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>General Info on Final Fantasy
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com

>What version should I play?
http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E [Open]

>Final Fantasy XVI Info
https://na.finalfantasyxvi.com
>Launch Trailer "Salvation"
https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs [Open]
>DLC
https://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfc [Open]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aveDvd66clk [Open]
>PC Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBqpFlA_4Is [Open]

>Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
https://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFw [Open]
>Final Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q56cRDseTGQ [Open]

>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis
https://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE [Open]
>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia
https://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visions
https://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius
https://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD

>Final Fantasy XI
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

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7/10ish
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7/10ish
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I like FFX, but I liked FFX-2 even more.
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5.2/10ish
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Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it
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Thread’s already fucked. Start over.
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Any Rebirth experts around?
Question: do you have to win/finish a battle with an enemy you've assessed for it to "stick"? I'm mainly trying to see if I need to re-beat certain Chadley quests to get assessed data to stick or not.. But, in general.
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>>492922427
>LGBTQ
KEK
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XVI killed the series.
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>>492922517
The Rebirth experts are too busy shitposting about Yoshida.
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>>492922427
>LGBTQ
Now all these illogical defenses of XVI suddenly make sense.
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16 was shit
7Remake was shit
Rebirth was shit too
Yoshida is a hack with 0 creativity who gave up on his job 8 years ago, Nojima is a dogshit writer one step removed from bottom of the barrel fanfiction authors and Kitase is as much talented as wet cardboard is sturdy
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>>492922427
>RPG
KEK
>Action RPG
KEK
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>>492923715
RPG tag just means it has damage numbers now.
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>>492923516
Yeah. Tonbarry probably expected lots of LGBT representation, but the poor lady only got 5 minutes of a single white gay couple. Sad.
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>>492922427
Grim. How can we blame this on Barry?
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>>492923713
And XV?
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>>492923908
Oh that's easy.
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>>492924062
Bloated garbage with pointless multimedia shit that still ended up being fucking unfinished
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Is he still melting down over XVI? Shouldn't you play videogames or something? I got BE, WotV, FEH, Wukong, Gundam Breaker 4, wrapping up TotK, and some BTD6 to play instead of being a bitch.
>492922605
>492923516
>492922427
>492922263
>492922160
>492923715
>492923908
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SoP is an action game
SoP is an rpg
SoP is an action rpg
SoP is Final Fantasy

XVI is not an rpg
XVI is an action game
XVI is not an action rpg
XVI is not Final Fantasy
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Why doesn't /ffg/ have proper moderation like other websites have?
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>>492924601
You should go back.
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>>492924601
When 5ch have one
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>>492924601
Wouldn't need to moderate for negativity if XVI was a good game.
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>>492925083
Kek gottem
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>>492924313
>Is he still melting down over XVI?
Always.
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ffxvi killed ffg
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>>492924313
I've been playing KCD while laughing at the yoshi-p fanclub.
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>>492925083
I mean if menage-kun just took his meds there wouldn't be any negativity.
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>>492925368
You mean seething at them?
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>>492925083
Oof
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>>492925440
I have nothing to be jealous of them for lol
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Threadly reminder that once upon a time the thread's resident hate cultists (singular) defended pedophila by deflecting to bestiality.
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>>492925637
Minus the constant posting and anger management issues you have.
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>492925658
>492925819
I wonder what set him off today?
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>>492922517
Tested it myself, the answer is no you don't have to.
I entred a battle with an enemy I needed to assess, via Chadley. Soon as the round started, I assessed the enemy, got the info, then Gave Up/Quit. Backed all the way out, checked the Enemy Intel, and it indeed shows the magnifying glass. You just need to get to the enemy and assess, you don't have to kill it.
I will say, you can't die though, that WILL reset the assess if you have to restart.
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>>492925972
His 0/10 metacritic reviews have probably gotten deleted and he's lashing out to cope.
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>>492922427
>lgbt+ tag
That's a good idea. I'll tag it too.
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One true love and kissu chu!
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>>492924601
Context?
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>>492924313
He's getting mad cuz he got btfo last thread for his illiteracy.
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I like XVI, but I liked XV even more.
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>>492923715
lol
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>>492927190
Based
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Why is the FF16 DLC $70 each on steam? Are they like full new games or?
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>>492927190
Why did XVI utterly lack iconic lines like this? Pretty much all it has is the title drop at the end and only because of how cheesy it was.
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>>492928487
XVI flopped hard so they need as much money as they can get.
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>>492922427
Common Barry W.
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>>492928487
Still made more money than XV.
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>>492926308
The best.
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Unbutton Yuffie and give Red XIII his balls back!
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>>492928982
>10 million x $50 = $500 million
Wow...
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>>492925658
yoshitroons be like that
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>>492928982
Why are you always lying?
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JP message boards are shitting on yoshitpiss extra hard right now for being so out of touch with why people hate FF14 Dawntrail
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>>492922160
>Anyway, here's how trannyXIII is 10/10
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>>492929327
>we could have fixed wuk lamat by making her a more assertive girlboss
Maybe he should get a job writing for Disney Star Wars.
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>>492928982
>>492924091
>>492926710
>there are people mentally ill enough to spend their entire day doing this
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>>492929253
Why are you always projecting and samefagging?
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>>492929847
>XVIbitch says while projecting
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>>492922464
This
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>>492928982
XV made more sales and more money in its first month than any FF in history

XVI hasn't even made what XV made on its first day yet, and XV was profitable day 1, XVI made 0 profit so the 3m sales amounted to $0 profit
meanwhile XV was PROFITABLE WITHIN the revenue made from the 5m day 1 sales and SE explicitly stated it exceeded expectations and did 6m in a month

Meanwhile XVI underperformed
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>>492929847
why is xvi the lowest selling mainline FF in history? oh because nobody likes yoshitpiss slop
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>>492928982
Yeah? XV made 60% of its budget back just from the mobile game alone, not counting the 10 million lifetime sales of the main game.
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yoshitpiss said ff16 is the most expensive FF ever made... and it made $0 in profit to cover that.... oof...


what a failure xvi is...

SE made more money in fy2025 q1 where they released literally nothing than they made in fy2024 q1 where they released ff16...

ff16 damaged the brand, SEs financials, their operating income, stock and fucked over other in development games causing them to get cancelled for ff16s failure
and now ff14 dawntrail is the lowest rated ff in history...
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>>492931273
FF16 looks amazing, alright—amazingly trash.
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>>492928612
As someone who only ever played XV, XVI looks like they tried less and had a lower budget. The chocobros are also nothing but sovl.
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>>492928982
Is this true chat?
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>>492929847
>>492928982
you triggered the shitposter and his phones
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>>492931854
No need to project, sis.
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>tfw witnessing a legitimate effort to defend a five hundred million dollar game while simultaneously attacking a game with a 1/10th of a budget for no reason
>go back several threads
>same shit
I would never think that someone could be so miserable to do this on a anime forum but here the fuck we are.
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>>492930893
What is this A New Empire game?
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My wife Eiko is super cute!
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>>492932753
>defend a five hundred million dollar game while simultaneously attacking a game with a 1/10th of a budget for no reason
The yoshicult really needs a win right now, pls understand.
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Aerisu!
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>>492930893
Is ANE worth playing?
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>>492933212
hate cult is right, holy shit
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>>492933394
All they do is hate anything that wasn't made by yoshida.
Sadly, it won't save XIV or XVI.
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why is barry shitting up the thread tonight?
XVI >>>> XV and it's not even close.
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>>492933507
Get got outted for SEA-SL last thread.
>>492933479
Pretty sure he's talking about the yoshida hate cult. Because there is no other hate cult on /ffg/.
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Yoshida's game might split us apart, but one day Nomura will reunite us with his passion project that will become the ultimate Final Fantasy that nobody hates.

That day will come, trust the plan.
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I liked XVI but I didn't like Dawntrail
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>>492929847
It's all it has. 24/7.
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Apologize.
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>>492933771
Kino...
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>>492933507
>XVI >>>> XV
at being the worst ff
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10/10 ish
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>>492934997
Yes, XVI is the worst at sucking. XV is essentially Final Floptasy because it killed the brand. There is no way,without a doubt, 10/10 FFXVI can squeeze under such a low bar.
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>>492935243
How so?
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>>492934416
how would she fix Dawntrail?
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>>492935243
Not with those temple puzzles
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>>492922427
Maybe instead of spamming "PC when?" we should have been spamming "PC why?".
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>>492935745
>amazing ost
>beautiful story and themes
>great characters
>beautiful graphics
>comfy world/setting and atmosphere
>intricate character details to further flesh them out
>memorable scenes
>bittersweet ending (i have a thing for bittersweet endings)
playing ff10 feels so good!
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>>492936157
We need to give tonbarry something to do so he can justify his $000,000 salary.
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>>492936067
Ishikawa at her worst is still Shakespeare compared to Hiroi.
>>492934416
I keep apologizing but she still hasn't come back...
>>492933507
very true
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>>492936123
the bevelle puzzle is horrible but most the temple puzzles are fine.
and unless you really want the extra item from the destruction sphere you can do them pretty quickly too.
although, i couple of them like killika have weird solutions to progress like moving a statue onto the statue reset switch which ngl, it took me a while to figure that out first time i played.
but bevelle is just monotonous and takes too long no matter what. even if you know what you're doing.
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>Osmose+Meteor is MP positive against some enemies and it lets you spam it close to forever while crawling through a dungeon.
>Thundaga+Quick+Thundagax4 was able to kill Leviathan before it even got to act.
>Mimic copies both casts for free
So that was why it took so long to master red mage compared to the rest, double cast is so broken.
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>>492936249
>$000,000 salary
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>>492923516
>>492922427
>>492922537
>>492926253
Why is the hate cult such lying faggots?
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Did all those people agreeing with each other just leave at the same time?
Weird.
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>>492937721
Works on my machine.
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>>492938284
>Tags you've applied to this product:
So you admit that you're just shitposting then.
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>>492936246
Now this is a 10/10 game, unlike Shitstain.
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>>492938284
>Party-based RPG
KEK
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>>492933507
lol
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>>492938737
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>the Yoshida hate cult is obsessed with LGBTQ+
Makes sense. Their greatest ally is a known "stumbler" after all.
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>>492935687
xvi killed the brand
no surprise it was shat out by yoshitpiss so of course its bad
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>>492938656
Ikr? I reported it. The audacity of XVI-kun to make 1000s of fake steam accounts to put fake user tags. He should get a real job or something.
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>>492938979
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>>492938250
Yeah they also strangely got banned for 3 days just recently. All of them.
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>>492938435
But there is LGBTQ+ content in it? Why are you upset?
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>>492939327
There are more gay NPCs in Rebirth. There isn't even an LGBTQ+ tag on Baldur's Gate 3.
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Was wondering why the last thread went from 500 to bump limit and why this one was 150 deep almost but honestly it's exactly what I expected so jokes on me for thinking anything interesting happened.
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>>492938869
LMAO
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>>492939094
>top - standing, doing nothing
>bottom - actually doing gymnastics
This meme makes no sense.
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>>492939094
I love the downgrade on the top from "critically acclaimed" to "w-well regarded?"
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>>492939840
XVI do be like that
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>>492939416
Dion is one of the main characters. The gay kiss is in your face. You won’t even notice gay shit in Rebirth unless you go looking for it.
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tbf in 7's case.
ff7 always had gay shit in it.
corneo chooses trap cloud over aerith and tifa
the hot springs guys have fun with cloud.
except one thing, it was joke back then.
gay shit HAS to be taken seriously now or else.
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>>492939705
The Yoshida haters are very uppity today for some reason.
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>>492938815
FFXVI demo save carries over to the full game so XVI demo is literally just early access FFXVI, while XV PC demo is its own thing that doesn't carry over.

