Fashy vnd Freshy!
>you arrive in darkshorevgh.... sovl ..........
>dual spec>f*shykeep lying to yourself lol
a toast! to wowo wawa!
Healers won bigly...?
Gave up on pvpGot to ashenvale and am getting corpse camped by skull level alliance>making a male human warriorLet's see how many healers suck me off should sleep since I have toil in the morning and am eufag but holy shit I want to kill Hogger
>>503527546>dual specwhere?
>fresh already dead after 3 daystestaments
is warrior really that bad to level solo, with the occasional dungeon?is ret paladin really completely useless for raiding? how about leveling solo and dungeons?
>>503527712this a new world record?
>the five seconds rule
I want a build that will let me fill any role, heal tank or dps.which one of these would do that best?
How are spells getting resisted on mobs a level lower than me if I have 4% hit from talents?
prepare to be KNOTTED no shoe niggers!
>>50352793999% chance is max lol
>>503527772i think the other freshes like som, sod and hardcore all died much faster
>skibidi kurwa [redacted] spamming the board with aislop again
>>503527519I always wondered why Darkshore felt like a more complete experience compared to most other zones
can I find a GAM fem humie to play with here? hello? must be futanari
>>503527939there is always 1% chance to be resisted no matter what and some mobs have high resistances against certain spell schools (game is retarded and shows both actual resists and misses as resist)
>>503528078>GAMdunno what that means desu
>>503528172it's an xivg meme that means grown ass man
>do a full level in north STV around nesingwary camp>not a SINGLE noshoes attacked me???
>twitch frogez skip
>>503528212I see? should I even ask why you know this anon...? Post your catgirl though I'll masturbate to it
>>503528578I play Viera
>>503528684Ok. I did too but I just like catgirls, I wouldn't play one though
thought this place would be more lively but it's just dead af lolso much for those fresh servers you've been barking about for 5 years LMFAO
>>503528876>dis bot againAYYY NIGGA LMAO
>>503527961Wish that was me...t. lvl 27
>>503527939Also at level 60, bosses have an innate amount of spell resistance that there's absolutely NOTHING you can do to get rid of. Spell pen from gear, nor warlock curses meant to reduce resistances have no effect on it. This is why you see partial resists. It's one of the big reasons why playing a caster sucks absolute dick on SoD. They did nothing to remove these partial resists meanwhile giving all melee access to weapon skill and now expertise.
Newbie question but how hard is it to get into guilds/raiding without being 100% meta, like if my tank warrior is a dwarf instead of a human or if my profession isn't engineering, will I have trouble finding a guild?
>>503528969I'm 25, what serv you on anon?>>503529048always dadguilds that would take you anon
>>503529048No. You wont get into a sweat guild but those arent fun to play in anyway. Classic is an easy AF game people dont need to meta chase
>>503528968not a bot, I'm just playing better MMOs like TWW and XIV suck my dick
>>503528684is that you mowglii you lil bitch
>>503527934>dps lol
>>503528684I didn't check SS before replying, but god I don't miss that mode. Met the most autistic people while ranking to crystal, everyone was miserable
ffxiv trannies are like actual parasitesclinging on to every other mmorpg general, trying to kill them off
>>503527934Just wear the goddamn dress.
>>503529441>clinging on to every other mmorpg generalWhat other MMORPGs have generals besides WoW and FFXIV?
>>503529170>better MMOs like TWW and XIVill give you retailbit zeev?lmfao get real nigga>>503529441well they sure cant play their dead dogshit gamethe worst part about it is they always have to tell you they're a trannyits pathetic
ret male dworf paladin
>>503529092Spinechudder
>>503529207literally who>>503529320I heard it got worse. I am not subbed so I I couldn't say, but I enjoyed it. I met a lot of friends playing CC, and I kind of miss it.
>>503529646Oh okay, what class anon?
>>503529635female
>>503529582sors
>>503529760Chudlock
>>503527934the rule of thumb is you need 20/0/0 to heal
How much should I charge my party for summons and health stones?
>>503529751I didn't meet any, I met some in FLs though. I didn't rank to crystal ever again, just the 2nd rank or whatever that you needed for the glam stuff>>503529827Ah cool, I'm just starting duskwood
>>503529048The larger mainstream playerbase will reject you the vanilla community is garbage who want to minmax a 20 year old solved game, you can just join a casual/dad guild though, like literally just say in trade/recruiting "looking for non sweat dad guild with raids between x and y times" and you'll find onedad guilds are unironically cozy and fun to play with, mine spent like an hour this morning talking about pizza chains while chilling in WC and SFK then old anime they had seen on vhs back in the day
I told ya niggas to go east asia and fuck some cute bugs. but y'all like>no dude I gotta play this fresh you dont understand
>>503529881built for BGC (big greymane cock)
>>503529881as a tank if you try to charge me for a summon or a healthstone I will choke you with my cock until you pass out then use your throat as my own personal onahole
Orc women owe me sex
>>503529582ESO GW2 runescape BDO maplestory second lifeswtor has one on vm because it was so dead on vg
>>503529957Are you on NA PvE Alliance? I'm looking for a casual guild myself.
Any parsers calculated how much extra dps your average raid gets from the debuff limit removal?
>spent 25 minutes helping people kill goldtoothokay I need to sleep
Dwarf women owe me sex
>>503530316That's sovl
so by the time we reach wrath can we pull more than one mob and not die?
I owe troll women sex
Tauren women owe me sex
>>503530429Can already if you didn't fail at toon creation
Tauren women owe me a bed time story and a kiss good night
>>503530429Wrath killed the game, so yes.
>>503530429Most classes can do that nowOnly one I can see having any sort of issue would be warrior if you have a shit weaponI've been doing 2 mobs every time and I'm only level 11
>>503530128Yeah I joined a casual guild from the pve discord, they're not planning to raid for a bit but I'll probably pug with a few of them since they seem nice
I fuck fat girls IRL all Tauren females owe me ERP
I think I'm just bad at leveling, sure I wasn't here for the first 30 hours of launch but I'm only 25 now and I see people on mounts all the time
MC and Ony aren't even in the game yet. Why rush to 60?
>>503530890Socks just know the poop sock routes and have friends to aoe grind them up
Do not find tauren attractive but I do REALLY REALLY like centaurs, we need a hot centaur race
>deletedthat image was SFW.
>>503531140How do I get a healer that will rp this after dungeons?
Dreamscythe Horde PvE is kinda bussin 10,920 players, you told me horde pve was gonna be dead, the heckin.stay/vun
>>503531382By telling server / faction, none of you ever do
>1fp
>>503531446low rogue numbers
such a persistent twat
>2fp
uh oh! filterjeet melty!!
>twitchfrogez skip
See this is why no one likes failed namefags
>>503531790Noshoes only play it to gank in redridge, it was the most popular class on horde pvp I think? Or maybe warrior beat it out slightly
I just like healing, why do i have to be a sissy?
>>503532260>I just like servicing cocks why does that make me gay?
What happened to all the schizo streamers from phase 1 SoD they're the only things that made this general bearable
>>503532325yeah why?
>>503532360because you're the one servicing the cock, if your cock was being serviced you wouldn't be the gay one
>>503532489why is it gay?
>>503532260you dont but you have to play rsham or hpalif you play priest or druid its over for you
>>503532554because gay sex is gay
Classic is just such a depressing and lonely game. Sorry, but I'd rather not die alone. Imagine wasting your time killing animals for hours and hours a day, all alone, while no one acknowledges your existence. Might as well read a book or play a single-player game.
>>503532843but it's not gay sex
>>503532803how is priest sissy when theyre the only ones able to create mindcontroled slaves
>>503532879proof?
>>503532260this is how you pay for a NY loft without roommates btw
>>503532990You're not taking it up the ass, you're performing a service. If your doctor had to touch your dick that would just be his job too
>>503533095you're not taking it up the ass when you're sucking a cock either but that's still gay
>Thought people were memeing about Paladin specs>Got told multiple times even by guild to go holy paladin instead of trying to tankI should have just played warrior
>>503533174>5 years of people talking about it endlessly wasn't enough for himman you guys are slow
>>503531080>we need a hot centaur race
>>503533326same
>>503533326oh. I play on the schoolshooter server sorry..
