere
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>>484923278
>Reddit Man
>Summon him to get both his set and if you dateraped the dragon lady she'll give you her spell as well
He's a hard requirement you fucking retard
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>>484921316
Except femcels are offmodelfags too since they don't depict Messmer as a deformed hunchback.
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Wow, Vaati's new video is a total joke.
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>>484921395
Wait, Blackflame looks kinda like... a fingerprint? Armor of Night?
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>>484923230
It should be pretty obvious. Elden Ring was a prestige game. Despite the huge amount of money it made, the development was so cumbersome and costly that Fromsoft's net revenue from it was poor--it just cost them too much to make a game as big as Elden Ring.

Now that their development has expanded so much, it makes more sense to divide their labour pool into smaller, more specialized teams and work on several small projects in tandem which have better profit margins than one colossal project
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>>484923330
It's Rellana, get it right.
Why? Because it's a straight sword, duh.
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>>484922783
>>484923092
Right, I completely forgot another one:
>coombrain
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>>484923389
Some attacks are easier to run away from on Torrent but most of the time I prefer normal dodge rolls, especially sticking to his side/back and punishing the hind leg kick attack.
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>>484918729
I beat Midra. (but for real this time)

thanks for the tips on poise, bros. i'd really prefer to be able to beat the whole game with my cosplay but i was struggling before. was trying to do guard counters before but honestly feel like fully charged R2's are really the way to go in this game.
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>>484923278
>cheating
It’s not one of the hard bosses anyway. I’d rather hear Igon’s voice lines because they’re funny. If I need to “prove myself” I’ll just beat the harder bosses solo.
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>>484922783
The fact that the first response to this post was a seething homo with the same one bot-level "coombrain" reply is hilarious to me.

Sometimes you dont even need to prove something. They just do it themselves.
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>>484923543
Who is the superior loreturber?
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>>484923389
you have to choose between stripping to light rolls to make it even possible to avoid his charge / stab charge attacks, or to simply strap on winged tear + full moores set and tank through everything because you know you're going to get hit no matter what you do

I recommend the latter, cheesed this boss hard by just outtanking him
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>>484922810
So how can we meaningfully defy it by overthrowing the Order or burning everything to ash?
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>>484921526
>game runs fine
>dlc update makes game run not fine
you can act like a spaz, it's still not an impossible fight by any means but if you get frame drops (you know, the #1 complaint about the DLC) you're going to be taking unavoidable hits
it is what it is
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>>484922401
The crucible existed before the tower
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>>484923571
Armour of Night has a finger motif because the Fingers were committing mass child abuse to produce a private army of mindbroken supersoldier assassins they could use as enforcers. Only, it backfired.
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>>484923389
sekiro tear with a shield + counters made this fight fairly trivial, just run away from the phase 2 transition
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>>484922229
erm, i just tried it and it 100% doesnt work.
timing was perfect too
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>>484923769
Underground? Where the Nox were vanished for defying the Fingers? Who also venerate capital-n-Night?
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>>484923738
There is absolutely no text in the game that even remotely suggests this.
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>>484923716
It’s seems that the direct influence of the GW left The Lands Between a long time ago. Even the fingers have no connection. The GW was the creator but it’s not in the way anymore.

Or maybe not. This lore is confusing dawg
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>>484923692
Honestly I think Miyazaki intentionally fucked with loretubers with the DLC. The DLC is so spoonfeedy with it's lore that they don't have a lot of wiggleroom, and the things they will be able to 'figure out' are going to be either really obvious to the point of it being silly to point out, or so manufactured that it's no more than headcanon. The latter of which has still mostly been true up to this point anyway, but it will be VERY apparent how far they're reaching to a much greater number of people.
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>>484923881
>ground explosions
Anon that’s a regular explosion
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Messmer is not depressed he's distracted
>He has a woman who loves him (Renalla)
>He has achievements (killed most of the hornsents)
>Friends who care about him (Black and Fire Knights)
>Pets happy to see him (Snakes)
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>>484923881
>a giant explosive orb
>ERM ACKSHULLY IT DOESNT WORK
Wooooooow
literal mouth breather here
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>>484916468
And then they did it again on the Manus Metyr fight, making you wait until the host has started the fight and then giving you a loading screen before you can join in.
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>>484912221
>Objective flaws in Radahn's design
1. Radahn's afterimage attacks have no hurtbox and he can do these grounded so some punishes to attacks get "eaten" by his after image strikes turning off his hurtbox frame 0 as he charges them.
2. Radahn's love of long anime combos can lead to periods of 20 or more seconds where he is only vulnerable for a tiny amount of time, removing interactivity and forcing you to play a damage avoidance minigame where the dilemma on where to push aggression is completely ignored
3.The boss has no answer to greatshield strats.
4. The boss has numerous one-shot attacks in his arsenal which can kill even with 60 Vig + 20 Skibidi + defensive talismans thanks to multi-hit protections not being properly enabled. His grounded afterimage attack can oneshot you ect.
5. The boss has attacks that are undodgable outside of elevation differences or hyperspecific setups. His cross slash has challenge runners either take extra iframe talismans or spend the entire fight strafing hard just to have a chance at avoiding it.
6. Visual disaster - A combination of Miquella's hair, giant bright white beams and the effect on his afterimages make parsing what goes on in the fight almost impossible.
7. Inconsistent effects - the ground crumble effect used on his stomp and pulling his weapon out of the ground are the same and usually indicate grounded attacks but you can jump the stomp while not being able to do so for the weapon pull.
8. Height jank with the uneven arena is rife which causes unintended interactions and random whiffs
9. Uneven moveset. Some moves can oneshot you and have no hurtbox while others like Miquella's Light, his grab or his tornado gravity gapcloser are easy to avoid and have gigantic punish windows which both encourages AI abuse and makes winning feel overly dependent on 'lucky patterns'. If Radahn spammed the 1-2-cross slash the fight is artificially much harder than one where he spams grabs.
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>>484924212
>replying to schizo ritualpost spammer
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The fuck were they thinking with this thing? The greathammer is better than the spear of all things for picking enemies off from a distance, and the axe, while having just as bad range, has it's versatile jumping heavy that allows you to be evasive and offensive at the same time. The spear doesn't excel at anything, not even the ability to throw it from horseback is useful because of the dismal range.
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>>484924250
>replying to copypasta
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>>484923723
>frame drops (you know, the #1 complaint about the DLC)
turn off rt and get a real fucking pc
i don't get frame drops
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>>484923884
Yes. Pay attention to Jolan's dialogue.
The Fingers would raise children underground in pitch black from birth and train them into hardened soldiers.
When these soldiers were shown the night sky by Carians, they realized the lightless sky the Fingers had shown them was a lie, and turned on them. The two in the DLC are loyal to mommy man now, because he promises them the wonder of a starry night.
The Nox are basically feral swordhands. They rebelled against the fingers and created their own starry sky underground. This is why Eternal Darkness represents "despair" for them. Their "treason" was defying their finger masters.
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>>484924250
That's what you just did, the follow up post with the last 5 points will come as soon as his cooldowns over
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>>484924108
>loading screen
I get like 3 frames of black screen then show up in the boss fight starts. Meter takes longer to load in for me than getting to her boss room
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Why does no one mention this weapon? It fucking slaps. The WA does a ton of damage and it scales so well with DEX.

