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>>506918420Too early for Christmas
Harpy Wife, Happy Life!
>>506918571Speaking of, I'm going to need anons to post their favorite girls, I wanna make a collage for Christmas
Who would win in a fight between Charizard and Granberia?
Finally got the Mithra Castle weapons and really close to finishing the Judgement route. Is there a way to unlock the Tower of Darkness?
Risen Demons are the best
>>506920139No, it's just supposed to be a 'remember this thing' later on.
>>506921254 Thank goodness I thought I screwed up at the last moment like how I forgot to unequip Longinus from AW Eden so now it’s gone forever
Baphomet should be High Baphomet and vice versa.
>>506918454>that image in my headNow I'm imagining that she's wigling her butt to fly.
>>506920023Fake dragons, no one cares.
Of course Gabriela is the traitor, can’t trust any plants besides Priestess and Watermelon Girl. Coexistence would be better if we got rid of the vore monsters and dryfishers
>>506919190Well we already know some of the girls that'll be in there at least
>>506923309Can you post some anon
>>506922957Fuck you.
>>506923378Shut up Demonoid Tentacle Empress Lazarus.
>>506923987I said that because directly above your post was (presumably) the Harpyanon, and I thought the order made it funny
>>506924574mine is not even a yoma because fuck farming those items
>>506924060No U.
I find it funny that for Kanon and Gabriela none of their plant followers like them anymore. Gabriela for being a traitor and for Kanon now being know for "parties"
You know, I'm surprised that I haven't got a new race change, being at the end of Ilias route and all.>>506925796Fuck Alma in a non sexual way. Fuck that bitch.
You deserve rape.
>>506926092>human>NOOOOO I DON'T AAAAAAAAAAAA>monster>YOU BET I DO! *jumps you*
>>506926092Doppel Luka deserves a happy life.
>>506925923She isn't saying that she disapproved of what she did or that she's sorry, she's saying that the only reason she doesn't want to hang with her is because it will stain her reputation
Why is there STILL no iconic masochist monster girl?Give me a level 9999 goblin girl who could destroy an entire country with a basic attack but her number 1 fetish is being used like an onahole, so she uses her pheromones to force human men to rape her while holding back her power so she doesn't accidentally kill them when she fake struggles to make it look like she doesn't want to be raped.Basically the inverse of NG+ fully maxed out Luka using Give Up against a level 1 Slime.
>>506927027iirc there actually is one of the three MW!Kanon Plants who is more regretful/didn't want to participate to begin with and has no problem with the 'don't eat people' ruleThe other two are more miffed about it though, and one of them outright says they've mainly stopped because they will be executed if they try
>>506927369trtr has zero flexibility and only recognizes one flavour of femdom
>>506926978>Doppel Luka deserves a happy life.As my loving wife
>>506926978The fact that they got a massive buff in the newer versions cement this.>>506928206FemLuka Harem is a go!
>>506923378Lazarus has had enough of this shit.
>>506927479I'm guessing one of those pissy plants are the Marlboro girls? How those things haven't been forced out into the wild is kind of crazy.
>>506928964>How those things haven't been forced out into the wild is kind of crazy.Coexistence
>love chrome>accept smelly
>>506928964The malboro girls weren't even in kanons parties were they? I thought they were too stinky to be let in and you only saw them at the monster lords castle way later.
>>506919190Reina is my #1 of course!But if you're able I think it'd be nice to have Lucretia and the Sisters with her too.>>506922589in-game due to how she moves up-and-down it actually looks a bit like that lol
>>506930147>Chrome Anon>Anon Luka>Chaos Lucifina
thread theme: demiurugosu1.oggeveryone here is happy
>>506920023Granberia.
So this is where you all were hiding...I bet I missed out on so much dialogue4 calamities dead and 0 damn hints
>>506930408Please post their Full images please, Pngs if possible
>>506930147>harpy game>lucifina badTRVKE
>>506930147>chaos reinashe shall ascend>harpy game>sky food tell birds'sky food', you say? what a brilliant idea!>>506931175sure!I have Reina's best right here, but I'll try to find good ones for the other three as well.Or just copy them from the files.
>>506931950Here's Lucretia
>>506919069>>506930408>>506931950I really wish we could replace retarded angeltrash with superior harpy wives
>>506931418HERESY
>>506933306https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
>>506933230AW Lucifina is a bad person, MW Lucifina is a dead person. Prime Lucifina is both dead, and a bad person for abandoning her child because of her pride demanded she not turn back into a angel so she wouldn't die.
>>506933604https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
>>506933719Sounds like someone is asking for some feather plucking.
>>506933192Here's Pina, the Elder SisterFun Fact, if you talk to them, Pina explains that the reason she's taking care of her sister right now is because their Mom and Dad (presumably now that Pina is old enough) have gone on a trip around the world together. The last place they visited was Sabasa (they recent got a postcard from them there), and they likely took a room at a hotel while they went sight-seeing around the desert region.I always that it was really sweet, and I hoped that we'd eventually get to meet them there one day.Then Part 3 happened.I don't know what happened to their parents, but I do know Doom music has begun playing every time I run into Hiruko since we met them in the Monster World, and every time I encounter them again it only keeps getting louder.
>>506935073And finally here's the Younger Sister, Pii!Apparently, she really loves Pizza
>>506935307>>506935073>>506933192>>506931950Thank you anon, And for the other anons that care the images don't only have to come from MGQ
>>506935073>The last place they visited was Sabasa>Then Part 3 happened>The game makes it a point that events which happened in one or both worlds or in the past begin playing out again in the unified world, often in the same/similar way>There is a non-0% chance that either the harpy and/or one of the men in the MW castle was their mother and father in that world or that Hiruko killed and ate their actual parents after getting thrown into their worldchrist, no wonder you hate her so fucking much
>>506931950you must racemax her now anon, the bubble has spoken
>rape a human male..!>he's into it...>lose the will to rape...
>>506938591Why are monsters like this?
>>506939578Why can't humans respect our rape fetish and play along?
>>506940065Humanbros we have no response...it's over...
>>506940065Why can't monsters respect our reverse rape fetish and play along?
>>506943043>the cute cumpump thinks he can make demands
Well after a fun night it's time to set out once again. Grand Noah really needs a ruler who can actually rule (Uriela agreed with that to be fair to her) so they're going to try and find the Queen now, as soon as we find out where they went.And by that I mean 'the game tells us we can go to the magical library now rather than us walking in there to find nothing'. I have the feeling we've ended up looting half the dungeons we'll be required to come back to eventually.I swear whatever they mix that honey with really works like magic
Rami finally learned how to fly guys!
>>506944894Forgot to spoiler that, my badThe game was actually pretty nice about it though so thankfully it took no time at all.>>506944987I'm so happy for her! Finally all that training paid off.>>506935827You're welcome, thanks anon!I hope you get more girls to put in it.
>>506945320Did you already defeat the giant meatball in the sky?
So just finished the game and I feel like I missed some stuff so I gotta ask:Was there something I was supposed to do to fix finoa and goddard being chaos/luka fanatics? And what ever happened to meia?
Can I just paste my part 2 save into part 3 and continue playing?
>>506946401yes, just copy the whole folder over
>>506946469I had the double damage bug going in part 2, I hope it gets solved by pasting my save folder into part 3.
>>506945649ah, no, I'm going to do that right after this though."apparently" they aren't actually going to attack anything or hurt anyone with it, they're just seething that we beat them and want to fight us three on four to recover their pride. Or, well, for Kanade it's 'prove your worth' purposes.Unfortunately for them Pii found Double Longinus and now has the power of a god of destruction.On another note boy that turned into nightmare fuel by the end of itThe identity of the author has finally been revealed, and in the context World Drown really is a good name for themI'll aim for them to be the next calamity we fight since they're the other one I feel really connected to
I like the scene where Minagi defends the six ancestors with her special holy-dark attack then exclaims how she's been developing her this move just to use on Saja while saja's thinking "wtf did I do to this bitch?"
>>506946991>Allow Pii to try out the second hat>She can now fly on her own without needing Pina to help her>Get ambushed by power apoptosis duo>They actually defeat them both cleanlyPlease, tell me, where can I find more Sky HatsI need more than two of these hats they are so good for everyone on the team but I can't find them anywhere
>>506944987very cute and satisfying ending, as someone who's had her on his party since day 1 i'm glad her suffering finally paid off>>506947479this actually carries to their castle dialogue where minagi is a bit hurt by saja feeling more distant as of late and saja wondering what the hell did she do to make minagi develop a turbonuke fistturns out saja just doesn't know how deep does her sister's gokubrain go, if only because she doesn't show any outward signs of her martial arts brainrot and is otherwise an usually well behaved person even by human standardsher castle dialogue with tamamo is really fun too
>saja: laughs at her>kanon: laughs her ass off at her>kanade: actually shows emotion for the first time in the game... by laughing at her>minagi: immediately goes "you are my little sister now. we will play with this ball. do not resist">hiruko: surprising no one, tries to eat herthe legendary ancestor's dignity...gone...
>>506948498Well that was quick and easy, alright time to carve up a meatball!
>>506949310I remember there was a series of sidestories for the VN that had her rambling senile nonsense or quoting abe simpson's senior moments and I've never been able to look at her after that without imaging her acting like a dementia patient
Try to take out the muscle angel the exact same way they killed the traitor angel, she dodges and now we gotta flee for our lives.Everyone takes the oppertunity to rob this bitch while laughing evilyLazarus should have just recruited Luka and Sonya into his criminal lifestyle these two hicks fucking love dishing out violence and stealing shit they even have evil laughs now! Even Alice just flat out said we're stealing all 3, are we sure IIias isn't the only kleptomaniac out there? I'm starting to wanna steal stuff too, you know that OP is looking pretty loose
>>506952176it's the way of the murderhoboyou either settle down with the small fortune you earned while adventuring or live long enough to see yourself steal everything shiny that isn't nailed down
>>506949323Finally found it (I overlooked the tiny dot on the map somehow)Alright Galda, dive in!
>>506955882please be nice, she has autism
>>506955882It's funny how self-aware Hiruko seems compared to Kanon, they openly acknowledge everyone hates them and that the three of them hate each other yet they keep teaming up anyway.They also have their own reasons for doing it too; Kanade is just wanting to test us and Hiruko wants to eat us and/or get closer to the truth of their origin. Kanon though I might feel a bit of pity for by now because apparently they do actually view the party as their friends and don't hate us they just really really want to be the ruler of Grangold that badly.I'm sure there's a german word for the feeling of "having complete contempt for someone who likes you or thinks they are your friend but doesn't understand you hate them, and feeling a little bad about it despite still hating them">>506956293I would never dream of not being nice to our beloved big birbShe deserves many rubs and treats
>>506957046I wish Galda actually used this sprite in the party, but it's nice to get to see what it'd look like at least
Are there any balance changes going into part 3 that I should be aware of?
>>506957046oh no, i meant hirukoamusingly enough hiruko does find some of her sister's comments a bit hurtful so it's not like she's heartless either, and there's also an instinctive compònent to her behaviour, you'll see more as you progress
I wish human girls were real....
>>506959327Sorry, all we've got are stupid shikibi.
>>506966271I shall equip the fox slayer ability, they are as bad as succubi when it comes to sex. feeding on men's(and some women's) life force.
>>506959452can i have uuuuuuh smart shikibus then
>>506966878Last one doesn't feed on life force. She'll just annoy you to death with MIKONS
>>506966271Knowing some of these, they're going to start killing each other. I will step out of the way and let them continue until one is left standing.
>>506966923you have your omnicidal daughter whom is god teach her how to be good and she wont existence drain you(and everyone else in existence) in the next update. Chaos is smart just has a lotta mental issues from her dad wanting to kill her so make her happy.
You know, if the whole monk priestess thing doesn't work out Sonya would be an excellent bouncer not even the threat of black alice was enough to make these two tards listen interesting how a club to the back of the head seems to be a more compelling argument.
How do I get in here? There are prostitutes I need to deal with inside.
>>506970704Blessed
>>506970704cute
>>506970704WHAT DID YOU DO TO HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL
>>506970704yet another one joins the fold>>506970771unironically you can't
Dude could not have picked a worst time for his trademark move!
She was always thinking of him even through this. Luka you womanizer
man, this is cool I knew she was strong
>>506966271Strip naked.
>>506970771The prostitutes moved to a different building. I think one of them was in the inn
>>506977270It's actually kind of funny seeing this from Lukas perception and winning. Uriela faced this same thing, but she couldnt handle it at all. Luka is so far above the Ancestors and Archangels at this point it's not even funny.
If there's a monster girl (You) love and you gave her a bottle of semen, you don't really love her
HUGE spoiler
>>506966271Honestly, at least 2 of those are safe, even if shameless money-grubbers.
>>506977906>Luka stops time with time haste>jacks off spreading semen all over the ancestors>gives himself 20x buffs>time resumes>the ancestors all start licking up the cum at once and while they're busy Luka Angel Dusts them
>>506979350As far as I know, recovering from orgasm takes a little while in MGQ.
>>506978657no the other ones drained my balls i need more men theres over 1 thousand of them help me.