Even despite that XV demo had higher peak ccu than XVI demo and there's more people currently PAYING to play FFXV itself than downloading and playing the FREE FFXVI demo that is literally the start of FFXVI


XVI demo also has an abysmal rating on Steam down at fucking 53% while XV demo has 87%
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>>492939094
It's really sad how badly XVI killed FF only after XV saved it.
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>>492939416
>but other games
I will tag them too :)
No matter how you try to spin it, 2 men making out is undeniably LGBTQ+ content and I am correct to put that tag on it.
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>>492940637
see
>>492929847
>>492928982
>>492924091
>>492933763
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>>492936249
Oho hohohohoho
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>>492938656
lol
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lol
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>>492941671
why is that tidus mirrored?
the catching gauntlet is on his left arm and he uses his right arm to throw
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>>492936249
you have triggered the shitposter
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>>492938558
>>492938774
>>492939067
>>492939317
>>492939816

Why is she flaunting her armpits?
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>>492938284
BASED
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>>492922427
>>492941841
So this is the power of Square Enix's Creative Studio 3 headed by Naoki Yoshida...
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>>492942305
Hate cult eating good like usual
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>>492941841
I don't play mmo shit. What's so bad about it?
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>>492941841
Yes, we hate Dawntrail.
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>>492942507
bad writing (worse than usual) that sidelines your player character for a mary sue furry OC
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>>492942584
shitbringer is shit too
all of xiv is bad
its not a real ff and never will be
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How many hours has it been so far? 8? I really hope they're getting paid for this.
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>>492943567
Yoshitpiss isn't gonna fuck you lil bro
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>>492943567
Yeah, if calling a shitty game a 10/10 on the internet got me paid, I’d do it too.
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>>492938815
>He did his classic double reply to this anon's post
I didn't think he'd actually care that much about something like this like really?
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>>492922427
the cult has been seething non-stop since this post
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RK won because it’s still alive in JP
BE won because it’s still alive in JP
OO lost because it’s dead everywhere
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Would you a psycho mommy?
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>>492945209
Wrong it was years before this: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/336800610/337003396
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>>492946561
I could fix her.
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>>492946653
>screaming at yoshida since before 2021
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>>492943567
You seem to be paying attention and doing the same though, except 24/7
Does the Yoshida cult pay YOU though?
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>>492828117
I called Yu Yevon a psychopath not because of his desire to stay in the dream world of timelessness, but because he enslaved the people of Zanarkand and forced them dream Dream Zanarkand, and because he transformed himself into Sin to make sure that no one alive would disrupt his fragile dream, ruining the lives of a huge number of innocent people of Spira. His dreams exist at the expense of the fayth from Mt. Gagazet and the lives of vast amounts of people. Ironically, in X the Fayth themselves summoned Tidus to relieve them of the imposed burden of dreaming Zanarkand.
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>>492946964
>Does the Yoshida cult pay
$000,000 per hour
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>>492946964
>>492947626
both me btw
>>492936249
you really pissed me off so i am going to copy you
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>>492947626
>$000,000 per hour
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>>492947930
A shitpost based on reality. The ultimate Final Shitpost.
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>>492946964
>paying attention
It's over 50% of what this thread is.
>except 24/7
Every post you dislike is not one person.
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>bitches about yoshida copying anything
>literally copies posts 5 minutes later
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>>492828117
>If one could create Heaven on Earth, is it wrong to do so even if it results in the death of the "real world"?
If it's attainable, then maybe the answer is "no", nothing wrong, but in the context of X as a story, all projects of permanent existence have, to say the least, their flaws. The flaws of Yu Yevon's project I have already explained. The story in X operates under the premise that Heaven on Earth or somewhere else, whatever it looks like, is impossible: there is nothing to indicate that any form of cosmic level alchemy in X is achievable through Pyreflies, just as nothing hints at the existence of an accessible immaterial Paradise in X's universe. It's sort of reasonable to say the same thing about IRL, I guess. And in considering unattainable fantasies of paradise, I think it's always worth distinguishing such fantasies by their pragmatic function: which unattainable ideas do and do not lead to more suffering/pleasure for people. There are unattainable fantasies and idealisations which under certain conditions lead to greater prosperity for the kind, there are harmless unattainable fantasies, and there are fantasies dangerous to such a thing as life itself. An example can be taken from the history of early Christianity, since we're talking about paradises and stuff. What is better for such a simple thing as biological life, the ethics of the Marcionists, who believed that children should not be born, for more children -> more matter -> more of the Demiurge's realm, or maybe ethics of some anti-social Gnostics, or the ethics of the Old and New Testaments? All these systems presuppose the attainment of the purest ideal in one form or another, but the methodology, the pragmatic function of their ethics in relation to this very world differed significantly. That is why what we now call OG Orthodox Christianity won, while the Gnostic eschatological speculations with characteristic anti-social ethics did not.

need more characters!
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>>492947626
Kek you pissed her off so bad she's going to have to stay up for an additional 8 hours to shitpost.
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>>492828117
Same with Yu Yevon: if he had given people eternal bliss or at least something resembling good life, then his morality could be debated. He brought only grief and misery to the people of Spira, to the people of Zanarkand (fayth), and to himself to be honest.
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>>492948376
>Every post you dislike is not one person.
are the yoshitroon cult this ironic?
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>>492947930
That's kinda pathetic, Yoshida sister...
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>>492948845
I said "they", you shitposting retard.
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Forspoken won in the end.
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>>492824465
I agree that
>i just think 10's ending resolved its themes well.
X is largely a victim of its own exceptionally masterful ending. In terms of the lore/theory of Spira's world, the hidden problem that causes creatures like Sin to appear is really unresolved, but in terms of the pure feelings and of the personal relationship between the story and the player, X is a completely closed and fulfilled piece due to its thematic density and consistency culminating in an ending after which nothing needs to be added. Pure feelings don't care about lore.

>but i also kinda hate how this has to be dragged out.
>everything after made it messy and introduced unnecessary conflicts.
Thematically X and X-2 are absolutely identical stories: the same conceptual core is explored and the same thematic messages are made (pic related), but you're right, the very existence of X-2 diminishes the gravity and depth of X's ending.
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>>492949058
What pathetic is you had to inspect element again after uuuuuuuuuh 10+ hours of shitting up the thread.
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>>492949058
He thinks you're me lmao. Barry has torn that man's mind asunder.
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>>492824465
Speaking in general terms, the one strategy is some form of disenchantment of the world: the Pyreflies need to go away, maybe something needs to be done about the fayth. The real and fantasy aspects of the universe must be separated in some way. FF creators use this idea all the time and it can be adapted to the theme of letting go.

Another possible way is the Chocobo Racing strategy! Harmonising fantasy and reality, constructively resolving the conflict between the fantastical and real aspects of Spira. Based and Chocobo-chad-pilled! Vanille approves!
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>>492949839
That's the natural assumption when you disappear/post/get banned at the same time. Maybe you should start organizing shifts for full tantrum coverage.
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>>492949938
This post is meant to answer the questions:
>how would that problem even be solved if it involves pyreflies?
>get rid of pyreflies?
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>>492922087
>[Open]
>OO, BE and XVI still in the OP
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>>492948668
pls understand, yoshida lives so rent free in the shitposter's head that he emulates him sept he is too dumb to distinguish inspiration and plagiarism and thus copies shitposts that anger him so much
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>he's samefagging again
Kek """barry""" has angered him so deeply he started copying his tactics. Yoshida cult never beating the plagiarism allegations.
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>>492950785
Afraid so
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>>492949095
why so mad and projecting (again), yoshitroon?
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>>492949839
>>492950785
And they have the nerve to call other people schizophrenic
Again, pretty ironic that the Yoshida cult lacks self awareness
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>tell the hate cultist he projects and he spend the rest of the thread telling posts he hates to stop doing the things he's done prior
Cute and canon!
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>>492951864
Unfortunately sadly true...
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I didn't post anything yet
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>>492950785
Kek
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does arguing here really produce more dopamine than playing Final Fantasy?
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>>492952661
But we are playing final fantasy. /ffg/ is a turn-based thread. That's probably why the hate cultists (singular) love to shitpost.
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>>492953097
but Final Fantasy has never been turn-based.
It's always been Active Time Battle (J-Action Kino)
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>>492953787
That is pretty kino ngl.
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>>492953787
It doesn't count if its not 4 niggas in a row
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This game is going to dab on XVI so hard. I juat can’t wait to play it.
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>>492950785
LMAO
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>every single game in existence is only ever used to shitpost XVI
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>>492954174
still looks like a shitty gacha game ad
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>>492953787
>but Final Fantasy has never been turn-based.
yoshitroons newfag is showing
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>>492954351
Reality itself exists only to shitpost XVI.
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but i hope you guys enjoy it!
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>>492953787
return to tradition...
return to based
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>>492954580
none of my quintessential quotes are in there
0/10
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>>492954798
i put "ff5 is the quintessential ff game"
but i respect your opinion, bro
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>>492954580
Cinema.
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>>492954580
saved
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>>492954893
oh shit I see it haha
nice
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>>492953994
>>492954174
I hate the visual style of this. I've said it before, but it looks like Tim Burton tried to do a Disney fantasy movie. And then the gameplay looks more like SMRPG or Legend of Dragoon or Shadowhearts or Lost Odyssey (or any of the various indie titles like Sea of Stars) than it does Final Fantasy.
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>>492954580
I am never going to unsee this.
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>>492954580
Hey that's my quote
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>>492953994
>>492954174
GoTY
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>>492955227
as opposed to xvi being generic action slop?
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>>492955534
Fortunately, your opinion is merely your opinion.
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>>492955534
XVI is anything but that
It's got a pretty unique and varied combat system
see >>492953787 and >>492954634
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>>492955534
Final Fantasy was trending towards "action" for a long time. That's why the ATB system was created. It only returned to turn-based briefly for X, and the ATB returned even with X-2. Then there's XII which isn't turn-based and is trending more towards "action", then there's XIII which is also trending more towards "action", then there's XV which is essentially "action", and then XVI which is actually action. It's been a long time coming, anon.