The only bad thing is that it requires 21 intelligence for some reason.
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>>484923635
is there a difference in poise with guard counters vs. r2s? i always feel like i get knocked out of guard counters easily, idk.
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>>484924250
newfag detected
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>>484924309
>>484924340
>>484924379
IT'S SO EASY
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>>484924212

10. His grab gives you so much free time that it's arguably better to trade and get hit by it in a lot of cases as Radahn just stands there post grab and you get a full stamina refill. You should NEVER want to get hit by an attack.
11. Getting into Phase 2 with a crit doesn't teleport you to Radahn which breaks the intended flow of the fight.
12. Boss is very easy to parry cheese or Deflectcheese. The final boss shouldn't be so weak to defensive strategies, he shouldn't completely crumble the moment the player steps outside of rolling.
13. Some defensive strategies are framerate dependent, on a fight that directly attacks your FPS. Running away post gravity suck is perfect if you get a solid framerate but any dips and you die instantly.
14. Poor performance on a lot of his moves in general.
15. Very poor looking animations on a lot of his moves, specifically the spinning gravity gapcloser and Miquella's T-pose
16. Unlike good fights (Gael) Radahn has very few audio cues to denote specific combos, which would have been a great way to make up for the visual mess.
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>>484924412
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>>484924004
>>484924098
yes you can totally jump it, ive done it myself multiple times.

https://youtu.be/Ma9jdqxIwOk?t=297 here a timestamp. Damn i thought 4chan guys are experts, guess i was wrong.

>>484924098
my dude you really think visuals match what happens in the game?
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>>484913031
I liked when Patches said “a fine Elden Ring to you,” though
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>>484923723
>He's trying to say that you have a bad PC. He's trying to say that it's YOUR fault and not the games fault for having bad frame rate. Call him a fucking spaz and make sure he knows that the moves are unavoidable. The problem isn't your shitty PC it's that this spaz is spazzing out.
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>>484924412
>i was only pretending to be retarded
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>>484923121
Duly noted, I'll keep that in mind while I'm on the incline bench in the gym and I get my beard stuck between the bar and my greasy, hairy chest.
"UwU Nyaa~" and all that.
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>>484923932
I thought the Crucible was Placidusax's doing since all the beastman gear references it
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>>484924412
>I was just pretending to be retarded
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>>484924370
IIRC guard counters have the highest poise damage in the game, followed by a tie between jumping heavies and fully charged heavies.
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>>484924412
>I have been pretending to be retarded
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>>484923707
Wait? His charges and lance attacks are fucked? I knew that i was not a shitter
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>>484922463
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Shadow+of+the+Erdtree+Map
I'm sure you can figure something out from that.
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the dlc is so fucking small actually if you ignore the finger ruins, cerulean coast, dragon peak and hinterlands (all empty areas with content outside of their end boss)
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God damn, St Trina is looking frisky today.

https://img10.reactor.cc/pics/post/MuHut-artist-DS-Ero-Dark-Souls-8506435.gif
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>>484923932
The crucible is a vortex of all life not just people. Furthermore it's never stated that they worship the tower itself just the crucible. The crucible gave them thier horns and they view it as holy, they began stuffing the non horned into jars because they believed they were sinners and it would forcibly add them too it. Making them "saints" of the crucible. You can argue this strengthened the crucible but everything still points to it existing beforehand.
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>>484924265
the smithscript weapons aren't remotely balanced

the dagger and claws of night are completely broken because they get a busted weapon art, not to mention way too much damage on multihit multistatus attacks
the discus hurl shield is oppressively spammable, having high arc homing with incredibly fast and unpunishable animation that still has a melee hitbox yet does good damage
meanwhile the axe/hammer/spear/cirque are all mediocre garbage weapon with low stats and low range. Why does scattershot throw cover the entire inside of rooms in all directions, hit headshots, have long range and a ridiculously wide arc yet do insanely high damage with no dropoff and two-shot status, but the throw on smithscript weapons has short range and huge dropoff?

but then you get the golem fists
holy fuck the golem fists
what were they thinking
did they put them in the game just as a joke, to punish collectors who will actually farm the 0.5% droprate
57 stamina to perform an R2 attack that deals 40% of the damage of an R1, on a weapon with higher stamina, lower poise, lower damage, no status compared to star fists. lmao.
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>>484924539
Not a single piece of beastman gear references the crucible, anon.
It was fanon for a long time that the messy proto-Elden Ring rune in Farum Azula was depicting the Crucible but there was never any basis for that. People just speculated because Farum Azula's lore is confusing as fuck and there's no item descriptions there that actually help explain anything.
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>>484924567
no i mean your own poise, as in not getting knocked out of the attack mid-animation. maybe i'm just retarded tho idk. or i need the bullgoat talisman maybe. idk i'll have to experiment with it i guess. i know they're very powerful on the offensive side but that doesn't matter if i get staggered when trying to do them.
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>>484924627
>bros if you ignore the content there’s no content
No shit.
>but they’re empty
Would you rather have 20 different copy paste catacombs to bloat it out?
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>>484924660
Hey! I know this guy, he makes the sexy monster girls
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>get summoned by host who just stands by the grace for some reason
>invader appears
>fight them off and another appears right after the first
>more keep coming as soon as we kill them
>realize host wants a gank squad
>abandon him as he's fighting 2 invaders and run through the level clearing stuff instead
>get sent home
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>>484924612
They're fucked in two ways. The hitbox is so enormous and persistent that it will rollcatch you even if you roll through it or to the side because its covering like 2x his body size
The charges also make him effectively invulnerable, its like he's doing a shield crash on you with infinite stamina and 2-shot damage
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>>484913537
Patch notes said RTX may have been turned on without the user doing it. Check that.
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>>484924819
0,001 Elden Coins have been deposited in your Lands Between account, fromcattle
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>>484924819
Unironically yes catacombs are actually pretty fun, they did a good job with them. Imps are cool.
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>>484924737
The daggers are weak a shit. The WA shotguns for as much damage as a fucking R1. They're super weak. The Claw version of the WA is strong because the claws have real AR, so it actually does damage when it hits, but the daggers are so fucking weak.
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>>484924870
>summoned for tank squad
>kms with seppuku
>guy messages me
>"bro you were buffed enough, you didn't need to do that"
mouth breathers, the lot of them
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>>484924870
>host who just stands by the grace for some reason
>host wants a gank squad

