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>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-1123

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
erg
Mold >>486866540
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>>486902280
Why didn't Miquella just fuck his sister?
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Good thread. I now claim it as the straight demigod incest general.
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Elden Ring sucks, God 2 won
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>>486902280
Good OP!
>>486902629
Good poster!
>>486902552
Miyazaki got scared.
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So what was the hint or nod in the DLC that was suppose to give us a sneak peak of next game? Why character or item felt out of place? It has to do with Lamentar right?
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>>486902552
Being raised by a whore made him into a gay retard. Nice kid, but a little dumb.
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You know, Im gonna say a really unpopular opinion here, even if you disagree
Maybe Mohg wouldnt be so difficult if he wouldnt spray fucking DOT ground effect all over the arena withe very single one of his movements
It's not even predictable
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assassin's gambit has better range then I thought (still lost the invasion kek)
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> most lore bits say "Death"
> ghostflame breath's description suddenly says "dead"
can someon explain? Not to mention the retarded idea that actual corpses are moving to gravesite plains. I hate DLC lore currently, it's so frustrating
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>>486902819
it literally is predictable. each move throws it at a specific angle. the non-spear one, his hand position determines if he's throwing down, sideways, or forward.
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>>486902964
we know that corpses are moving there from the getgo, it's the entire premise of the DLC. Mohg's body goes there. Dead shit ends up here. We've been populating the shadowrealm with our murder.
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>>486902819
>it's not even predictable
It is, though.

My last kill of him was at level 20 and I fucked up phase 1 and had to do half of phase 2 with no heals and like 50 HP - 1 tick of bloodflame would have killed me. It's only unpredictable if you're fighting on the side of his arena with elevation changes.
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Back Archives are probably the best invasion area if you have gravity
It's like research hall rafters on steroids
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>>486903204
Holy headcanon
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>>486903041
You can also Carian retaliate the downward one, surprisingly. It's nice because it's really annoying to be forced off of him otherwise.
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>>486903374
who killed mohg
where did mohg's body go
who killed radahn
where did radhan's soul go
simple questions anon
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>>486903438
yeah thats pretty sick tech
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When does the brick hammer get good? I have it at plus 9 and it’s damage is still bad
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>>486903204
> """goes""" there
Ansbach tells you it was stolen
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>>486902972
The Haligtree wasn't a secret at all.
Castle Sol in the Mountaintops, Temple Quarter in Liurnia (Icerind Hatchet) and Village of Albinaurics are all areas related to the Haligtree.
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>>486903495
it's a high strength scaling weapon
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>>486903663
I have 53 strength. Godricks great sword at 4 is way better for damage
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>>486903740
godrick has an axe anon. and it's somber, not regular, of course a +4 somber is better than a +9 regular
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>>486903542
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>>486903542
And where did it get taken anon?
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>>486903549
The path to the Haligtree was absolutely a secret, not only by having a secret medallion but also the entire transportation to it from Ordina. It was certainly not a normal path people took. The Forbidden Lands are Forbidden, afterall.
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>>486903892
This ain’t an axe. Seems like there’s no reason not to use colossal weapons
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Grafted+Blade+Greatsword
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>>486903740
Just put the values in a built calculator
>Grafted Blade
Never
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>>486903949
You are confusing the Land of Shadow with the Afterlife/Spirit Realm. The Spirit Realm is what’s on the other side of the divine gate. The Land of Shadow is just a regular place being veiled from the rest of the world. It’s not the afterlife.
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>>486904189
>grafted blade = godrick's greatsword
nigga can you read?
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>>486904147
Most players can’t fathom that just because we find out a secret or go to a secret place, that it’s still a secret to everyone else. Same with Deeproot Depths and Godwyn’s corpse. These are secret places nobody knows about or are able to get to.
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>>486903936
Miquella is actually really strong. The reason radahn fled to caelid is because radahn saw how obsessed Miquella was and jokingly said "Alright little bro if you beat me in a fight I'll marry you" miquella then immediately picked up radahn without breaking a sweat, and like the man radahn idolized so much, slammed him into the ground creating a crater. Radahn then fled out of sheer terror and malenia chased him as miquella took radahns joke as a vow and that by all rights he's now his husband.
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its really not that hard to get
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>>486904280
Proof? because Mohg was necessary for Miquella to get into the Land of Shadows in the first place too.
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>>486904376
no...
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>>486904464
That isn't even close to the case though
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>>486904257
With the way bosses are whatever has the highest damage in a single swing is what you want to use
>>486904376
Godrick is grafted so it’s his sword
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>>486903041
>>486903221
>at a specific angle
Okay, now adjust for specific height and distance from the ground.
Also, there are liek 500 deifferent splatter animations. Every explosion ahs its own pattern. Do you expect me to spend 10000 tries to memorize them all for one boss? nah, im just gonna cheese this gaylord.
I hope you didnt somehow dodge into the stairs because then youll have to adjust everything. And no, the projectiles dont travel in a straight line and arent even visible.
It's "TECHNICALLY" predictable in the same way that a billiard move is predictable by the laws of the universe
>carian retaliation
If you need to pull a very specific skill out of your ass that isnt even on the main road, youre grasping for straws harder than a man sinking in wetland muck
>i did it at lvl 20
Whoop de fucking doo, congrats to you. I guess walls arent technically a hindrance because some dude managed to clip through them.
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>>486904464
anon we literally go to the roots of the erdtree in the base game

>>486904597
????????????????
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>>486904589
yes it is, you see the roots gathering nutrients and flowing it upward to the erdtree
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>>486904737
you only have a small window to attack bosses without getting hit so colossal weapons are always BIS because they do the most damage in one swing
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>>486904737
how do you explain us seeing the roots of the actual erdtree in the base game bro
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>>486904459
Why shouldn't I accept this as my headcanon as well
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>>486904623
there are not 500 splatter animations, it depends where he's throwing it at, which is AT YOU. if you move yourself into a good position you will know exactly where it goes.

>using a defensive skill is cheating! because i say so
AIIIIIIIIE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>486904880
thats the halig tree
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>>486903452
we're there and we're not dead. Death with capital D goes there because its not part of the golden order. capital Death isn't the same thing that happens when you get cut up with a sword.
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>>486904189
that's a great rune stick for a free godrick great rune effect for 60 seconds
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>>486904623
>Every explosion has its own pattern
Actually, none of his explosion attacks leave bloodflame at all. His bloodflame claws, bloodflame fist, 1H bloodflame ground thrust and explosion, and 2H bloodflame ground thrust and explosion do not produce any residual bloodflame whatsoever.

You got filtered. Get over yourself and learn how to play the video game. You're not special for being bad. You're not "right" for being bad. You're just bad and you're crying because you're bad.
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>>486904147
The path where you just use medallions and reach the place probably was, but since you have random 2nd gen albinaurics hanging around Ordina they had to reach there from somewhere. Except that the game can't really show us this option.
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>>486904992
no it isn't, open your map, it's literally right beneath the erdtree
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This little room before the Small Private Altar site of grace in Belurat is perfect for tuning fashion or just taking a screenshot. Right next to a grace, not affected by time or weather and you can listen to the Belurat soundtrack while you're at it.
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>>486905115
he scadutree is right under the erdtree, it literally lines up
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>>486902280
Let's add pvp to the title of every /erg/ from now on just to mindbreak the faggot that shit and pissed themselves over it
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>>486904942
why arent you using a colossal weapon?
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>>486905230
h-hey cutie
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>>486904942
>there are not 500
Pic related
>it depends where he's throwing it at
So it is highly variable as I said
>which is AT YOU
Except if I moved in any conceivable way within the second after he locked the attack on
> if you move yourself into a good position
Which exactly are good position. By your own admission, it's highly variable, so finding the "good position" is an additional layer of fuckery.
>>using a defensive skill is cheating! because i say so
Literally never said that. Now youre just making shit up
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>>486905251
no it isn't

>>486905302
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>>486905440
didn't read, anyone who does this respond to each line of a post with greentext never has anything worthwhile to say

git gud
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Are there any true combos/rollcatches in pvp on light greatswords aside from the double hit on standing heavy, jump heavy, and dash heavy? Killing heathens is going a little better, but not being able to trap any of the disgusting fucks in a decent combo feels infuriating
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Anyone got a good build that combines scarlet rot with red lightning dragon shit? Would it be a dex/arcane build or what
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>>486905032
>none of his explosion attacks leave bloodflame at all.
Bloodflame talons does. his spearthrust into the ground does
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>>486905474
the fight would be a lot easier if you used a colossal weapon. just run in hit her then run out before she does her bullshit. instead you have to play her dance
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>>486905474
yes it is
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Am I getting old or are bosses vulnerable times after attacks getting shorter which each game
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>>486905251
How are you aligning the maps?
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>>486905612
just cast scarlet aeonia on a faith build
wow
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>>486905004
We're there with the same magic Miquella, Leda etc all used to get there, that created the break in the veil to travel through somehow or another.
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>>486905719
see >>486905634
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>>486904470
proof that being stolen and moved ks thr same as drifting? And how is Messmer in the Realm of Shadow?
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>>486905573
>makes up bullshit
>gets mad when disproven
Die mad, bitch.
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>>486905719
Yeah theyre really short with the new bosses. Base game let you reposition and charge r2, now youre lucky to even get the charge r2 off at all. Hope you got a fast charged r2 with a lot of forward momentum.
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>>486905602
1H dash heavy fucks people up all over the place. but no, it's not got particularly great true combos. Find good times to strip buffs though. Remember the sword swing in the animation of casting it does damage and even if you get stagger out of it they go off. They can do a fucking ton of damage.
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>>486905949
Messmer and all his soldiers were sent there on a crusade before the lands were sealed away bro. They are still alive.
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>>486905004
what is Death?
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>>486905634
colossals are fun but you can't do this with a colossal

nice shitpost tactic btw very engaging and fresh!

>>486905719
#2
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>>486906101
miquella's delicious feet...
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It's a Saturday in July so how do we determine if the people derailing and shitting up the general are retarded teenagers or just loser adults spending their Saturday night shitposting and drinking alone?
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>>486904942
The way the flame sprays is highly depending on your exact positioning and timing when dodging.
Dodging just a 10th of a second later in a 12slightly different direction changes where you can stand without getting burned to death. Which means you need to perfectly nail every single dodge every single time to predict the pattern.
Admitting that isnt an admission of bad play. it's just how this optional bossfight at the end of the game is designed.
Just pack your shit in, dude.
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wow this retard replied to me again thinking i was going to talk to him
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There was already a new thread
>>486901269
>>486901269
>>486901269
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fc?
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>DLC patch comes out
>first loading screen of the session went from a few seconds to a few minutes
>verify integrity
>nothing
>reinstall
>fixes it
>inappropriate activity detected and im booted back to title screen
>games broken again
extremely epic
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>>486906383
fuck off retard
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>>486906108
there was no need to be sent there, it's a normal place, people lived there
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>>486905004
>capital Death isn't the same thing that happens when you get cut up with a sword.
prove it isn't, we're literally told Death washes up here. All manners of Death, even.
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>>486906101
gonna need source now
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>>486904942
use a better ash of war next time
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what are the downsides to colossal weapons
being slow is only an issue for pvp
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>>486906426
>no need to be sent there
Yes they did, because they didn't live there. It's the same phrase you use to say "Malenia sent her army to Caelid" anon. It was a physical place, they walked there, they invaded and genocided, it got ugly and got sealed off for the barbarism. This much is very clear from the descriptions we have.
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>>486906547
you didn't beat et
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so what is there to do after beating the dlc
i started a couple of new characters but never really felt too interested in continuing to play even if i tried different builds
tried a strength build with the guts meme sword, it felt extremely bland and repetitive
tried a sorcery build focused on swordceries, it was kind of interesting but felt stale after a while
most engaging one was an arcane build with poison archery and the arcane scaling staff and talisman, along with the big spiky greatshield and the spiky spear. the bow was nice for picking targets off at range or poisoning enemies too dangerous to fight, the sorcery was just glintstone pebble to make farming thin animal bones less of a hassle, incantations were good for poison mist application to unaware enemies, scrot breath for anything, fireball for fire damage, the spiky spear does pierce and strike damage interestingly enough so it was able to handle stony enemies, but even with all of that variety on a single build i just got fucking bored after getting to raya lucaria
none of the locations are terribly engaging, the story isn't enjoyable at all, the ranni quest just feels like some mary sue faggot wrote fanfic and shoved it in the game (hurr ranni is like the other empyreans but she's cooler and better and is good at everything and outsmarts everyone and has no faults and is perfect) it's just fucking shitty writing
is there any way i can try to make the game more engaging? i tried doing a little bit of mod making but even then it's like what's the point
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>>486906613
being slow
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>>486906547
vow sucks ass

>>486906613
keep it up bro! i'm sure someone will bite the bait soon enough! your saturday night won't be wasted, surely!
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Did Malenia intentionally shatter her needle and fuck up Caelid?
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>>486906728
only an issue if theres lots of enemies but you can work around it
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>>486906547
Why didn't you do the second attack?
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>>486906214
Miquella's delicious armpits...