Regardless, the game shown is not the direction Final Fantasy was headed and it is not the direction Final Fantasy ever took. That game is the direction that all those other games I named took, and none of those games are Final Fantasy.
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>>492948103
Lol
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>>492936779
Lol
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>>492957263
>>492957504
this is just getting pathetic
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Vanille is the only way.
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>>492922087
Square Enix should make a Star Wars game.
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>>492958720
>Devil May Cry
I wish it was anywhere close.
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>>492957548
Agreed! Its only okay if its shitting on yoshida.
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i think tidus and jecht high-fiving at the end of 10 makes a lot of sense.
it's not just as a sign of victory over yu yevon.
it's them accepting each other.
could also be like jecht "subbing in" tidus to the afterlife.

the high-five also has ties to sports.
it was a baseball player who popularized it.
tidus and jecht are sports players.
it's just nice.
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>>492955534
you got the cult REALLY mad
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>>492961612
XVI is too serious and mature for Devil Memes Cry
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>>492961612
Why is Vergil so cool?
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XVIfags have NEVER played DMC but they like to call their game DMC-like
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>>492966459
>XVIfags have NEVER played DMC
Wrong.
>but they like to call their game DMC-like
There's that projection yet again. I stopped counting at 20 times this thread alone.
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>/v/ is shitting on xvi again
No wonder this thread died so suddenly
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>>492966560
cute damage control, yoshipiss fag
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The literal only people I've ever seen compare XVI to DMC are the Yoshida hate cult.
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>>492966629
It's the same very small handful of people who spend their entire lives shitposting about Yoshida. Nothing new. Dead on /v/, alive on /ffg/. Dead on /ffg/, alive on /v/. Round and round it goes. Surely they must be getting paid by someone. I can't believe that real human beings would shitpost like this for years of their lives.
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>>492966629
>/v/ hating a game
That means its a good game.
>>492966648
Buddy, you're a flopwoken apologist. Your kind is only capable of projection towards the people you hate and lying about yourself. You've verifiably have done this throughout the last 3 threads.
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>>492967078
>>492967078
>/v/ hating a game
>That means its a good game.
Ahh yes, Dustborn, Starfield, and Concord must all be GOTY contenders then.
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yuna is constantly giggling at tidus.
even just in the background.
you can see how much she liked him even early on.
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>>492967078
>Buddy, you're a flopwoken apologist
Hey newfag, read
>>492948376
>Every post you dislike is not one person.
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>>492966902
nice final fantasy post, friend, as expected of the cult (true)
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>>492968035
>anon is unaware that he is a hypocrite
Attaching a Final Fantasy image to your post does not magically make it a Final Fantasy post.
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>>492967386
>concord threads: shitting on reddit, almost nobody talking about the game itself
>starfield threads: mixed sentiments, actual discussion on it being "skyrim in space"
>dustborn threads: one is simping, the other isn't shitting on it
Seems like /v/ isn't really hating wokeshit atm.
>>492967921
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/490597101/#490894038
>Ah yes, the regular troon who spent years shitposting yoshida didn't suddenly leave after every single one of his arguments were destroyed only to get immediately replaced by someone with the exact same mental illness and posting habits as him. He suddenly changed his ways and actually touched grass after years of doing the exact same thing every day like you're doing. You couldn't possibly be the same overopinionated histronic narcissist that literally wakes up to shitpost yoshida by proxy of videogames. You do your best to have a non-biased opinion even though it only happened after you were totally not outted for it, like the regular troon mentioned earlier who has a propensity to suddenly change his tactics immediately after his posting habits are laid bare.

>But if you really want to avoid those kinds of accusations in the future, perhaps you should talk about something else.
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>>492968170
>anon is unaware that he is a hypocrite
but enough about you kek
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>>492968426
The cult rarely brings their best, please understand
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>>492968170
You made him project AND samefag. Good job.
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>>492968170
He does that all the time. He'll make an off-topic post but think its on-topic because he attached a Final Fantasy image. On the flipside you can make an on-topic post and attach an image of say, Donald Trump, and he'll screech about it being off-topic.
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>complains about samefagging
>while she samefags
such many cases, another cult double standard, it almost reeks of french
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>>492966459
What's the difference? I haven't played DMC.
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>he just projected his tendency to project again
The next step he is going to take is to copy me and reach a new level of projection.
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>>492932859
The bestest
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>>492969632
In DMC you have style-switch lad, "spam the rev button" noob, and turboweebdemon all going through corridor stages killing demons. XVI doesn't have any of those three unless you count switching between Eikons as styles. XVI is also open world with the natures of the MSQ and sidequests somewhat making the game feel more linear than it is. Both are fun.
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>>492954580
>guy spends 5 years seething about a joke about Tidus
>spends 5 years trying to compile as much info on the Tidus poster as possible, but only gathers incorrect info, a complete waste of time
>the culmination of all this work is being immortalized on another Tidus joke
Pottery
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>>492940954
>the only thing that can be said of FFXV is it sold fast, something that was common in the PS4 generation for long running IPs
>7R beat it in awards so it doesn't even have that going for it
grim...
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>>492973427
what was the original tidus joke?
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>>492973427
>but only gathers incorrect info
proof?
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>>492977578
No one cares let's talk about something else
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>>492979142
i care...
but if want to jerk discussion away from my question, it's on you to come up with an interesting topic
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>>492979304
Your English is quite poor.
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>>492979870
This
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>>492922427
>LGBTQ+
>spectacle fighter
Fucking incredible
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>>492922427
im starting to think pc wont save it after all...
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>>492954580
It's missing one big quote at the end as the final strike of the ball is made
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Is XVI better than SoP?
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>>492987882
Nope, unfortunately.
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>>492953787
>Muh perfect dodge
It gets played out after you've done it 600 times
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>>492975048
and that xv is the highest rated overall among fans and that its the most successful ff
and that its the best selling one since it sold 10m over 2x faster than ff7 and 3x faster than ff10
and that it objectively won more awards than any ff
7r didn't win any ai programming awards, xv did, and xv won more for VAs too so overall it won more awards total than 7r
also if its so common why did 7R sell LESS than XV on ps4 despite releasing on a more than double the size ps4 installbase and 7r being the most demanded ff for 15 years?
xv also still has the best graphics and animation of any ff too
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>>492987882
No, but it's not better than a lot of things.
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Going Action RPG was the best decision Final Fantasy has ever made.
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>>492987730
true.
i missed it but only noticed sometime after posting it.
if i go back and add another quote, what should it be? i'll let you pick
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KH style action with ATB bars. It's not that hard. Not sure why they didn't figure that out in Versus XIII/XV and why Remake project still doesn't have a working jump button.
XVI action is almost there, but it's lacking the entirety of the RPG aspect that's required to make it work. And without ATB bars, the skill cooldowns basically neuters any kind of legitimacy the system might have.
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>>492991453
"looks like you made her mad" or a giant poem in french
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>>492992223
will do
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>>492991453
"Final fantasy?" would be a perfect ending
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Good morning /ffg/
XV Royal was the best Final Fantasy
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>>492992768
i already have that in there, although, i suppose i could switch the phrases around.
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>>492987882
Lol no
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Stillbirth and Shitstain killed the series
Bros, how do we save Final Fantasy XVII?
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>>492993997
Shitpost jacks game
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he's here...
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>He wo-ACK
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>VIIR-kun....forgive me
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cool
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>>492997395
You should be able to ask him how the legend began.
>That, I cannot tell you.
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what do we call him?
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>>492997790
NSP
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>>492997790
NSP
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>>492997790
Hobo
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>>492993997
Back to turn based rpg, like the series was fucking known for.
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>>492997790
Ryan
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>>492997790
N1ghtSky
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>>492997790
NSP
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>>492998345
>>492998390
>>492999396
>>492999907
?
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>>492999964
That works
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>>492999964
Perfect
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>>493000221
I don't get it
and it doesn't fit
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>>493000221
BASED
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>>492987882
'Fraid not
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This is fun. FF should go back to text-based experiences where players have more agency in their games. Like with a character creator, bad endings and romance options.
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>>492999964
This
>>493000221
?
>>493000668
Meh
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>>493001173
Dew it
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>>493001173
You have made the right choice
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>>492998345
>>492998390
>>492999396
>>492999907
>>492999964
>>493001003
>>493001173
Off-topic
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>>493002095
What on topic final fantasy discussion would you like to have?
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>>493002095
if want to jerk discussion away from my question, it's on you to come up with an interesting topic
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>>493002257
Concord is shutting down it's servers on September
https://x.com/PlayStation/status/1830999524938035554
https://x.com/Wario64/status/1830999912437395487
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>>493002521
lmao
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>>493002521
That is crazy. But it's also off topic. Want to try again?
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pure kino
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=aDZe6GxVUjs&si=YymnK7lJ9Wwk4IVf
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>>493002521
Even XVI wasn't this big of a failure.
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Has any proof been posted that XVI and Rebirth didn't at least break even? All I've ever seen is Square saying they sold less than they hoped.
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>>492989373
>and that xv is the highest rated overall among fans
several Final Fantasy games are rated higher on verified review platforms (Steam, PSN)
>and that its the best selling one
fastest selling, still not the best selling FF. That honour belongs to FF7.
>and that it objectively won more awards than any ff
7R has more awards than it, and chances are Rebirth might even top that.
>so overall it won more awards total than 7r
incorrect. 7R has more awards.
>why did 7R sell LESS than XV
Because XV was such a disappointment.
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>>493005568
XVI seemingly cost so much to make that the quarter it sold 3 million in wasn't enough to overcome them actually paying down what it took to make the game, and as a result it caused their operating income for all three divisions to absolutely tank.
Rebirth never got its own quarter, so the results are a lot murkier. It got lumped into the annual financial report, but that also included XVI since it was the financials for the entire year, which muddies the water a lot and makes it much more difficult to discern Rebirth's individual contribution to the losses. All we know is that their HD Games division lost money for the year, which includes XVI, Rebirth, and Foamstars.
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https://www.thegamer.com/final-fantasy-14-xiv-director-condemns-wuk-lamat-voice-actor-localizer-abuse/
Stop harassing Yoshida and his team
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>>493006512
Doesn't that include them the losses from cancelling a bunch of games? Or did that happen after the financial year? I don't think Rebirth would have cost as much as XVI due to Remake, I don't know how game development works though.
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>>493007005
>Or did that happen after the financial year
After
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>>493007005
Depends on when it happened, but that's a potential factor. Rebirth almost certainly cost less to make due to the fact that it only had a four year dev cycle as opposed to XVI's seven year cycle.
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>Has any proof been posted that XVI and Rebirth didn't at least break even?
No. There's no proof of anything. The best that the hate cult has managed to come up with is that if they read something Yoshida said in an interview one time about Final Fantasy games as a whole, they take it to mean that XVI cost over $100 million to make when he could just as easily have been talking about XV, and the only concrete numerical figure given for anything was ~$59 million, but even that statement is not actually connected to XVI. Actually, the only thing we know for sure is that XVI met its initial sales goal, which (if we apply the same logic that the hate cultists use) could mean that it already broke even, but we don't actually know anything and it's all guesswork.