>>503533384But are you a humie that fucks dogs?
>>503533174Just wear dresses
>>503530890I just reached lvl 19. But I’ve never played wow and I’m not using questie.
>>503533545nyes. Well I play nelfie too
>>503530890Have only seen 1 mount on NA pve
there was a smol streamer nelfie hunter who had a <DND> GOING FOR WF 60 but he's not online anymore ......... F
>>503533739thank you for blogging
>fly to wetlands
>>503533725I play PvP there's a fair bit, even warriors on mounty
>>503533718name? I can reroll...
>>503532873My girlfriend acknowledges my existence by yelling at me for playing wow 16 hours a day
>>503532873I am playing with my dad guild and gf thoughbeit
>>503533801:3
>>503532873Why is killing animals for hours in an MMO a waste of time, but it isn't in a single-player game? What if I read a book about someone killing animals?
why did baldman quit and refused to play freshie?is he afraid of outing himself as a shitter again?
>>503533872Do not reroll on the schoolshooter server. This is better than anything you could hope for in-game
>>503532873all this grandstanding and philosophizing doesn't make sense to meit boils down to>imagine having fun doing the thing i do not find funwow ok don't do it then, who cares
>>503534418Please this is the most important thing to me!
>>503532873>4 insta 'niller replies justifying their addiction
why is the thread so fucking dead when fresh launched 3 days ago? SoD launch was 3x as active
>>503534839Interesting variation on the spam but try a bit harder
>>503534839no cluethe threads were moving so fast pre launch and now we're back to the same velocity of the retail thread, and they have no content rn
>>503534839SoD was a new and cool thing until we saw how shitty the devs vision were.
>>503534839the honest truth is that we're all expecting underperforming class balancing fixes for classic again, a MAJORITY of the specs in classic are non-functional. people don't want to sweat/meta, they just want to play as the spec they like and be functional.
Gross
>>503534967im sure your vision was better
>>503535043my vision is better than yours, 4eyes
>>503534839>Why aren't people shitposting in the thread 24/7 when the server came out and people are playing the game again?
>>503529237nobody is parsing dungeons.ok, maybe somebody is, I should say nobody relevant is parsing dungeons.>>503529519>burp>>503529875in dungeons?
>>503535367ancient cope
>>503534839Because people are busy playing the game, there's nothing to discuss that hasn't already been discussedSoD had a lot of discussion because it was retail packaged into the classic world and there was something new to talk about
>>503534839I literally just now checked it. I haven't been here since before the launch because I've been playing. MMO players hyperfocus, tourist.
is there any way to circumvent the retarded trading restrictions on new players?
>>503534839Holy moly this one rustled them up a lot
>Semi-casual guild>Semi-hardcore guildWhat's the difference
>>503535998nothing
>people are busy playing the game bro, that's why the thread is so dead>but then how come it was 3x as active during sod? weren't they playing the game then too?>.....
>>503535998Neither really exists both are bait
>Didn't have much time to play this week>lv 12 on PVP serverGo on without me, anon. I will corpse run all the way to 60
>game loads into era servers by default every timewhy
>>503535998One is a chill guild that tries to do something more every now and then without expecting resultsThe other is a toxic hellhole full of bitter fucks who know they aren't good enough to be fully hardcore and has the GM/officer throwing a fit every time you don't perform like a world first raider
How's destruction lock leveling compared to drain tanking? I feel like dead weight in dungeons when mobs die faster than dots run out.
>>503536263You have to pick anni servers from launcher
>>503536263You launched with the wrong dropdown menu option
>>503536263sister?
How useful is +healing gear compared to intellect at low level dungeons?
>>503536445I've always preferred stats at lower levels, you're not trying to break meters, just keep up with the tank's pulls
Rank all vanilla raids from comfiest/least annoying to do to fuck this raid i dont ever wanna do it again. For me its>Ony>MC>bwl>naxx, aq40, zg, aq20 all same spot (dogshit raids)
>im a cryboomer who can't read my bnet launcher and its doing what i don't want it to do, what gives?!?!
>please please PLEEEEEAAAASE just let me have one tick off that silver mine
>cryboomyep, thats a skip
still mad over one(1) word i see
sod brought in a bunch of tourists with its le ebin classic+ and level 25 capanni isnt bringing anyone new excepy fresh junkies, it's mostly stealing mazed classic autist pop from era/sod/cata so they dont unsub
>>503537190honestly i think the level cap was the best thing they did with sod, the phases shouldnt have lasted 3 fucking months but leveling to 60 is just a daunting fucking task whether the raids dont open for 3 weeks or not
I hate these retail players who dont roll for chests and nodes!
>be me>playing ally on NA PVP>having a good time>quests take me to stonetalon>fucking 50 horde for every 1 allyoh no.oh no bros.
>>503537607That zone isnt worth it as ally, the quests suck
>>503537607>surprised the pvp faction is overpop on a pvp server
>>503537329nobody is making you run mc first resetdelay mc longer if you have to but level caps are extremely gay. all the custom soddie raids are dead content because everything gets obsoleted every phase just like retail
the benched 'do got real quiet all of a sudden
>>503537607>i went questing on a horde zone on a pvp serverwow
>>503536787bwl is the bestaq40 is the worstholy fuck aq40 trash is so bad
>>503537329It's unironically what killed sod
>>503538057Sitting on the bench of my sauna rn
After a few hours creating and deleting, I am still undecided on what color orc to make. I wish I wasn't like this.
>>503536787>the most braindead to the ones that require a slight amount of brain activity fascinating
>>503537607Stonetalon feeds directly from the Barrens and has 3x as many quests to do on their end, alliance don't have that much other than the fire crater so you don't see them often
>>503536167Because phase one sod capped at level 25 lmao. No sweaty leveling
It's over, I don't have it in me to level anymore. I will see you guys next fresh.
>>503535998One will probably DKP or SR everything.The other will attempt to LC everything to their officer core.
twins->cthun trash is singlehandedly going to kill sodsod has so many people that never raided vanilla and who has never had to deal with that horseshit
>People hit level 30>Realize how much of a slog 30-50 is>Start quittingLike clockwork.
>>503539210id rather do 30-50 than 10-3010-30 is miserable and ive done it too many timesat least you can just spam dungeons at that point
>>503539345>game is about da journey in the world>jumps into dungeon spam whenever possible
>>503539189I expect them released nerfed or nerfed the 1st week.
>>503539189There is trash between them? I know the Anubisath idols and bugs fuck you up and the eye chain wipes you but I can't remember anything between them
>>503539189why the FVCK are you playing sod sister
>>50353934510-30 is a faction problem. It's the most kino part of alliance leveling.
>rolled the wrong faction on a pvp server>now im doomed
AHEM
dont mind me. just collecting THIRTY HVMAN SKVLLS for this quest.
>>503539780imagine sweating that hard just to die to a dc lmaoo
>>503539630yeah all the gay mindslaver packsalso the stupid shit after sartura that flings you 500yd awayalso the destroyersalso the dumbass gauntletfuck aq40 desu
>>503539780AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH SHOULD'VE PETRID
Lvl 54 horde just died lol
>>503539717I wanted to be a gnome why did I get stuck with Horde...
>parasocial loser woke upit's over
im gay btw
cheers to grizzly getting btfo yet again
prove it, suck on my dong
>>503539780oh no!who would have thought this would be a waste of time?
just decided to play fresh, wanna roll pvp which faction is more juiced rn?
>>503539780good, fuck magesnone of their realm firsts should count
>>503539780Where's the clip, sis?
Gonna reroll on pvp so I can get a healslut to worship my cock
>>503540335>>503539780>poopsocking 3 days for thishttps://www.twitch.tv/ahmpy/clip/HumbleHyperPuddingMVGame-pb5eqyeCyFCTry6j
>>503540601I was telling people today this was very likely to happen. Hc aoe mages have a huge tendency to die especially because even a lag spike let alone a DC is always going to kill you
>>503538198>i went questing on a horde zone on a pvp serverhow did this happen to me
>>503540601I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. HC games are retarded because you'll often die to shit that's completely out of your control. Good for him for getting a bunch of prime subs though.