>>486906530
https://x.com/Krekkov/status/1814777036399128718
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>>486906763
she did.
all of this to have miquella fuck radahn btw enjoy.
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>>486905628
They literally do not
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>>486906763
it's always been intentional but we didn't know the reason until the dlc lore
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>>486906729
>vow sucks ass
>literally showing video proof of it being otherwise
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>>486906718
No replayability has nosedived compared to past games and it basically has to do with breaking the world formula
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>>486904942
NTA but you need to calm down. Nobody said anything about cheating, dude.
Also, when you post webms like that you shouldnt call other people bad at the game
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>>486907048
man that's really depressing
gonna have to find a new game to autistically read the wiki of
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damn he's still trying to bait me
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>>486906763
That was obvious from day 1. She literally "went all out, just this once Master" and that never changed.
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>>486907046
i tried to use it several times, the usability is just bad, too short duration, too long cast time, barricade lasts ten times as long and costs a third of the fp and protects you only slightly worse
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>>486907137
forgive me, miquebart
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>>486907048
It has everything to do with the base game being huge pussy shit about not locking you out of content. Frenzy Flame should lock you out of every sidequest in the game except its own with how much people hate you. Following paths to endings should have had far more specific content. Being able to collect everything on one playthrough is stupid for a game of this size.
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>>486906718
>1200 hours in Elden Ring
>Prepare 7 builds to play the DLC with
>Don't play Elden Ring for 5 months
>DLC releases
>Finish first playthrough, 50 hours total
>Start 2nd, hang around the open world for a bit
>Stop playing
>Start 3rd, hang around the open world for a bit
>Stop playing
I don't know.
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>>486907369
starting a new play through is boring id rather contine on my one character
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>>486907486
That's literally what NG+ is for. I didn't say shit about new characters. You can do it however you want.
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I wish I was as passionate about anything as Shabriri is about burning the Erdtree to the ground.
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>dragon halberd
>beast lord chest
>Elden Lord Crown and gauntlets
>Solitude Legs
Let me guess, you need more?
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>>486907558
>burning the erdtree
everything anon, everything.
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>>486907556
NG isnt enjoyable for me i stop before elden lord then just explore
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1/4 hell
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>>486907770
then you will be doomed to meaningless quests that don't impact anything in the world
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>>486907369
I sure love being part of Ranni's squad, Volcano Manor, Dragon Cult, Bloody Finger and Lord of Frenzied Flame all at once and none of it impacting my game!
Same as Fia killing in the Roundtable Hold, Nepheli being the queen of Stormveil Castle and giving Radahn a honourable death for the Redmanes and nothing changing!
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>>486906928
Miquella is not for lewd, Miquella is for cute
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>>486907907
I hate that Radahn stole the role Malenia and Mohg had in fanarts. What a bitch.
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2/4
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Guy says the most simple thing ever and you scream and cry that he isnt using the same tryhard edgelord OnlyWaifu ROB build you are.
>maybe it would be easier if there weren't so mucbground effect
Yes. It would be easier. And quite honestly, the ground effect is annoying with HOW LONG it remains. Make it 2 seconds, not the 5 or 10 or whatever it is.
And yes, the attacks spraying it everywhere makes it hard to position.
But you cant admit that. You must somehowbpretend like it doesnt makebthe fight harder at all. Go take your cheesy build somewhere else.
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>>486908127
That's his husband
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>>486907860
Yeah. I know the old games barely did this too, but it's time they moved forward. ER could have been a far more ambitious game if they actually focused far more on constructing the game around the factions you can ally with for endings throughout the whole design.
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>>486905602
Crouch 2hr1 into r1 is not a true combo but it connects A LOT for monstrous damage
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Man fuck my ass
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>>486907907
Miquella is for sex!
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>>486902819
>Mohg's bloodflame is unpredictable
False.
>>486904623
>massive wall of cope
False.
>>486905628
>Bloodflame talons leaves bloodflame on the ground
False.
>His spear thrust into the ground leaves bloodflame on the ground
False.

Here, have proof. Stop telling lies on the Internet and learn how to play the fucking video game before you cry about it.
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>>486908325
>I know the old games barely did this too
Huh? You make enemies in DS3 depending on what you do, don't you?
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>>486907475
oof that's harsh

>>486907556
ng+ is just as repetitive as starting a new character

>>486908127
yeah miquella x mohg is a much better ship than miquella x radahn
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>>486908539
I said "barely" not "not at all." They impact fairly small amounts of content though ultimately. Very few major changes.
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>>486908661
NG+ is way less repetitive than starting a new character since you're at a completely different level of power and build options though, with most of the tedium done
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>>486908479
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2/4... pls join
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>>486908310
His husband shouldn't exist
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>>486908862
i'm australian... you wouldn't want me to join..
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>>486908790
the boss battles are the tedium, the real gameplay is exploration and finding new items and most of that is already done in the first run
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>>486908661
Miquella x Mohg is built on a bed of lies
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>>486906928
severely disappointed that that was his thumb peeking out from behind the censorship and not his foreskin
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The scadu tree used to be right next to the Erd tree as a normal balance of light and shadow and the natural order of the world and shadow lands were a part of the lands between, where the big body of water is.

The great bridge from Rauh used to lead to Leyndell, past the two trees.

The Numen landed on the Cerulean cost in their coffin ships, and started migrating north, creating the civilisations in Siofra, Nokron, Nokstella, Ainse, Uld palance and Deeproot depths. The floying coffins the Tarnished uses to travel between the areas were actually technology left from the Numen

A small group of the numen rather than settling down, continued migrating, until they settled in the Shaman village.

Hornsent, who were the dominant race of the lands between back then, then started using the Shamans to put in jars to make the saint, but somehoe Marika took the role and had her son start the crusade.

Afte the crusade, she had the entire centre of the lands between sealed into another dimension, and also tried to kill the Scadu tree by having Mesmer wrap a sealing tree around it.

The Cerulean coast used to be the same elevation as the rest of the shadow lands, but Marika's teleportation only took the top layer, resulting the area becoming a coastal low land. Likewise, Limgrave which used to the bed rock of the Cerulean coast had its top layer scraped off, becoming the new soil that eventually regrew.

This is also the reason why Limgrave itself is a coastal low land, with exposed foundation columns similar to Rauh ruins

Likewise, the great bridge from Ruah leading to Leyndell was severed.

The multi layered valleys, canyons and ravines in the Shadow lands were also the results of the land being teleported, lifted and breaking during its transport to the shadow realm by Marika
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I’ve been ruminating on some concepts in the game, specifically prophecy, and symbolic fulfillment.

>The Eclipse is a symbol seen on the banners in castle sol and the mausoleum knights. Ranni represents the moon and Godwyn represents the sun. Miquella could not create an eclipse because it already happened during the night of the black knives. The darkmoon is called such because it represents a moon during an eclipse.
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>>486908479
>>486908795
>stone club
>BTFOs delusional casuals
I kneel
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>>486909147
I'm just as disappointed as you anon, I wish it was his cock too
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>>486909147
>>486909421
you gay?
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>>486906003
>>486908332
thanks anons, will try

I wish I could have shown this invasion to the idiot that was telling me that great runes are cheating in seamless invasions. Having 3 people with half a braincell that run away when I look in their direction is absolutely infuriating, and I wont this by the skin of my teeth after 9 solid minutes of fighting.
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Did they nerf DMGS damage?
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>>486909283
/erg/ is suffering a reddit spacing epidemic
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>>486909147
>>486909421
maybe there's an alt version with his cock showing up idk need to wait for someone to post the fanbox
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>>486909514
Yeah, I'm gay for femboys, why aren't you?
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>>486908127
finally, beautiful miquella chest
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Anyone got the customization settings this toon so I can make her?
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>>486909129
so are lots of relationships, at least they're cute together
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"...and Melkor sprang upon the mound; and with his black spear he smote each Tree to its core, wounded them deep, and their sap poured forth as it were their blood, and was spilled upon the ground. But Ungoliant sucked it up, and going then from Tree to Tree she set her black beak to their wounds"
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>>486909656
yeah hold on
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>>486909046
Most of the boss battles are pretty easy on NG+ especially and you have tons of ways to make them easy, is it a big deal? You don't have to do very many at all ultimately.

But again if you want everything available in one game you are resigning yourself to NPC questlines never mattering at all, the things you do having no impact on anyone else and thus all the effort or intrigue of any differing questline will never go anywhere. You will never find new things to explore in places based on the consequences of your actions elsewhere. You really want a boring gameworld.
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why are we like 6 games in and more greatswords don't fucking have the claymore pokes
why is from retarded
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Can't believe the memestrat was to poke this retard from up close and ignore the lava.
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>>486909735
no i would love it if it were like that, but in elden ring it's not
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this one had miquella tag on it so i think it's him, it's cute anyway
my prediction of "miquella will merge with malenia, solving both of their curses" didn't happen
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>>486909523
is there a way to convert a seamless save to a normal save?
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These catacombs are GOOD.

The next game needs more areas like this.
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>>486908479
oh no no no no shittersisters how will we ever recover
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Also is there some known secret item in the room? Because I got the Eye Surcoat drop out of nowhere.
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lorefags be like i dont even like the game outside collecting rocks and flowers
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>>486909969
then you should follow the quote chain all the way back to the one saying the game should be designed like that
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>>486906763
She did, but I don't think she forsaw it fucking up all of Caelid the way it did. She probably thought the damage would have been localized around Radahn.
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>>486909543
no
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>>486908862
Is it still up? do I have to queue for a certain map?
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>>486910052
don't do that unless you never plan to play with EAC on, you'll almost certainly get banned because of all the extra items seamless adds to your save
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>>486910118
that item is just there anon, it's lore
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>>486910172
oh sorry im just a fuckup retard loser i just want to die
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>>486910052
why bother, just cheat in all the shit you need to recreate your character anyways
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>>486910302
damn...
I want to do a playthrough with a fren then change back to vanilla once we were done
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>>486910159
lorefags be like yeah i'm a godwyn fan i know everything about godwyn i fucking love godwyn

anyways he should have been resurrected in the DLC (LOL!)
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>>486910281
it's not
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>>486910401
Shut the fuck up Moore
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why the fuck i'm getting elden ring roleplay pages on my twitter that's embarassing as fuck i dont want to read preceptor seluvis twitter account
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How fucked up would you be if Marika were your mom?
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>>486910441
:(
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>>486910807
considering not a single thing that crawled out of her snatch hasn't been deformed i'm fucked
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>>486910807

Imagine going on holiday with your mom and she makes you take pictures of her
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>>486910807
>"marika sexually abusing miquella" leak wasn't real
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>>486911060
I love older women..
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>>486910415
dupe your sl2 save with the save helper tool then play seamless with your friend
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>>486902768

>TFW shorter than Miquella

Is the game telling me my only hope is to become a trap
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>>486911310
are you south east asian?
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>>486911310
>shorter than 170cm
I genuinely hope you are a biofem and not a dude
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>>486911310
i'm shorter than him too, also a guy
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I wish there were more ice lightning weapons and spells, the blue lightning is more aesthetically pleasing than the regular yellow.
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>>486910118
>>486910313

Is the lore implication supposed to be that one of Olfnir's spies managed to make it to Rykard before getting -ACKed?
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bro your tumblebuff?
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>tfw taller than Miquella (5'8)

heh
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Don't know if you're here but nice work bro. You're the first host to go the distance with me today.
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>>486909971
>riding a bull
Ummm...It really is him.
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>>486911956
yes
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>>486904464
The root of a tree is not the shadow of a tree fucking hell WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS
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I hate Fia for the same reason I hate Yuria: I am against a world where it is considered normal to be a fucking zombie on aesthetic grounds alone. Kill both on sight.
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how viable are pure INT/FTH builds? obviously you won't do as much damage as investing in one or the other, so what tools can optimize a build?
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>>486912229
going to rl200
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>>486909673
Didnt miyazaki hate lotr
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>>486909971
>my prediction of "miquella will merge with malenia, solving both of their curses" didn't happen
i predicted a bunch of bullshit involving godwyn but none of it happened
to be honest it never even occurred to me to be mad. i thought what we got (outside of radahn) was cool. the amount of butthurt i've seen over godwyn is astronomical.
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>>486912229
not viable in the slightest. they scale excellently into ng+ as you can use your PoD staff mainhand with 430 spellbuff to obliterate whatever you look at with comet spam
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>>486912229
they're viable for me
you get 3 ring spells, 2 putrescent spells and a bunch of death spells
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There are so many things in ER that just make me go "what the fuck why" and I know some of them are shit that's "tradition" from previous games too but the thing is they bugged me in those games too
why is str the only attack stat you can underinvest in with two handing?
why does dex affect spell casting speed? what does dex have to do with int, and why are dex/int builds rewarded?
why is there so much weapon size disparity in some categories? why is there a katana that's like 5 meters long in a category that's basically a straight sword length otherwise?
why are there like 10 fth hammers and 3 different int katanas?
why is there a built in penalty to fire damage when wet, and then add water puddles or rain fucking everywhere in the game? Similarly, why is there a reward for lightning damage when wet?
why does bleed just gets to delete things?
why is nothing in game affect by madness when clearly nonhuman things can be affected by madness?
why does deathblight still exist?
why does fth get to have spells of 3 of the 4 damage types in the game?
why does piercing damage do extra damage while counterattacking? why doesn't everyone have this?
why
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3 notes from you guys on a corpse holding cotton
>Praise the south!
>Vigor
>Master required ahead, could this be a vigor?
Never change
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>>486910807
>I'd be fine, better than fine actually.
-Godwyn, seconds before his meeting with a bunch of strange sexy women in a forest.
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>>486910807
I am an illustrious and golden god, a luminary star-child that the peons of the lands cower before in deific reverence, yet I bear the legs of a chicken. It is a curse I alone bear, even if I ordain that all my minions must bind their legs in talon-stilts and wear feathered ritual skirts. The source of my terrible affliction? I was touched at birth by the mad taint of the Chicken-Leg Outer God, whom Marika did affront in her past life as a whore. For this I brood (literally) in my black spiral castle in the fuchsia lands beyond the fog of the mountaintops, ever waiting mother's return.
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>>486912229
70/70 or 80/80 if you're spicy, you need to go high to have enough VIG and Mind to not die or want to kill yourself. Very viable for PVP, but most PVE fags are boring and their definition of viable is
>Erm, is it more efficient than chain-staggering the boss with lion's claw? No? Not interested, sorry...
but it's fun either way.
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>>486912415
tower of babel is such a great place to invade
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>>486912353
it feels so funny to me to come back after a year to find all these people with schizo theories about him
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>>486905230
ewwww a nox
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>>486912506
inertia, they're using the same numbers and base mechanics they have for like 20 years or some shit

it is how it is
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>>486912640
what the loretuber echo chamber does to a mfer
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>>486912539
Shut the fuck up Dee
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>>486905730
why is everyone in this thread a fuckin asshole
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>>486912415
The magma sorceries are also int/fth but those fucking suck
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>>486905230
Are you using texture mods? Also what Reshade?
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>>486912829
there are only a handful of things in the entire game that inflict rot. only four of them scale with fth. it's a bad question.
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>>486909803
>why are we like 6 games in and more greatswords don't fucking have the claymore pokes
>why is from retarded

You think that's bad, I miss the hell out of the halberd moveset from Demon Souls. DS1 halberds are alright but since DS2 the animations have been disappointing and slow.
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great shield/greatspear is the most gratifying and rewarding gameplay. slowly poking enemies to death in a slow and methodical way while my wife latenna shoots thousands of arrows way back at the boss door gives a satisfaction like no other
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homo
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>>486913058
DeS Halberd was peak. I did love the mechanic of DaS1 failed thrusts though. Fun balance point for them.

