christmas cheer edition>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to give feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/12-06-2024-update.50599/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, play bot matches.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHcThreadlocked: >>506422967
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>just realized that the previous thread diedNever mind, I'll unlock the others in a moment.
Sex with Abrams
It do be like that sometimes.
>>506698351>>506698149Always believe in IvyNot me though, never believe in meCrazy short game desu>>506700652Yeah probably, I feel like despite his figure he'd be super gentle and loving about it
>Ivy main is a faggotWhat a surprise...
post em
>>506701035God I remember when my mmr dropped to emissary 2 after a bad streak. Once you're in pisslow, it genuinely feels luck-based because of how fucking unreliable both teams are.
>>506701643>>>/pol/
When do you stop being shitlow? Oracle?
>>506702046phantom i think, oracle still has lots of players
>don't add ff because you can actually comeback>cool>can't comeback anymore>no ffThankfully they are ignoring the reports so i can just DC but still
>>506702291Phantom is where people start to be "good", oracle is top 20-10% I feel like it's retarded to call it shitlow, people there are "decent"I'd say archon-oracle is like gold-platinum in most games. People there understand how to play the game, they might even be mechanically strong, they just can't consistently apply fundamentals well. Really doesn't help currently with how small the playerbase is, I've played with bot phantoms and other phantoms that feel like they wouldn't be out of place in an eternus lobby, but I dunno.
Icefrog is a dumb cunt who ruined this game and every valve product he's ever touched and deserves rape correction. Who the FUCK thought a third person dota with dated as fuck mechanics was a good idea?one of the most hyped games for a long while and they just fucking wrecked it. What can we as the community do to fix this?
>>506703647It could be that they got put into a hero that they don't know how to play. It's weird but it happens sometimes with me when both of my starred picks are taken and I'm forced to play as a hero I'm not that skilled in.
See, believe in Ivy but never in meWe got 0 flex slotsI had zero kill potential or impact on this matchThat haze isn't an alt but that Pocket sure is>>506701792This is a climb for me. I started way, WAY lower
>>506704023Gaslight, engage in circlejerks, and attack anyone with criticism
>>506704275>8 day old steam account with a pocket profile pictureI hate this region
>>506704275you should start hosting lobbies if you are na
>>506704515At least your smurfs have an excuse, NA smurfs are just niggers
I'm Oracle 4 and made a smurf to test out new heroes and it's stuck in between Archon 1-2 this redpilled me on the matchmakingAlthough I guess if I put the time in I could grind it out but it's just funny how unwinnable matches can be even multiple ranks below where I am supposed to be at
Just saw an enemy with ethereal shift and metal skin unironically complain about getting cursed
Woops forgot bets, 14 minutes in now from this screenshot, no spoilers>>506704761OCE
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>Streamer modeno (You) for you
>>506703647to be fair, oracle players make me want to rope with their decision making
>>506707962that's okay i can feel your rage for throwing the rejuv
>>506706386Welcome to deadlock, where ranks are made up and points don't matterThat's right, points are like opinions who think this game should be trashed during development againAlso I don't play Seven, but he really feels like he could use a quicksilver reload or something, but I might be crazy
has anyone gotten yamato's christmas outfit? 3 kills in 1 shadow transformation feels kinda rough unless you're like 20k souls ahead of everyone, dont think you can use refresher either
>>506708640Is it in 1? I thought it was just 3, during your ult, throughout the game
>>506709040meant for>>506708653
>>506709040i thought it was 3 in 1 because of the bonus time and heal per kill and since yamato is supposed to be this lategame 1v6 monster, i swear i killed 3 in it throughout the game but 3 in one does sound overly difficult, moreso than seven's thing
BetsThis feels like a high Emissary game
>>506708239Well the thing is with players around that MMR is generally in hindsight they can recognize they were retarded (even if they won't admit it in the case of being egotistical faggots) inconsistency, panic decisions, etc is the core of players in midwit mmr (like I said generally gold-plat)
The bad matchmaking simply pisses me off because it feels as if for a good chunk of my games there's no room to grow or improve, how am I supposed to get better in lobbies where everyone lost their lane and I have to safe farm right next to my base while my team deathballs and doesn't push shit? >Inb4 you aren't a streamer, wannabe pro, etcI just enjoy playing well and getting better at the game, if you like playing casually that's fine. What do you guys typically do in hopeless games?
>>506709627I was off by a full set of ranks
IT'S UP.
BetsWe lose, my team is all kiwis
>take a break from vindicta for a week to play some lash and yamato>drop 80 rankings on herwhat the flip...
>Abrams ult gives him unstoppable for 3 seconds after landing nowI HADNO IDEAI thought people were buying unstoppable and it was tilting the FUCK out of me
>>506714387I was the brick this gameI do not understand Viscous, fundamentallyAlso why doesn't his puddle punch cast at max range if I aim beyond the range I can use it? Put it on the ground at the end of the cast distance, Seven's new ult does it, why not the punch? It was fucking me up constantly by trying to use it and continue shooting but because it's invalid you get the BZZZT noise trying to cast it constantlyI am BAD
>>506718317viscous is grief tier nothing new
Alright last one before I got shit to dobets
>>506718941left
>>506719270You're god damn right
got my yamato christmas skinelfmoding
>>506722361I genuinely cannot tell whether you're improving or not
why did they make the seven skin such a pain
>>506723146i got it on my first game
I'm not gonna play the game just because it has some gay ass skins. Add real content, faggots
This game is awful and a chore to play, even overwatch is less soul-crushing. Washington state should bring back the death penalty for whatever retarded nigger ape at valve decided to make games last 40 mins average but decided at 8.
how do I do 1000+ damage in one charged shot as gray talon
>>506727189counterpoint: I love this game and its fun
What happened?
>>50672766190% of 171k people didn't have fun.
>>506727189>niggalow thinks games are decided before bridge buff even spawns
>>506727189>even overwatch is less soul-crushing.Oh, shut up.
>>506728746>latinxlow sticks his fingers deep into his ears and pretends snowballing isn't a massive issue in this game
I just hate when I stick someone with a bomb as bebop and they use whatever their juke ability is to dodge the nuke because I know they're sitting there like a smug wojak as if they pulled off a 500iq play.
>>506727267stack a ton of spirit power + improved burst on a target with low spirit resist and then headshot them
>>506714007are we even going to keep them?
>>506729236this is pure projection from someone who sits there like a smug wojack when they hook someone
isn't it crazy how some people unironically spend like 10k souls to do about 50 extra damage on their abilities?
How is it this early in the game and they're already struggling to come up with cool heroes?Mirage is such a joke and boring as fuck while in the hero labs you have shit like Raven who literally just has grenade + grey talon jump up. And Holliday and Calico have been in brainstorming phase for a whole fucking year because Valve have no idea how to make a third ability for them.
>>506728281MOBA is a boomer genre now.
>>506729834I don't feel particularly smug for doing that, but majestic leaping with double self placed bombs sure feels good when it connects.
>>506728281They didn't add the skins, lootboxes and battle pass yet.
>>506730146the cool heroes come later anon, when you are creating your starting roster you lean on reliable solid designs before you start experimenting with more knowledge of the game direction and playerbase
>>506730115Isn't it crazy how you're a fat fuck
>>506730660that really isnt that crazy
>>506730146Valvd can't make games anymore. Alyx was mogged by Boneworks. Artifact, well you know the story, literally a laughing stock. CS2 is only a thing because of gambling, Valorant mogs it in each and every way. DOTA2 is dead while League only gets more popular. Valve lost their tocuh, it's not the same company that made HL1&2, L4D and TF2 anymore
>>506730528it took 4 years for lol to make yasuo and deadlock already has lashkino
>>506730817this is true, lash is a gem
>>506730784This except unironically. Anyone that plays CS or keeps up with the scene knows how angry that playerbase is too, another recent project Valve dropped the ball on hard because they're lazy, neglectful fucks but just have good branding
>7 or 8 wins to go from emissary 3 to 4>queue with my phantom friend>3 wins to go from emissary 4 to 5it makes sense, but was this known? that queuing in higher tier lobbies raises you faster?
95% of valve is working on half life 3 rn mark my words
>>506733789Huh? It's typically only like 2-3 wins to rank up for me soloq and I'm Archon
>>506733842The thing is you're baiting but people are actually latching onto this cope, I can't believe after all these years people think HL3 is a thing that'll happen
>>506733789They've said the literal opposite btw, supposedly you're supposed to gain less MMR and lose more if you queue with a friend otherwise it's strictly win loss based so I don't even know anymore.
>>506733842>>506733994Half Life 3 is basically 100% happening and is in development. There's way too much smoke.>Join Valve>Can either work on one of the most anticipated sequels to one of the most legendary franchises of all time>Or work on some weird multiplayer game that may or may not see the light of dayYeah, 95% of Valve are working on HL3. Deadlock will limp on and sputter out until they quietly close the doors like they did Artifact. Fuck I bet there won't even be a blog post or anything. That's what they did with Underlords. Just stopped posting one day.
Is getting Tesla bullets worth it just to trigger spirit item procs with your gun, assuming your character doesn't have a better way to do it?
>>506733789The reality is that not even valve knows how matchmaking and ranked works anon.Don't even bother, they stopped giving a shit a long time ago.
>>506734238I always assumed this was the only reason pick it up, I don't get the "it helps you farm faster" meme, can't be THAT impactful.Someone please correct me otherwise
>>506733873>>506734154maybe I just suck ass at keeping track of the games between my ranks, but I could swear
>>506734404I think it's more likely that there is a delay in your rank badge updating, sometimes I also get that big post game notification I ranked up and other times I get nothing and just see in my skill rating I went up a few ranks, it's very weird
>>506734397Tesla bullets used to be good near invites opening because getting 6k souls was way harder back then.But now if you just want to farm ricochet does that and more.The meme stuck tho.
>Rape Haze in lane >Just starts gigafarming>Exclusively follows me around the map to dagger and ult me while cloaked
>>506734695buy the mating press item next time anon
>>506734695I just activate my whip and M1 her through her ult.
why are doomposters so gay
>vindicta throws the game by helping a seven unlock his epic fortnite drip>it takes them like 5 minutes because someone else keeps running over to kill vindictaAt least vindicta wasn't on my team, I would've been seething. It didn't seem like her team was yelling at her though, I would've been.
>>506735049enemy team shouldve been more protective of their vindicta, seven mogged them all and she joined the other team
>One last game before I get off! >Leaver that ragequit after feeding a Vindicta Cool :)
https://strawpoll.com/jVyG2NBLPZ7
your ass is forced 50
>>506734238Better to get toxic bullets in this caseTesla is only worth you get cdr so like on bebop
>>506743850Those aren't exactly quick to apply though.