>>503539780It's funny, literally all the mages killed themselves and now only a hunter and a fucking rogue on meth are left in the race kek
>>503540871>completely out of your control Deaths to dcs happen but if you're not mid aoe pull they aren't always going to be fatal. I chose not to aoe grind past 40 for that reason.
jokerd said he would die in WPLmagies get too cocky
>>503540215post your cock anon I wanna suck it
Alliance on nightslayer US please make a bright yellow shirt and put it on BB AH. Overprice it if you want, I will buy it. Free fucking gold, idiots.
>>503541094Jokerd died to a bad pull, this is more unfortunate
>>503541204sorry but I'm built for failed males only not gays and def not women
>>503539780>speed run proposes to his gf 1 day before classic fresh release so he can poopsock the game without her leaving him>dies to pc crashing
they don't call it the filtering crusade for nothing
>>503541306I play a resto druid.
I want to play enhance shaman. How bad of a time am I going to have?
>>503540792he already dc'd once like 30 seconds before the second one that killed himhe should have just logged off for the night after the first DC
>>503541370What part of no women did you not understand
>>503541460nothing more "failed man" than a r.druid
>>503541583rdruid is THE healer of choice for women
post the troon goon roll
>>503541443you will have a fun time leveling and doing world pvp especially against casters. but at lvl 60 you won't find a raid spot. your spec is non viable for pve simple as
>>503541443you're a nightfall bitchraid leader will resent you because they would rather you be a hunter
>>503541445>car makes a loud noise before it stalls>"pffft nah its fine">starts it againnigger if it happened once you need to check what the fuck happened to begin with before you explode
>>503541443you will never get invited to raids or dungeons unless you heal
>>503541707nyot in vanilla
>>503529170>tww>shitty mazed+ season>shitty raid that only has 1 good boss and thats the final boss>XIV>more dead than SoD
>>503534839people segregated to their own guilds post launch, /vg/ has no real purpose after launch besides the occasional boilerplate shitpost
>>503541785prove you're a failed male
>>503541881I post on /wowcg/
>>503542010yeah I'm done with you, fucking hate women always trying to gobble my knob even when I say to kick rocks
>3 more levels until feign death Best spell in hc besides vanish
>GDKPs banned>all non-meta classes get fucked
speaking of non-meta specs, do they get invited to pug raids?
>trying to get group together for sfk>warrior whispers me>hey if you find a tank before this current group I'm in does I'll drop and join yours instead>you're a warrior you are the tank>UHM ACTUALLY I DON'T TANK EVER THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M COMFORTABLE WITH>put him on ignore
>>503542456Damn the game is that hard you can't clear mc without a full meta comp?
I play a TAVRBVLL Shaman on the NA Hardcore fresh realm.
>>503542658>*DCs*
>>503542591>not even playing hardcore Why don't they just tank and fill groups 10x faster? What are they risking?
Already back to playing SOD.
>>503542884I'm sure all 10 people still playing are glad to have you back
>you regen faster if you /sit
should i play sod or fresh to have fun
>>503543071you regen even faster than /sit if you /bounce on this dik bbgrl
>>503542606No, but that's how people play classicWhy would anyone invite a wheelchair class to a SR raid without getting literally anything in return? Why would anyone wanna carry a 200 dps ret pala that will take items from an 800 dps warrior?No thanks
>>503542606People want items and memespec don't pull their weight, making getting items more time consuming and they also want the items.
>>503543373Exactly like that. Musky, steamy, brain-fogging BULLSTINK ruining pretty elf makeup and turning her dumb brain to mush. The NUTMUSK fogging off my BULLBALLS humidifies the air and clouds up the windows.
>>503543196>Why would anyone wanna carry a 200 dps ret pala that will take items from an 800 dps warrior?because the paladin is going to stick around while the warrior is going to fucking dip in two weeks saying he has all his drops and he's bored so he's going to go back to making cod reaction videos
>>503543370Sounds like era isn't very fun>we need to clear the same raids we've been clearing for 15 years as fast as possible so we can get items to do it again It's not like that over here
>be me>Always think of cool names in the 10-30 minutes it takes me to fall asleep>Don't remember when I wake upBlessingofSpanktuary...? no no no too long... Worgenfreeman? Wrong expansion... Bearlover? too explicit >Rogueone >Warlocknroll >Lichplz >Evlishpresley >WorgAndPeace >Belfesteem >Plateitcool >Aggroholic >Huntergathered>Mageagainstthemacine >Gnomeyourlimit>all takenI wish I could think of a good name
>5 corpsemaker rolls lost
>>503543580Look at our cryboomer who is still speedrunning naxx on 3 different warriors
>>503543763Problem?
>>503543749For me, it's rp appropriate names or character names from books *sips* Everyone named >smellyfartzOr something like that should be permad
>>503543749Those aren't cool names anon. Why not come up with something original or even lore appropriate instead of this garbage, you can do it!
TICK TOCK ISRAELITES
do we have any realistic server numbers yet?
>>503544010Hardcore >6 million Classic era >240 thousand
>>503544010cant be more than 3000. fresh already feels so dead.
>>503544010It's a solid 10-15k per faction per side per server but the fucking layering is making it seem like it's a ghost town
>>503543996I made lore appropriate names when I was a child, I had to constantly correct peoples pronunciation, never again.
>>503544240me in the middle
>>503539420Problem is the journey becomes tedious when the quest design is obtuse (too little quests in each area, have to constantly zone hop).Might as well run a couple dungeons once you have exhausted the quests in a zone
>muh jerney!Meanwhile almost everybody uses that restedxp addon.
>>503530014I've read thousands of posts exactly like this one in recent times and quite frankly it's all so tiresome at this point
>>503544240Belted and strapped to my hairy, musky, muscular chest with your arms and legs spread wide. Kept nude and bouncing on my EQUINE SLAB of BULLMEAT. Breaking your pitiful, tiny little hole over and over as I use you as my personal DRAINSTATION.TAUR SEED flooding out of your mouth and nose. Your tummy BLOATED with sloshing bull cum. You aren't even a person anymore - you're just a trinket I equipped.
>>503544696yo dat b cuz i iz trin 2 get my dik wet
>>503544525>a real journey with death around every corner >every zone is azeroth is memorable, everything deadly is considered >group with fellow adventurers to do lethal quests >outfit your character with the tools it needs to survive, esoteric potions and engineering gadgets >dungeons require focus and cc >the farther you go the more meaningful your progress is >servers are always fresh Vs >rfk spam for 8 levels, sm spam for 10 levels >same exact shit over and over >just to get to endgame and raidlog with 30 other warriors for meaningless stat progression that literally everyone who puts in the time grind obtains >whine for your 10th fresh forever after doing all this
>1fmd5
>he's back again to flood the general about a game he doesn't playSAD
>>503545086>>503545147>>503545150>raids are progressed with intense difficulty by a tight knit group of dedicated players who all know each other It's just such a good game
>>503545086>kill green mobs until you hit 60zzzZZzzzzzZZZzz
everybody always talks about how bad paladins are and how slow they are, but there's a paladin on the pvp server keeping up with the mages for speed leveling...
>>503545339you don't play it
King's honor friend.
>>503544290The layering is insane, I don't see any large groups of players. Why can't blizzard do anything right
In order to play 2 chars at the same time do you need to have 2 subs and 2 different clients open or can you do it on the same account?
why does this retarded game not tell me to get some wand as a warlock, spent 15 levels using shadowbolt and going oom every mob. now i'm behind everyone levelling wise.
what realm do I play on?
>>503545706
>>503545392Not what anyone actually does lol>>503545469I do. I'm playing it right now on the anniversary hc realm. 1st time ever playing hunter it's awesome so far, almost at feign death and peace of mind
>>503545748play on dreamscythe there's like 2 of us here and we're both friendly
>>503545731I believe warlock has an ability called life tap that could be of interest to you but ya greater magic wand at 13 is huge
genuine question for healsissies: how do you even get enjoyment from this game? you don't get the fun of parsing in raids, your gear upgrades don't really mean shit, you can't efficiently farm gold, everyone's entire objective in PvP is to focus you ASAP. What's fun about it?
