Pauling's Beach Day Edition>NewsSummer Update is live: https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=223066Bug and Desk Engineer fixes: https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=227474The 7th Comic is getting worked on: https://x.com/Wolpaw/status/1811057658004222125>Official SitesBlog: https://teamfortress.comWiki: https://wiki.tf>Frag With /tf2g/When: Friday & Saturday Afternoon. Check for posts in the thread or be the one to announce.tf2g's Official Server: 78.46.128.115:27015 (EU)Ready Up: https://tf2gfragready.b4k.co/>Other 4chan ServersWeeabootique: 198.245.61.57 (NA)Team Funtress: fun.tf2.host (NA)Castaway: Castaway.tf (NA)Konata: konata.tf (EU)>ResourcesFAQ: https://pastebin.com/Svy4uc7tMods: https://pastebin.com/8Q6bzADkPreview Loadouts & Skins: https://loadout.tf | https://weapons.tf | https://p337.info/tfviewHUDs: https://gamebanana.com/mods/cats/1644 | https://teamfortress.tv/33738Scripting: https://pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ | https://pastebin.com/R7V4cN8STrading: https://backpack.tf | https://trade.tf | https://stntrading.eu/ | https://tf2trade.tf/Stats: https://pastebin.com/0yaDyWb4Sprays: https://rafradek.github.io/Mishcatt/Creators Leaks: https://archive.is/GeYbEtf2g's Guide to Heavy: https://pastebin.com/Y7ZWgt96>Competitive News & Events: https://teamfortress.tv Lobbies & Mixes: https://tf2center.com | https://pastebin.com/vNTDF4eLLeagues: https://pastebin.com/UJ9sDAdq>Previous Thread>>492343847
kill jill
try making a non shit op every once in a while please and thank you
>>492631765sex with ms pauling
You're a GibusYou're a F2PYou play Pyro
this good op
>>492631921this is a good op actually
>>492632218some will say it is not because it has been done in the past
>>492632571yeah, exactly one time over a year ago
time to game
>>492633108awooga
>>492632807liar
>enemy team has a sniper>pick demoknight>walk around his sightline>press m2>press m1wow that was hard
>>492634280I'm not lying I literally checked the filename and image md5https://arch.b4k.co/vg/search/filename/2658809_yuanman_tf2-summer-2022.jpg/
>>492634396based trvth nvke dropper
INCOMING SPELLS MORTALS
>>492635014Stupid wizard
>>492628438Flinch distance limit is a minigun thing. As scout if I am approaching a sniper head on I pepper him with pistol shots before switching to my shotgun to finish. At a distance if there's nothing better to do I shoot him with my shotgun even if he isn't aiming at me just to fuck his shots over. >>492634334Has the right idea too. Anyone who actually plays sniper will know that every flanker is going to come to come trying to collect their free kill because most of the time that's exactly what sniper is.
POST ENGINEERS
>>492637173a fellow dogfighter chad I see
>>492637173
>>492638165bald
>>492634396what the fuck
Unusuals are a great addition to the game, in the sense that it's so fun to kill people who wear them.
>>492639590And in turn it is fun to kill people who clearly object to your having unusuals. The seethe is palpable.
>>492639038you might have been thinking of a similar image by the same artist where pauling's also at the beach but it has the selbyen seal, it's at night, and she's not gambling on crates
>>492637219>>492637795>>492639510>>492640415Cringe unusual owners
3 NIGASON CART
>>492641335holy shit it's santa
>>492639590I had 2 really good unusuals that were, for some reason, being sold really cheap on the Steam market, and then my dumb, retarded, mentally-unwell ass sold them for cheap like the dumbasses I bought them from.
>>492637173can't be asked to open the game
>>492640849>I'm too broke to customize my character in a cool way
>>492642761>unusual>coolOkay retard
>>492631765That's a very specific unusual
>>492640849>>492642913the TF logo one is cool you just have bad taste
>>492643042None of them are. Tasteless faggot.
>>492643159seething poorfag
>>492642913yea yea we get it bro you're very interesting (and poor) because you're contrarian about a popular characteristic of the game
what's the best cheap unusual effect? I like the TF logo but I want some more options, a lot of the new effects seem relatively cheap for how cool they look
>>492648407next (dot) backpack (dot) tf (slash) effectsSort by value and cosmetic slotSome of the newer summer effects are pretty cheap despite looking pretty good
>>492631765You know square is an item thief, when there's a literal meme about him stealing items
>>492649364Go back to discord
>>492645953>>492645957Unusual owners are bottom scoring women playing dress up. Even if I were a millionaire I wouldn't spend a cent on some gaudy headshot magnet proving to anyone with eyes that you have brain damage. Hats and their effects have been a disaster for tf2.
>>492649364I Don't care
>>492649364>gif>stillgo back and stay where you came from
>>492649364A lot of the emporium bigwigs blatantly steal ideas it's disgustingAnd if you call them out it's always>oh it's not 100% exactly the same so it's fine :)or>that other one was made 1 year ago it's up for grabs again :)
https://youtu.be/_NB7cLhJmHg
Do you guys feel the need to deck out the mercs you hardly play? It feels very lopsided having some completely filled out, stranged up and all that jazz and others naked. My medic and heavy for example, I never trade for items for them so they're dressed in scraps. It makes me sad to see them like that but I've yet to bite the bullet and commit to getting them something good.
>>492648407The problem with new effects is the hard you'll find them on
>>492649364Okay?! And..>1. Post concept.>2. When did you start working on it?>3. Who else is involved?>4. Post your most current WIPDubious item makers will avoid posting vital information and attempt to go off reputation alone / change the conversation / troll or joke about your enquiries.
>>492651490*hats
>>492651183cringe meme
>>492651882i am cringe but i am free
>>492652120alright I'll rephrasebad meme
>>492652342
>>492651183good meme
>>492652342I think it works better with Pyro because of his personality
>>492652903Need that retarded pyro cosmetic Because it fits me
>>492649364I think if deadlock gets workshop support and is monetise, I will make a discord one of our major rules will be..Beware dubious item makers and content creators.>>492651587>>1. Post concept.>>2. When did you start working on it?>>3. Who else is involved?>>4. Post your most current WIP>Dubious item makers will avoid posting vital information and attempt to go off reputation alone / change the conversation / troll or joke about your enquiries
>>492653150There's a shading error directly on the front
>>492653150>no style where it's completely empty
>>492653727That is one big issue.
>>492638165Absolutrly unhinged and offensively unasthetic, I like it
>>492653564where?
>>492654410Imagine nobody telling you on the emporium about your shading error directly on the left eye, light doesn't angle sharply on a rubber curved surface.
>>492653150Is this based on ThatGreyPony's style of animating Pyro?
>>492655053>Crocket>not Manntreads headed for his neck
>>492654812im guessing the creator knew that and just thought no one would notice but also its a really small error
>>492655390It's blatantly obvious It's not a small error either, it's acceptable if it's small not directly in the fov
>>492654812To be fair, the lighting in TF2 now is kind of funky.
>>492654812my left or your left
Why didn't Valve just add this?
>>492656262wow this is actually decent
>>492639510what the fuck is that background i kinda dig it
>>492653727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO1Yq7n9zLU
>>492656492That’s because it’s in the game on top of Pyro’s locker; they just never added it
>>492658561i think thats why he liked it, otherwise the cosmetic would be kinda unnecessary
>>492658561i know thats why i liked
how is quickfix not considered op i never understood that
>>492659986uber and kritz are just too good
>>492660030rarely is there enough concentrated damage to overpower a quickfix uber
>>492660190a level 3 sentry or a charged headshot are enough
>>492660190Snipers and spies shut it down. Its not as bad as everyone says but its not very good either.
>>492656262Seemingly no one had the idea until now, but you could argue Valve wanted it to be an easter egg you have to look for on your own rather than it being directly on the Pyro
>try to 'neer it up >get absolutely rekt>can't keep a device alive for more than 1 minuteDo I have to go to school for this or something? At the very least I feel like I have to study maps and where to build things because other engineers seem to be doing fine.
>>492661428Three reasons why your shit is constantly dying>you are placing it in a good spot, but too far forward>you are placing it in a bad spot>the enemy team are just raping you in generalThe easiest way is to just make sure you're not too far forward. I know there's a temptation to put the dispenser right at the front where everyone's fighting, or your sentry near their spawn, but the sentry is mostly to protect your backline/point and the dispenser is a fall back point, not a forward holding point. You don't need to study the maps all that much if you get a feel for how close your stuff should be to the front line, and when to move back when the front line is encroaching on you.As for good spots, that might require some studying, but try to find places for a dispenser where even if someone is shooting rockets at the guys near it trying to heal off it, it won't be getting killed. For instance, if you have a doorway and your dispenser is behind it, don't put it right at the corner of the doorway, put it a bit further away so splash doesn't destroy it. For sentries usually you want to defend the objective in some way, so either deny the only route to get to it or deny the objective itself. Don't put it somewhere that it can be spammed easily, but if you have to in order to defend an area, put it such that your team can cover the spam angle. For example on badwater, the cliff is a nice spot even if it can get spammed from a distance, because if your team is holding up there then they can cover that angle so your sentry isn't getting target fired. Another thing to mention is using your dispenser to influence where your team holds and falls back to can help, like in badwater putting your dispenser up on the cliff encourages your team to go up there too which helps protect your sentry while your sentry covers their rear. Last thing is just recognize that your stuff getting destroyed is part of the game. If your buildings NEVER die, the teams are unbalanced.
>>492658138>>492658379you're late
bros, i had groceries delivered today and look what was in there. i didn't even order them. what did valve mean by this
>>492662718those look gross, chuck 'em
>>492662718walmart accidently delivered it to you it was actually meant for eric smith, you've doomed us!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUogXC_Ec40
>>492662846they're garbage, but tasty garbage>>492662996oh no
>>492663146I wish the robots were actually gray and spookier with the glowing eyes instead of being blatantly blue team, and the maps reflected the atmosphere thematically with fog and being set during early morning/evening
>>492662078Good advices.
>>492656262I really like this idea but there's something a bit off. It pops out too much, I don't know. Would be nice if it blended in a bit more.