The anticheat still works, my friend just got banned for using them.
Bring back the fucking inhouses. Every single match has been a stomp
inhouses breed namefags
Inhouses are a honeypot
>>506745209You mean to multiple targets? I suppose so but what would you apply to multiple targets if not bullet resist shredder
I return thereforeBETS
>>506747938The team with Lash wins because he's lowkey top 5 right now
Shota lash mod when?Mommy ivt mod when?.
>>506747938Ambertoo many abramses just feed
>>506748216smug bratty shota..
wow damn I sure love it when my entire team is feeding non-stop and the game is inevitably lost before the 10 minute mark!I sure am looking forward to playing this game in the future when it finally releases
>>506750118>that player damagethe only reason you got anything done was because your team was taking the heat while you were ratting. also picrel is your match history. you gigafeed every other match. embarrassing for you to whine about "feeders"
>>506751115this motherfucker plays worse than this motherfucker in the same rank >>506747938
valve knew what they were doing with this skin shite. the game is dying on its ass and surrounded by doomposting, so they gave the chungus reddit skinfag crowd a way to drown out all other conversation with HECKIN memes.they can't make games anymore, but they can still do soi shepherding.
>>506749753VERY sniffable
>>506751661Thought the same thing
>>506714007Does killing with the slow shot as paradox count as "killed while slow"?
>>506748329>>506748137>>506747938The Warden fed multiple kills on purpose and threw the game at the end by refusing to defend pit, and admitted to it in textIf there's a moderation system, I hope he gets banned
>want to play the game>know that all of my teammates will be genuine fucking retards who will ruin every aspect of my match>don't playIs there a way to get over this feeling? I feel like when I play, I'm always trying my best, yet my teammates are CONSTANTLY doing shit like feeding, inting, being idiots, don't know how to do things like run urn/etc. I'm not asking for pro teammates every match, but I am asking for my teammates to not feed within less than 1 minute of game time; which has happened in like 90% of the games I've played recently.
>>506752896>whining about teammatespost your tracklock so we know you arent like this genious here>>506750118>>506751115
no bets this match
>>506752998Oh don't get me wrong man I'm not saying I'm the best player or some shit. I don't think I even consider myself "good". But I am saying that I don't intentionally fuck the game up for others. I don't feed, I don't int, I don't do stupid ass shit like never defending lane, I don't purposefully abandon my teammates in fights, etc. Even if I'm not good, at the very least I'm not like these retards. Is that so much to ask for? Non-retarded teammates?
>>506751115you would've had a semblance of a point had you actually watched any of them and realized my so-called "feeding" is a result of initiating winning fights and trading for valuable objectives, compared to diving under enemy tower because "they're low"having bad KDA by the end of the game (not the first 10 mins) doesn't matter if you're the only person who knows how to do push properly, though I wouldn't expect a mongrel like you to understand
>>506753449>>506751115>>506750118LMAO THIS NIGGA CANT BE SERIOUS OHNONONO AHAHAHA
>under 1k spm every match
>>506753704So, I take it everyone in your matches has at least 1K spm, even when losing?
>>506754215900-1100 yes
>>506754297>900-1100here comes to goalpost moving
>my so-called "feeding" is a result of initiating winning fights and trading for valuable objectives
bump
>>506753275We held them off for longer than it should have taken themWhat the fuck
>>506755049hope i get this guy on my team so one of my lanes always has an extra creep
>>506755049>that aimingEither the guy has 80yo reflexes or he is playing on a trackpad Didn't land a single shot on Dynamo
Are there "best" times to die? As in, if you die it isn't a big deal because you'll respawn soon/etc? First blood bonus is useful but enemies come back in like actually 5 seconds so it isn't that impactful. Dying late games is 40+ seconds of death, leading to enemy teams being able to control the map and win more easily.
>>506756036Sometimes I die because I'm kiting 3 enemies while my team takes a walker/mid boss so there's that
>>506756036dieing after you steal rejuv is pretty not badDieing for t1 is not worth but if you die for a walker and they don't deny the orbs/take any of yours while u dead it's worth cause you will net more souls than you loseDieing for a shrine is probably? worth, but it might be super late so timer is too longDieing early* to defend first patron form is also worth since the respawn will knock 20s off the timerAnd of course trading 1 death for multiple kills is worth or even 1 for 1 if they other dude has a bag or bounty
>>506756465Suicide diving the shrine is good if you actually have the DPS to kill it since it unlocks a flex, and if there is a team fight happening on the map you will disrupt it since 2 or 3 enemies will zip back to the base, giving your team chance to push. I do that a lot with mcginnis, you can hold your own for a solid 30 seconds with just walls and heals
>>506753704Compare to the OCE bets anon who is lower ranked
>>506753449>my so-called "feeding" is a result of initiating winning fights and trading for valuable objectives, compared to diving under enemy tower because "they're low"
>they removed abrams' new modelthe absolute state
>>506757374people didn't like the new model and they want to keep their christmas skins forever so deadlock is keeping the placeholder art style
I'm going to bedThis game was fucked, what the hell
>>506758475Dude whatNo fucking wonder
>>506757090>this is the guy complaining about feeders in his team
dotards won
>>506755771>trackpadthat feels more like gyro to me
>>506756036There are simply a lot of condition>What stage of the game is it (death timer)>Are all other lanes push up (harder for enemy to convert off your death if lanes are pushed)>Are your teammates in position to trade for a kill or another obj for your death?>How many opponents does it take for your death>What obj is on the map that opponents can take from your death (i.e. it's bad to die late in the game if mid boss is up)>Will your death cause a domino effect that lead to more deaths forn your team??
>>506755049>>506757090>He actually went on to watch hours of some troll's bottom feeder gameplay to prove a pointI honestly don't know which one of you is more retarded
>>506756036I consider dying worthwile if it doesn't give enemy strong soul advantage and if it's worth wasting time respawning
>>506765541I don't think it's even a "troll". Some people genuinely are that delusional about their skill level and decision making ability in game.
Is geist's skin unlock borked?I tried doing it on below 100 hp, tried getting over 1k hp in a single swap - neither worked
>>506734182
>>506756036dying early, dying when youve taken multiple enemies time to do so and your in an elo where people capitalize on that, dying for a walkerdying, especially early, is something you shouldnt be scared to do
hello dlg
Thread live! Game live!
How do you make people look at the map and enemy health levels?
This game's fate was sealed the moment Forsen dropped the game. The god gamer is never wrong.
Why would Valve customize models that aren't even the finished ones
>>506780334for fun
>he isn't multiboxing 50 accounts in OCE and selling the christmas skinsSome people were just born to be poor I suppose
>>506782182I have a job.
>>506734521Tesla was never good.
>>506746751>>506747282Inhouses were kino.
>last patch of the year>cosmetic fluff only>wraith still busted, lash completely busted, no anticheat update, matchmaking still borkedi never thought i would become a doomposter, but valve is really trying to kill this game. This game will just be another slav containment game. USbros keep winning, valve probably thinks the game is doing fine because they do not have to deal with the cancerous country known as russia.May the war go on forever, and many more orcs be taken off the genetic pool.
>>506785225Just stop being a euro.
>>506785757Brother have you seen how things are on the other side of the atlantic? I'd rather just find a game with proper anticheat implemented. That basically removes 90% of the ex-soviet garbage.
Eurotrannies wouldn't have a competitively viable region in any competitive game if it wasn't for slavic bvlls.
>>506786389The real blackpill is that europeans wouldn't have a competitively viable region in any competitive game if anyone in europe actually had go to work instead of collecting neetbux.
>>506782182>selling something that's getting removed in 2 weeks
>>506698769how come some random joe schmuck off of twitter can come up with a more unique ultimate ability for marvel slop than yoshi and hotpoo for the entire hero labs cast so far?
>>506788346really dont understand why they hired that guy, he's not nothing since august except make a few dogshit unfinished kits???
>Europe not competitively viableWho the fuck cares bro you ain't making money from this shit anyway. WAAC fags manage to ruin any game.
>>506788346>inb4 it turns out that all ror ideas were taken from some random hobo that hotpoo hung out withfucking hack
How do I reset mmr?Honest question, I just can't with these people anymore, after this patch I barely encounter a team that wants to do mid.
>>506779235One thing that does bother me is that enemy's health levels on the top of the screen are glitched and incorrect all of the time.
Rework shiv's ult.What the fuck is that? Geist leaves you 30% hp, this fuck just deletes them. It's not like the fucking thing scales, nope *bam* hit flat threshold=you dieFuck this guy, he's already tanky as fuck.
>>506793378they already did lolwasn't he an install character before? or was his monster model just never actually implemented for use
>>506793628wiki says that it's only in the files and wasn't implemented apparently
>>506793378Geist also swaps her health though, and gets buffs from using her ult. It's not like its a less powerful version of Shiv's ult.
>>506794348i thought it was used in neon prime since he has his glasses and like half his dialogue references some shit about being a monster, he even has some ultimate lines about "unleashing the beast" or crap like thatweird that they just scrapped it altogether. it'd make the rage meter make a lot more sense than how it is now. and this is coming from someone who loves culling blade/shivs ult
>>506794485i'm not comparing them in that they both do instant amount of fixed damage that can't be defended against, except one is lethal to the target and the other isn'tit just freaks me out how it's the only ult that does that AND gets its cooldown reset at T5 toothe rest we have either have delayed damage, disable, or with Vindicta require you to aim while somewhat considering hp level and charge time with SCALING mystic damagethis guy just gets in range, autoaims at you and clicks a buttonwhat the flying fuck was the grand idea behind this specific ult that required it to be this cheap?
>>506793628he had lifestealers ult before, which they should definitely bring back on a new hero because it's actually fun
>>506785225Being russian must suck ass whem half the people they play with bitch and whine 24/7
>>506792596aren't they using the last observed health levels, so if someone isn't on the minimap they won't be updated?
>>506797737>half the people they play with bitch and whine 24/7nah, they're mostly drunk and play by pressing random buttons
>>506793378>hit 0% hp>dieWhat the fuck?!
>>506798032No, because I've seen enemies being taken to low hp by me or teammates, but shown to be much higher hp on the top bar
So how do you build yamato right now?Haven't played in like 3 months.
>>506802307gun
>>506802307just use ronalds build, its veil walker centric atm so you wanna get familiarized with where you can use veils
>>506775698Nice to see you're still here
>matches earlier in the day are always way worse qualitywhy is this, I thought neetchads would be better players than wagecucks
>>506809148Depends on your skill level, really. If you're Oracle or below, the NEETs are going to be worse because the reason that they're NEETs is because they're retarded. If you're ascendent, the NEETs are going to be better because the reason that they're NEETs is because they're autistic.
>>506809148uni niggers and children in some school districts tend to be out on winter break by now in burger land.