>>503545890daddy turns on my vibe
>>503536428What sorcery is this?
>>503545762ok show us
>>503545890I play hardcore and like getting everyone out alive. Bad healers get lots of people killed and I don't. I like that. It's fun gameplay
>>503545876yea i saw some faggots spamming selling that wand for 25s so i ended up buying one of the ah, life tap is good but i'd die because shadowbolt is shit compared to this new wand i got. Maybe if i play all night i'll get with the pack
This is my level 9 hunter's futureSay something nice about him
>>503546035>hardcore>healertranny
>>503543373why is a blood elf getting ravaged by a tauren bull so arousing?
gonna goon to some failed males
im at the excavation site in wetlands and literally printing free money by skinning raptors. made like 20 silver in the last hour
>>5035463795½ inches
>>503546915too big
>>503546308>him
>>503545761I saw payo doing it and was wondering if he's paying 2 subs. I thought multiboxing wasn't allowed? Not everyone knows every little shit about this game.
>leveling human rogue to play with friends>want to play orc enhance shaman>enhance isn't even good>i wouldn't be able to play with any of my friends>and yet i dont even want to play this roguehonestly i think i fucking hate this game
>>503545876Life drain is useless until you get the required talents.
>>503546308Ditch the stat stick swords for a 2h
>>503547529True but you can still use lifetap, just less
>>503547339I believe using a program to have simultaneous inputs with 1 button press on all characters is not allowed but you can have several wow windows open and manually switch between them
>>503543749>>Always think of cool names in the 10-30 minutes it takes me to fall asleepSo how is life living with full on autism? Are you coping about it?
>>503540890>rogue on methwho?
>>503545890Lovesense api to vibrate on every regen tick and crits
>>503547596no!I like the how my quiver shows when I dual wield
>>503547997
>>503547997Can I dual wield? (your cock)
How THE FUCK do you play hunter?>Have pet on defensive + follow>Monster attacks me, pet starts attack the monster>You keep running, spamming your pet to follow you>It keeps attacking the monster, completely ignoring your actionsThis shit is ass
>>503547478you hate that you're forced into a meta specyou hate that rogue is the 3rd most common class after warrior and mage, the other two meta classesyou hate that you will compete for gear with a ton of classes and specsyou hate that you can't play what you want to play because blizzard refuses to buff the underpowered classes in classic because virgin sweatlords on the internet have performed a successful psychological operation against blizzard called #nochanges
why do they do it
>>503548903Because it's on defensive you idiot, it'll automatically attack anyone who attacks you Put it on passive
>>503548903now you know just how absolutely fucking retarded someone had to be in order to unironically play a pet classlike, there must actually be something mentally wrong with people who choose to play pet classes. what's wrong with these people?
i should have gone alchemy to make elixitrs and pots
>>503548934you had your changes, it was called sodand we all know how that turned out lmfao
>>503532873This guy is right. Not gonna resub anyway
>>503545890I only heal in raids so I can get PvP gear.Once I have what I need I fuck off. I hate raiding. I hate interacting with the average wow raider. Only dungeons and BG's are fun in WoW.
>>503549195Just because blizzard is retarded and fucked up once doesn't mean things couldn't be better, tbc prepatch balancing would be good
>>503549498healing in pvp isn't fun either
has /wowcg/ consolidated on a single faction/sever yet or are you idiots still scattered all over
>>503549573>true classic+ has never been tried!
>>503547980Idk some level 48 German snorting meth live on stream. He might unironically win since rogues are faster 50-60 compared to hunters.
>>503549573This tbqh desu.
>Do DM as pala>End up having to tank>Have a priest that mind blasts on CD and literally never put two and two together on why he kept pulling threat>No taunt or sunder so my threat gen was dogshit, even with RF, ret aura, and spamming judgement on cdI never want to tank on this scuffed class again, holy shit. To think I thought tanking as a warrior was bad enough already...
>>503548903>Have pet on defensivethere's your problemput it on passiveput /petattack into a macro (or just bind the pet bar but w/e), I use alt-1 for this, crtl-1 is the default i thinkthen have alt-2 be your 'return to me' follow keybindget into the practice of sending your pet in manually, if it's on defensive it'll keep trying to defend you, crtl-2 is the default for this
>>503549701the chads are on nightslayer split between ally and hordethe pussies are playing hc or pve, and we dont think about them at all
>the entirety of this release is being propped up by hardcore streamersthis shit will be dead in < 30 days
>>503548903Keep pet on passive Create a macro /petattack Bind it to mouse scroll wheel forward Create another macro /petpassive Bind it to mouse scroll wheel backwards Now you can send your pet to attack your target with forward and recall it to you with backward. This is the way to control pet classes in classic wow Do NOT follow the meme recommendation of>macro pet attack into your damaging abilities Because very frequently you want your pet to tank a target you're not attacking
>>503549737Correct
pala chads ... im lvl 28 and it's starting to feel slow
>>503546308That's going to be 90% of our futures with the era ranking changes in from the start :)
>>503550317>1/6th of the way to 60It's going to get much worse
Yeah, I think this was the last ride for me. I got to level 33 and just thought to myself that I have zero interest in pretending to be friends with 39 people or pretending to be okay when the classic guild retard causes a mistake that wipes everyone's world buffs or pretending to care that 14 is actually meaningful like it's all just fucking nothing i just logged out and idk if i can convince myself to log back in
Should I go pvp or pve?
>>503550554Try hardcore
>>503550554buckbroken by shimmering flats
>>503550653shimmering flats is unironically my favorite zone so no that wasn't it
>>503532975just like real women
>>503550634Only enjoyable way to play in 2024Raiding is boring PvP is overratedCaring about a character as if it were a child and having a fun leveling experience, putting the RPG in MMORPG, is peak enjoyment
>>503549848VC*
>samefagging your own nigger post
>enhancement still isn't playableyeah, I'm thinking fr*sh is DOA
>>503550859Hard to care about a character on an accelerated server where we don't even know if we can keep the characters at 60 or it's direct to TBC
man im really really really regretting rolling troll priestwill it get better at 60 bros? pvp and pve
>>503550317hang in there sis!it's all gonna be worth it when you're 60 and eat out your tankbvlls ass while he steps on your tiny little useless penis
>>503551064depends. why are you regretting it?
what did he mean by this
>level 25 femhuman rogue on nightslayerconvince me not to reroll I'm having grass is greener syndrome about being on alliance
>>503551103god I wish that were me
>>503551140slow as fuck and i feel like i'll get no glory in pvp, is shadow really the beast people say it is?
>fresh didnt even last a weekholy fuck lmao
>>503551281accept the BGC and join us sister>>503551341you are a fat balding loser you will never be a woman
>>503551281you belong on the alliance sissy
>>503551370only in 1v1 duels. it's miserable in BGs
>>503551545the fuck is a bgc
>>503551684bald grey cunt
what were the scan numbers like on pvp server for alliance vs hordedo i need to reroll
>>503551005Try hardcore you'll care about your character >>503550859Even dying is sort of fun in its own way, you remember every time and it's a great social experience
>>503551724>zayavaeratranny
>none of my friends want to play classic a second time
>>503545983>>503545983>>503545983>>503545983>>503545983>>503545983
fuck it I'll play hardcore. would shaman be a bad time? maybe I'll go rogue. hunter feels like the coward's way out.
>>503527475see now this is actually hot, unlike the garbage 99% of people here post
>>503552205Rogue if you want to be wipeproof in dungeons with vanish and it's very strong overall because of vanish I love resto shaman in hc but it's one of the more difficult classes This is my first time playing hunter and it feels godmode but they have the worst stats for surviving to 60 of any class somehow
>>503552427>resto shamanew gross
peak performance
I've only gotten to lvl 16 today, should i just quit, feel like it's gonna die out anyway
>>503552118
>>503552974unironically just play hardcore. it's the same realization I had. all of the non-HC servers, or what's left of them in a few weeks, will devolve into the same old bullshit we've all played 10 times over at this point. HC is the only way you can breathe a fresh angle into this game whether you enjoy it or not. It's also the game mode with the most staying power.t. PvP server reroller
Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
>>503553189literally nothing.
