Andraste EditionFor all things Dragon Age. Talk about the new game coming up, or the one you're replaying to psyche yourself up for Veilguard. Reply to the OP if you have an addition to make. We'll settle on an OP here in a thread or three.>Veilguard Offical Launch Trailer:https://youtu.be/NdtmtuzICOI [Open]>Veilgard waifu pollhttps://strawpoll.com/wby5Q602jyA
First for Shianni rape
started last thread but I'll just continue dumping these here
Anders did literally nothing wrong
>>500287103So, seriously now. Anyone have any clips of Bellara? I couldn't give less of a fuck about the tranny or whatever, I want to know what the asian girl is like.
>/dag/ is backA return to form, triumphant even perchance?
>>500287103So... Taash aside... Morrigan aside... Isabella aside... cringy writing aside... EA selectively handing out codes to inflate the review scores... Veilguard is looking pretty promising, right?
>>500287969>spoilerI dunno. Looked pretty good for a modern game.
>>500287864It is both a triumphant return to forum, while also being a brave new world.
>>500288142Yeah, she's pretty fine.Dorian on the other hand...
>>500287103>Andraste edition>doesn't actually post Andraste
>>500288846
>>500288971hagwould tho
>>500287103is the crack up yet
Is this the real life?
>>500289093literally asking to be raped
>>500289093THEY NERFED HER CHEST
>>500284976is they fuck that up again every dev needs to be shot
>>500288789Blame the inquisition devs for that haircut
>>500287864I cannot WAIT to play Veilguard and have a BLAST
>>500287103So are the rumours true about Andraste being the original OGB and the First Warden fucking Prime Mythal's pussy?
>>500287103What makes Leliana so waifuable anons?She's the BEST
>>500291890I always have found her to be kind of annoying. Like, I dont mind working with her, but Im not trying to hang out with her outside of work.
>>500291890>cute>french>religious>loyal>red hairshe is simply best girl
Its simple. We kill all the mages.
>>500291890>>500292717It took me 44 years to realize she was likely inspired by Imoen
Solavellan supremacy Solavellan superiority
>>500292717>>500291890Shes a bard. She just plays the part of perfect waifu to get what she needs from the warden.
Male dwarf warden romancing Zevran because he cant tell the difference between male and female elves.
>>500291890>>500292717>fr*nchImagine the hairy pits
>>500293201>to get what she needs from the wardenand that was lovewhich I was happy to give her
>>500293503Chantry forces you to shave all your body hair
>>500294035not for laysisters
>>500294160Id lay that sister
>>500287103>or the one you're replaying to psyche yourself up The Witcher 1>...for VeilguardNevermind
>>500294842good taste tho
>>500293089Did you hear how there’s barely any solavellan stuff
>>500295260That why they changed the name?
>>500295423because solas is barely in the game
>>500295260Yeah. Kinda based how the best romance will remain the one with the least content.
>>500295584But I want a big reunion and to talk Solas about her aieeee
>>500296038nigga move on
did this shit leak yet
Sten is going to come back and get his privilege checked by Taash so hard it cures him of his bigotry. People are going to lose their minds. Its going to happen after the refund window. Its going to be super cringe and everyone will seethe.Screencap this.
>>500296096I wanted 10 years no
>>500296421Another reason to hate Trash
>choose who the inquisitor romanced>get one (1) letterHow do we feel about that
>>500297708Its kinda super lame and I hate it.
>>500287103Previous thread >>499950704 btw
>>500296336Yes and no, footage of reviews leaked before the embargo.
>>500298064Oh, yeah. Good catch. Completely slipped my mind.
Thought this general was dead?
>>500297708Same shit as 99% of exported choices did in previous games.
>>500297708Dorians ingame so maybe he says something
>>500297708I assumed Inquisition romance content would be exclusively for solasfags so not shocked
>watch Mortismal review>he cannot even SAY what he likes about the game specifically, it's all vague, almost apologetic at times, like trying to downplay the abhorrent art style or how badly the chink elf fits an already wacky game thematically>watch shill up's review>autistically goes into particular specifics of what he hated over and over again, with several examples every time>both reviews are around the same length yet one of them gives me no real info about the game and another shows exactly what's wrong with it
Nuhre's coverage of this dumpster fire has been fun to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrjOK3L7SIE
How much str do I want on a dw rogue in Origins?
Pardon, /dag/ bros. I've been watching the shitshow around Veilguard and how upset people are. It made me interested to see what got you guys so passionate about the Dragon Age franchise. What DA game in particular do you recommend me to try that will let me see what you guys love so much?
>>500302532buy an ad
>>500304808Inquisition
Biggest flop of the year incoming in 2 days. nuBioware is finally fucking finished.
>>500304808Play Dragon Age Origins and ignore the rest of the franchise. The game still holds up exceptionally well.
>>500304808Origins duh. It’s why I’m still interested in this gay franchise
>>500305192It won't flop. Even Androgynomeda, even Anthem sold 5m copies. Braindead consoomers are going to consoom.
>>500304808Dragon Age Origins is an 11/10 game unlike any other. It's a shame there's no sequels.
>>500305195>>500305278>>500305409What's the problem with Inquisition?
>>500289093The only thing I dislike is her retarded hat
>>500305512The open world design was boring and the mission table was a fucking meme. Also the romance options for nearly nonexistent for straight males.
>>500305512Inquisition is ok, I don’t like the open world design
>>500305685Is Origins not open world?
>>500304808Origins, the rest of the series is fucking trashOrigins is basically BG3
>>500305740No idiot
>>500305831>bg3Shit game, Origins is far better. For as much as fags seethe over DA2 and DAI ruining a franchise, they sure give BG3 a pass for character assassinating several legacy characters and failing to live up to even the most basic bars set by the originals.
>>500305740It's a different kind of "open world". It's more like corridors and roads you travel on and encounter things along the way. Inq was going for the Skyrim open world hype at the time.
>>500305512The problem with inquisition is that it's a boring piece of shit with a gigantic singleplayer MMO world, generic goodie two shoes MC physically incapable of being mean towards other people, abhorrent recycled central antagonist who is evil for the sake of being evil and an atrocious combat full of bullet sponges. Its writing is incomparably worse compared to DAO, it gives you no real player agency, and it's already full of the same woke shit as Veilguard.Hell almost all of these issues are still present in Veilguard, they just became worse and instead of an open world there's apparently directionless maps that feel like they belong to overwatch.
>>500305512Terrible world design, bland single player MMO shitTerrible quests, again falling into single player MMO jank or just uninteresting tripeThe design changes look shit to me, but that's personal I just prefer the much more grounded looking OriginsCombat is ass due to wanting to be an action RPG, but not being a good one (just like DA2)
>>500305958Glad to hear this. I tried BG3 and was loving it at first, but then I ran into the party members and hated the fuck out of all of them (minus Shadowheart), refusing to team up with them. Especially the rogue, who gave off colossal faggot vibes. Got my ass whooped as a result and uninstalled the game, never to return.
>>500305958No, I mean it is literally basically Baldurs Gate 3, as in Biowares succession to their CRPG goodness, not that larian shit
>>500306170>hated the fuck out of all of them (minus Shadowheart)Holy shit awful taste
>>500297708I've never played DA and have just been lurking here but I have a questionWhy are those three characters locked? Isn't the point of this screen basically matching up how the choices you made in the previous game?
>>500306350Even that dog shit game had limitations on who would fuck who, because apparently faggot romance shit is the only reason the mongs who still play this tripe play Biowares RPGsNow everyone is a massive bisexual whore, or whatever the PC troon term is
>>500306112Inquisition combat is infinitely better than 2 just because it doesn't do the retarded wave based shit
>>500306529This is preferable, honestly. Characters shouldn't be bisexual, so much as "playersexual."
>>500306606I can totally agree there anon, but both are just mechanically badDA2s retarded hordes spawning out of your ass were dire though yeah
>>500306529Ohh I see so its locked cause a previous choice screen. Thanks.
>>500306170The best way to play BG3 is to make the chaddest male Dark Urge character you can think of, murder all other male party members and play with 3 female party members who are by far the best characters in the game. Gale is yeeted into the portal before you even meet him, Astarion gets staked, Wyll has an "accident" in the camp and never gets revived. Halsin fails his personal quest and dies.
I liked DA2's combat....... just exploding enemies into pieces with your attacks is so fun. Origins was better mechanically for the tactics though.
Origins is a genuinely mediocre rpg that people love because it came out during a drought and was most people’s first crpg
>>500306630That's the same thing, and no characters should be like real people are not a bunch of mentally deranged freaks who would fuck anything that moves (ie like a certain tiny minority of people)>>500306738Yeah it will be, for example I think that example is a (homosexual man) playing as a woman
>>500306940Nah. It's a genuinely high budget game with a bunch of cool roleplaying opportunities and a gritty setting/themes. Basically the closest to a CRPG blockbuster we got after BG2 and before BG3.
>>500306930DA2's combat is fun as a force mage, yeah. The animations were extremely visceral.
what's the deal with the Mr Matty plays drama with this game?
>>500307472>Mr Matty plays dramaWhat the fuck does this even mean?Some queer fuck youtuber I take it?
>>500307472He didn't like it, which seems to be the consensus. That's it. There is no drama.
>>500307472One of his editors broke his nda and was the source for a bunch of the leaks
>>500307472He’s a Bioware fan and hated it (he liked Starfield also). Something about his editor being a bad guy
Why is Sten so based?
Give me your honest opinion, /dag/gers. Are we fucked? Is this the end of our IP?
>>500295584I bet it still has more content than Cullen romance.
>>500308048Doubtful.Lots of coverage so it'll probably sell.Dragon Age has always been a profitable series.
I expect peak numbers to not go over 10k on steam
>>500308048We can only hope that this trash causes Bioware to go bust and die the miserable death it deserves
>>500308294I predict 20-30 at most.
>>500308228Anon, Alan Wake 2 got assloads of coverage and only somewhat recently broke even. There are a lot of modern games that get a massive journalistic push, but don't actually do well at all. Don't use coverage as a guarantee.
>>500308048I’m pretty sure normalfags are tuning out games media in general and the massive spergout controversies over nothing by this pointAll that matters is if it sells
>>500308463maybe that's more reasonable I guess, for brand recognition. But it will tank fast
>>500308480Didn't Alan Wake only release on EGS?
>>500308538It won't tank unfortunately. Even the fucking Anthem sold several million copies.
>>500308526The only people who give a fuck about bioware games are people who've played previous bioware games. They aren't attracting ANYONE new to the series with this shit.