I wish pretty much all greatsword movesets stopped existing because their movesets are stupid and slow for most of the real life greatswords, and so even is just the animation of slinging it over a shoulder.
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>>486910807
i already turned out like miquella, how much worse could it get?
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>>486905230
bro this isn't skyrim
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saint trina giving radahn wet dreams about miquella every day
>>486913448
what the fuck is this supposed to mean
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>>486913519
Type B players are freaks
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>>486913448
can i be your consort
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>>486913448
you should kill yourself immediately
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>>486913427
>I wish pretty much all greatsword movesets stopped existing because their movesets are stupid and slow

That's just Elden Ring.
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>>486913597
>what the fuck is this supposed to mean
i have borderline personality disorder, am a feminine faggot, and fell in love with a muscular friend who said i'm like his brother

>>486913719
no sorry im already extremely obsessed with someone
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>>486913832
i guess that checks out
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>>486913832
stop larping
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kill yourself now
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>>486910807
straight to the sewers for sure
not even an omen just for being a loser
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>>486905602
Wing stance is fun and all, but sword dance is just faster and will rollcatch anyone provided the latency isn't too severe.
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>>486905230
For pity's sake, your place is in the jar. For shamans like you, this is your lot.
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You're not miquella. Your are brown and ugly and fat
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>>486913803
>ER is slower
Is this edited to fuck with people or what, that can't be the case, a lot of animations for a lot of weapons look sped up to compete with the ever increasing speed of the PvE
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>>486912559
This

>>486912229
They're a lot of fun.
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>>486913803
The ones on the left are still not very good animations and their twohanded ones are awful.
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I'm literally Thiollier
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>>486913803
The classic greatsword moveset in these games is just shit animation, it looks like you're swinging around a fucking 50kg bat when even the heaviest of greatswords (like a zweihander) is like 4kg at MOST
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>>486913427
>>486913803
Considering how much of a cluster fuck the dev cycle of the game was I'm convinced they slowed everything down so much because one group of devs REALLY wanted to push ashes of war as the end all be all to combat
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>>486913803
>devs not understanding that greatswords weren't massively heavy chunks of metal
>but still relatively light and mobile swords meant more for crowd control than thunking people with heavy crushing weight

>>486913983
cope and seethe
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>>486914168
how in the fuck is this anything like Miquella? you look like a tranny, disgusting
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>>486914168
is this a girl or a boy?
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>>486914113
do not simp for toxic women retard
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>>486914115
I personally like the DS3 animation speed and weight it conveys. Fromsoft appears to have taken notice on how light real greatswords actually are by creating a lite greatsword class.
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>>486914275
>how in the fuck is this anything like Miquella?
see >>486914285
>is this a girl or a boy?
boy
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>>486914168
idgi
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Greatswords and greatweapons and various other sorts should be unusable one handed. They need to adapt a basic system where things force dual handedness to even use as an option.
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>>486914380
wearing a tranny outfit doesn't make you like Miquella, there's a reason you didn't show your face and it's because you're ugly
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> Greatsword patterned after the black steeple of the Helphen, the lampwood which guides the dead of the spirit world. The lamplight is similar to grace in appearance, only it is said that it can only be seen by those who met their death in battle.

Was this meant to mean something?
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>>486914595
no
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>>486914380
why is that boy wearing women's clothing?
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>>486914595
it might
what does it mean to you?
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>>486914320
This.
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If Marika didn't want the whole her being Radagon thing to be public knowledge, it's really weird how his image is in churches everywhere.
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>>486914595
tbqh it seems to me like it was intended to relate tot he Scadutree but since Miyazaki set a whole DLC in a realm with it's own "Shadow" Erdtree and cut every single reference to it's lore we can't ever know.

I'll never not be mad that the DLC became a big Griffith wank with some Marika on the side and didn't even explain the bigass tree on the horizon at all times even a LITTLE.
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>>486914113
I'm as weak as a kitten, and thick as two planks.
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>>486914356
but when will they give me back my wife
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>>486914595
Before the DLC was released there was speculation that it could mean something.

Now, it doesn't.
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>>486914356
the name "light greatsword" pisses me off like you have no clue
its a fucking longsword
>b-but the longsword is a straight sword
the greatsword is a colossal sword

all traditional from animations are espactic as shit honestly, the way your character handles a straight sword is embarrassing and I don't even do sword shit irl, I just know you're not supposed to fucking swing like that
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>>486914773
radagon is the elden lord, his image is naturally going to be widespread and popular
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>>486914879
>>486913803
>>486914115
>>486914356
>>486914879
Too bad, shiteaters hated Dark Souls 2's HEMA inspired mo-capped animations so you're fucked and can eat shit. Thanks retards!
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>>486914849
do you also wear women's clothing?
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>>486914869
there are like 3 swords with that moveset in elden ring
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>>486914848
Makes sense. It has a similar motif as the Shadow Keep, so I can see a cut version of the keep being Helphen Keep, and the Scadu Tree being the Helphen itself.
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>>486914054
>Is this edited to fuck with people or what, that can't be the case,
It is. I just recorded this.
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>>486914879
yeah they know how to do movesets with katanas and odachi, they base it on actual techniques
realistic european sword movesets basically don't exist in videogames though, it's unlikely fromsoft will go out of their way to fix it
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>>486914595
tl;dr it's a forgotten death rite. This stuff is ancient, and it was never clear whether it was suppose to be elaborated on in the DLC.
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For me it was the Silver Knight Straightsword and Blueblood Sword movesets
I'll literally never forgive DaS3 for not giving us the SKSS back
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>>486915219
That looks just as slow though...?
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>>486914653
my dad didn't love me enough
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Maybe I'm just a shitter but does crossbow spam seem unpunishable?
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>>486915341
>That looks just as slow though...?
That's my point, the speed of the greatswords in Elden Ring is ass.
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>>486914168
cute
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nice thread elden fags
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do you guys think miquella would sew malenia slutty clothes to mess with her because she would have no choice but to wear them or stay naked
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>>486915582
ty
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>>486914848
Don't forget the red streaks of light that look like grace in the Forbidden Lands.
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>>486915582
y-you too
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Seriously guys I need to know a good dragon weapon :(
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>>486915803
rivers of blood
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>>486915803
a weapon used by dragons, or a weapon for killing dragons?
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>>486915582
sissies run this thread
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Arena would be good if it only had 4-6 man modes
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>>486915803
Magma Scalesword
>BUT
Magma. Scalesword.
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>>486915803
magma wyrm
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>>486915803
nagakiba with bleed infusion
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>>486915724
No
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so what in the fuck is even going on in these scenes

>great rune/elden ring dissolves into shadow cum
>shadow starts overtaking everything
>entity spawns
>ground becomes water
>new pocket dimension associated with the being that spawned

notable difference is that in renalla's scene the shadow forms a crucible and turns into a cloud, whereas in radagon's scene it collects on the surface like a thick fog. weird thing about the renalla one is that it doesn't appear like spirit ashes or an illusion, it appears like a player summon, so how the fuck is that working?
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I wonder how long it will take for Seamless players to realise just how much of a death trap Torrent is in PvP. As soon as you land a hit on someone there's absolutely nothing they can do to prevent themselves from getting stunlocked to death. Doesn't matter if they levelled vigor or not because after a couple hits they'll be knocked off Torrent and put into a painfully long getting up animation that has no i-frames.
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Is there a way to get Thiollier's concoction after doing St Trina's quest and defeating him?
>Gave him the black syrup from moore
>Didn't get concoction from him (I guess you're supposed to select "I'm weary of life" or something?)
>Did St Trina's quest, now he's just lying on the floor of St Trina's cave and doesn't say anything
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>>486915939
okay :(
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>>486916025
for me I get mages on torrent who I just kill with fire serpent before they learn
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>>486915724
yes
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>>486916213
Actually, see >>486915939
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>>486915743
Literally doesn’t look like grace at all, not even close. Where did you come to that conclusion?
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>>486916105
his quest isn't done
finish the DLC
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>>486916213
yay, that's hot
>>486916240
:(
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>>486916273
Whose quest isn't done? I want the concoction to give to the dragon lady, since I read you can give it to her. But I don't know how to get it
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>>486916454
You can't get it if he's already moved to where St. Trina is
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>>486916105
>>486916454
I don't think you can get it now
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Bad news lads, the gig's up
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>>486916054
Elden Ring if Malenia and Radahn even momentarily tried talking about WTF was going on
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>>486916454
Oh I didn't read your whole post. I don't know. You probably had to choose being weary of life to get it in the first place. You will eventually get his bell bearing though.
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>try to do a faith caster run
>ends up being a fire greatsword + flame grant me strength + golden vow run

goddamn it im a terrible cleric
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>>486916624
What the fuck is against their TOS
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>>486916624
>lasted almost year
it was only a matter of time before the normalfags caught wind and started the seething over the slurs and rape i guess
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>>486916624
>>486916768
what does the email say?
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>>486915181
Yeah that'll be my headcanon for now. Honestly this is what breaks the DLC's lore contributions for me. Man this DLC was a fucking letdown aside from bosses and items.

>None of the new levels surpass the old ones
>The lore was basically only made more confusing and almost no important answers were given


I think I'm done with fromsoft lore. The constant reshuffling and lack of consistent vision is far too apparent this time around.

>>486915743
>>486916243
I still think the Forbidden Lands and Mountaintops/Consecreted Snowfield have a strong strong lore connection to the Shadowrealm pre-sealing.
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The fallen memes tell a story...
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>>486916624
>ITS OVER
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>>486916817
AO3 has tons of rape though
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>made a co-op build
>finally finished them yesterday
>haha time for Jolly Co-Operation™
>everything is going fine
>we get invaded
>I hit the guy
>only do like 50 damage
>this is at level 150
>think he has some physick on
>nope, this is permanent
>he one-shots the host who was rune arc'd had 60 vigor and had a health talisman for over 2.4k HP
>obviously cheating
>wow I thought EAC protected against that???
>block the invader
>repeat
>this invader has over 3k HP not entirely sure how much because I only manage to do about 2.6k damage to them
>and again they one-shot the host
>block him
>next host, invader is using Giant Crusher, Bullgoats Set, Rellanas Twin Moons and Light Of Miquella
>all while mid rolling and at over 2k HP
>manage to kill him after like 15 minutes since I do about 100 dmg per hit
>block him
What the fuck is this bullshit?

I'm assuming some kind of cheat got put into the public now. But what the fuck is the point of EAC? This shit just causes lag and FPS issues and doesn't even protect you?
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>>486916887
>I think I'm done with fromsoft lore.
you are retarded if you weren't done with it long before this
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>>486916854
Copyright infringement(?) and not having permission
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>>486916887
the DLC revealed a ton about the crucibles but in the most esoteric way possible that you have to read between the lines for. protip: the crucible was alive.
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>>486917380
lol
I don't know why you were using AO3 instead of a google docs repository anyways though
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>>486917380
Did you actually just upload something straight from the game?
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>>486917320
You're colorblind and fighting password phantoms
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>>486917380
because you're uploading stuff people here wrote I guess, not your own writing
there's probably another similar website that would work
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>>486917320
>But what the fuck is the point of EAC? This shit just causes lag and FPS issues and doesn't even protect you?
the point is to collect your data and sell it
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>>486917404
Can you spell it out to a lorechud? Of it was alive, what was it? Did they have to crawl into Metyr’s chest-pussy to get crucible powers?
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>>486916624
>>486917380
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>>486916624
NOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>486917619
It mentions a complaint explicitly. Either he uploaded something he really shouldn't have (ie pages from a guidebook or something) or else bamco literally DMCA'd AO3 because of 4chan fanfiction--which would be incredibly fucking funny.
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>>486917595
nta but players using passwords look different? never noticed
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>>486917323
Every other game was more coherent and consistently planned. The lore wasn't too overcrowded and the majority of the elements within it were handled with respect and care.Elden Ring has this issue where the lore seems to cover atleast three milleniums and we get almost never enough answers even though a lot of it is very enticing and interesting. Miyazaki went too hard huffing his own farts this time. This story and world was lessened in value byu the apparent lack of vision and offensive withholding of important CORE information.

THE DLC TITLE IS ABOUT THE SCADUTREE AND WE GET -ZERO- LORE ON IT. IT'S A SYMBOL OF BETRAYAL AND ABANDONMENT AND IS BRITTLE NOW. WOWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>486917404
Yeah but we don't have an answer at all for it so it can still go fuck itself. I'm done with it.
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>>486917320
I thought I was the only one.

Yep. Game is now filled with cheaters. Some cheat program must have gotten a public release somewhere because the game is FILLED with actual Cheaters on PC now.

Even worse, I can't protect myself like I did in Dark Souls 3 with Watchdog Mod.
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>>486917776
oh yeah
he should at least get an appeal
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>>486917778
It was a joke. Ironically, there is actually an icon that indicates whether summons are password summoned and therefore downscaled (implying). Guess who can see it?
>the host
>other summons
>hunters
Guess who can't see it? The only multiplayer party who would actually benefit from knowing whether a player is downscaled, invaders.
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>>486917779
Leaving extremely basic information out that probably any random NPC could give you their thoughts on is the most infuriating aspect of design in this game. Mysteries need context
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>>486917995
doesn't really matter to me since I do invasions in the 200s and don't give a shit
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>>486917779
>Every other game was more coherent and consistently planned. The lore wasn't too overcrowded and the majority of the elements within it were handled with respect and care.
you are looking at it with rose-tinted glasses. they've always been like this, never explaining anything properly. just a few stupid item descriptions here and there

here's an example for you: in DS3, what the fuck is the deep? something aldrich discovered, and...?
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>>486914054
>>486915219
>>486915341
Here's the Claymore speed from DS3. My god going back into this game after playing Elden Ring is shocking. DS3 feels so good and natural.
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>>486917779
velka
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>>486917320
blatantly lying to make le heckin evil red man look bad? sad!
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>>486917619
That's most likely, yeah
>>486917776
All the chapters are stuff anons post here, I obviously wouldn't upload official material. I asked them if it was one of the song parodies because we've had anons make lyrics edits of stuff like Mercenary Song and the Song of Durin from LOTR
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>>486914869
>but when will they give me back my wife
Tis a good weapon and is sorely missed.
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>>486917320
>But what the fuck is the point of EAC? This shit just causes lag and FPS issues and doesn't even protect you?
u rike?
Jap developers being utterly incompetent when it comes to anything related to multiplayer appears to be a running theme. Dark Souls 3 had the best anti-cheat the series has ever had in the form of a fucking mod that was practically required to use if you wanted to play online because malicious cheaters could literally softlock your save file and/or get you banned from online by injecting illegal items into your inventory. I'd bet money that more legitimate players got banned by From's atrocious anti-cheat in that game than actual cheaters. Fuck, that's probably the case in Elden Ring too. Whoever is in charge of their multiplayer networking needs to be fucking fired.
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>>486918174
>you are looking at it with rose-tinted glasses.
No I'm not. There are virtually no important areas of Dark Souls lore that are left untouched or unanswered by the end of the Trilogy. Only Velka-cucks remained thirsty for answers pretty much.
>>486918230
One thing. Not a good argument.
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>>486918435
where are you getting these
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>>486918205
That's because Elden Ring recycles so many animations from DaS3 but just slightly retimes them.
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>>486916624
well shit. any chance someone can make a google doc?
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>>486918174
>in DS3, what the fuck is the deep?
A calm super deep abyss.
>something aldrich discovered, and...?
See? You're just a lorelet and never understood the ones that were made well. The Abyss is a big ocean of raw "dark" and the "deep" is the bottom of it where it becomes tranquil and less dangerous and lots of little bugs and shit congregate [like a seafloor]

Dark Souls was well handled because the scope was never over ambitious and Miyazaki wasn't collaborating.
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>>486916624
>i cant even find it anymore
did it get deleted already?
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>>486917320
literally just happened to me
>invade group
>get teleported to outside the map
>grab animation
>take around 30% of my health in damage
>fall into the void
>take 30% of my health in damage
>another teleport grab
I alt f4'd right there
first time ive ever done that
definitely first time ive ever seen a cheater
kinda insane
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I'm gonna say it. DS3 was just better.
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>>486918565
way of the white
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>>486918230
Velka was always a minor background character in no particular need of further explanation.
Now hypothetically, if we repeatedly encountered "Velka Apostles" who had some of the coolest spells and best theme music in the game, then it would make sense to want more details about who Velka was.
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>>486918174
Can you tell me what the Shadowlands truly are, and how we got there, and what the shadow of the erdtree (the DLC's fucking name) is?