>>503551370>he fell for the melting faces memeo i am laffin
>>503553120>game mode with the most staying powerHoly cope
>>503553120I've never played vanilla but it just seems like there's no hype and i feel like without hype nobody will level to 60 because it's fucking boring. Most classes are barely useful, besides having a 'lively' world this really sucks
Need a futa healslut that's in to futa on male and tops my tank
>die in fresh HC at 18>whatever Ill just keep going on the normie server>this character is for TBC anyway, it was gonna happen sooner or later>get into WC>tank is a complete dumbass who is trying to skip half the trash>the healer is too low of a level to run past the trash without pulling>wipe repeatedlymaybe its time to go agane
>>503550554Why are you taking a casual ass game so serious? Take it easy
What is hard about paladins?
>>503553120When I was a kid I had a game gear and once I beat a game a couple of times I would play with the console upside down so I would have a new challenging way to play the gameThat's what you sound like to me. I'm not 8yo anymore.
>>503553887NTA but what you just said was excessively retarded. Apologize and close this browser.
>>503551151Well, G, why didn't you ask him to find out the dirty deets?
>>503553457>besides having a 'lively' world this really sucksCorrect, which is why parsies lost the plot long ago
Imagine playing alliance more than once. The quests are just awful mindless walking.
>dr*id tries to steal my tag and failspathetic nigger
Somehow more disappointing and less popular than SoM
>>503554431Yeah but the girls are hot
>>503553975copeplaying hardcore is just a way to impose a retarded challenge on yourself to cope with the fact the game feels stale to youyou can't hold on to something forever, everything is in motion
DM literally does not need a tank, no one has any ability to hold the entire dungeon at that level either unless you are doing the slowest most careful pulls imaginable, as long as everyone is 18ish you can just 4 dps and a healer clear itanytime someone gives you some long ass greentext about tank issues in DM they're shitters for having a tank in DM in the first place
>>503554495>disappointmenthow? it's literally the same game you've been playing for 20 years
>>503554495Should've launched with TBC prepatch content and new races already in the game.
>>503554578>dual spec>welfare rank 14>layering system in overdrive so world feels deadYeah no this is the most dogshit classes launch yet
>>503554525sorry, typo *VC literally does not need a tank
>>503554525brown hands typed this post
>>503554698>lists things that aren't even impacting the game yet
>>503554525Retards are just incapable of corner pulling so the mobs are running everywhere.
It feels like classic+ is dead if they classic Fresh was only announced 1 week from launch.Feels like they fumbled SoD so hard they're like "I guess you retards don't want any changes."
>>503540601>>503539780Now this is a good Cryboom
So why is this general just hyper low effort shitposting 24/7? It's bizarre, it's like a /qa/ thread just without the wojaks.
how many of these wow streamers are actually on meth?Like graysfordays never sleeps, and jerome obviously used to tweak on stream (proly crack).
>>503554792doomposters don't play so they wouldn't know what's in on launch or not
sisters is ally dead on nightslayer? or is this just layering? every pvp zone im in is like 5-10 horde for every 1 ally
any takers? he's eager
>>503554754The game is impacted by the serves being dead as fuck and feeling dead as fuck since the layers are spread razor thin
>>503554698>>layering system in overdrive so world feels deadThis is the worst one, layers are so trash. There's a gazillion layers for the players in the pack so everyone in starting zones play almost alone already
>>503555208why do you faggots WANT to compete for nodes and mob tags just ding 60 and by then the layering will be fixed and youll settle into a guild for regular content and BGs will be open
>>503555014It's both. Pop is lower than expected but also layering is in over drive. Worst of both worlds. Fuck blizzard for making me waste time leveling in this shit
>>503554698How is dual spec detrimental to your enjoyment of the game?
>>503555303Dynamic spawn fixed this in pservs years ago.
>>503555361how much lower is alliance pop to horde pop on nigslayer
>>503555303>things won't suck when the kino leveling experience is over and ruinedYeah nah I'm just gonna get a refund on my sub
plan for tomorrow>do the low 20s quests in duskwood>do the low 20s quests in Wetlands>do Stockades>wrap up redridge + elite quests>slam rest of duskwood then wetlands>do the rest of ashenvalea happy day awaits for when i wake up>remember i have a retail raidfuck i hope someone no-shows and it gets cancelled
>>503555523Unfortunately, I don't think they'll hand you 15 dollary doos back like that
You! Yeah, you.You need to kill yourself RIGHT NOW.
>>503555523>competing with chinese bots on hunters for mob tags is kinohm hm. yes i SEE
ahmpybwos...
>>503555701No one will be there to help you with elites anymore.
>>503555701nevermind the raid is cancelled, i'm a happy elf>>503555883redridge was rammed today it'll be rammed tomorrow, get real, anon
>>503555714Easy. Just say you meant to sub to the US/EU version of the game, and want a refund so you can make the new sub. Works every time.>>503555798>defending empty world tier layeringBro is cooked
>>503555798>a new one spawns 2s later, someone in your group gets the tagat last u truely c
>peaked at 9 layers>already down to 4 oof
>buy $100 thinkpad>buy $100 mobile wifi >play 20 year old game at work 4 hours a day
>>503556237Which realm?
>not busting out your ick and eck at workngmi
>>503556237I saw 10
hit 34.5 today. Not as far as I hoped but I hope to be 60 by next sunday
>want to play a spec that isn't just 1 button top dps spam>the other option is spending a year being a meme so the meta specs are allowed to have funyou guys seriously enjoy this game?
>>503556887>you guys seriously enjoy this game?no, which is why i'm not playing until blizzard ditches #nochanges and starts buffing the underperforming classes
>>503556887who the fuck cares just pick what you like and be so cool and good at what you do that your guildies/raid do not care
>>503557026omg im havin so much heckin fun being a detriment to my raid team!!
>>503549195sorry, i was busy with my career, didn't get to play SoD, but it looks really fun. I'm sure people enjoy it a lot. but i feel like it's a bit too late to get into it at this point.
>>503556887>you guys seriously enjoy this game?nope, classic is just about parses now, the game itself isnt challenging out interesting and the story is assonce you stop caring about loot and parsing high, theres no reason to keep playing
>>503557182omg my raid is so inept they cant clear 20 year old solved content with 39/40 players running an exact to spec cookie cutter build and itemization and rotation!!!
im super new and im only planning on playing the one character, but is there a profession thats better than others? im a cloth class but i rly dont know what ppl want to buy or need
>>503557243>me when I pretend to not understand the pointGo play a balance druid and let me know how many raid teams you find that can clear MC in less than 2 hours.
sod lost
I've been dicking around Kalimdor as Alliance all day and only gained one level lmao
>>503556887>>503557182>WAH MIN MAXING ISN'T FUN>WAH PLAYING A MEME SPEC ISN'T FUNhave you ever considered just playing another game? You're in a thread for a game you hate begging people to validate your hate for it, get a better hobby
>>503557382what's this meme about SoD failing or turning out bad? isn't it like super popular?
>>503557264Take Skinning and Tailoring. Skinning will let you Skin beasts and vendor the pelts for extra cash. Tailoring lets you use linen to craft yourself items.There's more professions, but these are good for a new player to support yourself. There's many many many guides for everything you want to do, so don't hesitate to ask or look up stuff.
>just killed an Undead Warrior from Mandate of HeavenFucking Horde scum
>>503557462thank you so much i'll take those
>>503556887have you considered that the game isn't just a small series of raid instances and there's an entire world with quests, adventures and dungeons?This obsession with what's meta at level 60 is retarded, it doesn't matter, nothing is hard enough to warrant it especially considering crutches like world buffs.There are guilds out there who will take you anyway, and if there isn't, make one.>>503557006there are no underperforming classes, each class has a role to play within raids.'specs' arent a real thing, they are only a thing after Cataclysm.You are a Paladin. You are not a 'Ret'.You are a Rogue, you are not Combat'.You are a Druid, you are not 'Balance'.You are a Warrior, you are not 'Fury'.Every class has a place.>>503557462skinning with tailoring also helps to let you craft the boots which require a few pieces of leather sometimes
>>503557448you say that like there's tons of good MMO options just falling out of the sky
>>503557456idk you tell me
>>503556364idk but I can tell you the PvE realm currently has 8 layers spun up.