let me guess: X dudes standing in an open field? making this shit open world was truly a mistake, especially if they weren't going to fill it full of deadly shit. it's just so empty that's the problem.
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>>484924993
they also have almost no status buildup when infused
garbage weapon
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whose fucking idea was this
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Bros... why haven't they fixed LGS
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Would you train in Radahn’s gym?
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Does any projectile spell do stance damage anymore? Or did they nerf all of it?. Phalanx does fucking nothing now, and rock sling takes an entire FP bar of full hits to get off one stance break.
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>>484925139
What is there to fix? Are you one of the faggots who cry about it not having a billion poisedamage?
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>>484925050
>leave blue summon on all the time
>whenever i get summoned i run to the nearest cliff and jump off, gifting up to 4 free flasks to the invader

Fuck 'em.
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>>484925173
damn that horse ass tho
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>>484924993
okay well the claws and shield are busted then
I haven't tested daggers again post-nerf so maybe you're right
but don't the daggers still shotgun bleed status with the WA?
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>>484925173
Good work, anon.
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>>484924536
>Thinks I mean he's going to start wearing a skirt
I tried. Dark times are ahead for /erg/.
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>>484924757
I guess it's just because all the base game items relating to the ancient dragons and beastmen mention "the time/era before the Edrtree" which is when the base game says the Crucible was around
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>>484925228
By not having a billion poise damage you mean them having less poise damage than straight swords and rapiers lmao?
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Is 12 enough skadoodle levels for Radahn?
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>>484925080
nah it was one of the linear areas so invaders couldnt just run off
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>>484925282
W-what is going to happen to me then?
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>>484925135
This is the new scarlet rot spam in co-op.
>be me
>be in melee with boss
>suddenly unable to see fucking anything because this shit is covering the whole screen
>get annoyed and sit back and wait for the boss to smash the hosts head into a bloody pulp
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>>484925348
17 min
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>>484925265
I did not make this art. I scooped it from Danbooru. The artist’s name is: @foreignbread
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>>484916448
Radahn has cut lines for his boss fight, but they are kind of boring so i see why the cut it
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>>484925135
I can’t believe they didn’t nerf this
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>>484925440
>be me
fuck off with this reddit shit
you can't be anyone but yourself you dumb nigger
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>>484923692
All loretubers suck complete ass and not a single one knows how to extract meaning from the actual text itself.
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>>484912323
What the hell are you stacking to get a result like that?
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>>484925348
Yeah more than enough.
Post results.
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>>484925376
even worse. gross. if i smell a cheesy gank i typically immediately run away and hide in the level somewhere and go afk. if it's actually a place where you can't escape anywhere i just block those people. fuck 'em. idk why people need to cheat like that, it's pathetic.
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>>484912221
Why the long face, Marika?
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>>484923278
>If I call it reddit, they'll think I'm not a redditor
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>>484925332
Just as I thought, keep seething stancebreak shitter
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>>484925535
just say they have no reading comprehension, just like almost all people who use the internet these days
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>>484924673
>Furthermore it's never stated that they worship the tower itself just the crucible.
They call it "The Divine Tower." Denying that the towerfolk who serve the tower, protect the tower, cast tower magic in service to the tower while venerating the spirits of the tower in tower rituals don't treat the tower as an object of worship is just being willfully blind to the explicit content of the text.
> they began stuffing the non horned into jars because they believed they were sinners
Nowhere is this mentioned.
>everything still points to it existing beforehand
What "everything"? I told you there was nothing to support your argument and you just restated it without providing any supporting citation or textual evidence--because there is none.
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>>484925535
They either speculate too much, stick to the literal text of items descriptions too much (instead of using common sense or contextual evidence), or they ramble about the archaeology / esoteric meaning without actually positing anything tangible.
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>>484925693
The tower is representative of the spiral, which is the holy formation. The dragons praise and so do the horns of the hornsent (they spiral)
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>>484912221
>100s of fights against Radahn
LMFAO
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>>484925535
souls loretubers is essentially just an ego contest of who can convince the most people that their theory is correct
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Bored......
Anyone wanna pvp....?
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>>484925348
how hard is radahn compared to something like, say, midra?
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>>484912221
>He posted it again
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>>484924819
I completely agree, I enjoy long stretches of land that aren't full of content. It's nice to be able to travel through an area like Cerulean coast without encountering a bunch of graves surrounded by dogs guarding some rune fragments or a catacombs dungeon every 5 steps you take, it's a big improvement over the base game in that regard. There's this retarded idea with open worlds that more "content" = better, it needs to be absolutely filled to the brim with points of interest to encounter, and I think that's completely retarded. Sometimes it's just nice to ride through a vast beautiful area on your way to the next legacy dungeon, half of the witcher 3 is spent looking at the scenery while you travel around on roach and no one complains about that for some reason, it does an excellent job contributing to the atmosphere and sense of a grand adventure