I could tell you what Artorias of the Abyss was. I could tell you what Lordran was. Drangleic. Each DaS2 DLC. Lothric and both DaS3 DLCs, the areas were known and explained. There are elements (who the fuck are angels?) that aren't really and raise some big questions, but overall ER and SotE have chopped off way more than the usual Fromsoft formula did for context.
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>>486918773
>the "deep" is the bottom of it where it becomes tranquil and less dangerous and lots of little bugs and shit congregate [like a seafloor]
literally headcanon
provide some proof (and by this I mean item descriptions, because that's where 95% of the lore is) for your argument
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I just can't get into replaying this game, once I'm past a certain point (limgrave and liurnia) the open world really just feels like a slog when I've discovered it from past playthroughs. How do you guys deal with it?
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>>486919056
I hate how this artist draws Miquella. He makes him look like a dwarf.
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>>486918435
The speed of the curved greatswords also got butchered in Elden Ring. Here's the speed of the Murakumo in DS3. God I miss this baby.
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>>486918951
Some sort of basic bitch holy practice that remained popular for years. Didn't need more lore. Dark Souls games were small.

>WotW is a religious practice that involves honor the Allfather Lloyd
That's all we needed. Elden Ring has like 60 things like this. I made a Ravenmount Assassin build for the DLC and figured I'd get at least one new item or some lore.... I got none. That's just one example. Elden Ring's lore is SO dense and cluttered and virtually none of it gets good answers or followups or expansions in the DLC.

The next world needs to be more focused. Not smaller, just don't clutter it was 3-4 possible millennia of history and multiple ruling pantheons of gods and shit.
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>>486919236
yeah I hate elden ring curved greatswords, they feel awful
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>>486917681
combining concepts found within the DLC like metyr and the talisman of all-crucibles implies through shared nomenclature the existence of a living "mother of crucibles" that was the source of the crucible aspects, but also distinct from whatever divine force the hornsent worshipped, as the all-crucible aspects that grew on the giants was different from the horns granted to the hornsent.

my theory is that all of the different crucible aspects were different "children" of the OG crucible mother, each in a more refined, "evolved" form that only represented a specific aspect. horn crucible, flower crucible, knot crucible, etc. there is actually base game cut content that alludes to this idea via miranda, the maiden of the flower crucible, and progenitor of all miranda blooms.
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>>486916624
>>486917380
So this is how watching the library of alexandra burn must have felt like
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>WORRY NOT, MY FAIR PRINCESS, OH MY FAIR MAIDEN HOSTCLITTY. IT IS I, MARVEL_ANIME_TRANSGENDER_RESPECTOR_69420 THAT SHALL DEFEND YOU FROM THIS EVIL, TRANSPHOBIC, XENOPHOBIC, FAR-RIGHT FASCIST INVADER CHUD
>DO NOT SULLY YOUR HANDS MY MAIDEN FOR I SHALL BANISH THIS EVIL FUCKING NAZI TRUMP SUPPORTING CHUD GOD I FUCKING HATE HIM SO MUCH FROM OUR WORL-ACK
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>>486919242
Why is it okay for things to remain vague in Dark Souls, but not in Elden Ring?
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>>486919048
tentacle monsters want to rape miquella
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>>486913803
>>486918205
>>486918435
>>486919236
And here's the speed of a curved greatsword in Elden Ring. What a slog.

>>486918568
>where are you getting these
I'm recording them from my old DS3 builds.
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>>486919190
i replayed with the only objective of being making pvp builds
so each run felt like a puzzle run trying to figure out the most potent cheese to cheese the entire game at level 9, 30, 60 etc
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>>486919160
>spoonfeed me Dark Souls lore
No. I'm not here to prove to you that Dark Souls had less gaps. I'm here to speak to the facts and the truth.

>>486919409
Less things remained vague in Dark Souls overall than have in Elden Ring and Mioyazaki said the same thing about more Elden Ring as he said about more Dark Souls when the 3 DLC hit so....
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>>486919171
pfbh
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PLEASE don't fuck my sopping wet pussy tarnished-saaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
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>>486919397
i heard ur jewish
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>>486919397
Get new material.
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>>486919469
Why is this an issue? I personally didn't like how fast DS3's weapon animations were, because it made the game feel less like an RPG and more like an action game inspired by Bloodborne.
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>>486919508
>No. I'm not here to prove to you that Dark Souls had less gaps.
I accept your admission of defeat. have a nice day anon

>Less things remained vague in Dark Souls overall than have in Elden Ring
you are comparing a smelly shit to a slightly less smelly shit. they're both vague and unfinished, and equally bad
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>>486919409
Dark Souls is unironically much less vague than Elden Ring. It has just as many dead-end lore bits and loose threads but does a much better job of distinguishing what's actually important to the world and what's just fluff.
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>getting more connection errors after doing Seamless invasions all day yesterday and winning most of them
I think people have been blocking me.
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>>486915848
A weapon that's thematic for a rock heart to use, so either something that makes me move like a dragon or something that highly compliments a naked dragon build
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>>486919508
>Less things remained vague in a game that is much smaller than Elden Ring
Well, yeah. It seems like you have a double standard.
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>>486918832
>>486917320
Fucking lmao that literally just happened to me and my brother last night.
We were in the Storehouse and he got teleported outside the map and put in a grab animation.

Insane how common this is now...
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>>486919598
I don't think I will
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>>486919347
tying ymir's dialogue to a mother of crucibles instead of the literal mother of fingers, which he is himself trying to become, is the stretchiest stretch of stretches you could stretch. Everything he speaks of relates to Metyr and the Two Fingers and none of it the Crucible.
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>>486918776
No, it still exists, it just has a red lock next to it
>>486917489
Google Docs is probably next, once I figure out how to do the thing that anonymizes everyone
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>>486919727
because enemies in elden ring are way faster than in ds3
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>>486918653
>fuck all of you
Look at this Elden Ring drone.
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>>486919727
Because wielding a sword like a retard is embarrassing to see, which is the problem with all the greatswords in all the games which lead to these webms being posted. Being faster is enough for some people.
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>>486919938
Not him but is it because invasions are way shittier now?
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Dancing Lion no hit is making me crazy holy fuck
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Okay, I’ve ruminated a bit on the crucible and want to present my thoughts.

>a dragon is made up of aspects of serpents, lions, and birds. It has the head and tail of a serpent, wings of a bird, and the legs of a lion. The hornsent can be seen worshiping at least two of these aspects (lions and birds). But what of the serpent aspect? Could there be traces of serpent worship in hornsent culture? If the hornsent worshipped aspects of the crucible related to dragons, was the dragon seen as the ultimate form of the crucible?
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>>486919938
Do you keep losing and can't get good videos?
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>>486917776
Miyazaki read some of the foot fics there and he decided he didn't like one. Bam, entire thing hit.
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>>486917380
i dont get it, are they expecting writefags to attach a "btw i hereby consent to my sloppa getting archived" to the end of all their posts? have these niggers never used 4chan before
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>>486919915
It's not a double standard. They could've given us more and chose not to.

The Shadow Sunflower Blossom could've been a paragraph about Scadu lore. They chose to tell us to fuck ourselves. Imagine if we got the Dark Souls 2 DLCs and never got any actionable lore about the three lost kings of thre lost crowns trilogy?
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>>486919727
>Why is this an issue? I personally didn't like how fast DS3's weapon animations were, because it made the game feel less like an RPG and more like an action game inspired by Bloodborne.
Elden Ring's combat is a downgrade and if you want a RPG go and play a Square Enix game.
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>IT IS I, TRANS_SISSY_BIBISI_SLUT1995 AND I'M MAKING IT A POINT TO SHOW THESE NAZI REDCHUD INVADERS WHO'S THE BOSS!!!
>THIS STUPID FRICKIN NAZI WILL NEVER REACH ME UP HERE, I JUST HAVE TO WAIT FOR BLUESISSIES TO SHOW UP AND PUNCH HIS RACIST ASS!!!
>YASSSS YOU GO BLUESISSY GET THAT FRICKIN NA-ACK
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hey man how's it goin
>homing sleepy arrows
>spread sleepy bolts
>spread rot bolts
>blindspot
yeah
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>>486919960
no they aren't, you just think they are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjylpjPY3us
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>>486919347
See my rumination post that I typed before seeing your post:
>>486920156
Could the mother of crucibles be a dragon?
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>>486919759
Elden Ring makes literally everything a fucking question. Marika's motives are still completely unknown. No one can give you an actual fucking answer. There's like 8 types of death and fire and they're all bad and different and who fucking knows anything about any of them. Even the most developed ending thread, Ranni's, is so god damn fucking vague and speculative with nothing to even truly imagine of the next order. Every Souls game it was a simple affair to imagine where the endings lead. We knew what Gwyn wanted, etc.
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>>486919727
They're all technically action rpgs. There is some balance to both aspects but as things go on it leans a bit more action.
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>>486920271
>have these niggers never used 4chan before
>Fanfic site admins
>Use 4chan
Anon, I.....
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>>486920453
players like this make me want to hack, just to make them miserable
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>>486920350
>Elden Ring's combat is a downgrade
From what? R1 and roll: the game? R1 and circle strafe: the game?
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>>486920507
Yeah?
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>>486919350
kek
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>>486920479
Its hard to understand another person's motives truly. Even they could be lying to you, even Gwyn could've had many different motives for what he did, like the glory of a continuing dynasty or fixation on hatred for humans or wanting his progeny to continue and prosper.
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>>486920507
this site is much more mainstream than you might think
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>>486919938
The Based Department needs you to get onto Seamless and show these hostclitties that their safe space isn't safe anymore.
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>>486920479
Welcome to real life
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>>486920604
>Multiple posts and webms about the downgrade in weapon speed
>Dumbass then asks "From what?"
There comes a point where playing ignorant to the facts is just spam.
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>>486919940
it's called extrapolation anon. the game has a strong driving theme of parental and familial relationships, and the DLC doubles down on that theme to make it a central driving story beat. that we have been introduced to multiple "mother of ____" entities, one of which we fight in the flesh, it's short-sighted to assume that the mother of crucibles would be the one that isn't alive and didn't bare any children, doubly so when it's an explicit lore point that the crucible of life is considered to be the source of all life in the lands between.
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>>486920764
>everyone could just be lying
yeah okay but in reality it's a pretty straightforward divide and the most esoteric of Souls endings was merely distinguishing between Usurpation of Fire/Lord of Hollows vs End of Fire vs DS1 Dark Lord, but it really doesn't matter because the overall themes are clear, the motives were no so esoteric, and most of the actors and everything in the world was simply more straightforward and directly explained.
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>>486920990
Again, why is it better that it's faster? I seem to remember everyone salivating over the "deliberate", "weighty" weapon animations of DS1 and even DS2 (despite its shit animation quality). Just as I remember people mocking DS3 when it came out for being an abominable chimera of Dark Souls and Bloodborne, a weird action game that was both and neither of its influences.

Historical revisionism is a trip.
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>>486919868
beast claws imo
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>>486920592
just give yourself a curse dagger or something
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>>486921241
>I seem to remember everyone salivating over the "deliberate", "weighty" weapon animations
Being the loudest doesn't mean everyone.

Anyway, I ain't interested in discussing this with you because you're just trolling to waste my time.
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>>486920867
Real history is easier to uncover than Elden Ring history actually
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>>486921241
I replayed DS1 a few months ago and it shocked me how easy and slow the whole game was
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>>486904464
That's not how it works because we could physically go to the roots in the base game already.
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>>486920271
The message literally says they received a complaint, anon. This is a generic, automated warning, which almost certainly means a DMCA claim was filed against that work.
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>>486902280
>melina was messmer's sister
If she was one of the oldest demigods, why was she struck from history and had her body burnt to ash?
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>>486920465
honestly I think the mother is either silver itself, or the entity that silver came from. the albinauric blue silver set says "Blue silver is a metal born from the same mother as the archers themselves, and provides protection from magic and frost. " and the text dump has unused text referring to the set as being made from "motherly silver" (see pic)

my headcanon is that the fatherly gold of the greater will joined with the motherly silver of the crucible, and that relationship is what bore life.
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>>486917380
i don't get it...
why only now...
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Monkey's paw
>get rid of Mohg x Miquella fanart fags
>gain Miquella x Radahn fanart fags
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>>486921693
nothing says she's one of the oldest demigods, every demigod is related to every other demigod. what little we know of her implies she was born very late with an explicit purpose tied to marika's plan of burning the erdtree.
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>but the enemies in Elden Ring are anime fast!
>the weapons NEED to be fast!
>they're playing Sekiro-Borne on crack while we're playing Dark Souls 1! [unzips L2 and deletes the boss's HP bar]
>you definitely can't get off fully charged R2s against bosses, even Radahn! after his slash, double slash, overhead slash, shock wave string, or his bloodflame attack, or his command grab, or his 5-hit telegraphed combo in phase 2, or his gravity drill, or...