>>506808387:)
i hate deadlock
>>506809148Smaller player pools but historically I've always had better teams in the morning across all games, night time you get drunk retards on 10 loss streaks
Gooood morning /dlg/It is 8:30am OCE time, what are the chances I get a game
>>506817646that sounds like a question only you are equipped to answer my friend
>>506818343You aint wrongI will queue up now and see if it pops. Emissary 2 on OCE at 8:30am on a friday is a bleak outlook, but I guess there's only one way to knowand will continue my slay the spire run while I wait I guess
How's the collection coming along, /dlg/? I realised this is on my playing-with-friends account and not my main
>>506818343>>506818646BETSROUND 18:45 AM EDITION
>>506819545only unlocked infernus so far the haze one is a bitch
>>506819590Nevermind
>>506820230>>506819590>archon 2 average game while I'm Emissary 2I am actually scared
okay for real this timeBets round 1, 9 am edition
A warning to all /dlg/ players:This weekend through the next week, I am going to be grinding for all the holiday skins. I am not good at every character, I haven't even played every character and to be quite honest I do not care to win. I will get them all no matter how many losses I suffer. Heed my words well, for those who don't shall suffer with me.
>>506756145Would the equation for something like that be>if your respawn time < (enemies kited - 1) * time spent kitingTo calculate the value?
>>506822338Well you should probably be specific about your region and rank if you want people to actually avoid you. That being said, I'm pretty annoyed that Valve hasn't even just told anyone if the skins are going to be permanent or one off (though I'm leaning towards the latter considering how shitty most of them are). If this game had non-ranked options then it would be far easier to convince people to help each other out in getting each others' skins and not suffer through jumping through hoops in which you may not have that much control over depending on yours and the enemy's teamcomp + skill. I think I'm just going to ignore the skins outside of vaguely trying for the easier ones because turning this game into a chore's going to make it much less fun.
>friend accuses at least one person of cheating a game>just to keep things civil i agree with him most of the time even though he's just coping, dont want him getting mad when i tell him he's wrong most of the time>he says fuck it, he's gonna cheat too since all these people are getting away with it>watch him get banned our very next gameand now i dont have anyone to play with anymore
>emissary 1>queue takes like 10 minutesisnt this supposed to be like one of the most populated ranks
>>506757374So they do want to drop all models at the same time? But why?
>>506821879>Archon fucking 5UHUHHHAlso I don't know how to play haze compared to the average haze I guess? Though their team didn't really have a brick I could farm kills from, and their paradox half HP'd me constantly with the kinetic carbine shots so that's some menacing shit lmao
>>506824814this literally never happened, the anticheat is a joke
>teammates crying that im throwing because im trying to get skinuhh sorry fags, i didnt queue ranked.
>tf2 boomers stuck ivy on their solo lanewhat did they mean by this bros, have ivy players been lying this whole time
I can't fucking believe people unironically deny forced 50. Probably shitposters that don't even play the game
>abrams feeds warden mcginnis in laneThis was a fucked match lmao, thank god I had 3 hard carriesMy spirit bullshit wasn't working this game, I fell too far behind in farm and all the camps were getting taken so I had to try and figure out how to pivot to...varying results I guess
This is the most annoying game ever made and i hope it failsSincerely i do
>update while I was eating lunchFuckers
AlrightyBets round..uhWhatever this is
The betposter sure is desperate to keep the threads alive
>>506839640at least he plays the game
52 minute long match i knew was a loss from the starti really hate this game
Remember when we had inhouses and all played the game and had fun and excited about new updates.Now we're on the brink of hitting 5k players by january.
>>506839640>>506840901Samefag begone
>>506840976
>>506832530forced 50 doesnt exist in any moba, you just have less agency in other games because there are 5 other players on youe team that also get some agency in whether you win or losethe game basically has visible mmr i mean come onalso its in alpha and they havent implemented engagement based matchmaking like lol and overwatch
>>506785225>Wraith busted>Lash bustedThe retards here actually believe this shit
>>506839640Leave him alone.
I hope the people that made this game get their balls twisted off
>>506838058Gun Ivy is undoubtably more useful for impact when you're forced to brool, even if I spent half my time running from enemies chasing me rather than shootingFollowing up lash ults with stoneform repeatedly is so fucking funny I might pick up melee charge the next time I gun Ivy for a third instant reload>>506839640Well yeah, it's comfy to have a general for a game you enjoy so you can discuss it with others who enjoy it>>506842047To my understanding, in a perfect world, 50% means you're having balanced matches where it can go one way or anotherHowever, due to the unpredictable nature of human beings and other factors outside the control of the matchmaking, it generally fails to achieve it and you get a brick instead, which makes it feel like an arbitrary forced-50.The nature of mobas and shooters in general makes it sorta hard to have "close matches" because of the snowball effect, and deadlock in particular feels bad from behind because if you have or are the brick, your team is down 4 abilities, any HP/Shields the person might have had to soak damage, and up to 16 items.
Late bets but bets nonetheless
>>506840183maybe if you thought you could win you could have changed the future
The problem is in other games they try for a 40/40/20 (40% you lose, 40% you win, 20% that are balanced and you can have impact on to go either way) in this game it feels more like 50/40/10 (50% you lose, 40% you win, 10% you have to sweat your ass off to win) I don't know if it's just the nature of this genre, but for example it's a bit insane to me that teams can be so lopsided in regards to average rank for example, I don't see an excuse for why I should ever have a mainly archon team against a mainly oracle or phantom team
>get higher ranking>match average elo gets lower and lowerno wonder the matchmaking is so dogshit what the fuck
>>506728281mouth breathers make every match too frustrating for everyone
>Make ranked>Ok fine whatever, people have fun being competitive too>Queues are pretty smooth compared to now>Numbers drop because of poor balance, lack of content, people realizing this is an actual alpha not a finished game, etc>Panic combine queues>Ok this makes sens- >Except they keep ranks>And make main queue ranked only>Now competitive players and casual players are constantly at odds fucking up each others games>Add a placebo box you can check for "extra competitive">Combine people that check it and people that don't anywaysYou can't convince me longer but separate queues was a worse alternative
>>506844167i really fucking hate this game but that is nonsenseits a mobapeople were taking just as seriously in the non-ranked mode, nothing has changed
I'm phantom 3 and I don't play anymore because I'm scared of losing my rank.It's irrational but it's what happens when you can no longer play unranked
The game is to random and deaths feel like there is nothing to learn from themSome matches i do good, some i do bad, but the matches i do good it just seems like random luck that i wasn't getting spammed by 3 auto lock on ults in a row like the other matches
>>506844902Not in my experience, not even trying to make a dishonest post that was just my perspective. I think people put way more stake into imaginary badges for an alpha game than you'd think. I also think they fumbled with the hero mmr, people can end up in lobbies WAYYYY too high compared to their own rank.
>>506845183>people can end up in lobbies WAYYYY too high compared to their own rank.this is memy kill death ratio is something like 1 kill 10 deathsi think because i do a lot of objective damage and no one else every pushes
>>506728281Played like 250 hours and burnt myself out. I'll be back eventually. Currently hogging out with the latest capeshit slop game.
>>506845046Because the lanes are literally right next to each other so it doesn't matter how well you do in your actual lane, a vindicta can "gank" without actually moving away from her lane and deal 60% of your hp while also getting extra souls.There's not enough tactical depth so you can just death ball and pick the FOTM bullshit broken heroes and succeed regardless of actual skill
>>506846169>Vindicta, Lash, or Haze in neighboring lane>Can get "ganked" in a split second with barely any time to reactI don't know I come from games like CS where you have dedicated minimap time, but otherwise when you're fighting you don't pay attention to the minimap. How am I supposed to push lane up if someone can just come to my lane and chunk me for most of my hp instantly
>>506846095JustJUST
>>506846395Minimap is kinda useless in lane because there's no wards and just someone walking away from sight for 2 seconds can instantly mean a gank.And due to, again, lack of depth and tactical mechanics you can't control wave too much so your only answer is staying the fuck away whenever that happens which hurts your csing.
I think the noise of the rapid-fire crossbow is affecting my vision somehowYou know how likeYou turn the radio down to see house numbers better in the car?Yeah, that>>506845393I'm at nearly 500 hours, in absolute dogshit elo, and still loving the game tbqh
>>506847047>loving the gameyou sicken me
>>506847162At least I have some effect on you, I suppose
Ah shitBets
>>506847570mfw pause number 3
>>506847774number 4
>>506847570haze wins
>>506848109Number fucking 5>>506848680It's not looking likely
I finally understand the value of debuff remover more and imo, it's one of the best "tank" item. Imo, debuff remover is better for close range bruiser/tank while ethereal is better for the squishy range who needs extra defense.
>>506848680>>506847570>this was an archon 4 gameWHAT
>>506850337That seem like a balance and even game though
>>506850490I did objectively almost as bad as our Haze and Bebop, so I have no real right to complain about any balance thereI don't think I should be playing at upper archon while I'm lower emissary, tbqh
BETSI don't know whether to go gun or spirit this match
>>506846395The best gankers can rotate in like 2-3 sec sure. That is reactable though and it would help if your teammate make some call out/shadow the gankers. The key is that playing passive and holding safe position make ganks harder. However, if you make an aggressive play, make a quick and decisive play then instantly retreat regardless of the result.
>>506851448Isn't ideal play being aggressive in lane if you're winning to end it faster for more impact?
>>506851618It depends on match up, what point of the game, and what is your gameplan. For example, if you get a good trade early, it might not be worth it for a hard chase for a relative small chance of a kill and the reward isn't that grest. It might be better off to not miss any cs then zone the low hp opponent out of cs so they fall behind. Early aggressive push to tower might not be worth it because you can't do much damage to tower early and you are at risk of a bad trade or an early gank. If you make an aggressive play, have a plan, success condition, and make it quick, especially in the laning phase where respawn is fast, kill reward is low and gank is possible.
>>506851109Go kudzu
>>506853505>>506851109ResultsI'm glad I went gun, because this 5 stack on my team was less coordinated than a retard with parkinsons trying to masturbate without knowing what his penis looks like
Anyway straight back into itBets?I'm definitely going Kudzu this time
>>506854142left if dynamo isn't dumb with ults
>>506855054Bigger chance of Kelvin fucking up with ult and losing teamfight than dynaml
Smite won
>>506855498That's very embarrassing
>>506855054>>506854142>>506855259I fed 2 kills to wraith while trying to defend lanes, and I should have gone gun because I trusted a vindicta to be competent
>>506855498third person mobas are not fun to watch
missions really were the final nail in the coffin for queueing in this game, everyone just throws for the skin now
>>506858415It's a good thing though now any criticism will be met with "but LE hats! Just like my Tf2!!! Remember Tf2???!?!