>I have 0 gamesense or positioning and I'm too stupid to coordinate an uber push against one single sentry
>>492667864>I ran directly at a power class point point blank and I got punished for it
>dominating other team>3... 2... 1.. OVERTIME!Yes and?>THE TEAM GETS MORE TIME HAHA EFF YOU >rinse and repeat until other team ends up on top and finally winsWOW COOLI LOVE TF2I LOVE NOT BEING ALLOWED TO WIN
>>492668435should've defended the point/cart better
Fuck your sentry.
fuck your ape weapon
>>492669142We had them beat before they got to the first checkpoint. It was game over. If they earn overtime just by pushing the cart 51% of the way to the checkpoint (I actually don't know how it works) then what is the point of the checkpoint? It's actually just an arbitrary prop that means nothing. I can't stand it.
20% chance your homo ball doesn't work on the direct hit. And so I repeat, fuck your sentry
Deadslop
>>492669703overtime lasts as long as they're actively capping something +5-10 seconds depending on extenuating circumstaces
>>492618745>dr kunai seethers don't even play the gameof course
>>492656262How is it affixed to his belt? Needs a strap or something.
>>492656672That's more of a horror than a comedy cosmetic. The one where his head is a coconut drink is closer, but I think there's a niche to be filled by a totally empty cranium but otherwise intact pyro head.>>492662718Based, enjoy the tasty cookies. Luv me a good sugar cookie.
>>492667864Why would you not run the most overtuned weapon in the game given the choice to? Unless you have really bad aim and a Kritz medic up your ass 24/7 there's no excuse not to hard main the DH if you actually want to win. If not, you may as well just use the Rocket Jumper.
>>492669580Alrighty then!
>>492671131 I fired a direct hit into her ovaries, sorry pardner
>>492670628Delusional
>>492667864>>492671131I like the black box (gives health everytime you hit an enemy). I do think it keeps me alive much longer. Creates a reinforced loop pressuring me to hurt the enemy in order to stay alive.
>>492631738sauce
>>492677265hanasakiouo on x
>>492678223this is 100% a guy women dont look like this
>>492678695anon said it was a girl last thread and I trust him
september FEEEST
>>492682243yer fat, boy
>>492656668https://tf2huds.dev/hud/ZeesHUD
>>492686414don't download this if you value your PC
I'm usually all for waifu-ifying stuff but can't get behind Mimi SentryFeels so fake Missing the zestProbably my old man brain because it's a new gen of fans too
>>492690143i want to like it because i like smug bitch girls but it feels a bit forced and i feel guilty over liking something like this
It's over
>>492696807tf2 sisters... chadlock won
>>492693292I like the main girl design, the sharp tooth feels like a meme at this point.The other building girls are no good besides recolors. It's like 10% too gooned out.
>>492669580This is literally what my Direct Hit is named.
>>492697912the teeth would look a lot better if they were actually modeled and not just a sticker slapped on
Oh my, so it appears that the three months are now over, if we're to judge the invoice that appeared in my email....Do I continue paying for it? Hmmm... Honestly, I've been neglecting the serber. Now that all the necessary plugins (sans Spraytracer because it wants some fucking database shit) have been set up, I was sort of happy letting it plod along while I tried to work on some stuff. And gooning...It's no skin off my back to continue funding it for another three months, it's actually fairly cheap...
>>492698895>And gooningbased
cant wait the bots to show up again so I can leave casual mode
>>492658379
https://youtu.be/6CBqOfBvKyM?t=1903TF2bros... we made it on here
>>492705902>19 year old PREDATOR sexually pursued a 16 year old CHILD
>>492698895I'd advise you to rebrand it to something more normal if you want to get at least a semi-consistent playerbase.
>>492707618welcome to america
>>492702387come home xister
>>492709095well look what we have here, if it ain't Girly Boots McCoy himself
>>492709095https://youtu.be/5teVixi8XLU?
>>492709095if you see a sniper wearing this its time to leave the server
>>492709095>Don’t worry boys, the Engineer…is Engiqueer!
>>492707618>Defending PedowreckLet’s just forget he asked a 12 year old to moan for him so he could jack off to it several times a day
>>492713301
>>492709095Wanna like get married haha??Like that'd be CRAZY haha!
>>492714281it would be crazy... i would love to get married
>>492714104
Just played a game where we had 4 attacking engineers (all useless) and no medic. I played medic. Then we lost. I love this game.
It’s SeptemberWhere’s the Valve visit, TheWhat? Or will it be postponed again to October?
>>492716646It's coming. We're taking Richter and 2forttw3rkers with us. Quickplay will rise again. No compromises.
>Got a delivered giftapult packageIsn't this rarer than unboxing an unusual with all the idle bots nowadays? Should I just keep wrapped?
possible scream fortress kinohttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3319147412
>>492722439these thumbnails are the ones that catch Eric's attention so yeah 90% likely to be added
>>492722439i like how the point itself is just a flat space with nothing in it, an interesting approach in map design for sure!
>>492722439i hate how the usual map slop makers are just making scream fortress maps even tough its 2 months it reminds me of stores putting out halloween stuff early
>>492723858that is not slop
>>492698895find some eceleb to shill your server like castaway did
>>492724015suuuure
>>492678759zesty medic
>>492722439why cant we get more maps that look like 2fort? why this gotham looking ass map
>>492724936Because every new map needs an alluring new gimmick or aesthetic to catch Eric’s attention and get addedA map that uses the regular assets is gonna be seen as bland and not worth addingadd Haywire plz Eric
>>492727321trvthnvke
>>492723858You aren't very smart are you?
>>492698895stop gooning
>>492709095ONLY TWO THINGS COME OUT OF TEXAS
>>492734731only steers and queers
>>492637173Erectin' a Central Bank
>>492734731Engineer and zewty jesus
>>492736000Wait dubs and trips exist here still?
>>492631975>you are a paedophile,>you are a nonce,>you're a perv,>you're a slot badger,>you're a two pin DIN plug,>you're a bush dodger,>you're a small bean regarder,>you're a unabummer,>you're a nut administrator,>you're a bent ref,>you're The Crazy World of Arthur Brown,>you're a fence vole,>you're a free willy,>you're a chimney bottler,>you're a bunty man,>you're a shrub rocketeer
>>492738216Only if it ends in zero.
>>492738661So is it a glitch or intentional that only hundreds can get dubs
>>492738909I would assume it's because whatever system that attaches numbers to posts can't skip zero for some reason but I don't know, I'm not a computer nerd.
>>492739487Alright, thanks for the explination, just never seen trips on this board lol
>>492736000kino
>>492736000C'mere goy!
>>492739487it's old code so it's spaghetti and bad, much like the source engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HqY9gTGKAA
tf2 sissies... we lost
>>492743725Lost to what? You didn't even include the name.
>>492743725Eh, ok
>>492743725We still beat Concord, the overwatch 2 killer.
>play as a mediocre engineer>nobody cares>play as a mediocre sniper>nobody cares>play as a mediocre power classer>nobody cares>play as a top-scoring medic pro>people will still inevitably bitch at you if you don't possess omnipresence and omnipotence for less than 5 seconds
>”top scoring medic pro”>the gameplay in question:
>>492744837all you have to do is stop pocketing the pyro hiding being a corner with full hp and heal burning players
>>492745180I spam WASD to avoid headshots if I gotta stand in sightlines for an incoming push and I'm ready to CTRL and Space for incoming bombing Soldiers
>gets headshot anyway because good Snipers WILL get you
>>492747463they don't even need to headshot
>>492747371Viva you need to marry your gf, don't post here until you are engaged.
>>492736000How expensive is that loadout? A jew would never spend that much money on video game hats.
It's an uphill battle to reason with anti-competitive people in the first place. What possible purpose could it serve? Even if competitive had zero restrictions, antis would still call it boring, cringe, fake, pretentious, etc. So, really, who even cares? The argument, at its core, essentially boils down to "consenting people are playing the game in a way that they want to, and I don't approve of this". This may sound silly or absurd, but that really is their main point. But, I honestly have to tell you this brutally and flat-out: nobody is obligated to appease you, cunt. If you participated in games, that would be a different story, but this is simply not the case. Anti-competitive people aren't interested in the ruleset, they aren't interested in the logic behind it, they aren't interested in the fact that the community is dictated around fun. They only exist to be spiteful, lying, self-important pricks, that want to shit on other people for the act of enjoying the game in a certain way. That's all there is to it.
>>492749278Funny thing is that the hat itself probably is not very expensive. Dead presidents is one of the cheapest effects in the game. The strange gunslinger and PDA however are a few hundred each.
>>492749523All I know is that all modern maps are made to accomodate Soldier and Demoman. I played Engineer on Overgrown and there are literally no valid Sentry spots, you just have to slam it in random strategic corners. It works against Casual players but any competent Soldier will either tank it with a Medic or just move to a spot that is simply out of range.I'm getting less and less euthusiastic at the idea of the Wrangler getting nerfed (not that it'll happen anyway kek).
>>492749765That's why I asked, I know those stranges are not common at all.Just a dumb loadout when you think about it. Jews are supposed to be cheap.
>>492750321Maybe he scammed a guy out of it
God put me on Earth to torture and embarrass me.
>>492744837Dealing with teammates as Medic is annoying but it can also go both ways>Medic that insists on using the crossbow even when he keeps missing shots instead of switching to the medigun>Medic that holds onto uber forever and inevitably drops it>Medic that doesn’t fully heal you and leaves you at like half health>Medic that pops uber (especially kritz) when my clip is empty and I was going to reload>Medics that just ignore you for whatever reason
>>492749523>The argument, at its core, essentially boils down to "consenting people are playing the game in a way that they want to, and I don't approve of this"oh if only
>>492750904Nice pistol skin
>>492749278I paid 14 keys for the gunslinger while the salvage was still in circulation. The other anon is right about the hat being cheap, somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 keys. PDA I got in 2021, but I traded for it using other items which had appreciated in value.
>>492750403I paid a fair price at the time. I mean, I also have a double spelled strange original I got for 32 keys so maybe I am a scammer.
