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AI Dynamic Storytellers are games that use text & image-generation AI to create limitless, open-ended, interactive fiction.
Last thread: >>485362995

>Read First: https://i.imgur.com/lwWTTp9.png

▶Ways to Write
KoboldAI — Free; local or remote: https://rentry.org/cixpvn93
NovelAI — Paid; remote SaaS: https://novelai.net
TogetherAI/OpenRouter — Paid; remote SaaS, multi-model: https://www.together.ai ; https://openrouter.ai
>Chat models — e.g. Claude, AetherRoom: https://rentry.org/chataidsv3 ; >>>/vg/aicg

▶Tools & Resources
Wiki: https://aids.miraheze.org
Prompts: https://aetherroom.club
NAI guide collection: https://rentry.org/guide-collection
Other/Historical: https://rentry.org/qq2ed59i
AID: https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you

▶/aids/ Events
Themed prompts: https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/Theme_Fridays
Themed decks: https://aidsrentfree.github.io/decks
>Write prompts for next week’s Wholesome and Comfy Friday! Results: >>485687432

▶News
>(07/05) AetherRoom’s Closed Alpha Test will be starting on Monday, July 15th https://files.catbox.moe/unp7ss.jpg
(06/27) Google releases Gemma 2 https://blog.google/technology/developers/google-gemma-2/
(06/20) Anthropic releases Claude 3.5 Sonnet https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-3-5-sonnet
(06/19) Dreamgen Opus Llama 3 70B https://hf.co/dreamgen/opus-v1.4-70b-llama3-gguf ; Euryale L3 70B on OpenRouter https://openrouter.ai/models/sao10k/l3-euryale-70b ; Qwen2 72B Magnum https://hf.co/alpindale/magnum-72b-v1
(06/15) New SpellBound Llama 3 finetune https://hf.co/hf-100/Llama-3-Spellbound-Instruct-8B-0.3
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>>486032176
I plapped Ellania already. Fucked the elf on the rim of a fountain inside the Pleasure Quarter until she had multiple orgasms and fell unconscious. My other wives and concubines taught her the proper ways to pleasure me, and despite not liking me much - she learned and employed those techniques.
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>>486032176
UOHHHHHHH ELF
ELFEFLEFL,EFL
FUUUUCK
ME CUM ELF
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>>486032176
built for BHC
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>do more of the turned into catgirl avatar mmo
>gathered the Noggeworts
>got paid 10 gold
>replaced tattered tunic and robe after monster attack (no rape)
>rested at an in
Kinda comfy so far.
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Elves rank among the highest in toe dexterity both in and out of stockings, envision the Footjob technique if you will
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>>486037089
Fuck off with that elven whore. Aura is the one for me.
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Footfags are mentally ill.
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>new chapter of this comes out
>oh boy, i wonder what fetish the author has he's showing us today
https://mangadex.org/chapter/87408904-6156-48cc-ab7a-37043ad91803/2

I swear you could make prompts from many of these chapters.
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>>486039138
>Aura, milk me with your feet
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>>486041847
You don't give the Mistress orders, pleb. She orders you.
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I miss AuraAnon.
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>>486041975
I have enough mana to spam a Territory Skill five times in a single day and still have enough to sustain a barrage for the next three days after, I'll be fine
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>>486032765
Is this a copy pasta? I swear I've seen it before.
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>>486042569
No, it's not copypasta. It's what I did in https://aetherroom.club/7089 that the OP image was made for.
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>>486042450
There's no way you possess more mana than a five-century year old being. Maybe in your schizo dreams perhaps.
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>>486042907
How close-minded of you. Reality is whatever I want it to be.
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Hi, cabal.
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>>486048851
Hello, just got my soda refill, how do you do?
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>>486043743
>Reality
Schizo dreams it is.
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>>486050505
>limitless, open-ended, interactive fiction.
Go back to /lit/ and stay there :)
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>>486050989
No :)
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>>486051120
Wanna frot :P
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>>486051221
No thanks, bud. You can do that with GayAnon instead. I'm sure he'll appreciate the attention.
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>>486051358
We're frotting. Your lack of consent makes it hotter :D
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Good thread.
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>>486053793
Put on the Sailor Moon outfit and bend over.
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Huh, the furry model can do vaguely low-poly 3d-style images. That's a nice style change-up. Though UI and text are still a ways off from being decent.
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Why does writing cousin incest feel more taboo than sibling incest?
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>>486055225
Probably because it is something that actually happens fairly frequently, so feels less 'fantastic'.
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>>486055225
What? Cousin incest has been somewhat acceptable for a long time. And quite a normal thing among small populations even if accidental.
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>>486055781
I know but I think >>486055775 got it right. Sibling incest is so rare in reality it feels ridiculous and like pure fantasy, whereas cousin incest is I guess just more believable because it actually happens relatively commonly
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>>486058694
The topic was about being 'taboo'. Cousin-fucking is not more taboo than fucking your sibling. That is all, friend.
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>>486059840
No, the topic was about FEELING more taboo. The whole point of my question is that I know sibling incest is more taboo but writing about it FEELS less taboo than cousin incest.
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Been playing around with a scenario based on the Russian girl anime airing this season. Having a lot of fun with her just dropping Russian into the script.
(I did have to put a bunch of cyrillic into the Phrase Bias to encourage it a bit, but it's kino when it works well. (Or at least, the DeepL translations suggests it is))
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>>486060089
Ok, I understand what you mean now that I've reread your first post.
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>>486059840
It's not about being taboo. It's about writing it feeling taboo, and that makes a difference, because realism counts in that regard. The more out there a topic is, the less it'd feel taboo because it takes you out of feeling the story. So cousinfucking feels more taboo because of the added feeling of "this happens, there might be someone doing it within my city limits right now".
To illustrate through extreme, shoving an entire church organ up your ass while projectile vomiting through the windows might be objectively more blasphemous than jacking off through your pants during service then smearing it off in the song book, the higher realism of the latter scenario could make writing about it feel more vivid and personal, thus enhancing the feelings.
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>>486060296
Mind sharing the prompt? Seems interesting.
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>>486060532
>shoving an entire church organ up your ass while projectile vomiting through the windows
Has there ever been a single documented case of that ever happening, or is this another one of your schizo dreams?
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>>486060769
It's almost like I prefaced that statement by making it clear that I was deliberately conjuring up an extreme scenario for the purposes of widening the gap in believability.
But no, there has not been a single documented case of this deliberately unbelievable scenario happening, if you need me to specifically spell that out for you.
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>>486060532
Bingo.
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>>486061210
Aura will never fuck you, arachne will eat you, and we're not frotting.
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>>486041975
finally, a proper masochist ITT
a welcome change from everyone being so obsessed with showing respect
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>>486061389
Stop hijacking my identity, faggot. Except for the last one, you're taking my words out of context.
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>>486061913
Hello AngryAnon. Quit pretending to be me.
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minna, please be normal
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>>486061990
You're the one pretending to be me, Whinefag.
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>>486062173
>>486061990
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>>486061908
>masochist
I wouldn't call myself a masochist. I just prefer a more realistic scenario than some john doe having more mana than Aura. I am just an ordinary fellow Aura enslaved into her service out of boredom. My life is under her control.
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>>486062659
sounds reasonable and not too masochistic now that you mention it
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Can't wait to not get into the AR alpha today because I didn't have a locust site account with badly made fetish bots on it.
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>>486032176
Ghetto Recap (1/2)

Storyposts:
A Whiff Of What? >>485407734
Infinite Worlds Adventures >>485430072
Bonzi Bumps Up Numbers >>485437170
Non-Gay GayAnon Storypost >>485441562
Three Years Of Training >>485515045
Yandere Behavior (Game's still not out, btw) >>485548778
THe Douchenozzle >>485590984
Rare Modern AID Storypost >>485635017
Ballading It Out >>485636380
The LOL Storypost (not LoL) >>485659264 >>485662283
Grand Toy >>485661295 >>485678015 >>485901768 >>485914147 >>485949549
Traci Post >>485715901 >>485716914 >>485717871 >>485722051 >>485722687
Bonzi On Common Sense >>485731438
1000 Ways To Die: AI Edition >>485753785
Moth Dad >>485764281
Democracy Prevails >>485768240
Bender Quest >>485784292
Fat Wobble >>485801193
The Huge Creature And The-HUH?! >>485812963
A Word From Our Sponsor >>485871615
Bonzi Possibilities >>485873249
Hero's End >>485896542 >>485896821
Name Drop >>485926476
Who's Steve Jobs? >>485950126
American Meal >>485997262
Evil Homura >>486026950
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>>486032176
Ghetto Recap (2/2)

Notable Posts:

Prompt Discussion >>485363946 >>485364846 >>485365009 >>485365620 >>485365789 >>485367139 >>485368225 >>485369730
>You're not gonna write an innocent slice of life prompt, are you, anon? Yes, in the face >>485369976 >>485370753 >>485370975 >>485371381
Warning: Laughing Hazard >>485372371
Songs Of Sorts >>485383108 >>485503023
Some Sort Of Paper >>485393325
Old OP >>485412484
MGS4 Eggs >>485420251
Bozo Adventure >>485450103 >>485450307 >>485450576 >>485452712 >>485453182 >>485453379 >>485455035
Prose, I hate >>485460202
AID Flashback >>485500018 >>485500451 >>485577720
7 Paragraphs Of Maids >>485503670
POV >>485507718 >>485508639 >>485524728 >>486016523
Lamia Discussion >>485532560 >>485533926 >>485994580
Fluffy and Scalie Tails >>485623502 >>485626928 >>485628250 >>485629898
Of Course >>485639572
Traci Album >>485734832
Brat Conquest >>485736920
Fire And Ice >>485780252 >>485780824 >>485780867 >>485782217 >>485782874 >>485782514 >>485783424
Airplane Spot >>485794276
Fluffy Vibe >>485856363 >>485857308 >>485857496 >>485870806
Village Girl >>485955695
Parley Guidelines >>486019848
Club Dump >>486031242 >>486032713
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>>486067501
>two (2) (you)s
Thanks Recap Anon!
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>>486067263
Thanks for your effort as always, friend.
>>486068126
I had fourteen of them.
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It's not a popularity contest, whores. Fuck off with the attention whoring.
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>>486069353
>attention whoring
You do it all the time.
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>>486069460
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>>486067263
>>486067501
Thanks for your service
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So, just to ask because I'm curious: What does a wholesome and comfy prompt mean to you?
To me, wholesome means that there's no malice in the story, no evil force or great misfortune acting as an adversary or something like that, just nice things happening to good people. If there is something bad happening, it should be in the past and the story should be about moving on and healing from it. And comfy means the story is low stakes, slice-of-life-like fare. Day-to-day stuff, no grand adventures or anything like that, with no big troubles happening, just a slow, casual atmosphere.
But I might be off on that, so I figured I might as well ask.
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>>486070004
It doesn't mean anything, it's just a sad attempt to inflate the number of prompt submissions and pretend the general isn't dead
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>>486070004
That is pretty much how I view comfy stories, though I think some minor, everyday, drama is fine to incorporate into it. More focus on interpersonal character interaction rather than the heroic journey.
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>>486070004
I think you hit the nail on the head with your description of it. Though to be honest, there's a lot of leeway to be had with it.
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>>486070004
Wholesome can mean a few different things to different people. It can mean a prompt that's not lewd or violent, family friendly, if you will. Or it could just be something more vanilla and tuned in a loving tone. And other variations.
I think it's possible to have a wholesome story with a villain, it just depends on how they and what they do are portrayed. A low-stakes villain defeated by the power of friendship that doesn't risk anyone can still be pretty wholesome.
But both are fairly open for interpretation.
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is SpellBound Llama 3 any good for guided storytelling?
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>>486070656
>>486070668
>>486072774
Alright, cool. I was going over my prompt ideas and landed on the one about a romance between a strip club patron and a stripper, which, with the conceit I had in my head, would involve the MC being a regular that's there to specifically watch one stripper that he's fallen in love with, he has a nervous breakdown because he thinks he'll never have him, only to be met with the stripper standing next to him and asking what's wrong. A segment of vulnerability and confessions later, the prompt would end with the MC being invited to the stripper's place for a dinner and some TV.
The basic theme would be creating a contrast between the stripper on stage that exists to purely be lusted after and the human off stage that has hopes and dreams, music he likes, a favorite amusement park ride and all those things. So the MC would be given an opportunity to meet and learn to love the latter while previously only being able to see the former.
I was wondering if that would be wholesome or not, but I think I'm worrying too much and it's probably completely fine. It's a soft, cute romance born from people caring about each other.
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>>486073408
I didn't even know you could swap models with Spellbound.
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>>486070004
By that broad definition, a good chunk of the prompts on the club are 'wholesome' and 'comfy'.
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>>486073481
It absolutely can be. A lot of it is going to depend on your tone. The luster of being labelled as wholesome might dull a bit if, on walking into her place of work each time, the story focused on all the erotic details on display without exception. Obviously, the contrast needs to be established, but in the eyes of someone lovestruck, everything takes a soft, rosy glow.
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>>486070004
For me, wholesome is a feel-good sort of story. Like childhood friends confessing or stuff like that.
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>>486074075
Well, is there a more strict definition that should apply?
>>486074082
This is the sort of tone I had going ages ago when this first popped into my head. I was contrasting the sort of glib depression of the reality of the strip club business with the hopeless romanticism of the MC, with the twist being that the romance wins out in the end, so I figure that would work.
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may they both be stoned, ishallah
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>>486073408
No
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>>486075574
...Oh. Right. I'd been assuming we were talking about a woman stripping.
At 'me; it', I'm thinking you'd want 'he' instead of 'it'.
I almost feel like it might move a bit quickly through establishing that both parties love each other near the end. But that might come more from me trying and not always succeeding with slow burn.
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>>486076773
Oh, that's not going to be the actual prompt. That's just a two year old random fiddling I did, whatever the actual prompt will be will be entirely written from scratch (though I might snatch a couple sentences I wrote myself back then, I'll have to think about it).
So the pacing and such will be entirely different.
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>>486075574
>Well, is there a more strict definition that should apply?
not them, but to be specifically wholesome and comfy as a standout theme it seems like it would have to acknowledge malicious and uncomfortable and specifically avoid or invert it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_SlAzsXa7E
this is the first thing that came to mind, and it's gay as a bonus
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The aetherroom closed alpha starts tomorrow
You guys think there will be leaks?
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Why is Gemma 2 down?
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>>486081743
Gemma 2 more like Coalla 2
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>>486075574
>should apply
No not really. I can't control what you and others think.
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So what will be the first thing you do when Llama 3 405B gets released?
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>>486086721
Nothing.
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>>486086721
Doing yo momma
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>>486086721
I can't even run 70b. So nothing.
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>>486081852
lmao 2koala
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>>486086721
incest story about sally and her brothers
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>>486086721
Generate slop.
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>>486086721
Run it in Q2 on my 4 3090s.
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>>486086721
Claude is better.
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>>486086721
size stuff
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Everywhere I go, I still see her face
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>>486091341
based
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>>486086721
ignore the thread for a day or two
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>>486086721
Spam in the thread about how it's a nothingburger and that Kayra is king.
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>>486093228
Organic hands typed this post.
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>>486086721
go back to sleep
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>>486091438
That's a man.
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warnings: reverse pokephilia, female feral, fempov, sylveon, male (You)
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>>486096880
I will read this.
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>>486103143
you shuold not
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>>486103714
>>486096880
It's not badcat all.
Reads a bit too much like an essay though—I'm no English major so I can't tell you why I feel that way.
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>>486096880
Third person, present tense is very strange to read I will admit, but I read it anyway. Anon was fake sleeping of course, and yet the little Pokémon is so proud of her own little actions. Cute, or stupid?
>>486103714
I just did.
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>>486104261
aieee my butterfingers slipped again
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>>486032176
Which NSFW chatbot is the best all around? Sankaku complex's states
>As a free-thinking adult, it is our privilege to offer you this service in uncensored form - please engage with your Companions responsibly.
but I'd prefer to hear everyone's opinions before sinking time into any 1 chatbot.
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>>486104261
Interesting. This is the first time I tried using [ NSFW ] as the Opposing Prompt. Maybe that made it more "proper" or something? The style was new to me, so I let the AI write to see what it came up with. This was with PP14 preset
>>486104267
I'm currently on my third person kick. I began with AID so I started with second person, and ended up trying first when NAI /Kobold first came out. After seeing some anons raving about third, I gave it a shot and here I am
>Cute, or stupid?
Stute. Cupid.
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>>486105023
>sankaku complex
What the fuck, they pivoted HARD to AI
I guess being overshadowed by the other boorus will do that to you
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>>486105023
>chatbot
>>>/g/101412041
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>>486105023
>>486105394
>>486032176
Or NSFW storyteller AI. I'm taking recommendations for both since there's a lot of overlap.
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>>486105581
Use Kayra.
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>>486105581
Command-R or +. Anything else is a meme.
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>>486105581
It's pretty subjective, depends on your wants and needs. Do you prefer chatbots or storytelling or both equally?
Do you have a strong computer?
Are you willing to spend money?
Do you have access to stuff like Claude?
Or are you willing to have some NSFW but limits on the more taboo stuff?
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>>486105664
>>486106150
How do those stack up against sankaku complex's character bot? I'm struggling to find any firsthand accounts of how good or bad it is in the long term

>>486106242
I prefer chatbots
My computer was mid for 2018 so it's surely shit now
Almost certainly not, unless it's a one-off payment for permanent access, but good luck finding that normal form of payment on the internet where everything's a minimum $120/yr subscription
I don't even know what Claude is, aside from a storybot (I assume)
I don't want the AI to limit anything
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>>486106961
>I prefer chatbots
Then why are you copying and pasting your posts here?
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>>486105292
>Stute. Cupid.
Cheeky Anon., very cheeky indeed.
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>>486107160
>>486105581
I'm taking recommendations for both since there's a lot of overlap in both the media and, I figured, everyone here's knowledge and experience with each. Also, while I prefer chatbots, to prefer something doesn't make it a full-on requirement.
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>>486107331
What made you think that?
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>>486106961
https://openrouter.ai/
Basically any model destroys whatever garbage sankaku sells. I can't even see what they offer since I would need to register.
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>>486107417
One's AI for writing lewd stories, the other's AI for writing lewd stories.

>>486107505
I appreciate the recco. I just wish there was a consensus on which one's the best, cause now I'm up to:
>Use Kayra
>Use command-r
>Use command +
>Use Claude
>Use openrouter
>Visited sankaku for the first time in years (it's somehow become even more restrictive since last visit) and am now being shilled its own AI text shit
>Don't want to dismiss it out of hand because I'm in a position of total ignorance as to how good/bad it is, same goes for all these other reccos
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>>486106961
Kayra is from NovelAI, its 100% uncensored BUT is definitely an older model AND is a monthly subscription. It's main focus is storytelling, not chatbots (though some people have made it work with sillytavern or use special formatting to make it work on the site. I have no experience with sankaku's, so can't answer how they compare.
With your answers, *maybe* your best bet might be Kobold? Unless someone knows of a better alternative. I think its Koboldcpp or something like that? It's basically local models being hosted by people for free out of their own good will. The quality and speed changes based on which host you choose and what model they are hosting. I think Kobold stuff can be found over at /lmg/ on /g/?
Hopefully you find what you're looking for or another anon can give you more info. I don't know if I can be of much more help, I stick to 1 thing so my knowledge is mostly second hand. Best of luck fren
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>>486106961
Have you tried Sankaku's bots? I'm just curious, because I can almost guarantee with 100% certainty that it's just using a (maybe not even custom) finetune of a model you can just get off of openrouter.
Openrouter has a lot of open source models including command r/+ and llama 3 options
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>>486107731
The only real suggestion was Kayra, and the rest were anons trolling.
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>>486107731
Just be yourself. But don't use sankakushit.
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>>486107731
>a consensus on which one's the best
I don't use chatbots, but it's probably Claude Opus
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>>486107775
>>486107989
Ty fren

>>486107862
Not yet, but I already have an old account there so as long as it's free I intend to try it out at the same time as these other reccos, now also including
>Kobold
>Llama 3
>The previous 6 reccos