It's a pervasive narrative presented as an objective criticism based on entirely on retard logic. Higher quantity of shit to do = better no matter the quality. People act as if the lack of copy paste dungeons and enemies make those areas nothing more than empty space when they're some of the most beautiful 3D vistas to ever be modeled
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>>484924870
The strangest invasion I've never had consisted of a host in full bullgoats with a 2H fingerprint shield just sprinting around all of caelid while blues poured in.
He did that exploit where you activate the taunter's tongue and then deactivate it, so you get a single invader forced into your world from the tongue priority but then prevent a second invader and instead get two blues. And he just kept doing that for like half an hour.
Most of the blues that were summoned were afk or pve-ers with 1k hp and soreseals so I just kept chasing him and he just kept running and running and running. When he finally ran out of flasks he pointed down and pulled the plug.
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What is the most convincing (and rational) lore revelation you’ve heard or thought up after the dlc? I’ve got a few good alchemy connections but that’s really it.
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I still can't beat Fagdahn...
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>>484925834
>he doesn't beat the boss over and over, quitting out before winning, until he can do the fight clean, instead of panicrolling and chugging flasks desperatly
Mother would be sad
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>>484926032
People who claim the game is empty are outing themselves as unironically braindead slop consoomers who can’t fathom an emotional response to landscapes or environmental storytelling. Literally got filtered by the devs.
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>>484925641
Yeah, I too love how it can't even break Fire Knight poise with an r2.
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>>484926182
I had to go pokeshield
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You know, I think it’s more of a political marriage. I don’t think Radahn and Miquella are actually having sex with each together.
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>>484926182
make sure to abuse his A.I
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>>484925532
>be you
>be angry little man
>piss and shit all over everything
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>>484926182
Abandon honor. Victory is all that matters.
rot his ass and then bleed and frost him to death.
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I’m still not over the fact these retards made frenzy flame weapons require intelligence for no reason even though frenzy flame is arcane and faith. Absolutely stunning display of stupidity
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>>484926446
If it's a political marriage, then sex is required because the whole point is to tie the bloodlines together. So who's getting pregnant?
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>>484926113
The Dragon War took place during the early days of Godfrey's reign, and Godwyn probably identified a lot with his barbaric heritage, and was just not some golden knight good boy.
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>>484926032
>>484926404
This idiocy right here is why we'll never return to the quality standards we had in DS1. Amazing the lengths shills will go to, even as far as saying an area having content and good landscaping are mutually exclusive.
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>>484925834
>he doesn't create save states outside of all the best bosses so he can refight them constantly with different builds for testing or for fun
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>>484926603
Miquella’s getting spiritually pregnant with Radahn’s hot, steaming essence to have lots of little demigods
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>>484926692
Why not just CE them back alive at that point?
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>>484926603
Why do you think Miquella gave his god form wide hips
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>>484926670
Okay the big brain, what is your solution? Name specific empty areas and how they can be improved on?
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>>484926650
>Godwyn was a noble savage with a heart of gold that ended the dragon war through friendship
Wtf he’s even hotter now
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>>484926692
retard
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>>484926758
I don't have cheat engine downloaded.
Don't intend to either.
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>>484926182
If you want a slightly more skillful alternative to shield poking, parrying the sucker is pretty effective and lets you cancel like half of the bullshit combos he does
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>>484925693
Anon do you think Christians worship their fucking churches?
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>>484926670
>quality standards of DS1
Lost Izalith
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>>484926963
AIIIEEE
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>>484926182
Why don't you just admit that you didn't beat the game and use one of the youtube cheese guides or summon people to do it for you?
Nobody will judge you since you can just lie and say you beat him alone with a normal weapon and they can't disprove it.
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Fcking shitty ass drop rates, I'm respeccing to arcane. Is bleed good in the DLC?
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>anvil hammer
>WA does no damage in pvp
lmao
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>>484926815
Finger Ruins
Have a big barrier in the middle that needs you to clear some sites around the ruins to make you engage with the sniper mechanics
The ruins have scraps of stone talking about an unknown Shaman girl running to them and meeting Metyr placed by the buttons you need to press, maybe with a giant fingercreeper miniboss.

Breaking both barriers unlocks the Shaman village
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>>484926006
go help the lion knights at enir elim
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>>484926404
I've travelled literally all over this stupid blue earth. I simply don't have the lack of life experiences necessary to be mystified for 30 minutes of stretches like you are.
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>>484926692
People shouldn't need to go to those length just to refight bosses when Sekiro had it as a feature.
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>>484926941
Only if they’re European.
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>>484926815
Finger Ruins are the shittiest areas, even worse than Cerulean Coast and Grave, so I would say they should've started with an actual idea for this area beyond a giant empty space with sniper enemies. It's supposed to be otherworldly, so perhaps some mechanic that would make it maze-like with distorted space, or something along those lines, might've helped. Should've really given more thought into making traversal there interesting, aside from just sprinkling items (of which there are none anyway).
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Now that Radahn is a homosexual and/or raped bitch, who is the new reigning gigachad character?
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>>484927239
godfrey
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>>484926976
Lmao DS1 is unironically the emptiest game they made. Just long stretches of absolutely nothing to fight or look at. No plants to gather, no structures to look at and ponder, and item descriptions with literally nothing to read. Elden ring is an improvement in every way.
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>>484924737
>but then you get the golem fists
>holy fuck the golem fists
>what were they thinking
They weren't thinking. They clearly weren't tested. And nobody at from seriously playtests their own game.
Every single balance patch we've ever had since DeS even for stupidly obvious shit like CMGW MLGS in DaS2 had to be pointed out by the community.

Nobody at from tests this shit. They design overly flashy animations and then Jake from balancing has to desperately try to make it work before throwing his hands up and ramming that shit through unadjusted.
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>>484927286
He fucked Radagon
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>>484927286
Hmm maybe. Probably the best choice.
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>>484926404
>People who claim the game is empty are outing themselves as unironically braindead slop consoomers who can’t fathom an emotional response to landscapes or environmental storytelling.
Fromsoft's previous games show otherwise. Open world is a mistake, their dungeon crawler formula is the best and makes their games highly replayable. I've only completed Elden Ring twice because the game is a slog to get through, all because of the open world meme.
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>>484927239
Sir Gideon Ofnir
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havent played the dlc yet have they fucking explain what the tree is if its the roots of the erdtree and the dlc takes place upside down in a dark universe like in link to the past?
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>>484926758
nta but i have a bunch of experiences with different games where i'm peeved by some trivial inconvenience or something, so i decide i'm going to use console commands or cheat engine to hack the game just a little bit. but as soon as i do that, my view on the legitimacy of that playthrough is irreversibly tarnished. i'm horribly afraid of my autism causing that with elden ring, so i'm cursed ever to do save backups and beg for other people to mule shit for me
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>>484927123
Obviously you weren’t impressed by the stupid blue earth, or a fantasy world in a video game. Maybe you should watch some bob ross and get in touch with your feelings a little more buddy
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>>484927415
Is that jobber even a knight and/or royalty.
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>>484926976
Same game also has Ash Lake and Painted World of Ariamis. But we'll never see the like again in either atmosphere or level design.
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>>484927340
that's pretty fucking chad
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>>484926014
Radahn acts on a meta level assaulting your hardware to ensure some of his attacks can't be avoided.
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>>484927130
Absolutely agree.
Weird they never brought that over.
And I've got so many save states it's cluttered as all hell.
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>>484927239
Igon
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>>484926976
>standards
>posts the biggest exception
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>>484918209
The cutscene at the end and the language used, especially in Jap, shows Miq as in a position of weakness and entreating to Radahn
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>>484926941
they worship everything instead of what they are supposed to
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>>484927239
His rapist, ofcourse
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people shit on the latter half of DS1 a lot but demon ruins aren't that bad (Lost Izalith sucks though) and Tomb of the Giants is a fine small area with a cute gimmick. New Londo and Duke's Archives are perfectly fine.
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Ahhhh