>>500308698Well, neither chuds nor fujos will be happy with this game. So they're pretty much fucked.
>>500308661it has to catch up with them eventually, anon. Look what happened to Rocksteady's latest game, and they made the fucking Batman: Arkham trilogy.
The female cast looks so bad the quirky asian elf seems to be by far the only decent romance option, and she doesn't even fit the fucking setting
>>500308463It’s 2nd on steam rn
>>500309034Doesn't mean anything. Even niche as fuck games like Rogue Trader were high in global seller list right before release.
>>500309018Yeah, but she's no Sera. Thats for sure.
>>500308698The game will probably scoop up some of the bg3 audience at least
Read the feature at PCGamer rather than the review for the honest review from a fan of the franchise. Sounds like a 6/10 at best.https://www.pcgamer.com/games/dragon-age/with-the-veilguard-dragon-age-has-forgotten-its-dark-fantasy-roots-and-become-biowares-avengers/
>>500298963It returned to form
>>500309308Sera was a billion times worse. This one just looks like she came from a lighthearted fantasy adventure and even the worst reviews just call her a timid and quirky teenager.
>>500309308Is that a good or a bad thing?The Inq companions, and all new Bioware companions post mass effect 2 have been fucking terrible, I dont think they've made a single good one, maybe that bald elf cunt that fat whores want to desperately fuck
>>500306940I played on Xbox 360, though. And no, my first CRPG was KOTOR and I hate it.
>>500309308This bitch irritated the shit out of me, they put a lot of effort making her as hateable as possible.
>>500308228DA 2 sold over a million less copies than Origins.
Bros, please just hold off from buying this upcoming piece of shit until you see the user reviews. Fuck the video game access-journalism shills. Listen to people who have no financial incentive to lie.
>>500309360Holy shit it sounds as bad as I feared
>>500310016Unfortunately I don't care if the game is good or shit I just need to experience the story and not get spoiled on it so my fate is sealed.
>>500309284And Rogue trader peaked near 50k? Anyone who thinks DAV will only get 20k concurrent is a certified window licker
>>500307616>>500307553https://youtu.be/2sQ9y2RsFOg?si=sYJyZoernMO-954q
>>500305617>The only thing I dislike is her retarded hatThis game seems to be full of retarded hats, just look at the one of companions has, it's something you would see a model wear on catwalk not in everyday use.
>>500310156Why?
>>500309308Sera is a retarded greasy goblin
>>500310156Just pirate it at least, anon...
>>500310156sunk cost fallacy... Anon please
>>500310016Im boughting it on Halloween
>>500311063Can you even use your own world state if you pirate?
>>500311150It's not sunk cost fallacy. I have no emotional investment in an outcome or expectation of it being good or bad. I'm just going to experience the story for what it is and see what they came up with.
>>500310016But returns hurt worse than poor sales.
>>500311351Why wouldn't you be able to?
>>500311351>world stateThey aren’t the Keep at all
>>500311351Yeah. It not like real DA where you can import saves. You just answer, lmao, 3 questions and get going.
>>500290194>THEY NERFED HER CHESTIt's kinda funny, Isabellas design seems to switch from game to game, in the first game she was dark haired white woman, DA2 she was black with big tits and now she is a indian with small tits but the latter is common with all the female characters in this game it seems.
>>500311502*using
>>500311454Idk, maybe you'll have to customize your state on their site and need a legit copy for that.
>>500311629lmao you know you couldn't import anything in origins, right??
So...all the classes in veilguard can do magic?I've seen classes overview video and even warriors seem to do necromancy and elemental stuff
>>500311962kek
>>500311962In the first game???? Never!!!You stupid monkey
>>500308048>Is this the end of our IP?Hopefully. Any fan of DA would want a merciful death to this series atp.
>>500312295Wasn't magic supposed to be very restricted to a few people who had a connection to the fade or some shit like that?
>>500294842>>500294920tried playing this game way back when, cannot get into, felt clunky and shitty. and the way that FUCKING FAGGOT raises his hands over his head as he wields his sword pisses me off so fucking much i cant stand it
>>500289093They made her Brazilian?
>>500311671She’s from the same not-spain place Duncan is. She’s always been brown.
>>500312950She doesn't look very brown in DAO
this game was designed for wokegenders
>>500309308>white>dorky but in a good way>stupid but in a good way>internalized racism against her own kinWay more interesting than we deserved
>>500313048I only romanced her once because I normally like male inquisitors, but she was always my bff.
>>500313048For me it was how she wanted to be a believer but was freaked out by the concept of it all being real at the same time and how she can look to the Inquisitor as a role model. She did in my playthrough anyway. She really follows your lead as far as how she thinks and feels about stuff if you gain her trust. It's conveyed a lot through her little diary thing.
>>500313032It’s genuinely the lighting
>>500313048Shes ugly as shit
>>500313037anon, that's our word. don't let the normies see this
>>500307030>why are the fictional characters not heckin realistic??
>>500307950People are simple though. Sten miss
>>500308117Are you high? Cullen romance has a fucking wedding
>>500308526>over nothing>top surgery scarsThey promote mental illness and self mutilation, pretty fucked innit?
>>500313037I wish we could back to the fujoshi DA2.
>>500312639I don't remember well, last game was 8 years ago. But mages were basically mutants.I always played as a kind of angry magneto.Lorewise I do not know how things stand now.What I know its all three classes seem to be able to use magic now, so either they threw the whole thing out of the window or there is some lore reason in game for the mc being able to do all that
>>500315038I meant in Veilguard specifically.
>>500315778>upset by what others doget a life lmao
>>500315778Go outside
>>500316214>lore reason in game for the mc being able to do all thatBeing close to a tear in the Veil might do that
>>500316872>/pol/tard slopgo back.
What a shitshow. At least /dag/ is back, hope we see drawfriends again.Remember back in Origins where you could play an asshole noble that barges in to the elf camp and fucks the beta's girlfriend on the first date? or kill Zevran for being a faggot?honestly, I really liked Inquisition besides the slog that is the hinterlands, I loved that the Templars were the good guys and mages are cunts
>>500314695I think that's the joke. Like, he says people are complex, then perfectly describes city elves in 1 sentence.
>>500315778It's funny that people think of the 1% of the population that are trannies when they see top surgery scars and not of 50% of the population which are women
>>500317219Because the developers have advertised it as a trans-positive point, and it's actually referenced as a trans thing in the gameplay itself.
>tumblr
>>500308586EGS and consoles. It's honestly a bit of a shame because it's definitely a passion project. You don't get a lot of those anymore.
>>500289093That's somebody's son!
Bioware managed to make a Dragon Age worse than 2
>>5003183412 was significantly better than Inquisition and had some absolutely outrageous and unthinkable themes by modern westcuck standards like literal rapefugees.
>>500317054>hope we see drawfriends again.I gotchu
>>500318341were so back
>>500318606I don't you have played any dragon age game.
>>500319413Could someone kindly translate this monkey gibberish into human language?
>>500318856is that Sera?
>>500319575i think he meant to say>i don't think you have played any dragon age game I kinda agree with you though. I unironically prefer two over both Inquisition AND Origins.
>>500320031>red hair>Serano
Say what you want about Sera, but shes easily the most rapable companion of the franchise.
>>500314523>why would you want your characters to be like actual people, and not cardboard cutoutsShut the fuck up moron
>>500321042>that ugly pig faced greasy abortion victim>rapeable
>>500321214If seeing her tight, smooth, elven arse didnt make you want to smush that ugly pig face in the mud, spit on your dick, and start fissuring that anus... you might be gay.
>>500321662>start fissuring that anussounds gay
>>500321881Its okay bcuz its with a woman, and since its anal rape its not considered out-of-wedlock sex and is a-okay with the chantry. Anal raping elves is our Maker ficen right
>arse
>>500323148it was a subtle BG1 winthrop reference
no zevran, no buy
What background is /dag/ going to play? For me it's the Antivan Crows, though I'm gonna feel stupid being the only Crow without and Italian accent
>>500323941I didn't think of that
>>500323941whitemaleno scarswarriorwarden
>>500323941I'm going to be choosing whichever background has the least ugly starting outfit.
>>500323578sorry it was too subtle for me I am a nubioware fan
>mage is apparently boring as all shit to playAs if i needed more reasons to hate the game
Can all of /dag/ agree to disown Veilguard and bar it from discussion here, declaring it "not a real Dragon Age game?"
>>500325175No.
>>500325175No, frig off.
>>500325175no.
Any mention of other language options for voices in veilguard?
Elf female.spirit healer mage.romance Neve.Try to help Solas since he's not really a bad guy.Do every single sidequest to 100% the game on the hardest difficulty.I'm ready.
>>500326342>Try to help Solas since he's not really a bad guy....He tried to kill millions.
>>500326342>mfw playing as a female elf
>>500308048Nah, people are overreacting. I think I'll still enjoy it.
>>500326427I'll kill more if the game lets me.
>>500326427to correct a longstanding and persistent injustice. He's not malicious, he's literally trying to fix a big problem and that happens to involve some people dying. It's a much, much better motivation compared to a lot of other villains throughout fiction, including other DA villains.
>>500308048I expect it to have subpar sales but not necessarily catastrophic. The question is how much EA will put up with the studio perfoming below expectations.
>>500327007How do you feel about Ozymandias in Watchmen?
>>500326342EXTREMELY GAY
>>500326557Um... based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok363gl88y0
It's important to never forget that the cure for Wardens being tainted is canonically, factually, actually and literally Theirin cum.
>>500326427>...He tried to kill millions.To save BILLIONS
>>500326427He's not trying to kill people. People dying is a byproduct or necessary thing of what he is actually trying to do. He refuses to explain why this world has to die for his plan even if you ask him. But if there was a way to save his people that he knew of without anyone having to die there's no reason to believe he wouldn't take it.
>actkchually Mao wasn't trying to starve millions to death, it was a byproduct of his retarded agriculture schemesOk?
>the Inquisitor will supposedly have a decent amount of screentime>Hawke is dead and forgottenWhat message does that send?
>>500331221>The warden gets absolutely nothing
>>500331221That the Inquisitor hasn't been apart of a choice that potentially leaves them dead yet?
>>500331221Characters that can die in previous game are irrelevant.
>>500329216Maybe this is my inner racist talking, but does anyone else feel like Bellara's voice doesn't fit her character? The disconnect feels so weird to me. 55:55 mark in the video if anyone's curious.
>>500331743Wdym? She has a chipmunk voice for a quirky scatterbrained character so it fits, and that's what's annoying actually
I am asking once againCan you chud it out at all in the game?