>>493007005
>Doesn't that include them the losses from cancelling a bunch of games?
It includes the realized loss of Luminous Studios.
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>>493007450
>Seven.
Wtf how?
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>>493007556
>XVI's seven year cycle
The initial work was basically just outlining what the story and gameplay was going to be and floating ideas around to let them breathe. The actual development cycle didn't begin until sometime around 2019.
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>>493007524
>when he could just as easily have been talking about XV,
This is Barry tier cope.
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>>493007524
see
>>492931273
and picrel
It would be weird to keep bringing up the games budget if the budget was within the norm. Yoshida quite literally thanked the company for approving the budget for the game, indicating that the budget is not normal.
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>>493008342
No, anon. I'm only saying things that we actually know, and we don't know how much XVI cost, and we don't even necessarily know that it was over $100 million. No one has been able to provide any proof of their claim.
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>>493008596
You're coping because we do know
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>>492931273
>yoshitpiss said ff16 is the most expensive FF ever made
Your picture very distinctly does not say this.

>>493008578
>>493008909
>respect for Square Enix for approving this budget
This also does not actually say anything about what the budget is.

I will gladly "concede" the argument if you are able to provide any proof of anything at all, but so far you haven't been able to. I'm acting as a singular voice of reason in /ffg/, seemingly as the only person who is capable of reading things that are written, and as soon as you provide any proof of anything, I will happily "concede", but you seem to be unable to provide proof (currently, I'm sure as more interviews come out, the budget will eventually be revealed).
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FF7 Remake's budget is estimated to be 144 million dev costs. I can't see XVI getting more of a budget than the golden child desu.
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>>493007005
Yes. They downsized and restructured. Any project that was cancelled and assets tossed were calculated in the total losses (including more XV shit).
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ITT: frenchie pretends (without evidence) that an independent studio losing their independence cost the company hundreds of millions of dollars, while simultaneously dismissing all evidence pertaining to XVI’s budget and demanding definitive proof
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>>492961465

If you've watched Ashoka and the Mandalorian, you can only come to the conclusion that that magical Kingdom of Zeal is forever.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJpp-Uj3c64
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ITT: the Yoshida hate cult pretends, as per usual, that every single post they don't like belongs to "Frenchie"
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When should I use the first teleport sphere in X?
Should I move Kihmari to Auron's tree?
Or should I move Yuna to Lulu's tree
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>yoshida hate cult
Oh yeah, it’s frenchie time
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>>493009069
>>493009264
This anon is in full cope mode. He has nothing to back up his crying beyond mental gymnastics.
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>>493011306
You replied to 2 different people. The hate cult is eventually going to need to realize that there is more than one person here who is tired of their incessant shitposting.
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>>493011151
Move Yuna to Lulu's tree. Iirc, this also lets you get bigger healing spells earlier as well. Also, though, I've never really used Kimahri so I am a bit biased against him.
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>>493011151
Yuna to Lulu. Yuna becomes a better offensive spell caster than Lulu and ends up completely invalidating her.
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>>493011539
The hate cultists (singular) actually believes people forget the day prior. But they (he) projects all the time, so it is safe to assume they (he) have (has) fucking Alzheimer's.
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>>493012069
>fucking Alzheimer's
It's easier to believe this than it is to believe that the same small group of people would dedicate their entire lives for the past several years to shitposting about a guy whose games they have never and will never play.
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>>493011306
You're in big trouble now, Barry-kun. The very agreeable anons coincidentally logged in simultaneously to debunk you. Bad luck for you lmao.
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>>493012419
>The very agreeable anons coincidentally logged in simultaneously to debunk you.
You just didn't realize that you were already talking to more than one person. The regular posters in this thread don't have multiple phones or call for discord backup like the hate cultists do.
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>he’s in full damage control mode
But he really doesn’t like being called out
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>>493011661
Of all the shitposts on /ffg/ the one that bothers you is the guy calling out off topic dramafags.
I can't imagine why.
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>>493012950
>You just didn't realize that you were already talking to more than one person
Ironic. Can your friend back you up on that?
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>>493013476
What drives a man to spend 12 hours a day posting about /ffg/ drama instead of final fantasy? It can't be anything good if he's this upset about it being pointed out
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Rebirth and Remake are top 5 FF games.
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>>493012419
Someone felt called out by this post for some reason.
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>>493013857
2 people*
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>>493013654
I guess you're not interesting enough to become one of /ffg/s main characters.
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>>493012419
>The very agreeable anons
I was always disappointed you didn't commit to this breadcrumb trail.
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>>493014014
What are you talking about? My quote ended up right in the middle of the titus webm.
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>>493013951
2 very agreeable people*
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>>493014014
Au contraire, mon frère, "Frenchie" seems to be the hate cult's main antagonist. I know this, because that word gets posted probably dozens of times per thread, and rarely is it attributed accurately. I know this, because I've been called "Frenchie" maybe even more times than the real French guy has.

Frenchie has unironically reached Jimbo status in the /ffg/. I would say that Frenchie might even be more powerful than Jimbo, because there is only one person who gives a shit about Jimbo, whereas there are multiple people whose first reaction when they see a post they don't like is to scream "Frenchie!"
He is literally /ffg/'s Sephiroth.
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>>493013654
>he has posting habits
Yikes!
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>>493014639
I think you're right there
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>>493014639
I still don't know who either of them are or why we're meant to hate them. One says bad things about XVI, right? I didn't even know the other one was a real guy until I found out it was NSP.
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>>493014639
What Final Fantasy is Frenchie from?
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>>493015001
Every "you could be talking about Final Fantasy" or "you're obsessed with drama" post comes in twos now that you mention it.
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>>493014639
>He is literally /ffg/'s Sephiroth.
Hence picrel
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>>493015097
>/ffg/ is now such a shitposters paradise that it's a "red flag" if anyone tells you to post about final fantasy
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>>493015281
This is probably going to upset 1 or 2 people, but you're right.
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Who knew telling /ffg/ to post on topic would be the last straw for our most dedicated dramafags
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>>492993997
Based
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>>493015451
Jimbo (NSP?) ended up being the most sane ffg poster in the end.
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>*thinking about Final Fantasy games he's pla-*
>TZZCH
>*ominous Sephiroth theme plays*
Why...why can't I remember?!
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>>493015585
I mean if his only crime was saying the time jannies were bad but he enjoyed remake and rebirth regardless I don't know why someone has been mad at him for 5 years
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>NSP defense force activates
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>>493015585
Some people are pissed at him for criticizing remake in the first place, even though he came to like it more and more. And he was positive about XVI and rebirth. But someone is still angry at him for criticizing remake in the first place.
Admittedly, he can be annoying and a bit of a troll when he wants attention. But in terms of actual takes I can't think of anything he said that's worth getting pissed about. ESCPECIALLY not for FIVE YEARS.
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>>492922087
>NO BE
another ff bites the dust
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>>493015826
>people cannot leave their home state ever
?
Anyway there's just as much proof of either being true. Could be the same guy or someone else entirely. I don't think it matters to anyone aside from the schizo stalker who still hasn't explained why they're so obsessed in the first place.
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>>493015964
Did you know Tidus means sun?
Then we have Cloud and Squall (rain)
Jawdropping
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>>493016607
>Butz (butts)
>Terra / Celes (earth/sky)
>Cloud (cloud)
>Squall (storm)
>Zidane (headbutt)
>Tidus / Yuna (Sun/moon)
>Lightning (lightning)
>Noctis / Luna (night sky/moon)
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>>493015995
But do we know if Jimbo rated XVI a 7/10ish? This is critically important information.
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>>493016882
I think he did and it must have pissed someone here off a lot because they keep bringing it up.
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>>493016882
He did
>>493017130
Nice
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>>493016882
Wait, but 7/10ish is perfectly reasonable? That puts it in the "above average" range. Are shitposters really mad enough about a 7/10 to spend 12 hours a day stalking him?
There has to be more to the story.
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He. Won.
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>>493017251
>Are shitposters really mad enough about a 7/10 to spend 12 hours a day stalking him?
I'm not. As you said, that's personally reasonable.
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>>493017252
I hope we get this webm but with >>493017130 name
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>>493017652
Considering the current state of the FF community I can see that being seen as a bad thing
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>>493017252
I did. And it was very easy.
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>>493017251
Game ratings are typically rated on a different scale. Just look at Metacritic. The new Beetlejuice movie is sitting at a 63, which is in the green, while a game hits the yellow “mid” tier at 74 and below.
Not saying I agree with this, but that’s just how people see ratings nowadays.
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>>493002521
Will Concord's historic failure overshadow XVI's PC launch?
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>>493016607

Pretty sure it refers to the tides; and most of the names are references to the "water bringer" of Aquarius; thus part of the reason they're revered and are actually the guides to character for so many young people who've rejected Pisces and look to some other figures for moral guidance....

The funny part, of course, is that every single final fantasy revolves around Ragnarok.
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Post 100% proofs.
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>>493014639
>>493014942
>>493015585
>>493015826
>>493015930
More off-topic posts
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>>493017252
>>493017606
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>>493021123
Holy kek
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>>493021123
Kino
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>>493021123
BASED
>>493021045
cringe…
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>>493021123
>is that a normal ff7 conversation?
>not on my watch!
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>>493022329
there's a Smash Remix 64 mod of Cloud that came out. You gonna' try it?
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>>493022418
>playing smash in 2024
ISHYGDDT
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>>493022329
I've been posting FFX for hours. Scroll up
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>>493022541
Clive in Smash
Two weeks
Trust the plan
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Would anyone like this free pigger?
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>>493018986
No. XVI will remain as culturally irrelevant as ever and be forgotten again by October.
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Who's eye is it supposed to be looking in from the Aurora, officially from Square, do you suppose?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTJlTfk0ahg

>Always Free'ya or one of the Valkyrie, according to some.....
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>>493023880
DAMN EXPOSED AGAIN
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>>493023605

>Weapon core has pictures of tornados in the background; standard spell I use is tornado chain

How ironic.
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>>493023880
lol
Lmao even
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>>493023880
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
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>>493023880
Please understand. His "quintessential" spam from the previous thread didn't stick so he went back to his old and outdated spamming material
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I found some BE pictures from 2018 in a hard drive when we used to do these challenge kills in the thread
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>>493023880
My guess is he's making fun of that spammer. And considering the samefagging you're resorting to it looks like it's working
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>>493024656
And this was my whole roster shortly before I stopped playing I think
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>>493024656
>>492961465


At the end of season 2, currently; off towards the tower of aldore.