Anor Londo
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>>484927510
I was impressed by the stupid blue earth. But a lot of the immaculate shit you see touches for different reasons than "it's just there lmao"
You could be out there sight seeing and appreciating the magnitude of natures perseverance or human accomplishment and instead you're being mystified by large fields of nothing but purple flowers
Wow!
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>>484926692
I'll just wait for a mod to let me do it. There was one for the base game so no reason to think there won't be this time.
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>>484924737
I got the golem fists on my second run when I decided to farm them.
Maybe a skill issue on your part.
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>>484927234
Yeah, giving the area some gimmick or huge environmental hazard would have gone a long way to make the finger ruins a much more interesting area
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>>484915420
Ymir's not trans and even if he was, trans people should be portrayed in all ways, including as grieving people that go full schizo.
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>>484927402
The open world is what gives elden ring so much replayability. It has all the benefits of tight level design with legacy dungeons and non-linear gameplay with the open world. It’s the best of both worlds.
Plus it takes maybe 10-15 hours to kill all remembrances casually when you’ve already played the game.
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>>484927759
New Londo is actually pretty good.
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>>484927478
Nope, nothing suggests that in the lore of the dlc, but there are descriptions that outright state the lands if shadow take up the space of the ocean in the middle of the lands between.
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Belurat is such a fucked up area. There's nothing in the entire bottom half. it's all empty.
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>>484927297
Ask any of the resident trannies in this thread that keeps posting their characters, should give you a good starting point, just enlarge the nose a bit and you're golden.
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>>484927660
>exception
everything past anal rodeo is low effort garbage
even anal rodeo is just a fancy corridor with a few mandatory branching paths
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>>484927939
Pleb opinion. The only area that blows is Lost Izalith.
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>>484927759
The "latter half" that's shit on is mostly just Lost Izalith. And Lost Izalith sucks so much fucking dick that it drags down every individuals memory of DaS1.
It's a shame they didn't get the budget to close that area out.
>>484925095
Scattershot is how you make that work.
Shotgunning daggers with poison on an arcane build is about the safest way to apply poison and is faster than the literal perfume bottle (excluding it's weapon art which WILL apply poison 100% of the time)
Slower than the poison hand though. That thing on a high ARC build has almost 150 poison buildup. Giving anybody the handshake in pvp will 100% poison them without fail.
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>>484927878
I don't like the ghost gimmick blind but once you figure out Transient Curses exist it's great. The New Londo Ruins opening up into Valley of the Drakes and having another cool interconnected moment really feels good too. Ton of really spoopy endgame enemies too.
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>>484922783
Wrong.
I like both, and with penises.
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>>484927914
Belurat and Enir-Ilim were clearly supposed to be connected and done in a single run imo. They seem to have cut it in two so the Divine Beast could be an early boss.
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>>484926670
>saying an area having content and good landscaping are mutually exclusive.
I didn't say this and you know I didn't so you obviously just want to argue fagboy. I don't know how it's shilling when I shit on the base games open world design in the same breath, and I have plenty of issues with the DLC as well, the open world just isn't one of them. Adding a bunch of enemies and dungeons everywhere along the Cerulean Coast would actively detract from my enjoyment of it, just like it did from Liurnia or Altus Plateau in the base game, I don't need 20 hours of repetitive shit to do in one zone like it's a ubislop game.

>This idiocy right here is why we'll never return to the quality standards we had in DS1
Couldn't have described your own post better, you're advocating for "MORE CONTENT" instead of a tighter more focused experience. People complain that "making it an open world ruined it" but SOTE is how you approach open world design without ruining it, everything is centered around the shaded castle, you get the vast beautiful environments without the repetitive slop. All they had to do to eat their cake and have it too was resist filling every area with gank squads and skyrim caves and they succeeded

>>484927402
I think SOTE is highly repayable for the reasons stated above just kidding but it would be if it wasn't for being gated behind progressing through the base game and skibidi prayer beads
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>>484928005
Seathe’s crystal caves is pretty shit.
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>>484927239
It’s always been The Tarnished
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Ahhhhh drakewarrior, dear friend...
Do me this favour
Take this finger
MY finger
But, hole
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>beat miquedahn
>see the cute memory of miquella pining for his brother’s cock
>can’t figure out what to do next or how to trigger the dlc end cutscene
t-that’s not it, is it? that would be terribly weak for an ending, no music or credits or resolution, just a ten second video of something we already knew? have i overlooked something? i went to st trina but she was just dead and i only got a hair flower, no cutscene
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>>484928117
Crystal caves is a good environmental puzzle area precisely because it's so short and empty. It's just an invisible bridge puzzle. If it was longer and full of enemies then it'd be fucking garbage, imagine trying to fight shit on invisible pathways.
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>>484928005
>Pleb opinion.
says the soulsperm newfag defending the shittiest game lmao
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>>484928201
Did you rike it?
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>>484928201
good job cutie, you did it, that's it!
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>>484928201
No, that's it. Good job beating the boss. I felt the same way you did - all five times I played through the DLC.
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>second time through abyssal woods
I'm skipping this fucking place on every playthrough from now on.
The fastest I can get to Midra's mansion is like 8 minutes and 2 of those are spent killing lanterns in the way.

What a shit show.
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>>484928201
You are valid, and you pass, sis
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>>484927130
>>484927605
They probably want to encourage summoning which is retarded because fighting the bosses with split AI and 3x health at skibidi level 2 isn't the same as just fighting them again. Sekiro had the feature because there was no summoning
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>>484928201
>antspur
>shield
>golden vow
You didn't beat him though
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>>484928338
Literally just parry and riposte the fuckers. They don't respawn and you get unique loot from one of them.
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>>484928274
You're trying too hard.
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Duke's Archives are good
Crystal Caves are good
Catacombs are good
TOTG is good
New Londo is good
Kiln of the First Flame is good