>>500331862Imagine giving Merrill Sera's voice. That's what Bellara feels like to me.
>>500323941Mournwatch seems interesting but what I saw of their armor was so fucking ugly I'm reconsidering
>>500331191>Mao killed millions of chineseuh, based?
>>500332073No, obviously.
>>500332227The irony is that Bellara is designed after her voice actress so it literally IS her voice while Sera's VA actually has some real good range in proper roles.
>>500323941I'm actually kinda interested in the Veil Jumpers because they're new.
It was hilarious listening to the podcast how Bellara and Nadia sounded exactly the same. Pretty much every female character sounded the exact same except Drayden and Neve.
Champion please help uswe dindu nuffin we good boysI helped the murderer that killed your mother and turned her into a meat puppet btwnow I'll use blood magic to become a flesh golemmage lives matter
>>500334493we consider that non-canon around here
>>500334493I wonder if the game really thought they were pulling a fast one when they had the letter be signed "O."Like we were supposed to be shocked by the revelation at the end of the game?
>>500334493Both sides in the Kirkwall conflict were utterly retarded. Which makes it funny to me when we get to Val Royeux and see Vivienne, a circle mage, holding a soiree. Maybe if Kirkwall wasn't such a shithole, mages would have better living conditions.
You aren't actually gonna buy this shit, are you?
>>500337721>buy
>>500338637>give me my fucking money
Dragon Age Of Consent
>>500339310I don't consent in fucking that gook
>>500339310Bellara better be 15, tops.
>>500339439Her writer said shes 30 something lol
>>500339310who edited this shit. why is the hand so fucking close
>>500301557And both are tubelord marketers of zero worth.
>>500340053nah, the dialogue that Skill Up showed is awful
>>500340053I don't really give a shit about neither of them but skill up's review is very well argumented, and he presents a shitload of actual examples of things he's talking about. Art style, dialogues, and their delivery, "my face is tired" tier facial animations are incredibly jarring and the combat is indeed just a vomit of special effects with all the worst issues of ME2/3 combat system.
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/dragon-age/with-the-veilguard-dragon-age-has-forgotten-its-dark-fantasy-roots-and-become-biowares-avengers/>What does The Veilguard do? It is a polished and competent BioWare action-RPG that follows a safe, conventional pattern. The old BioWare magic has been codified and sanitised, and now feels dated—even more so than BioWare's actually pretty old RPGs. It is as broad, predictable and inoffensive as a crowd-pleasing Marvel movie, all flashy, clean and easy to digest; so it has the power to be entertaining, but never in a way that will stick with you. There are no big swings, no risks, no shocks, and while I have enjoyed some of it, for most of my fourth trip across Thedas I've been left pretty bored.
>>500331743I dunno I like her voice. I keep imagining it moaning and it makes my pp the big pp.
>>500341075>my face is tiredIt still baffles me that someone actually wrote that line and another one approved it. I have never heard this expression outside of this game.
>>500341249So my worse fears came true. They made DA a non-offensive Marvel movie.
>>500341896Yeah, some people who played the game were comparing it to Guardians of the Galaxy in terms of tone last week.
>>500341249>In Origins, you had Alistair and Morrigan constantly winding each other up, in Inquisition you had Solas lecturing you and being disappointed that it wasn't sinking in, and in BG3 you literally have companions trying to murder each other—conflict adds texture to an adventuring party. Heck, even the Avengers ended up fighting each other in Civil War. But the Veilguard gives you friendly automatons with very little agency, which makes any relationship you build with them feel hollow.Why did they make everyone so soft and friendly
>>500342190Because the current trend is “comfy” and “found family” even though most of the things people see that as…are not. They’re coworkers who get along. Having companions who all get along and respect each other is incredibly dull
>>500342190Because this is basically Corporate Culture: the Game. Or as Skill Up puts it, all dialogue happens as if HR was in the room.
>>500342186Guardians are Kino though. Both the movies abd the game. The concept is not bad, the trick is in proper execution.
>>500342449A lot of young people, in particular, seemingly want stories where everyone gets along all the time and there’s no meaningful conflict.
>>500342415For real. Alistair and Morrigan's petty arguing is memorable
>>500341075The art style argument is completely subjective. I don't play Inquisition because it looks like ugly, psuedo realistic garbage. I will never finish it for as that being one of the top three primary reasons. It's ugly as sin.
>>500342803I played DAO so long ago that I don’t remember much, but I do remember that. Them being pissy added another layer if you made them fuck to save the world
>>500342665Every Creative Writing 101 class will tell you that there is no story without conflict. These people have no idea what they want.
>>500342985Inquisition is just as ugly as veilguard for different reasons. They are both butt ugly. But despite everything, inquisition did fit the tone of early DA better than this pixar shit.
>>500342665But at the same time, people praise and love all the bickering you can achieve in RPGs. Korgan bullying Aerie. Mad bantz in Planescape. Constant shit talking in Owlcat games including Regill repeatedly owning Sosiel.
>>500343123Exactly. I don’t need them to want to kill each other but surely there’s a line between hug box and murder, as our companions are always from a variety of cultures In a similar vein, we have more gay characters on tv, but in a milquetoast “they exist, yay” way without making them interesting or having anything for them to do besides be representation.
>>500341896>>500343138https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3h7pO6xLAM&t=459s7:39
>>500342415>>500342803Even Inquisition had some characters be pretty hostile with one another. Vivienne with Sera, Blackwall and Solas for instance was constant bickering. Everyone getting along doesn't make sense when it's a bunch of strangers. It took Morrigan until Inquisition to admit Alistair's a good man.
>>500343381The player can’t even talk shit anymore, we’re back to the da2 method of “yes, in different tones” which skillup did a good job discussing
>>500343036>if you made them fuck to save the worldNo...
>>500343634Same shit infuriated me in Inquisition too.At least in DA2 you could actually be sneery and ironic. Here it looks like you're just a goodie boy.
>>500343625Ok well in Origins he isn't really a "good man." He can become a recently reformed manchild at best.
>>500343625It makes sense that different people would have opposing viewpoints. I do not care about found families, give me drama ree
>>500343782>ManchildHe is 20 tops in DAO
>>500343381Korgan bullying Aerie actually has a poignant moment when she starts fighting back, which was what he wanted her to do from the get go. It was to teach her not to take everything lying down.
>>500343554whyWHY
>>500343770I like being a good boy in video games, but it’s nice to have the option to…not. Sure, old biowares “bad” options were hamfisted and cartoon evil but I miss it
>>500341075You don’t have to watch mortismal’s reviews to know he meanders, gives generic high level insight and repeats himself about 10 times over. Shillup is just a marketing contractor like all YouTubers. Not that I have an inherent problem with that marketing is good income I’m all for it. Not like the BioWare dev teams, that are mostly over paid when they under deliver
>>500343554Why does the gook elf have such a Brazilian surgery tier ass?
>>500343554It's not that bad
It's fucking wild how different the CRPG landscape is compared to 2014. We don't need bioware. We don't need obsidian. They can rot in hell and nothing will change. Both the indie sector and AA devs are producing good projects. I am almost done with Rogue Trader and I wonder why I would pick up Veilguard, even from the torrent.
>>500342415where are pronouns "family friendly"?
>>500343853Even the Guardians, who basically codified the modern found family, didn't get along immediately. And in the second one they actually argue very heavily. Which was kinds poignant because families do fight. A lot.
>>500343939In a world where your average life expectancy is like, 45
>>500342415>Because the current trend is “comfy” and “found family”In BG3 the entire party was at each other's throats most of the time. Two chicks almost murder each other in cold blood right in your party and you choke a cinnamon roll bard with her own guts just because she was in the wrong place at a wrong time. And that game sold millions upon millions.
>>500344093Is that a bad thing?
I, for one, am excited to play the game and actually form my own opinions.
>there are merely three options to customize your world state
>>500344498It's the trend among media illiterate 20 year old twitter/tumblrites who the devs desperately crave the approval of.
>>500344174I think it’s funny that anons who haven’t played the games are crying that characters are splashing around in piss and shit and constantly at war like dragon age was ever a 40k tier setting. The only reason origins was like that was because you were in the backwater shithole of Thedas. It’s like playing legend of heroes and thinking everyone lives in farm villages, when in reality, the first game just happens to take place in fantasy nigeria . And everyone else in the world has high technology and sorcery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXNvDzlXqSALooking back, having music like this underpinning most of your companion interactions was pivotal in making the game feel significant. There's so many ersatz fantasy settings out there post-Tolkien, it's hard to not be forgettable. DA distinguished itself by being a serious, sincere, dark setting. Seeing the setting now as just one big Marvel movie in tone and presentation is sad. RIP Dragon Age, at least you'll be taking Bioware with you
>>500344674And it's not even any of the choices that might make the Inquisitor a potential puppet for Solas. A fuck it. Maybe there's at least a cute letter that the Inquisitor will write Cullen or something.
>>500344558Yeah it kinda is.
>>500344725>like dragon age was ever a 40k tier settingOrigins was indeed a very grimderp setting. Not 40k tier, but it was full of misery, politics, backstabbing, deals with the demons, blood magic, even literal cuckoldry.Kiseki is moronic too btw, the tech discrepancy between nations and games is RETARDED.
>>500344839You would think he would take advantage of the fact that you did NOT disband the Inquisition but who knows. I'm curious how that choice will be used.
Is there a single opinion fans of all 3 Dragon Ages can agree on?
>>500344839Is Cullen even in the game after that drama with the VA?
>>500339869Perspective, son
>>500345179¿Quién? I forgot
>>500345179Vivienne and Wynne should have been romance options.
>>500344950It’s okay to be ass backwards when it comes to kiseki. But I’m glad we agree that all of that was confined to ferelden. And that every other nation in the setting is like what the fuck is wrong with these substandard barbarian retards.
>>500345179That BioWare is washed up and it’s a shock this game is coming out, it’s been a decade
>>500344827https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXNvDzlXqSAI fucking love it.
>>500345356Samson
>>500345470>But I’m glad we agree that all of that was confined to fereldenWhat? No it wasn't. The way DAO portrays Tevinter makes it sound like a terrifying blood magic infested grimderp shithole several magnitudes worse than even Ferelden itself.
>>500345612>believing Fereldan propagandaAnon, those people are literally dogs.Tevinter is the most prosperous place in all of Thedas
>>500344725DA wasn't quirky and soft. Look at the original trailers. I don't care about 40gay but this way more sanitized.