>>492749523Most of the hate for comp comes from after MYM when Valve decided to cater to comp which came at the casual player’s expense (like 99% of the player base). Before that comp was in its own bubble and did its own thing so a casual player didn’t really care about their weapon bans or whatever because it didn’t affect them.If instead of comp Valve catered for example to MvM and did a bunch of awful rebalancing to weapons that are bad/too good in MvM then people would probably be sour about MvM as well
>>492749523competitive's mere existence created waves even if they didn't want it to
>>492753259You deserve a free Israeli citizenship for that deal.
>>492750904nowhere near festive enough
>>492744837I started enjoying medic a lot more once I stopped healing the tryhard pubstompers who scream at you if stop healing them for a millisecond
>>492754592I'm the opposite. I'm the tryhard pubstomping Medic who screams at all the bottom scoring shitters in my team because there aren't enough Heavy or Demo Gods to feed Kritz to
>>492749523Your game sucks and is gay and boring, but you are free to play it and do whatever you want so long as your game doesn't affect my game. Don't fuck with my balance and I won't care about yours.
>>492750904I WOULD KISS YOU
>>492754216Yesterday's whale is tomorrow's jew. I simply bought the items I wanted when they were available. It's not like I've sought out a sellers that wasn't attempting to unload their gear to take advantage. I just really like tf2, and when I see limited items I figured the price would only get worse.
>>492745180I'm "good" enough at medic to carry pubs and I still don't think there's any skill involved. Just don't die idiot
>>492755162I want to NVKE payload carts as Demoman with you... But unfortunately, I am a European man
>>492756880Tragedy
>>492755162evergreen
>>492749523bot post
>>492749523this is not a copy pasted post? I was sure it was after the first sentence but google can't find it.
>>492759840it's ai generated>n-no it's notthen whoever wrote it is an npc
>>492759353When playing Medic I can't stop raging at the coward useless team refusing to play adequately, so I give up, aggressively mumbling "I have noone to heal in this match", and go Soldier or whatever to just annoy enemies. I guess I have anger issues, but I hecking love playing Medic, so I just suffer with my disabilities
>>492760693I am good enough at medic to inspire my team to push and get manually thanked often, It's actually very comfy. Like I got the healslut good ending
>>492760178The NPC's are the ones who are responding with generic "badass" snarky comments. They obviously must realize they are being described in line 3, cannot think of anything clever, and just walk right into it. It's almost kinda sad.
>>492760693Same, except I have to go Pyro, and then I scream at my Medics for being dogshit
>>492749523Are you the same poster who keeps claiming to represent the competitve community? I'd like to respond or have a conversion, but the way you frame it is in a different universe from how I think about the issue as someone who doesn't think about or play competitive. Youtubers like uncle dane at one point controlled the narritive, and had the notion that casual players should aspire to the competitive scene. The implications of that were that items which made sense for the casual game would have to be changed to be more in line with the ruleset in your gamemode, so there'd be less of a difference between the two. I object to the idea that how comp tf2 plays is a natural extension of the tf2 that I play, and that my game mode should have to recieve changes for the benefit of yours when yours doesn't for mine. This is ultimately on valve, but not everyone is going to be rational about that.
>>492763223Valve and Uncle Dane have, like, literally zero input on competitive.
>>492763743Yeah, I didn't say otherwise. Why would I want to change your game mode. Could you try reading what I wrote please.
>>492750096engineer being good is a bad thing
>>492764464Says who?
>Random crits were added to break stalemates>Sentries (the biggest contributors to stalemates) are immune to critsUhhhhh…
bad bait
>>492760693>everyone replying to this, not realizing it's bait
>>492766005Not everything you don't like is a bait, wanker
>mfw the same people that get picked by eric every seasonal update know their map is getting inthere's no chance for someone new to get their map in, its always the same faaags
>>492767416>my team is useless cowards>I grumble to myself aggressively>heckingsure thing nigger
>medic with the crossbow has more ranged damage potential than a spy with the ambassador
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3322275041cool aethestics on this map, reminds me a lot of the air exchange from the HL2 beta
>>492697912>The other building girls are no good besides recolors. It's like 10% too gooned out.I like the Dispenser mommy more than Mimi actually. Her more angular design and not actually having a real face fits the game better.
>>492768658looks like some map / item makers are such attention whores they will always reveal it a month before release
>>492772281Built for big black bombs
>>492769874At what range? A team of all ambies vs a team of all crossbows would be a slaughter for the ambies
>>492769549What are you on, retard
>>492773986Noticol
>>492772281not a fat of the legs
>>492773947It goes without saying that the ambys would get slaughtered
>>492775674Let's assume no use of secondary items. Primary only.
>>492775471The legs are one design element borrowed from Mimi but both are based off the big chunky legs the MvM robots have. One thing they both got right.
>>492768658>Saxton Hale>Saxton Hale but with a winter coat>Saxton Hale but robot>Saxton Hale but zombieI’m so tired of these fucks
When are they gonna add GunGame kino to TF2?
>>492777210Sorry but Zesty hath decreed that GunGame is not TF2... so he hath spoken so it shall be....
>>492776675thankfully its a not a vsh map that one, just seems to have custom skeletons
Full bumper car racing game mode when?
If zesty was given the uncle dane treatment and consulted on the heavy update, what do you think would come of that? Hard mode: you have to factor in the realities of this update being the product of the modern tf2 development team.
>>492778074>Hard modeso a hat case, taunts & like 10 maps? maybe some bug fixes
>>492778074>current developer team doing anything beyond cosmetic case + mapsi dont see that happening
Kill friendlies. Roundhouse kick friendlies into the concrete
>>492778793Fuck friendlies. Have sex with friendlies on the control point
>>492778074>No new weapons (he said we already have too many and Heavy is fine)>Weapon rebalances>Update the warpaint system so designs that use special code can be added (like Zippy Plow)>TOTAL EMPORIUM DEATH (he’d advise picking better cosmetics that are more in line with the art style)>#FixCasual (since he doesn’t want to bring back quickplay)>unmute f2ps>less maps added per update, like 5 (there’s already too many)
i agree with all of this except #fixcasual, just bring back quickplay
>>492778074>Hard modeConsidering there’s only Eric and Joshie on the team with occasional help from ficool, not much if anythingJoshie would probably throw a tantrum if Eric let zesty walk into Valve lol
>>492776034Uh huh
>>492779419He wants quickplay back but doesn’t think you can convince post-MYM players to go back to a system they’re not familiar with, opting instead to fix the system they already knowIt’s basically a “don’t bring back quickplay, just fix casual until it’s a copy of quickplay” mentality
>>492776668they have no ankles so I don't like themalso I'm not a fan of heels
>>492779847She doesn't need ankles if her main job is to stand in place.>also I'm not a fan of heelsSorry to hear that you're gay
>>492778074He’d start chimping out when he sees Jill walk by>YOU KILLED TF2! YOU HEAR ME, JOHN?! IT WASN’T NEATO AT ALL!!!
First shallow god, now star? How much more betrayal can I take
>>492779682The conversion is about damage potential, so yes.
>>492778793this but also soldier
Did anyone else notice that jerma985 speaks with a gay affectation these days?Did he watch too much porn?
>>492782586watching porn doesn't give you a gay affectation
>>492782670It do
>>492782670still extremely damaging for any human being
Howdy partners, it's me Engineer. I just wanted to tell y'all that transwomen are valid.
>>492784731https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/0/02/Heavy_cloakedspyidentify08.wav
>>492631765>OP picsus
>>492785016now the question is, which one is the imposter
>>492780247Not gay they just look like shit and aren't comfortable for your wife
>>492778074He wants to nerf the Eyelander and Crusader's Crossbow, but will not shut the fuck about about the JUSTIFIED, LIGHT nerfs to the Ullapool Caber and GRU. He's an idiot.
>>492785940Well first of all jokes aside they aren't even real heels, they're an additional prong to reinforce the legs which makes it functionally necessary, and second of all it's a robot so comfort isn't even an issue. It just looks like heels without actually being heels which is a good design choice
b4nny is streaming
b4nny is eating
>>492649364lmao cry about it loser
>>492781524Yeah and medic has more ranged damage potential
>>492786493Looking like heels evokes the image of heels which look meh. The prong isn't even necessary, look at the signalis designs
b4nny is shitting
How come Bfournny didn't tell Valve that the Wrangler and Short Circuit are fucking annoying?
I always thought it was bunny instead of banny
>>492786153>light nerf>caberlol
>>492786153>He wants to nerf the Eyelander and Crusader's Crossbowwow, that's retarded>JUSTIFIED, LIGHT nerfs to the Ullapool Caber and GRUwow, that's retarded
There was a player who had Rouge the Bat Porn as their profile pic today.
Did Steam/Valve change their rules on profile pics or something?
>>492789308only the second one is retard, the eyelander snowballs too hard and outclasses all of demo's other swords by a bandslidecrossbow is an objective upgrade and is clearly too strong
Why Fap to Rouge when you can fap to Fempyro like a real man?
>>492790371I don't do either, but only because art of the latter is too hard to find in the usual place and browsing twitter is like pulling teeth
>>492790371Actual real men fap to Ivy from Deadlock
>>492787662Evoking the image of a woman's body without actually being a woman's body and having function behind it is the ideal design for one of these anthro machine things. I think you're just being autistic.The prongs are necessary, those narrow feet would not be able to support her center of mass on their own. The prongs distribute the weight more evenly. That's also why Sentry guns have the additional legs.
>>492790371I like both>>492790623You mean gay men, she has a flat chest and broad shoulders
>>492791059You can have womanly designs without lazily slapping heels on everything>I think you're just being autisticWe're talking about the design of anthropomorphized engineer buildings in a 20 year old game, think we're both guilty of thatAgain, see the signalis designs, you can absolutely have legs that lack a heel - people can walk on their toes just fine, can't they?