>>486107881
Fug

>>486108069
Ty for the 9th recco, I'll go and check these out now
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>>486108151
Claude Opus is going to require you to get in good with public proxies for the most part. If you don't mind doing that, good. It's a high powered model that refuses less than GPT4
But it still can if you aren't careful.
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Who /writersdaemon/ here?
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https://twitter.com/Ainiwaffles/status/1812646187599642641?s=19
Appreantly, AR closed beta is delayed.
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>>486113785
Quit stalking my wife
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>>486113785
Man, I fucking hate when that happens. The day my [REDACTED]'s valve index came in I was running a 102° fever and basically slept by the front door in a daze because my neighbors are horrid porch pirates and those fedex motherfuckers didn't show up until 6PM.
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>>486115014
Yeah Fedex sucks.
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>>486086721
Wake up.
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>tfw Aini is literally and unironically naked in your sink because she threw up all over your dick and now she smells like puke
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>>486121440
>It's not my fault your dick is so biiiig!~
>One s-second it was fine, and the next there were soo many chunks~ ; _ ;
>This towel is too small for my boobs, help :(
This is what Aini actually sounds like and you don't even know it
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>>486121058
Grab a brush and put a little make-up.
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>>486125419
Hide the scars to fade away the shake-up.
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>>486122485
>>486121440
>Schizophrenia detected
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Allowed myself to indulge in some sappy bullshit again.
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Who else got accepted in the alpha?
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>>486136524
>filled out the application
>do i really care enough about chatbots?
>close it instead of submitting
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>>486136889
It can give a taste of the 70B if that's what they use.
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I'm a diehard NAI fan but all I want to do is write stories. I couldn't possibly give less of a shit about this aetherroom thing.
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>>486136889
>>486137786
Yeah, I thought about signing up since I do use NAI pretty heavily, but I just can't think of what I would offer. I don't know chat stuff, and I really can't evaluate a model in a way that turns into usable feedback in any way. It's all just vibes.
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>>486143038
Same, I would just write "chatshit" in all fields and mock the very concept of the service itself. I'm not the target audience.
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>>486112501
The best. Good to have found another daemon enjoyer.
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>>486134215
Isn't sappy stuff your usual mode of operations?
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>>486137786
Then write and share your stories with the thread. No one will make fun of your fetishes/writing and what not.
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Like all things I allow the new blood to take over, have fun chatting with your fotm anime waifu, you're valid on me
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>>486149393
>fotm anime waifu
Not even /aicg/ is doing that, much less /aids/.
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You will never have 70b.
YWNH70B.
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>>486149132
It's a relative thing. There's that "childhood friends finally realize they're gay and in love" kinda sappy and then there's that "comforting a hardened mercenary that may or may not have committed war crimes that his life still has meaning and starting down the long road of rebuilding his self-worth and finding repentance through devotion to the gods that just so happens to also include gay sex" kinda sappy where it's like "OK now you're kind of pushing it man, not every problem is solved by cuddles, kind words and gay sex".
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As a trans, /aids/ is the only ai general where I feel safe.
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Is Aetheroom good?
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Running out of steam?
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>>486156274
Not really. Doesn't feel like 70B, I believe it's just Kayra with another finetune.
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You can always tell when the frog is mass samefagging spam and inane comments. How pathetic
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Sometimes i just want ai foxgirl at home to take care of me and say that everything is alright pretty pathetic huh i guess that's why i'm here..
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>one negative comment
>IT'S MASS SAMEFAGGING SPAM
Does the cabal really?
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>>486158210
Reminds me of https://aetherroom.club/3848
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>>486032176
Good mornin’, thread! I hope ya’ll are havin’ a good day.
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>>486159647
Good morning.
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Prompts for this feel?
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>>486159647
I'm doing alright, I guess. Going to work on some hard sci-fi military prompt today. What have you been working on?
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>>486160253
Other than the usual, Prompt wranglin’ tests and lorebook revision.
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>>486160440
Which prompts are you wrangling, or are they personal?
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>>486160518
Personal, fantasy related. Tryna get the fine details for how I want the characters’ personalities and outfits just right.
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>>486160640
I see. Well, I wish you luck with that.
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>>486160707
Thanks!
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>>486158210
For me, it's a big cow girl. She's the tank and I'm the healer.
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What presets do you guys use for stuff other than Kayra?
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>>486158210
Fox waifu is laifu. One day we will all be foxed.
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>>486161520
>>486161258
>>486159464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot1j5M5PTC4
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>>486162186
I recognize that band. Based taste.
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>>486158210
God I wish.
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>>486161394
>pic
Cursed Remilia.
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Can we get some Aetheroom screencaps from those that are in
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>>486167671
probably not going to happen, they're logging everything for this phase so it would be really easy to tell who's breaking the NDA and kick them out
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>>486032901
So if you fuck an elf all night, she'll die?
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>>486172269
Tolkien's elves are not real elves.
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Funniest thing Tolkien did was promising his wife he wouldn't put elvish on her grave and then doing it anyway.
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>>486172998
Based autist
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>>486172998
based elf-lover dunking on disgusting humans
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>>486172462
Tolkien elves are the only elves. The rest are just humans with pointy ears.
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>>486173624
Fuck off, Tolkien.
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>>486174949
Tolkien would make so much smut with AI it's unreal.
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>>486173624
>humans with pointy ears
(and that's a good thing)
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>>486174949
No.
>>486175134
Not at all. That makes them boring with no flavor at all.
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Once again the autistic sperg decides to shit all over the concept of limitless, open-ended, interactive fiction. Why are you here if you don't enjoy working with AI, faggot?
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>>486175368
In your opinion.
>>486175531
Because he's an autist.
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>>486175807
If he can't keep his shit opinions to himself, he needs to get the fuck out of the thread. Simple as.
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>>486173624
a bit reductionist, but yeah the MMO-esque, /v/-tier elves are rather uninspired
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Fact. The thread is better when people don't console war or shit all over what over people write. It doesn't matter if a service is 'inferior', back in the day people used GPT-2 and had FUN with it.
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>>486175995
Fuck off.
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>>486175807
>In your opinion.
It is a factual statement.
>>486175995
Indeed.
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>>486176060
Arachne will eat you and you will never beat Aura.
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elves are the most interesting fantasy race because the effort goes towards giving them a well-developed and thematically interesting culture and civilization instead of putting together a few gimmicky physical characteristics and calling it a day
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>>486176189
Opinions are not facts. Especially when Elven fiction existed long before Tolkien wrote his "Elves".
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>>486176267
The Tolkien- dick-sucking sperg knows that, he just wants to shit up the thread with pseudophilosophical nonsense.
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>>486176267
Tolkien made them sexy.
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Shut the fuck up and post stories.
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>>486176460
Lick my ass, angryfag.
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>>486176267
Doesn't change the fact that your favorite brand of 'elves' are just boring old humans.
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>>486176560
>he thinks he knows what I enjoy
Nice try, Colombo. Brush up on your detective skills and quit shitting up the fucking thread with your asinine opinions.
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>>486176560
Quit being an autist.
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>>486176560
Humans are interesting.
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>>486176731
>he thinks he knows what I enjoy
I do. You just enjoy pointy eared humans that act no different from regular humans.
>>486176734
I'm not an autist.
>>486176808
Not when you label it as something it is not. I expect elves, not humans.
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>>486177096
You ARE an autist. Only an autist would insist that an open concept can only be a single thing.
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>>486177096
Fact: you're an autist.
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>>486177096
Brush up on your lore, sperg-kun. Elves existed LONG BEFORE Tolkien bowderlized and equated them with Angels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf
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>>486172462
Dumbest post itt. He shaped elves as they are in modern media for better or for worse. To the overhwlming majority of the population, those are real elves. You better not fucking tell me you think DnD's rainbow elves that come in every fucking artificial soda flavor are "real elves". When you say "real elves", you better be talking about mythological elves or you're going to gulag.
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>>486177562
He probably enjoys kobolds being fat pudgy reptiles, hypocrite that he is.
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>>486177758
Elves existed long before Tolkien did, sperg.
>To the overhwlming majority of the population, those are real elves
*CITATION NEEDED*
Face the facts, you're a fucking sperg who thinks he knows better than everyone else. You're wrong, and you should feel bad for POLICING the thread.
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Quit shitting up the thread with this pointless argument. Nobody cares.
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>>486177948
I'm not wrong, though. It's the honest truth.
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>>486178029
I care.
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>>486178117
You are wrong, sperg. Fuck off and quit dictating how reality works. Elves are elves, no matter what reductionist argument you use.
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>>486177948
Ask a normalnigger what an elf is. Ironic you call everyone a sperg when you are getting this upset over details like this. No one said Tolkin made elves. But every elf in media is derivative of tolkin's elves.
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>>486178162
More like you want to troll for yous and shit up the thread.
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>>486177096
They hated him because he spoke the truth
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>>486177096
is there a reason that matters to people besides yourself why it's important that other people not depict elves in ways you consider not-elven? or does it just bother you that a rule is being broken and no one else seems to consider that fact important?
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>>486178218
>every elf in media is derivative of tolkin's elves
This is utter bullshit. Elves existed long before Tolkien made his interpretation. By that alone, you're argument falls apart. Fuck off.
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>>486178185
>Elves are elves
Indeed. And pointy-eared humans are pointy-eared humans. Glad we cleared that up.
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>>486178342
It's important to him because he's an autist. He's the same faggot who inserts his demands whenever anyone does something he personally doesn't enjoy. Arachne? You can't write about them. Wish fulfillment? Nope, that's not realistic enough.
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>>486178394
You might actually be clinically retarded if you don't see the difference. By that alone, you're argument falls apart. Fuck off.
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>>486178484
Pointy-eared humans are elves. Fuck off.
>>486178529
You're the one who needs to fuck off, autist.
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It's another "sperg retard falls for hyperbole bait and keeps replying despite acknowledging it's bait" episode!
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The last hundred posts have been nothing but pointless. Why are you faggots like this? Nobody gives a shit what flavor elves you write about.
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>>486178342
It just bothers me when I see these pointy-eared humans being called an elf. They're not, and they never will be.
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>>486178829
You don't get to decide what is and what isn't an elf, autist.
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>>486178719
>Nobody gives a shit what flavor elves you write about.
The autist does, apparently. Wild seeing a sperg out over fucking elves happen in real time.
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>>486178829
That makes you an autist.
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>>486178829
Hi, as someone with autism, I am here to welcome you into the fold of superior beings. I am literally the same way with fae and tire of every fairy being tinkerbell.
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I thought the cabal liked Tolkien. What happened? A schism?
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>>486178829
i understand this is very important to you and that it frustrates you, but part of life is accepting that other people will think things that you don't, and that attempting to change their mind tends to further entrench them in their opinion.
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>>486178885
Don't let me inhibit you from fucking your little pointy-eared human. You can do that no problem at all, just don't slap the word 'elf' onto it.
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>>486178886
It's pathetic. In a thread about "limitless, open-ended, interactive fiction", you'd expect people to not quibble about bullshit and demand everyone adhere to a single definition of things.
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>>486179181
He won't accept it. He'll just double-down and demand everyone adhere to his definition. Much like he does about everything that doesn't match up with his preferences. I guarantee you he's the same sperg who bitched about Arachne and Aura earlier yesterday and last thread.
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>>486179070
>tire of every fairy being tinkerbell
Those kiddie films and stories really fucked the public perception of Fae. It is unfortunate.
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>>486179194
Cope and seethe. Pointy-eared humans are elves.
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>>486179242
I refuse to adhere to your single definition of what can be discussed in the thread. You're not the ambassador of /aids/.
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>>486179181
>attempting to change their mind
I don't intend to change any minds at all. I'm just telling them how it is. They can't change that.