>>506979691Luka has speed recovery it's why he can cum so much in a session.
>>506979884just IV a bunch of megalixir in
>>506980128>help im being raped in a foreverbox
This felt like a Bleach fight, she took all of those hits then one moment of bull shit she managed to take her opponent with her. but man, using your opponents holy energy to compensate for you not being able to wield it as a being of darkness is pure shonen bull shit also mini IIias sure is a champ for fighting even through she new she had no chance , I wonder if this is the last we'll see of her on this route
Is it just me or does Lucifina and Black Alice seem like they'll get along? They have a lot of lines talking about how "fun" something is
>>506980563>This felt like a Bleach fightMeanwhile Sub-Ilias and Fat Alice in the Destroyer route be likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZZcUdIdAt0
>>506974610IS THAT!
>>506981689
>>506981254Lucifina wants to have fun with her family maybe except her momBA wants want to have tea party with strangers maybe except her hunsbandoSo no
I love how every single time shit like this happens that face of hers is the perfect reaction would you?
>>506977906>Reina*Luka isn't here anon! but yes it is incredibly awesome, what a fight.We actually cleared the whole fight in one go without Reina going down, but we were definitely not meant to come here yet.I actually meant for her to turn into the [Dancing Harpy of Justice] but I think Reina still clearly remembers and is (very very understandably) completely livid about what she witnessed in the bait room. Her transforming into her superpowered form fueled by the rage of all who Hiruko had devoured is half why we won the fight, the other half being Reina crippling their team Turn 1 with Curse Dance by captivating Hiruko and poisoning Kanon, which made Kanon get taken down three turns before the other two and helped mitigate how much we had to deal with. Even then while Reina never triggered her endure she got close a couple of times.Due to the multi-targeting attacks being unreliable here Lucretia sat out after pulling off Wind Guard Kill.Ultimately, Reina ended up focusing her power with sophisticate and then raining hell while Galda threw out consistently similar damage numbers that hit the middle ground between Reina with and without the charge up. Pina and Pii actually hit hard here too, given they attack eight times in one turn.It was a really fun performance, but I hope Reina's feeling better now.
>>506982410Of course she is a regular human after all, pretty believable expression from a regular human, that's right a regular human like her.
>>506982410No sceneWould
>>506982596Luka also has regular human expressions it's pretty cool isnt it.
>>506982410I would not. I don't even like Fate's Francis Drake. Just not a pirate or drunk woman guy in general.
>>506982776this would be based if she didn't have a double standard
>>506982693Sexy as a man Sexy as a girl sabassa king cant stop winning.
>>506982937Her husband might be doing it out of love, and that is super inappropriate. It doesn't count if there is no love in the act.
>>506982937Meia is probably the least likable character in the franchise. A vorewhore is just a vorewhore, she's eating strangers, but a cheater is betraying those she's supposed to love.
>>506984103>Meia is probably the least likable character in the franchise.
>>506984208Gabriella didn't cuck anyone so she's not as bad.
>>506984326say that to metatron
>>506982446>Kanon and Kanade give total surrender>Get to Hiruko>Hiruko begins having a honest-to-god mental breakdown>She is so insatiably hungry that she's in constant agony and her only possible cope is 'actually I totally love doing it anyway' because she knows full well something is horribly wrong with her>She knows whatever makes her different is why she's forced to act this way and her real goal in moments of lucidity has just been to desperately find out the truth>Ilias ends up revealing to her that Alice I only created her to be a replacement for her original child (the Void Dragon) that died and she did so while insane>Hiruko just fucking loses it entirely and summons the actual D.I. to try and finally get answersMan, I think I might actually be starting to genuinely feel bad for her in a way other than pity.She's like a rabid pitbull that knows there's a problem with it but doesn't understand why, even if they probably need to be put down for everyone else's safety death may well be a mercy to her.
>>506984208She can be fixed, because she is an aspect of Ilias, and deep down inside, Ilias is a good girl.Meia can't ever erase her cheating ways.
>>506984427Poor A Leech...
>>506984553She will never be fixed. Her "arc" is over.
>>506984427>Finally meets her real 'Mother'>"Oh, hey, you and I are kinda the same that's neat.">The Invader immediately starts trying to eat Demiurge (and Hiruko) while thanking them for it>Hiruko is actually ready to let the thing kill her before Kanade throws her through a portal so she doesn't get herself killed>Ilias points out that Hiruko probably (rightfully) believes now that she's just a failed creation made on a whim to replace someone else before being abandoned by her god when they shut off from the worldIf I hadn't seen the results of her madness throes I'd be a lot more sympathetic, yet even so Hiruko knowing they can't control themselves but being unable to do anything about it besides desperately hoping that their origin will give them something is kind of tragic. They really are kind of like a pitbull aren't they.>>506984868yeah that doesn't excuse it or bring all the people your mutt killed back to life lady
Everyone just used to Sonya having schizo moments like this Alice actively provokes one just to see if she'll answer the question. Stop. This is abuse.
What kind of world would produce a person like this?
>>506984427>>506986112Hiruko is actually my most favorite ancestor due to this.But yeah, I still don't agree with her "dindu nuffin" shit.
>>506930959What?
>>506986641Anon never talk to any villagers and never get the hints of Eden
So what exactly do you call a person whose alternative personalities are this? I really am curious what kind of woman plapped this
>>506984427Thanks anon who made the accurate Koron biography.
>>506984427The shitty part is that even knowing this and having the power to fix it, Luka doesn't do anything to actually FIX her in the ending. He lets her continue being a problem for everyone.
>>506987992Hey come on now, Fat Alice said she'd maybe keep an eye on her for the banquet at least.
>>506987653Can you imagine Hiruko having to live up to this? Fatlice really raised the bar too high for the hungry tentacle monster to reach.
>>506988071>But after that you're all on your own. You too Hiruko, your suffering will be unending.
>>506986337honestly I could totally get that; Hiruko is horrific but also undeniably pitiable as a thing that should have never been born in the first place.The fact they seem more aware of that than Alice is fucking absurd, 'she's a good girl don't blame her' is total bullshit and even HIRUKO knows everyone has a good reason to hate and fear her.I already didn't like Alice I, didn't need to make me hate her even more game.I am impressed I could feel a bit of pity for Kanon and Hiruko though.In any case, Reina has cleared out the Troublemaking Trio from the flying meatball, and while we're quite happy with how the fight went I'm not sure where the team should go.How bad would it go if I tried to fight World Drown now? Or would it be more wise to do the temples.
>>506987992She could be saved in the 4th route since Luka wants to help the hungry, hungry dimension slug that is Hiruko's DNA donor. Fixing the source could fix the whole.
>>506988686World Drown is weaker than most of the calamities imo, just don't use Song skill or else she'll counter you.Not sure about Dance skill though
>>506988686>>506989331iirc she will automatically null/counter all dancing/singing and time magic used in the fight even if it's only buffing (with a different counter attack for each) and she will counter hard. And for the record the null/counter will activate on any dancing or singing skill.And I mean ANY, anon.Including Chirp's end of turn free sparrow dance, which will turn into a 25% chance for your entire team to eat shit.I know you've gotten yourself and Reina compared to World Drown (not inaccurate given how you've been playing), and rather appropriately World Drown basically hard-fucking-counters Reina if not literally your entire team outright.so uh yeah have fun with thatand get ready to be King Crimson'd a lot
>>506989331I'll give it a try then, thanks anon>>506990398ok surely the game isn't that cruel, I mean I get singing given they're a mermaid and maybe time magic too due to what they did but dancing? surely they wouldn't do that.I could envision Dark Phoenix doing that given they're a evil harpy but I don't get why a mermaid would.
when can you recruit mermaid queen and El in third route?
>>506992354Yes
>>506988686kanon doesnt dissect luka's brain for the demiurge and is a bit appalled by the idea, she is a professional gore artist not a idiot who massacres friends. she has standards.
THIS TOOK ME A FULL GODDAMN HOUR What the fuck? I thought the third way was when that bullshit would happen! To think I'm this underleveled
>don't murder that man! Surrender that man to the authority so he can be punished accordingly to his sins>the punishment
>>506993683>man who is permissive in child sex slavery gets a suitably ironic punishment and kills himself>Eva does the exact same thing, to the point where it's a business>Gets beat up and that's it
>>506993859Monster girl privilege
>>506993683is that eva?
>>506993683>killed himself because of a dream he hadhis fault
>>506993683Do you know what "rule of law" is?
>>506994336actually, thinking of it, that might not be the right phrasebut it's in that ballpark
>>506993859>reality: Eva has to deal with lucifina who is more chill with children.
>>506994583I hate that spoilers cut off greentext.Hiroshimoot pls.
>>506994303K W A B
>>506993683Did he see it happen again and again in the dreams, or just have dreams where he believed it to be happening?
I love my wife Saja.Im ready for the final part of the game maybe in 2-3 years.
I'm happy to reunite with these guys at last, I always really liked them, especially Kraken and Poseidoness. I know I used them at one point too.Hopefully the operation will go smoothly.
>>506995365BASED
>>506995030fake daughter, played by a succubus
Man, Raphaela is really smart and a real good at arguing facts and logic. the fact that it took DEM Black Alice to keep her winning over the others like that annoys me
>>506995909the double standards are reaching unprecedented levels.
>>506976596
>>506996034Raphaela isn't all that smart everyone else is just retarded.
>>506996693if you yourself arent smart to make your character smart make everyone else retarded
>>506987653>secret seventh ancestor0/10. Step your chuuni-game up. Say she's the 0th of the six ancestors
>>506995445The operation will succeed with the power and bravery of the loyal reliably Seahorse Marines of the Navy!
>>506988686>>506990820Head back into the Demiurge and take the leech with you.
>>506998379.....you mean Hiru the (normal) Leech Girl?Did they actually put something in for her?
>>506999952they may be referring to hiruko whom the mtl translated to leech a lotta the time. but not too sure.
>>506987653updating it a second time
>>507000937I actually like Hiru and was planning to use her as one of the characters for whenever I did another playthrough from the start.I would be incredibly surprised if she, of all people, actually got anything though. Don’t get my hopes up now.
>>507001137The true edge.
>>507001913There's still no evidence Saja is the ancestor of modern dragon girls, that's just from some anon who couldn't accept Koron having kids.
>>507001913Meh the edit looks bad and tries too hard to Uhm Ackshually rather than just being funny
>>507002201listen bud children are weak koron doesnt like weak.
>>507002201anon who said that could be the caseI was not the anon who brought that upI don't have a problem with itthere's just no info
>>507002274comedy is subjective. and i said i was making it more accurate so of course it is more um akcshually.
>>507002348i mean koron is titled the zeroth ancestor.. zero is nothing.
>>507002670Anon, that just means she's the oldest, and before the traditional, modern count.
>>507001913>"Grow up nice and strong, 'else I'll kill you myself!"nothing personnel, sisters
Can't say I blame her.
>>507003048ok but consider ancestor of no-one is edgier and fits them being edgy
>>507002483
>>507006139game?
>>507006139Ok, you're right. Please don't do it to me. I don't want that.
>>507006228Seems to be Succubus Academia from my searching. SQDT is the circle for it on DLSite.
>>507006768ah, that one was too snuffy for me
>>507006139>it's no fun when you want itWhy are monsters like this?
>>507007064>can't play pretendWhy are humans like this?
If I ignore everything besides the face, Chimera Bug is kinda cute.
>>507007614same applies to every delphinus
>>507007614There's a broken part of my brain that kinda likes horrible insect monsters, so the only thing that really bothers me about her is that she has two pussies and is actively laying an unfortunately phallic-looking egg in her art.
>>506987653you are welcome.
>>507007231I can, but why?
koron views luka as a meal so what the fuck did she feed on during her time cuz im pretty sure humans werent around yet was it the alfs?
>>507009323Anon she's been to thousands of parallel worlds. Humans had to have been around in at least one of them.
I got spoilered so apparently you need to split into 3 teams at one point, is it 3x16 party members or 3x4 party members?
>>507007838He just needs to power up to his ultimate form!
>unlocked time stop dancenow I wish there's higher difficulty than paradox
This is literally the lore at the postgame.
>>507011671Is she holding it on a leash, or is she holding a knife close to pop it like a balloon while Luka holds her back from doing that?
>>5070106963x6
>>507011793both she's crazy enough to do omnicidal rape is luka makes her affection too high(her reaction to requesting it early is it'll kill him so she wont do it, she gets so thirsty she decides to rape everything HOLY SHIT). But also loves reality enough to not be like it all the time.. prolly why she doesnt like hanging out with raphaela.. do not make chaos too horny it is not good for reality everything gets fucked in multiple ways.
12? aren't you missing 2, Luka?
why does the get all h-scenes button not give me the public alma sex scenes?
>>507013313we do not talk about those
>>507013598please tell me there's no another tier above forbidden. Why the highest tier swordman job gives shit attack skills
>>507013830no but some forbidden stuff requires other forbidden stuff to get.
But can Goku beat Chaos?
>>507001913I want Koron to rape my penis...
>>507014831hope you like male:urethral_insertion anon
UhhhhAre you supposed to be able to recruit Belial and the Witch Calamity??? I just got them in the final tartarus...