>>503557264The other anon suggesting skinning and tailoring is probably your best bet, if you're new my other suggestion would be either alchemy and herbalism (making potions and selling them is low but steady gold), tailoring and enchanting is also popular, you can disenchant tailoring items once you get high enough and enchanting always makes good money, it's kind of a massive pain to level though but right now at the start is the best time for it while greens are cheap and if you're in a guild a lot of people will just send them to you for free
whats the current level distribution
>>503557592wish i could kill some trannies, too bad i'm on horde
>>503557690>data is 4 months out of date as to not show that the numbers immediately tripled after this
>nightslayer conquered by the horde in less than 5 days
>>503557751I'm thinking the guy is European and forgets that most people aren't playing WoW at 4am on a night before work, especially considering the audience of this game is 35+ year old men or pensioners
>Had 4 days off to level>only got to level 30>have to start wage slaving again on monday>gonna be so far behindwhy did I even put in the time for this shit
>>503557626Play a non mmo you clearly hate the genre, I know it's hard for you to admit but just go play something else
>>503551843>trannyI'm a real night elf female irl and I even killed this guy in pvp already. Try me HORDIE
>>503557604>there are no underperforming classes, each class has a role to play within raids.>'specs' arent a real thing, they are only a thing after Cataclysm.>You are a Paladin. You are not a 'Ret'.>You are a Rogue, you are not Combat'.>You are a Druid, you are not 'Balance'.>You are a Warrior, you are not 'Fury'.>Every class has a place.This is the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever read. It's mongoloid fucktards like you who make Blizzard hesitant about changes. Everyone knows that protection and retribution paladins are worthless, everyone knows that boomkins and ferals are worthless, everyone knows that enhancement is worthless.
>>503557902>taking off work days for a WoW release in 2024anon...
>>503557902I'm only 27 so I'm glad the boomers have to go back to wagie and the zoomers back to school, I can finally catch up
>>503553096I don't see it
>>503558054I actually put in the time off a month in advance. Fresh getting announced to release on that same day was just icing on the cake
>>503557882L M A O even
shaman players, what is it about your class that makes you keep coming back despite being relegated to chain heal cuck?
>>503557882>60% of the raider's in c*ta even after the dead cat bouncedead game
>>503554895theres a couple of posters that literally live in this general every day of their lifes, theyre huge unironic homosexuals and clearly mentally ill. this general is the most vapid degenerate place in the whole website.
>>503558182I like playing a support class I like wearing the dressI like keeping my team aliveI like knowing my totem is making the browns and yellows do big numbers
>>503558173were you trying to prove me wrong? it actually more like quadrupled.
>>503553120Sorry champ your game mode is not valid as long as petri exists
time for another long fishing sesh while gooning to blacked
>>503558364
>>503558542Lei you need help
Do people even still erp in classic? As a healer how do I gauge a tank's interest/initiate? feels like the modern audience isn't interested
>>503558182class fantasy alone
>>503557901EU PvP currently has 4 up so that fits.
>>503557327huh? my guild in 19 had a balance druid and we cleared the raids no problem. we weren't even sweats or anything, I was new to the game at that pointthere are people doing these raids going with 40 druids and other meme things like thatmaybe you're just really bad?
>>503558640All the ERPers moved to FF14
I kinda enjoy the lvl 60 content for the first 2-3 phases but i fucking hate leveling so much, its the most boring soul-draining shit ever.>attack mob>miss>dodge>parry>miss>mob dies after 1 min>eat cause im almost dead>repeat 50 more times for 1 quest>repeat 20-30 more quests as above for 1 level>repeat above for 60 levels
>>503558031>paladins are worthlessarguably the strongest dungeon tanks in the game due to excellent aoe capabilities, impressive utility in open world, dungeons as well as raids, great healing with a wide variety of gearing options because of their status as a plate class>druids are worthlessa decent melee option and tanking capabilities as well as excellent open world and dungeon utility, important buffs, healing isn't the greatest but is also very welcome>shaman is worthlessYou bring excellent utility, your totems are the envy of other classes and you enhance those around you. You also have some tanking capabilities in early and midgame.Like I said.Every class has its place.If you make these classes be able to do EVERYTHING well, then you greatly damage other classes in the process and disrupt the careful balance where the classes support one another. Your world is a world of pointless competition, the real game has the spirit of cooperation in mind.Basically, stop playing the game wrong and viewing everything through a DPS meter.
>>503553457Hc solved all this. You'll use all your class buttons and appreciate your class. Or you'll die
>>503558640I wish I knew sis, I was unironically trying to find a tank even pre-release, would've been their pet the entire way to 60 but just no bites. People think it's ironic posting maybe but I was dead serious...and now I have to look in-game? What a nightmare, atleast this place is full of degenerates
>>503558743Anon the leveling is the only good part of classic, the raids sucked huge ass lmao.
>he rolled alliance on nightslayer
>>503556887I do indeed
i'm kinda new to this game, what kinda things is a heal sissy expected to do for their tank (besides healing)? you need to talk to them outside of the game?
>>503558785>arguably the strongest dungeon tanks in the game due to excellent aoe capabilities, impressive utility in open world, dungeons as well as raids, great healing with a wide variety of gearing options because of their status as a plate classProt paladins are worthless. I didn't say paladins are worthless. They don't have excellent aoe capabilities. They don't have "impressive utility" in open world (I don't even know what that's supposed to mean. Great healing, sure, holy paladins are indeed the only viable spec for paladins.>a decent melee option and tanking capabilities as well as excellent open world and dungeon utility, important buffs, healing isn't the greatest but is also very welcomeno it's not a decent melee option. important buffs, is that really engaging gameplay? healing actually is the greatest out of the other options, which are not viable.>You bring excellent utility, your totems are the envy of other classes and you enhance those around you. You also have some tanking capabilities in early and midgame."enhancing those around you" is not engaging gameplay. both elemental and enhancements are garbage and only restoration is accepted.>Every class has its place.some classes have much more places than others, which completely contradicts your next point:>If you make these classes be able to do EVERYTHING well, then you greatly damage other classes in the process and disrupt the careful balance where the classes support one another.they don't actually "support one another." certain classes (mages, rogues and warriors) are severely overrepresented compared to the other classes because basically all other classes such lol.>Your world is a world of pointless competitionbringing the viability of the specs closer to each other would make for an infinitely more interesting classic experience, no matter what sweaty nerds like you have to say about it. and until blizzard decides to implement this, all their experiments will keep failing
>>503558640>>503559097>Do people even still erp in classic?I do. Longtime ERPer on F-list and retail.This dress makes me even more masculine by the way.
>>503559329Okay and how do you find partners in game?
>>503559264why are parsetrannies like this?
GUYS AHMPY DIED WHAT THE FUCK
>>503559469¿Quién?
>>503559412what are your thoughts 33% of classes being over 66% of the raid populations?
>>503559264Wear it.I'm not asking.
GUYS A DEAD TWITCHNIGGER JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
>>503557604>there are no underperforming classes, each class has a role to play within raids.
>>503559517idk im playing self found hc so i dont think i will raid
>>503559553if i wanted to heal sure, but i don't want to. and if i can't play the way i want to, then i won't play.
Sucks how all endgame cloth gear is dresses.
>Pull four cougars>TAURBULL my way through it and kill them all>Ancestors bless my valor with a new chestpiece>>503559387In Classic it's pretty hard. For me if a girl is chatty and bubbly I'll flirt a little and see if it goes anywhere.I have TRP installed and if someone else has TRP installed it helps a little. I wish it was easier. I'd really like to ERP with a cute healslut after a dungeon. Or make her flustered and mess stuff up while playing.