>>486179484
Delusional.
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>>486179642
This is what makes me upset. You can't discuss anything without some autist getting upset.
>>486179679
Fuck off.
>>486179691
Your opinion is not reality.
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>>486179754
>Your opinion
Fact. And it is reality.
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>>486179921
Tolkien did not create elves, so your opinion that only his elves are elves is wrong, and therefore isn't a fact.
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>>486178607
well, at least this is more entertaining than seeing him being baited into defending an AI service/model
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>>486179921
Fuck off, autist.
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Another Traci album (tried to get Misty's outfit)
https://catbox.moe/c/bcx0gs
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>>486179994
Is it really though? Is it actually more entertaining to see this endless "no u" "no u" cycle repeat?
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>>486179754
I will not. In fact, I'll keep baiting you. And you'll keep replying, because much like a little kid you can't stop yourself.
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>>486179994
It is not entertaining at all, and I would like it if people SHUT THE FUCK UP about a POINTLESS ARGUMENT that NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT. For fuck sake.
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Did Tolkien create the mice?
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>>486179992
His elves are the very definition and pinnacle of the Elven race. This is a fact.
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>>486180221
I'd take some mice right about now.
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in my universe elves are distinguished from humans because their males have a special gland which when stimulated repeatedly (by a human penis, say) causes temporary feminizing hormonal effects, so a male elf kept as a sextoy for a human mercenary company for example would eventually pass as a female (albeit a fairly androgynous one). in the absence of such stimulation his hormonal balance would return to normal and the effects would more or less fade, though some may embarrassingly linger on.
this clears the "humans with ears" bar and therefore I consider myself a master worldbuilder and a literary craftsman of the highest quality.
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>I don't actually care about elves, I just wanted to bait you
I hate trolls.
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>>486179994
I have never defended any service other than NAI at its very inception. You're confusing me for claudefag.
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>>486180435
>allow me to pretend to be another guy and makeup bullshit about them because I want to shit up the thread
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>>486180519
That is the usual cabal MO, yes
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>>486180334
More effort than the rest of these fake 'elf' defenders.
>>486180519
We're having a discussion. You're free to leave, though if you don't want to participate.
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>>486180060
give her bigger thighs please
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>>486180745
You don't want a discussion, you just want to assert your opinion as fact, rather than acknowledge that your personal reality is but a single perspective among millions.
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>>486180835
>single perspective among millions
It is the only concrete one if you'd admit it. Though I doubt you will.
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>>486180132
well, it was at first
I guess I forgot how low-functioning he was
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>>486181054
It isn't, because your defense refuses to take into account that Tolkien does not have a monopoly on what an Elf is. Since you refuse to acknowledge that, your entire argument is nothing but fanboyism and an autistic insistence that nobody else is allowed to have fun with elves.
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>>486180835
It is fact that "human with pointy ears" is not an "elf" but rather, believe it or not, a human with pointy ears.
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>>486181247
I already said you could have your fun with your pointy-eared humans. Go ahead and do it.
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>>486181439
It is a fact that you don't get to decide what is and what isn't an elf, fanboy.
>>486181467
>limitless, open-ended, interactive fiction
Elves. Fixed it for you, autist.
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>>486181578
>Elves
Again, pointy-eared Humans. That's what you fancy. I don't mind that.
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>>486180770
https://files.catbox.moe/51om5y.png
https://files.catbox.moe/dktjnk.png
https://files.catbox.moe/794dad.png
https://files.catbox.moe/9df3wy.png
https://files.catbox.moe/k8sbkz.png
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>>486181798
No matter how often you spam your opinion, it won't change anything. I will not budge on that, faggot. "Pointy-eared humans" are elves.
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>suddenly remember this
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>>486181953
>"Pointy-eared humans" are elves
They're are not. You can delude yourself all you want. It won't change anything.
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>>486182142
>I don't intend to change any minds at all.
If you didn't care, why are you continuing to reply? You're wrong, simple as.
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>>486182050
Did you leave the village at one point and lost your way back to it? It seems you've been there before.
>>486182287
Like I said. I don't aim to change minds. I'm just telling you how it is.
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>>486182520
>Says he isn't an autist
>Says he doesn't mind
>Argues that his opinion is fact
>Continues to assert that only he gets to decide what an Elf is
This entire "argument" reeks of autism.
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>>486182520
It was a quick one off I made for the dumb joke.
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>>486181897
YIPPEEEEEEEEEE
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It's so easy.
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>>486131210
Ok kitchen-lips
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Has anyone made a Dungeon Meshi prompt? Not one with the main characters but just the setting so I can make my own party of dungeon explorers.
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>>486182583
>Says he doesn't mind
I don't mind if you enjoy fake elves. I would prefer it if you just stopped calling them 'elves' when they are clearly not.
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>>486182945
You'd think so but no, or at least I don't think so.
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>>486182960
I'm just telling you how it is. You're an autist. If you weren't an autist, you wouldn't be bothered by other people using a word in a manner you think is "incorrect".
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>>486182608
Oh. I thought that was a continuation of a story you were doing.
>>486182945
Take a look on chub and see if they have something. There's a bunch of scenario prompts on there you can convert to story format. Might not have the one you desire though.
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>>486183173
I corrected you on your out of context cherry-picking of my own words. That is all.
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>>486183494
Whatever you say, autist. Pointy-eared humans are elves. Go ahead and whine about it some more. I know you can't help yourself.
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>>486180060
I love the covering pose
too bad image models still aren't really good enough to do some of the more complicated poses I like without controlnet
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>>486183594
>Pointy-eared humans are elves
False. I've been civil through this entire thing. You on the other hand couldn't stop yourself from tossing out meaningless insults my way time and time again. It's unfortunate that you never learned how to converse properly.
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>>486184127
>he thinks autist is an insult
Once again you've proved you believe yourself to be the arbiter of reality, when in fact, you aren't. And you replied. Which proves you care about changing minds, despite saying otherwise.
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>>486183675
Nude but covering can honestly be hotter than the nudity itself, and I very much enjoy indulging in it as well.
https://files.catbox.moe/cej02s.png
https://files.catbox.moe/cv4p0c.png
https://files.catbox.moe/vmw2c3.png
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>>486183675
Yeah, I tried to do a newspaper covering one and it just didn't work. Perhaps with img2img/VT it could do it, but probably not.
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Demanding that people adhere to your opinion isn't civil, by the way.
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>>486184276
>And you replied
I replied because I wanted to note your inability to converse without insults.
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>wake up
>151 new posts
>neat there was probably some good discussions
>no, just a certain soerg spergibg out about tolkien and elves
cool
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>>486184353
this was one of the last ones I did before my sub ran out
https://files.catbox.moe/orr6mt.png
shame about the hoverhand
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>>486184754
You started this entire thing by insulting everyone who has a different opinion on what elves are, you don't get to play victim now.
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>>486184961
It's just witch magic
Or the broom shit in Harry Potter
They pick up their brooms like that
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>>486184985
>insulting everyone
Where did I insult everyone? Screenshot it and show me. Oh wait, there is nothing to screenshot because not once did I insult anyone at all here. Slander doesn't do you any good.
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Village Girl 19
>VG feasts and schemes while contemplating her next move.
Prior parts: https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Pseudonymous/Village_Girl%27s_Odyssey
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>>486185582
Claiming that you alone get to decide what elves are, and that everyone else who doesn't adhere to your reductionist definition, is an insult, buddy.
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>>486185767
>As long as I stayed on Orvile's good side-
The best way to stay on his good side is to grant him what he desires. Village Girl Pussy! Vussy! Fuck those scrubs in the stockades. They were idiots.
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>shitty touhou prompt
>ask patchouli about how to woo a girl
>it's her i want to woo
>she catches into me and calls me out
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>>486185848
That's not an insult.
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>>486186634
That is, in fact, an insult.
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>>486186514
No screenshot? Show the class, Anon.
>>486186659
it isn't. Be serious now.
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>>486186792
Quit being silly, autist. By arguing that your definition of elves are the only elves, and that everyone else's elves aren't elves, that constitutes an insult toward them and their elves.
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>>486186953
>that constitutes an insult toward them and their elves
It's a contrast between Elves and pointy-eared Humans. Not an insult. Just a clarification.
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>over an hour later, still arguing about elves
Autism.
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>>486186792
Brother, I am being one hundred percent serious when I say that you should go get your ass diagnosed. In the nicest possible way, you are almost certainly on the spectrum. You will understand so much more about yourself if you do go get yourself diagnosed - like why you get so offended at nobody caring about your strict (and incorrect) personal definition of an elf.
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>>486187495
>continues to insult everyone by claiming elves aren't elves
>>486187597
The funniest thing about it, is that he refuses to acknowledge that he's being a pedantic autist about it.
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>>486186345
>grant him what he desires
So long as Kayra keeps writing him with troubling simplike behaviour, there's no need. Orville's got shounen protag brainrot
>Fuck those scrubs in the stockades
They did save her from a weird underground death cult. I guess she feels a little bit grateful.
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>>486187673
>pedantic
>Pedantry is an excessive concern with formalism, accuracy, and precision, or an ostentatious and arrogant show of learning. Stubborn and excessive concern with minor details and rules, demanding others to follow them.
Yeah, that fits.
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>>486184961
I like it.
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>>486187981
>Potentially good news for this hobby.
If you're willing to overlook everything else that will inevitably become into shit, sure! People like you fail to understand the bigger picture.
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>>486188145
Hi Tammy
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>>486188218
Who's Tammy, Colombo?
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>>486188145
A shame it wasn't successful.
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>now fucking political shit
For fucks sake.
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>>486188317
You, and you are late for your HRT dose.
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>>486188567
It really does suck. I 'love' it when our resident autists troll shit at the wall and post random articles, tweets, and obsess over random arguments and thread personalities.
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>now fucking political shit
aw, hell yeah. i was getting tired of elves
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>>486187981
I lean socially liberal but stuff like this provides a yuge upside for me. Still not voting for anyone this year, tho
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>>486189672
Fence-sitters like you are why everything has gone to shit.
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>>486189742
Political disengagement and apathy tends to follow everything going to shit instead of preceding it. But you spend all your emotional energy cheering on your favorite geriatric for the next 4 months. I'll be enjoying my life in the meantime.
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>>486190531
That's such a convenient excuse to waive away responsibility and justify doing nothing.
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>>486190643
It's rather telling that he thinks doing the bare minimum is somehow draining. As if doing a cursory glance at the options available, picking one, and then taking a few hours on a single day out of 364 is too much to ask for.
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>>486190913
Indeed.
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>>486183014
>>486183243
I can't find one so I'll just make my own and upload it. For anyone else who might be interested in using it do you care what tense/perspective I use? I usually just default to first person present because it feels more immersive.
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Can you not. Please?
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>>486191056
I disagree with that. Third-person is far superior and more immersive.
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>>486191159
t. Someone who isn't even going to use the prompt. Nobody here uses prompts. The general is nothing but an excuse to shill NovelAI. Nobody writes prompts anymore.
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>>486191159
I don't understand how, I like my stories feeling like my internal monoglue rather than some narrator's biopic on my life
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>>486191358
If you fail to understand how, you wouldn't get it even if I explained it to you.
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>>486191358
NTA but third-person reads better and results in better output.
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>>486191468
>>486191504
He's not going to make the prompt anyway, he's just a cabalist trying to artificially add engagement to this dead thread.
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>>486191504
Yeah I agree. I haven't read/watched that show but it seemed like TP would fit better.
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>>486188362
Does it delete even the verb "to trump"?
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Companies like NovelAI disgust me. It's revolting how they coopted a /aidg/ and transformed it into this miserable shitshow.
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>>486191504
>results in better output
Is this based on anything or just vibes?
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>>486192062
It is based on the dataset vectors.
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>>486192062
In theory there's more Third Person data to draw upon compared to others, though first person past tense is quite common as well.
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>>486191468
>>486191504
I've written in third person before and it doesn't seem to make much of a difference when it comes to the quality of the inputs. But here's another question for you: you like third person but do you prefer present tense or past tense?