>>486921485
It's comically slow and easy, but that's not a bad thing. It's just a different experience. You can sleepwalk through DeS, DS1, DS2, and a good portion of DS3 and Bloodborne.

>>486922062
I'll accept the latter because it also produced a lot of seething Miquella fanboys.
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What are you supposed to do against people who spam sleep arrows in the arena? It feels impossible to hit them and even when I dodge the arrows I still get sleep build up.
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ATTENTION /ERG/ you're all my waifus. Every last one of you. This general and it's denizens are my consort.
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>>486922062
notice the common problem?
Miquella
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>>486921693
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I want the next from game to offer "spells" attached to weapons/catalysts, no colossal weapons, instead a built in mainhand & sidearm set up like in Bloodborne. Focused on colonial era/1700-1800's fairytales. Lots of blackpowder & sabres. Witches & gingerbread & blood
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>>486922170
Stop playing arena and wait for FromSoft to just implement a no items ruleset
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>>486922143
Now try strafing THIS
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>>486922143
>miquella fanboys seethe so i get to read more funny schizoposts
>the only fujo that actually likes the couple eats good
Win won for me
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>>486922101
>what little we know of her implies she was born very late with an explicit purpose tied to marika's plan of burning the erdtree.
literally nothing implies anything about when she was born and burnt originally, and in fact points it it being a long time ago that she did anything with a corporeal body
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>>486922323
Okay, give me a minute
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>fsg webm
yawn
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>>486922143
>It's comically slow and easy, but that's not a bad thing. It's just a different experience.
speak for yourself. DS3, bloodborne, skeiro, and ER have ruined DS1 and 2 for me
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>>486922543
>/dsg/ is better at the game than we are
No...............
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>>486922319
Never going to happen, so what cheese can I use to shit on sleep spammers?
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>>486922371
she was born under the erdtree with the explicit purpose of burning it. the only time marika would have even considered doing this was when she had created said plan, so at the OLDEST melina is younger than ranni/rykard/radahn.
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>Miquellafags completely take over
>literal shota porn being posted
>"stop watching porn" posters completely silent
Strange. Almost as if... Hmmm...
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>>486920592
i remember back in the ds3 days some guy teleported me to the beginning of the game because i beat him lol

>>486922170
be gay and use 2 hand thrusting sword or 2 greatspears
though most of the time they're lazy and boring so i just nagakiba them instead
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>>486922891
meds
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>>486914285
When in doubt assume it's a boy
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>>486922996
no pvp allowed in /erg/
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>>486922101
>>486922371
Her being implied as being messmers sister makes people think she was born around the same time as him and messmer is older than at least one of the carian kids so he was born during godfrey's reign
>item descriptions in the base game says marika's kids with godfrey are the oldest
>item descriptions in the dlc says messmer "was like an older brother" to radahn, meaning while not his full brother(shares both parents) he was still older than radahn
Meaning messmer predating at least radahn, and is the product of some sort of affair between marika and radagon, as, godfrey was elden lord and already had kids with marika by the time messmer was conceived
>messmer shares the red-hair and butterfly association with the rest of radagon and marika's kids.
>>486922851
This is true. She formed the plan at least shortly before she banished godfrey as she banished him with the entire intention of him coming back when she called upon him and his men
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>>486922323
>Now try strafing THIS
Luckily Ongbal has, so I don't have to
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>>486917380
>not having permission
This feels tacked on desu, I dont think anyone actually expects anons posting fics on 4chan to give permission for their stuff to be archived
Any idea what might cause a copystrike?
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Do you have competitions with your Empyrean wife?
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>>486923307
Cute.
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>>486922143
>Webm
All you are doing is showing that Elden Ring's difficulty is no different than memorizing a book word for word.
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PLEASE POST MORE PVP WEBMS IM NOT JOKING WHEN I SAY THIS IT MAKES MY GF EXTREMELY HORNY FOR SOME REASON WHEN I SHOW THEM TO HER
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>>486923547
please do not lie on /erg/, friend
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>>486923441
And all you're doing is coping
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>>486923547
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>>486923537
I used to be against twinking in DaS1, but ER is so one host sided that I've warmed up to it.
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>>486922851
>Me, I'm searching for my purpose given to me by my mother inside the Erdtree long ago, for the reason that I yet live, burned and bodyless.
>There is something for which I must apologize. I've acted the finger maiden yet I can offer no guidance, I am no maiden.
>My purpose was long ago lost...
> I shall depart to ascertain the purpose I was given.
>My purpose serves to aid in that very act.
>My purpose was given to me by my mother. But now, I act of my own volition.
All of this is talking about her purpose of her now bodyless form. This was not her original life.
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>>486904470
The whole Shadow Realm map jigsaws right into the missing middle of the main maim that is just ocean now.

The Suppression Tower plaque says that it is the center of the Lands Between. The suppression tower is likely the source of the spell that suppresses the center landmass into the Erdtree's shadow. It's where Marika puts all the shit she wants gone or hidden, like the Hornsent, Messmer and the Divine Gate.
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Nosebleed
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>>486923537
Did that blue have 1500 HP, how the fuck
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>>486923404
>biggest aeonia tops
Do you guys really want this?
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>>486923703
Dark Souls 1 twinking was pure cancer. Most of the players doing it were there to fuck up your file by closing off hard earned shortcuts, killing NPCs, or permanently destroying your equipment, and there was nothing you could do as you were dealing less than 3% damage per hit on them. It was not a good time.
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Tried invading today. The decent players washed me but I beat most of the retards and viglets. Still doesn't feel like I earned it.
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>>486923678
Given the levels of the players there and your weapon choice, I'm going to assume you're something like 54 STR 60+ Arcane? If so, why not make the weapon Heavy? It's still better as Heavy even if you had 80 Arcane.
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>>486923703
In Dark Souls 1 it was just stupid. There's no practical difference between a cheater and an invader who can one-shot you while taking a negligible amount of damage. They struck a good balance between host and invader power in Dark Souls 3, but then went full retard in Elden Ring because that wasn't good enough apparently.
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>>486923809
I've yet to see a map aligned in a way that actually fits so cleanly without utter insanity going on like layering shit under and around Leyndell etc. I believe it's not intended to be 1:1 with the other game world myself.

> It's where Marika puts all the shit she wants gone or hidden, like the Hornsent, Messmer and the Divine Gate.
We know she's keeping the veil over it, or at least was the one who established it, but we don't really know that she's the one directing death to it or if that's some natural consequence of the land or whatever the fuck.
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>>486923669
Cope with what, another boss script that I have to learn with repeated attempts just to delude myself into thinking I'm skilled when I stop getting hit.
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>>486923703
>>486923945
I remember being like 12 on Xbox 360 ds1 back on the day doing a sl1 run just so i could invade in the undead burg and black flame hosts to 1 shot them and collect hatemail. I miss those days man. But I know I'm part of why Invasions are so one sided for hosts now
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>>486923945
>mage who gained a single level
>dusk crown
>demon firesage staff
>DLC magic
>kills every player he can invade in one hit

The DS1 experience.
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>>486924015
PvP in this game is dogshit, plain and simple
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>seamless invasion in Ranni's Rise
>the pacification field is active on me but not the host party
Can't wait to run into ganks here when people figure out exactly what causes it.
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>>486924058
54str 80arc
and it's occult because I was just messing around and switched it from blood, I didn't check how much heavy would do
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Anyone else think it's hilarious how alcohol falls under the rot god's domain?
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devoina hammer big dissapointment having same ashas orfdivs very siully
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>>486924245
I beat Margit on my first try on my first playthrough of the game. You can beat bosses without learning their movesets 100%, except perhaps some of the DLC bosses like Radahn or Messmer). You're just bad at the game. It's not hard. It just requires preparation and observation, a lot like Dark Souls.
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>>486924327
>Don't want to deal with DS1 twinks
>Play offline
>Comfy mode
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>>486924461
People are already trying to gank in Renalla's chamber by summoning spirit ashes lmao.
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>>486924494
Yet another reasons why Malenia would hate being its empyrean.
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Is there any reason to use Scholar's Armament over Magic infusion if int is my primary stat? I'm guessing armament is just a way for people to get bonus magic damage on non-int builds?
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>>486924058
>>486924479
that's actually really weird, you wouldn't expect it to be better in str even while occult has a C in str and B in arc
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>>486923920
As if invading upward wasn't enough, summons can daisy chain the upward invasion range.
>level 20 can invade up to 42
>level 42 can summon up to 56
Pre-DLC, if you invaded at level 20 you could end up fighting someone with 2,059 HP with a Vagabond start.
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>I shall remember thee, Tarnished
>Smould'ring with thy meagre flame
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>>486924015
Invading in Elden Ring is the worst invading has ever been. Given the clear advantages hosts have, a decent team will always kill you unless you get lucky or they have one glaring fault you can exploit (i.e. retarded viglets or fat rolling etc.) Just watch the most meta slave youtubers stream. Anytime they come up against a team that aren't braindead retarded, they die instantly. And even then, they struggle against retards and have to rely on their cheated consumables or constant weapon switching and ash spamming to do anything at all. Hell, you can watch the less meta slavey players like Oro who have been invading since DaS1 days and see how much they get shit on constantly.

When I invade, I usually only do it on some meme one-shot build or some meme RP build to do silly shit. Trying to play something more basic like STR is just asking to get shit on by anyone with half a braincell. And being forced to sweat hard even against PVE shitters is embarrassing.

I'm honestly surprised people take this shit so seriously when the PVP in this game is utterly dreadfully bad.
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>>486924494
Wait, what?

Why didn’t they make a cured/unafflicted Malenia as Miquella’s consort?
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>>486923307
>comparing who can throw out the most moons with ranni
>comparing who's aeonia is higher with malenia
>comparing how many rats you can eat with rya
>comparing how much wind you can generate with nepheli
>comparing how many spells you know with sellen
>comparing how many people you've killed for miquella with leda
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>>486924681
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with gankers they're far more mentally ill than the niggerest of invaders
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>>486921639
Who would file a DMCA against some writefagging on a fanfic site though? Its not like scribeanon was uploading the full ER lorebook on there. If fanfics = copyright stirke then all fanfic sites would be dead
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>>486924506
it's very good
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>>486924418
Yeah.
>invade abyssal
>kill phantom, host runs away, summons hunter
>kill hunter
>another hunter jumps me and I die
I ignored the second prompt not realizing it was a second hunter. Also got gangbanged in a catacomb by a sleep shotgun. Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>486924919
redniggers deserve it
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>>486924919
>what the fuck is wrong with gankers
They're Chinese
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>>486922891
>literal shota porn being posted
where
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>>486924739
There is different levels of scaling even if something says "A" it's not the same as another weapon that says A. The Sword Lance is closer to a Great Weapon. It's A is closer to S.
Still, given the combo potential and it's high bleed, I still think it'd be better as Bleed over Heavy.
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>>486924509
>I beat Margit on my first try on my first playthrough of the game
And yet you showed a clip of your knowledge check because of repeated playthroughs. You don't have an argument when it comes to scripted boss patterns being nothing more than learning a book word for word and you know it.

>You're just bad at the game. It's not hard.
I've beaten the game twice and the DLC once without playing online or watching any playthroughs before completion like I always do with Fromsoft games. All you're doing is projecting because you're a sensitive little boy over anyone criticizing Elden Ring.
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>>486924848
A huge part of the problem for me is that so many fucking areas are just bonfires next to boss fogs/a short jog away with no enemies to it. So many fucking places you invade and the host was just summoning guys at the fog to fight it. They either effortlessly gank you or walk through it and it all wastes your time. They need to change this fucking design, it's just garbage. If I'm invading I want to actually invade people going through levels, but so much design in ER gives you the checkpoint right at the boss so you never have to repeat or have any kind of run through of anything. Maybe a fifth of my invasions are someone actually going through somewhere.
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>>486914595
It's shadowkeep. The red gem at the top is messmer.
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>>486924860
Because and I'm not joking here according to cut content malenia was meant to be our consort if we sided with miquella
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Why even have eternal sleep when almost everything is either immune to it or requires so much of it that they just die before it can proc?
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What stats should I use for Spear of the Impaler?
It scales better with Dex, but Faith affects the fire damage, meaning a good part of the weapon art. So, I don't know.
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>>486923945
>invading Cathedral Ward
>take my time running through the place closing off every single gate in the area
>track down host afterwards
>kill him in one hit with sharpy spike wheel (he was already weakened and probably out of vials)
>get some crybaby hatemail
>invade another wolrd's Cathedral Ward
>repeat
Good times. I wish ER allowed invaders to do fun shit like this. I kill you, you just respawn and get your souls back a minute later. When I close off shortcuts and set you back half an hour of progress, I have imprinted myself upon your game experience, like I've fucked you in an alley. ER is missing that.
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>>486925472
LE LORE
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I don't understand why the rot is vomit puke everywhere else but on Malenia it's flowers, butterflies, and giant beautiful glowing blooms.
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>>486924919
Do you not know what griefing is?
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>>486925472
Is there anything at all it can even be used on?
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>>486925409
Maybe you should stop invading then
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>>486925472
is there difference between sleep and eternal sleep in pvp?
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>>486917380
>Delete the archive
>Reupload it
>This time claim (you) wrote all of it
Its literally that easy, how are they gonna prove you didnt?
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>>486923229
The dodge looks cool and feels good to pull off but I hate how you have to disengage from the fight for like 10 full seconds.
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>>486925615
Trolls. They fall asleep super fast and do not wake up while you hack them to death.
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>>486924860
>>486925462
Yup. All the empyreans were meant to be options originally, and Millicent was supposed to literally be Malenia with amnesia.
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>>486925575
There are butterflies and blossoms in all the other rot areas to one degree or another.
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>>486925462
Fuck, that would have been great. Why did they butcher the dlc so badly?
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>>486925528
40 dex + rada icon for max cast speed
60 fth for messmers orb
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>>486924919
From my experience, the worst kinds of Gankers tend to be either Chinese or South American. Sometimes Russian.
I wish I could just region block all of those players. Probably instantly fix all of my problems desu
Hell, my block list looks like a fucking Chinese and Russian Phone Book.
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>>486925632
the "REEE YOU DIDNT HAVE PERMISSION" shit is a smokescreen, the real issue is some faggot ordered a copystrike, most likely because of the song edits that probably caused some Sony exec jew somewhere to piss himself in rage
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>>486925462
>every single ending of this game involves you getting married to a woman either marika or ranni becoming their consort
>dlc cut ending was siding with miquella and getting malenia as your consort despite neither of you bring god or elden lord of the age respectively
>the only ending you DONT get married in is the ending where you side with a fire that wants to destroy everything and who's voice is named after a jewish demon
What did miyazaki mean by this?
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>>486925782
Fromsoft is a mess and literally changing things days before release it's a miracle their games work at all
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>>486925528
I made a 150 build using it with 40 Dex 60 Faith.
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>>486924848
Yeah I can't pull off all of that. Only menuing I can do is keeping my first slot empty and toggling a weapon there, and I fuck that up too. Hacked consumables feel wrong also, at least starlight shards. I think this should be treated as a party game like smash.
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>before DLC
>1/10 characters use a greatshield
>after DLC
>4/10 characters use a greatshield + 1 Carian Thrusting Shield