Much different than the tower of babylon; however, regardless of the intention of "The" Emperor.
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>>493023605
BE sprite auras never got as obnoxiously huge as Brave Frontier ones were, like some people insisted would eventually happen.
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>>493025060

I'm playing through, just so I won't miss what happened in a "final fantasy"; that some part of this is part of the "eternal cycles", which repeat, of samsara dosen't say much as the particulars are what manifests that which is, in the eternal manifestations of samsara, as even the same game of chess is never the same game of chess.
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>>493022329
>is that a normal ff7 conversation?
>not on my watch!
The name is "Enespee" not "Pawlee"
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>Ariana Grande
>Katy Perry
>Addison Rae
What do you mean they didn’t save BE???
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What's the total revenue of BE compared to the FFXV "A new empire" app?
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I don't think most of the people here play FF.
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>>493025861
It's cute that he pretends he wants to talk about FF instead of forcing everyone to endure namefag theatre every day.
When do we have a normal FF conversation at all? I admire the X poster for at least making an effort.
And I have to hand it to the gacha posters, they're better at talking about FF than the mainline posters.
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>>493026213
We appreciate you doing this, but its not necessary. He's been doing this for 5 years. Most of us just ignore him.
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>>493026213
I prefer to ignore and report when I see a thread celebrity
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Is ever crisis worth playing?
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>>493027576
Not at all. It's a reskin of Neir Re[in]carnation, which is to say that it's just an infinite grind game for the sake of infinite grind, but it has Final Fantasy VII characters and assets instead of unique Nier characters. There's no unique Nier story, there's no unique Nier music either (though the redone FFVII music is pretty good, you've heard it before), instead it's just the same Final Fantasy VII story you already know... except for the NPCs from the First Soldier battle royale mobile game which was canceled after 1 year, some of those characters are in Ever Crisis, they have a story you probably haven't heard before, and Glenn (from Ever Crisis, formerly from First Soldier) even makes his way into Rebirth. If you absolutely must know Glenn's gacha story, just watch videos. It's not worth playing.
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>>493028162
Thanks.
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>>493028162
>instead of unique Nier characters. There's no unique Nier story, there's no unique Nier music either
That sounds like a good thing.
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>>493026354
Granted FF1 is pretty easy to platinum.
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>>493028448
>That sounds like a good thing.
If you have a hate boner for Nier, sure. The fact remains that the Nier gacha was unique and had its own story and characters and music. This is not true of Ever Crisis. It's just the same music you've already heard, the same characters you already know, the same story you've already experienced, with the exception of the First Soldier characters. Ever Crisis offers nothing outside of that.
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>>493028761
>This is not true of Ever Crisis.
>with the exception of the First Soldier characters
Well then that proves that wrong doesn't it?
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>>493028882
One day you will figure out how to read and then you will be a lot less idly upset about things than you currently are.
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>>493027576
If you have already played FFVII... not really. They don't put in any twists and it's just the same old story again. What's the point?
>>493011661
>>493013654
>>493015001
>>493023880
>>493024139
>same deletion time
Well well well
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>>493029052
well ok then.
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Dang. Missed another meltie. Looks like it was a rerun anyway.
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>>493029151
now we can finally get back to discussing the 10/10 Final Fantasy XVI.
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>>493030402
Based!
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>>493028882
Yes and no. There is additional stuff, but not changes. The story is the same, but we see new characters in different scenes. Unlike in remake where it's all mixed together and some things play out differently and new and old characters interact.
>>493030051
It's funny how shitposting can flood the board all day but there's only one name that once uttered will guarantee swift action. I'm just glad I'm not the only nooticer around here.
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>>493030402
I really like the demo, and I am looking forward to the game.
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>>493030402
It's a shame the only places anyone has heard of gave it 9/10
>>493030583
When was the last time you posted about final fantasy? 2017?
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>>493030583
You need a hobby. Try playing the final fantasy games. Maybe you could discuss them here someday.
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>>493030735
9/10 is great too
it's all good
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>>493015097
The best thing about criminals
>>493030735
>>493030852
is that they're really stupid.
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>>492922087
what is even the point of this general
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>we can finally discuss ffxvi
>thread dies
kek
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>>493031972
to laugh at yoshidafags and gacha players
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>>493032060
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SEYMOUUUURRRR
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>>493031972
Fuck knows. It's clear most people here don't particularly play the games, XIII and X are the ones with the most actual game discussion from what I've seen.
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>>493030402
Always post the full image
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>>493032091
Based!
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>>493032029
FFXVI killed Final Fantasy and killed ffg.
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>>493032572
That's where you're wrong, bucko.
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'What's the point of a containment board', he says...
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Will we get Weiss and Deepground in part 3?
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>>493033313
hopefully not
they were super cringe in intermission
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Nayo > Tifa
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>>493033594
Nero and Weiss are really fun bosses.
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I unironically liked Dirge of Cerberus and want a remake.
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>>493033978
No chance, I'd like Advent Children to not be shit and piss on the game. Not happening either.
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>>493033704
Funny how Nomura was told to put a jacket on him because the original design was too gay.
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>>493034153
Is Nomura gay though? That's a real question.
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>>493033978
I unironically liked Crisis Core and got a remake.
Dirge sucks tho
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>>493032572
Sadly true
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>>493034368
No, in fact, he has good taste in women.
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>>493032572
The gachas first being evicted to /vmg/ and then dying is what killed /ffg/. Unironically, XVI (and XIV and Yoshida) account for most of /ffg/'s posts nowadays. The shitposters seem to be Yoshida's #1 fans and they keep /ffg/ alive just to shit on him, in a comedic twist of irony.

The only thing that will ever save /ffg/ is if SE releases a 3D FF gacha and it actually manages to be good.
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XVI pc release will breathe fresh air into the general, then Rebirth PC release will result in a golden age gameplay discussion, accurate and honest interpretations of scenes and collective agreement that Yuffie is best girl.
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soon
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>>493034670
All of these have something in common
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>>493034970
see >>493014639
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>>493035095
>remastered
Based
Switch 2
Trust the plan.
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>>493035043
Breathe of farts you mean, XVI flopping on PC will be the final nail in the coffin for all the cultists here. There will be no comeback after this.
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>>493034670
>>493035174
>bestgirls.webm
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>>493034670
That's awesome
>>493035043
I'm a little nervous that XVI and Rebirth might still be criticized even after they come to PC.
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>>493035043
I wish XVI was fun. It takes itself too seriously.
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>>493035428
I used to say Remake would get good posts after it came to PC but things didn't really change. Nonetheless I am confident we will see HONEST (strictly positive) posts about XVI and Rebirth once they come to PC.
AND broken sales records.
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>>493035428
XVI is going to sell twice what Stillbirth does (again)
and the hate cultists here will still do mental gymnastics to shitpost and say that XVI flopped.
Sad.
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>>493035517
Yeah, it's pretty 90's edgelord.
>>493035334
>>493035428
>>493035706
Organic.
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Is the XVI demo till mixed?
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>>493035379
Jill Warrick is the greatest heroine in the entire Final Fantasy series
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>>493035884
I'm glad you could agree but in a way that didn't sound critical
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>>493035889
I'm choosing to believe that somehow every negative review is coming from one person. I don't care if that's not possible. I need to believe it.
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>>492998954
Turn based games don't sell anymore. Nobody buys them.
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>>493036040
k that made me laugh, you're still a wretched samefag autist and should follow picrel
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>>493035945
but she is not even playable
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>>493035095
Claire... Save us...
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>>493034372
>Dirge sucks tho
well your gay
how about that!?
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Dirge is shit though, best thing is it laid the foundations for the Yuffie we all know and love from Remake/Rebirth. Or is that Crisis Core? Dirge came first right?
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>>493035706
Barrys will say it sucks but Frenchies will say it's KINO so it balances out.
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>>493036564
Its both.
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>>493035095
no thanks, unless it's the trilogy
and even then just so I can play 13-2 only
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>>493036316

She is in FFBE!
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>>493035760
>>493035945
Very true
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It truly is remarkable how very little Rebirth's sales get shitposted around here. It's fucking Final Fantasy VII and it sold less than XVI, which the loudest people here clearly hate. It would be so easy to say something like:
>"XVI is dogshit made by a hack, and even it sold better than Stillbirth LMAO!!!"
and yet (to everyone's genuine surprise) that never happens. I wonder why that is?
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>>493036424
>well your gay
...my gay what?
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>>493036869
FFBE > XVI
Confirmed.
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Almost like pretty much everyone who has played Rebirth agrees that it's something special.
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>>493037276
special ed maybe
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>>493037276
Yeah, it takes a lot of skill to botch something that surefire.
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>>493037276
seething roasties in the replies
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>>493037115
because VIIRgins are the shitposters
XVI Chads have class.
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>>493037276
It's certainly something special to be able to take one of the most iconic RPGs in video game history and then insert something into it which literally no one asked for and that literally no one likes, causing it to ultimately sell worse than the most divisive Final Fantasy game that has ever released.
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>>493037115
>Sold less
Prove it
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It's always in twos.
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>>493037813
your new cope is to just ignore reality?
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>xvi mogged by bg3
>xvi mogged by monkey game
COMING SOON
>xvi mogged by god of war
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>>493038014
BASED
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>>493038014
3 different BTFOS
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>THIS IS NOT THE GAME I ADORE!!!
>THIS IS... I MUST SAMEFAG MORE!!!
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SE could be making Star Rail money right now
But I guess a FF7 battle royale that EOSes after 3 months was a much better investment.
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>>493038014
Kek. Imagine if something managed to sell less than FFXVI. That would be embarrassing LMAO!
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>>493038235
As misguided as The First Soldier was, even it managed to last longer than Concord.
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>>493038209
Most of the NSP lols come from his hyping up of XVI
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>>493038315
yeah that would be pretty embarassing
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>>493037825
If he were a true 16fag it'd be in 3s like the 3mil sales haha :^).
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It's not a sprint, it's a marathon.
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>>493038402
He brought it all on himself when he started shitposting here
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>>493038402
Red is a handsome catdog.
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>>493038009
I'm asking for the actual sales numbers, not an article.