I did it. Finally beat Judgement route. That other choice of not killing Ilias probably would’ve been a bad end I assume? Either way now I can start the Destroyer route though I’ll miss Eden. She saved me way too many times when I should’ve been wiped out
>>507015118Yes?
>>507015780I heard someone say you can't recruit calamities so I was wondering if I bugged the game out
>>507015769That other choice of not killing Ilias probably would’ve been a bad end I assume?No, but Illias will mind control you to kill her.Also the ending is epicAnon is your screenshot button working?
>>507015806They are not calamities
>>507016002:OOOOOO
>can't use extuple zeta no matter what even though I have all the spirits summonedfuck you holy shit
>>507014831she dominates using only physical strength andcalls you weak, no magic just pure dominance.
>>507016119SUMMON THE OTHER 2 you got from your dad dipshit
>>507015902 I don’t feel like switching back and forth between desktop mode and game mode on my Steam Deck so I just took a pic and called it a day. Now that I’m going through and chatting with everyone I’m curious if Lucifina is really the Savior of the Fallen Angels that MW Eden was talking about?
>>507016305I DID you nigger
>>507016371It's notNobody ever guess it's Lucifina in the game so I'm not even sure where do you get this conclusion.
>>507016371I still feel the entire point of that prophecy was a misunderstanding due to Eden's humility and insecurity. The real fallen angel savior of Makai was Eden herself all along. She gathered them and got them to survive.
>>507016617 MW Eden mentions it as a possibility when visiting her house at the end. >>507017016 I agree completely, I can’t imagine the hardship she had to endure to get to that point. Seriously can’t believe I’m an Edenfag now when I used to dislike her back in the VN days
>>507017885Only her final form is not liked. Eden is a nice angel. I liked her scene when I lost to her in the shrine>>507011624I hope they add one thats compatible with LoC equipment. Im already hitting sextillion damage with those chaos attacks
>>506930147>hot elI never really cared much for her or most mermaids though...
>start new cycle, now siding with Alice>Raphaela descends, powerful archangel aura etc>Gets beaten by Nuruko mugging her before my turn even startsLiterally laughed my ass off, I wish I can commission someone to draw this
>>507019163That was a nice scene, I can agree with that
fluffy. fluffy.. must submit to fluffy..
>>506930147>harpy gamelooks like bird anon won
>Wiki finally has the recolor list updatedThank Illias
>>507021615There have been very few wordclouds where he lost in the first place
Man, I wished I grabbed Papi sooner, her responses have been pretty funny.
>>507023457I restarted the whole Chaos Route for exactly, specifically, this reason
>Judgement actually welcomes Alice into paradise in the chaos routeSo much better than the mecha man
>>507024539His name is Judgment, not Assumption.
>>507024539what does worldbreaker say to ilias and ilias said she'd guarantee her a spot after the fight lol.
uhhh, slot machine disappearedwhat do
>>507024539I assume she doesn't accept it like Saja, because it's kind of hard to believe she doesn't get mentioned at all in the AW end.
Not a fan of final form clownsuit luka
>>507027838dude looks more like the guy from disturbed over a clownsuit Luka's always been a bit of a dork and edgy so him looking overthetop after beco,ming god was a given.
>>507023457I don't know why, but I thought that maybe I'd need Papi in the party to recruit some of the Randolphs, so I go to see most of her retorts. Also, since she was in my party since the beginning, she ended up mastering like 7 forbidden jobs, so worth it.
Sonya commission finished up. Artist decided to do both the buttjob and paizuri, very nice.https://catbox.moe/c/o5awpx
>>507028809Sonya WILL die a virgin (canonical)
>>507027838Which hero would you say had the best fit?
>>507029132Heinrich
>>507029132Hein > Idea >= Marcellus >>> Nero >> FoC
>>507029132Heinrich and it's not even close though I wish he'd drop the weird gauntlets/kneeguards if he was not going to have any other armorWith that said, TRUE best hero fit coming through
>>507029132Luka the edginess is so overtop i love it.Then nerothen heinrichThen cybercellus then idea
>best girl's filename identifies her as a mob>she's considered just another battlefuckerFUCK you
>>507029582she did gay shit with her mom/relative/queen if thats smtn.
>>507029132Imagine dating one of Luka's many daughters and seeing these dudes at the family meeting.
>>507029861Complement them on their capes, works every time.
>>507028598>she ended up mastering like 7 forbidden jobs, so worth it.She only needs to be re-recruited, not even in party.
>>507029132Ideas wins easily I feel. Heinie's got too much mess around him, and the other 3 are 3chuu5me.
>>507029582I want to hug this creature.
>>507030058>Heinie's got too much mess around himIdea's got the same shit except his fcking sword looks retarded and he's wearing like three different sets of armor at once
kek when Chaos appears in the Remina lab in BAlice's place at the end-of-game cutscene, she announces "You thought it would be Black Alice? It is I!" but nobody responds, so after a pause she says it againThe chuuni blood is strong
>>507030225Why did they ignore her? That's so rude. I wanna hug and console her.
>>507029132While it's not aesthetically pleasing, I would think we would see more people looking like Marcellus in Paradox.We have a medieval society that hasn't hit a fully industrial period yet, finding scraps of super advance technology that is still functioning. Considering the great war between the kingdoms, I would think they would have started issuing that tech to their knights, and it would just to be haphazardly slapped on them, making them look like techno knights.
>Luka prods his daughter to say hi to everyone in postgame>"...I am the Beginning and the End, the Alpha and -- ">No, not like that.God she's such a DORK
lol, lmao even
>>507029926Nero doesnt have a cape but complimenting his clothes may make him(internally) cry tears of joy.
>>507030587Shes the daughter of the guy that goes "My mother is the star of morning, the child of dawn the star that goes towards earth shall obtain victory." so yeah dorkiness runs in the family.
>>507029132heinrich no cap
>>507031226When will I be able to make Luka say that? I swear I remember him saying it in the Nanabi fight in the VN, side note, how do you feel about this mentality? why lean into extremism whenyou can take the bits you like from both sides and make your own thing? Honestly, I usedtothink likethatas a kid nowadays it feels like the only choice is extremism as extremists are the ones quickly rising to power, the ones who control us all, the ones who think the way Neris is saying here are quickly swept aside because their doctrine doesn't seem to satisfy the populace or rather their ideals do not resonate as well with the populace like extremism does. What do you think /mggg/?
so many black alice's in chat due to the amount of drooling over heinrich i see.. are we under another alice invasion?
>>507031647Use daystar nerd nero has a line where he says ancestor instead of mother and lucifina says I AM the chuuni blood is strong with this one.
>>507031740Rather than Heinrich looking good, it's more that the others look like liquid ass
>>507031854Luka gets the line from his mom so yeahIt's not really that bad when she says it though desu since she's just announcing who she is, and there's nothing particularly weird about doing that, it was pretty normal historically anyhow.
>>507031858Marcellus looks cool in the "This is me running my gear for max stats" kinda way.
>>507031976That never looks cool, sorryIf you optimize your gear for stats in an MMO and don't bother skinning/transmogging/glamouring/whatever you are the clown
>>507031937your only saying that because everyone is scared of lucifina.. whatever she does is normal of course yes normal lucifina hahahahahahaha helpme.... >this anon has left the chat and potentially existence only a flash of light is seen.
>>507032041depends cuz fashion like comedy is subjective. same with cool/edginess desu.
>>507032085No, it was quite literally normal. The stoic non-nonsense badass who doesn't talk in battle or only drops snarky one-liners is extremely modern. The entire point of coats of arms was to make sure both allies and enemies knew exactly who they were up against, and announcing your presence in various ways with boasts, songs, and whatnot was almost an art form.
Let your harpy wife dance to this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtt78SW-mgg
>>507031976He does have that techno barbarian look. Replacing old, and beaten up gear with more advance shit he finds lying around, and just haphazardly slapping it on because he has no time to make it look pretty.
I'm confused about Black Tanuki. Does she have normal human arms and legs, or animal ones? Is she using some transformation jutsu or something?
>>507032242yeah and the game is during medieval times, qna confirms it's a chant, chanting increases the magical potential which is why silence gimps your ass.but also... i dont think lucifina doesnt talk much in a fight anon, there is only blood, shed THE WOMAN IN THE MIRROR NODS HER HEAD THE ONLY ONE LEFT, WILL BE FIGHTING OH SHIT THE DRAGON'S BACK.
>>507032396I see the faint hint of human hands and the way the shoes are on indicates human feet.
>>507032396They're human arms and legs, you can see her arms. You might be being confused by the rope+bell since it looks like it comes from the sleeve but those are just decorations.
>>507032504>>507032506Yeah but during her scenes she has animal arms and legs doesn't she?
>>507032396Human arms and legs with a big fat tail behind her.
>>507032594idk I never looked at her scenes lmao
>>507030587>her grandma came up with the chuuni daystar counter poem>her dad is a dork in 70% of his dialogue>her brother wears an outfit so chuuni it wouldn't look out of place in blazblue, and he does it just because the thinks it's coolit runs on the family>>507031647i think that you're probably too young to post here>>507031858but i really like marcellus' cyborg look...>>507032396looks like she might have an all human body besides the ears and tail
>>507032396she has 2 large ba(e)lls
>>507031647>>>/pol/>>>/leftypol/>>>/out/
>>507032713you'd miss out on the daystar dialogue if you are running skip battle dialogue and holding a(or ctrl in the vn) which is understandable cuz the turns get long once you get daystar, you can learn stuff from the dialogue though, like kazuya being a bit scared of using dark magic even if it feels different cuz of "that", and lazarus being somewhat into being a magical girl.
>>507032869Not himWhy do you talk like a fagAre you using a chatbot or something
>>507032939no its cuz im a fag.Pull down your pants.
>>507032939not him either but stop trying to stir stuff upi swear to god thread quality always go down the drain around this hour and thy punishment for it is the seven phase boss fight skip treatment COME HERE
>>507033141I'm not trying to stir shit up it's a genuine questionSame reason I'm questioning why he's randomly bringing up irl politics
>>507033141isnt there the better variant with her actual hand?
>>507033141>i swear to god thread quality always go down the drain around this hour>ESL thread roleplayer complaining about thread quality
>>507033224Not them, but yes.
>>507033197Alma due to being a queen is a politician anon, the game itself has politics.
>>507033340OK so you're just a retard>nowadays it feels like the only choice is extremism as extremists are the ones quickly rising to power, the ones who control us all, the ones who think the way Neris is saying here are quickly swept aside because their doctrine doesn't seem to satisfy the populace or rather their ideals do not resonate as well with the populace like extremism doesActually now that I look back on it all of your responses are complete non-sequiteurs so you're actually an unironic chatbot, good to know
>>507033445Are you just assuming every post you dislike is 1 guy anon? lmaoThats fucking hillarious.
>>507033579If you're not the bot but you're defending "GUISE WHY ARE EXTREMISTS RULING OVER US IN REAL LIFE!?!?" then you're even worse than he is, since that one has the excuse of not actually being sentient and is just flooding the thread with generated garbage
So what actually is wrong with the plant tribes? Priestess has gone past suicidal and is close to becoming a school shooter. What makes them specifically so ungovernable?
The conflict of the game is inherently political as it's a clash of ideals, people shouldn't be afraid of dissuading
>>507033815For lack of a better way to put it, they're the niggers of monsters, or at least 90% of them are.
>>507033667Art imitates real life. We are all retarded autists anon. imagine losing your shit due to a guy spurging about the modern world sucking(it does) but frankly if we were to talk about politics i'd rather talk about how alma elma handles succubus paperwork.i dont consider myself worse than he is because i'm talking to someone worse right now.
>>507033928But what do they actually do that makes Priestess want to fucking kill herself because you don't see Alma Elma preparing a strong rope even though succubi seem almost as retarded sometimes
>>507033991the priestess genuinely likes/loves humans and she saw the guro garden it scarred her
>>507033946Time and place, niggerfaggot. Election tourists always think it's their job to make everything into political activism.>we're all retarded autistsThere's good autism and bad autism and if you don't agree check out /gsg/.
I like plants.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hAgKXwZh6As
>>507033815I imagine they're like weeds in a garden, no matter how many times you keep pulling them up they keep coming back and being a problem and if you leave it alone it becomes an even bigger problem.
>>507033991Priestess is the most actually responsible Queen X we see besides maybe Erubetie. Queen Harpy doesn't seem to do much in the way of government besides just deciding not to go to war and Harpy Village is too small to really cause that much stress anyway, meanwhile the Queen Alraune's seat of power is apparently the World Tree and plant monsters are *everywhere*. Most of the other queens seem to basically not actually do their job, except maybe Queen Elf but elves are basically not even real monsters.
>>507034078speaking of politics did you know Alice the 9th got overworked to death due to her older onee-san black alice dying and trying to restore the reputation of da bloodline/monsters.. politics/overwork killed her.
>>507033991Succs feel like they're maybe 50% nigger at most, overall they're a lot more capable of blending into and meshing with human society than most plants are.