I suck at this game
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Why are builds that mix with fire so sparse lorewise? We have fucking death/lightning mixes and ice/lightning/storm now. Why are the only mixes with fire just Bayle (with lightning) and Relanna (with magic)? Just two people?
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>>486925462
>>486925748
>>486925782
>>486926009
Don't forget guys the putrecent knight was original named "night of the gloam eyed queen" you can even see how it's blue fire was meant to be blackflame and was lazily changed. It's likely they changed it after they merged the too dlc. It's likely the cut side with miquella ending was a casualty of the cut dlc too. More gloam eyed queen more died because of that choice and so did siding with miquella
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>>486925762
Just looks like rotted meat and coral. There are some "flowers" but it's like giant buds with spikes and shit. Not like Malenia's rot. Is it because of the Haligtree? I just thought of that.
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Nothing feels better than dismantling a gank and killing the host before he can summon his buttbuddies back in. Man, fuck these people.
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>>486926208
nothing to be ashamed of anon
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>>486926009
godwyncel cope
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>>486925989
Imagine how much more fan art if we had an ending with Blaidd/Ranni doing the Age of Stars, Miquella/Malenia doing an Age of the Halig, Marika for Age of Fracture/Age of Fel Omen, Fia/D(?) doing Age of Death, & unmarried for Goldmask's Perfect Order/Frenzied Flame

Basically you'd have a male & female choice for any marriage ending
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>>486926383
VGH.....KINO....
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>>486925181
"Scripted boss patterns" is a reductive, pedantic way of referring to how FromSoft has always designed bosses: by contextually selecting moves based on the player character's actions and position relative to the boss. The rules of the game have barely changed.

Bosses use projectiles and try to close the distance when the player character uses items or projectile attacks when far away. Bosses select their attacks based on their distance from the player, and almost all of these attacks are telegraphed with an animation that can be identified and reacted to after being seen once or twice. Bosses decide to stop or continue their attack chains depending on the player's position. You do not need to memorize every single thing a boss does in order to beat them. All you need to do is find one or two attacks that you are confident you can safely react to and punish, or alternatively find a way to initiate aggression that is either sufficiently safe or a winning trade. For example, jumping in against Rellana with a jumping R2 and not pressing a button to low profile half of her attacks is actually incredibly safe and enough for many players to beat the fight without memorizing her moveset, and this is easy to realize because many players spam jumping R2.

Nothing has changed significantly, the system has simply been refined to be faster-paced and, in Elden Ring's case, rebalanced around the stance break system (as Bloodborne's was rebalanced around the rally system, and Sekiro's around its own, more specific stance break system). I haven't even watched more than 5 minutes of this video, but I guarantee it does a better job of explaining why the arguments about Elden Ring being either "too difficult" or "rote memorization" are fallacious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZLQCRs3WVQ
Now fuck off.
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>>486926189
Unfortunately, you and I are in the minority. I don't like cheated consumables either, but every second person I invade has them. Using Starlight Shards like candy or throwing Hefty Rot Pots at me, and of course, I struggle to cleanse it because Rot Boluses cannot be bought and farming them is pure cancer and of course trying to cleanse it using Flame Cleanse Me is so incredibly slow, you can only use it once you're out of range otherwise you're inviting yourself to get shit on.

I barely invade these days because of how fucked it is.
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>>486925661
I really don't mind it even though I hate it in the base game. The Erdtree Avatar's golden land attack is the same thing essentially: you have to stop playing the game and strafe at a distance, and there's no other way to deal with it as far as I know. But Radahn's (and Midra's, for that matter) big "run away" moves feel way shorter to me. Or maybe I'm just glad to get a break from Radahn kicking my ass for 10 seconds.
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why did they do it
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only thing i hate is when bosses don't do their phase change move on time or a scripted move gets delayed so you gotta move back some for radahn to jump for his triple meteor attack consistently.
prob doesn't do it if you don't R2 or something idk.
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>>486924848
I've been invading at 200 on seamless for the last couple days and it's nothing like that, most of the hosts are terrible and do not shit on invaders constantly
I get occasional ganks with greatsword of damnations or bleed backhand blades, but pretty rarely
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Is a Fth first Arc second dragon build viable? There's a whole lot more cool fth weapons than arc...
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>>486926591
>31 minutes
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>>486926962
yea
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>>486925989
Miyazaki is antisemitic
>group who worshipped the aforementioned Jewish demon were all wandering merchants
>hornsent consider themselves "the chosen people"
>the fell god, a god that is described as having made a deal with the northern, tall, giants to their detriment, and hinted at being fucking awful to and for them, has a massive beaklike nose
>not always being the giant's god implies it subverted their culture and ingrained itself within them quite literally
>fell god was also one of the gods of the hornsent even if it's not their main god
Every single objectively bad faction or entity in elden ring is jewish in some way.
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>>486926963
The bigger the retard, the bigger the pill they need to swallow
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Still have not recovered from gaining the knowledge that a tiny hammer weapon does more stance damage with Lion's Claw than any colossal sword.
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>>486926528
Within the first hour of ER's release, multiple items got their descriptions altered because From still wasn't finished trying to make a consistent story.
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>>486923170
Messmer and Melina are born before Godfrey is Lord. Then Godwyn is her firstborn with Godfrey.
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>>486926838
Yeah erdtree golden land sucks ass too, same with elden stars. If the "correct" way to dodge an attack is to run away for 10+ seconds it shouldn't be in the game. Also if you want to take a breather just break the boss poise and land a crit, conveniently the stupid run away moves let the boss reset their poise so its really just cucking you out of playing the game and getting a break.
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>>486926643
I might make an exception for rot boluses if I get fed up. At least they're actually farmable.
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>>486926357
You can find the Aeonian butterflies around all the rot places, and Caelid has a lot of prettier buds blooming on some of the growth if you look around.
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I know that Ranni was a pure frost caster build, but I still would have liked a boss battle with her prime demigoddess form playing out like lady Maria with magic spam. It would have been a callback to the other doll from BB as well.
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>>486926532
>tarnished could've married blaidd
I'm normally not into furry guys but I wanted him to impregnate me so badly
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>>486927031
miquella isn't a jew
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>>486926962
minimum fth for spell requirements then max arc for damage
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This axe is nuts on everything except Radahn where it doesn't do much damage at all for some reason.
This is the polar opposite scenario though.
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>>486926591
>"Scripted boss patterns" is a reductive, pedantic way of referring to how FromSoft has always designed bosses
God you're so full of shit. Fromsoft has for the most part done reactive boss patterns until Elden Ring. Many people have been commenting on bosses like Romina for being more traditional with telegraphed moves. That is evidence in itself.
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>>486922543
hey that's my post. also my webm, which is not associated with any general in particular, it's mine.

i checked in on enb and there's no way he's getting to the DLC. it doesn't matter anyway because he's already decided he dislikes it, in his own words.
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>>486926962
yes but it's suboptimal for casting
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>>486925575
The more you suppress it the uglier it gets.
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>>486927196
Ranni traces her descent from Fool's Idol, so her boss fight would play homage to that if it existed.
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>>486927284
>Romina for being more traditional with telegraphed moves
Ironically she can just do that butterfly storm and get frame 1 chip damage in a very big area if you aren't careful. Everything else is slow, Messmer is more telegraphed though.
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I think DaS2 made a lot of annoying mistakes
But being able to infuse and buff weapons that already infused with an element was kino and should come back
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>>486927415
ranni is just a shitty mary sue

>>486927284
am i bad if i thought romina and midra were the best boss fights in the dlc if not elden ring full stop
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>>486927196
The same reason you can't fight marika(not radagon) is the same reason you can't fight ranni. They're your intended wives, miyazaki refuses and cuts any potential endings where you could marry anyone else. You're not black or Italian or Irish. You don't beat your spouse(s)
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Can anyone help me understand why Midra is objectively the best boss Fromsoftware has ever made?
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>Moore
>sad and pathetic personality
>has the build of a metaslop poiseblob cheater
>best routes for you to take with him are to tell him to kill himself or never interact

I think from was trying to tell us something
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I will be cheating deflect tear onto every character from the start from now on.
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>>486908127
PPFFFFFFFTHHHHHHBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBLBLBLBLLBBBBBBBBB!
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>>486927563
But Malenia/Millicent and Miquella were originally wives as well, and we fight them.
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why does Ranni say we sullied her name in ainsel river
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>>486927210
Yeah, Blaidd is a strong enough character to not make me think off him as a furry. Plus I figured a LOT of people would've wanted to fuck him.
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Been thinking of starting a more roleplay heavy run of elden ring, but i havent developed a ruleset to encourage more of a roleplaying style of gameplay
Some of the current ideas
>Have to eat at least every other day/night cycle, anything is pretty fine
>Minimizing chance of death when it would be painful for my character
>Can only run past enemies if it would make sense to do so (say, a bunch of sleeping overworld knights or stealthing trough a room with slow walking and going behind backs)
>Crafting and cheese encouraged as long as it isnt some AI exploit like with O'Neil
Already beat the game twice (once as my first save, a second time as RL1 Claymore only, have never summoned) but i dont know what attitude i should take around summons or changing weapons around (ideally making a rule that makes sense in universe to not just go ranged or poise abuse with one weapon that i find too good)
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>>486927284
>1 line non-argument that addresses nothing in the post
i'm accepting your concession as a third party

sorry you got filtered by the video game, bye
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>>486924848
Invading was worst in Dark Souls 1, because the buggy and terribly implemented networking system meant you spent hours of downtime just sitting around searching in a dead world instead of actually playing the game.
2nd worse is Bloodborne, because it decided to reuse DaS1's broken system instead of the working one DaS2 had and that meant assloads of downtime and connection issues, on top of limiting you to targeting coop squads most of the time

Elden Ring's invasions are nowhere near as bad as those. It's basically just DaS3 invasions but now with integrated wex dust, and in a lot of ways it's easier to beat a gank in Elden Ring than it was in DaS3.
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>>486927657
>has the build of a metaslop poiseblob cheater
he's not what his armour makes you think
he's a kindred of rot under all that
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>>486925823
>>486926108
Yeah I may try that I guess.
I'm running 80 dex and 20 faith just for buffs and healing, but I may switch and try incantations, since I never really use them.
Any other weapons that would be good with 40 dex and 60 faith?
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>>486927548
>am i bad if i thought romina and midra were the best boss fights in the dlc if not elden ring full stop

No, you simply enjoy the telegraphed bosses that you can react to. They feel fair because when you get hit you know it's your fault.
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>>486927548
No, they're really good.
Romina is kinda just there though while Midra and Messmer have way better presentation so they're better.
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>>486916624
OH NO NO NO NO WE GOT TOO COCKY WRITESISTERS
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>>486927636
No cause Bayle is. Midra & his Spook forest just felt like cut BB material
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>>486927861
>he's a filthy bugman under all that armour

it's on the nose at this point
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>>486927950
>cut
more like reused, there were winter lanterns in bloodborne and here they are in elden ring with the exact same name
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>>486927415
What's ironic is ranni is clearly one of miyazaki's OCs. Remember that he didn't full on direct demons souls? He fell for the fools idol meme too. He ruined the dlc because he couldn't stop simping for carians he had to throw in his edgy fanfic yumejo self insert bait character rellana and radahn as the final boss as he's said he is one of his favorite bosses and the cenus taken from japan shows that they like radahn the most too.

I fucking hate mooncoons and their simps so fucking much the legacy of the game now is just simping for marika, simping for ranni, "carian girls are so lovesick xddd", gay pedophile porn, femboy rape, being horny for messmer and either hating rellana out of jealousy or self inserting at her, and memeing about how malenia is a fujoshi
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>>486916624
That's so dumb, I literally wrote some of the stuff in there with the expectation that it's for yhe collectiong/would be added
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>>486928032
>gay pedophile porn, femboy rape
don't forget the incest
but at least that's realistic for royal families
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>>486927714
Originally yes. And he changed that as he didn't want them as wives. He made sure to keep it so, while you have characters that simp for you, you only have 2 options for wives because he's a fucking piece of shit yellow jew I fucking hate that mooncoon lover so much its unreal
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>>486927882
I wish I could say Ghiza's Wheel...
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>>486926591
>Pre nerf Radahn is a reddit meme
Fucking based and true
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>>486927847
>i'm accepting your concession as a third party
>sorry you got filtered by the video game, bye
You've been told a billion times already that scripted boss patterns as difficulty is shit. You simply love eating shit and have a tantrum when someone tells you that they don't.
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>>486928032
I'm going to start posting marika and miquella lewds to make you angrier
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>>486927714
Let's be honest, if Millicent = Malenia and Malenia were an option after you beat some sense into her, she'd have been the most popular girl by far.
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>>486928443
>image
oh, you're just a subhuman coomer
just off yourself lmao
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>>486928217
what did u write
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>Milady sword can use that cool stance weapon art
>worse than use putting Lion's Claw on it
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>>486928443
>>486928524
Coomers are subhuman niggers. All you miquella, ranni, and marika simps can do is post off model art or porn of your waifus because they're objectively ugly and need heavy alterations to seem appealing.
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>>486928832
what if mohg is my husbando
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>>486928024
Yeah but going through spooky woods to investigate a crumbling manor & finding a dead family/manor lord & an eldritch horror is very BB in its own right
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>>486927868
Sacred Relic Sword. Though you'd probably only use it as an Ash of War stick
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>>486928597
And you're just a cow shit eating pajeet. Sure it's difficult to eat shit, but you're deluding yourself if you think people are envious.
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>>486928921
Less annoying. Still bad. Prefer you over the drones.
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lets give invading another shot maybe I'll have some fun today
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>>486928927
oh, definitely true. i just give it a pass because i love bloodborne, but they really could've done more than just crazy rats for every enemy lol
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>>486929042
Did you remember to bring all your cheated consumables and 30+ different ash of war stick if you run into a group who knows what they're doing or at the very least, has two brain cells to put together?
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>>486929172
yeah i'll never get caught without them
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>>486928349
Like I said, I haven't watched this video in particular, but I did listen to much more of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ_9F73R1tE that I thought I would and he checks a lot of boxes
>calls Reddit retarded
>calls Joseph Anderson retarded
>calls FextraLife a cancer on the community
and a lot of common sense takes about how Elden Ring bosses are designed and how you, the player, can easily engage with these design principles to avoid falling for dumb misconceptions that are spread like a disease. I expected to click and click off of it in less than a minute like I do most long videos like this.
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>>486929224
Good luck then, anon. I give you a 10% chance of victory assuming they're not braindead retarded.
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>>486929078
The whole area could have done more. It seems spooky and cool at first but most of the madness region is just empty and there are maybe 3 things to even find outside of the mansion itself.
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>>486927809
I would say pick a spirit ash that goes with your character and stick with it. Like if youre RPing as a nox or sellian, you have the nox puppets, or if youre a mage you can use some of the sorceror ashes. As for weapons just base it around your characters backstory, a knight type would use swords of all sizes, a barbarian could use greathammers and colossals. You can go more in depth with the roleplay and be like oh he sleeps with his sword every night and thats why he refuses to use anything else or whatever. Another idea is using sets of weapons that fit together thematically, like curved swords + curved greatswords or longswords + greatswords + colossal swords.
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>>486928217
Thats goes without saying for any r/erg/ular writefag but in this case its pretty obvious some tumblr SJW fanfictranny type saw the disclaimer about it being collected from random anons and got offended
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>>486929029
white as the driven snow. imagine having off-model sfm porn slop saved to your hard drive. you must need to jerk off, you're getting uppity.
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so is nu-radahn's cock just mohg's cock, or did miquella find radahn's corpse's cock and use that? or use magic to make a new one?
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>>486929542
You still eat shit like a pajeet, that's what all your arguments are about.