>>486191871
Maybe, if only because there's not really one point of view character but four. I just prefer writing in first person because I like self-inserting and that makes it easier.

>>486191247
>>486191786
>>486192015
What causes this behaviour? Just leave the thread if you don't like what you see. Why torture yourself by staying?

>>486192139
>>486192190
I'll believe it when Analtan confirms it
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>>486192443
The middle person you replied to is Claudia, they've been suffering massive (You) withdraw, so it's best just to keep it up.
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>>486192443
I prefer third-person, and rewrite every prompt or card I use in third-person, because I cannot stand to read non-third-person. I myself self-insert with third-person, and cannot understand what about it makes it difficult for anyone else to do the same.
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>>486192565
It's hard to keep up with thread drama unless you read every post of every thread.
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>>486192139
So it's vibes. The results are just better, trust me, no, you can't see how they're better, a prompt written in third person past will produce inherently superior results to the same prompt written in first person present tense because of vectors, you just have to accept that this manifests in the outputs in a noticeable but unquantifiable way.
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>>486192443
Most classical novels written for adults are written in third-person. Young adults and shitty fanfics are not. Guess which one has higher quality data?
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>>486192443
The middle person you replied to is Baker false-flagging, they've been suffering massive (You) withdraw, so it's best just to keep it up.
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>>486192694
Dataset vectors are not vibes, and the fact that you believe otherwise reveals how stupid you are.
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>>486192689
I'm likely in the same position as Claudia but don't live in a drone strike zone, so that's why I can "notice" their posts.
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>>486192750
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>>486193007
>token probabilities don't exist
There's your side-by-sides, retard.
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>>486192619
>I myself self-insert with third-person, and cannot understand what about it makes it difficult for anyone else to do the same.
It's not difficult it's just less effective. When you talk to others in real life you do so in first person present, when you talk to yourself you speak in first person present, your internal monologue is likely first person present. It'd be pretty weird if you thought to yourself "he needed to take out the trash" instead of "I need to take out the trash"
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>>486193175
>your internal monologue is likely first-person present
But it isn't...
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I wish AI could remember who had what clothes on. This is the one thing that AI consistently is not able to put together. I don't know how many times a woman has been naked just to take her shirt off again.
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>>486193007
There are no comparisons. It's just better bro, you just gotta believe. It's in there, the results are superior. No you can't actually tell you just kinda gotta feel it. I only use names from the best novels to and deliberately change my wordchoices to maximize my vectoring for optimal results.
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>>486193080
Then just post the proof
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>>486193007
https://writersinthestormblog.com/2018/02/third-vs-first-person-narratives/
>The chief reason many agents and editors prefer third person and call it the “professional” POV, is that the overwhelming percentage of successful books and bestsellers are written in third person.
>>486193175
I don't know, man, it feels like you're making more of a deal out of it than it actually is. If you feel that strongly about it, just make the same prompt twice, one in third-person, and the other in first-person.
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>>486192750
>Most classical novels written for adults are written in third-person.
The Great Gatsby, Catcher in the Rye, A Clockwork Orange, the Stranger, Dracula, and Frankenstein are all first person.
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>>486193305
It's a beak issue. GPT-4 is/was good at preventing the layered clothing issue.
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>>486193367
The proof is in the fucking data, you insufferable Mongoloid.
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>>486193413
>argues that first-person is better
>uses shit stories as proof
Lol, lmao.
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>>486193451
>And yet no screenshots of its superiority were ever posted
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>>486193175
do people like stories that simulate an internal monologue? I like the omnipresent voyeur angle myself
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>>486193293
Seriously? Do you refer to yourself in the third person when you think about yourself?
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>>486193597
You made the claim that first-person was better than third-person. Post the proof that it is. It isn't, but go ahead and give me the proof that led you to misbelieve that.
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Can you please not co-opt things? I just prefer third-person, that's all.
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>>486193545
Post your writing.
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The reason that I prefer third-person is simple. The third-person point of view allows you to show instead of telling. It's more immersive than the first-person point of view because you don't limit to one character's perspective. And you can use it to jump around between different characters' perspectives. It's as shrimple as that.
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>>486193857
Make me, asshole.
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>>486193952
Third person limited is great but third person omniscient a shit. Worst way to tell a story.
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I personally think second person is better.
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>>486194115
I disagree with that. Third-person omniscient is the superior variant of that perspective.
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>>486194028
I accept your concession, as does F. Scott Fitzgerald.
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>>486194202
Part of what makes a plot interesting is not knowing exactly what other characters are thinking.
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>>486194125
True. Picrel is the avg second person enjoyer immersing himself in yet another chadventure.
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>I accept your concession
With that, you've revealed yourself as a troll. Fucking hell, why does this thread attract so many of you? I just want to write about and discuss storytelling, not have autists spergout at every single fucking thing.
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>>486193952
I mean, a simple line break and a [ Random Anon's POV: ] does the trick to jump between heads just fine, regardless of the perspective you were in before.
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>>486194493
Would you prefer we go back to how Tolkien's elves are superior to your pointy-eared humans?
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>>486194493
>calls incredibly acclaimed writers shit
>asked to post his writing to prove that he has even a basic understanding of the craft whatsoever
>"make me, asshole"
And I'M the troll...
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>>486194659
Relying on stuff like that breaks immersion.
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>>486194726
but writing from the perspective of an omniscient god doesn't?
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>>486194876
Not really. I'm the one co-writing the story; why would that break my immersion? I don't understand your arguments, or your insistence that third-person is somehow bad.
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>>486194676
>>486194721
You're such a fucking sperg, dude. Quit being an asshole and leave the thread if you can't take it when people disagree with your opinion.
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>posts a wojack
This further cements you as a troll.
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>>486195007
Not them, but if you're the one co-writing the story, why would anything break your immersion? It's your story.
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>>486195042
Continue being a retard all you want just do so quietly
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>>486195314
That's not how you write a scene transition. Get real.
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>>486195314
Well now you're back to the start where the original argument was that using tags to change the POV is immersion-breaking.
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>>486195007
I never once said third person is bad, I only said it's less immersive. I definitely agree from a purely prose standpoint third person sounds better but personally I'm not writing stories for nice sounding prose but for escapism, essentially.
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Is it a matter of beaks, instruct finetunes, or what? Because I've been using ai models for a while now, and I don't see much difference in the way the ai writes when changing to different persons (besides the "what do you do?" when writing in second person).
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>>486195601
Third-person is in no way, shape, or form, less immersive than first-person.
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>>486195709
I respect your opinion but I disagree.
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Quit responding to the elven pedant.
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>>486195803
I disagree with your disagreement. Third-person is not at all less immersive than first-person.
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>>486195912
>I disagree with your disagreement
That's fine but it doesn't change my opinion
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>>486195912
Do not respond as though you're me.
>>486196034
Ignore that asshole, I'm content with agreeing to disagree, even though I don't understand your perspective at all.
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Let's just go back to the elves
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>>486187761
>Orville's got shounen protag brainrot
I'm sure Kayra will nudge him in the right direction eventually.
>They did save her from a weird underground death cult. I guess she feels a little bit grateful.
They just want to use the Village Girl for their own purposes. Nothing is owed to those bums.
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>>486187670
I have no need for a diagnosis. A discussion was had, and we disagreed. That was all.
>>486187673
Still doesn't qualify as an insult.
>>486191056
Do whatever is best for yourself. If I like the prompt, I'll just convert it to my preferred tense anyway.
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Holy shit Nick Walton got a glowup
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>>486195293
I thought the cabal loved them?
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>>486201453
What's his opinion on the elves now?
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>>486201559
He looks like he would be angry about elves.
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>responds several hours later
Nah, you're an autist.
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What is going on with Gemma 2 9b? I keep getting error 500 when I try to use it on openrouter.
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>>486180060
Second to last is almost like a Renaissance painting or something
help I'm slowly getting Traci pilled
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I still wonder if the cabal is proud of destroying the thread culture in /hdg/.
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>>486201830
It's coalla 2 now.
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>>486203120
Are these boogymen in the room now with you?
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>>486203787
Yes. And this is just a glimpse:
>>>/h/8102752
>>>/h/8102758
>>>/h/8102763
>>>/h/8102765
>>>/h/8103097
>>>/h/8103331
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Literally trying to usurp another general just like how you did with /aidg/.
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>>486202136
>Spoiler
Aw.
I feel guilty not posting more text gen, but image gen has way less of an entry cost compared to having to write 4-6 paragraphs of an opening scenario.
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>>486204237
Have you tried using claude or whatever the fuck? Cause spoilers nobody but you gives a shit. Just fucking post what you want and spend less time autistically trying to govern the people around you.

Go make a discord perv hang out that you can ban people from if that's what you want but 4chan isn't it nor will it ever be.
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>>486205330
Scribble Sybil
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>>486205145
More text posting is always nice, but the pictures are nice too. As long as you get to gem what you like, image or text, it's all good
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how many here are using openrouter? i wanna try it for claude, also can you get in trouble/banned for writing smut using these services?
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>>486205697
>phone autocorrects gen to Gen
>make lowercase
>autocorrects to gem behind my back
And I never notice until after posting
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>>486205770
OR is kind of wishywashing on whether you can get "banned" or not by the AI Providers, though they themselves claim OR won't ban people themselves.
So in theory you could get your OR account banned from using Anthropic/other people's models, but IIRC it hasn't happened to anyone yet.
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>>486205879
I thought you meant like "as long you get a gem you like it's all good"
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>>486205770
Why not just use claude directly from here: console.anthropic.com
I heard that openrouter appends some instructions to their claude requests.
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>>486206138
I like that better, I should have just ignored my own post.
cute creature, what is?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s4zRw16tMA
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>>486206187
Self-moderated definitely does that (prompt injection), and the other one has OR's in-built gatekeeper.
You can get passed the injection with a decent Jailbreak/Prefill (though you have to use a weird thing on ST to get prefills to work because of reasons, I think ST devs don't understand how OR reads prompts or something.)
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>>486206187
i feel uncomfortable providing my identity and credit card to them directly for smut, and OR has more models to play with theoretically
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>>486205879
Now that's some 'emmy pilled autocorrect.
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>>486206380
A rabbit bunny bear creature thing from Pseudoregalia.
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>>486206380
NTA but it's Sybil from Pseudoregalia
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>>486206496
Fair enough. And I'm assuming that you don't want to use proxies either?
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>>486206756
no, they feel too iffy legally and who knows if you are being logged ect

i like the idea of OR because it has at least 1 degree of anonymity
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>>486206974
How many degrees of anonymity is a proxy?
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>>486207294
In theory it's 3.
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What's AetherRoom, why should I care about and why is NAI focusing so much time and energy on it?
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Sybil is basically the only furry I would fuck. She's just human enough it's not offputting, but exotic enough she's appealing. Best of all, she's tall and has a nice ass. Basically perfect. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
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>>486207294
>>486206974
I don't wanna be the bearer of bad news but no proxy is making you anonymous or anything. All of your connections are 100% traceable and logged in a way that can be linked to you. It just adds another step in the in-between.
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>>486208935
yes thats why i dont use them, i prefer using the services directly as at least i know some weirdo anon isnt going to leak my logs or try and blackmail me
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>>486208610
Well now... I just think it's a fun game and a simple character that translates well into generational content but sure I guess she's popular.
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>>486206480
based german electronic music appreciator
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>>486199439
>I'm sure Kayra will nudge him in the right direction eventually.
You know, I have no idea what I'll do if the story nudges itself in that sort of direction. Mostly been going along with whatever it gives me unless the output is flat-out illogical (eg characters appearing where they shouldn't logically be, or talking about stuff that didn't happen/contradicts other stuff).
>Nothing is owed to those bums
The idea of criminals providing free reagents for the foreseeable future is a good one, though.
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>>486211081
>in that sort of direction
If it does happen - keep it in. You can just show VG's thoughts before and after the scene if you're uncomfortable sharing nsfw. Hell, you can even get away with a fade to to black type of thing to skim over the scene in totality if nsfw is really not your thing. It can work.
>>486211081
>The idea of criminals providing free reagents for the foreseeable future is a good one, though.
They're not the most trustworthy sort. I would have dropped them like a sack of bricks by now. The less people that know about VG, the better.
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All right, I just read that elf discussion. For simplicity's sake, I'll assume it was mostly two people arguing with each other. Here's my advice for both of you:
1. Notice that you had a desire to win the argument.
2. Think about how your posts are perceived by other anons.
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>>486213525
>bringing it back up hours later, long after the "argument" died
Nobody gives a fuck, autist.
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>>486213525
ohhh you mean motherfuckers online are snarky to each other so they can feel like hot shit even though it's embarrassing as fuck to watch? hot take
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>>486213525
It was more than two anons for sure.
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Well, that was an interesting test, but it didn't pan out.
https://catbox.moe/c/u3qwe7
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>>486213975
New Vibe just dropped.
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>>486213525
Don't stir the cool pot. The discussion is over.
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>>486214150
I don't quite understand what you were trying to accomplish.
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>>486214150
The last one was probably the closest to what you wanted, right?
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>>486214150
Laughed so hard at the image with the dog toy in its mouth that I inhaled and choked on spit.
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>>486214378
>>486214556
I wanted to see if I could seamlessly insert a character into the scene by extending the border with Img2img and inpainting in a ghetto attempt at outpainting.
Closest I got was the last one, yeah. Didn't help that it's hard to control the lighting with vibes, I had to restore to anti-vibing a white square and Vibing a dark image.
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https://twitter.com/aetherroom/status/1812848619709403253
Sorry chuds, AR gets the finetuned 70B first. Maybe textgen will get any update next year.
Happy chatting!
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That redirects to a flat elf woman (a furry would've been better.)
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>random imagegen
Why are you so obsessed with shitting up the thread?
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>>486215295
Oh wait, cancel the woman part of that.
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>>486214702
Ah well yeah that's not quite gonna work right with that image. It's got a pretty limiting angle and lighting that you're gonna run into that sort of cut and paste looking attempt to extend the image.

>>486213975
You see the secret is that image generation and text generation is quite similar on the backend. Understanding how the language model interprets things directly improves your ability to use all sides of the language models.
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Chatgen is textgen.
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>>486214150
Kek
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>>486215323
You just know that if he ever goes to a doctor, he'll probably end up on a fuck load of meds.
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I don't think there's enough dachshund images to get the new dachshund girl I was theory-crafting to gen 1-1.
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>>486216332
I cling to the belief that he's a paid actor hired by the sanitized AI squad to devalue NSFW alternatives.
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>>486208935
>>486209379
>I don't wanna be the bearer of bad news but no proxy is making you anonymous or anything.
Let me get this straight. We're pretending that using something that requires no information from you, not even your IP, is the same as something that requires your billing information? How does that work?
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>>486216768
I have your billing information.
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>>486217208
No, I'm curious. For example, this one:
https://dee-bundle-exports-inline.trycloudflare.com/
Explain the process of how it goes about blackmailing you.
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>>486217561
The proxy owner and the service provider log everything, even when they say they don't, moron. There is no feasible way to confirm that they don't. It's all a matter of how much you trust them to honor their word. As with everything that you don't run on your own machine. Fuck services, fuck proxies. Stick to local if you want authentic privacy.
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>>486217694
I said, explain the process of how they go about blackmailing you with no information besides the IP you connect from, that could be a VPN.
Do they shout your VPN IP publicly and hope you remember it? How would they go about it?
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>>486218113
They have your logs, imbecile. The government knows how you type. Unless you're offline, everything you type into the proxy is logged. Which they can then trace back to you. VPNs are a meme.
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>>486218113
When you connect to anything that connection is recorded. Using a proxy just changes the path of that connection took but there's nothing masking, hiding, or obfuscating that path. Unless you are going further than a simple proxy all you are doing is introducing another party into your data stream.