>>500345612Ferelden low fantasy everywhere else high fantasy always was
>>500345787Nigger you literally interact with tevinterians in DAO, and they are every bit as despicable as the info about their country suggests.Sure thing they are "prosperous" as long as you understand grimdark shit is happening behind every door. THAT's why i wanted a game about Tevinter, and what i got is some PG12 monstrosity.
>>500346019Veilguard is not "high fantasy", it's tumblr fantasy.
>>500346102Im pretty sure Tevinter will be fixed with this game. No more slavery or blood magic :)
>>500346102Tevinter was full slavery mage ruling nightmare town and I damn near forgot this game was supposed to be there because the trailer seems nothing like it
>>500346275It looks just about as fantastical and whimsical as Witcher 3
>>500346791luv them goofy boyzThey should be in DAV too
>>500346791Sure thing dipshit
>>500346102>it’s not rated m that means it a kids game I thought alleged adults were past the mature games for mature gamer perpetuated by underage retards mentality. That said veilguard does seem goofy
>>500344839Are you a woman?
>>500347074Nah dongus, the only hard M content in Witcher 3 is the fetus and the kids in the forest. Everything else is pretty appropriate for a 14-16 year old market.
>>500345179elf pussy
>>500347839is EXCLUSIVELY for human women
>>500347824And veilguard is 10+ territory. What's next?
>>500346019>Low fantasyYou don't know what low fantasy is, and Fereldan is nowhere near low fantasyIt is dark fantasy, and it is high fantasyDA2/Kirkwall is similarBioware just became sanitary shit making dating games for femoids and low test 'men'
>>500345298They wrote it into the game that Cullen is a big meanie who wants to gas the queers
>>500347987Now I think you’re unreasonably and inarguably upset over a non issue
>>500348089He was already based, they made him even better?
>>500348089I would believe it
>>500348301>unreasonablyNo, i'm very reasonably upset a dark fantasy title was turned into this E rated shit show.
>>500348418Rated E doesn't mean it's bad or lesser.
>>500345179bring samson back
>>500348546E rating means it cannot explore any interesting themes DAO was known for, shill.
>>500348546Holy shit kys
>>500348405More likely they kill him off-screenThat's the playbook
>>500348650Bioware never explored any really interesting things. Not since Jade Empire. They've always been pretty sanitized and middling.
Solas could have gone through with revealing everything like he was gonna do in the Crestwood scene before he chickened out, and just wiped Lavellan's memory if she reacted badly.
>>500348816Cullensisters gonna snap
>>500348825>Jade Empire is this dipshit's idea of "interesting things"You come off legitimately brain damaged
>>500349032
did veilguard ending leak?
>>500349474No
>>500349474The ending achievements did
>>500344558Meaty ass to grope and spank, so my penis is happy. Fuck it, at least there's something feminine there.
>>500349474I think it ends with killing the DREADWOLF
Taash and Rook, post coitus.
>>500352316No im gonna redeem him with elf pussy
>>500352736cringe
>>500352736>that lineIt is mildly infuriating that "people" got paid for writing this.
>>500352784Supposedly, only Taash and Davrin have a proper sex scene.
They/them in the streetHe/him in the sheet
>>500345179I think most people agree that the first one was the best one.
>>500352736>They gave the 2 least popular companions sex scenesWhat were they thinking
>>500353350>>500352736Neat, hope Bellara leaks soon. Her scene will determine if I buy or pirate
>>500353350>play game>get sex scene where it looks like companion is threatening to rape your characterI only go for that in visual novels and jrpgs.
>>500345302notice how i didn't ask why its so big but rather asked why its so close. too close
So Varric isn't even a companion in DAV?
>>500353996He's tired
Any leaks regarding Morrigan? Or any other DAO companions?
>>500353996I've never understood the fascination with discount Garrus.
What was the point of all of this?
>>500354490It's amazing that they were either too lazy or too incompetent to program some check flags to feed in some alterations of what mostly amounts to alternate flavor text.
>>500354402I'm not that big of a fan of him either, but having him on the team means one less potentially disastrous companion.
>>500354490man Samson and Calpernia were more likeable than half of your team, I always took Varric, Cassandra and Solas, the only ones I likedwaitDo we even see Calpernia in Veilguard?
>>500354798Fair enough.
>>500353550Apparently she doesn't have a sex scene nor a kiss even.
Only the non-binary companion has a steamy sex scene? Why does this seem both stupid and plausible?
>>500355161On one hand I find that incredibly hard to believe, on the other hand, I can see it being the case because Correy? clearly had pet favorite characters based on all of his interviews.
>>500355161Is she supposed to be asexual. Why did they gush so hard about romance if there's nothing.
>>500355161>>500355557Bioware is too lazy to animate a sex scene for all the different playable races
>>500348816Cullen is like the Garrus of Dragon Age. No way they'll kill him.
where do kids even pirate games anymore im not asking for any particular reason lol!
>>500356301boku no google. It really isn't that hard.
>>500353038Oh what the fuck, seriously?
>>500353038the black and the sexual minority awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know characters being pansexual is the norm now and not surprising after BG3 but the idea of a dwarf sleeping with Taash the 7' firefighter is pretty funny
>>500355161Bioware is incompetent enough that I can totally believe that. But not even a kiss make it worse than Solas, who at least got a kiss and mentioned offscreen sexytimes.
are the imgur galleries of /dag/ drawings still alive?does anyone have that drawing of Varric like pic related
>>500355947I suppose. Why bother gushing about it if you don't bother to deliver. At least Larian had the gumption to give an experience equally to the many races and body types you could play as.
Bioware too lazy to animate my Lavellan taking Dreadwolf knot. Tsk.
>>500355161Please tell me you're bullshitting.
>>500356468Nah, I lost my /dag/ folder when my hard drive died.
>>500355947Lol thats probably true
>>500356462I think they’re going full marvel movie “we have to appeal to a broad base” with it, idk. I remember reading that the guy who wrote Solasmance - on his own time - said making it ambiguous whether there was sex was a deliberate choice for obvious plot reasons
>>500356565I don't know if it's true. Just something I heard through word of mouth. Some reviewer named "Dantics" apparently said so?
>>500356439The worst and/or funniest part is that you could romance Halsin as a small as fuck halfling in BG3 and Larian actually put in the work to make the animations fit. But AAA Bioware can't.
>>500356439Everyone was playersexual in 2, then back to assigned sexualities in inquisition. And if sufficiently horny, they could make it work
>>500355563>Why did they gush so hard about romance if there's nothing.Beats me. Literally that was the only thing Bioware had left in their deck. And even that was tossed aside for whatever reason.
>>500356749Fuck it I got desperate enough to look through reddit, apparently only the tranny gets some passion?
>>500356415So, I've heard. I know take a grain of salt as always.
>>500356875I remember one review mentioning the romances were more mind vs body and it’s like…do they not know the only reason I didn’t drop DA2 after ten hours was that I wanted to fuck fenris. Yes we all know “pick heart options to eventually fuck” isn’t realistic but come ON
>>500356987So it would seem, along with the Warden.
Ummm the fate of the world is at stake maybe there's more than just sex??
>>500357034>Yes we all know “pick heart options to eventually fuck” isn’t realistic but come ONThat's the thing. The system is exactly the same except for the culmination. There isn't any rivalry/friendship variation between your relationship with each companions either. None of them get into any major conflict. They simply bicker over minute things and then get over it. And there's no jealousy to be seen either if you try flirting with all of them. They'll all react the same. Once you lock in with a companion. Then you are unable to breakup nor do your other companions acknowledge the relationship.
>>500357712Breaking up with Alistar to fuck Zevran in DAO was never not funny. The other games all had some kind of acknowledgement vis a vis party banter and whatnot!
>>500357712I feel most anons knew things were really bad when they tried to sell that "Mass Effect" approach to combat, but your companions aren't actually there. They somehow managed to simplify and codify and already simple system. Now they don't amount to anything more than additional, barebones, toolkits. All of these little ancillary things added on are just the cherry on top.
>>500357712Nobody is allowed to be mean to each other that's why.
>>500358024Seriously what did they spend all the time on making this fucking game? All the features are gone!
>>500358315Ten years of dev time doesn’t mean ten years of working on the game. Dollars to donuts they scrapped at least three ideas and engines. We know it used to be called Dreadwolf.
>>500358421100% the criticism of reused maps and "the zones feel like overwatch maps with 3 lanes" is absolutely recycled from when this was a live service shit slip game
>>500356875Was romance even pushed that hard? It feels like it just the expectation of it, because BIOWARE, but I don't know if they leaned on it that much in marketing
>>500358567It was. The devs are "those types". The main one loves Solavellan apparently too
>>500358567>but I don't know if they leaned on it that much in marketingThey did. There were several press junkets talking over and over about. I remember people on the subreddit getting irritated about how much of a spotlight it was getting over everything else.
>>500358567Romance has always been a BioWare tm thing, and though I don’t remember enough about past games marketing, their fanbase cares about companion romance big time, it’s a large part of the appeal
They only gave the black guy and non-binary trans qunari sex scenes. WHAT is wrong with them.
>>500359051Taash is an obvious creator’s fave, what with her plot being all about coming out as nonbinary
>>500345179There are fans of all 3 DAs?
>>500359283You are probably right....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRijbsPR2I4This person mentions liking Lucanis' romance but felt like it lacked one or two more scenes to properly flesh it out.
>>500359051Harding sex would have been very problematicBecause of her height
>>500359283>>500359397Taash is written by the lead writer who is a blue haired theythem and dedicated his DA novel to the LGBTQIA+ community
>>500359508Good to know nothing is fleshed out
>>500359508That’s the most lukewarm “I liked it” I’ve heard, you can hear the disappointment
>>500359576My special self-insert .............>>500359674She is a huge bioware shill. She is never that critical.
>>500359674>you can hear the disappointmentOh, for sure. I'm certain people who were into Lucanis had been expecting something on level of Ryder and Cora's scene in Andromeda.
Talking romance. Apparently none of the Inquistor's romances are acknowledged except for Solas. It was more or less confirmed as such with Dorian in particular.
>>500359825I never actually watched that scene til now. Yeah, that’s the “spiciest” BioWare ever got. There’s thrusting! I wouldn’t expect that, but I bet it’s a little bit of kissing, limited nudity, a fade to black. You don’t need nudity for a good scene (Anders pre-romance scene was weirdly hot even if I didn’t like him) but I’ll bet it’s pretty chaste, like the Harding one we saw
>>500360102Sucks for everyone else, but I elf girl romanced solas and am winning again. Still vowed to kill him at the end. It makes a sort of sense, the gate checks are obviously incredibly few and it’s the only “relevant” choice
>>500357531Sure so let's not fuck the tranny then.