>>492791289flat is justice. the shoulders aren't any wider than the ones from the gargoyles tv show, plus she got the wide hips and thighs, and the tail for added leverage to pull you in during a mating press
Opened up the game for 3 hours with the intent of trying to play flanker heavy or try out my new brass beast loadout; didn't get to play him once since I was forced to play others classes to try and prevent us from getting rolled, which did not actually matter in the end.Do you think it's at all likely that valve will ever actually push out another update that patches broken shit like the vaccinator, and gets rid of shit like the MMR system they have that only makes imbalanced games? I don't say this often, but I'd literally rather have nothing for a matchmaking system. Just throw players together randomly regardless of skill, at least it'd be fair
>>492791524>lazily slapping heelsAgain, they are literally not heels, it's an additional prong to reinforce the leg. It's not lazy if there's thought behind it. It fits the design, it's functional, you are just an autist.>Again, see the signalis designs, you can absolutely have legs that lack a heel - people can walk on their toes just fine, can't they?That's a bad comparison. Futuristic scifi is not the same as retro scifi, Engineer's big bulky buildings can't get away with stick legs because they're not made out of space age materials. Plus, Engineer's designs are not sleek or futuristic, they're very much cobbled together out of different parts. Heels also fit the intended time period of the 60's where women were expected to wear them and it definitely fits the the universe even if (you) personally don't like heels.
>>492744837I feel like I end up in this situation a lot where I have teammates yelling at me to be healed but I am pocketing someone who is actively pushing into danger and will immediately die if I stop healing them. Even worse when said teammates bitch about me not healing anyone on mic.
>>492793395that heavy is at half hp so 150 and is about to take a direct pipe (100) + direct rocket (damage can't be nailed down because we don't know how far the soldier is. minimum 48 but it would probably be a bit higher because it's unlikely he's at maximum falloff range)heavy is dead. heal your teammates.just fucking with you. based drawfag; i've been in this situation too
>>492792296It's not a bad comparison in the least, it's soviet cassette futurism (which is retro), which is only about 5-10 years removed from TF2's 60's aesthetic, which TF2 itself has dipped in and out of. The leg designs are pretty much exactly the same except for the prong on the heel.
>>492789791>the eyelander snowballs too hard and outclasses all of demo's other swords by a bandslidewow, that's retarded
I don't heal demoman.
Do any of you actually play the fucking game or do you just sit around jerking off
i play
i do both
>>492798775no shit
I jerk off in-game
>>492801349this is how scout's feel at 124 hp
>>492801335I'm sorry my friend, it appears I did not get my message across very efficiently. Allow me to repharse: I think it is retarded that you believe that about the Eyelander. I hope I was clearer this time.
>>492801501wow, that's retarded
>>492801501wow, that's SeeS
>die>20 second respawn>take one step outside spawn>get pulped>20 second respawn timer>"spah sappin mah-"
>>492801349He died for our chicken
>>492800040I play more than I should, however I wonder about others here. Most threads end with them telling me that I don't play the game if I don't agree with *thing that never happens* being common.
>>492802375this but unironically
>>492802375YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE???WHEN MOTHERFUCKERS DONT USE MY FUCKING TELEPORTERIT'S THERE FOR A REASON
>>492803171this but when they stare at me desperately trying to keep my teleporter alive at spawn from sapperspam on the other endlike nigger either swap to engi and help me since you have nothing better to do, or fuck off and go kill the spy on the other end
>>492803171or doesn't place down an exit for the whole match
>>492804106I'm fucking trying
>Spy is camping the teleporter>People keep using it just to get backstabbed>Engi does nothing
>>492805274you press 4, then 4, then mouse1
>>492805648go through it with the razorback and crit him dumbass
>>492805830I don't use overpowered items or classes
>>492805830Not my problem
>>492805648the fuck is he supposed to dodestroy his tele exit so he has to build and upgrade another one?destroy his entrance so the spy saps the exit and he has to build and upgrade both?
>>492805668>build tele>other team instantly destroys itoh that's okay I'll just put it a bit further back>build tele>other team instantly destroys itoh that's okay I'll just put it a bit further back>build tele>other team instantly de
>>492807158You described engineer gameplay. You chose to be the builder so there isn't anyone's fault but yours. Maybe play something that can frag if that's what the team needs.
I feel like stream sniping someone
>>492807537make sure to pick someone with less skill than you so you can feel good about yourself
>engineer>winning>auto-balanced>mission ends in ten seconds>loseAwesome. Cool. Nice. I love this game.
>>492806405in a perfect world someone would walk to the teleporter and de-spy it by hand
>>492806185>>492806225you sure whine about it like it's your problem
>>492794381
>>492807949At least you got to have fun beforehand. It's not like winning the round matters
>>492808171:3
>>492808171Sleepy?
:r
>>492807359I just get upset when my team refuse to hold a position and just wander around
>spam E while burning to death in front of an idle medic>"noooo scout what are you doing, medic has more important players to heal, go get a pack instead!">gets pack>"noooo scout what are you doing, you have to save packs for medics cause they can't heal themselves, get a medic to heal you instead!"
>>492808642can't relatescouts stay pickin' the corn outta my shit
>>492808642obviously the only course of action is to steal the enemy's health pack and right afterward the medic needs it because of course he does and dies horribly, blaming you
I need your best YUHUGLEHs
>>492808224THAT WAS MY FUCKING DOPAMINE GOD DAMN IT
>>492808542Rightfully so. I try to help my team hold ground, but most of my team mates are cannon fodder or at best Kamikazes. I blame matchmaking sucking ass.
>>492807949That's how you get a comeback without skill, have the whole team ragequit and let their topscorers autobalance at the end of the match
>>492808642I like doing this just for shits and giggles and then spam 'Thanks' in their faces, go fuck yourselves
>>492809760Yeah I'm sure they intended for that to happen
>group of 4-6 people on the enemy team in VC>they clearly know each other>2 are a heavy med pair, 1 is a pyro, the others are soldier/demo>round is already an automatic lossI'm playing casual to relax, why the fuck am I fighting comp 6's? Get rid of this party system bullshit and bring back ad-hoc, team switch, spectator, and mid-round autobalance
>>492809585What kind of loser gets dopamine off of the game outcome being announced? What is this, overwatch? The fun is going toe to toe with your enemy at their best and then dismantling them one by one until the announcer exclaims "they're all dead"
>>492810424>What kind of loser gets dopamine off of the game outcome being announced?>Describes getting dopamine off the announcer telling them the outcome of the game
>>492810203It was a problem in the QP era too. The matchmaking system should keep teams with other teams of equal size on the other team
>>492810559The team wipe announcement doesn't have anything to do with the round outcome.
>>492810735Same difference
>>492810609As someone who was actually around then, not really. Getting that many people on one team was actually quite difficult, or at least took a good amount of time. No one was queueing with 5 of their friends into random pubs, at best it was 2-3
>>492810424Are you fucking stupidWhat's the point of trying to win if not for the fun of itAre you really that burnt out and jaded
>>492811117It isn't. If I am winning and getting auto-balanced it is because we beat the other team too hard and they started leaving. Therefore it wasn't a good game up to that point anyhow. The point isn't killing enemy gamers, or being told you won, it's taking people who are a threat to you and thrashing them.
>>492811548The point was overcoming them. Not being credited with it.
Kill pyros. Behead pyros with the eyelander. Roundhouse kick a pyro onto the control point. Slamdunk a gibus pyro into the trash. Neck-snap pyros. Crucify filthy pyro mains. Defecate into a pyros sandvich. Launch pyros into a buzzsaw. Stiryfry pyros in a wok. Toss pyros in front of active sentry guns. Urinate into a pyros gasstank. Judo throw pyros into a woodchipper. Twist pyros heads off. Report pyros to Valve. Karate chop pyros in half. Curbstomb pregnant pyros. Trap pyros in quicksand. Dump pyros into the grinder on mannhattan. Liquify pyros into a vat of acid. Eat pyros. Dissect pyros. Exterminate pyros in MGE. Stomp on pyros skull with the mantreads. Make pyros check'em. Cremate pyros with the degreaser. Lobotomize pyro mains. Mandatory trade bans for pyros. Crush pyros into a paste. Drown pyros in jarate. Vapourize pyros with a pomson. Kick a monkey pyro from your mvm lobby. Feed pyros to alligators. Slice pyros open with the half-zatoichi.
>>492810110Do you want your comeback or nah?
>>492812054Fuck pyros. Get head from pyros. Fuck a pyro on the control point. Slamdunk your cock into her. Snap off a pyro's bra. Cum inside filthy pyro mains. Have the pyro make you a sandvich after. Launch sperm into pyros. Fry pyros' brains with sex. Toss a pyro's salad. Urinate into a pyro's mouth (she's into it). Judo throw pyros onto a bed. Blackmail pyros into sex with their dox. Twist pyros' nipples. Report your love for pyros to Valve. Split pyros' legs in half. Sexually heal pyros. Give pyros surprise buttsex. Critically hit pyros in the womb. Impregnate pyros. Get trapped into sex by demon pyros from the underworld. Dump sperm into a pyro cum dumpster. Submerge pyros into a vat of cum. Eat pyros' pussies. Dissect pyros' clothes off. Dominate pyros after defeating them in MGE. Slap pyro's face during sex with the Hot Hand. Give pyros health packs. Make pyros suck'em. Cream inside pyros' holes. Lobotomize pyros into sex slaves. Mandatory slut training for pyros. Give pyros your love paste. Drown pyros in mad milk. Whip pyros' asses with a disciplinary action. Invite a pyro to your mvm lobby. Fuck pyros like an alligator. Slice pyros' clothes off with the half-zatoichi.
>>492811964what kinda hippie dippie shit is that if i put in the effort i sure as shit want to be credited
>>492811809It is. You're deriving dopamine from the game announcing something, simple as. I'm right, you're wrong, any further dissent is a concession.
>>492812390there's no comeback possible by the time autobalance starts kicking in
>>492814017You could have a good night sleep because you know he's probably contemplating quitting the game after the last second autobalance
>>492812398this but femsoldier
>>492813339Want sure, but dopamine from the credit being given? It's an afterthought.Playing a casual game means sometimes not getting the credit. Play Overwatch if you always need that.
>>492812398is that a haydee pyro
>>492816073You bet
>>492743725Deadlock is an entirely different type of game, not sure why people are so thirsty to compare it to tf2. I get why on 4chan, but the retardation of anons has spread to the more influential retards on you tube. if Deadlock was going to kill anything it might be DOTA, as that's the valve game it's more similar to, but I doubt it.