>>506859094really it just needs to be a side gamemode to win skins but I understand they can't develop that for an alpha, hopefully this experience tells them to never implement it in release
Fast gameForgot betsGomenasorry>>506858415As opposed to people throwing for no reason previously?
BetsI do not know how to lash abusebut I guess I just do my best
>>506859829Just exclusively focus out the squishies like Wraith and Haze, congrats you are now Lash abusing
>>506859829Always go high then attempt to ult whenever it is off CD. You'll make some play eventually
FarmGODS...Gather>"Dude we need to group up more"Nope, not leaving my farm>"Where is x hero we NEED you"Nope, not leaving my farm>"Let's fight for x objective"Nope, not leaving my farm
>>506861220kys
Why do players have such mental block about going for mid boss (even as a bait to force a favorable team fight) compared to much riskier obj play like hard pushing a walker (especially a mid one). The chance of a walker push going wrong and being costly loss is bigger than a mid boss contest
It's not going wellI can't hit a fucking ult because everyone expects it, and the viscous goo-balls then phantom strikes me in the air
>>506862779>>506860065>>506859937>>506859829I got hard carried. I couldn't leave lane because the duo paradox mo and krill just kept the pressure up constantlyI couldn't hit ults because I wasn't used to the range or the momentum so I was never in the right spot, and kept getting knockdown'd and phantomstrike'd lmaoIt was rough, and the build I chose sucked for the situation, so I have much, MUCH to learn for lash
>>506862171because people have a way bigger reaction to a mid boss gone wrong, it sticks in their mind when it fails to the point they are terrified of throwing the game over itactually mid and everything surrounding it including rejuv illustrates how fucking retarded the average player is, like people are ONLY willing to die or make risky plays when they have rejuv even though theoretically by the point thats when kills reward the most souls, people however wont die for objectives beforehand despite them giving less souls and shorter respawn times
>>506856590...and they're even less fun to play!
Help
Okay that last game everyone left cuz I didn't post betsBETS
>>506865829right unless you conjure scarabs very hard
>>506866806>>506865829ResultsMy audio broke completely and I got every like, 15th sound or some shit
BETS
>Marvel Rivals just reached 20 million global players>Deadlock will be lucky to break 5k next month at this rate
>Start playing other characters to unlock their christmas skins>Start having fun with the game againWhat the FUCK
>>506868426>one is finalized game based on massive IP>other is brand new IP still in alpha stage
>>506867776How's a game even end that fast
>>506868534At this rate I don't even see Deadlock making it out of alpha
>>506868534Forgot to mention I'm trans btw
>>506868424Matches are becoming unbalanced againI'm taking a lot of heroes out of my roster until the game decides to stop putting me against stacks and with bricks
bets?
>>506871713HE'S STEALING MY BITBETS
Betsanon is so cute brehs...
>>506872085He seems to be unironically just enjoying the game
>Lash is overtuned but nobody will admit it because he "takes skill">Vindicta and Warden are complete rapists yet people mainly whine about Haze>No matter how safe your team plays there is always going to be a faggot Bebop running echo shard, an overtuned Paradox, or a Mo and Krill that only presses 4 to get an opening kill>Dynamo still overtuned insta win teamfight trash>Yamato still broken dogshit that takes multiple people to kill a good oneGame is in a good state btw
>>506730146People who think this game will come out next year or the year after are absolutely delusional. Deadlock is nowhere near to being finished, especially with heroes like that, as you said. 2028 at best.
>>506873363He makes me proud as a fellow OCE player stuck in the fun, fun hell. (I'm too deep into shitlo to ever meet him tho)
>>506874345Late 2025 for open beta is extremely possible.It just needs a huge art update which they should've been preparing for over a year now, by that time it's gonna be 2 years.And then better balance + some extra heroes by then which again, they've been working on for a while.
>>506874431>It just needs a huge art updatelollmaoretard
>>506871957>finally get to try infernusThis is disgustingIf you started shooting as soon as your flame dash ran out, it'd be so much more broken than it already is, what the fuckAlso I built Quicksilver Bullets and Ricochet, because it felt wrong to have to take so long to fucking reload, and ricochet is funny>>506872085Breh....>>506873363Genuinely I am, even on the shit days, I still enjoy the prospect of the game, it hits me in both the Moba and Movement Shooter parts of my brain that I kept locked away after playing UT99 at LAN parties for years, and various Mobas since I was like 16>>506874382>Stuck in Shitlo eloI'm Emissary 3 now I got a promo just then, you can't be much lower than me
So how exactly will Abrams having a fully modelled prostate help with the fact that McGinnis' wall is fucking annoying for everyone (teammates included)?
>>506871713>>506871957yah well i won AND i got my elfdicta thingi did kind of draw the game out to get it though it shouldve ended like 15 minutes earliergetting my vindicta thing is probably the only time ill ever post somethin like this thoughi think the game keeps placing me too low since im like an initiate 1 seven
>>506875043Lmao I got the infernus one that game tooI don't really chase em, I just play and if I get em, I get emI can't play Vindicta for shit, I don't have the capacity to predict or not predict a shot well enough apparently, it feels janky as shit for me, I think I'd prefer it to just be a high powered shot from third person
>>506875379AnywayBETS
>>506874248Honestly dynamo feels way more fair after the last nerf to his ult CD. If you fuck up a ult early you become a worse kelvin until midgame basically.
is there an actual reason to not go gun dynamo? nigger can sometimes outdps haze
>>506875379some of them you kinda have to go for on purpose like seven and vindicta, flight isnt really something you stay in for a super long time because you get focused really hard, im pretty shitty at sniper stuff too i guess vindicta just works for mein like 2016 i played overwatch and i was like bronze or somethingi kinda like it because it makes me feel cool
>>506875848there's no reason not to go gun anyone
>>506876154>gun lash
>>506876413you heard me the first time
>>506876154except kelvin
>>506876413Is the highest skill build in the game
>>506876413>bounce people up and get free clicks on their head
>>506875520ResultsHaze bought long range and the only reasons I could think she'd do it is for the reload time, or if she was going increased range on her ultOtherwise she's mostly choked for orange slots?
Never thought id get cancer from a seven
>>506878441now buy echo shard
>>506878441was running this with echo shard btw
>>506811745300+ hrs in deadlock since june and its nowhere on my replay wtf?
>>506856590>third person mobas aren't fun to watch>third person battle royales and third person hero shooters are fun to watch because ... THEY JUST ARE OKAY?
>dont play super sweaty>lose lane>listen to teammates fucking implode in VC because they're going to lose rank and tell everyone to report melmao, this shit is funny
https://tracklock.gg/players/1774991475smurfkino
>>506879634Yes, Fortnite is more fun to watch than a guy left click a neutral creep for 40 minutes
>>506840183This game is always shit past the 30 minute markNo idea what's Icefrog smoking
>It's another warp stone refresher Dynamo gameSo fucking cringe
I have no idea where gun Ivy's powerspike isI find it hard to get core, let alone anything higherI don't like that I'm consistently getting Archon games though, I'm definitely not supposed to be up here
Bets
>>506884287Idk what build you run but probably burst fire
How likely is it that the forced 50 rape matches I'm in are just against stacks
>>506884751THE MIRAGEWAS ORACLE 2WHAT IS HAPPENING TO MY MMRSTOP
>>506886860that's what happens when you suddenly bleed thousands of players
>wraith is gonna be broken garbage until the new yearsnah yeah fuck off
>>506888074Abramsnigger detected
don't care about rankdon't care about losingdon't care about buttblasted teammates in VCwill continue building shit like echo shard stomp melee ivy because it's funny
Wake me up when initiates get matched with green niggers.
I think that's my last one for todayIt's been over 12 hours and I can feel myself playing worse
4 skins so far, had to throw one on kelvin just to get the fucking thing
I can't believe people defend the gameplay of heroes like Dynamo and Mo>Hold W >Press 4>Sometimes sit off to the side so you can get a sneaky 4
I can't believe people don't defend the gameplay of heroes like Dynamo and Mo>Hold W >Press 4>Sometimes sit off to the side so you can get a sneaky 4
>"Every character should just have to house m1 and point at stuff"Just go play valorant you retard
>>506895754>If you don't like ultbot gameplay you just want m1 gameplayRetard
>>506894412>quantum entanglement is one of the most busted skills in the game>but it's his ult you point out
It's funny because Dynamo can also be a M1 hero if you max out his 1
>>506897062His entire kit is busted doesn't mean people don't ultbot him
>>506895604that dynamo shot your ass full of holes you simpletonMo is honest, he only gets to grab one person and unless they're low & he's invested a ton into spirit items they're probably going to live
>Mo is honest>Tanktard>Press 4 to win gameplay>10 trillion range disarm>Get out of jail free cardSure
>>506900824What is mo get out of jail free card? Because burrow is not that good to escape, and unless you are really fucking up it will always be on CD.
>>506901019It increases your speed and reduces basically all damage taken while being up like every 30 seconds if not maxxed out it basically is
It sucks to escape with anon, it is not as fast as just dash jumping, it uses up your main damage skill and most of the paths you can take while burrowing sucks ass to disengage since you cant jump over anything.
>>506906685anon new hero??
>enemy team accuse you of being a cheaterno higher praise
Kelvin's beam is absolute garbage>no range>no dps>status build up is non-existentWHAT THE FUCK IS THATWHYI DON'T CARE IF THE COOLDOWN IS SHORTWHO THE FUCK'D WANT TO USE IT??!!1?!
>>506916301it's great for applying spirit effects and gives you something to do while reloading.
>>506875848because your job is to be an ult bot like the gay little slave that you are
>>506916604If my team can't kill the enemy in a base blackhole then we've already lost, building for ult is an overkill winmore strategy
Do skin unlocks work in hero labs?
>>506916301Bro never used the beam to zone people out from under their own towers.
>>506920891no it isnt but you are a dynamo player so it is to be expected that you are a retard
>got most kills on team, mosr assists on server, and 0 deathsI finally got to experience the joy of being fed
>>506915827I look down on smokers more than probably any other group of people.
I would like to report that I have broken top 500 on my main herothank you
6/22 and I already want to kill myselfit's weird how having some additional objective completely nukes your interest in the game
>>506915827I hate women so fucking much holy shit
this game stinks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-8TurMuhCo
>>506915827Made for choking
>reading the tf2 comic>barabait marasmus>immediately recognize it's the artist behind the vnabramsbros???