>>503559664your point of view is not representative
>>503559264>enhancing the team is not engaging gameplay I seriously think dps players are mentally retarded. They have this obsession with "fun" and what "fun" means is "pressing button to make number" >fights that require movement Not fun I can't press button to make number >fights that require stop dps or tactical fps Not fun I can't press button make number >fights that are ANYTHING but a target dummy Not fun I can't press button make number Anyway you seem completely deranged. Why don't you honestly play retail? Classic wow is an rpg it's not this weird parsetranny dps speed run thing and if that's how you play/approach it I can't imagine finding it very enjoyable
>>503559640I see every class represented there.And normal people don't run raid compositions like this. Will there be a weighting toward warriors? Sure.But the speedrunners and people who think they're number 1 would run a raid full of warriors even if it was only 1% better than anything else.
>starting to see more and more spic names and chink names on hunter pets
>>503559640>21 out of 40 are warriorsthe absolute state of classic
>>503559961>>503559640>world first speedrun levelers are all mages >therefore only mage is viable and represented
What should I make my alt character? Warlock seems fun and would be great going into tbc. Mage seems comfy too but just seems like its so overplayed plus I'd probably wait to make one a belf. I've always liked the class fantasy for warriors but I don't think my boomer brain would be able to zug properly with them.
>>503559810idk, my point of view is that classic is just a silly game where you derp around doing whatever u want, if u wanna serious pve environment theres always retail which is much better suited for it.
>>503559856Hey what's your opinions on this? >>503559640Why is this fun?Do you play a DPS warrior? All your posts are cope about the state of classic, lol.>Classic wow is an rpgIs it? Didn't notice, I only saw Warriors, Rogues and Mages, I thought other classes existed.Also after I reached max level I ran out of content to do. I heard about these things called "Raids" but never got invited to them, I was told that my spec is not "viable."
>>503559664What race class faction bro? How's the fresh going?
>>503559196Whatever they want generally speaking, it's a submissive role after all. Some of the things I've done before is say very embarrassing things in party chat mid dungeon run because my owner told me to. To something as simple as just giving them all of my gold after buying my spells which basically means I can't earn any money...It's an open ended role really!
>>503560025>>503559862holy fucking cope, #nochangers are mentally ill
>>503560169I dont think speedrunning wow raids would be fun, no. Noone is forcing you to do that. I play hardcore I play every single class and I like them all
>>503560196i died earlier but i restarted, so not that great, but also not that terrible.
>but my parserinoRetail destroyed everything good in this game
>>503550554>or pretending to be okay when the classic guild retard causes a mistake that wipes everyone's world buffsGood, gtfo, you sound like drag to interact with.
>>503559856>parsetranny dps speed runthis is literally what classic raiding is thoughretail mythic raiding is ironically the opposite, nobody cares about parses there
>>503560391It happens. I haven't tried sf yet. Playing orc hunter
>>503560325>no changers are mentally illalways have been
>>503559856Warcraftlogs and tools like it have done more damage to the fabric of the game than Blizzard could ever achieve.Kihra and whoever made WorldofLogs should be arrested for what they did to World of Warcraft.Now all people do is look at the bar and if their bar is lower than another bar, even if THEY are the reason someone else's bar is bigger (i.e the utility and support classes) then they get mad because "my bar should be the same size as theirs!!!"Every class is interdependent on each other. There are reasons to bring every class.>>503560169your class is viable, you dont have a 'spec' until after Cataclysm. The content is not hard. You do not need to be a fury warrior. Stop looking at pointless logs. Embrace the actual game (Game A) the developers made and not this modern abomination fuelled by an external website (Game B).The game is made to play, not to analyse obsessively.Just play the thing you want to play. You will find a place in the world.
>>503559264>not viabledo you know what the word viable means?
>>503560467I agree. The people spazzing itt about raid comps should play a different game. I recommend world of warcraft classic (hardcore)
>>503559903good thing I always preferred the english client, nobody will find out I'm a spic
>>503560678Yes, when all the classes are the exact same they all perform the same. That's a huge issue with retail and why I like classic class design a lot (hardcore)>but warriors are too good At one aspect of the game (endgame raiding) which is less than 1% of hardcore content and actually makes sense from a flavour standpoint. A raid force would be a lot of warriors with some support
>>503560882>when all the classes are the exact same they all perform the samethere is literally no correlation between class design and class balance. you are talking out of your ass.
>>503560882>when all the classes are the exact same they all perform the same
>>503549764>>503540890how the fuck do rogues keep up with hunters/mages? they seem like they'd be terrible
>>503561098they have enough CC and damage to kill 2 mobs at once consistently.
the devs are currently working on classic+
>>503561269yes, it came out like a year ago.
>>503561098hunters fall of hard, zeroji is killing 1 orge in 30ish seconds right now and have to drink all the time>magesdont fall off but mages are overconfident retards and squishy
>>503560882>Uhhhh all classes in retail are carbon copies of eachother>They uh all also do the same exact damageCryboomers aren't sending their best
>>503539780I've never done hardcore, do you actually have to delete your character when they die or is it just a gentleman's agreement to restart?
>>503560631it's less about doing the same damage and more about the fact that if you aren't playing one of the 3 best classes you're a second class citizen throughout the entirety of the game. For every good piece of loot you're going to be behind a line of BiS classes that are all more eligible than you. And if it's a 2SR guild worth half a shit they just won't let you come. You are playing literally for no gain. You'll get your first pieces of good loot after everyone else in the guild has already seen one regardless of skill level, they just played the right class. If you do play for parses, no one takes them seriously unless you're a war/rogue/mage. Those 3 classes also happen to be the best at pvp barring extreme duel autism. Two of them have phenomenal open world utility and the one that doesn't turns into a god the second 1 additional person joins their group.Nobody would care about the numbers if personal loot was in the game. But when you're trying to appease 40 greedy retards that don't even actually like each other and just want loot, bringing the meta classes reduces the friction as much as possible. I would happily play the lowest dps spec in the game if I still had a fair shot at BiS loot.
>>503561570Before they made actual hardcore servers it was optional and people would cheat the addon, now when you die its server side and you can't play the character anymore after dying
why are TBC niggers like this?
>>503560678The classes weren't designed for parsing, because parsers are brain damaged, monomaniacal retards
>>503561052>>503561095>>503561391>retail shill meltdown
>>503561772>If I say others are having a meltdown after I said some stupid shit people won't think I'm retarded
>>503557604>>503559640are fashyfreshbucks really this pathetic? they have to convince themselves the game is actually really balanced and there aren't massive gaps between the best and worst?>he's just a coping fury war, right
Play World of Warcraft.Stop playing World of Logs.
>>503561981even if everyone did this the game is solved and the meta would not change
>>503562047If they ever do a Classic+ properly.It needs to have logging and meter addons disabled from day 1.
>>503561772you're transparently a coping classicboomer, anyone with a brain would have to laugh at your cope
>>503562145This is the classic general lol
>muh pve balance!No one cares. The classes are balanced around PvP.
>>503562276Playing classic doesn't mean you have to be a retarded 50 year old that has no idea what they're talking about
>>503562405I dont really care to argue about it. I prefer the classic classes. If you prefer the retail classes that's nice.
>sod failed so miserably classic+ retards have completely repressed its memory and are again asking blzzard to make changes as if it would end up any differently
>>503561772>classes are unbalanced >warriors do double damage of warlocks>this means that the classes are soulful and unique>if you made all of warlocks abilities deal twice as much damage so that they did the same amount of warrior this would mean they were homogenized and unsoulfulor>take a retail class and flat buff it by 30% for no reason>now its a unique class that isn't homogenized>it has become unique and soulfulyou're just retarded
>give paladin and shaman a taunt>give druid a rez>add absolute minimum for hybrid viability (mp5, etc)>re-release raids with a flat 30% buff on all health and damage>only new content is dungeons/raids that are faithful to classic like SM or the rumored furbolg raidThis was all blizzard had to do.