>male romanceSometimes you forget there are str*ight women and f*gs here
>>500360209>Yeah, that’s the “spiciest” BioWare ever got. There’s thrusting!Sex scenes haven't exactly been integral. Nor were there all that much in Dragon Age outside of Origins. But you'd think with how mature rated games have been more lax with sexual content displayed in them. Like in Cyberpunk 2077 or Baldur's Gate 3. Bioware would not exactly take it a step further. But get more comfortable in providing similar with their later games. Though to be fair they are under EA's thumb.
>>500361001Yeah I went for Alistair, Fenris and Solas :heart:
>>500361070No point in blaming EA for this shit. They seem perfectly willing to do shit as long as there's at least some passion, which is why the tranny got shit that, apparently, most others don't.
>>500361001>Sometimes you forget In the Dragon Age general, of all places?
>>500361070Can't blame the higher ups and more competents in suits for everthing. Sometimes creative really are just fuck ups.
>>500361172>>500361238Good point, both of you.
I was looking at the andromeda romances and come to think of it, only a few options there get proper sex scenes, most are just fade to black makeouts
>>500361810Sure but apparently we might not even get a scene kissing someone? Like what the hell.
>>500361810Were they even promising sex scenes? This franchise has never gone further than dry humping and post-sex nudity
>>500361878No, yeah, I agree. Feels like maybe we’ll get kdrama level of “one absolutely nothing peck on the lips kiss” or nothing!
I think even a solid kiss before fade to black can be satisfying, but apparently you can't even have that kind of seriousness anymore
Honestly they should just go full penetration. Give people what they want. Larian tested the waters and I think it's clear people are ready for a mainstream porno game
>>500361810>only a few options there get proper sex scenesThat's always been a problem. Not to justify it but clearly the dev team was catering to the largest crowd. And that was straight men. Cora's scene in particular was hand animated by someone who worked at Naughty Dog. Plus the fact they were wary I assume when it came to the aliens. Though Jaal was the one exception where you can see him performing oral briefly before it fades to white.
>>500362063Andromeda had nudity (tits and ass) which, at the time, was a bit surprising. Two of the scenes had a hint of thrusting, the other was an obvious prelude down the body to oral, stopping right before there and fading to black
>>500362119Harding's kiss scene was like that
>>500361070That "controversy" surrounding the Liara sex scene in ME1 arguably gave the game quite the publicity boost.
>>500362334Cora’s was the one given the most obvious love, I was pretty surprised at the brief thrusting. I romanced Jaal when I played and seeing Ryder’s tits and Jaal going downtown felt rather daring for the time. This is, of course, pre Witcher 3 and BG3
>>500362414It certainly did but it also made them backtrack in other aspects. Jack in ME2 was a romance option for femshep but it was cut although she still mentions have relations with women. Same went for Thane as well. He was initially meant to be bisexual. But it was scrapped due to fear of public outrage at the time. But things have definitely changed in the past decade. So I don't see why not taking it a step beyond.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhfzyGbnAYA
>>500359312DAO is the bestDA2 gameplay is awful but I loved the companions, it feels like a group of friendsDA:I was fine, Cassandra was cute
>>500362739Why would Jack banging women on screen be considered controversial? I remember her mentioning it a dialogue too.
>>500362739I forgot which writer said it but they said Jack is ackutally pansexual
>>500363179It was the late 00's and early 10's. Fox News made a fuss about it when it came to femshep and Liara's possible relationship. This was still back before gay marraige was legalized. Public sentiments were changing but old media and talking heads still had influence.
>>500363179ME2 came out in 2010, gay marriage wasn’t fully legalized in America until 2015. At the time, the conservative boogeyman wasn’t trans people, but gay people
>>500363179Anon people still sperg out about gays
>>500363465>This was still back before gay marraige was legalized.In the US specifically of course.
>>500363579You’re still gonna see people on here and all the gamergaters complain about gay people and woke but mainstream acceptance of gay people is way, way up compared to a decade ago
>>500362809DA:I was not fine, its story was dogshit. DAII was somewhat insulated from this since it chose to tell a much smaller-scale story, but Inquis was just horrible. They tried to up the stakes to make things more exciting but Corypheus was such a horrible villain it fell flat completely
>>500363579Yeah but much less about lesbians.
>>500363718I flat out forgot corypheus was the bad guy in inquisition, I only played the goty edition and boy, I would’ve been pissed with the base game
>>500363465>>500363617Like most liberal victories in the culture war, gay marriage was brought out through the courts, not by any democratic mandate. Public sentiments have not changed and may have gotten worse now that the LGBTQ+ agenda has gone 1984 and you can't go a day without seeing their propaganda flag
Way too many text posts, not nearly enough imagesWhat is wrong with this gen
>>500364896Nobody wants to look at the new art style. This is a text-only general now.
>>500364896Nobody wants to look at Sera either
Trying to compile a list of confirmed spoilersReturning characters>Varricobviously. there's a screenshot showing him at the war table with the entire companion cast, so it seems as if the fear of him being killed off by Solas in the opening might not come to fruition. >SolasOpens as the big bad but the ritual gets botched and he's apparently trapped and you only actually see him a couple of times and he's a weird ally-but-not really. Your homebase is his former home, and there's basically memory sequences where you find out more about him. (when he was young he had hair)>Inquisitor You can customise them similar to hawke returning in DAI. The only 3 choices carrying over are who they romanced, if they promised to save/stop Solas, and if they disbanded or kept the inquistion.>Morriganshows up but we have little actual context. The mirror choice from Inquisition isn't carried over, and neither is the Dark Ritual/Kieran (which pretty much every straight male player in these games agrees was based). So it seems more like a nostalgiabait "SEE, SHE'S BACK" generic ally thing rather than anything with much depth>Doriannothing so far but a screenshot showing him visibly older and with a weird shaved-sides Mohawk which is weirdly the exact same hair young Solas had.>Isabelajust a screenshot showing her in a realtively skimpy outfit but boobs seem nerfed. No further details but apparently it seems she may be part of the Lords of Fortune faction (and they fucking need it since it appears their representative companion Traash is going to easily the worst part of the game, if not franchise)
>>500287103ahahahahahahahahaha KYS /dag/
>>500356715Yeah he wrote it on his own time because Solas and Cullen's romances were added late in development due to the game getting a year delay. If it wouldn't have been delayed he wouldn't even be a romance.
>>500365940Thank god he did. I'm not into Blackwall or Bull.
>>500358746Well, the developers of the new Life is Strange also 'love' Chloe (their statement) but actually despise her. Solas being barely in the game tells me they might be liars.
>>500359528Based Larian meanwhile absolutely did NOT give a fuck about having a tall person sex up a Dwarf.
>>500360102>Apparently none of the Inquistor's romances are acknowledged except for Solas. It was more or less confirmed as such with Dorian in particular.Why even fucking bother making it a choice then? Jesus Christ.
>>500366496Supposedly theres a letter from your RO
>>500365940>>500366181He was the only man in all of Inquisition I was into, and that was largely because I played the game late so I was spoiled as to who he was and I love drama. if not for him, I would've romanced Josephine, who was cute. I don't remember much of inquisition but I remember the big solas tattoo removal scene.I have no idea who on earth would romance Blackwall
>>500366181Agreed. Cullen and Solas are the only really vanilla romances for a straight female (well, Solas might veer into DILF territory too actually) and that they weren't initially planned at all is kinda horrifying. Imagine being 'saddled' with Blackwall and Iron Bull.
>>500365581I'd have liked the Morrigan choices to carry over but realistically speaking she's probably going to get mother-bodyjacked again
>>500366617I'll take that. Seems fitting for Cullen. I hope he spent the last eight years mating pressing the Inquisitor and he's now too busy keeping watch over their children.
>>500366980>she's probably going to get mother-bodyjacked againShut your whore mouth. She will be fine.
>>500367132she will! after another mythal fight! Happened in origins, happened in Inquisition with the "whoopsie didn't mommy tell you she was mythal, you drank from the well, I have power over you." I imagine they'll treat that as a default
>>500366980Do we even know the extent of her appearance in the game? Could just be a 5 second for all we know.
>>500367380Im betting on that
>>500366973non-delayed inquisition would have been a horrorshow for female players. Blackwall, Iron Bull, Sera, and Josephine as the only options, period. Blackwall and Sera are hated by the playerbase, I only ever see Iron Bull as a gay option, Josephine's romance was sweet but there wasn't much to it. Male players get Cassandra and Dorian as their main options
>>500366980>>500367132>>500367281Are we sure she isn't already Mythal'd? When Solas offed Flemeth a spark of her soul escaped, and Gaider himself said that his plan back then was for it to reach Morrigan. So maybe it's not really Morrigan but Mythal and thus they can conveniently ignore all her choices.
>>500367281Flemeth/Mythall is dead just like Bioware will be after this shitshow.
>>500367647yeah, that was very much a built-in sequel hook. It would make sense, what with all the setup over the games and the lack of choice. if I were the writers, I'd give the players a final Mythal confrontation where we finish things off for good, the theme is killing elven gods, I guess
>>500367728Bioware is all but dead already, this dev cycle has been a shambling corpse changing from single player to live service back to single player, and it's a ship of thesus since Gaider and most of the rest of the team (rightfully) got out of dodge
LMAO
>>500368160You're laughing, you've chosen the most OP party member and you're laughing!
>>500367380Given reviewers said Solas is barely in the game, I wouldn't be surprised.
>>500368662Solas looks to be an occasional "bad guy helping you fight worse guys" appearing in dreams and visions and such. I think he'll get the most screentime out of any past party member
>>500368160It's insane that game won't let you pick the dog. Anyway, I think the best choices for this roleplaying wise are Zevran, Stan or Alister (if you're gonna let Loghain die anyway)
>>500368329I really should've chosen the dog. Sent Alistair and it took him FOURTY health potions to beat Loghain. Can't believe I'm making this clown the king of Ferelden.
>>500368662And it used to be called Dreadwolf lmao. I wonder through how many revisions the story went.