>get guy that is always on the enemy team and never on mine, consistently carries hard and is a nightmare to deal with>he completely shits the bed on my teamwhat in the goddamn
>>506924838If you actually need 10 seconds of a 15m aoe stun to get a kill then you are the retard my guy
>>506945413this is the exact kind of retarded strawman I would expect a dynamo to come up with
>>506902253You forgot to mention how it's the only get out of jail free card that gets actually punished by CC
>>506946176Nice non argument, will continue to win with my 3.5s 9m BASE ult
new abrams model makes him look like hasan piker please revert
>>506728281forced ranked, balancing away from player fighting and focusing more on farming, etc. the game up until the end of summer was very fun and briskly paced, so even if the game was lost you could still jump into another game without a sweat. oh, and all new heroes being thrown into a meme mode
>>506728281>>506949434making it so games last 40 minutes average unironically killed the game.
>>506949553yes, the number 1 praise everyone had for this game was the 25-30 minute matches, increasing it was a mistake. dunno who to blame, was yoshi listening too much to retarded farm trannies on the discord?
>>506949771Only the high ranks had short games, potato 5 was always 50minutes avg
>>506950315iirc, even the longer shitty matches were 40 at most over the summer. hero labs is probably better for valve so they can actually push out a big cast, but it turned off roughly 100,000 players who love to see new heroes in the real mode
>>506950315wood 4 had far more 20 min games back in july.
>>506950567The issue I remember with the "average" game being 25-30 was that it wasn't the median but the mean so actual 30m games were less common than the 20m and the 40m
>>506946537I wasnt arguing with you, I was calling you a retard because youre a retard
>sub 7k people>15 minutes of waiting for a matchyep its dead
every single match is like 1 kill 10 deathsnot exaggeratingmatch making system fucking me hard
>>506951250I get matches 2-5 seconds after using search, as Vindicta
>>506951250because its fucking shit
>>506951195Strawman is an argument term but you knew that and now resort to ad hominemYou got btfo by logic and should probably just concedeand stop building ult like a retard
>>506951816>youre arguing so I use an argument term for your post>Im not arguing so I call you a retard because youre a retard>implying Id be a dynamocukc(I have hands and triple digit iq)
I accept your concession
>btfo so utterly he stopped replyingdynamocuck status: asshole blown wide open
Page 10Also average Jonas builds ult (he is bad)
>>506951604Sounds like a you problem if you can't adapt by playing more cautiously
>queue into a match>leave it but don't abandon it>go to hero sandbox>you can now unlock the christmas tasks from therethe only one you can't unlock is miku's skin, but hers is piss easy so whatever
>>506960810just ask enemy team to let you do it, nicely
>>506960810can I unlock them in bot matches?
>>506964361no
>>506730146The heroes of Deadlock are insanely boring and safe because of "muh e-sports pro gamer wannabe" crowd that always talks about MUH BALANCE. They need to stop listening to these retards, embrace the fun and chaos and rework all heroes with whacky bat shit insane abilities, completely disregarding balance altogether.They're not gonna do that though. They'll just add loot boxes, cosmetics shop and battle pass to skinner box the player count and then pretend like people are playing the game because it's well designed and not because of gambling addiction.
This game is just fucking gayEverything about it is so annoying
>>506965349>hey need to stop listening to these retards, embrace the fun and chaos and rework all heroes with whacky bat shit insane abilities, completely disregarding balance altogether.nothing would make people ragequit faster than if there were handful of viable picks that made everything else obsolete
>>506965349>completely disregarding balance altogetherretard
>>506965781>>506965904>muh balanceYou just proved his point lmao
>>506965781>>506965904Back to your Deadlock discord safe space you go
>>506965349This is quality bait, I applaud you anon
>>506965349The worst thing is that you look over at Marvel Rivals and they have shit like Dr. Strange's portal. And you think that's original and cool until you realize Dota 2 already basically had that ability and all Valve had to do was copy it. But instead we get Raven who has yet another grenade, yet another jump, and just Wraith's 3.
>>506965904every game you think is "unbalanced fu"n has had a lot of thought put into the balancepeople wont want to engage with something they feel is unfairthe last thing deadlock needs right now is to become unbalanced lol
every site has a different claim for paradox's skin which one is it>3 kills while slowing>hit all your abilities 3 times>get 3 kills while airborne
>>506946421>CC Mo while burrowed>Nothing happens and the CC is wasted
>>506967586why are we now acting like all of ravens abilities aren't work in progress? pretty sure the only reason they put him in the game is because they did an art pass on him, he doesn't even have a voice
>>506968402Just do all 3 at the same time
>>506966239The only people advocating for a complete lack of balance are the metaslaves abusing overpowered heroes, every game that's balanced poorly retards like you spring up>UM ACKTUALLY BALANCE IS BAD AND THE GAME SHOULD HAVE EVERYTHING BE OP!! Genuine retardation
Anyone here interested in ACTUALLY discussing the game? What are some things you think yoshi should try out in the game?
>>506969196I think they should do more stuff like these easter egg challenges for the christmas skins. It's really fun.
>>506969196other gamemodes I.E finally make use of the 1v1 map that's in the game files also a toggable feature where you can queue up into an already existing match that has an abandoned player (I've never seen that in any other game and I don't know why)
>>506969196i also think there should be more stupid casual shit, games stopping for everyone to just fuck around and trying to unlock the skins reminded me of heyday tf2
>>506969567>>506969921Do you guys think its a good idea to leave the unlock requirements unknown or should there be some sort of hint?
>>506970207it's fine for them to be unknown for nowI think the game could benefit from steam achievements with some rewards like tf2, cs2 and dota don't have them because it would ruin the competitive environment but that's gay and no fun
>>506970207It's more fun for it to be unknown. Makes unlocking them a communal thing.
>>506969196I think we should discuss the mo x krill fanfic I found on AO3 instead
>>506970730post it
>>506969196I think there should be some experimentation with characters with form swaps. That being, they have an ability that swaps them to a different character with a different set of abilities. Maybe a werewolf who has an ult to go wolf mode, or an insane clockwork hivemind that cycles through configurations (AKA which voice is currently in control)More abilities that bounce off walls/the groundAlso gimme a necromancer. I don't care if its something stupidly weak, I wanna do necromancer shenanigans.
>>506970971https://archiveofourown.org/works/61347979I'm not gonna read it myself, but here you are Momosexual
>>506968874it's clearly not the slow one unless killing someone with carbine doesn't count, I was like 13 kills in one game and never got the skin
Geist's festive form looks fucking stupid
>>506969196More physics engine bullshit would be nice. Viscous is current the only hero focused on it, and healing beam is the only active that gets much use out of physics fuckery
I hate this game
>>506971139it's so-so. I didn't get hard.
>>506971859We should get a rocket jump hero.
I failed to get any christmas skins today, very sad.
how in the actual fuck do you get the paradox skin?I swear to god I've killed 4+ enemies every match with either the bomb or the carbine
Infuser on seven is literally life changing. He actually feels kinda good in lane with it.>>506972752Rutger, eventually.
>>506973982You have to land a 360 headshot with carbine, people have been toggling aimbots to do it
>>506972726how about this>mo gives you a hug
>>506974087:)
>>506949065>t. https://files.catbox.moe/lqfp6l.mp4
>>506969196I would like a smaller game mode in the full game that's like 4v4 on two lanes or something similar, or even 3v3 or 2v2 on a single lane.It would be an interesting, short form way to hone some teamwork when you only have one of your boys online, like Wingman in counter strike
even when I stomp as yamato it's pretty hard to get multiple resets, does it still count if you refresher and ult mid ult
>>506965349>They need to stop listening to these retards, embrace the fun and chaos and rework all heroes with whacky bat shit insane abilities, completely disregarding balance altogether.People under the age of 30 on any game discussion website will not remember a time -- with the exception of Smash Bros, I guess -- when every multi-player game was "balanced" to make the game fun.
>>506975694They put a lot of thought into making smash bros balancedoutside of items
>>506975235you just need 2, its pretty easy to get during a midboss fight
I just want cookie Seven, man.
>>506975694>P-Please don't touch my overpowered bullshit you're getting in the way of my fun You can have well thought out and fun kits without being overly oppressive cancer that's only "fun" for the person on them, see Viscous and Lash.
>>506976425Paradox is the most anti-fun character and everytime they nerf her I'm happy.
I HATE DEADLOCK
>>506976589Paradox isn't a well done kit because it just encourages you to do the same combo over and over again, it's very rigid. Same thing for a hero like Pocket. Heroes like Viscous and Lash are very dynamic, and have skillful interactions beyond just "lol I press buttons in this sequence!"
phew thank god i play chadlock and not sissywatch
Hero for this feel?
>>506978914Kino
/tf2g/ is laughing at us
No we aren't
>>506979587um this isn't the overwatch general though?
Tf2 trannies can't laugh at us they're probably mistreated more by Valve
>>506978914MO AND KRILLLLLLL
>played 2 matches of ult Seven>lost both but I got the cookie skinWe're so f*cking back bros.
>lose>lose>lose>next match go up against 2 hackersyep that's the deadlock experiance
>>506981012Good job. One day I'll get it, maybe
>>506976339it's a stomp and in emi nobody is midbossing without one of the teams dead
I'm just getting tired, I don't want stomps one way or another. It's clear just how uneven every match is despite forced rank mmr.
>>506983285I blame stacks more than anything else
>>506983398That's probably the biggest reason for the stomps right now.
>>506983481It'd be nice if you had confirmation right off the bat too instead of feeling like a dogshit player
>>506983980Well I'd still be a dogshit player even if the game told me.
>>506976189They really don't, though. Look at any tier list, and the wild disparity of quality between top tiers and bad characters.
>>506983980I don't have to be dogshit I know these motherfuckers aren't emi one direction or another, it wasn't this sweaty or this easy before
>50 minute match>losei hate this game
if it's gonna continue being this bad can we just get vote ff I'm not fucking playing out a game where we went 15 minutes without taking any towers and having lost all ours
6 losses in a rowthats epicand matches are over 30 minutesso thats over 3 hours of losingepic
>>506986713it's the death spiral, good matchmaking requires concurrent players, game gets shittier the more people lose interest
https://old.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1hio2e8/is_anyone_else_losing_their_mind_playing_pocket/>my bullshit hero got nerfed and is too hard now ):>btw nerf haze pleaseif this game dies it's partly because the community is retarded
>hazeniggers whininganother nerf next patch :)
The best part about playing Mo and krill is you can ensure nobody on the enemy team can snowball. You can just focus the highest value target on the other team and kneecap them.
>>506992727And despite being so strong he will likely get another buff
>>506992727The problem is when there are TWO fed opponent
>>506994207Just send Mo to fight one and krill to fight the other.
could have just had an abandoned game instead it became christmas skin farming where half the players were trolling and a chinese guy just pves the whole time so he could be 74k
So either1. The doomposters were right and the game is mostly done including models, hence the skins2. The dev team is REALLY lagging behind so they thought they would give cute temp skins since even updating the models is ages awayGrim.