Prove that Rebirth sold less than XVI worldwide and I will accept defeat.
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You can practically smell the desperation from the XVI shills.
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>>493038014
Kratos... my fuaking hero!
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>>493038562
Here's the new one.
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So many different people suddenly showed up
>>493038562
This is genuinely heartwarming to see, but not surprising. A legacy title like Rebirth was always going to sell consistently for months (and years) to come. Anyone calling it a flop after a week is a retard.
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Clear falseflagging going on here trying to portray XVI and Rebirth fans as enemies, not going to work.
>>493038776
Wow, Rebirth didn't sell a single copy in a month.
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>>493038776
>rebirth didnt sell EVEN ONE SINGLE new copy
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>>493038928
True. We've always been allies.
Good game recognizes good game.
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>>493038625
I'm glad to see this one return
>>493038776
MK8 will only stop selling once every person in Japan owns a copy.
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>>493038562
>>493038776
>339,168
>1 month later
>still 339,168
Quick we need more positive word of mouth!
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>>493039143
>Quick we need more positive word of mouth!
Um uhh
My friend never played the original FF7 but he said he LOVED remake, understood it, and can't wait to see where the story goes
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>>493038776
PS5 is dead in Japan Jesus Christ.
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>>493039338
Just bought 10 copies thanks
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>>493039373
not only dead but its getting a price increase to make up for the lack of ps5's being sold lol
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Weird how you have all these XVI and Rebirth doom post images saved.
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>>493038539
>such a good boy
Lucky for you he's a dog lover.
http://web.archive.org/web/2022006000159/http://twitter.com/JayBooze3/status/1490112226384033945
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>>493038562
>it's a marathon
does redditbirth know this? because it just gave up around the halfway point >>493038776 kek
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>Fucking schizo.
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>>492929327
Dawntrail was still better than FFXVI. At least once you’re done with that slog you have the endgame to look forward to. You slog through XVI and that’s it.
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>>493038562
>>493038776
Samefag shitposter.
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>>493040337
You really slithered back that far in the thread just to shitpost?
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>>493040681
I'm one of those things, but I do have standards.
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>>493038968
>>493039143
Actually that's the PS5's fault. PC will save it just like it always does unless PC vegans don't buy games and they have potatoes.
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>>493038209
uh oh now you've done it
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>>493041147
I still don't know what he did to make him decide to spend the rest of his life obsessed. It must have been pretty bad.
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Is it really okay to make fun of 7R's sales when they're about to give away FF16 for free soon?
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The original script of Final Fantasy VII, written by Sakaguchi, was rather different from the finished product. Tetsuya Nomura has recalled how Sakaguchi "wanted to do something like a detective story." The first part of the story involved a "hot blooded" character named "Detective Joe" who spends 5 years on a case before realising all the evidence he gathered was wrong.
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>>493041371
>It must have been pretty bad.
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>>493041427
I seem to have noticed a lack of 4k screenshots of XIII and XVI lately. My detective senses are tingling.
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>>493041860
Hey buddy, I posted X this afternoon
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>4K screenshots of XIII
don't mind if I do
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>>493041860
>someone was angry enough at an ff post that they "traced mannerisms" to a porn site
??? What kind of schizophrenic nonsense is this
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>>493042169
That kind of shit is what made this site so fun back in the day.
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>>493042150
BASED
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>>493042169
Detective Joe is on the case! And several forms of medication.
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>>493042324
lmao
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>>493042169
Look, buddy, if you think maybe the Whispers in Final Fantasy VII Remake were a little bit silly and unnecessary, then you've got a few screw loose yourself. We love pointless multiverse smoke and mirrors here.
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>>493042547
FF was ALWAYS kingdom hearts!
Anyway here's my 12 hour lore breakdown video explaining how the seven alternate dimensions in FFVIIR work.
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Aerith 1 and Cloud 1 from the Beagle universe.
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>>493042801
Are they gonna make it?
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>>493042901
One of the is.
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>>493042901
With help from Zack (terrier universe) maybe
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FF16 is the Concord of Final Fantasy.
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>>493043201
that would XIV 1.0
FF16 is the forspoken of final fantasy
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I'm thinking of getting 1 through 6, then I've got every good FF game. Obviously I'll pre-order Rebirth.
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>>493041379
>It would require a deep price cut
It seems Takashi Mochizuki was right all along...
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>>493042901
They are going to band together to summon Tidus from FFX where they will then go back in time to kill the time jannies where they began, thus saving Rebirth's sales figures in the present. After this, the ending credits will roll and Nomura will once again copy Nier Automata, allowing you to use the names of various pro-VIIR posters from various internet websites (including 4chan's named posters) to defeat the final darkness plaguing the original timeline where Rebirth sold worse than XVI.

The final boss? Naoki Yoshida.
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>>493042621

>"Multiverse"

Such a funny term for everything in eternity; one wonders where the lines even are, since they're apparently nothing more than a fabrication by those who think these see certain forms of repetition in certain areas, that don't exist in other areas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8lgwTuNRb8
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Pure comedy
>>493026213
>BTFO'd too
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Final Kino XIII
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FF16 is the Thief and the Cobbler of Final Fantasy.
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>>493044179
That would be XV.
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>>493043881
Final because it killed the brand by being so bad
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>>493043714
That would be peak tbqh senpai
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>>493044179
>>493044250
>Thief and the Cobbler of Final Fantasy
Yeah, that's definitely XV. Not even a contest.
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A ribbon not protecting against zombification is bullshit.
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>>493043715
I don't think it's fair to criticize 7R for having multiverse content because at no point in the games do they say the word multiverse. Maybe that sounds stupid but it's genuinely how I feel.
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>>493045152
>FFX and FFVII take place in the same universe
We've known this for over 20 years
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https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Oversoul_(Final_Fantasy_X-2)
FFX and FFVII take place in the same universe, even in XIV
I forgot the picture.
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>>493044841
>criticize 7R
That's not allowed here.
7R is a faithful remake, and even if it isn't, that's a good thing.
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>>493044841
>>493045891
So we like multiverses as long as specifically the word "multiverse" is not used to describe them?
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>>493046095
As long as Yoshida doesn't do it, yes, that's accurate.
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>>493029151
>>same deletion time
It keeps happening! The archive page is very revealing right now.
>>493045587
>>493046040
Lord help me I think the Vanille posting is going to make me play XIII again. She's a perfect mix of hot and cute.
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>>493046327
Oh right, yes. I do remember getting that memo. I just didn't realize how universally that rule applied. I'll do better next time.
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>>493046557
It's time, anon. Vanille is waiting.
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>>493046327
>As long as Yoshida doesn't do it, yes, that's accurate.
Now say that again without crying
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>>493046557
>She's a perfect mix of hot and cute.
Vanille is, by far, the ugliest girl in XIII.
Hell, even Sazh is cuter.
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>>493047198
>>493047446

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRCBJhjRqPM

How funny it is; that the reign of generations of Kings and the very creation of the Ring of the Lucii was for the birth of Noctis..... and that when faced with a choice, Regis chose a choice that when made had him state..... "May the Gods forgive him".....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNM6o9um1dc

What do you suppose he meant by that?
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>>493048063

>Throwing moogles to find treasure

Talk about the stuff of nightmares..... I can't believe they did that.....
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>>493048578
Luminous' writing team wasn't sending their best.
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Vanille is a super model tier goddess and a saint, whose radiance and grace extends far, far beyond a normal life time.
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>>493049964

>Can cannonically cast "Death" on Barthamulus and Orphan, killing it instantly

What do you suppose the meaning of that is, in regards to the plans of Barthalamus, and given the significance of Coccon and "Orphan's Cradle" relative to Gran Pulse and the subsequent turning of the peoples of Coccon from the magics of the lissie to "sciences"?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gxz98n4Rpo
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>>493050314
Another oversight from the XIII development team
Many such cases.
Sadly a very flawed product.
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>>493050314
You're that same guy who can't manage to spell "Barthandelus", aren't you?
Your sentences are a bit of a word salad, friend.
>What do you suppose the meaning of that is?
Vanille holds in her hands the fate of the world. It makes thematic sense that she is the only character who can cast Death, as in the ending, the literal Goddess of Death Etro herself graces Vanille with incredible power
>Lissie
l'Cie, it comes from luci, light
I don't think the people were turned away from "the magics". They were freed from the shackles of the Fal'cie.
In XIII, magic returns back to the land/nature. And so people can use it freely if they are simply capable enough, without the need of a curse. Play XIII-2 to learn more
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>>493050516
>Hasn't played the game
>Can't discuss the story or themes
>Shitposts about it anyway
How curious
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>>493048578
Maybe they (and ardyn) chose him because they knew he was never going to get laid from the start.
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>>493051331

>You're that same guy who can't manage to spell "Barthandelus", aren't you?

Many such cases

>Vanille holds in her hands the fate of the world. It makes thematic sense that she is the only character who can cast Death, as in the ending, the literal Goddess of Death Etro herself graces Vanille with incredible power

Rather funny, that it's Sasz, who struggle to be with his child and a good father that drives her even further away from wanting "Ragnarok" to occur, deciding to save coccon, while at the same time Fang nearly embraces this path, and nearly kills everyone on that world.... quite the question as to whom is whom then.

>l'Cie, it comes from luci, light
I was under the impression the term came from the term I see, as in from Isee the Japanese deity and discriptor for many types of Kais

In XIII the only magics utilizable by the people were from the brands issued by the l'Cie, at least as was largely known, as no exceptions were mentioned; but more specifically sorcery is known and utilizable, it's only that through the L'Cie did the people of coccon know how to learn to utilize it; there are other means and methods; just they seem to be unknown to both the peoples of both coccon and grand pulse.

Regardless; it seems that Lightning managed, by virtue of being an Orphan, to hijack the plans of Barthandelus, and take the place of the nascent being named "Orphan", and place herself into the path of being chosen by prophecy, instead of it; though the exact purpose and scope of "Orphan" that was intended, aside from gathering the attention of "the creator" of coccon, is something of a mystery, if anyone has any additional information, or theories, regarding such; I'd love to hear it.
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>>493036154
Baldur's Gate 3 says otherwise.
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>>493036154
>What is Mario RPG remake
cute yoshitpiss newfag
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>queue for a random trial in XIV before I log off and play some BG3
>get this
The universe does have a sense of humor.
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>>493051331
From the XIII-2 datalog:
>The sphere's fall was halted by Lightning's companions, Fang and Vanille. Their desperate sacrifice summoned a massive pillar that cradled the plummeting Cocoon in its crystalline branches
Threadly reminder, that a massive pillar of water in the final CGI in XIII was made by Etro.

>cradled Cocoon
She's a keeper. She's a mama.
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>>493054152

Just started playing XIII-2.
So tempted to get the Lightning DLC for the play through; but I hear it changes everything for the entire play-through if you do.
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>>493052801
>L'cie
ルシ, "ru-shi", literally latin Luci, Light. As far as I'm not aware "Isee" is a Japanese word.
>Sasz
Sahz and Dajh certainly did make Vanille's "destiny" all the more unpalatable for her which is a part of why she is so bubbly and kind toward him. She's trying to cover up the tremendous pain she feels about so many people's destinies being tied to her actions. She doesn't know what to do or how.

The party as a group all decides that even though it doesn't seem like they have a way out, they have to fight no matter what. It's not Vanille's singular decision. Fang was willing to do anything, even to try and shatter Cocoon by herself, just to keep Vanille from bearing that burden again.

Death is not necessarily something bad, it's something Etro essentially "gifts" at the end of life. She is the "compassionate" Goddess in XIII, as she is essentially the "Light" at the end of the tunnel of death. She goes on to bestow great power unto L'cie and the Heroines of Light for their own unique purposes. Fang is Vanille's charge, her shield. The story veers out into some wild mythology in XIII-2 datalogs and Lightning Returns.

>the only magics utilizable by the people were from the brands issued by the l'Cie

Final Fantasy XIII-2 datalog:

>"'Magic' is the ability to draw on the crystal power residing within oneself and make possible all manner of incredible feats. This power was once only the province of l'Cie, but since the catastrophe and the migration to Pulse, some former citizens of Cocoon have suddenly developed the ability to wield magic. Serah is one of those people.

>Many of those who now command magical energies are simple civilians, and have never had Serah's experience of once being a l'Cie. It is theorized that the move to Gran Pulse has awoken these abilities, and people are beginning to see magic as just another tool in their everyday lives. Noel is also capable of casting spells, but doesn't seem to think of himself as anything special."
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>>493055582
if you're playing on PC as far as I'm aware you have to complete the game first before you can access the DLC
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>>493054152
>massive pillar of water
Was the crystal pillar not made up of the crystal sand from Oerba? And elsewhere all across Cocoon? It didn't look like water, it looked like the crystal dust.
The same crystal dust that is made of the human souls that perished on Cocoon. All of old humanities crystalized remains, shattered and scattered to the wind, and covering an entire forest and mountain range's worth of land
It seemed to me that this was the source of the crystal pillar.
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who do you choose?
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>>493052801
There're many statements. Some of them don't make any sense at all. I'll just adress couple of them:
>Lightning managed, by virtue of being an Orphan
Being an orphan is not relevant for the plot superpower or even "virtue", as you say, being an orphan is a thematic aspect that relates characters to the thematic core of the story. 4 MCs in the group are orphans, not just Lightning.
>by virtue of being an Orphan, to hijack the plans of Barthandelus
Bartandelus' plans were “hijacked” almost from the beginning of the story. Anon, not even from the beginning of the game's story, but from the beginning of XIII's story including prequel novels and the FNC myth in general. To understand why this is so, one must recall Lindzei and what and when this deity promised to Barthandelus. Barty is literally fated not to get what he wants.