Let's word it like this then, what's the duty of those with power?To use it as they wish be it bad or good?To use it to protect those weaker than them?They have no duty or obligations towards anyoneThis game, no, this world itself is built upon such questions which inevitability spark conflicts be it real life ones, fictional ones or even imagined ones.
>>507034392meanwhile lilith: rookie numbers
>>507034392Plants aren't particularly special for being murderous, though. A lot of monsters can kill you, some of them seem to prefer killing, even, like slimes.>Succs feel like they're maybe 50% nigger at mostPresumably the ones that kill often got wiped the fuck out rather than it somehow being in their genes that they're not faggots, there's that one succubus locked up that goes "bro I may have conked you over the head and stolen your wallet but I blew you so why am I in jail wtf"
>>507034458How old are youYou sound like you're actually and unironically underage, in which case not only do you not belong on this site you shouldn't be playing this game either
>>507034392>humans kill plants all the time, using them for food, construction etc and all is good>plant kills human because of hunger>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEDouble standards
>>507034630arent adults the only people allowed to vote and talk about politics?
>>507034392There seems to be a big disconnect with the Alraunes, who are described as being super peaceful, and the rest of the plant species. I think only dryads avoid the whole, melting their prey alive thing, that other plants get saddled with.It doesn't help that plants eat anything, even their fellow monsters like the spiders.
>>507034864>It doesn't help that plants eat anything, even their fellow monsters like the spiders.You say this but the very first spider we see in the OT, as well as the first actually carnivorous monster in the OT, is the OG spider girl trying to eat a kitsune.
>>507034864spiders eat kitsunes so its fair
>>507034461Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of unrepentant murderwhores out there in the MGQverse (succs especially), but plants specifically are shown time and again to be assholes on the whole. Hell, I remember there's some random Paradox NPC that says something to the effect of how plants might look nice and innocent but they're constantly fighting for nutrients and are more than willing to choke the life out of anything to get them. Might just be trtr giving some post-hoc rationalizations for the way plants act in MGQ as a whole but who knows.>>507034864Yeah, I haven't seen much of a reason yet to blame the Alraunes for anything. They're in the ~10% of plants for now.
>>507034716>voteYes>talk about itYou're underage I take it and think you're cool for doing it thenNo, fucking children can talk about politics, are you stupid?
>>507034920>>507034924I meant that plants eat anyone, just like how spiders eat anyone. They are probably the most hated species because of it.
>>507035015>they're constantly fighting for nutrients and are more than willing to choke the life out of anything to get themThis is quite literally every plant and animal in the world, the only reason most first-world country humans don't act like this is because they're not actually constantly hungry. Alice even makes a point of telling Luka that you have to kill to eat.
>>507034274I mean to be fair anon Queen Harpy’s tribe is nearly wiped out and they actually love her as the Queen (she did do a good job at managing their affairs with humans and settling issues at home and quarantined everyone for the safety of their neighbors when they got the virus) but she also isn’t in as bad a position by the end of her story; last I was aware Priestess gets no respect and keeps being forced into it no matter how much they hate it and every time we get a continuance for her it only gets worse. The fact she’s functioning as their tardwrangler at all is nothing short of a miracle.
>>507035147Slimes also eat anyoneThe final evolution for Land-Dwellers is Dimensional Eroder and she's hunger incarnateHumans will eat pretty much anything tooA lot of the Sea-Dwellers are carnivorous and I feel like OT Anglerfish actually eats another monster at some point? could be misremembering
>>507035160stop posting, Hiruko
>>507035160>Alice even makes a point of telling Luka that you have to kill to eat.Alice's takes on society are so shit that quoting her makes you dumber than Luka. Monsters are not mindless animals, they can live just like humans if they put some effort into it and try.
>>507035479>they can live just like humans if they put some effort into it and try.Bro where do you think your food comes from
Are there even any monsters that NEED to kill humans to survive? As far as I remember they all have other ways of getting nutrients.
>>507035479>they can live just like humans if they put some effort into it and try...they can be constantly at war and systemically harming each other for personal gain?
>>507035536Chonker runs like a formula.
>>507035579The vast majority don't use humans as their primary food source ever, the math just doesn't work out. Humans only reproduce so quickly.>NEED to kill humans to surviveDo you NEED to eat meat, fruit, and vegetables to survive instead of surviving off of onions and multivitamins?
>>507035715>onionsfuck the wordfilter, you know what I meanthe actual marketed drink for silicon valley fanboys
>>507035536I mean, if we assume that plansect retards are as dumb as pigs then yeah you have a point. But then sparing them like Luka did makes no sense, just chop them up into a salad and be done with it.
>>507035715>Do you NEED to eat meat, fruit, and vegetables to surviveYes.>surviving off of onions and multivitamins?You can't survive like this.
>>507035787>as are dumb as pigs...smarter than dogs? Face it bro we eat pigs because they're tasty, not because it's somehow morally justified (or unjustified) to do so. We breed them in giant factory farms and butcher them en-masse every year because sausage is delicious.
>>507035579No, and the VN and Paradox does say that humans being attacked are super rare, and only started to ramp up by the time Luka started his journey for obviously different reasons.A bunch of overworld monsters even say that it's been forever since they saw a human in their fight dialogue, and have been surviving off things like wildlife.Only the replicants need to actually kill the human for reproduction as far as I'm aware of.
>>507035862>You can't survive like this.You literally can. It'll be a shit life and not a particularly healthy one but you will not die of malnutrition because s/oyl/ent is formulated to provide most of your essential nutrients.
>>507035982No. Stop falling for scams like some naive kid.
>>507036076Fine, an IV nutrient drip then (which people can and do survive off of for many years at a time). The point stands.
>>507036076Anon, we have literal, super vegan freaks today.They look fucking disgusting, and not healthy, but they are still surviving.
>>507036217Not the way it works, IV nutrient drips are supposed to be a temporary measure not a lifelong one.>>507036278They're "surviving" because their own body breaks down and eats itself to support their "diet". Not because their diet is so "viable". Long time "super vegans" simply do not exist, many of them have "cheat days" where they eat actual food but their insane diet is still killing them little by little.
>>507036217This would be a better point if it were actually possible to run a society off of nothing but hospital patients on life support. >>507036278Last I checked, I'm pretty sure vegans eat vegetables.
>t-these 5 are stronger than illias or alice chaos!>beat them all down easily later
>>507036564>are supposed to be a temporary measure not a lifelong oneAnd yet, people in comas are still on them after 10 years. Alive. You're factually incorrect that you can't survive on a diet of veggies only, esp. when supplemented by multivitamins. It doesn't matter if they are extremely unhealthy.
>>507036670>This would be a better point if it were actually possible to run a society off of nothing but hospital patients on life supportThe IV is the relevant part, not the life support part. The entire fucking analogy is not literally "we should do this" but rather "just because it's technically possible doesn't mean we want to do it because enjoyment is also important".
>minagi is one of the two ancestors that were shown managing a stable territory, with the only people making trouble being the ones that explicitly rebelled against her>raphaella is the only seraph shown managing a stable, non-dystopian territory and is the only smart seraph >she is also part succubus>tfw succubi might unironically be one of the smarter races out there, further supported by the fact one of their subraces are dedicated mages
>>507036670Man, that part with the adult Promestein humming or whatever the song that the young one was singing while building the shrinking ship was too goddam cute. It's interesting to see how different this one and the one from the VN are.
>>507036708>>507036828Again, no. the body of these patients survives by eating itself. The IV does nothing more than slow down this process and an IV patient, if conscious can't even get off the bed by himself because he has no energy for such strenuous activity. It's literally a last-resort that your body goes through hoping food will come to you somehow before shutting down for good(dying).
>>507036924if they're so smart then why are the majority of them stupid assholes who kill their main food source despite their powersets being built for infiltration and subtleness
>>507037070>it's literally a last-resortAnd yet, these people survive for 10+ years, which doesn't seem like a last resort to me. Kill yourself, retard.
>>507037148Yes, surviving for 10+ years by eating themselves.
I love how Asuka no Mikoto is just constantly plotting during the banquet and thinking about what to do to be able to fuck Luka
>>507037293Yes. Which is surviving, as you just admitted. Which is all I said they were doing. Not that they were healthy or happy. I explicitly said they weren't. What are you arguing against?
>>507037080But they don't?We have a literal village of them that was doing just fine, and it wasn't until a super pissed off human turned succubi showed up that it went to shit for a while.
>>507037408It's called starvation.
>>507037459Succubus village was only ever doing fine because one succubus decided to tard wrangle them into not being shitters, similar to Minagi. It's not that they cant be corraled into being less shit it just feels like their default state is to be extreme shitters
>>507037515Are they, or are they not, staying alive for decades? Answer the question, yes or no only.
>>507037293Anon surviving is just being alive for extended periods of time, they're certainly not THRIVING, which is surviving healthily, but they are surviving
>>507037515During the 1300s before the Black Death people were running up against the carrying capacity of Europe and were super malnourished. That didn't stop them from getting to 50 or 60 if they survived childhood and no actual famines hit. Sounds like surviving to me, just poorly.
>>507037638They. Can't. Survive. Can't. Reproduce. Starved. Mothers. Are. Infertile. Speacies. Dies. Out. Human. Starves. Enters. Authopaghy. Eating. Itself. To. Get. To. Next. Meal. So. Enough. Energy. The. Body. Gets. For. Species. Survival.>>507037761Anon your body can take this punishment because it's going into its "savings" account and starts eating itself. You cannot sustain this sort of behavior and the species will die out with your generation.
>>507036828>just because it's technically possibleIt's still not possible to run a society off of intravenous fluid alone. Logistically, if nothing else. This is just not a functional analogy because it's assuming a bare-minimum level of viability that simply doesn't exist under the criteria you're setting out.
>>506925923>Fuck Alma in a non sexual way. Fuck that bitch.She has no problem openly talking about her masochistic fantasies. I doubt there's a non sexual way in her eyes.
>>507037908>You cannot sustain this sort of behavior and the species will die out with your generation.Huh, what a claim! That didn't happen in Europe during the 1300s, in fact population growth continued and fertility rates didn't really flatline until the big natural disasters started wiping out multiple percentage points of the population.>autophagyDid you just learn this word or some shit nigger? Because autophagy may be real but it's neither lethal nor terminal if it's not accompanied by actual starvation, and nobody survives actual starvation for more than a few months at best. If you survive 10 years on the fucking drip, you're not starving. >Starving mothers aren't fertileYeah ok bro, tell that to the peasants who survived off of mostly beans and grain and yet led up to the unfortunate event that is you.>>507038010You're either missing the point on purpose, or incredibly fucking retarded.
Shit, not again. Don't disappear on me again Sonya
Fuck
>>507037613smart =/= wise
>>507038282During famines you had mass deaths and cannibalism spikes as well, things that even peasants would look down on were also used as food as well, literally how snails and frogs got so popular in France. It just meant less mouths to feed so the survivors would have enough calories to survive. It's that simple.What you're suggesting leads to authophagy where there body starts eating HEALTHY TISSUE to survive.Only peasants that had food survived and even then their bodies were stunted due to malnutrition and they would simply grow up shorter. If they had any less calories which is why famines were so devastating in the past they would just die and there'd be less mouth to feed. You're just not as smart as you think.
>>507038754So let's return to the questionthe people on IV drips who manage to stay alive for 10+ years in a comaAre they, or are they not, living human beings who, despite any other health issues they may have, have survived?Yes or no only. That's all I need from youAlso I do want to note that at the very least you're enough of a disingenuous fuck that you've successfully moved the argument from monsters eating monsters to bullshit nobody actually cares about, and are managing to be wrong about even that. So congrats. You should go work for the IDF.
which class unlocked clothes mastery omega again? lucifina's unique gear being skimpy clothes means that she doesn't benefit from robe masteries
>>507039050QoBF successor I think
>>507035715>Do you NEED to eat meat, fruit, and vegetables to survive instead of surviving off of onions and multivitamins?I don't recall monsters in MGQ experiencing likely long term, severe health problems from prolonged periods of not eating humans/other monsters like we would on a severely restricted diet. Hell, Paradox shows that most monsters will eat a lot of the same shit that humans do without any complaints.I'll put it like this, if I (and a sizable portion of the rest of my species) was sourcing the meat/fruit/vegetables from something that's roughly comparably sentient to us and is a part of the society of the world at large? Yeah, that'd be a problem for the coexistence of species and the fabric of society as a whole. Thing is, outside of very, very specific kinds of animals they're not even remotely comparably sentient to us (even for the intelligent animals we know of it's a stretch to call them comparably sentient) and none of them hold any kind of role in the functioning of our society at large.In the real world (and barring extreme famine) we tend to draw the line at things like poultry and pigs, and the humans in MGQ do the same from what we're constantly shown. If humans functioned the same way the plants and other monsters do in MGQ we'd be crossing that line as a species far more often, you'd be seeing shit like Mermaid sushi or Scylla on a stick as meals. To my immediate recollection, I don't think anything like this has ever happened in MGQ. The predatory practices of comparably sentient life, life that also helps keep the world and society at large functioning, are purely from the monster side. They don't need to do this to live, or even to thrive, they generally do it purely for their own personal pleasure and with no real regard to the consequences of their actions or chaos it might bring.Luckily for them though, MGQ doesn't really care all that much about consequences for shit like this.