>>506995681some of the skins are literal palette swaps + the same copypaste elf hatthis shit took 1 guy like 2 hours to make
>>506995681The game is basically finished, most of the work left to be done is all cosmetic. Icefrog is a total retard and struggles for years to balance the game around one map and one game mode whereas other moba dev teams have multiple game modes and maps.
>complaining about free shit in an alphashoo
>>506996197Toxic positivity kills games, see concord you dumb bitch
anyone else just having miserable games that were decided at 10 minutes, like why should I tryhard to bring it back when infernus kills me without shooting
>>506996729I've been having pretty good games and an upward trend in my win %
>>506996948Is it due to you actually improving as a player do you think or are you getting carried more
>half of heroes skin requirements>just play the game :)>the other half>get three consecutive kills (NOT ASSISTS) while hitting every ability 12 times also you have to kill them with active items and only on tuesday
Who has the most obnoxious playerbase (after Haze of course)My vote goes for Lash or Mo
>>507000472ivy
>>507000472the hall of fame cunts are pocket, wraith and sevenevery time theres a whiny faggot on the team its one of these
>>506920891this is trueults are already good enough, you don't need to waste souls to improve them
I FUCKING GOT COOKIE SEVEN YES>>506997448I like to think it's the former. I've been making changes to my gameplay incrementally and I'm slowly settling into a stronger game presence
>>507000472I dunno but I primarily play Mirage, Shiv, Vindicta, and Bebop. What does that say about me?
>oracle 5i feel like i'm in the fucking aimgod bracket now, constantly getting hazes and mirages and mcginnis' that dont miss any of their shots. it sure is ANNOYING
>>507004770Yeah I feel ya. Playing seven is rough with my giga big head
haze ult is a million times more fair than dynamo's
>>507006339Careful you'll rile up the retards that actually think Dynamo takes a brain
>>507006808its just the one dynamocuck
my winrate in my past 64~ matches (4 most recent pages) is 65.6%
>enemy vindicta dies 4 times in lane>says "i am afk, end pls"Are these league players?
>>507008947I've been having a lot of rage quitters lately. The higher the rank the worse it seems to get.
>>507007401I've actually gotten better as I've gone up in rank, pretty happy with my results and greater than 50% win rate
>>507007401The problem with my winrate is that when I play solo I win most of my matches, but then when I play with my friend I lose most of them.
>>507010014My friend drags down our lobbies so I have easy ass games with him, can't relate lul
>>507010084My friend just doesn't communicate. Not even with me. He just plays the game as if its a singeplayer game or something. It creates unwinnable scenarios.
>>507010158That's an interesting problem. My brother is like that, with long multiplayer matches in any game he just zones out and shuts down
It's been rough.
>>507010901Man you play a lot of characters huh
>>507010337The problem is that none of my friends are moba players. I mean technically I'm not either since deadlock is the first moba I've played, but I picked up the needed skills pretty quickly.
>>507011370I have one friend who's a good shooter player who just completely floundered and couldn't get into it, like 0/16/1 every game no matter what. Funnily, he acknowledges that Deadlock is conceptually cool and the gameplay and systems are good, but he says it's just too much for his brain to handle. My other casual gamer friend picked up how to play after like 5 games of feeling around and not we play together regularly and do really well. Just one of those things I guess
>>507011660I have two friends like both of your examples and the shooter player is the only one who will play the game with me, it kinda sucks. The more casual player can't aim for shit but he also liked to play Dynamo when he actually played this game and did really well on him, but because he can't aim he doesn't want to play the game anymore because he just thinks he's going to feed and lose games despite that not really being true.
>>507011213I have all of them selected but mostly get a few.
>>507010158Hi am your friend. I do communicate funny things, but im not playing pretend esports in VC. As a compromise i allow him to trashtalk me being stupid and dying in lane.
>>507010901Up to 7 losses now.
>Team fighting over nothing>Team fighting over nothing>Help team one time>All leave and start to farm>Stop after that>Team fighting over nothing
>YUGE update>still no posts about it in the thread 30 minutes laterhttps://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/12-21-2024-update.52206/>veil walker buffed slightly and raised to 6k item (dead)>6k items now literally cost 6k>slow fixed (2m/s is minimum)game is saved
>wraith untouched
>>507017630>buff vindictas crow to being broken>oh lets just nerf assassinate AGAINit gets nerfed every fucking patch
A fuckingInfernusNerfWhat the fuck
what the fuck was the point of making veil walker a T4? to fuck over pocket who always bought it? I can't ever see anyone buying it again unless it gets more changes. I don't mind it just think other characters also depended on it too now got fucked over.
>>507018467I liked to buy it on gun viscous if I was ahead, along with barriers. If I was behind I'd go fortitude into armors, at this point I'll probably just only go fortitude armor build now.
>>507017916True she needs a buff after they nuked her>>507017630>Veil walker nerfedGood>Warden and Yamato slap on the wrist nerfExpected and cringe>Vindicta assassinate nerf>As if that's the egregious part of her kit currentlyLmaoHonestly they did one good thing. My expectations are so low that's enough to impress me.
>>507017630update also had 0 changes to herolabs characters
>>507018467Shield items are too strong in general, and veilwalker is the strongest shield item since it does not get disabled by taking damage. It was long coming, specially after they added more veils to the map.
Vindicta bros...We got a stealth buff..
>>507019145what does that even mean
mogril
>le MOOOO AND KRILLLL xD *holds up spork*
>doomposters running rampant while I'm gone todayFuck y'allBETS
>>507017630>- Spellslinger Headshots: Cooldown is now on a per target basis rather than on the item itself (this is a buff/flexibility improvement)>this is a buffdo they really have to explain that now?
>>507022489you have abrams = you lose
>>507023092Even this thread struggles with understanding what is a buff and what is a nerf
>>507023373I think Abrams players feed more nowadays because people have actually gotten better and know the counterplay against them so they can't mindlessly hold W (they still do though)
> comeback after a week straight of PooE2> game feels off> play two more games> not angry. not excited. not fun. just boredwell. that was it for me. hope they can actually do something with this game.so that scrificing dota was worth itgood luck in your games anons
>>507024008>phoneposterFuck off
>>507022489>>507023373I did nothin this match, desuI sorta AFK pushed a bit, decided to join fights towards the end but the Warden really, REALLY dislikes me apparently
>Win lane against someone cleanly>They focus me all game and feed sometimes just to try to kill meAt first this kind of shit entertained me, now it's just annoying. Tales from shitlow I guess.
BETSWasn't gonna round 2 before bed but whatever
>>507024829Right team simply for Dynamo and Pocket
>>507024008>> comeback after a week straight of PooE2anon, you played a skinner box for a whole week, of course you're not going to feel anything
>>507025779WrongRight because of a feeding leaver
>>507026407this kek, that's like being on meth for a week straight then going cold turkey and taking a fishing trip
>>507026543>mcginnis bought 2 healbanes>haze was the only one with debuff reducer>no reactive barriers other than mine>lash had leap, sprint boots, improved CD, improved burst, refresher>Emissary 5What the FUCK
>>507018146>rushes dash and rapid recharge>does nothing but run the entire game because he has a free heal on short cooldown with infuser (a 500 item)The only decent nerf this patch even if it was a slap on the wrist
>the ivy on the enemy team that forced me to play wraith this match>I'm Emissary 3
How do I go back to obscurus?
>>507027760Yeah that was a lossEnemy vindicta has 200+ vindicta gamesI am taking gun builds out of my rotation and building spirit. Every cunt under the fucking sun builds gun now so there's a quadrillion shields being grabbed.
Well that was my last for the nightI need to practice wraith moreHer lane feels really hard to 1v1 in, and I can't ever make fucking space to just push up here without my ass being gaped by their team reactionThankfully my team carried me and I did my best not to feed
>>506785225I have not seena russian in this game yet because they're too dumb to play or valve is keeping me contained in my american server only, which frankly is great because the worst part of Dota was huehues and russians
>>507029184You can't Pandora box has been opened. You cab make new account but never unlearn the horror that is optimal play
>>506967586>read this post>check out raven's kit>its built around slowing turn rates, being behind people, and forcing your opponent to look awayA playstyle that not only doesnt exist in rivals but cant exist in dota 2 or lol
>>507018146giving him a charged dash was probably the most retarded thing they could do, he already just saved it to run away from every altercation but now he gets more lmao
>>507038626Every single one of those things is in Dota, just not all on the same hero.
>>507038626I guess riki and Medusa don't exist huh you dumb fucking faggot.
>>507038626
Anyone besides geist I can go full spirit on?
>>507040859Geist's ult is so crazy, a health swapping ability literally doesn't exist in any other video game.
Just found out that the game does in fact dock you MMR for losing games where someone on your team leaves. Lost 4 in a row due to getting shitters who want the fucking skins and leave when they don't get them immediately, and got docked an entire rank for it. How is it that Splatoon gets this right (leaver gets a loss but it doesn't count for anyone else on their team) but Valve can't figure it out?
>>507042528It's messes with the mmr system, by giving the winner points and the lovers none it creates inflationThe real solution is leavers lose x6 mmr to equal their whole teams
>>507041854>literally doesn't exist in any other video gamenot sure if serious
>>507042528Why are you obsessing over mmr in an alpha
>>507038626I don't get how turn rate slowing is going to work in a shooter. Can't you just hike up your sensitivity to negate that shit?
>>507043240The winners really shouldn't get any mmr either in a game with leavers.
>abrams on my team is a whiny white boy that's threatening to throw the game because we're "stealing" his kills and preventing him from getting his holiday chungus skin
>>507046142right now yeah
>>507047582Yea but they would bitch about wasted time, better to just dump on the leaver imo
This was possibly the most lopsided game I have ever played in my life. The Wraith I was up against I only killed him 3 times and he left, I went to the other lane, they started dying a lot and there went all the enemy team en masse.The truth is that I felt sorry for them and I think that because of games like that people just leave the game :(
>>507050901>alchemist rankFor your sake I hope you're brand new to the game because that's literally new player rank
>>507051137I've been playing for almost 100 hours and the only one with the game moderately well is Mirage.I don't take mmr very seriously either, I just go in to play :)
Do you have to play specific characters to climb out of shitlow?I like Ivy but she's no Warden
>>507046142The solution would be to do a turn rate cap rather than turning down sensitivity but Volvo doesn't need to know that, the ability is obnoxious enough that I hope they just rework it
I seriously hate this fucking gameMost annoying game ever made
I seriously love this fucking gameMost fun game ever made
>>507008947I cant blame themThe game design is retarded at its coreYou are forced into a FIFTEEN MINUTE 1V1And if the other person is better than you, its just you getting raped for 15 minutes, why play that?