Scripted boss patterns as difficulty = Eating cow shit.
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>>486929078
Imagine if it was bloodborne, the manse is filled with rats (the woods would have other monsters) & some parts are claustrophobic parts where your moving between the walls (an homage to Rats in the Walls btw) you maybe find a brainsucker & a few other enemies, you get to climb the roof top, & you find the Nanaya wandering around outside Midra's boss room cradling her baby's corpse/the madness torch, which she uses against you. You kill her, take the torch, & fight Midra. Classic From level design. Atmospheric encounters. It would've been perfect. You could place it outside of Yharnam or it's equivalent & it's be fine
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>>486928217
>>486929503
Not having permission is only the second reason they gave, the real reason is probably whatever copyright infringement >>486917380 is talking about which is more serious and what actually causes corporations to give a shit about the content on their platforms
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what are some good dlc areas to invade
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>>486928024
Don’t forget, BB had the Madras whistle that you find in the spooky forest
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>>486908795
>>486908479
it's funny whenever casuals cry about this game like it hasn't been beaten before
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>>486930036
he doesn't have one
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>>486902280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcXsuLXZs38
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>>486930096
This is the guy accusing others of projecting?
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>giant bloodfiend with a bunch of bleed dogs

yup, it's cancer
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>>486929503
>>486930446
Learn to read.
>FURTHER explains
They're saying the copyright owners are the anons who wrote the fics, so posting them is copyright infringement.
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>want to gather up a bunch of Dryleaf Arts and Dane's Footworks and infuse them with different elements to switch between them as the situation demands, for an Elemental Fist kind of run
What stats should I even be focusing on?
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Are there any good controllers to play on PC that aren't 70+ bucks or do I have to just bite the bullet? The old PS4 one I was using broke when I was like 70% through exploring the DLC.
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>>486927809
>>486929480
something that can help, or at least helps me in roleplaying runs, it to have different arcs for the character where their goals change or their outfit or gameplay
i started off a character with the intention of them wanting to be a cleanrot knight, so most of the early game was spent building to that goal, getting rot breath, antspur, etc. getting the cleanrot set and then once i feel the character is established and has accomplished that goal, moving on to the next goal which feels appropriate. for that character, they went on to seek out the haligtree so they could meet malenia, and once they did they bested her in battle and decided to take her place as guard of miquella and so followed him into the dreamworld. during that stint, i leveled up faith more and worked more incantations in and dropped rot breath for aeonia, but still stuck with the antspur because it and the brass shield go well together and are reminiscent of the cleanrot set even when paired with other sets, and then after defeating miquella finished the game with the golden order ending as that felt like the appropriate choice that would align most with miquella's choice (insofar as miquella and goldmask realized the golden order was flawed due to human nature), finishing the game with strong fth magic, decent dex weapon handling, and rot based spells (aeonia and pest threads/spears). if you stick to a single concept the entire playthrough it can get old quick, so let yourself be flexible within the rules you set up for yourself outside of the beginning, and let the character grow in whatever way feels natural

>>486930808
>having a consort without a cock
what the fuck

>>486930421
would've loved that
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>>486931023
>different elements
So you want to be shit?
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>>486931114
>>having a consort without a cock
>what the fuck
he's miquella's consort though
he is the consort
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>>486931092
just use a mouse and keyboard, it's perfectly fine
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>>486929234
I watched it and he's right, it's kinda how I approach bosses myself (Except Radahn the first time I fought because I got tired of it and I just powered through the second phase at random) and it's funny how he calls out Peeve, Oro and Scottjund for being retarded back in the DS3 days and saying gankers were impossible to beat and praises Saint for going against that, it's doubly funny because that retarded fuck Peeve has been fighting Radahn for 80 hours and he still is unable to dodge all of his attacks because he never experimented and never changes his approach
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>>486930447
ideally you skip ensis, rauh and especially the bayle cave to not get awful spawns
everything else is ok
belurat has a tree you spawn into and cant move but the area is fun to invade
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>>486930801
evergreen image
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>>486931208
the consort can top retard, miquella is clearly a bottom
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>>486930927
You're a dumbass to think I'm projecting when the anon admits to eating shit (read >>486926591). Calling scripted boss pattern as difficulty the equivalent of eating cow shit is not projection and makes no sense to do so.
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>>486931023
Could do fth/int and mess around with the new staff that casts incants and sorceries.
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Where the fuck do you find this location? I've traveled to it once long ago and I cant find it anywhere. It's going to drive me mad.
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>>486931454
actually the japanese version implies that radahn has a vagina
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>>486931670
... what?
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>>486931452
The funny thing about these is that they kinda imply the game is flawless.
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>>486902552
His taste is buff man like his mom’s first lover, not some rot-ridden skank.
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>>486931648
>anon admits to eating shit >>486926591
Looks like an articulate post. You seem to be the one obsessed with poop.
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>>486931753
second floor of red wolf boss fight
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>>486931114
He has a vagina so he can impregnate radahn. Mohg was never a guy he was a big black horned woman. If anything to go by, melina and messmer were twins, malenia and miquella were definitely twins. When people have twins they usually share the same sex distribution pattern so if they have multiple sets of twins they're more likely to be the same sex as the previous, and the previous twins were all male and female not two males or two females. This means for the omen twins one would have to be female. Morgott calls himself male but mohg never does, people just call her male because, due to her omen form, she looks like an ogre, she just doesn't give enough of a fuck to correct them. This is also how he planned on making a dynasty with miquella. Note how he names it mohgwyn, elden ring is very matriarchal, the dynasties are named after or associated with the female not the male hell he even serves a female goddess. This all means that radahn's new body is that of a female, miquella intentionally chose mohg due to her large frame capable of hosting radahns soul allowing him to fight to his full capabilities and look similar to how he did before he nigged out from spamming gravity magic for too long. Consort radahn has a man's soul and woman body. That's where all of the cuntboy radahn fanart comes from. He's was quite literally handcrafted by miquella to be his husband and bear his children.
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>>486931798
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Staff+of+the+Great+Beyond
>"Staff fashioned from the tail-fingers of Metyr, the Mother of Fingers, and the microcosm raised aloft over the crux they form. Catalyst for casting both sorceries and incantations. The Mother received signs from the Greater Will from the beyond of the microcosm. Despite being broken and abandoned, she kept waiting for another message to come."
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>>486931753
Go out of the debate hall site of grace towards Rennala, turn sharply right and go around the side of the building you were just in.
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>Invading in belurat
>Get two taunters in an almost empty level
>Kite them around for a few minutes, almost kill the phantom and host
>Get stuck in a doorway and die
>As I die another invader spawns in
>"Ok hold on I'll reinvade and we'll get a 2v2 and rape these fags"
>Reinvade the taunters immediately within 30 seconds
>The invader is already dead by the time I respawn
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>>486910807
balls deep in her as the 3rd elden lord
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>>486931961
I know what it is, what does this have to do with my wanting to play a punchy/kicky elemental monk?
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>>486931278
I tried but unless there's a specific layout that's particularly good for locking and rolling/jumping I'm too shit at it compared to how precise a controller feels in this genre. At least when it comes to the heightened special enemy/boss aggression in the DLC.
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>Host gets invaded right away
>Runs towards the boss area
>instead of immediately entering thje fog, host just starts going through an entire buff routine
>unsurprisingly, red catches up
>Instead of just entering the fucking fog, the host decides to fight the red
>...by throwing sleep pots at him and expecting the two spirits to kill him
I can't with some people
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>>486931454
The filename for the boss is MiqRad in Japan in ships the tops name often comes first. Miquella was the top
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>>486931784
>>486931953
revolting
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>>486931907
It isn't, he's talking shit from all the shit he eats.
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>>486931932
>>486931970
ty anons
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>>486931092
I use one of the newer xbox controllers, it works fine(other than the first one getting serious stick drift, but that's a known issue and I was able to go to the store and just get a new one in exchange, no questions asked)
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Hi guys, new to Elden Ring and I'm playing Reforged. Is it viable to have a character that plays with sword but also shoots magic?
How would I go about it, dex / int or dex / faith?
I'm playing my OC (Pic related) so I guess I want her to be like a bloodborne boss or something.
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>i hate the game im gonna slam my head into the wall for 100 hours even though its a chore to me

you problem'
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>>486927237
i think a lot of the stuff in this game is weak to holy
is that axe holy? or lightning
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>>486930870
>Nothing changed
Yeah we know lol
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>>486931092
I played Sekiro on a $20 switch controller but generally I don't see any need to use a controller for these games.
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the general problem with sote bosses is a combination of
1. very high damage
2. very long strings and very high number of moves in general
3. unreadable animations
4. inconsistent rules
5. long and contrived dodge patterns required to dodge some anime sequences
6. the most appalling moves are locked behind phase 2 or low health requirements or just rare

a lot of people aren't enjoying the bosses because you just have to die a million times to figure out when each attack needs to be dodged or if its going to track you horizontally and/or vertically or lunge across half the arena. and for a select few retarded sequences, just rolling isn't enough but the animations don't make it clear at all how you are supposed to dodge it an everyone has to work together on twitter until someone stumbles upon the correct magic sequences of sprinting, jumps, strafing, etc. a lot of people don't jump because the animations don't tell you what can be jumped. i started jumping on rellana when i figured out her thrust didn't track vertically but i stopped jumping on later bosses because some boss had a thrusting move that apparently tracked vertically. inconsistent rules are especially apparent in all the anime magic aoes. some can be jumped, some can't. some can't even be iframed, but others can. its learning is going to require trial and error, then damage needs to be lower. its not enjoyable to just die to everything and refight phase 1 a million times.
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>>486932447
cool drawing
closest to that would probably be a dex/arc/int build honestly, focusing on blood weapons and the more space-y spells
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>>486932156
Because int/fth would open up most of the elemental infusions for you, and if you're gonna do that you could also mess around with incantations and sorceries.
You dildo.
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>>486932560
This is just my personal taste, but I find controllers much more comfy for these kinds of games.
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>>486932615
>a lot of people aren't enjoying the bosses because you just have to die a million times to figure out when each attack needs to be dodged
i seriously do not understand the issue people are having
just summon an ash and it helps the fight become manageable if you find it too challenging to do one on one
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>>486932643
The hand to hand weapons have terrible caster-stat scaling even with the appropriate infusions for those, though.
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>>486932802
if the only options are cheese the game or just be forced to die a bunch with nothing you can do about it until you've seen every move, then maybe the game is just poorly designed
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boss of rauh ruins is some random rot bitch and the divine beast bird
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>>486931784
>>486931953
IF this is true I don't think radahnfans could ever recover? I'm seriously getting depressed right now
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>>486932826
Look man I'm just spitballing here.
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>>486932615
use the fucking crab and dragoncrest talisman and the physique and put on some armor
>my character cant eat crab cause im roleplaying a jew
biTch i dont care!!!!!!!!
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>make Faith / Int Spells and Incants
>don't make a faith / int infusion
>make Faith / Arcane spells and incants
>don't have a faith / arcane infusion
>make Int / Arcane spells and incants
>don't make a int / Arcane infusion
What the fuck are these fucking stupid fucking nips doing?
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>>486932928
>and NOT* the divine beast bird
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>>486932917
that's not even cheese, spirit ashes have always been something they intend for people to be using for a lot of encounters, even some mini bosses
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>>486932035
Just hack next time.
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>>486932932
radahnfags could never ever recover from this
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>>486931370
>he never experimented and never changes his approach
people dont' like experimenting because the game instantly kills you for it and you have to start the boss over. and a lot of the more difficult moves that you might need to experiment on dont' even occur until the boss is half health.
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>>486932917
summons aren't cheesing the game, cheesing is when you abuse systems in ways they are't intended to be used
summons are fully implemented and intended to be used as they are, if you are not having fun one on one
bosses are designed where they will switch attack targets to you if you damage them, and often ignore summons who attack them if the boss is going after you
they're not an instant win button, and if you think some are then just use some of the weaker summons so you can bring the balance down to something you feel is challenging and enjoyable
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>>486932981
I do appreciate it anon.
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>its in the game so its not cheese
objectively wrong. if it makes the game too easy and allows me to ignore learning the game then its cheese. the game is full of cheese because fromsoft is actually terrible at gameplay design.
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>>486933201
what
if i die more than two or three times to a boss, i normally reevaluate my equipment and strategy to see what's not working, or what i could try differently
do people really just choose one approach and stick with it even if it's not working?
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I just absorption stack as much as possible and monkey mash R1 with the gugs and I win 90% of my invasions and arena duels this game is so easy bruh
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>>486933203
>summons aren't cheesing the game, cheesing is when you abuse systems in ways they are't intended to be used

that's not what cheesing is, cheese is when you any strategy that completely trivializes the game
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>>486933381
>objectively wrong.
You're objectively wrong. See? I can do that too stupid.
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>>486933385
yes? watch the standard normgroid play theyd rather slam their head into margit for 9 hours then go anywhere else
people who only jump l1 attack with collosals think their opinions matter on anything
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>>486933461
summons don't trivialize the game