>>507039095fucki don't wanna make my mom a rapist but i do want the stat boni
>>507038996>accuse your enemy of what you're guilty ofNah, fuck you I'm not replying to your midwit ass again. You can survive off of onions and multivitamins if you're so convinced of your own conclusions.
>you've successfully moved the argument from monsters eating monsters to bullshit nobody actually cares aboutholy projection
>>507035715>Do you NEED to eat meat, fruit, and vegetables to survive instead of surviving off of onions and multivitamins?yes you fucking moroneating is not just about nutrition, it also helps your mental healthwant it or not having a good meal can be the difference between nice or a bad day at times, and imo the effect it can have on the human mind cannot and should not be underestimated because sure we could just live off nutrition paste but who the fuck wants to live like that?
>>507039241I accept your concession, Israelite.
>>507039436>it also helps your mental health>but who the fuck wants to live like that?Thanks for making my point for me, this is exactly what I was saying. Just because it's possible on a meatpuppet level doesn't mean anyone wants to do it.
>anons puts all plants on IV drips>plants die out in a single generationCouldn't have seen that one coming.
>>507039436Waaaaaaaah! Stop moving the goalposts, kike!
>>507039634Honestly reminds me of Mao's four pests campaign and the sparrows.
>>507039164>If humans functioned the same way the plants and other monsters do in MGQ we'd be crossing that line as a species far more often, you'd be seeing shit like Mermaid sushi or Scylla on a stick as meals. To my immediate recollection, I don't think anything like this has ever happened in MGQnta but 99.9% of MGQ humans roll over and die almost instantly if monsters actually decide to fight them. The royalty are in a league of their own and there's always wandering heroes, but both Sabasa and Grand Noah were on the verge of straight up losing the invasions during part 2 (San Ilia has a hard point and King Grangold probably could've held out). Even if humans wanted to eat scylla on a stick there's no way they'd be able to do so in any meaningful quantity, it'd be like serving dragon steak. Long before we ask whether or not it's morally acceptable we have to ask who the fuck is slaughtering dragons for meat.
>>507039634you say it like plants dying would be a bad thing PLANT HATE
>>507039634>>507039670you seem mad
>>507038620Only read after you finished this arcI thought it was Sonya too when I reach here
>>507039860The kingdoms were super weak after burning through their resources and manpower due to a third party manipulating them into a war.Even after the surprise attack, they mention that they would be able to hold out for a few months.
>>507039634A lot of the murderwhore plants are obligate carnivores so they probably couldn't even digest pure plant matter desu
>>507039987Yes, I am one person as well.
>>507038996Intravenous fluid is produced from plants, anon. They're still eating plants.
whens the marriage update
>>507040130Torotoro claims as much, but torotoro also seems to think that most people would be willing to let bygones be bygones so desu I don't buy his talk, we SEE the cities getting stomed and the powerlevel of the high class monsters includes shit like simply mind-controlling entire groups of people at once.
>>507039860>Long before we ask whether or not it's morally acceptable we have to ask who the fuck is slaughtering dragons for meat.tails grow back
>>507040427>tails grow back
>>507040427They literally do don't they? It's probably meant as comic relief but a bunch of monsters say as much when they yank off their body parts to give you as a gift during dialogue. Succubus Nun is the one I remember most clearly.
You know, it'd be really cool if instead of Chain Abilities being called "Hero/Angel/Worm/Bitch" Chain, they were named after what they are doing. like Sword > Hero. Or Hero Chain: Sword > Heroi.Abilities are still a slog to go through despite it all after all.
>>507040914If you have a general sense of what the class/species is aimed for it's not too bad, but yeah it's clumsy.
Anons arguing wether you can survive on onions or wether it's good to eat sentient creatures if you don't need, when we should all be sacrificing our lives to monsters to be killed in pleasure.
kek adding Gabriela to my party in postgame and talking to everyone is pure gold
Leave Hiruko to me!
Did they change the damage formula going into part 3? All my units became shit suddenly lol.
>>507040539This is surprisingly topical.
>>507009323In the new lore there were three sapient species that already existed when Alice and Ilias found the planet.
>>507035913Bruh, Pigs are terrible creatures, you could raise one all your life and it will try to eat if it misses one meal. Pigs deserve EVERYTHING that happens to them
>>507041420If you're doing less damage than before, it's at least partially because all stat up buffs don't stack with specific-stat-up anymore for the most part.
>>507041772Pigs are based, honest, and epic, fuck you>hurr durr no loyaltynot everything needs loyalty, the pig would've survived just fine without you, you're just keeping it in your house for your own amusement.
>>507030128Energy sabers are fucking cool.
>>507041420If you transferred from the demo, there was a bug there that accidentally doubled all damage you dealt.
>>507042000Star Wars was never good.
>>507041909No they're not especially if they get free, then they become a plague of boars that eat every and anything they get.
>>507042109Seems like they're based and epic. Disappear beneath the tide of pigs, for the suids will inherit the earth.
>>507040295NTA but that only works because humans in MGQ are turbo betas.
>>507042275The men maybe but the women honestly seem just as aggressive and plotting as women in heat irl
>>507035913bruh, I'm not interested in your real life society hot takes. Monsters are supposed to be as sapient as humans and as such there is no justification for them to act like animals that need to kill each other to eat.
If monsters want to eat and kill eachother that's fine. But killing humans is wrong and all monsters that do show should be killed no matter what Luka thinks
>>507042439Luka runs the show with an iron fist now and isn't actually okay with monsters killing humans so desu I doubt there will ever be a violent death again
>>507041297I would actually use her, just because I have a soft spot for sad, evil women who regret their choices in life. But her trait is so shit, that it makes her the worst one out of all the ancestors and archangels.
pigs are cool, their legs taste great when cured shut the fuck up i'm not hiruko
>>507042591>the most boring way to use a pig for foodHam is pretty good thoughAlso can Hiruko even distinguish the taste of shit in a way we'd understand, she has opinions on the texture of fucking marble
>>507042591>pigs are cool, their legs taste great when cured shut the fuck up i'm not hirukoEven if you were you are in your right. >>507042513I don't know he runs into a few monsters that gloat about eating people and does nothing
>>507042591Are you hungry?
All that talk of vore made me want to kill a shikibus and eat her.Delicious succubrisket....
>>507033991Plants are consistently the most vore/murderhappy monsters in the setting. So imagine you're someone who wants your race to NOT murder and eat people. She's constantly trying to wrangle them away from that while they try their damndest to disobey her.
Honestly if I were constantly fucking starving like Hiruko I'd probably be a monster too, I get cranky and aggressive if I miss breakfast a couple of days in a row I can't imagine being constantly hungry and smelling food everywhere around you
>>507042779Shiki girls do look tasty.
>>507042779Illegal!
>>507042679she's by her own admission a gourmet and she did make a point about how she loved how eden tasted to the point it was a near obsession for her, if anything her being a literal omnivore means she's tasting stuff in ways we can't even understand>>507042701... that's besides the point
>>507042998>she's by her own admission a gourmet and she did make a point about how she loved how eden tasted to the point it was a near obsession for herDoesn't seem to stop her from just shovelling trash into her mouth though
>>507042893I want to nibble on Hiruko's plump thighs...
>>507043189They'll do more than just nibble back.
>>507042895>shikis can freely murder and eat people and are always given some excuse because evil woman sexy>anon wants to murder and eat a shikibus for a change>"NOOOOOO THIS IS ILLEGAL!!111 MY HECKIN' MURDERWHORINOS!"
>>507035160Only a retarded vegan equates eating animals with eating people.
Mister Luka, i have a question! If humans are descended from Alfs, and Alfs are monstergirls, does that not make humans monstergirls too?
>Hiruko asks Lucifina what happened to the moon after she smashed the Demiurge with it>it'd be a pain if it ended up crashing in the ground, so I blew up high into the air. It escaped orbit and flew off somewhere.Holy shit
>>507035715Guess where those vitamins in your supplements come from, dipshit. Processed animals and plants.
>>507041069Holy true.
>>507043302Yes, thankfully we became a tolerant bunch and we accept all girls here
>>507043281I'm not a vegan and eat animals all the time, I'm just not in denial about the fact that the need to eat precedes and supersedes any bullshit moralistic arguments. The reason cannibalism isn't commonly practiced is because it's extremely unstable socially, not because it's inherently morally unacceptable (it clearly isn't, because it's not even that uncommon in failed societies as far as archaeology can show us)
>oh, you're asking me for pleasure?>very well, I will be taking your life in exchange>until you are dead>no take backshave some damn respect for the most important person in existence who despite everything is still a growing boy surrounded by sultry naked sex fiendshmph
>>507041069>wether you can survive on onionsChopped onions fried on lard are fucking delicious and I could just eat this stuff spread on bread all day
>>507043302Wouldn't you rather find out if this fish is tasty or not instead of asking complicated questions?
I'm pretty sure actual onions have almost all of the necessary nutrients desuPotatoes, cheese/butter/milk, and salt provides basically everything too
>>507043302Alfs were not monster girls though.They were like some sort of Atlantean equivalent, super advanced humanoid species that devolved into shitters like modern elves and humans.
>>507043241Deep down, they are good girls. They just need a penis to reach so deep it'll uncover their good nature.
>>507043302>and Alfs are monstergirlsThey're not, they've got nothing to do with Alice I. Alfs, Banshees, Dimensional Eroders, Star-Eaters, etc. are all not monster girls.
This thread is going into some insane bullshits.
>>507043980Welcome to /mggg/
Are beasts units just doomed to all be shit? They're weak to pleasure and nearly everything uses pleasure in this game.
>>507044060They're pretty awooo-ful.
>>507039634>>507040135They could literally just eat a cow or something, I'm not sure why everyone played along with that vegan faggot's idea that they NEED to eat humans to be healthy when that isn't the case.
>>507044179I'm not a vegan, Israelite. Stop ascribing your own moral beliefs to me.>>507044060Pretty easy to get pleasure negation/reduction/whatever, or just swap to a different race. Did you just start out?
>>507044380>Did you just start out?Just finished part 1. Some of my favorite units are beasts but every enemy has a chance to just instantly nuke them with pleasure damage.
>>507042029His sword is more like Zero's, which is cool.
>>507044482Yeah there's ways to patch it up later on, don't worry too much about itTrain them in the prostitute class (iirc), one of those classes gives pleasure damage and status resistance.
>>507007838Can't say I blame Lazarus for being done with this shit. Somehow paradox had gotten more convoluted than Fateverse
>>507043572>N-nobody cares about ethics because I'm a little edgelord teenShut the fuck up, faggot. Animals are not people. Plants are bad because they eat people. They don't need to eat people. And so there is no justifiable reason for them to eat people. End of story, eat a bullet.
>>507044760No u.>N-nobody cares about ethics becauseBecause archaeology tells us so. Get real.>justifiable reasonThe "justifiable" reason is that they're strong enough to do so. The "justifiable" reason to wipe them out is that you're strong enough to do so. Luka is strong enough to do so, and chooses not to. Nobody else who cares is strong enough to do so. Cope, seethe, and mald more.
>>507043815Maybe Heinrich was so strong because his bloodline is closer to the Alfs. The whole hero being descendant of an ancient lost lineage is popular after all.
>>507044959Heinrich is just a freak of nature as far as we can tell, the "close to the original" kind of human are the royal families but Heinrich himself wasn't royal, he just boinked a royal afterwards.
>>507044943>Literal world of STR retard is shitting up the thread
>>507045057You're not in a position to dictate morality, coastal liberal.
>>507044060>they're the only race that naturally learns time stop without having to jump hoops through race change to swap into archfiendswhat do you mean, they're great
>>507044943>The "justifiable" reason to wipe them out is that you're strong enough to do so.might makes right really is a classic
>>507044959Nothing noteworthy. The Queen of Remina from his time even notes that Luka has eyes like hers UNlike Heinrich, which indicates he was full normal pureblooded human without anything noteworthy.He just had skill, autistical obsession and Angel's Halo. And while Luka was a fast learner it took him a long time to master the spirits, with at least a year to learn Serene Mind. He attacked Heaven without the Four Spirits and Angel Halo only got powered up AFTER he killed a crapton of angels.He is a complete aberration that unlike all other aberrations there isn't anything magical or inborn talent there.
>>507045240All morality that isn't pure monkeybrain concepts of fairness/equity/justice is really might makes right desu. It's just natural selection among societies. Completely amoral sociopath cultures collapse or get wiped out, ones that actually have a decent morality/ethical code that is conducive to organizing people in nondestructive ways flourish and spread. The problem is that it all falls apart once you add something like the plants which seem like they can individually wipe out half an army on their own into the picture.It really is still wrong for the plants to eat people, but less because "actually it's morally bad" and more because "wow this is incredibly stupid and leads to people throwing rocks at us while the angels jeer from rooftops, I guess we're going to be the underclass of this country now, all because we're untrustworthy bastards".