>>492819760It started when TF2 was being left to rot and Deadlock leaked, but then Valve fixed the bots very thoroughly and obviously devoted a lot of attention into doing so (even paying jannies to keep watch) so the stupid rivalry doesn't matter anymore
>>492819760>I get why on 4chan, but the retardation of anons has spread to the more influential retards on you tubeyou got it backwards
tf2 would be objectively better if the natascha, wrangler, and vaccinator were all deleted from the game
>>492822130KYS Compie
>>492744837why are support players in every online game such victimized whiny shits
>>492825431why is everyone else an emotionally stunted sociopath
>>492825657lmfao
>Coldfront coldstompers is incompatible with gunboatsCan't they just make it equipable but not override the cosmetics? Damn
>>492825431>Purposely take less action filled role in the game for sake of team>get shit on for it [this would not have happened if they just played soldier/demo]
>>492826154anon the whole point is you should be able to see what items another player has equipped that will affect gameplay
>>492826367Any cosmetics I can change into? I want to at least keep the gloves
>>492826465sorry i can't help you. i don't know shit about cosmetics.just embrace the shotgun while using that cosmetic, anon
>>492826567Well I am a scout main so it's no problem for me, I'm just a bit embarrassed walking around after 3 jumps when everyone is flying away
I just completed my first tier 4 demoman jump map in 1 hour 12 minutes. I also completed the same map as soldier which was also tier 4 in 52 minutesWhen do I get the babes I was promised?
>>492826695>When do I get the babes I was promised?i'm right here
>>492782586Its the weed
>>492826743I don't trust that you're a woman sorry
>>492826941:x
>gunboats soldier triple rocket jumps on to badwater roof>fires 3 more rockets without reloading>gets jarate'd, lit on fire, eats a meatshot, hit with a wrench, sprayed by a heavy>fires a critical rocket, killing you>rocket jumps away>deathcam>187HP
>>492826695You also have to get 2000 rating in mge>>492827172Maybe you should just not play a bad class
>>492827172overheal is a helluva drug
>>492827172>5 people couldn't hit 300 dmgyep, he deserved surviving that
>>492749523>possible purposeshoehorning a competitve and casual system nobody asked for or wanted besides literal compfags and retarded gluehuffing niggers who thought TF2 would die if it didn't copy the Overwatch ESports model (look where it is now btw) probably wasn't the best way to integrate a competitive and casual format into the game.And then of course, the system blew balls on release because of queue times for the replacement to quickplay and still blows balls because it gives you 1-2 rounds to play and then makes you join another server that'll forcibly die out to repopulate another, making match-finding extremely tedious and overcomplicated without dedicated servers that stay online 24/7Combine that with the stupid balance changes>nerfing several heavy weapons that didn't need nerfs purely for the 6's format>buffing the wm1 class's damage>leaving the vaccinator, wrangler, sniper's whole class, and various other cancerous elements for both 6's and casual gameplay completely untouchedAnd you get anti-competitive people.>still call it boring, cringe, fakeit is all of that, it's the same 4 classes in the same fucking format on the same select maps using the same fucking shit. that's unironically not fun and is why 6's is a massive fucking failure>b-b-but muh highlanderdevolves into which sniper dies first>consenting peoplenobody consented to MyM or any of this forced casual/compfag shit with fancy ranked badges. nobody did.>nobody is obligated to appease youtell that to the nigger compfags and developers who forced this shitty "neato" update on the entire playerbase for their own reddit-tier ideals>community is dictated around funwhich is why 6's, competitive, and casual as a whole has been so poorly received, you dumb nigger>shit on other people for the act of enjoying the gamethat's what compfags literally did. they shat on the people who played for fun and forced their ideals for the rest of the playerbase.kill yourself
>>492827675He also typed !rtd before all of that
>>492827172so an overhealed gunboats air strike soldier showed up and your team suckedwhat's the story here
>>492828059tldr please?
>>492828191kill yourself
>>492828237Too lazy, I'll let old age do it for me.
>>492661428>that pic teminds me of that one sfm with engy and a sentry where at the end the sentry is sapped and engy is too late to remove the sapper and it ends with engy crying on the floor with the sentrys parts in his embrace:(
>>492809467it's YER UGLEH
>>492822130I like to go on no sentry servers and play natascha heaviy to make overconfident uncontested scouts seethe
>>492830235
you guys said AI was woke
>>492819760>Deadlock is an entirely different type of game, not sure why people are so thirsty to compare it to tf2thisi kept seeing people compare it to tf2 and how every tf player will abandon tf for this, i kept seeing this opinion in shitter, youtube and every other social media you can think ofi got access to the game, i hadnt checked anything about the game, expecting just another hero shooter thats going to be something like tf2, because thats what everyone has been saying>mobalol
>>492830492>Demoman is not defined by racial stereotypes>is constantly drunk and violent
>>492812054this but soldier
>>492830776he's Scottish
>>492830370and you're still losing to us lil bro, what can a little bitch heavy do without his medic bf?
>>492830776I won't be doing any more. AI-posting is very low tier spammable content, but I won't pretend like I don't enjoy dicking around with it.
>>492831029Yes exactly
The razorback should be an all class secondary
razorback shouldn't exist, literally a skill issue if you get backstabbed
Presented without comment
>>492835082*intentionally doesn't cap*
>>492778793>>492779035https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmJSl5CP2mk
>>492831123False
which has more mechanical depth? phlog+scorch shot pyro or heavy in general. I feel like scorch jumping alone puts heavy ahead but I wanna know what you guys think.
>>492839189count the weapons pyro has to aim and then count the weapons heavy has to aim
>>492793395Heal the fatty and pop quick crossbows, if using needles though just ignore the others since they are in cover anyway,
>>492839189The Phlogistinator alone has about as many special mechanics as Heavy does in his entirety
What is it about Hightower that brings around the sweatiest Scout players
>>492827172medic arrowed him mid fight
>>492842252>the sweatiest players
how do I get blue diapercat to run my map on his map testing server
what
>>492851254I would assume sending him it in a dm/email and ask if they can test it out
this sack of shit would be completely viable if the fire kicked up as soon as it were fully revved instead of 2 business days later.
>>492839189Depends on if the Heavy is a tomeshitter or not
tomichads
is God even remotely aware of how fucking horrifically awful the world he created is
>>492856803In the Bible he cries because of how evil the world is
>>492856928why, it was his fucking choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUuNXf4aU0A
>>492857650skipped entire video to the last 20 seconds>casual's not going anywhere, heckin deal with itNew propaganda just dropped.
>>492857650bro conceded
>>492858058He's saying to add all the extra options from Quickplay into Casual so people can't cry about it
why is the devil guy from deadlock the devil from the tf2 comics?
>>492857650It’s a start and I agree with what he says to bring back but>No mention of ad-hoc connectionsIt’s probably the most requested feature players want back, and bringing it back would invalidate matchmaking (because why wait for a matchmaker to queue you into a server that could be empty or almost done vs. instantly picking what you want)None of what he mentions would fix the issue of long queue times especially if you want to play the not so popular maps (it took SquimJim 2.5 hours to just find ONE server running Nightfall)Also fuck him I DO want the old game mode art back
I appreciate the effort of the Water Waders creator to ask to fix the paint region, but why the duck did he wait so long? People were abusing it literal days after it was addedBut also fuck Eric, if people spend money to abuse an item’s team recognition they should know there’s always the risk it will get fixed
eric probably made up the decision himself on the spot its a mistake for 1 dude to control an entire game alone
stum frum
Casual is fine stop being such fucking nerds
>>492860248same concept artists
I like the electric light orchestra
>>492863776>t. post-mym player that doesn’t know any better
>>492864271Cope nigga
>>492863776no
>>492864653>2014lmao
>>492868154I anticipated a low quality goal shifting post such as this You’re my dog, you know that?
POST 'EM
>>492863776I disagree but respect you ability to have a fundamentally incorrect option.
>>492857256God can only create things less perfect than himself, otherwise his creation is himself and nothing was accomplished.
>>492819760Everyone knows that TF2 is the best online FPS ever made, so it's always in the back of their mind when another one is announced.
>>492872036vncle dane is slowly seeing the light...
>>492872036This is the correct take. People have complained about random crits since the game came out. If Valve wanted to remove them, they would've a long time ago.
>>492872036Compjews are seeing the lightThe light being "fuck off and ruin your own games with the shitty ruleset, thanks"
>minimum of 30 minutes spent on each map before match ends and map vote begins>vote time cut in half>one side wins 2 times in a row = auto scrambleboom casual is fixed>no they should just add quickplay back they have the codenot how it works you spastic
>>492873186I mean, they took a long time to remove random damage spread. They coded a different random variant for some of Demoman's weapons (I don't recall which) and I guess they ended up noticing it was retarded and got rid of it entirely.
>>492873226>the solution is... to do exactly what they already have done for yearswow
The fact that its only 6 console commands to make Casual almost identical to how quickplay functioned is maddening.
If you’re afraid of the hammer… you might be the nail
>>492874646Is there a console command to get rid of the Competitive countdown?
>>492874972tf_use_match_hud 0
>>492874969stealing this next time somebody whines about crits
>>492875074It gets rid of the UI only.
>be med>see low hp hatless teammate running about>hit him with a bolt easyI doubt he even knows I healed him.>see low hp hatted teammate running about>shoot bolt at him>the moment he makes eye contact he stops, the bolt hitting the ground where he would be if he continued walking.
>>492872036Difference being crits have been in the game since the start, whereas this debate is about bringing back features that were removed without anyone even letting players know (people knew the comp mode was coming but nobody asked for casual matchmaking and it came as a surprise with MYM)
>>492872036>There is nothing we can do. Billions must connect to Uncletopia
>>492876689Some medics cry in chat for you to stand still. I personally call medic and stand still on a long sightline as scout, but otherwise expect nothing. Yesterday a friendly medic was nailing me with insane accuracy on scout and I didn't do anything to help him. Unless you know the medic you can't predict what they'll do.
That feeling when you realize the so-called 'petition nuke' is just going to be a pointless circlejerk, and nothing meaningful is coming to the game.