>>486933381
then that's why i said use summons which don't make the game TOO easy, just easier enough so that you find the challenge enjoyable instead of tedious
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Anyone else think its funny how Sellen obviously spends a lot of time taking care of her looks, only to cover it up? She's like one of the few women who actually wears makeup in Elden Ring.
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You can see his brain shutting down in real time as he realises how badly he just fucked up.
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>>486933461
if they really didn't intend for stuff like that to be used they would have certain things unusable in certain areas and boss fights
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>>486917380
For what it's worth I give you permission to save my posts for me t. Messmer appreciator who wrote the ones about not loving evil men
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>>486933602
she's doing it for her, not for others
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>>486932615
almost all of this is just patently false, lmao
>6
this one is partially true. i have no idea how you're supposed to anticipate rellana's desperation attack. it's likely to 1-shot you on your first playthrough because you'll be 3-5 skibidi, and jumping the moons isn't intuitive when you already associate the moon with running away because of rennala's fight / the spell.
>but scadutree avatar explosion
this is another move that will only hit you once (once you get hit by the beams, it's obvious that that's what you're dodging, not the explosion), but it's not a 1-shot and you're much more likely to be fighting this boss at a higher blessing level.
>radahn meteor
if only radahn had an attack in the base game where he jumps into space and then launches himself at the player's position, which can easily be countered in both instances by running in one direction.
>miquella's light
can be blocked if you think you're not going to made it, even a weapon block will save your life, and it's also not a 1-shot at 12+ blessings / 60 VIG (which you should be by then).

there is not a single move in the DLC as bad as waterfowl dance.
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>>486932447
dex int if you want o blue missiles blue swords blue arrows blue bombs blue shields
dex faith if you want actual magic spells
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>>486928619
Stuff
Idk if I wanna link together all the ones I wrote together
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>>486904464
I been saying this + to the people who say we go to its roots, you never saw the bottom of those roots did you?
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>>486933821
share one or two please
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>>486933602
Sellen is cute. So is your character.
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>>486931880
Was Maria's fetish STR or INT?
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>>486933946
>So is your character.
He's just a generic Tarnished modified from Vyke's sliders.
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>>486933779
>there is not a single move in the DLC as bad as waterfowl dance.
thankfully not but its still ass and fromsoft clearly thinks waterfowl dance is a well designed move since they haven't patched it and miyazaki himself even said they were aiming for the dlc to be malenia level difficulty.
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>>486934156
I though it was a girl like that big woman from game of thrones
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I'm here for Elden Ring
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hilarious how people level to 3000 and then refuse to use any armor, buffs, relevant talismans, consumables, shields the list goes on and fucking on

dumb bitch youre already playing skyrim
ceo of the fighters guild and president of the mages guild figure it out
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>you have to make your character look like a leukemia patient for armor proportions to be normal
>your nose size also effects helmet/mask shape somehow
I will sacrifice body aesthetics for armor to look good and not like a fucking potato
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How to dodge light slams in radahn phase 2 after the meteor?
As is I just try dodging the slam from the real one so I don't get caught in the AoE combo but the clones hit me and I don't want them to.
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>>486933724
>spoiler
based, messmeryumes own this general, everyone else is just posting in it
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>>486934647
>>486923229
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>>486934471
>>you have to make your character look like a leukemia patient for armor proportions to be normal

I already do that by default because it makes it mentally easier to dodge shit even though it doesn't affect anything
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>>486934310
Brienne? If I was playing her, I wouldn't be using the young/pretty face texture. Sides, if I'm playing a woman, I'd try to make her feminine.
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>>486934471
easy fix, just acquire a skinny girl fetish
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yeah I’ve actually had sex in my life so for me personally its gotta be all body sliders set to max with the heaviest armor I can wear, type A of course
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>>486933942
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/484947051/#484960106
Nothing long-form
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>>486935036
lol gay sex maybe lmao
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honestly i just want blaidd to take off his dumb fursuit and fuck me
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elden ring is alot better than ds3

i hate replaying ds3 so fucking much its so boring an dull the only good thing about it is the bosses
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>>486935084
cute cute cute cute
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I have had four stinking hours of sleep.
Bad morning /erg/.
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>>486935404
both games have gay incestuous brothers with the feminine one clinging onto the back of the stronger one
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>>486935508
And you can kill them both.
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>>486935328
>Imagine how weird it would be to be on your hands and knees, Blaidd's entire body pressing down on your back as he ruts into you. He's uncomfortably large, not so much that the pain overrides the pleasure, but you find yourself reaching down past your waist all the same, holding out an arm to try and keep him from thrusting so deeply. He growls and, with one quick move, clasps that arm against yourself so you can't move. You're about to protest when you feel his jaw clamp down on your neck, sending a frission of fear and thrilling submission through your body. His breath is hot and wet against your skin and a rumble of irritation rises from deep within his chest. Pinned like this, there's nothing you can do, and nothing you really want to do, but to relax and enjoy the ride. There's something desperate about his pace, more than just primal arousal. It's not just sex for him, you realize, as his tongue flicks out to tease your nape and ears. He needs this. Needs to feel you, to know you're there, solid and real and that you can't disappear into the sky like his former mistress. The thought of an Empyrean Shadow being so dependent on you is strangely titillating and you find yourself arching your back lower, giving him a better angle to piston into you. Pushing back against him now that you've got a grasp of his bestial rhythm. Ropes of thick hot drool drips from his mouth, to seep into your hair or run around your neck to pool at your clavicles. His growling is getting louder. His grip on you, tighter. Your eyes widen at the sensation of his knot, now swollen, pushing insistently against your entrance. "Wait, Blaidd-" you begin, but he cuts you off. "Going to... you... breed you..." he rumbles, his jaw still against your throat. "Put puppies in you." Imagine how weird it would be feeling the knot slip in. Imagine how weird it would be to have all of his's power and weight pinning you as he cums, flooding you, filling you up. Wouldn't that be weird?
hhhhh
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Why is the game so big and hard, I try to start and play it but feel overwhelmed like it's Skyrim 5.0 and I'm a mere bug that still has to play another 30 hours to have a useful build.

From should work on that, the first dozens of levels are just leveling int / vig / some other additional stat to even be able to play the game, then just leveling to minimum requirements for weapons or spells, etc.. Souls vanes always have this issue of taking too long to "come online".
Although I think ER addresses it better by giving you Ashes and a Horse so you feel like you're doing something cool early on.
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>>486935612
backhands were really the beginning of the end weren't they
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Aight fuck it, I've got 80 FTH, 23 STR and 18 dex and I'm a lazy bustard at the moment.

Any suggestions on what Flame Art weapon to use until I can get a Fire Knight Greatsword?

Yes I'm aware that just about anything can work, just not sure if I should be using a greatsword to get used to the swing speed or not.
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Is Carian Sovereignty actually worth building around outside an INT build? I put it on a Heavy Great Katana and it's still chunking things with Alexander + Godfrey Icon
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>>486916624
I didn't even know this was a thing, is there any backup where I can read?
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What's the most cancerous co-op'r that you've personally met / fought, anons? I'm not talking someone using cheated consumables or whatnot. Just a guy playing a "normal" build that is insanely fucking strong or hard to deal with.

I just came out of a 30 minute invasion of a guy doing nothing but spamming that Dart Spell that'd hit for 200+ each hit while the host was protecting him and basically ensuring I'd never get to do anything ever without taking constant huge chip damage.
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>>486935698
>backhands
fuck
sellswords*
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>>486935687
>Int
Typo, I meant Endurance. Dark Souls 4 should start at the equivalent of 15 vig / end to let you survive a good amount of hits by default so you can focus on other stats.
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>>486935687
bro you can run and go get 70k souls in a few minutes, and all you need is some fucking stones to become OP with weapon upgrades. When you understand the game and actually think about what you want to accomplish it's easy as shit.
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why does the sword lance get 100 ar more than all the other hts on every build
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>>486936007
From can't balance
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>>486935812
Its damage scales off INT even if you'd weapon had zero INT scaling
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y hornnigger invide?
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>>486936007
To compensate for losing the HTS’s best attack, the running R2
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>>486935640
comfy except i don't like the dog stuff
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>>486936112
Fextra says it also scales with affinity but who the fuck can trust that
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>>486936142

>expecting a Hornsent to need a reason to be shit
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>>486936187
If you're thirsting for Blaidd and not one of the other husbandos in this game isnt the dog stuff the whole point
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>>486935404
Everything before Lothric Castle and Ringed City is always bland as fuck on repeat playthroughs, probably the main reason I would say ER beats it
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>>486936112
Damn, shame. I kinda wanted sword beams on my STR/ARC build
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>>486935423
Thank you, I like writing in second person the best
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>>486936363
What parts of ER aren't bland as fuck to replay though?
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Jesus fuck those Basilisks before Blaidd's shadow are tankier than I fucking remember, what the fuck
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So Rellana's swords are shit?
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>>486936481
>int fth three way split damage
it was over before it even began
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>>486936481
Yeah
They really should've been two separate swords
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>>486936563
will int fth chads ever eat good? did they even get anything else in dlc?
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>>486936448
Fighting Godfrey. Literally the reason the game was salvaged for me.
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>>486935687
Because you're supposed to do one massive playthrough and then do NG+ or side stuff like coop/pvp all on the same character and stop between 125-200, compared to the previous games where you could quick start characters in a day or less.
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>>486936291
no, i like tall muscular guys who aren't like overly muscular like radahn
i don't like D bc his armour looks weird
rogier is not my type
varre is a bottom, again not my type
mohg is hot and all but again he's really muscly in a weird body builder way
morgott is kinda lame
godfrey is too american
radagon is a tranny
alexander is a fucking jar
hewg is a fub
gideon is a prick
shabriri is jewish
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>>486936628
there's no damage type associated with int fth so no
go play ds2 or 3 and make a dark build if you want int fth retardation
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>>486936628
int fth is actually decent for casting since they buffed the golden order seal
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>>486935404
>elden ring is alot better than ds3
No one will give a shit about Elden Ring when the next tryhard Fromsoft game is out.
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>>486935084
From one Messmer enjoyer to another, I salute you
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>>486936895
just wait for the zoomers to say "oh man elden ring! i grew up with that as a kid, it's so underrated"
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>go past a fog wall
>miss out on either swift slash or a talisman
this feels like a parody
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>>486937002
the snake looks like it's doing an ahego face lol
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I think the reason I hate Elden Ring lore so much is because its so filled with holes and open to interpretation. Its always been hard for me to express why I feel so badly about the store and lore in this game, but I think I can provide an example indirectly: Youtube lore content creators.

Dark Souls 3 had enough meat that most lore wasn't complete schizo trash. The core of the story wasn't hugely up for interpretation or anything, but people discussed the details, filling in gaps, fleshing out the connected story that we got. Then ER came along and everyone is just posting fuckin nonsense. They are all posting nonsense because you have to completely make shit up to fill in the gaps in ER. You aren't 'painting in between the lines' or whatever, you are just starting with a blank canvas in many cases.

Most people can't even explain anything related to the main character (Marika) in any kind of detail. No one has any idea what the fuck the DLC trailer showed, or what the base game ending is even about with Marika 'dying'/turning to dust. In DS(3) both the base game and final DLC had great endings. People could schizo post about what happened to Solaire and if he was that sandworm thing all day but we had closure
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>>486936720
I think I will. Dark/Abyss and the Deep is a lot cooler than ghost flame and lame skull emojies.
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>>486937154
>take one step into shadow keep
>miss out on several NPC questlines
heh
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>>486937195
Horrible post
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>>486916624
end of an era
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>>486936895
ER despite it's flaws is still the best one that isn't BB/Sekiro. DS1 would be in there too but there's pretty much no reason to replay it nowadays and the best part of the game (AoTA) is really short.
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>>486935687
For people starting out, yes you're supposed to explore and level up slowly and build slowly. For people wanting to do that part quickly (maybe NG), you just run to Caelid and kill Greyoll. When you are on NG+, you get to Moghwyn Palace quickly with Varre's questline and farm the enemies there by the Palace Approach grace with the sword you get from the Elden Beast rememberance. You get like 40k runes a pop, you can quickly build up whatever character you want. This game works best when
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>bayle phase 1
>hard but reasonable enough
>bayle phase 2
>what the fuck is even happening anymore
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>>486937002
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Fresh bread
>>486937649
>>486937649
>>486937649
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>>486937580
>This game works best when
ANON???
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>>486936895
>>486937026
Note how no one but those who started with ds3 remember or cars about it anymore. Same thing will happen with elden ring. Sekiro and bloodborne were their last games with staying power
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>>486937693
he's right desu
the only winning move is not to play
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>>486912353
The funnies thing about it is Godwyns story is fully told and actively harmed by him being revived. It would just resolve all of the deathblight/undead stuff instantly, there would be no point to it.

They just refuse to accept that Miquella is not an altruistic guy, and he resurrected his biggest, strongest brother so he could conquer the world and make his "age of kindness" (even though we're given mountains of evidence that he isn't kind at all)
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>>486937221
I agree with you but that's actually always been the case. They obviously don't plan anything or intend on answering as much as people like to pretend. I think they're mostly concept and art design focused and that's all, other aspects like lore and enemy/item placement are pulled out of their ass. The most coherent were probably BB and Sekiro but even then there's a lot of vagueness or unseen figures just to be vague.

Doubt GRRM actually had much at all to do with most of the lore or development either behind the scenes because he never elaborates or goes into detail even slightly whenever he brings it up or gets asked about it.
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>>486927548
How's ranni a mary sue, if her plans wouldn't have come to fruition without the player's input? She'd have to be an independent who needs no man and accomplish the age of stars by herself to be one, stop using terms you don't know. Not even her ending has decisively claimed that it's perfect or would be the best case scenario.
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>>486908387
know the pain sweet anon...
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>>486923937
Post the full image, please.



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