>>507045382>and Angel's Halohe didn't have that until his rampage, he pretty much just had very good gear (he had meteor gear on steroids) and mastery over the spirits, even then they do imply he was born different since the VN and some bits of paradox did treat him like there was something unusual with him
>dungeon_safar.ogg
>go back to Iliasville after beating the game>statues of Luka EVERYWHERE>literally dozens of random NPCs all over the village as touristslmao
>>507046043>even then they do imply he was born different since the VN and some bits of paradox did treat him like there was something unusual with himborn different (hero of destiny, warrior of light)
>>507046043he was born different most certainly, but he doesn't have wacky bleach bloodline shit like Luka, he's just that good. On the note of heinrich, I honestly wonder why Alice ever bothered teaching Luka Quadruple giga. The QnA says it takes a solid 30 seconds to charge it up which makes it completely impractical to ever use in a fight. It makes sense as to why Heinrich invented elemental spica but it calls to question as to why anyone thinks Quad Giga is worth anything
>>507046275The better you are with the elements the faster you can charge them and the more powerful it is. QnA states Heinrich's Quad Giga charges in half that time and the game says it's at least twice as powerful as Luka's. He's good enough to dodge while charging it too.
>>507046275it might be situational but a nuke is still a nukealso remember that in the VN heinrich could just dodge around while charging it, luka having to stay still while charging it is because while he does have more raw power he's still not as good as heinrich when it comes to handling the spirits
>>507046653Heinrich really was just built different
>>507043815I just realized that Alf might have come from Alefgard, the kingdom in DQ1-3.
>>507044943>>507045057>>507045240>>507045642
>>507046043He had the proto-angel halo, which was just a holy sword, not the melted mass it is. Lucifina gave it to him while she was still loyal to Ilias.
>>507045057He'll be among the first to become Kanon's latest art pieces!
Finally, I finished my farming, now it's time to-who the fuck are you?I never ever saw her when I was in this zone, is this a super rare encounter?>>507047551Oh god.
>>507047897 Zelenin is right I don't think Law's path of mind controlling humanity in subservience is any better
>>507048479New Law and New Chaos are better endings. New Neutral is just MC turning into Doomguy.
>>507048872No spoilers anon I only just got to just after Zelenin said that bit in the first pictureStill thinking of going neutral though, Gore is cool and I dont want to abandon THE MISSION
>>507047551Alf comes from actual Germanic mythology. The Alfr are what Tolkien elves are based off of.>>507048173She's not common but not rare eitherShe's pretty cute desu, cool kyou is very cool
>>507048173she's a very friendly cute retard
>everyone talking about monsters casually mutilating themselves and not giving a fuckRight when I get to this moment, you'd be challenged to find angels this dumb
>>507049014You should do all paths anyway.
>>507048872I was proud of both Zelenin and Jimenez, but a bit more of ma boi.SJR took a shit on a game with stupid endings. I liked that remake,even if some people called it disrespectful.>>507049014>neutral>Gore is coolI have bad news...
>>507049525in all fairness limbs are a bit more disposable when you can regenerateand morrigan is also not the brightest party member
>>507049118Seriously? I spend a lot of time in there and I never saw her until now.>>507049296Like most giant monsters?
>>507044745
>>507049836not really, most giant monsters are either indifferent or aggressive, she's VERY friendly even by regular monster standards
>>507048173Welcome to part 3You might even encounter new monster during chaos route even though they're just recolor
>>507050046Bro, how can you say that about my girl there?>>507050104That's one way to make sure you don't miss anything?
>>507050372Big dumb turtle born to be bullied.
It's been sixth days since I wander in Castle of Seven Deadly Sin, and I still couldn't meet a single Shadow of Wrath.Fuck this cow
>>507049525How tf did this creature survive past her 20's?
>>507051138Plot armor.
>Talking about all the slaughter and war crimes your mom committed She was a scamp in her younger days,huh.Luka might be a bit more twisted than I thought and apparently she was a shit cook too
>>507050372>That's one way to make sure you don't miss anything?It is, thus you should keep a MW/AW backup to fill in your monsterpedia
>>507051882Oh it's in the internal whatever save?
>>507052139Yes
>>507052516...I want them in my castle, and have their items in my inventory tho///
>>507052658>CastleRecolor can be recruit too>ItemAW/MW items are pretty outdated by the time of chaos route
>>507052880Completionism bro.
>>507050481Not as much as polar bear girls
Just realized you can delete learned skills. Which means you can eliminate all the bad pulls from berserkers acting randomly. At the point I'm at that sounds very strong.
>>507044760Most "humans" aren't people either. Just retarded NPCs, might as well be bots.
10 trillion pleasure damage... concentrated at the tip of my penis...
>>507054605Luka...
I should have seen it coming lol.
>>507057748MW > AW as usual
>>506928964Nope.The Marlboro girl is one of the few carnivorous plants that doesn't vore you during any of her scenes (requests or losses), actually. She's surprisingly affectionate, enough that I'd consider using her if she didn't have one of the laziest designs in the game.
How do you get Luka to wear the final upgraded hero gear? I can only get ultimate heinrich to wear it
Marry and reproduce With FOXES
>>507059575but my lineage...Also, I refuse to believe that Nero didn't get at least molested while growing up in the kitsune village
>>507059575Raising the next generation of foxes together with your fox wife...
Where can I get power crystal and oni horn now that the enemies that drop them no longer exist.
>>507059364Singlehandedly making the argument that carnivorous plants don't ALL have to be genocided.
>>507061991use harpy's steal material. Yeah it's pretty bad
Anyone know how Idea Lukas's counter works? Does he just counter every attack or does it have a limit?
>>507048173Anon did you catch the gigadryad in Forest of Spirits? Monstro and that bitch were girls that I almost missed on my AW route.
Big thank to Anons for reminding me that Hades and refighting are a think. The Robbery Machine is still on!Too bad I can't get Hiruko Cells or Chaosium.>>507059364>picOh hey, I don't think I have recruited her actually.
>>507063961The girl made of wood with the weird nipples? I got her.Very rare that bitch.
>>507059553Final upgraded hero gear is Heinrich's exclusive equipment. Luka has his own unique exclusives.
>>507059553>he didn't check who could actually wear it before crafting itbwo...hope you had a second set of hero or heinrich gear lol
>>507059696>entrusting your son's "education" to a literal vixenWhat were Alice and Luka thinking?
>>507066493thinking?
>>507066493The fact that she is still trusted with a kid after two spectacular failure is a mystery.
>>507059696as much as I hate his addition to the series, the thought of an autistic boy being molested by a bunch of horny fox women is amusing and hot as fuck
>VN Lucifina decides to die and leave pre-teen Luka alone in the backwards Ilias worshipping village where everyone except one woman hates her and Luka>She didn't just transform into an angel to heal herself and transform back into a human after. >No she instead leaves him to be influenced by Ilias completely.>Singularity Lucifina didn't even have Ilias personally sending the plague or wanting her back as she was too busy suppressing the spread of Chaos in Ilias Temple at this time>Also leaves Luka alone as a pre-teen. It's better as Iliasville citizens aren't a bunch of cunts this time around but it's still a fucked up thing to do to your son.It bothers me that Lucifina being such a terrible mother is never really brought up in either game. She's not a monster so she should be exempt from Trtr's usual monster apologist writing.
>>507066330Well at this point, the previous tier hero gear is useless because it doesn't have enough gem slots.
>>507066636Nero is nice so I'd say they did the right thing.
>>507067564That's more like Nero being Nero honestly.
>>507067621Nope.
>>507067765Great argument. You'll go far in your life.
>>507067843I just respond to shitposting accordingly.
>>507067972>durr hurr it's shitposting
>>507068097Yep, you're doing it again.
>the previous tier hero gear is useless>he doesn't knowPLEASE TELL ME YOU HAVE AT LEAST A SPARE HEINRICH SET AND THE RESOURCES NEEDED FOR REGULAR HERO GEAR
>>507068160Whatever you say little baby.
>>507068429>>507068160
>>507068904Now kiss.
AIIIE HELP ME A MERMAID CORNERED MESHE JUST CASTED MINI ON ME FOR SOME REASON WHAT D
>>507069120Thankfully I'm not a homo like you.
>>507051138Muh "much stronger than Alma Elma". Take that as you will because MW/AW gameplay scaling would mean the Lilith Sisters and Seraphs are simultaneously the weakest and strongest in their worlds
>>507068330I do have a spare set since you get one from medal king and one from monster lord's castle. BRB gonna make a second set of Hero's radiant armor, see if that works on Luka
>>507068330...No
>>506331145This is perfect! Thank you preganon, and Merry Christmas!I've been busy with my thesis and haven't been browsing as often. I still love you!
>>507069781bwo...regular hero gear is used to make luka's unique gear so go get some medals and exchange heinrich gear from the medal king to get new hero items asapregular ones not radiant gear
So it seems that I found another Byakko Fang in Ilias Route, which I also upgraded; my questions, where did I found it, and where are the others?>>507069313Still seething about Alma.
>>507069915>picA representation of CDM explaining things to Lucifina.
>>507070723you know, the cow demon queen is one of the few monsters retarded enough to be smug at lucifina so that checks out
Orc wife didn't leave, this time Luka did. What a failure hero, umber one rule of being one is to always return alive to your loved onesI'm tired of this, nothing but slaughter and death no matter the route, there has to be another way, this is too much
>>507070562Fenrirs drop them
>>507071271good newsif you did both routes there might be a better way
>>507071509You forgot the bad news.
>>507071278Oh thanks.I wonder if any other monsters drop the three other pieces.
>>507071740can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs even if it does eventually work out and some of the eggs had it coming anyways
>>507071959Point me toward the eggs that were broken.
>>507072116A few villages got shikied to death
>>507072272Ah yes, clearly, those eggs had it coming. Especially compared to others.
>>507072116the fabric of realityalso the town of lima that's still a wreck because it only exists in the prime world where it got nuked before the merge so it stayed a pile of rubble and corpses lol lmao
>>507072404Their fault for not having gameplay essential blacksmiths/battlefuckers
>>507072474I've read that as ligma at first jesus>>507072534FUCK that's a solid point actually.
Dammit, she went down that path after all
She's traumatized
>>507072994deserved tbdesu
>>507072815Do those priests pray to Ilias during that sequence by the way? It's kind of weird that Ilias anything would survive in Prime MW.
>>507072994I want Queen Eva + Luci threesome...
>>507067385That was always weird to me. For all she knew he would just die on his own or survive badly which is... Yikes sis, yikes.I would have kinda liked if she wasn't actually dead in Paradox and just transformed back into an angel, she just decided to go after Marcellus and ask him "Hubby what the fuck".
>>507072994I want them to kiss.
>>507073941Lucifina was a terrible mother for that but considering what game we're talking about here she's pretty low on the bad mother olympics. At least she seemed to care for Luka decently well while she was alive, at the very least
>>507042029Well fuck you too
>>507073165No, IIIas's name is mud now, the only people who still care about her are her two flunkies who live here waiting for little IIias to return meanwhile Worldbreaker seems to have more resolve than Judgement, Judgement ended his own llife because he could not handle the guilt anymore meanwhile IIias was just tired she could say nothing, where as with Worldbreaker he throws aside his doubts and Alice seems to actively be communicating with him as he charges into destroying another world and another and another until he's eventually consumed by chaosin short, IIIas is pretty shit for Luka's mental stability where as Alice and Sonya are far better for him, through it makes sense because both of them have the personality Luka is attracted to, IIias is an annoying woman child even on her good days
>>507073941Her pride was more important. If she changed back, it would mean Ilias would win, and there is nothing that Lucifina hates more than letting her mother beat her.
>>507067385Lucifina inherited the shitty mother retardation from Ilias. At least Alice was smart enough to have 2 heavenly knights support her.
>>507042029What no it isn't.>>507044495They are both cool swords.
>>507074273That's a lot of projection.
>>507074273Very true. Also judgement looks like a soicuck.
>>507074273>all of that>for a shitpost full of lies and headcanonsMotivated are we?
>>507074179Yeah she was actually a mother acting as a mother, but what the fuck, you don't leave your kid alone.>>507074332This say terrible things about her, her sense of family, and how much she take them from granted.>>507074363Define "support".
>>507074481>>507074612He's canonically right, especially in the second paragraph.
>>507067246He was probably told it's training and he unironically 100% believed it every single time.
>>507074879Ok schizo. No need for samefagging.
>>507075030>schizo calls everyone samefag Nice projection
>>507075030That wasn't me you faggot.
>>507074273Okay, where did the bad goddess touch you, anon?
>>507074961>ummm mistress Tamamo, how does this "exercise" help me get stronger?
>>507075598CGBA?
>>507074273>Sonya
>>507075674If I were her, I would be worried about Nero stabbing me in the crotch.
>>507074273> IIias is an annoying woman child even on her good daysTRVTHNVKE
Hell yeah my boy found a spine! I one turned all you fuckers before and I'll do it again!
>>507075139>>507075519Yes yes, shhh take your meds go back to sleep.