>>503562625The Classic+ copers are so retarded, they finally get vanilla with added shit that boomers have been crying for like shaman tank and ret paaldins but scream about how its not Classic+ because it doesn't have X Y or Z, those people will never agree what Classic+ should be
>playing wow with my gf (male)>SHE made dinner>eating while tanking a dungeon>took next week off for thanksgiving/visiting familyBros this is so comfy
>>503562697In the version of the game I play warlocks are extremely sought after for endgame raiding and raiding is only 1% of the overall game experience. For that other 99% warlocks mog warriors in every way imaginable. Then at endgame you want them for unique cc and certain debuffs. This is true for every single class. All have strengths and weaknesses, all are fun. The entire game isn't about make my number big in raid. T. Classic hardcore
>>503562882*dies*
I think classes being imbalanced is fine because they all have unique utility outside of dps, ie portals, summoning, buffing, kitingThe imbalance is only an issue because faggots have minimaxed the game to death and they can't even justify why they've done that, they're caught in a constant loop of >well yes the raids are easy and you can clear it with any spec>I only play with/accept minmaxed specs in my raids!!!!!If they just played the game and didn't worry about speedrunning a 20 year old solved game none of this would be an issue, the dad guilds that invite meme specs and take an extra hour or so to clear are having more fun than you
>>503562567>>503562276you can like something without being totally delusional about it. classic is fun in spite of the retarded balance, but the balance IS retarded, and classes like>druid>pally>hunter>rogueare just worthless in dungeons/raids compared to the competition
When's Wow2
>>503563269In hardcore none of that is true and that's what I play so you're wrong. >>503562978*doesn't die*
>>503563294Never ever.
>>503562753nah, add the dragon raid that was planned for Azshara. Give that zone some actual content.
>>503563574that would fall into the "faithful to classic" category
>>503563269>tried to sneak rogue in with meme specsnice try brownigger
>>503562753>>add absolute minimum for hybrid viability (mp5, etc)Then boost their support abilities, don't give them static healer ones
seriously why are people nostalgic about tbc? do they only see the class balance of the game but completely forget how mundane the end game is?
>>503562135Even XIV isn't safe from it. No idea why speedrunning community took so big root in MMORPGs
>>503564083the "people" who "raid" in XIV are all 40 year old obese weaboos that threaten to doxx you if you DM their healer
>>503562135>If they ever do a Classic+ properly.what would that be?
Nigs learning that meters and logs have been around since before they started playing WoW is always a good bit
>>503562753>>503563845I suppose you'd need the "hybrids" to have buffed talents much later in the trees. like give the enhance shaman talent that is 2% melee damage per point a buff to also give 2% melee haste per point. Its late enough in the tree that they're locked in and not like a healer who is meleeing between casting heals.>>503564026I'm trying to finally give it a proper chance. Both during actual TBC and TBCC I leveled to 67, saw the absolute dumpster grind that was all the various reps and heroic dungeons, and decided there were better ways to use my time. I'll try to see if this expansion is even worth half the hype that surrounds it.
>>503564294>>503562753
>NOOO YOU CANT LOOK AT THE LOGS TO REALIZE IM A TOTAL SHITTER
>>503564026>Karazhan 10/10 >Magtheridon 5/10 why was he even added lmao?>Gruuls lair 10/10>SSC 8-9/10 depends how you view it>Hyjal is prob weakest TBC raid with 7/10>Zul'Aman 11/10 first time ever you get mount as award this is a real good raid with epic story>Black Temple 11/10 an other epic explosion this place is just legendary>The Tempest 10/10 still had one of the coolest fights where you had use certain weapons to beat the boss>Sunwell Plateu 10/10TBC had nothing but content rich and unique raids.
>>503564468>SoD and SoM>le furbolg raidah, the same memes all over againYou're truly delusional if you expect current blizzard to even make that possibleAND even if they do, they'll just grab one of the already existing night elf/furbolg underground caves and just fill it up with big furbolg elites and call it a dayand the worst part is that the classic+ zealots will slurp that up
you guys are all retarded. anon is right, every class has their place. for some that place is a 5 star luxury hotel packed with STD-free hookers and all you can eat buffets. for others it's the dumpster behind 7/11.
Logs are fun
>>503564427>saw the absolute dumpster grind that was all the various reps and heroic dungeons,You're not gonna like Hyjal, my man
literally the only thing tbc needs to be pure kino is a rework of hyjal waves and maybe a 20% buff to BT
>>503555492alliance is slightly ahead according to the last pollby a couple hundred at most
>>503564685>you do each of them once for 2 hours tops per week and log off
>>503564685More like"OMG LE HECKING EBIG WARCRAFT REFERENCE!"
>>503564685>>Magtheridon 5/10>>Gruuls lair 10/10so 2 bosses that are one single hallway into the boss are somehow different in terms of qualityand the hardest one is the lowest one hmmm
>noooooo why are people speedrunning MY mmo? speedrunning games should be limited to genres made for them nooooo noooo stay out stay out!peak cryboom
>>503564427The point is their original support intent, not cave-head parsie retail retardation. It doesn't matter at this point anyway, they've chased away any potential base with the retailification so you just get retail lite, which, who would want that in the first place? The great irony of course, is in their feverish attempt to combat "toxicity," they've only fostered the most toxic playstyle. That's what happens when you hire single minded autists I guess.
>>503565501They should stop when they're throwing huge fits about it like>>503560169
First time playing Horde and I gonna say The Barrens FUCKING SUCKS. Too many quests, too much walking
This is actually boring as fuck ive been playing since launch and im only level 20 we need fucking xp boost already.
>twitch frogS K I P
>>503565969The best zone in the game
>got cape of the brotherhood from first deadmines run
THIS BUT WITH A NIGHT ELF BIMBO
>>503561701got ur ass lmfao
>>503562753the endgame being raids is never gonna pan out for classic+. the whole foundation of wow is shit as a basis. even SoD which early on looked like it's trying to break out of that mold did the same, just with an artificial imposing of an earlier level cap. osrs can pump out mid level content and players will flock to it like flies either because the game has billions of support systems that indirectly make players interested in the mid level shitter content like clogging or alternate skilling methods for x type helmie characters. or a new gold making niche. wow is just fucking DEVOID of any kind of system that doesnt revolve around joining up a retard bossrush raid instance once every week for your guaranteed loot.what wow needs is either accept the fact that retail is the only way to make "new" wow content or they need to go back and change the formula but the playerbase is so divided, and retarded, and the devs are incompetent and lack the resources of tools to even create new maps so the best they can do is importing pre existing spell effects between their game clients.
>>503562753but they arlready did this its called sod?
they need to make a WoW 2 with the same sovl and rough mechanics of the old era of MMOsbut they wont and whatever they make next will be pozzed and shite
>>503567285he wants everything else they did for SoD removed
>>503567486like what? all sod did was "fix" hybrids and make raids harder exactly like xir wants
Going to make a new char, what should i make?warlockwarriorroguepaladin (i will refuse to heal)
>>503567313not enough money in mmo developmentgacha is too powerful
>>503567072There was no plan after wotlk because the game is story driven and was riding off wc3's story once arthas was defeated the game should have ended but the players didn't want it to end and the executives didn't want to lose all the cashflow coming in from subs. MMO/live-service games are an inherently flawed concept. I don't think this can be salvaged.
>>503567072>>503562753reminder that world of warcraft's races weren't meant to be factioned.originally, they intended each race to reside in their respective racial cities. it wasn't later in development (much much after the world and all main cities were fleshed out) that KJ pitched the factions.their development team would've 100% made undercity and darnassus much less intricate had they known 80% of players were gonna use 1 city per faction as their main hub to save on development time.factions and pvp servers were a late-development mistake and if those mistakes weren't made, more content outside zipping to 60 and humping raids with 6 alts to split on for 1 parsie night at the end of a tier wouldn't have become so prevalent.
>>503567594Pick whatever because you'll just reroll at level 15 again
>>503567584playing melee hunter was so fun... i felt like rexxar dualweilding
>want to give horde a shot for once >remember I'd have to play cow because I want to play druid man classic SUCKS
>>503567594warlocks and druids are the least populated.
>>503567584are you retarded?