>>500369671I can't wait to hear all the troubled development like andromeda
>>500368160funniest joke in the game
>>500369671They literally had ANOTHER game prepared from 2015 to like 2018. It was supposed to be called Dreadwolf and was about chasing Solas across Thedas as he is collecting artifacts and shit he needs for his ritual. It was much smaller, but also focused on companions and on big story "heists". It was supposed to end on Solas' ritual and how it went wrong, releasing the elven gods. But they for some reason skipped that game, and went straight to the next story - stopping the elven gods, but they kept the focus on the companions gimmick and the fact that game takes place in several locations that you teleport between, not big open world, and just added factions (grey wardens, lords of fortune, etc.) that you recruit. There is a reason Epler or whoevert he fuck said that "well AKTUALLY we wanted this season's beginning to feel like the end of another game" because it literally was before. There was some fuckery around 2017-2018, when they redid that game they were preparing for more of an online game, almost a hero-type, like you get to pick a class and background, and go kill darkspawn in dungeons and shit, but they gave up on that AGAIN, and everything they did for these two games they didn't released got pulled into Veilguard in some form. Which is hillarious, because it's a second time they remade an online Dragon Age into a singleplayer game (Inquisition).
So stupid Alistair killed Loghain without my input and I was planning to sacrifice him for the ending. Am I screwed now? Alistair is going to be the king so I can't use him. I'm the only grey warden left in my team. Fuck.
>>500370325>it's a second time they remade an online Dragon Age into a singleplayer game (Inquisition).That explains the mmo-ness of it. Why doe EA keep thinking people want a mulitplayer DA game
>>500370451All you had to do was put your penis in Morrigan. I’m sure your warden will be daijoubu
>>500370451I think you can still sacrifice Alistair even if he's king. Which makes it all the more pointless that he ascends to the throne. The bloodline is gonna die out in any case.
>>500370693Oh trueee the ritual. Jesus this is like my 4th playthrough and I've forgotten everything.
You really would have to hate Morrigan as a person to not accept her deal even if you don't romance her.
>>500371498yeah it's not really a good "choice" if there's literally no downsides. Unless you're purposefully roleplaying a retarded templar who will never trust a mage
>>500371747Even Templars are known to dip. Isn't that how Wynne's son was born?
>>500370562>Why doe EA keep thinking people want a mulitplayer DA gameOnline brings money. The whole reason they bought Bioware IN THE FIRST PLACE was because Bioware had rights to KOTOR, and the second they bought them - they now had the right to make SWTOR - an MMO. Then Mass Effect 3's multiplayer was kind of a big deal, not BIG deal, but a lot of people played it and loved it, even though some people complained how it was too attached to the story (you HAD to play multiplayer to get bonus points for your military readiness in the story, if you didn't your score would be a fucking half of what you got in readiness). So in Inquisition they went an opposite they - they never mention multiplayer to you, even though Inquisition HAD a multiplayer, but nobody fucking played it, I doubt some people even noticed it.
>>500371498I chose a male warden literally to romance her lmao. Have to say she's pretty well written.
>>500371747>yeah it's not really a good "choice" if there's literally no downsidesThere are no downsides now, since we have Inquisition and know there are no downsides, and now with Veilguard rebooting the franchise none of that matters anyway. But back in Origins we didn't know, and Morrigan's offer looked suspiciously like the deal with the devil kind of thing, like how the main character in Beowulf fucked Angelina Jolie instead of killing her, and then his dragon-spawn son came back to murder him and lay waste to the kingdom or some shit. Gaider also talked about how it was very difficult to bring that storyline back in, because people were expecting THIS baby to be the main fucking thing about a franchise lol, that it would solve everything and answer all questions, etc. But it can't be that, because it's completely determinant.
>>500371747Theres no downside at all now. Kieran does not exist.
>>500372209>since we have Inquisition and know there are no downsidesin fact there are goodsides because it means our warden's bloodline continues even after we've lost our mind to the Calling.
>>500372209The only other 'ultimate' choice back before Inquisition was to unpussy Alistair, make him marry Anora and let Loghain sacrifice himself. Had all the upsides of surving and no apparent downsides.
>>500372530The whole point of the Morrigan dlc was getting your warden out in limbo to prevent the calling indefinitely iirc
>>500372920oh I only vaguely remember most of the story beyond Origins so that's cool
>>500371958everybody wants a slice of the games-as-a-service pie because you can theoretically make a shitload of money. it was THE new trend, but the only games that actually work are call of duty, fifa, the big two MMOS, and gacha games. all other GAAS I've seen are immediate flops.
>>500370325dang, that could have been neat. no wonder it starts on "solas fucks up" which completely undermines the end of trespasser
>>500373975Bioware themselves created such a flop, even. Yet EA still wanted that shit. I wonder when they decided against it.
>>500374113I think they have part of that old idea be told in comic format. Because comics are read by that many people these days /s
>>500369759We've already heard most of it
>>500374160I read some article a while back after Anthem's flop was that the higher-ups wanted technology (an iron man simulator) that bioware simply didn't have and the pitches were done but the engines couldn't get it done so they had to devote all their time to making engines. or something. it seemed like a nightmare.
>>500374160ah, here's the article https://kotaku.com/how-biowares-anthem-went-wrong-1833731964nothing like bioware having overlong dev cycles, throwing everything out the window years after, and having your life become a crunch hell, that sure makes a good game
>>500375145But how should this make me feel?
It's been two years since my last DAO playthrough. Should I give it another go, /dag/?
>>500375939Aroused
>>500376007YesThis character is ICONIC
>>500367728Veilguard is already a financial success even if the game ends up being trash. /v/ has been saying bioware was going to fail and implode since DA2 (even ME2 to some extent). If it survived 10 years with shit like anthem failing, it's not going anywhere even if it continues in a declined state
>>500376478>(even ME2 to some extent)lolwat, you mean 3?
>>500376478Honestly Bioware probably have about as much bad will with the public as they had good will at their height. They are a nothing but deadweight slowlydrowning EA. So hopefully they stick around for a while longer and keep churning out abhorrent trash
>>500376842No, ME2. People were absolutely losing their shit over the tutorial segment and stuff like thermal clips, the game being more Gears of War than rpg, jacob the black guy party member, etc.
>>500372617>unpussy Alistair, make him marry Anora and let Loghain sacrifice himself. Had all the upsides of surving and no apparent downsides.Yeah, that's true. Kind of ties everything neatly, and leaves no possible consequences to fuck you up in the future.
>>500377236>jacob the black guy party memberI didn't even mind him, he was just boring. The gameplay was definitely a step up from ME1.
>>500372617not killing Loghain has Alistair hate the Warden though, right?
>>500377756not really
>>500377615Whatever else you can say about ME it's one of the few series where I think the gameplay actually improved with every game
>>500334493kek if you are against him doing the ritual sort of makes sense.If you are with him its utter nonsense.Then again he was friends with fucking Quentin
>>500378738Agreed. The first one is still wonky, despite improvements in LE, but 2 and 3 still hold up.
>>500371498Is being not attracted to women a logical reason? To a witch no less?
>>500379939It's not a question of attraction. It's a sacred ritual, as well as helping out a friend
imagine sacrificing your life because you're a faggot and couldn't get it up to impregnate the witch
>>500382196Couldn't be me.
A male warden is kinda right to doubt her considering her whole relationship with him started from her trying to seduce him for the ritual. At least the female warden knows they have a genuine friendship.
>>500382002>It's a sacred ritual,Having sex.>>500382002>as well as helping out a friendFriends don't have sex.
>>500384168sounds like you have shitty friends
>>500291890>>500292717Romancing Leliana and then dying to Archdemon always felt like the worst and absolute most painful thing you could do to her
>>500382196If she wants the seed so bad she can use a Turkey baster.
>>500384193In what scenario do friends have sex? No less to "help" one another. Are these "friends" of yours of the opposite sex?
>>500331390>Warden excuses himself out of the plot so he doesn't need to deal with all these retards and can bang his waifu in peacesounds like a reasonable thing to do
>>500384202I feel bad for her in general. Even when they're both alive they get immediately called off to separate parts of the world for the next 10 years and she gets manipulated into becoming a killer again. If the warden hadn't found the cure they would've died without ever even being able to be together for real.
At least Bioware will be dissolved after this.
>>500385261At the very least they get together in her villa after Inquisition. Something of a happy ending after so much bullshit. But then again, Warden can't catch a break either, constantly having to deal with more and more trouble, year after year.By the time Leliana and Warden meet again, one has to imagine they just take a moment to sit together in silence and stare into the distance with mildly dead-inside expressions on their faces.
>IGN gives a 9>review by xer/xheit's gonna be complete dogshit, isn't it? after da2 I don't trust bioware at all
>>500386838I agree with that review so it isn't a shill
>>500313032>>500313284Same reason Sten just looks like a guy with jaundice in Origins?
I want to rape the chink elf.
Jizzing on Harding's freckled face
Cant wait for the sex scene from Disney's Pixar Dragon Age.
>>500390329Only for the Qunari and Warden Elf. Everyone else gets nothing.
>>500390329bet there isn't even any naked booba because that would be problematic
I kinda want to torture her. Like, in a good way. Well, not like, torture her in a good way, I just mean my wanting to is a compliment to her.
Nooo, it's over
>>500308048>Is this the end of our IP?Maker I hope so
>>500308048Its actually a return to form
>>500359312DAO is the best one. It's flawed but it's positives far outweigh the negatives and the Origin system is legitimately amazing. Nothing like it has been done since which is a shame, the story is straightforward but the charm of the characters keeps things moving and the gameplay, while jank, is open ended enough that experimentation feels rewarding and becoming a literal God regardless of class is very funnyDA2 sucks. It has amazing ideas for story, characters, and tone but falls on its face in regards to all 3. The gameplay being ass is well documented. DAI has good ideas, and high moments. The gameplay is the best in the series but it's bogged down by tedious maps and boring enemies, the story fucking sucks and the villain is a joke. Some of the companions are alright while others are irredeemably bad, worst of all Inquisition is held down by some absolutely baffling design decisions like the fucking Wartable. DA2 should be inarguably the worst in the series but some of DAI's decisions really give it a run for its moneyVeilguard looks like it'll be absolute dogshit but I doubt it'll be worse than DA2. It'll probably be worse than DAI
Carver is for onee-san Hawke pussy only.
>>500367380I'm expecting something similar to Flemeth in DA2:>Hi it's me, major character from the previous games. I have saved you from a horrible fate now I must leave and never be spoken of again, my marital and mental status are intentionally ambiguous and I need to take care of my son/swamp hut of cats
>>500386838There are several negative youtube reviews that go fairly in-depth about what they disliked unlike the fucking IGN and Eurogamer reviews that give it completely hollow praiseThe only thing even the negative reviews liked are the last few hours of the game. But they trash all other content extensively.
https://youtu.be/CYzTNy1y7KU?t=896
>>500396857Not even>I don't carebaka
>>500396857It makes sense that she doesn't want to use the qun word for it and not all of this is as bad as I assumed it would be but jesus christ there were so many more natural feeling ways of doing this than just using the modern term
>>500396857ewww
just one more dayI'm so fucking excited bros
I feel so depressed thinking that we'll never get anything like Origins again.Was reading the codex after finishing my playthrough and saw this line:>"Here with you, knowing the freedom of the road... and the uncertainty of tomorrow... I feel alive again"Fuck. Current Bioware could never write something so moving.