Fuck your judge, fuck your world breaker we're doing this our way
>>507074273Facts
>>507076293Nice internal monologue
Kinda sad that Trtr didn't try at all with Erubetie in paradox.Erubetie's motivation doesn't really exist in Paradox, the slimes on the Ilias continent live in harmony with Iliasville, why not just turn Slime Mountain into the new proper home for slimes and live peacefully? If it's good enough for the weakest slimes who are also the weakest monsters in the world then it's good enough for every other slime.Could even have conflict here of Erubetie finding out about Slime Mountain after she absorbs a fuck ton of slimes and becomes a hivemind, imagine the guilt. Then there's the conflict of obeying the new Monster Lord's command which would destroy the new peace her species has found at Slime Mountain.The Kanade shit involving Erubetie is beyond boring, literally nothing happens from beginning to end. What did it even change? Couldn't Erubetie have done all this without Kanade's involvement at all?
>>507077125I keep forgetting that she exists. I even think of Granberia more.
>>507077125I don't think slime endangerment is even a thing in Paradox anymore. Her thing is being another distressed Alice XV stooge like Granberria for a while, but goes all in on global genocide before anyone else.
>>507078906why did Erubite fight for the monster lord and absorb all those slimes anyways if coexistence had already been achieved? Erubite has zero reason to even exist as a character in the paradox world yet she just kind of does because she did in the VN
>>507079282Did they fight for the title of monster lord now that I think about it? It's been a while since I played through Paradox 1-2, so did we get a detailed account of Alice XVI winning like in the VN? I remember Alice saying how the HKs loyalty is to the throne, which is kind of odd since it should be to the victor, and how she was made the successor a few years after her mother "died".
>>507076121>That plan is far too dangerous, and I will not permit it.>Yeah? what are you gonna do about itGreat moment.
>>507076293You should stop humiliating yourself.
Is the best forbidden class for Luka the demihuman class? It seems super OP just because of the +100% crit damage passive. I haven't unlocked whatever the demonoid forbidden class is yet.
>>507077125erubetie needed a stat up/nutrait in paradox least crazy way to do it
>>507079282We don't know Erubetie's age, why wouldn't she want to be the monster lord if it means she gets to support her people even better?
>>507079725Nah, her mom asked white rabbit to seal her and she was just tossed out to the ilias continent.
>>507077125Tbf there's not much to do with Erubetie in the first place.
>>507080110well generally it's because we're told that Erubite was fairly gentle but was radicalized because of how shit slimes had it. Slimes are doing pretty okay these days so why is Erubite just as radicalized as she was in the VN. at the very least she shouldn't be nuke button-ing
>>507079282depends on how old eru actually is.. granberia and alma are apparently in their mid-late 20stamamo is over 2k years old and erubetie is unknown. if it happened before the great disaster i can understand it.
>>507080383isn't Alma a century old or so? I thought only Granberia was that young
>>507080383It's mentioned that the more powerful a slime gets, the more they lose their sense of self and become more hivemind like. Now that she's absorbed the Kanade cells, it may be accurate to say that Erubetie Kanade is the same age as Kanade.
>>507080282Paradox world deviation happened right after Remina, up until then it was identical to the VN, and Erubetie was probably still around back then, her hatred just slowly growing, but after the incident and humans slowly accepting coexistence she mellowed out over time, but why would she not want to be the monster lord for her people still?
>>507080642DID she mellow out, though? for as little character that she has, she doesn't seem to be any nicer than her vn counterpart
>>507080642Isn't the simple answer that the Alice's have just been stronger than her?
>>507080534No, q&a says Alma and Granberia are in their 20s, Tamamo is ancient and Erubetie "???"
>>507080827The Paradox battle dialogue says she bears no resentment towards humans, just that she does what she does for Kanade's unification plan
>>507080827Kind of. She is all in on the MW plan, so her going genocide mode doesn't leave much in the for happy dialouge until part 3.
>>507081294man, they really did remove Erubite's sole character trait and replaced it with absolute nothing. She really does kind of just exist
>>507080876do you have the QnA part that lists that? I only ever remember seeing the ones for their cooking abilities and IQ, never one that lists out all of their ages. The cooking one even lists erubite as ???
>>507081494She does have her own internal struggle about the plan, she's hesitant but doesn't know of a better way>"If you were on a mission... Would you be able to do whatever it takes to complete it?">I would be able to - "If so, then so would I..." (+10 Affinity)>I would not be able to - "Really... So, even you wouldn't...">I do not understand - "You have doubts as well, don't you..."
She's excited
nevermind found the age comment myself>Q: Alma Elma and Elbetier's ages were never revealed in the story, so how old are they?A: Alma Elma's age is unknown. It's unclear whether Elbetier even has a concept of age. So who knows how old she's supposed to be. Speaking of Alma, why does a succubus even have a vore tail? They can use every orifice they have to dryfish you so what's the point of having a specialty tail for voring? Where does she even get it from anyways? I dont think Minagi has one.
>>507081494They seem to have split the HKs into different degrees of loyalties. Alma is not loyal at all, and even actively messes with Alice XV plan. Tamamo isn't loyal, but won't try to interfere. Granberria is loyal, but is super hesitant to help. Erubeite is loyal, and while hesitating a bit, is still going all in with the plan.Unfortunately, being loyal means being a antagonist for all of part 1-2.
>>507082292>what's the point of having a specialty tail for voring?If she vores enough people she can become Perfect Alma.
>>507082292Most people like juice, but they also like whole fruit.
>>507082253No. She's just wet.
>>507082253of course she is, she's got a crush so big on him the first thing she did when she became a god was making a palace full of heinrich butlers and she just saw him get a cool new form, she's probably over the moon right now
>>507082514well yeah, but Alma is the ONLY succubus that I know of to have a vore tail. No other succ, not even Migani herself has one and they get along perfectly fine with normal dryfishing. Where did it come from? Why does she get to vore people a different way?
>>507082880Succubus Witch :Am I a joke to you?
>>507083020isn't that just unbirthing? that's not a vore tail
>>507082880>Minimum phantasmalso iirc the shiki succ's tails can open up as welkl so.. yeah horrifcying
>>507082880The succubus nurse and the mayor can make their tails act like a mouth, so i think it's kind of a thing they all can do, but Alma takes it further.
Paipai noticeably can't make Ultra Gem for the Hero. I'm at the third route black alice section. Is that gem craft something that gets unlocked later?
>>507038037Meant for >>506926030 .
>>507083441well yeah I understand succcubi that can turn their spade tail into a mouth for dick sucking and all. But Alma doesn't turn her tail from a spade to the sucking thing it's just like that by default
Help me understand something Thanks to the memory merge I can see why Granberia, Alma would be into Luka, for Alma he's a precious friend no matter which route for Granberia much like Luka was always chasing his father's back, she was chasing Luka's but why Tamamo? for the route you side with the monsters she spends more time talking to Alice for the route without it she seems more interested ins seeing what kind of person luka is but why are Eurebite she was a wall flower on all routes
>tamamo being a CD player was foreshadowing for cyber yamataikino...
>>507083921Don't think about it too hard, they're major characters from the VN so they get included with the other knights. Tamamo's a fairly popular character so I imagine people would get mad >>507084009she repaired Giganto weapon too. I dont think it's foreshadowing as much as it was just always supposed to be that she was "the smart one" and so gets a cyberpunk realm
I have a bigger problem with toothy wing mouths than vore tailsgod I hate that one artist his skills are fine but his designs are complete assyou know the guy who made THAT spider and puts fucking gross maws everywhere I hate it
>>507083921Considering Luka gets some VN memories he finds some connection with the heavenly knights in Paradox as well
>>507084447ok but wings that are mouths and arms sounds better and more metal
>>506949310patmamo
>>507083921Tamamo tries to push Luka towards Alice XVI even with that item. It's a badly implemented fan service that contradicts everything afterwards.
This entire sequence was awesome, I love the look of the mapOnce I'm done with this, I'll try and make another one of those build images for how I've used Lucretia for the anon who was interested
Help I brainrotted my way through the Remina side quest. Who was the boss on the ghost ship? I completely forgot
>>507085613this place looks pretty beautiful even with how it's ruined and forlorn nglpulling out the old item for one more go with it was cool too
>>507086059Alice the 10th
>>507086405Thanks, for some reason I thought it was a beezlebub form but I realize I misremembered.
>>507084447vore tails remind me of cell saga or vacuum cleaners [spoilers]and at worst sandy cheeks
oh hey that's who I've seen posted a couple of times around neat
>>507088018sexo
>>507088018note to self; don't putz around trying to talk to themI forgot how greatly deflectors have stopping helping as much>>507088269managed to recruit one of them too, I doubt I'll ever use her but they're a pretty cool mermaid
>Q. I love Alma Elma! Is it possible that Alma Elma will fall in love with Luca?>I feel like it might be possible depending on the circumstances.She will definitely get more pocket castle scenes right...?
anime moment intensifies the fuck was that song?
>>507089431the dispeller of chaos
>>507089431ARE YOU READY FOR THE GAMEWHY DON'T YOU PRESS ENTER
>>507074273I fundamentally disagree with this. It's less that Judgement has less resolve than World Breaker, but more that his task is far more onerous.World Breaker destroys worlds unilaterally. He doesn't need to know anyone on that world, beyond the bare basics. He just shows up and nukes the place.Judgement must judge EVERY SINGLE individual on a world before he eliminates. He has to know their nature, their actions and their morality. And then he has to render judgement. On countless millions.And while Worldbreaker believes that he is merging souls together (and thus not really 'killing' people), Judgement is under no illusions. He is the greatest mass murderer ever.Alice and Ilias have different reactions, because Alice's relationship with Luka is purely based on romance and companionship. She gets to face the end of the world with the man she loves, and is thus mostly content. Ilias, while not without romantic feelings or a sense of companionship for Luka, also sees herself as a teacher and guide to him. And by the end, she's led Luka into a horrible place. There's a sense of personal failure there, and a terrible regret that Alice wouldn't feel.
>>507089431don't forget to check your luka's abilities
It's not every day you see someone's dream come true, but thanks to modern magic, Reina finally found a way to fly underwaterLook at her go!
>>507088018Are we sure that the Dimension Eater didn't infect the world before Alice and Ilias showed up? Because those tentacles don't look like they belongs on a Mermaid, or their ancestors.
>>507091269Banshee's are predators. Mermaids are to them as as a golden retriever is to a Pleistocene wolf
>how do we meet up with them again?>they got flushed down the drain and end up falling from the exit canalkek
>>507090964I'm a little confused about the World Breaker method. Isn't it just the souls of the Paradox world that is going to be reincarnating on the MW? I thought all the other parallel worlds are going to just be wiped out, without any of the soul shenanigans.
>>507091526Current age mermaids are child predators instead of predators.
>>507092130Every world that is destroyed will merge the souls of the inhabitants with the merged Paradox/MW world.If that wasn't the case, it would just be a directly inferior version of the Judgement plan, which at least saves a few lives on every world.
I knocked up Hild and got Telos as a replacement, what should I do before heading into the tartarus? I have a feeling if I do that the world will change in a big way so any lingering side quests and recruits should be taken care of before tht, right? I'm honestly afraid of chaos enemies, I still can't beat the chaos pandoras in the castle grinding area having to contend with a whole map of these enemies at the moment seems impossible
She'd be pretty cute if it weren't for the ugly camel thing she's attached to.
>>507091526I hate how they got ruined with voreshit.
>>507092598Make Luka strong. Really strong. Jobsmax him, do whatever you can.Without going into too many spoilers, there will be a point where you'll find it hard to use the companions you may want to
>>507092598 Make sure you unequip important items from Hild. You don't need to worry about chaos enemies, the game is going to give you 3 big boy allies to carry you through early game until you're strong enough
>pissed in Lucifina's Son's faceyeah it's over for little ilias. She's never getting enough Lucifina Points to marry Luka.
>>507092052I really like how everyone's slowly rejoining the team through the dungeon journey, it's pretty neat>>507092314Related, this is the name they gave the recolored Meia
>>507090964Good analysis anon, you took the words right out of mouth. Can't believe that the other anon interpreted Ilias as tired rather than guilty/melancholic, it's such a bad read that I'd say it's borderline trolling.
>>507093231From my intensive studies of this topic, I have to conclude that the Japanese, especially Japanese lolicons, really love piss for some reason. So if anything this is considered a positive for her.
>>507093231Good.
>>507093008I wish you had told me that earlier she's back at the lab where I can't touch her anymore she had a gem that gave 10 plus state increases across the board too, fuck.>>507092986any recommended jobs? I've got him as a Seraph and a hero of darkness right now, by the way I've noticed I'm missing the priestess from my pocket castle now do I need to recruit her again by going through her quest line? Papi's instructor won't reveal himself to be Solid Snake either so I guess I gotta do her stuff again too or just bring her to him
This confrontation has been mounting up for quite some timeWell......here we go anons
>>507093231Luka could have just dodged the piss, instead of letting it hit him. Ilias did nothing wrong, her grandson wanted it.
>>507093231She pissed on his dick akshually.
>>507094145Tell that to Lucifina and see what happens.