Lost Izalith is literally the only bad area in the game
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>>484928421
totg?
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>>484928338
Your crepus vial?
your bowshots from bushes to make them look away?
your triple digit IQ?- oh wait...
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>>484928393
NTA but fuck off with that bullshit. It's a single player game. People play it with whatever restrictions they see fit. If that makes Autists like you seethe, all the better for it.
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>>484928406
cope
das1 shitters are the second biggest blight on this series after pontiff troons
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>>484928495
Not him. Tomb of the Giants
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>>484928103
>Adding a bunch of enemies and dungeons everywhere along the Cerulean Coast would actively detract from my enjoyment of it
What if... it just had... new enemies. As appropriate to the area/biome. And unique, thematic items to find, as opposed to a metric ton of ghostwart. Instead of that it's big, open, and has nothing but recycled content to fill it. Enjoy the view, I guess.
>you're advocating for "MORE CONTENT" instead of a tighter more focused experience
Implying DS1 isn't exactly that?
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when should i do siofra?

also, should caelid be done before altus?
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>>484928338
You can use the arrows that make sound on impact to move them around and just sprint past them.
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>>484928504
>your bowshots from bushes to make them look away?
Killing them is literally faster as long as you're not dogshit at parries.
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What the hell is wrong with my game. This shit literally started to happen today. ffs Miyazaki.
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Miquella should have just stayed in his dope tree city. Trying to become god is retarded and almost always gets you killed.
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>enemy does attack i've seen several times before
>uh oh it was actually followed up with another entirely different attack that i've never seen before and now i'm dead
Wow so fun
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>>484928406
>U-URE TRYING TOO HARD
NTA but youre fucking pathetic, you argue like a jew
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>>484928612
user error
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>>484927875
>tight level design with legacy dungeons
Unfortunately the legacy dungeons don't have tight level design. There are stairs everywhere to give the illusion of level design and the size of everything makes the journey though them a slog like its open world.

>non-linear gameplay with the open world
This is an illusion. There are tons of regions where you cannot access unless you enter one very specific part. I found this to be incredibly frustrating in a game presenting itself as a go anywhere you want.

>Plus it takes maybe 10-15 hours to kill all remembrances casually when you’ve already played the game.
See, you're just confirming that Elden Ring is a slog to play though on repeat playthroughs.
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>>484928103
They could honestly release a SOTE sized release and I would pay full price. Granted it’s a new IP or they spent at least 3 years on development. The 2 years spent making SOTE was impressive, but I think they missed the sweet spot of having enough time to flesh it out completely. Needed like 1 more year of development, or needed to be smaller to account for the 2 year time of development.
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>>484928612
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>>484928552
>siofra
After stormveil/during Liurnia
>caelid
After liurnia/during altus
Several areas are meant to be progressed at the same time. Grab your upgrade materials and hop around.
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>>484928506
You're the one visibly seething though?
I'm calmly pointing out that he didn't beat the game.
You're really upset about this though.
Did you also not beat the game?
Better luck next time champ.
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>>484928582
>killing lanterns is faster than just keep walking forward
????
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>>484928629
Did the Scadutree avatar hit you with the triple explosion? Because that one just left a bad taste in my mouth the first (and only) time I died to it
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>>484928629
>I'm going to do my 8 attack super combo and at the end I'm going to leap backwards to the edge of the arena hehe
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>>484928778
>A directly line is faster than a curve
Yes. Correct.
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>>484928338
bitch got filtered hard because he couldn't just hack and slash his way through everything
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>>484928764
The boss is dead. Everything else is you moving goal posts and trying to shit on someone for making it happen. I have beaten this game at level 1. You sure as shit haven't.
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>>484920996
ds1 was best.

if you don't like it, just play offline.
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>>484927512
>pathetic nerd jobber who makes his whole personality about knowing things even though he only owns a couple of encyclopedias he hasn't read
>ostracized by society, probably considering the rope
>come to the lands between, create a new identity, gives himself a title, doubles down on his bad ideas
>people here buy it
>starts delegating like a demagogue while he sits in the library pretending to at books that he can't read so he can peep on the autismo warrior chick who only allowed you to get close because you reworded your advances as familial rather than romantic
>tarnished starts to one-up him, all of the women start giving them attention over him
>hatches a jealousy-fueled revenge plot
>well, another one after the first one failed because the mute emo kid got bad-ending'd when he sicced him on the tarnished
>stalks them while they fight all the demigods he's been promising he'd handle
>fails to realize he's adopting failed strategies
>returns to his fate as a jobber
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>>484928582
nah not really, I've done both
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>>484928841
>I have beaten this game at level 1.
Sure you have sweetie.
That's why you got third-party anger when I pointed out that someone didn't beat the game because you could only do it with the same means.
Better luck on your next attempt!
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>>484928841
>I have beaten this game at level 1.
No prooves.
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>>484928201
nope thats it, incredibly empty ending, they seemed too afraid to do anything to grand for the endign so we just got this half assed slop, great dlc but the ending really leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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>>484925828
>The spiral is a normalized Crucible current that, one day, will form a column that stretches to the gods.
The tower isn't representative of the spiral, the tower IS the spiral. Because it's literally the crucible.
Once again, you can see inside the tower's supporting structures and see the insides are filled with flesh. The tower is not some symbolic architecture it's literally the crucible encased in stone. That's why the Gates of Divinity are at the top and not the base.
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>>484928916
Ds1 was still broken and twink fueled
DaS2 would be the best without soul memory (and still is due to invasions locking phantom flasks)
DaS3 would be the best if the pvp wasn't dogshit.
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>>484928973
>>484928959
Radagon + Elden Beast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvzLyizTl2I
Malenia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWu9B69P_PM
Godskin Duo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-R45ejCchU
Mohg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q51QFlm-t-U
Hoarah Loux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlfL_g4CIJA
Fire Giant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bDkaFSPC8Y
Loretta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVMPONaJgg8

This is the shit I have videos of. Since a few of you fuckers pointed out that using summons is not "beating the game" I am unironically doing another level 1 run right now (currently at Mohg) without summons just to flip you the bird.
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>>484928832
>a slight curve is faster than wasting time baiting a singular attack on the enemy designed to waste time to get more madness buildup in
infinite retard
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goalpost shift inccoming
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>>484928680
>There are tons of regions where you cannot access unless you enter one very specific part.
The only region like this is the mountaintop of giants.
Being able to enter any area you want at any level you want based on your skill to handle powerful enemies is a great part of this game.
>10-15 hours
>a slog
I don’t know how old you are, but you have the mentality of a zoomer.
That’s 10-15 hours of good content every time. Less time if you’re better at the game and skip shit bosses like astel and fortissax.
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>>484929126
I kneel
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>>484929126
>ashen summons
>status effects
>cheese builds galore
>zero evidence this is even you
Lmao.
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>>484928841
What if messmer bugged out and hurled himself over the edge of his arena and died without your input? Yes this has happened and no they didn’t beat the game because of it. If you don’t interact with the boss mechanics and moveset because you hid behind a shield the whole time, you unironically didn’t beat the game.
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>>484929126
>see thumbnail
>tiche
I don't even need to see more, you clearly didn't beat it.
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>>484929231
It's me lol. I still have the save in question and the other I am working on right now. See pic rel.
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>>484928803
Rykard, actually
His left to right sword swing followed by a right to left delayed sword swing is what i excpected