>>492880295It’d pointless at this point (bots have been gone for months now) but they *have to* because they promised.Still no word on how they expect to get in since with the constant delays I doubt they got in touch with someone at Valve, wouldn’t be surprised if they post pics outside the building as if they went in and call it a day
>>492822130tf2 would be objectively better if the sandman, guillotine and ambassador were reverted to their previous designs
gaming time
Mouth on a Statue, NiggaLevel 10 Spy Watch+ 3x faster decloak speed- 2x slower cloak speed- -75% movement speed while cloaked- Only 50 or more damage will cause the Spy to flicker
What do you guys even talk about anymore when there hasn't been an update in 8 years
talk about me <:3
>>492885005ecelebs, quickplay, fempyro porn
>>492882964wow, that watch is dogshit since it's not movement based like the C&D
>>492885428shit I forgot to say it has damage reduction when cloaked
the natascha is cringe
>>492885634it still drains too quick to really be useful since default cloak is 10 seconds and the reason why it can last is because you have the speed to pinball around all the ammo kits to stay invisible
Bring back Ludmila
>>492886195you know who drains too quick?miss paulingwhen working with my dick
>>492880989>ambassadoragreed>guillotinemostly agreed>sandmanfuck no
>>492886817>fuck nowhat would you do to improve its current design?
>>492886817>>sandman>fuck nosandman was fine>"hurrr le stuns don't belong in le fps"rhetoric
I haven't played TF2 in a few months but I'm glad to see Castaway is still doing well
>have shitty unusual with orbiting effect>put it on since I don't usually wear it, since it looks like shit>taunt in spawn to check it out>effect nowhere to be seennow I remember why I don't wear the damn thing
>>492793395>AIIEEEEE I NEED TO HELP THE RETARD THAT RUSHES INTO 4 ENEMIES AT 100 HEALTH LIVEthe moment i see my low health heavy jumprev into a fight, if theres anyone else around im leaving him
>>492890784You have to disable the adjustment on orbiting effects or they'll intermittently teleport to some random area on the map.
>>492891925CheersBet that's never getting fixed
I want to use the ambassador for the niche cases in which I'm able to land a headshot, but it means sacrificing a good primary that can actually save my life and kill things. This sucks bros.
>>492892816Probably not, but if it does we'd see an increase in orbiting prices.
>>492878195This is the way.
>>492891925>orbitting planets goes into the orbit when adjustedkino...
>>492892971Learn to aim better and it won't be as niche.
>>492901021no, it's still worse than stock
>>492901328If a person had an aimbot, are you supposing that stock is better for them or do you just mean that no human could posisbly realize the potential of the ambassador?
>>492901021Even with the best aim in the world it's still worseAlso, aiming better isn't viable
>>492901464I don't give a shit about people with aimbots because the game isn't balanced around people with aimbots
>>492901464both, stock does more dmg at max range and has comparable if not better dmg at close range
>>492901464if you never miss any shots stock is better because its faster, tard-sama.there is no "potential" to be realized with the amby since 2017
>>492901464https://youtu.be/OXqzL_iFXj8?si=uXtP4DmYAKqp22L5
A soldier main and a medic main were arguing about the usage of the n word on frontier
>>492904461>soldiertranny BLACKED gooning freak: NOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN N-WORDERINO>aryanmaxxed medicGOD: you are a dumb gorilla nigger. you are blackest jungle monkey nigger i have ever seen.
Add arena mode to casual
>>492904674>BLACKED gooning freakThey actually like to use the word a lot.
>>492904461How do you know they main it?
>>492904827I think the reason they haven’t done it yet is because the older arena maps aren’t compatible with casual and would need to be updated. This is fine for the community maps but I’m guessing Valve is too lazy to update their own maps.Graveyard is a highly modified player destruction map since vscript wasn’t added yet, while Perks uses vscript to work
Amby this, stock thatJust use Diamondback nigga
pls don't remove matchmaking before i hit max rank ;__;
>>492906217No, I will keep using my BIG GUN with my BIG KNIFE.
Should I donate to stabbystabby
>>492887180knockback mechanic a la force a nature where you can still get crits when paired with the guillotine but you now actually have to predict your opponents' strafing>>492887690any mechanic that doesn't allow for movement-based counterplay doesn't belong in tf2the developers themselves acknowledged that freedom of movement is one of the most important aspects of the game's combat system in the dev commentaries
>>492907875what happened is he homeless
>>492908425As far as I knew he still lived on a sailboat, lol.
>>492907875The notion of donating to any 'content creator' is ridiculous. Why would you pay money to watch someone else play video games, let alone TF2, one of the most accessible games that anyone can enjoy regardless of skill?
>>492906480 SHUT IT DOWN NOW!
>>492908552That’s based.
>>492907953>any mechanic that doesn't allow for movement-based counterplay doesn't belong in tf2again, rhetoric. plenty of mechanics like that in the game that people don't complain about.
Why are so many people say DR is OP even post-rework, taking away your ease of access to cloak as the fucking spy is a really hard downside for being harder to killI tried using it but it just wont click with me since having far less time being invisible fucks with my typical gameplay loop for him and I cant really do much about it and I often become a sitting duck with a still charging ringer
>>492909068nah. the DR is shit post nerfs. Which is probably for the best. The DR is just a flawed concept, in my opinion. The ambassador, however. That is a case of people insisting that it is unusable now when it is still pretty. good. I don't even think the nerf was necessary and wouldn't mind if they reverted it, but it is by no means a bad weapon.
>>492909068It sucks now They need to buff it by giving it faster recharge time
>>492906480Even in a quickplay world what would stop Valve from keeping the medal in their servers? Its purely cosmetic, at most it’d need a little tweaking for how much exp you get if the map timer is brought back
>>492909427I still use amby when I have to deal with that really annoying sniper with a razorbackyou shouldn't expect to click on heads as a spy anyway, Diamondback is actually the really busted one, it relies on spy having to stay alive for long periods of time and be effective at your class to reward him with stored crits, difficult to pull off, but the upside is really good
>>492906480Ze casual pubber is almost max rank? Drop ze quickplay update.
>>492906480Do the mannpower exploit bro
>>492910207>and be effective at your classor just sap the enemy teleporter
>>492908762good point but you're a pedo
>>492910608qrd?
>>492906480Do it faster so he doesn’t hit it
>>492910830If you and a buddy go on Mannpower as Sandman Scouts, each get a power up that regens health and sit in a corner spamming balls at each other you can quickly farm points, do it long enough and, well…https://youtu.be/6SbMOMja3LE?si=eLkY9R7cqxsREWwP
>>492910608>using tranny exploits to raise tranny badge
>>492911221I don’t care about the badge, but for people that do they can do that and be done with it, it’s purely cosmetic anyway
>>492911164>3 years agokek is this still unpatched?
>>492911164that's pretty funny
>>492911406According to the wiki the last patch notes Mannpower got were in 2020, so it should still work
Anyone know what's going on with the TF2 Emporium after their big meltdown? I'm guessing they've nuked their logs again after pushing some autist to suicide.
>>492910464>Quickplay is brought back>Your current casual badge is turned into a cosmetic, showing the rank you had at the time of the update>It becomes the new bragging rights medalWould be funny
>sniper will never be nerfed>casual will never be removed>and (YOU) will keep seething
>bots will never be remov-ACK!
>>492908989what the fuck are you talking aboutstun literally only exists as part of taunt kills outside of meme gamemodes (both old airblast and sandman stun mechanics were removed almost a decade ago)slowdown only exists on the natascha (shitty crutch weapon) and the sandman (so bad that nobody uses it anyway)every form of knockback in the game right now (besides the natascha and sandman) can be strafed, therefore allowing for counterplay
>>492907953>guillotine crits based on knockbackno, fuck off, the guillotine should never have crit combo potential ever again
>>492913156you could strafe after being stunned with the sandman and, most importantly, you could dodge its ballyou're also forgetting about the loose cannon, the scorch shot, airblast and launching your enemy with explosions. there are plenty of mechanics that limit your movement in some way in the game. the difference between them and the sandman is not being allowed to shoot.the only reason why I'm calling all those dumbass phrases "rhetoric" is because the sandman's previous iteration was in the game for years and no one actually gave a shit or thought it was in any way overpowered. all this discouse surrounding it came after the JI nerf.
>>492909427it's not pretty good, it's dogshit terrible, stock is miles betterit's only useful at killing afk people
>>492913943>dealing 150 damage (less than 2 meatshots) after hitting 2 miniscule projectiles in a cooldown of 15 seconds was overpoweredI get people saying the sandman should've been nerfed, but I seriously think anyone who thinks that about the guillotine is fucking retarded
>>492910207>I still use amby when I have to deal with that really annoying sniper with a razorbackUse the enforcer, it does the same exact thing while also countering the wrangler and vaccinator>>492910662That's not a thing anymore, engis religiously defend their teles and there's always someone spawning to prevent you from destroying it
>>492914198Scout being able to do that much damage at range for free with a highly spammable projectile that uses the flare gun hitboxes (i.e. the collision box, not hitboxes) was fucking retarded. You just spam and get free crits + DoT as the fastest class in the game, it was busted and deserved to be nerfed. That being said, the sandman is useless now, so idk what to do with it. Knockback is annoying and gay, the slowdown is useless outside of cucking demoknights if the game wants to actually play nice, and giving it straight damage steps on the wrap assassin's toes
>>492914718am I taking crazy pills? did anyone in this thread play the fucking game before JI? the sandman + guillotine combo was something you used to fuck around and have fun, it was incredibly unreliable even if you were very good at it. even the Jungle Inferno page doesn't say anything about it being OP or doing too much damage, they removed the crits and mini-crits because they were ''''''''''too random''''''''''
>>492914281spawns happen in waves with around 10 seconds between them which is more than enough time for you to sap the teleporter
>>492914718I'm surprised there's no weapon in the game that actually takes ammo away from enemies. The only weapon that sort of does this is the Pomson 6000, which reduces Spy's cloak meter and Medic's Übercharge meter.
uh, anyone watching fish's stream right now?
>>492915231that would make a good backstab alternative that doesn't drop your disguise, it can even reuse the sapper animation
>>492915064>am I taking crazy pills?Clearly>did anyone in this thread play the fucking game before JI?Yes, obv>the sandman + guillotine combo was something you used to fuck around and have fun, it was incredibly unreliable even if you were very good at itNow I'm the one taking crazy pills. That combo is something you'd see every scout using in basically every lobby, and it was super annoying. You'd turn a corner and get deleted as a power class without even being able to react, it was not fun to play against>even the Jungle Inferno page doesn't say anything about it being OP or doing too much damage, they removed the crits and mini-crits because they were ''''''''''too random''''''''''>trusting the jungle inferno patch notesyou know the people responsible for all those nonsense weapon tweaks didn't even know why they were making them, right?