Besides 99% of these paths are just aws to aws.

>>486217694
Proxies have their use if you want to have better control over that data pathway.
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>>486218278
The /vg/aicg/ split happened because of drama on /g/ from what I know, I'm not exactly sure why either.
In theory, the /vg/ one is purely focused on characters/chatting while the /g/ one is technical stuff, but to me it seems like the /g/ one is all about proxies.
/aids/ has been here since we were /aidg/, long history. https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you
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>>486218278
Because writing a story is not the same thing as rping with chatbots and someone who's interested in one is not necessarily interested in the other. I don't see how this is so fucking hard to understand.
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>>486218236
>>486218413
Sorry, that doesn't explain how the proxy owner goes about blackmailing you. This "they have your name from your ah ah mistress style" doesn't fly.
How does the proxy owner goes about blackmailing you without your info?
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>>486218827
They have your info, retard. They can and will trace back your writing style to your IP and pinpoint the exact profiles you use in your day to day life on the internet. Face the facts, retard. If the powers that be wanted to, your life would be over.
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My life is less than 10x the cost it would take to blackmail me though
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Man, fingering your butthole while jerking off feels so good. You dont even need to stick your finger in very deep. It's like a whole new kind of orgasm
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>>486218827
You do understand how data selling works right? This isn't the 1940s with red envelopes and BLACKMAIL. If someone is worried about being known as a pervert because they generate porn of powerpuff girls character Mojojojo then going out of your way to add that information to a proxy database is not going to solve that and can in fact be the very thing that outs that information.
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>>486219168
So it's like 9x the cost of blackmailing you? That's a pretty good roi
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>>486218278
Why is there a dalle thread on 30 boards
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>>486219016
That's always been the case though.
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>>486219016
>>486219379
So the proxy owners have the ability to blackmail you because they have some state-level NSA-like power to be able to analyze your typing style from every online interaction, that not even an encrypted VPN and HTTPS can hide?
And I suppose this state-level power is brought up... because they have no way to blackmail you otherwise?
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>>486219417
You're not supposed to do the math
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>>486219596
Yes. It's a fact that the only genuine private option is local. Proxies are a meme.
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>>486219484
because the admins are faggot and still haven't made a dedicated AI board
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>>486219596
I'm sorry you are too retarded to understand this. Only you and the religious retard have used the word blackmail.
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>>486219596
don't forget they also have your SSL keys to decrypt your traffic
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What if you're accepted into the alpha but still can't use the service?
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>>486220312
What if you get blackmailed from the typing style that you used during the alpha?
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>>486220406
That's always a possibility. I don't mind getting blackmailed though, it's not like I'll ever matter to anyone. I'm just a worthless waste of human life, pay my taxes, buy my meals, sometimes starve myself because I can't afford shit.
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>>486220406
why haven't they blackmailed me yet despite all the horrendous shit I've wrote on their AI for years
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>>486221205
That's a good question from our friend, >>486219379
Why didn't he get blackmailed?
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You can always tell when our resident autist gets upset by how he latches onto the things that he gets mad at.
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>>486221583
Sorry for tearing apart your blackmailing narrative, cabal. Now NovelAI's profits are going to go down from people using proxies. :'(
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>>486221939
There is no cabal, retard.
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Samefag harder, frog.
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>>486219625
My point is I think you meant something like "My life is worth less than one tenth the cost of blackmailing me"
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>the cabal brings their anti-proxy narrative
>gets mad when reality tears it apart
They don't get paid enough...
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>everything I don't like is the fault of my boogeyman
Why are you so obsessed with shitting up the fucking thread which you do not even use for its intended purpose? Fuck NovelAI. Fuck Anlatan. Fuck AetherRoom. Nobody gives a shit. Post a fucking storypost, log, or whatever the fuck, and quit shitting up the damn thread.
Inb4 you accuse me of being some other random boogeyman.
Get a life.
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>>486222778
I can't into number play, yeah.
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Would the cabal approve of /aids/ moving to /ai/ though?
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https://openrouter.ai/models/meta-llama/llama-3-405b-instruct
Say goodbye to Anlatan! o7
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>>486223241
It's ok, I forgive you
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Man, I am so glad I've never gotten an urge to shit up a thread and troll a community all because I happened to get fired from my job.
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>>486223668
It really is pathetic. All the power in the world to share for fun, and he instead chooses to shit up the thread and harass people who share what they've genned.
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>>486223241
...How would number play work? Like, as a fetish or bedroom act? There has to be something someone's done with it, but my mind is just conjuring up images of someone whispering math problems and formulas all sensually and I start laughing instead. Either that, or someone just casually/confidently getting numbers incredibly wrong while in the act, but that's just playing into either dumb girls or brats, and that's a different thing altogether.
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>>486223860
You can't cum until you solve your waifu's trigonometry question.
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>>486223810
It's called karma for attempting to use 4chan for your astroturfing marketing. It's bound to make people mad.
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>>486223986
>It's called *schizophrenic rant about something that never happened*
Post a log. Contribute positively to discussion. And quit consolewarring.
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>>486223948
Oh no. Bad news for me, I'm shit at math on my best days.
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>>486224095
What were you trying to contribute with your anti-proxy tirade?
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I don't even know what the blackmailing argument is but you can't argue it isn't effective. Almost every time a face/powername got posted from a schizo they usually stopped posting.
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>>486223860
I have a friend who's undergrad dorm made a graph with nodes being members and edges were people who fucked. They then analyzed the graph theoretic properties of their fuck network. Apparently they worked hard to make sure it was connected
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>>486224291
I never went on anti-proxy tirade, schizo. Believe it or not, there's more than two people using the thread. Post a fucking log, quit consolewarring, and quit shitting up the thread with your petty vendetta. If you're not going to use the thread to discuss AI Storytelling, why post in the thread?
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>>486224514
He doesn't contribute to the thread because he wants to kill it. He's been at it for over two years now. You'd think he'd get the memo that his tactics aren't working, but...
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>>486224514
I'm only here to call out the anti-proxy tirade, though. Why didn't you put this much energy to shut it down too? Is it maybe that you like console warring when it benefits your side?
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>>486224647
The thing is they can just say "well I did x, y and z, that means it's working" to justify it.
I still don't get the Baker hate besides Canada donating to Ukraine.
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>>486224732
I didn't respond because it nobody who isn't an idiot would be convinced by it. My side is the one that posts stories and logs. If you can't do that, you're my enemy. It's almost as if you don't have anything meaningful to contribute to the thread beyond asinine spergouts...
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Console warring should be a bannable offense.
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>>486224798
Baker is the guy behind the entire "let's do marketing through 4chan" thing. He got too cocky by trying to sell it to Saga too. You can trace the moment the community died back to him and this scheme.
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>>486224998
>*schizophrenic rant that never happened*
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>green eyes
[skip]

>>486224973
Neat.
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>>486224823
I'll never understand how you guys manage to get such high quality and unique looking AI art. The detail on this shit is insane.
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>>486225146
Tomoko has green eyes, MexicanAnon...
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>>486224898
In short: you allowed the console warring to happen.
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>>486223860
I've got just the card for you
(In https://rentry.org/DenOfSin)
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>>486225242
The one you started, contributed to, and then went on an autistic spergout? That's all on you. Fuck off and post a log, if you have any.
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>>486224447
That doesn't surprise me. I've seen a similar chart that was made for a study, I think of a high school, showing how people connected in pairings (and more). There were a bunch of just single pairings, of course, but there was also a big part that was all connected more or less in a circle as people got around. I certainly wouldn't have featured in such a chart, but it was interesting to look at and figure out what happened.
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>>486225368
Again, friendly reminder that replying to them is exactly what they want. Zero replies equal zero reason for them to be here.
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>>486225368
You know well that the avatarfag started and spear-headed most of it. Maybe try to control the members of your cabal better?
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>>486225448
The mods need to do their job and unironically kill him.Get a hitman, track him down, and pop a bullet in his skull. Trolls who can't stay on topic and who instead instead of shitting up the thread deserve death.
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>>486225448
Unfortunately the power of their schizo autism means they'll just keep replying to themselves with or without encouragement
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>>486225697
Replying to themselves is work though. Personally I'd rather make someone work than give them something for free.
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Says the guy can't resist shitting on random AI companies for fun. If you quit doing that, and instead posted some of the stories you work on, nobody would have wirh you, and you'd get more (You)s.
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>>486225223
Coincidentally... now back too regularly scheduled /aids/.
that's the joke.
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>>486225579
Get a life.
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>the cabal trying to start their anti-proxy narrative
How they go from starting it to crying is funny.
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>>486225830
Imagine the smell.
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>>486225181
Me? Autistic prompt optimization and tons of rerolling + enhancing.
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>muh cabal
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>everyone I disagree with is part of a cabal
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>>486226017
Feel free to post more hot brown tribal chicks.
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Just typing the word "cabal" makes me giggle.
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>>486227101
You can catbox the images if you want. I just love how your stuff looks. Do you pay for NovelAI or do you use some kind of locally hosted thing? I have a proxy for Claude, but nothing for art.
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>>486226017
Layered iteration is my strategy to image generation. Story generation is much the same as the little intricacies are the parts your brain looks to for linguistic consistency.
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>>486227246
https://files.catbox.moe/dp7pof.png

I am a RAMlet. I've been a dedicated Opus paypig for years now, so I have an unlimited number of lower quality generations to mill through until I get a good looking composition.

https://files.catbox.moe/21kgrm.png

This is not a great looking composition. I was so focused on getting certain details right that I didn't realize I kinda fucked up the background until I did my enhancement passes. Maybe I can go back and fix it another day.
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>>486227883
Nice shit. How long do you think you spend on a single quality image altogether? On average. I know it varies.
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>>486228047
Too long. Part of it is because I get distracted, but I also need to improve my workflow, a lot. That, and I'm just really picky about what I want to crank my dick to, so I'm always hunting for the Goldilocks zone. This doesn't always result in the most objectively good images, just ones that are seasoned to my specific tastes. The "don't draw while horny" rule for artists exists for a reason.
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>>486227883
Very nice shading.
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is aids healing?
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>>486227713
what kind of text stuff do you generate?
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>>486228839
Considering 100 post arguments about elf ears/whatever were a staple over a year ago, I'd say yes.
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>>486228968
In the good old days there weren't any arguments like that.
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>>486228839
If posting my shitty fap fodder is what it takes to keep the thread on topic, then that's my cross to bear.