He did a left to right followed by an instant snake bite
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>>484929110
>you can see inside the tower's supporting structures and see the insides are filled with flesh.
I never noticed this
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>>484927685
>tranny character wears a cloak of compassion to conceal the fact that they are a gay groomer sexual predator

can't make this shit up.
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>>484929231
>d-doesn't count
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>>484929126
>watch some of them
>its basically just tiche soloing the boss while you spam some kind of ash of war or other spell from the background
Was this supposed to be impressive?
You didn't beat the game at RL1.
Tiche beat the game at RL1.
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>>484928545
>What if... it just had... new enemies. As appropriate to the area/biome. And unique, thematic items to find, as opposed to a metric ton of ghostwart. Instead of that it's big, open, and has nothing but recycled content to fill it. Enjoy the view, I guess.
You can make this argument for the areas packed with "content" but your complaint wasn't a lack of variety in it's content it was just that the areas are too empty. If that was your issue you would've singled out the areas filled with repetitive enemies and items instead of complaining the cerulean coast or charos graves don't have enough of them

>Implying DS1 isn't exactly that?
lol what? I'm saying DS1 is a tight focused experience and that SOTE is too, you're saying DS1 is just repetitive shit and that's why it's good or did you misunderstand my post?

>>484928685
I agree, I much prefer this approach but it feels more like an entire game that's undercooked rather than a fully fleshed out DLC, If they continue to make open worlds I hope they're more like this
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>>484929441
Which is why I said that I'm doing the run again without summons. See >>484929358
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>>484929181
>That’s 10-15 hours of good content every time.
Not even that anon. That's fucking hilarious.
>Fight the same enemies in a game in which the PvE is nearly completely consequential unless it's a boss
>travel the entire map collecting the same exact items in the same exact places often stretches of parts numbering 10 minutes plus
>GOOD CONTENT
God damn. I needed that laugh
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>>484929181
I've already mentioned in this thread that past Fromsoft games with their dungeon crawler world is their best formula. Open world is a mistake. If you have a problem with my opinion then tough shit, you ain't going to change it.
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>>484929126
>entire malenia fight is letting tiche kill her while you spam a ranged ash of war at her and if she ever aggros on you then you just keep running away until tiche reaggros and go back to spamming at distance
Why even bother with RL1 at this point?
You're not doing anything in that video, the summon is unironically doing the whole boss for you.
This is actually pathetic that you would post this as proof of your "skill".
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>>484929441
So what's next? I'm not allowed to use specific weapons, right? Maybe not upgrade my flasks? Maybe not equip Radagon's Soreseal? Maybe doing it naked (as if that increases difficulty at all)? Keep moving the goal posts.
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>>484929539
something about anor londo feels so much bigger even though im pretty sure leyndell covers more ground
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>>484929126
That’s neat but you forgot the most basic principle of these games. If you didn’t beat the boss on your first try without looking it up and having any clue as to what the boss was going to do, you didn’t authentically beat them. Miyazaki has stated such in his interviews.
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>>484929645
Where is your level 1 playthrough? Oh, that's right - you have none. With summons or not. That says it all.
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>>484928302
dire
insane that it got greenlit in this state

>>484929002
extremely depressing, i thought this was going to be the end of elden ring and have some send off other than lol gay incest

>>484928393
actually i used the prepatch rolling sparks to nuke them, the antspur is just aesthetic looking
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>>484929740
this is pathetic cope
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>>484929654
this looks like torture
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>>484929654
>he got laughed at for his tiche cheese so now he's shield turtling with rot rapier to show his l33t skill
Holy fug my sides
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>>484929654
Unironically yes. That’s the shtick. They just set the goalposts where they want so they can tell people they didn’t win. It’s been a meme for a very long time with FromSoft games. Don’t sweat it, man.
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>If you deal more than 100 dmg to the boss per hit you didn't beat it
>If you survive any attack from the boss you didn't beat it
>If you used any means of de-agro or stagger mechanics you didn't beat it.
It's really simple.
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>>484929654
challenge run trannies are absolutely deranged and unhinged. i'll give you this one for free, though:

>no one gives a shit about your gameplay experience.
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Lies of P
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>>484929654
Take off the shield and get rid of the status effect weapon and maybe I'll be impressed.
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>>484930005
Marikas Dicks!
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Mimic tear is me. If he beats it, I beat it. Simple as.
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Anyone on PS5 willing to drop me a sword of night? I fucked up and thought it was the grace item that gave it and I didn't back up my save first
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>>484930061
You beat the game
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>>484930061
so if you have sex with your mimic tear, it's masturbation?
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>>484930005
is that any good? it's on sale right now
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You can have both great vistas and actually content filled in that vista
If you are the kind of mouth drooling retard who can't focus on the environment because you had to clean it out, you're too mentally stunted for videogames.
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https://youtu.be/aGwLmiWPGO0?7TagIaa1hnGcXSkL
The PS4 version running on PS5 than the console's native version is so fucking funny to me. Although I'm kinda scared to see how bad the DLC runs on a base PS4.
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>>484930103
sent
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>>484930061
The mimic didn't beat it because you were helping him therefore the mimic is a shitter
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>>484930061
Only if your Mimic tear solos it.
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>>484927239
Radagon. He invades Lucaria then decides to fuck and maybe cuck Renalla, creates three very powerful demigods with her, tosses her sword to some mutant freak in a cave and starts fucking Marika, creating even more powerful demigods, all while seeking complete enlightenment by mastering Sorcery and Incantations.
Maybe Ranni or Morgott.
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>>484930123
Yes
>>484930128
Yes
>>484930208
I am very little help
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>>484928612
nigga is playing on a gtx 280
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>>484927875
couldnt disagree more

dark souls 1-3 are shorter, condensed experiences that generally don't have "wasted" areas. everything contributes to your progression in some way, but at least with ds1 and ds2, and you can selectively progress in your desired order. it's fun to redo these games because you can find new ways to progress through the whole game

elden ring is the opposite. the open world has a lot of stuff in it, but most of it just feels half-wrought. even though the game has some of the most fun weapons, bosses and areas in the series, there is just so much of the opposite that it spoils the broth. it's not enticing to play through multiple times because most of it feels like a chore. either you have to clear catacombs #21 to get some shitty talisman that will boost your build by 5%, or you have no real reason to do it at all because it's optional and essentially identical to any other catacombs before and after that. just like tree sentinel #24 and ulcerated tree spirit #12. even the *good* legacy dungeons often don't feel good to clear because they are optional and don't give you anything of value either. that is, if you aren't exhausted by all the filler shit by the time you arrive to them.