>>500400541>so moving
>>500400604It is when you realize it's a quote from one of your companions.I loved that Morrigan romance ending slide too about that ring she gives you. Such a great fucking game.
>>500396857Jesus fucking christ, this garbage seems 10x worse after finishing Origins. WHY DID I EVEN CLICK
>>500398885>Isabella misgenders shehulk and then proceeds to do pushups as apology in the single most cringe inducing way possible>not all of this is as bad as I assumed it would beYou're out of your fucking mind
>>500400541the codex changing depending on character outcomes was neat. "X character decided to leave after a disagreement or was fucking slain by the Warden" etc etc
>>500401086Not all of it implies that some of it is still that bad
>>500401086>actually havin a character prostrate themselves in apology >when it shouldn’t have gone beyond >misgendered? my mistake anyway get over it we have more important things to discuss
Is it true you can't give rude or negative responses in veilguard?
>>500402245>>500375145
I guess we now know why they removed the companion dismissal mechanic.
>>500375145So yet again, what you click isn't what you get
>>500375145>>500402554>click dialogue choice>your character proceeds to read out exactly what you just selected word for word>end up skipping dialogue constantly because you already know what they're gonna sayHow does this sound better? At least they are mixing it up to keep you on your toes when you select things.
>>500365581god it sounds so shit and its not even out yet
>>500402806Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>500402873then stop shitposting and respond to what I said? This argument goes all the way back to Dragon Age 2 and also Fallout 4 btw. Nothing has changed.
>>500402806You have to be 18 to post here.
>>500402806>>500402953The answer is most people here would probably prefer they just do it like they did in Origins: full dialogue with no voice.
>>500403000that's obviously better. I'm just being devil's advocate for the voiced protag meme argument.
>>500402806The real answer is that probably at some point some focus group preferred having voiced dialogue be a surprise instead of having it all read out and now we're stuck with it.Why we can't have a deus ex type wheel so they can just do both I'll never know
>>500402953Voiced protagonists are a cancer for substandard developers of the rpg genre. Make them voiceless with full dialogue choice. Todd righteously got shit on for fallout 4’s system because it was a regression in every way. The fact that they almost doubled down and tried again for starfield before someone slapped some sense into him and course corrected is one of the small victories in the entire history of that bottom of the barrel studio
>>500403137>at some point some focus group preferred having voiced dialogue be a surprise instead of having it all read outYes, that definitely sounds better and less awkward.>>500403284agreed.
I preordered it since I've always been a dragon age fan and I assumed it would be like inquisition (not as bad as people say) but all of the videos posted are bad. The dialogue is bad, the Taash stuff has all been bad. I'm legitimately considering cancelling the day before it comes out. Everyone talks in an unrealistic manner and even the Harding romance scene was stupid, and she was a returning character I was looking forward to. Nothing so far has been positive. I like Solas and his story and that was one of the reasons I was excited for it but nothing about him has been positive either, he's not even being talked about. "I'm so sorry for misgendering you!!" as if that's how people are in real life instead of just saying "yeah okay" and moving on.I never expected it to be this bad. But on the other hand, I know how you people are, which means I'm seeing the worst of it cherrypicked and then repeated over and over. So the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.Either way, it's really a shame a once beloved franchise is now a mouthpiece for current year politics and characters act unrealistically in order to set an "example" of how the director wants people to act towards him in real life basically. It's just so lame and masturbatory. I just want to play a fun rpg with believable characters.
>>500403820cancel that shit anon. You can wait a few days to watch a youtuber play some of it before spending your money.
>>500396857>no attempt at even a hint of subtly >just a flat out assault and aggressive berating of the mother character>immature passive aggressive tantrumIt's almost like whoever wrote this couldn't remove themselves or projecting their non issues onto their pet character
>>500403998b-but then he wont get the Dragon Age Origins themed armour set for his Veilguard 'Rook'it had the bloody dragon splash image, remember that?
>>500402806The variation should come from the reaction to what you select, not in randomly changing the dialogue for the line you clicked.
Another problem is that even if you have moment where Rook actually gets angry he's got the most passive neutral face imaginable. Even Inquisition managed to have characters look pissed.
>>500405973ooh yeah, remember old Bioware? remember David Gaider...
The Taash stuff and the Harding scene were pretty cringe. I'm hoping Neve is the mature one of the group and has a more tasteful story.
>tumblr biodrone takes over dragon age>delivers the final blow to the studioyikes
Are you just stuck with all the companions or can you get some to leave like in actual dragon age games?
>>500391710Leliana looks kinda whack in that dress.
>>500406870>tumblrDude, tumblr has been dead for ages. No these people are even worse than tumblerites.
>>500407592Do I really need a notification for this?
When I saw that the director was a tranny, I said to myself "no, I will not assume the worst. That would be unfair, and I would be judging a book by its cover. I will give it a chance". At this point, after watching the Taash video and seeing the tone of the game conveyed through the dialogue and romance snippets we've seen, I feel like it would have been justified to assume the worst all those months ago. It legitimately feels like a shallow and hamfisted mouthpiece for select political views at the expense of a believable organic world, which is a grievous sin for a writer. I actually enjoyed DA2 and Inquisition, I have a pretty high tolerance for jank, but this type of blatant disregard for writing quality in order to just set up setpieces to convey your real life political views is so far beyond what is okay. I am happy to accommodate new or inexperienced writers who are earnest and trying to make a believable story and simply having trouble. But what I can't abide is when they don't even try, when making a believable story isn't even on the table, the game is actually just a mouthpiece for your own personal opinions. It's a shame these people are allowed to progress all the way to writing positions on multimillion dollar games and no one along the way had the gumption or the authority to intervene and say the product suffers if the writers are just using it as a mouthpiece. I know it's trite to bring up the Tolkien quote, but it really does explain one of the main issues with contemporary writing, which is that people are losing sight of making a believable world in favor of some external agenda. There's no passion for the work itself for the sake of itself anymore, it's seen as a vessel for my opinion.There's my rant as an older fan of the franchise seeing these videos. No one cares or going to read it but whatever.After saying all that I'm still going to play it, on the off chance that we've just seen the worst of it and the rest is ok. Optimism.
How are Emmerich and Lucanis? They seem cool at least. What about the nog elf Gray Warden? I'm hoping at least a few companions are tolerable. Harding seems ok.
>>500407592>>500407659this would be a cool feature if it was in the first 3 games tbdesu...
>>500407989It was. Garrus and Tali hook up if you don't hook up with either of them, and so do Torian and Mako. Bioware does this all the time.
>>500407815I cared and I read it :)
Has armor pop in always been this bad in origins? It’s ridiculous how bad the draw distance is for character models
>>500407887Emmerich is like that dapper sophisticated gentleman, who just so happens to be a necromancer and has a skeleton butler. Part of me wonders why they didn't just make him Cassandra's uncle.
Origins is my favorite and my best, but Im watching all this Veilguard stuff and cant help but think "Man, Inquisition was really good, huh"
>>500408439Nope, inquisition is still dogshit and barely acceptable as a product
>>500408439Inquisition's issue was always the quasi-MMO crap (and Sera), I don't remember it being bad, just nowhere as good as DAO.
>>500408202>Garrus and Tali hook up if you don't hook up with either of themWhich is probably a relatively minor group of players
>>500408439Inquisition is masterpiece in comparison, largely because it allows for some asshole choices and you can actually piss off your companions (also always send Sera away, so Bioware was definitely aware she's a controversial character).
>>500408962I was too busy shamelessly lusting over EDI's ass to romance anyone else in ME3
>>500409153>send Sera awayI prefer to just leave her in skyhold, never spoken to
I remeber playing origins on my ps3 when Ixwas a lad. The choices back then seemed a lot more black and white. Like, obviously saving the mages is the good guy choice. Now that Im older Im kinda all.... IDK, the templars kinda have a point... and really, whats so bad about siding with the werewolves?
>>500409278I recruit her, and then tell her she’s ideologically ass backwards and have her fuck off forever
>>500408962I think you overestimate the amount of people who aren't going to go for the generic blue alien
>>500409768I recruit her and then shes my best friend
>breeches
Does veilguard even have an approval system
>the most conventionally attractive and feminine>no cringe videos about her when Taash and Harding both doSo far it's looking like Neve is the way to go
>>500409809And I think you underestimate the amount of women who wanted to ride that Turian dick. I was relating that to the amount of players who were romancing Garrus, which is absolutely up there with Liara. Tali probably comes as a distant third though.
>>500410081but dwarven shortstacks make my pp harding
>>500410048>thinking you’d be able to roll a character that might ingratiate to some characters and isolate or outright displace others You’re pigeonholed into being a day care worker under the delusion that your party are all equals
>>500410081Her voice actor is hot https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3708145/
>>500410081She's the obligatory cripple character. Nah, I think I'd rather fuck fantasy Andrew Ryan.
>>500410048You have the hollow skinsuit of one, since it's apparently nigh impossible to piss off the group.
>>500410081she's brown
>>500410409Cripples are hot
>>500410081Not gonna lie, visually I like the elf since I'm into asian chicks. But the quirky personality is probably going to be a deal breaker. And that's on top of the chance she doesn't even seem to have a kiss. What in the ever loving fuck.
>>500410531Indians were the OG Whites
>>500410561t. Katawa shoujo player
>>500410789Those cripples aren’t mature enough
I wanna push her down and run a longsword through her gut pinning her to the ground, then rape her to death as she screams and cries.
>>500411000KS unironically has better and more mature writing than BioWare has ever been capable of. Let’s not kid ourselves
>wake up>step out to smoke>open phone>see this>day ruined
>>500411305That’s more damning than saying every dialogue encounter is like HR is in the room. It really is bottom of the barrel
Im buying it, setting a timer for 1hr 30mins, then refunding it unless it convinces me not to.
>>500411920The only decent part is the final gauntlet so you might as well spare yourself the headache lol
>>500412093But this way Ill be able to leave a negative review.
>>500411492Dialogue option on the well: "You idiot!"What Rook actually says: "Hey, you!"Veilguard is a Christian minecraft server
>>500411920can you get a refund on prepurchases?