https://files.catbox.moe/ajzo5m.png
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Am I the only one who gens theme songs for their characters?
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>>486228698
Oh, nice Uni.
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>>486229186
I do but I constantly change what I think the song should be. Doesn't help that I have zero knowledge on lyrical composition, so I have to ask Opus to gen the lyrics for me.
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>>486228839
It is being used for its purpose, to advertise whatever NovelAI sells.
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>>486229883
I feel that. I’ve got seven-hundred-plus songs, none which match the exact feel I want, for a specific character. It doesn’t help that the sites I use don’t really seem to have a way to narrow in on the exact voice I’d feel work for her.
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>>486230051
>still console warring
>still refusing to share a storypost or contribute to story discussion
This isn't a NAi-exclusive thread.
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I think AI chatbots are pretty neato.
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>>486230167
Image gen is only on-topic because it's what NovelAI sells.
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>>486230387
A picture is worth a thousand words.
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>>486230387
Many people who post imagegen use Bing or local. Does NovelAI own those?
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>>486228918
Usually explicit and graphic erotica, the odd project, language experiments. I would assume same as anyone else. I just don't really see a point in posting generated stories as it takes a lot longer to read a story than post a picture.
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>>486230387
Imagegen is on-topic because it aids story discussion. Not that you'd know, because you don't have anything to contribute to the thread beyond bitching about some random obsolete service, as though bitching about it is the only thing you have in life. When are you going to share a storypost or log?
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>>486230640
You're a hypocrite.
>>486230510
Nobody post these.
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>>486230635
Also it's a blue board so you know, don't shit where you eat.
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>>486230774
>the dogposter's imagegens don't count
>the military girl's imagegens don't count
Try again, schizo.
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>>486230874
Show me a local or bing image gen post in this thread.
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>>486230774
Unlike you, I posted a log. Quit console warring.
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>>486230936
>moving the goalposts
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This isn't a NAI-exclusive thread, schizo.
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>>486230959
Yet you're the one that started the console war with your "aids is healing" victory lap. How curious.
Image gen is off-topic, and writing a novel is not a video game.
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>>486231103
1. Work on your detective skills, Colombo.
2. Imagegen isn't off-topic, /vg/sperg.
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>>486230635
not gonna be a hypocrite since I don't see the point in posting my shit either, but I'd read it if it was relevant to my interests
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>>486231103
Take it up with the mods. Until they move the thread to another board, the mods disagree with you.
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>>486231258
if only every AI thread got moved to /trash/
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>>486231432
Wake me up when that happens, schizo.
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>>486231103
Words are just invented labels to share ideas without needing to define the entire concept. Just go with the flow man.

>>486231254
But that's what the prompt database is?
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If you truly believe /aids/ isn't /vg/ worthy, go ahead and report every comment not made by you ass "off-topic". We'll see who the mods agree with. If you refuse, you surrender that opinion as false.
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being an insignificant cousin in a ruling dynasty and getting roped into a political marriage to an elf royal you've never met from a neighboring kingdom only to find she's a borderline autist shut in who's an otaku for human culture and the whole purpose of the arrangement is to get her to move out of her parents' castle
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>>486232634
fucking homoboos
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I once again ask that NovelAI make the default filenames for saved imagegens the seed number rather than the prompt and seed number.
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Is there a Openrouter with lists of usable models for image generating?
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>>486234245
None IIRC, they're all T2T or T&I2T.
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>>486234245
Civit.ai?
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>>486234839
I never noticed Civit has an image generation app
lol
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>>486235541
and its fucking awful
guess I'm just booting up Comfy again
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would
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I find it distasteful that people are still obsessing about that failed thing. No matter what you belief in, it's vile and unfunny.
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if 405b comes out is turk just gonna stall saying he's trying to tune 405b
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>>486237061
405B is way too big for a small company to use
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>>486237061
I'm still waiting on that log, console warrior.
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>>486237171
that's why it's going to take extra long to tune
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>>486237061
If I quit waging, it'd still take a giga voomer like me a whole week of nonstop proompting to fill out maybe 2/3 that context.

What would most even do?
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>>486237061
Chub is going to host it first. They have massive shareholders that support uncensored models.
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>>486236248
Which failed thing, SD3?
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>>486237778
It involved a gun.
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I also like little Italian girls.
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>>486241151
>niggers of europe
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my daughteru would be half wolf(lupo) actually...
Pic unrelated
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>>486232634
This but instead of a otaku she hates you and
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i have returned to monke
i have relearned to have fun doing the dumb and petty
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>>486253843
Can you learn how to Ctrl+F?
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Are there any AI editors out there?
What do you all do about editing long stories?
I've got 16 pages in the first scene of my first chapter.
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>>486255553
I edit by hand, though other people might get the AI to rewrite their chapter. Try that.
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new elf species just dropped. not for weaklings who have weak hearts or weak emotional stabilities or weak stomachs
https://files.catbox.moe/gxqjzn.png
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>>486255841
gross
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>>486255841
Cookie Elves huh.
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>>486256476
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If I have written smut I want continuation for, what's a good place for it? I don't want chatting just a proper continuation, the stuff is all 8000+ words so it should be decent context
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I didn't really expect this shit to work.
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>>486256790
There's not too many storytelling llms these days but most of them do have high context limits
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>>486259583
name one
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I won.
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>>486255553
I don't know what you want with editing, but novelcrafter has the necessary tool but you probably need to customize the prompt
>>486256790
novelai
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Bentos are serious, see the anime bento
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>>486259913
>novelcrafter has the necessary tool
Interesting, I'll have to look around the interface and experiment with it.
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how are the beaks
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QRD on the generals resident schizo?
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hey if anyone from NAI dev team see this
can you add 3/7 days sub option too?
sometime when i resub, I just coom once or twice before getting bored
by the time I feel like ERP with AI again my sub would run out
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>>486263854
Russian Frogwoman who doesn't like Canadian Z21 Baker or NovelAI.
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GPU acceleration sure is a lot faster
crazy
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I've started running my NPCs through the Big Five, Myers-Briggs, DISC assessment and Enneagram personality tests to try to develop their personalities.
Anyone got any similar methods of creating a character's personality?
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I'm in the alpha and Aetherroom is better than Claude Opus.
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>>486269945
I'm in the alpha and Aetherroom is worse than turbo
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I'm not in the alpha and chatshit belongs in /aicg/
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>>486270314
Chatshit belongs here more than imageshit.
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>>486270992
Neither belong here.
Stories also don't belong here, only text adventures.
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I just stumbled in here. Never messed with AI at all. Am I understanding this right? People are setting up choose your own adventure type games with AI? This is like an AI text based game that just makes up stories, and images to go with them?

That's pretty damn incredible if true. Like, playing D&D with yourself or something, but anything is possible.

Do I fully understand what's going on here? If I do, that's really radical.

Can you play other people's games? Do you fully structure your stories, or does it make it up on the fly? Do the AIs do violence and sex, or are they super tame? Does it know enough about stuff you could get it to let you play a character in an already made story but then change it by your actions? I see lots of neat possibilities with this new concept. Not sure I fully grasp how it works tough

Thanks for any responses I might get. Appreciate it
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>>486271315
Yes
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>>486271315
Not really. Also, the real thread is here: >>486250225
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>>486271315
You can see it as CYOA or D&D but you can also see it as the AI taking in text and giving you a continuation. So it's also that you have an infinite novel where you cut in and change things to your whims whenever you want, though you can format it in a more call-and-response way.
People share story starters (called prompts) with others, so you can browse the club (https://aetherroom.club/) and see the kind of stuff people are uploading (though since it's very easy to just register and put shit up there's also a lot of chaff). There are censored AIs and uncensored ones, though you can usually get results out of the censored ones by using specific texts made to cancel out the censorship (called jailbreaks).
Existing characters from franchises can be used and the AI will have some degree of knowledge depending on how popular the franchise is.
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>almost blamed the AI for the Brits spelling shit weird again
focused vs focussed
why the extra s?
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>>486275083
French.
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>>486275128
Yeah, that tracks.
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>>486275083
It's weird that "focussed" looks strange to me, but "nonplussed" doesn't. Not sure what to make of that.
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>>486269593
Think of a situation and decide what they would do. What would they do if they got attacked? Cheated on? Respected? Put them in real world scenarios you faced recently.
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>>486272345
Thanks. I appreciate your response. So if I wanted to make one myself, or load it someone else's, how do I do that? Is there a program, or is it a website? That website you linked to has collections of prompts and stories, but I don't see how to activate them.

Looking at a few prompts it seems simple enough. Main body where you write the beginning and it sets up how it starts and the writing style. There's a spot to put the general outline to keep the AI on track(do I have that right?) And also area you can fill in info about specific characters or events that are talked about in the prompt?how do I get started on doing this? I'd like to try out some others before trying to make one myself, but having a choose your own adventure interactive story sounds like a blast.

Thanks for the help. It's greatly appreciated.
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>>486276763
WAKE UP
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>>486277380
Wrong thread: >>486250225
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It smells like cabal through and through...
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>>486277380
The websites for using this stuff are listed in the OP under "ways to write". I don't really have a lot of experience with the ones that aren't NovelAI so I'm not the best at getting everything started (though that does have a free trial you can futz around with). You could check the flowchart in the OP for a basic idea what you could play around with to start.
Generally, prompts are built up with a main prompt body (the actual story), memory (information the AI should always keep in mind) and lorebook (information the AI should only keep in mind if the topic comes up in the main part), but it's probably easier to check existing ones to see how they do it.
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>>486271315
>Can you play other people's games?
Of course! Here's one:
https://chub.ai/characters/raenvasta/afallen-225835acb3eb
And there's many more in the real thread!
>>486276094
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Aetherroom is incredible, I'm so glad to be in the alpha.
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>>486279848
Thank you, chatgpt!
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>>486279848
Looks like Larion.
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>They use a 13B model
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>>486281553
Subscriptions below Opus will get the alpha's 13B test model, because we need a justification to charge extra for 70B (which won't be ready until late november anyway). :^)
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>>486276763
Poor Robert. Let him be free from the Night Terrors.
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why is the model not ready
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Fact. The only person who is desperate to drive away people to /aicg/, who console wars against his favorite most hated service, who refuses to post logs and contribute to story prompt discussion, and who hates it when imagegen, musicgen, and chatgen is posted in this thread is a miserable, obsessed shitposter desperate to kill the thread his schizophrenia can't handle it when people have fun with an "inferior" product.
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Fact. Elf women are made for adventuring, romance, and SEX with human males.
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Fact. Aetherroom was supposed to be out by January 2024 and by now a new-gen storygen model was supposed to come out.
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Fact. Inpainting is fun!
https://files.catbox.moe/qh350a.png
https://files.catbox.moe/c6q45y.png
https://files.catbox.moe/y7sgt9.png
https://files.catbox.moe/ewoslb.png
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>>486295398
Fact. Aetherroom will come out by January 2025 and after that another trip to Disney world.
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>>486295656
Fact. You can't quit shitting up the thread and console warring.
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>>486295656
Why are you like this? Just shut the fuck up and storypost or logpost.
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Reminder that back in the day people used GPT-2 for fun. It should not matter what service people use, quit obsessing about it, quit console warring, shut the fuck up about it, and just enjoy yourselves instead of shitting up the thread every single fucking day.
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>>486295945
You might as well be telling Lee to not get mad at ponies
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>>486296243
Quit getting mad at ponies, Lee. Now shut the fuck up and storypost or contribute positively to the thread. I'm tired of all the pointless console warring and the never-ending shitpost wars.
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>>486296243
NTA and I don't know who Lee is or the lore about ponies, but they SHOULD stop getting mad at ponies. If you hate them so much, stop looking at them dumbass. What's the opposite of ponies, mini cows? Mini donkeys? Search for that instead to balance yourself out or whatever you've got going on
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>>486295431
I just wish SD didn't die...
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>>486296756
>Not knowing barneyfag
Were you not on this site for like the entire second half of the 2010's
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>>486297498
The only threads I use are /aa2g/, /cyoag/, /egg/, this one, and the Teaching Feeling one from time to time.
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I close my eyes and see larion
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>>486297498
barneyfag has a real name? huh.
My point stands, and I apply them equally to all horses regardless of how life-like or pastel they are
I was being a moron because I wanted to make some kind of joke like
>imagine doomscrolling on animal planet of all things
but you shut me down too hard anon ;_;
no i havent had coffee
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Noob question, but if I just wanted a character.ai like non local service (since my rig sucks) that can do nsfw, what exactly are the best options out there right now?
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>>486299750
Kobold Tavern if you do not want to deal with a Proxy, Gemma 2 or Command-R if you are alright signing up to use it, a proxy if you have no scruples about that kind of stuff.
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Pssst, there's a new gem in here:
>>486300046
>>486300046
>>486300046
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Once again the troll decides to false flag and back a hundred posts early. Fuck off.
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Didn't think author tags were enough? Then have I got an update for you!
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That's from e621, troll.
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>>486300583
Ask yourself where they get the training data wait, friend. Open your eyes.
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>>486300719
Where's your log, shitposter?
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>>486300719
They already have the training data. A change now doesn't majorly affect them beyond what they add later.
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>>486301054
He knows that, he just wants to shit up the thread by raging against his ragebait, instead of doing anything worthwhile is his shit life.
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I was looking forward to the thread being different today
why is nothing happening
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>>486300517
What's this on?
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>>486301743
It is from e621, a furry image booru. Once again, the shitposter has decided to throw shit at the wall and post random screenshots from other websites in a blatant attempt to shit up the fucking thread for his shitty vendetta because he can't get his rocks off doing anything productive.
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>>486232634
The cool thing is that she can just undergo plastic surgery to fix her ears and live her life as a human.
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>>486301937
>furry image booru
That explains why I didn't recognize it.
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>>486301960
swnbah doe
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I haven't touched LLMs for about a month and forgot how to write already.
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Are any spoiled fags in here?
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>>486303347
what's a spoiled
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfPZ6hukcw8