think about dark souls 1. how good would that game have been if you weren't actually forced to beat the gargoyles, and you could just ride a horse past them to get to sen's fortress? what if sen's fortress was also an optional area that just gave you a special boss weapon that your build doesn't need? the driving factor in these games is that you have to struggle and push through iconic areas. giving the player a horse and saying "lol just go do whatever" kinda doesn't work with that
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>>484930147
It's great, not kidding.
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Does this mean that Godfrey fucked his cat? Or his cat fucked him?
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>>484930381
Yes.
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>>484927875
>The open world is what gives elden ring so much replayability.
LOL
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>>484930147
Surprisingly good can recommend
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>>484930381
That's a dog
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>>484930005
based

>>484930147
it’s really great plus it has cute twinks and handsome father figures uuuooohh
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>>484930381
I dunno, not like there's any lore for Serosh to say otherwise.
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>>484930381
>Godfrey, Consort of Serosh
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>>484930381
I think it’s just a visual parallel. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t fuck his cat.
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>>484930527
>>484930527
>>484930527
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>>484929716
That's impossible, since I got the game six months after release. It was my first souls game and I was talked into trying it by my brother. Beyond that it took me about 50 hours for my first playthrough which ended at level ~130 or whatever. I have completed a run a NG+7, but ended up getting too many levels thus trivializing the game and ruining the character.
>>484929817
Success breeds jealousy.
>>484929873
It depends on how you look at it. I find the challenge entertaining. Frustrating at times, but better than overleveling the content.
>>484929875
You know shield turtling does next to nothing at level 1, right? I have an arsenal of weapons I use depending on the boss. When the pic was taken I had just killed Morgott, which was a huge pain in the dick to say the least. Not because of his basic moves, but because of AoE damage and dagger throws. The shield helped a bit with that, but ultimately it was the Great Stars with frost infusion that did the trick.
>>484929890
I can't help it. It's my bruised ego :p
>>484929967
Agreed.
>>484930036
I have a separate save file for a purist run without somber weapons, ashes of war and status. That one is not at level 1 until I can figure out the best strat, though. I need to learn which weapons work best and how to survive as I find openings in the fight - knowing full well that I die instantly. Relying on RNG to get a win isn't skill.
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>>484930381
>doesn't do shit
>about to do shit
>godfrey instantly kills him
wasted
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>>484930147
>they put on on sale right after the shadow of the erdtree dlc is being finished by most people
Hehe that's smart
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What head armor goes well aesthetically with the Finger Robe? Wish there was like a big gnarly mass of fingers that replaced your face.
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>>484929539
Your opinion is shit and you sound like a woman.
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>>484930573
>porn addicted coomer thread
>early
kill yourself, pest
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>>484930576
This is actual cope.
You sat back and watched your summon kill the bosses for you.
Somehow you made RL1 require less skill than just playing normally solo.
Truly incredible.
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Someon3 make an actual thread
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>>484921552
you can't kill an idea
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>>484929501
Why would you fight anything but the bosses?
>collecting items
Takes about an hour to grab your seeds and flasks.
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>>484930663
every general must have a schizophrenic spammer
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>>484930653
Nta, but Kill yourself
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>>484930606
The way the handle Serosh is really funny, he might as well be a Zanzibart.
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>>484930576
what you did is only slightly harder than just summoning another player to beat the boss for you
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>>484930730
Aye, like I've said twice already which is why I am doing a second RL1 run without summons. Even if that's the case it doesn't take away from the fact that I have a completed RL1 run already - you don't.
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>>484930576
>You know shield turtling does next to nothing at level 1, right? I have an arsenal of weapons I use depending on the boss. When the pic was taken I had just killed Morgott, which was a huge pain in the dick to say the least. Not because of his basic moves, but because of AoE damage and dagger throws. The shield helped a bit with that, but ultimately it was the Great Stars with frost infusion that did the trick.
Yeah man I'm sure you're standing on mohgwyns area where you said in the previous thread that you'd been fighting mohg with your antspur pokey build because you totally aren't using it against him.
Feel free to post gameplay of you fighting him normally to prove otherwise.
Hell I might even jump on my SL1 guy and come watch you.
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>>484919221
Ansbach isn't an obsessive freak like Varre.
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>>484918625
>Radahn getting hyped as fuck only for TrickyMiq to tranquilize him like a rowdy gorilla
Fuck dude he really couldn’t let the man have one thing he enjoyed could he? He already lost Leonard, at least let him enjoy a good brawl without interference.
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>>484930880
Great. Then you do it.
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>>484921552
>kill a saint of god
>god still exists
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>>484930957
I have nothing to prove to you. You think you own me? You think I care that you don't believe in me or my accomplishments? Fuck off, slave.
I am the only one that have posted videos of me getting this far - or screenshots of my new char. You have done nothing except attempt to throw shade at someone because you are a jealous prick.
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>>484930863
godfrey himself is practically zanzibart
>mentioned in a few item descriptions
>you fight a fake version of him with no build-up
>shows up out of nowhere to be the penultimate boss
>is revealed to be a guy from the opening cutscene, who hasn't been mentioned since

you could replace him with a crucible knight and the story would not be negatively affected
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>>484931208
the only character in elden ring that isnt zanzibart is ranni
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>>484924364
Probably because the dark and edgy katana is way better and has no INT reqs.
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>>484931157
That anon is right though.
Your SL1 run doesn’t count if you cheesed with ashes or status weapons.
Why bother with a challenge run if you’re not going to do it properly?
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>>484924334
not really relevant but cool thanks for sharing

>>484924494
not really relevant but cool thanks for sharing
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>Make Radahn impossible to beat because ???
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>>484930576
>Agreed.

i mean... i don't think you do, though. if you agreed with me then you wouldn't be posting on social media about it trying desperately to get validation. my point is no one gives a shit. if you agreed then you would just play in whatever way is fun for you and not even tell anyone about it, let alone try to act superior to others because of it.
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>>484923692
the little people who don't make any money from it or eceleb/whore it out.
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>>484932234
>79 end
for what purpose
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>>484933642
To endure having no vigor



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