>>507053664you're not forced into it. you always have a choice
>>507051319Sounds like you tilt Mirage wins lane pretty ez so you will usually be in a good mental in the midgame
>>507054649Sounds like you can't read, they said they won lane and the other guy quit, retard.
>>5070536641v1s are fun thoughbeit
>>507058292Well the 90% of players that left didn't think soIts also basic psychology that is too long and draining of a thing for a human to focus on, especially whilst they are losing and the enemy is growing stronger as they loseIf you compare it to other games you see how insane it isHow long is a round of tekken/street fighter, 45 seconds? its like losing 20 rounds of tekken in a row and the enemy grows stronger each time
>>507059102>Well the 90% of players that left didn't think sohow do you know it was the 1v1's they didnt like
>>507059159just obviousThat's the most personal, intense moment of the match. Losing in that feel much worse than dying in a team fight
>>507059375>just obviousno it isn't
>>507059436Yeah it is lolBasic psychologyLosing in a team game like football feels less worse than losing in a 1v1 game like tennisYou lose in a 1v1 your brain knows it was all your fault, cant spread out the blame and lessen the negative feelingAlso a broool moment lasts a minute or 2the lanning phase is you getting ass raped for 15 minutes if the other person is better
>>507059778>Yeah it is lol>Basic psychologyare you 12?
>>507059778Dying in a team fight (especially late game) is not fun because you only have 1/6th of the impact of the fight and it often feels like nothing you could've done would've kept you alive. And then you have to sit in respawn for a minute.Dying in a solo lane is fun because the death was entirely your fault and gives you a chance to reflect on what you did wrong and improve your gameplay. And it only lasts a few seconds which lets you get back into the fight instantly.
>>507059917Weak retort desu, nta btw
>>507060045You are weak です
Veil Walker being a 6k item kinda does make sense since it's like having both improved armors effectively and they're 4.5k each.
>>507058226Kys It's clear if you only enjoy strong layers your mental is garbage
>>507060245whats she up to these days anyways, the desu market crashed during the tranition to the '10s
>play really well early game>last half of the game I'm hate crimed every single time a team fight starts and I die instantly>but the enemy team overextends everytime in order to kill me and half of them die>this wins us the game>but I did not have funWow, team fights are so much more fun than solo laning.
>>507060296
>>507060545>the desu market crashed during the tranition to the '10sbut anon, we traded DESU stocks on this very site only short 8 months and 20 days ago
>vindicta nerfsI just don't get it man
>>507060041An average or below average player isnt going to be thinking things like thatOnly the 10% mega autists that stick around like us
>>507062903I'm an average or below average player and I think like that.But I also play fighting games so the 1v1 mindset is pretty baked into my brain.
I predict we're going to plateau at 16/8k peaks unless the next patch is absolute garbage.We can't go any lower than that, right?
>>507063226your the average of the 10% of mega autists that are still playing
>>507046142>>507052657>remove tranq gun from tf2 because it's fucking annoying>add it to deadlock and make it function the same
>>507062847Honestly, the ult hitting 400 damage as soon as you level it up paired with the new stake was pretty fucking horrible to play against.>laning against vindicta>even lane>one bad trade>she gets ult, bodyshots you for 400 hp>snowballs for the rest of the game
>>507064608That goes for most of the cast especially after they get ult.
>55 minute long match>Don't feel good i won>Just relived i didn't lose
>>507064608honest to god Im starting to think people dont know what vindicta does and just assume she gets a thousand souls for sniping someone the moment she hits 3k souls
>>507065456Yeah, but not everyone has 400 damage bodyshots with 3 charges and low cd.
>>507064608i dont get why she gets extra souls for her ult kills
>>507066774she's like sniper from dota, except without being able to blast you cross-map
>>507067231i dont get why vindicta and sniper from dota get extra souls for their ult kills
Every match is 1 kill 10 deathsWhy is match making doing this to me
>4 months ago people were raging on mic at others >90% of everyone is gone nowi'm assuming the players uptight enough to sperg out in voice are the ones still playing and have driven off everyone else
>two feeders on my team>and an ultra-rat mcginnis on the enemy teamat least I got my festive
so what the specific patch that the game started to die? it was the mandatory ranked patch right? still trying to figure out what turned off everyone, did they enlarge the map too? one of the things I liked from entering the game back in early May was the tight map and more focus on skirmishes compared to farming
>>507070317No, before that the playercount was already steadily decreasing, but forced ranked is probably also getting rid of the more competitive part of the playerbase.
>>507070317if it was any specific changes it was changing party queues so that streamers couldn't play together anymorebut really it was people getting tired of beta testing
>>507069561>Every matchIf it's every match that's probably a pretty major skill issue desu
>>507070317People realized playtesting isn't the same as playing, and would rather just play the finished, stable game Also, a huge amount of fotm streamsloppas came and left
>>507071641>they'll all come back I hope, can't lie, I enjoyed the game with it was just matchmaking and all players sorted by MMR, definitely got 2-3 great matches to make up for the crappy ones. now it's just playing with anti social teenagers
MMR this early in the test and no option to reset rank is disgusting
>>507070317its the game at its core, that's why people are leavingits just a continuous downwards slope a few weeks after everyone was allowed to play
>>507072216mmr is absolutely necessary, smurfs are already killing new player interest
>>507071454Yeah obviously im not as skilled as the people i am playing against, thats what im sayingWhy am i not being put in a lower rank
>>507071913My belief is not based on hope but rather lack thereof. I don't think in the current environment of video games you can have a multiplayer game subsist of just being fun and good, you need some kind of progression, fomo, mtx, etc etc to retain players. It's kind of sad and I wish that wasn't the case but I can't help but think that's literally the only way to get and retain players these days
>>507072238it was an upward climb for the first months of playing, now even the dudes who spent most evenings playing the game put it down. something happened with the game, I still think it was the forced ranked putting all the semi-pro casuals with the cheaters and mic ragers
>>507072238I don't think so, people say every MOBA is shit at it's core and they're still hugely successful
>>507070317streamers are like a pack of vultures, picking at fresh meat until there's nothing left but bones, and then they move onto the next carrion. life before twitch was good and it's a distant memory now
>>507073058this is true, you can see the trend in every fotm game for the past two years
>>507072756I think it being an fps is more energy draining and makes things feel worseLike shooting someone for ages and them not dying just feels like you are playing a crap shooter
>>507074159Perhaps. I suppose we'll see
>hey dynamo, come to my laneI wish people would clarify who they are and what lane, because I have no fucking idea who's talking.
>>507076629The VC symbol lingers for a second so you can glance up. If I miss it I just say>Who said that?/Who needs help? I didn't seeAnd they fill me in from then forward
>2 days and 19 hours agoLocktards...
>>507077014>expecting a dyanmo to have any awarenessthey can barely press 4 give them a break
Everyone apologize to inhousechads.
>>507079410No, they were all weird at best and mean at worst
>>507072370>smurfsIn what bracket exactly?
>6 stacks away from Bebop skinI'm sick of being in Phantom where you can't just kill 20 people every match
>>507080889have you ever surprised a debuff remover buyer by double bombing yourself and then hooking them after
loss after loss no kills many deathsi think people might be leaving because the match making system is terriblejust setting people up to have a terrible time 10 matches in a row
I got it literally on my last kill before I died and the game ended
>>507085286don't know what the retards in charge are doing when they decided that merging ranked and normal together was somehow a good idea and that it only ended up enabling the sweats and smurfs to come out in force and with rampant hacking. love the fact that all my games have a haze in it in which there's a 50% chance that she's aimbotting
>>507063287I legitimately think the only way to save this game is to put in a deathmatch mode, speed it up, and make it Overwatch. It's not even the patches, it's more that people realized that>no content treadmill>it's secretly Dota in disguiseThey tuned out, the quality of the patches did nothing for making people leave, but they certainly didn't make them stay either.
Aren't Ivy's mines kinda useless outside of brools?They do good dot but there's no initial explosion so building into them is kinda ass without gun items.
>>507086416if only there was some source of soul income that stayed absolutely still
Legit question: Why are there times I absolutely and utterly fucking melt enemies, and other times I can't even seem to hurt them no matter how many times I shoot, melee, ability, etc them? I genuinely do not understand. Played a game as Yamato and was completely and utterly shitting on this Mo and Krill, every time I saw him I was just owning his ass. Yet there's times where I use my 2, 1, 3, regular attacks, melees, and ultimate, and it's like I can't even deal 30% damage to some people. I truly do not know why; is there some fundamental game mechanic I am missing?
>>507086619items?
>>507086619>is there some fundamental game mechanic I am missing?armor and damage reduction items?you're only raping people that follow some random build to a T
>>507086363They definitely need to have less one-itis than Dota has. Wasting the framework on a single ASSFAGGOTS map would be a huge mistake.
>>507086416They are extremely useful in nearly all ways except direct damage. Stunned enemies will be ass raped by it. Massive area of denial on lane that forces enemies to take damage to engage or retreat. Completely poops on minions. Also does good damage to towers/etc. Also very good for team fights because it's hard to keep track of where it is at all times and at the very least gives 'passive' damage to all enemies in the area. You're not going to be dumping out like a Yamato 1 level of direct damage but if you aren't careful or don't have spirit resist/armor you will get fucked up.
>>507086854>>507086813Yeah I get they can have spirit or bullet armor but there's times where I am seriously doing every single thing possible to hurt enemies and even though they should eventually lose their armor[s] it's like they're invincible. It's almost like they never lose the armor despite me dishing out as much damage/abilities as possible.
>>507072475The game was on steep decline way before the forced rank change. There were too many extreme changes that made the game feel like shit. The patch where you could share souls throughout the entire game was so fucking bad.
>>507080889i got his pretty easily (also phantom)i'm on a 5 winstreak with George&Floyd and can't get his. I hate that it makes you want to wait on using combo and discouraging using it to initiate.
>>507087374barriers/shields and armor are differentyou can't break the armor items, they just provide flat resistances to your HP pool. anyone stacking HP will buy armor instead of shields because it effectively doubles their HP
I did it! i won a game!i got ranked down 5 placesbut then i got to win a game!
>>507086619THISSometimes i do no fucking damage, and i check their items after i die and they dont have bullet resist or anything
>>506968402 (me)I confirmed it's actually 3 kills while airborne, so the wiki was the correct one
>6 wins in a row, no skini guess i'm gonna have to throw
>>507070317
>>507092140Tanktarding is just that easy damn
>>507087670It's an alpha playtest nigger Don't play it off you don't want to test extreme changesLots of people can't handle that, and that's fine. Playtesting =/ Playing
>>507092831seething aimfag
>>507093052I play honest tanks like Shiv and Abrams :^)
This game is dogshit
>>507087670Extreme changes is a good thing you fucking donkey, the MAIN problem has been the LACK of extreme changes or new content
>>507093415>shiv>honestLul
>>507093652This is such fucking nonsenseA good game doesn't need constant added contentAnd the people that left obviously didn't leave due to "lack of content", they probably never played more than 1 or 2 characters
>>507093652That's completely wrong, my casual friends complained to me when I tried to play with them that it was too difficult to keep up with all the changes because they happen so often and are so drastic.