>>500412210Oh, true. I'll do that as well.
>>500412238No, but you can learn a valuable life lesson
>>500411109>then rape her to deaththat's not easy to do at all
>>500412758It is when shes impaled on a sword that makes her wound bigger with each thrust of the rape.
>>500411123I’m saying they’re too young for me anon
When he gets out of this silly dwarf prison, he's going to absolutely destroy Morrigan. And maybe Leleina in about 8-12 hours.
>>500412225Weirdly hostile out of left field attack, but ok.
do i get to pick if I'm a bottom so I can get pegged by Taash?????? cmon bioware do the thing
>>500413907HR fags all speak like priestssorry if that hurt your feeble feelings, christcuck, go play your pixar qunari now
>>500414689>implying Ok underage
>>500414689>christcuckgo back to redd*t
>>500410081nigger the only good companions are the dwarf and the necromancer, rest go in the TRASH
How come we no longer have evil companions? BioWare couldn’t handle role playing in an rpg? Are they that incompetent? Oh wait they have been since about 2004
>try to think back to a good bioware rpg besides DAO>realise hordes of the underdark was from 2003jesus christ
Its over...
>>500404697Whoever wrote this (I can’t remember their name) has already admitted they drew from their actual real life experience. The video got removed, and I’m sure coming out as nonbinary to your family can be very hard, but I’m cis and occasionally get misgendered due to short hair. a quick misgender is pretty easily brushed off if someone apologizes and doesn’t harp on it like people here do
I know every bioware game really only has one companion that appeals to me (ME2 had two, garrus and thane) but the Vincent price necromancer seems head and shoulders above everyone else
>>500292893God how perfect the blend of fantasy and practical that armour is, especially the Cailan version. I wish I had a figure of it IRL to display
>>500403820Real talk if someone irl is misgendered it’s usually a quick “oop, sorry” and we all go on with our lives.
>>500403820Writing was on the wall as soon as "Corinne" was revealed to be the game director 2bh
Is there some reason why Bioware has abandoned efforts to appeal to gay guys entirely? It seems everyone just cares about the T and women acting like snowflakes now.
>>500418340Gay guys just really dont care.
>>500418340because they're not as trendy to advocate fortroons will get the same treatment when they start pushing P
>>500403820I'd just pirate it. Giving them money just signals to them that you want more of this.
Miss me yet?
>>500418838Absolutely fucking no.
>>500396857The video was struck down by EA. What did I miss?
>>500418439and all the fags that did care just trooned out
>>500418838Only when Im not playing Inquisition
>>500418838hideous creature
>>500418340The three dudes in veilguard got a lot of marketing thoughProbably more than the women
>>500418838We have Bellara
>>500419087Im cisgay but troon out in game just because I dont care and wanna romance Alistar.
>>500418838She's a femchud when you think about it
>>500419182None of them have the sort of archetypes that are appealing to gay guys. Maybe just Davrin, and even then not by much. Iron Bull and Dorian were a lot more blatant in what they were going with.
>>500414689>HR fags all speak like priestsKek no, priests are much more eloquent since they recieve education aimed at making them good at talking
>>500419353I've played male and female characters to befriend or romance Alistair just because he's my favorite character honestly, as a straight man.
Gentle buck breaking of Davrin's bussy while Taash watches.
>>500419470I don’t think iron bull was ever particularly popular with gay men
>>500419991>TashSo do they have a penis or not?
>>500420075I remember him being popular with women shipping him with Dorian, but, as discussed earlier, felt like it only had one “good” option for a gay romance - dorian.
>>500420132They have hexadecimal reproductive parts
>>500420210I just rolled a fem elf and romanced Solas
>Having a huge, gross, crass faggot who wants nothing more than to tie you up and gape your hole isn't "appealing to gay men" enoughYou'll never be happy.
>>500420592Pretty sure mostly troons and pretroons liked Bull
So was it bullshit that only a couple of companions have sex scenes or not?
I actually liked Dorian as a character in inquisition.
>>500420514Objectively the best romance option in inquisition, I did the same.
>>500420891I did too but I forgot he was in the game multiple times. His quest is too over and done with too quickly and too irrelevant to the rest of the story. But I was actually touched at how close he and the Inquisitor become. The thought of them keeping in touch for moral support and stuff was nice.
>>500420891I think most people did
>>500420891Dorian is great. My only real problem is that I wish his quest had more to it.
>>500420891Same, he was one of my favorites.
>>500420891He was cool! Unfortunately I didn’t get to use him much because my inquisitor was a mage and so was solas
>>500421962You mean so was vivienneyou didn't actually use that bum solas over herRIGHT?
>>500421962I played a mage and took Solas, Dorian and Cass
>>500422026That "bum" was actually rich, unlike that frenchfag
>>500421962That’s why you play a knight enchanter do you can tank
>>500420891He’s great and is my inquisitor’s best friend
I always took Solas and Cole because they have secret knowledge about stuff that's going on and I always wanted to hear their takes.
>>500422263I forced Solas and Sera to hang out because I like to see them bicker.
>>500422382Same. I like how Sera handled herself. She could wind up pissing Solas off even when he started it first.
>>500418838I usually hate these womanchild characters Bioware comes up with, but Sera was actually the most tolerable of them.
>>500423162I think Sera just has a weird and obnoxious way of speaking but once you parse through it you realize she's not actually retarded.
It's nice that all Dragon Age fans can meet up again to reminisce around the Veilguard dumpster fire
>>500418838Yeah actually. She was annoying and ugly you could be mean to her. She had major flaws and wasn’t validated for her mere existence like Traash is
How did it get to this?
>>500423602couple thousand years of women being repressed got us here, anon
Is there any banter at all in DAV?
>>500423602I hate how a man wrote this. It's really blatant misogyny getting a pass because there's a layer of troonshit over it.>You're not acting like a woman in the "RIGHT WAY" so you should just not be one anymoreUplifting. Stunning AND brave.
>>500423602They’re not beating the nonbinary misogyny allegations, huh
>>500423602This was written specifically to contradict Sten, wasn't it? Wait, nevermind, the writers don't know who that is.
>>500423719yes, but it's along the lines of>you should try these cookies, they're much better than those lame ones you like
>>500420891Usually hate gay shit in Vida, but he’s probably the best and most realistic portrayal I’ve seen, while Traash is very likely going to be the absolute worst.
>>500423856I think writers drawing from their personal experiences can enhance the character - like Dorian - but you have to be a good writer to not flop the execution. Gaider was who kept BioWare afloat. He really was a standout
>>500423704moar like>one hundred years of women being not repressed got us here, anon
>>500423736Yeah nobody is gonna call out the misogyny besides like here lol….
>>500422572My favourite is when he tries to coach her on doing a revolution and she accidentally humbles him a bit.
>>500423704This is your brain on homosexuality
>>500424020Women couldn’t have their own bank accounts in America until 50 years ago, c’mon man
>>500424154Makes you think, really.
>>500423736The entire point of this line is that it’s an obviously ridiculous thing to say though
>>500424347I guaran-fucking-tee you not one character in this game points out that her ideology is ridiculous.
>>500372617I always thought that even this was a bad decision, though. Or putting Alistair on the throne in general. If you harden him he does relatively well, whether he's ruling with Anora or not.But didn't they say at some point that Grey Wardens have insanely low fertility rates? Maybe not in Origins, I forget, but still. With that knowledge you're putting a figurehead on the throne that might never be able to have an heir, merely delaying the ongoing issue of who reigns by having a man rule with a guaranteed shorter lifespan than most regents except Cailan
>>500423602Nobody?A lot of men love being women.
>>500423704Nah, having monthly cramps must have always sucked, regardless of supposed repression.
>>500424437Her ideology isn’t that everyone hates being a woman though. Like it’s obviously just her being a retard and assuming that everyone has the same brain problems she does. Someone already posted the scene in context.
>>500425167Can you call her out at all for being mentally ill?
>>500425462Ask yourself if bioware ever let you say>ewwww fags are disgusting
>>500425167>Her ideology isn’t that everyone hates being a woman though.I didn't say it was.
>>500426035Grim.
>>500426035>No option to convey indifference
>>500426035fucking corpospeak, I can't even say no
>>500426035AIEEEE DON'T HURT ME TAASH
>>500426035This is rape
>>500426352>it's the suitsAttacking the betters of creatives doesn't mean the creatives aren't shitters. Any the fact you have to press a button to interact with a character, to confirm you want to start a dialogue to enter a cutscene is beyond mind boggling.
>>500421962eh, I played a mage and took him and Solas everywhere anyway
https://files.catbox.moe/ivszot.mp4I don't know, man.
>>500426831>4. You're NOT in control. You need to see a therapist.
>>500426035>Yes >Yes>Yes >Yes
>>500426831I wish if they were going to railroad you like da2 they’d at least do the da2 personality system too
>>500390969she has the same facial proportions as charlie kirk
idgaf about all this nonbinary stuff I NEED the harding sex scene
>>500426831>you're on a knife's edge>you're wildly unhinged and downright scary>please remember I was always nice to you during your next temper tantrumI've decoded the writer's room.
>>500427249Her face isn’t nearly small enough
>>500427442She only has a kiss from what I heard. Gaider won.
>>500427442There’s no sex scene. Only Taash and Davrin have them.
>>500427587NOOOOOOOOOOO
If half of Isabella's lines aren't about sex I'm going to be mad
>>500427572>She only has a kiss As long as we're both standing, it's fine
>>500427587Rest in peace to the geriatric fuckers
>>500426941it feels like I'm watching an after school special, jesus christ this dialogue is horribly written and condescending
wow guysare you ready for the next thread?it's going to be released during that thread's lifetime
>>500427587Ugly and ugly, amazing work bioware
>>500427587>Not even a Neve sceneIf true, it's fucking over
>>500426941>No sex scene with IsobelaTraash game
>>500428063Has anyone even posted anything from her romance
>>500428071can't have that without my hawke there to watchthat's the agreement
>>500428172No, nobody is talking about her
>>500428361One can only assume from that the Jeet has rather wholesome content, while being binary
>>500428361Makes sense people picked Harding I guess
>>500426941is it possible for da to sink even lower than this
>>500429142If that's your viewpoint, then this is the perfect game, since it can only get better from here
>>500429142Yes. Theres no deep roads level.
>>500429265Or it will just end. On this.
>>500429528I can't tell if this was meant to be a pun or not
>>500429265It's true. EA will finally righteously shitcan and blacklist the current creative team(s)
>>500430547>>500430547>>500430547Fresh baked bread.
>>500423445troo, I miss bullying her