>>492916049there is never a situation where you are in backstab range where you wouldn't prefer to just outright kill the person with a backstab
>>492915086except for when he's constantly unsapping his tele and you have to wait for the spawn to be clear of players
>>492916389>That combo is something you'd see every scout using in basically every lobbyit was popular cause it was fun as fuck loland it was really not more common that the pistol or the mad milk>You'd turn a corner and get deleted as a power class without even being able to react??????????there's a minimum range for the stun to even work, and even at the minimun of 1 second you barely had enough time to switch and line up your cleaver throw. it really was not more powerful than just 2 meatshots. and, again, 15 second cooldown and 2 very hard to hit projectiles.what the fuck happened to this general? I though people were against nerfing the shit out of every playstyle, did some youtuber say the guillotine was bullshit or something?
>>492915231because that is an incredibly unfun mechanic, taking away your enemies' means to fight is bullshit, there's a reason people complain about the vaccinator
>>492916463being in range of a sentry or the beginning of a game where the enemy doesn't know you exist yetnot to mention the fact that backstabs are fucking loud so enemies will be instantly alerted to your presence because backstabs are crits and don't gib
>>492916614you're sapping it faster than he can unsap it, if you're really having trouble than just shoot the thing
Could anyone please recommend some videos of highlander spy gameplay? I understand it's very different to how spy is played in normal TF2 and was interested to see what exactly a spy does there.
>>492920025where are the surf servers?
>>492920025there's a Deadlock general, you should talk about it there
back in my day people tried harder at baiting
>>492920170whenever yoshi adds a dedicated server browser
>>492920217the future is now, old man
>>492920781SeeS or SooS?
>>492920781you don't even play Deadlock, do you?oh what am I saying, of course you don't.
>>492920485tell him to add it NOW NOW NOW NOW
>>492916820>it was popular cause it was fun as fuck lolIt was popular and fun because it was OP, OP things always are>it was really not more common than pistol or mad milkholy cope, yes it fucking was lol>there's a minimum range for the stun to even workyeah, you're not getting hit by it point blank because that's where scout is the most vulnerable, that's the problem. scout shouldn't have that damage at mid-long range>it really was not more powerful than just 2 meatshotsexcept you were able to safely spam it from mid range>and, again, 15 second cooldownthat's almost nothing when you've got a strong primary and are extremely mobile. you can be doing things while you wait for the short cooldown. something like the dead ringer for example with its comparable 20 second cooldown is a lot weaker because you're effectively neutered and useless until you get your cloak back>2 very hard to hit projectiles.they were not hard to hit in the slightest. the ball iirc was the fastest projectile in the game, you just had to hit their collision box, and the ball stun made the cleaver followup child's play. if anything, you are the guy who never played before JI if you lack this critical information>did some youtuber say the guillotine was bullshit or something?you're an actual NPC if you think this is necessary for people to recognize something as being a problem
>>492919315Yeah, except you're stuck there sapping it being super obvious right next to the enemy spawn, and shooting it just makes you even more obvious and basically guarantees your death from anyone in earshot
>>492919932he stands in random spots with the C&D making callouts. he's a glorified security camera. if he's lucky he gets to make a suicidal med pick after jumping off a high ledge
>>492922241holy wall of text>they were not hard to hit in the slightest. the ball iirc was the fastest projectile in the gamethis is how I know you're absolutely retarded. you didn't play before JI and if you did you were fucking shit and your memories are affected by your shittiness at the time. buh bye.
>>492922671I accept your defeat, no need to be a sore loser zoomer-kun
Retard.
>>492923128>>>they were not hard to hit in the slightest
>>492634396had to check the previous op out of curiosity, the anon was right >>492631921
>>492923128google "arc"
>>492923698I don't know why you're responding to a post from 2 days ago but no he wasn't right, anon was claiming the pic was bad because it was "used before" which it wasn't, at least not for a yearHad nothing to do with it being the same artist or whatever>>492632571
>>492923128>Loose Cannon faster than stock and the LnLIsn’t it technically the slowest because it’s massive projectile causes drag?
>>492661428If you are not abusing the wranglers shield its pretty normal to just get spammed out>>492671131It's a crutch. Really good players can airshot with stock and still enjoy one of soldiers primary upsides>>492876893There was also random damage back in the days, but none of the "game is silly and fun" crowd are asking it back. Real solution would just be to add quickplay back so everyone can enjoy their own niche in tf2 rather than this "correct way" to play casual that we have now. This is unfortunately never gonna happen because of most the community has started playing before MYM
>>492923559Yeah, that rings true since they both are tied for fastest projectile>>492923746Google "losing with grace"
>>492924514It's the opposite of a crutch lol, you don't even know what it means. Stock is a crutch compared to the DH, you're trading damage potential for chip damage if you can't aim
>>492924563>"losing with grace"lmao what is this debate club bullshitgive me a video of you hitting 3 mid-range sandman balls in a row right now
>>492924835>moving the goalposts
>>492924128Date doesn't matter, I realized the shit art and found that post today. No need to get pissy people don't like the shitty art from the OP.
>>492923128go play a round of tf2 and tell me how many times you get hit by stickies. jarate, rockets or syringes (supposedly really hard to hit)then tell me how many times you get hit by a manmelter, guillotine or ballif they're truly easier to hit you should get hit by then more often than by stickies etc. right?
>>492924969oh man your fellow debate club alumni are going to be so impressed when you show them this epic ownyou can hit me with the "ad hominem" right now you cocksucking retard
>>492925035Date does matter because it wasn't about the art itselfI'm not pissy or even the OP I just think that whole exchange from 2 days ago was autistic>erm.... no you can't use the same image more than once
>>492925385>this autistic when multiple anons dislike your shitty artywnbaw
>>492925535I literally said I'm not the OP you autist lmao what even is your problem
Hey OP use the SOVLFVL quickplay art for the next few threads
>>492925861nta but ur a sperg over art
>>492925198>>492925198>go play a round of tf2 and tell me how many times you get hit by stickies. jarate, rockets or syringes (supposedly really hard to hit)>then tell me how many times you get hit by a manmelter, guillotine or ballPlayer use statistics has almost no bearing on what you're trying to describe here. Stickies, rockets, and jarate are all commonly used because they're easy to hit and do a lot of damage. You don't see syringes used a whole lot offensively, because nobody wants to play medic, and if they do they're used to heal teammates instead. Manmelter is just plain bad so you almost never see it, but its projectile is quite easy to land.>if they're truly easier to hit you should get hit by then more often than by stickies etc. right?Wrong, because nobody uses them as often anymore, since the combo that was so strong was removed ages ago. Try thinking logically instead of emotionally, only women and troons do the latter.
people are really angry on the 100 player server shit is like a ww1 trench
What's the best shotgun class?and why is it Engi
>>492925929I'm literally just correcting him because he didn't understand the context of the convo he was reviving for some reason, I don't care about the art itself
>>492926095because it's his primary weapon
>>492926103he's right about the art sucking and the same artist being shilled here though. don't let it get to you timmy
>>492922419>the enemy team actively trying to help their engineer
>>492926039the what
>>492926187they're not trying to help their engineer, they're trying to frag a spy going *POP* *POP* *POP* *POP* at their spawn undisguised
not any of those previous anons but I like the OP art
not any of those previous anons but i dislike the OP art
not any of those previous anons but i am ambivalent towards the OP art
>>492926376>>492926451
The OP art looks like tumblr slop
tumblr wouldn't have made her thicc with a cameltoe
the art is fine and you're a sperg if you get upset that an image gets posted twice
>>492926357they're way too busy not being at spawn and instead fighting at the frontlineit's the same reason why ninjaneers work, nobody ever investigates anything that isn't a crit death scream or a decloak noise
the art is garbage and you're entitled to this opinion, anyone who gets mad at that is a sperg
I like the attractive young lady in the op Hope the artist isn’t a troon
I dislike the art in the opeven more after finding out theyre a troon
I'm an aryan superstraight so I like the artwork
>>492927237>>492927432based and straightpilled
>>492927419>MAN in name>male in biohe's not a troon
>>492927795ftm
>>492927795shut up shut up shut up this doesn't fit my narrative informed by my obsession shut up
>>492927795>man instead of mannthat roodypoo candyass doesn't even play tf2
OP art sucks, stop samefagging and obssessively defending it and move on timmantha
is the artist in the room with us right now?
>>492926912no they're not, case in point all the times I've actually tried what you're suggesting and it doesn't work 8/10 times instead of just theorycrafting
>>492928351>get everyone in the thread talking about it>now everyone in the thread is the same personunironically meds
>>492928491what kind of maps are you playing on, CTF? KOTH?
>>492928626>still obsessively defending it>for freeyou're as ugly as the art man
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dude's art goes hard and I like it more now that it lives rent free in this autist's head
>>492928772>slowest class in the game>requires you to be behind the enemy or get lucky>doesn't work if opponent is in the air or a cloaked spy>is not the FoS/GRU>you're not using your primarythe only argument you have is it can stun ubers
>>492928927based
>>492928927>tumblr.jpgglad you like that timmy, but it sucks
>>492928772kritz holiday punch op, volvo pls nerf
>>492929105post your art
>>492929303Nah, stop shilling yours tho
>>492929441thought so, bitch.not the artist but I'm going to keep posting it because it makes you seethe
>>492929972I dont feel anything about the art, thats why it's bad art. Art is supposed to make you feel... and simply put I feel nothing, it's slop to be added to md5 filter. Hope this helps you understand why some may dislike your art though, anon.
>muh feelswomen shouldn't be allowed on the internet
>>492930198on the contrary, I think it's clearly making you feel emotions such as "seething," "anger," and "coping"
art is subjective you tard. because you dislike it doesn't make it bad lmao
>>492930658You got him sister, keep spamming the kino art, next round of hrt is on me
art is subjective you tard. because i like it doesn't make it good lmao
blud's really out here having a melty over some stylized tf2 fan art lmao
>>492928679payload, the only thing people actually make teleporters on
>>492931785fr, as if spamming the bad art is going to change what people think of it
>>492928927I want to pump obscene loads into her
>>492932084I have done nothing but pump loads into her for 3 days
>>492932234WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN PUMPING IT!?