>>507086619Match number? Its probably armors + items that give resist on hit + actives
What fucking extreme changes? Wall jumping that got added 4 or 5 months ago? They are not doing anything with the game. "Walkers now has 1% bullet resist" updates are not real updates.
>>507094280They got rid of wreckers cool ult and his unique 1 ability and replaced it with a generic grenade.
i love those games where all 6 people on your team feed from the start
that matchmaker sure does get quirky sometimes
>>507095196nobody cares about cuck labs
>>507095380Your mom cares about my dick
>>507093652You wouldve loved overwatch's esports scene
>>507095196his unique 1 was impossible to hitI like the new ult but I didn't get to play much with old wrecker
>>507095738Is that any excuse to just turn it into another grenade?
>>507095973it only gets the stun from a direct hit and it's still weightier and delayed, still feels good.
>>507096106The physics were the entire appeal
>>507093831The game is in alpha you fucking retard, THAT'S why they should be mixing shit up. Every day with this thread it's flip flopping, one day you guys are treating it like a finished game the next it's all "dude it's an alpha">>507093941No offense but your friends sound retarded
>>507096257the appeal for me was being a dumb monster throwing a big rockholliday still gets the physics ability on her barrel
made it back to oracle...im gonna go pro....
TWO games in a row where the entire team feeds all at once from the start of the game!
>>507095441this is a falsehood propped up by your frustration that he is right
>>507096359those are different peoplethe "muh alpha" people are coping
Happy Sunday Morning /dlg/Apparently I dreamed of trying to implement a hero with a gimmick like Draven catching his axes into Deadlock, and the best I could come up with was a Knife Juggler/Thrower (I assume Coney Island had one at one point, and I think that's in New York?)He has a passive that is basically just a port of Draven's "Catch it and get bonus attack speed" thing, but I was apparently imagining adding bonuses for catching it in the air or something, like catching one mid-air adds a bounce to your next throw, trying to take advantage of the movementThe only other ability I could think up was a big wheel he could summon as his ult at a point of his choosing (reasonably far distance) that he can bounce knives off to hit nearby enemies.It has multiple colours and spins, and depending on the colour he hits on it, provides a different effect to the bounced knife (a slow, lifesteal, bonus spirit damage, etc)I am not looking forward to queuing again today, Archon scares me and I want to try new heroes
>>507098129why are you referring to yourself in the third person?
>>507092959>It's an alpha playtest niggersoon it will be a playtest with no playtesters, lmao
THIRD game in a row where the entire team feeds or gives up
>>507099712>fart rank
>If an enemy player gets raped and ragequits it's a coinflip if their team wins because my entire team might dcFucking lol
>>507098715Okay I thought about this a little more and realized I neglected to dream about how he would confirm and deny soulsI think he'd have an alt-fire that throws a smaller, faster knife that doesn't have the gimmick, that has a faster fire-speed so you could effectively rapid-fire use your ammo (but you have low ammo anyway).I also had a thought about ways to reward the catching of knives better to offset the ability for the enemy to predict where you'll be to catch the knife, and here's some thoughts I had, other than catching the knife instantly puts it back into your mag:- Catching the knife in midair and throwing it for the bounce effect provides instant stamina bar regen based on the amount of bounces and the targets it bounces off (heroes give more stamina than creeps and minions), McGinnis turrets count as heroes- Increased attack-speed if you catch it on the ground?- Air-Dash count resets for mid-air catches, allowing you to reposition and dodge as required, keeping your momentum up while rewarding you for the catch rather than punishing you
>still no grey talon or mirage reworkzzzz
slowing hex should be a T3 item while we're at it
fortitude should be a tier 4 item and give 1k hp and 4 movespeed and +50% damage when at threshold
>>507101426Could just make a new tier 4 item that is upgraded from fortitude ya know...
>>507101426no
>>507100990Talon could do with some more lore-friendly synergy I think.Talon hunted monsters, and his kit shows a wisdom and patience to that effect, but the abilities themselves don't reward a slower, more methodical gameplay style.Charged shot should do more damage if held for even longer after the point where the circles collide presently, but less base damage and scaling. Alternatively make the damage scale over the distance traveled before hitting the target.Remove his hover completely. Change it to a tracking mode where he gets bonus move-speed and attack-speed, and can see footprints of recent enemy hero movement, highlighted enemy bullet-holes etc. Sort of a means of countering the "there are literally no enemies on the minimap right now where the hell is everyone" kind of momentsHis trap should synergize with his kit a bit better. Have it highlight the units caught in it for X seconds after the effect is triggered, or provide bonus effects to his other abilities like hitting a charged shot on a unit affected by it causes a snare or stun effect, the proposed track lets you move towards the unit faster etcThe owl is alright for what it is, but maybe give it a scout ability or something too, have it auto-ping enemies at it's final tier or something, making it easier for you and your team to chase
>>507100990Current Mirage is the reworked Mirage even if he sucks
>>507102465sounds cool>>507102540kek. I understand they're hesitation given the power of his ult, but the scarabs and the on-hit passive have almost zero synergy and have zero feedback (although I do like activating it for kills). hell, they could nerf tornado and do something different with it, maybe make the scarabs be a sort of cone that apply scarabs that slow for a bit, allow him to steer the tornado (and lose the knockup), etc.
>>507100039I don't get why dc games just don't count when it's an alpha
>>507100039this is quite funny truthfully
>>507100039I think most people aren't aware so the moment I see someone RQ I tell everyone the game will still count and we'll lose mmr if they leave.
>>507102775I meant this as "they shouldn't count" oops
https://youtu.be/njfP78GoRj4i miss him...
>Teammates brooling all game>Still have more player damage than themFucking how?
>>507104210Ivy moment
>>507103125>the game will still count and we'll lose mmr if they leave.I will continue to leave when someone else abandons, because caring about MMR in a playtest is giga retarded and one sided stomps aren't funFaster and better for everyone to just leave and requeue
Did they nerf Magician yet? I'm not going to play hero labs when Magician still can kill you in 0.5 seconds doing rabbit->bolt
>>507104571I like having a high rank, but you be you lil rank bro
I hate this game so much
>>507106126Sorry, but playing PvE for ten minutes after a ragequit is extremely cucked.
>>507107240If you say so, iqlet bro, I won't argue with you.
>still positive 9/16 despite feeling like I lost a bunch more than I wonAlso I'm taking wraith out of my rotation seeing as I'm being forced to play at ranks 6 - 12 times higher than my actual rank because I am getting STOMPED
With that in mindBETSROUND 1The enemy Yamato has the skin
>>507108413>16(+) matches in two daysDamn, obsessed
>>507108778>yamato swapped to yellow and slapped me
ok now I have to ask what is the actual condition for ivy because it's not hitting multiple people with the ult
Grind all day to rank upRank down
Is this accurate were the average/majority of players are emissary?
>Take every enemy Walker>We still have Guardians up>Team throws to do skin shitlol
>>507111124It seems a little inaccurate to me honestly, it's hard for me to believe that there's so many archons but I could be wrong.
>fell down to oracle for the first timeBros...
>>507108778>Yamato pushed me out of lane sub 5 minutes>Proceeded to stomp the rest of the fucking match>I was the only metal skin on the teamThat Yamato has 189 games of Yamato out of 198 games tracked
BetsROUND 2FIGHT
>>507111124>>507111859The sample size is low and a lot of people are clustered in middle ranks that should probably be higher or lower, playercount is WAY too low for this shit to be accurate
Run you down heroes like Shiv and Yamato are relentlessly unfun to play against
>>507114074I also hate run up on a nigga heroes
current progress
knaf aut
>27 minutes in Mo n Krill says "Maybe we should all get metal skin>I've had it for 10 fucking minutes with return fireThis game was cooked from the beginning lmao
>>507114178Devil May Cry?
>>507116248I forgot metal skin even existed, you don't need it ever really
Bets round 3>>507116486Part of the problem
>>507116434chad?
>>507116248>Metal skin and return fire at 12 minYea that's overkill. You kinda fucked your own power spike
It'd be cool if you could see the averageorange/green/purple bar length for each hero at each rank.Like between initiate to eternus im sure the purple bar just goes from being the longest to being the shortest for most heroes. If only I could confirm my suspicions
>>507117267You could just look at one of mikaels videos and see that the average eternus game typically has a pretty healthy mix of orange and purple items.
>>507119808Why would I want to give some faggot views
>Everyone does objective damage>WinWOOOOOW
>>507116862I feel like gun Ivy needs some more spirit, like, reach + duration as well, to both help with fire rate and farmingI also need to learn to brool more, because holy fuck my player damage is abysmal every game
>>507120679it do be like that
>>507117267unintentionally hilarious post
>>507121159Thanks.
>>507120910Hope you're having a good time up there, OCEbro. I just got blown the fuck out with a 75kvs150k soul game in Arcanist that I could barely do shit about because every other player lost lane super hard and our haze went 0-19
>>507121159Yea, the guy seems so convinced that gun is OP in his head that he makes up baseless theory and scenario in his head that support his opinion. It's kinda funny. Hybrid has been dominating for a long time after the spirit-centric meta got nerfed a bit.For now, the the pure gun or spirit items are more niche and only a buy on handful of characters. Hybrid and utility items are the strongest items for both orange and purple.
>>507117267Intentionally hilarious post
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>>507123915retard alert
>>507124648>>507124648>>507124648
can a non jewish shill make the thread
>>507124645How am I wrong???Beyond tier 1, all of the popular and meta orange are hybrids or utility. All of the popular and meta purple are actives or utility like CD, reach, duration.
>>507124771You're not wrong, but you're retarded for misinterpreting.
So what are the general guidelines/rules/limits of patron's wishes based what we know from geist's storyline and the voice lines we have from the files? So far the safe bets seem to be :1 - Big wishes require sacrifices (like oathkeeper needing a sacrifice to give geist a "better exchange rate")2 - Seemingly no wishing people back from the dead outright (otherwise holiday would have a voiceline about her sister being back rather than just revenge ones)3 - Doesn't seem to monkey's paw people who help it, but is not 'keen to provide additional steps' or whatever geist said, so if you have a wish you get one shot at tit.anything else?
>massively behind after being bullied in lane>literally just go farm and roam>top frag/souls in my team after like 10 minutes of this>nobody else ever farmswhy is emissary like this
BASED janny saving deadlock
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