>and take the place of the nascent being named "Orphan"
Orphan is the main power source to fal'Cie Eden, enabling it to siphon power to keep Cocoon afloat. It's a battery. Claire doesn't become a battery at the end of the story. She doesn't even roughly resemble a battery, no no no. Muse and Rose — yes, battery — no :D

>the exact purpose and scope of "Orphan" that was intended, aside from gathering the attention of "the creator" of coccon, is something of a mystery
Orphan is the central and only battery of Cocoon. If this battery is broken, then at once a great number of people will die because Cocoon will fall, hence a great number of crystals (souls) will fly out of their bodies and these crystals will open Etro's Gate as wide as possible. The only problem is that the Maker, whoever it is, is not behind Etro's Gate.
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>>493058005
I don't see Quistis in that image
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XIII Trilogy Remaster will save Final Fantasy after XVI killed it.
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>>493058376
but there's only one good game in that package
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>>493058005
Lightning-sama will bear many healthy children for me
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I need a ranking of the DS games, please and thank You!
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>>493055992

You can download immediately if you play on Xbox one.
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>>493059746
Nice. The Xbox version is certainly definitive for physical release
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>>493056392
The sequence is as follows:
1) Fang and Vanille are trying to slow down the descent of Cocoon.
2) Some sort of liquid(?) rises up from Gran Pulse.
3) This liquid(?) envelops Cocoon (sounds are like it's liquid).
4) Crystallisation occurs as Fang and Vanille complete Focus.
5) Crystal dust arrives and further solidifies Cocoon's structure.

Whatever it is, liquid or not, the point is that mom is a keeper.
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>>493060292
It's all true
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>>493058005
"J'ai une telle conscience de ton
être, rose complète,
que mon consentement te confond
avec mon cœur en fête.

Je te respire comme si tu étais,
rose, toute la vie,
et je me sens l'ami parfait
d'une telle amie."
_____________
"I have such consciousness of your
being, rose entire,
that my assent confounds you
with my heart in celebration.

I breathe you in, as if you were,
rose, all of life,
and feel myself the perfect friend
of such a friend."
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>>493058205

Barthandelus is literally utilizing prophecy of Ragnarok to attempt to summon the creator of Coccon and Grand Pulse; there's every reason to think that the spelling of lightning being an "Orphan" is relevant to her subsequently and immediately being elevated to the status of Goddess; that she is literally elevated to Goddess, instead of being a messenger or servant of another deity, is, in and of itself, a signal of the importance she played in the event in question; and a question as to whether she "hijacked" prophecy, from the perspective of the followers of Bartandelus, or whether she is the manifestation of prophecy for the worlds of coccon and gran pluse; no less than Noctis is for Eos; something hinted at by XV originally being titled "vs XIII".

>Orphan is a battery
More like a transducer; allowing energy to be channeled somehow, as there is no evidence of hint that Orphan is somehow being slowly drained of energy reserves by coccon; in fact, there's no reason to suspect that aside from the dissatisfaction, and desire to move towards other things, to put it mildly, of Barthandelus, that Coccon couldn't continue to function and serve as a paradise for all the peoples living there for thousands of more years.

Yet, the fact of the matter, is that Anima first choose Sarah; upon which she had her bring Lightning to the Ruins. That "Anima" choose them, the Orphans, is evidence in and of itself that prophecy was being taken into account.
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>>493059414
TWEWY > IV 3D > III 3D > Crystal Chronicles Ring of Fates > Bravely Default > Crystal Chronicles Echoes of Time > XII Revenant Wings
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>>493061269
You forgot
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>>493060931
What prophecy are you talking about? This one?
>The sleeping l'Cie will be revived
>after a long time has passed.
>Ragnarok will awaken once again and
>Cocoon will fall from the heavens.
Or some other one? Post the prophecy.
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>>493063157

The prophecy of Ragnarok destroying Coccon that Barthandelus Fang and Vanille constantly mention.
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>>493061269
>TWEWY
If it's so good then why did Neo Twewy flop harder than Rebirth?
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>>493063647
Lightning specifically doesn't have that much to do with the prophecy
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>>493064356
Just one more Nomura L among many
Very sad.
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>>493064356
I'm not that guy, but TWEWY was really fucking cool when it first came out. It was completely unique with regards to its gameplay, and the story and its concept were brand new to me even if it's basically just Gantz, as I found out later. I don't know what Neo TWEWY was about, I didn't play it, but I had no interest in playing it. That sort of "vibe" went out of style at least like a decade ago, plus I saw it got hit with trannylation problems. It just looks like one of those Naruto clash games to me. Maybe there's something else going on, and maybe I'm not giving it enough credit, but that's my take as someone who enjoyed TWEWY and was not interested in Neo.

As far as my list, I'd probably do like:
> IV 3D > TWEWY > Bravely Default > III 3D
I haven't played Revenant Wings or the CC DS game
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>>493063647
So this one then:
>The sleeping l'Cie will be revived
>after a long time has passed.
>Ragnarok will awaken once again and
>Cocoon will fall from the heavens.
All of these events happened. This is the only absolute prophecy in the game, called Etro's Prophecy in Ultimania, cause these are Etro's words. The Goddess (Etro) is not saying about "destruction" here, as you see. And Claire plays no part in this prophecy. It is entirely dedicated to Fang and Vanille.

>>493060931
>Barthandelus is literally utilizing prophecy of Ragnarok to attempt to summon the creator of Coccon and Grand Pulse
There's no Maker behind Etro's Gate. This is just fact. Whatever he's utilising, he's fucked up from the beginning of the story. His interpretation and plans are based on false premise that behind Etro's Gate daddy is waiting for him and other Fal'Cie. Nobody's waiting lol.

>she is literally elevated to Goddess, instead of being a messenger or servant of another deity
She's Etro's servant and defender of her legacy in XIII-2. She's referred as "warrior-goddess", yet she's still a servant, valkyrie-tier being. And she's quite literally Bhunivelze's servant in LR. Bhunivelze wants her to become the Goddess of Death at the end of LR. Why? Because she's not the Goddess of Death.
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At the end of the day XVI (16) is still a bad game
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>>493072826
at sucking.
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>>493042169
Jimjam uses the same usernames/shitposts/pastas/phrases on multiple accounts across multiple sites because he thought he was slink, thinking everyone's confined to their own section of the internet and wouldn't notice a pattern of behavior (because he's a narcissistic retard).
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I'm realizing that Dawntrail is just Seekers of Adoulin but written extremely poorly.
Why in the world would they do this?
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"Tes pas, enfants de mon silence,
Saintement, lentement placés,
Vers le lit de ma vigilance
Procèdent muets et glacés.

Personne pure, ombre divine,
Qu'ils sont doux, tes pas retenus!
Dieux! . . .tous les dons que je devine
Viennent à moi sur ces pieds nus!

Si, de tes lèvres avancées,
Tu prépares pour l'apaiser,
À l'habitant de mes pensées
La nourriture d'un baiser,

Ne hâte pas cet acte tendre,
Douceur d'être et de n'être pas,
Car j'ai vécu de vous attendre,
Et mon coeur n'était que vos pas."
___________________________
"Your footsteps, children of my silence,
With gradual and saintly pace
Towards the bed of my -watchfulness,
Muted and frozen, approach.

Pure one, divine shadow,
How gentle are your cautious steps!
Gods!... all the gifts that I can guess
Come to me on those naked feet!

If, with your lips advancing,
You are preparing to appease
The inhabitant of my thoughts
With the sustenance of a kiss,

Do not hasten the tender act,
Bliss of being and not being,
For I have lived on waiting for you,
And my heart was only your footsteps."
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Oh wow zero discussion happening tonight eh?
Where are all our Final Fantasians this eve?
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>>493080139
in my pants haha
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>>493080139
I'm playing XIV
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Mama mia...
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>>493080139
Playing XV
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>>493080139
Playing XI!
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>>493080139
Playing BG3
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>>493059414
>>493061269
>No TA2
How dare you
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>>493082705
Yjk
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what am I in for?
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>>493083010
Never played it. Looks great though.
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>>493083257
Kino, especially the alternate ending
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Aerith is alive and healthy.
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Final Fantasy is dead and buried.
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>>493083847
Maybe people don't actually like Final Fantasy VII as much as the online discussion, fueled by its most avid fans who have been having these conversations for 20 years, would have you believe.
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>>493083847
>>493083942
I enjoyed VII Rebirth but I liked XVI even more.
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"My love is like a red red rose
That’s newly sprung in June:
My love is like the melodie
That’s sweetly play’d in tune."
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>>493068212

Funny how that prophecy applies to both XIII and XIII-2, and that there's multiple interpretations of every verse.

Also Goddess can refer to lower level planatary protector's like Kami/Picollo, who are under "King Kai". Literally designated to rule over an entire planet, yet still at a power tier significantly below creating the billions of stars that makeup an entire single galaxy.
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>>493085726

The future sight of Altissia?
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>>493061269
wasn't Ecoes of time better than Rings of Fate? which one came out in 2009?
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>>493088445
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>>493088445
Stay mad
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>>493089608
meant for >>493088729
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>>493074856
It would take one very dedicated and obsessed retard to track those mannerisms in the first place. But he must have done something really bad to make someone angry enough to do that. It has to be something personal because I refuse to believe anyone is angry enough about him giving XVI a "7/10ish" to try track down every account of his, comb through every deleted tweet, post where he lives, etc. What did he do to justify the stalkers obsession?
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>>493093343
>I refuse to believe anyone is angry enough about him giving XVI a "7/10ish" to try track down every account of his
You underestimate Yoshida cultists
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>>493093770
I don't want to say you're right but nobody else has explained how this obsessed stalker lost their mind despite them acting like everyone knows all the details of this cringe crusade of his. So yeah it's either some hyper defensive fanboy or there's some other personal reason for their fixation.
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>>493093770
>I refuse to believe anyone is angry enough about him giving XVI a "7/10ish" to try track down every account of his, comb through every deleted tweet, post where he lives, etc. What did he do to justify the stalkers obsession?
>You underestimate Yoshida cult
The obsession began when he made a Reddit post making fun of people who ate up the Whispers in Remake. This has been going on for 5 years, much like Cloud was experimented on for 5 years. It has nothing to do with XVI. The person who is obsessed with Yojimbo is a VIIRgin and likely shits on XVI.