>>492933000he...just told you where
>>492933000>cum monster emerges from her cunt
>>492933072there are at least 3 holes you could pump loads into
>>492928927bro doesn't even have a tag on the boorus
two of us riding nowherespending someone'shaaaaard eaaaaarned pay
some bitch at vyne and tell him to make more art
I like that yuanman artist for the fempyro tittieshttps://files.catbox.moe/xcl8tb.png
what's the best lou reed album to listen to while I game
>>492939830berlin
>>492940618too soft, too depressing
>>492941247roll dice then mufag
>>492941247>no not that onewhat a fucking retard
>>492943443Berlin is NOT good gaming music
>>492943735lou reed is not good gaming music he's a 90 year old emo kid
>>492945519he's dead
>demoknight's fine lol>gets to be invincible and 2-shot everyone and teleport away whenever he runs into a counter
>>492922241I started playing in 09 and can verify that the sandman guillotine combo was fucking cancerous.
>>492948093>Dies to anything that could fuck over his dash
>>492948093Headshots terminate his charge. I love stranding them on their way to me, but just out of melee reach then calmly tickling on them with the SMG to clean up their remaining health while they either panic swing at me or attempt to waddle away.
>>492948093Demoknight running the half Zatoichi actually pisses me off. Try killing one when you have a braindead team that feeds him health, its impossible.
>>492949107well sorry the map is so crampy and I got jumpscared, not my fault your pussy ass is staying behind instead of jumping him with us.
>>492949107What class and loadout are you having trouble killing him on? It's a free kill for scout, sniper, or soldier with a shotgun and or the direct hit.
>>492948753no he doesn't, because nothing can fuck over his dash
>>492948975no they don't, because he's too fast for anyone to headshot and he doesn't stay out in the open for snipers to hardscope him>>492949107I would rather have one than an eyelander pussy>>492950739>soldier>when he resists 50% of all his dmg
>>492950925airblast
>>492951046It's called a quickscope, and I do it every game of koth on sniper. If you can't then you should practice because they are the easy mode flankers you have to regularly deal with if you want to operate independently of your team.
>>492951046Did you miss the part about the shotgun? Shoot his feet then shotgun him in the air. Repeat until he's a corpse. It isn't difficult.
>>492951285teach us then
>>492951463m2 m1
>>492951574don't know anything about that shit
>>492951756Well now it makes sense that you can't kill a demo. You use those buttons to fire.
>>492951881What fire? We are not playing as pyro, are you regarded?
>>492952175Rifles are regarded as firearms.
>>492952401My rifle shoots piss
>>492952475Try the stock for this matchup. Bullets work better for blacks.
>>492951103he's faster than pyro, his dash puts out fire, and he can just run away and never ever engage the pyro except when ambushing and critting>>492951285>uh it's called a :nerd glasses emoji:i don't give a shit, he has 235 health and a quickscope doesn't stop him, and it's not even a legitimate counter since 99.99% of people are dead before they can even do it, and they die after anyway since he still has enough hp to 1-2 shot you and theyre as fast a scout, which you arent quickscoping>>492951457no i didnt miss the part about tickling him with jellybeans. shooting demonights in the feet when theyre charging doesnt launcher them up idfk why. you saying it isnt difficult just outs you as a poser whos never even tried it
>>492952578A quickscope stops him dead in his tracks retard.
Isn't machina a direct upgrade from stock?
>>492952578>can't beat the designated loser meme class with the designated winner classngmi
>>492952901Unscoped rifle shots are meant to combo into your other weapons. You don't switch melee, you hip-fire + melee. You don't SMG, you hipfire plus SMG etc. So yes, you give up significant damage in all up close situations.
>>492953065I thought snipers usually just quickscopes or just bushwacka whenever there's someone close
>>492953256If a sniper only needs quickscopes he is either cheating or maxed out on the skill ceiling. Jatate bushwaka is a meme that gets retards killed all the time where they could safely have killed the same target while repositioning with the SMG.
>>492952698if it did how come it doesn't>>492952926we're talking about demoknight not pyro
>>492954373I am telling you the truth. If you headshot him mid charge it ends the charge. You cuck the shit out of him and get to kill him in whatever way you want afterwards.
>>492954373How new?
>>492953461>Jatate bushwaka is a meme[LIE]
>>492955175It absolutely is. Maybe you have youtuber brain and have been lead to believe otherwise, but if you played the game you'd know it mostly leads to overconfident suicide charges. Maybe the spy is threatened by it, but not much else.
>>492954561right, it "ends the charge" 2 feet from you and he 2 shots you while flying around like an utter spastic
>>492955394Nah, I'd win.
>>492955351Actually I just play the game, unlike you.>Maybe the spy is threatened by it, but not much else.Oh, so you mean the only case where it matters?
>>492955507I've probably played the game more than you. You don't need jarate buskwaka to deal with spy. And losing a versatile secondary to sure up that matchup doesn't make much sense to me. I'd so much rather have my SMG.
>>492955767You don't need it, but it turns your natural counter into a complete joke that will never ever kill you again, because apparently sniper's allowed to have long range instakills and short range instakills, but spy only gets the one because the ambassador was too strong :(
>>492955507If the spy's competent then he should be able to get an ez stab since the sniper's not wearing the razorbackAs for literally any other class:>2 melee swings (1.0 seconds) to kill the sniper, or 2 primary weapon attacks (0.8 seconds at most) to kill the snipervs>Switch to jarate (0.67 seconds), throw jarate (theoretically 0 seconds), then switch to bushwacka (0.67 seconds), then swing bushwacks (0.2 seconds)The jarate + bushwacka combo doesn't put sniper at an advantage unless the enemy is retarded; it's just a last ditch strat similar to praying for a random melee critJarate is still busted on its own though, try using it as a team support tool instead of a personal bushwacka enabler
>>492955767>losing a versatile secondaryThe Jarate is literally more versatile than his SMGs.>Put out fires>Assist teammates by coating the entire enemy team in a debuff that will ruin their entire push>Combo it with the BW for self defenseMeanwhile all the SMG does is... be a slightly better pistol that you'll almost never have a use for because you do most of your work with your rifle from a safe distance.
>>492956824>If the spy's competent then he should be able to get an ez stab since the sniper's not wearing the razorbackThis is a non-sequitur. Any competent sniper isn't going to hardscope long enough for a spy to sneak up on them, they're going to look around after every shot and when they're not scoped in, and they're going to be attentive enough to hear a spy decloaking nearby trying to get the drop on them.>Just decloak further away and then approach themOk, then they catch you sneaking up because disguises don't fool anybody>Just wait until they're scoped in before going for a stabOh wait, they only scope in when they go to shoot, then they look around for any spies, which doesn't give you enough time to apprach>Just do XYZThey're behind their team with their back watched by at the very least a pyro or a turtle, trying to stab them is suicideYour example assumes the sniper has 0 situation awareness, in which case yeah, by the time they switch to their jarate they're dead, but at that point nothing will save them. The issue is the other half of them time where even if you get the drop on them and they jarate you, you die anyway from their teammates nuking your HP away with 35% more dmg.
>>492956830Maybe you play sniper as far back as possible, but I like to move. I kill so many people with their SMG it makes me wonder why more people don't use it. People like you build the expectation that nobody has it, and I get to punish people all day for that. Doing shit for my team isn't the kind of versatility I am talking about. I mean being able to kill a greater variety of enemies in different situations.
>>492957291>I kill so many people with their SMG it makes me wonder why more people don't use it.because noscoping with the rifle is better and does more damage
>>492957425No, it isn't. You hip fire + smg
>>492957291it's not that deep bro, quit huffing your own farts>>492957471yeah it is
>>492957528Whatever dude, you're wrong and obviously haven't tried the alternatives.
>>492957284>spy is weak if the other player knows he's thereThis is an inherent + intended flaw of the class, literally git gud or change classes (I suggest pyro or soldier)Do you have any legitimate arguments?
>>492957723More than you apparently
>>492957951I, too, would love to instantly kill everyone I come across with zero counterplay but random crybabies on tf2 forums keep saying that would "ruin the game's balance" or some retarded shitspy main oppression needs to end NOW
>>492958293>I, too, would love to instantly kill everyone I come across with zero counterplayJust play sniper
>>492958971>come across a heavy/demo/soldier/pyro>quickscope>die before I can even swap weapons or get another shot inI think sniper's charge should be removed. Total bullshit. What the fuck did I learn quickscoping for?
>>492958971I don't disagree with you
scout, soldier, demo, and medic should be the only classes in the game because they all allow for counterplayrandom crits + bullet spread should also get removed because you can't counterplay shitty rngretvrn to competitive mode
Are RETARDS crying about SpyGODS again?
The kunai should only add health if the player that is killed has themselves gotten a kill. There fixed.
>>492960936That same life, if that isn't clear.
>>492960936The kunai should make the spy bleed for 8 seconds on a successful stabNerfed
The kunai should give spy health even when the kill is a regular shiv and not a backstab*Tsk* buffed.
>>492960936Non-game designers giving game design advice. You all sicken me.
>>492961370this but only 35hp
Is there a mod that removes the printed voice commands?I'm tired of the chat being flooded with >(voice) SPY>(voice) MEDIC>(voice) MOVE UP
Are sprays off by default in casual?
>>492963098Yes, have been for a long time
>>492962974quit being tired of it, there's your mod
me when i go crazy with dem choppas on sniper
>>492962974use the console commandhud_saytext_time 0
>>492926095Widowmaker is fun because it's infinite ammo mode unless you spam down minis and short circuits
>>492964919That's total chat mute, you filter out public chat just using the chat filters too, but it's not what I'm looking for.It's silly you cant filter out voice prints too.
>>492965236Oh well. Maybe you can mod the files. Erase the voice line captions in the files so that the text is blank.
>>492964921Widowmaker + short circuit + gunslinger is basically godmode against soldiers and demosSoldier vs engie is my favorite matchup in class wars for exactly that reason
>>492966356Sure, I'm just talking if you throw down a mini and a ball without getting ammo, your 1 shot with the widowmaker better really count
>>492925896As you wish anon>>492966932>>492966932>>492966932
>>492962974you can't without a server plugin called tidychat