>>507082292>why does a succubus even have a vore tail?Trtr has always had a snuff fetish. back in the day it was only really achieved through vore or gore which is why the VN has vore plastered all over the damn thing.Shiki introduces the aura energy drain dry fish stuff and Trtr leapfrogs to that to stop vore being literally every scene.I don't doubt for a second that the retarded trio would all have thick vore tails like Alma if Shiki never existed.
boy that is not what i thought she would look likeshe's both pitiful and ghastly at the same timeI can't let it end like this though, we'll beat her no matter what
Huh.
Currently towards the end of the Alice route, first of the three routes for me, doing some last checks before going into what I think is the final battle.Can anything be done with the shrine on Heaven fairy island in this route? And has anyone gotten Ragnarök on route?
ohno
>>507095960The shrine is for combining the four elemental weapons and the four yamatai weapon as a side quest during chaos route. It's supposed to consume the weapons but Ilias goes karen mode and browbeats the shrine into letting her keep them
>>507096163Sea Bears hate dancing, singing, and time stop.
>>507095313In a different, better universe, TRTR hates snuff. In that universe, MGQ is a much better series with much less hateable girls.
>>507095847She may not be literally undead, but this is the best undead design in the franchise.
>>507097375MGEfaggot cope.
>>507097375nobody dies everyone happy instantly nothing to solve
>>507096163>leap time>leap time>leap time>leap time>leap time>>506990398>'surely it can't be that bad anon'>it is, in fact, that badfuckWell this is dire indeed, HOWEVER we have not faltered yetReina has one more style of tricks up her wing>>507095960>And has anyone gotten Ragnarök on route?Gold Fort checkpoint where Kanade and Kanon are fighting each other with their armies.One of them will even tell you it's there and if you go back to them after getting it they complain it got nabbed>>507097446Honestly, I'd say it's one of my favorite undead designs I've ever seen. She looks like a bloated, rotting carcass mangled by depth changes that's spilling out of itself in a way only something that died deep at sea could ever truly look. It's saddening and horrific at the same time.
>>507098038The vore problem is literally never solved
>>507098038There's a difference between fetishized death (snuff) and just dying, idiot.
>>507098098My only question is what the white stuff IS exactly, some kind of ovary, eggs, or infection?
>>507098393yeah, it helps depressed people get what they want. a death that feels good.
I don't know why only Alma is still the only heavenly knight still in my party but after this I hope I can half the other 3 join me, sadly asmuch as I wanted Sonya to be in my active line up for this shot I had to replace her with slightly less crazy black alice because Overload is pure bullshit and I love it she can fire it off 3 times!
>>507098098>actually making great progress on the second try, Reina's actually doing fine>Chirp: Here's a Sparrow Dance, chirp chirp!>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFUCKwelllet's return
>>507098495Haven't seen her scene but I think it was called "fertilization" so I guess they are eggs, kind of like the mermaid queen.
>>507099613Does bondage rope stop the end of turn effects?
>>507098378What problem? A cute monstergirl devours your entire being just for her amusement and you get incredible pleasure.
>>507098495>>507099829Those are indeed her eggs, she has Luka cum all over them to impregnate her
>>507100390>it's implied if not outright stated that her lover was aware of all the stuff that happened during her time resets>tfw he might know about world drown having kids with someone elsenyo...ntr time loop...
>>507099845anon it would paralyze her and keep her from acting at all, it probably would block the dance but Chirp has been the other main player in the run behind Reina for helping to keep everyone alive and I'm going to have to actually think about how to deal with thisI was mitigating the damage Reina took, but she got nicked by World Drown and became weak to nano, and then was ohko'd by the counterattack forcing the try to restartChirp providing free sp is nice and why I originally picked her for that role but if she has a high chance of getting everyone killed (or at least hurt) at the end of every turn I'll need to think of something to do about that. Chirp's build is probably more complicated than Reina's honestly, just nowhere as versatile.>>507100731It's made very clear he knows exactly what's going on, on try #35 he begs her to let him die so he can escape the torment (prompting her to kill him to keep him with her), later he tries to murder her in a rage and eventually he begins attempting suicide only for her to keep reviving him anyway.It's around over 400+ attempts that Allen finally screams about how much he hates her and curses her to a living hell for what she's done, and every page after that point is when it begins to just devolve into "The world was drowned".
>>507100731Rare luka win.
>>507101232its a loss im sorry but mating her in that state is not a good idea.
>>507102180I guess people are entitled to wrong opinions as well.
>>507102375you into crazy yandere asses?
Well does he punch marcellus in the face?
>>507067385Humans bad.Monsters good.Cry about it.
>>507067385
>>507086195Keep track of where it is. You'll need to return at least once later, there's no teleport, and you can't land on it flying.
>>507089431>the fuck was that song?Your new title screen music and the real game beginning.
>>507095313>Shiki introduces the aura energy drain dry fish stuffNigga are you retarded?Like literally THE main thing of succubus throughout history is dryfishing. It's more like Shiki was one of the few people to remember what succubi actually are.>>507097375>In a different, better universe, TRTR hates snuff. In that universe, MGQ is a much better series with much less hateable girls.In a different better universe, you're not a faggot who doesn't know how to skip scenes he dislikes.
>>507095313>Shiki introduces the aura energy drain dry fish stuff and Trtr leapfrogs to that to stop vore being literally every scene.Oh and as a redundant piece of idiocy, you ever actually read Alice's FIRST h-scene in the game?Congrats on being dryfished retard.I'm not even sure Shiki was even doing any art back then.
>>507104604reminder trtr added guro for story purposes despite not liking it.
>>507103831Literally nothing in that post involves monsters.Is this a bot?
>>507104604Snuff faggots are subhuman. Your taste is shit. I can't believe in coexistence when every girl murders you for no reason, which is the central conceit of this franchise. There are also way too many cute designs utterly RUINED by only having snuff shit scenes, especially in Paradox Part 3.
>>507102947I'm into whatever is willing to have sex with me.
>>507104604>Like literally THE main thing of succubus throughout history is dryfishing.No, in actual myth succubi stole men's semen during wet dreams so they could turn into incubi to knock up women with demon children. There was no 'dryfishing' concept in history.
>>507104604>Like literally THE main thing of succubus throughout history is dryfishingWhich mythology are you using? Succubi (and mares, etc) are basically never directly lethal. Sometimes it's not even clear if they actually fuck you.
>>507105138most got a ? variant of their scene where they dont kill you so the purpose of the series is to rehabilitate and make friends with monsters which is hotter than them just being good from the get go koron as a shiki doesnt energy drain at all preferring to use raw muscle during sex which is hot as fuck. Neris as a shiki doesnt kill at all when energy draining despite it giving luka a ptsd episode when she starts it.
>>507106020>most got a ? variant of their sceneNot in part 3.
>>507105138>I can't believe in coexistence when every girl murders you for no reasonSo the thing to keep in mind is that most wild monsters are quite literally wild, a lot of the girls act like they haven't seen a human in years
>>507106020the cynical part of me thinks that the main reason for the ? variant of scenes is just so TrTr doesn't have to write a non smut variant and can just use the normal scene with some minor tweaks
>>507104604>>507104813Alice's first scene is vore, not dryfish.You never played the VN.
>>507106325nta but her first scene, the one you get if you leave her for dead in the forest, is her dry fishing you with her tail. The vore one is if you try to fight her after discovering she's the monster lord.
>>507106020good example of this is Shikimamo, normal scene is energy drain death high affection scene is energy drain but heavy heavy amounts of fearplay and her saying you'll die(similar to vn mamo asking if you wanna give up your soul to cum in her) but ends it with you alive, calling you stupid for thinking that she'd dryfish an ally(which yeah she leaves men alive she's with in makai so it seems that if your an enemy you are ruined but an ally she's really chill which fits in with the grangold bullshit she did.)
Xelvy girls are so good when they aren't obvious body horror material.
>>507106523this>>507106149the ones that dont is cuz trtr is still making scenes(part 3 took so long cuz there's so much art required) Chaos has half a dozen planned one of which is just regular sex i think instead of omnicidal rape/existence drain. BIGNuruko as well and the calamities also have data along with minagi paizuri/spoiler]
>>507106834I actually like xelvy's body horror and think it's where he excels as an artistWhat I dont like is when a character is just traditionally disgusting in a not even interesting way, like queen roach
>>507106834so when they arent apoptosis
>>507106952Hard agree, anyways on e-hentai someone archived his twitter so you can see the cute art he did there.
>>507106834Wrong, That's where he shines>>507106952>, like queen roachYou have No taste
>>507106952Ah yeah the body horror girls are good art too. I should've said "sexy" instead of good. His apoptosis ones are good at being unsettling but cool too.
Xelvy is just a bad artist on a technical level compared to the cutscene artist
>>507104060I'm still trying to work on how to solve my support problem (Reina was fighting and doing damage just fine with her Taoism and Wing skills, but if Chirp can no longer keep everyone alive in the fight and I can't block her trait then I need to figure something else out), but I'm assuming you're talking about the sealed door because there is no way we wouldn't have to come back later to open that.It's fucking R'lyeh isn't it?The Harpies got attacked by what I can only describe as Flying Polyps, talking about sacrificing them to one that is dreaming, and after the Harpies successfully defended Harpy Village and killed all the intruders and the Elder Thing leading them we will eventually one day march down when the stars are right and charge into R'lyeh to fight fucking Cthulhu the space pope himself (or herself, given it's Monster GIRL Quest).I'm a big fan of Lovecraft but everything about this scenario just feels like a fever dream to me. It's so surreal.
Do you get more party slots in part 3?
>>507106325>Alice's first scene is vore, not dryfish.>You never played the VN.You know what the best part is?>>507106523>nta but her first scene, the one you get if you leave her for dead in the forest, is her dry fishing you with her tail.I even posted the tail sprite, so shitposter really embarrasses himself.
>>507106214It applies to major characters too.
>>507107890>It's fucking R'lyeh isn't it?That location is also accessed from that locked door later, yeah. Just figured I'd throw the heads-up since it's the 2nd most annoying place to go from the map since you can't fly, though the boat ride is short enough, but it might be so many hours before you need to come back that it's like "Where the fuck was that again".World Tree is worse, can't fly AND you need to sail from some further location. Fortunately you only need to go to the tree to pick up a retard and for a Vanilla shop upgrade if I recall.
>>507106937There's no proof the mobs will get new scenes.
I can't give in, I'm no match for these guys but still I
Holy shit that's adorable
>>507107890It's Pazuzu's time to shine.
>>507083921Don't think too hard about it, it doesn't make sense.
>>507090964>because Alice's relationship with Luka is purely based on romance and companionshipSince when?
>>507107592I don't think any of the other artist match Nuppe at a technical level either. Maybe Kenkou, but I've not seen him draw anything besides portraits and scenery art, no action scenes.
I have farmed jobs, but most importantly, the mats needed to craft all the items I can have.Except the ones that needed more Chasiom. And more Malboro Petals. And more World Serpent Tail's but if they don't drop in the castle I dunno what to do.I think I'm ready for the Dark Goddess Castle.
>>507110707didnt that artist start as a fan-artist like coolkyoushinja
>>507110707sure but Xelvy is pretty far downAlso Xelvy's shit just isn't appealing except as still portraits desu, his facial expressions are weirdly distorted and his sex scenes are TERRIBLE saved only by some of the monsters' good designs (like desert scylla)Cool Kyou makes much cuter girlsFrfr makes softer ones and his scenes aren't disgustingNuppe is just a good artistWhoever drew Banshee and the Dimensional Eroder also blow Xelvy out
>>507110850There are a bunch of mats that only come from monsters in the castle itself, you can freely leave so you don't have to worry.
Do you get to fuck Galda?
>>507111357>d and his sex scenes are TERRIBLECan you get even more wrong
Xelvy is top 5 come on...
SoIlias is preparing to get killed.Chromdoll probably has a pussy.Eden want the Longinus.Other Eden: it's so fucking obvious that the fallen angel in question is either Lucifina or Luka. Geez.Micaela-chan think something is wrong.Ten legged grasshoppers existMephisto is still salty, while being mildly schizo which confuses people>Learned Command of the Hero>Stat Ups and 50%SP recoveryNot bad.So apparently Dark Goddess Alice was your usual fake world of str retard until she killed her daughter and decided "we aren't gods we shouldn't act as such"... while still making god-like beings? In any cases Ilias misses her because she was the only equal being she ever had.>>507111620I can never escape the grind. Get me the gun.
>>507112462Did he do anything new for Part 3? Or did all his hentai scenes get done by the same mystery artist?
>>507112841Ilias misses her twin sister
Alice 1 would have been tolerable if she just didn't make Hiruko.
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>>507113152The 6 ancestors are spoilt brats the 7 archangels are just people with a horrible single mom.Lucifina and Koron, scare their mothers, Koron did everything her mom told her to do, taking her words to heart too hard loving her till the end of her life, and Lucifina hates her mom cuz she's a bitch.
>>507113152Hiruko carries the Ancestors, they would have been much more boring without her. Thank you Fat Alice, she might have not lived up to your standards, but she brings a ray of sunshine to the world.
>>507104813>>507106325>>507108253Devilish
>>507104060You can always speak with Tatsuko in Navy Headquarters to teleport there
>>507113417Based Lucifina