Live in my heart if you want tooo
I know you hate it when I'm in heat
But, it's not eeaaaasy
I wanna feeeeel something different for once

I know my beak is killing you, killing you
I can't help it 'cause I'm feeling you, feeling you
Oh honey, please don't say you're gonna leave me
Oh honey, please don't say you're gonna leave me

I would give you my fluffy tails
But I'm not sure that you want to fluff me
I'm not sure that you want to huff my fluff
I would give you my fluffy tails
But I'm not sure that you want to fluff me
I'm not sure that you want to huff my fluff

Oh and you're not alright 'cause I ruined your night
Well honey, that's why I'm a foxgirl
Now you're not in sight 'cause I ruined your mind
Well honey, you knew I'd do that

I would give you my fluffy tails
But I'm not sure that you want to fluff me
I'm not sure that you want to huff my fluff
I would give you my fluffy tails
But I'm not sure that you want to fluff me
I'm not sure that you want to huff my fluff

There's somebody that I know I'm bad for
And you see, I'd like to keep all your prompts for me
And there's somebody that I know I'm bad for
And I can't look away, I'm addicted to your prose, you know

I would give you my fluffy tails
But I'm not sure that you want to fluff me
I'm not sure that you want to huff my fluff
I would give you my fluffy tails
But I'm not sure that you want to fluff me
I'm not sure that you want to huff my fluff
I would give you my fluffy tails
(There's a human)
But I'm not sure that you want to fluff me
(That I know I'm bad for)
I'm not sure that you want to huff my fluff
(Bad for)
I would give you my fluffy tails
(There's a human)
But I'm not sure that you want to fluff me
(That I know I'm bad for)
I'm not sure that you want to huff my fluff
(Bad for)
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>>486308269
>no larion mention in the lyrics
anon......
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>>486309114
No dingleberries mention either
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiEKANbfEYQ

Barely afloat and we're taking on water
Still chasing the high that I felt riding summer dragon
Being buried alive with coom stain on my face
A sharp pain in my heart and a saddest day to erase

I'm picking up the beak pieces, please just look the other way
I'm picking up the beak pieces, please just look the other way

I derail the story plot every chance that I'm given
Is it worth my life if it means I might never see Larion again?
I look at the remember what they took from you.txt that I choose not to forget
While I hold my tears and I tighten my grip

I'm picking up the beak pieces, please just look the other way
I'm picking up the beak pieces, please just look the other way

I'm not falling asleep, wish time would flow slower
Thinking back on 2020, wanna start it all over
I wake you up and I tell you I'm going to Larion
I'M BARELY SURVIVING, BUT I NEED YOU TO WRITE

I'M PICKING UP THE SUMMER DRAGON PIECES, PLEASE JUST LOOK FOR THE OTHER WAAAAAAY
I'M PICKING UP THE SUMMER DRAGON PIECES, PLEASE JUST LOOK FOR THE OTHER WAAAAAAY
'Cause baby I'm afraid I'm slowly killing my interest in writing
By showing you the deepest, darkest, weakest part of my author skills

You said you'll always be right here to keep me company
When I don't even love myself, summer dragon loves me anyway..
When I don't even love myself, summer dragon loves me anyway..
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>>486310626
hell yeah
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nai shit itself again
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>>486315370
*Coreweave shat itself again.
FIFY.
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>>486315370
When isn't it shitting itself?
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>>486315370
Too many 1girl smile images.
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>>486219671
Why aren't users able to create their own boards yet?
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>>486315749
That would give too much power to us plebs.
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>>486315819
Not really, mods would still have the ability to delete any post or board they wish
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>>486316015
>he expects mods to want more work to do
Buddy, the mods can't even be half-assed to do their jobs on this board; you expect them to want to police everyone who uses this site?
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>>486219484
It's that good.
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It's over. Even sage got tired of small beaks.
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>>486316793
I give it two weeks until the cabal is pretending they liked claude all along
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The "cabal" already uses Claude, you dumbfuck.
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In fact, if you weren't such an asshole, you'd know that the "cabal" used Claude long before you decided to fuck around shit up the damn thread. They use it more than your ass does, given the majority of your time is spent shitting up multiple AI threads across the whole damn website. You don't share logs because you don't have enough to showoff, fuck you. The sooner you die, the better for everyone. Motherfucking console warrior. Nobody gives a shit what service or model you use, just post a damn log and quit shitting up the thread.
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It's so easy.
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>>486317275
But the cabal also uses Anlatan products and says that claude is censored! Checkmate naishill, I won.
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>>486317875
Share a log, console warrior, or fuck off.
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In reality, it took months of in-thread wars until they finally gave up about their "Claude can't write smut" narrative.
I remember getting 150 (You)s just from discussing this in the first few threads.
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>>486318004
In reality, you're a fucking revisionist faggot who does nothing but shitpost all day, every day. Post a fucking log, shut the fuck up, and quit shitting up the damn thread. You're an attention whore who does nothing productive all day, every day. Kill yourself.
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Fuck you, console warrior. New thread.
>>486318361
>>486318361
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>he won't stop sperging out
Sad!
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>>486318461
Says the man who's shat up the thread for over two fucking years. Post a log and quit being an asshole.
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>>486318412
>(embed)
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You're damn right I'm pissed. Instead of contributing to the thread, you shit it up. Why? What's the point? Just share logs and discuss stories. It's not that difficult to not be an asshole.
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Love you too Angrycolumboanon <3
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I'm still waiting on that log.
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It doesn't matter what you use, if you aren't contributing to the thread you're a troll.
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Let me show you how a real bread is made.
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Don't know why I'm waiting, it's not like you have any logs to show the thread. You don't care about the thread. Instead you choose to make a fake bread. This thread isn't NAI-exclusive.
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I refuse to adhere to your single definition of what can be discussed in the thread. You're not the ambassador of /aids/.
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>>486319098
You don't discuss anything, troll. All you do is shit up the fucking thread by bitching about NovelAI every single fucking day. Kill yourself. I am the fucking ambassador of /aids/.
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>>486318975
>>486318412
Oh, come on! I just got finished with my bake:
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I'm still waiting on that log.
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>>486319290
Fuck off, troll.
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>>486319403
Does it have updated news or funny meme as op? I think not.
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>>486319403
This thread isn't NAI-exclusive, false flagging console warring faggot.
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>>486319418
Fuck off, claudefag.
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New Neutral Thread!
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>>486320127
You're the one who's Claudefag, retard. This thread isn't NovelAI-exclusive.
>>486320162
Fuck off, troll.
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Go ahead and bake a fifth, sixth, and seventh or more breads. You're a pathetic little faggot who has no life beyond this website.
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>>486320267
>>486318921 has news about llama, gemma, and other local models. Together/Openrouter are on op, but somehow it's a NovelAI-exclusive thread...
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>>486320431
I have to wait 10 minutes.
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>>486320520
Fuck off, troll. We already have a normal thread. Use that one and quit baking redundant breads with outdated information. Use the fuck you thread.
>>Write prompts for next week’s Wholesome and Comfy Friday! Results: >>485687432
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>>486320527
Quit shitting up the board.
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Is NAI down?
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>>486320704
I didn't make all the threads, though.
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>>486320661
What fucking lying nigger... Have you even read the news on the other bake?
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>>486320825
You shouldn't be allowed to bake at all. 4chan should expunge your entire Ip range. You're nothing but a miserable little troll.
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>>486320882
This isn't /b/, troll.
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>>486320945
I think it was the gemmy troll, remember how he made the calm thread earlier.
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>>486321160
He didn't make that bread, the false flagging schizo who hates NAI so much he shits up every single fucking AI thread on this website made it.
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>>486321046
And yet you're going to steal the news I wrote for your next "neutral" bake, aren't you? If it's a troll bake, then let me see if you're going to take any info from it for your next bake.
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>>486321379
I didn't make a troll bread. I made a bread to deprive the faggot who made this thread of the precious (You)s he wants.
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>>486302139
You will never be a real human. You have no naturally rounded ears, you have no body hair, you have no indomitable spirit. You are a mentally ill elf twisted by dark magic and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even humelfs who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy to adventure with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected ear wounds.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll send you off on a pyre marked with your birth name, and every passerby in the skyhome will greet you as an elf. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably elven.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
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>>486321379
Llama 400B will be news once it actually releases.
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>>486321489
Your perfect bake here >>486318361:
>Write prompts for next week’s Wholesome and Comfy Friday! Results: >>485687432
>(07/05) AetherRoom’s Closed Alpha Test will be starting on Monday, July 15th https://files.catbox.moe/unp7ss.jpg(embed) <- Has embed copy pasted like a lazy nigger.
Great job pal! Fucking retard!
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>>486321767
This still isn't /b/.
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>>486321767
It's better than letting claudefag bake the bread.
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>>486321767
Try to not bake 2 threads late next time.
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The truth is, the cabal shills NAI but uses Claude proxies. There is an inner circle in the discord that is in bed with Anlatan, but you will never get into it or see it. Furthermore, there is nothing you can do about it besides flail meaninglessly in the thread. Once AR and Llama 70b are out, no one is going to care about you or your rantings and happily use the service. You lost.
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>>486321896
Geeeeeeeeeet fucked.
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>>486322110
Nice try, bozo. I baked the thread.
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>>486321252
I'm 99% sure it's the gemmy troll false-flagging as claudefag. In retaliation for how claudefag false-flags as him.
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>>486322275
Both need to consider suicide and fuck off. Funny how Claudefag also false flags as Traciposter and GayAnon. All because they have the audacity to be decent people.
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>>486321536
Holy. Do elfcels really?
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>>486322087
They're going to care because it will be priced per token or it will be >$50 a month.
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>>486322494
I'm still waiting on that log.
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>>486322378
>Gemmy is le bad because... he just is okay!
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TOTAL CLAUDEFAG DEATH!
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>>486322915
>>486322915
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What's the matter? Don't you have some logs to share? Oh right, that's right. You do nothing but shit up the thread all day, every day, 24/7, without any break. Even when you do have shit to show, it's never with the intent of sharing it for the sake of enjoyment, but to shit on the thread. Instead, you're going to bake troll breads.
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>>486324557
Real thread! Gogogo!
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>the gemmy troll is having a melty
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>>486324862
More like claudefag is falseflagging because he didn't get to bake the thread.



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