Personally, I hope it's just a schizo Cloud larp for funzies.
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>>493094447
But the internet is rife with people who made fun of the whispers. What made someone hyperfocus on this guy? And why drag some reddit drama here?
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>>493094639
No one knows. He probably doesn't even know. Ardent Final Fantasy VII fans do not have a good track record regarding sanity.
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>>493094723
I don't think I've ever stayed mad at a post online for more than an hour or two, and even that's an extremely rare situation.
5 years (and counting) is... bleak.
It's no wonder he (and his backpatting samefags) never mention the origin of this, as it immediately makes him look like a mindbroken retard. Making fun of the whispers is not something worth being THIS mad about.
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>>493095207
I still think something must have happened along the way that the schizo stalker took super personally. Nobody tries to dox someone and combs the whole internet for any account they can tie to someone just for not liking the whispers.
But then again... FFVII fans...
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>>493095207
>Probably up to the point where you fight the darkness in Cloud's heart with the help of Goofy and Simba as LEGO characters in Andy's room.
The stuff said is also, like, so ridiculous that you can't help but smile a little bit, even if you liked Remake (while liking Rebirth a little bit more). Apparently it really struck a nerve with someone though.
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>>493095207
>5 years (and counting) is... bleak.
Remake only came out 4 years ago tho?
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>>493095463
Well 4 years it is then. But soon... it will be 5.
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>>493095463
Oh, well that's okay then. 4 years isn't so bad.
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>>493095416
That's the other thing. The comments are so clearly exaggerated that you'd have to be severely autistic to take them seriously.
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>>493095673
Legend has it that he got so upset when the first lines of Remake weren't identical to the OG that he shot his TV with a gun.
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>>493095782
now THAT'S autism
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>>493095782
It takes a very special kind of detective to hear something like that and to write it down in his notepad labelled "INDISPUTABLE FACTS"
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>>493095951
KEK
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>>493005638
xv is rated higher overall across the board avg

it is objectively the best selling because it sold the most in the least amount of time

xv has more awards, 7r didn't win any programming or va awards like xv

>claims 7r won more awards yet somehow that isn't enough to make it sell better than xv

7r flopped
7r2 flopped

xv is the highest rating, best and fastest selling FF and most successful FF

hell even on spotify xv has the #1 most played music track, not 7 or 7r

7r was such a disappointment that 7r2 is the lowest fucking selling AAA FF in history
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>>493095873
>you'd have to be severely autistic to take them seriously
C'mon Anon.
>>493096016
Thank you for reminding everyone that things like awards actually mean very little to real people.
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>>493096120
The irony is lost on you lol.
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>>493095873
No one actually believe that someone would shoot their TV due to the first lines of Remake being different than OG. Well... maybe one person does, but he's just built different.
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>>493096185
I heard you the first time, settle down kek.
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>>493007524
no it doesn't
Luminous Productions didn't incur any financial losses to SE, the staff literally got promoted and aramaki is currently head of the new engine division that they started right after Luminous staff were merged back as SE, any forspoken financial were in fy2023

XVI flopping caused the oi to drop, nothing else

xvi is the most expensive FF ever made and it literally didn't profit from the revenue made from its 3m shipped
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>>493096283
I only replied to your post once.
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>>493009069
It factually does say that, not my problem you're illiterate.
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>>493096796
yoshitpiss really put out a ff that has 1 button do every possible action
no wonder xvi flopped
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>"your game flopped and shitted!"
>"no u your game flopped and shitted harder!"
>"your game lost 1 billion dollars"
>"no u your game lost 2 billion dollars"
The same dumbass arguments every single day
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Vanille...
...won :D
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>>493097281
The only thing that can save /ffg/ is a 3D FF gacha.
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>>493097281
Why can't people talk about the pros and cons of the games themselves? I literally do not give a shit if a game I like or dislike made or lost a billion dollars because I'm not a shareholder. I want to talk about what worked or what didn't in the games and hear what others have to say about them.
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>>493097558
>is a 3D FF gacha.
Yeah anon, Mobius, DFFOO, First Soldier, Ever Crisis and WotV REALLY saved it
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>>493097281
>Cloud reaction image with an IMG_XXXX filename
Your low quality posts aren't helping shitposter-kun
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>>493097540
She has become too powerful
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>>493097223

Very common when level disparity reaches a certain point in RPGs; I'm not sure what the point of that is. Either power level can increase throughout the game; at which point certain monsters literally become an inconvenience for you to brush aside; or it doesn't, and the character, in terms of abilities, is the same at the end as at the beginning.

Ultimately, one of the questions in FXV is the relationship between the "holy" of the Ring of the Lucii and the Gods of the Hexatheon of Eos; and whether there are other deities of that world other than those 6.
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>>493098234
>>493098234
True and real!
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https://x.com/RealHypnotic1/status/1830646025901535236
I love essays like this. It just goes to show how much of a tourist they are that never played the 1st disc. No one tell these alt-right grifters what a parable, allegory or metaphor is
>inb4 "disc 2"
Does Disc 2 erase the environmentalist and anti-capitalist message of the 1st disc?
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>>493097223
ff16 really is the most casual dogshit "ff"
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>>493096016
>xv is rated higher overall across the board
Nope, Royal/Windows edition which contains everything except Ardyn DLC is still rated lower than several FFs.
>it is objectively the best selling
Nope, it is the fastest selling. The best selling is FF7 as that has sold the most units total.
>xv has more awards
Going by the pictures you always send, FF15 has 41 GOTY awards and FF7R has 47 GOTY awards.
>7r didn't win any programming or va awards like xv
So that's 2 extra non-GOTY awards when we can give it. FF7R still has more. Are you going to send context for what these awards are at all?
>hell even on spotify xv has the #1 most played music track
Really scraping the bottom of the barrel, huh?
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https://www.gematsu.com/2024/09/square-enix-announces-tgs-2024-lineup-schedule
No mention of Rebirth on PC, it's actually over.
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Vanille is an allegory to...uh-oh...something deep and profound...
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>>493100280
XV is objectively rated higher, the dlc isn't counted as royal, they are literally seperate and predate royal
ardyn dlc alone mogs xvi lmao

nope
ff7 is the HIGHEST selling
the best selling is XV because it sold more in less time, best selling is fastest selling you retard

xv has more awards not in that image which extend beyond goty
7r has less
7r sold less
XV has multiple VA awards
7r has none
XV is the most popular FF on the biggest music platform of this generation, you're the one coping because you're seething 7R sold less than xv despite having nearly identical amount of awards
xv still has more awards than 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16 too
cope

xv sold better in less time
xv has higher avg rating overall across the board
xv is the most successful FF

cope
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>>493101680
based
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Isn't XVI the fastest selling FF ever?
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>>493102606
*fastest shipping
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>>493101680
>XV is objectively rated higher
Nope.
>the dlc isn't counted as royal, they are literally seperate
So their scores shouldn't be counted at all, as those DLC packs would only be rated by people who liked FFXV enough to buy more content for it and are thus biased and not a true reflection of the public score. Got it.
>ff7 is the HIGHEST selling
Fastest selling.
>the best selling is
Final Fantasy 7.
>best selling is fastest selling
Best selling is units sold. If you pull up a list of the best selling books of all time, the 1st Harry Potter is on there despite the later books selling faster for example.
>xv has more awards not in that image which extend beyond goty
As a game, GotY awards certainly hold more weight to them than individual awards. Games can be great despite poor voice acting for example, so a VA award doesn't mean much.
I ask again, are you going to send more context for where these came from so we can break these down, or are you going to continue ignoring the question?
>XV is the most popular FF on the biggest music platform of this generation
The numbers represent plays, not how many individual listeners decided to come along and listen. The mentally ill FFXV community replaying the same track over and over means very little unfortunately.
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>>493102606
Not even close lol
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https://www.gamesradar.com/final-fantasy-16-is-the-fastest-selling-true-ps5-exclusive/#:~:text=Final%20Fantasy%2016's%20first,week%20as%20a%20PS5%20exclusive.
Fastest selling PS5 exclusive, my mistake.
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>>493103638
Spider-man 2
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>>493103048
Meant to say that FF7 is indeed the highest selling, as highest selling = best selling.
Fastest selling =/= best selling .
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7 Rebirth and XVI flopped
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>>493103048
>selling selling highest selling lowest selling fastest selling
Who cares? Sales literally haven't mattered ever since SoP and won't until SE has a major sales hit.
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>>493102606
*fastest mainline flopping
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It is weird how XVI and certainly Remake and Rebirth are constantly said to be better than XV, did XV just launch at the right time with the right advertising?
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Why did Anabella spare Clive? Why didn't she think about the fact that he may desert and seek revenge?
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>>493104950
Agreed. It goes without saying that sales numbers have no bearing on game quality anyway, which is what really matters.
There are some kickass games out there that didn't sell well at all, and those include some of my faves.
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>>493105629
Pay attention next time
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>>493105629
XVI writers?
Not geniuses.
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>>493106598
No
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>>493106598
Help me. I need an answer. I am collecting other people's thoughts before playing a second time.

>>493106751
Please, give me an answer.
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>>493106751
English?
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>>493107046
Fuck off
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>>493107070
Yes
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Why didn't they show Clive's sufferings after he was enslaved by the empire? For him, the events shown in the game to the player after the prologue are light at the end of a long dark tunnel, because he meets one friend after another, they help each other and everything sugar and rainbows. But for the player, who has to imagine the horrors that happened to Clive, the whole beginning of the story looks like one serious bad incident followed by an innofensive cute journey, with convenient plot events happening one after another. This is strange. I dunno, does not play into the dark serious setting and characterisation of the protagonist that much.
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idk why but i find tidus' weird maniacal laugh he does after bantering with the luca goers kinda funny
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>>493108110
XVI is one of the best selling exclusives on the PS5. You have to admit that's objectively impressive.
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>>493108282
>XVI is one of the best selling exclusives on the PS5. You have to admit that's objectively impressive.
I kneel. Now, why didn't they show Clive's sufferings after he was enslaved by the empire? It wouldn't hurt his characterisation.
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>>493106751
ROFL
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Looking forward to the next thread where someone who isn't obsessed links back to several off topic posts in this thread while getting replies from a conveniently present and highly supportive accomplice.
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>>493105513
>did XV just launch at the right time with the right advertising?
Pretty much. Good advertising, holiday season and at the right period of a console's lifecycle where enough people own it but are stilling interested in picking up games to justify their purchase.
FF fans of the PS3 generation had this new FF coming up which they had been following for up to a decade when it started life as Versus XIII.
The PS3 generation that didn't like FF13 had this new action FF coming out which seemed to address the issues of linearity they might have had.
And finally a new generation of gamers had this big open world game from a reputable, long running IP to sink their teeth into.
The franchise going with an open world was probably the biggest key to success, that genre really popped off that generation. GTA5, Spiderman, Witcher 3, Tsushima, Horizon all did really well on PS4.
And on the non-PS4 front, Zelda was in a similar spot to FF around the same time where it felt like the franchise was slipping but then bam. Modern open world structure, best selling in the franchise.
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Do the PC Versions of 7R and XVI run better than the PS5? Or are they lazy ports?
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>>493108163
Tidus is funny and I feel bad for anyone who can't enjoy his hijinks
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>>493109358
Do you want the honest answer or the agreed upon /ffg/ narrative answer?
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>>493109448
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>>493109368
he is funny.
it's been great going through 10 again.
i didn't remember his evil laugh.
i get why people wouldn't like him though. he does have a few whiny scenes but i still find it understandable why he freaked out a few times.
overall, i like him and find him entertaining.



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